The Glenn Beck Program - 9⧸21⧸17 - Free Speech Crisis (Saul Hansell & David Meade join Glenn)

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00:00:09.960 Love. Courage. Truth. Glenn Beck.

00:00:15.280 Does the First Amendment protect hate speech?

00:00:18.400 That is what U.S. college students were asked last month in a nationwide study to gauge their understanding of the First Amendment.

00:00:26.340 Is hate speech covered?

00:00:27.720 The results are not exactly encouraging.

00:00:32.400 44% of college students say, nope, it's not.

00:00:35.980 Nearly half.

00:00:37.580 Hate speech is not covered and protected under the First Amendment.

00:00:41.720 16% said, I don't really know.

00:00:46.660 In hopes that some of these students may be listening, the correct answer is, unfortunately, yes, the First Amendment does protect what society deems hate speech.

00:00:58.300 You might find the speech totally disgusting, totally revolting, absolutely wrong.

00:01:03.660 But hate speech is indeed protected by our Constitution.

00:01:07.600 And if you don't understand why the protection of the worst kind of speech is absolutely vital, then we need a ton of remedial education.

00:01:18.280 And I think we do.

00:01:20.600 If there is a speaker on campus that students consider offensive, 51% said it's okay for the student group to shout over the audience, shout over the speaker so the audience can't hear him.

00:01:35.060 51%.

00:01:35.640 Even worse, 19% of college students said it's okay to use violence to keep a controversial speaker from speaking on campus.

00:01:46.120 19%.

00:01:46.760 This has to have both Antifa and neo-Nazis salivating.

00:01:58.120 Students and Americans, here's another constitutional right you may not know about.

00:02:02.220 You have the right to not listen to speakers that offend you.

00:02:08.800 This advice is especially handy for Berkeley students.

00:02:13.200 Next week, during their free speech week, stay home.

00:02:18.160 Read a book.

00:02:18.800 Hang out with friends.

00:02:20.380 Go to a concert.

00:02:21.760 Study at a library.

00:02:23.220 Have your own speech someplace.

00:02:24.540 Whatever.

00:02:25.980 Just don't cave into the lie that you must physically restrain anyone who offends you.

00:02:34.720 There is no such thing as a safe zone.

00:02:39.320 If there is a safe zone, then no one is ever safe.

00:02:44.440 Because the minute that 51% of society says, you know what, I don't like your speech, you're not safe.

00:02:51.360 The study shows that we have out-of-control progressivism.

00:02:59.720 We have out-of-control Marxism.

00:03:03.080 It's easy to mock.

00:03:04.880 It's easy to blame.

00:03:06.240 It's easy to point fingers.

00:03:09.060 But now what do we do about it?

00:03:11.900 How do you fix such ignorance?

00:03:14.100 Well, the first thing we do is stop mocking each other.

00:03:21.340 Start trying to find ways to talk to one another.

00:03:25.100 To have actual conversations.

00:03:27.540 And I'm not talking about the 20% that are the Nazis or the Marxist revolutionaries.

00:03:33.900 I'm talking about the 80%. 0.83

00:03:36.900 The 80% of the American people who don't want to live this way.

00:03:43.760 Who can listen to their neighbor and roll their eyes and be like, okay, we got a crazy neighbor.

00:03:49.780 But they will still help their neighbor.

00:03:51.480 They will still love their neighbor.

00:03:55.240 The way to do this is we have to make sure that our own house is in order first.

00:03:59.220 First, first of all, parents, you cannot assume that your children are learning the Constitution at school because they are not.

00:04:07.620 And if we don't pass the torch on the basic American freedoms in our own home,

00:04:15.840 you can be sure most schools and universities are not going to get the job done.

00:04:29.220 It's Thursday, September 21st.

00:04:35.420 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:04:39.740 Two more days till the end of the world.

00:04:41.980 Just counting down.

00:04:43.260 No.

00:04:43.740 And actually, I don't think that's actually what...

00:04:45.680 I don't think that's what the guy who he came up with a theory of September 23rd is actually even saying.

00:04:52.920 Jason is our head researcher, and this has been going on as a joke between all of us until yesterday because I said, you know what, Jason, would you just do the research and tell me exactly what people who believe this, the organizers, what they actually believe.

00:05:12.060 Do they believe that we're going through some sort of a portal or a threshold that we're crossing a point that is pointed out in the book of Revelation?

00:05:21.900 Or are they saying the end of the world is coming?

00:05:24.640 I got to say, I did not want to look into this when we first brought this up.

00:05:28.740 I was hoping that maybe you'd forget about it.

00:05:31.120 No, no.

00:05:32.000 I don't do that usually.

00:05:34.040 I was kind of hoping.

00:05:35.200 And so I went home that night and I saw this documentary and I was like, okay, fine.

00:05:39.640 I was going to watch the first five minutes, but it was actually so beautifully shot.

00:05:42.860 That actually drew me in more than anything else.

00:05:45.620 Listen to the litany of excuses we've received already in this conversation.

00:05:50.740 He didn't want to do it.

00:05:51.820 It was only the cinematography that got him into it.

00:05:55.220 I'm only reading it for the articles.

00:05:58.020 Not the pictures.

00:05:59.140 But I mean, as you know, we hear this all the time.

00:06:02.040 You know, it's like every other year.

00:06:03.380 I mean, the last time I think it was like so much hysteria was probably that Aztec calendar thing.

00:06:07.760 Yes.

00:06:08.040 And then the Shemitah and the Blood Moons.

00:06:10.980 And Harold Camping.

00:06:13.140 If you remember him, he was the guy that put up all the advertisements on the trains and the subways in New York City saying it was like May 21st.

00:06:18.640 Oh, that's right.

00:06:19.020 That's right.

00:06:19.700 Yeah.

00:06:19.900 That's right.

00:06:20.580 That's right.

00:06:21.220 That was good.

00:06:21.560 The world was going to end that day too.

00:06:22.860 And then they revised that one to September.

00:06:25.040 And that one, it didn't happen either time, by the way.

00:06:27.460 As a historian, I remember this.

00:06:29.300 He just got his math wrong.

00:06:30.320 Okay.

00:06:30.680 That's what happened.

00:06:31.320 So you know, the guy who actually is the brain behind this, the, what is he, a numerologist, the guy who's actually behind it, what's his name, David Mead?

00:06:43.400 And he is going to be joining us in about a half an hour.

00:06:46.240 And he is going to explain, because I don't think that I've heard, I've heard several versions and let's go through what you found out in your research.

00:06:55.400 But I've heard several versions.

00:06:56.780 One, Jesus is coming.

00:06:58.580 Two, it's the rapture.

00:07:02.420 Three, the most reasonable I've heard is this is a sign.

00:07:07.180 And it, it appears to be the sign in the book of Revelation that, that the times are coming, that this is, this is the time that it's starting.

00:07:16.480 Yeah.

00:07:16.840 And that one, I kind of could buy into.

00:07:19.500 I'm not saying that I do, but I could at least say, well, that's worth looking into.

00:07:24.120 Well, I, I wasn't giving it any credit at all, just hearing it on the surface.

00:07:27.760 But when I watched that documentary, I was like, okay, maybe crap.

00:07:33.780 This is the story of every 9-11 conspiracy theorist right here.

00:07:37.140 At first, I thought it was Islamic extreasonism, but then I saw loose change on YouTube.

00:07:42.080 Well, it's like, as, so as a Christian, you can see how this hysteria is building because the way, so the theory is, if you read Revelations 12, like actually, if you're at your Bible right now, flip the Revelation 12 and just see, see this really quick.

00:07:58.020 Because in Revelation 12, it talks about a great sign in heaven.

00:08:01.940 It talks about that a woman will be clothed in the sun and that the moon will be at her feet and in her womb or on her head will be a crown of 12 stars.

00:08:13.520 And then she will be appearing, she'll be in labor.

00:08:17.160 She will be with child and she will be in labor.

00:08:18.960 And it will be a labor, it will be a boy, right?

00:08:21.780 A man child. 0.92

00:08:22.660 Yes.

00:08:23.040 Okay.

00:08:23.380 Right.

00:08:24.060 So you're, so you, you obviously have to see this as something that is, you know, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, there's not going to be a woman up in the sky.

00:08:37.260 What is the woman? 0.93

00:08:39.120 So how is she clothed with the sun and what is the man child?

00:08:42.720 Okay.

00:08:43.180 So hold on your steering wheel.

00:08:46.880 I'm just saying, well, do I let go of my Bible or my steering wheel?

00:08:50.600 Which one do I?

00:08:51.840 So on September 23rd, now this has never happened before.

00:08:56.220 It will never happen again.

00:08:58.260 That's the first alarming thing about this.

00:09:00.460 But did you get that from the documentary?

00:09:03.920 Or did you get that from now?

00:09:06.080 Did you check that stat out?

00:09:07.800 That appears to be true.

00:09:09.700 From what I can find out.

00:09:11.580 Did you check it out?

00:09:14.460 Okay.

00:09:15.100 All right.

00:09:15.500 So there is, so Virgo will be in the sky on September 23rd.

00:09:20.760 So that is the Virgin of Virgo, which they're saying is, is representative of Mary is what

00:09:27.480 the people that believe in this are saying.

00:09:28.720 Okay.

00:09:29.260 So just on this day, usually Leo is right above Virgo, but there's nine stars in Leo.

00:09:36.340 But just on this day, Mercury, Mars, and Venus will look like stars and they're in perfect

00:09:41.880 alignment and they form 12 stars right above her head.

00:09:44.660 So to be clear, it's not 12 stars.

00:09:46.880 It's nine stars and three planets, but the three planets look like stars.

00:09:51.140 So we're supposed to understand that that's the 12 stars.

00:09:54.060 So, so to be fair, so to be fair, I'm understanding.

00:09:57.000 No, I never, you know, that is, you know, I can see this from both ways.

00:10:00.820 I could go, yes, Stu is technically accurate.

00:10:03.940 Those are, those are nine stars and three planets.

00:10:06.580 However, but when you're reading it, you know, remember book of revelation was written by

00:10:12.460 John who, uh, is, is seeing things.

00:10:16.400 And then like, how do I describe what I'm seeing?

00:10:19.160 Right.

00:10:19.640 Okay.

00:10:20.160 Right.

00:10:20.860 Who I don't even probably didn't even know the difference between stars and the other celestial

00:10:24.500 bodies of the time.

00:10:25.220 But anyway, yes.

00:10:26.360 So, so they didn't.

00:10:27.940 So, so, so, so there's that thing that that's, that's one coincidence.

00:10:31.600 So also at that time, we'll just follow through revelation, this, she'll be cloaked in the

00:10:37.540 sun.

00:10:37.960 So the sun will be on her shoulder at that time, basically right where her garments are.

00:10:44.560 So she's cloaked in the sun.

00:10:45.720 So it's a woman who's dressed only on the shoulder. 1.00

00:10:49.080 I just want to make sure I understand.

00:10:50.980 That, what's that means?

00:10:51.920 When that means cloaked by the sun meant there would be a light at her shoulder.

00:10:56.980 That's, that was okay.

00:10:57.720 Okay.

00:10:58.000 I know.

00:10:58.300 I understand.

00:10:58.840 That one is, that one's a little hard.

00:10:59.880 Okay.

00:11:00.060 Go ahead.

00:11:00.320 Go ahead.

00:11:00.640 A little bit of a reach on it.

00:11:01.420 I'm just going to say it.

00:11:02.400 It feels like a little bit of a reach.

00:11:03.760 Okay.

00:11:04.240 Okay.

00:11:04.640 So, so, but.

00:11:06.100 Stu, we are talking about the end of the world in two days.

00:11:09.120 I know.

00:11:10.080 But the positioning is very coincidental.

00:11:13.440 It still is.

00:11:14.320 So, okay.

00:11:14.880 So that's the next thing.

00:11:15.740 Okay.

00:11:16.140 So the moon will be at her feet.

00:11:18.880 So the moon in the sky is directly at Virgo's feet.

00:11:22.400 So we have the sun, we have the crown, we have the moon all at her feet.

00:11:25.860 Now this is where I probably, I was chewing on my pen.

00:11:28.900 I said nothing, I dropped it out of my mouth at this point.

00:11:31.780 She will appear to be with child.

00:11:34.320 Okay.

00:11:35.160 So, uh, Jupiter, right?

00:11:38.620 So Jupiter has been inside Virgo's stomach for guess how many months up until September

00:11:46.120 23rd.

00:11:46.760 Can anyone guess?

00:11:47.680 Nine.

00:11:48.740 Nine months.

00:11:50.680 Nine months.

00:11:51.900 Holy cow. 0.89

00:11:52.680 But it's not gestation period.

00:11:54.480 No, but nine months is not the gestation period.

00:11:56.600 That's a summary for what the gestation period is.

00:11:58.580 Don't poke holes.

