8⧸30⧸17 - Be a human being first, a political animal last (Jason Buttrill from The Blaze & Jeff Mudgett join Glenn)
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1 hour and 53 minutes
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155.33784
Summary
A Black MMA fighter saves a Confederate flag from a flood victim in Houston, Texas. The media has no perspective on this, and it's time to get a grip and let it go. Glenn Beck gives his perspective on it.
Transcript
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There is desperate need for perspective in this country,
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First of all, black MMA fighter, his name is Derek Lewis.
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He went out and he was saving Houston flood victims,
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including a man who insisted on saving his Confederate flag.
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He's saving the guy because that's what Americans do.
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I mean, if it was Robert E. Lee's flag, his actual flag,
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But if it's the one you had hanging in the window of your house,
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then probably, probably, probably you should let the flag go.
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And I know this is a rhetorical question because I know the answer.
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Is the media, is their life really this shallow?
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You've seen the uproar started by Politico on Melania Trump
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I've been around women all my life and I don't understand the whole heel thing.
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Because to me, all you ever hear is, I can't wait to take these shoes off.
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But I'm having to listen to you all night talk about how much your feet hurt.
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Look at Melania Trump walking through the grass in five-inch stiletto heels
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at the White House lawn going to the helicopter and she doesn't get stuck.
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I mean, I've been around all the wrong women, I think.
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Look at how inappropriate she was when she went down to Corpus Christi in Galveston.
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Does anybody really think that the president was going to get his, you know, shoes or his pant legs wet?
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Does anybody think that the president was going to go on a rescue boat and Melania Trump was going to do that?
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Does anybody even think, I mean, you could make the case that the president shouldn't have gone
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if it hurt the rescue efforts, but it didn't because he didn't go anywhere near Houston, for the love of Pete.
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There's some really amazing things that are going on.
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The Texas teenagers that have saved over 50 people in a small fishing boat.
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The mattress shop owner that has thrown his store open to 400 victims of Hurricane Harvey.
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On a personal note, I just got a note from Mercury One.
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And I don't even know if I'm supposed to mention this.
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So they're not the people that like it when I mention things like this.
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They've donated yesterday 1,000 cases of two-week emergency food supplies.
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And they're also supplying 2,500 water filtration units to be deployed in Houston.
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And this is the kind of stuff that you could actually take that flood water and purify it and drink it.
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You know, people don't realize how when water goes bad, you die.
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And, you know, that was I think the number two killer.
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You would, you know, somebody would be pooping or peeing or dying in the water, you know, up the river.
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And then you would drink it and your water was tainted and people died all the time.
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This is going to be a nightmare for a long time.
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Because once the water recedes, Houston never dries out.
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It's the only place I've ever lived that has something called super saturation.
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Where somehow or another, it's like the water has a humidity...
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Walking out in Houston a lot of the times of the year is like you're drowning.
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You see, a glass of air would be a lot of water in that air.
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But anyway, that city is never going to dry out.
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I mean, how many neighborhoods and how many buildings are going to need...
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You remember the building next door to the World Trade Center?
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It was a big, huge brick building, maybe 20 stories tall.
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And they had to seal it in plastic and take it apart by hand.
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It became one of the most hazardous buildings in the Western Hemisphere.
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And it was right next to the World Trade Center.
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They had to take it apart in spacesuits by hand.
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What is the city of Houston going to be like after this?
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Yeah, they said the average hurricane that's category 3 or 4 costs about $4 billion.
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So over 10 times the average hurricane that hits.
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And not to mention, I mean, it's not like it's going to stop raining.
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I mean, like, you know, at some point they're going to start getting more rain again.
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I mean, when you have a situation like this and it just starts raining again.
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How do you go back when you're dealing with a city of...
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How many of the 7 million are actually affected in their homes?
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So I don't know if that's true, but a million homes.
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Let's see if we can get somebody in the research department to look this up this morning.
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And by the way, America's largest oil refinery just shut down yesterday.
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That now is 20% of all gasoline is now offline.
