The Glenn Beck Program - 7⧸11⧸17

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00:00:07.680 Hello, America, and welcome to the program.

00:00:13.100 The Donald Trump news, much to the chagrin of many Americans, half of America,

00:00:25.180 does look like it is starting to connect the dots in a way that is going to be suboptimal for the president.

00:00:37.520 The news you need to know, and the president needs to be able to explain,

00:00:47.260 because this is not going away anytime soon.

00:00:51.500 We begin there, right now.

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00:01:19.900 Welcome to the program.

00:01:27.140 There are, we're going to probably have to do a chalkboard today on the connections here that are all starting to come together.

00:01:41.020 because of what the New York Times released last night.

00:01:46.300 There is now an email.

00:01:49.580 We have four people who have read it.

00:01:53.740 So those are the sources of this email.

00:01:55.720 We have not seen it.

00:01:56.740 It has not been published.

00:01:57.900 So assuming that this email is real, this changes absolutely everything in the Trump world.

00:02:08.620 And everything about fake news and Russian collusion.

00:02:14.440 There does seem to be collusion now.

00:02:17.840 And at least there are some very difficult things to explain.

00:02:26.700 And unfortunately, things that the president or his children,

00:02:33.260 I mean, it looks like Kushner could be going to jail.

00:02:38.560 Maybe Don Jr. could be going to jail.

00:02:40.580 If these things are true, these are really disturbing now.

00:02:47.420 We had smoke, but no necessary fire.

00:02:55.140 It was a he said, she said situation 24 hours ago.

00:02:59.100 But last night, the news of an email that was describing the meeting to Don Jr.

00:03:10.640 from the Russians was there.

00:03:13.120 And it spells out that it is the Russian government intel.

00:03:21.440 Let's just go over the facts that we do have.

00:03:25.460 On Friday, I'm sorry, at a few months ago, first, Donald Jr. said there was no meeting.

00:03:36.480 I've never met with anybody.

00:03:38.700 Then on Saturday, he said there was a meeting and it was about adoptions.

00:03:43.420 It's interesting that he would use that.

00:03:45.960 He would say that this was about adoptions because it is about adoptions in some ways.

00:03:53.000 But it is about the Magnitsky Act.

00:03:57.200 Now, that's named after a guy who was a really bad crime guy in Russia.

00:04:04.140 This is the act that the United States under Obama put in to hurt the rich friends of Vladimir Putin.

00:04:16.860 Do you remember when they went into Ukraine and they were screwing around with everything?

00:04:21.560 And we needed some sort of red line punishment.

00:04:26.620 And we tried to just put sanctions on their banks, etc., etc.

00:04:32.460 It did nothing.

00:04:33.800 Putin laughed.

00:04:35.060 And then we came back with this act.

00:04:38.100 And this act went after the oligarchs and their money here in the United States.

00:04:44.340 So how did Putin respond?

00:04:46.400 We go after the bad guys.

00:04:50.020 What does Putin do?

00:04:51.520 He knows that there's a lot of Americans that will adopt babies.

00:04:56.160 And Americans go over to Russia to adopt these babies that aren't wanted.

00:05:01.780 And so he stopped all Americans from adopting children in Russia.

00:05:06.800 That was his, he was appealing to, or he was trying to crush the hearts of Americans.

00:05:16.600 So we would go to our Congress and our president and say, we got to get these babies out of there.

00:05:22.880 Please.

00:05:24.860 The government didn't do it.

00:05:26.320 We didn't react that way.

00:05:27.660 So when she said, or Don Jr. said it was about adoption, it really wasn't about adoption.

00:05:33.680 It was about relieve and overrule this act.

00:05:39.840 Stop hurting our oligarchs.

00:05:42.620 That way we can give you adoption.

00:05:45.180 Now, there is one question here.

00:05:51.360 Was there a quid pro quo?

00:05:54.540 Was there, we'll give you some information, which he says doesn't make any, didn't make any sense.

00:05:59.720 But you have to hear additional information now as the timeline starts to come in.

00:06:05.360 This is, I'm telling you, this is as disturbing as the timelines we used to put together at Fox.

00:06:13.560 This timeline works, unfortunately.

00:06:18.580 He says that none of that made sense.

00:06:22.020 And so they just went and talked about the adoption.

00:06:25.660 Let's say it did make sense.

00:06:29.500 You know what?

00:06:31.320 Say it didn't.

00:06:32.240 Say she was a crazy woman.

00:06:33.920 But she was sent because she, we now know she is a government operative.

00:06:38.640 If she went and said, look, Don, we need to get this out.

00:06:44.980 If we give you this information, will you work with us to get rid of this act and we'll make it all about adoption?

00:06:54.020 We don't know.

00:06:55.160 But that does seem reasonable, a reasonable approach.

00:07:00.740 So first he said it was about adoption.

00:07:03.380 Then he came back a day later and said, oh yeah, I did talk to her.

00:07:07.980 And it was about Hillary Clinton stuff, but it didn't make any sense.

00:07:12.780 He also said that he didn't tell anybody.

00:07:19.040 He didn't tell Kushner and he didn't tell Manafort what that meeting was about.

00:07:23.820 In fact, the words are, quote, refused to tell them what the meeting was about or who the meeting was with.

00:07:31.840 That doesn't make any sense.

00:07:36.360 A, why would these two show up?

00:07:39.160 And why would you refuse to tell them about a meeting that was no big deal?

00:07:46.460 That seems like you are giving plausible deniability to people because you know something isn't right.

00:07:53.680 Okay, so now Donald Jr. says, yes, I did give this, she did give me this information, but it was no big deal.

00:08:04.360 And instead of ending the meeting there, it went on for nearly 30 minutes.

00:08:11.560 After that, we now know that she is, what's her name, Natalia Veskal...

00:08:17.780 Veselnitskaya.

00:08:19.540 Veselnitskaya.

00:08:21.640 Veselnitskaya.

00:08:22.260 Yeah.

00:08:22.520 Natalia Veselnitskaya.

00:08:25.820 It already...

00:08:26.600 I mean, do we really need much more on her?

00:08:29.100 But it has been...

00:08:30.520 Technically, yes, you do need more than that.

00:08:32.480 Yes, we do, but that seems like enough.

00:08:34.640 She is now confirmed as an agent of the Kremlin.

00:08:38.060 She represents government interests.

00:08:39.960 She's denying that, by the way, we should point out.

00:08:42.120 Of course she's...

00:08:42.820 She's saying that she is not an agent of the Kremlin.

00:08:45.080 She does not work for them.

00:08:46.200 Okay.

00:08:48.080 He now claims that he did refuse to tell them,

00:08:52.500 They don't tell anybody.

00:08:54.340 So these guys show up to meet with somebody they don't know.

00:08:58.080 They don't know what the meeting was about.

00:09:00.200 I want to point out that they were both there.

00:09:05.920 Kushner and Manafort were both there.

00:09:08.960 Neither of those two disclosed this meeting.

00:09:13.840 If she was no big deal, but she was saying, as this new email says, that came out last night,

00:09:24.120 a government-run operation has found information on Hillary Clinton and the DNC.

00:09:34.360 So, whether she was an agent or not, she is representing that the government of Russia has information.

00:09:45.140 Neither Kushner, Donald Trump Jr., or Manafort disclosed this conversation, disclosed this email.

00:09:54.020 You would think that it would be pretty important to say, oh, you know what?

00:10:03.020 Maybe they were trying to throw the election towards me.

00:10:08.440 Because, look, we got this email from a Russian.

00:10:11.680 And she said the Russian government had information that they were going to disclose.

00:10:18.780 That's important information.

00:10:22.120 How do you now spend a year denying that Russia was trying to affect the election when you have that email?

00:10:31.760 Now, you could say, she was a crazy woman.

00:10:34.460 But why would you hold that information back?

00:10:37.080 Why would you not disclose on your top-secret clearance application that you had this meeting and this email?

00:10:48.240 Also, Kushner had spoken with Sergei, how do you say his, Kislyak?

00:10:53.320 Kislyak.

00:10:53.920 Kislyak.

00:10:55.600 Manafort had spoken to him in person at the Mayflower Hotel.

00:10:59.740 Kushner would have another call with Kislyak, meaning him with the Russian or Putin's banker.

00:11:10.760 He disclosed neither one of those.

00:11:13.660 Manafort was just weeks away from lying on TV saying that he hadn't met with any Russians.

00:11:20.680 He had already met with her.

00:11:22.740 Manafort later was fired from his dealings with the Russian allies in Ukraine.

00:11:28.000 And remember, it is the reason why we were talking about adoption is because of the act that Barack Obama put in.

00:11:38.500 Why?

00:11:38.860 Because of Putin's actions in the Ukraine.

00:11:42.660 So Manafort, as we told you during the election, was one degree away from Vladimir Putin while he was serving in the Ukraine.

00:11:51.640 Ukraine, all of those things, he denied until the evidence came out from the Ukraine.

00:12:01.800 Here's where it really gets kind of dicey.

00:12:05.420 Let me see if I can.

00:12:07.140 They continued to deny all of these things.

00:12:16.780 However, there is a date that is really important for you to know.

00:12:24.620 And that is, here it is.

00:12:26.400 Okay, so they spend 30 minutes with this woman on June 9th and they say she didn't have anything to talk about.

00:12:39.160 This is critical.

00:12:40.820 Please explain this to me, boys.

00:12:43.700 June 9th, she comes in.

00:12:47.360 She says she has government intel gathered by the Russian government.

00:12:52.060 She shares it.

00:12:54.500 They say it makes no sense.

00:12:57.300 They leave the meeting.

00:12:59.280 She leaves Trump Hotel.

00:13:01.420 And what do they do?

00:13:04.020 They, according to records, spend the rest of the day writing a major speech about anti-Hillary Clinton intel.

00:13:14.280 Trump says that he's going to, he announced on June 9th, the same day they met,

00:13:20.980 he announced that he was going to give a major speech on anti-Hillary intelligence.

00:13:29.160 It was supposed to be given on June 13th, but that was the Pulse nightclub shooting.

00:13:36.000 And so it had to be delayed.

00:13:37.380 He gave it on June 22nd.

00:13:39.400 The anti-Hillary Clinton speech that Don Kushner and Manafort prepared the day they met with this woman.

00:13:50.480 During the speech, he claims that enemies of the U.S. had a blackmail file on Clinton.

00:13:57.920 We say here, blackmail file is a word or a phrase used by the Russians.

00:14:07.660 We just say it's blackmail.

00:14:09.640 They have stuff that they're going to blackmail.

00:14:12.500 They actually call that, they always refer to, when we just say blackmail, they always say blackmail file.

00:14:19.060 Could be a coincidence.

00:14:20.380 But he says they have enemies, have a blackmail file.

00:14:25.400 Well, wait a minute.

00:14:26.740 Who are you talking about?

00:14:28.920 Did you get that on the day you wrote it?

00:14:33.280 Did you get that from the Russians?

00:14:37.920 Also, Trump has repeatedly told us that no one has ever secretly met with a Russian national.

00:14:45.940 Now, who set up this meeting?

00:14:52.060 This is unfortunate.

00:14:59.120 We now know that it was Rob Goldstone.

00:15:03.480 Goldstone is a Trump senior friend who Don Jr. met when Goldstone was judging the Miss America pageant when it was done in Moscow.

00:15:14.440 Miss Universe, yeah.

00:15:16.020 Yeah, I'm sorry, Miss Universe in 2013.

00:15:18.940 I'm in a weird location for Miss America.

00:15:20.240 Yeah, for Miss America, that would be strange.

00:15:22.120 Sorry.

00:15:24.720 So, if you see Rob Goldstone's picture on, is this Twitter?

00:15:33.500 Yeah, this is Twitter.

00:15:34.360 His tweets, unfortunately, he's usually wearing a shirt that says Russia or something like that.