00:11:59.240 No more, Stu.

00:12:00.580 You can't.

00:12:01.400 It's actually longer than nine months.

00:12:02.420 When you have a planet named after a guy in the stomach of a constellation of stars and

00:12:10.680 it's going to give birth after nine months.

00:12:13.360 How do you poke holes into that, Stu?

00:12:14.900 I, there's a lot of holes.

00:12:16.760 I feel like we've made several leaps on top of leaps, on top of leaps, on top of jumps,

00:12:22.540 on top of life-saving off the top of a cliff.

00:12:26.520 You keep your eyes closed, pal.

00:12:28.460 You keep your eyes closed.

00:12:30.220 So, September 23rd, which is this Saturday, numerologists and others who watch for signs

00:12:52.140 in the heaven say that this is a very important date because these signs are happening in heaven.

00:12:59.020 Do you have a couple of pieces from the documentary?

00:13:01.840 Yes.

00:13:02.220 So, we have what I just described a whole lot better, which is the whole September 23rd

00:13:06.560 theory that we have.

00:13:07.460 Here it is.

00:13:09.000 On September 23rd of 2017, there is an alignment that is happening in the sun, the moon, and

00:13:15.700 the stars, and the constellations, which looks like something that John wrote about in chapter

00:13:22.140 12 of the book of Revelation.

00:13:24.000 In the first two verses, he's talking about the sun, the moon, the stars, the wandering

00:13:29.540 stars, which we call planets, and a constellation, which is Virgo.

00:13:35.280 John says that he sees a great sign in heaven, that there is a woman, she's clothed in the

00:13:41.160 sun with the moon under her feet, and she has a crown of 12 stars on her head. 0.93

00:13:46.280 But she's also pregnant, but not just pregnant, she's in labor and about to give birth.

00:13:53.600 We know that Virgo would be the woman. 0.58

00:13:56.280 The moon will actually be at her feet.

00:13:58.240 The sun will traverse by her shoulder, clothing her in the sun, and in her head will be 12 stars.

00:14:03.800 Nine of those will be the constellation of Leo.

00:14:05.820 It makes up Leo.

00:14:06.620 They're always there.

00:14:07.280 But the three other ones that are not there are the syzygur, the alignment of planets.

00:14:12.140 Mercury will align.

00:14:13.340 We'll have Venus that's there, and also Mars, making up the 12 stars.

00:14:17.800 And we can see that the 12 constellations around the ecliptic only has one woman in it that

00:14:24.580 the sun, the moon, and the wandering stars can travel through.

00:14:27.580 And that would be Virgo.

00:14:29.960 The cinematography actually is impressive.

00:14:32.560 It is impressive.

00:14:33.300 I will say.

00:14:33.620 And it does, I mean, there could be, if we are talking about the constellations, which

00:14:40.840 John over in Greece at that time would have been seeing the constellations in that way

00:14:51.800 and describing.

00:14:54.060 I mean, that does sound logical.

00:14:56.300 Now, do they, are they, they're making it clear on what they think this means?

00:15:05.060 Well, no, there's been, there have been a few different interpretations.

00:15:08.380 Like, like you talked about before, some people think this is the rapture.

00:15:11.840 Other people think that this is the day that Jesus shows up.

00:15:15.320 Again, other people think that this just begins, you know, the era.

00:15:19.100 I've got news for you.

00:15:20.560 Again, if Jesus is showing up on Saturday, this has been a pretty sweet period.

00:15:27.020 I mean, I was expecting a lot worse than what we're going through right now.

00:15:30.820 You know what I mean?

00:15:31.840 If it's like Antifa, you know, John, John hyped this a little bit, just a little bit.

00:15:38.460 And so we have more from the documentary and also the, the guy who, what is his name here?

00:15:48.120 David Mead.

00:15:49.060 Yeah.

00:15:49.400 David Mead.

00:15:49.960 The guy who says, you know, this is his theory.

00:15:53.140 And he says, the media has it all wrong.

00:15:56.300 And he's going to be joining us in a few minutes.

00:15:57.980 If you want to join Jason Patrill's cult, you can go to, what's the website for that, Jason?

00:16:11.320 Where do people join and give all, give you all their money before September 23rd?

00:16:14.480 Jason's cult.

00:16:15.280 I'm not contributing to that.

00:16:16.000 Saturday.

00:16:17.920 Saturday's it.

00:16:18.580 Give me your money.

00:16:20.880 I love these people who are like, yeah, and I've got a book out and then like you to go out and buy it.

00:16:27.980 Well, what are you making money for?

00:16:31.160 Why don't you just dump that out online if everything's going to be done?

00:16:35.960 It's true.

00:16:37.080 Where do you get this?

00:16:37.740 Where do you get this video?

00:16:38.880 Where did you find the video?

00:16:39.740 What is it called?

00:16:40.500 This, it's called The Sign and it's an AT&T, like, DirecTV original.

00:16:45.580 I thought it was a mistake on the screen when they showed it here on Blaze TV.

00:16:48.560 It credited it to AT&T.

00:16:50.200 I'm like, what the heck is AT&T making this for?

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00:19:00.320 Glenn Beck.

00:19:06.300 Glenn Beck.

00:19:08.000 There's a lot going on in the world.

00:19:10.560 There's hurricanes and earthquakes and wars and rumors of wars.

00:19:17.000 You name it, we got it going on.

00:19:19.120 That has led some people to say, I wonder if these are signs of times.

00:19:24.860 David Mead is a researcher and a writer, and he says September 23rd is an important day.

00:19:34.220 And he's going to be joining us here in just a second.

00:19:36.740 This is, if you've heard of the September 23rd thing, this is his theory.

00:19:40.800 But he says the media is getting it wrong.

00:19:44.260 I don't think he's saying this is the end of the world.

00:19:48.260 You know, that never ends well for people on Monday.

00:19:51.520 Anyway, but I want to talk to him because I want to, I believe we have entered a new season.

00:20:02.100 Now, I don't even know what that means, but I just feel that we've entered a new season, a new time.

00:20:07.580 And things are going to get tough from here.

00:20:09.900 That doesn't mean Jesus is coming or anything like that.

00:20:12.400 And I wouldn't, I wouldn't dare to predict or project that.

00:20:17.520 But he says there are signs in heaven, in the heavens, as John the Revelator said.

00:20:21.980 And we'll get to those and his full theory next.

00:20:25.000 Glenn Beck.

00:20:31.620 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:20:34.860 David Mead studied astronomy at the University of Louisville.

00:20:37.880 Worked in forensic investigations, his bio says last 10 years, he spent with Fortune 1000 companies writing reports for management.

00:20:47.040 He is a specialist in research and investigations, has a dozen books to his credit, including the bestselling Planet X 2017, The Arrival.

00:20:57.880 He is was raised Catholic.

00:21:00.460 He says his book was based on hard science with some Bible prophecy thrown in.

00:21:05.020 He said I was raised Catholic and I believe in the book of Revelation.

00:21:07.880 It was taught in Sunday schools when I was growing up, and it is still taught in Sunday schools around the nation and the world.

00:21:15.720 He says that the media here in America, and you're going to find this hard to believe, has distorted what he has said is coming on Saturday.

00:21:25.780 September 23rd is the date, and we welcome David to the program.

00:21:29.700 Hi, David.

00:21:30.680 Glenn, thank you for a brilliant introduction.

00:21:32.660 Love your show.

00:21:33.300 Good to be here.

00:21:33.840 Thank you.

00:21:34.360 So I have met several kinds of people, people who are claiming that you are saying that the end of the world is on Saturday and that we should all prepare.

00:21:45.640 I have met people who say it is a good shot that, what do you call it, the rapture is happening on Saturday or that Jesus is coming back.

00:21:54.720 I want to know what you're saying, because this is your theory.

00:21:59.700 Right, right.

00:22:00.600 In September, I don't think anything is going to happen.

00:22:02.620 I really don't.

00:22:03.360 But there is an amazing sign, getting back to that Revelation 12, 1, 2 sign, it's a juxtaposition of the constellations Virgo and Leo.

00:22:13.640 It's in Revelation 12, 1 and 2, which is a preview of the entire apocalypse.

00:22:19.060 Very interesting.

00:22:19.860 It's the last great sign, according to the Greek terminology, in the book of Revelation.

00:22:24.900 And I have used Stellarium astronomical software in my background in cryptography to decrypt that.

00:22:33.380 And that sign has never occurred before in the last 6,000 years.

00:22:37.020 It will not occur in the future.

00:22:38.640 It's a once-in-human history event.

00:22:41.340 So it may be signaling what's called the end.

00:22:44.980 I have some friends who believe this, and I'll just relate their theory.

00:22:47.960 It may be signaling what is called the end of the 2,000-year church age.

00:22:53.440 And then God apparently primarily deals more with Israel for about a seven-year period.

00:22:59.160 And a lot happens during that seven years.

00:23:01.900 But that's a date range.

00:23:03.340 That's not, as you know, a specific date.

00:23:06.360 The problem with the book of Revelation is it's written in nonlinear sequence.

00:23:10.760 And you can't really pinpoint a month, a week, a day.

00:23:14.580 You know a lot's going to happen in that seven years.

00:23:16.720 Everything is going to happen.

00:23:19.000 So the seven years that you're talking about, Christians would refer to that as the seven years of tribulation.

00:23:25.940 Those are really bad years.

00:23:29.280 Yeah.

00:23:29.880 It's also called the day of the Lord.

00:23:31.260 It's also called the tribulation, as you mentioned.

00:23:33.580 And there's 21 judgments.

00:23:35.780 There's seven seal judgments.

00:23:37.720 There's seven, you know, the four horsemen.

00:23:39.540 There's seven trumpet judgments.

00:23:42.080 There's seven bowl judgments in the last half.

00:23:44.280 Now, this celestial object known as Planet X, or the Bible calls it Wormwood in Revelation chapter 8,

00:23:52.380 it causes most of the damage of the trumpet judgments.

00:23:56.200 Now, it doesn't destroy the whole earth.

00:23:57.840 It only impacts one-third of the earth.

00:24:00.440 And the book of Revelation actually says it will land in a sea.

00:24:06.360 So it's going to land either in one of the three oceans facing the sun.

00:24:09.880 It's going to land either in the Atlantic, the Pacific, or the Indian Ocean.

00:24:13.100 So, wait, wait, wait.

00:24:15.000 So, first, before we get to Wormwood, let's just seal up here.

00:24:20.760 What does Saturday's sign say to you?

00:24:24.860 What is it that you want people to hear about what's happening in the sky?

00:24:29.800 Well, if we were in Jerusalem at dawn on September 23rd in the morning this month, this year,

00:24:36.080 we would see at least part of the sign in the heavens, in the constellations in the sky.

00:24:42.080 And if we were using solarium, we would see the whole thing.

00:24:45.580 And what it signals to me is I think it's a huge sign.

00:24:49.720 I don't think, because if you believe that John the Revelator who wrote this book of Revelation,

00:24:56.280 in Revelation chapter 4, the first verse, he says he was caught up to the throne room of God.

00:25:01.220 Now, if this is true, this is information from the highest source available.

00:25:06.120 This is not a monk in the 16th century or a Jewish rabbi in the 11th century.

00:25:11.120 This is top-secret compartmentalized information.

00:25:15.340 And this is to herald in, you just said a minute ago, that things are out of sequence.

00:25:23.360 So is this the sign that starts the clock ticking?

00:25:28.180 Exactly.

00:25:28.800 You hit it.

00:25:29.380 That's the best synopsis I can give you.

00:25:31.900 It starts a seven-year clock ticking.

00:25:34.740 And as you notice, we've already had an acceleration.

00:25:37.120 We've had a quarter trillion dollars worth of damage by two hurricanes.

00:25:40.360 We've had these high Richter scale earthquakes in Mexico.

00:25:45.240 And if you actually adjust the Richter scale to what it really was in the early 1900s, that was over an 8.0.

00:25:51.160 It was the same as the San Francisco earthquake.

00:25:54.580 So, because the seven-year period of tribulation is a nightmare.

00:26:02.060 You know, unless it's like a movie that everybody is hyped up and you're like,

00:26:05.300 ah, that wasn't that good.

00:26:06.480 But the seven-year period washes everything in blood.

00:26:14.240 So it must get really bad really fast.

00:26:18.020 Yes.

00:26:18.480 And what I'm concerned is, I'm concerned when Planet X approaches, when this Nibiru system approaches the sun,

00:26:25.900 it's not going to collide with us, but it has a quarter million mile debris field.

00:26:28.800 And in it are a couple of asteroids, one of which is called Wormwood.

00:26:32.700 Now, Wormwood has to be at least three kilometers to destroy one-third of the oceans.

00:26:38.180 But anyway, getting back to that, that is the problem as it approaches.

00:26:43.220 We live in what's called an electric universe.

