The Glenn Beck Program - 9⧸7⧸17

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00:00:10.800 Catastrophe looms over Miami, and it's not just Hurricane Irma.

00:00:15.320 Before the storm arrives, Miami has already had the third worst real estate market among American cities, major American cities.

00:00:23.540 Only Cleveland and Detroit rank lower than Miami in foreclosure rates and delinquent mortgages.

00:00:32.080 Last year, Miami had over 7,000 home foreclosures.

00:00:36.900 7,000 home foreclosures.

00:00:41.120 This year, the number is already over 3,600.

00:00:44.840 Now, Irma is bearing down on South Florida.

00:00:48.640 Category 5 hurricane could make landfall in Miami this weekend.

00:00:54.460 Human toll, of course, the main concern.

00:00:59.040 But the combination of a devastating hurricane hitting a real estate market that is already in shambles could be catastrophic for the entire country,

00:01:07.740 especially if there is any kind of flooding like we have seen in Houston.

00:01:12.340 Flooding in the Miami area already is a serious problem under normal circumstances, never mind a hurricane.

00:01:19.640 Miami just spent $500 million to install anti-flood pumps all around the city, but only 15% of them have been installed so far.

00:01:33.480 Even if they were, engineers warned the pumps would probably fail during a hurricane because there's no backup generators if the city loses power.

00:01:41.760 I mean, who would want a backup generator, you know, in a city that gets hurricanes?

00:01:47.460 You don't need that.

00:01:48.560 By the way, that's exactly what happened last month.

00:01:53.060 A heavy rainstorm, not a hurricane, just a heavy rainstorm, overwhelmed the pump's capacity and caused a power outage that knocked two pump stations offline for almost an hour,

00:02:03.480 long enough to put sections of Miami Beach under several feet of water.

00:02:08.880 Do you remember the great Miami storm of July 2017?

00:02:17.940 No, neither does anybody else.

00:02:20.320 It was a rainstorm.

00:02:23.460 This is Irma.

00:02:27.600 We need to concentrate on the things that are really important and boy, there's a ton happening today.

00:02:33.040 But I want to make you aware that there's only so much a body, a person, and a people and a country can take.

00:02:42.760 War, chaos in the streets, two major hurricanes, another one now developing right behind it.

00:02:53.140 Let's pray for safety.

00:02:54.820 Let's pray that Irma misses.

00:03:00.700 And we miss a housing collapse.

00:03:06.100 Catastrophe could be in the air.

00:03:11.580 But it's not just Hurricane Irma.

00:03:15.680 This is why we have to know who we are as a people and know what's important and hold on to our values and our principles.

00:03:35.640 The hurricane, the winds are blowing everywhere.

00:03:40.780 But I don't think there were heavier winds than the winds that were blowing in Washington, D.C. yesterday.

00:03:48.220 I mean, there's always hot air.

00:03:50.020 There's always a ton of hot air blowing in Washington, D.C.

00:03:53.460 But yesterday, the winds changed and it was remarkable.

00:03:58.280 May I just take you back for just a second, you know, and and review the past and see if there was anyone that might give us a piece of advice on what happened yesterday?

00:04:15.460 We have the Ted Cruz.

00:04:16.420 If as a voter, you think what we need is more Republicans in Washington to cut a deal with Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, then I guess Donald Trump's your guy.

00:04:25.500 Typical lie in Ted.

00:04:29.300 Ouch.

00:04:30.100 I'll say this, Glenn.

00:04:31.280 Harry Reid's retired.

00:04:32.680 That was a lie.

00:04:33.860 He only cut the deal with Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi.

00:04:37.560 Could you explain exactly what happened yesterday, Stu?

00:04:40.800 Because it's pretty amazing.

00:04:43.340 They went into a debt ceiling sort of conference.

00:04:46.260 It was supposed to be a bipartisan negotiation.

00:04:50.460 What it seems like from all the reporting and it does.

00:04:54.440 There's been no disagreement from the White House on this.

00:04:57.060 Donald Trump, the Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan all in a room.

00:05:04.300 McConnell and Ryan trying to basically say, hey, we want 18 months of this if we're, you know, so they're trying to get a stronger negotiation negotiating position.

00:05:13.460 On the other side is, are the Democrats.

00:05:17.500 And they say they don't want, they want to get stuff for their debt ceiling votes.

00:05:22.620 This is what's happened every single time.

00:05:24.280 So the Republicans say we want 18 months.

00:05:27.080 Democrats say, no, we're not doing that.

00:05:29.420 They jump in again and say, well, what if we do something shorter?

00:05:32.440 Six months.

00:05:34.120 The Democrats say, well, I don't know.

00:05:36.780 Maybe we'll give you three.

00:05:37.520 And then Trump jumps in and says, you know what?

00:05:40.160 Yeah, three.

00:05:41.060 And the problem is it's a deal that Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer are celebrating.

00:05:45.120 They love this deal.

00:05:46.400 It's put them in a much stronger negotiating position on every other part of this.

00:05:49.980 And I guess the larger point here is whether you were a reluctant Trump voter or an enthusiastic Trump voter, there is no one who voted for Donald Trump so that he could make deals with Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer.

00:06:02.440 But what if this is the right deal, Stu?

00:06:05.220 I'm not against making deals with the Democrats.

00:06:08.120 I mean, as long as it's the right deal.

00:06:10.900 Really?

00:06:11.620 I mean, again, you're right.

00:06:13.080 If they come up with lower taxes and better things, I guess that would be.

00:06:16.760 Well, Chuck Schumer was talking.

00:06:18.120 No, I'm sorry.

00:06:18.620 Not Chuck Schumer.

00:06:19.640 Who is the Democrat that he put on the plane with him yesterday?

00:06:23.160 Did you read this article?

00:06:24.800 I don't have it here in front of me.

00:06:26.260 I'll have it for later in the program.

00:06:27.780 He put he put a Democrat on the air on Air Force One with him yesterday and they were talking and she said, you know what?

00:06:36.720 Oh, Heitkamp.

00:06:37.840 Yeah.

00:06:38.160 I want to hear what he has to say about taxes.

00:06:40.700 You know, maybe we can come together on taxes because Heitkamp is, you know, a Democrat in a state that voted for, you know, 70, 60, 70 percent for Donald Trump.

00:06:49.180 Very popular.

00:06:50.500 Tax reform is very popular in the state.

00:06:52.520 Yes.

00:06:52.760 So, look, if you this is the thing, if you can convince Democrats to vote for your stuff, great.

00:06:59.580 When you are abandoning your stuff to vote with Democrats, bad.

00:07:03.780 OK, so here's the thing.

00:07:04.880 Here's here's I've been trying to think of ways to explain how I feel today.

00:07:10.820 No, not how I feel.

00:07:11.960 No, I don't think I'm going to express how I feel today.

00:07:15.820 I was going to express what happened yesterday and I've come up with three ways to explain it.

00:07:24.300 One, a casino.

00:07:26.540 Two, golf and three, Aztec soccer.

00:07:32.160 Where do you want to start?

00:07:33.580 Let's start with a casino.

00:07:34.720 Let's start with a casino.

00:07:37.060 Here's what here's what the game we're playing.

00:07:39.740 We have decided that winning is all we want to do.

00:07:44.660 We want to beat the house.

00:07:46.960 We're going to beat the house.

00:07:49.520 We are going to we're going to win and we're going to beat the casino.

00:07:54.240 That's not the same as saying I want to win and leave with more money than the casino kept.

00:08:04.960 All I want to do is beat the house.

00:08:10.000 I want to have them lose.

00:08:12.620 Okay.

00:08:15.200 There's a couple of things that could happen.

00:08:16.700 If you just want to make sure that the casino loses, you will forget about how much they're charging you in food, in the hotel rooms and everything else because you're just focused on winning at the table.

00:08:33.560 So they might even let you win at the table.

00:08:37.380 But you didn't really accomplish your goal.

00:08:39.700 You were just so focused and beating them at the table that you've failed to see that they just raped you for the rest of the weekend.

00:08:49.260 You actually left with a lot less money.

00:08:52.840 Oh, no, but you won at the table.

00:08:56.480 The table wasn't the game you should be paying attention to because that was no longer the game the casino was playing.

00:09:04.480 The casino was saying, let's get the real money.

00:09:07.500 Not the chump change that we're putting down on the floor.

00:09:14.220 There's example number one.

00:09:16.780 Be careful on what your goal is and make sure that it is specific enough.

00:09:21.960 Oh, by the way, there's another way that this could be played out of the casino.

00:09:25.480 If all you care about is making sure that you win.

00:09:32.320 If the casino knows that and they start to say, you know what?

00:09:37.440 They hate us so much.

00:09:40.360 All they want to do is win.

00:09:42.520 If we if we start making it so if we lose, we end up making more money, for instance, let's do this.

00:09:57.860 Let's make sure that we're paying everything out.

00:10:02.480 Let's just make sure that we're paying out that we just you're just making a ton of money at the table.

00:10:08.120 And we want you to win and take that money from us.

00:10:13.400 If you're only concerned about them losing and they've changed the game on you.

00:10:20.360 You actually lose.

00:10:23.240 Because all you're concerned about is them losing.

00:10:27.060 But if they're paying out.

00:10:29.840 In a different way.

00:10:32.700 What have you done?

00:10:33.840 What have you won?

00:10:35.060 Nothing.

00:10:35.540 You walk out feeling good, but they changed the rules on you.

00:10:39.940 We go to golf.

00:10:41.860 Let's try golf.

00:10:47.020 Aren't you tired of going to the golf course?

00:10:50.160 And just having a crappy day?

00:10:55.260 Just you can never get it right.

00:10:57.620 No matter what you do.

00:10:59.280 And all your friends are better.

00:11:00.760 And you go out and you're just you just keep.

00:11:04.840 You just keep swinging away.

00:11:07.940 But you're tired of losing.

00:11:11.280 And somebody comes up to you and says, you know what?

00:11:15.460 I'm going to make sure you win.

00:11:17.660 I'm going to make sure that you win.

00:11:20.640 Here's here's what we're going to do.

00:11:21.860 First of all, this game is stupid.

00:11:24.060 We're going to revolutionize this game.

00:11:26.380 This game is the dumbest thing ever.

00:11:30.780 First of all, they're lying to you.

00:11:32.500 They're all lying to you.

00:11:34.560 Have you ever heard of a game where the low score wins?

00:11:38.680 No.

00:11:40.220 Is it low score wins in football?

00:11:42.180 No.

00:11:42.660 Basketball?

00:11:43.440 No.

00:11:43.740 Soccer?

00:11:44.540 No.

00:11:44.960 Rugby?

00:11:45.840 Cricket?

00:11:46.940 Anything?

00:11:47.820 Low score wins?

00:11:48.920 No.

00:11:49.980 No.

00:11:50.840 They've been lying to you.

00:11:52.760 High score wins.

00:11:53.620 Now you're playing golf and the guy who's your coach, the guy who's leading your team to victory

00:12:03.380 is telling you high score wins.

00:12:07.480 And everybody who is telling you it's low score wins, they're lying to you.

00:12:12.220 So the people who are on the side and they're doing the polite little golf claps and they're

00:12:16.540 like, by the way, low score wins.

00:12:18.600 Because if all you want to do is win and you've forgotten the principles of the game you're

00:12:26.360 playing, you don't get the cup at the end.

00:12:31.840 Because you've forgotten the basic principles of the game you're playing.

00:12:37.820 And you can say you're going to revolutionize.

00:12:40.800 You're going to revolutionize golf.

00:12:42.320 We're all going to revolutionize golf.

00:12:43.620 Well, not if you're playing with the guy who actually owns the club.

00:12:50.680 And he somehow or another is the one who's convinced you low score wins.

00:12:55.500 He's winning anyway because you've paid him to be on the golf course.

00:13:01.320 He wins.

00:13:02.940 You lose.

00:13:05.660 Last one.

00:13:07.460 Aztec soccer.

00:13:08.360 I don't know how the Aztecs lasted as long as they did.

00:13:17.740 Everybody tried to win Aztec soccer.

00:13:23.040 Except if I'm not mistaken, the ones who won in Aztec soccer were the ones to be sacrificed.

00:13:34.740 I don't know.

00:13:36.200 I mean, if my coach is like, and you're going to get sick of winning, we're going to win so much.

00:13:41.200 I'm like, no, I think I want to be sick of losing because the people who win are going to die.

00:13:47.120 So I won't have the opportunity to win again.

00:13:51.840 So I think I'm going to let this one go.

00:13:56.780 The Aztecs cheered on.

00:13:59.240 And the teams, actually, I don't know about you, but I'd want to be on the team that sucked.

00:14:05.840 I think I would be rooting for a guy like me to be on the soccer team.

00:14:12.400 If winning meant we all died.

00:14:18.180 Here's the problem with the Aztec soccer, as I understand it.

00:14:22.080 Nobody was really looking at the cup.

00:14:27.280 Everybody was wanting to win.

00:14:30.840 But did you look at what winning meant?

00:14:36.940 That would be one time I would win once and I'd be like, yeah, I am sick of winning.

00:14:40.760 I am sick of winning.

00:14:43.640 Yeah, I didn't know we were all going to die here.

00:14:48.500 It's important that you look at what your goal is.

00:14:52.680 It's important that you remember the rules of the game.

00:14:56.780 And it's important that you actually examine what you're trying to win in the end.

00:15:03.440 It seems to me we have forgotten all three of those lessons.

