The Glenn Beck Program - 9⧸19⧸17 - Patience and Complexity' (Duane Wilde, Tristan Harris & Bill O'Reilly join Glenn)

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00:00:10.220 Love. Courage. Truth. Glenn Beck.

00:00:15.640 Like your crazy ex that just won't go away, Russia is back in the news. 0.65

00:00:20.780 Last night, two bombshells in the Russian investigation.

00:00:24.100 Number one, U.S. investigators wiretapped former campaign chairman Paul Manafort under secret FISA court orders before and after the election.

00:00:36.220 This is huge, unprecedented, never been done before.

00:00:40.060 Two, the Mueller prosecutors told Manafort that they had planned to indict him.

00:00:47.340 So let's start here with number one.

00:00:49.020 According to the sources that spoke with CNN, Manafort became the subject of an FBI investigation in 2014 that looked into a number of consulting firms that did work with Ukraine's former ruling party.

00:01:02.200 Manafort is a guy that long before he had anything to do with Donald Trump, we told you about.

00:01:08.360 He was a bad guy and shouldn't be near any presidential politics, no matter which side it was on.

00:01:15.680 The second surveillance warrant came after the government intercepted communications between Manafort and suspected Russian operatives.

00:01:24.920 And number two, on top of investigating Trump associates communications with Russian operatives, Mueller has Manafort under investigation for possible violation of tax laws, money laundering and requirements to disclose foreign lobbying.

00:01:40.060 After the FBI raided Manafort.

00:01:41.060 After the FBI raided Manafort's house, investigators told Manafort that he is going to face criminal charges.

00:01:47.140 So here's what all of this means.

00:01:49.120 If these reports are true, if these reports are true, that level of corruption so close to the president is seriously disturbing,

00:02:03.440 especially since the corruption is tied to the number one geopolitical foe, Russia.

00:02:10.820 I want to make this clear.

00:02:13.260 These reports do not mean Manafort is guilty of anything.

00:02:18.660 At least yet.

00:02:25.440 It's Tuesday, September 19th.

00:02:28.460 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:02:30.140 So we always try to start each hour with something that we think is big news and get it out right away.

00:02:38.520 And we we are making a lot of changes with Glenn Beck dot com and the blaze dot com and everything else.

00:02:45.060 And I'm trying to make things more simple and and also reflective of what you want to talk about.

00:02:52.700 And up at Glenn Beck dot com, they started something yesterday that is going to be out and we're just starting working on.

00:02:59.680 It is a reader's choice.

00:03:01.340 And basically what you get is parts of my show prep.

00:03:04.780 And we ask you, what do you want to talk about?

00:03:08.680 And yesterday, the reader's choice was number one, U.S.

00:03:12.680 government wiretaps former campaign chairman.

00:03:15.400 Number two, North Korea, which we'll get to here in a second.

00:03:19.240 Number three, the U.N. debut.

00:03:21.940 Then Maria, Hurricane Maria.

00:03:24.320 Self-driving cars.

00:03:25.420 Number five.

00:03:26.780 Comey.

00:03:27.320 Did Comey cost Hillary the election distant? 0.99

00:03:30.080 Number six.

00:03:31.220 My question is.

00:03:33.740 Where's the real news, Stu?

00:03:36.500 Where's the real news?

00:03:38.580 Those are all really big stories.

00:03:40.060 Uh, yeah, probably the biggest stories in America today.

00:03:45.360 May I just say I have right here headline doomsday world will end on September 23rd.

00:03:57.400 Yeah.

00:03:58.140 Don't you think that's a pretty big story?

00:03:59.700 That might be bigger than the Manafort story.

00:04:02.300 September 23rd.

00:04:03.700 What's the date?

00:04:04.600 It's September 19th.

00:04:06.060 We have four days to do that.

00:04:07.500 I mean, it's a big story on the 22nd, maybe.

00:04:12.040 Oh, I see.

00:04:12.500 Certainly the 23rd.

00:04:13.260 I would say we definitely lead with it on the 23rd.

00:04:15.900 So have you heard about the September 23rd prediction?

00:04:20.180 I will say Saturday is the 23rd, so we actually will not lead with it on the 23rd.

00:04:23.880 Right.

00:04:24.200 Maybe the 22nd we hit it.

00:04:25.840 Or the 20th.

00:04:28.060 Yeah, we can hit it on the 25th.

00:04:29.620 Yeah, we can hit it on the 25th.

00:04:30.960 How much did you like that apocalypse?

00:04:33.880 Right.

00:04:34.280 So have you heard about this?

00:04:35.260 There's a lot of people that actually really believe September 23rd is a key date in the

00:04:41.720 book of Revelation.

00:04:43.660 Okay.

00:04:44.180 Have you not heard that?

00:04:44.700 What's their evidence here?

00:04:46.320 Is this different than the one, remember the one a few years ago where the guys, I think

00:04:49.920 that was in September too, wasn't it?

00:04:51.620 Where they thought it was going to end and he took out all the ads on the subways in New

00:04:55.200 York and all the trains and he said that the world was going to end.

00:04:59.820 Yeah, well, he was wrong.

00:05:01.160 This time it's right.

00:05:02.440 Oh, okay.

00:05:02.840 So it's based on Revelation 12 and a great sign appeared in heaven, woman clothed with

00:05:10.120 the sun with the moon under her feet and the head of on her crown of 12 stars.

00:05:15.440 She was pregnant and was crying out in birth pangs and the agony of giving birth.

00:05:20.380 So this is what they're saying in the passage.

00:05:22.960 The woman is Virgo on September 23rd, both the sun and the moon will be in Virgo as will

00:05:29.580 the planet Jupiter.

00:05:30.880 However, this occurrence happens naturally every 12 years, but don't don't.

00:05:35.400 This is a rare alignment.

00:05:37.240 Okay, no, but every 12 years like like, you know, it's like there is all but there is also

00:05:43.240 something else called the lion of the tribe of Judah, which is also, you know, a pretty

00:05:54.500 rare occurrence, but they're happening together this time.

00:05:59.600 I mean, your case is almost airtight.

00:06:01.580 Well, that's what I thought.

00:06:02.520 I'm reading this and I'm thinking, how do they how do you not see neither the Roman Catholic 0.86

00:06:08.020 Church, nor the Protestant or Eastern Orthodox sects are endorsing the prediction of the

00:06:12.740 end of the world?

00:06:14.220 None of the people who are following this most closely are endorsing this idea.

00:06:17.480 Yeah, so the problem is, is that Planet X, the so-called Planet X, which is also known

00:06:26.400 as Nibiru, which he believes will pass Earth on September 23rd, causing volcanic eruptions.

00:06:34.320 So a Planet X, which we're, there's a moment of, right, we're going to, we're taking a

00:06:39.140 step there.

00:06:40.480 Then Planet X, then the Planet X, he, he thinks it's passing at that time.

00:06:46.120 This is according to a Christian numerologist, David Mead.

00:06:50.280 The David Mead?

00:06:51.000 Yeah, the David Mead.

00:06:51.860 Why didn't you lead with that?

00:06:52.940 Okay, well, I'm sorry.

00:06:53.880 I thought everybody knew.

00:06:55.140 So anyway, he says the solar eclipse, the hurricanes in the United States, Harvey and Irma are the

00:07:00.880 warning signs that are spoken about in the scriptures, and here they are.

00:07:05.780 Ready?

00:07:06.100 These are the warning signs that we have been waiting for, and we're experiencing them right

00:07:11.100 now.

00:07:11.420 We're four days away from the fundamental transformation of Earth.

00:07:15.960 Of Earth, yes.

00:07:16.500 Okay.

00:07:17.540 There will be signs in the sun, moon, and stars.

00:07:20.080 On the Earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of

00:07:24.600 the sea.

00:07:25.380 People will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for heavenly bodies

00:07:29.980 will be shaken, men's hearts failing them for fear and looking after those things which

00:07:34.680 are coming to Earth, for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

00:07:38.040 So we have most of those.

00:07:39.660 I mean, that's pretty much all.

00:07:41.280 Let's go.

00:07:41.820 I mean, if you go one by one.

00:07:42.860 I mean, we're in anguish from the roaring and the tossing of the seas.

00:07:45.920 Yes.

00:07:45.980 I don't.

00:07:46.400 Yes.

00:07:46.860 Clearly, we had hurricanes.

00:07:49.080 That's never happened.

00:07:51.640 May I just say, then I have really good news for you.

00:07:54.840 I have really, really fantastic news for you.

00:07:57.260 You know how the book of Revelation seems really scary?

00:08:04.260 It does seem kind of scary.

00:08:05.940 Right always has.

00:08:07.860 Hear me out.

00:08:08.360 I have a theory.

00:08:09.280 It's not as, you know, I'm not, what's his name?

00:08:11.640 David Mead.

00:08:12.600 You have to look that up.

00:08:13.240 I know.

00:08:13.700 But I'm not David Mead, but I am a thinker.

00:08:16.260 So hear this out.

00:08:17.480 It always sounds really scary.

00:08:20.080 Like, you know, when they say warning signs of the apocalypse, just the apocalypse sounds

00:08:26.900 pretty bad.

00:08:28.060 The earth will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and the tossing of the sea.

00:08:33.620 Not no, I'm not.

00:08:36.360 I mean, it's bad, but it's not so bad.

00:08:39.320 Or it's the roaring and the tossing of sea, particularly in the last couple of weeks,

00:08:42.900 has been very bad.

00:08:43.860 Yeah, but I'm not.

00:08:44.820 My heart is not about to faint from the roaring and the tossing of the seas.

00:08:49.100 I'm I'm I can't say that I'm about to, quote, faint from terror.

00:08:54.820 Are you?

00:08:55.700 I mean, maybe not over that, but people are.

00:08:58.420 You've raised millions of dollars to help this.

00:09:00.660 There obviously are people dealing with it.

00:09:02.420 So let me just let me from terror from like looking at stairs.

00:09:05.960 Let me.

00:09:06.620 There are reasons you're fainting.

00:09:07.900 Yes.

00:09:08.460 OK, so but let me just let me let me let me phrase it this way.

00:09:12.860 Have you ever gone to a movie where everybody has hyped it for so long?

00:09:18.920 And you're like, it's not that great.

00:09:21.980 Like like episode one of Star Wars, right?

00:09:24.740 No, because that was bad.

00:09:25.940 OK, no, it was it still has to be a pretty good movie.

00:09:28.540 It's one of those movies you go to and everybody has said has been so great and

00:09:31.700 you've heard so much about it.

00:09:32.820 And then you go and you're like, I don't know.

00:09:34.700 It was OK.

00:09:35.320 And it's still a good movie.

00:09:36.880 But what wrecked it was everybody was hyping it.

00:09:39.960 OK, there's a possibility that if this is what is supposed to make us faint from the

00:09:46.140 tossing of the seas, these two hurricanes and a third one coming.

00:09:51.600 If this is what's supposed to make us faint, then this thing's been hyped for 2000 years

00:09:58.820 and we're going to get to the other side of it and Jesus is going to be here and we're

00:10:01.480 going to be like, eh, really wasn't that bad.

00:10:08.960 Almost everybody was hyping this.

00:10:11.760 Well, as it's not I mean, it was a big hurricane, but as an apocalypse, I don't know that it was

00:10:15.900 you know, you have to have when you're talking apocalypse, you have high expectations.

00:10:20.440 You have high expectations when it comes to that.

00:10:26.680 Now, this sound may make me faint from terror if I lived in Japan.

00:10:33.480 This is the sound of North Korea setting off a missile headed for Japan and the air raid

00:10:45.780 sirens go off in Japan.

00:10:47.720 That's what they've been hearing.

00:10:50.580 That means there has been a missile launch.

00:10:53.660 It's headed our way.

00:10:55.300 Imagine because you've only got what a couple of minutes.

00:10:59.100 Imagine what that must feel like.

00:11:01.760 That one is a little bit more, you know, men's hearts will fail them to me.

00:11:11.400 Now, the president is at the UN today.

00:11:13.680 Yesterday, yesterday, when pressed about, you know, the nuclear ambitions, Mattis said

00:11:23.380 yesterday in a press conference that he was asked if there's any military options for dealing

00:11:30.620 with North Korea to protect Seoul.

00:11:33.200 And he said, yes, there are.

00:11:34.780 But I'm not going to go into details when asked if they might include use of lethal force.

00:11:40.520 He said, I don't want to go into that.

00:11:42.200 But if such military options do exist, they're largely new to analysts studying the Korean

00:11:49.680 peninsula.

00:11:51.400 He then says that it it may actually by striking North Korea, it could spare our allies. 0.54

00:12:02.440 May is kind of a that's kind of a important thing.

00:12:12.220 Maybe he's thinking of breaking up with South Korea like he's you know what?

00:12:16.920 We've we were allies for a long time.

00:12:18.480 We had a good run.

00:12:19.220 Right.

00:12:20.260 Honestly, like you're a little naggy. 1.00

00:12:22.640 Yeah.

00:12:22.920 You keep going through my phone.

00:12:24.340 Right.

00:12:24.680 I think it's time to break up.

00:12:26.340 Yeah.

00:12:26.600 Break up.

00:12:27.240 Then it won't hit our allies.

00:12:28.800 So here's the thing that is, I think, the important story of the day.

00:12:32.560 Yes.

00:12:33.160 Yes.

00:12:33.500 The North Korean missile siren.

00:12:35.900 Yada, yada, yada.

00:12:37.960 Yes.

00:12:39.180 Saturday may be the end of the world.

00:12:41.200 Got it.

00:12:42.880 But California is really on.