00:15:46.520 Big fan of Russia.

00:15:47.240 Had a Moscow time picture with the cover of the Moscow Times.

00:15:51.500 Definitely.

00:15:52.220 But, I mean, that's known, right?

00:15:54.040 He was doing business dealings in Russia, which is how they know him.

00:15:57.120 Yes.

00:15:57.480 Goldstone is a publicist who represents Amin.

00:16:02.860 He's a singer of Trump's friend, who is a Russian billionaire and oligarch.

00:16:10.860 Those two, the oligarch and Goldstone, are good friends and a close associate of Vladimir Putin.

00:16:22.020 So, the singer's dad, the billionaire, is the most powerful Russian contact Goldstone has.

00:16:34.900 He is a close personal friend with Vladimir Putin.

00:16:40.400 Goldstone is the guy who set up the meeting with Natalia.

00:16:46.600 That doesn't look good.

00:16:54.240 None of this looks good.

00:16:56.440 It's also not proven, though, right?

00:16:58.440 I mean, there's...

00:16:59.900 What's not proven?

00:17:01.160 We don't know that this speech was inspired by this meeting.

00:17:06.080 No, we don't.

00:17:06.720 There's a lot of things in there we don't know.

00:17:08.900 There's a lot of things that we didn't know about George Soros, that we didn't know about Barack Obama.

00:17:22.640 But when you tie the timelines together, you really have to ask yourself, am I being honest?

00:17:32.780 I mean, we used to look at this stuff all the time and the left would say, wait a minute, you don't know.

00:17:38.320 Yes, we don't.

00:17:39.660 We don't know.

00:17:41.040 But the timeline is really, really becoming very difficult.

00:17:47.920 Remember, I said there was no collusion.

00:17:51.260 I said that there was nothing going on with the Russian agents and Trump and his family.

00:17:57.780 I didn't believe any of it, except for Manafort.

00:18:01.640 None of it.

00:18:02.360 But I am now saying, we better look into this.

00:18:08.360 And you have to wonder if these constant denials that wind up turning out the other way actually help him, his agenda, the conservative cause, anything.

00:18:17.420 They don't.

00:18:17.580 It seems to continually hurt it.

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00:19:20.040 We are one.

00:19:21.940 The Glenn Beck Program.

00:19:25.040 Mercury.

00:19:29.520 You're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:19:31.920 Yeah.

00:19:32.580 Go ahead.

00:19:33.300 We're, we're, we want to take one thing.

00:19:35.480 Everything I just told you hinges on whether this email that's reported from the email, from the New York Times, exists and says what they say it does.

00:19:48.280 CNN and the New York Times, I know, I know, have both verified that it exists, but we haven't seen it yet.

00:19:56.680 But, you should be mapping out in your head what's going to happen, what's our next move, what's best for the republic and the conservative movement here, if indeed this is true.

00:20:10.860 We'll give you some facts that may throw some new light on that next.

00:20:14.400 I want you to know that I am on the record for two things.

00:20:32.620 Thinking that Donald Trump was not a guy that should be president of the United States because of his, the way he deals with people and things.

00:20:42.300 However, I have been on the record for the last year saying I don't believe it for a second that Donald Trump was colluding in any way.

00:20:55.420 I don't believe that his family was colluding.

00:20:57.660 I could believe that Paul Manafort was, but not that Donald Trump would know about it, not that he would be a part of it, nor would his family.

00:21:07.160 I never believed that and have taken the media to task for conflating everything.

00:21:18.800 I've been saying the thing that we have to concentrate on is the fact that they tried to hack into our systems and cause chaos in our election.

00:21:31.260 I've said many times, I don't think Putin cared who won.

00:21:35.800 All he wanted to do was have us cause, have us fall into doubt and a civil war.

00:21:42.860 He wants chaos.

00:21:44.580 Now, with that being said, I still hold out hope that this is not what it seems.

00:21:56.900 Because of the email that was released last night, there is real reason now to to wonder and doubt.

00:22:08.400 There are smoking guns that are beginning to appear with that being said until they produce the email and show us that it actually says, if I can say here, this material is part of a Russian government effort to aid your father's candidacy.

00:22:27.700 If the email says anything like that, then the Donald Trump Jr. story completely falls apart.

00:22:37.760 We don't know.

00:22:39.580 CNN, the Times have had people check on the email.

00:22:43.520 They have seen the email.

00:22:45.220 They report, but they're not.

00:22:46.900 That's I mean.

00:22:48.640 Do you have faith in the New York Times or CNN?

00:22:51.760 But the question really is, if that email exists and says what they're saying it does, does that matter to Americans?

00:23:00.360 It has to.

00:23:01.560 It must.

00:23:03.280 It absolutely must.

00:23:05.380 How will you feel about it at that point?

00:23:07.420 And it may not.

00:23:08.620 It may be completely bogus.

00:23:09.920 Let me just give you a piece of history.

00:23:13.560 2000, and most people have forgotten about this.

00:23:16.020 In 2000, Al Gore is given by an operative information about George W. Bush.

00:23:24.280 And the information was right before a debate.

00:23:28.840 Al Gore receives all of the debating notes and everything that George Bush is being prepped for on these debates.

00:23:40.260 Before, believe this or not, before they even open up the book, they're handed this book.

00:23:49.620 They bring it back to the headquarters, and they say, Mr. Gore, or whoever, we were just handed this.

00:23:58.600 This is the briefing book of George W. Bush for the next debate.

00:24:03.580 Whoever was in charge, I don't know if it was Al Gore.

00:24:06.300 They handed it to a lawyer, and he turned it over to the FBI.

00:24:10.620 Immediately called the FBI.

00:24:13.660 It was thought at that time by the Gore campaign to be treasonous to use that kind of information.

00:24:23.160 Now, that is an internal American source handing over debate.

00:24:28.260 Well, we saw that CNN was handing debate notes.

00:24:33.400 Well, not CNN, but somebody worked at CNN handing debate notes to Hillary Clinton.

00:24:39.700 So we've changed from that.

00:24:44.420 However, this is an outside source.

00:24:49.020 And I urge you not to say, well, but Hillary has done.

00:24:56.520 Well, Hillary has met.

00:24:58.900 She would have.

00:24:59.980 Yeah, she probably would have.

00:25:01.320 And that's why we don't like her.

00:25:04.080 She was that kind of person.

00:25:06.880 But as every parent has said, I'm not talking about what your sister is doing.

00:25:14.020 I'll take care of that separately.

00:25:16.820 Right now, we're talking about what you are doing.

00:25:22.320 Somebody's got to be the adult in the room.

00:25:25.760 Because this is extraordinarily dangerous information.

00:25:30.040 Can't you make the argument, it's the son of a candidate who, at the time, doesn't look like he's going to win.

00:25:39.560 Who has some business contacts, threw an acquaintance, gets a call.

00:25:45.380 And they say, look, I've got some information on your opponent.

00:25:48.880 Sure, you're going to come to Trump Tower and we're going to meet.

00:25:51.820 Are you saying that this information exists, this email information exists?

00:25:57.800 Does he have this information?

00:25:58.860 Yeah, well, that's the premise we're going on, right?

00:26:00.740 Okay.

00:26:01.440 And so, you know what?

00:26:03.240 This guy is not versed in politics.

00:26:05.500 He doesn't, you know, he's not like Al Gore's, you know, campaign staff.

00:26:08.740 The guy hasn't ever done it before.

00:26:10.160 And so, he gets a call from somebody.

00:26:12.060 He has a chance to get some information.

00:26:13.840 Why not listen to the person and see what they have to say?

00:26:15.760 Maybe it will be something good.

00:26:16.860 Okay, so I don't accept that everybody around the president,

00:26:22.880 because he listens to his children, is an absolute nincompoop.

00:26:27.340 With that being said, yes, okay, I'll take that and say, all right, yeah.

00:26:35.260 I'm going to give you that and say, he was just an idiot at the time.

00:26:39.660 He wanted dad to win, yada, yada, yada.

00:26:43.060 Okay?

00:26:43.500 He doesn't know.

00:26:45.700 Paul Manafort knew.

00:26:48.200 And Kushner is not a dummy.

00:26:51.020 So, now we have three people involved.

00:26:54.720 And let me give you that.

00:26:55.980 They didn't know.

00:26:57.180 They just thought this was okay.

00:26:59.320 They didn't think it was a Russian operative.

00:27:02.960 Now you have to go to the next step.

00:27:05.400 During the campaign, do they say that?

00:27:08.900 When people are saying that, you know, they're colluding with Russia.

00:27:11.760 No, let's give them the benefit of the doubt that, no, they didn't want to say anything during the campaign

00:27:17.620 because it would, you know, muddy the waters and everything else, and it was a stupid incident.

00:27:22.520 The moment he won and everyone was starting to say, have you met with any Russian people, any foreign nationals?

00:27:32.660 Well, she, you could say they didn't know that she was, we didn't know she was part of the Kremlin.

00:27:37.940 We didn't know she was a mouthpiece for Putin.

00:27:40.600 Okay, I believe that.

00:27:41.940 I can believe that.

00:27:43.640 The question is, did you meet with any foreign nationals?

00:27:49.160 The answer there is yes.

00:27:52.500 Did you talk about the campaign with any foreign national?

00:27:56.520 Yes, Natalia.

00:27:58.800 And she said crazy stupid things.

00:28:01.780 We didn't believe it.

00:28:03.560 I believe that.

00:28:05.120 I can even go there.

00:28:06.580 But I can't go to, I've denied it and denied it and denied it and denied it.

00:28:13.560 And then, oh, it was just about an adoption.

00:28:17.880 And then, oh, well, it wasn't about that.

00:28:20.500 She also said she had bad things to say.

00:28:22.760 And then the memo.

00:28:25.460 If the memo is true and we don't know, we have to take a word at this point of CNN and the New York Times.

00:28:33.640 But if they've made this up, there's no credibility.

00:28:39.840 I mean, they reported the exact same way, the existence of the Comey memos.

00:28:44.120 Now, obviously, we know Comey, you know, I mean, and we do know that those actually at least exist.

00:28:52.300 We don't know everything that's in them.

00:28:53.880 Yeah.

00:28:54.020 Some of them are contemporaneous.

00:28:54.760 We do know they're contemporaneous, though.

00:28:56.100 They are contemporaneous.

00:28:56.800 We know that.

00:28:57.320 So here's the thing.

00:28:59.060 Pat, Pat, Pat's question is the right question.

00:29:01.680 You know, because now you start to tie things like.

00:29:05.980 Does it matter?

00:29:07.020 Yeah.

00:29:07.520 Kushner then said when he got in, he the first thing he tried to do, if you remember this back in January, was I want a direct line to the Kremlin.

00:29:17.140 I want a direct back channel line to the Kremlin.

00:29:21.540 OK, why does Kushner need a back channel that's secure to the Kremlin?

00:29:27.500 I mean, we already have those things, you know, the setup.

00:29:30.840 If Trump needs to talk to Putin, what is that all about?

00:29:34.160 Again, that's after they already won, which is a big distinction.

00:29:36.720 I mean, I'm getting a direct line to them as they're an incoming administration as a high.

00:29:41.460 He's basically the top advisor to the president.

00:29:43.640 Right.

00:29:43.800 It's not that that part of it isn't intentionally crazy on its own.

00:29:47.160 No, I didn't have a problem when that story broke and everybody was freaking out.

00:29:50.260 I'm like, of course, of course he wants a back channel line.

00:29:53.460 It's in the White House.

00:29:54.680 But with all of this stuff, this is why it matters.

00:29:57.520 Because unless, you know, we may be having a puppet government or a a government that is in collusion with the Russians and the Russians are not our friends.

00:30:12.400 When you have I had no problem yesterday, I had no problem.

00:30:18.100 People were talking about why did he meet for two hours with Vladimir Putin behind closed doors?

00:30:23.460 It was only supposed to go 30 minutes.

