The Glenn Beck Program - 7⧸6⧸17 - This Is What Happens To Socialized Health Care？ (Ben Shapiro Joins Glenn)

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00:00:07.900 Hello America, and welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:00:11.360 I don't think there is anything in the world, literally,

00:00:16.780 that is more important than the case in Great Britain.

00:00:21.660 I know our president needs to be prayed for,

00:00:25.320 needs divine protection.

00:00:27.500 Over in Europe, he's meeting in Poland,

00:00:31.060 he is meeting with Putin, the G20.

00:00:35.000 In Germany, they have said that the soldiers

00:00:37.600 that are protecting the G20 need to take their uniforms off

00:00:40.760 for their own safety.

00:00:42.680 They're expecting major riots.

00:00:45.220 We have North Korea on the edge.

00:00:47.960 My wife was leaving this morning for the airport,

00:00:51.200 and I told her, honey, I don't think this is going to happen,

00:00:54.260 but you're gone for a week and a half.

00:00:56.220 If war breaks out and I call you and say,

00:01:00.480 get on an airplane, please get on an airplane and come home.

00:01:06.100 The world is a mess.

00:01:08.840 We are in a place where we could lose the Western way of life.

00:01:15.520 But I am more concerned about us losing our own humanity.

00:01:23.080 And it all comes down to a little child in intensive care in a hospital

00:01:29.760 that is run literally by Peter Pan.

00:01:34.800 The story of Charlie Gard, vital to our humanity.

00:01:41.180 We begin there, right now.

00:01:43.640 I will make a stand.

00:01:46.480 I will raise my voice.

00:01:48.740 I will hold your hand.

00:01:51.140 Because we are one.

00:01:52.980 I will beat my drum.

00:01:55.220 I have made my choice.

00:01:57.480 We will overcome.

00:01:59.800 Because we are one.

00:02:01.860 The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

00:02:04.780 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:02:13.640 Charlie Gard, a story that the English are very aware of.

00:02:20.580 And it is a really important case for the entire West.

00:02:27.940 It's a story that up until Matt Walsh reported this on The Blaze,

00:02:33.640 it was not being reported here in America.

00:02:37.340 Matt's going to be on with us next hour.

00:02:39.220 He broke this story, really,

00:02:41.320 or broke it into the consciousness of America

00:02:44.940 with a story that he wrote about this infant.

00:02:51.900 This baby that is fighting for its life.

00:02:56.120 Charlie Gard.

00:02:57.940 He's on life support in a London hospital.

00:03:01.200 He has a rare genetic disorder.

00:03:04.500 There's only 16 people in the world that have had this.

00:03:08.580 It prevents his cells from producing enough energy

00:03:11.780 to sustain his organs.

00:03:13.880 At this moment, he can't move or breathe on his own.

00:03:22.880 The parents have raised $1.6 or $7 million

00:03:26.760 to move Charlie to an American hospital.

00:03:32.320 Why would you move him to an American hospital?

00:03:34.900 Well, because socialized medicine

00:03:36.880 is not as good as the medicine here in the United States.

00:03:41.780 There is a doctor here at Columbia

00:03:44.320 that has dealt with this very genetic disorder before.

00:03:50.600 And there is a child that is living with this now,

00:03:53.920 five years after treatment,

00:03:55.320 and is doing better.

00:03:58.700 Off the ventilator,

00:04:00.920 beginning to move his hands and his feet.

00:04:04.560 And the parents say he's a happy child.

00:04:07.060 But does he have a life worth living?

00:04:11.820 What kind of life is that?

00:04:16.460 The hospital took the parents to court.

00:04:20.240 They said they need to let the baby die.

00:04:24.380 They won a series of court rulings.

00:04:27.340 The final one, last week in their Supreme Court.

00:04:30.440 It was an EU decision.

00:04:34.800 It allowed them to turn off the ventilator

00:04:37.000 and the feeding machines that are keeping Charlie alive.

00:04:41.320 They asked for just a few more days.

00:04:45.600 They say there's this experimental therapy

00:04:48.300 in the United States.

00:04:49.980 They have the money.

00:04:51.620 The Pope has offered help.

00:04:57.780 Donald Trump has offered help.

00:05:03.420 And yet, Theresa May

00:05:05.820 is saying the child has to die.

00:05:09.060 We're going to tell you this story today

00:05:17.720 because this is not about an isolated child.

00:05:25.480 Slate Magazine

00:05:26.680 already, immediately

00:05:29.380 puts out a story.

00:05:32.400 The right is going to make this into a horror story

00:05:35.460 for socialized medicine and death panels.

00:05:38.480 Yes.

00:05:39.660 We're not going to make it into a story.

00:05:41.620 We're going to tell you the truth.

00:05:43.680 This is what death panels look like.

00:05:47.180 There is a group of people at the hospital

00:05:49.460 who say this child

00:05:51.340 has no livable life of quality

00:05:55.220 and they don't want the child to live anymore.

00:06:01.660 Why?

00:06:02.940 Why?

00:06:03.480 Why not give the child back to the parents?

00:06:07.840 Why not let the child go overseas

00:06:13.660 for experimental surgery

00:06:16.660 or experimental treatment?

00:06:18.240 Why not?

00:06:19.460 Well, it's causing the child so much pain.

00:06:23.080 They're living in pain.

00:06:26.580 May I ask you a question?

00:06:29.360 Do you know anybody who has cancer?

00:06:31.220 Do you know anybody who has stage 4 cancer

00:06:34.820 and has been given the death sentence by the doctor?

00:06:38.620 Some of those people say,

00:06:41.000 okay, you know what?

00:06:42.400 I just want to live my life.

00:06:44.000 I don't want to go on more chemotherapy.

00:06:47.140 I don't want anything.

00:06:48.100 I'm going to use the last 5 months, 2 months,

00:06:51.600 a year of my life

00:06:52.860 to live it as fully as I can.

00:06:56.140 Other people that I know

00:06:57.820 are in so much pain

00:06:59.720 they can barely move

00:07:01.100 and they're begging for experimental surgery,

00:07:05.260 begging for experimental therapy,

00:07:07.960 begging for experimental drugs,

00:07:10.080 and their case is the same.

00:07:13.280 It might work

00:07:15.060 even if it doesn't.

00:07:17.940 It will further

00:07:19.100 the medical understanding of cancer

00:07:22.000 and perhaps cure people later.

00:07:24.580 Since when do we

00:07:29.440 accept a death penalty?

00:07:33.240 Now that's different than

00:07:34.580 somebody is

00:07:36.280 a hundred years old

00:07:39.540 and they've lived a great life

00:07:42.360 and we're doing everything we can

00:07:46.220 and they have no money

00:07:48.160 just to keep them alive.

00:07:51.560 nature is calling them home.

00:07:59.320 But you could make the case, yes,

00:08:02.820 but if there's experimental

00:08:04.320 life-prolonging medicine out there

00:08:08.040 that is the fountain of youth,

00:08:11.560 if that person at 99 or 100 years old

00:08:14.480 says, you know what?

00:08:15.360 I want to live longer

00:08:16.460 and I have the money

00:08:18.160 and I want that experimental treatment,

00:08:21.000 I don't have a problem with it, do you?

00:08:23.320 Why should I care?

00:08:25.660 It's their choice.

00:08:27.880 Well, this is a baby.

00:08:29.540 The baby doesn't have a choice.

00:08:32.860 And especially

00:08:33.820 in the world of socialized medicine,

00:08:37.300 nobody paid attention

00:08:38.620 to what was happening

00:08:40.480 in the British courts.

00:08:42.500 In the British courts in 2002

00:08:44.740 is where this started.

00:08:46.120 It was a landmark case.

00:08:48.480 There were two Siamese twins

00:08:50.380 and the Siamese twins,

00:08:54.560 the weaker of the twin girls

00:08:57.320 was Mary.

00:09:01.040 Her heart and lungs

00:09:02.440 were not fully developed

00:09:03.640 and she was robbing the strength

00:09:05.660 of the older one, Jody.

00:09:09.600 Had they remained conjoined,

00:09:11.800 the judges believed

00:09:16.000 that the best advice

00:09:19.180 from the doctors

00:09:19.960 is that they would both die.

00:09:22.760 The parents said,

00:09:24.480 no,

00:09:25.080 we don't want them split apart.

00:09:28.260 Her lungs,

00:09:29.080 we believe,

00:09:29.980 through faith

00:09:30.540 and through medicine

00:09:32.240 and through time,

00:09:33.620 we believe

00:09:34.360 her lungs will develop

00:09:36.080 and she will be stronger

00:09:37.480 for the surgery later.

00:09:38.700 The courts said,

00:09:40.780 no,

00:09:41.980 cut them apart.

00:09:44.100 They did.

00:09:45.760 As a result,

00:09:46.900 Mary died.

00:09:48.400 Jody lived.

00:09:51.220 Mom doesn't know best.

00:09:53.040 Father doesn't know best.

00:09:57.180 England insists

00:09:58.760 that the state knows best.

00:10:01.240 They know what's best

00:10:03.340 for other people's children

00:10:04.700 and they have the power

00:10:05.780 to act on it

00:10:06.780 even against

00:10:07.820 the parents' wishes.

00:10:10.260 So,

00:10:10.940 why is this happening?

00:10:13.000 Well,

00:10:13.220 this happens

00:10:13.840 over in socialized

00:10:15.040 medicine countries

00:10:16.240 quite a bit.

00:10:16.960 Doesn't happen so much here

00:10:18.280 because

00:10:19.700 we don't,

00:10:21.440 we have the power.

00:10:23.180 We still think

00:10:24.840 we have the power.

00:10:26.820 that power

00:10:28.800 is slipping

00:10:29.700 through our fingers

00:10:30.720 right now.

00:10:35.000 The accounts

00:10:36.060 of two-thirds

00:10:36.880 of the National

00:10:37.880 Institute of Health

00:10:39.180 over in the

00:10:40.160 National Health Services,

00:10:41.600 their socialized medicine,

00:10:43.960 two-thirds

00:10:44.840 of the providers

00:10:45.840 are in the red

00:10:47.540 in 2015

00:10:48.740 with a combined

00:10:50.220 deficit

00:10:50.700 of 2.5

00:10:52.460 billion euros

00:10:54.040 last year

00:10:55.300 alone.

00:10:56.820 The Prime Minister

00:10:58.620 is saying

00:10:59.580 we're going to give you

00:11:00.560 an extra

00:11:01.000 10 billion

00:11:01.900 for the NHS

00:11:03.760 by 2020.

00:11:05.880 So,

00:11:06.600 they're into rationing.

00:11:08.680 When you're into rationing,

00:11:10.640 we taught all of this

00:11:12.400 when I was at Fox

00:11:13.360 at the chalkboard,

00:11:14.600 when you ration,

00:11:16.220 you need death panels

00:11:17.620 to decide

00:11:18.520 who's going to get

00:11:19.800 the medicine,

00:11:21.060 who's not.

00:11:22.960 It's not some

00:11:24.100 evil dressed in black

00:11:25.860 like the Gestapo

00:11:26.900 death panel.

00:11:27.560 It's a group

00:11:29.020 of people

00:11:29.580 that care

00:11:30.460 about people

00:11:31.280 and they have

00:11:33.120 to weigh

00:11:33.700 the good

00:11:34.880 of the many

00:11:35.760 against the good

00:11:37.080 of the one.

00:11:39.380 Well,

00:11:40.260 that's not

00:11:41.540 how I view

00:11:42.260 my child.

00:11:43.020 But once

00:11:47.280 socialism runs

00:11:48.320 out of other

00:11:48.900 people's money,

00:11:50.380 then trouble

00:11:51.220 starts.

00:11:52.500 Because the NHS

00:11:53.500 is paying

00:11:55.160 for Charlie's,

00:11:56.560 he doesn't have

00:11:57.240 insurance,

00:11:58.120 he has government

00:11:58.800 insurance,

00:11:59.660 and because they are

00:12:00.640 paying for the

00:12:01.300 round-o-clock care,

00:12:03.040 the medical staff

00:12:04.460 believes that his

00:12:05.660 condition is

00:12:06.400 worsening.

00:12:06.840 the NHS

00:12:08.620 is the bank,

00:12:10.300 the hospital,

00:12:11.300 the parent,

00:12:12.640 and the court

00:12:13.420 of God.

00:12:16.260 So,

00:12:17.380 they believe,

00:12:19.160 governments

00:12:19.840 believe,

00:12:21.420 America didn't.

00:12:24.220 But we are

00:12:25.200 headed down this

00:12:25.860 road that the

00:12:27.220 government manages

00:12:28.380 health,

00:12:29.780 wealth,

00:12:30.860 education,

00:12:31.480 and everything

00:12:33.560 inside of our

00:12:34.740 home.

00:12:36.240 That they are

00:12:37.520 the arbiter.

00:12:38.560 They know

00:12:39.120 best.

00:12:42.180 There was a

00:12:43.040 court case here

00:12:43.620 in the United

00:12:43.960 States Supreme

00:12:44.640 Court,

00:12:45.520 Prince v.

00:12:46.240 Massachusetts,

00:12:46.940 1944.

00:12:49.040 The Supreme

00:12:50.020 Court held

00:12:50.700 that the

00:12:51.120 government has

00:12:51.860 quote,

00:12:52.600 broad authority

00:12:53.860 to regulate

00:12:54.980 the actions

00:12:56.160 and the

00:12:58.340 treatment of

00:12:59.420 children,

00:13:00.700 and that

00:13:01.020 parental

00:13:01.720 authority is

00:13:02.740 not absolute

00:13:04.040 and can be

00:13:05.640 restricted if

00:13:06.700 doing so is

00:13:07.540 in the interest

00:13:08.180 of a child's

00:13:09.040 welfare.

00:13:11.140 This will

00:13:12.580 come here.

00:13:20.920 You and I

00:13:22.040 have spent a

00:13:22.620 long time

00:13:23.400 worrying about

00:13:24.560 our country.

00:13:27.540 And I have

00:13:28.580 told you

00:13:29.240 that we

00:13:33.020 first had to

00:13:33.560 restore honor,

00:13:34.920 which meant

00:13:35.340 restore the

00:13:35.940 truth.

00:13:37.560 Know what

00:13:38.280 you believed

00:13:39.220 and then be a

00:13:40.780 person of

00:13:41.520 honor and

00:13:43.040 integrity.

00:13:45.460 Then we

00:13:46.200 restored courage

00:13:47.200 because there

00:13:48.140 was going to

00:13:48.420 come a time

00:13:49.140 when you

00:13:52.480 were going to

00:13:53.060 need to stand

00:13:54.180 to defend that

00:13:55.080 truth and it

00:13:55.720 would be really

00:13:56.600 unpopular

00:13:57.320 and that we

00:14:00.100 were headed

00:14:00.480 towards a

00:14:00.940 world where

00:14:01.600 the most

00:14:03.440 vulnerable,

00:14:05.340 be it

00:14:05.880 children,

00:14:08.100 the Jew,

00:14:10.700 or people

00:14:12.140 without any

00:14:13.340 kind of

00:14:13.800 political clout

00:14:14.820 or power,

00:14:16.380 were going to

00:14:17.400 come under

00:14:17.820 attack.

00:14:18.420 And we

00:14:21.760 needed to

00:14:22.280 stand even

00:14:24.200 when it

00:14:24.660 wasn't in

00:14:25.300 our own

00:14:25.720 best interest,

00:14:26.760 even when

00:14:27.480 it hurt,

00:14:28.520 even when

00:14:29.080 it was

00:14:29.340 people we

00:14:29.840 didn't want

00:14:30.560 to defend.

00:14:31.640 We had to

00:14:32.720 stand for

00:14:33.300 their constitutional

00:14:34.180 rights.

00:14:35.340 And the

00:14:35.940 last one

00:14:36.580 was restore

00:14:37.940 love.

00:14:39.960 Make sure

00:14:40.760 that your

00:14:41.120 heart doesn't

00:14:42.400 soften.

00:14:45.380 And to do

00:14:46.240 that, we

00:14:47.080 all went

00:14:47.420 to

00:14:47.580 Birmingham

00:14:48.000 and we

00:14:50.100 started to

00:14:50.620 fight for

00:14:51.040 the most

00:14:51.700 vulnerable,

00:14:53.080 the Christians

00:14:53.860 and their

00:14:54.920 children who

00:14:57.340 were enslaved

00:14:58.480 by ISIS.

00:15:01.140 This audience

00:15:02.140 has saved

00:15:02.840 20,000

00:15:05.180 people.

00:15:05.940 We have

00:15:06.160 moved.

00:15:07.440 7,000

00:15:08.620 people we

00:15:09.280 have moved

00:15:09.880 out of the

00:15:10.660 Middle East

00:15:11.240 when the rest

00:15:12.200 of the world

00:15:12.720 said they

00:15:13.580 can't figure

00:15:14.240 it out.

00:15:14.760 We did.

00:15:15.340 They can't

00:15:16.700 figure out

00:15:17.040 who the

00:15:17.300 good guys

00:15:17.700 and the

00:15:17.880 bad guys

00:15:18.300 are.

00:15:18.760 We have.

00:15:21.300 We can't

00:15:22.240 get involved.

00:15:23.200 We did.

00:15:24.620 We can't

00:15:25.320 save those

00:15:26.060 children from

00:15:27.200 their prison

00:15:29.100 rape rooms

00:15:30.420 where the

00:15:31.120 mothers are

00:15:31.940 being forced

00:15:33.120 to watch

00:15:33.640 their daughters

00:15:34.420 being raped

00:15:35.380 five and

00:15:36.360 six times a

00:15:37.280 day and the

00:15:37.840 daughters are

00:15:38.440 forced to

00:15:38.900 watch their

00:15:39.320 mothers being

00:15:40.000 raped.

