America has a serious problem, and here it is. We don t even know who we are. Even worse, we don't even care that we don t know. In a nation where you have to go to school by law, we have less of an excuse than any previous generation for not knowing the basic mechanics of our government.
00:04:23.680Well, nothing intentionally, but a whole buttload of stuff unintentionally.
00:04:30.680We now have the radical right and the radical left and the media only wants to pay attention to the radical right and the right media only wants to pay attention to the radical left.
00:04:46.720That leaves, I believe, about 80% of the population saying, I don't want anything to do with any of these guys.
00:07:01.500Afghanistan, Colombia, El Salvador, Iraq, Somalia, Sudan.
00:07:04.700And he came home and last March, he said, what I'm seeing happening here is what happens all around the world.
00:07:14.560I can't believe what I have been studying and watching and helping hold hands through revolution and civil war all throughout the world is now coming home in my country.
00:07:26.740And he said he believes there's a 60% chance of civil war over the next 10 to 15 years.
00:07:33.420Other experts have said there's a 5% to 95% chance.
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00:17:44.840There were there was something called the shock of events.
00:17:49.040Just gigantic events that happened that the country was not good at absorbing.
00:17:54.880That they there's just these huge shocks and it forced everybody to to reposition themselves and reposition themselves in ways they didn't see necessarily coming.
00:18:09.360The Fugitive Slave Act, the Dred Scott decision, the John Brown raid, the Mexican-American war.
00:18:16.140These things happen and people found that they didn't they couldn't absorb them.
00:18:20.440They couldn't take that shock and it it actually started to pit people against each other.
00:18:27.460Now, how how how the Fugitive Slave Act, the Dred Scott decision.
00:18:34.000How how is that possible that you don't know what side you're on?
00:18:38.340Because while most people in the South were not for slavery, most people in the South were not slave owners.
00:18:45.840The vast majority were not slave owners had nothing to do with slavery.
00:18:49.920It had been positioned as a North versus South.
00:18:55.160They're coming after your rights by whom?
00:18:58.020By politicians, by people who wanted power, by people who were making money off of the backs of slaves and did everything they could to convince you or to convince the South that they're coming after because they don't like you because they want to see a way an end of our way of life.
00:23:15.560Foreman was just asked about what he thought about Kaepernick, Kaepernick and what was going on in the NFL.
00:23:22.980You know, the shame part of it, all of us, including Joe Frazier, myself, and a few more, even to this day, we became the heavyweight champ of the world.
00:23:32.360And we actually thought we would turn into Muhammad Ali.
00:23:35.140We didn't realize just because you're a champion, you don't become Muhammad Ali.
00:23:40.080So a lot of us started doing things to get some attention so people would praise us or hate us or talk about us like they did Muhammad Ali.
00:25:30.660If I gave you 20 minutes of airtime, could you come up and fill those 20 minutes of airtime with all the things that you've been up against?
00:25:37.180Can you come up with 20 minutes of stuff that is like, man, I didn't make it because of X, Y, and Z?
00:32:19.360If you remember the, the Kate McKinnon take of her on Saturday Night Live, the impression of her was really accurate as to what her problem was.
00:32:28.060Her problem was, she was constantly calculating, constantly trying to say whatever she had to say to bring a few more votes through that door.
00:32:35.880And it winds up being so inauthentic to the average person.
00:34:38.740If she doesn't like him, doesn't matter.
00:34:40.720There is that point, however, when you cross over from smells from fried foods to manure and back that borderline, that line of demarcation is not positive.
00:38:20.360This is the problem with big government.
00:38:22.520Trump announced that he might rescind DACA, the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program.
00:38:31.060Since that time, there's a growing fear on the left that the information collected under this program might be used to find DACA recipients and deport them.
00:38:39.340Or worse now, according to Nancy Pelosi.
00:38:42.420There are 800,000 illegal immigrants who applied for temporary protection under the DACA program.
00:38:47.540They gave the government a ton of personal information, where they live, where they work, where they went to school.