00:30:24.820 What did they have to talk about for two hours?

00:30:26.580 Shut up.

00:30:28.620 They're the two world leaders.

00:30:30.460 Of course, they're going to talk more than I would be concerned if they only talked for 30 minutes.

00:30:36.360 Of course, they have stuff to talk about.

00:30:38.780 But now with the introduction of this email.

00:30:44.360 That concerns me.

00:30:47.260 Because this email and the timeline of the writing of the speeches and and the releasing of WikiLeaks.

00:30:55.880 And all of these things tied together.

00:30:58.980 Now it just puts doubt in.

00:31:02.420 Wait a minute.

00:31:03.260 Should.

00:31:03.620 Is there something else going on?

00:31:05.040 Should we know?

00:31:06.340 Should he be meeting behind closed doors for two hours with Putin?

00:31:10.280 And then when asked, give several different answers.

00:31:12.880 What were they talking about?

00:31:15.320 That's not healthy.

00:31:16.820 That's just not healthy.

00:31:18.620 I'm sure everything they talked about was in our national interest and in our best interest.

00:31:24.200 But you can't have.

00:31:27.420 You must answer these questions.

00:31:31.340 And you have to look at it and say, I'm not talking about the other person.

00:31:37.200 I'm not talking about anything.

00:31:39.120 I'm talking about.

00:31:40.440 What is.

00:31:43.020 What does this mean for the Republic?

00:31:46.660 If you have somebody who's done this.

00:31:49.520 Remember, we had a problem with somebody in their security clearance.

00:31:54.740 These are felonies now.

00:31:58.020 People will go to jail if this is true.

00:32:00.640 And like the one of the issues with this meeting is just the timing of it.

00:32:05.740 I mean, you brought it up a couple of times, but it was July.

00:32:08.000 It was June 9th.

00:32:09.320 OK, June 9th of 2016 of 2016.

00:32:14.020 Donald Trump's first tweet ever about the thirty three thousand emails that were missing from Hillary Clinton was June 9th.

00:32:21.540 That same day.

00:32:23.220 Wow.

00:32:23.640 So then about time was it after the meeting?

00:32:27.160 I don't have that.

00:32:27.820 It is after the meeting, but I don't have the exact times.

00:32:29.760 But again, and they both and Kushner and Manafort go immediately from that meeting and they begin to write a speech on Hillary Clinton.

00:32:41.720 It's an interesting coincidence.

00:32:42.980 That blackmail.

00:32:44.180 It may very well be.

00:32:44.980 I mean, look, it wasn't like people weren't talking about Hillary Clinton's emails.

00:32:48.200 I mean, they were.

00:32:48.940 I know.

00:32:49.340 But and he's not saying that.

00:32:50.960 But again, at this point, they have not been they have not been released yet.

00:32:56.000 The Democratic National Committee emails had not been released yet by WikiLeaks.

00:32:59.360 So July 18th, Trump and the GOP convention, there was that story about them changing the platform.

00:33:08.200 This is about a month later.

00:33:09.500 They changed the platform to that in a way that helps Russia.

00:33:13.720 July 21st.

00:33:14.800 He's amazing.

00:33:15.480 The GOP.

00:33:17.060 Well, it's a couple of coins.

00:33:18.240 I have to tell you, this is not stuff that we brought up.

00:33:21.840 We did at the time, but we've let it go because he won.

00:33:27.060 I don't believe there was collusion.

00:33:29.120 But now with the release of this email and you tie all this stuff together, it is not looking good.

00:33:36.260 You got a couple of coincidences there.

00:33:38.740 That's it.

00:33:39.260 That's what you have.

00:33:41.180 A couple of coincidences.

00:33:42.640 Right.

00:33:43.000 Things happen.

00:33:43.960 Yeah.

00:33:44.160 You know, sometimes they happen in one order and sometimes they happen in the other order.

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00:35:00.940 This is the Glenn Beck program.

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00:35:12.140 Hey, I really want to take your phone calls.

00:35:15.540 You know how we feel.

00:35:16.840 I want to hear how you feel.

00:35:17.860 I feel like it's an amazing coincidence.

00:35:20.500 A couple of amazing coincidences.

00:35:21.980 That's how I feel.

00:35:22.860 I want to hear how you feel.

00:35:25.080 The number is 888-727-BCK.

00:35:27.380 I'd like to take your call and just just measure how you feel.

00:35:34.380 Now, we're going on a couple of things.

00:35:36.580 Remember, yesterday, I said that it wasn't good, but we didn't make a big deal out of it.

00:35:41.080 It wasn't good.

00:35:42.800 But, you know, we don't have anything yet.

00:35:46.800 It's still he said, she said, but it wasn't looking good.

00:35:49.940 Apparently, we have a little bit more now.

00:35:51.680 Yeah.

00:35:52.020 Apparently, this is a smoking gun.

00:35:54.060 You know, and like we said, how many times have we made the point of Bill Clinton, the mistake we made with Bill Clinton?

00:36:00.380 Because the argument was, he did do this with Monica Lewinsky.

00:36:05.560 No, he didn't.

00:36:06.620 Yes, he did.

00:36:07.420 And we always said, okay, if he did do this, does it matter?

00:36:12.420 We never made that case.

00:36:13.940 We never asked that question until it was too late, until he finally admitted he did do it.

00:36:19.740 We should have been asking.

00:36:20.340 We should have been asking, does it matter?

00:36:22.200 Does it matter?

00:36:22.820 And that's what we should ask now.

00:36:24.380 Does it matter?

00:36:24.760 Does it matter?

00:36:26.220 Does it matter, Stu?

00:36:28.060 Pat?

00:36:29.120 Jeffy?

00:36:29.580 Yeah, of course it matters.

00:36:31.200 Oh, if this, if he actually did collude with Russians?

00:36:33.900 Yes, absolutely.

00:36:35.000 Of course it matters.

00:36:35.760 I mean, we don't know that.

00:36:37.260 You said a smoking gun.

00:36:38.180 We don't know.

00:36:38.780 Well, if, if we have a smoking gun, if this email exists the way they say it does.

00:36:46.040 It's a real problem.

00:36:47.180 Yeah.

00:36:48.120 It's a real problem.

00:36:49.360 At least for Donald Jr.

00:36:50.600 I mean, it just.

00:36:51.540 Well, Donald Jr. will go to jail, but that means that Kushner, well, he should, just like

00:36:57.440 Hillary Clinton should have gone to jail.

00:36:59.440 That means Kushner knew and hit it.

00:37:02.280 It means Manafort knew and hit it.

00:37:04.540 And it means Donald J. Trump knew, Jr. and hit it.

00:37:09.300 We'll, we'll take your phone calls next.

00:37:12.000 I really want to hear your point of view.

00:37:14.380 Does it matter if there was collusion?

00:37:17.620 This is the Glenn Beck program.

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00:38:45.600 Hello, America.

00:38:46.800 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

00:38:48.340 We're so glad that you've joined us today.

00:38:50.760 We have to, um, give our thoughts and prayers to, um, the, all the people that were on the

00:38:58.200 KC one 30, the refueling plane that crashed in Mississippi, um, yesterday.

00:39:03.960 Um, um, a senseless, um, incident, uh, and it looks like the plane had structural failures.

00:39:12.920 Uh, no kidding.

00:39:14.260 That's a huge plane.

00:39:15.600 And most of them were, were built in the, in the 1960s and they are workhorses.

00:39:21.620 I mean, you know, we could stand, uh, uh, to perhaps upgrade our military and stop living

00:39:30.660 during the cold war and, um, um, and, um, provide our men the best equipment, um, that is available.

00:39:39.120 Again, our thoughts and prayers go to the, the crew and the families of the 16, at least 16 that, um, died yesterday.

00:39:49.980 I want to talk to you about the Donald Trump, uh, Russian scandal, the Donald Trump Jr.

00:39:58.160 scandal.

00:39:59.000 There was a email that came out last night that changes everything.

00:40:05.040 If, and I stress, if it is true, we begin there right now.

00:40:10.660 I will make a stand, I will raise my voice, I will hold your hand, cause we are one.

00:40:20.420 I will beat my drum, I have made my choice, we will overcome, cause we are one.

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00:40:33.120 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:40:37.520 All right.

00:40:38.840 Here's what you need to know.

00:40:41.320 The new information from yesterday.

00:40:43.900 We spent very little time on this yesterday because what we had was a, he said, she said.

00:40:49.840 We had a, uh, a Russian operative or at least a foreign national from Russia that we now know is deeply connected to the Kremlin and Putin.

00:41:02.900 We, we, we knew that, um, this foreign national met with, uh, Donald Trump Jr., Kushner, and also, uh, uh, Manafort.

00:41:16.860 We know that Manafort has dealings with Russia and that's not good.

00:41:22.080 And he's already left the service.

00:41:24.280 We also knew yesterday that, uh, the story kept changing with the Trump side about this meeting.

00:41:31.160 And in fact, uh, it was, um, a felony, uh, had they not reported this, but for some apparent reason, a few weeks ago, uh, they all put this and changed their, their application.

00:41:46.860 For top secret security clearance.

00:41:49.520 They suddenly remembered this and put it on to their top security clearance.

00:41:55.500 Had this come out without them changing it a few weeks ago, um, well, until we learned about Hillary Clinton, I would have assumed jail time.

00:42:06.220 Um, but I'm not convinced that people, except people like you, actually go to jail in this country anymore.

00:42:12.680 That's what we knew yesterday.

00:42:15.240 But then there was a, um, an email that was released, or at least the information in the email, CNN and the New York Times have both confirmed this in the way they did about the Comey meadow memos.

00:42:32.500 That several people have had eyes on it, and we're taking their word that that's what it said.

00:42:40.620 This is so critical that I don't think we take anybody's word.

00:42:45.000 We don't, we don't assume that this email is real, exists, or even says this.

00:42:52.320 Because I believe the consequences of this email are astronomical.

00:42:58.180 So when they produce the email, then we can have the talk about what the ramifications are.

00:43:06.940 What I want to talk to you about is, if the facts are as they appear to be, and they're beginning to be really quite significant,

00:43:20.840 meeting on the same day that after this meeting happened where they said they had nothing,

00:43:27.880 they went into a meeting to write the first speech about how a foreign government has a file on blackmail for Hillary Clinton,

00:43:36.100 was that a coincidence, that the first time that Donald Trump tweets about the 33,000 missing emails is also that same day,

00:43:46.100 later that night, that they write that speech, and he announces the next day that he's going to give the speech

00:43:54.280 on how there's a blackmail file from a foreign government, those are pretty damning, just in and of themselves.

00:44:01.620 Then you have other things that also build up that are significant.

00:44:08.360 But to me, the most significant is the denial by all three of them that this meeting even happened until a few weeks ago.

00:44:18.960 Here's what the email apparently said.

00:44:21.940 In the email, it was expressed that the material was part of a Russian government effort to aid Donald Trump Jr.'s father's candidacy,

00:44:33.000 according to three people with knowledge of the email.

00:44:36.840 All right, let's hear from you.

00:44:39.560 Donna in Pennsylvania, go ahead.

00:44:42.280 Hi, Glenn.

00:44:44.700 Thank you for taking my call.

00:44:46.040 Good morning.

00:44:48.740 First of all, I want to start by saying I do not condone lying.

00:44:52.720 And should they have lied?

00:44:54.340 If this is all true, absolutely not.

00:44:57.920 That being said, at what point is one team better than the other?

00:45:05.220 Oh, they're not.

00:45:05.840 If I was an attorney, I would look for any factual evidence, intel that I could find to win.

00:45:15.660 So if you're getting factual information that is going to hurt the opponent so that you can win

00:45:24.180 and drain the swamp from one bad guy to the next, who's to decide which is the better of the two bad guys?

00:45:32.620 Okay, so hang on just a sec, Donna.