00:15:40.340 The world

00:15:41.300 sat on their

00:15:42.320 hands and

00:15:43.100 did nothing.

00:15:43.920 Well, that's

00:15:45.220 too complex.

00:15:46.380 It's too

00:15:47.100 difficult.

00:15:47.840 It's too

00:15:48.300 dangerous.

00:15:49.720 This audience

00:15:50.800 knew every

00:15:51.940 single life

00:15:53.280 is worth

00:15:53.860 saving.

00:15:58.040 You don't

00:15:59.040 know Charlie.

00:16:00.620 You don't

00:16:01.720 know his

00:16:02.540 parents.

00:16:04.400 But the

00:16:05.460 more that I

00:16:06.140 read this

00:16:06.700 story and

00:16:07.960 the more I

00:16:08.520 hear about

00:16:09.320 their plight

00:16:10.520 and his

00:16:11.560 plight,

00:16:12.000 we are

00:16:13.340 all the

00:16:14.320 parents of

00:16:15.140 Charlie Gard.

00:16:19.720 We'll tell

00:16:20.300 you how you

00:16:20.780 can help

00:16:21.260 in just a

00:16:23.720 minute.

00:16:25.560 First, let me

00:16:26.120 tell you another

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00:16:27.020 tell you about

00:16:27.380 William.

00:16:28.860 William lives

00:16:29.520 here in

00:16:29.860 Texas and

00:16:32.540 he inherited

00:16:33.600 a home in

00:16:35.180 California and

00:16:36.360 being a good

00:16:36.900 Texan, he

00:16:37.460 didn't want to

00:16:37.760 go to

00:16:37.980 California.

00:16:39.340 I got to

00:16:39.640 get rid of

00:16:40.020 that thing in

00:16:40.540 California before

00:16:41.240 it kills me.

00:16:43.080 Imagine the

00:16:43.760 stress of

00:16:44.360 trying to

00:16:44.740 sell a

00:16:45.060 house, not

00:16:45.740 just out of

00:16:46.300 state, but

00:16:46.740 in California.

00:16:48.260 It's crazy.

00:16:50.440 Not for

00:16:50.940 William, because

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00:16:54.420 His agent,

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00:16:59.820 William ended

00:17:00.320 up getting

00:17:01.180 $30,000 more

00:17:02.880 than what he

00:17:03.460 was asking

00:17:04.080 for the home

00:17:05.560 in California.

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00:17:44.320 You're listening to

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00:17:54.520 Hello, America.

00:18:06.940 I'm just looking

00:18:07.600 through some history.

00:18:08.740 Matt Walsh, by the

00:18:09.300 way, is going to be

00:18:09.740 joining us here in

00:18:10.920 just a couple of

00:18:11.580 minutes.

00:18:12.000 He'll be able to

00:18:12.720 give you the whole

00:18:13.480 story on Charlie

00:18:14.300 Gard.

00:18:15.980 Charlie's parents are

00:18:16.900 saying now, and I

00:18:17.660 don't know if this is

00:18:18.340 true, and I hope it's

00:18:19.340 not, but Charlie

00:18:20.540 Gard's parents are

00:18:21.340 saying that Twitter is

00:18:23.440 editing their Twitter

00:18:25.220 feed and their

00:18:26.240 account.

00:18:27.420 I can't believe

00:18:28.440 that's true, but

00:18:30.180 they're trying to get

00:18:31.940 the word out all

00:18:33.300 around the world, and

00:18:35.440 they're asking for

00:18:37.520 your help.

00:18:38.320 So, please spread

00:18:41.180 this news.

00:18:42.100 He's only got about

00:18:42.940 a week before they

00:18:46.260 take him off.

00:18:47.140 Yeah, it's only the

00:18:47.720 Supreme Court.

00:18:48.100 They're waiting on the

00:18:48.740 Supreme Court decision

00:18:49.640 in Great Britain.

00:18:51.500 And it's going to

00:18:52.260 come back.

00:18:52.820 Yeah.

00:18:52.960 I mean, it's going

00:18:53.420 to come back.

00:18:54.300 Two courts have

00:18:55.140 already ruled against

00:18:55.900 him.

00:18:56.240 Yeah.

00:18:56.560 The interesting thing

00:18:57.580 is, they have said

00:18:58.700 they are in touch

00:18:59.360 with Trump and the

00:19:01.600 White House.

00:19:02.120 He's been great with

00:19:03.080 this.

00:19:03.420 Right.

00:19:03.820 And, you know, let

00:19:04.960 me tell you something.

00:19:05.740 If Trump really, if I

00:19:08.140 could give advice to

00:19:09.080 Donald Trump, this is

00:19:10.880 something that he

00:19:11.800 should own.

00:19:14.400 Yeah.

00:19:14.700 This is something

00:19:15.380 that he, and don't

00:19:16.440 make it about politics.

00:19:18.340 Don't make it about

00:19:19.200 politics.

00:19:19.880 Make it about this

00:19:20.880 child.

00:19:21.300 Do you know that

00:19:22.800 Russia has stopped

00:19:24.580 all adoptions into

00:19:28.300 Sweden and the

00:19:29.480 Netherlands?

00:19:30.400 Do you know this?

00:19:31.760 No.

00:19:32.480 This is how, this is

00:19:33.800 how, this is, remember

00:19:36.880 I said that Putin would

00:19:40.440 start to be the guy who

00:19:42.360 held the banner up for

00:19:43.860 the West and said, you

00:19:44.840 guys have gone insane and

00:19:46.140 reclaim your values with

00:19:47.620 me, they are killing

00:19:50.380 kids and we'll tell you

00:19:53.340 about it, how it's

00:19:54.160 happening, euthanizing

00:19:55.680 children.

00:19:56.800 And so they don't want

00:19:58.400 to do business with the

00:20:00.820 Netherlands because they

00:20:02.560 say life is sacred and

00:20:06.240 they are going to

00:20:07.520 exterminate children.

00:20:09.620 Matt Walsh, one of the

00:20:22.260 clearest thinkers available

00:20:25.360 today.

00:20:26.340 And that's saying

00:20:26.920 something because there

00:20:28.760 are not a lot of clear

00:20:29.940 thinkers out there.

00:20:31.660 They're hard to find.

00:20:33.740 Matt Walsh you'll find at

00:20:35.260 theblaze.com.

00:20:36.180 He's got a book out, the

00:20:37.160 unholy trinity, blocking

00:20:39.000 the left's assault on

00:20:40.260 life, marriage and

00:20:41.500 gender.

00:20:43.040 Make sure you pick it up

00:20:44.360 if you're a fan of Matt

00:20:45.800 Walsh.

00:20:46.940 Make sure you grab the

00:20:48.040 book and also you can

00:20:49.020 find him at theblaze.com.

00:20:50.780 Matt, welcome to the

00:20:52.020 program.

00:20:53.480 Hey Glenn, thanks for

00:20:54.260 having me.

00:20:54.680 So you were the one who

00:20:56.820 really has brought this

00:20:58.340 story to the tension of

00:21:00.100 America.

00:21:01.940 The Charlie Gard story,

00:21:03.340 this story of this 11

00:21:05.220 month old child who has

00:21:06.480 been fighting for his

00:21:07.460 life against the

00:21:09.920 socialized medicine

00:21:11.040 situation in England for

00:21:13.240 months.

00:21:15.900 I can tell you why

00:21:18.080 they're not covering it

00:21:19.020 here in America.

00:21:20.040 How are they covering it

00:21:21.380 over in England?

00:21:24.000 Well, over there, it's

00:21:25.400 been, as you said, for

00:21:26.860 months, it's been, it's

00:21:28.080 been, you know, the

00:21:29.240 story has been all over

00:21:30.280 the place and the parents

00:21:31.140 have been on all of

00:21:31.900 their, you know, kind of

00:21:33.020 primetime shows.

00:21:33.960 And it's been, it's

00:21:34.720 been, I guess, sort of

00:21:35.540 like what the Shivo case

00:21:36.560 was here in terms of

00:21:38.460 just the intensity of

00:21:39.660 coverage.

00:21:41.280 Are they, are they as

00:21:42.480 divided as we were with

00:21:44.420 Shivo?

00:21:46.120 Yeah, I think from, from

00:21:47.260 my reading of the

00:21:47.880 situation, they're, they're

00:21:48.900 just as divided and it's,

00:21:51.520 you know, kind of cuts

00:21:53.020 down the same lines and

00:21:54.100 you have, although I, I

00:21:55.440 think in Europe, we may

00:21:56.300 have fewer who are sort of

00:21:58.160 on the pro-life side than

00:21:59.120 you do here, although we

00:21:59.820 don't have that many here

00:22:00.600 anymore either, but.

00:22:02.220 I don't know if you

00:22:03.040 remember this, Matt, but

00:22:04.100 Pat, play the, the audio

00:22:05.920 clip.

00:22:06.320 This is from a few years

00:22:07.540 ago on like their

00:22:08.940 breakfast show on the

00:22:10.140 BBC.

00:22:10.860 This is a guest and

00:22:11.740 they're talking about

00:22:12.740 socialized medicine and,

00:22:15.640 and what to do with

00:22:17.620 undesirable children.

00:22:19.200 Listen to this.

00:22:19.500 This may strike your

00:22:20.160 listeners as way out, but

00:22:21.720 we actually.

00:22:22.640 True, no, and I think

00:22:23.660 that if I were a mother

00:22:25.280 of a suffering child, I

00:22:27.520 would be the first to

00:22:28.680 want, I mean, a deeply

00:22:29.840 suffering child, I would

00:22:30.920 be the first to want to

00:22:31.720 put a pillow over its

00:22:32.660 face.

00:22:32.780 Dr. Peter Evans is

00:22:33.840 from, you know, any

00:22:35.640 suffering thing.

00:22:36.600 And I think the

00:22:37.060 difference is that my

00:22:38.580 feeling of horror,

00:22:42.220 suffering, is much

00:22:43.720 greater than my feeling

00:22:45.800 of getting rid of a

00:22:47.580 couple of cells, because

00:22:48.580 suffering can go on for

00:22:49.860 years.

00:22:50.980 I'm sorry, I was just

00:22:51.740 about to introduce

00:22:52.280 another guest there, but

00:22:52.960 that was a, that's a

00:22:53.860 pretty horrifying thing

00:22:54.920 to say.

00:22:56.160 What?

00:22:56.260 That you would put the

00:22:56.920 pillow over a

00:22:57.700 suffering child.

00:22:58.120 Of course I would, if

00:22:59.160 it was a child I really

00:23:00.500 loved who was in agony.

00:23:02.320 I think any good

00:23:03.380 mother would.

00:23:04.680 Wow, wow.

00:23:06.780 Matt, where is this

00:23:07.660 coming from?

00:23:09.560 Yeah, that is, now that

00:23:10.960 you played that, I do

00:23:11.640 remember that, and that

00:23:12.360 is just the idea that

00:23:13.580 you're going to kill your

00:23:14.620 own child out of love.

00:23:15.920 This idea of killing

00:23:16.560 out of love is, it's

00:23:18.580 not any different than,

00:23:19.740 you hear these

00:23:20.300 horrifying cases of

00:23:21.260 mentally disturbed

00:23:21.920 mothers.

00:23:22.920 What about Andrea Yates

00:23:23.940 who drowned her five

00:23:24.720 kids in a bathtub and did

00:23:26.320 it because she loved them.

00:23:28.120 So, how is that any

00:23:29.020 different?

00:23:29.340 It's no different.

00:23:30.520 So, once you start

00:23:31.620 going down this train,

00:23:34.540 that's where it heads.

00:23:36.100 But this, where it

00:23:36.700 comes from is, you

00:23:37.920 know, we know all

00:23:38.840 across the West, there

00:23:39.740 is a, it's just a

00:23:41.100 fundamental inability

00:23:42.500 that some people have

00:23:43.500 to recognize that life

00:23:45.400 is sacred, to recognize

00:23:46.640 that life has inherent

00:23:48.160 value.

00:23:48.880 And so, they start

00:23:49.440 seeing, they see

00:23:50.600 someone, they say,

00:23:51.180 oh, they're suffering,

00:23:51.920 or they're disabled,

00:23:53.020 or they're poor, or

00:23:54.800 they've got these other

00:23:55.480 external factors that

00:23:56.580 make their life less

00:23:57.340 less desirable.

00:23:58.220 We might as well get

00:23:58.860 rid of them because

00:23:59.340 there's no reason to

00:24:00.480 keep them around.

00:24:01.560 So, there's this kind

00:24:02.220 of like utilitarian,

00:24:03.260 materialistic view of

00:24:04.160 life that as long as

00:24:05.460 it's useful, as long as

00:24:06.460 it's pleasurable, as long

00:24:07.300 as it's convenient to

00:24:08.080 those around it and to

00:24:08.920 itself, then we keep it

00:24:10.620 around.

00:24:10.860 But once that ends, then

00:24:12.020 we get rid of it.

00:24:12.680 And it's just a, it's a

00:24:14.340 horrifying, that's what

00:24:15.100 I tried to explain when I

00:24:15.900 wrote about it.

00:24:16.340 This is like, once you,

00:24:17.620 once you've put yourself

00:24:19.240 on that side of the

00:24:20.780 argument, you, and this

00:24:22.240 is not hyperbole, you

00:24:23.740 have put yourself on the

00:24:24.920 same side as all of the

00:24:26.800 worst people in the

00:24:27.940 history of the earth and

00:24:29.800 all of the worst

00:24:30.540 atrocities that have

00:24:31.420 ever been committed have

00:24:32.660 always been committed with

00:24:34.280 that kind of thinking.

00:24:35.560 So you, that's where you,

00:24:36.540 you place yourself on that

00:24:37.720 side and, uh, and good

00:24:39.320 luck to you in that case.

00:24:40.380 So, um, Matt, is there, do

00:24:43.540 you find any, um, uh, cause

00:24:47.480 of concern?

00:24:48.240 Have you, have you read what

00:24:49.780 the Pope actually said, not

00:24:52.820 just the release, but, um,

00:24:55.580 or the newspaper account from

00:24:57.480 it, but, but what he actually

00:24:59.760 the, the entire thing?

00:25:02.440 Yeah, well, this is the story

00:25:03.820 with the Vatican.

00:25:04.660 At first they, they, the, uh,

00:25:06.880 you know, the Vatican comes

00:25:07.780 out with a statement that all

00:25:09.400 but explicitly endorses, um,

00:25:12.200 the courts and the hospital

00:25:13.580 and takes their side in it,

00:25:15.160 which was, which was

00:25:16.000 horrifying.

00:25:16.660 I mean, I couldn't, as, as

00:25:18.240 cynical as I am, especially

00:25:19.380 about this Pope sometimes, I

00:25:21.020 couldn't even, I couldn't

00:25:21.780 believe that.

00:25:22.360 I couldn't believe that they

00:25:22.980 actually did that, you

00:25:24.180 know, because we need, we

00:25:25.600 need the, the, the Vatican

00:25:26.640 and the Catholic church to be

00:25:27.840 pro-life, to be, it's been

00:25:29.360 one of the only pro-life

00:25:30.300 institution left standing.

00:25:31.400 And the idea that that would

00:25:32.160 go away to me, especially

00:25:33.440 as a Catholic, I just

00:25:34.220 couldn't stomach.

00:25:35.000 But then the Pope comes out,

00:25:36.140 he sends out kind of a vague

00:25:37.120 tweet, and then he, and then

00:25:38.680 he comes out and, and he

00:25:39.720 says that we need to

00:25:40.680 support the, uh, the child

00:25:42.380 and the Vatican offers to,

00:25:44.420 you know, take the child

00:25:45.400 into the Vatican hospital,

00:25:46.440 which of course the other

00:25:47.620 possible declines that, but

00:25:49.340 it's the same story where

00:25:50.260 there's this kind of

00:25:50.880 conflicted messages and, uh,

00:25:53.220 obviously Pope Francis

00:25:54.040 doesn't have control of

00:25:54.980 what's going on over there.

00:25:56.160 But I still, to me, to me,

00:25:58.320 it's still not enough.

00:25:59.360 I, I need the Pope to come

00:26:01.340 out in, in stronger language

00:26:03.620 and actually, and I know he

00:26:05.680 doesn't like doing this kind

00:26:06.680 of the thing, but he needs

00:26:07.460 to, but there's no, there's

00:26:08.620 condemn, he, he condemns,

00:26:11.000 he condemns capitalism, he

00:26:13.100 condemns a lot of things, um,

00:26:15.500 but he did not condemn, um,

00:26:18.880 the snuffing out of this

00:26:21.460 child's life.

00:26:22.880 Um, and here's what he said,

00:26:25.000 the complexity of the

00:26:26.500 situation and the heart

00:26:28.260 rendering pain of the parents

00:26:29.800 and the efforts of so many to

00:26:31.240 determine what is best for

00:26:32.600 Charlie, we have to

00:26:34.120 acknowledge, we do sometimes

00:26:35.980 have to recognize the

00:26:37.780 limitations of what can be

00:26:39.400 done in modern medicine.

00:26:41.940 Well, um, where's the talk

00:26:45.380 about, you know, the sanctity

00:26:48.220 of all life?

00:26:49.580 Where is the talk about

00:26:50.800 miracles?

00:26:52.420 Where is the, I mean, I don't

00:26:53.840 understand this.

00:26:54.920 We would stop all cancer

00:26:57.560 treatment, uh, except for the,

00:27:00.680 the most benign of cancers.

00:27:03.160 It, we wouldn't be doing

00:27:05.180 experiments with people who

00:27:06.520 are in, in stage four cancer.

00:27:09.440 We would just say, you know

00:27:10.900 what, let's accept the, the

00:27:13.080 limits of modern medicine.