00:38:52.340They gave them their photographs and fingerprints.
00:39:05.400And this is the way it happens when there is a wild swing of power and you swing away from the Constitution, either right or left, doesn't matter.
00:39:14.480Power changes between the major parties, and that happens on a regular basis, and it's going to continue to happen unless we go into a new system.
00:39:24.740But for those who have preached that the government should not be entrusted or given access to your personal information, it's easy to say, I told you so.
00:39:33.980But my better angels tell me this is an opportunity for all of us to learn, because there are people on the right who don't get it either.
00:39:41.940They are allowing the government to grow under their guy.
00:39:48.120There is a reason for separate but equal branches of the government.
00:39:52.360There is a reason for checks and balances.
00:39:55.360There is a reason we don't concentrate power.
00:39:59.180And there is a reason for healthy skepticism of our government.
00:40:05.080Because all you have to do is say, okay, my guy has it.
00:42:33.840You woke up one morning and you said, this is bad and I'm going to do something about it.
00:42:37.040The thing that was the tipping point for us was I woke up one day and opened Twitter and there were a whole bunch of screenshots of some of the people behind the site saying Cloudflare actually supports us and the upper echelons of their leadership are white nationalists.
00:43:01.080But what it had become was such a distraction that we couldn't have the really important conversation about what role should Cloudflare be playing in regulating the Internet.
00:43:12.740And so I am deeply concerned that I had the authority and the power to wake up one morning and say, you know what?
00:43:58.760Well, what I was left with was a few things.
00:44:01.900I mean, I don't like to ever use the phrase free speech fundamentalist because I don't like to associate the word fundamentalism with free speech.
00:44:08.500But I am somebody who is a free speech absolutist.
00:44:12.100Matthew Prince, the CEO of Cloudflare, knew that going in.
00:44:16.880And I told him, look, I understand why you did it.
00:44:24.700And you were just talking about, you know, the expansion of government power.
00:44:29.140You know, we lurch into this area when, you know, companies like Cloudflare and Twitter and Facebook accrue so much power and influence that people say, hey, you know, we really should regulate them like public utilities.
00:44:42.420And I think that Matthew Prince should be able to do what he does.
00:44:45.880And in one clarification, by the way, Cloudflare doesn't host anything.
00:44:49.380Basically, what they do is they protect websites.
00:44:51.140They protect websites from denial of service attacks.
00:44:53.940And for listeners who don't know what that is, is essentially you can hire people, you can do it yourself, to press a button and to flood a website with bad data and to keep it offline.
00:45:03.900So Cloudflare will protect you from that and essentially keep you online.
00:45:06.860So what Matthew Prince did when he removed that protection from the Daily Stormer is he said, you know, you guys can go offline at any minute.
00:45:45.120And the Daily Stormer and one must do the throat clearing thing and say it is the most repugnant website of a series of repugnant fascist websites that harass people, troll people, et cetera.
00:45:59.080But, you know, they can't find a home online at that now.
00:46:02.620And you do get into some sticky territory because when GoDaddy, the enormous company GoDaddy said, you know, you're not going to be on our network.
00:46:10.160GoDaddy was actually not hosting them.
00:46:11.680They were essentially they were a DNS provider.
00:46:14.700And basically what that means is when you type in Daily Stormer into your browser, the DNS provider translates that word into a series of numbers and directs you to it.
00:46:24.320So it's essentially not like, you know, we're not allowing the pedophile to buy a house in our neighborhood.
00:46:28.820It's actually taking them off the map and taking all the street signs down.
00:46:32.560But I have a certain amount of faith in the American people and people everywhere that if they see this stuff, they will be repulsed by it and they won't be convinced by it.
00:46:42.100Only 37 percent of the American people can name their rights protected under the First Amendment.
00:46:49.540What gives you the feeling that when I see people, you know, I have faith the American people are going to stand up against this when when they don't even know what the First Amendment protects?
00:47:22.020Only 37 percent can name any of the rights.