00:15:07.020 And probably one more.

00:15:15.560 And it's weird because I think I started this week with North Korea.

00:15:23.480 This is not a game.

00:15:26.700 This is real life.

00:15:32.140 The only way to win is to not play the game.

00:15:37.020 When you happen to be online or whatever, your phone rings, and you hear a voice say,

00:15:47.120 Shall we play a game?

00:15:49.280 The answer should be, ah, no.

00:15:53.760 No.

00:15:55.120 Let's not play a game.

00:15:57.080 Because the only way to win is to not play.

00:16:00.900 I really want to hear from you today because I just, I want to know how you're feeling.

00:16:27.700 I want to know what you're feeling.

00:16:29.380 I want to, how do we process this one?

00:16:34.980 It seems as though the president has done, you know, what some have feared.

00:16:41.860 And that is sell everybody down the river and just start siding with the Democrats.

00:16:49.820 And we've talked to a few people on Capitol Hill today, at least our producers and writers from the Blaze have.

00:16:57.880 And they have, they have said that it's eerie, that Capitol Hill is eerie today.

00:17:04.820 Nobody really knows what to do and how to, how to talk to each other.

00:17:09.820 They said, it's just, um, it's deadly silent in the Capitol because no one knows what to say.

00:17:20.040 So what do we say?

00:17:22.180 Where are we on this?

00:17:23.900 What does this, what does this mean?

00:17:26.760 How do you feel?

00:17:28.000 You're a Trump supporter.

00:17:29.400 You're not a Trump supporter.

00:17:30.800 How do you process this?

00:17:34.160 888-727-BECK, 888-727-BECK is the phone number.

00:17:39.900 It's, it's a strange place to be because I think, you know, a lot of the stuff he did say he would do during the campaign.

00:17:45.600 He did promise to be the dealmaker.

00:17:47.080 He did be promised to be the guy who would reach across the aisle and do these things.

00:17:50.800 I think a lot of people believed he was kind of just saying that in the campaign.

00:17:54.600 Uh, and that when he got into office, he would do the opposite.

00:17:59.780 I don't, you see, I don't mind.

00:18:01.580 I mean, you're going to make a deal.

00:18:02.740 I don't mind making a deal, but what have we lost?

00:18:05.580 We've, we've lost any ground on the deficit matters, the debt matters, spending under control, DACA.

00:18:15.020 We're going to lose.

00:18:16.820 We're already negotiating now for, uh, you know, comprehensive immigration reform, which is,

00:18:22.940 which is the thing that Donald Trump used to run everyone off the stage to win the nomination and win the presidency.

00:18:30.880 He said that he was not going to take any kind of budget deal that didn't include, this was just a few weeks ago,

00:18:36.780 that didn't include, uh, uh, money for the border.

00:18:42.080 Well, there's no money for the border in this.

00:18:45.180 So what did you gain?

00:18:48.600 What did Donald Trump gain?

00:18:50.780 What did the Republicans gain?

00:18:52.480 What did conservatives gain?

00:18:54.020 What did, where is the gain here?

00:18:57.340 Where is the win?

00:18:58.980 Yeah, because I think the, the, the typical way you go into this is step one, win, step two,

00:19:04.700 get your policy results with Trump.

00:19:06.600 It's step one, win, step two, see step one.

00:19:10.180 Mercury.

00:19:10.620 This is the Glenn Beck program.

00:19:25.620 Let's go to Jake in Virginia.

00:19:27.320 Hello, Jake.

00:19:28.080 Welcome to the program.

00:19:30.680 Hey, Mr. Beck.

00:19:31.540 How are you doing?

00:19:32.040 Very good.

00:19:32.480 Um, yeah.

00:19:34.720 So I, I know you were calling and asking people to kind of call and tell you what they were

00:19:38.200 thinking and feeling.

00:19:39.780 Um, I'm 23.

00:19:41.500 I'm in college now.

00:19:42.820 I got married, uh, three years ago when I was, I had just turned 20 and my wife was 19.

00:19:47.120 And we, she just graduated from nursing school and she's a nurse.

00:19:52.200 And as I, as I kind of look out into the future and see, uh, a growing debt, politicians who

00:19:59.760 aren't necessarily being honest with us, um, North Korea tensions rising, it kind of makes

00:20:05.800 me fearful because a, my generation is showing a lack of motivation for driving towards better

00:20:11.020 things and politicians aren't really being honest with us.

00:20:14.780 So it makes me fearful of what my future will look like.

00:20:17.660 Cause a, I don't want to enter into a draft.

00:20:19.440 B, I don't want to even send anyone else to war for me.

00:20:24.120 And I want, I want to graduate and have a decent job.

00:20:27.680 So I'm very fearful about what the future.

00:20:30.000 So, so let me ask you this, Jake, why do you say that your, um, your generation is not

00:20:34.400 driving towards, um, greater things?

00:20:36.860 Cause in some ways it depends on who you're surrounded by.

00:20:40.300 I guess I see, I see millennials that are driving towards better things.

00:20:45.460 I definitely think there are as a small pocket of that.

00:20:50.080 However, I think that if you're going to like a university, there is a lot of like, you know,

00:20:55.560 like it's like who you see with the Bernie supporters.

00:20:58.640 Like it's all the millennials following who are just striving for the socialism ideal that

00:21:03.340 is ineffective and cannot work out.

00:21:05.820 And they don't do the research themselves to look into what socialism does in Venezuela

00:21:10.580 or North Korea or Cuba or, and, you know, I've traveled like all over the world with

00:21:15.140 my dad and I've seen those things play out.

00:21:17.440 And I don't think that my generation has necessarily seen those things play out because they weren't,

00:21:22.100 they were raised in a relatively peaceful bubble.

00:21:24.920 Uh, and you're worried about, uh, DACA.

00:21:30.620 Why exactly?

00:21:32.820 I'm worried about DACA because I feel like they don't see the longterm or like my generation

00:21:37.520 doesn't look at the longterm economical instability that that will cause.

00:21:44.520 In what, in what way?

00:21:47.440 I think it will make, um, jobs harder to find.

00:21:50.860 And I think that it will make civil unrest, which would be my main concern.

00:21:55.840 That would be, I feel like that would cause some kind of economic fall as if right and

00:22:00.480 left are just constantly after each other.

00:22:02.860 And it would cause economic unrest.

00:22:04.700 Why?

00:22:06.820 Just because I think that civil unrest naturally causes, uh, economic.

00:22:10.780 Right.

00:22:11.100 But why would it cause, wait, why would, why would, uh, DACA cause civil unrest?

00:22:20.860 Um, person, I think it would just simply be, be because the right is so like anti the dream

00:22:27.480 or like wanting to stop the dreaming dreamer movement.

00:22:30.020 Yes.

00:22:30.480 Left is so for it.

00:22:31.660 And that that's going to make left call out for more racism on the, or say that more,

00:22:36.060 the right is racist.

00:22:37.120 The right's going to want to stop that.

00:22:38.980 And then you'll just see civil unrest because they're arguing about who's racist,

00:22:42.760 who's not racist and stuff like that.

00:22:44.380 And so what, what did, what Donald Trump did this week by saying, uh, you know what, let's,

00:22:51.520 let's just make DACA the law.

00:22:54.560 Let's just make it the law the right way and not through a political or a presidential edict.

00:23:00.120 Does that help or hurt and why?

00:23:04.600 I, well, I don't really know how I feel about it in a political, like personal perspective.

00:23:09.900 I do like that.

00:23:10.660 It's not necessarily an executive order being passed.

00:23:13.000 Yes.

00:23:14.380 Like I like, I like the fact that it's being sent back to a legislative branch and that

00:23:17.460 that's those constitutional powers are being reestablished or well, you know.

00:23:21.500 Okay.

00:23:21.960 So, but you're, you're for the, you're for the dream act being legalized.

00:23:27.640 Honestly, I don't really know how I feel about it all.

00:23:29.620 Okay.

00:23:30.520 All right.

00:23:30.860 Jake.

00:23:31.120 I don't like the, I don't like the instability between left and right.

00:23:34.120 I wish there could be some common resolution together.

00:23:36.900 I think you are, I think you are really the typical American in a good way.

00:23:42.480 I think that's exactly where the typical American is.

00:23:45.400 They're not really sure.

00:23:46.560 At this point, they're not really sure.

00:23:48.440 They just know what's coming on the horizon is not good.

00:23:53.540 The political instability is just not good.

00:23:56.220 Thanks, Jake.

00:23:56.840 And they don't want the fight, right?

00:23:58.020 They don't want the argument.

00:23:59.360 And, you know, but it's, it's amazing.

00:24:01.080 I mean, this was the standard.

00:24:02.400 The standard for being tough on the border was whether you opposed or supported the dream

00:24:07.320 act.

00:24:07.720 Yeah.

00:24:08.000 Now, and it's, he's right.

00:24:09.960 Trump is right to say this is unconstitutional.

00:24:12.320 It was done the wrong way.

00:24:13.800 He's right.

00:24:14.140 Get rid of it.

00:24:14.620 He's right on that.

00:24:15.540 But the solution is we need to make sure we get this done another way.

00:24:19.900 When did that become the conservative position on the border?

00:24:22.940 I mean, I don't remember that change.

00:24:25.200 I think that everything has been rearranged.

00:24:27.600 Remember, you know, you see in revolutions, what happens in revolutions is the time goes

00:24:36.060 by and you, they rearrange the deck chairs so many different times that once they sit

00:24:42.940 down, once the deck chairs, then the dust settles, it could be arranged in a completely

00:24:48.420 different way.

00:24:49.900 And you would go, oh, no, it's always been like this.

00:24:53.040 This is okay.

00:24:53.580 I think this is the way it's always been because so much time has gone by and you haven't seen

00:24:59.280 the deck chairs the way they're supposed to be, you know, set for so long that once it's

00:25:04.660 just set in any way, you're like, okay, no, this is, this is right.

00:25:07.820 And I think everything is so in flux that you don't know, you don't know what's right and

00:25:13.180 wrong anymore.

00:25:14.040 You don't even know what your position was at the beginning or why.

00:25:18.140 Nick in Ohio, go ahead.

00:25:20.160 You're on.

00:25:21.500 Hi.

00:25:21.940 Um, yeah, I just wanted to say about yesterday, it's another knee jerk reaction and overreaction

00:25:28.460 to everything the president does.

00:25:31.220 Um, had he not reached out to the left, he would have been condemned.

00:25:35.520 It's not like waiting on the right has been working out for him either.

00:25:39.940 Um, they're not doing anything spectacular to, to help on anything right now.

00:25:44.380 So he reaches across the aisle and gets something done quickly.

00:25:48.140 What did he get done yesterday?

00:25:51.020 What did he get done yesterday, Nick?

00:25:52.520 That helps you.

00:25:54.260 It helps me.

00:25:55.540 Not a lot.

00:25:56.460 What was tied to the debt ceiling was the help for Texas.

00:26:02.380 The Republicans were trying to tie that money to a long-term approach.

00:26:06.660 Right.

00:26:06.940 And it was going to delay that forever while they, well, let's try 18 months.

00:26:12.120 They don't go back again.

00:26:13.080 Well, let's try a year because it was not going to pass through.

00:26:16.180 Get the money through.

00:26:17.460 We kick it till December, which is better than kicking it 18 months and see what we can do.

00:26:22.200 At least he's working with the left.

00:26:24.480 They can't complain about that now.

00:26:25.980 They can't, but can't you?

00:26:29.740 I can.

00:26:30.980 I can complain that nobody's working with him.

00:26:33.560 Again, nothing he does is making anyone happy right now, but it seems like he's at least taking a step forward.

00:26:41.320 All right.

00:26:41.640 So how do you feel about, how do you feel, how do you feel about DACA?

00:26:46.200 You voted for Donald Trump?

00:26:48.680 Yes, sir.

00:26:49.440 Okay.

00:26:49.720 So how do you feel about what he did with DACA this week?

00:26:52.600 Uh, I think that's actually a very simple topic.

00:26:58.380 Uh, it was done illegally.

00:27:00.200 There was always a standing order.

00:27:02.280 Everybody just kind of looked the other way.

00:27:04.480 Sure.

00:27:04.840 What President Obama did was not legal.

00:27:07.820 Right.

00:27:08.200 Correct.

00:27:08.680 So all he did was undo something that was illegal and ask Congress to take a look at it and see what we can officially do about it.

00:27:17.100 But, but he's saying he wants to, he wants to make it permanent.

00:27:20.660 He wants to make it permanent.

00:27:21.760 He wants to make it law.

00:27:22.880 So he's actually entrenching it more to put 800,000 illegal immigrants would get legal status or some form of legal status because the president has demanded the GOP Congress do that.

00:27:35.760 Is that, I mean, because I don't think, I think there are a lot of people who voted for Trump who, who like what he's done.

00:27:41.020 But I don't think anybody voted for Trump because they, he wanted to, because he was going to get 800,000 illegal immigrants and give them legal status and then B, uh, work with Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi.

00:27:51.020 That's not why anybody voted for him.

00:27:52.880 Whether you were, you know, enthusiastic for him or you were, you know, maybe not so enthusiastic.

00:27:57.900 Well, I, I think the, the whole dreamers thing is ridiculous.

00:28:02.300 Um, but we know that.

00:28:04.820 Did you believe that?

00:28:05.520 Hang on just a second.

00:28:06.380 Did you believe that when, uh, Donald Trump was making fun of little Marco by saying he was for the dream, uh, the dreamers?