00:12:45.400 California late last year, someone and I want to make sure that I say someone, someone

00:12:55.020 named star began thinking that it was time for a legal name change.

00:13:01.020 I'm thinking, you know, sure.

00:13:04.300 Teresa might be good. 1.00

00:13:07.220 Sally.

00:13:08.080 Yeah.

00:13:08.840 Star has been going by that name for two years since coming out at the age of 15 to friends

00:13:15.260 and family as a.

00:13:18.580 What?

00:13:19.080 What do you think?

00:13:20.940 As a.

00:13:22.320 As a.

00:13:23.660 I don't think.

00:13:24.340 Come on.

00:13:24.480 Say it with me.

00:13:26.900 Non binary. 0.74

00:13:28.920 Yes.

00:13:29.360 Yes.

00:13:30.000 Okay.

00:13:30.400 Good.

00:13:30.800 I was worried.

00:13:31.420 I was going to say non binary. 0.97

00:13:32.720 I was worried you were going to go somewhere else.

00:13:33.960 15 years old star decided that she is neither a woman nor a man and would not choose the 0.93

00:13:44.640 pronouns him or her.

00:13:46.640 She was a non binary.

00:13:48.620 And so she wanted a.

00:13:51.560 A plural non gendered pronoun for her and she wanted the state to do that. 1.00

00:13:57.840 And so by the time she was 17, the article says stretching to her adulthood, she had she

00:14:08.940 had confronted all of the tedious paperwork in in California who knew there was even paperwork

00:14:15.900 to be filled out if you wanted to register as a non binary.

00:14:19.800 But she had her driver's license with the wrong name on it.

00:14:24.060 Then she began applying to colleges also under the wrong name.

00:14:27.740 And it was a problem.

00:14:30.080 And mostly because star really liked to follow the rules. 0.86

00:14:33.000 And yet every time she had to fill out an official for a form, she star felt fraudulent

00:14:38.280 writing down a name she barely recognized on the rare occasion that she ever heard her

00:14:43.460 name said out loud.

00:14:44.700 She's she's star.

00:14:46.460 I love how the same people who build a giant bureaucracy in which every minor thing involves

00:14:53.700 hours of paperwork, then complain to us about they have to fill out how too many too much

00:14:58.920 paperwork.

00:14:59.620 Yeah, I love that.

00:15:01.080 Uh, non binary is a relatively unknown term.

00:15:05.740 Sure.

00:15:06.660 For bigots and non binary Americans struggle to be taken seriously.

00:15:12.720 I don't think that's my problem.

00:15:14.460 I don't think that is my problem.

00:15:17.280 Um, their identities are questioned.

00:15:20.420 They're told they're either male or female and there's nothing in the middle.

00:15:26.580 Yep.

00:15:27.420 That was the way I think I think I'm going to continue to go there.

00:15:31.020 It almost feels like they're just like it.

00:15:32.740 They're changing this word into something else like gender.

00:15:35.540 Like, you know how the word gay used to mean happy and then it became a an alternative lifestyle

00:15:41.180 as they used to say.

00:15:42.140 Right.

00:15:42.300 I'm not sure if I don't think you can say that anymore.

00:15:44.380 Yeah.

00:15:44.800 Um, but it changed meanings, right?

00:15:46.360 It just became another thing.

00:15:47.680 And it feels like that's what gender is going on. 1.00

00:15:49.780 Like I, like I heard Ellen, Ellen DeGeneres one time explain the whole transgender thing

00:15:55.060 as what you feel like in your head.

00:15:58.080 And I'm not saying something different, right?

00:16:00.020 Like I'm not saying there isn't a word to describe what you feel like in your head.

00:16:04.380 Right.

00:16:04.740 Like that might be an important thing to come up with a word for.

00:16:06.840 But gender already had a meaning.

00:16:08.860 Mm-hmm.

00:16:09.240 So if you want to, if you want to figure out what someone feels like in their head, we

00:16:13.360 can all come together and come up with some way to describe your head feelings.

00:16:17.720 Yeah.

00:16:18.460 But, and sometimes it matches and sometimes it doesn't.

00:16:21.060 And for instance, the feeling I have in my head is fat.

00:16:25.400 And currently that does kind of fit.

00:16:29.520 Fact check.

00:16:30.060 Mostly true.

00:16:31.000 Mostly true.

00:16:32.240 But that doesn't make me less of a man or a woman.

00:16:37.620 And now I could feel like a fat woman, but that isn't necessarily true.

00:16:45.120 That's how I feel.

00:16:47.360 We are in this weird era where facts, like, I don't know, the missile coming across the

00:16:58.920 sky is kind of something that, I don't know, non-binary.

00:17:04.720 Now that's something that we really need to discuss.

00:17:10.100 When you are in a place, again, I said this yesterday, I want to bring you the news that

00:17:16.840 we're not as bad off as everyone.

00:17:19.300 We're not as oppressed.

00:17:20.560 We're not as poor.

00:17:22.440 We're not as broken.

00:17:24.060 We're just not.

00:17:25.320 Because if, while missiles are crossing our horizon, while all of these huge problems are

00:17:34.620 happening, if the big thing we struggle with is, I'm neither male or female, I'm binary,

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00:19:10.940 Glenn Beck.

00:19:16.160 Glenn Beck.

00:19:17.920 There is a revolution going on right now, and most people don't even know that they're

00:19:22.760 fighting it.

00:19:23.360 They don't even know that it is happening right in front of them.

00:19:26.680 And it is a tech revolution, but it's a revolution to control your mind, to control your time.

00:19:36.700 Most websites are built to keep you on the website.

00:19:41.360 The longer they can keep you on the website, the more money they make.

00:19:45.960 And so everybody is trying to come up with ways to keep you on their website.

00:19:50.760 This is something that I've been really wrestling with lately, because I'm trying to design something

00:19:58.080 that is the exact opposite.

00:20:00.000 I'm trying to feed you and get you to go.

00:20:04.220 Just try to give you the most information, the information that you're looking for without

00:20:09.540 any of the hyperbole, without anything that you don't want.

00:20:14.520 And everybody keeps telling me you're going to destroy the business.

00:20:16.980 Well, there is a guy from Google who's an ethicist who has been working on this problem,

00:20:21.800 and it's fascinating.

00:20:23.480 He's coming up in about 30 minutes.

00:20:26.220 Glenn Beck.

00:20:32.720 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:20:35.160 I was on my way back from speaking engagement at the Nantucket Project over the weekend,

00:20:42.260 and Dwayne had posted a comment on my Facebook page.

00:20:46.400 He said,

00:20:46.900 Your program over the last couple of weeks has pushed me out of my comfort zone like you

00:20:50.780 can't imagine.

00:20:52.160 I'm literally writing to you from a bus on the way to Houston to help those who have been

00:20:56.600 devastated by Hurricane Harvey.

00:20:58.640 I'm a father of four in my mid-40s from Ohio.

00:21:01.840 Like most, I go to work every day.

00:21:03.860 I have homework, sports in the evenings with my kids, and if I'm lucky, maybe a couple of

00:21:07.840 hours of night to myself.

00:21:09.740 I'm thankful that there are some who are actually well on the path of knowing what matters.

00:21:14.780 They are the ones who organized this trip, donated items and monies, and even asked for students

00:21:19.880 to write letters.

00:21:20.820 I'm hopeful that in my effort to help those in Texas, I will also come to recognize what

00:21:24.560 matters most, so I may teach my children and encourage them to do the same.

00:21:30.300 Dwayne is with us now.

00:21:32.280 You're in Houston, Dwayne?

00:21:34.600 I am, Glenn.

00:21:35.540 Thank you for having me on the show.

00:21:36.500 It's a privilege.

00:21:36.920 Sure.

00:21:37.520 Now, Dwayne, you wrote, and this is what caught my eye.

00:21:42.600 You said something that I feel.

00:21:45.420 I feel like my life doesn't have any real meaning.

00:21:49.860 What did that feel like to you?

00:21:51.440 What do you mean by that?

00:21:53.520 I feel like it's repetitious.

00:21:55.220 I feel like you just go about your day.

00:21:56.940 You do your daily routine, and it seems to be very much the same in our life.

00:22:01.620 It's very organized.

00:22:02.660 My wife is very organized about what she does.

00:22:04.760 So, you know, we do our daily routine, we do our work, and we make money, but for what

00:22:09.180 purpose?

00:22:09.900 At the end of the day, when I go to bed, what did I really do?

00:22:13.520 What did I really do to change anything other than my own, you know, my own situation?

00:22:19.740 Dwayne, is this a new feeling for you?

00:22:22.520 When did it start happening?

00:22:23.880 When did you notice it?

00:22:25.060 You know, honestly, I've had it for a couple years, and I don't know what brought it on.

00:22:31.100 I think it just made me my age, you know, as you get older.

00:22:33.340 But I think I dispelled that, you know, maybe this week, because a lot of the folks I'm

00:22:38.560 serving with here are millennials.

00:22:42.040 So I don't know that age is a factor.

00:22:43.840 It's just, I don't know.

00:22:44.980 I just started feeling that way.

00:22:46.840 Maybe I stopped being selfish?

00:22:48.020 I'm wondering, because I feel this way, and it's what I'm searching for as well, and I

00:22:59.480 have found it across all age groups.

00:23:01.780 And I'm just wondering if we're all kind of feeling the same thing, and what's causing

00:23:10.080 it, other than, in my life, I think it's, as I get older, I'm looking at, well, everything

00:23:18.180 I'm creating.

00:23:19.420 It's like, what is the point?

00:23:21.580 What is the point of it?

00:23:23.700 And I'm sorry.

00:23:25.920 No, go ahead.

00:23:26.600 Go ahead.

00:23:27.160 I wanted to relate that when I was a kid, everybody in my neighborhood, we had 60 houses, knew

00:23:32.080 everybody else.

00:23:33.060 And so when something was needed, people helped.

00:23:36.640 My dad would go out and help people all the time for, you know, the lady next door whose

00:23:40.720 water heater was out.

00:23:42.100 Nowadays, we don't even know our neighbors.

00:23:43.720 So, you know, and I think maybe my dad, and I'm speaking for him, I think maybe he found

00:23:49.520 meaning in helping others more than just himself, right?

00:23:53.300 He goes to work to help the family.

00:23:54.920 That's kind of his duty.

00:23:56.360 But what is his meaning?

00:23:58.020 Maybe that's helping others in the neighborhood.

00:24:00.160 And I think we've lost that as a community.

00:24:03.080 And I don't, and you know, my dad was a church-going man, but I don't remember serving

00:24:07.240 with church.

00:24:08.460 But what's cool about this is I just started going to my church recently.

00:24:12.160 And I see that, I think people need to go to their church, whatever that church might

00:24:16.800 be.

00:24:17.420 And if that church is one of service, that may be where they get plugged in.

00:24:21.380 What if your church is telling you that the end of the world is coming on Saturday?

00:24:25.100 Should you still go to that church?

00:24:26.560 I don't know if churches are saying that.

00:24:28.360 Probably not.

00:24:28.680 Yeah.

00:24:28.940 I'm hoping they don't have any type of tennis shoes I got to wear or anything.

00:24:31.560 That's right.

00:24:32.560 So, Dwayne, you were, you're a listener of my program for a long time or?

00:24:38.820 15 years.

00:24:39.580 For about 15 years.

00:24:40.320 And I'll tell you what, much to my wife's chagrin.

00:24:43.100 Is that dinner?

00:24:44.300 No, she would love you, Glenn, if she ever listened to you, but she doesn't like anything

00:24:47.700 to do with politics.

00:24:48.520 And I think she's very typical of a lot of people in America.

00:24:50.840 Sure.

00:24:51.280 They're done with politics.

00:24:52.380 They don't like it.

00:24:52.940 They don't want to deal with it.

00:24:53.680 Well, that's kind of, that's funny because I have a 21-year-old son who, who we talk about

00:24:57.440 Glenn at dinner.

00:24:58.220 My wife is, well, he'll say, oh, did you hear Glenn today?

00:25:00.800 And we'll start talking about it.

00:25:01.700 She's like, it's like you're on a first name basis with this guy.

00:25:03.980 Well, we are.

00:25:06.280 I love it.

00:25:06.900 So, so, Dwayne, what I wanted to ask you, I guess, was, do you think any of this was

00:25:12.280 pushed you this direction because of politics and because you've kind of been immersed in

00:25:19.520 it and you thought that that had some meaning and you realized, no, not so much.

00:25:23.440 Uh-uh.

00:25:23.740 Yeah, I mean, the politics, yeah, absolutely.

00:25:28.240 Politics, to me, I've taken a back, you know, kind of the back door now.

00:25:31.700 They're, they're, I don't even, or the back burner, I don't even, you know what I mean?

00:25:35.380 Yeah.

00:25:35.620 I'm done with politics myself from a, from a, any political party standpoint.

00:25:39.580 I'm more, I feel more like I need to just take action.

00:25:42.600 And that doesn't mean standing in the streets and protesting.

00:25:46.060 It, to me, for me personally, it means going and serving.

00:25:49.540 And I can't, I can tell you the, I've learned more down here in one day about service to

00:25:56.200 others and people just surviving a situation.

00:25:59.480 It's bad down here.

00:26:01.240 What is, they're going to need help down here for a long time.

00:26:03.600 I was, I had to stop two hours in and I just looked around and I said, I asked the team

00:26:09.820 leader, I'm like, how long are you planning on being here?

00:26:11.880 This is like months and months and months, if not years of work.

00:26:15.300 And, uh, so I hope that, you know, the news cycle shoves Houston to the, to the back burner

00:26:21.960 too.