00:26:46.200 And there's plasma in outer space.

00:26:49.240 It interacts among the various planetary bodies.

00:26:53.700 As this approaches, the magnetosphere of the sun will be affected.

00:26:58.280 It will heat up.

00:26:59.220 It will produce solar flares.

00:27:00.740 It could knock out our electrical grid. 0.51

00:27:02.400 Okay.

00:27:02.780 Hold on just a second.

00:27:04.280 Okay.

00:27:04.540 So the first part that we have to get to, let's just seal this up.

00:27:08.040 First part is, David Mead believes this, the guy whose theory that September 23rd is,

00:27:15.160 nothing's going to happen on September 23rd, this is a gateway that it starts the clock ticking

00:27:22.260 for the seven-year tribulation period, according to David Mead.

00:27:33.200 Now, Planet X is something entirely different,

00:27:41.840 because Planet X is this theory.

00:27:45.660 Is this your theory?

00:27:47.060 Or how do we even know Planet X even exists?

00:27:51.620 Well, it's been researched for almost 100 years.

00:27:55.360 They started looking for it back in the 30s because something was perturbing the orbits

00:27:59.560 of Neptune and Uranus.

00:28:01.380 But NASA discovered it in 1983 with the infrared satellite.

00:28:05.440 And in fact, the four big newspapers, the New York Times and the Post among them,

00:28:09.080 wrote articles about it.

00:28:10.160 And then two weeks later, suddenly, at the end of 83, all public information was closed

00:28:16.740 down.

00:28:17.800 And from that point forward, I've had evidence that the elite and the government have built

00:28:23.680 over 100 deep underground military bases for protection.

00:28:27.000 From that point on, the government started preparing, and the public received a major

00:28:30.880 blackout.

00:28:32.860 Okay, David, we've jumped into a different pool here now.

00:28:35.420 So, there is a planet that the government is covering up?

00:28:43.500 Absolutely.

00:28:45.100 It's a major cover-up by NASA.

00:28:47.100 And it's not uncommon.

00:28:50.520 Because normally, in any government operation, you've got 10 or 20 people at the top that

00:28:55.720 have compartmentalized, above-top-secret clearances.

00:28:59.000 And they know everything.

00:29:00.060 And nobody else, the 99%, they know nothing. 0.93

00:29:03.300 So they have plausible deniability.

00:29:04.880 But the ones at the top are under non-disclosure agreements.

00:29:08.700 And they could be, you know, they could lose everything.

00:29:11.780 And why are they covering Planet X up?

00:29:15.940 My personal opinion, I think they want to keep the cash registers ringing until the last

00:29:20.320 minute.

00:29:20.660 Because there's a lot of very expensive coastal, commercial, and residential real estate around

00:29:25.960 the world.

00:29:26.360 What good is the money if Wormwood is coming and the planet is going to carry with it all

00:29:35.500 kinds of death?

00:29:37.760 Yeah, it's very interesting.

00:29:40.140 Even Pope John Paul II, he made a speech before some bishops in Europe in the 1980s, and he said

00:29:46.740 if the third secret of Fatima is that the world's coastal areas are going to be flooded and

00:29:53.300 destroyed, it would be better that we didn't even release it.

00:29:56.320 So he was speaking in dark speech there.

00:29:58.300 I think he knows.

00:30:02.180 Any hard evidence that this planet that is being hidden?

00:30:07.120 In what this planet is, it has a very weird trajectory, an ellipse that comes and is coming

00:30:17.500 between the Earth and what?

00:30:20.720 The Moon?

00:30:21.380 The Earth and the Moon, the Moon's pretty close, but between the Earth and the Sun, I would

00:30:26.360 say, good point.

00:30:28.140 So I would say it'll probably approach 10 to 14 million miles away.

00:30:32.280 And has it done this before?

00:30:34.700 Yes, I have studied the Niebuhr sky disk, which is an archaeological discovery in Germany

00:30:39.440 some years ago, and I believe it occurred about 3,700 years ago, and there's a chapter

00:30:44.820 in that in my book.

00:30:48.380 It probably caused the Great Flood at that time, what the Bible calls Noah's Flood.

00:30:54.980 And how long before we could see, you know, how long before the jig would be up?

00:31:00.880 I mean, where is Planet X now?

00:31:03.460 I mean, it'd be pretty hard to have a planet sneak up on us.

00:31:08.100 Right.

00:31:09.360 Well, it's not going to sneak up to the South Pole Telescope.

00:31:12.640 You know, it's not going to sneak up to the Vatican's secret observatory on Mount Graham.

00:31:16.800 They're watching it in infrared right now.

00:31:18.740 I have a friend who's seen it through the Hubble.

00:31:22.220 So I have pictures of it by an astronomer in Paris who worked at a multinational observatory.

00:31:27.840 I have pictures of it from a colleague, Marshall Masters, who analyzed a jetliner photo of it

00:31:33.980 above Utah.

00:31:35.120 So people have seen it.

00:31:36.600 In rare circumstances, you can get a picture of it from the Earth, the plane of the Earth.

00:31:41.840 All right, David, I appreciate having you on.

00:31:47.500 And I was going to say we look forward to seeing what the future brings.

00:31:52.680 But, you know, then again, perhaps not.

00:31:55.040 So it's good talking to you.

00:31:57.100 Author of Planet X.

00:32:03.340 You can get David's book, Planet X, 2017 Arrival, online and wherever books are sold.

00:32:09.220 He has a bunch of other books you can read as well, including the coup d'etat against

00:32:13.620 President Donald J. Trump and the Prepper's Guide to Surviving EMP Attacks, Solar Flares

00:32:18.900 and Grid Failures.

00:32:20.880 It's not helping things.

00:32:22.360 Well, I mean, I...

00:32:23.460 It's not helping things.

00:32:24.440 It's interesting.

00:32:25.020 I mean, you know, obviously NASA says Planet X isn't a thing, right?

00:32:30.560 And he has an answer to that in that NASA is kind of engaging in a conspiracy to hide it

00:32:35.280 from people.

00:32:36.660 You can...

00:32:36.960 I have a hard time with that.

00:32:37.900 Yeah, I do too.

00:32:39.220 And then he also mentioned the...

00:32:41.460 Now, like...

00:32:43.220 There's a story on Christianity Today about this.

00:32:48.740 It's written by the executive director of the Billy Graham Center at Wheaton College,

00:32:54.920 Ed Stetzer.

00:32:56.340 And he says...

00:32:58.220 First of all, there's no such thing as a Christian numerologist.

00:33:00.620 Now, again, to David's credit, I don't think he's saying, in his defense, I don't think

00:33:08.540 he's saying he's a Christian numerologist.

00:33:10.900 He's a numerologist and he's a Christian, I think is what he's trying to communicate there.

00:33:14.440 Yeah.

00:33:14.600 But also, in addition to that, it mentions that this planetary alignment has happened four

00:33:21.420 times in the last thousand years.

00:33:23.620 Now, you know, again, I would assume, and I mean, I would assume he would push back against

00:33:29.700 that.

00:33:30.020 But I would say that the...

00:33:34.260 Either, right?

00:33:36.040 Let me just give you two possibilities here.

00:33:37.740 Either...

00:33:38.380 Yeah.

00:33:38.920 ...the entire sort of mainstream Christian situation is engaged in a giant conspiracy with the government

00:33:46.880 to hide Planet X from you, along with NASA.

00:33:49.660 Or maybe David's not right.

00:33:52.900 I'm just throwing that one out there.

00:33:54.100 I know David seemed like a nice guy, so I don't want to...

00:33:56.400 You know, we'll see.

00:33:57.340 I mean, obviously, we'll have a few years here to check it out.

00:33:59.980 I don't have a hard time seeing the, you know, the sun on Earth, clothed with the sun

00:34:06.200 and the, you know, the alignment in the heavens.

00:34:08.960 Okay, I can see that.

00:34:11.160 I don't necessarily say that's absolutely what it means, but it could be.

00:34:16.000 It could be.

00:34:16.780 I'm sensing a little skepticism.

00:34:18.460 Oh, yeah, I know.

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00:35:43.200 I'm going to kill the skepticism, but I'm going to do it tomorrow, because we've got plenty

00:35:46.060 of time.

00:35:46.460 We've got 48 hours or something like that.

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00:35:49.840 So, yeah, tomorrow, you'll kill the skepticism.

00:35:51.640 Quickly, let me go to Tom in Ohio.

00:35:53.620 Hello, Tom.

00:35:54.960 Morning, fellas.

00:35:55.660 Yes, it was approximately 10 months ago.

00:35:58.400 Now, CBS News, which you've got to take with a grain of salt as it is, but CBS News stated

00:36:03.160 that NASA had said there appears to be a planet about 10 times the mass of the Earth out beyond

00:36:09.820 the solar system due to the fact that objects in the Kuiper Belt are not responding properly

00:36:15.120 or as they should in an enclosed solar system.

00:36:19.200 So, they verified that there is a planet out there.

00:36:21.580 Right.

00:36:21.780 So, I don't know if that is the planet X that he's talking about, but I do remember

00:36:26.740 that story, and it was more than CBS News.

00:36:29.940 You know, we keep going back and forth with Pluto, whether it's a planet or a dog, but

00:36:33.200 now there has been apparently verification that there is another one way out of our solar

00:36:40.720 system.

00:36:41.460 Let's go to Joe.

00:36:42.400 Hello, Joe.

00:36:42.940 Quickly, you're on the Glenn Beck Program.

00:36:44.140 Hey, guys.

00:36:45.760 I was just calling to tell you that I agree with David, the author of the book, about people

00:36:52.400 who have taken pictures of it.

00:36:53.920 I have a picture of Planet X that I took.

00:36:56.340 I can send it to you guys, but it's hard to see because Bigfoot kind of takes up most

00:37:01.440 of the picture.

00:37:01.920 It's not helpful.

00:37:07.920 Well, I mean, it would be helpful if you were Bigfoot and you've got a nice picture of yourself.

00:37:13.220 Thank you very much, Joe.

00:37:14.480 That's something that's helpful.

00:37:15.060 Tomorrow, we'll continue this just to do a little bit of sweep up because Saturday is

00:37:20.180 the day.

00:37:21.320 What do you believe?

00:37:22.900 Sign in the heavens, Planet X.

00:37:26.460 A little bit more tomorrow.

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00:38:40.860 There is a new poll that shows nearly half of Americans now support a single-payer health care system.

00:38:57.900 Think of that.

00:38:58.720 The fundamental transformation of America.

00:39:01.240 Nearly half now say a government system, like the VA, is okay.

00:39:08.960 That's 49% of Americans, to be exact.

00:39:13.580 Only 35% say they oppose such a plan.

00:39:20.020 Wow.

00:39:21.820 Now, if you look at this, it should tell us a couple of things.

00:39:25.380 One, it's a warning.

00:39:28.800 Two, it's a lesson for the way forward.

00:39:32.320 So let's first start with a warning.

00:39:33.900 The fact that at first glance, nearly half of Americans say they would support a single-payer system means that conservatives or libertarians, constitutionalists, have not done their job.

00:39:45.960 We haven't done the hard work of educating people, and every time we do, we're speaking a language that they're just not hearing.

00:39:52.760 It's not working, what we're doing, because when this happens, and people aren't seeing the pitfalls of a one-size-fits-all health care system, the American idea is gone.

00:40:08.820 But if you look deeper in the polling, you find a lesson for the way forward.

00:40:14.620 And there is actually a poll from earlier this summer that found a clear majority, 55%, to be exact, supported a single-payer system.

00:40:22.520 But that poll also found that once people were educated about the reality of single-payer, higher taxes, giving up their employer-sponsored plans, and a government-run plan, opposition goes up to 61%.

00:40:36.860 So once they're educated, 61% oppose the single-payer once they really know what it means.

00:40:44.780 That's our lesson.

00:40:46.000 And to not shout it, and to not use hyperbole, but to actually just teach it.

00:40:55.380 Education, education, education.

00:40:58.560 The truth is, Americans don't know what single-payer means.

00:41:02.480 But the truth is, even more, they don't know what fascism, communism, socialism, progressivism, they don't know what populism means.

00:41:10.740 Once they do, they're not real fans.

00:41:18.060 So the lesson we take from this is it is our full-time job to find out different ways of presenting the truth, not our truth, the truth, and let people be educated and decide for themselves.

00:41:40.740 Do you remember during the Tea Party movement at its height where the IRS started playing games with people's information?

00:42:04.980 And imagine if, during the Tea Party days, if you had gone to the 9-12 project and you had just searched, or you had gone to a Tea Party website and you had just searched, and you had maybe posted.

00:42:21.540 And then some people go out and they start to do something violent.

00:42:25.440 Should the government be able to have the names, the IP addresses, and the search history of everyone who went to that website?

00:42:37.420 This is what's being debated right now.