00:45:34.000 Let me just, I'm not arguing with you.

00:45:35.640 I just want to, I just want to ask you a couple of questions.

00:45:38.140 I love you guys.

00:45:39.160 Personally, I think we should strip the administration and you three run the country.

00:45:43.760 That would be a very bad idea.

00:45:45.260 But Donna, so let me ask you this question.

00:45:47.420 Because I understand if you're going to get, you're going to get bad guy information, you know,

00:45:52.700 are you going to get information from somebody?

00:45:54.780 You know, do you take it?

00:45:56.020 Do you use it?

00:45:57.220 If it's factual, yes.

00:45:59.140 However, the difference here is this is coming from a foreign national.

00:46:05.200 So it's a foreign, how this was presented was not that this woman had this information from inside the country,

00:46:13.220 that someone in Russia was gathering all of this dossier and had all kinds of factual information from somewhere inside of Russia.

00:46:26.460 Would you say that that is something that a citizen should report to the FBI?

00:46:35.420 Because no foreign nationals are ever involved and can be involved legally with a campaign.

00:46:42.180 And if you say, well, no, because it's during the campaign, does it change it when you continue to deny it after your candidate has won?

00:46:51.680 I don't think they should have denied it to begin with.

00:46:55.800 However, who can you trust in our intel agencies?

00:47:00.800 Who were they to go to with the information and would it have been put out there?

00:47:05.200 Everything that seems to have been said was true about the Obama administration and Clinton.

00:47:12.560 And where are they?

00:47:13.540 They're all still sitting in their houses, all pretty.

00:47:16.280 And like you said, we would all be in jail.

00:47:19.200 So who do you trust?

00:47:20.560 Who were they to take it to?

00:47:21.960 How could they have gotten that information and gotten out to the public, whether it helped him or not, which it probably did.

00:47:30.380 But we needed to know that.

00:47:32.260 So where do you go with that if you can't trust the people you're supposed to tell?

00:47:35.660 Well, I will tell you this.

00:47:36.740 There's nobody better at getting information to the public than Donald Trump.

00:47:40.200 If Donald Trump had that information, he could have used the information, which he did in a speech just a few days later.

00:47:50.160 The speech that was written on the same day.

00:47:52.080 He did use that information.

00:47:53.880 And he said that there is a Russian government or I think he said that there's a foreign government that has blackmail information, a blackmail file on Hillary Clinton.

00:48:05.200 So he was saying that.

00:48:07.140 However, what makes this really disturbing is he apparently knows that this was happening, at least now, with his family.

00:48:18.260 And he continues to deny that the Russians were involved in trying to affect our election at all.

00:48:24.320 That's disturbing to me.

00:48:26.980 Joe in Indiana.

00:48:28.500 Welcome to the program.

00:48:30.880 Hi, Glenn.

00:48:31.380 Thanks for taking my call.

00:48:32.460 I was just wanting to call in and tell you about another coincidence that I came across this week when I started reading Donald Trump's first book, The Art of the Deal.

00:48:44.040 In the first 50 pages or so, the first chapter, he talks about a week in the life of him and what his schedule looks like and some of the different conversations that he's had.

00:48:55.540 And one conversation in particular struck me, and I had to read it aloud to my wife when I was reading it, because he goes on about a deal that he was approached with or about trying to do something with a building a hotel.

00:49:14.060 I don't know the address exactly, but it talks about being across the street from the Kremlin.

00:49:18.040 And this is back in 1986, and it's just sort of odd, and it struck me because I remember him talking about, over the last year, how he's had no deals with Russia and no, you know, never, it seemed, at least I was led to believe, that he never tried to have a deal.

00:49:37.580 And maybe that, maybe this deal didn't go through, but it just seems sort of fishy.

00:49:42.220 And now that this information that you've been talking about for the last hour or so has come out, it just, yeah, it definitely stinks like something.

00:49:51.900 Joe, thank you for your call.

00:49:53.240 I don't know if he's ever said that he didn't, he said that he didn't have any current business deals.

00:49:57.540 He's definitely said he never did business with Russia, which I don't think he has.

00:50:01.340 Well, no, he definitely had the Miss Universe.

00:50:03.120 Well, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:50:03.840 Moscow.

00:50:04.660 I interpret that, giving him the benefit of the doubt.

00:50:07.200 I interpret that as, I'm not building a golf course or, you know, or a hotel or something like that.

00:50:12.560 I think the best reading for him is he doesn't have any current dealings there.

00:50:17.500 I don't think, I mean, I don't think he could even deny that he's never had any dealings there.

00:50:21.640 I mean, certainly he had a publicized television, you know, situation with Miss Universe that was held there.

00:50:27.820 Let me go to Dave in Florida.

00:50:29.900 Hello, Dave.

00:50:30.440 You're on the Gladbeck program.

00:50:32.080 Hello.

00:50:32.400 Thank you all for everything you all do.

00:50:33.900 You asked, do I care or do we care if there's collusion?

00:50:37.860 Of course we care if there's some sort of collusion.

00:50:39.880 The question is, colluding for what?

00:50:41.580 What activity?

00:50:42.420 Are they colluding to hack into the Federal Elections Commission?

00:50:46.640 Yeah, I care about that.

00:50:48.120 Are they talking to each other to reveal important information?

00:50:51.360 Like, for instance, maybe Hillary Clinton's got spies from Russia in her campaign.

00:50:55.000 That's a bit of data that can be relayed and then independently verified elsewhere.

00:51:01.560 So I don't care if a candidate is talking to a foreign country to gather information and then independently verifies it.

00:51:09.060 I do want to know what collusion and meddling mean.

00:51:11.580 And there's so much intentional vagueness by the media on this that it really bothers me.

00:51:16.080 And finally, we need to see the email.

00:51:18.140 We need the facts.

00:51:18.880 So, Dave, I agree with you on we need the email.

00:51:23.240 None of this, this is bothersome, but it is not looking like jail time unless the email exists.

00:51:33.880 So the email has to be produced.

00:51:36.740 And it has to say what the New York Times and CNN is reporting that it says.

00:51:41.440 And we should point out, pretty specifically, the article makes it clear.

00:51:45.080 They have not actually seen it.

00:51:46.140 But there's a lot of resources this like we talk to sources and the email indicates this.

00:51:52.100 Well, there's not quotes from the email in there.

00:51:54.840 And this is a weird line the press keeps walking down, which is troublesome.

00:51:59.320 Yeah.

00:51:59.500 If you don't see the freaking email, then don't make a report on it.

00:52:02.180 Well, the New York, the Washington Post would have never run this back in Nixon Watergate.

00:52:07.300 Wait, you have three people that have seen it?

00:52:09.980 Yeah.

00:52:10.240 Well, how about you?

00:52:11.120 What does it say?

00:52:12.340 Have you seen it?

00:52:13.340 Because they don't even have the quote.

00:52:14.400 It's the indicates.

00:52:16.420 I mean, there's a lot of weird wording there that makes me nervous on that.

00:52:19.560 So I agree with you.

00:52:20.960 And that's why none of this is valid until you actually have the email.

00:52:26.920 But, Dave, when you're talking about this particular thing, again, assuming the email exists,

00:52:33.360 are you concerned at all that the president and his children have denied the existence of this meeting for so long,

00:52:45.260 denied that there was any kind of talk about the election and my campaign?

00:52:51.960 I mean, they have all been very strong.

00:52:54.180 No foreign national has met with us at all about the campaign.

00:52:58.500 No Russian has, and they all were very clear.

00:53:02.800 That is clearly not true.

00:53:05.960 Yes, that concerns me.

00:53:07.160 That's why I was a never-Trumper, never-voted-for-im, but then I gave him a clean slate afterwards.

00:53:11.280 I'm looking for the facts to tell me whether or not I can really trust any of these people.

00:53:15.840 Yeah, I agree with you.

00:53:17.000 The problem here is that we are sitting in a country, and this is why we talked about that book Authenticity yesterday

00:53:23.740 and why I've been reading some of the things I'm reading.

00:53:26.400 I'm trying to figure out where we are.

00:53:29.140 How did we get here?

00:53:31.220 And there's a couple of things.

00:53:33.460 One is this has been very well orchestrated,

00:53:37.280 and I'm in the middle of researching and writing a book now that will show you an event that happened in the late 1950s

00:53:45.920 that planned this very scenario, planned that how do we get the West to distrust everything?

00:53:58.380 How do we defrag the American story, the American ideals, the American heroes?

00:54:07.680 How do we get people to not trust the Congress?

00:54:10.780 How do we get people to not trust the president and the media?

00:54:14.860 And more importantly, how do we get people to believe that they've been disenfranchised,

00:54:22.060 that they are oppressed, even if there is no oppression,

00:54:25.900 if they say, well, I haven't been oppressed,

00:54:29.780 how do we convince them that you're so oppressed that you don't even think you've been oppressed?

00:54:38.300 It's an amazing thing.

00:54:40.620 When we finish the research, we'll start telling you about this,

00:54:44.300 but it's going to blow you away.

00:54:47.180 And what a surprise, it's all in the educational system.

00:54:50.340 So I've been researching this, and I've been researching the human mind and the American psyche

00:54:57.420 and how we speak to each other and how did we get here to where everything is fake,

00:55:04.700 that we have fake news and a reality show host as president.

00:55:11.280 We're looking for something authentic.

00:55:13.780 That's why Donald Trump won, and I never understood that until recently.

00:55:20.800 And I want to share a little bit on that with you here in just a second.

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00:57:39.820 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:57:44.320 Hello, America.

00:57:46.680 Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:57:48.100 We're going to take your phone calls, and I want to get into what we were just talking about.

00:57:51.840 But I'm, gosh, running up against the clock here.

00:57:56.560 I've got 30 seconds.

00:57:57.400 Let me take Mike real quick in Pennsylvania.

00:57:59.740 Hello, Mike.

00:58:01.160 Hi, Glenn.

00:58:02.160 Listen, I don't care if Donald Trump had lunch with Vladimir Putin, and they went on vacation together and laughed how they were going to beat Hillary.

00:58:10.920 That's true.

00:58:11.920 Listen, our guy won, Glenn.

00:58:14.140 And for the longest time, we've expected other people to play by the rules, and they don't, and we do.

00:58:21.080 And, I mean, do you think we would have felt any better if Hillary won and we found out Donald Trump just pushed away?

00:58:27.000 I don't want to hear anything from Russia.

00:58:28.600 Well, at least Donald played by the rules.

00:58:31.180 We still lost, but we get to feel good about that.

00:58:34.500 We wouldn't have, because we'd still be stuck in the same position we are.

00:58:38.440 And he's as close as we've gotten to some kind of, any kind of revolution at all.

00:58:44.680 Okay.

00:58:45.060 Mike, I thank you very much for your phone call.

00:58:47.860 I'm up against the break.

00:58:49.140 Sounds like you've been reading Solalinski back in a minute.

00:58:51.820 So I want to talk to you a little bit about authenticity and how we are looking for authenticity and how I didn't understand what Donald Trump was tapping into.

00:59:16.620 He is very good at, let me just say this.

00:59:28.320 I've never found the guy authentic.

00:59:32.420 I haven't found him, he'll say what he needs to say to whichever crowd, he'll change his points of view, etc., etc.

00:59:41.720 I've never found him authentic and I've never understood that.

00:59:44.020 How so many people say, he's speaking for me.

00:59:48.680 What he did, what he captured that I didn't understand, and it shocks me that I didn't understand it,

00:59:55.560 was the real anger and distrust that had moved us into a new place entirely.

01:00:04.640 I want you to read a book called Tribal Leadership.

01:00:10.080 Tribal Leadership, if you just read the first third of that book and forget about that this is talking about how to run a company

01:00:18.060 and look at it about how this country is, the shape it's in, without anything to do with Donald Trump,

01:00:27.120 you will see that we are a stage one and stage two country, which means we are people that have pretty much given up that anything's going to get better.