00:27:14.800 If we stop trying to save

00:27:19.020 lives, medicine stops moving

00:27:21.820 forward.

00:27:23.220 Doesn't it?

00:27:24.940 Yeah.

00:27:25.540 Well, it defeats the entire

00:27:26.920 purpose of, of medicine, but

00:27:28.280 that's the problem.

00:27:29.060 Once you've introduced, as we

00:27:32.020 have in the West, once you've

00:27:34.060 introduced abortion, and then

00:27:36.060 you introduce euthanasia, and

00:27:37.400 keep in mind that in Europe, in

00:27:39.000 some countries in Europe, that

00:27:40.580 you can get euthanasia, even if

00:27:42.440 you're not terminally ill, you can

00:27:43.860 get euthanasia.

00:27:45.060 Uh, they give euthanasia to

00:27:46.560 alcoholics, depressives, to

00:27:48.640 children.

00:27:49.600 So, they're just getting rid of

00:27:51.200 everybody on both ends of the

00:27:52.520 spectrum over there, and they've

00:27:54.380 completely perverted the, the

00:27:55.860 whole concept of medicine, which

00:27:57.360 is to always, you know, do no

00:27:58.800 harm, the Hippocratic Oath, to

00:28:00.180 always treat and heal and do what

00:28:02.120 you can.

00:28:03.060 And that's sort of the thing that

00:28:04.420 it's so, uh, horrifying that the

00:28:06.560 Vatican missed this aspect.

00:28:08.300 Not, not just, you know, it's bad

00:28:09.580 enough that they didn't say enough

00:28:10.620 on the Sanctuary of Life issue of

00:28:12.000 it, but this is, the fundamental

00:28:14.440 issue here is that the, the parents

00:28:16.000 have their own money, and they just

00:28:17.900 want to take, that was donated to

00:28:19.680 them, they just want to take the

00:28:20.820 kid, bring him to America, and just

00:28:22.880 try, try something, rather than just

00:28:25.480 letting him die.

00:28:26.320 I mean, of course, any parent would

00:28:27.640 want to do that, if they had the

00:28:28.820 means to do it.

00:28:29.820 So, this is just, it's just, uh,

00:28:33.240 Slate is, I'm speechless.

00:28:35.160 Slate is, um, has written an

00:28:37.380 article, the right is turning the

00:28:39.460 Charlie Gard tragedy into a case

00:28:41.420 against single-payer health care.

00:28:43.480 It's just the opposite.

00:28:45.480 That's their headline.

00:28:46.440 And, uh, first of all, is this not

00:28:51.160 a case against single-payer health

00:28:53.460 care?

00:28:54.040 Even though these, these parents

00:28:56.580 have the money, once you're trapped

00:28:59.580 into that system, that system must be

00:29:03.560 absolute.

00:29:04.420 You can't let people make their own

00:29:06.140 decisions, so it must be absolute.

00:29:08.580 Is that not the only reason why they're

00:29:12.460 not allowing this child to leave the

00:29:15.420 hospital, because the state must have

00:29:20.220 control and be able to say, I have the

00:29:23.680 control of God over life and death, and

00:29:27.200 what you do once you check into our

00:29:29.440 system.

00:29:29.940 It's Hotel California.

00:29:32.640 Yeah, this is all about, of course,

00:29:34.240 this is, well, that's Slate for you,

00:29:35.640 always missing the point, but that's,

00:29:37.240 of course, this is all about, it's about

00:29:39.200 single-payer health care, and it's about

00:29:40.320 safety of life.

00:29:40.960 Those are the two issues that this is

00:29:42.000 about, and about parental rights, too, so

00:29:43.720 those are the three, and it's all linked,

00:29:45.260 of course, but, and the issue is, who

00:29:47.800 should have the final say on these kinds

00:29:51.640 of medical decisions?

00:29:53.180 Should it be the patient and, or the

00:29:55.260 patient's caregiver, the parent, or should

00:29:57.980 it be the state?

00:29:59.300 That's the question.

00:30:00.300 When it comes down to it, who decides

00:30:02.380 what kind of treatment is given and which

00:30:04.720 lives are worth saving?

00:30:06.420 And in a single-payer health care system,

00:30:08.520 of course, we'll be given control over to

00:30:10.820 the government, so the government's going

00:30:12.000 to make those decisions, because it's all

00:30:13.800 about efficiency, and it's all about, well,

00:30:15.720 let's not waste our time or reap precious

00:30:17.980 resources on this life that's going to die

00:30:20.540 anyway, which is a really troubling way of

00:30:23.600 looking at it, because, hey, we're all

00:30:25.080 going to die anyway, and like you pointed

00:30:26.740 out, Glenn, with cancer, I mean, there are

00:30:29.620 many kinds of cancer that can be treated,

00:30:31.660 but it probably will shorten your lifespan,

00:30:33.580 even if you get past the first bout of it.

00:30:35.740 I mean, there are many diseases like that,

00:30:37.220 so once you start traveling down this road,

00:30:39.260 it goes to some really dark places, and

00:30:41.260 it's astounding to me that so many people

00:30:43.880 fail to see that, because it's so obvious

00:30:45.560 to me.

00:30:46.040 Matt Walsh, the author of the article that

00:30:48.740 I believe was the first article really to

00:30:52.160 bring this to light in America, the story

00:30:54.620 of Charlie Gard, Slate writes, and just

00:30:59.140 think about what you just said, Matt, Slate

00:31:02.300 writes, the right will raise the specter of

00:31:06.100 death panels, which you just said, who makes

00:31:09.480 the decision of who lives or dies, which is

00:31:11.620 exactly what's happening.

00:31:13.240 These outlets have turned one hard case

00:31:15.660 into a sweeping referendum on the inherent

00:31:18.120 justice and effectiveness of socialized

00:31:21.400 medicine.

00:31:22.060 It's as if the death of one child matters,

00:31:26.000 but the death of thousands is the cost of

00:31:29.300 reform, or as if intervening in one complex

00:31:33.120 and tragic case is heroic, but building a

00:31:35.920 system that would prevent the suffering of

00:31:37.900 many is more intolerable overreach.

00:31:41.780 How do you respond?

00:31:43.940 Well, that is, first of all, I don't want to

00:31:47.020 get too sidetracked, but this is not a hard

00:31:48.620 case.

00:31:49.400 This is not a hard case.

00:31:50.560 This is a very basic, no-brainer case that

00:31:53.940 the parents should be able to go and get

00:31:55.400 treatment for the child, period.

00:31:56.660 There's no other way of looking at it.

00:31:58.820 There's no other way to the sane person

00:32:00.180 when you look at it, but second, that's the

00:32:02.900 whole point.

00:32:03.360 This is what we're trying to avoid, this

00:32:04.720 idea of weighing the one against the many.

00:32:07.620 Healthcare, it's not supposed to be that

00:32:09.320 way.

00:32:09.620 We don't look at Charlie Gard and say, well,

00:32:12.100 let's weigh him against a thousand people.

00:32:14.200 He is one individual.

00:32:15.880 Every life is of infinite value, and that's

00:32:18.880 how those lives should be.

00:32:19.900 All of them should be treated when they're

00:32:21.420 in the hospital.

00:32:22.940 Certainly, parents should have the right to

00:32:25.140 treat their own children's lives that way,

00:32:27.280 and so we don't want to get into a

00:32:28.980 situation where the government is coming in

00:32:30.760 and sort of, they have their formulas and

00:32:32.960 their statistics, and they kind of have

00:32:35.220 everybody on a spreadsheet, and they decide,

00:32:37.720 well, let's emphasize this life over that

00:32:40.800 one.

00:32:41.320 We don't want to do that at all.

00:32:42.780 That's the whole point.

00:32:43.280 We're trying to avoid that, and so that's

00:32:45.740 why you allow individuals to make these

00:32:47.900 decisions, and you allow the free market to

00:32:50.340 reign so that we don't have these kinds of

00:32:54.580 weighing this against that, because it

00:32:56.660 shouldn't be.

00:32:57.480 There's no reason for it to be that way.

00:32:59.360 There's no reason why we should have to weigh

00:33:01.160 Charlie Gard's life against anything else,

00:33:04.200 because the parents have the money, and they

00:33:06.640 just want to get them treatment, and so they

00:33:08.080 should be able to do it.

00:33:08.980 That's it.

00:33:09.480 We don't need to look at anything else or any

00:33:11.300 other situations.

00:33:12.400 They should be able to do what they want to

00:33:14.440 do and have the resources and capability to do.

00:33:17.260 Matt, thank you very much.

00:33:18.380 You can follow Matt at The Blaze.

00:33:20.420 Also, follow him at Matt Walsh blog, and look for

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00:35:05.580 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:35:09.180 Mercury.

00:35:12.600 The Glenn Beck Program.

00:35:18.080 Charlie's Fight is the Twitter page.

00:35:21.600 Charlie's Fight for Twitter.

00:35:25.440 They had to put a new page together.

00:35:32.960 It was Fight for Charlie.

00:35:35.960 And this is according to the family.

00:35:39.060 Twitter is censoring our page.

00:35:41.700 And so Fight for Charlie account had 6,000 followers.

00:35:48.300 They had to start a new campaign and change for some reason

00:35:52.660 because of Twitter.

00:35:54.440 This is what they say.

00:35:55.720 I don't know.

00:35:56.720 They've accused Twitter of being disgraceful and anti-life.

00:35:59.580 You can now follow them at Charlie's Fight.

00:36:05.640 And they're asking.

00:36:06.720 This is the family.

00:36:08.220 Twitter is censoring this page.

00:36:09.920 Please head over to Charlie's Fight new page and get tweeting like crazy.

00:36:14.020 We need to spread the word.

00:36:15.320 We need your help.

00:36:16.240 Hashtag Charlie Guard and it's G-A-R-D.

00:36:20.200 No U.

00:36:20.780 Charlie Guard.

00:36:21.500 This is something that will determine who we become.

00:36:30.420 I started the hour by saying we have worried about our country for a long time.

00:36:34.900 I am more worried about losing our humanity than I am about losing our country.

00:36:40.900 We are on the verge of losing our humanity.

00:36:45.560 And that will guarantee that we lose the Western way of life.

00:36:49.900 I want to show you what some of the leaders are doing, what some people are doing,

00:36:54.780 some really inspirational things that people are doing all around the world

00:36:59.420 to help and help children like this.

00:37:03.100 And I'm going to take you down history when we come back.

00:37:07.120 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:37:10.960 Mercury.

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00:37:30.040 On Demand.

00:37:33.100 Hello, America.

00:37:34.660 Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:37:37.400 There is a story of Charlie Guard that you need to know about.

00:37:41.820 And we only have days to spread the word.

00:37:44.840 Charlie Guard is an 11-month-old baby in the United Kingdom that is being told by the courts

00:37:50.780 that they have to starve him to death and remove the ventilator.

00:37:56.760 The parents say, OK, but we've raised $1.7 million.

00:38:01.800 There is a doctor here in America that will treat our child, that gives our child a chance to live.

00:38:08.940 There are only 16 children that have ever had this disease.

00:38:12.280 Two of them are doing fine.

00:38:15.200 Two of them are living today.

00:38:17.080 One is in America and I think five years old now.

00:38:23.340 The other one is over 10 living in Italy and Boy Scouts and everything else.

00:38:28.820 What does a family do when the government, because they're socialized medicine and they deem that they now have control over your life,

00:38:40.960 won't let you take your child out of the hospital.

00:38:44.160 Instead, is giving your child a death sentence.

00:38:48.220 Where is this leading?

00:38:51.340 Well, you want to see the future?

00:38:52.980 First glance at the past.

00:38:55.040 We go there right now.

00:38:56.640 The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

00:39:19.280 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:39:22.740 Russia has banned any adoption going out to Belgium.

00:39:34.720 So if you're from Belgium, you are not allowed to adopt any Russian children.

00:39:41.640 And Russia says that they will not do any business with adoption in Belgium because they may be euthanized.

00:39:50.060 Now, listen to this.

00:39:51.660 This is from Russia.

00:39:53.960 Quote, it is high time that we not only make friends, but also appreciate the condition of the society we plan to contact with.

00:40:03.260 Therefore, we say that the society which officially favors murdering children is unhealthy.

00:40:11.580 Russia has decided to protect its citizens from euthanasia.

00:40:15.640 People will often adopt children with disabilities.

00:40:18.340 Russia has made a good decision to protect Russian children from being adopted by citizens of countries that allowed euthanasia of children.

00:40:28.640 What are they talking about?

00:40:31.420 What countries are allowing euthanasia of children?

00:40:36.540 Well, we now have the case of Charlie Gard, the 11-month-old who is not being allowed.

00:40:41.940 Even though the parents have the money, they have doctors and hospitals willing to treat here in the United States.

00:40:48.540 The English government, the death panels, make no mistake, these are death panels.

00:40:56.000 Yes, they're judges, but they are looking and saying, what is in the best interest of the child?

00:41:02.280 He's in pain, let him die.

00:41:06.940 And the parents can do nothing about it.

00:41:10.040 Is that the kind of medicine that we in the West feel is right and righteous and good?

00:41:16.160 No.

00:41:18.160 It's not like the parents don't have other options.

00:41:21.860 They do.

00:41:23.100 And they have resources to be able to pay for them.

00:41:26.580 Why would you stop this?

00:41:31.560 Because there is something else going on.

00:41:35.120 And it is socialized medicine.

00:41:37.660 Russia making that stance is Putin following Dugan's plan.

00:41:45.000 Dugan is one of the main advisors.

00:41:46.980 And he said, basically, become the vicar of Christ.

00:41:50.560 Become the true vicar of Christ.

00:41:52.580 Stand up for these principles and don't be ashamed of it.

00:41:56.340 Now, here's a guy who throws people off of tops of buildings and shoots them in elevators.

00:42:01.300 And he's standing up for life and traditional values.

00:42:05.620 Yes, because he's trying to pull people over to his side by being the only person that makes sense, even though he doesn't believe it.

00:42:15.100 When he said, we do not want to battle against Christianity.

00:42:18.540 On the contrary, we have to declare ourselves to be the only true Christians.

00:42:22.520 Christianity is the slogan under which we will eradicate the preachers.

00:42:27.160 Jeez.

00:42:27.960 Of course, I don't think that's Putin.

00:42:30.220 I think that's Hitler, isn't it?

00:42:31.500 That's, yeah, Hitler.

00:42:32.840 That was his quote.

00:42:34.180 Right.

00:42:34.420 He was doing it.

00:42:34.860 It's the same thing.

00:42:36.980 And yet everybody says that that was that he was doing things in the name of Christianity.

00:42:42.080 No.

00:42:42.420 He was a Christian.

00:42:43.040 The first thing he wanted to do.

00:42:44.560 He purported to be a Christian to endear himself to them at the very beginning.

00:42:47.980 Within six months, he said we had to eradicate the Old Testament from the Bible because it had Jews in it.

00:42:54.640 Yeah.

00:42:54.820 The Institute for the Study and Eradication of Jewish Influence on German Church Life, which aimed to say that Jesus was not Jewish.

00:43:05.240 And the Old Testament was garbage because it was written by Jews.

00:43:09.000 Okay.

00:43:09.400 He was Episcopalian, wasn't he?

00:43:10.600 Let's take this into modern day.

00:43:13.680 Can we look at what is happening in Belgium?

00:43:18.380 Why did Russia say this?

00:43:21.560 Belgium had its first case of child euthanasia in 2016.

00:43:27.020 But the Netherlands have allowed minors to request and receive euthanasia.

00:43:31.820 Dutch children down to the age of 16 can receive euthanasia without parents' consent.

00:43:37.860 Children can be killed by doctors with parental consent starting at the age of 12.

00:43:42.440 Belgium has no age limit.

00:43:48.740 And instead of requiring that a minor demonstrate a capacity to make decisions before receiving a suicide, they don't have to.

00:43:57.000 So a child cannot enter into legal contracts.

00:44:01.940 They can't even get a tattoo in Belgium.

00:44:05.100 But at any age, they can request doctor-assisted suicide.

00:44:11.340 This is where we're headed.

00:44:13.420 And receive it, too.

00:44:14.920 Not just request, but they...

00:44:16.160 They receive it.

00:44:16.840 Yeah.

00:44:17.300 Now, there are three things that they have to...

00:44:19.840 They have to meet these requirements.

00:44:23.580 The baby or the child has to have no chance of survival.

00:44:28.240 Well...

00:44:28.880 It's one of these.

00:44:29.820 You don't have to meet all three of these.

00:44:31.180 Just one.

00:44:31.660 My daughter, right now, is...

00:44:35.980 I'm waiting for her to come in to the office.

00:44:38.520 She's bringing something in from my home library that I need.

00:44:43.320 Talked to her about an hour ago on the phone.

00:44:46.320 And she said, okay, Dad, I know right where it is.

00:44:48.060 I'll bring it in.

00:44:48.660 By the way, she was...

00:44:49.960 I was told that she would never walk, talk, or feed herself.

00:44:54.400 But, you know, don't worry about it.

00:44:57.380 They were completely wrong.

00:45:00.080 So...

00:45:00.440 And they often are.

00:45:01.220 Yes, baby has no chance of survival.

00:45:03.980 Two, the baby may survive after a period of intensive treatment, but expectations for their future are very grim.

00:45:11.080 So, in other words, they don't have any real quality of life.

00:45:16.980 Three, the baby does not depend on technology for physiologic stability, but has suffering that is severe, sustained, and cannot be alleviated.

00:45:28.500 So, in other words, they don't need anything, but they're in pain.

00:45:33.860 You meet those three, or one of those three.

00:45:38.220 One of those three.

00:45:39.360 One of those three.

00:45:39.380 One of those three.

00:45:40.100 And that third one is...