00:47:25.160Well, one of the things that you'll notice recently and it kind of collapses my confidence and people and their kind of understanding of constitutional rights is this idea that exists in Europe that does not exist in the United States, you know, of hate speech.
00:47:41.220Yes, we do have we do have hate crimes.
00:47:43.780And there's a conflation of those things, which I think are also in a way problematic of prosecuting people for the things that are going through their heads when they commit crimes that are already on the statute books.
00:47:53.520But I mean, I routinely talk to people that say that, you know, hate speech.
00:47:58.140We can't have hate speech, which doesn't exist.
00:48:00.680And as you said, you know, in your intro, there is a reason that we have First Amendment protections and most people don't understand this.
00:48:09.120Yes, it is to protect the most loathsome speech that is out there.
00:48:12.560And when we grimace at hearing this stuff, it doesn't mean that, you know, we should take this away because it will influence other people and make them bad people.
00:48:21.600The entire purpose of the First Amendment is to protect the speech of repulsive, knuckle dragging, mouth breathing psychopaths like those who run the Daily Storm.
00:48:55.520Very few people have a different perspective.
00:48:57.320And that's important that we look at things with perspective where it feels too good to say the Nazis and Antifa should be shut down to the average person.
00:49:19.700Yeah, no, it feels great to say the Nazis should be shut down.
00:49:23.620I want them shut down and I want them shut down in debate.
00:49:25.440I don't want them shut down by companies or by the government.
00:49:28.380And what I often hear is comparisons, as I just said, to European countries.
00:49:32.960And I'll give you one that that is actually quite helpful.
00:49:36.260The Germans from, you know, in the denazification process from sort of 1945 and up until I would say, you know, the American occupation ended was a helpful thing.
00:49:47.060And I understand the instinct to ban Nazi symbols, to ban Mein Kampf, to ban Nazi rhetoric and to ban Nazi affiliated parties.
00:49:55.320I mean, they've been trying to ban the NPD, which is a sort of, you know, post-Nazi party for quite a long time.
00:50:01.020And they're pointed to as a success story because you cannot have the Daily Stormer on a network if you are Google in Germany.
00:50:08.860I mean, you have to take it off your search engine.
00:50:10.600After Charlottesville, which, you know, was a couple, three, four hundred idiots raging through Virginia and making a national and international spectacle, a similar Nazi march happened in Berlin that was larger.
00:50:27.500And every year and the anniversary of the bombing of Dresden and on Rudolf Hess's birthday, Germans take certain Germans, fascist Germans take to the streets and they march.
00:50:38.180David Irving's books are banned in in Germany.
00:50:41.560Holocaust denial is banned in Germany.
00:51:07.860And, you know, there I would say there are more Nazis, my guess.
00:51:10.980And I'm just going to say I'm the guest to sort of preface this is that proportionally there are probably more Nazis in all the European countries that ban Nazi propaganda than there are in the United States.
00:51:19.920So Matthew Prince was hiding behind in some regard, hiding behind.
00:51:24.520I mean, he is a private individual in a private company, I think, do have the right to choose who they work with.
00:51:31.600So we're balancing a couple of rights here.
00:51:42.840However, we're entering a time where Google and Facebook in particular, they control so much that, you know, if Google gets up in the morning and says, hey, you know what, we're just not going to be able.
00:51:55.760You're not going to be able to search for vice anymore.
00:51:59.680Depending on who's in power and what's popular, et cetera, et cetera.
00:52:12.280Well, you know, one of the things I once pitched a story and the people at Google gave me a very quick and a very swift no, and I probably should have pitched it in a different way.
00:52:21.640But I noticed that essentially Google around the time of the innocence of Muslims controversy was acting as essentially as a parallel State Department.
00:52:30.440I mean, they are interfacing with foreign governments.
00:52:32.600They are talking about policy and about what stuff that their citizens can see.
00:52:37.280And that gave me, you know, this sort of free speech absolutist, a bit of a chill and somebody also who doesn't want the government involved in this and saying what Google can and cannot do.