01:00:40.200 And we are, we haven't lost all hope.

01:00:46.040 Stage one is where you've lost all hope and life sucks and you have high suicide rate, high crime rate.

01:00:51.940 People start burning things down to the ground, any of this sound familiar,

01:00:55.700 because they just don't feel like any of it's ever going to change and we just have to burn it all down to the ground.

01:01:03.140 Stage two is where I think the majority of Americans are, and that is, my life sucks.

01:01:09.940 I'm not making any progress, I'm not living any of my dreams, I'm not going to be able to send my kids to college,

01:01:15.520 and it all sucks because of fill in the blank.

01:01:19.040 You don't appeal to a stage one or stage two group of people unless you speak that same language.

01:01:29.680 And so when I heard Donald Trump, I didn't hear any soaring, we're better than this kind of stuff,

01:01:34.460 but that wouldn't have connected to the American people.

01:01:38.620 You have to be able to speak the language of, it all sucks because of,

01:01:45.200 it all sucks because of Hillary Clinton, it all sucks because of the press, it all sucks because of whatever.

01:01:52.900 And they can be real answers.

01:01:55.260 I haven't had a raise forever, because Obama has shafted us, because I can't afford my health care.

01:02:01.000 All real.

01:02:03.480 It's why when Hillary started taking the soaring speeches,

01:02:08.020 it didn't work for her, A, nobody believes her,

01:02:13.800 and B, it's not where the people of America are right now.

01:02:19.620 So that's why people feel that Donald Trump is authentic.

01:02:24.720 He's speaking their language.

01:02:28.020 And let's just say that last call, because that is a stage two call,

01:02:35.780 that guy who just called and said, look, we keep losing,

01:02:39.600 and maybe it's time we do something and play by no rules,

01:02:46.380 because they don't play by rules.

01:02:49.680 Okay, let's take that and say,

01:02:53.640 Donald Trump's son, so far we don't have any evidence that Donald Trump knew,

01:02:58.880 but Donald Trump's son did all of these things.

01:03:02.820 The problem with this is,

01:03:05.400 people keep making this about Hillary Clinton.

01:03:08.480 I get it.

01:03:09.140 I understand Hillary Clinton.

01:03:10.660 I understand Hillary Clinton is no better.

01:03:12.880 I understand that Hillary Clinton got away with this and much more.

01:03:17.340 How many people did they murder, Pat?

01:03:18.800 What was it?

01:03:19.780 I think it's over 100 now.

01:03:21.280 Over 100.

01:03:22.160 Yeah, it's over 100.

01:03:23.040 You know, they're killers.

01:03:24.120 So anyway, Hillary never got punished for the things like, you know,

01:03:29.220 her good friends stealing documents out of the National Archives,

01:03:32.780 or she's just taking top secret stuff out.

01:03:35.800 We had a problem with that because it went to our national security and put people in danger.

01:03:44.440 And even the Democrats knew she was a crook and was like, you know, I just don't trust her,

01:03:52.580 and I'm tired of her getting away with it.

01:03:54.860 That's why her base wasn't revved up.

01:03:56.920 That's why Bernie Sanders did have a base that could have swept.

01:04:03.040 That's why Donald Trump had that base that could have swept because they thought they're different.

01:04:10.180 So she lost.

01:04:11.840 She's out of our life.

01:04:14.020 He's the president.

01:04:15.440 Let's say that all these things happened,

01:04:18.700 and it was just because we got to do something.

01:04:22.320 Okay.

01:04:22.960 All right.

01:04:24.160 Here's the problem with this.

01:04:25.760 Everything that happened after he became president is very disturbing.

01:04:32.920 First, over and over, no contact with any foreign nationals.

01:04:38.020 This woman appears to have deep connections to the Kremlin.

01:04:41.420 She's not a spy, but deep connections to the Kremlin, and she's a foreign national.

01:04:46.660 Everybody who goes in has to sign a piece of paper.

01:04:49.780 I have not met with any foreign nationals.

01:04:52.480 Okay.

01:04:53.120 They lied about that.

01:04:54.280 No collusion.

01:04:56.200 We never met with a foreign national who ever brought up the election.

01:05:01.280 Okay.

01:05:01.760 They all said that they didn't, but maybe they just don't want to go to jail.

01:05:05.900 Okay.

01:05:06.380 So, and they think, that's all we did, and that was the only thing.

01:05:09.920 All right.

01:05:11.940 Then you get into felonies.

01:05:16.380 No disclosure on your top secret clearance.

01:05:19.300 So now I'm willing to commit a felony by leaving something off that's very, very important.

01:05:27.240 Now you're starting to get into Hillary Clinton territory.

01:05:29.600 And even that, I wouldn't argue.

01:05:36.320 Here's where it gets into problems.

01:05:38.920 No Russian hacking into our American organizations.

01:05:43.900 That's what Donald Trump and his team has been saying for a long time.

01:05:47.680 There's no evidence of Russian hacking.

01:05:50.160 Remember the whole thing?

01:05:51.780 WikiLeaks is not connected to the Russians.

01:05:56.240 Well, we knew that the Russians were the ones hacking.

01:05:59.260 He said he denies that it was the Russians.

01:06:02.620 He made us doubt the CIA and the NSA.

01:06:07.580 Well, we now know that the Russians were the ones that were hacking in.

01:06:14.060 We have that from multiple credible sources, not just American sources, multiple sources.

01:06:20.700 We know that they have been doing it in other countries.

01:06:23.180 And yet, for some reason, our president still denies, even though if this email is right,

01:06:29.260 we now have evidence that the people in his own team knew that that information from WikiLeaks was coming from the Russian government.

01:06:38.740 Again, worse news.

01:06:41.380 Russian hacking into polling centers.

01:06:45.000 The president has repeatedly said, and he said it again last week,

01:06:49.480 the Russians are not trying to hack into our elections.

01:06:54.420 Yes, they were.

01:06:55.640 Remember, all of the data shows that they were trying to do it.

01:06:59.900 In fact, the reason why they weren't successful in Illinois is because they were hacking at the statewide level,

01:07:07.460 because they were thinking like Russians instead of like Americans and trying to hack into the local level.

01:07:13.420 We also know they hacked into one of the companies that made the polling machines.

01:07:19.120 Did that change the election?

01:07:21.880 That's not the argument.

01:07:24.060 The argument needs to be what Congress has continued to ignore.

01:07:29.920 They are hacking in to affect and cause chaos.

01:07:34.160 And this was their first attempt.

01:07:37.180 We must fix this before the 2018 election or the 2020 election,

01:07:42.280 because foreign nationals, a Russian government, is hostile towards our election and hacking in.

01:07:50.940 The president continues to deny this.

01:07:54.460 And the last was he actually proposed,

01:07:58.260 and his cabinet thought it was a good idea until common sense reigned it all in two days later,

01:08:04.500 that we should unite and share cyber security with the Russians.

01:08:15.300 I'm sorry, but if you're Donald Jr., you go to your dad and say,

01:08:20.700 Dad, I didn't tell you this, but you should know.

01:08:23.080 The Russians came, and we used information, and I gave you information that I got from the Russians

01:08:29.000 because they were the ones hacking in on Hillary Clinton.

01:08:33.700 We can't do cyber security.

01:08:36.340 You can't continue to go out there and say that the Russians didn't hack.

01:08:40.420 You need to make sure.

01:08:42.640 You don't even have to say that we colluded.

01:08:48.280 You don't have to say that.

01:08:49.680 You can blame it all on me.

01:08:50.980 I took it.

01:08:51.640 I was stupid.

01:08:52.340 I didn't do any collusion.

01:08:54.500 I didn't do any of that, but I did meet with them, and I know this information to be true.

01:09:00.020 You've got to pay attention to what the Russians are doing because it's a danger to the country.

01:09:06.980 That has to be done.

01:09:10.140 And the fact that our president is standing by and protecting Russia

01:09:15.800 and saying things like we need to unite and share cyber security,

01:09:20.600 that there is no hacking in our polling centers is dangerous to the republic.

01:09:27.640 I don't know how we don't go there.

01:09:34.220 I don't know how we as all Americans, we take our team jersey off.

01:09:40.240 This is not about the election.

01:09:42.240 This is not about Hillary Clinton.

01:09:43.820 Hillary Clinton is not going to come in if everybody, God forbid, died in a plane crash.

01:09:50.260 Hillary Clinton still does not become president.

01:09:53.740 It's Mike Pence, who, quite honestly, the left is more afraid of Mike Pence than they are of Donald Trump.

01:10:01.000 But Hillary is not coming back.

01:10:03.540 So this has nothing to do with Hillary.

01:10:06.540 This has everything to do with protecting the republic.

01:10:10.400 Does any of that matter?

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01:11:40.700 Let me go to Don in New York.

01:11:41.960 Hello, Don.

01:11:42.640 Go ahead.

01:11:43.100 Glenn, you've taught us a lot about Saul Alinsky and what he's...

01:11:49.440 The divide and conquer thing.

01:11:52.500 He's got us right where he wants us.

01:11:54.600 And conservative radio, Republicans are all falling for it.

01:12:01.520 You ought to stay on point.

01:12:04.100 There's very important things that are happening around us that are probably...

01:12:11.280 All this confusion is designed to distract us.

01:12:14.980 And we see it.

01:12:16.560 We see people rioting over Trump and all this.

01:12:22.400 But I'm a Tech Cruz guy.

01:12:25.940 And I think Saul Alinsky's got us where he wants us.

01:12:31.400 Yeah.

01:12:31.720 I mean, it is really endgame time for the left.

01:12:37.160 And the question is, do you fight fire with fire or do you fight fire with water?

01:12:44.860 And I'm convinced that there is an opportunity here where there is a lot of people on the right and the left that want water, not more fire.

01:12:54.720 That they are tired of the yelling back and forth and the name-calling and all of that.

01:13:02.120 And they are returning to rational thoughts.

01:13:08.480 They're spitting themselves out and they're like, wait a minute, I don't want to live this way anymore.

01:13:13.900 And now they're pondering, but they don't know where to go.

01:13:16.900 There's no one leading that charge with the people who feel like you do or I do that say, I don't want to live this way anymore.

01:13:28.020 There's got to be a better way.

01:13:29.520 What am I missing?

01:13:30.880 And we each think that the other side is the devil itself.

01:13:35.360 I'm convinced that there's a lot of people on the other side that aren't the devil themselves.

01:13:40.600 We may disagree on policies, but we can find our way to each other on principles.

01:13:47.520 Now is the time because we're in a crucible and there are people waking up.

01:13:52.700 Let me go to Carrie in Connecticut.

01:13:54.400 Hello, Carrie.

01:13:55.680 Hello.

01:13:56.740 Hi, go ahead.

01:13:57.340 Thank you for taking my call.

01:13:58.480 You bet.

01:13:58.580 From going down and campaigning in South Carolina, up the coast, I saw that people that were going to vote for Trump, as you had one guest on, the only guest that came on from the Trump campaign.

01:14:16.100 And afterwards you said about her that everyone just wanted to win.

01:14:21.120 Yeah.

01:14:21.560 And that is it.

01:14:22.940 And this thing with Saul Alinsky, which is so true, and I hate saying the right or the left, everybody, the two sides, like you take the football field, are just want to win and have taken this because the other side did it.

01:14:43.620 Yeah.

01:14:44.820 It's behavior, Carrie, that we would not accept from our children.

01:14:48.980 Um, we're, we're saying, we're saying things.

01:14:52.880 Well, she did it first.

01:14:53.900 Yeah.

01:14:54.200 And somebody has to be an adult.

01:14:56.060 Carrie, thanks for your call.

01:14:56.980 Let me quickly take Bill in California.

01:14:59.440 Hello, Bill.

01:14:59.900 You're on the Gledbeck program.

01:15:01.800 Yeah.