00:45:40.980 And you can have the euthanasia.

00:45:42.560 Yeah.

00:45:42.940 And you can...

00:45:43.740 They will inject poison into the child.

00:45:46.100 But to be middle-aged in Asia, I think, they don't allow that for some reason.

00:45:53.860 No, no, it's not youth.

00:45:55.140 No.

00:45:55.740 No.

00:45:56.040 And the elderly in Asia, stop it.

00:45:57.700 All they care about is the euthanasia.

00:46:00.020 So, here's the thing.

00:46:02.040 You can now...

00:46:04.400 I mean, this is Peter Singer stuff.

00:46:06.700 Peter Singer is the chair of ethics at Princeton University.

00:46:11.180 And a despicable human being.

00:46:13.480 But I'm glad that he is teaching.

00:46:16.020 I'm just glad that he's balanced by somebody like Robbie George at Princeton University,

00:46:20.480 who is a total defender of life.

00:46:24.560 But Peter Singer is the guy who says,

00:46:28.620 you can kill a child, really, up until they realize that there's a tomorrow.

00:46:34.120 As soon as they realize there's a tomorrow, that's what makes them human.

00:46:36.880 Yeah, he didn't really even want to put an age on it.

00:46:38.720 Because that could happen up to four years old.

00:46:40.620 Right.

00:46:41.040 And as soon as you don't know there's a tomorrow, you stop being human.

00:46:44.120 So, you get, you know, you have Alzheimer's and you don't realize that tomorrow is coming,

00:46:50.960 we can kill you.

00:46:52.040 Because you're not a person.

00:46:53.520 You're not a person.

00:46:54.720 And a lot of people have bleak prognosis that turn out to be wrong.

00:46:58.980 We have a friend who's had stage four cancer.

00:47:02.400 16?

00:47:03.100 They told him when it finally got to that stage,

00:47:07.400 they said, you've got days or weeks, maybe months.

00:47:10.060 But they said nobody's lived past five years.

00:47:13.020 Yeah.

00:47:13.320 He's gone through 20 years now.

00:47:17.360 20?

00:47:17.900 Still alive.

00:47:18.580 He just had like his 76th round of chemo.

00:47:21.420 Yeah.

00:47:21.660 He's still alive.

00:47:22.980 It's crazy.

00:47:24.540 They don't know.

00:47:25.780 And this guy has accomplished in those 20 years more than I probably accomplished in my entire life.

00:47:31.000 Now, the reason why we're bringing this up is because this is what happens with socialized medicine.

00:47:36.760 You must devalue life because there's not enough money.

00:47:42.160 Slate magazine is making this thing with Charlie Gard into, so he's got 1.6 or 7 million dollars that the family raised for his health care.

00:47:53.100 That health care needs to go to somebody else.

00:47:55.640 That money should be used for the masses, not for him.

00:47:58.040 It's not about the individual.

00:48:00.040 This is the danger of a we society.

00:48:03.040 A me society, generally, because everybody's me, me, me.

00:48:09.180 They don't group together and say, we are going to kill these people because they're in our way.

00:48:15.740 Usually, me's are stopped.

00:48:20.680 But when you're in a we society, which we are now, and the whole Western world is in, when you're in a we society, the West goes nuts.

00:48:30.240 It's funny, I think people are getting caught up with the Charlie Gard thing on his chance of survival with this treatment.

00:48:38.220 And even the doctor who would give the treatment believes it might only help, might only be a short term, might help Charlie smile and hold on to things for a short time even.

00:48:48.400 It might not be the solution.

00:48:50.120 But take it out of that.

00:48:51.400 Remove the idea that Charlie could possibly be cured here.

00:48:55.220 Why on earth wouldn't the family be able to take the child home into a hospice situation and die at home?

00:49:03.520 I mean, that is something that happens all over the place, right?

00:49:05.880 Why would he not be able to be removed from the hospital under that care and have his pain alleviated and die with dignity at home?

00:49:14.700 I mean, you know, liberals love the fancy pet funerals where you like you have the you get to have your dog at home instead of at the cold hospital.

00:49:23.040 Well, I did that.

00:49:24.980 It's not just liberals.

00:49:26.320 But liberals love it.

00:49:27.920 You're being consistent.

00:49:29.640 They're not.

00:49:30.240 That's my point.

00:49:31.140 And it's a situation where even if there was a 0% chance of survival, 0, dead 0, why wouldn't they allow this child to be removed from the hospital anyway?

00:49:43.320 And the answer is, under this system, implicit in this system, is that you have allowed the state to make that decision.

00:49:51.760 It is not your child.

00:49:53.200 It is theirs.

00:49:54.000 So now listen to this.

00:49:55.200 It is really extraordinary that people refuse to apply to human beings such elementary knowledge as every successful farmer is obliged to supply to his own stock breeding.

00:50:07.540 Any group of farmers who permitted their best stock not to breed and let all the increase come from the worst stock would be treated as fit inmates for an asylum.

00:50:18.400 Yet we fail to understand that such content conduct is rational compared to the conduct of a nation that permits unlimited breeding from the worst stocks physically and morally.

00:50:29.100 While it encourages or connives at the cold selfishness or the twisted sentimentality as a result of which men and women ought to marry and, if married, have large families, remain celibate or have no children or only one or two.

00:50:44.820 Someday, we will realize that the prime duty and inescapable duty of the good citizen of the right type is to leave his blood behind in the world so that we have no business to perpetuate the citizens of the wrong type.

00:51:04.760 Who wrote that?

00:51:07.560 Take a guess.

00:51:10.220 Do you know, Stu?

00:51:11.820 I think I heard you talking about it earlier.

00:51:13.860 Theodore Roosevelt.

00:51:16.640 This is the progressive mindset.

00:51:20.960 That's a guy who a lot of Republicans say was their favorite president.

00:51:25.380 And he was the first to suggest socialized medicine.

00:51:31.320 Listen to this.

00:51:33.360 You will be interested to know that your work has played a powerful part in shaping the opinions of a group of intellectuals

00:51:40.980 who are behind Hitler in this epic making program.

00:51:43.760 Everywhere, I sense that their opinions have been tremendously stimulated by American thought and particularly by the work of the Human Betterment Foundation.

00:51:54.260 I want you, my dear friend, to carry with you this thought for the rest of your life, that you have really jolted into action a great government of 60 million people.

00:52:07.240 This is from the Human Betterment Foundation, a non-profit corporation in Pasadena, California.

00:52:16.120 It's date is 1935.

00:52:19.880 You have the real document right there.

00:52:21.140 Yes, this is the real document.

00:52:22.660 And they worked with the doctors of eugenics in Sweden, in Germany, in New York, in Ohio.

00:52:40.240 I told you this yesterday, that it's this utopian view that life isn't worth living unless you have the perfect life.

00:52:55.680 And some lives, there's just too much suffering.

00:53:00.260 But once you start going down that road, where do you stop?

00:53:04.660 Yesterday, on the air, I told you the story about baby Naur.

00:53:09.800 Baby Naur was the first baby, patient zero, of the Holocaust.

00:53:17.240 The baby's father had written to Hitler in 1939 asking for permission to kill his blind and deformed son.

00:53:26.920 The doctor said the father of a deformed child wrote to the Fuhrer with a request to be allowed to take the life of this child or this creature.

00:53:33.740 Hitler ordered me to take care of this case.

00:53:36.780 The child had been born blind, seemed to be idiotic, and a leg and parts of an arm were missing.

00:53:46.260 So what happened?

00:53:48.380 We know they killed baby Naur.

00:53:51.540 But how did they kill them?

00:53:53.420 And what has just been confirmed now through research that happened after baby Naur?

00:54:02.060 A child that had no chance at a future, was in pain, wouldn't have a life that was worth living.

00:54:13.860 What happened?

00:54:15.620 We'll share that next with the actual documents when we come back.

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00:56:32.800 So, five-month-old boy, Baby Nauer, was the first Nazi euthanasia victim.

00:56:46.160 Adolf Hitler was convinced, out of compassion, to put this poor little boy that was blind,

00:56:55.860 missing a part of an arm and a leg, to sleep.

00:57:00.680 Because he had no quality of life.

00:57:06.240 This, up until 2003, Baby Nauer was not known.

00:57:12.880 They did not know who this baby was.

00:57:14.980 It was just referred to as Case K.

00:57:16.920 And all of the doctors involved, everybody changed their name.

00:57:22.740 And after years and years and years of researching,

00:57:29.080 they finally know exactly what happened to Case K.

00:57:36.460 What we now know as Baby Nauer.

00:57:40.640 Spelled with a K.

00:57:43.300 We have the evidence next.

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00:57:57.940 Who are we as a people?

00:58:00.280 We must fix reason firmly in her seat and question with boldness.

00:58:06.840 Who are we as a people?

00:58:08.820 And sometimes those decisions are really hard and painful.

00:58:15.980 And it's easier to look the other way.

00:58:19.720 Because sometimes the wrong choice is cloaked as compassion and care.

00:58:28.100 There is a baby, 11-month-old Charlie Gard.

00:58:37.820 Please tweet your friends about it.

00:58:39.660 We'll have all the information in the stories at glenbeck.com and The Blaze.

00:58:44.220 But he has days to live.

00:58:46.460 They're waiting for another court, their Supreme Court, to rule

00:58:50.140 on whether or not the life support should be pulled from this baby.

00:58:55.340 Rare disease, no quality of life, going to be in pain.

00:59:01.040 The parents have the money, want to pull the child out of the hospital in London,

00:59:06.200 bring him to America where there's a hospital.

00:59:08.220 One hospital said we'll treat him for free.

00:59:10.060 Another hospital said we'll treat him.

00:59:12.060 They have $1.7 million that they've raised.

00:59:15.040 We'll treat him.

00:59:15.900 We have one of the best doctors in the world for this particular disease.

00:59:18.760 Don't know how it's going to work out, but let's give it a try.

00:59:23.140 England, the National Health Institute, says no.

00:59:29.220 The child has to have its life support pulled and die with dignity.

00:59:33.740 This is really interesting because mercy killings

00:59:37.260 started by putting children to sleep in Germany.

00:59:42.260 I told you yesterday about baby Naur, a baby that was born without part of one leg,

00:59:47.160 part of one arm, and was blind.

00:59:52.960 And the father and mother just didn't know what to do.

00:59:56.020 It would be a burden on the family and a burden on society.

00:59:59.420 Probably become one of those useless eaters.

01:00:02.540 They wrote to Hitler.

01:00:03.680 Hitler sent his doctors out.

01:00:05.160 And they euthanized the boy.

01:00:08.060 Put him to sleep.

01:00:09.780 Because he didn't have any quality of life.

01:00:16.600 He didn't have a future.

01:00:22.560 As soon as baby Naur, which was known as Case K up until 2003,

01:00:30.120 nobody could trace everything back.

01:00:33.000 But they have spent decades, decades looking for who was the first victim of the Holocaust.

01:00:41.440 In 2003, it was directly connected to baby Naur, which was a very public event.

01:00:48.300 1939.

01:00:52.300 As soon as baby Naur was killed,

01:00:57.240 Hitler came and decreed that we needed to have, quote,

01:01:05.380 mercy killings of 300,000 mentally and physically handicapped people.

01:01:14.400 The children were forcibly taken from their parents to be killed.

01:01:20.220 They were first institutionalized in the hospital.

01:01:23.160 And then something would go wrong.

01:01:27.080 Most of the parents got a fake notice that something had happened

01:01:33.000 while they were systematically killing all of these children.

01:01:37.720 Because even the Germans back then would have been horrified to know

01:01:43.040 that their government was killing the handicapped

01:01:47.280 or children who didn't have any quality of life.

01:01:50.980 Even the Germans in 1939 would have known that was wrong.

01:01:58.840 And so they kept it secret.

01:02:01.600 And all of the doctors that signed the death certificates changed their names.

01:02:05.700 No one wanted this to be known.

01:02:12.240 275,000 victims later,

01:02:16.860 the Holocaust was moving in full gear.

01:02:22.200 There were six hospitals that were devoted to processing cases.

01:02:28.040 Processing meant that they would be killed.

01:02:32.440 Poland, in the Czech Republic,

01:02:36.980 children and adults were drugged, gassed, or starved to death.

01:02:41.760 The UK is starving this child to death.

01:02:47.580 The guy who was in charge of a lot of this

01:02:51.080 at the Children's Hospital,

01:02:53.620 the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute,

01:02:56.560 was Dr. Mengele,

01:02:58.500 who went on to do some other things with children

01:03:01.880 that we all know.

01:03:03.960 This, I had to take,

01:03:05.260 I don't have the original,

01:03:06.460 it's locked up in a safe,

01:03:08.060 off-premises,

01:03:09.460 so I don't have the original,

01:03:10.520 and I thought we did.

01:03:12.680 This is part of the Mercury One collection.

01:03:17.660 This is the last prescription

01:03:20.820 written by Mengele

01:03:23.320 at the Children's Hospital.

01:03:24.760 It's significant

01:03:26.820 because he is ordering for the hospital

01:03:29.240 a large quantity of luminol.

01:03:33.680 We now know in 2003

01:03:35.740 that luminol was the way

01:03:37.740 they were killing all of the children.

01:03:40.020 It would put them to sleep,

01:03:41.700 and within five days,

01:03:42.980 they'd be dead.

01:03:45.340 This is Mengele's actual prescription

01:03:48.760 to help those children

01:03:52.640 die with dignity.

01:03:57.520 This is what's happening.

01:04:00.300 Now, you want to die with dignity?

01:04:01.820 We follow the course of a man

01:04:04.340 in Los Angeles

01:04:07.400 who is adopting those children

01:04:11.340 who nobody wants to adopt

01:04:13.440 because they're all dying,

01:04:16.640 and they're in foster care,

01:04:18.760 and he will only adopt

01:04:21.200 children who are dying

01:04:22.560 so they can die with dignity.

01:04:25.520 He brings them into the family.

01:04:28.580 How about this one?

01:04:30.560 Elderly woman in China

01:04:31.940 rescues 30 abandoned babies

01:04:34.140 from the trash,

01:04:35.420 gives them all a chance at life.

01:04:38.380 She saved the lives

01:04:39.160 of 30 abandoned babies

01:04:40.260 since 1972.

01:04:43.060 She's 88 years old now.

01:04:45.180 Now, in China,

01:04:48.420 we don't understand this,

01:04:49.780 but remember yesterday,

01:04:50.720 I was talking about

01:04:51.340 the difference of being

01:04:52.180 people from ancient Israel

01:04:54.940 and being people of Rome.

01:04:57.600 Christians of ancient Israel

01:04:59.800 know that they serve God,

01:05:01.300 and it gives them humility.

01:05:03.880 They know that God decides

01:05:05.660 who wins,

01:05:06.920 not man.

01:05:08.560 Man does his best effort

01:05:10.120 to serve God.

01:05:11.120 Rome is all about man

01:05:15.240 and winning

01:05:16.640 and conquering.

01:05:20.140 Rome,

01:05:20.940 it was because of the Christians

01:05:23.040 that this practice stopped.

01:05:25.760 But in ancient Rome,

01:05:27.060 they had garbage barges,

01:05:29.160 and people would take their filth

01:05:30.860 and throw it out into the river

01:05:32.740 on these garbage barges.

01:05:34.140 And the garbage barges

01:05:36.040 at the time

01:05:37.100 moved.

01:05:38.740 I don't mean float,

01:05:39.860 floated.

01:05:40.440 I mean

01:05:40.840 writhed.

01:05:43.320 Because people would go

01:05:45.360 to the garbage barge

01:05:46.580 and throw their unwanted babies

01:05:48.760 onto the garbage barge.

01:05:51.180 And nobody cared.

01:05:54.100 It was the Western idea

01:05:56.780 of Jesus

01:05:57.880 that saved those children.

01:06:00.980 We were built

01:06:04.440 on a different ethic.

01:06:09.160 The guy who has a child

01:06:11.680 like Charlie

01:06:12.800 here in America,

01:06:14.900 in fact,

01:06:15.520 is the one who reached out

01:06:17.180 overseas

01:06:18.280 to the UK

01:06:19.340 to Charlie's parents

01:06:20.540 and said,

01:06:21.200 there's a doctor

01:06:21.960 you guys have to meet.

01:06:24.180 But now the British government

01:06:25.480 won't let them come

01:06:26.580 to America

01:06:27.200 for this treatment.

01:06:28.140 His child

01:06:30.940 was treated

01:06:31.460 here in America.

01:06:32.500 Same disease.

01:06:36.440 His boy

01:06:37.220 is now six years old.

01:06:39.560 He says

01:06:40.300 he's a strong

01:06:41.100 and happy boy.

01:06:42.640 The doctor

01:06:43.660 said he only had

01:06:44.460 two months to live.

01:06:46.160 He's six now.

01:06:48.500 He said,

01:06:49.200 I feel very fortunate

01:06:50.380 to be an American

01:06:51.440 and not British.

01:06:52.660 If I lived

01:06:53.620 in the UK,

01:06:54.820 my son

01:06:55.580 would be dead

01:06:56.760 today.

01:06:58.140 And let me give you

01:07:00.880 one other story

01:07:02.740 about a woman

01:07:07.260 who refused

01:07:08.240 to give up

01:07:08.760 her disabled son.

01:07:11.540 She,

01:07:12.340 and he,

01:07:13.440 she gave birth

01:07:14.200 to her son

01:07:15.080 in China.

01:07:17.280 In China,

01:07:18.560 the doctors

01:07:19.160 told

01:07:20.100 that his life

01:07:21.340 was not worth saving

01:07:22.440 because he had

01:07:26.040 a birth complication

01:07:27.280 and nearly suffocated.

01:07:29.480 It left him

01:07:30.060 with cerebral palsy.