00:28:14.660 Uh, uh, and, uh, that, uh, he was going to work with the, uh, democratic Congress to get, uh, comprehensive immigration reform through.

00:28:26.020 Did, did you, did you say, well, come on, Donald, this is ridiculous.

00:28:30.480 That's not what Marco is doing.

00:28:31.960 Or did you say, yeah, he's right.

00:28:36.940 What, what I think is going to have, what I wanted to happen was shut the doors.

00:28:41.040 And realistically, we're not going to transport 800,000 people back across the border.

00:28:46.640 They're here.

00:28:47.520 They're fine.

00:28:48.220 They're contributing.

00:28:49.300 Great.

00:28:49.940 So nothing we're going to do about.

00:28:51.640 So did we, did we shut the door?

00:28:54.540 No, no.

00:28:55.480 Did we, did we use, did we use DACA?

00:28:58.380 Did we use DACA as a bargaining chip?

00:29:01.760 Something that the left really wanted.

00:29:04.860 And so then we say, okay, we'll work on that.

00:29:08.620 Because as you just said, Nick, which I doubt is what you said during the election.

00:29:13.440 Um, but, um, because you just said now, look, we're realistically not going to get 800,000

00:29:18.640 people back.

00:29:19.280 Okay.

00:29:20.460 Um, but did you, did we get a bargaining chip and say, okay, but I need border security because

00:29:28.680 the other thing you left out on what he was negotiating for, uh, was border security.

00:29:34.700 He said he would not, he would shut the two weeks ago.

00:29:37.920 I will shut the government down before I do any continuing resolution or anything with

00:29:43.780 a debt ceiling, uh, without border security.

00:29:46.740 So you lost the bargaining chip with the Democrats.

00:29:50.180 You lost shutting the door.

00:29:53.520 You have just, I mean, read the Huffington post today.

00:29:56.780 They are thrilled at what they have just received from the president.

00:30:01.660 And what did we receive in return?

00:30:05.900 Uh, not a lot.

00:30:07.220 The optimist tells me it's all part of the bigger deal.

00:30:09.960 The real, I just screwed up, you know, if he's the deal maker, he says he is.

00:30:15.820 And at this point we have no choice, but to believe that then hopefully it's part of the

00:30:19.940 bigger deal.

00:30:21.200 Um, okay.

00:30:22.020 I wish he could get some support from his side though, because nothing's happening on

00:30:26.240 that side either.

00:30:27.660 Yeah.

00:30:28.040 That's the biggest issue.

00:30:29.180 Give him, give him something to work with.

00:30:31.500 Okay.

00:30:32.100 Nick, thank you very much for your call.

00:30:33.920 I would like to, I would like to suggest that there is something else.

00:30:40.480 We have no other choice.

00:30:43.380 Uh, yes, you do.

00:30:45.940 Yes, you do.

00:30:46.780 Return to principles and encourage everyone else on the left and the right to return to

00:30:53.700 principles, because I really, truly believe the first caller we just took, he's the average

00:30:59.180 person.

00:30:59.700 Look, I don't want civil unrest.

00:31:01.760 I don't want civil unrest.

00:31:03.600 I don't want to play this game anymore where we're fighting with each other all the time.

00:31:07.980 I don't, I don't want that.

00:31:09.080 I don't want to Anifa.

00:31:10.300 I don't want the Nazis.

00:31:11.780 I don't want the extremes.

00:31:14.700 That's the average person.

00:31:16.900 So now the average person can win.

00:31:21.800 If we just start to come together and say, look, I'm afraid of my side as much as you're

00:31:27.060 afraid of your side.

00:31:28.000 And I'll admit it.

00:31:29.300 Will you admit that you're afraid of the Antifa's of the world?

00:31:33.660 And I'm not talking about the politicians.

00:31:35.520 The last one you're going to get on this bandwagon, the politicians, but the American

00:31:39.860 people need to stand together.

00:31:42.460 And that's where the president can make deals.

00:31:46.120 The president can make deals and say, look, the dream act is wrong, but people have been

00:31:54.520 here since they were, they were, you know, an infant.

00:31:57.060 What are we going to do?

00:32:00.000 We have to do something.

00:32:01.780 Now, when I said that, uh, and I said, but I will not negotiate until the border is secure

00:32:10.020 because I said that we have to look at pieces individually.

00:32:16.420 I was a sellout, but now the president does it and we get nothing in return.

00:32:25.180 And I'm sorry, but you're, you might as well go and put your wishes and your hopes, hopes

00:32:29.800 in John Roberts and his deep plan for, uh, Obamacare.

00:32:35.060 Uh, and also pin that right onto the tail of a unicorn.

00:32:40.840 There is no strategy here.

00:32:42.820 It is just about winning.

00:32:45.420 Stop it.

00:32:47.100 How about we advance principles that we all have in common?

00:32:52.320 Common sense, take care of things that we can move logically and without the game of politics.

00:33:06.320 There's more to life than just winning.

00:33:08.100 Now, this is incredible from USA today, dozens of lobbyists, contractors, and others who

00:33:34.840 make their living, influencing the government pay president Trump's companies for membership

00:33:38.920 to his private golf clubs.

00:33:40.320 Now, this is from USA today.

00:33:42.300 What they did is they, the golf club, uh, membership list are secret.

00:33:49.400 So they've been unable to figure out who is the, who's paying the president.

00:33:54.980 So what they did is they, they've, they took and they correlated a few things to see who's

00:34:02.460 actually playing at the golf courses where the president is.

00:34:06.000 So the USA today went through 4,500 members they could find by reviewing social media and

00:34:11.880 public, a public website.

00:34:13.160 This is the amazing part.

00:34:14.660 They, they checked it against a public website that golfers use to track their handicaps.

00:34:21.380 And so they were able to find that 50 executives whose companies held federal contracts and 21

00:34:27.340 lobbyists and trade group officials, uh, were in there with Trump and that, and they, they,

00:34:32.620 two thirds of them played on one of the days that the president was there.

00:34:34.920 So here's the thing.

00:34:35.480 They've spent all this time, all this money to find out these things about this president,

00:34:40.500 but they wouldn't check the public records of people like Van Jones saying, I am a communist

00:34:47.140 and I'm glad to be in the white house.

00:34:50.140 He was basically tweeting it.

00:34:51.880 I mean, I can't wait.

00:34:53.060 I just showed up at the white house.

00:34:54.340 Can't wait to hang the hammer and sickle mercury.

00:35:04.460 Love courage truth.

00:35:07.900 The art of the bad deal.

00:35:10.380 Trump has cut a deal with democratic leaders to increase the debt limit to finance the government

00:35:15.540 until mid December.

00:35:17.440 However, the deal isn't about Donald Trump.

00:35:20.640 The deal proposed by Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi combined the debt ceiling increase with

00:35:26.920 relief aid for Harvey victims.

00:35:29.640 Now we could talk about the GOP's refusal to address runaway spending.

00:35:35.040 We could talk about how unserious Washington is on either side about restraining the deficit

00:35:40.820 in the debt.

00:35:42.300 We could talk about how unserious both sides are about securing the border because that was

00:35:47.700 also left out of this deal.

00:35:49.820 And this morning, Donald Trump just tweeted, if you're in DACA, don't worry, you're okay.

00:35:55.840 No action for six months.

00:35:59.000 Well, Politico just reported that Nancy Pelosi called him this morning and asked him to tweet

00:36:05.820 that and he did.

00:36:08.640 Now, is that even true?

00:36:09.980 And did Nancy Pelosi, if it is, did she call him and ask him to tweet that because she wanted

00:36:17.080 to make sure that everybody was calm or was she just setting the president up so we could

00:36:23.200 score political points one side or the other?

00:36:27.000 We could talk about these things or we could just look in the mirror and ask the really hard question.

00:36:35.100 How much do we as people actually care about all of this stuff?

00:36:40.100 How much do we actually care about immigration and immigrants?

00:36:45.020 The debt and the debt ceiling.

00:36:48.800 How much do we care?

00:36:50.860 The reason Washington has been able to kick the can down the road to this point is because

00:36:54.760 we put up with it over and over and over again.

00:36:58.220 Our government is not like all governments everywhere else.

00:37:02.600 Our government is a reflection of who we are as a people.

00:37:07.040 And right now, as a country, we are a people that would rather talk about the personalities

00:37:12.140 in a meeting than about the debt ceiling or the debt itself.

00:37:16.840 We would rather whine about our politicians.

00:37:20.060 We'd rather whine about our media.

00:37:21.980 We'd rather gossip about who has hurt feelings than worry about who we've vote for over and

00:37:29.220 over and over again that would lead us to a place where they're passing this bill to the

00:37:34.740 next generation.

00:37:36.920 Yeah, this is a really bad deal.

00:37:39.260 Really bad.

00:37:40.680 But America has turned accepting bad deals into an art form.

00:37:46.860 It's time we ask ourselves some hard questions.

00:37:50.120 And it's time we spit ourselves out of this system.

00:37:59.220 Thursday, September 7th.

00:38:04.740 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:38:09.920 Saw a movie.

00:38:11.440 Saw a movie, what, yesterday?

00:38:13.820 Night before last.

00:38:15.980 It's Vince Flynn's first Mitch Rapp movie, American Assassin.

00:38:20.580 And I just think Mitch Rapp is one of the best characters in fiction now.

00:38:28.360 In case you don't know, Vince is a, it was the Tom Clancy, I think, of our day.

00:38:34.240 He was just, he was a fantastic writer and a very good friend.

00:38:38.380 And I remember sitting in, just outside of my apartment in New York City.

00:38:44.120 He and his wife and his daughter came to have dinner with me and we sat there.

00:38:51.600 And the whole dinner, he talked about how worried he was about me with George Soros.

00:38:59.700 And this is at the beginning of George Soros putting up a million dollars to destroy me

00:39:04.620 and my career and everything else.

00:39:05.980 And he was, he just kept focused on that.

00:39:09.300 And then he said, I want to, I want to go up to your apartment, Glenn, because we were

00:39:16.980 going to, we were going to go and have dessert.

00:39:18.660 And he said, I want to come up to your apartment.

00:39:20.100 I'd really like to see, because you really have to secure yourself.

00:39:24.460 I said, oh, okay.

00:39:25.640 So we go up and, and he's, we're looking out this windows and he's like, possible surveillance

00:39:31.580 point.

00:39:32.040 And I'm like, Vince, I love it.

00:39:33.960 It's not, I'm not living in one of your books.

00:39:36.260 And he's like, I'm just telling you, you're messing with George Soros.

00:39:39.300 We sit down and we're, uh, and we're having some dessert.

00:39:45.240 And he says to me, I just found out I have cancer.

00:39:57.260 Vince, isn't this probably a more important thing to talk about than what we've been talking

00:40:03.540 about for the last hundred minutes?

00:40:09.300 I really, I didn't know what to say to him other than if anybody's going to beat it, you

00:40:18.920 are, because he was convinced he was going to beat it every time I spoke to him.

00:40:25.740 He left behind a wife and daughter, just fantastic people.

00:40:45.100 But he also left behind a lot of friends and amazing work.

00:40:53.420 Now, when he died, a lot of us who were fans thought, oh, this character cannot stop.

00:41:00.320 They just made the first Vince Flynn movie, uh, American assassin, and it opens this weekend.

00:41:09.400 I saw it and it's absolutely fantastic, but there's the, the series has continued with

00:41:15.820 the guy named Kyle Mills, who, uh, was selected.

00:41:19.980 Imagine, you know, you're the, you're the replacement in the Beatles for Paul McCartney or John Lennon.

00:41:24.760 Uh, and Kyle Mills stepped to the plate and there's a new Vince Flynn novel out, uh, enemy

00:41:31.540 of the state.

00:41:32.740 Welcome to the program.

00:41:33.520 Kyle, how are you?

00:41:34.880 I'm good.

00:41:35.540 Thank you.

00:41:36.500 Uh, some big shoes.

00:41:38.040 And we've talked about this before, some big shoes, uh, that you have to, uh, fill and

00:41:42.600 you've done a fantastic job on it.

00:41:45.060 Tell me about the new book enemy of the state.

00:41:47.120 Well, this one, uh, is about the Saudi Arabia and kind of puts forth whether or not, uh,

00:41:55.980 maybe they had more to do with 9-11 than the government's let on.

00:42:00.960 And that, uh, those redacted pages have a lot of information in them that's been kept

00:42:07.380 from the American people, uh, and they're not living up to their agreements to back off

00:42:13.480 of the financing and supporting of terrorism.

00:42:16.040 Well, that sounds like total fiction.

00:42:18.160 We know, we, we know that none of that is true.

00:42:21.720 What are you, what are you basing this on, uh, Kyle, other than those redacted pages?

00:42:26.240 Did you, I mean, cause I, I, I love, I love fiction writers because they, they have to be

00:42:32.620 accurate.

00:42:33.420 You just have to have more information than, uh, than you ever let on.

00:42:37.840 What do you, what do you have or what have you seen that led you down this path?

00:42:42.000 Well, those pages have always kind of fascinated me and all the other things swirling around

00:42:47.680 about it that it has never been clear.

00:42:50.800 Uh, no one's ever said, well, this is exactly what happened through the investigations and

00:42:57.660 we've completely cleared these people.

00:43:00.440 And I think there's a lot of incentive for the United States because of its strategic interests.