01:15:02.100 Hi.

01:15:02.600 I'm one of these people that's tired of all this junk going on and the constant, oh, the emails and everything else.

01:15:10.840 When, you know, it didn't matter before when it was Hillary.

01:15:15.220 I mean, she's never going to be punished.

01:15:16.820 So if she's not ever brought to justice, then I don't think anybody should at this point.

01:15:22.920 I'm tired of this.

01:15:23.900 It's like, you know, the only thing we can do is what we can do ourselves.

01:15:27.820 Just let anybody do it, whatever they want.

01:15:29.900 Well, no, I mean, this is the Bubba effect.

01:15:32.060 And remember, the Bubba effect is rational.

01:15:35.680 The Bubba effect happens when people like Bill in California.

01:15:38.880 And I understand you, Bill, 100%.

01:15:40.720 Why should I pay for the crime?

01:15:43.920 Yeah.

01:15:44.160 Well, when she didn't, however, you've got to try to stop that ball from rolling.

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01:17:29.980 The judge made a ruling yesterday.

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01:18:02.660 I mean, this is nuts.

01:18:03.920 That's crazy.

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01:18:49.160 Let's get started right now.

01:18:50.500 I will make a stand.

01:18:53.920 I will raise my voice.

01:18:56.160 I will hold your hand.

01:18:58.560 Because we are one.

01:19:00.380 I will beat my drum.

01:19:02.640 I have made my choice.

01:19:04.880 We will overcome.

01:19:07.180 Because we are one.

01:19:09.160 The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

01:19:12.180 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

01:19:17.100 All right.

01:19:17.520 Let's start with Bernie Sanders.

01:19:21.960 Here is the ever affable and lovable Bernie Sanders on health care.

01:19:26.560 Obviously, nobody can predict exactly how many people will die if they lose their coverage.

01:19:34.300 Nobody can make that prediction.

01:19:36.440 Still, you're going to try.

01:19:37.160 What experts at the Harvard School of Public Health estimate is that if 23 million Americans

01:19:45.400 would be thrown off the insurance they currently have, which is what the House bill would do.

01:19:51.280 Wait, they'd be thrown off?

01:19:52.480 No, they would not be thrown off the health care rolls.

01:19:55.100 Right.

01:19:55.500 They're not thrown off.

01:19:56.820 What may happen is some people might choose not to purchase the Obamacare plans.

01:20:04.320 They may choose not to get insurance.

01:20:07.700 Because they can now.

01:20:09.940 But they're not thrown off.

01:20:11.480 Okay.

01:20:12.720 Up to.

01:20:13.880 Up to.

01:20:14.300 Up to 28,000 Americans every single year could die.

01:20:20.680 You're going to love this.

01:20:21.660 You're going to love this.

01:20:22.800 Okay.

01:20:23.000 I mean, that is unreal.

01:20:25.820 There is a new study that is out.

01:20:31.200 In fact, several studies.

01:20:33.360 In Oregon, researchers studied the effects of expanding Medicaid coverage and found zero improvement in health outcomes.

01:20:44.940 Numerous other studies support this finding on specific conditions and procedures for Medicaid expansions for public health spending generally.

01:20:55.060 Where studies do find that Medicaid has had a positive effect, it was for pregnant women and young children.

01:21:04.900 Unfortunately, that group, that coverage was not expanded by Obamacare.

01:21:12.520 Oops.

01:21:12.680 So, where it has had a positive effect is women and children.

01:21:18.720 Now, buckle up because I'm taking your ears on the greatest ride of their life.

01:21:27.120 In 2015, the age-adjusted mortality rose and life expectancy declined in the United States for the very first time since the 1990s.

01:21:43.280 Nor is it the case that states adopting the ACA's optional Medicaid expansion performed better than those rejecting it.

01:21:54.100 In fact, mortality in 2015 rose more in Medicaid expansion states.

01:22:03.520 Despite implementation of the ACA, there were 80,000 more deaths in 2015 that had mortality continued to decline during 2014-2015 at the same rate as during 20 to 2013.

01:22:24.220 So, from 2000 to 2013, 80,000 more deaths in 2015, 2014 under Obamacare than there were in all of the years leading up to it.

01:22:38.700 So, Obamacare is actually killing people.

01:22:42.180 You could read it that way.

01:22:43.300 Yes, you could.

01:22:43.940 And I'm going to since they're doing the opposite.

01:22:46.000 Exactly right.

01:22:47.200 They're saying they're making up numbers.

01:22:49.980 These are the actual numbers.

01:22:52.040 Since Obamacare passed, there has been 80,000 more deaths.

01:22:57.100 Since Obamacare passed, there is not a study out there that shows that anyone had any positive effect from expanded Medicare except for women and children.

01:23:08.980 And women and children, that coverage was not expanded.

01:23:13.720 And you know why?

01:23:15.400 It's bizarre, but you know why they think those numbers are like that?

01:23:18.900 It's not because you go to the doctors, like healthcare improves.

01:23:22.460 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:23:23.500 Are you going into this?

01:23:25.040 No, go ahead.

01:23:26.120 Because they believe what is happening is people who did not have insurance before who are healthy and don't really need insurance or would not have needed it.

01:23:37.000 They got through the year, they would have been healthy.

01:23:38.340 But they were previously uninsured.

01:23:41.720 Now, a good portion of these people have been able to get access to things like opioids, which are starting addictions, and they are overdosing.

01:23:54.660 The overdose rate is actually explaining much of the difference in the death rate.

01:23:59.400 And it's showing up in places where Medicaid was expanded at a higher rate than in places where it wasn't.

01:24:07.720 So we know the opioid thing is really bad for everybody.

01:24:10.720 However, it's worse in places where you've increased and given away free insurance, where the people are going to get the free drugs, and they can start addictions or worsen them, or free up money to buy worse things like heroin.

01:24:21.880 Isn't that fun?

01:24:22.740 That's so fun.

01:24:23.400 I mean, like, again, you can never predict these things.

01:24:25.980 There's always unintended consequences.

01:24:28.000 Certainly, Obamacare was not passed with the idea to kill people.

01:24:30.480 No.

01:24:30.900 But it's still...

01:24:32.120 And again, it's not Obamacare that has killed people.

01:24:37.380 It is people choosing now what to do with their money or their doctor that's killing 80,000 more people.

01:24:47.000 Although...

01:24:47.680 And that was one year, and I'm not going to do what the left does.

01:24:51.860 I just want to point out that when it comes to Medicaid, there is, with the expansion, grandma's not going to lose her Medicaid.

01:25:02.680 Who's going to lose and have to go on to the government dole in another way, are the only ones that were expanded.

01:25:12.980 And those were for adults that aren't in a special, you know, need.

01:25:21.320 They're not the elderly, and they're not the women and children.

01:25:25.200 That's who is supposed to be covered by all of this.

01:25:28.720 The groups that grew, there was no impact.

01:25:34.840 The only impact in positive health was for women and children, and that part was not expanded.

01:25:42.120 It's really beautiful if you were to put it that way, but I am going to do what the left does.

01:25:45.940 And I'm going to say, Obamacare is single-handedly killing 80,000 Americans a year.

01:25:50.220 Oh, my God.

01:25:50.780 80,000 Americans a year with its bare hands.

01:25:53.900 Killing them.

01:25:54.860 I mean...

01:25:55.300 Murdering innocent Americans.

01:25:57.440 Obamacare.

01:25:58.020 Blood.

01:25:58.680 Blood.

01:25:58.980 Running in the streets.

01:25:59.940 Piles of bodies everywhere.

01:26:01.920 Yeah.

01:26:02.220 Women and children running for their lives.

01:26:04.680 Heads on pikes.

01:26:06.860 Cats and dogs living together.

01:26:10.040 It's really a bizarre thing to look at, though, because this stuff happens all the time.

01:26:15.120 How many other programs have we talked about?

01:26:17.720 Government programs that get implemented and do the opposite.

01:26:20.420 We raise minimum wages.

01:26:21.780 We lower...

01:26:22.900 That just happened in Seattle.

01:26:23.840 They raise minimum wage to not even to $15 an hour.

01:26:26.620 And the initial studies are showing that people are actually making less money overall because of it.

01:26:33.840 This is not a stunning thing to a conservative or a libertarian.

01:26:39.440 But it seems to just, like, mesmerize the public.

01:26:43.280 All they can take at the time these things break is what the government tells them.

01:26:48.660 They accepted every Obamacare thing.

01:26:51.200 We're going to save $2,500.

01:26:53.080 People would say, this is going to cost a lot of money.

01:26:54.940 And they would say, fact check, false.

01:26:56.160 It will save $2,500.

01:26:58.180 Like, that's just the president saying it.

01:27:00.420 You can't just accept that.

01:27:02.320 We would never do that.

01:27:04.340 And it happens over and over and over again.

01:27:06.580 Well, here's the problem.

01:27:10.000 If a car company did this, they would go out of business.

01:27:14.960 Because the government would hold them responsible.

01:27:18.500 If Humana did this, the government would hold them responsible.

01:27:23.620 If all the people that Humana went out with an advertising campaign and said, you're going to save $2,500.

01:27:31.340 And it ended up that your rate went up 141%.

01:27:35.960 Everyone would have someone to run to and they would run to the press and they would run to the government and the government would shut Humana down for false advertising.

01:27:47.180 But there's no one to run to.

01:27:49.300 That's why our veterans are in such bad shape.

01:27:52.260 Who are you going to run to?

01:27:54.720 The government?

01:27:56.680 The press?

01:27:58.040 The press doesn't want to show that socialized medicine, because that's what that is.

01:28:02.200 They don't want to show that socialized medicine doesn't work and show the hell that that really is.

01:28:07.460 And the government isn't going to do anything.

01:28:10.840 You know, yesterday, I congratulated the president for actually firing, what was it, 500 people at the VA?

01:28:19.400 First of all, that is 0.9% of those employed.

01:28:26.560 But I'll take that.

01:28:27.600 That's 500 more people than Barack Obama fired.

01:28:30.560 So I'm thrilled.

01:28:32.720 However, one thing you should be aware of is the government unions.

01:28:40.600 They are contesting all of those fires.

01:28:44.440 And in fact, the first guy he fired already has his job back.

01:28:50.400 You are going to see these people sue the government.

01:28:53.640 And sue to make sure, with their union, to make sure that they were treated fairly, etc.

01:29:02.060 They're going to be coming back into the system.

01:29:05.240 And those who don't, I guarantee you, you will still be paying for in a rubber room.

01:29:11.080 Just like the unions have with teachers in Manhattan.

01:29:16.760 Nothing's being fixed here.

01:29:18.700 And that's the real tragedy.

01:29:21.900 Because we all know that it can be fixed.

01:29:25.420 We all know that.

01:29:27.360 We all know that it should be fixed and can be fixed.

01:29:30.620 It's just that people aren't serious.

01:29:32.620 And the system is so big that you don't even know how to get your arms around it.

01:29:37.460 You don't even know what to do.

01:29:39.300 That's why the founders wanted to keep things so small and so local.

01:29:42.960 Because the local people, it would never get to be so big that the local people couldn't fix it.

01:29:51.120 And if the local people couldn't fix it, the state would be able to fix it.

01:29:55.480 You've gone to the highest authority.

01:29:58.660 And now they control everything.

01:30:00.740 Where do you go when they can't fix it?

01:30:04.240 Nowhere to go.

01:30:05.500 The UN?

01:30:06.580 Speaking of things that are so big you can't get your arms around them.

01:30:09.220 Did you hear Chris Christie on the radio yesterday?

01:30:12.960 No, we'll do that next.

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01:31:34.660 The Glenn Beck Program.

01:31:38.200 Mercury.

01:31:42.200 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

01:31:46.260 Okay.

01:31:49.200 Donald Trump Jr. just released what he says is the whole email chain, but it is not.

01:31:56.580 It is.