00:26:22.460 And once it gets out of the news cycle, I hope people still sign up and volunteer to serve

00:26:27.640 here in Houston because it's certainly needed.

00:26:30.380 Yeah.

00:26:30.400 They need people.

00:26:31.460 Um, they need people probably more than they did at the very beginning.

00:26:35.880 Um, people still, people are still just getting back into their, their neighborhoods.

00:26:41.040 How did you, when you Dwayne's, uh, you said things kept coming up and, uh, kept saying,

00:26:49.040 no, don't go.

00:26:49.680 You signed up to go with Samaritan's Purse and then everything kept coming up and was trying

00:26:55.400 to convince you not to go.

00:26:57.220 What?

00:26:57.860 Signed up through my church.

00:26:59.180 Originally, we weren't with Samaritan's Purse.

00:27:01.620 Our bus that we got to take us down here, we could not find a bus.

00:27:04.760 All of a sudden a bus opened up for the exact week we wanted to go.

00:27:08.380 We got the bus at a discount.

00:27:10.240 Somehow we, we lost our host church.

00:27:12.120 They had to pull out due to some regulation or something relative to the sites they were

00:27:16.120 visiting.

00:27:17.340 Then Samaritan's Purse rescued us within the last 36 hours before the trip.

00:27:22.300 And we, and brought us down here to Pearland, Texas.

00:27:25.320 And the, the outfit here at Samaritan's Purse, I've never seen a more organized outfit in my

00:27:30.260 life.

00:27:30.400 They are really good.

00:27:32.060 They are really good.

00:27:32.740 Phenomenal.

00:27:33.180 So Dwayne.

00:27:33.940 And the impact you make is a hundred percent impact because they are on top of it.

00:27:37.480 So when, when you are, um, when, when you were getting ready to go, you said everything

00:27:43.700 was stacked against me.

00:27:44.760 I almost, I almost didn't go a million times.

00:27:47.180 What, what kept you in the flow to go?

00:27:51.900 I'm looking for those things in my own life.

00:27:54.540 What are the things that kept you going?

00:27:56.680 Was every time I make an excuse, one would be taken away.

00:27:59.040 I would say, oh, well, work, work said, not a problem.

00:28:01.880 Dwayne, you want to serve?

00:28:03.000 Go serve.

00:28:03.620 We want you to serve.

00:28:05.080 Phenomenal.

00:28:05.440 My wife, you know, and I would say, well, the kids and this, and my son's got a broken

00:28:08.100 pinky finger and surgery.

00:28:09.880 And my wife's like, I got this.

00:28:12.160 Go serve.

00:28:12.920 You know what I mean?

00:28:13.440 And we've got this person to help out and our church family, our new, what I call our

00:28:16.520 new church family is helping out.

00:28:18.080 And then, and then I get in my car and I never listened to religious radio.

00:28:22.220 And I, for some reason I'd flip it on and it just, the songs that I'm hearing tell me

00:28:26.540 to go.

00:28:27.580 And then when I was about to back out, you started talking about meaning and finding your

00:28:31.700 meaning, finding what matters.

00:28:33.500 And you drove that, I think for, seemed like two shows to me, but, uh, and that was it.

00:28:38.500 I mean, it seemed like 10 for other people.

00:28:42.080 I loved it.

00:28:43.500 I loved it.

00:28:44.740 Dwayne, uh, what a pleasure to talk to you and thank you so much for lifting up my spirits

00:28:49.860 and, and posting, uh, what you did, uh, yesterday and going down and actually serving in Houston.

00:28:56.140 Thank you so much.

00:29:02.080 I love how he says a Samaritan's purse is buttoned up. 0.82

00:29:04.800 They're doing everything right.

00:29:05.980 They're dealing with Ebola around the world.

00:29:07.660 Of course, yes, they make sure the only ones that did.

00:29:10.620 Yeah, they really were the only ones who did that.

00:29:12.380 Samaritanspurse.org.

00:29:13.340 If you want to get involved there.

00:29:14.520 Also team Rubicon USA.org is another organization we've been working with and they've been doing

00:29:19.400 a great, great job.

00:29:21.600 Can you help me out on the Paris climate deal?

00:29:24.380 We're in, we're out.

00:29:25.540 I'm not sure.

00:29:26.480 I, I think Donald Trump has set this up to win no matter what happens.

00:29:32.440 And I mean, it's brilliant.

00:29:34.060 You know, it's sick of the winning.

00:29:35.000 No, no, no.

00:29:35.320 See, it's, it's brilliant the way it's done.

00:29:37.440 Except I'm not sure who actually is going to win.

00:29:41.560 For instance, I thought we got out of it.

00:29:44.100 And so all of the, all of the Republicans and conservatives were like, yay, he got us

00:29:48.460 out of the Paris.

00:29:49.000 Including me, by the way.

00:29:50.120 Me too.

00:29:50.740 Me too.

00:29:50.960 We praised him a lot.

00:29:52.360 A lot.

00:29:53.460 Love that.

00:29:54.440 Thank you for that.

00:29:55.300 That is a great thing you've just done.

00:29:57.280 Now, the, the Europeans are all circling because if the United States pulls out, it's over.

00:30:04.440 So now he's going and saying, well, okay, well, maybe there's some things that we can

00:30:10.180 do to get us back into it.

00:30:13.140 No, no, we don't want back into it.

00:30:16.380 And so he's, if he goes back in, was this just a negotiation?

00:30:23.420 Is that the right thing for conservatives?

00:30:27.960 That one I can help you with.

00:30:29.040 No.

00:30:29.480 Yes.

00:30:29.860 Thank you.

00:30:30.260 Because I don't want a better deal on the Paris climate accord, which by the way, even

00:30:34.820 with the deal that they have, even if all the science is right, does nothing, does absolutely

00:30:40.640 nothing to change the climate.

00:30:43.080 Even if Al Gore's science is perfect, you're talking about, they, the thing they keep saying,

00:30:48.040 well, we could, we could reverse some of these temperature gains that when they're talking

00:30:51.500 about, there is a separate accord that does 90 times what this one does.

00:30:57.220 So it does absolutely nothing except just sell off your sovereignty and your, your ability.

00:31:04.680 But we're getting mixed messages because that's what he's supposedly talking about at the United

00:31:09.580 Nations today is sovereignty, individual sovereignty, which is a speech I would like to hear from

00:31:15.260 the president, any president.

00:31:16.640 I would love to hear that at the United Nations.

00:31:19.760 I applaud individual sovereignty.

00:31:22.580 However, at the same time, he's saying that he's sending the message to Europe.

00:31:27.360 Well, yes, well, then maybe we can horse trade here.

00:31:30.620 Yeah.

00:31:31.060 I'm wondering if we've all been played.

00:31:32.960 And like the, there is no negotiation to a good deal in Paris.

00:31:37.480 The deal in Paris is nothing.

00:31:40.220 You should have no deal whatsoever.

00:31:42.440 If he's actually trying to negotiate something, uh, that's really, uh, awful.

00:31:48.140 However, there's an argument to be made that maybe he's using this as a chip for something

00:31:52.620 else.

00:31:53.000 And if that's the case, fine.

00:31:55.560 Right?

00:31:56.000 Like if you want to, if you want to, I'm not saying you go back into it.

00:31:58.960 I'm saying if you want to use it as a negotiating tactic that you're eventually going to take

00:32:02.760 off the table, I guess you can do those sorts of things.

00:32:05.560 Well, I, I wish I had confidence.

00:32:08.380 I mean, I've been hearing this, I think what's really happening is X, Y, and Z.

00:32:13.740 We've been hearing that since John Roberts in the Supreme court.

00:32:16.800 I'm sick of making excuses.

00:32:18.220 Just do what you're doing.

00:32:18.980 Just, just say what you're doing.

00:32:20.720 Just get it done.

00:32:21.980 And tell me what you actually believe.

00:32:25.280 The Paris accord is either a loss of sovereignty and a bad deal, or it's not.

00:32:32.320 Do you want to be slowly poisoned or just quickly poisoned?

00:32:36.660 No, I, I opt out.

00:32:39.040 I don't want any poison.

00:32:40.600 Thank you.

00:32:41.640 But what if the world really wants you to be poisoned?

00:32:43.640 Well, then the world will probably poison me.

00:32:46.800 Oh my gosh.

00:32:48.000 I think they're slowly poisoning him in his diet Coke at night.

00:32:52.400 I heard that on InfoWars.

00:32:54.740 I hear that.

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00:35:34.860 Glenn Beck.

00:35:39.820 The hurricane in Miami is pretty interesting in that, you know, they had all this power is out everywhere and you think, well, there's so much new solar power.

00:35:52.660 Why don't they just use that?

00:35:53.500 Listen to this.

00:35:55.300 Power company rules and lobbying have let it made it impossible across Florida to buy a solar panel and power your individual home with it.

00:36:03.240 You are instead legally mandated to connect your panels to your local electric grid.

00:36:07.980 Yep.

00:36:08.660 More egregious FPL, the power company, mandates that if the power goes out, your solar power system must power down along with the rest of the grid, robbing potentially needy people of power during major outages.

00:36:20.600 They talk about how this is supposedly to protect people who are working on the grid because if there's energy going through it, they could have problems.

00:36:29.320 However, the state rules also mandate that solar customers include a switch that cleanly disconnects their panels from the grid while keeping the rest of a power home lines connected.

00:36:39.680 But during a disaster like Irma, FPL customers aren't allowed to switch the flip, flip the switch and turn on the solar power in their homes because of all these ridiculous government rules.

00:36:50.900 This is so this is the way to just keep solar power.

00:36:55.820 I mean, why, why, why, why do we, why are you mandated to pump power back into Florida light and power?

00:37:05.100 That is crazy talk.

00:37:07.280 That is crazy talk.

00:37:08.800 If I have extra juice that I'm not using, I have no problem taking that power and throwing it into the grid.

00:37:15.180 I have no problem sharing it, but you're going to I'm going to put a I'm going to put a panel on my roof and then I have to go power a private institution and they take away my right. 0.99

00:37:27.180 Screw you, man. 0.94

00:37:28.500 No, Glenn Beck. 0.99

00:37:45.180 Love, courage, truth, Glenn Beck.

00:37:52.000 If you live by lawlessness, you are going to die by it.

00:37:55.040 And that is the double edged sword that first the Democrats are starting to be cut by.

00:37:59.540 But the Republicans will be cut by it just the same.

00:38:03.540 Nancy Pelosi experienced it firsthand yesterday.

00:38:05.980 Dreamer press conference in San Francisco.

00:38:08.780 She looked helpless and even a little bit scared as pro-immigration activists shouted her down using the same tactics that Occupy Wall Street used on conservatives just a few years ago. 0.82

00:38:22.200 Mind check.

00:38:23.220 Mind check.

00:38:25.100 Mind check.

00:38:26.080 Mind check.

00:38:26.900 Mind check.

00:38:28.120 We are immigrant youth.

00:38:29.960 We are immigrant youth.

00:38:31.800 Undocumented and unbrained. 0.86

00:38:33.800 Undocumented and unbrained. 0.86

00:38:34.860 So how did Pelosi not see this coming when the Democrats used hurricane relief funding as a ransom for a budget deal?

00:38:43.880 Hardly anybody on the left even batted an eye.

00:38:47.320 But now they've done basically the same thing with DACA and they've shelled it to pursue legislation that is already failed.

00:38:54.780 In other words, they're holding it ransom while they watch the political fallout from another failed bill.

00:39:01.460 We have to ask ourselves both left and right.

00:39:06.420 Does anybody who actually believes in open borders and mass amnesty still think the Democrats care about DACA and children?

00:39:16.620 No, it's about power and it's about money.

00:39:19.640 Does anybody on the right actually believe that the Republicans still actually care about border security?

00:39:27.140 And when it comes to health care, freedom of choice and small government?

00:39:31.160 No, it's about money and power.

00:39:33.280 We are going to wake up to some real problems if we don't start focusing on things that matter and start telling the truth.

00:39:45.560 Trump, Schumer, Pelosi, they're all making deals.

00:39:48.800 The problem is they're bad for both sides.

00:39:51.720 Vast majority of those on both the left and the right want real lasting change.

00:39:57.860 What happens when everybody in the country that wants change has four to eight more years of the status quo?

00:40:06.840 We just keep switching seats, switching sides of the argument, but nothing is changing.

00:40:13.480 Maybe the better question is, who is going to eventually rise up that isn't rising up on violence or hatred?

00:40:24.580 Who is it that is going to rise up and promise something different, promise a true choice, true freedom and real peace and prosperity?

00:40:35.300 I have been wrestling with something for the last six months or so because I'm quite honestly, I'm disgusted by the things that I have built.

00:41:01.660 And I don't think it has a lasting value.

00:41:06.680 And I would hope that others are thinking the same thing.

00:41:10.400 But as I go and I speak to media executives, they're not.

00:41:15.400 They they recognize the same thing, but they they're not willing to do the things that might hurt them.

00:41:23.660 And in some ways, I understand they have shareholders, et cetera, et cetera.

00:41:27.760 But at some point, we all have to try to do the right thing.

00:41:35.280 Right now, almost everything in our life was supposed to make our life easier.

00:41:40.940 It was supposed to make it less chaotic.

00:41:43.080 We were supposed to have access to more information, communicate easier.

00:41:48.300 I'm telling I cannot be alone.

00:41:51.440 My life is more complex than ever before.

00:41:54.620 I can't handle all of it.

00:41:56.860 And now I'm getting to the point last night.

00:41:59.100 My wife, we were working on a letter last night together and the kids came in and we're just asking stuff.

00:42:07.860 And normally it's the other way.