00:43:06.120 Uh, and it's, uh, this has always been the case with Saudi Arabia that we, it seems like

00:43:10.240 we'll sort of, you know, turn a blind eye to just about anything they do.

00:43:15.140 And so that was kind of what I wanted to play with.

00:43:17.900 And also because if you've read Vince's books and obviously you've talked to him quite a

00:43:21.440 bit, he and I sort of share a distaste for the, uh, Saudis.

00:43:25.620 So I thought it'd be fun to explore that a little bit.

00:43:28.520 Yeah.

00:43:28.780 Yeah.

00:43:29.240 Your dad, if I'm not mistaken, wasn't your dad, uh, one of the investigators on the Lockerbie,

00:43:35.140 uh, bombing on, on Pan Am 103.

00:43:39.100 Yeah.

00:43:40.220 He, uh, that happened actually when I was, uh, uh, graduating from college and we found

00:43:47.420 out about it at my college graduation dinner.

00:43:50.200 Uh, and then he disappeared to Lockerbie and, uh, I didn't see him for a few months after

00:43:55.440 that.

00:43:57.120 How much did that affect your life?

00:43:59.320 Having your dad being surrounded by military guys and having your dad do that?

00:44:03.260 How much, how much of, how much of your life do you think is a continuation of your dad?

00:44:09.100 Have we lost, did we lose him?

00:44:15.120 I'm not, we lost him.

00:44:16.760 Sounds like we did.

00:44:17.400 Do you want to ask me that question or you want to ask me something?

00:44:20.220 No.

00:44:20.600 I can answer some interesting stuff too.

00:44:22.000 I'm a pretty interesting guy.

00:44:22.960 No.

00:44:23.440 Have you ever thought of that though?

00:44:25.000 How much of your life is a rerun of your dad's?

00:44:27.740 I know you have.

00:44:28.480 This is something you've dealt with for a long time.

00:44:30.220 Yeah.

00:44:30.320 I don't think I have.

00:44:31.420 I, you know.

00:44:31.940 Nobody else.

00:44:32.600 Is it just me that does that?

00:44:34.120 You're.

00:44:34.820 I mean, I know I overanalyze everything, but I, I, I, I've been thinking,

00:44:39.080 I've been thinking about it a lot lately.

00:44:41.180 I've been thinking about it a lot lately on how much, how much am I like my dad?

00:44:47.620 What is, how much is a rerun of my dad's life and a continuation of his goals?

00:44:54.820 It's, it's an interesting question.

00:44:56.420 I don't know how in the middle of a really cool action thriller movie release interview,

00:45:00.480 you got there.

00:45:01.940 Exactly.

00:45:02.300 Well, because I think it's interesting that he's writing this stuff now and his dad was,

00:45:07.720 you know, his dad was on the investigation of the Lockerbie bombing.

00:45:11.300 So, um, Kyle, I didn't mean to offend you if you, if, if I offended you with that question,

00:45:15.820 but have you thought about that on how much of your dad's, how much of your life is a continuation

00:45:21.820 of, in some ways, your dad's work?

00:45:24.560 A lot of it that, that, uh, I think that incident really affected me hearing about the reality

00:45:31.820 of what was going on on the ground there.

00:45:33.860 Uh, you know, it's funny because Mitch Rapp, the character, uh, starts down his path with

00:45:39.180 the, in the CIA, uh, because his, his girlfriend died on that.

00:45:43.580 Right.

00:45:43.800 And I mean, hearing the stories of that, I mean, it, it was such a horrific event, you

00:45:51.200 know, people would call my father and, and say that there are two kids sitting in a, in

00:45:57.540 their seats in my backyard and they're sitting there holding hands and I really need you

00:46:03.120 to come and get them now.

00:46:04.560 And he had no manpower at that point.

00:46:06.860 They were just flying people in and he'd have to say, you know, you, you're going to have

00:46:10.680 to wait, uh, just close your drapes.

00:46:13.300 And we're going to be there as soon as we can.

00:46:15.560 And I mean, I, in a way it had kind of a similar effect on me as it did the character,

00:46:20.160 uh, understanding what that threat is and how great it is.

00:46:25.020 Except Mitch, Mitch went on to kill a whole bunch of people and, and you started writing

00:46:30.440 books.

00:46:31.340 You know, and that's a lot easier.

00:46:33.500 It is, isn't it?

00:46:35.000 Yeah, you do that on Saturday morning in your underpants, uh, in your kitchen, uh, where,

00:46:39.780 you know, where, where Mitch isn't, uh, isn't, uh, isn't, uh,

00:46:43.300 isn't doing that.

00:46:44.460 Um, when we talk about nine 11, which this, uh, book is based on Saudi Arabia and everything

00:46:50.600 that's going on, um, it's the new Vince Flynn book, enemy of the state.

00:46:54.660 Um, Kyle Mills is the author and he's with us now.

00:46:57.100 When we look at that, do you think we're ever going to find out in, in our lifetime, will

00:47:03.040 we find out what the real involvement was with Saudi Arabia?

00:47:07.900 I don't think so.

00:47:09.440 I think there's such a strong strategic interest in financial interest, uh, between us and

00:47:15.800 Saudi Arabia that everything like that gets buried.

00:47:19.200 Um, but I mean, it's clear, it's obvious that they're huge financers of, uh, of terrorism

00:47:26.660 and, and, uh, really of creating the schools that put forward that philosophy.

00:47:33.800 The American assassin, um, talks about a nuclear weapon being used and it was, I just saw this,

00:47:40.240 uh, what, two days ago, a great movie, great story.

00:47:43.580 Um, uh, but you see nuclear weapons in play and in action.

00:47:49.360 That's something that really, we haven't really dealt with, uh, since I was a kid.

00:47:55.560 Do you think this is something with, as you're playing this out with Kim Jong-un, uh, is this

00:48:01.420 something that we're going to have to start really dealing with?

00:48:04.780 Do you think we'll see this play out?

00:48:07.380 It's, you know, it's such a terrifying situation because it's, it's almost less about

00:48:12.840 Korea than it is about China.

00:48:15.400 They created this problem.

00:48:17.440 They refuse to do anything about the problem and then they prevent other people from doing

00:48:22.040 something about that problem.

00:48:23.860 And so it just gets worse and I, it's on that trajectory and yes, I think at some point

00:48:29.800 it will happen.

00:48:30.320 So Kyle, what, so what happens?

00:48:31.960 What, what should we be doing right now in, in North Korea?

00:48:36.880 I, I think you have to convince China to rein them in.

00:48:42.320 I, I just, I don't see how there's any path to us acting unilaterally or with, uh, a Western

00:48:50.740 coalition.

00:48:51.740 Do you, Korea, do you believe we go to war with North Korea?

00:48:55.460 Do you believe that's in the cards?

00:48:57.480 No, no.

00:48:59.020 I just don't think it's possible.

00:49:00.140 I think China would come down on us and we've been there before.

00:49:04.220 I am thrilled to hear that.

00:49:05.380 Uh, the name of the book is enemy of the state by Kyle mills.

00:49:09.600 The new Vince Flynn, uh, book is out and the new Vince Flynn movie, uh, American assassin

00:49:15.260 comes out.

00:49:16.180 Have you seen it yet, Kyle?

00:49:17.680 I have.

00:49:18.380 What'd you think?

00:49:19.640 I thought it was terrific.

00:49:21.340 Uh, I absolutely loved it.

00:49:22.920 I thought Dylan and Michael Keaton did an amazing job.

00:49:25.660 Uh, you know, I, those characters are in my head eight hours a day and it's exactly what

00:49:30.960 I pictured.

00:49:32.320 I agree with you.

00:49:33.200 And I think it's a, it's a new kind of character.

00:49:35.160 I mean, it makes Jason Bourne seem like, and it was written in the cold war.

00:49:39.240 Uh, this is a whole new kind of approach to a character and I love it.

00:49:42.720 Thanks so much, Kyle.

00:49:44.000 Thanks.

00:49:45.160 It's Kyle mills, Vince Flynn's new book, enemy of the state, a Mitch rap novel and the

00:49:51.540 new Mitch rap movie opens this weekend everywhere.

00:49:55.660 Thanks so much for listening.

00:50:06.220 My name is Glenn Beck.

00:50:08.160 Stuber gear is our executive producer on the program and, uh, here with, uh, some cleanup

00:50:13.360 on some stuff.

00:50:14.020 First of all, the movie opens next weekend, not, uh, this weekend.

00:50:18.040 If you're a fan of Mitch rap and the books out now movie next week.

00:50:21.560 Yeah.

00:50:21.720 Um, and then, uh, and we should, we should also, uh, uh, discuss the poll numbers for

00:50:27.940 the president.

00:50:29.280 Um, he's doing better.

00:50:31.060 Is he not?

00:50:32.140 Yeah.

00:50:32.280 His, his approval rating is ticked up a little bit.

00:50:34.200 Um, but his handling of Harvey, pretty positive response to it.

00:50:38.540 I think he's done a good job.

00:50:39.520 Seems like it.

00:50:40.180 Right.

00:50:40.460 I mean, sometimes you don't know what these things until later, but I mean, initial reaction

00:50:44.620 is pretty positive.

00:50:45.420 51%, um, approve of the government's handling of Harvey while 16% disapprove.

00:50:51.640 Um, now what would you disapprove on?

00:50:54.380 What do I, what do I, what do I, what do I, well, there's always somebody who's, I know,

00:50:57.540 there's 16, but I mean, what, what, what is their main complaint?

00:51:00.920 Uh, maybe there, ah, we probably, uh, I know we planted the seeds for this hurricane to

00:51:07.820 hit and it shouldn't have hit Texas should have hit some other state.

00:51:12.380 Oh, you mean our weather machine?

00:51:13.580 Our weather machine is broken.

00:51:15.140 Uh, our hurricane creation machine is a bit of a problem right now.

00:51:19.140 If you remember, we created it initially to kill black people in new Orleans.

00:51:23.680 Right.

00:51:24.200 And, uh, I forgot that that was actually something people said.

00:51:27.680 I'm sorry.

00:51:28.160 I forgot.

00:51:28.480 Yeah, you were mocking, that was a real thing.

00:51:30.900 I was making something up and then I, yeah, thanks for reminding me that this is the nightmare

00:51:34.720 we actually all live in now.

00:51:36.160 Uh, 42% approve of Trump's efforts, 24% disapprove.

00:51:40.420 So Trump's a little bit more negative than the government overall, but I mean, he's really

00:51:43.540 obviously leading that effort along with FEMA.

00:51:45.680 Um, by the way, we're, this is going to be interesting to watch, um, because, uh, Florida

00:51:50.280 is not Texas, obviously.

00:51:52.280 Uh, and, um, this could be really bad in Florida.

00:51:56.760 Hopefully not, but we've, you know, we've, we've known this was coming and they're already

00:52:02.580 out of gas in many of the gas stations as people are exiting and trying to get away from

00:52:08.020 Miami.

00:52:09.040 Uh, that's something that, you know, hopefully we're working on to get people gas.

00:52:13.080 There's nothing worse than, you know, Hey, I'm evacuating and I can't go anywhere.

00:52:17.320 Yeah.

00:52:17.460 Now I'm stuck on the highway.

00:52:18.500 One of the last hurricane that hit Houston, that's what happened.

00:52:21.500 They had everyone evacuate and they got out in the middle of the road, ran out of gas

00:52:25.080 and people died.

00:52:26.080 More people died from the evacuation than they did the actual hurricane.

00:52:29.960 So that would be something that maybe the president should, should work on.

00:52:32.800 And, and, uh, and, uh, those in Washington should be working on getting gas so people

00:52:38.200 can actually evacuate and get out.

00:52:40.460 The good thing is there's not a lot going on in the world.

00:52:42.840 Like there's nothing, there's not a lot of threats currently, uh, no, there's North

00:52:47.060 Korea and nuclear missiles.

00:52:48.900 Uh, there's now a third hurricane that has developed hurricane Jose.

00:52:54.680 Uh, and, uh, you know, and then of course, you know, the whole economic collapse things,

00:52:59.180 but it's a good one.

00:52:59.840 It's a good day when you can take one off the board.

00:53:01.900 Okay.

00:53:02.140 When you have a big problem and we can just take it off the board.

00:53:05.300 Yeah.

00:53:05.600 Well, we think so.

00:53:06.440 All right.

00:53:06.700 What is it?

00:53:07.320 Scientists think they think they've come up with a plan.

00:53:11.580 Yeah.

00:53:11.840 That will save the planet from the super volcano under Yellowstone park.

00:53:17.060 Who knew?

00:53:18.380 You didn't know about the super volcano?

00:53:19.640 We were all going to die.

00:53:21.040 Oh, now.

00:53:21.900 No, I knew about the super volcano.

00:53:23.700 Obviously it's been on top of our list.

00:53:25.420 Yeah.

00:53:25.640 But now they think they've come up with a solution to solve that.

00:53:29.520 How did, how do they, how are they going to solve that?

00:53:31.540 They, what they're going to try to do is, uh, cool, cool the magma.

00:53:37.880 Oh my gosh.

00:53:39.360 Just cool it.

00:53:40.240 Right.

00:53:40.760 How?

00:53:41.080 Wow.

00:53:41.520 Is it shipping ice to it?

00:53:43.080 Well, they're going to siphon heat until it becomes too cold, cool to erupt.

00:53:48.680 Ah.

00:53:49.060 And then they're going to turn that heat into green energy.

00:53:53.480 So I think we're all set.