00:42:40.360 But it's being debated not with a 9-12 project or a Tea Party project.

00:42:45.240 It's something that would make a lot of people on the right happy, I guess.

00:42:50.620 Disrupt J-20.

00:42:51.880 That was the group that disrupted the inauguration of Donald Trump.

00:42:58.540 Now the government has arrested 200 people under felony rioting.

00:43:04.100 But the government wants the IP addresses, the emails, and the history of anyone who engaged with these people through the website Disrupt J-20.

00:43:15.540 Should they have that right?

00:43:17.900 And how would you feel if the situation were reversed?

00:43:21.500 We've talked a lot about these lines and how they're drawn with the government and how it relates to your data.

00:43:26.640 Wanted to get someone who really knows these things, the ins and outs of it.

00:43:30.080 Saul Hansel is a former technology reporter at the New York Times.

00:43:33.700 He's now the managing director at Media Paradox Labs.

00:43:36.800 So, Saul, you wrote about this in 2008 about your op-ed was,

00:43:44.040 One subpoena is all it takes to reveal your online life.

00:43:48.760 We're entering a new world here, are we not?

00:43:52.700 The world, even in the nine years since I wrote that,

00:43:58.340 The amount of information about you that is online somewhere, sent up by your cell phone about your location,

00:44:07.800 all the questions you ask Siri, all sorts of other things, is exponentially higher.

00:44:13.300 So, what you said in the introduction I think is critical here.

00:44:16.800 We've got to be very thoughtful in drawing some lines so that prosecutors can do the right things,

00:44:24.000 but not be searching everything about everybody, which is available to them now.

00:44:30.720 So, Saul, here's the problem that I think we have in society right now.

00:44:34.660 We are divided into two camps, and I think these are bogus camps, both of them.

00:44:39.120 I think they both are, in many ways, opting for the same thing, because when it's their side that has the power, they're all for it.

00:44:46.660 When they're on the receiving end, they're all against it.

00:44:49.900 We have a job to do to try to convince people on both sides,

00:44:54.040 you don't want to give the power like this to the government, ever.

00:45:00.040 How do we do that?

00:45:01.140 You know, I think that the way you introduced this, where you said to people who might have identified with one group and against the other,

00:45:12.460 that things switch, right?

00:45:14.640 We know that there is a history of governments snooping on people where they shouldn't,

00:45:22.380 the FBI, you know, tracking the extramarital affairs of Martin Luther King,

00:45:27.360 all kinds of things where governments do what they shouldn't do.

00:45:31.540 That seems bad, but there are really horrible criminals to blow things up and kill people, and that's bad.

00:45:37.320 And the art here, right, the Fourth Amendment says the right of people to be secure against unreasonable searches and seizures

00:45:44.260 shall not be violated without probable cause.

00:45:48.300 So there's a line here that has become very, very difficult in a world of digital information.

00:45:57.160 We were, you know, the Fourth Amendment was written at a time when people were using quill pins.

00:46:03.520 And so it's easy for people to say, well, no, I wrote that and that's my paper.

00:46:06.980 What are you doing?

00:46:07.600 You can't go through my desk.

00:46:08.800 You just can't come in here.

00:46:10.300 However, everything we have, literally everything we have and done and thought and searched and questioned,

00:46:17.340 everything is now up in a cloud and it is stored forever.

00:46:23.440 And there is some disconnect with people on the Fourth Amendment if it's on the cloud.

00:46:28.680 And people will make the excuse, well, I'm not looking for something.

00:46:32.220 I'm not doing anything wrong.

00:46:33.860 I don't have a problem if they look at everything.

00:46:36.520 You know, the law has made a distinction, right, between things that are public, things that are private and personal, you know, in your house

00:46:50.960 and things that are sort of intermediate, like a business record, right?

00:46:55.500 So a cop can go up to a dry cleaner and say, you know, with a certain amount of subpoena power, did so-and-so dry clean a suit at this date?

00:47:09.760 A much higher standard applies to going into your house and looking in the pockets of your suit, right?

00:47:17.420 The business record was seen as something that's not quite public but not a secret.

00:47:23.200 The problem is, as you say, we're now putting our secrets, things you might not even keep in your desk drawer,

00:47:30.060 you might keep in your Gmail account or in your, you know, online files or are in the photographs that you don't even know have been backed up to somebody's server.

00:47:39.520 And so at a minimum, I think the policy issue is, should we treat the cloud extensions of our life with the same protections that we treat things in our homes, in our personal privacy?

00:47:57.920 That's a question that I don't think law enforcement wants to ask because they like it this way.

00:48:02.980 They get more stuff than ever.

00:48:04.760 But I think it's a good discussion to have.

00:48:07.560 And it's a tough thing, Saul, because if there is an attack, if there is some crime, people are going to want it solved.

00:48:15.120 They're going to want the law enforcement to have these tools at their disposal. 0.82

00:48:19.480 And they're always going, it's always going to be more powerful to say, this person could have been saved, their life could have been saved.

00:48:27.160 Yep.

00:48:27.460 If we had these powers.

00:48:29.120 And I don't know that, you know, the story of, well, the government searched too much through my Gmail is going to convince people the other way.

00:48:36.940 How do you get people kind of across that line and to understand that it's really a bigger issue than that?

00:48:42.380 Because this is everything you've ever thought.

00:48:44.300 They can prove in lawsuits, things that you made in jokes.

00:48:47.660 They can tie to whatever they're accusing you of now.

00:48:51.200 There's a real big consequence of this.

00:48:54.240 Right.

00:48:54.440 I mean, you know, Glenn said earlier, you know, people say, my life is an open book.

00:48:59.180 What does it matter?

00:49:00.560 And, you know, that's true.

00:49:02.320 You know, most people are really boring most of the time.

00:49:05.080 Yes.

00:49:05.300 But every now and then, right, some set of things happens that you either have a real secret, maybe even not, you know.

00:49:13.960 Or, you know, may I suggest this?

00:49:16.020 Yeah.

00:49:16.320 Saul, I mean, I know I'm different, but I don't think, you know, there's probably just more frequency of this.

00:49:22.100 Because of what I do, probably because of what you do, I'm searching for all kinds of crazy stuff.

00:49:27.680 Sure.

00:49:28.040 And I'm looking up, you know, mass murder and everything else.

00:49:32.040 And you could, if you had access to all of my life, you could assemble things and say, well, look at the picture we have here, Mr. Beck.

00:49:42.940 And I would be then in the situation where I would have to explain, no, that's not what it is.

00:49:48.360 That's not what, no.

00:49:49.740 And so you don't want people to be able to come in and assemble parts of your life, even if you don't have something to hide, which we all do.

00:49:58.700 Even if you don't have something to hide, when somebody has all of your information, they can assemble it in very nefarious ways, should they choose.

00:50:07.840 Yes, so they can find, you know, inadvertent things or, you know, misleading things.

00:50:15.440 And we also have a general, you know, standard here that cops need to know what they're looking for.

00:50:23.240 And they can't use a search for one thing as a way to just fish around to see, you know, there must be something this guy did wrong.

00:50:31.720 And, right, so if, you know, and what you described is absolutely true, what they're going to do in this case, right, because there's a, is, there's supposedly a compromise the courts are imposing, but I think it has the risk that you're pointing out,

00:50:47.660 which is the, the government is going to go search through a bunch of emails among people who are involved in this, you know, disrupt website for certain terms, bombs or violence or riot or whatever they want.

00:51:00.800 And then they get to read those emails.

00:51:03.340 And guess what?

00:51:04.140 Those are emails by people who they didn't suspect and may not.

00:51:07.500 In fact, they may have used the word riot in a completely different context.

00:51:11.620 And suddenly the emails are read and somebody might notice something else and it can be used by, you know, the government to harass dissenters or do all kinds of bad things.

00:51:23.800 So I want to go, you know, what Sue said.

00:51:26.140 Yes.

00:51:26.840 If I was searching every email that was sent by anybody in the world in the two weeks before 9-11 and maybe I could figure out who did something that, you know, or, and I searched for keywords.

00:51:40.060 You know, you might have prevented something really bad, but is that a price you're willing to pay to let the government go on fishing?

00:51:50.220 No, no, it's not for me.

00:51:52.840 I was, I had a conversation with Eric Schmidt from Google and he said, and he's, he said this publicly a few times that I don't remember the year, but I think it was like 2025 or something like that.

00:52:06.340 He said, people's lives will be so open and so destroyed by what they have put out online, just haphazardly or not even thinking that they'll actually have to change their name by the time they're, you know, 25 years old.

00:52:22.040 Um, I don't think people understand the world is changing and how dramatically things are going to change.

00:52:30.940 I think, you know, I, I have teenage daughters and basically my advice to them is be careful about secrets.

00:52:39.600 You can have some, but you shouldn't have very many.

00:52:42.960 You should, you know, think about them carefully and preserve them and you should make them only analog, right?

00:52:49.420 Once you make it digital, it's not a secret.

00:52:52.780 And that's a change for all of us because everything is digital.

00:52:57.880 And how do you, that's what a world this is, man.

00:53:01.080 This is going to be tough, especially when you're in that age, you're, you know, you're 15, 16 years old.

00:53:05.540 Like you're not thinking that way.

00:53:06.960 You're not thinking generationally, right?

00:53:09.080 You're just thinking about, you know, today, stop being paranoid and all of that.

00:53:12.820 Saul, when you look at the world and you see that we have on both sides, we have, uh, we have nationalists and populists and we have, uh, anarchists.

00:53:25.700 And as the world goes into trouble, usually people become desperate and they look for a strong man.

00:53:32.640 Are you, are you optimistic that we, we make this transition, uh, with our, with our, our souls and ourselves intact?

00:53:43.080 Nice little question you're asking.

00:53:45.100 I know.

00:53:45.660 Um, I want to be, I, I think that, you know, we're, we're thinking of the fourth amendment and you see the fourth amendment becomes a reaction against an overreach, right?

00:53:57.520 So we may well have to get to a point when we realize what are the consequences of the government being able to do everything that it can do private companies, right?

00:54:10.760 There was a, um, story about how Uber's internal systems were so lax that anybody in the company could go pull up where anybody was, uh, you know, any Uber user was where their cab was at any given point.

00:54:23.960 And just follow people around.

00:54:25.620 So as, as you know, what we're going to need to have is to say, all right, this digital information is so pervasive that we're going to need to come up with some very clear, strong rules that say, this is possible, but it's not okay.

00:54:44.440 And we're going to need to say that as a society, instead of nibbling away at the edges and saying this analogy for the rule we made about postal envelopes still applies to your Gmail.

00:54:57.880 And I don't know what it's going to take, you know, the, the system, you know, does come up with some compromises here and there, but I don't think it's enough to take stock of the completely new world we're in.

00:55:15.920 Saul, thank you very much.

00:55:16.840 And scary stuff.

00:55:23.280 Saul Hansel.

00:55:24.280 Uh, he is a former reporter for the New York times and technology and now runs the media paradox labs in New York city.

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00:57:06.240 Glenn Beck.

00:57:10.380 Glenn Beck.

00:57:16.360 You know, today we've been talking a little bit about freedom of speech, um, because there are people, uh,

00:57:22.200 that just don't believe that, uh, speech should be protected.

00:57:25.380 I think it's, what was it?

00:57:26.540 41, 49% of millennials now are saying, no, hate speech doesn't fit into the first amendment.

00:57:32.920 And it's really important that you, that we really teach to each other that our speech is protected.

00:57:40.060 And the one that, that is, has to be protected.

00:57:42.620 And we have to stand up for most of the stuff that we disagree with.

00:57:45.360 Otherwise we're in trouble when power changes.

00:57:47.160 Um, the other, but there is one speech that I don't know is protected.

00:57:52.680 And we saw it yesterday on CNN.

00:57:56.280 Um, this is, there was, it was a riveting scene from CNN.

00:58:00.060 It's from, uh, uh, Miguel Marquez, who was down in Mexico city among the rubble.

00:58:05.340 And they are searching for survival, uh, survivors.

00:58:09.340 And I want you to, I want you to listen to this because they're searching with the dogs and they're listening to be able to hear anybody.

00:58:16.620 Listen, the pace here at the school has really quickened in the last couple of hours.

00:58:21.300 Jake, I'm going to show you some of what's happening here right now.

00:58:26.080 Now, Jake, what you're looking at are people holding their hands up.

00:58:30.120 They have asked that the crowd go silent again.

00:58:32.880 I can give you a little sense of just how quiet it gets here.

00:58:35.580 Yeah.

00:58:37.240 It is eerie to think that this is the sign of hope in Mexico today.

00:58:42.020 That would be you to shut up.

00:58:43.500 Shut up. 0.95

00:58:44.980 Shut up. 0.95

00:58:45.940 I mean, he's the, the golf announcers are quieter than that.