00:42:09.320 Normally, I'm I'm doing the typing.

00:42:12.040 She was typing last night and she was so bogged down on things.

00:42:16.460 And the kids came in.

00:42:17.760 She went, oh, kids, stop for a second. 0.59

00:42:20.780 And I just looked at her.

00:42:21.920 I said, oh, oh, my gosh, I I recognize that person.

00:42:27.260 I think everybody is like that.

00:42:29.520 And websites now and technology, people who are are are shaping our future are doing things to keep us.

00:42:39.720 Into that matrix as long as they possibly can.

00:42:43.740 Tristan Harris, he is the founder of Time Well Spent.

00:42:46.660 He's a former Google design ethicist.

00:42:49.660 Gave a great, great talk on how do we how do we change this?

00:42:58.320 Tristan, how are you?

00:43:01.100 Glad it's great to be here.

00:43:02.500 I'm great.

00:43:02.900 Thank you for having me.

00:43:03.700 So I'm so happy to see that I'm not the only one feeling this way and not the only one trying to figure a way out.

00:43:11.620 But it's almost impossible, at least at my level, to to even talk to people who are thinking this way.

00:43:19.260 No, I want to design the website in a way that it gets people back to their own life faster.

00:43:27.340 Right.

00:43:30.560 Yeah, completely.

00:43:31.580 Well, I have to say, Glenn, I was also really moved by your interview with with Dave Rubin talking about how the race for attention when you when you were on on television and the race for good ratings affected, you know, your own life.

00:43:45.560 And I think this is the thing people miss about the tech industry is that no matter what good intentions Facebook, Google, you know, Snapchat has to improve people's lives, they're caught in this race for attention.

00:43:58.500 And as I said in the TED talk, and you know so well, it's this race to the bottom of the brainstem for whatever works at getting attention.

00:44:04.940 And there's no escaping that because there's there's only so much attention, there's only so much time in people's lives, only so many hours in a day, and it's not growing, you know, so so that the race is only going to get more competitive.

00:44:17.920 And as it gets more competitive, it becomes this race for figuring out what pushes the buttons in people's brains.

00:44:24.000 And so we have to get out of this race for attention.

00:44:27.340 And like you said, you can't ask anyone who's in the attention economy to not do what they're doing.

00:44:33.520 You can't tell YouTube, hey, stop getting so much of people's attention.

00:44:37.280 You can't tell Facebook, hey, stop making your product so addictive.

00:44:40.700 You can't tell Snapchat, hey, stop manipulating the minds of teenagers to get them sending messages back and forth and hooking them because they're all caught in this race for attention, which is why we need to reform the system one level up.

00:44:54.820 You have to go outside the system.

00:44:57.640 And I'd love to talk to you about that.

00:44:59.420 So what so what does that even mean?

00:45:01.260 How do you go outside of the go one level up?

00:45:04.720 What is one level up?

00:45:06.680 Well, it's sort of like, you know, the tragedy of the commons.

00:45:09.340 So you can't ask any one of the actors to to do something different than what they're doing.

00:45:14.020 They need to be able to coordinate, you know, their race for attention.

00:45:18.520 So, you know, one way to go one level up is to go to the government, which is not very pleasant as an idea.

00:45:25.740 Another way to go one level up is actually to go to Apple.

00:45:29.240 So Apple is kind of like the government of the attention economy because they create the device upon which everyone else is competing for attention.

00:45:39.820 And Google is also sort of a mini government of the attention economy because they create kind of the government of who gets the best results when when you search for something.

00:45:50.660 And Facebook's kind of the government of the attention economy, too, because they choose who's at the top of your feed.

00:45:56.720 And currently they're they're locked into their own race for attention.

00:46:01.400 So one of the things is we have to decouple profit from attention because so long as those two things are, you know, one to one connected, it becomes this race to the bottom.

00:46:13.500 And we actually did this with energy where there's only so much energy available to sell people.

00:46:20.200 And energy companies used to have this incentive of I make more money, the more energy you use.

00:46:25.000 So I actually want you to leave the lights on, leave the faucets on.

00:46:29.280 And, you know, that created a problem where where, you know, we waste more energy we waste or we more we pollute the environment, the more money the companies make.

00:46:38.480 And in the U.S., we went through a change called decoupling, which decoupled through a little bit of self-regulation among the among the energy companies where they basically capped how much money energy companies pocketed directly from the more energy people used.

00:46:56.420 And then the remaining energy, when you use a lot of energy, all that extra energy, they priced it higher to disincentivize it.

00:47:03.540 And then they actually use that extra profit not to capture it for themselves, but to collectively reinvest it into renewable energy infrastructure.

00:47:13.560 And so I'm wondering whether or not something like that could happen for attention, where companies could profit from, you know, some amount of attention.

00:47:20.960 We want that relationship to exist.

00:47:22.780 But then beyond a certain point, what if everyone was reinvesting in the greater good of the attention economy?

00:47:29.940 Because, you know, right now, two billion people's minds from the moment they wake up in the morning, you know, they're jacked into this environment, this digital environment that's controlled by three technology companies like Apple, Google and Facebook.

00:47:43.460 Tristan, go ahead.

00:47:46.040 I'm sorry.

00:47:46.460 Go ahead.

00:47:47.260 No, go ahead.

00:47:48.040 Does it, does it, does it, does it, um, I mean, a, I'm really glad somebody is thinking about this because I think about this stuff all the time and I don't hear anybody really talking about it.

00:48:01.460 Um, and, and it's, it's a little hair raising because what you're even saying is starts to roll into the, you know, big brother, brave new world.

00:48:17.380 I mean, it could so easily go into, we're, we're just in this, this weird place that I don't know if mankind has ever been in before, that if we don't do this right, we're really going to screw ourselves.

00:48:31.840 No, you know, you're so dialed into this, Glenn, you're, you're totally right.

00:48:35.160 And, and, you know, I studied this for, for three or four years.

00:48:37.940 I was a design ethicist at Google where literally the way I, I spent every single day studying, what does it mean to ethically steer people's attention?

00:48:45.680 Uh, and, and it really, like you said, it's the brave new world scenario combined with the big brother scenario, because whether we want to admit it or not, you know, again, 2 billion people from the moment they wake up to every bathroom breaks, every coffee line, to going to bed, to every back of the Uber or public transportation, you know, people are glued to their phones.

00:49:04.700 We check them 150 times a day.

00:49:07.420 And, and again, because of this race for attention, these technology products are not neutral.

00:49:12.560 Uh, each one, um, is trying to do whatever it can to get attention.

00:49:15.820 So they, they deploy these different persuasive techniques and it becomes this, uh, you know, amusing ourselves to death, you know, brave new world scenario.

00:49:24.500 If you've seen the movie WALL-E, it's like, uh, you know, it's a race to, to put people with a screen in front of their eyes for as many hours as possible, consuming for as much as possible because that's what's most profitable.

00:49:36.240 So it does start to resemble something like the matrix.

00:49:39.100 And I don't know if you know the, the book, I'm using ourselves to death.

00:49:42.380 Um, but in the, in the beginning, he, he, Neil Postman, the author contrasts Orwell's vision of the future, which we're all, you know, really ready to oppose because it's a form of tyranny.

00:49:53.020 We don't want big brother, but then there is this subtler vision of brave new world that people forget to oppose because there's no face of it.

00:49:59.840 There's no big brother.

00:50:01.200 And he has this great, great line that's, you know, Orwell was worried about a world.

00:50:06.240 Uh, where we would ban books.

00:50:07.820 And that says Huxley was worried about a world where no one would want to read a book.

00:50:12.580 Uh, you know, Orwell was worried about a world in which the truth would be concealed from us.

00:50:17.700 Huxley was worried about a world where the truth would be drowned in a sea of irrelevance.

00:50:23.320 Um, and it, you know, it goes on and, and, and the point is there the world that we're, we're entering.

00:50:28.300 Yeah, we are there.

00:50:29.600 Uh, Tristan Harris is with us.

00:50:31.340 Quickly, you, you had mentioned, uh, the manipulation that these companies do for your attention.

00:50:36.240 And you had a really great example with snap streaks.

00:50:39.100 I don't know Snapchat very well, but can you kind of explain that?

00:50:42.980 Absolutely.

00:50:43.540 Yeah.

00:50:43.820 So, um, one thing that I think everybody who uses a smartphone in a family is aware of is how this is affecting, uh, their kids, especially if they're teenagers.

00:50:52.300 Um, so Snapchat, uh, is the number one way that teenagers in the United States communicate.

00:50:59.400 This is very important.

00:51:00.360 So if you're, you know, like me, I'm 33, uh, and you're an adult, you probably use text messaging as your number one way to communicate.

00:51:06.600 So you live in text messaging, but imagine living in Snapchat.

00:51:09.680 This is like your dominant way to communicate.

00:51:11.320 And Snapchat figured out a way to hook kids called streaks. 0.97

00:51:16.420 And what that means is they show a number next to every single person that you chat with.

00:51:21.180 And that number is the number of days in a row that you've continually sent a streak, a message back and forth.

00:51:27.360 So if you've sent a message back and forth, 150 days in a row, it shows the number 150 with a fireball.

00:51:32.340 And it might sound totally innocuous, but it actually causes kids to send all of these empty messages back and forth.

00:51:40.000 They're literally sending photos.

00:51:40.760 Just not to break the speed.

00:51:42.000 It's a streak.

00:51:42.900 Just not to break the streak.

00:51:44.700 Wow.

00:51:45.220 And they give their, they give their password to five other friends when they go on vacation just because they don't want to lose it.

00:51:52.300 And so it's like, it's like tying two kids on a, you know, legs together on a treadmill on two separate treadmills and then hitting start and watching them run like chickens with their heads cut off, passing the football back and forth just so they don't drop the streak.

00:52:07.160 And this is, by the way, you know, from a playbook of persuasive techniques that people in the industry know are good at getting people to do things.

00:52:15.520 And you can use it for good, like you can set up a streak for the number of days to the gym that you've, you know, the number of days you read five pages in a book that you wanted to make sure you do that habit.

00:52:23.920 So you keep up a streak.

00:52:25.080 It's a powerful motivator.

00:52:26.460 But what they did is they take, they took this powerful technique and then they applied it to a vulnerable population and they applied it to children's sense of belonging with each other.

00:52:36.380 Because now kids define the terms of their friendship based on whether or not they have a streak or not.

00:52:42.400 It becomes the currency of their friendship.

00:52:45.900 And so that's what's new about this.

00:52:47.820 People often say, you know, you know, back in the 1970s, you know, we were used to gossip on the telephone all the time.

00:52:53.980 And now if I look at my teenage kids, they're just gossiping on the telephone a different way with Snapchat.

00:52:58.540 There's nothing new or alarming here.

00:53:00.100 And what's different about this is that your phone in the 1970s didn't have thousands of engineers on the other side of the screen who knew how to kind of strategically tap two people on the shoulder and make them feel like they're missing out on each other's lives.

00:53:16.340 And to show you, you know, to have the phone like light up and appear in your life exactly when you're most vulnerable.

00:53:22.140 I mean, for example, it's never been easier to find out that you're missing out on what your friends are doing if you're a teenager.

00:53:29.260 You know, Snapchat or Instagram benefit if they put that at the top of the feed, not at the bottom.

00:53:34.660 In the same way that Facebook benefits by putting out outrageous news at the top of the news feed because it's better at getting attention.

00:53:42.260 And so what – go ahead.

00:53:44.100 No, please finish.

00:53:44.840 Well, so as you said, I don't want to be here dwelling on the problem.

00:53:49.960 I first want to do this because it's important people understand the problem.

00:53:53.780 And it's honestly one of the biggest problems of our time because it's infrastructure for solving every other problem.

00:54:00.220 You know, every other problem, healthcare, climate change, all these things require, you know, us to be able to sustain attention and talk about a complex topic.

00:54:08.720 And if we're just running around distracted all the time and if the entire next generation is hooked and addicted to their devices and it's – we can't – you know, we don't develop the capacity for patience or complexity or sitting with each other.

00:54:25.340 Sometimes that's uncomfortable.

00:54:26.920 You know, it's a delicate thing to be a human being.

00:54:30.820 So Tristan Harris is the founder of Time Well Spent, former Google design ethicist, fascinating guy.

00:54:39.360 And we'll come back and talk a little bit about what do we do?

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00:56:32.300 Glenn back.

00:56:40.700 Glenn back.

00:56:41.620 Tristan Harris, founder of Time Well Spent, former Google design ethicist.

00:56:47.160 He's agreed to stay with us for a few minutes longer to the end of the hour.

00:56:51.520 And we only have about a minute here, Tristan.

00:56:53.740 So let me just let me set the next half hour up with just this question.

00:56:59.060 Are you.

00:57:01.980 How confident are you that we we make this next turn over the next 50 years as a species?

00:57:11.620 And and come out the other side better off?

00:57:18.160 Yeah, well, it's a very big question.

00:57:21.040 I see it as we know that we cannot survive on the current track that we're on.

00:57:26.800 So we need to change course that that much is clear.

00:57:29.660 And that's why I've decided just to work on this full time.

00:57:32.740 We have to reform this fundamental way that technology is shaping our lives.

00:57:37.300 I think it's one of the number one determinants of culture.

00:57:40.280 I agree.

00:57:40.760 And the contents of people's minds every day.

00:57:42.820 I mean, I get two billion people's minds every single day use Facebook.

00:57:46.480 That's more than the number of followers of Christianity.

00:57:49.080 One point five billion a day on YouTube is more than the number of followers of Islam.

00:57:53.320 So, you know, that these companies would not be accountable to the societal values we want.