01:07:32.540 And the doctor

01:07:33.360 said he doesn't

01:07:34.600 have a life.

01:07:35.440 He's going to have,

01:07:36.380 he's going to be disabled.

01:07:37.360 He's going to have

01:07:37.760 very low intelligence.

01:07:39.520 Mom

01:07:39.920 disagreed

01:07:40.840 with the doctors.

01:07:41.740 Dad

01:07:42.060 agreed with the doctors.

01:07:44.120 Kill him.

01:07:44.720 He's going to be

01:07:45.100 a burden

01:07:45.520 on the family

01:07:46.220 forever.

01:07:47.240 You imagine

01:07:47.620 saying that?

01:07:48.280 Mom said

01:07:51.520 no.

01:07:52.240 Got a divorce.

01:07:53.020 Got her son

01:07:53.560 from the Chinese

01:07:54.560 hospital.

01:07:55.180 She spent

01:07:58.900 her entire

01:07:59.400 life

01:07:59.900 working

01:08:00.840 with him.

01:08:02.420 In her

01:08:02.720 spare time,

01:08:04.160 she took him

01:08:04.700 to rehabilitation

01:08:05.640 sessions.

01:08:07.340 She taught

01:08:07.860 herself how

01:08:08.340 to massage

01:08:08.960 his stiff

01:08:09.440 muscles.

01:08:10.400 She'd play

01:08:10.800 educational games

01:08:11.800 with him.

01:08:13.520 She insisted

01:08:14.320 from the start

01:08:15.220 that he would

01:08:16.200 learn and he

01:08:17.060 would overcome

01:08:17.700 his disabilities.

01:08:18.860 Well,

01:08:19.240 she worked

01:08:20.360 so hard,

01:08:21.460 she insisted

01:08:22.060 she teaching him

01:08:22.900 how to use

01:08:23.380 chopsticks

01:08:23.940 during mealtimes

01:08:25.160 even though

01:08:26.360 he found

01:08:26.780 it extraordinarily

01:08:27.580 difficult

01:08:28.220 because of

01:08:28.820 his cerebral

01:08:29.300 palsy.

01:08:30.780 She said,

01:08:31.200 I didn't want

01:08:31.560 him to feel

01:08:32.000 ashamed about

01:08:32.640 his physical

01:08:33.120 problems.

01:08:34.340 I didn't want

01:08:35.060 him to think

01:08:35.420 that he had

01:08:35.800 inferior abilities

01:08:37.040 which he did

01:08:38.140 in many areas

01:08:39.180 but I was quite

01:08:40.620 strict on him

01:08:41.540 to work hard

01:08:42.240 and to catch up

01:08:42.900 where he had

01:08:43.340 difficulties.

01:08:46.220 He graduated

01:08:47.220 with a degree

01:08:47.960 in environmental

01:08:48.640 science from

01:08:49.540 Peking University

01:08:50.640 in 2011.

01:08:53.380 Oh,

01:08:53.860 he's now

01:08:54.260 working on

01:08:54.800 his doctorate

01:08:56.320 while attending

01:08:59.480 Harvard Law

01:09:00.440 School.

01:09:02.720 But remember,

01:09:04.180 doctor said

01:09:05.900 he didn't

01:09:07.180 have a life

01:09:08.200 worth living.

01:09:10.280 Somebody else,

01:09:11.960 Stephen Hawking,

01:09:12.940 only had two

01:09:14.540 years to live.

01:09:16.720 Look at the

01:09:17.360 difference he

01:09:17.820 made.

01:09:19.640 FDR,

01:09:21.360 polio,

01:09:22.600 paralyzed from

01:09:23.260 the waist

01:09:23.640 down.

01:09:25.040 Ralph Braun,

01:09:26.220 guy you've

01:09:26.780 not heard

01:09:27.420 of.

01:09:28.480 You should.

01:09:30.240 He is a

01:09:30.900 guy who was

01:09:31.540 born with

01:09:32.080 muscular dystrophy.

01:09:34.060 He started

01:09:34.560 his career in

01:09:35.200 1966 because

01:09:36.500 he is the

01:09:37.580 inventor of

01:09:38.300 the wheelchair

01:09:38.840 accessible van.

01:09:40.220 How about

01:09:42.780 Marlee

01:09:43.100 Matlin?

01:09:45.400 Is her

01:09:45.760 wife,

01:09:46.400 Stevie Wonder,

01:09:47.440 was his

01:09:47.920 life worth

01:09:48.560 living?

01:09:51.620 Did you

01:09:52.240 know that

01:09:52.560 Frida was

01:09:53.180 in a

01:09:53.580 wheelchair,

01:09:54.040 the artist

01:09:54.460 Frida was

01:09:55.280 in a

01:09:55.460 wheelchair?

01:09:59.780 Helen Keller,

01:10:00.900 my daughter.

01:10:08.760 And the

01:10:09.400 millions like

01:10:10.140 her all

01:10:10.620 around the

01:10:10.980 world,

01:10:12.280 who most

01:10:15.840 people in

01:10:16.280 the world

01:10:16.640 will not

01:10:18.220 know her

01:10:18.580 name.

01:10:19.920 She hasn't

01:10:20.520 done anything

01:10:21.000 famous,

01:10:22.280 but she has

01:10:23.400 changed my

01:10:23.980 life.

01:10:25.500 She has

01:10:26.240 changed the

01:10:26.720 life of her

01:10:27.200 family.

01:10:27.600 she has

01:10:30.400 changed the

01:10:30.940 life of

01:10:31.480 others who

01:10:32.060 know her.

01:10:42.440 Who are

01:10:43.200 you to

01:10:43.600 judge who

01:10:44.920 has a

01:10:45.420 life worth

01:10:46.000 living?

01:10:49.820 What is

01:10:50.700 it with

01:10:51.040 this society

01:10:51.760 that we

01:10:53.260 think that

01:10:55.700 it's

01:10:56.000 compassionate

01:10:56.800 to take

01:10:58.160 away all

01:10:58.860 consequences

01:10:59.760 or all

01:11:01.420 pain?

01:11:06.160 Pain is

01:11:07.240 a basic

01:11:07.920 part of

01:11:08.940 life.

01:11:10.640 It teaches

01:11:11.140 us the

01:11:11.640 stove is

01:11:12.320 hot.

01:11:13.880 Don't put

01:11:14.600 your hand

01:11:15.400 on the

01:11:16.280 hot stove.

01:11:19.080 People who

01:11:20.320 have a

01:11:20.700 condition of

01:11:21.520 they can't

01:11:23.520 feel pain

01:11:24.540 have to

01:11:27.200 walk around

01:11:27.980 almost as

01:11:30.240 if they're

01:11:30.760 in a

01:11:31.100 bubble.

01:11:38.380 The pain

01:11:39.660 that parents

01:11:41.540 feel with

01:11:44.020 a differently

01:11:44.780 abled child

01:11:45.840 is extreme

01:11:48.540 at times,

01:11:49.740 but it

01:11:51.720 is glorious

01:11:53.480 most of

01:11:55.400 the time.

01:12:02.580 We have

01:12:03.480 to decide

01:12:04.020 who we

01:12:04.500 are because

01:12:06.560 we're not

01:12:07.200 in danger

01:12:07.840 of losing

01:12:08.560 just our

01:12:09.640 country or

01:12:11.560 our good

01:12:11.980 doctors or

01:12:14.640 even the

01:12:15.060 western way

01:12:15.620 of life.

01:12:16.060 we are

01:12:17.820 losing our

01:12:18.420 humanity

01:12:19.180 and rushing

01:12:21.480 towards the

01:12:23.160 garbage

01:12:23.900 barges of

01:12:24.840 Rome of

01:12:26.480 days gone

01:12:27.180 by.

01:12:29.900 My Patriot

01:12:31.000 Supply is our

01:12:31.580 sponsor this

01:12:32.160 half hour.

01:12:33.660 You guys see

01:12:34.440 the emergency

01:12:34.900 session at the

01:12:35.660 UN yesterday?

01:12:38.900 Nikki Haley

01:12:39.900 called North

01:12:40.460 Korea, their

01:12:41.240 launch, a

01:12:41.740 clear and

01:12:42.300 sharp military

01:12:43.300 escalation.

01:12:45.380 U.S.

01:12:45.840 military action

01:12:46.560 remains on

01:12:47.140 the table.

01:12:48.640 Boy, does

01:12:49.020 our president

01:12:49.500 need prayers

01:12:50.580 this week

01:12:52.560 while he's

01:12:52.960 meeting with

01:12:53.380 Russia and

01:12:54.040 everybody else

01:12:55.600 in the G20.

01:12:57.180 This is a

01:12:58.380 serious, serious

01:13:00.100 situation.

01:13:02.720 Emergency

01:13:03.040 food is

01:13:04.420 all about

01:13:05.740 self-reliance.

01:13:06.960 It takes

01:13:07.640 your hope

01:13:08.400 that we'll

01:13:08.840 survive and

01:13:09.640 turns it into

01:13:10.300 confidence.

01:13:10.980 I know

01:13:11.700 my family's

01:13:12.740 going to be

01:13:13.000 fine.

01:13:13.800 There is

01:13:14.160 so much

01:13:14.620 peace in

01:13:15.280 that

01:13:15.480 knowledge.

01:13:17.420 Now they

01:13:17.800 have their

01:13:18.060 new survival

01:13:18.720 food supply

01:13:19.660 which includes

01:13:20.660 102 adult

01:13:22.040 servings of

01:13:22.680 breakfast,

01:13:23.180 lunches and

01:13:23.620 dinner for

01:13:24.080 only $99.

01:13:25.580 The world

01:13:26.180 is changing

01:13:26.740 so rapidly

01:13:27.620 and we are

01:13:29.360 not out of

01:13:30.100 the woods.

01:13:31.000 Please,

01:13:31.860 please,

01:13:32.560 we are headed

01:13:33.320 towards the

01:13:33.880 darkest parts

01:13:34.580 of the woods.

01:13:36.220 Call 1-800-200-7163,

01:13:38.980 800-200-7163,

01:13:41.080 or go to

01:13:41.560 preparewithglenn.com.

01:13:43.220 That's

01:13:43.520 preparewithglenn.com.

01:13:46.840 This is

01:13:47.760 the Glenn

01:13:49.640 Beck Program.

01:13:52.260 Mercury.

01:13:55.920 Ben Shapiro

01:13:56.780 is in the house.

01:13:57.480 He'll be joining

01:13:57.900 us here in just

01:13:58.580 a second.

01:13:59.300 An interesting

01:13:59.640 thing about

01:13:59.960 that Baby

01:14:00.300 Nower story

01:14:00.900 is when the

01:14:01.800 parents requested

01:14:02.660 the baby to be

01:14:03.480 euthanized,

01:14:04.580 the Hitler regime

01:14:05.600 went to the

01:14:06.320 parents and said,

01:14:07.660 it can be done,

01:14:09.120 however,

01:14:09.420 it's not you

01:14:10.220 requesting it,

01:14:11.160 it is I,

01:14:11.980 the Fuhrer,

01:14:12.940 because we will

01:14:13.580 take that burden

01:14:14.320 away from you.

01:14:14.900 We don't want you

01:14:15.260 to wake up in 10

01:14:15.900 years and think,

01:14:16.540 did I do something

01:14:17.100 wrong to my child?

01:14:17.980 I will do it.

01:14:18.980 I am the only one

01:14:19.720 who can make

01:14:20.280 that decision.

01:14:22.120 So cloaked in

01:14:23.240 compassion,

01:14:23.960 taking full control

01:14:25.320 of everyone's

01:14:26.420 medical choices.

01:14:28.720 It was a nice thing.

01:14:29.340 In one nice,

01:14:31.380 compassionate move.

01:14:33.620 How it starts.

01:14:34.400 Fight for Charlie

01:14:35.420 Guard.

01:14:35.800 Hashtag Charlie

01:14:38.820 Guard.

01:14:39.420 Know you in

01:14:40.100 Guard.

01:14:43.960 Glenn Beck.

01:14:46.920 Mercury.

01:15:01.480 The Blaze Radio Network.

01:15:05.800 On Demand.

01:15:09.020 There will be a few

01:15:10.680 real intellectual

01:15:11.840 leaders that will

01:15:13.660 gather Americans

01:15:16.740 around the tentpole

01:15:18.400 of right and wrong,

01:15:20.640 good and evil,

01:15:22.300 and the Constitution

01:15:23.300 again.

01:15:24.500 And one of those

01:15:25.460 leaders happens to be

01:15:26.780 in our studio now.

01:15:28.040 His name is Ben Shapiro

01:15:29.420 from the Daily Wire.

01:15:31.380 Really, really smart,

01:15:33.400 very, very brave,

01:15:35.400 and we're going to

01:15:37.620 tackle, we're going to

01:15:38.680 solve all of the

01:15:39.480 world's problems in

01:15:41.220 the next about

01:15:43.200 54 minutes.

01:15:45.500 It's going to be a

01:15:46.080 rocking hour.

01:15:46.980 Here we go.

01:15:47.700 It begins right now.

01:15:48.620 I will make a stand.

01:15:52.340 I will raise my voice.

01:15:54.500 I will hold your hand.

01:15:56.880 Because we are one.

01:15:58.720 I will be my drum.

01:16:00.980 I have made my choice.

01:16:03.220 We will overcome.

01:16:05.540 Because we are one.

01:16:07.460 The fusion of

01:16:08.680 entertainment and

01:16:10.000 enlightenment.

01:16:11.400 This is the Glenn

01:16:12.920 Beck Program.

01:16:14.980 Ben Shapiro,

01:16:17.920 good to have you on

01:16:18.500 the program.

01:16:19.040 It's an honor, of

01:16:19.720 course.

01:16:20.220 Good to have you here.

01:16:22.320 So, I just want to

01:16:25.520 run down just a few

01:16:27.340 of the things that

01:16:28.040 are going on in the

01:16:28.880 world and just get

01:16:29.840 your take on where

01:16:31.300 we are, what we're

01:16:32.220 headed towards.

01:16:33.680 First of all,

01:16:35.080 quickly, let's touch

01:16:36.460 on the topic that

01:16:37.220 we've been on all

01:16:38.300 day.

01:16:38.580 Charlie Gard, the

01:16:39.400 little 11-month-old

01:16:41.900 child whose parents

01:16:43.080 have the money to

01:16:43.920 take him to America

01:16:44.740 to get treatment.

01:16:45.860 The courts and the

01:16:47.440 national health care

01:16:48.580 system in Great

01:16:50.680 Britain says no.

01:16:52.200 He's got to die in a

01:16:53.300 British hospital.

01:16:54.180 Literally, he's got to

01:16:55.080 die in a British

01:16:55.560 hospital.

01:16:56.620 Slate Magazine just

01:16:57.600 said that the right is

01:16:59.220 going to use this as a

01:17:00.420 case for death panels

01:17:01.600 and against socialized

01:17:04.660 medicine.

01:17:06.260 Yeah.

01:17:08.620 Where do you stand on

01:17:09.600 this?

01:17:09.760 I mean, it seems like a

01:17:10.280 pretty solid case against

01:17:11.080 death panels and socialized

01:17:12.160 medicine.

01:17:12.620 I don't see why we

01:17:13.260 wouldn't possibly use that

01:17:14.340 as a cudgel.

01:17:15.840 But yeah, I mean, I

01:17:16.400 think that my wife is a

01:17:18.220 doctor.

01:17:18.840 She's in residency and

01:17:19.700 she works in a hospital

01:17:20.400 and she deals with

01:17:21.340 terminal people all the

01:17:22.780 time.

01:17:23.640 And doctors will say

01:17:25.120 that they'll lay out all

01:17:27.240 the choices for people

01:17:28.060 who are terminal and

01:17:28.700 they say maybe you'd

01:17:29.240 prefer not to be poked

01:17:29.900 and prodded every five

01:17:30.800 hours.

01:17:31.100 Maybe you want to die

01:17:31.680 at home.

01:17:32.300 But this is all about

01:17:33.080 the choice of the

01:17:33.660 patient.

01:17:34.120 And here, in Charlie

01:17:35.120 Gard's case, obviously

01:17:35.960 it's not about the

01:17:36.560 choice of the patient.

01:17:37.460 It's not about the

01:17:37.940 choice of the parents.

01:17:38.620 because when a

01:17:39.480 government and a

01:17:40.860 society decide that

01:17:41.820 quantity of life is less

01:17:43.020 important than quality of

01:17:44.060 life, you end up in a

01:17:45.520 really dire situation

01:17:46.540 because the goal of the

01:17:48.180 government at least

01:17:49.280 should be to preserve

01:17:50.420 quantity of life.

01:17:51.380 It's your job to decide

01:17:52.340 what sort of quality of

01:17:53.440 life you want to enjoy.

01:17:55.160 And we all have our

01:17:55.900 different moral standards

01:17:56.840 on that.

01:17:57.360 But once the government

01:17:58.500 decides that it gets to

01:17:59.400 decide what quality of

01:18:00.640 life is worth living,

01:18:01.940 then you run into some

01:18:03.120 serious...

01:18:03.780 So we were...

01:18:05.020 I had my staff reach

01:18:06.100 out to leaders of

01:18:09.060 churches and faith over

01:18:11.460 in England yesterday.

01:18:13.480 And I got several

01:18:14.540 responses.

01:18:15.240 One of them was from a

01:18:18.340 pastor who said,

01:18:19.360 look, the churches in

01:18:21.340 the pulpits, they are not

01:18:22.580 dealing with this.

01:18:23.660 They're not talking about

01:18:24.480 it at all.

01:18:26.500 However, the Christians in

01:18:28.960 England are talking about

01:18:30.300 it.