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Those wishing for the oil industry to be hard hit in this crisis.
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Yeah, here in Texas, they're expecting by, what, I think tomorrow, they're expecting it to be $3 a gallon.
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It was already up $0.19.20 this morning, last night.
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So, they're thinking in Texas, it'll be up $3 a gallon.
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So, you know, this is going to affect the entire country.
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And gasoline goes, I don't know if the Young Turks have done the math,
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but the food that's delivered to your grocery store comes in a big truck.
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Or it comes on a train, and that choo-choo doesn't use coal.
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It uses diesel, which is made out of oil, which is made in a refinery.
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Now, in the next few days, once we get past all of this,
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I'm going to spend some time with you on the ramifications of this hurricane.
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This is the largest, most impactful hurricane in history.
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As you're looking at this, I want you to understand the downstream, if you will,
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that will impact not only you, but I can guarantee you Vladimir Putin
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is getting a briefing every day on what is happening in Houston.
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And not because it's some evil, sinister plot or anything else,
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but because Vladimir Putin's country was geared for $100 a barrel of oil.
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but they've got to get the price of the barrel of oil up.
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The lower the cost of oil, the better our system runs.
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The higher the cost of oil, once we get over $100,
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our economy, the way we've structured our house loans and our credit cards
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once it's over $100 a barrel, it starts to hurt the U.S.
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A sustained $120, $130 a barrel collapses our economy.
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We had all kinds of stuff that required everything to remain exactly the same
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Well, as soon as gas prices started to creep up,
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When gas prices go down and they're hovering around $50,
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But we've taken 20% of the refinement of that oil offline.
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All of the barrels that we are purchasing now begin to back up.
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Now they're going to sit on ships somewhere in the Gulf or off coasts,
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and they're going to sit there until there is an opening for that oil
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which means people in the Middle East and in Russia will become more desperate.
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you will see over the next few days as we start to line this up,
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and I hope to be able to really give you some in-depth analysis on this beginning next week,
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you will see the ramifications of what is happening in Texas
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forget about the companies and the politicians and everything else,
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Americans are still the people we grew up believing we were.
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We'll give you more on that coming up in just a second.
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This is the kind of stuff that is happening without us even being aware.
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you have stepped to the plate in an unbelievable way.
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Over $500,000 was raised just on yesterday's program,
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This is going to be something that goes for a very, very, very long time,
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and I think it is going to have a chain reaction that you're going to probably feel in your community.
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And I am humbled by what you have already done and how many people are just giving like $5.
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I mean, people, and we're going to talk to Jason, who was down yesterday in Houston.
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He said he could not believe the number of people who were driving their own personal cars
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and bringing their boats from all over the country.
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And as they were leaving, they were like, buy car.
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They just knew they were never going to see their car again.
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And Jason almost got stuck a couple of times because they're driving around,
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and they're trying to find a place to launch the boats.
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But the water is coming in so fast that the cars are, you know,
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when they drive down a street, if they can't launch it there,
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by the time they were turning around to try to get out the same way, they were blocked.
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I mean, they almost got trapped yesterday, just, you know, they didn't have a boat.
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They're like, we're going to be asking them to rescue us.
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And we also need your help on communication devices,
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because the satellite phones that we dispatched yesterday,
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We really need your support to be able just to communicate.
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You have to remember, the waters were receding with Katrina really quickly.
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And you were able to go, by this time, they were going door to door,
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and they were spray painting X's and numbers on doors of how many people were dead in those homes.
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and we really need your support at mercuryone.org.
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We are trying to be as transparent as we possibly can be,
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I'll give you an update on what was happening yesterday.
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But we have, I think it's Project Barbecue yesterday,
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The convention center, they're the ones that are going to be supplying 25,000 meals a day.
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Last night, they finally were able to fire things up.
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we have offered when they're done, they can come back and stage here.
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There's plenty of room in the parking lot to stay.
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breakfast, lunch, and dinner at that one location.
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If you can help us, five bucks makes a world of difference.
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after the woman tried to carry her child to safety
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A witness saw the woman take her 18-month-old daughter
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next to the parking lot swept both of them away.