00:53:55.200 Oh my gosh.

00:53:55.800 We've solved, we've taken more than one problem off the chart.

00:53:59.300 You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.

00:54:18.900 So can I ask you a question?

00:54:20.100 If you are, if you're living in a path of a hurricane, as I'm looking at the, you know,

00:54:27.280 the video of people trying to leave, you know, Hollywood, Florida and Miami, and they're just

00:54:33.840 stuck in these lines that aren't going anywhere.

00:54:36.380 Uh, and then they're running out of gas and there's no gas along those evacuation routes.

00:54:41.340 Do you not just look at this and go, you know what?

00:54:43.360 I'm just saying.

00:54:43.780 I mean, the, I was talking to a guy cause I can't take the tornadoes here.

00:54:49.000 It just drives me nuts.

00:54:50.220 I don't know why every house in Texas does not have a tornado shelter, but maybe it says,

00:54:55.060 you know, real Texas are like tornadoes or nothing, but they freak people out from the

00:54:59.840 North.

00:55:00.180 And, uh, so I was talking to a guy who does shelters and he said, whatever you do, do not

00:55:08.020 put the shelter outside, make sure the shelter is inside the house.

00:55:13.380 And I'm like, well, I don't even where, what are you talking about?

00:55:18.640 Well, put it in the garage.

00:55:20.040 Well, then where do I put my car?

00:55:22.420 Well, I don't know, but you don't want your hurricane shelter outside.

00:55:25.140 Why?

00:55:26.720 Because here's what happens.

00:55:28.060 And I can see this.

00:55:30.940 You're going through a hurricane or you're going through a, uh, a tornado and the, the

00:55:35.620 tornado warnings go off.

00:55:37.300 We do right now, all the kids come down and they, they climb into bed.

00:55:42.600 I get up, make sure that we can crawl, you know, get underneath the house if we have to.

00:55:48.460 Um, but everybody just crawls into bed and then we just watch the, you know, the TV or

00:55:54.140 the phone and we're watching where they're, they're landing.

00:55:57.500 Hoping that we're not going to be sucked up into it.

00:56:02.300 What he said was people build their, their shelters outside of the, uh, of the house.

00:56:08.160 And then when it happens in the middle of the night, you're like, I'm not going to go sit

00:56:12.380 out there.

00:56:13.380 It's hot.

00:56:14.320 It's, I'm going to get all wet.

00:56:15.860 I'm going to have to change to my clothes to get out there.

00:56:18.700 And then you go, you do it a couple of times and then nothing happens.

00:56:22.200 And then you're like, I'm not going to get out.

00:56:24.040 It's two o'clock in the morning.

00:56:25.000 Nothing's going to happen.

00:56:26.120 So you don't even get into the shelter at all.

00:56:28.240 You know what I mean?

00:56:28.780 Oh, totally.

00:56:29.760 And so then you're sucked up in the house with the, with the shelter outside.

00:56:34.120 Cause you didn't want to go outside and get wet.

00:56:36.940 And especially if you have a family, well, this is the kind of stuff that makes, if I

00:56:41.560 were in Florida today, I would see all these lines and no one getting gas.

00:56:45.880 And I'd be like, honey, we're not going to make you rather sit in line and run out of

00:56:50.500 gas.

00:56:50.800 And then when the flooding comes in, we're there with the, the sea of humanity on the

00:56:57.760 highway with a car that won't go anywhere.

00:57:00.320 Yeah.

00:57:00.620 It's a legitimate problem.

00:57:01.720 I think a lot of, they, a lot of these places have shelters where they're actually having

00:57:06.060 protected areas where people can go that are local and can't get out because at some

00:57:09.580 point, this is what happened with Houston.

00:57:11.020 They said, look, we can recommend an evacuation, but it could cause more problems than it's

00:57:15.760 resolves.

00:57:16.680 And so people wound up having to make do with what was around them.

00:57:20.080 And that's why when these things come in and they're getting to that point where they

00:57:23.520 can really tell where these things are going within four or five days pretty well.

00:57:29.200 And if you see something like this barreling down in your state, you don't leave two days

00:57:32.800 before you leave five days before.

00:57:34.220 Yeah.

00:57:34.540 It's really the only chance you have.

00:57:36.120 But are you, I mean, how many people can say I'm leaving my job five days in advance?

00:57:40.680 I know it's hard, but I mean, there is another idea.

00:57:44.400 Uh, I hate to say it, don't live by the coast.

00:57:49.340 Yeah.

00:57:49.800 I mean, here's the real problem is the hurricanes are not getting stronger or anything else.

00:57:54.360 We're just living by the coast more.

00:57:56.920 It's true.

00:57:57.560 I mean, when they talk about the damages from hurricanes, there's a lot of big damaging

00:58:01.000 hurricanes in recent memory.

00:58:02.520 And the reason for that, you know, people with the global warming side of it will say,

00:58:05.480 well, it's getting warmer and they're getting more damaging.

00:58:07.160 Well, what's happened is we decided to build giant skyscrapers three feet from the beach.

00:58:11.600 Uh, and so you, you, what you're getting, you're getting really expensive, brand new

00:58:15.780 buildings, very close to the coast with a large population centers getting larger and

00:58:21.060 larger.

00:58:21.640 People obviously are not listening to Al Gore, including by the way, people like Al Gore who

00:58:25.860 build homes near the coast.

00:58:27.220 Um, but you know, it, it's, that pitch has not been successful and I don't think it should

00:58:34.920 be successful for that reason, but people used to realize, I mean, this is what happened

00:58:38.920 with the, with the old days in there, with the hurricane where 1920s, where it wiped out

00:58:43.340 Miami and people just stopped moving and they just wanted to move away.

00:58:46.620 They didn't publicize that hurricane in the twenties because Miami was afraid no one would

00:58:52.020 come.

00:58:52.340 Well, let me give you, there's, there's two of them.

00:58:54.660 There's 1926 Miami hurricane, 200,000 people were living right in the path.

00:59:00.420 Most of them for, from the North, they were lured there by the, you know, easy money and

00:59:04.860 the land boom.

00:59:05.720 Hey, you got to buy something in Florida.

00:59:07.400 Everybody's going to move.

00:59:08.440 All of New York one day is in a, I got to move to Florida quick, buy some land.

00:59:13.600 So people went down, they bought land.

00:59:15.380 Most of them never even heard of a hurricane before they had never been in one.

00:59:19.700 So the first one in 26, there were no radios really.

00:59:23.860 There was only one radio station in all of Florida.

00:59:26.480 So people didn't know what was going on.

00:59:29.080 They saw this, they battened down for this big storm.

00:59:32.860 A lot of them survive until the eye hits.

00:59:38.080 And because they didn't understand what a hurricane was, the eye comes in, they all get out and

00:59:43.660 they're like, Oh my gosh, it's all over.

00:59:45.320 This is great.

00:59:46.100 Most of the people died on the second half, the return of the eye of the return of the

00:59:52.900 hurricane on the, after the eye, because they were all out.

00:59:55.960 They had, you know, they had stopped hunkering down and now all the debris and everything

01:00:00.920 was swept up.

01:00:02.100 And that's where most people died.

01:00:04.000 Now that was in 26.

01:00:05.460 It was $164 billion in today's dollars, which is, would be bigger than Katrina.

01:00:14.080 Okay.

01:00:14.700 Think of that.

01:00:15.720 Now that's 26 in 1928.

01:00:19.080 They had another one before landing in Florida.

01:00:22.800 It killed 1500 people in the Virgin islands, Puerto Rico and the Bahamas 1500.

01:00:28.540 It's the second deadliest hurricane in the U S behind, uh, the Galveston hurricane of 1900.

01:00:35.800 It's category five.

01:00:37.400 It hit right close to West Palm beach, 1700 homes, just blown off the face of the earth.

01:00:44.760 And a storm surge caused, uh, uh, Lake, uh, uh, Okeechobee to overflow.

01:00:51.180 And it put the surrounding areas, 15 feet underwater, 2,500 people.

01:00:58.540 They think it was closer to 3000, but we still don't know how many people died in that because

01:01:08.080 it was 1920, uh, 1928.

01:01:11.240 And this was, everybody knew if Florida goes down, the entire country is going to go down.

01:01:19.960 Florida went into a depression a year before the great depression because of this hurricane.

01:01:26.060 Uh, this, when this hurricane, uh, hit, it's called the forgotten storm because the politicians

01:01:33.280 tried to lower the numbers of the dead, tried to not publicize this storm because they knew,

01:01:42.460 as Stu said, tourism would come if, if people weren't afraid, but if people were afraid,

01:01:49.460 nobody was going to come to Florida.

01:01:51.800 So they were actually, they had so many bodies that the government came in and they just started

01:01:58.080 bonfires and they just started burning bodies in the streets and tried to keep that out of the press.

01:02:04.980 So, you know, summer came and Hey, come down to Florida and go to the beach.

01:02:09.900 Don't, well, no, it was just a big campfire.

01:02:12.060 We were making s'mores.

01:02:13.720 Don't worry.

01:02:14.520 Don't worry.

01:02:14.860 That was just a big campfire.

01:02:17.360 That's how, that's how much control the government had back then and how bad the communication

01:02:22.440 was.

01:02:24.220 Can you imagine that?

01:02:25.580 And, and being able to say, look, we got to keep this quiet.

01:02:28.400 Otherwise this is really going to hurt tourism.

01:02:30.520 By the way, um, everyone is going to the same website.

01:02:45.380 Everyone goes there every day.

01:02:46.420 Of course, the geophysical fluid dynamics laboratory, a site of the NOAA.

01:02:50.860 And that's, I mean, I think a lot of people are checking it out today.

01:02:54.380 Yeah.

01:02:54.460 I live there.

01:02:55.080 Um, not a lot of people apparently on the global warming side of the argument.

01:02:59.120 However, they seem to have forgotten this report that this, I will say it does come

01:03:03.620 back.

01:03:04.000 It's, we're talking August 30th, 2017.

01:03:07.720 Do you remember that era?

01:03:09.500 Like, it's hard to put myself in that mindset of August 30th, 2017.

01:03:12.920 No, that was a disco era, wasn't it?

01:03:14.040 Yeah, I think it was.

01:03:15.240 I think it was.

01:03:16.280 Yeah.

01:03:16.660 They have a, they released a report about global warming and hurricanes.

01:03:20.480 Uh, let me give you a couple of clips from it.

01:03:23.000 It is premature to conclude that human activities and particularly greenhouse gas emissions that

01:03:28.820 cause global warming have already had a detectable impact on Atlantic hurricane or global, global

01:03:36.080 tropical cyclone activity.

01:03:38.120 So they haven't even been able to detect that yet.

01:03:41.740 Now people will say, well, uh, I mean, maybe they will in the future and maybe they will.

01:03:47.540 Maybe they will.

01:03:48.880 That is not the standard set by Al Gore.

01:03:51.500 However, he put the, uh, hurricane on his poster for an inconvenient truth to tell us

01:03:57.180 the scientific consensus.

01:03:58.840 And the scientific consensus was, of course, as we all know, that, uh, we were screwed when

01:04:04.760 it came to hurricanes.

01:04:05.580 But listen to this in summary, neither are model projections for the 21st century, nor our

01:04:12.040 analysis of trends in Atlantic hurricane and tropical storms counts over the past 120

01:04:17.440 years support the notion that greenhouse gas induced warming leads to large increases in

01:04:24.160 either tropical storm or overhaul hurricane numbers in the Atlantic.

01:04:28.940 But that's just Noah saying that, right?

01:04:32.960 Yeah.

01:04:33.240 Well, I mean, it's just, and we all know there was no arc.

01:04:36.520 No, no, not, not that Noah.

01:04:38.120 No, you said it was Noah.

01:04:39.640 Yeah, I know, but we're just going to leave it at Noah because we know he didn't exist.

01:04:47.440 Yeah, as long as we can throw the Bible in there, then you could just, then you could

01:04:53.200 just dismiss it.

01:04:53.880 You don't even have to think about it.

01:04:55.340 Sure.

01:04:55.760 It was that Noah, not, not the other one that has, you know, real credibility with the left.

01:05:09.460 It's not that the world is upside down.

01:05:11.820 Uh, it's just the maps have been wrong.

01:05:14.340 And, uh, Dennis Rodman is our hero.

01:05:17.440 Uh, this is, I mean, this makes sense.

01:05:19.960 Dennis Rodman is, uh, is the guy who's going to come in and save us.

01:05:23.680 I don't know if you saw, he did an interview in, uh, England about Kim Jong-un and he is

01:05:31.380 the guy to send in.

01:05:33.620 Now that may sound, sound crazy, but once you listen to him, you realize, no, we need to

01:05:39.560 listen to him a little bit more.

01:05:41.160 You've spent a lot of time with Kim Jong-un.

01:05:44.200 Um, is he mad?

01:05:45.660 Is he stupid?

01:05:46.600 How would you describe him as a human being?

01:05:49.180 You know, it's, it's, it's amazing how we became such good friends with Russia all of

01:05:54.160 a sudden, uh, with Donald Trump.

01:05:55.760 And, uh, for years and years over the course of time, we became such a, uh, a good, uh,

01:06:02.100 have a great relationship with Russia all of a sudden in America.

01:06:05.120 But, uh, but, uh, for some reason with, uh, in our career, we have a, a big issue.

01:06:10.140 And, um, for me to go over there to see him as much as I have, I basically hang out with

01:06:15.620 him all the time.