00:58:51.080 They're there.

00:58:52.140 Okay.

00:58:52.400 What they're doing now is they're telling everybody to be quiet so we can hear if they're survivors.

00:58:56.180 Shut up, man.

00:58:58.680 Glenn Beck.

00:59:03.800 This is the Glenn Beck program.

00:59:05.540 So last night I, um, I, uh, I think I saw this in the daily wire and I read the daily wire every day and, um, and they had a story about Lawrence O'Donnell and it was, you've got to click on this.

00:59:26.140 Well, Larry O'Donnell goes crazy.

00:59:28.140 He loses his mind.

00:59:29.480 He's, he's gone insane.

00:59:31.280 He's talking about hammers and hearing voices in his head.

00:59:34.500 Make sure you turn the volume down.

00:59:36.780 Okay.

00:59:37.020 That's what it was.

00:59:37.800 Well, I mean, and that's a single memo.

00:59:40.020 That's how everybody reported it.

00:59:41.760 It wasn't, it wasn't, in fact, theirs was probably the most sane.

00:59:45.260 Um, and I, cause I, cause I went from there to, to what is it?

00:59:49.780 Uh, uh, TMZ.

00:59:51.900 Oh my gosh.

00:59:52.680 The way TMZ was.

00:59:54.340 And aliens will land halfway through.

00:59:58.260 So I'm clicking on this.

00:59:59.880 I'm like, what the heck did Larry O'Donnell say?

01:00:02.580 Now I have, I have deleted this, but I want you to hear this is, he's in the middle of an interview on MSNBC and he's live.

01:00:10.560 So it's a network at 30 rock.

01:00:15.000 And I want you to hear the hammering that you can hear in his studio as he's on the air.

01:00:23.080 So he's finishing up, uh, an on-air interview and then the camera goes off and he does lose it.

01:00:29.180 But I have to tell you, I'm no fan of Lawrence O'Donnell at all, but I think I might've lost it a little bit more than this with the hammering.

01:00:37.840 Okay.

01:00:38.360 Now listen, stop the hammering.

01:00:41.160 Stop the hammering out there.

01:00:42.760 Who's got a hammer?

01:00:43.840 Where is it?

01:00:45.260 Where's the hammer?

01:00:46.760 Is it on the, go up on the other floor.

01:00:49.040 Somebody go up there and stop the hammering.

01:00:52.740 Stop the hammering.

01:00:54.400 I'll go down to the floor myself and stop it.

01:00:58.440 Keep the commercial break going.

01:01:01.780 Call Phil Griffin.

01:01:03.160 I don't care who you have to call.

01:01:04.740 Stop the hammering.

01:01:07.340 Empty out the control room and find out where this is going on.

01:01:10.520 It's either there or there or out there somewhere.

01:01:13.480 The woman talking in my ear was talking about the Labor Day special repeatedly every time we went to a sot.

01:01:22.340 What do you mean in the conversation?

01:01:26.800 Not in the Bush sot. 0.52

01:01:29.920 No.

01:01:30.180 The f*** is out of control.

01:01:32.720 All right.

01:01:33.720 So now here's what's happening.

01:01:36.380 In his earpiece, he's hearing, there's a Labor Day sale going on.

01:01:39.940 Every time he goes to a sot is sound on tape.

01:01:44.420 So every time they throw to something that is like, you know, George Bush saying something, he's hearing, not George Bush, he's hearing, and there's a Labor Day sale going on.

01:01:53.700 That is discombobulated.

01:01:55.160 Imagine having a conversation and trying to just like act like nothing's going on with some woman talking about a Labor Day sale in your ear.

01:02:02.760 Very difficult.

01:02:03.240 Very difficult.

01:02:03.900 And then on top of it, and Sarah, I wish they wouldn't have cut the hammering out.

01:02:07.220 If you can find the place at the very beginning, he doesn't swear at the very beginning.

01:02:10.700 So if you can just play it, he's on air, and I'm telling you, it's that loud.

01:02:18.800 Yeah, that's completely inexcusable.

01:02:20.720 I mean, you can't expect it to be.

01:02:23.880 He doesn't lose his cool.

01:02:25.000 He's like, hey, by the way, where's the, anybody notice that?

01:02:29.240 You know, you would be a little, I'm trying to do a professional program here.

01:02:33.440 I do find this to be interesting coming from the person who would continually lead tours through the studio while Pat and Stu was going on.

01:02:39.800 But yes, I agree with your analysis.

01:02:41.460 As I said, he's trying to do a professional program.

01:02:48.900 Glenn, back.

01:02:51.340 All right.

01:02:52.000 We, we, let me, let me switch gears here.

01:02:56.540 I want to talk to you a little bit about something that we were trying to do in, in, on theblaze.com.

01:03:05.660 Sorry, I'm having hammering happening in my headphones right now.

01:03:08.440 Thank you.

01:03:09.800 Stop the hammering.

01:03:13.520 Stop the hammering.

01:03:15.460 Okay.

01:03:17.200 Last night, if you haven't watched the Blaze TV for a while, by the way, I'm just going to announce it.

01:03:24.840 Uh-oh.

01:03:25.540 Yeah.

01:03:25.920 No, this does not go well when you do things like this.

01:03:28.040 When you say it.

01:03:28.660 It's a really cool, it's a, it's, it's an Apple thing.

01:03:31.540 It's, I won't announce it.

01:03:33.360 I won't announce it until I get somebody upstairs saying, yeah, no, we can, we can announce it.

01:03:38.520 I don't even know who the people are upstairs.

01:03:40.220 I am the upstairs now.

01:03:42.620 How, how are they upstairs?

01:03:44.060 I am going to announce it.

01:03:45.580 Uh, all right.

01:03:48.140 I'm not going to.

01:03:48.760 Stu, you are.

01:03:48.980 I just don't even know what it is.

01:03:50.140 It's, it's, it's usually you blurt something out that is not ready.

01:03:53.180 So anyway, if you've, no, I think I have a, anyway, um, stop the hammering.

01:03:58.760 Damn it.

01:03:59.340 Stop the hammering.

01:04:00.200 So, uh, the, the blaze has been going through some, uh, uh, some changes and I know that

01:04:08.900 there's a story.

01:04:09.520 Glenn Beck is, you know, he's losing his shirt.

01:04:11.580 He's going out of business.

01:04:12.540 Yeah, I might be.

01:04:13.460 I very well might be.

01:04:14.640 In fact, all of us might be.

01:04:17.480 Um, and this is the one thing that I, I can't seem to get people to report on or listen to.

01:04:22.700 It's really strange because I'll have off air conversations with really smart people in media.

01:04:28.880 Uh, and they know they absolutely know.

01:04:33.140 Um, but the average Joe doesn't.

01:04:35.500 And the reason why I bring this up is because this is going to happen in your life.

01:04:38.660 If you're a truck driver, this is going to be happening in the next five years.

01:04:41.800 Be prepared.

01:04:43.900 Your industry is going to be turned upside down and inside out.

01:04:48.240 I don't know what jobs are going to be around.

01:04:52.000 And unless you're going to be in a union that says, no, we're going to save all jobs.

01:04:57.740 Yeah.

01:04:58.180 And that's worked.

01:04:58.680 That works out really well when they say that too.

01:05:00.400 Well, when I went to, I was in WNBC in 1984, I think, and I had never seen anything like it.

01:05:08.080 I was a disc jockey and, uh, I would go and I would take the record out of the sleeve and I would put it on the turntable and I would cue the song up.

01:05:17.420 And then I would push the button for it to start.

01:05:20.340 And then I would turn on my microphone and I would say something went to WNBC.

01:05:26.060 No, because in the 1950s, they had all of these people that were, you know, live musicians on radio.

01:05:33.740 And when radio said, we're just going to play music, all those live musicians got together in their unions and said, no, you're not.

01:05:43.440 And they boycotted the stations and picketed and it was horrible.

01:05:47.440 So they said, okay, all right, what we're going to do is because music is with musicians, the musicians union can take the record, take it out of the sleeve and then hand it to the engineer.

01:06:02.960 And the engineer will put it on the turntable, lift up the needle, cue it and push the button.

01:06:10.800 The disc jockey can't do anything but turn on his own microphone and point for the, the, the union member to start the record.

01:06:22.980 And then when the record is over, the musicians union, after the technical union takes the needle off the record, he can lift it up off the turntable, put it back.

01:06:32.340 It took three or four people to do a disc jockey's job.

01:06:35.220 It was crazy.

01:06:36.600 And that was all because they didn't want to lose the jobs in the 1950s.

01:06:41.220 That's the kind of world that we're going to try to enter into.

01:06:44.220 And everybody's going to be screaming.

01:06:45.860 Somebody's got to protect my job.

01:06:47.240 I'm telling you, they're gone.

01:06:48.600 They're gone.

01:06:49.720 We have to rethink everything.

01:06:53.580 And it could provide a really exciting dynamic opportunity.

01:06:57.940 Last night I was watching the Glenn Beck program at five o'clock and Stu is our new executive producer on the TV show.

01:07:06.700 And this is the first thing that we've done as we're retooling a new blackboard show that I think you're really going to like.

01:07:12.880 It'll start in October.

01:07:13.720 And this is kind of a behind the scenes.

01:07:17.540 And in the episode last night, I talked about the future of the media and in particular you and how we're trying to serve you.

01:07:29.300 I would urge anyone who is in the media, anyone who is is thinking about doing anything in the media to watch last night's episode.

01:07:42.800 If you have ever thought about subscribing to the blaze or you were once a subscriber, I want you to see last night's episode.

01:07:52.520 You can see all this week what we've been doing behind the scenes this summer and it'll show you the direction we're going and what we're trying to do.

01:08:01.180 And we really need your help because it's radically different and we're not going to get it right for for several months.

01:08:09.580 But we've just started this journey and I thought it was really important to share with you because it's going to happen in your business as well.

01:08:18.820 Yeah, I mean, the best way to handle all this stuff is to just be upfront and transparent about it, right?

01:08:24.900 I mean, when you're going through it, I think instead of trying to act as if you have everything solved and you know everything about everything,

01:08:31.280 if you're just kind of honest about where you want to go and the things you're going to try and then when they suck, you move on to something else.

01:08:40.300 You admit that, hey, that one didn't work.

01:08:42.060 We're going to try something else.

01:08:43.400 I think that's smart, you know.

01:08:45.620 If you're not changing, listen to me.

01:08:47.980 If you're a business person now, I don't care what business you're in the sock drawer business.

01:08:52.640 If if you're not disrupting yourself right now, if you're not changing, you're going to be playing by somebody else's rules.

01:09:00.460 And this happened in the Great Depression.

01:09:02.920 You know, the people who made the the Auburn, one of the one of the greatest cars ever.

01:09:08.180 They were boxed out because the big three, they had gotten in with the right people, the progressive people.

01:09:14.540 And they made all the rules and they put great tire industry, great tire companies out of business.

01:09:22.200 They put great car companies out of business.

01:09:25.600 The same thing is happening.

01:09:27.020 It's being redesigned.

01:09:28.540 This time you don't have to go to the government.

01:09:30.380 This time you just have to think out of the box.

01:09:32.360 And what is the best way to remove all friction from my customer?

01:09:39.280 How can I serve them?

01:09:41.220 This is truly the ultimate time for Adam Smith's wealth of nation and moral sentiments.

01:09:48.040 Just try to serve the people who come into your store.

01:09:53.520 What what will make their life easier?

01:09:57.000 Give that to them.

01:09:58.820 And I think you survive.

01:10:00.300 By the way, you can subscribe to The Blaze at theblaze.com slash TV.

01:10:09.580 And I can tell you, as executive producer of this particular program, I can promise you this.

01:10:13.860 Every single night, we are going to hire someone from the Carpenters Union to hammer somewhere in the studio to make Glenn look insane until he loses his mind on the air.

01:10:22.080 Because that is what people want to watch.

01:10:24.040 And eventually, we're going to get it to happen.

01:10:27.900 Make me look that way.

01:10:28.960 I think I'm doing that on my own.

01:10:30.100 And the good thing, it's on the Internet if you subscribe there.

01:10:32.180 So we don't have to bleep any of his swears if he starts letting F-bombs go. 1.00

01:10:35.800 So it's going to be great.

01:10:39.000 Our financial markets are about to enter uncharted territory.

01:10:42.780 The Federal Reserve announced, and we are going to do a segment with Danielle DiMartino Booth.

01:10:49.640 She used to work for the Dallas Fed. 0.98

01:10:52.080 She's coming up.

01:10:52.820 We're going to spend five minutes with her at the top of the hour.

01:10:55.440 This is really, really important.

01:10:58.620 The Federal Reserve has announced yesterday that next month it's going to start shrinking its portfolio of bonds that it acquired after the 2008 crash.

01:11:09.380 What that means is they bought up all this junk.