00:58:00.580 Back in a minute.

00:58:04.360 Glenn, back.

00:58:05.460 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:58:20.940 The world changed during the Industrial Revolution in about a hundred year period.

00:58:25.480 I have been saying for almost 15 years now that we're going to pass a threshold and you're going to see the Industrial Revolution happen in about a 10 year period where you will not recognize the way the world is structured, you know, 10 years from now.

00:58:43.220 And I think we're either at that threshold or about to cross into that threshold to where everything is being redesigned and changed.

00:58:50.980 And we all have to participate in this.

00:58:53.820 There's no spectator sport on this one.

00:58:56.640 And I'm very concerned that especially in the media, they're playing the old games and it is truly the race for the bottom.

00:59:06.720 Tristan Harris is the founder of Time Well Spent, former Google design ethicist.

00:59:11.940 And this is the kind of stuff that he is working on, on how to get people to A, recognize the problem and B, companies to say, wait a minute, I have responsibility here and we should be thinking these things through.

00:59:27.880 Tristan, I have talked to leaders from the left and the right, you know, all the way from all the way from the Huffington Post and, you know, and AOL to the Wall Street Journal and Fox.

00:59:49.880 And most of them don't understand what I'm even talking about, but those who do feel like they're trapped and they can't change it because it affects their traffic.

01:00:05.120 And we are trying to redesign, I'm trying to break the mold and every single thing I suggest, my product team says, you're going to hurt traffic, you're going to hurt traffic.

01:00:18.680 And I'm trying to balance of how do I do the right thing and not play this game and still survive?

01:00:30.420 Yeah, well, that's why it's such a good question.

01:00:33.460 I'm so glad the conversation, because, you know, like I said, you can't ask anyone who's got, you know, a direct access to people's minds to say, hey, don't put the shiny stuff, the outrage stuff,

01:00:46.400 the new subscribe to my newsletter at the top of the website, right?

01:00:49.980 Everyone's in this race to capture attention.

01:00:51.760 So you can't you with your website, you can't just change what you're doing because it'll mean you get less profit.

01:00:57.920 OK, so I want to make sure I understand you because you're not asking me.

01:01:03.860 I'm asking you.

01:01:05.700 I want to do this.

01:01:07.540 I would rather be out of business than to aid our demise.

01:01:12.700 So I'm asking you, is there a way that an individual can do this and make a difference?

01:01:21.240 You know, I think there's small things that you can do.

01:01:24.220 You can choose to, you know, batch and digest your newsletters.

01:01:28.200 If you a good example, this is less what you can do is something that Facebook could do.

01:01:32.080 Facebook wants to drip out notifications one by one because that actually makes it feel more like a slot machine.

01:01:37.900 And same thing with Instagram and likes, you know, instead of just saying at the end of the day, hey, here's here's what changed.

01:01:43.760 Here's here's what you've got.

01:01:44.960 Instead of that, that's going to work, you know, not as well as dripping them out one by one just to make it more like a slot machine, just dripping out the dopamine.

01:01:53.600 And, you know, so one, there's some small things that companies can do or that you can do with with your website.

01:02:00.440 One example, again, is to batch and deliver this one digest at the end of the day versus the dripping things out.

01:02:06.820 That's something that big social media companies can do.

01:02:09.440 But again, that will mean that they're going to be a little bit less successful in terms of their traffic.

01:02:13.980 But if they all decided to do that, then we'd actually be, you know, in a in a better place.

01:02:20.040 And so that's why it's like, can we can we talk together?

01:02:23.540 Can we get the media industry together to talk about what are the standards we want to have about the way we write headlines of it, the rules that we use about the photos that we try to put?

01:02:32.780 You know, you everyone wants to put the photo next to the article that's of, you know, the most surprising or outrageous photo of Mitch McConnell or of Trump with a big, you know, surprise on his face, you know, whatever is going to make it seem most engaging.

01:02:47.840 And we need to, you know, get people together to say, what are the rules that we would all be happier as a society and as a media industry to live by?

01:02:56.000 That's one thing is that right now we have to be able to acknowledge that the human mind, you know, we came from this long process of evolved instincts.

01:03:06.920 And so there's certain things that always appeal to us.

01:03:09.300 The fear of missing out is very powerful.

01:03:12.060 The need to belong is very powerful.

01:03:14.700 So when Snapchat manipulates that, that that has an influence on us.

01:03:17.880 So instead, we need to say, these are the worst demons of our nature.

01:03:21.180 What does it mean to appeal to the angels of our nature?

01:03:23.660 And how can we create some standards around that?

01:03:26.280 So one way is to have the tech companies get together and to self-regulate themselves by asking, what are the standards for all of our practices?

01:03:35.140 It's sort of like building codes or building standards for buildings.

01:03:38.000 You know, I could build a building with some bad materials, but it'll hurt society.

01:03:42.200 It'll be more economically efficient to do that.

01:03:44.460 But we'd all be better off if we paid a little bit higher price.

01:03:47.420 And these companies are richer than God.

01:03:49.780 I mean, these are really profitable companies that can afford to reinvest in better infrastructure.

01:03:55.220 That's why the conversation is how we can reform the tech industry.

01:03:58.160 See, I don't know what your political leaning is, and I don't care, and I don't want to get into it.

01:04:01.900 But as a libertarian, I agree with you.

01:04:05.560 And at the same time, I'm spooked to hell by that.

01:04:08.220 I mean, I just, you know, it's just we're in this place now to where I don't know what else to do.

01:04:13.680 And I don't, and I think we're, I know you are, obviously, but I think this conversation is way ahead of the curve for the average person.

01:04:23.740 By the time the average person really gets here, the wave is crashing on the beach.

01:04:31.000 Can I switch the conversation a little bit to, as a parent, what do I need to know as a parent?

01:04:38.840 Or, you know, because people just think, oh, my kids can X, Y, Z.

01:04:46.240 An interesting story.

01:04:47.720 My son-in-law, for Christmas, his mother's Christmas present to the kids was take him to a horror movie every Christmas.

01:04:59.240 They didn't really celebrate Christmas.

01:05:01.320 And so they would go to this horror movie.

01:05:03.040 And he is a kid.

01:05:04.040 He's, like, spooked, like crazy now.

01:05:06.140 And he was telling me, we were talking about it, and he said, Glenn, my mother made me watch that when I was so small that when I actually saw it later in life, I thought it was a dream.

01:05:21.120 I thought that was my life.

01:05:22.520 I thought I was Georgie, the kid chasing the deal.

01:05:25.540 You know, we as adults just think, oh, our kids can handle it.

01:05:29.060 There's so much going on, even in the head of an adult now with technology.

01:05:34.880 What should we know?

01:05:37.980 Yeah, well, for parents, I mean, I think it's challenging.

01:05:41.280 I went to a conference on children and screens.

01:05:44.100 And, you know, one of the things that came up is we often we worry about the kids, we worry about the kids.

01:05:49.100 But sometimes the thing that came up was how kids want their parents to stop using their devices so much, you know, because there's something called the still face syndrome, where when a child is very young and they make eye contact with their parent, the parent, they need that parent to, you know, emote back to them, to open their eyes and smile.

01:06:09.600 And use their face to really expressively see that they're being seen.

01:06:15.360 And when the kid, you know, as an infant is looking at the adult's face and the adult's face is sucked hypnotically into the screen with a totally still flat face, you know, it's doing something to the development of children.

01:06:28.980 Children need to get that feedback.

01:06:31.260 And so one thing is what can we as adults do?

01:06:33.560 One thing that's really easy that's super trivial is just to turn off all notifications on your phone, because what most people don't realize is that many notifications are invented by machines at technology companies to try and lure you back.

01:06:49.740 So if it says that, hey, these five friends liked your photo, it feels like that was your five friends who sent you that notification because it was their action that led to it.

01:06:59.840 But it's actually not true.

01:07:01.140 It's the technology companies are trying to harvest new reasons to seduce you back into the app.

01:07:08.360 Were you, you know, go ahead.

01:07:10.500 Did you, did you, did you, did you go out on your own because you were both intellectually thrilled at what was happening or could happen and horrified at being a part of it as well?

01:07:29.640 Yeah, well, I was a part of the tech industry for a long time.

01:07:32.900 And, you know, my friends in college started Instagram.

01:07:36.020 We both studied at this lab at Stanford that taught people this intersection between technology and psychology.

01:07:43.240 And I became really alarmed by, I think, you know, technology was less and less about actually adding up to this benefit to our lives and more and more just kind of filling up our lives with things that work, you know, on, on, on getting our, our minds to do stuff.

01:07:58.600 So I got into this work by, you know, a year into being at Google, making this memo before the Google diversity memo.

01:08:06.340 And it was a memo about four years ago, five years ago, about essentially how, you know, 50, 20 to 35 year old engineer designers in San Francisco control what 2 billion people are thinking and doing every day when they make choices about how these screens work.

01:08:21.200 And that we have a moral responsibility to do something about that.

01:08:25.360 And to my surprise, I thought I was going to get, but actually it went viral throughout Google and was seen by about 10,000 people and talked to the CEO about it.

01:08:34.860 And that led to my work researching this question of how, how do you hold that responsibility if you're someone in a technology company and your choices will impact what 2 billion people are thinking every day.

01:08:45.940 And so I started working on that framework, but I couldn't get some of the changes through.

01:08:50.580 And frankly, as you said, we're, we're, you know, coming up fast on this brave new world, you know, situation that, that we don't want.

01:08:59.540 It's clearly not good for us.

01:09:01.140 It's not like we're going to sort of self-correct and we're just going to figure out how to live with these devices as it's commonly talked about.

01:09:07.920 This is going to get more and more persuasive because it's personalized and it's pulling on our social psychology.

01:09:13.560 And so I knew that I needed to leave and create a public conversation to raise awareness first, but I also have a lot of ideas about what we can do.

01:09:21.800 And so that's why I'm out here talking, talking to you.

01:09:24.680 I don't have a book.

01:09:25.380 I'm not trying to sell something.

01:09:26.440 I have no financial motivation.

01:09:27.720 That's literally just a public, a good conversation that I think you and I both know is so important.

01:09:32.940 I, Tristan, I, I, I can't thank you enough for coming on because you don't, you don't have a reason to come on and other than to do, you know, good.

01:09:41.700 And I hope that we can invite you back because I have, I have so many questions and I think you have many of the answers and I really appreciate your time.

01:09:52.060 Thank you so much.

01:09:53.620 Thank you, Glenn.

01:09:54.440 I'd be happy to come back.

01:10:01.980 Tristan Harris is a former Google design ethicist and he's the founder of the organization Time Well Spent.

01:10:08.580 Really fascinating conversation.

01:10:10.060 Jeez.

01:10:11.320 He has a really interesting thing about how menus on every website are designed to make you do special things.

01:10:20.020 You don't ask questions as to why they're there.

01:10:22.460 Yeah.

01:10:22.600 See if we can book him again in a couple of weeks or next week or whenever.

01:10:26.460 Let's see if we can make him a regular just for a little while because I've read that thing about the menu.

01:10:32.800 Yeah.

01:10:32.880 And it is, it's stunning.

01:10:35.640 Yeah.

01:10:35.800 When you read it, you're like, wait, holy cow.

01:10:38.880 I didn't even, he is really pulling the curtain back and showing you, no, no, no.

01:10:44.980 Everything is being done to get you sucked in and hold you there.

01:10:52.500 And it's, it's, it's, it's going to, when, with the development of AI and on top of it, virtual reality, I'm telling you, the matrix is coming.

01:11:03.480 If we don't wake up and that's, if we make it, if the news media continues to go down the road that we're all going down.

01:11:12.760 And that is, I'm going to throw a fireball at you and you're going to throw one back and we're all going to get clicks.

01:11:19.340 I'm telling you revolution will come and we may not have to worry about the tech problem.

01:11:25.380 The other thing is it would be really expensive to get him to consult for us, but if he's on the air, I mean, we just ask him questions and answers them for free.

01:11:33.060 That would be wrong.

01:11:33.780 I haven't even thought of that one.

01:11:36.560 No, me neither.

01:11:37.360 That's why I didn't say it until right then.

01:11:39.760 Uh, our crisis, uh, you know, whatever it is, the crisis that you have in your life, the crisis that we're all facing, it's not going to bring out a better version of you.

01:11:53.520 You know, this, how many times have you had to apologize because you're like, I am sorry.

01:11:57.580 I'm under so much stress, blah, blah, blah.

01:11:59.980 It just reveals what's already there.

01:12:03.120 And it usually reveals the worst of you unless you are prepared for it.

01:12:08.060 So here we go.

01:12:10.580 What is it?

01:12:10.960 Maria, the hurricane that is coming now.

01:12:13.800 So the is, yeah, there's Jose's up in the Northeast.

01:12:17.680 Maria, I think is after that.

01:12:19.080 Yeah, it's Maria.

01:12:20.500 There are more hurricanes exploding in the Atlantic earthquakes in the mountain West, possible volcanic activity.

01:12:28.940 This is great.

01:12:29.760 And we found out earlier today, September 23rd is the day the earth is going to end.

01:12:35.000 Uh, a lot of people believe that.

01:12:37.580 So I'm not one of them.

01:12:39.640 Anyway, signs are everywhere, uh, that things, you know, are going to get rough and we'll make it through and we'll make it through together because we'll rise and be our best.

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01:13:18.160 Glenn Beck.

01:13:28.980 Glenn Beck.

01:13:35.740 I would, uh, Sarah, if we have time, could you grab the, uh, the audio?

01:13:41.900 How artificial, uh, intelligence will affect your life?