01:06:16.280 He, we laugh, we sing karaoke.

01:06:18.380 We do a lot of cool things together.

01:06:20.040 Stop, stop.

01:06:20.840 I awesome so far.

01:06:22.080 I, I don't know if you could categorize doing karaoke as cool ever.

01:06:26.540 I mean, I just don't think so.

01:06:28.100 Yeah.

01:06:28.300 We do a lot of things, you know, two guys, two grown men, you know, we just hang out,

01:06:33.060 do karaoke.

01:06:33.840 I know.

01:06:34.460 I don't know.

01:06:35.300 Uh, wow.

01:06:35.700 You really have stopped drinking, haven't you?

01:06:37.580 Okay.

01:06:38.220 All right.

01:06:38.840 It's now confirmed.

01:06:40.060 I have, uh, no, I don't think that's, uh, that's cool.

01:06:43.420 And, you know, Hey, we just hang out, you know, we play karaoke and, you know, we don't

01:06:47.880 talk politics, you know, or the, um, hundreds of thousands of people that he's got starving

01:06:53.400 in concentration camps.

01:06:55.020 Um, you know, we just hang out and talk about the important things, you know, like it's not

01:06:58.380 really an uplifting conversation.

01:06:59.900 No.

01:07:00.460 The whole concentration camp.

01:07:01.780 No, but maybe it is something that you, you might want to bring up.

01:07:05.920 We ride horses.

01:07:07.360 We hang out, we go skiing, and, uh, we hardly ever talk politics.

01:07:11.360 And that's the good thing about that.

01:07:13.020 Yeah.

01:07:13.320 To me, I think if, if, um, if the president even tries to reach out for Kim, I think it

01:07:21.000 would be a great possibility things can happen.

01:07:24.480 If Donald Trump, they can sit down and have some type of mutual conversation.

01:07:29.660 It don't have to be like a friendship conversation, just a mutual conversation saying, hi, uh, I

01:07:35.500 would love to, you know, engage in some, in some words in politics and over the history

01:07:40.540 of, of your country and my country and just try to start some dialogue.

01:07:44.420 I think that, uh, that'll open up and maybe, uh, you know, the door just a little bit.

01:07:48.720 Yeah.

01:07:49.760 Yeah.

01:07:50.240 Cause we, uh, you know, there's, we, I want to hear a little history of, you know, our

01:07:54.120 country and your country and, uh, uh, the lack of concentration camps in our country and

01:08:01.020 the, uh, the reliance on the concentration camps in your country, the plethora of

01:08:05.980 concentration camps.

01:08:06.840 I just think that, I don't know why, maybe it's just me, but the whole concentration

01:08:10.680 camp thing seems important.

01:08:14.720 It does.

01:08:15.540 Although I don't think that's the problem here.

01:08:17.180 Honestly, the problem here is fundamentally they want to remain a nuclear power and we

01:08:23.720 are saying we don't want them to be nuclear power.

01:08:25.640 And if you can't bridge that gap, and this is what, by the way, Russia and China are

01:08:30.120 arguing, just recognize that our nuclear power, it's over their nuclear power.

01:08:34.200 Go ahead.

01:08:34.600 Yeah.

01:08:34.680 But you know, we have, we didn't have this, uh, problem with, uh, you know, with India

01:08:38.880 and even Pakistan.

01:08:39.940 I don't know about you.

01:08:41.040 I've never really been entirely comfortable with Pakistan having nuclear weapons.

01:08:45.600 No, I wouldn't say I am.

01:08:47.340 Yeah.

01:08:47.800 Yeah.

01:08:48.140 However, they have them and we've accepted them.

01:08:50.600 Correct.

01:08:50.740 So because we've accepted them, we've have been able to talk to them.

01:08:53.180 And we're going to have to accept them having them, uh, because it's too late to do anything

01:08:58.380 about it.

01:08:59.800 They already have them.

01:09:01.480 So I guess we are going to have to live with it, but I'm not entirely comfortable with a

01:09:07.760 guy who, and again, maybe I'm focusing too much on the concentration campsite.

01:09:14.100 Maybe it's just me that sticks out.

01:09:17.000 That sticks out.

01:09:17.980 Mercury.

01:09:23.180 Love.

01:09:26.400 Courage.

01:09:27.820 Truth.

01:09:28.300 This is one of those moments.

01:09:30.540 The standoff between North Korea and the United States is approaching an end game.

01:09:36.300 Change on a level not seen since World War II could be taking place very, very soon.

01:09:42.940 A vehicle of this change comes in the form of a UN draft resolution.

01:09:48.040 It was shown to the media yesterday.

01:09:51.460 A lot of people aren't talking about it, but it's really important.

01:09:55.120 The United States is seeking an oil embargo.

01:09:58.300 And regardless of whether this resolution passes or fails, the conflict now with North Korea

01:10:03.480 is reaching an inflection point.

01:10:06.940 But let's say for a minute, the embargo passes.

01:10:10.120 This would mark the beginning of the end for diplomacy.

01:10:16.340 And here's why.

01:10:17.900 Japan saw an oil embargo as an act of war during World War II.

01:10:23.380 It is what led to them launching against Pearl Harbor.

01:10:28.720 Kim Jong-un is either going to be forced to the negotiating table, or he's going to see it as the Japanese did,

01:10:34.280 as an act of war.

01:10:35.580 And if war occurs, it will be catastrophic on both sides.

01:10:41.040 Carnage not measured in hundreds and thousands, but hundreds of thousands.

01:10:48.600 China and Russia already have made statements hinting that they will veto the resolution.

01:10:54.840 And without the help of both countries, we're staring at very hard and cold truths that none of us want to face.

01:11:03.700 And that is, North Korea is now a nuclear-armed nation, and the world is stuck with accepting it.

01:11:11.100 Or we go it alone.

01:11:14.460 Now think of the dominoes that might fall if that happens.

01:11:18.720 Would Kim Jong-un take his newly acquired nuclear deterrence out for a test drive?

01:11:23.680 If this happens, U.S. security guarantees in place since World War II.

01:11:33.560 All of those guarantees would be worthless.

01:11:37.740 Japan would need to rearm.

01:11:40.420 The Philippines would most likely return to China.

01:11:44.320 History is full of watershed moments, and it is the moments in between those watershed moments that make up most people's lives.

01:11:54.300 We have been living in those moments between.

01:11:58.280 But it is those moments that flip everything upside down and inside out and send the world hurling in a new and different direction.

01:12:10.640 We're living right now in one of those moments.

01:12:16.460 Thursday, September 7th.

01:12:25.180 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

01:12:27.500 Managing editor of TheBlaze.com, Leon Wolf.

01:12:32.000 Hello, Leon.

01:12:33.760 How are you?

01:12:34.420 I'm doing great.

01:12:35.060 Thanks for having me on, Glenn.

01:12:35.860 Yeah, good.

01:12:36.400 It's good to have you here.

01:12:37.620 You're in town for really a couple of weeks.

01:12:40.080 We're making some pretty profound changes at The Blaze.

01:12:44.460 Would you characterize that?

01:12:46.060 I would agree.

01:12:46.680 I would agree.

01:12:47.340 Definitely.

01:12:47.980 Leon and I have been working hand-in-hand and close for a while over the summer trying to figure out.

01:12:54.480 We know what the problem is, and the problem is that people, A, want to read what reinforces their opinion.

01:13:04.340 They read the clickbait.

01:13:06.720 They read the dramatic headlines.

01:13:08.840 And then when you actually get to any meat, people don't read that.

01:13:13.560 If you're anything like me, you'll see a long story that has meat, and you'll click on it, and you'll save it.

01:13:18.700 And you put it in a folder, and you go, I got to come back to that.

01:13:21.140 And then you never do.

01:13:22.860 And then you end up deleting, or like I do, just stop looking at that folder because then I start to feel guilty about all the things that I didn't read.

01:13:30.040 And so it's really hard.

01:13:31.320 How do we find ways to get the news to people and have them actually consume it and share it without causing more chaos?

01:13:43.660 Yeah.

01:13:44.220 That's hard.

01:13:45.300 Yeah, it's difficult.

01:13:46.400 You know, we're making a bet, you know, as you know, Glenn, that people are getting tired of, you know, the way that the media is kind of responding to a lot of the market initiatives, right?

01:13:57.300 I mean, if you look at even, so CNN has been biased for years.

01:14:02.120 But if you look at the way they've been since Trump took office.

01:14:05.540 New records are being set.

01:14:06.700 Yes, every day.

01:14:07.720 It's really something else.

01:14:09.740 They have completely fallen into the trap of, hey, listen, we're going to give the hashtag resistance people what they want.

01:14:16.940 That's, they're absolutely gone down the path of MSNBC, not across the board.

01:14:22.080 Yeah, with some exceptions.

01:14:23.060 With some exceptions.

01:14:23.660 But for the most part, they're like, hey, man, we can be MSNBC too, you know?

01:14:27.300 Um, the bet is that there's a lot of people out there who are kind of tired of both kind of competing visions of we're just going to give you the news that already confirms that you believe in.

01:14:39.160 And with as much anger in our tone as we can possibly muster.

01:14:42.780 Don't you think, well, there's nobody doing it yet.

01:14:44.760 Um, but don't you think that, um, you know, I was talking to, uh, I was talking to Dana, uh, last night we were talking about the state of the media, uh, you know, off air and, um, and, you know, I said, Dana, look at the, look at the numbers of, of Fox.

01:15:01.720 But then look at the numbers of MSNBC, because while they're dominating right now, they're about half the size of what Bill O'Reilly was.

01:15:12.460 Right.

01:15:13.040 You know, so while they may be, they may have seemingly grown, they really haven't.

01:15:18.340 Those outrageous numbers are actually very small in comparison to what used to be number one.

01:15:24.080 And people are, they're tired.

01:15:25.680 I think they're tired of it on both sides.

01:15:27.580 I think they don't want anything to do with it.

01:15:29.380 Yeah.

01:15:29.800 So, so the challenge then is to, is to how to package meaningful stuff into a way that, you know, kind of self-selects for, you know, people, you know, not everybody has the same set of interests.

01:15:40.000 Everybody is kind of moving, you know, quickly from one thing to the next.

01:15:43.460 And they want to be able to kind of select what's of interest to them and deep dive into that stuff instead of kind of being force fed, you know, here's 1100 words on something you might or might not care about.

01:15:53.580 So that's, we're kind of, you know, working on a way to provide stuff that is easily digestible for folks on one hand.

01:16:02.360 But on the other hand, if you, if you look at the easily digestible part of it and you say, my gosh, this is interesting.

01:16:07.960 I want to read more.

01:16:09.100 You can drill down and find more really good kind of intelligent stuff about that.

01:16:12.560 And also trying to separate the, the opinion from fact because people don't even know, you know, when the president gave a historic speech yesterday, that's editorial.

01:16:23.120 Right.

01:16:24.080 They're still adding the word historic is editorial.

01:16:27.240 Here's what is a fact.

01:16:28.480 The president gave a speech.

01:16:30.540 Now, in the opinion part, I can say, here's why I think it's historic because this has never been done for good or for, for ill.

01:16:40.280 That's what makes it historic.

01:16:41.980 Well, technically, anything that happened in the past is historic.

01:16:45.560 So that's, I don't know if that is.

01:16:47.840 See, this is, we need him on the team.

01:16:49.780 Don't you think?

01:16:50.680 Very helpful.

01:16:51.680 Yeah.

01:16:51.960 No, he's very helpful.

01:16:52.900 Thank you for the pen entry there, Stu.

01:16:55.040 Yeah, I appreciate that.

01:16:55.780 Very good.

01:16:56.080 You should teach philosophy.

01:16:57.820 That's what you should do.

01:16:58.840 Thank you.

01:16:59.140 So, Leon, let's, help me find perspective on, on this story.

01:17:05.260 Help me find the perspective on what happened yesterday with Donald Trump.

01:17:10.300 Okay, like what specifically with the, with the Democrats making the deal with the Democrats.

01:17:15.400 Yeah, no, it's, I saw, I saw a tweet on this that I thought was interesting that the belief is that Donald Trump has gained the insight that he has a certain number of people who are with him no matter what.

01:17:29.780 And he can increase his popularity by working with Democrats, just giving the Democrats whatever they want, and his core people are going to stay with him pretty much no matter what he does, which is an interesting gamble.

01:17:39.900 It is an interesting gamble.

01:17:41.060 And I've said a number of times, if you look at.

01:17:43.140 We did talk to some people today that would pretty much bear that out as fruit.

01:17:48.080 We talked to a guy who, who, there's no way he was saying, oh, no, you know, DACA is fine.

01:17:54.180 We got to do what we got to do for the dreamers.

01:17:56.240 There's no way he was saying that during the election.

01:17:58.300 Yeah, but he was saying that today.

01:18:00.720 And, you know, I'm just, you know, it's the GOP that's the problem.

01:18:04.420 I mean, the Lou Dobbs thing from last night was a perfect example of this.

01:18:08.320 If you, I don't know if you happen to hear that, Leon, but I mean, it was, it was an amazing feat of mental gymnastics.

01:18:14.740 So let's say that Trump was helping his side of the argument.

01:18:18.500 So let's come back to that, but it's a specifically the Lou Dobbs thing here in a second.

01:18:22.960 But so, so continue on with your perspective on, okay, you got the people that are going

01:18:29.160 to probably follow him no matter what.

01:18:31.380 Yeah.