01:11:12.400 It's $4.5 trillion of assets.

01:11:18.660 All these bonds.

01:11:20.860 What happens to the bond market?

01:11:23.220 And they're going to start offloading all of these bonds.

01:11:26.640 There is going to be a glut of these bonds.

01:11:29.480 And they say, well, we're going to do it very, very carefully.

01:11:31.700 Well, nobody's ever done this before.

01:11:33.240 Our financial markets are about to enter uncharted territory.

01:11:37.600 I just I don't know, but I have a feeling that we have crossed a threshold and and things are not going to get more stable from here.

01:11:47.300 I would like you to read the free report from President Reagan's budget director, David Stockman, on the five threats to the economy.

01:11:54.340 I want you to listen to Daniel DiMartino Booth coming up in about 20 minutes from now.

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01:12:11.780 Glenn Beck.

01:12:22.760 Glenn Beck.

01:12:24.500 That's interesting.

01:12:25.880 Jonathan Dunn comes over and he is an Irishman who who called this program from Ireland.

01:12:32.000 I don't even know.

01:12:32.560 Five years ago, three years ago.

01:12:34.160 I think first before five years ago.

01:12:36.020 And and he was listening to us and and he just loves America.

01:12:41.780 And he comes over and now he's giving speeches.

01:12:44.780 He's giving.

01:12:45.300 Where are you giving speeches just this next few days?

01:12:47.680 So I'm in Fort Worth tonight.

01:12:48.860 Then I travel up to Tulsa to a 912 project.

01:12:51.540 Tulsa tomorrow morning, 7 a.m.

01:12:52.800 Then travel into Oklahoma for a 12 noon speech.

01:12:55.560 Another 912 group.

01:12:56.540 And then I'm giving a speech last one on for a Constitution Day event in San Angelo on Saturday.

01:13:01.500 That's great.

01:13:02.780 So he has he has a really great perspective on America and who we are and what we have forgotten.

01:13:08.000 And we were talking yesterday.

01:13:11.100 I read a book called How the Irish Saved Western Civilization.

01:13:16.860 I read it over the summer.

01:13:18.560 And it's basically how all of the libraries, all of the books, all the records were being destroyed all over after the fall of the Roman Empire.

01:13:28.300 And, you know, Ireland was up.

01:13:30.600 Nobody cares about the Irish. 1.00

01:13:32.200 And so they took all these records and all the books and they just kept them and stored them.

01:13:36.740 And that's why we know a lot of ancient history is because of the Irish.

01:13:41.300 But it tells a story in there about St. Patrick.

01:13:44.640 OK.

01:13:44.980 What do they teach in Ireland about St. Patrick?

01:13:48.980 To try to get drunk.

01:13:50.220 Right.

01:13:50.760 OK.

01:13:50.960 They teach that in America.

01:13:52.220 He banished the snakes.

01:13:54.120 Right.

01:13:54.520 What you find very interesting.

01:13:55.800 So I know very little about St. Patrick, but I know that the headlines did the history of the headlines.

01:14:00.700 What's funny, very interesting in that we're going to a secular society and more and more and more than we yet.

01:14:07.000 We love St. Patrick and we're exporting St. Patrick around the world.

01:14:10.640 St. Patrick is generally the person who's mainly credited for bringing Christianity to Ireland.

01:14:14.920 That's actually the truth.

01:14:16.360 So, you know, here's here's the amazing thing about St. Patrick.

01:14:19.200 If this book is accurate.

01:14:21.720 But you should look into it because it's phenomenal.

01:14:24.280 So he is living down, I don't know, some English place and and he's actually sold into slavery.

01:14:33.260 He's up in a in a, you know, as a as a shepherd and they come and Ireland was really bad with slavery, really bad.

01:14:42.400 And he was taken, taken on a slave ship and dumped over into Ireland.

01:14:47.000 And he was a guy who didn't really have any, you know, God didn't follow anything.

01:14:53.000 And he's he's thrown into this place where he's a shepherd and no one can talk to slaves.

01:14:59.080 And he is alone with the sheep and he prays all day long and he's meditating and he's trying to remember the things that he heard about Christianity and everything else.

01:15:12.340 And he has this deep spiritual awakening with God and he's praying that he can be released.

01:15:21.120 So in the middle of the night, he says, I think, an angel or he heard a voice and it said, get up, get out right now.

01:15:27.160 So he leaves, he he escapes, he goes back home and then he hears another voice saying, go back and don't don't rid it of snakes, go back and free the slaves.

01:15:39.540 He was an abolitionist.

01:15:41.800 He was the guy who stopped slavery in Ireland.

01:15:45.740 How do we not know that story?

01:15:48.820 Because it's all wrapped around in Christianity.

01:15:50.920 It's a narrative to teach.

01:15:52.540 I mean, it's it's it's truly crazy.

01:15:57.160 Glenn Beck.

01:16:19.000 Love.

01:16:20.640 Courage.

01:16:22.080 Truth.

01:16:23.300 Glenn Beck.

01:16:24.060 How do you tell the good guys from the bad guys?

01:16:27.820 Even the very elect are going to be deceived.

01:16:31.400 Look at the Middle East right now and the war in ISIS.

01:16:33.920 ISIS is obviously an easy answer. 1.00

01:16:38.020 Definitely bad guys.

01:16:38.960 Right.

01:16:39.200 But after that, it gets a little harder, doesn't it?

01:16:41.680 Turkey claims to be our ally, but they're letting terrorists slip into Syria since this entire thing started.

01:16:48.980 Defeating ISIS isn't even their main objective.

01:16:51.100 Killing Kurds. 1.00

01:16:52.200 Now, that is an objective that they are with.

01:16:57.100 Iran is a pretty easy one as well, right? 1.00

01:17:00.480 You look at Iran. 0.96

01:17:01.940 We consider we don't consider them allies.

01:17:05.460 We've been flying air support for their proxy forces since this war began.

01:17:11.440 But the very same forces that were attacking our soldiers and Marines just a few years ago, but we're protecting them.

01:17:19.980 How about Iraq?

01:17:21.700 Most of the commanders on ISIS came from Saddam's army.

01:17:26.820 When ISIS came back, the Iraqi army basically handed them Mosul and half the country, along with all the weapons.

01:17:34.340 In the entire region, only the Iraqi Kurds held their ground and fought.

01:17:41.620 And they fought for Muslims and Christians and Yazidis and atheists.

01:17:46.720 You might remember the Kurds from the primary debates during the election.

01:17:52.120 Supporting the Kurds became a unanimous catchphrase.

01:17:55.600 We support the Kurds.

01:17:57.420 Out of all of the countries that I've just mentioned, the Kurds, they're the only good guys. 1.00

01:18:04.160 It couldn't be more obvious.

01:18:08.120 But for some reason, the State Department is having a hard time with this.

01:18:13.160 Yesterday, they announced that they are opposing the Iraqi Kurd independence referendum, which is happening on Monday and could put the entire Middle East even in more chaos.

01:18:25.600 But it also does something else.

01:18:27.420 It puts us in alignment with the three countries that I just mentioned that are not our allies or our friends, Turkey, Iran and Iraq, three countries that at very best do not share our values. 0.88

01:18:43.700 We have so wronged the Kurds for so long.

01:18:47.260 And it's I mean, it shouldn't come as a surprise to you.

01:18:49.680 But one of the only countries to step forward and support Kurdish independence is Israel.

01:19:00.360 Why?

01:19:02.700 Because they know exactly what it's like to stand all by yourself.

01:19:07.120 They know what it's like to be a minority in this area and have the entire region want to see you fail and to see all of you wiped off the face of the earth.

01:19:17.200 Why is it so hard for the United States to recognize and support those who actually deserve our support?

01:19:27.100 This is the reason why our foreign policy is so hard to figure out.

01:19:30.560 This is the reason why people hate us over in the middle.

01:19:33.140 Yes, there's a reason.

01:19:35.780 Because we help those who don't share our values.

01:19:43.340 And then we don't stand up for those who do share our values.

01:19:47.200 The only way we're going to ever start to win back some of the respect to win back our honor and integrity is to have some honor and integrity.

01:20:00.820 It's wrong that we don't support the Kurdish independence in Iraq.

01:20:05.320 It is wrong and we are on the wrong side.

01:20:09.140 It's Thursday, September 21st.

01:20:25.360 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

01:20:26.880 So yesterday, the Federal Reserve moved to dismantle a pillar of crisis-era support for the world's biggest economy and stuck with its forecast to raise interest rates again.

01:20:38.720 Hurricane Harvey, Irma, and Maria have devastated many communities, inflicting severe hardship, said the Federal Open Market Committee.

01:20:46.500 But the storm-related disruptions and rebuilding will affect economic activity in the near term.

01:20:54.740 But past experience suggests that the storms are unlikely to materially alter the course of the national economy over the medium term.

01:21:01.280 And that is why we are going to shrink our $4.5 trillion balance sheet.

01:21:07.440 But most people don't even know what I'm even talking about.

01:21:12.160 But this is a really big deal.

01:21:14.440 And I really thought with the storms, and especially with what's happening in Puerto Rico, we might want to check in and see what the Fed is doing.

01:21:23.780 Yeah, if that made your head hurt like it did mine, we needed someone who actually really understands this stuff.

01:21:28.680 Danielle DiMartino Booth is the author of FedUp, an insider's take on why the Federal Reserve is bad for America.

01:21:33.740 And she joins us now.

01:21:34.740 So, Danielle, tell me what this means and what this is going to do.

01:21:41.780 Well, look, the Federal Reserve, in my personal opinion, didn't have any business blowing up their balance sheet and buying securities to the tune of $4.5 trillion in the first place.

01:21:54.200 So I'll be happy to see natural price discovery go back into the hands of people who should determine the prices.

01:22:01.320 That's one of the tenets of capitalism.

01:22:04.620 But they've got the hurricanes all wrong.

01:22:06.740 All wrong.

01:22:07.360 Okay, so before we go to the hurricanes, I am with you that they shouldn't have bought it up, but they bought $4.5 trillion in bonds.

01:22:14.400 Does this affect us at all when they are starting to liquidate all of these?

01:22:20.500 Who's going to buy them?

01:22:21.680 And does this make us more unstable, or does this help us?

01:22:26.300 Of course it makes us more unstable.

01:22:28.000 They're the ones who called it quantitative easing, so I'm not quite sure why they refused to use the opposite term, quantitative tightening, unless they just want to keep us in the dark.

01:22:38.960 They've never done that before.

01:22:40.340 No.

01:22:40.420 So my concern has been, and I have not heard anybody talk about this.

01:22:46.460 In fact, just as I read a minute ago, everybody seems to be dismissing the impact economically of these hurricanes.

01:22:54.620 And I'm really concerned about Puerto Rico, which has been on the edge of default forever.

01:23:00.460 And now they're saying that the island may be uninhabitable for weeks.

01:23:05.960 There's no electricity.

01:23:07.580 It's been utterly destroyed.

01:23:09.400 How do they make their bond payments?

01:23:11.400 How do they stay solvent?

01:23:13.020 And what does that mean to us?

01:23:14.940 Because aren't we on the hook for them?

01:23:17.300 Absolutely.

01:23:18.140 There is no such thing as a Brexit.

01:23:20.320 It's against the law.

01:23:21.500 We can't jettison Puerto Rico.

01:23:23.100 It's simply not allowed.

01:23:25.160 And, yes, we will be on the hook.

01:23:28.020 Look, fresh data came out that's already showing mortgage delinquencies in August were spiking because of Hurricane Harvey.

01:23:37.580 And that only captured three days of August, and mortgage delinquencies and Harvey's path are already spiking.

01:23:43.860 Well, I've got news for you.

01:23:45.260 The delinquency rate in Puerto Rico is twice the national average.

01:23:50.320 And it will be economically devastating.

01:23:53.100 To that island.

01:23:54.540 So, but what does that mean to, you know, they used to say, if America catches cold, the rest of the world gets sick.

01:24:04.280 What does it mean that Puerto Rico is devastated economically?

01:24:09.520 What will that mean?

01:24:10.600 Will it mean anything to us?

01:24:12.720 Well, it'll just mean that we'll have a bigger tab to cover.

01:24:15.840 The bill will get bigger.

01:24:19.140 So, I mean, I guess that's important if you pay taxes.

01:24:23.100 You know, you said that you were looking at the default of homes, but also auto loans.

01:24:30.740 I've read several stories now.

01:24:33.680 Kentucky, they have just, they're trying to deal with a run on the pensions because people are like, I don't think I'm going to get my pension.

01:24:41.320 So, I'm going to cash out right now.

01:24:43.540 Illinois is the same way.

01:24:45.220 These pensions are so close.

01:24:48.980 How concerned are you with the numbers that you've been watching?

01:24:54.220 Are we where we were last spring or are we closer to the edge?