01:13:44.580 The people, uh, we are, um, we're in a really exciting period of time, but the world, uh, the world will, um, look back and study us and study our, um, our choices.

01:14:05.820 And I am more convinced than ever that, um, that what I have, uh, I shouldn't say feared, but what I have worried about, uh, is going to come to pass.

01:14:23.740 And, and we are going to be passengers, uh, on the road to hell if we don't wake up and say, wait, wait, wait, we want to steer.

01:14:31.700 We really, we want to steer.

01:14:33.400 These decisions are being made for us and we're not really considering them at all.

01:14:36.960 Yeah, we're not.

01:14:37.400 They're just washing over us.

01:14:38.860 It's one thing to vote for something bad.

01:14:40.540 Yeah.

01:14:40.760 It's another thing to have someone else vote for something bad and you don't even realize they did it.

01:14:44.460 And I feel like that's the situation we're in right now with technology.

01:14:46.880 It is.

01:14:47.280 And, and we have to pay attention to that, but there's a lot going on.

01:14:50.820 We're going to give you the recap of Donald Trump and what he said at the United Nations, some pretty stark and amazing statements that he made.

01:14:58.320 Some good, some stark and amazing.

01:15:01.300 And Bill O'Reilly is joining us after the top of the hour.

01:15:12.400 Glenn Beck.

01:15:13.480 Love.

01:15:31.040 Courage.

01:15:32.400 Truth.

01:15:33.900 Glenn Beck.

01:15:34.600 President Trump just got finished with his address to the United Nations.

01:15:40.600 As expected, went strong in North Korea.

01:15:43.420 Quote, if the righteous many don't confront the wicked few, then evil will triumph.

01:15:49.100 End quote.

01:15:49.880 That is a great line.

01:15:52.260 But what happens if, from Trump's perspective, there's a lack of righteous many willing to step forward?

01:15:58.520 Does that mean America is willing to go it alone?

01:16:03.260 According to his speech today at the United Nations, it kind of sounds like it.

01:16:09.620 He, he said a phrase that made my blood run a little chilly.

01:16:15.960 That if the United States is, quote, forced to defend itself and its allies, we will have no choice but to totally destroy North Korea. 0.94

01:16:24.580 Holy cow. 0.89

01:16:27.580 What?

01:16:29.020 What?

01:16:30.400 Now that is either a whole lot of bravado or this situation is on the verge of spiraling, spiraling out of control.

01:16:36.520 Yesterday, Defense Secretary Mattis said that kinetic military options that could ensure the safety of Seoul were viable and on the table.

01:16:46.680 I'm, I'm curious.

01:16:47.920 Is the survival of the South Korean capital the only thing holding Trump back here?

01:16:55.900 Because we, we know that a nuclear armed North Korea doesn't threaten South Korea.

01:17:01.480 Kim Jong-un is not going to nuke Seoul with an ICBM.

01:17:06.280 That's the threat the United States has to deal with.

01:17:11.160 Perhaps the statement at the end of his speech was a hint to South Korea.

01:17:15.600 He said, quote, in foreign affairs, we are renewing this founding principle of sovereignty.

01:17:22.780 This is such a great line.

01:17:24.880 As president, I will always put America first, just like you as leaders of your countries will always do.

01:17:31.880 And you always should put your country first.

01:17:36.080 All responsible leaders have an obligation to serve their own citizens.

01:17:41.160 Our government's first duty is to its people, end quote.

01:17:45.600 I'm not sure if we are nearing the end game in this standoff.

01:17:52.040 I'm not sure.

01:17:53.340 But I do know it's not making me more comfortable every day that goes by.

01:18:00.580 Ultimately, it may come down to an outcome we have not seen since World War II.

01:18:07.080 And if it does, the world changes dramatically overnight.

01:18:12.780 Let us all pray that cooler heads will prevail.

01:18:25.940 It's Tuesday, September 19th.

01:18:28.400 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

01:18:30.420 Bill O'Reilly has a new book out.

01:18:31.760 Before we get into that, I just want to get his real quick take on the speech.

01:18:34.940 If you had a chance to see it today, Bill, did you have a chance to watch it or listen to it at all?

01:18:39.900 I thought, I thought.

01:18:40.840 What did you think?

01:18:42.040 Well, I thought it was okay.

01:18:44.340 I mean, I don't think that the president made any friends there because that's not a body that likes authoritarian capitalism.

01:18:57.220 Yes.

01:18:57.360 So, you know, and one of the telling moments was when he was excoriating, word of the day, excoriating communism and socialism.

01:19:06.080 And he paused, thinking, was waiting for a little applause, stone, silence.

01:19:11.860 You know, he's like, okay, this crew is not, you know, they're not type A Americans and they're not. 0.99

01:19:19.880 But on the North Korean thing, I do believe that the president is setting up some military action.

01:19:29.200 I don't think it's going to be a catastrophic strike.

01:19:33.380 It would be more like an in the middle strike.

01:19:37.060 But if the guy doesn't stop shooting ICBMs at other countries, then one is going to go right up his nose.

01:19:46.040 It's bound to happen.

01:19:48.440 So Trump is trying to play the tough guy, not only to the U.N., but to North Korea and say, look, I'm not playing with you.

01:19:56.640 Because everybody knew that Barack Obama would never do that no matter what happened.

01:20:00.320 Yeah, that's why I think the strategy, the line, we will have no choice but to totally destroy North Korea is is a little terrifying. 0.54

01:20:08.180 Let's let's move to your book real quick.

01:20:09.760 Your new book comes out, Killing England.

01:20:11.540 It's out today.

01:20:12.260 The brutal struggle for American independence.

01:20:15.160 And if you are a longtime listener of this program, you know that the importance of history, probably better than most audiences.

01:20:23.000 And getting that history into not only your hands, but the hands of your children and your grandchildren is crucial.

01:20:30.940 Bill has written a great book, Killing England, the brutal struggle for American independence, where he is.

01:20:36.400 He is taking all of the founders and showing who they really, really are.

01:20:43.060 I want to take you here to I think it's page 158 where you're talking about Benjamin Franklin in Paris.

01:20:50.100 And he realizes that he's going to end up living in France for a long, a long time.

01:20:57.620 And he he takes up residence in a chateau.

01:21:00.860 And at first that kind of bothers him, but he gets kind of used to it.

01:21:05.260 And he becomes a very important person in France.

01:21:08.040 Can you take me through that?

01:21:09.660 Sure.

01:21:10.160 And then he wears a hat, the famous Franklin hat, the fur hat.

01:21:14.380 And everybody in Paris starts to wear the hat and they're they're they're selling them all over the place.

01:21:20.840 Franklin made this arduous voyage across the Atlantic six times.

01:21:26.460 And we take you through that voyage.

01:21:28.540 When you feel when you see what these people had to go through just to get from America to Europe, it was amazing.

01:21:36.180 The pain and suffering of the voyage himself.

01:21:39.560 So then he's in Paris and he's trying to convince the French to come into the side of the war on the Americans.

01:21:47.900 And he finally did.

01:21:49.500 But in the meantime, he's Hugh Hefner.

01:21:51.600 He turns into Hugh Hefner.

01:21:52.960 He's running around with all the French widows over there having a great time. 0.75

01:21:59.140 And he had a lot of leisure time because there's only so much time the king would give him to Badger, you know, send the French troops.

01:22:07.240 So Franklin had a very, very interesting social life in Paris.

01:22:12.180 Bill, here in Dallas, they were talking yesterday.

01:22:15.200 There was a story out that the Dallas Independent School District is thinking about dropping the name of Franklin.

01:22:21.960 Yeah.

01:22:22.660 Yeah.

01:22:23.360 He was one of the.

01:22:24.260 I wanted to ask you about that, Beck.

01:22:26.040 Is this real?

01:22:27.260 I worked in Dallas for two years.

01:22:29.320 It's real.

01:22:29.820 I can't imagine it.

01:22:31.080 It's real.

01:22:31.980 The school district, not only Benjamin Franklin, but Madison, Jefferson, and Washington.

01:22:37.200 I know.

01:22:38.440 And thinking about changing the names of the school.

01:22:40.480 For what reason?

01:22:42.000 Because slave owners. 0.99

01:22:44.000 They have absolutely no idea who Franklin in particular really was.

01:22:49.380 Yeah, Franklin didn't have slaves.

01:22:49.940 Not only didn't he have slaves, he was one of the first abolitionists.

01:22:53.140 He was probably the most important abolitionist of his day.

01:22:57.860 Well, this is why killing England is so vital, because the only people who can stop this are the folks, locally.

01:23:05.480 And you have to know who Jefferson, Washington, and Franklin really were as men.

01:23:11.340 And we get into that in the book.

01:23:13.320 But this is insane.

01:23:14.920 In the Dallas that I worked in in the 1970s, this never could have happened in a million years.

01:23:20.680 What's next?

01:23:21.440 The Alamo has to come down now?

01:23:23.720 Is that what's next?

01:23:24.760 There are school districts here in Texas that you can't teach the Alamo because it's racially insensitive.

01:23:29.800 Oh, my God.

01:23:30.660 This is madness.

01:23:31.660 Yeah.

01:23:32.020 And it's all over here in New York.

01:23:33.820 They want to take down Columbus Circle.

01:23:36.040 Columbus Day has already been knocked out in L.A.

01:23:38.160 It's now Indigenous Peoples Day. 0.99

01:23:40.240 And these morons out in L.A., they have no idea what the Indigenous Peoples did to one another in their warfare. 0.99

01:23:46.900 They enslaved the losing tribes. 0.99

01:23:49.780 I mean, this is crazy stuff so that I'm appealing to people not only to buy the book because you'll like it and have fun reading it, but because you need it to defend your communities against the PC far-left brigades that are on the march.

01:24:06.540 You know, at the end, we talked about this on your show.

01:24:09.860 You know what the end result here is, Beck, don't you?

01:24:12.060 Yeah, the fundamental transformation and destruction of the country and the Western way of life.

01:24:19.140 The Constitution.

01:24:20.820 The Constitution.

01:24:21.800 This is why all this is happening, so your listeners understand.

01:24:25.860 After Trump got elected and they lost, the PC far-left lost, they said, we have to fundamentally change the Constitution.

01:24:35.040 So what are we going to do?

01:24:36.220 We're going to brand it white supremacists.

01:24:39.900 That's why you're hearing this.

01:24:42.060 They're going to say, this Constitution was forged by white supremacists and is no longer relevant in our inclusive society.

01:24:52.180 We need to start over.

01:24:54.460 We need to get the electoral college out.

01:24:57.100 All the things that capitalism does, we need to knock that out.

01:25:02.580 We shouldn't have checks and balances on people.

01:25:06.720 That's the end game here.

01:25:08.460 A new Constitution.

01:25:10.520 A new country.

01:25:11.540 And these people are relentless and they're starting with the history.

01:25:15.220 You know, it's amazing to me.

01:25:16.520 Yesterday, the blaze ran a story of somebody on Facebook that tweeted something from Hobby Lobby.

01:25:22.160 It was a vase with a cotton plant coming out like flowers.

01:25:28.640 And the woman who was really offended by it and said, you know, this was this is an ode to slavery and all of this nonsense.

01:25:35.480 And the take on the blaze yesterday was, you know, this is an important story.

01:25:41.360 And it's an important story because if you look at Maslow's hierarchy of needs, nobody, nobody gets to I'm really offended by that vase of cotton in Hobby Lobby unless your life is pretty sweet.

01:25:56.520 All of the things that are we're complaining about are embarrassing, embarrassing when you look at what's what's really happening around the world and the struggle that is just around the corner for all of us.

01:26:08.020 Well, again, it's the individual American that's got to decide, do you want to hold on to your country?

01:26:17.380 Do you want to hold on to historical figures?

01:26:19.780 Do you want to hold on to America's traditions?

01:26:21.720 Or do you want to let these HUNS, H-U-N-S, HUNS, who are coming in to destroy everything win? 1.00

01:26:30.060 And it is look, it extends into the media because the media is sympathetic with this with this change.

01:26:36.440 It extends everywhere.

01:26:38.200 And people have got to start to wise up and bolt up and educate themselves about history and current events.

01:26:45.240 Tell me a little bit about before we leave Franklin.

01:26:47.940 I am sorry to say, I was not up on Franklin saying, you've got to give us Canada.

01:26:57.720 I wasn't aware of that.

01:27:00.380 Tell that story.

01:27:01.620 Look, Franklin was a very canny negotiator.

01:27:05.000 He never thought he was going to get Canada.

01:27:07.560 But he went in and he basically said to the British government, to the king, we want to stay with you.

01:27:15.760 You know, Franklin was not, it was not Sam and John Adams.

01:27:19.700 He wasn't.

01:27:20.820 He wanted to stay, but he wanted to stay on America's terms. 0.65

01:27:25.360 And his vision was that the United States, the new country, would control the northern part of the Americas.

01:27:34.080 So it was all about that.

01:27:36.440 But Franklin was a visionary and he saw that the king was never, ever going to be reasonable so that he said, all right, we have to fight.

01:27:47.300 But here's the compelling part about Franklin in the book.

01:27:50.460 He and his son, William Franklin, hated each other because William Franklin stayed loyal to the king.

01:27:56.720 And he was the governor of New Jersey.

01:27:58.480 And Benjamin Franklin had his own son thrown into one of the worst prisons the colonies had in Connecticut.

01:28:06.540 Benjamin Franklin made that happen.

01:28:08.860 And the two never reconciled.

01:28:11.500 And it broke Benjamin Franklin's heart.

01:28:14.240 But he did it.

01:28:15.420 He did it in his mind for the revolution.