01:18:30.420 It's interesting that he

01:18:31.580 hoists the white flag

01:18:35.180 and says, the pulpits,

01:18:36.720 including mine, have

01:18:38.000 surrendered on this, but

01:18:39.460 the people are talking

01:18:40.520 about it.

01:18:42.340 So there's a huge

01:18:43.520 disconnect there.

01:18:44.360 But he said, please tell

01:18:47.040 Glenn that this is not a

01:18:49.520 case of the government

01:18:51.780 just taking away the

01:18:53.400 rights of a child or

01:18:56.080 rights of parents.

01:18:57.040 It is more so that the

01:19:00.380 government has paid for

01:19:02.560 this child's health care.

01:19:04.640 And he said, now that

01:19:06.000 they have the money to

01:19:07.660 take him to America, I

01:19:09.700 see no reason why he can't

01:19:10.780 go to America.

01:19:12.500 However, there isn't

01:19:14.220 enough money to work on

01:19:16.420 cases like that here in

01:19:17.780 England.

01:19:18.320 So he was making the

01:19:20.100 case that if you don't

01:19:21.460 have money, that it would

01:19:24.700 be right and righteous to

01:19:26.020 say, let him die.

01:19:28.020 If you are in a

01:19:29.460 socialized health care

01:19:30.560 system and you don't

01:19:33.220 have the money, is it

01:19:36.080 wrong?

01:19:36.940 What do you do?

01:19:38.480 Well, I mean, this is why

01:19:39.120 socialized health care

01:19:39.940 systems don't work.

01:19:40.740 I mean, eventually

01:19:41.100 somebody's making the

01:19:41.900 final call.

01:19:42.760 Even, I mean, it's not

01:19:43.640 like these parents were

01:19:44.240 born into wealth.

01:19:44.960 I mean, they raised this

01:19:45.600 money from a bunch of

01:19:46.340 charitable people so that

01:19:47.880 they could take their kid

01:19:48.600 out and try and save the

01:19:49.780 kid.

01:19:50.560 You know, as far as the

01:19:51.340 issue with the pulpits, I

01:19:52.440 mean, this is something that

01:19:53.080 happens in the United

01:19:53.680 States also.

01:19:54.220 I think one of the great

01:19:55.200 tragedies of the latter

01:19:56.120 half of the 20th century is

01:19:57.360 that pulpit figures across

01:19:59.400 the board in Judaism, in

01:20:01.140 Christianity, have fled from

01:20:03.520 crucial moral battles that are

01:20:05.060 happening in the now in

01:20:06.520 order to keep on the good

01:20:08.060 side of government because

01:20:08.940 they're afraid that the

01:20:09.560 government is going to come

01:20:10.480 against them.

01:20:11.420 And so they've run from

01:20:12.600 these moral battles and you

01:20:13.740 see it all the time and it's

01:20:14.920 it's really devastating.

01:20:16.220 It's it's sucked the marrow

01:20:17.280 from the bones of religion.

01:20:18.220 So then let's let's go to

01:20:19.440 another moral question, much

01:20:23.520 of much lesser, yeah, less

01:20:25.700 importance.

01:20:27.040 The the CNN battle with the

01:20:30.200 WWF video.

01:20:32.100 OK, I don't I have I'm having a

01:20:35.460 really hard time with this

01:20:37.060 because I don't see a good guy

01:20:39.360 on either side.

01:20:40.120 I see the president doing

01:20:42.880 something that if Barack

01:20:45.040 Obama would have had if he

01:20:47.020 just would have retweeted, not

01:20:48.940 saying that Donald Trump did

01:20:50.560 anything but retweet it, if he

01:20:52.700 if if Barack Obama would have

01:20:54.860 retweeted something that had

01:20:57.180 an old clip of him beating the

01:20:59.220 snot out of somebody and it

01:21:01.400 superimposed a tea bag over the

01:21:04.000 guy's head, we would have gone

01:21:05.660 ape crazy.

01:21:08.060 We would have gone we would have

01:21:09.560 become animals and gone nuts.

01:21:11.660 Oh, yeah.

01:21:12.120 Right.

01:21:12.680 For sure.

01:21:13.280 OK, so.

01:21:15.440 Why don't we see now

01:21:17.540 that we would have reacted the

01:21:20.360 same way that

01:21:22.300 the left is reacting to this

01:21:24.720 and

01:21:25.920 and forget about how

01:21:28.840 others are acting.

01:21:30.760 Worry about how we're acting

01:21:32.620 because we don't care how we're

01:21:34.820 acting anymore.

01:21:35.600 I mean, all we care about is the

01:21:36.700 the reactionary nature of

01:21:38.560 of politics right now.

01:21:40.020 It's why President Trump has

01:21:40.900 like a 90 percent approval

01:21:41.780 rating among Republicans and a

01:21:43.320 10 percent approval rating among

01:21:44.340 Democrats.

01:21:44.720 And the same thing by the end of

01:21:46.220 the Obama term was basically

01:21:47.980 true.

01:21:48.560 We're so polarized that we're

01:21:50.520 using the polarization

01:21:51.240 polarization as an excuse for bad

01:21:53.200 behavior.

01:21:54.120 And listen, I've spent my entire

01:21:56.120 life, my entire adult life

01:21:57.580 fighting the left.

01:21:58.940 And I was not expecting moral

01:22:01.000 leadership from the left.

01:22:02.180 I've never expected moral

01:22:03.000 leadership from the left because

01:22:03.880 they don't believe in the same

01:22:04.640 values that I believe in.

01:22:05.560 But I did expect moral leadership

01:22:06.680 from the right.

01:22:07.660 And I don't really see how moral

01:22:09.100 leadership is advanced by tweeting

01:22:10.460 out, you know, gifts of

01:22:12.480 of WWE wrestling

01:22:14.240 CNN logos.

01:22:15.540 I mean, this was once an office

01:22:16.680 occupied by George Washington and

01:22:18.040 Abraham Lincoln.

01:22:19.140 It's a little bit clowntastic

01:22:20.700 to watch the president

01:22:23.660 So have we just

01:22:24.560 have we just surrendered to

01:22:26.900 clown

01:22:28.660 Taz

01:22:29.020 clown Taz

01:22:29.940 Yeah, I mean, I think I think that

01:22:30.900 the Republican Party has broken

01:22:32.280 down into the conservative movement

01:22:34.220 has broken down into maybe three

01:22:35.780 groups.

01:22:36.540 Group number one are people who

01:22:37.700 say this is

01:22:38.840 ridiculous and silly and there's

01:22:41.160 no way he should be doing this.

01:22:42.420 And group two is this is

01:22:43.980 ridiculous and silly, but

01:22:45.380 at least we got Gorsuch.

01:22:46.780 And then group three are the

01:22:47.820 people and this is the growing

01:22:48.840 group.

01:22:49.100 This is the one that I actually

01:22:49.800 worried the most about is people

01:22:51.240 who actively celebrate this

01:22:52.520 where this is a feature, not a

01:22:53.700 bug.

01:22:54.000 It's not.

01:22:54.820 Well, you're going to get the

01:22:55.620 stupid tweet from time to time,

01:22:56.740 but at least you get Scott Pruitt

01:22:57.760 over at EPA pairing back the

01:22:59.160 regulations.

01:22:59.580 It's the people who say, I

01:23:00.960 don't really care what Scott

01:23:01.660 Pruitt is doing so much like I

01:23:02.880 don't pay attention to that.

01:23:03.980 And Gorsuch, yay.

01:23:05.080 But what I'm really interested

01:23:06.300 what really gets you jazzed up

01:23:08.160 is the tweets about Mika

01:23:10.320 Brzezinski's bloody facelift or

01:23:12.060 Trump tackling a CNN logo like

01:23:13.980 that's really what gets me going.

01:23:15.420 Well, it's it's amazing because

01:23:16.700 we used to say when I was at

01:23:18.240 Fox, watch the other hand and

01:23:21.120 the other hand.

01:23:22.680 Well, I don't I don't think

01:23:23.820 they're coordinated.

01:23:24.640 I think both hands are just

01:23:25.660 flailing.

01:23:26.120 But you could make the case

01:23:29.760 that they're very strategic

01:23:31.120 because as we are, as we're

01:23:33.020 not talking about a health care

01:23:35.800 reform that is absolutely

01:23:37.960 awful.

01:23:39.640 It's not.

01:23:40.460 Well, it's not any better.

01:23:42.600 I, you know, I'm always hesitant

01:23:44.000 to credit strategy to President

01:23:45.940 Trump when sheer unbridled

01:23:47.260 id would do it.

01:23:48.600 You know, I think that this

01:23:50.640 wasn't he thought, you know what?

01:23:51.880 I really need a distraction from

01:23:52.860 my health reform bill.

01:23:53.600 So I'm going to tweet out a dumb

01:23:54.440 gif.

01:23:54.980 I think it was somebody

01:23:56.400 forwarded me a dumb gif.

01:23:57.280 Ha ha ha.

01:23:58.120 Wouldn't it be hilarious if I

01:23:59.100 put it up on my Twitter feed?

01:24:00.040 And it really was that amount

01:24:01.020 of consideration.

01:24:02.060 Right.

01:24:02.300 So so in order for it to be a

01:24:04.160 diversion, a diversion usually

01:24:05.980 requires something for you to

01:24:07.720 divert attention from.

01:24:09.020 I don't think he's diverting

01:24:09.940 attention necessarily from the

01:24:11.100 health care bill because that's

01:24:12.000 a giant like right now.

01:24:14.020 It's it's it's a cluster.

01:24:15.060 So what kills me is that there

01:24:16.900 are a lot of people that are

01:24:19.780 willing, very smart people that

01:24:22.040 are willing to say and help me

01:24:23.300 understand it, Ben, that are

01:24:25.220 willing to say this is

01:24:28.040 OK, the health care bill.

01:24:30.000 Let's just say everything else

01:24:31.280 is saying.

01:24:32.180 But this is that the people

01:24:34.700 I trust now are not Mike

01:24:37.100 Lee.

01:24:38.080 They are.

01:24:38.660 what's his face, turtle face

01:24:41.180 from Kentucky, McConnell,

01:24:42.720 McConnell.

01:24:43.400 OK, they are trusting McConnell

01:24:46.180 over people like Mike Lee.

01:24:49.220 Yeah.

01:24:50.060 Help me figure that out.

01:24:51.240 So not to not to break too

01:24:53.560 many groups down to other

01:24:54.260 groups, but I think there are

01:24:55.000 two groups of people here.

01:24:55.840 One is the people who just want

01:24:57.500 to see a win for Trump.

01:24:58.480 And that means something has to

01:24:59.820 pass.

01:25:00.240 And since we're not going to

01:25:01.200 pass simple repeal because

01:25:02.800 Trump basically foreclosed that.

01:25:04.700 I mean, he forbade that during

01:25:05.820 the campaign.

01:25:06.320 He made a bunch of promises

01:25:07.200 that are not in in

01:25:09.020 coordination with simple

01:25:09.940 repeal.

01:25:10.480 And he said, we're not going to

01:25:11.340 let anybody go without

01:25:12.160 health care.

01:25:12.720 The government's going to make

01:25:13.540 sure that everybody is covered.

01:25:14.580 I mean, he said this stuff in

01:25:15.440 the campaign.

01:25:16.100 So it's kind of difficult to

01:25:17.160 say that now we're going to

01:25:17.900 repeal and we're going to cut

01:25:18.660 back Medicaid.

01:25:19.680 So there's group number one

01:25:20.740 that just wants to see Trump

01:25:21.500 get a win.

01:25:21.980 And then there's group number

01:25:22.880 two who say, OK, now we're

01:25:24.700 going to be honest.

01:25:25.200 We were lying for seven years

01:25:26.180 or Republicans were lying for

01:25:27.160 seven years when they said

01:25:28.160 they were going to repeal this

01:25:28.920 thing.

01:25:29.360 Now we've got to be honest.

01:25:30.360 We're not repealing it.

01:25:31.420 But the best that we can do

01:25:36.320 here and we'll call it

01:25:37.580 Obamacare appeal so that all

01:25:38.740 the all the idiots have all

01:25:40.280 the roots will believe it.

01:25:41.260 Is there a group, a growing

01:25:43.020 group of conservatives

01:25:44.480 that believe in

01:25:46.540 socialized everything?

01:25:48.800 Yeah, I mean, I think that

01:25:49.400 I think there's a growing

01:25:50.220 group of conservatives who at

01:25:51.260 least don't care or apathetic

01:25:52.540 who are more

01:25:54.560 interested, again, in the

01:25:55.960 fight against what they

01:25:56.980 perceive to be the left than

01:25:58.280 they are in the fight

01:25:59.740 against leftist policy.

01:26:01.020 So they've there's a mistake

01:26:03.020 that's been made, which is

01:26:03.820 you identify the entirety of

01:26:05.660 leftism as residing of the

01:26:07.640 hall in the halls of CNN or

01:26:08.860 the New York Times or at the

01:26:10.260 universities.

01:26:10.920 But when leftism actually

01:26:12.440 starts to infect your party,

01:26:15.140 then it can't be infecting

01:26:17.000 your party because, hey,

01:26:17.560 we're Republicans.

01:26:18.040 We're not we're not

01:26:19.060 we're conservatives.

01:26:20.140 We don't believe in the

01:26:21.040 we're not leftist.

01:26:21.960 I mean, come on.

01:26:22.440 We hate those guys.

01:26:23.460 And it doesn't matter.

01:26:24.300 This is why, you know,

01:26:25.180 Steve Bannon, the White

01:26:25.900 House chief strategist, he

01:26:27.120 was out there floating trial

01:26:28.320 balloons about raising taxes

01:26:29.340 on the rich.

01:26:29.960 And there are a bunch of

01:26:30.580 people going, well, yeah,

01:26:31.580 why not do that?

01:26:32.900 Well, where were you?

01:26:34.140 What?

01:26:35.660 I've been here for a while.

01:26:37.240 This is a new one.

01:26:38.060 But people saying, well, I

01:26:39.720 mean, if that's good policy

01:26:40.980 and if that'll help us win

01:26:42.100 Democratic voters and all the

01:26:43.300 rest of it, then why not do

01:26:44.280 it again?

01:26:45.380 I think that what people

01:26:46.940 the stuff that you and I were

01:26:48.200 looking at during the campaign

01:26:49.140 and we were saying this is

01:26:49.800 really like some of the

01:26:50.780 activity that Trump was

01:26:51.820 pushing or things like

01:26:53.320 Gianforte, the candidate in

01:26:54.660 Montana, body slamming

01:26:55.500 reporter, things where you and

01:26:56.360 I were going, this is crazy.

01:26:57.700 Like, how is this happening?

01:26:59.460 There are a lot of people

01:27:00.120 who are seeing that not as

01:27:01.480 a in spite of that, we're

01:27:03.400 happy because we're getting

01:27:04.120 some good policy, the policy

01:27:05.700 doesn't actually matter.

01:27:06.600 All that matters is we have

01:27:08.220 for so long hated losing to

01:27:09.720 the left that people

01:27:11.400 literally body slamming

01:27:12.480 reporters or just going out

01:27:14.460 there and labeling everything

01:27:15.300 fake news or wrestling

01:27:17.060 gifts or all this stuff is

01:27:18.940 actually, that's what we

01:27:19.680 wanted.

01:27:20.040 We elected that, right?

01:27:21.020 What we wanted was the

01:27:22.100 Twitter.

01:27:22.680 OK, the Twitter is not an

01:27:23.640 obstacle to getting what we

01:27:24.620 want.

01:27:24.840 The Twitter is what we want.

01:27:26.120 The policy is the obstacle to

01:27:27.540 getting what we want because

01:27:28.320 we might not get more Twitter

01:27:29.260 if he doesn't get policy

01:27:30.660 passed that allows him to

01:27:31.940 get re-election.

01:27:32.640 And I think we have to be

01:27:33.620 honest with ourselves about

01:27:34.540 whether we're more jazzed up

01:27:35.580 about the wrestling gift or

01:27:36.920 whether they're more jazzed up

01:27:37.760 about Gorsuch because I think

01:27:39.160 that we're more jazzed up

01:27:40.540 about the rest.

01:27:41.060 I think that's right.

01:27:41.740 I think Trump thinks that's

01:27:42.820 right, too, which is why he

01:27:43.600 keeps doing it.

01:27:44.180 Right.

01:27:44.280 He gets more applause doing

01:27:45.100 that than he does with

01:27:46.020 conservative policy.

01:27:47.460 Back with Ben Shapiro here in

01:27:48.840 a second.

01:27:49.860 While we are celebrating our

01:27:51.080 country's independence this

01:27:52.180 week, keep in mind all of

01:27:53.540 those who fought to defend

01:27:54.880 our freedoms.

01:27:56.180 But what happens when the

01:27:57.480 bad guys just aren't

01:27:58.440 overseas?

01:27:58.960 They're not just terrorists

01:27:59.740 overseas, but in your own

01:28:01.420 hometown, this is something

01:28:02.420 that Germany is really

01:28:04.260 ratcheting up for for

01:28:06.440 tomorrow for the G20

01:28:07.560 summit.

01:28:08.400 They think that thing could

01:28:09.520 just be a giant sinkhole of

01:28:12.240 of radicalism and violence

01:28:14.400 tomorrow.

01:28:15.960 It's a matter of time before

01:28:17.620 it comes here because we're

01:28:18.720 really not doing the things

01:28:20.140 that we need to do.

01:28:21.580 The USCCA knows that in

01:28:23.580 today's unpredictable world,

01:28:25.400 self-defense is a much more of

01:28:27.620 a necessity than ever before.

01:28:29.400 They are the first and

01:28:30.880 largest organization to be

01:28:32.940 solely dedicated to the

01:28:35.300 protection of responsible

01:28:37.620 gun owners before, during and

01:28:40.000 after a self-defense incident.