01:24:59.700 Oh, I would say that we're much closer to the edge.

01:25:03.040 I wrote recently that I mentioned that we should break Illinois up into a few pieces.

01:25:09.660 And boy, did I get a lot of angry neighboring state tweets because they're like, we don't want that garbage.

01:25:15.940 So, the pension issue, they're like, Illinois can stay in Illinois.

01:25:19.860 Thank you.

01:25:20.240 And they're about to elect, I think, a Democratic governor who's going to make the situation worse.

01:25:27.020 And this will end up costing taxpayers a ton of money because nobody will have the means outside of the federal authorities to bail out these states when the time comes.

01:25:38.320 And it will be a bailout.

01:25:40.240 What is Janet Yellen thinking when she says that the economy is growing and it's getting really strong?

01:25:49.900 I don't think there's any real difference from what we were doing to what we are doing now.

01:25:56.220 And I see signs going the opposite direction.

01:25:59.440 What are they doing at the Federal Reserve?

01:26:02.200 I don't know.

01:26:02.780 I want to drink what they're drinking.

01:26:05.060 Can I have a portion, please?

01:26:06.540 I don't know if I want to drink any of that.

01:26:10.240 Look, I mean, the coincidence, if you will, is that the New York Federal Reserve tracks economic growth on a real-time basis.

01:26:23.060 And because of the hurricane's impact on economic growth, because the auto industry is in an outright recession,

01:26:30.300 they've had to take down their estimates for the remainder of the year.

01:26:33.760 And it looks like the U.S. economy is going to grow at 1.8% for all of 2017, which is, oh, by the way, where it's grown for the past decade or so.

01:26:44.560 We call that stagnancy.

01:26:46.040 So I'm not sure where she's getting her information.

01:26:48.980 But you ask the average walking Joe, and they're not going to tell you that we're just booming and going.

01:26:53.640 So tell me about the auto, because you've been looking at auto loan default, because that's a huge bubble,

01:26:58.840 as well as I think we're in another housing, a smaller housing bubble, and we're also in a bubble of college loans.

01:27:05.800 But tell me about the autos, because I've seen recently that the number of autos that are sitting around waiting to be sold as the new ones are coming offline is quite dramatic.

01:27:20.020 Oh, look, Ford announced yesterday that it's going to be putting on hold five of its factories because it's sitting on too much inventory.

01:27:28.500 You know, there was a lot of excitement, if you will, that there were going to be at least a half a million cars destroyed because of these hurricanes.

01:27:36.440 But car sales are already down 3% year over year, even if you absorb a lot of that inventory that's sitting out there in order to replace the vehicles,

01:27:45.100 which I think of that commercial on TV, they're probably going to get three quarters if they're lucky of the car's value.

01:27:50.880 So it'll really help used car sales.

01:27:53.120 But even if it was a whole half million new cars, best case scenario, sales would still be down year over year, and production is still in a recession.

01:28:04.840 Danielle, thank you very much. Thanks for the warning.

01:28:11.480 Danielle DiMartino Booth, she runs an economic consulting firm called Money Strong.

01:28:16.600 Also, you can get her on Twitter at DiMartino Booth or at DiMartino Booth.com.

01:28:23.120 And by the way, the summary of that was it was not good news.

01:28:26.760 I just wanted to, in case it was a little complicated, the situation, not good news.

01:28:33.640 So it's weird she's talking about the auto sales, and I'm looking for a new car.

01:28:42.360 I think I'm going to buy a truck.

01:28:43.880 I go out and try to buy a truck every three years, and then I end up buying something else.

01:28:48.360 But I've been looking at it, and I'm walking on the car lot, and I'm like, why am I buying a new car?

01:28:55.820 Why would I buy a new car?

01:28:57.740 Buy a used car?

01:28:58.640 Why a new car?

01:29:00.660 I mean, I guess I'm getting to that point in life where I'm like, I've purchased so many cars,

01:29:05.360 and I've lost so much money over the years on buying new cars.

01:29:09.980 My dad never had a new car.

01:29:11.880 He couldn't afford one.

01:29:12.920 And the first new car he ever owned was the one I bought for him when I first made it.

01:29:19.900 And I called him up, and I said, because he was having car trouble, and I said,

01:29:24.200 Dad, I want you to go out, you pick out a car that you want, and go buy it.

01:29:29.260 And he's like, oh, son, I can't do that.

01:29:31.000 And I'm like, no, you can, because I'll call the dealership.

01:29:34.000 You pick it out.

01:29:36.000 I'll buy the car for you.

01:29:37.900 I could use a new car.

01:29:39.740 Yeah, no.

01:29:40.240 I mean, I can go to the dealership and pick one out and call you with the details.

01:29:44.320 No, no, that's okay.

01:29:45.540 But that's the first, and I didn't know this.

01:29:48.940 I just knew that we always had, but he had never owned a new car before.

01:29:54.020 And that's because he couldn't afford it.

01:29:56.060 And now I'm just like, this is stupid.

01:29:58.600 Why would you drive it off the lot?

01:30:01.100 But I'm sitting here, and I'm looking at the cars, and I'm thinking,

01:30:03.900 in five years, the cars are going to be completely different.

01:30:07.120 I mean, right now, you're looking at cars that, you know, they're not driving themselves.

01:30:12.480 They don't have all of that technology.

01:30:14.900 And in five years from now, what is a car going to look like?

01:30:19.600 How is it going to be your car?

01:30:21.020 If you own a Tesla, and once they get the self-driving thing done,

01:30:25.900 your car is going to make money for you.

01:30:28.420 You know what I mean?

01:30:29.200 You're going to be able to say, hey, I just need you back here at 2 o'clock,

01:30:33.220 because I've got to go to a luncheon or a meeting or something like that.

01:30:36.660 But you can work from 6 a.m. to 2 p.m., and you go drive people around or whatever.

01:30:41.740 I mean, that's the world that we're coming to,

01:30:44.220 where your car is going to be an asset, not a liability.

01:30:48.860 Until everyone's car is doing the same thing, and there's no money to be made in it.

01:30:53.100 Well, people will buy fewer cars.

01:30:54.820 Yeah, no, it's true.

01:30:55.420 Because once you have access to cars, it will just pick you up.

01:30:59.960 I mean, you don't get into cabs and stuff, because usually the cab drivers,

01:31:05.020 you know, they're not necessarily happy people.

01:31:09.660 At least when you get in.

01:31:10.720 Yes, when I get in, at least in New York.

01:31:12.740 In the New York, cab drivers are not necessarily the cleanest people

01:31:18.720 and not necessarily the happiest people.

01:31:22.580 Uber has helped out, but even Uber driver, that's a thing of the past eventually.

01:31:27.840 Uber drivers, it'll be somebody's car on hire.

01:31:33.980 I mean, I guess.

01:31:35.500 I mean, it's certainly coming at some point.

01:31:39.200 It's hard to imagine.

01:31:40.460 It's really, we've gone so far so fast.

01:31:42.100 You were talking about your car being, maybe this is the last car I buy.

01:31:45.860 Well, I said to you yesterday, we were in the hallway,

01:31:48.040 and I said, this might be the last car that I, last actual car,

01:31:54.000 and this will be, you know, either this one or the next one,

01:31:56.340 the actual last car that I buy, because they're going to change,

01:32:02.040 and eventually, you know, cars will be so radically different

01:32:06.360 that, you know, you'll walk into a garage and you'll see an old car

01:32:11.380 and you'll be like, that's when a car was a car.

01:32:13.940 That's a real engine.

01:32:15.700 That's, you know, you had to drive it yourself,

01:32:18.620 and your kids will be like, they let you drive?

01:32:21.400 I mean, we're entering a period where that could happen in the next 10 years.

01:32:26.780 I was watching a documentary that by the year 2015,

01:32:30.120 cars will all be flying, and there will be several time machines

01:32:33.520 with flux capacitors going around.

01:32:35.540 So you can buy books that predict sports events and go back and change history.

01:32:40.900 I will tell you that, have you seen the Model X Tesla?

01:32:44.260 The SUV?

01:32:45.260 Yeah, it's nice.

01:32:46.520 It is back to the future.

01:32:49.480 It has the DeLorean gullwing doors, and it is back to the future.

01:32:54.280 I mean, it's a crazy car.

01:32:56.060 This is funny, because I swear Elon Musk has, like,

01:32:58.680 this 80s and 90s, like, pop culture sensibility.

01:33:01.640 Like, I noticed that the volume for the speakers goes up to 11,

01:33:08.120 a la Spinal Tap, and, like, there are several things like that in the car.

01:33:13.280 I swear he's doing it because he's just a nerd.

01:33:16.900 Ludicrous speed from Spaceballs?

01:33:20.780 Oh, that's right.

01:33:21.600 It is.

01:33:22.180 It's like the guy just loves weird...

01:33:24.640 Let's get somebody on from Tesla and ask.

01:33:26.540 And ask them.

01:33:27.360 Yeah, because I bet you you're right.

01:33:29.760 I bet you you're right.

01:33:31.640 So, how do you survive an event?

01:33:42.620 How do you survive when the world has gone insane?

01:33:45.720 You survive because you're prepared for them.

01:33:48.140 You can't prepare for everything,

01:33:49.980 but there are a few things that are constant across a crisis

01:33:54.400 if you look at what's happening in Mexico.

01:33:57.560 Holy cow. 0.89

01:33:58.420 Holy cow. 0.89

01:34:01.640 When are they going to go to work again?

01:34:03.160 When will there be, you know, food in a neighborhood grocery store

01:34:10.500 that you can have access to?

01:34:13.300 How many days?

01:34:14.140 Same with the hurricanes.

01:34:17.500 You need an emergency food supply.

01:34:21.180 Now, I happen to have a year's worth because I overprepare for everything

01:34:25.380 because I think the world's headed for real trouble.

01:34:29.620 But a 72-hour kit, everybody should have.

01:34:32.020 And Puerto Rico, they're talking about no power on the island in a lot of places

01:34:35.780 for six months.

01:34:37.160 I mean, you're not overprepared depending on where you are.

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01:35:27.400 Glenn Beck.

01:35:34.160 Glenn Beck.

01:35:36.440 So everybody's been focused on the UN this week and North Korea

01:35:41.340 and what's going to happen with North Korea.

01:35:42.680 I think we may have a way out.

01:35:45.980 Yeah, I mean, we know Kim Jong-un is doing all these nuclear tests

01:35:48.720 and everything else, but he's doing something much worse,

01:35:50.760 which is not paying his parking tickets in New York City.

01:35:54.820 Did you know that?

01:35:55.440 It's $156,000 in parking tickets North Korea apparently owes, reportedly.

01:36:03.240 Because if you have an ambassador plate, they can't tow your car away or anything.

01:36:06.680 They just write you a ticket and it just stacks up and you just take it.

01:36:10.100 They say that 1,300 unpaid parking tickets from North Korea.

01:36:15.800 Is there a negotiation that could go on with that?

01:36:18.440 Yeah, I'm wondering, you give up your nuclear weapons program

01:36:22.740 and we're not going to sick the New York Traffic Authority on you.

01:36:28.260 Fair trade.

01:36:32.080 Glenn Beck.

01:36:33.360 You're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

01:36:39.260 Hey, we want to welcome into Dallas and into our studios the NRA's Women's Leadership Conference

01:36:45.860 is happening.

01:36:47.340 They're having their big event here in the Mercury Studios

01:36:50.400 and having a big dinner tonight.

01:36:52.700 And I'm speaking, and I don't know what I have to share of value,

01:36:57.080 but I'm thrilled that they are here and joining us in the studios all this afternoon and this evening.

01:37:05.420 Also joining us in the studio is Mr. Pat Gray.

01:37:07.720 Stop the hammering!

01:37:10.060 Stop the hammering!

01:37:11.580 I don't care who you have to call the Queen of England.

01:37:17.360 Call the King of Siam.

01:37:18.840 Stop the hammering!

01:37:20.780 Where's the hammer?

01:37:22.400 Where's the hammer?

01:37:23.840 Who's hammering?

01:37:25.380 Stop the hammering!

01:37:27.260 Now, if you don't know what Pat is talking about,

01:37:30.380 I'm talking about the hammering!

01:37:32.760 He's referring to a video that was released yesterday of Lawrence O'Donnell.

01:37:39.760 I can't get enough of it.

01:37:40.760 I really can't get enough of it.

01:37:42.620 I love it.

01:37:43.160 Because it was interesting that Glenn was pretty understanding of a host.

01:37:47.160 I noticed that.

01:37:47.860 Who would be upset.

01:37:49.180 Come on, you would do exactly the same thing.

01:37:53.320 Take out my earpiece!

01:37:56.000 No, no, you didn't see.

01:37:57.540 Yes!

01:37:57.800 No, that's not where the hammering was.

01:37:59.260 Well, that was the talking about Labor Day.