01:18:31.660 Well, I think, I think that what, I think that what Trump might not fully understand yet,

01:18:36.840 because he is new to politics and I always try to kind of give him credit for that, you

01:18:41.620 know, wherever I can, is that the legislative calendar is, is working against him in a big

01:18:46.720 time way right now.

01:18:47.560 And what he gave the Democrats was basically two weeks in December that he can't afford

01:18:52.320 to lose.

01:18:52.840 If we assume that he continues to want to pass items on his agenda, like tax reform, funding

01:18:57.680 the wall, those kinds of things.

01:19:01.220 He, Congress is so far behind the ball right now in terms of getting this stuff passed.

01:19:06.780 They're talking about this big tax reform package right now that they, they know they're going

01:19:10.600 to have to pass through reconciliation because there are not 60 votes for the, for the plan.

01:19:13.720 So they know they're going to have to pass it through reconciliation.

01:19:15.620 What nobody's talking about right now, or very few people are talking about right now

01:19:19.780 is that you can't pass a bill through the Senate under reconciliation until you have a, a budget

01:19:25.320 resolution passed, which they haven't even started on.

01:19:27.800 They haven't started working on.

01:19:28.900 And that's for, for those of us who followed politics for a long time, hammering out a budget

01:19:33.020 resolution takes time.

01:19:34.140 I mean, you have to get a lot of people on board.

01:19:37.100 And right now, Paul Ryan in the house does not have the votes on board.

01:19:40.420 I mean, I've talked to people from the freedom caucus.

01:19:42.080 They're like, we are so far apart on anything approaching a budget resolution.

01:19:44.920 That it's, we're weeks away from having like an introductory step for tax return, forget

01:19:49.480 funding the wall or whatever.

01:19:51.220 So whatever you think about McConnell and Ryan, and I'm not big fans of theirs.

01:19:54.640 I'm not, I'm not, I'm very, you know, skeptical about their leadership abilities.

01:19:58.460 You're so kind.

01:19:59.060 They know they're looking at their calendar and they know that a two week, they, they

01:20:02.180 had all these plans, like a best case scenario.

01:20:04.580 We can maybe get to tax reform this year.

01:20:06.520 We can maybe do some infrastructure spending.

01:20:08.220 And the reason they were so, we need to get, um, you know, the debt ceiling tacked onto

01:20:13.700 this relief bill and, or at least push it out six months was that they knew that agreeing

01:20:19.020 to three months just basically dropped a two week bomb into the middle of December on their

01:20:23.240 calendar that everybody's going to have to debate raising the debt ceiling again in December.

01:20:26.560 So the chances of any of this stuff being passed this year, I think, so why did he just went

01:20:30.800 out the window?

01:20:31.360 Somebody said to me, somebody said to me, uh, two hours ago, uh, you know what?

01:20:36.460 Trump is just, you know, remember he's a deal maker.

01:20:38.800 He just is seeing something that we're not seeing to me.

01:20:41.840 That sounds like, yeah, John Roberts.

01:20:44.020 Oh no, no, you don't understand.

01:20:45.880 He went with this because he's going to drop a bomb.

01:20:49.500 No, he didn't.

01:20:50.420 No, we have Obamacare.

01:20:52.580 So why do you think he made this deal?

01:20:55.220 You know, I, I think it was just, um, you know, kind of a short-term vision.

01:21:00.000 I mean, I think that he, I'd like to think that he's, he's not naive enough to believe

01:21:04.420 that when it comes to something that's important, like it's cost-free for the Democrats to give

01:21:08.240 him this, right?

01:21:09.220 Oh yeah, sure.

01:21:09.980 You know, we'll give you the relief funding.

01:21:11.400 We'll kick the debt ceiling can down the road with three, but that costs them nothing.

01:21:15.240 I hope that he doesn't believe that when he then comes to them and says, oh yeah, now let's

01:21:19.280 talk about cutting a deal on the border wall, that they're going to be cooperative in any way.

01:21:23.540 And I think that maybe he thinks that in the back of his mind, because that's maybe how

01:21:27.520 he's used to the business people he's used to dealing with will work.

01:21:30.660 But that's not how Chuck Schumer works.

01:21:32.780 That's not how Nancy Pelosi works.

01:21:34.240 I mean, we've seen it for years and years and years.

01:21:35.800 He'll take what he wants this time.

01:21:37.200 And next time he'll demand what he wants again.

01:21:39.080 Next time he'll say, hey guys, remember how we worked this deal out?

01:21:40.980 And they're going to be like, yeah, no, I'm not interested in this.

01:21:42.820 I don't know what you're talking about.

01:21:43.580 Yeah, exactly.

01:21:44.600 I mean, we've seen it for years and years.

01:21:46.040 So I don't know.

01:21:47.000 Wait until you hear Lou Dobbs.

01:21:48.700 We'll get to that here in a second.

01:21:49.820 So here is Lou Dobbs last night talking about.

01:22:12.300 Now, remember Lou Dobbs, when I was at CNN, he was on CNN and they deemed him a madman.

01:22:19.820 Because of the border.

01:22:21.880 All he cares about is the border.

01:22:25.340 At least that's the Lou that I was working with at CNN.

01:22:29.200 And yesterday, we didn't get anything done on the border.

01:22:34.140 And in fact, we probably hurt that cause with the border.

01:22:37.760 But here is Lou Dobbs.

01:22:39.140 A few thoughts now on the death of a rhino.

01:22:41.900 Nothing to lament here.

01:22:43.520 We're just examining politics in 2017.

01:22:47.100 I'm talking about Speaker Paul Ryan and his obsequious deference to corporate lobbyists,

01:22:52.880 his unbridled hostility toward President Trump.

01:22:57.180 The president not only took rhino Ryan to the woodshed, but eliminated any need for any Republican

01:23:03.440 to ever pretend again that Ryan is a real Republican in any way.

01:23:08.300 Or that any rhino has a political future after Mr. Trump simply booted the hapless fool of a speaker

01:23:14.940 out of the way of those trying to get the nation's business done.

01:23:19.620 Here's the clueless Ryan just this morning talking about a proposal tying Harvey funding

01:23:26.160 to an increase in the debt ceiling.

01:23:28.920 What the leaders you just described proposed is unworkable.

01:23:35.080 I think that's ridiculous and disgraceful that they want to play politics with the debt

01:23:38.780 ceiling at this moment.

01:23:39.940 I think that's a ridiculous idea.

01:23:41.660 I hope that they don't mean that.

01:23:43.740 They did mean that.

01:23:45.240 And it wasn't so ridiculous, it turns out, because within just a few hours, President Trump

01:23:49.940 reached a deal with the Democrats to raise the debt limit to fund the government until

01:23:54.340 mid-December while providing funds for Harvey relief.

01:23:59.400 Deal done.

01:24:00.240 President Trump also clearing the way for tax reform while he was at it.

01:24:04.220 Contrast Ryan's inane insults, his obstinance and subversion of President Trump to the behavior

01:24:11.200 and the rhetoric of Democratic leadership of late.

01:24:14.680 They've calmed themselves.

01:24:16.340 They've been far more conciliatory in their rhetoric over recent weeks.

01:24:20.740 And now Ryan is fully exposed to the nation.

01:24:23.640 Okay, stop.

01:24:24.660 He is?

01:24:27.160 I mean, I don't know who the good guy is here.

01:24:30.740 I don't know who the guy is, because I don't like Paul Ryan.

01:24:33.220 I do not like Paul Ryan, but that's not my read of stuff.

01:24:36.100 No, I'm not a fan of his either, but it's clear from people that I talked to in both the

01:24:41.660 House and the Senate that Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell, the reason they wanted to raise

01:24:45.140 the debt ceiling for 18 months, again, was to clear the decks of that issue for the rest

01:24:50.060 of this congressional term in order to work on items that are on Trump's stated agenda.

01:24:55.180 Yeah.

01:24:55.660 That's the reason they wanted.

01:24:56.860 They said, we don't want to have to keep debating the debt ceiling every three months.

01:25:00.740 We're behind on tax reform.

01:25:03.600 We're behind on infrastructure.

01:25:04.620 We're behind on funding the wall.

01:25:05.960 All those things are things that they are actually working on, for better or worse.

01:25:09.780 Which we now will have to take a break and come back in December.

01:25:15.340 And fight about the debt ceiling again.

01:25:16.380 And fight about the debt ceiling.

01:25:17.400 It's so bad.

01:25:18.020 I mean, Paul Ryan sucks in a lot of ways, but the idea that you prove that Paul Ryan isn't

01:25:24.100 a Republican by a Republican president siding with the Democrats, what possible mental gymnastics

01:25:31.420 could you come up with to make that point make any sense at all?

01:25:34.420 And then I love the idea, because you just mentioned this, he cleared the way for tax reform

01:25:38.660 because Chuck Schumer in a few months is going to be like, you know what?

01:25:41.060 You guys gave us that debt ceiling thing.

01:25:42.500 You know what?

01:25:42.860 We're going to do that tax reform for you.

01:25:45.100 That's intentional insanity.

01:25:48.580 There's nothing even remotely close to the way this world works that reflects that point.

01:25:52.060 Talking to Leon Wolfie is the managing editor for The Blaze.

01:25:55.960 Leon, what do you make of Nancy Pelosi, obviously, leaking that she called Donald Trump up this

01:26:03.480 morning and said, hey, can you can you tweet that if you are in DACA, that there's nothing

01:26:09.400 to worry about?

01:26:10.160 No action is going to be taken right away.

01:26:12.340 And then as soon as he tweets it, she releases to somebody at Politico.

01:26:17.880 You know what?

01:26:18.560 I called him.

01:26:19.260 I mean, if that's not a and a a passive aggressive move, and that's aggressive, aggressive.

01:26:28.040 That's crazy.

01:26:30.220 How can Trump has to respond to that?

01:26:32.680 Right.

01:26:32.940 You would think he would like if he if he's not like in writing saying like if there's

01:26:37.960 not screenshots of a text conversation between him and Nancy Pelosi, he's like, OK, sure,

01:26:41.780 I'll tweet it.

01:26:42.440 He's going to come out and say, no, there's no way I did that.

01:26:44.600 She's not come out and said it publicly.

01:26:46.080 Yeah.

01:26:46.480 Yeah.

01:26:47.160 Not just the report.

01:26:48.660 It's she was on MSNBC as soon as he did it.

01:26:51.060 It was almost like she planned it.

01:26:53.840 I'm sure she did.

01:26:54.880 And, you know, I'm going to I'm going to ask him to tweet this and he's going to do

01:26:59.060 it.

01:26:59.260 And then I'm going to go back out.

01:27:00.600 And because there's only there's only one reason to do that.

01:27:03.840 And that is to get people on the right to say it's trolling.

01:27:09.560 Yeah.

01:27:09.960 Yeah.

01:27:10.280 Donald Trump.

01:27:10.840 Look what Donald Trump is doing.

01:27:11.860 It's true.

01:27:12.280 It's just purely trying to bear.

01:27:13.540 I'm skeptical.

01:27:14.640 I'm skeptical that that happened.

01:27:16.020 But we'll see.

01:27:16.580 We'll see what Trump says.

01:27:17.720 I mean, who knows?

01:27:18.480 Who knows?

01:27:19.360 You're not saying reporters would not tell you the truth.

01:27:21.480 Well, the truth is they received it from Nancy Pelosi.

01:27:25.460 Right.

01:27:27.580 Sometimes unnamed sources are better.

01:27:29.260 What is truth?

01:27:29.660 Right.

01:27:30.000 Yeah.

01:27:30.520 I mean, because now that she said it, I believe it less than when it was from an unnamed source.

01:27:34.100 Right.

01:27:34.680 When Nancy Pelosi comes out and says something, there is zero connection to the truth.

01:27:38.880 Can I talk about something that I want to talk to that I think America needs to hear

01:27:43.240 from Leon?

01:27:44.300 And that is Logan Lucky.

01:27:46.900 Oh, man.

01:27:47.860 Great movie.

01:27:48.780 Great.

01:27:48.960 Glenn and I both saw it this weekend.

01:27:50.460 What did you think about it?

01:27:51.780 I loved it.

01:27:53.180 If you liked Ocean's Eleven, they say it in the middle of the movie and it's true.

01:27:57.020 This is Ocean's 7-Eleven.

01:27:58.960 This is Ocean's Eleven in West Virginia and it is so well done.

01:28:04.160 You will love this movie.

01:28:06.940 Here's what I really liked about the movie.

01:28:08.820 And there have been some people who are conservatives who watch it who think, you know, oh, this is

01:28:13.720 Hollywood making fun of people, you know, who live in the sticks.

01:28:16.240 There's a little bit of that, but I think in the most part, it's a pretty genuine

01:28:19.380 portrayal and a lot of the struggles these people have.

01:28:21.340 You'll love it.

01:28:21.740 Mercury.

01:28:21.940 The End

01:28:51.920 There's some great stories.

01:28:58.320 The one you have to read on the Blaze, the unsung heroes, the couple in Houston that were supposed to get married and they ended up canceling because they wanted to help all of their friends and neighbors.

01:29:08.860 And they took all of the food that they had purchased for their wedding and their reception and delivered it down to the victims of Hurricane Harvey.

01:29:22.360 And we are keeping an eye on Irma as it's starting to come on shore here in the next couple of days.

01:29:28.220 We will have operations up and running.