01:28:18.620 And he did it.

01:28:19.580 It did break his heart.

01:28:20.940 And then, you know, throughout, Thomas Paine felt that Franklin was like his dad.

01:28:29.020 And they had this father-son relationship where Franklin had lost his son, who was in prison.

01:28:36.180 And then in the end, he felt betrayed by Thomas Paine as well.

01:28:42.020 He's a tragic figure in many ways.

01:28:45.180 Yeah.

01:28:45.620 Franklin, you know, lived a long, long life.

01:28:49.220 And he's perhaps the most creative politician has ever been in America.

01:28:54.160 But he was a stormy guy.

01:28:56.220 He was a very stormy guy.

01:28:58.400 What do you mean?

01:28:58.860 What do you mean?

01:28:59.400 He was the most creative.

01:29:01.840 Because I don't know.

01:29:03.440 Oh, yeah.

01:29:04.420 You said the most creative politician.

01:29:06.100 First of all, I've never thought of him as a politician.

01:29:10.240 But what do you mean by that?

01:29:12.380 Well, he was very canny in the way he manipulated people.

01:29:15.700 And he got the French finally to come in on our side, which is a miracle. 1.00

01:29:20.340 He was behind the scenes when the Constitution was forged in Philadelphia.

01:29:24.300 He used his power with the Pennsylvania militia to help Washington, who was like foundering.

01:29:31.060 So he was deeply involved in politics.

01:29:33.100 And he was so creative.

01:29:34.860 His suggestions to Thomas Jefferson, never credited to him, gave us pretty much the Bill of Rights and all of this.

01:29:42.620 But he was a conflicted man, very sensitive man.

01:29:46.260 And that if he thought that you were slighting him, as he did at the end with Tom Paine, then he would kind of withdraw from you.

01:29:55.020 We know a lot of people like that today.

01:29:56.680 But they're fascinating individuals, all of them.

01:30:00.320 And they're not perfect.

01:30:02.220 They're, you know, it's totality of a person's life.

01:30:06.300 Everybody is a sinner.

01:30:08.120 All of us are sinners.

01:30:09.240 But to try to destroy our legacy and to denigrate these men that I write about in Killing England, I think that's just sinful.

01:30:18.420 A crime, a social crime.

01:30:20.700 I'm going to fight it all away.

01:30:22.240 Bill, I've only got about a minute left here, but let me ask you this.

01:30:28.460 If I took Stephen Hawking, Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Elon Musk, and put them in a room, which is a more impressive group of minds?

01:30:41.960 Those minds or Jefferson, Franklin, Washington, Adams, Madison?

01:30:49.180 The latter, because there was no structure.

01:30:55.820 They started it from scratch, whereas the moguls that you refer to take advantage of our structure to progress and create things.

01:31:06.780 These men that I write about in Killing England, they started it from nothing. 0.53

01:31:11.740 The name of the book is Killing England, another New York Times number one bestseller.

01:31:16.800 I'm sure it is out today.

01:31:18.140 The Brutal Struggle for American Independence.

01:31:20.540 You can get it wherever books are sold, also at BillOReilly.com.

01:31:24.120 Bill, I'll see you on Friday.

01:31:25.880 Okay, back.

01:31:26.660 Thanks again.

01:31:27.260 We really appreciate it.

01:31:28.580 You bet.

01:31:28.940 Thanks, buddy.

01:31:29.680 Bye.

01:31:29.880 By the way, Killing England, Brutal Struggle for American Independence is available everywhere, as you point out. 0.52

01:31:39.980 We have the prep for the interview, and it says,

01:31:41.560 Our goal, to further the part of our mission to serve the audience by teaching history.

01:31:45.780 O'Reilly's goal, promote his book and annoy Glenn.

01:31:49.440 That's legitimately what it says.

01:31:51.060 And it worked.

01:31:51.740 It actually happened.

01:31:52.240 It did.

01:31:52.520 He's got 17 million books in print on the Just the Killing series.

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01:33:25.160 Glenn Beck.

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01:33:32.440 Glad you've joined us.

01:33:49.540 We are trying to do better by you.

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01:33:57.180 We're trying to give you the things that you need every day, anywhere from the information

01:34:02.880 you need to perspective that you need, and also a few laughs.

01:34:07.620 And speaking of that, Pat's going to be joining us here in just a second.

01:34:11.140 But it's been quite a process, and I don't care what anybody says about us in the press,

01:34:17.660 but I want you to know what we're doing and to see the process, because by you knowing what

01:34:24.720 we're trying to do, we'll help us.

01:34:27.380 Last night at 5 o'clock on the Blaze TV, we did behind the scenes and given permission

01:34:33.300 for unprecedented access to absolutely every meeting here over the last couple of months

01:34:39.680 for cameras to document.

01:34:42.860 And originally, I did it because I wanted to document it for the company, so the company

01:34:46.900 I wouldn't have to have meetings over and over again.

01:34:48.740 People could understand it and go back and go, wait a minute, what did he say?

01:34:51.840 What did he mean by that?

01:34:52.580 But we've decided to bring you in on the process because it has been fascinating.

01:34:57.380 Last night, we went through, and you can watch this on demand, the radio show, and why we're

01:35:02.700 doing things on the radio show that we're doing and where we're headed with that.

01:35:08.440 Tonight, it's all about TV.

01:35:10.660 And what I believe TV is, what is happening to TV, you know, right now, MSNBC is thrilling

01:35:18.580 that they're number one, but their ratings are about half the size of what Bill O'Reilly

01:35:23.080 had.

01:35:23.520 So it's nothing to be thrilled about. 1.00

01:35:26.360 You're still, you suck. 1.00

01:35:29.080 You still suck. 1.00

01:35:30.360 You just happen to be number one. 1.00

01:35:31.860 People are tuning out in droves.

01:35:33.620 Why is that?

01:35:35.340 And how do we combat that?

01:35:37.180 Tonight, five o'clock, what's it like to pitch a TV show to me, the behind the scenes?

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01:35:51.500 The host of the ever-popular and thrill-fest, really.

01:35:58.680 Highly anticipated.

01:35:59.840 Highly anticipated.

01:36:00.600 Highly anticipated.

01:36:01.160 Yes, that's right.

01:36:01.820 Thrill-fest.

01:36:02.820 Pat Gray, who is joining us now.

01:36:04.940 Hello, Pat.

01:36:05.540 Hi.

01:36:06.300 Coming up on the show, we're going to talk about Nancy Pelosi and the dreamiest, dreaming

01:36:10.340 dreamers who ever dreamed a dream.

01:36:12.200 Yeah.

01:36:12.580 That's nice.

01:36:13.580 That's nice.

01:36:13.900 Beautiful.

01:36:14.500 Are you going to mention the people that interrupted her yesterday?

01:36:17.420 Yeah.

01:36:17.460 And what a surprise that is.

01:36:19.020 But they only do wonderful things.

01:36:20.320 So that was a wonderful thing.

01:36:21.700 It was very peaceful.

01:36:22.540 And in her little post interview about it, she actually says she was glad they did that.

01:36:27.560 It was good.

01:36:28.280 Oh, really?

01:36:28.520 Because nothing they do is bad.

01:36:29.940 Right.

01:36:30.200 You know, they're like sprites.

01:36:31.640 They're like happy little sprites who flit around and just cause good things to happen.

01:36:35.640 Yeah.

01:36:35.960 It's wonderful.

01:36:36.760 I love them.

01:36:37.460 I saw one of them said they were chanting something of the effect of all of us or none

01:36:41.160 of us.

01:36:41.900 It's like, great.

01:36:42.760 We agree.

01:36:43.240 Yeah.

01:36:43.460 None of you.

01:36:44.180 Right.

01:36:44.540 Bye-bye.

01:36:45.220 Right.

01:36:45.600 Just see you later.

01:36:46.220 Yeah.

01:36:46.440 And see, that's your thing.

01:36:47.440 It's not good enough for just them.

01:36:48.800 They want their parents.

01:36:49.600 They want their cousins.

01:36:50.460 They want their uncles and aunts and everybody else.

01:36:53.060 Said from the beginning, if you grant amnesty to the dreamers, the sprites in our society, 0.97

01:36:59.500 you also must grant to 20 million others.

01:37:02.440 You have to.

01:37:02.780 It's just going to happen.

01:37:03.560 Yeah.

01:37:03.760 It will just have to happen.

01:37:05.220 You have to.

01:37:06.140 Yeah.

01:37:06.500 You have to.

01:37:07.000 Because you can't separate families and all of that stuff.

01:37:09.020 We stumbled onto something yesterday.

01:37:11.300 The conservative review came out with their list of the 25 biggest rhinos and then the

01:37:17.260 25 best conservatives in office right now.

01:37:19.920 So, it crossed Senate and House lines.

01:37:22.800 And it's no surprise who's on either list.

01:37:25.040 It's all the suspects you would expect.

01:37:27.500 Like, you know, John McCain was number one rhino.

01:37:31.900 Susan Collins was on there.

01:37:33.280 And the list of all the usual suspects.

01:37:35.820 And then Mike Lee was the most conservative.

01:37:38.380 Rand Paul was in the top five.

01:37:40.420 So, it's all the same people.

01:37:41.840 But what we found pretty interesting was just something that confirmed everything we believe.

01:37:46.260 That the longer you're in office, the worse you get.

01:37:50.180 The 25 biggest rhinos had been in office an average of 19.5 years.

01:37:56.700 Almost 20 years on the average.

01:38:00.320 For the best conservatives, five.

01:38:03.320 Five years.

01:38:04.180 So, let me ask you this.

01:38:06.280 Because I do agree with you.

01:38:07.620 The longer you're in.

01:38:08.560 And this is why studies show.

01:38:10.260 The worst.

01:38:11.260 It's time for term limits.

01:38:12.540 Yeah.

01:38:12.700 The worst progressives in the conservative realm are usually former military people.

01:38:21.560 And that's because they came up in the ranks of the government being in charge.

01:38:26.560 And so, they see everything through that lens.

01:38:30.860 So, if you're a former military man, you have a greater chance of being a progressive and a rhino. 0.92

01:38:38.740 It's really interesting, though.

01:38:39.840 Yeah, it is.

01:38:40.420 It is.

01:38:40.760 It's a little bit, you know, antithetical.

01:38:43.440 You wouldn't believe it would be that way.

01:38:44.960 Because you would think the military people are more conservative.

01:38:47.740 You know, they're just used to it.

01:38:48.740 And it's not a bad thing.

01:38:49.500 They just see the world in that way.

01:38:51.540 They see the government as, okay, well, we do it this way.

01:38:54.500 And so, the government will move it that way.

01:38:57.020 The other thing, though, to look at is I agree with you that the longer you're in, the worse you get.

01:39:08.320 I agree with that.

01:39:09.400 However, may I also pose this question?

01:39:12.000 Is it because, is it also because the greater conservatives are in less than five years?

01:39:22.840 Is that possible?

01:39:23.920 Because we, for the very first time in my lifetime, are really, truly electing those conservatives.

01:39:30.640 We are searching and we have beat the trees to get those conservatives in there.

01:39:36.180 It does correspond with the Tea Party movement and all of that.

01:39:38.660 So, yeah, I think in part that's probably true.

01:39:40.540 I mean, you know, Mike Lee is, he's number one conservative with a hundred percent rating.

01:39:45.860 A hundred percent rating.

01:39:46.720 I mean, you know, he came, he was part of the Tea Party movement.

01:39:50.400 Yeah.

01:39:50.820 Rand Paul, part of the Tea Party movement.

01:39:52.760 Right.

01:39:52.960 Justin Amash, part of the Tea Party movement.

01:39:54.760 We created those guys.

01:39:56.980 I mean, we looked for those guys.

01:39:59.400 And on the other side of the aisle, the Rhinos, you have like Orrin Hatch, who ranked number five,

01:40:04.620 who is part of the Reconstruction movement, you know, immediately after the Civil War,

01:40:08.920 when he came into office.

01:40:10.420 Right.

01:40:11.160 Before Utah was even a state.

01:40:12.780 It's just it.

01:40:13.440 That's weird.

01:40:14.320 So, yeah, he's been beaten down.

01:40:16.740 The other thing is, I saw an interesting article, you know, on the right side of a website where

01:40:21.160 you're reading an article, then on the right, there's some really fascinating articles that

01:40:24.220 they try to get you to click on.

01:40:25.260 And so I actually clicked on one of them, and it was breaking news.

01:40:29.440 Okay.

01:40:30.240 And keep in mind, this was yesterday.

01:40:33.800 HGTV has ousted Joanna Gaines for breaking her contractual agreement.

01:40:37.720 Not even Chip knew what was going on.

01:40:40.160 News broke of this legal whirlwind just a few days ago.

01:40:43.580 Apparently, things have been going downhill for a while, but now it's safe to say the boat has sunken.

01:40:48.540 They're English, not mine. 0.99

01:40:49.660 It all started late last November when Joanna Gaines, host of the popular HGTV show Fixer

01:40:59.620 Upper, signed a deal with Shark Tank's Lori Greiner.

01:41:02.080 None of this happened.

01:41:02.940 None of this happened.

01:41:03.720 This is the most incredible thing.

01:41:05.600 I can't get over it.

01:41:06.880 I know we've been talking about it for a while.

01:41:08.560 No, I don't.

01:41:09.060 I can't get over how outrageous this is in America.

01:41:11.700 I was on Daily Wire this weekend, and it said, breaking news, scandal with Rush Limbaugh, something

01:41:21.160 happened in his last hour, and he finally speaks out.

01:41:24.360 And I'm like, what the?

01:41:25.620 What?