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caught up with him about a half mile downstream.
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it makes stories about politics grotesque, doesn't it?
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there's no one to help sort things through anymore.
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will and um he was down and saw the things that um
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insurance company would give them the uh insurance
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in case of a flood or a washout or whatever so no
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federal government hey we want to be able to back
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homes the program already owes the u.s treasury
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estimates for wind damage alone and remember wind was
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not the problem in houston the initial estimates for wind
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damage alone insurance claims they believe will
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yesterday fanny may everybody's favorite mortgage
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company owned by you the federal government and
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the taxpayer fanny may said that more than 36 000
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homes with mortgages guaranteed by you the taxpayer are in areas
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heavily affected by harvey they believe that they have 5.1
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billion dollars in unpaid balances on the homes that are most likely going to
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have to be bulldozed well don't worry the bank will get the insurance money
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oh well first of all it's not a bank it is the federal government
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playing bank so they'll lose their money no they won't because they'll be
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covered by insurance and the insurance company is you
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the ramifications of this the dominoes that could fall
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next week i will start to talk to you about why
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anyone who is saying good these oil companies they're gonna get theirs
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20 percent of the refinery load now has the yesterday the the country's
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less of the oil every single day to turn it into gasoline
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gas was 220 they say by tomorrow or the next day
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it will be at three dollars what's happening to the gas prices
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in your town what's happening to the gas prices all around the country
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it's happening because 20 percent of the refineries that take oil
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and make it into gasoline are now offline and we don't know when they're
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but here's another thing that nobody is explaining to anybody
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that's going to cause the price of oil to go through the floor
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because oil is the raw material and we have plenty of that raw material
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that we already bought last week it's on ships it's still arriving
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it's been sitting out on the coast on these giant oil tankers
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waiting to come in to the port to offload to the refinery
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but there's no place to offload because the refineries aren't refining any of it
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which means that we won't need to buy oil for a while
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until we can get those oil refineries back online
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good for america price of oil through the floor
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but if it's down 40 50 it could go as low as 30 dollars per barrel
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that's not good for the middle east and that's certainly not good for vladimir putin
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these are the kinds of things that we're going to be looking into
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and we're going to be following because you need to understand
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of what does what what is really affected and what's going to actually affect me
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we're going to try to do everything we can to keep your heart
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this one comes in from twitter at world of stew
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i was disappointed jeffy didn't go cover the storm
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who is a head writer researcher for the glenbeck program
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so we we didn't expect to have to actually maneuver
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you follow us convoy down to the actual boat put-in area
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we were so we started going down towards katie texas
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which was the hardest hit area at that time yesterday
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find uh the book bloodstains bloodstainsthebook.com
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jack the ripper this is what i used to do for a
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initial response that everyone has glenn when a
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um but i started looking into the evidence with
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doubt i even gave a ted talk about holmes being
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jack the ripper oh i have to watch that and we put
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that we put the vote the audience to a vote i swore
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them in as a as my jury and we came out with 77
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percent guilty so it's so give me give me give me
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foot seven inch 150 pound 25 to 35 year old american
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remarkable resemblance to the composite drawings
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our suspect is a proven killer whose mo matches