01:31:57.360 Most of it, it seems like.

01:31:58.460 Yeah, it's not the setup.

01:32:02.500 Good morning.

01:32:03.420 Would it be possible to move the meeting to 4 p.m. as the Russian attorney is in court until 3?

01:32:09.320 I was just informed.

01:32:10.380 Best, Rob.

01:32:12.140 Great.

01:32:12.920 It'll likely be Paul Manafort, campaign boss, my brother-in-law.

01:32:16.100 You're on a later part of this, I think.

01:32:17.980 Oh, am I?

01:32:18.180 Yeah, yeah.

01:32:19.700 It starts with, so they're talking about this meeting, which he explains in a statement that's left off.

01:32:30.760 Okay, I have the statement.

01:32:34.080 To everyone, in order to be totally transparent, I'm releasing the entire email chain of my emails with Rob Goldstone about the meeting June 9th.

01:32:40.860 First email June 3rd was from Rob, who was relating the request from Emin, the person I knew from 2013, Miss Universe Pageant near Moscow.

01:32:50.300 That's the one that's not included.

01:32:51.380 Right, and that, I think, is probably an important one, because it's the first one saying what the meeting would be for.

01:32:57.840 The information they suggested, yes, see, they had about Hillary Clinton, I thought was political opposition research.

01:33:03.820 I first wanted to have a phone call, but when that didn't work out, they said the woman would be in New York, and they asked if I would meet.

01:33:10.580 I decided to take the meeting.

01:33:11.680 The woman, as she had said public, was not a government official, and as I have said, she had no information to provide and wanted to talk about adoption policy.

01:33:18.840 To put this in context, it occurred before the current Russian fever was in vogue.

01:33:23.620 And that is important to note, by the way.

01:33:26.500 This was before everyone was claiming that they were working with Russia, before any of that happened.

01:33:32.260 So if you take the Donald Trump Jr. kind of view of it, it was not an issue with Russia, and he gets a call from a friend, and, you know, hey, sure, I'll take the meeting.

01:33:42.860 You can argue that.

01:33:43.760 My problem is not even taking the meeting.

01:33:50.820 It really isn't.

01:33:52.120 It's what happens after.

01:33:56.460 But he knows that she's a Russian attorney, and, you know, track him down in Moscow, blah, blah, blah.

01:34:02.760 He knows she's flying in from Moscow.

01:34:04.960 Right.

01:34:05.460 So here's the whole chain.

01:34:08.020 The initial email is cut off, as you mentioned.

01:34:10.280 Then Rob, the guy from Russia, emails and says, let me track him down in Russia.

01:34:14.900 What number should he call?

01:34:15.800 So as Trump Jr. says, he was looking to set up a call first.

01:34:19.960 That was his first hope.

01:34:22.100 Then he says, oh, okay, he's on stage in Moscow, but should be off in 20 minutes so I can have him call.

01:34:27.180 All right.

01:34:27.700 Then Rob, again, from Russia, emails again and says, Don, hope all is well.

01:34:34.580 Amin asked that I schedule a meeting with you and the Russian government attorney.

01:34:38.520 So that is how it is introduced.

01:34:40.200 Yeah, he's introduced a Russian government attorney who is flying over from Moscow for this Thursday.

01:34:45.500 I believe you are aware of this meeting and wondered if 3 p.m. or later this Thursday worked for you.

01:34:49.580 I assumed it would be at your office.

01:34:51.280 Then Don replies, how about 3 p.m. at our office?

01:34:56.400 Thanks, Rob.

01:34:56.860 Appreciate you helping set it up.

01:34:58.540 Perfect.

01:34:59.040 Rob responds.

01:34:59.880 Yep.

01:35:00.160 Perfect.

01:35:00.680 I won't sit in on the meeting, but I'll bring them at 3 p.m. and introduce you.

01:35:04.020 I'll send you the names of two people meeting with you for security when you have them later today.

01:35:09.680 Would it be possible to move the meeting until 4 p.m. as the Russian attorney?

01:35:12.920 So, again, Donald Trump Jr. has been told it's a Russian attorney twice, but once a Russian government attorney.

01:35:21.220 Yes.

01:35:21.460 And we don't know how she was introduced to him in the first email.

01:35:25.540 It's the one that I have a feeling is the one the New York Times was talking about is the first email of this chain.

01:35:34.680 Yeah.

01:35:34.840 Now, no part of this email chain that has been disclosed says he was going to meet with her to find out dirt on Hillary Clinton.

01:35:44.940 No.

01:35:45.020 However, that comes directly from Donald Trump Jr., who said he was going to try to get opposition research against her.

01:35:51.960 So, that's understood.

01:35:53.420 The question is, the only thing that's revealed in this is that it was introduced to Donald Trump Jr. as a Russian government attorney.

01:36:00.180 Correct.

01:36:00.400 Who's providing this information.

01:36:01.520 And that's really all the New York Times report said today.

01:36:04.420 I mean, it said...

01:36:05.860 No, it said that it was also getting opposition research.

01:36:08.560 Right, but he's already admitted that.

01:36:10.080 Right.

01:36:10.320 He admitted that yesterday.

01:36:11.160 Correct, but getting opposition research from a government, a Russian government attorney, is now different.

01:36:20.840 Also new information of who this guy is that he's writing back and forth with.

01:36:25.080 This is a guy, an English music producer, who helped admin, I think that's the father of a big star.

01:36:36.840 Trump has made videos with this kid.

01:36:41.800 He's been over for his birthday party.

01:36:44.760 It is...

01:36:46.120 Trump's, like, you know, really big...

01:36:49.660 He gave him the Citizen of Honor Award in Russia.

01:36:56.700 Putin did.

01:36:57.700 He's close friends.

01:36:58.940 He's one of the biggest oligarchs over there.

01:37:01.360 He is side by side with Putin.

01:37:05.200 I will say this is a smart way for Donald Trump Jr. to handle this, though.

01:37:08.520 Oh, very smart.

01:37:09.060 Actually put it out.

01:37:09.620 Oh, yeah.

01:37:09.960 Like, you know...

01:37:10.660 Again, he didn't put out the first one, which is concerning.

01:37:14.260 But putting it out, most people aren't even going to read it.

01:37:17.100 They're going to say, oh, well, he put it out, even though they didn't even read it.

01:37:21.400 So it's a very smart move on the Trump side to release this.

01:37:26.000 Back in just a second.

01:37:26.880 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

01:37:36.780 Mercury.

01:37:40.520 The Glenn Beck Program.

01:37:44.620 Yeah.

01:37:46.080 Hmm.

01:37:48.260 So that first...

01:37:49.320 Probably not good.

01:37:50.220 The first email is out now.

01:37:52.020 Okay, so...

01:37:52.620 One that was cut off initially.

01:37:53.780 So let me go through this with you.

01:37:55.700 This morning, two hours ago, we were talking to you about a hypothetical, something that

01:38:01.680 the New York Times and CNN said they had seen, and we added the caveat.

01:38:07.720 If it says that, you know, they have information and he knows that it's from the Russian government,

01:38:16.120 then there's a problem.

01:38:17.900 But we didn't trust the New York Times and CNN.

01:38:21.800 We didn't trust them.

01:38:21.880 We didn't trust them.

01:38:22.800 So...

01:38:23.200 This is, I believe, worse than what I thought.

01:38:27.980 Here is the first email from Rob Goldstone.

01:38:32.020 Good morning.

01:38:33.520 Amin just called and asked me to contact you with something very interesting.

01:38:37.620 Now, so you know, Amin is a very good friend of Donald Trump Sr., and is, you know, very,

01:38:46.220 very close with Vladimir Putin.

01:38:50.220 Worked with him on the Miss Universe thing.

01:38:51.820 Yes.

01:38:52.140 In Russia.

01:38:53.060 Yes.

01:38:53.520 He's a Russian citizen.

01:38:55.020 An oligarch.

01:38:56.100 A bad one.

01:38:57.240 Amin just called and asked me to contact you with something very interesting.

01:39:00.720 The Crown Prosecutor of Russia met with his father, Aris, this morning.

01:39:08.800 And actually, Aris is the oligarch.

01:39:11.440 Amin is the son.

01:39:13.400 The Crown Prosecutor of Russia met with his father, Aris, this morning.

01:39:18.080 And in their meeting, offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents

01:39:24.120 and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia, and would be

01:39:30.600 very useful to your father.

01:39:33.240 This is obviously very high level and sensitive information, but it is part of Russia and its

01:39:40.460 government support for Mr. Trump.

01:39:43.020 I never thought, no way, you couldn't have, I think a lot of things about the Trumps, no

01:39:50.360 way were they involved in collusion.

01:39:52.880 This is obviously very high level and sensitive information, but this is part of Russia and

01:39:58.220 its government support for Mr. Trump, helped along by Aris and Amin.

01:40:04.260 What do you think the best way to handle this information would be?

01:40:07.640 Will you be able to speak to Amin about it directly?

01:40:11.440 I also can send this information to your father via Rona, but it is ultra sensitive, so

01:40:17.680 I wanted to send it to you first.

01:40:21.240 Thanks, Rob.

01:40:22.060 I appreciate it.

01:40:22.760 I'm on the road for a moment.

01:40:23.940 I could just speak to Amin first.

01:40:26.060 Seems like we have some time.

01:40:28.020 And if it's what you say, I love it, especially late in the summer, meaning coordination.

01:40:38.260 Could we do a call first thing next week when I'm back?

01:40:41.520 Yes, Don, let me know when you're free to talk with Amin by phone about this Hillary information.

01:40:48.240 You had mentioned earlier this week, so I tried to schedule time and best day to you and your family, Rob.

01:40:54.440 Holy cow.

01:40:56.220 Holy cow.

01:40:57.780 That is.

01:41:00.360 There you're there's your smoking gun.

01:41:02.660 It's not just isn't it?

01:41:05.240 It's amazing.

01:41:05.660 I mean, first of all, again, like you have to say that the New York Times report was accurate.

01:41:11.060 I mean, this is exactly what they said was in it.

01:41:13.340 This was released by Donald Trump Jr.

01:41:15.560 Yes.

01:41:15.800 So we know 100 percent it comes from Trump.

01:41:18.080 Yeah.

01:41:18.620 So we know that that's accurate.

01:41:20.080 I mean, you know, look, I think you can still make the argument that, hey, he got this.

01:41:24.620 He got the tip from some guy he knows, didn't think about it from a foreign, you know, I mean, it says right in there, but was excited to get information to beat up his opponent.

01:41:34.200 But he was coordinating.

01:41:35.660 Listen, listen, there's no way.

01:41:38.060 I mean, Stu, help me, please convince me, convince me.

01:41:42.900 Crown prosecutor of Russia.

01:41:44.780 So that's not the girl he's going to meet with.

01:41:47.760 He's saying the crown prosecutor of Russia.

01:41:50.200 I thought that is the I thought the crown prosecutor.

01:41:52.280 That is what they're referring to when they say, I'm not sure.

01:41:54.880 I don't know.

01:41:55.240 The female lawyer.

01:41:55.940 Yeah.

01:41:56.280 I don't know.

01:41:56.720 But they refer to the lawyer as him in that email.

01:42:00.760 Yes.

01:42:01.340 Yeah.

01:42:01.580 So I don't think it's the same.

01:42:02.620 It can't be the same person.

01:42:04.820 What he's saying here is the crown prosecutor of Russia.

01:42:07.220 So that's like the attorney general of Russia.

01:42:09.220 The attorney general of Russia met with Amin's father, the good friend of Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin.

01:42:20.160 They met this morning about whatever we don't know.

01:42:23.460 And in the meeting, he offered to provide the Trump campaign.

01:42:27.240 So now here is the attorney general going to an oligarch saying, hey, you're friends with Donald Trump, right?

01:42:34.280 Yeah.

01:42:34.880 I want you to pass on to them that we have information at a very high level that we want to pass to them.