00:52:47.400I do not think they're a public utility.
00:52:51.600I mean, if it's a case that there's a monopoly of one Internet provider that is, you know, running the show in an entire city, that's problematic.
00:52:58.140But, you know, there's Yahoo, there's other search engines out there.
00:53:02.020But, yeah, no, there isn't any easy answer to this other than to kick up a lot of, you know, dust when this happens.
00:53:09.840I mean, you notice that the ACLU, for instance, has been pilloried by so many people, I think primarily on the left, for saying that these guys that are, you know, marching in their jackboots and shaved heads through Charlottesville have the right to do that.
00:53:26.800I mean, I think the first battle is, you know, convincing people, as you said, about, you know, understanding constitutional rights, that people do have the right to these opinions and we have a right to debate them and we should debate them.
00:53:38.740I think the biggest problem right now is the fact that, you know, younger people today and people I talk to routinely don't believe that free speech should be an unfettered right.
00:53:49.600They believe it's something that should be qualified if it lurches into the territory, you know, of racism, sexism, homophobia, et cetera.
00:53:58.080That is my bigger concern because I don't see it right now.
00:54:02.300I see, you know, Facebook sort of regulating stuff in their own way.
00:54:06.780But I see a lot of people going away from Facebook.
00:54:08.960I don't think Facebook is going to be the biggest thing in 10 years, much in the way that, you know, Internet Explorer didn't have to be, you know, broken up by the European Union because it was going the way of the dodo.
00:54:17.840So I think the technology changes and I think there's a lot of stuff out there where, you know, people can get this information.
00:54:23.740It's not really going anywhere, but I don't like the mindset.
00:54:27.740That's the thing that bugs me the most is that we really have to get rid of this stuff.
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00:59:40.900I believe that peace lies beyond personality, beyond invention and disguise, beyond the red S that you wear on your chest that makes bullets bounce off.
01:00:46.760I do have a unique perspective on this.
01:00:50.340And there is a reason why I'm concentrating on Jim Carrey, because I think it is something that all of us need to see, because we will see this in our own lives.
01:01:01.160I promise you, we will see this in our own life.
01:01:04.220So here he is almost nihilistic, almost Nietzsche like there is no meaning.
01:01:19.700And a continuation of something that he did last week or the week before he was he was speaking to a bunch of convicts, people that had been incarcerated.
01:01:40.920Uh, and he was doing work with homeboy industries in Los Angeles that serve people who have been incarcerated.
01:01:49.540And I want you to listen to what he said there.
01:01:52.820And I want to speak to, uh, the fact that I believe, uh, that this room is filled with God.
01:02:01.040And, uh, and that you are heroes to me.
01:02:06.680Because when you step through these doors, and you decide to be a part of this family,
01:02:11.300you've made a decision to transcend and to leave darkness behind.
01:02:21.180And it takes a champion to make that decision.
01:02:24.980And, uh, you know, I really want to speak to the fact that I've had some challenges in the last couple of years myself.
01:02:32.540Uh, and, uh, ultimately, I believe that suffering leads to salvation.
01:02:39.040And, uh, in fact, it's the only way that, uh, we have to somehow accept and not deny, but feel our suffering and feel our losses.
01:02:54.280And, uh, and then we make one of two decisions.
01:02:58.940We either decide to go through the gate of resentment, which leads to vengeance, which leads to self-harm,
01:03:06.660which leads to harm to others, or we go through the gate of forgiveness, which leads to grace.
01:03:14.520And, uh, your being here is an indication that you've made that decision already.
01:03:24.440You've made the decision to walk through the gate of forgiveness to grace, just as Christ did on the cross.
01:03:32.220He suffered terribly, and he suffered terribly, and he was broken by it to the point of doubt and a feeling of absolute abandonment, which all of you have felt.
01:03:49.300And, uh, then there was a decision to be made.
01:03:52.680And the decision was to look upon the people who were causing that suffering, or the situation that was causing that suffering,