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subsequent jtr-like killings in chicago and new york
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he was a remarkable writer with an intricate knowledge of how major media
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which in the opinions of expert english linguists
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english i that is enough if holmes were alive today glenn
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we could go down and get a warrant for his arrest to have him stand trial for the
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murders of katherine eddowes and elizabeth stride
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do we have any evidence that he was there in england that he had ever traveled abroad
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yeah during the show my my co-host amaryllis fox who was ex-cia trained
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she went down and researched the passenger lists and found two or three with
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one with the holmes name which was an alias which is hard to establish as
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as direct evidence and then two other aliases that he likely used on the trip back
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we also have a letter from holmes to his lawyer
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stating that he was irritated with london because he could not
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and that letter was referring to at the same time when jack the ripper was there
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no it's a different time but we had already established that holmes had made
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it's at glenn as you know when you're dealing with jack the ripper and 130 year
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old crimes yeah if we if you and i went back in a
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time machine hg wells time machine and we filmed
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holmes murdering one of the victims we got blood we had dna we brought
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we brought fingerprints back the ripper ologist would still doubt my theories
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and that's something that's hard to get around when you deal with jack the
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ripper although i think the show had a number of revelations including the fact
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that we've now proven that the dear boss and saucy jack
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postcard were not hoaxes as history has stated for over a century
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what's an english lancet and what role did that play in your work
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i'm not an expert on surgical tools i know those are those dealt with blood
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letting of a victim i'm not sure it's one of the artifacts that you found
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uh during the you know the american ripper that linked jack the ripper and hh holmes
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it was called a lancet so i don't know the tools you're talking about were found
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uh we when we went to indianapolis the site where holmes murdered one of his
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partner's uh young children a horrible death we found uh we had a
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some people come up with a box of holmes artifacts and inside those
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inside that box of these artifacts was a lancet
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from london which was a surgical tool okay when we come back they just dug his
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body up and what they found inside the concrete crypt
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jeff mudgett is with us the great grandson of hh holmes
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uh he has written a book called bloodstains you can find it bloodstains the book
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his great great grandfather uh was america's first serial killer he is
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the guy they literally coined the term psychopath uh for
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um they didn't know how to describe him people couldn't get their arms around him
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you know i haven't thought of this jeff but i know you have
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is can you compare him to anyone in american history i mean
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i mean i wouldn't even put him in with jeffrey dahmer he's he's much more um
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yeah he gets into the into the the leaders of history that we consider evil
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the hitlers and those the only difference is i don't know if
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made orders for those to do it herman enjoyed murdering himself he when he was
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a teenager in new york kids started to disappear they they
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they thought later that he had murdered his best friend by pushing i think if i
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posed his body and watched him die um and that's what started this whole thing
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yeah that we tried to go back and research his childhood you know in new
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dig up any um direct evidence in order to make a you know a statement
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regarding when he first started murdering although
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the legend from the time as you state many many people associated with herman went
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marrying people and uh you know they he would he would they would you know
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disappear he would murder their children um he went to chicago he built this house
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of horrors during the world's fair um and that's really kind of where it
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became untangled you in your book bloodstains um you say that here's the
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you know not conclusive evidence but some pretty good circumstantial evidence that
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he was jack the ripper he comes back from london he's um it was that