01:28:42.200 You have no idea.

01:28:43.620 We all prepare to pull the

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01:30:22.440 And a lot smarter than us,

01:30:23.400 so let me ask a question.

01:30:25.260 The CNN thing, their reaction to

01:30:28.300 the wrestling situation, which was

01:30:30.280 them saying, well, we won't

01:30:32.280 release a name, but if you act

01:30:34.360 badly, we might.

01:30:35.920 Yeah.

01:30:36.200 I don't even understand that.

01:30:38.720 It was a weird way of phrasing

01:30:40.320 it, and I'm not defending CNN

01:30:42.120 in the way they handled it.

01:30:42.800 It was very clunky at best.

01:30:44.520 I was a little surprised on the

01:30:45.660 sort of uniform reaction on the

01:30:47.100 right, though, at least the

01:30:48.780 passionate response from the

01:30:50.240 right, saying, sort of giving

01:30:52.560 this real reverence to an online

01:30:54.700 pseudonym, like as if this really

01:30:56.280 means that you're anonymous.

01:30:57.700 I mean, like, you know, you could

01:30:58.640 try to be anonymous, but that

01:30:59.760 does not guarantee your anonymity.

01:31:01.720 And beyond that, the idea that

01:31:03.560 you can kind of go, you know,

01:31:06.200 who are you mad at?

01:31:07.420 You're mad at CNN here, who's

01:31:08.700 essentially, let's say, in the

01:31:10.020 school situation, the principal

01:31:11.260 punishing your kid for doing

01:31:12.920 something wrong, right?

01:31:14.080 They're doing, they're punishing

01:31:14.980 your kid for being something

01:31:15.860 wrong.

01:31:16.160 I always see the right as the

01:31:17.280 people who are mad at their

01:31:18.100 kid, not at the school.

01:31:19.440 Right.

01:31:19.680 The left is the one that goes

01:31:20.700 and whines about the school.

01:31:21.800 Hey, why did you get my kid in

01:31:23.020 trouble?

01:31:23.340 You're causing real detriment.

01:31:24.980 Where the left, where the

01:31:26.340 right is supposed to be the one

01:31:27.060 saying, wait a moronic kid,

01:31:29.040 don't post anti-Semitic stuff.

01:31:31.340 Don't, don't, don't post stuff

01:31:33.580 online you want associated

01:31:34.580 with yourself.

01:31:35.160 What am I missing?

01:31:35.800 Well, I mean, I think there, I

01:31:38.520 don't think you're missing

01:31:38.980 anything with the basic

01:31:39.660 calculus as far as the right is

01:31:41.680 supposed to be chiding people

01:31:42.640 when they do this sort of

01:31:43.380 stuff.

01:31:43.640 Although during the last

01:31:44.400 election cycle, as the number

01:31:45.700 one recipient of anti-Semitic

01:31:46.900 tweets in the journalistic

01:31:47.660 community, according to the

01:31:48.580 ADL, 40% of all anti-Semitic

01:31:50.460 tweets directed at journalists

01:31:51.380 came to me personally during

01:31:52.400 the last election.

01:31:52.860 Congratulations.

01:31:52.980 Thank you.

01:31:53.580 It's great.

01:31:53.880 I have a trophy on my desk.

01:31:55.180 Most hated Jew in America,

01:31:56.340 which is a real accomplishment.

01:31:58.040 Yeah, it's great.

01:31:58.900 But the, you know, I think that

01:32:01.100 this story is a little bit more

01:32:03.280 than that for a couple of

01:32:04.900 reasons.

01:32:05.120 One is that the attempt to link

01:32:08.200 Trump with the guy who created

01:32:10.300 the meme and then to link him

01:32:11.660 with all the other stuff that

01:32:12.700 this guy had ever created was

01:32:14.260 obviously a stretch and unfair and

01:32:15.980 unfair to Trump and it's in,

01:32:18.180 in obviously a hit job on Trump.

01:32:20.620 So that was CNN going over its

01:32:22.920 skis on that.

01:32:23.500 Okay.

01:32:23.640 So assume that and say, okay,

01:32:25.700 fine.

01:32:26.020 Well, they disagree.

01:32:26.580 They think that if you, that the

01:32:27.800 Trump associating with the Reddit

01:32:28.960 crowd, he gets whatever he does,

01:32:30.640 whoever he's linked to, we're now

01:32:31.860 going to search for all their

01:32:33.440 ancillary material and link him

01:32:34.680 to that, which again, I have a

01:32:35.980 problem with.

01:32:36.560 That's only mistake.

01:32:37.200 Number one mistake.

01:32:38.100 Mistake number two is that

01:32:39.480 apparently they got the wrong

01:32:40.660 guy.

01:32:41.020 So apparently they actually,

01:32:42.240 they didn't even get the right

01:32:43.400 guy.

01:32:43.700 And then mistake number three is

01:32:45.420 that they apparently called him

01:32:47.500 and before he returned their

01:32:48.960 call, he said, okay, CNN's on my

01:32:50.260 tail.

01:32:50.720 I'm going to apologize and pull

01:32:51.800 all this stuff down before I

01:32:52.520 call them back.

01:32:53.020 He does that.

01:32:53.420 He calls them back.

01:32:53.940 And then they run that story

01:32:54.860 where they say, and we'll keep

01:32:56.200 him anonymous if he obeys our

01:32:58.360 orders.

01:32:58.820 Okay.

01:32:59.140 That's no longer journalism.

01:33:00.140 That's now activism.

01:33:01.000 So if you're an activist group,

01:33:02.340 that's okay.

01:33:02.940 Right.

01:33:03.160 I mean, it's, it's still, what

01:33:04.200 do you think of the idea that

01:33:05.400 Stu floated yesterday that that's

01:33:07.660 really the Buzzfeed crew that kind

01:33:09.800 of came in that was pushing back

01:33:12.000 against CNN because they are more

01:33:14.260 activist.

01:33:15.260 Yeah.

01:33:15.780 Don't get me wrong.

01:33:16.680 I worked at CNN.

01:33:17.640 They are activists as well, but not

01:33:20.220 like the Buzzfeed people.

01:33:21.120 I mean, I do think that the media

01:33:22.320 have become just generally more

01:33:23.960 activist since Trump was elected.

01:33:25.620 I mean, I think that they now see

01:33:26.600 it as their, I wrote a column for

01:33:28.000 national review where I said that

01:33:28.980 the dichotomy right now in the

01:33:30.720 American discourse is that the

01:33:32.100 left sees themselves in the media

01:33:33.220 see themselves as these, you

01:33:34.540 know, battered hat, trench coat

01:33:35.700 wearing guys who are snooping on

01:33:37.080 the streets and every nook and

01:33:38.140 cranny for all the corruption over

01:33:39.380 at Trump and he hall.

01:33:40.260 And then the right sees Trump as a

01:33:42.060 sort of playboy billionaire, Bruce

01:33:43.960 Wayne type who, you know, is an

01:33:46.120 idiot during the day, but then at

01:33:47.140 night he dons the bat cape and, and

01:33:48.900 goes out and brings justice to

01:33:50.420 Mika Brzezinski's face.

01:33:51.600 Right.

01:33:51.800 You know, so I'm not sure that's a

01:33:54.480 bridge that can never be gap, a gap

01:33:56.200 that can never be bridged.

01:33:56.880 But, you know, as far as CNN's

01:33:59.220 behavior on this, I think I

01:34:01.280 reacted very strongly to this

01:34:02.700 because the CNN is not the

01:34:04.580 gatekeeper of telling people what

01:34:06.980 they can do or we're going to

01:34:08.160 release X.

01:34:08.800 It's either newsworthy and release

01:34:10.100 it or it's not newsworthy and let

01:34:11.760 it go.

01:34:12.120 You don't get to.

01:34:12.740 So here's the thing I don't

01:34:13.820 understand.

01:34:14.620 I mean, today I saw this for the

01:34:16.300 first time.

01:34:16.720 This apparently what was on that

01:34:17.980 guy's feed or whatever.

01:34:20.220 Yeah.

01:34:20.540 This comes from a pro Hitler group

01:34:23.280 and you're not on this, but this

01:34:25.740 is all the Jews.

01:34:26.800 I don't know if they missed me.

01:34:27.200 I mean, I know there's all the

01:34:28.500 Jews that work at CNN.

01:34:29.740 I mean, guys, we're in a

01:34:30.020 keepah.

01:34:30.340 Come on.

01:34:30.800 OK, so there are Jews that work

01:34:33.760 at CNN.

01:34:34.380 Yes.

01:34:34.620 It's amazing.

01:34:35.460 So this is amazing because it has

01:34:37.020 all their faces with a star of

01:34:38.880 David next to it.

01:34:39.700 I mean, it's so clearly Hitler

01:34:41.260 anti-Semitic kind of stuff by by

01:34:45.080 saying, hey, we're not going to

01:34:45.920 release this stuff.

01:34:46.940 If they actually I don't think

01:34:49.780 did go as far as they could have

01:34:52.520 to tie Trump to this kind of

01:34:55.840 stuff, if they would have spent

01:34:56.880 two days showing this stuff and

01:34:59.060 saying it's the kind of stuff that

01:35:00.460 he was doing, blah, blah, blah.

01:35:01.940 Yeah.

01:35:02.500 Then it would have been worse.

01:35:03.800 I don't understand their strategy.

01:35:06.820 I'll get to that in just a second.

01:35:08.280 Welcome to the program and to

01:35:31.620 Ben Shapiro, who is from the Daily

01:35:34.440 Wire and a a really

01:35:37.500 bright guy who

01:35:40.280 is not afraid.

01:35:41.940 We have very different approaches,

01:35:44.560 the two of us, but I think we

01:35:46.380 believe much of the same stuff.

01:35:48.900 Right.

01:35:48.960 You're a nice person.

01:35:49.660 I'm not.

01:35:50.140 So, yeah, no, it's just.

01:35:52.400 Yeah, I want to talk to you a

01:35:54.100 little bit about that, too, before

01:35:55.500 we before we go, because that's

01:35:56.960 not it.

01:35:57.560 I mean, I don't think you're a

01:35:58.540 bomb thrower by any stretch of

01:35:59.780 the imagination.

01:36:00.300 We were talking about this earlier

01:36:01.660 today.

01:36:02.640 You're very logical and you

01:36:05.100 don't mind confrontation.

01:36:06.300 Right.

01:36:07.300 But you're not a bomb thrower.

01:36:08.520 There's a difference between a

01:36:09.620 bomb thrower and a, you know,

01:36:11.740 you're you're not quite Ravi

01:36:14.300 Zacharias.

01:36:15.120 I don't know if you know who he

01:36:15.900 is.

01:36:16.420 Yeah.

01:36:16.580 But but you're in that in that on

01:36:18.800 that road.

01:36:19.720 Well, I appreciate it.

01:36:20.280 Thank you.

01:36:20.580 Yeah.

01:36:20.840 Yeah.

01:36:21.080 Yeah.

01:36:21.360 I mean, yeah, I like to think that

01:36:23.040 I'm more interested in saying things

01:36:24.600 that I think are true that I am

01:36:25.540 in offending people.

01:36:26.200 And if the things that I think are

01:36:27.280 to offend people, then.

01:36:28.580 Yeah.

01:36:28.780 So there's a totally different.

01:36:30.120 I mean, some people go out to make

01:36:31.780 headlines and to offend.

01:36:32.940 And I don't think you've I've never

01:36:35.160 seen you do that.

01:36:36.740 Yeah.

01:36:36.900 Thank you.

01:36:37.260 Yeah.

01:36:37.460 It's something that I that I do

01:36:38.680 take some pride in.

01:36:39.620 And it's one of the reasons why

01:36:40.860 it's so funny.

01:36:41.400 I'll speak on these college campuses

01:36:42.500 and there'll be these major

01:36:43.180 protests and and quasi riots and

01:36:45.380 all this.

01:36:45.700 And then when people who are on the

01:36:47.020 left actually come to the lecture,

01:36:48.220 they'll say they don't understand

01:36:49.860 what that was all about.

01:36:51.600 Yeah, I know.

01:36:52.240 I know.

01:36:52.980 OK, so let's go back to where we

01:36:54.400 were before the break.

01:36:55.340 You were about to answer something

01:36:56.420 like CNN thing.

01:36:57.400 CNN.

01:36:57.620 Yes.

01:36:58.080 OK, so what is CNN strategy on

01:37:01.540 on the way they dealt with all of

01:37:04.100 this?

01:37:04.520 I think that the entire media right

01:37:05.740 now are so as I say, I think we're

01:37:07.700 in a reactionary period, which is

01:37:09.400 really dangerous because whatever

01:37:10.280 happens out of a reactionary period,

01:37:11.620 it's really good.

01:37:12.740 But the media are so reactionary

01:37:15.800 they think every story is a kill

01:37:17.220 shot.

01:37:17.640 And so they're they're interested in

01:37:19.460 just getting the story out fast.

01:37:21.240 Don't they know there's no kill

01:37:22.380 shot on this one?

01:37:23.460 Yeah, exactly.

01:37:24.060 I mean, it's not going to happen.

01:37:25.140 But they think everything is right.

01:37:26.340 I mean, you have Democrats were

01:37:27.300 saying based on his tweets last

01:37:28.360 week with MSNBC, he should be

01:37:29.700 impeached.

01:37:30.220 It's like, really, that's your

01:37:31.020 grounds.

01:37:31.760 That was it.

01:37:32.740 Like we didn't.

01:37:33.320 Have you not seen a crime or a

01:37:35.180 misdemeanor?

01:37:35.860 Which one is that?

01:37:37.260 It's the Twitter clause of the

01:37:38.500 Constitution.

01:37:39.920 I mean, they've put a lot of other

01:37:41.080 clauses in there.

01:37:41.800 I think they can't put that one in

01:37:43.100 there, too.

01:37:43.480 But they they really are in order

01:37:46.200 for them to maintain ratings and

01:37:48.660 or also because they actually

01:37:49.780 believe this.

01:37:51.020 They are living in this mythical

01:37:52.560 world where if they break the

01:37:54.480 right story, then Trump will just

01:37:56.580 collapse and he won't be president

01:37:57.780 anymore and the entire reality will

01:37:59.400 change.

01:38:00.100 And this is why CNN was pumping the

01:38:01.700 Trump Russia collusion stuff, not

01:38:02.960 just saying that, you know, there

01:38:04.240 are people who Trump was

01:38:05.020 associated with who have Russian

01:38:06.200 connections, which is true, but

01:38:07.660 saying there was active collusion

01:38:08.720 and trying to blow this up into some

01:38:10.040 big scandal with no evidence.

01:38:11.220 There's no evidence of none.

01:38:12.600 And they were doing this for a year

01:38:13.680 and particularly post election.

01:38:15.260 They were doing it because their

01:38:16.600 viewers are invested in the idea

01:38:18.360 that if they they want to be

01:38:19.500 watching CNN at directly the

01:38:21.680 moment when Trump goes down.

01:38:23.500 But don't they?

01:38:24.020 Yeah, that's true.

01:38:25.100 But don't they understand that we

01:38:27.400 kind of already paved that ground

01:38:29.760 and it gave birth to the birthers.

01:38:32.600 OK, and, you know, four years into

01:38:35.400 it, Donald Trump is doing the whole

01:38:36.900 birth certificate thing, which only

01:38:39.280 hardens his supporters.

01:38:42.320 That's all that that does.

01:38:44.180 And so by by CNN making everything

01:38:47.080 into an impeachment grounds of

01:38:49.080 impeachment and a constitutional

01:38:50.300 constitutional crisis, they're only

01:38:52.260 hardening both sides.

01:38:54.980 They don't care.

01:38:55.580 I mean, why would they care?

01:38:57.140 And I think that on the right, why

01:38:59.020 would people on the right care?

01:39:00.680 I mean, you used to be able to say

01:39:02.480 two things.

01:39:03.260 Number one, it's bad for the American

01:39:04.960 body politic to have these

01:39:06.140 hardening of positions.

01:39:07.660 And number two, it's not going to

01:39:08.840 bring you victory.

01:39:09.580 But clearly that's not true.

01:39:11.020 Right.

01:39:11.160 I mean, clearly the like we on the

01:39:13.320 right keep saying we're in the

01:39:14.560 Democrats going to propose

01:39:15.360 something.

01:39:16.580 When are they going to bring their

01:39:17.540 solutions?

01:39:17.960 They don't need to.

01:39:19.380 OK, let's let's not pretend here.

01:39:20.900 The Republicans brought no solutions

01:39:22.160 for eight years while Obama was

01:39:23.480 president and they yelled at him.

01:39:25.040 And then the guy who said that he

01:39:26.100 was born in Kenya is the president

01:39:27.880 of the United States.

01:39:28.640 So it's very difficult to make the

01:39:29.900 argument that what we really need

01:39:31.260 is a great unifier in order to win

01:39:32.700 elections when I can't say that we

01:39:34.780 were exactly the party of

01:39:36.040 unification.

01:39:36.480 Now, that doesn't say there was

01:39:37.560 something to unify with.

01:39:38.520 The left wasn't providing a lot for

01:39:39.740 us to to unify over while

01:39:41.380 President Obama was president, was

01:39:42.800 providing his own form of

01:39:44.500 polarization and racial extremism in

01:39:46.500 terms of polarizing various racial

01:39:47.900 groups for political gain.

01:39:48.940 But it's but right now there's not

01:39:51.200 a lot of of incentive

01:39:52.980 on any side for a

01:39:55.780 rhetoric of unity or for a

01:39:58.040 rhetoric, a rhetoric of reason

01:39:59.940 and unity.

01:40:00.480 And I don't like his policies at all

01:40:02.360 was Mitt Romney.