01:41:26.540 I click on it.

01:41:28.780 Facial cream? 0.85

01:41:29.500 No.

01:41:30.260 Apparently, Rush shocked his audience today, whatever day you're going to read this story,

01:41:36.300 today, in his final hour, by talking about his ED problem and the cream that he now uses.

01:41:43.140 Oh, my gosh.

01:41:43.300 I couldn't believe it.

01:41:44.380 I thought to myself, how is this happening?

01:41:48.520 Oh, my gosh.

01:41:49.400 How can you put these things out that are clearly not true?

01:41:56.580 Absolute, total lies.

01:41:58.340 They make up, out of whole cloth, entire stories and storylines, interviews that didn't happen,

01:42:04.420 quotes that they attribute to people that they never said.

01:42:08.720 How can this be in America?

01:42:10.180 And you have no recourse, apparently, because this has been going on for how many years?

01:42:14.500 We have, when we pulled it down myself, because I thought about Joanna Gaines, and I'm like,

01:42:20.740 that is not true.

01:42:22.480 How is this running on my own website?

01:42:25.720 Well, it happens because you enter contracts with companies, and these companies say, I'm going

01:42:31.980 to fill this box on your website.

01:42:34.420 And so, you don't sign the individual ads.

01:42:37.760 You don't sign the individual ads.

01:42:38.540 You don't see any of them.

01:42:38.840 You sign a company, and they sell that one thing.

01:42:41.120 And they sell whatever they can sell.

01:42:42.780 Right.

01:42:43.000 They sell whatever they, yeah.

01:42:44.380 And you expect them to have certain ethics and standards.

01:42:48.180 Well, we don't work with that one that doesn't have those ethical standards anymore.

01:42:53.700 However, it's easy, apparently, it is easy to get caught up in this because they just

01:42:59.980 slipped through because there's no, it's machine.

01:43:03.520 It's AI.

01:43:04.240 So, it's just going out and pulling that one in here.

01:43:07.020 So, it's not really a person.

01:43:09.640 And so, it's this weird thing that when they start to track it down, you call the ad agency

01:43:15.100 and say, how the hell could you put that on?

01:43:16.620 They'll say, well, okay, first of all, we didn't.

01:43:18.840 Let's check that out.

01:43:19.960 Let's find out.

01:43:21.060 They'll check it out.

01:43:21.820 And then they'll say, okay, it's whack-a-mole.

01:43:25.360 We put a block up.

01:43:26.480 It won't come here.

01:43:27.160 Well, they find a way to work around that in the system.

01:43:31.780 And it just pops in because, again, it's a machine.

01:43:34.220 It's the unintended consequences of modern technology.

01:43:37.400 Yeah.

01:43:37.520 And you can't track down the company?

01:43:39.860 Is there no way to at least get to the vendor?

01:43:42.280 And then they can tell you whose spots they're promoting?

01:43:46.880 I will tell you that Joanna Gaines, we've talked about this.

01:43:49.280 Joanna Gaines' attorney called us after we pulled it off.

01:43:52.180 And they said, help us.

01:43:53.600 Tell us who these are. 0.98

01:43:56.480 They've got to be crazy. 0.96

01:43:57.180 They're pissed off about this. 1.00

01:43:58.300 They should be.

01:43:59.020 And the worst part about it is that when Joanna Gaines does leave for facial cream,

01:44:04.020 no one's going to believe it.

01:44:06.460 And their facial cream company is going to fail.

01:44:09.200 Right.

01:44:09.440 I know.

01:44:10.080 That's the biggest concern here.

01:44:11.680 You could be on your doorstep selling it door-to-door, and you're like, get out of here.

01:44:20.940 Hey, did you see the president's speech today?

01:44:25.880 I watched 30 seconds of it.

01:44:28.280 Really?

01:44:28.920 Yeah.

01:44:29.120 So you're going to really delve into that one.

01:44:31.840 Big time.

01:44:32.400 Deeply.

01:44:32.980 Big time.

01:44:33.440 One great line.

01:44:34.000 Trump and the UN are both right up my alley.

01:44:37.420 He did have, but he added some good lines in there.

01:44:40.200 I'll give you this one.

01:44:40.880 The problem in Venezuela is not that socialism has been poorly implemented, but that socialism

01:44:46.160 has been faithfully implemented.

01:44:48.260 Oh, nice.

01:44:48.780 It's a great line.

01:44:49.640 He had some really good lines.

01:44:51.260 Oh, that's great.

01:44:51.860 Who wrote that for him?

01:44:52.800 This guy who left and then started selling facial cream.

01:44:57.020 I don't know, but it had some great, really, truly tremendous lines in it.

01:45:04.500 I mean, epic.

01:45:05.260 Ronald Reagan-style lines.

01:45:07.760 Wow.

01:45:08.180 Yeah. 0.57

01:45:08.880 Some scary things like, we're going to have no choice but to utterly destroy North Korea. 0.68

01:45:14.960 I know.

01:45:15.920 They are making noise.

01:45:17.440 That's a possibility.

01:45:18.720 We might do a preemptive strike.

01:45:20.340 Oh, I've never thought that possible, but now it seems to be.

01:45:24.160 And a lot of the news channels are actually reporting it that way with just, you know,

01:45:29.380 that part of it.

01:45:30.240 He did lead up to it, however, and you mentioned this earlier, that he said, if we are attacked

01:45:35.120 or our allies are attacked, we will have to have no choice but to totally destroy North

01:45:39.260 Korea.

01:45:40.180 And I mean, let's be honest about it.

01:45:41.600 If they fire a missile at the United States of America, does anyone doubt that's what we're

01:45:46.040 going to do?

01:45:46.520 No.

01:45:46.700 We are going to absolutely flatten it.

01:45:48.240 But the problem will be, you know, you violate the airspace.

01:45:53.920 Right now, so far, they have not violated the airspace over Japan.

01:45:58.480 What they've done is they've flown so high that it's not in their airspace.

01:46:04.480 So they've flown it over their airspace as to not violate and then splashed down with their 0.88

01:46:10.200 trajectory towards Guam, but crashed down, splashed down before.

01:46:15.220 So the question is, if they come in low, do we fire?

01:46:22.260 I think the answer is yes.

01:46:23.940 You got to shoot it down.

01:46:25.640 But when it goes over the top of their airspace, I think we just ignore it and let it go.

01:46:30.740 But if it comes in low, you have to because you don't know where that's going.

01:46:33.880 And you know what's crazy is think about how much money these things are worth.

01:46:37.460 Oh, yeah.

01:46:37.780 And you know they're sitting with an empty nose cone.

01:46:39.980 Yeah.

01:46:40.300 I mean, they're not putting anything in it.

01:46:41.920 I mean, you know, they could probably be shipping, you know, citizens that rebelled.

01:46:47.120 A member of the Kim Jong-un family is in the nose cone going, let me out, let me out.

01:46:52.900 The only good part is, did you read the quote from Kim Jong-un the other day?

01:46:57.040 He said, something was just telling me that this is the next chapter in my life.

01:47:00.440 There are lots of skin products out there that didn't work for me.

01:47:03.160 So, I got some of the world's leading skit experts together to create Lumadere face cream.

01:47:09.000 And this one actually works.

01:47:10.900 So, I'm leaving my position to go sell face cream.

01:47:13.200 Wow.

01:47:13.520 Really?

01:47:14.100 Wait, you guys don't have the update on that.

01:47:15.800 Yeah.

01:47:16.120 Oh.

01:47:16.720 The problem with that was that call came into the White House.

01:47:20.820 But Donald Trump, believe it or not, was in the Rose Garden giving a speech about his erectile dysfunction.

01:47:27.400 Oh, no.

01:47:28.320 Yeah.

01:47:28.740 Oh, no.

01:47:29.340 It shocked a lot of people.

01:47:31.200 Wow, we could have saw that.

01:47:31.940 Dang it, foiled again.

01:47:33.060 Yeah.

01:47:33.600 Ah!

01:47:33.900 Ah!

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01:47:52.040 It's a new promo.

01:47:52.980 Really?

01:47:53.380 I don't think so.

01:47:54.140 That might be a little...

01:47:55.180 It's a little aggressive.

01:47:55.780 How about you don't subscribe to the podcast? 0.99

01:48:00.280 We have no choice but to utterly destroy you and your family. 0.98

01:48:04.100 Yeah, it's more... 0.99

01:48:05.180 It's, you know, it's...

01:48:05.660 That's clunky, though.

01:48:06.420 It's a little more lenient.

01:48:06.800 Yeah, and it's a little clunky.

01:48:08.260 I want to tell you about Bonnie and Michael's story.

01:48:10.040 Bonnie and Michael had a house in Ohio they were looking to sell for about a year.

01:48:14.580 Nothing was done.

01:48:15.880 The agent never called, never kept them posted.

01:48:18.120 They, you know...

01:48:19.580 Like, we all run busy lives and...

01:48:22.780 Quite honestly, we get so busy.

01:48:25.060 I don't know if this is just me, but we get so busy.

01:48:26.840 I do.

01:48:27.440 That I am more lenient on things.

01:48:31.040 Because I'm like, I don't know.

01:48:32.280 I haven't really had a chance to pay attention to that.

01:48:35.160 So I give people a little extra slack.

01:48:37.240 And before you know it, a year has gone by.

01:48:38.660 And you're like, okay, I...

01:48:40.000 No, you haven't even really done anything to sell my house.

01:48:43.720 So Bonnie and Michael wanted to make a change.

01:48:46.400 And they went with realestateagentsitrust.com because they listened to this program.

01:48:51.220 When they reached out, we immediately got on the phone.

01:48:54.120 We had two real estate agents, I think, reach out.

01:48:57.320 They got their real estate agent, Stacy.

01:49:00.000 And she got to work right away.

01:49:01.880 And in no time received an offer on the house.

01:49:04.660 Their house, they had been working with somebody else who kept giving them excuses

01:49:08.260 or not contacting for a year.

01:49:11.960 Stacy at realestateagentsitrust.com gets involved.

01:49:15.380 The house sold in two weeks.

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01:49:19.160 You want this monkey off your back.

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01:49:41.960 Glenn Beck.

01:49:46.960 Glenn Beck.

01:49:49.160 Rocket Man is on a suicide mission for himself and for his regime.

01:49:55.940 The United States is ready, willing, and able.

01:50:00.160 But hopefully, this will not be necessary.

01:50:04.120 That's what the United Nations is all about.

01:50:08.720 That's what the United Nations is for.

01:50:13.340 Let's see how they do.

01:50:15.240 You know, maybe it's just me, but I prefer my world leader not to nickname other world

01:50:25.400 leaders.

01:50:26.520 You have the wrong president.

01:50:28.260 I know I do.

01:50:29.440 I know I do.

01:50:30.540 Is that, you know, if I could just say one thing, could I just get that?

01:50:35.500 When you're at the United Nations, you don't make, you don't refer to people with nicknames.

01:50:42.120 Maybe.

01:50:43.020 If I had one thing to take, I think I'd take something else.

01:50:46.020 Like, keep the nicknames and I'll take something else.

01:50:48.120 But he's not.

01:50:49.360 I will say that speech read a lot better than at least the clips I've heard from it, because

01:50:55.460 we were obviously on the air as it was going on.

01:50:57.280 Well, he's not a good speech giver.

01:50:59.080 He's not a good prompter guy, right?

01:51:00.460 I mean, you know, that's, and that's honestly not a big knock on him at all.

01:51:04.860 Very few people are.

01:51:06.020 It's hard to do.

01:51:06.920 First of all, George Bush was, I mean, name the last one.

01:51:10.040 Bill Clinton was okay.

01:51:12.140 I think Barack Obama would be the one people would point to.

01:51:14.940 Yeah, he was, he was very good.

01:51:16.360 But after a while, it just, there was nothing real there.

01:51:19.880 You never, you never felt that it was real.

01:51:22.720 Right.

01:51:22.940 I'd rather have a president just, you know, talking honestly from the heart to be honest,

01:51:28.220 you know, to be frank about it.

01:51:29.300 If you look at Ronald Reagan, Ronald Reagan was a guy who used notes, and a lot of times

01:51:34.660 you would see him using the notes, and he would look down at his notes and then back

01:51:38.600 up.

01:51:39.540 Ronald Reagan was the last guy, I think, that we had that could actually take what he wanted

01:51:47.380 to say, knowing the ins and outs of all of it, and then translate it in a way that

01:51:54.700 Americans could hear.

01:51:55.900 I think Barack Obama was good at that, but he could only really translate it, most times

01:52:01.640 unscripted, in ways that only some Americans could hear, not all Americans.

01:52:05.960 Right.

01:52:06.260 Barack Obama was a reader.

01:52:08.200 You know, he went up and did those speeches and what he was known for, and I was never in

01:52:11.580 love with his style either.

01:52:12.640 But, I mean, for people who liked that style, he was reading soaring speeches that were well

01:52:17.440 written by somebody else most of the time.

01:52:19.080 Yeah.

01:52:19.120 You know, I'd prefer, if given the choice, someone who just speaks from the heart and

01:52:25.600 knows it.

01:52:27.180 You know, I mean, you look at some of the, I mean, you know, this is a small example,

01:52:30.140 but Mick Mulvaney, who is the guy who is the director of the budget for Trump, is that.

01:52:36.300 Ask him any question about anything, and he could just go off on it, because he knows

01:52:39.380 it so, so well.

01:52:44.320 Glenn Beck.

The Glenn Beck Program - September 19, 2017

9⧸19⧸17 - Patience and Complexity' (Duane Wilde, Tristan Harris & Bill O'Reilly join Glenn)

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