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before um he had started building anything in chicago around the same time what can
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you line that up for me yeah that was before and the interesting
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part about that glenn is scotland yard followed him back across the atlantic and
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actually researched ripper style murders in new york and were interested in
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similar style killings in chicago but i believe didn't have the budget to continue
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their investigation so what we did on the show was to hire a chicago detective who
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tracked down all the murders at the time and as you stated in your in your
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narration hundreds went missing during that time yeah and lo and behold as soon
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as herman was back in chicago ripper style killings went through the roof and then
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when he was arrested finally they stopped and it what's um if you missed if you
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don't know who this guy is tonight uh on the blaze at 7 p.m we're rerunning an
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episode of his story it is the story of america's first serial killer and it is
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mind-boggling um and you don't want to miss it i don't recommend you watch it with
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your children um maybe your teenagers but your children your little children will
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be freaked out of their mind because it is it's an amazing story um so he's in
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chicago while he's in chicago he is actually looking for other places he
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actually has a tie to fort worth um you know where our studios are we're in
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dallas fort worth he was going to build a second hotel down here but they the
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texans kind of caught on to him right yeah herman you're right he was going to
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build a second a bigger murder castle except that herman's cons were finally
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catching up with him right and he his assistants were starting to get jealous
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of the money he had that he wasn't sharing with them they were also beginning
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to grow scared of the fact that if you cross herman you ended up missing yeah and
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and you know that can only go on so long even with uh assistants that you consider
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uh very loyal so uh it caught up with herman and he was arrested for quote unquote
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stealing a horse in texas wow so it was actually insurance investigators that
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eventually nailed him on the murders right they were following um i can't
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remember exactly you'll have to forgive me it's been over a year since i've i've
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gone through the story again but wasn't it an insurance guy who was like wait a
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minute this this scam is repeating itself and uh and and they seem to be tied to
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him is that right is that how he got caught finally that's absolutely correct
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he was the master of insurance fraud he started out blend by using skeletons they
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they would call them resurrectionists he would dig them up he would change their
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facial structures so that it couldn't be identified and then he would turn them
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into insurance company and collect the often as much as ten thousand dollar
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check and he grew tired of the digging up graves in the middle of the night and he
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turned to murder more often so he's arrested he goes to prison in
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philadelphia what was his prison time like was he was he popular was he like
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jeffrey dahmer who have you know eventually was shivved um was he remorseful what
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what happened to him in prison oh wonderful question during the show we
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actually um interviewed the superintendent of one of the historical prisons in
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philadelphia now and and she shocked us by explaining how holmes ran the show when
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he was in prison he had his jail cell the doors were open he had reporters seeing
01:42:17.620
him every day he had a desk with his clothes hung up on the on the walls much
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so you believe if i'm not mistaken you believe that he was not actually he never paid for his crimes that
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he pulled a body double at the end and uh it was not him hanging by the neck there was no
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um he was wearing a hood but i think that's the way they all were hung at the time maybe i'm wrong on
01:42:45.500
that um he he said that he didn't want an autopsy on his body that was honored and he was he was buried
01:42:53.120
weirdly and it was honored as well can you take me through what you think actually happened to him
01:42:59.180
i think you've explained it accurately i and there aren't many that joined me in this theory but i
01:43:07.200
believe he escaped execution and another was buried in his place and i was hoping with american ripper
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in the final episode last night that we would be able to answer that question definitively and
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quite frankly i'm still i'm still questioning what we found and how that matches up with the evidence
01:43:28.980
i have that it wasn't holmes okay so show me tell me what you found you dig him up he's your
01:43:34.800
great-grandfather you dig him up you want to have dna testing he was he was buried in this
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sarcophagus this giant heavy concrete sarcophagus which he said i want to be buried specifically