01:42:41.760 We have official documents and information that will incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia.

01:42:47.020 It'll be very useful for them.

01:42:50.040 So then the father asks Amin to call Goldstone, who knows Donald Trump Jr., and say, hey, can we get this?

01:43:01.940 By the way, Aris is going to fax this through Rhonda just to get it to your dad.

01:43:08.020 But it's very high level, and I wanted to talk to somebody and let them know that it was coming.

01:43:13.600 He then says, it's very high level, sensitive information, but it is part, it is part of Russia and its government support for Mr. Trump, helped along by Aris and Amin.

01:43:28.620 So, in other words, somebody, I don't even want to jump there.

01:43:34.480 We know that a good friend, an oligarch of Donald Trump, has been helping the government along to support Donald Trump.

01:43:44.040 I'll send this information to your father.

01:43:48.620 I will send this information to your father via Rona.

01:43:54.780 I mean, I mean, this is it's a night.

01:43:57.300 It's going to be a nightmare.

01:43:58.140 This is it's over are going to.

01:44:01.120 How do you not go with this?

01:44:03.060 Well, I mean, look, I think you can make an argument.

01:44:06.560 It's not as bad as it feels.

01:44:09.760 However, I would say, well, because, I mean, look, Donald Trump Jr. is just, he's not in, he's not in, he's not in part of the administration.

01:44:16.200 I will send the information to your father via Rona.

01:44:18.940 Right, but he didn't, right?

01:44:19.860 I mean, it went to, as far as we know, at least at this point, it went to him instead.

01:44:24.620 But now, of course, he's going to tell his dad about it, right?

01:44:26.680 Although he said he didn't get anything out of the game.

01:44:28.240 No, he didn't.

01:44:28.740 He already said he didn't tell his dad.

01:44:30.080 His dad didn't know.

01:44:31.300 My point would be, you can argue that it wasn't, wasn't, I don't know.

01:44:39.140 Like, to me, I would never take a meeting with a government official, even if it was trying to sink an opponent.

01:44:45.320 So I can't, I don't understand why you would do that.

01:44:47.660 But you know what?

01:44:48.520 Look, remember, this is not only people who have dealt in these circles for a while and do anything to win, as they say, as they've pointed out a million times.

01:44:56.140 They were also, at the time, pretty desperate, if you remember right.

01:44:59.780 So, is it, so that maybe, did they bend this line and take this meeting?

01:45:03.220 I think the answer to that is yes.

01:45:04.480 But wait, yes, they did.

01:45:05.880 However.

01:45:06.420 Wait, wait, you gotta, let's look at this.

01:45:08.960 This is still three weeks before WikiLeaks breaks.

01:45:12.780 And Donald Trump acts surprised.

01:45:15.780 We all knew at the time WikiLeaks got their information from the Kremlin.

01:45:21.700 This is Russia feeding this and leaking this.

01:45:25.180 So, we know now that Russia was hacking in to the DNC servers, was gathering sensitive information.

01:45:34.880 And then, this is treason.

01:45:36.780 We've got a guy on the other side, on Russia, that released information.

01:45:41.960 And we say it's treason.

01:45:43.120 If he comes back and he tried for treason, what's his face?

01:45:46.320 Yeah.

01:45:47.400 Snowden.

01:45:48.000 Snowden.

01:45:48.600 We think that's treason when he's done that to us.

01:45:51.720 So, here's Russia doing to it.

01:45:54.040 Now, they can't be treasonous because they're not Americans.

01:45:58.440 That, they released, they hacked, they got in, they stole the information, and then released it to the world.

01:46:05.280 And Donald Trump was acting like it was a surprise and like, oh, please, Russia, go ahead, release the rest.

01:46:13.040 Glenn, when you put it like that, sure, it sounds bad.

01:46:15.440 Oh, my gosh.

01:46:16.280 I mean, do you have to put it like that?

01:46:18.540 No.

01:46:19.040 No, you don't.

01:46:19.400 No, I don't.

01:46:19.840 You can put it another way.

01:46:20.940 You can put it some other way.

01:46:22.220 I can guarantee you everyone else will be.

01:46:25.220 Oh, the Democrats are going to put it a lot worse than that.

01:46:28.560 Oh, yeah.

01:46:29.000 No, but the Republicans are also going to close.

01:46:32.300 We're witnessing, Pat, what you and I remember in the 1970s with our dads.

01:46:39.500 Yeah.

01:46:39.960 We remember, I remember my dad defending Nixon.

01:46:44.720 Turning into a crook.

01:46:45.800 Yeah.

01:46:46.360 And it was only at the very end.

01:46:48.860 Yeah.

01:46:50.300 Supported him.

01:46:51.280 Supported him.

01:46:51.860 Non-stop until all the evidence came out.

01:46:55.480 Right.

01:46:55.860 And then.

01:46:56.320 Tell me how you get.

01:46:58.580 Tell me how you have a family that doesn't tell the president that, yes, dad, the Russians

01:47:09.080 were colluding with us.

01:47:11.760 There's almost no way he doesn't know.

01:47:13.420 And that's.

01:47:13.940 There's almost no way.

01:47:14.900 Right.

01:47:15.100 Where, I mean, I think you could still make an argument.

01:47:17.360 Look, you're trying to find information.

01:47:21.280 Against your, you know, to help your dad.

01:47:24.340 And you take a meeting that maybe you shouldn't have taken.

01:47:27.540 And, but, you know, nothing really came of it.

01:47:29.420 So you kind of blew it off in your head.

01:47:30.800 You can make that argument.

01:47:32.160 It's a stretch at some level.

01:47:33.900 I grant you.

01:47:34.720 And I don't necessarily believe it.

01:47:35.720 But like, I think you can make that case.

01:47:37.940 It's very difficult to understand how after you've won the presidency and you're in the

01:47:43.240 middle of an investigation on this topic, how this could not have been disclosed until

01:47:47.800 last week.

01:47:48.380 Right.

01:47:48.820 And beyond that, how this could be disclosed last in the last couple of weeks that this

01:47:56.840 even happened.

01:47:58.340 And before that, and even after that, your father, the president of the United States is

01:48:05.420 saying there was no collusion.

01:48:07.460 I mean, you know, honestly, let's say that Hillary Clinton really didn't know that her husband

01:48:16.400 was fooling around.

01:48:17.340 We all think that she did.

01:48:19.000 But once she found out, don't you say, you son of a bitch, you did this to me.

01:48:29.800 Let's just put yourself in this situation.

01:48:32.620 You're the president of the United States.

01:48:36.000 Your son is exchanging emails like this.

01:48:40.340 And then he leaves with your son-in-law and your campaign manager, and they start to write

01:48:47.240 speeches about this kind of information.

01:48:51.700 You start tweeting stuff, and you really don't know.

01:48:56.720 And then you win.

01:48:58.140 Okay.

01:48:59.380 Then it starts to be investigated, and you have me go out in front of everybody going,

01:49:04.260 there is no collusion.

01:49:05.440 I'm telling you there's no collusion.

01:49:07.640 We never did that.

01:49:08.720 We didn't talk to anybody from Russia.

01:49:10.920 There was never any coordination of anything.

01:49:14.300 In fact, I believe them so much, I'm telling you, our CIA and our NSA is wrong,

01:49:22.800 and they'll never find anything because there wasn't anything there,

01:49:27.080 and they didn't not only collude with us, they're not even trying to hack into our systems

01:49:33.220 and try to affect our elections.

01:49:35.700 And that's why I'm suggesting we partner up with Russia and we share cybersecurity together.

01:49:41.640 Then you read today, and you really are innocent.

01:49:45.980 You had nothing to do with it.

01:49:47.020 You're president of the United States.

01:49:48.480 Do you not go in and say, son, excuse me, but you son of a bitch, what the hell were you thinking?

01:49:58.800 You let me spend the last nine months, eight months telling the American people,

01:50:04.660 I just met with Putin, and you knew that he was colluding with you,

01:50:11.260 and I suggested cybersecurity partnership when they were the ones that hacked into the DNC,

01:50:18.060 and you knew it?

01:50:20.040 Oh, my gosh.

01:50:21.680 Oh, my gosh.

01:50:23.300 Yeah.

01:50:23.600 This is very, very close to treason.

01:50:29.260 I mean, because, well, you could look at, from the Trump perspective, from the Donald Trump senior perspective,

01:50:34.700 if you're looking, if you want to look at this as we know it right now,

01:50:38.680 we don't have evidence that Donald even knew about this meeting, right?

01:50:43.680 We know that Kushner and, but Kushner left two minutes into it, reportedly,

01:50:48.820 and Manafort didn't say anything in the meeting.

01:50:51.440 We do know that Rob Goldstone said, I can send this information to your father via Rona.

01:50:57.540 We don't know that that happened.

01:50:59.560 We don't know if that happened.

01:51:00.880 He just suggested it as a possibility.

01:51:02.220 But again, like, for example, Kellyanne Conway was out on the air a few weeks ago,

01:51:07.520 or maybe a couple months ago, saying no meetings happen from anyone in the campaign with anyone from Russia.

01:51:15.460 That is absolutely false.

01:51:17.060 It never happened.

01:51:18.160 You guys just keep saying fake news and saying it happens.

01:51:20.540 When did she say that?

01:51:21.140 It was on, Stephanop.

01:51:22.000 We have the clip.

01:51:22.720 We can maybe grab it.

01:51:23.380 So was this the weekend?

01:51:24.740 So, no, they brought her back on this weekend and said, hey, wait a minute.

01:51:27.280 Actually, there were meetings, weren't there?

01:51:28.940 And she said, well, it looks like those disclosure forms have been updated.

01:51:32.100 So, yes.

01:51:32.840 But, I mean, imagine sending your own people out, knowing that information, and telling them to deny it.

01:51:39.740 It's unbelievable.

01:51:39.940 Donald Trump Jr., by himself, let's not implicate anybody else,

01:51:45.920 all we know is that Donald Trump Jr. knew that there was collusion.

01:51:49.280 He was part of the collusion.

01:51:50.520 Very bad.

01:51:53.040 Very bad.

01:51:53.980 And should go to jail.

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01:53:05.360 This, um, I have to tell you, I am, I am really, uh, I am shocked.

01:53:12.100 I am, I am literally shocked.

01:53:14.580 I have said for almost a year, you think whatever you want, but I, you're just not going to find

01:53:20.900 collusion.

01:53:21.520 You're not going to find them, you know, uh, meeting with Boris.

01:53:26.140 That just didn't happen.

01:53:28.040 Um, I really am shocked by this email.

01:53:35.300 He just released it.

01:53:36.580 Donald Trump Jr.

01:53:37.260 Just released it because the New York Times had it and was going to release it here in

01:53:40.240 an hour or so with a story.

01:53:42.180 Um, oh boy.

01:53:43.180 Stu just covered his eyes.

01:53:45.760 Rob Goldstone actually checked in on Facebook at Trump Tower on June 9th.

01:53:50.580 These people are amazing.

01:53:52.500 Yeah.

01:53:52.940 Um, wow.

01:53:54.060 So, um, I just never thought that you would have something like this.

01:53:59.480 This shows that, yes, he knew he was meeting with a government official, that these were

01:54:04.120 official government documents, um, and that, uh, he said, hey, this is great, uh, especially

01:54:11.760 later this summer.

01:54:12.780 That is saying, that's colluding.

01:54:15.120 That's giving you the tip of, hey, it'll be more helpful, you know, maybe around August

01:54:19.400 than it is right now, but I love it.

01:54:21.980 I, I can't believe that this has happened.

01:54:25.840 Yeah, well, Hillary, look at her emails.

01:54:28.660 Look at the Hillary emails.

01:54:30.060 What about her?

01:54:30.900 What about that?

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The Glenn Beck Program - July 11, 2017

7⧸11⧸17 - Treason？

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