01:40:03.460 Yes.

01:40:04.200 And he was right down

01:40:06.980 the traditional middle and

01:40:08.280 everything else.

01:40:08.940 He was much more conservative

01:40:11.900 than this president is

01:40:14.100 in many ways.

01:40:14.980 And yet we didn't unify

01:40:17.720 around that it.

01:40:19.100 We unify against somebody who's

01:40:20.840 going to punch back.

01:40:21.660 And that's the whole thing.

01:40:22.820 I think that this is a rage

01:40:24.420 moment.

01:40:24.780 And one of the things that's

01:40:25.940 happening for politicians and the

01:40:27.620 media is there's a lot of money

01:40:29.540 and a lot of political gain to be

01:40:31.480 made in humoring people's anger.

01:40:33.140 You know, I'm as a parent.

01:40:34.780 One of the things that I have two

01:40:36.200 kids who are under the age of four

01:40:37.260 and which means you deal with

01:40:39.040 tantrums a lot.

01:40:40.060 And one of the things that you

01:40:41.200 do with the kid who's having a

01:40:42.200 tantrum is you have to say, you

01:40:43.960 know, why are you having the

01:40:44.880 tantrum?

01:40:45.320 Is the anger justified?

01:40:46.960 Right.

01:40:47.100 And usually the anger is not.

01:40:47.940 It's a three and a half year

01:40:48.560 old.

01:40:48.780 Right.

01:40:48.900 I mean, why the anger usually

01:40:49.940 isn't when when people who are

01:40:51.540 adults are angry, we no longer

01:40:53.400 even bother asking them, is your

01:40:54.780 anger justified?

01:40:55.560 Are you mad for a good reason or

01:40:57.080 are you just mad?

01:40:57.780 And then if they're mad, we say,

01:40:58.620 OK, well, we can grab that.

01:40:59.520 We can use that.

01:41:00.100 We can channel that anger into

01:41:01.660 something politically useful,

01:41:03.060 electing me or raising money for

01:41:04.980 this cause.

01:41:05.800 Or and so if there's nothing to be

01:41:06.940 angry at or if there's less

01:41:08.260 to be angry at than you think,

01:41:09.620 then how are you going to take

01:41:10.740 advantage of that?

01:41:11.440 And I think that that's what you

01:41:12.380 see happening on both sides of the

01:41:14.460 house on the left.

01:41:15.260 They're saying this is the worst

01:41:16.200 president who ever was.

01:41:17.100 He's hit Larry.

01:41:17.720 And it's nothing's happening,

01:41:19.120 guys, like nothing.

01:41:20.440 Zero things have happened.

01:41:21.600 Right.

01:41:21.740 I mean, Judge Gorsuch replaced

01:41:23.100 Judge Justice Scalia.

01:41:24.480 Right.

01:41:24.720 OK, basically nothing happened.

01:41:26.360 Nothing's happening.

01:41:27.100 Right.

01:41:27.380 Right.

01:41:27.740 There's been zero major pieces of

01:41:29.320 legislation passed and signed by

01:41:30.780 this president.

01:41:31.240 There have been a bunch of

01:41:32.240 repeals of small laws under

01:41:34.600 under under Obama.

01:41:36.500 But like, come on, there's been a

01:41:38.080 transformational presidency.

01:41:39.460 Not in any way has it's been

01:41:40.720 transformational.

01:41:41.540 But the left is treating it like

01:41:42.620 you have a reason to be angry.

01:41:43.960 There's a reason you're mad.

01:41:45.460 Not really.

01:41:46.080 And on the right, you have people

01:41:47.380 like President Trump doing this

01:41:48.540 during the campaign to great

01:41:49.620 effect where he was going into

01:41:50.800 these small towns that were

01:41:52.080 shutting down because the

01:41:53.180 industries had left and saying,

01:41:54.840 well, the reason that you have

01:41:55.780 a right to be angry and not a

01:41:57.600 right to be angry at the

01:41:58.260 overregulation, which is legit,

01:41:59.840 but you have a right to be angry

01:42:00.880 because the Chinese and the

01:42:01.780 Mexicans are stealing your job.

01:42:03.300 And if we just we just win

01:42:04.560 again, if we didn't have these

01:42:05.420 all these idiots and we just

01:42:06.440 win again, then we would be

01:42:07.700 able to bring everything back.

01:42:09.380 All these factors would come

01:42:10.320 flowing back in.

01:42:11.620 And of course, none of that is

01:42:12.520 true.

01:42:13.380 And so what you have right now is

01:42:15.280 the media trying for a buck to

01:42:17.080 promote anger.

01:42:17.760 And you have the politicians for

01:42:19.140 a vote to try and promote anger

01:42:20.480 and never at any point does

01:42:21.740 anybody it makes a pathological

01:42:23.140 country.

01:42:23.980 Jonathan Haidt, a social

01:42:25.720 psychologist over at NYU, he

01:42:27.760 talks about how when it comes to

01:42:29.500 psychology, the single best

01:42:31.840 method that's been devised for

01:42:34.100 psychologists is cognitive

01:42:35.280 behavioral therapy, where they try

01:42:36.940 to take somebody who's having a

01:42:38.300 chain of bad thoughts that's

01:42:39.080 leading to depression and then

01:42:40.240 they try to say, OK, well, why

01:42:41.460 is it that you're is it possible

01:42:42.600 you're exaggerating the situation?

01:42:43.800 Is it possible you're reading

01:42:44.820 somebody wrong?

01:42:45.640 You break the chain of bad

01:42:46.760 thoughts by saying maybe your

01:42:48.360 feelings are not justified.

01:42:49.400 Maybe you should reexamine your

01:42:50.340 own feelings and get control over

01:42:51.500 your own feelings.

01:42:52.100 And then you can control yourself

01:42:53.340 as a human being.

01:42:54.560 Politics is the opposite of that.

01:42:55.740 Now it's to take that rage and

01:42:57.380 exacerbate it and magnify it and

01:42:59.540 make it bigger and broader and

01:43:01.500 louder.

01:43:01.920 So, Ben, that brings me right to

01:43:04.780 you and you and me.

01:43:06.740 And I know I wouldn't even put it.

01:43:08.480 I wouldn't put us in different

01:43:09.680 categories.

01:43:10.540 You just approach it differently.

01:43:12.140 You are approaching it with

01:43:13.200 reason, but you don't mind the

01:43:15.580 battle.

01:43:15.960 I kind of want to see Ben Shapiro

01:43:17.120 as a dad with a logical argument

01:43:18.560 to the three and a half year old.

01:43:20.220 She's a pretty logical three and

01:43:21.380 a half year old.

01:43:21.900 She's still three and a half.

01:43:22.880 But actually, the macaroni and

01:43:23.800 cheese is the correct temperature

01:43:24.820 are you seeing and are you even

01:43:32.620 looking for those people, not on

01:43:36.880 the left, but the reasonable people?

01:43:41.000 I think there's I don't even know

01:43:43.140 what the number is.

01:43:44.220 And a bad day, I think it's 30 percent

01:43:46.160 on a good day.

01:43:46.880 I think it's maybe 70 percent of

01:43:49.180 Americans who if were presented

01:43:52.600 with a group of adults that could

01:43:57.540 all get along, even though they

01:43:59.540 disagree, and we're saying, you

01:44:01.900 know what, just come over and watch

01:44:03.160 that stuff burn down over here.

01:44:05.560 We're just going to start moving and

01:44:07.700 getting some things done.

01:44:09.700 Kind of the Republican Party in the

01:44:11.740 1850s that really was mainly made up

01:44:15.640 of Democrats at the time that said,

01:44:17.540 you're not serious.

01:44:18.620 And the Whigs that joined them and

01:44:20.000 said, my side's not serious either.

01:44:22.600 And we actually want to solve this

01:44:24.440 slavery thing.

01:44:26.160 Do you do you see?

01:44:29.120 Do you see those reasonable people

01:44:30.740 out there?

01:44:31.700 I do, actually.

01:44:32.660 I think it's a growing number of

01:44:33.980 people who are disillusioned with

01:44:35.200 the with the WWE of it all and

01:44:37.680 and are sick.

01:44:38.860 And they see that it's kind of fake

01:44:39.980 that really it's a lot of people who

01:44:41.440 are making money and and see it on

01:44:43.480 the left as well.

01:44:44.560 I think.

01:44:45.040 Yeah, I mean, I think that when I get

01:44:46.560 a lot of letters from college kids

01:44:47.960 because I speak a lot to college

01:44:48.940 kids and they watch my videos and I

01:44:51.360 get a lot of letters from college

01:44:52.280 kids who say I was on the left and

01:44:53.800 I was, you know, motivated to

01:44:54.880 believe that people on the right

01:44:55.780 were nasty and mean and cruel.

01:44:57.560 And and then I watch some of your

01:44:59.120 stuff and now it's opened my mind.

01:45:01.000 I'm doing some reading of my own

01:45:02.220 and I'd like to kind of examine

01:45:03.900 ideas differently.

01:45:04.680 And I think that there are those

01:45:06.000 people who are who are getting

01:45:07.200 over this.

01:45:08.380 I think that what's the future

01:45:10.420 for conservatism is not going to be

01:45:13.240 complete Reagan conservatism.

01:45:14.580 It's going to be almost a

01:45:15.140 conservative libertarian merger.

01:45:16.660 Yeah, it's going to be a leave me

01:45:17.520 alone.

01:45:18.140 Yes.

01:45:18.500 Thing because we're so sick of

01:45:19.620 everybody in our business.

01:45:20.400 In fact, I think that that's

01:45:21.420 actually the strongest pitch that

01:45:22.500 conservatives can make right now to

01:45:23.640 people on the left is not come on

01:45:25.180 over here and join us on the Trump

01:45:26.220 train.

01:45:26.660 I agree.

01:45:27.120 You hate Trump.

01:45:27.920 OK, well, I hated Obama.

01:45:28.860 I thought he was terrible.

01:45:30.260 Well, I have a solution for all of

01:45:31.620 this, which is how about we just take

01:45:32.820 the power away from everyone in

01:45:33.860 Washington, D.C.

01:45:34.520 and then you don't have to care who's

01:45:36.000 the president.

01:45:36.440 He's just some guy who lives in a

01:45:37.340 house.

01:45:37.660 And we're not going to change your

01:45:38.900 life.

01:45:39.260 You live what you like.

01:45:40.240 Don't change how I live my life.

01:45:41.720 Let's just live side by side.

01:45:44.140 I think there is a real case to be

01:45:46.540 made.

01:45:46.800 I think that's what's going to come out of

01:45:48.620 this.

01:45:49.420 I was just in I was in Hollywood of

01:45:51.580 all places all last week.

01:45:54.420 And I met with group after group

01:45:57.900 after group.

01:45:58.620 Some of them were hardened.

01:46:00.900 At least one in each group of the

01:46:03.400 probably 10 meetings that I had.

01:46:05.440 At least one was hardened against me

01:46:08.840 when I first walked in.

01:46:10.560 And it became a joke of the team that

01:46:13.760 was going with me because they were

01:46:15.860 like, how long before they turn?

01:46:17.420 How long before they turn?

01:46:19.520 Turned every single one of them

01:46:21.660 because of Jonathan Haidt actually

01:46:24.100 used his method of talking their

01:46:26.460 language, speaking reason, being

01:46:29.520 humble, friendly, likable, laugh,

01:46:33.180 laugh at yourself, laugh at the other

01:46:35.080 side.

01:46:36.340 Immediately turn.

01:46:37.620 I had huge liberals come to me and

01:46:40.900 say, I am more afraid of the left

01:46:44.320 than I am of your side now because of

01:46:48.960 what's happening on college campuses.

01:46:51.000 This is the kind of round people up

01:46:54.300 and it's usually Jews.

01:46:56.660 You know, they were the they were the

01:46:57.680 liberal Jews that were saying these

01:46:59.460 kinds of things to me.

01:47:00.700 I think the the political situation

01:47:02.660 right now, it's it's sort of a game of

01:47:04.080 ping pong.

01:47:04.600 And eventually the the people are just

01:47:07.820 going to get tired of bouncing between

01:47:10.060 the two polar extremes, between the

01:47:12.480 Bernie Sanders left and the Black

01:47:14.180 Lives Matter left and the, you know,

01:47:16.620 hardcore.

01:47:17.520 Do you think that there's enough

01:47:18.860 Democrats that are still out there

01:47:21.000 that say, I don't want Bernie Sanders

01:47:22.440 because the Democrats are moving

01:47:23.700 towards that kind of a.

01:47:25.480 I think they are.

01:47:26.060 Well, I think Bernie Sanders is an

01:47:27.500 interesting case because Sanders is

01:47:28.820 smart enough to actually not play the

01:47:30.360 intersectional game as much as he

01:47:31.820 plays the socialist game.

01:47:32.980 So he's actually a more unifying

01:47:34.380 figure for Americans than Kamala

01:47:36.560 Harris, for example.

01:47:37.280 Yes.

01:47:37.840 And so Sanders is actually the great

01:47:40.540 danger from the Democrats is coming.

01:47:42.180 I agree with the hard left of the

01:47:43.680 Democratic Party, who's Bernie

01:47:44.560 Sanders, that the actual future of

01:47:46.220 the Democratic Party and their

01:47:47.560 victory is going to lie with people

01:47:48.780 like Bernie Sanders and not with

01:47:50.440 not with this separate people by

01:47:52.620 their race and then run on the

01:47:53.820 typical Democratic platform.

01:47:55.280 I mean, I think that it's if

01:47:57.320 Sanders had actually been the

01:47:58.300 nominee, I think there's a much

01:48:00.620 more significant chance that he is

01:48:02.140 president than than Hillary.

01:48:03.540 I think he probably wins Michigan

01:48:04.780 pretty easily.

01:48:05.580 I agree.

01:48:05.900 So it's you know, that's the

01:48:07.760 danger.

01:48:08.360 I agree.

01:48:08.820 But that's not just because of his

01:48:10.500 ideas.

01:48:10.940 It's because he it's because he has

01:48:13.840 steadfastly refused to engage in

01:48:16.900 some of the game.

01:48:18.120 Exactly.

01:48:18.800 He's not playing the game.

01:48:19.360 That's right.

01:48:19.720 Yeah.

01:48:19.940 Let me do one more without no

01:48:21.020 politics at all here.

01:48:21.820 I'm fascinated by by something that

01:48:23.740 you've done recently, which is I

01:48:25.220 just I just took my kid to hit the

01:48:26.860 first our first baseball game.

01:48:28.120 He's five.

01:48:29.180 I'm indoctrinating him to be a

01:48:30.660 Toronto Blue Jays fan for

01:48:32.140 absolutely no that's right.

01:48:33.460 Explainable reason.

01:48:34.100 But you actually just wrote a

01:48:35.920 book about your experience going

01:48:38.100 through the 2005 White Sox

01:48:39.840 championship.

01:48:40.600 How did that come about?

01:48:41.280 That's really I think that's a

01:48:42.100 fascinating thing.

01:48:42.800 Yes.

01:48:42.940 My dad and I are huge White Sox

01:48:44.400 fans.

01:48:44.660 I picked up on my dad's sports

01:48:45.720 allegiances.

01:48:46.260 So he's from Chicago.

01:48:47.240 My mom's from Chicago.

01:48:48.020 I was born in L.A.

01:48:49.000 So that means I've never really

01:48:49.960 been to a home game.

01:48:50.720 I've just been to visiting games.

01:48:52.280 And and so we're huge White Sox

01:48:54.540 fans.

01:48:55.300 And in 2005, I was at Harvard Law

01:48:57.700 and and it was kind of a rough

01:49:00.040 year.

01:49:00.300 And he's having a rough year.

01:49:01.220 And so we just decided we're

01:49:02.260 going to watch every White Sox

01:49:03.260 game.

01:49:04.040 So between the two of us, we

01:49:04.960 watched every White Sox game

01:49:06.060 that season and they ended up

01:49:07.340 winning the World Series.

01:49:08.440 And so we wrote this book where

01:49:09.620 we have the book is us writing

01:49:11.140 notes to each other.

01:49:12.060 How are you doing?

01:49:13.060 And we just compiled all of that

01:49:14.340 into into a book.

01:49:15.640 So we took notes on the games and

01:49:16.860 then see, I wrote you about that

01:49:17.980 and you said it's a sports book.

01:49:19.280 So really, no big deal.

01:49:20.780 That's not a sports book.

01:49:21.660 That's a dad.

01:49:22.640 And yeah, that's a father and

01:49:23.960 son book.

01:49:24.720 Oh, yeah.

01:49:25.060 I mean, it's a lot of fun.

01:49:28.240 It is.

01:49:28.900 If you're a baseball fan, you'll

01:49:29.720 get a lot more out of it.

01:49:30.500 There is a lot of baseball.

01:49:31.620 I mean, we do love baseball.

01:49:32.820 So there's a lot of baseball in

01:49:33.780 there.

01:49:34.220 But yeah, it's it's my dad

01:49:35.520 telling stories about his dad

01:49:36.720 and me and my dad interrelating.

01:49:38.460 And so that's what's the name

01:49:39.180 of the book.

01:49:39.600 It's called Say It So.

01:49:40.800 OK, Ben Shapiro.

01:49:43.880 He'll be on with us.

01:49:45.080 I think we're doing a Facebook

01:49:45.960 thing and we're so thrilled to

01:49:48.280 have you and and really keep up

01:49:50.700 the good work.

01:49:51.300 As I say, it's an honor and a

01:49:52.140 pleasure to be with you.

01:49:52.720 Always.

01:49:52.900 Thank you.

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The Glenn Beck Program - July 06, 2017

7⧸6⧸17 - This Is What Happens To Socialized Health Care？ (Ben Shapiro Joins Glenn)

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