01:38:01.040 There's two things that happened.

01:38:02.520 There's several things that happened.

01:38:03.820 Which would be understandable.

01:38:04.960 You'd be annoyed at it.

01:38:05.600 You'd be irritated.

01:38:06.860 You'd stop for a minute.

01:38:08.580 It's a tape segment.

01:38:09.720 Just stop and fix it.

01:38:11.480 That's all you have to do.

01:38:13.060 He just keeps trying to plow through the hammering and the thing in his earpiece and somebody

01:38:18.720 talking about Labor Day specials.

01:38:20.320 So you are halfway through, more than halfway through, and you're going to stop and then

01:38:26.540 pick up and do the whole piece again?

01:38:28.600 Yes.

01:38:28.860 You plow through it.

01:38:29.940 You plow through it.

01:38:30.600 No, you don't.

01:38:31.380 You would fix that.

01:38:32.940 You would fix it.

01:38:34.040 Honestly?

01:38:34.320 You would call over the director and you'd say, where's this coming from?

01:38:37.000 Can you find out where it's coming from?

01:38:38.420 No, I don't think so.

01:38:39.600 I think you would.

01:38:40.880 Pat.

01:38:41.160 I disagree completely.

01:38:42.280 Pat.

01:38:42.780 And I know.

01:38:43.400 I've seen you in those ten situations.

01:38:44.960 Now, in 1992, you would have been Lawrence O'Donnell to the 99th power.

01:38:49.860 A lot more swearing.

01:38:50.680 But in 2017, you would stop down, I think, ask the director to come over and fix it.

01:38:55.700 Can you fix this?

01:38:56.500 I've got something going on in my earpiece.

01:38:57.900 Yeah, that I would have.

01:38:58.860 Okay, so that I would have.

01:38:59.980 Yes.

01:39:00.400 However, if I'm on the air, now a tape piece is different, and I didn't know it was a tape

01:39:05.680 piece.

01:39:05.940 I thought it was live on the air.

01:39:06.760 If I am on the air and somebody is hammering, you couldn't see me, or let me make it more

01:39:15.740 personal, you couldn't see you saying, what is the deal with the hammering?

01:39:27.480 I thought this was an amazing hypothetical here.

01:39:30.740 Well, I mean, we've had, Stu and I have been down that road a hundred times on Pat and Stu.

01:39:38.000 Yes, when we did the show for multiple years, and I would say Glenn, Beck, usually the one

01:39:44.260 responsible for all the noise.

01:39:47.000 He's bringing in a tour group and talking over here like, oh, that's it.

01:39:50.560 That's the chalkboard that I'm going to use later on.

01:39:53.000 That's the red phone from the Fox set.

01:39:55.340 Okay, we got it.

01:39:56.420 We're on the air.

01:39:57.620 We're doing a show right now on your channel.

01:40:00.820 As I pointed out to you earlier, Lawrence is doing a professional television show.

01:40:10.660 Yeah, I got it.

01:40:11.500 On an actual network.

01:40:13.100 Right.

01:40:13.300 I'm just saying, there is a difference.

01:40:15.560 It's MSNBC, not NBC.

01:40:17.620 Yes.

01:40:18.360 Sort of.

01:40:19.740 The hammering was coming from downstairs where there were professional studios and things

01:40:25.720 going on.

01:40:26.460 Which is why they weren't paying attention to his show going on upstairs.

01:40:30.060 They're like, downstairs, all the NBC chiefs are like, that show's still on?

01:40:35.100 I thought we fired all those people a long time ago.

01:40:38.060 Wait, wait, wait.

01:40:38.800 You're telling me that that news network, we didn't shut down.

01:40:42.640 The one with Microsoft at the beginning of it?

01:40:44.960 That thing's still running?

01:40:46.780 What?

01:40:47.960 The Microsoft NBC channel is still on?

01:40:50.620 Isn't that incredible?

01:40:51.180 It is.

01:40:51.520 Isn't that incredible?

01:40:52.180 It's MS. 0.55

01:40:52.740 MS is Microsoft.

01:40:55.320 Yeah, that's how it started.

01:40:56.300 You completely forget that.

01:40:57.460 Yeah.

01:40:57.800 It's not even anymore, right?

01:40:59.060 I don't even think it's.

01:40:59.660 No, no, no.

01:41:00.100 I don't think so.

01:41:00.900 No, no.

01:41:01.000 They got out of it.

01:41:01.520 In fact, they even separated the website now, right?

01:41:05.000 It's just Microsoft has a website and MSNBC has a website.

01:41:08.560 Yeah.

01:41:08.680 They've separated that whole thing now.

01:41:10.600 Because who'd want to be associated with them?

01:41:13.040 No one.

01:41:14.740 No one.

01:41:16.440 No, not even the Carpenters Union.

01:41:20.600 You notice that guy's like invisible.

01:41:22.360 We don't know who that was with a hammer.

01:41:23.840 He's like, I am not identifying myself as being near that show.

01:41:26.920 There were more people watching Carpenters do their carpentry than watch MSNBC.

01:41:31.440 At least until the last few months.

01:41:33.500 They've had some good ratings lately.

01:41:35.020 I will tell you that the Lawrence O'Donnell show, you know, sometimes it's like, I think

01:41:40.780 God allows, you know, people say, if there is a God, how come he allows war?

01:41:46.400 Because we need to learn geography.

01:41:50.080 Otherwise, no one would know where Iraq is.

01:41:52.140 I don't know where Iraq is.

01:41:53.800 We had to attack it to find out.

01:41:55.000 North Korea.

01:41:56.240 You're like, I don't know.

01:41:57.220 It's around that area.

01:41:58.800 So he teaches you the same thing with a hammering.

01:42:02.020 Hammering.

01:42:02.700 That hammering incident was just God's way of saying, Lawrence O'Donnell still exists.

01:42:09.260 Oh.

01:42:10.200 Okay.

01:42:10.800 Okay.

01:42:11.160 Yeah.

01:42:11.280 So it's like, we were like, huh, that show is still on the air.

01:42:14.440 And actually, I didn't know that.

01:42:16.040 I didn't either.

01:42:17.180 I honestly didn't know it.

01:42:18.460 To be honest.

01:42:19.160 Yeah, that's interesting.

01:42:19.760 So before they end the world on the 23rd, we get to find out that Lawrence O'Donnell is

01:42:24.700 still on the air.

01:42:25.360 Yes.

01:42:25.620 Both signs from God.

01:42:26.540 Yes.

01:42:27.200 Sign of heaven.

01:42:28.540 Stop the hammering.

01:42:29.860 Do we have the actual hammering sound, Sarah?

01:42:32.480 Because I haven't actually.

01:42:32.880 Because I could not hear the hammering sound.

01:42:34.660 Oh, yes, you can.

01:42:35.580 Then you heard an edited version.

01:42:37.000 Okay.

01:42:37.260 Yeah, probably.

01:42:37.520 It's like crazy.

01:42:38.540 Did you hear it too?

01:42:39.000 Pat.

01:42:39.280 It would have made you, you would have lost your mind.

01:42:43.120 Yeah, it would have lost your mind.

01:42:43.860 Let's listen to it.

01:42:44.320 Listen.

01:42:47.500 Okay.

01:42:47.960 Yeah.

01:42:48.420 Yep.

01:42:49.060 That's really bad.

01:42:49.900 Definitely.

01:42:51.180 Definitely.

01:42:52.300 He's in an interview.

01:42:54.940 Yeah.

01:42:55.900 I'd be mad.

01:42:56.660 Is Donald Trump going to be called to testify to Congress?

01:43:01.840 Michael Iscoff has the latest on that.

01:43:03.200 So he's in the middle of.

01:43:05.280 Are you kidding me?

01:43:07.080 Stop the hammering.

01:43:08.480 You'd lose your mind.

01:43:09.860 You'd lose your mind.

01:43:12.140 It just shows you how inconsequential Lawrence O'Donnell's show is and MSNBC is.

01:43:17.200 Doesn't it?

01:43:17.660 Yeah.

01:43:18.040 How does a major television network allow that to happen in the middle of a show?

01:43:23.960 It is rare.

01:43:24.740 However, these things do occur.

01:43:26.400 And everyone gets pissed off at work from time to time.

01:43:29.540 The idea that you're on camera winds up happening.

01:43:32.180 It does happen.

01:43:33.380 I've seen Glenn lose his mind before.

01:43:35.260 We've probably all at some point.

01:43:37.020 Bill O'Reilly.

01:43:37.460 Bill O'Reilly.

01:43:38.280 Yeah.

01:43:38.500 And I don't know that I've ever lost my mind like Lawrence O'Donnell or I've ever seen

01:43:41.460 Glenn lose his mind like that.

01:43:42.900 However, you have your moments of real frustration and you're on camera.

01:43:45.880 However, what is interesting is usually those things only get leaked when the staff does

01:43:51.860 not like you.

01:43:53.080 Oh, yeah.

01:43:53.500 I mean, so Lawrence, you wonder how many times this has happened with Lawrence O'Donnell

01:43:57.200 or if the people in the control room don't really like him that much.

01:44:00.560 And they're like, okay.

01:44:01.680 Really?

01:44:02.700 Really?

01:44:03.120 Really, Mr. Jerkface?

01:44:04.520 Yeah, you're going to love this one.

01:44:06.260 Because that's where it came from.

01:44:07.500 That came from the control room.

01:44:09.000 Somebody in the control room made a copy of that and then posted it.

01:44:13.240 Luckily, I've been taking money from the studios and just funneling it to the control room

01:44:17.000 for months.

01:44:17.480 So they like me a lot.

01:44:19.000 Even when I swear.

01:44:19.660 Oh, man.

01:44:19.680 They are ripping me off twice because I'm doing the same thing.

01:44:23.000 Pat, are you paying them too?

01:44:24.980 I don't have any money to do that.

01:44:26.280 Okay.

01:44:26.520 Hey, can we give a real quick, Jerry Jones, before you leave, I want to play two clips.

01:44:42.240 Do we have time, Sarah, to play two clips?

01:44:44.960 I want to play the Jerry Jones clip and I want to play the Little League clip.

01:44:50.040 Yesterday, you talked about the Little League.

01:44:52.980 The kids.

01:44:53.520 Yeah, the kids.

01:44:55.060 Six, seven, eight-year-old kids taking a knee.

01:44:57.220 Yeah.

01:44:58.080 Here is the coach of the Little League team.

01:45:01.240 One of the kids asked me, did I see them protesting and riding in St. Louis?

01:45:07.600 And I said, yes.

01:45:09.040 I said, do you know why they're doing it?

01:45:10.980 I felt like it was a good teaching moment for me to circle the team up and have a brief

01:45:17.020 meeting.

01:45:17.600 One of the kids asked, can we do that?

01:45:21.000 Those were his words.

01:45:22.020 And I said, as long as we know why we're doing it, I don't have a problem with kneeling.

01:45:26.820 What I teach my kids is love, integrity, honesty, fairness, the respectability of boundaries.

01:45:35.200 As long as I have the support of my parents and my team, I'm perfectly fine.

01:45:40.860 I'm covered under the First Amendment to peacefully protest and assemble.

01:45:45.820 Okay.

01:45:46.980 Yeah, you are.

01:45:48.300 Yeah.

01:45:48.900 Man, thanks for throwing in the assembly part as well.

01:45:52.820 I appreciate that.

01:45:54.480 He's got two of the five, so we're good.

01:45:57.740 Here's Jerry Jones, on the other hand.

01:46:00.000 We are once again seeing these players kneel on the field, not your team, but others.

01:46:06.440 How do you feel about what you're seeing and the disrespect you're seeing towards the American

01:46:10.660 flag right now?

01:46:11.480 Well, I do not think the place to express yourself in society is as we recognize the American

01:46:24.000 flag and all the people that have made this great country the very opportunity for us to

01:46:29.720 be there in front of the nation.

01:46:32.100 So that's not the place to do anything other than honor the flag and everybody that's given

01:46:36.880 up a little for it.

01:46:39.120 I know Stu doesn't like Jerry Jones, but a good statement from Jerry Jones.

01:46:43.480 I don't like his association with the Cowboys.

01:46:45.240 Other than that, he's fine.

01:46:50.400 Pat, we'll see you on Pat Gray Unleashed, Unchained, Unshackled.

01:46:56.880 Unbelievable.

01:46:57.620 Unbelievable.

01:46:58.360 It's one of those.

01:46:59.160 At Pat Unleashed is the Twitter handle, so I'm pretty sure that's the name of the show.

01:47:03.220 I'm pretty sure.

01:47:03.800 All right.

01:47:04.080 And it's coming up in moments.

01:47:04.940 All right.

01:47:05.180 Thanks.

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The Glenn Beck Program - September 21, 2017

9⧸21⧸17 - Free Speech Crisis (Saul Hansell & David Meade join Glenn)

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