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between two plots and holy cross cemetery um in a concrete encasing he wanted that because he didn't
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want anybody to dig up his body and do to him what he had done to others that's the story
01:44:00.540
is that true and what did you find when you opened the when you opened the uh sarcophagus
01:44:07.300
all right we had some archaeologists and anthropologists from the university of pennsylvania
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doing the dig all scientific the judge that allowed my request for the exhumation demanded that it be done
01:44:19.820
not as a media circus but in the interest of history so we opened it up we took his remains to the
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university where these archaeologists set them all out for us and quite frankly my first impression
01:44:35.320
of the skeleton glenn was that this wasn't holmes this this was a strange looking human being on the
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table when all of the reporters had written story after story about what an elegant handsome
01:44:48.300
man holmes was that could seduce the ladies at his trial even yeah but i mean his body but he i mean
01:44:55.280
i would imagine he didn't look beautiful after being dead for over 100 years how do you how do you
01:45:00.040
mean you it didn't look right i mean what were you noticing well last night you could the archaeologist
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discusses that the skeleton is too short to be holmes and that the bone structure represented this
01:45:12.040
muscular mass which wasn't holmes at all so they went with dental records glenn which matched
01:45:21.060
those of the physical given to quote unquote holmes before the execution by the prison physician
01:45:27.940
and what i've tried to raise over and over again was that wasn't holmes who was examined by the physician
01:45:36.120
and those those dental records don't match for a reason it wasn't him as a matter of fact that the physician
01:45:42.720
in his juma report states wait a minute wait a minute when he walks into the cell his quote is this isn't the
01:45:49.440
guy that's in the papers and the pictures this isn't him that's what the physician said glenn so i i tell
01:45:55.900
you what the mystery hasn't been solved yet have you have you done a dna test could you not i mean you
01:46:02.520
should be able to see if your dna is his dna the dna test was done it was sent to a laboratory in
01:46:10.280
london they're one of three in the world that can do ancient dna like we needed
01:46:15.400
uh in my opinion it's inconclusive uh history believes it was conclusive that's why they ended
01:46:22.540
the show last night as they did so uh well i'm gonna try to convince them into continuing the
01:46:29.320
series maybe with a two-hour special so that i can sit down with someone like you or maybe bill
01:46:34.480
o'reilly but we need to talk through the evidence piece by piece yeah and see see if we can answer it
01:46:40.340
well i'm fascinated by his story i'd love to help you in any way even if it is just matching up with bill
01:46:44.860
o'reilly because i i am fascinated by this story um uh the skull still contained brains is that unusual
01:46:54.260
for a body this old one of the scariest moments of my entire life glenn and they didn't show it last
01:47:03.300
night for reasons i've still i tried to get them to explain this morning but at the university i i took
01:47:08.940
the skull in my hand much like hamlet the scene from hamlet looked into the eyes and as i rolled
01:47:16.120
the skull in my hand it flopped in my hand and i was lucky i was lucky not to drop it to break the
01:47:23.960
skull to tell you the truth i grabbed the scientist by the collar and pulled her over and said whoa whoa
01:47:29.420
whoa wait what's flopping in my hand she goes there's nothing flopping in your hand and i said yes
01:47:34.480
there is here you try and it flopped in her hand she looked inside his brain was still intact glenn after
01:47:40.720
121 years any idea why no i asked her she had no idea why
01:47:48.220
this is bizarre the home the home's mystery continues weird wow you ever feel is this a blessing or curse
01:47:59.980
for you you know i used to think it was a curse glenn but now that i get the opportunity to go on great
01:48:08.900
shows like yours and explain to the world that that if we do this right we can prevent serial killings
01:48:15.600
in the future i think it's a blessing well that would be a noble noble goal and a great thing that
01:48:22.480
would come out of um of this horror but i i agree with you he was not uh uh he he was he was more
01:48:32.400
than sick and there was something um you know he said he was born with evil in him i believe that to
01:48:39.420
be true but there's also something else uh going on inside of him and if we can figure out anything
01:48:44.540
that would help others uh it would make this a sad story uh and horror story american horror story
01:48:52.540
at least have a happier ending the name of the book is bloodstains it's bloodstainsthebook.com
01:48:59.180
you can find it there you were going to say you know think about that brain preserved at the
01:49:04.800
university of pennsylvania and 50 years from now science expanding to the level where we can look
01:49:10.060
into that to see what he actually was are they preserving his brain yes
01:49:15.400
jeff i would love to meet you sometime because you were just fascinating i'm not sure i want to
01:49:21.920
have dinner with you but i uh you're truly a fascinating guy jeff mudgett the great grandson
01:49:28.260
of h.h holmes thank you so much sir appreciate it hey it's been an honor and like i say your narration
01:49:34.560
of the holmes story was the best i've ever heard can i just ask you and i don't mean this to
01:49:40.040
pile on compliments i'm confused what is it that that you thought was different or that we captured
01:49:45.620
that was different well i'll explain it like this i've read everything that's ever been written about
01:49:52.160
holmes glenn and the way you described it captured the evilness of this man it's not another jeffrey
01:50:00.360
dahmer it's not that yeah it was something more than that and i think you captured it thank you very
01:50:05.580
much i appreciate it jeff um jeff mudgett bloodstains in the book uh or bloodstains the book
01:50:11.120
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this is the glenn beck program mercury this is the glenn beck program so what jeff didn't want to tell
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you is that what they actually found out um that wasn't h.h holmes body h.h holmes there at the very
01:52:36.640
end right before he was hung left the hanging and uh and death industry to go into facial cream
01:52:43.620
yeah and uh it sold a lot of it sold a lot of it became very very and it's the same facial cream now
01:52:49.700
that uh joanna gaines is leaving oh my god actually made out of people's faces i didn't know that
01:52:56.140
really weird yeah this is the glenn beck program mercury