01:29:32.020 Of course, they are still running in Texas and we will have more up and running in Florida with MercuryOne.org if you would like to help with that.

01:29:40.260 Pat is here with his point of view and I can't wait to hear on what he is.

01:29:48.560 You're talking about the new host of the Pat Gray experience show?

01:29:52.480 Unleashed?

01:29:53.080 Yeah.

01:29:53.560 Unleashed.

01:29:54.160 Is that what it is?

01:29:55.040 Is it officially named yet?

01:29:56.300 I think it's Unleashed.

01:29:57.420 Yeah.

01:29:57.680 Is it really?

01:29:58.180 Yeah.

01:29:58.700 Pat Gray Unleashed?

01:29:59.920 That's kind of what I joked about a couple of weeks ago with you.

01:30:03.960 It sort of is.

01:30:04.960 Yeah.

01:30:05.280 Pat Gray Unleashed.

01:30:06.120 And so he's kind of taking that to heart.

01:30:07.680 Yeah.

01:30:09.440 I'm interested in hearing what your thoughts are.

01:30:12.760 We spoke to listeners about an hour and a half ago and, you know, we spoke to a couple.

01:30:20.400 So, you know, just getting a small sample size.

01:30:22.540 But we spoke to some people that were not too happy with what's happening with Donald Trump.

01:30:27.820 What?

01:30:28.660 And some that think that this is a well-laid plan.

01:30:33.680 Well, look, I know that we're calling my upcoming show on Monday Pat Gray Unleashed.

01:30:38.900 But, and that might imply perhaps a dash of angst or maybe a smidge of anger from time to time.

01:30:45.960 But I got to tell you, I am feeling nothing but happiness and pride today.

01:30:51.520 Happiness and pride.

01:30:53.520 That's really good.

01:30:54.260 Good to hear.

01:30:54.800 I am proud of our president for reaching across the aisle.

01:31:00.000 Right?

01:31:00.660 Okay.

01:31:01.020 Yep.

01:31:01.240 Who does that?

01:31:02.280 Nobody does that.

01:31:03.300 Even my friends at Fox, who always seem to encourage working with Democrats, right?

01:31:10.140 They, along with me, are really elated today.

01:31:13.780 Listen to this.

01:31:14.580 The president of the United States, a Republican, made a deal with the Democrats.

01:31:18.800 That's the headline.

01:31:19.820 The president overruled his Treasury Secretary and the congressional leadership on the Republican side,

01:31:26.400 who wanted a debt ceiling increase and to fund the government and to get $8 billion for Harvey.

01:31:31.420 They wanted it to go past, the limit to go past next year's midterm elections.

01:31:37.460 They want to kick it all the way down.

01:31:39.080 Right.

01:31:39.500 Democrats just wanted three months.

01:31:41.240 And you know what?

01:31:42.160 The president, not wanting to fight, apparently said, that's the deal I'm going to take right now because we've got tax reform and other stuff we've got to do right now.

01:31:49.880 Good for him.

01:31:50.400 He's doing this for the folks that are affected by Harvey.

01:31:52.440 I remember originally he said he was going to give, it was like $5.95 billion to the folks in Texas.

01:31:59.220 And then we had, I think, Chris Christie on the couch or one leader, another governor, who said, that's not enough money.

01:32:05.920 He needs to give more.

01:32:06.560 Now he's giving $8 billion to help those families.

01:32:08.680 And it's great.

01:32:09.220 Well, some conservatives are upset because they want, big time, big time.

01:32:13.680 But you know what?

01:32:14.020 This is a clear shot at Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan.

01:32:16.380 Hey guys, if you can't get things done, then listen, I'll go work with the Democrats.

01:32:20.760 Right?

01:32:21.320 Oh, that's great.

01:32:22.120 And let's hope the president can also work with the Democrats on tax reform, fixing Obamacare, the wall, comprehensive immigration reform.

01:32:34.280 That one's going to happen.

01:32:35.520 That's going to happen.

01:32:36.400 That one's going to happen.

01:32:37.480 I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if you worked with Democrats on solidifying a woman's right to choose pretty soon.

01:32:44.520 Let's reach across that aisle.

01:32:46.000 Let's do this.

01:32:47.620 It's so great to have the unanimity.

01:32:51.660 Did you think it was great that it wasn't just against Paul Ryan or the congressional leadership, but it was against the advice of the treasury secretary?

01:33:01.280 That's always a good one.

01:33:02.400 Because usually the treasury secretary wants the debt thing done as fast as possible, but no, he was actually arguing for a longer term.

01:33:09.500 And they're making this out like, okay, well, it's a really good thing that he tied it to the Hurricane Harvey relief effort because now Democrats will have to vote for it.

01:33:18.120 Well, first of all, no, they don't.

01:33:19.880 But secondly, when has it ever been tough to get Democrats to vote for an increase in the debt ceiling?

01:33:26.260 Wait, are they acting like that's a miracle?

01:33:29.240 The Democrats are going to vote for a debt ceiling increase?

01:33:33.220 What?

01:33:34.740 You mean like they've done every time since 1791?

01:33:40.720 Huh?

01:33:42.000 Wow.

01:33:43.300 I'm surprised.

01:33:44.360 I'm surprised.

01:33:45.020 The world didn't just turn upside down all of a sudden.

01:33:48.020 You're the expert maybe on the Constitution out of all of us, certainly more than me, England.

01:33:54.100 So, question.

01:33:57.440 The President of the United States makes a deal with the Democratic senators and House members.

01:34:04.620 How is that a bill?

01:34:07.700 That's not a bill, is it?

01:34:09.180 It's not a deal.

01:34:10.600 They're acting like it's a done deal.

01:34:12.220 And I'm thinking, well, isn't there some sort of a, I don't know, what do you call that?

01:34:17.200 Vote?

01:34:17.680 Right.

01:34:20.300 There's got to be a sort of a, with Congress to pass a law.

01:34:25.600 There's got to be a vote.

01:34:28.780 But you know that now the Republicans can't do anything about it because then they will be, then they will be against something that is so bipartisan and you're against all the people in Houston and you're going against this president because you only want to see him fail.

01:34:46.820 I mean, he has said Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan and I've never, I said, don't partner with them, you know, two years ago, five years ago.

01:34:59.900 But when he was saying, you know, we're going to partner, I was saying no.

01:35:04.540 Okay.

01:35:05.000 So they did it anyway.

01:35:07.740 But now when you have to actually have somebody in Congress that will push through legislation like tax reform, when you need somebody to actually help you on this DACA thing, he's setting them up for failure.

01:35:28.860 There's no way for them to get tax reform done.

01:35:32.280 There's no way because they're going to be arguing about.

01:35:33.940 It's all got to be compromised with the Democrats now.

01:35:35.620 Yes.

01:35:36.220 And so now.

01:35:37.260 He set that precedent and now they're going to use it the rest of his term.

01:35:41.440 And you said earlier you were happy about that, right?

01:35:43.420 And I couldn't be happier, Stu.

01:35:45.440 I am so proud that we're finally coming together.

01:35:48.280 We're finally working in unison on these things.

01:35:51.160 So now, Pat, because I remember there were a lot of voices that have been very upset with me when I said, hey, let's let's reach across to people, not politically, not reach across the political aisle.

01:36:04.040 We don't we don't compromise what we're looking for, but we do reach across the aisle to find people who are just as sick of this game as we are.

01:36:16.380 And I remember there were a lot of people that were very upset because you're just going to be used.

01:36:22.040 You're just upon you've sold out everything, even though I say, no, no, no, I'm still for all of the things I've always been for.

01:36:32.080 They didn't accept that.

01:36:33.560 I'm trying to not.

01:36:34.680 I'm trying to understand.

01:36:36.700 Well, should I have given up all of my principles and reach across the aisle?

01:36:41.900 Because that's what it seems like is popular now.

01:36:43.880 Well, you just have to remember three things.

01:36:48.540 What?

01:36:48.960 Yeah, but Trump.

01:36:51.860 Everything you said is true.

01:36:53.520 Yeah, but Trump.

01:36:55.920 I mean, it's where it ends.

01:36:58.000 That's a good point.

01:36:58.580 It's where it ends.

01:36:59.240 I like that.

01:37:00.120 You can't argue with it.

01:37:01.160 No, you really.

01:37:02.780 Well, you can't.

01:37:04.520 You just won't get anywhere.

01:37:05.980 You're not going to get anywhere.

01:37:06.820 You're not going to get anywhere.

01:37:13.880 So there is a story about Boomer and Carton, and you may not know who they are.

01:37:33.900 Boomer Esiason and Carton, Craig Carton, they do mornings on WFAN in New York.

01:37:43.080 They replace Don Imus.

01:37:45.160 I have to call Don today and see if he will come on and, and, uh, jeez.

01:37:50.220 You want Imus on talking about that?

01:37:51.760 Oh, I'd love to have Imus on tomorrow and talk about this.

01:37:54.380 Um, but, uh, so Boomer was on and, uh, he's like, uh, Craig's not around.

01:38:00.680 I don't know what's, uh, what's happening with Craig.

01:38:02.600 He called in sick on me.

01:38:04.040 Yeah.

01:38:04.600 They found out later in the show.

01:38:06.260 He wasn't, uh, well, he wasn't sick.

01:38:08.060 Um, he has been arrested by the FBI.

01:38:12.100 Uh, and apparently, uh, Craig was a part of a Ponzi scheme.

01:38:17.640 Well, I mean, I don't think it, to my view, not technically.

01:38:20.820 Um, basically what happened was he got into a little, a little, uh, a little debt, apparently

01:38:26.360 with gambling.

01:38:28.060 And again, this is the report.

01:38:29.420 He was arrested by the FBI.

01:38:30.900 Uh, so this is a pretty big deal, but he would, a lot of debt, hundreds of thousands of dollars,

01:38:34.740 maybe millions of dollars in gambling debt to casinos and other sources.

01:38:38.300 Oh, so all the best people.

01:38:39.560 All the best people.

01:38:40.340 All the best people.

01:38:41.480 All the best people.

01:38:42.260 Yeah.

01:38:42.560 So he realized he was in trouble with this and they came up with a, him and a business

01:38:47.620 partner came up with a plan.

01:38:49.040 Ah.

01:38:49.400 And this plan was pretty interesting, actually, because he had access to these, um, to these

01:38:54.120 concert promoters, um, where he could buy tour tickets for Katy Perry, Justin Bieber, Roger

01:38:59.100 Waters, Metallica, Barbra Streisand, and others like, uh, Hamilton, the, the play.

01:39:03.240 Oh, wow.

01:39:03.620 Those are, yeah.

01:39:04.240 Big ones.

01:39:04.760 You could get those in bulk?

01:39:06.020 Yeah.

01:39:06.140 He'd get them in bulk at face value.

01:39:07.880 Holy cow.

01:39:08.560 That's a lot of money.

01:39:09.380 So pretty easy, you know, business here, right?

01:39:11.460 As long as you have the capital up front to pay for the tickets, you take the tickets and

01:39:15.060 you bring them to StubHub or something and you're, you're going to guarantee yourself

01:39:18.320 a huge profit.

01:39:19.540 Huge profit.

01:39:19.880 Yeah.

01:39:19.960 You pay back the original money.

01:39:21.180 Sure.

01:39:21.480 You take a nice chunk for yourself.

01:39:22.680 Sure.

01:39:23.000 You reward the investors.

01:39:24.080 Right.

01:39:24.200 It's actually a pretty, it's a pretty good idea.

01:39:26.100 Right.

01:39:26.440 Sounds good.

01:39:26.920 There was a minor hole in it.

01:39:28.020 Yeah.

01:39:28.280 Uh, he did not have access to any of the tickets.

01:39:32.540 So he wasn't buying the tickets with the money he was paying.

01:39:35.840 Nor selling them.

01:39:36.320 Nor selling them.

01:39:37.140 Right.

01:39:37.320 He was just buying.

01:39:38.240 He was, he was selling the shares investment opportunities for people.

01:39:44.420 He was taking, uh, money, right?

01:39:47.460 Uh, from the investors.

01:39:48.800 Right.

01:39:49.040 To buy the tickets.

01:39:50.760 Well, then he was paying off his gambling debts.

01:39:52.800 Ah.

01:39:53.360 Instead of, instead of buying the tickets.

01:39:55.560 So, so then how would he pay off the investors?

01:39:58.600 He would take, uh, money from new investors.

01:40:01.040 Ah.

01:40:01.140 And he would pay off the old investors.

01:40:02.800 So the old investors would get their money.

01:40:04.920 Right.

01:40:05.380 So nobody loses here, really.

01:40:07.220 Well, there's like one set of investors that might lose.

01:40:11.240 Right.

01:40:11.340 But again, investing's risky, right?

01:40:12.960 Right.

01:40:13.360 And so, so people are calling this a Ponzi scheme, but what they don't understand is that

01:40:17.800 no one's name in the story is Ponzi.

01:40:20.960 Right.

01:40:21.120 Like Charles Ponzi has been dead for a long time.

01:40:23.600 A long time.

01:40:24.080 Right.

01:40:24.200 He had a particular scheme that like, that he ran.

01:40:27.140 This is not that same scheme.

01:40:28.260 Right.

01:40:28.500 What he did was, uh, he would take money from people and he would say, I'm going to invest

01:40:33.640 in something.

01:40:34.180 And then he didn't.

01:40:35.520 And then he would just take money from new investors and give it to the old investors

01:40:40.400 while enriching himself.

01:40:41.560 But what was his name?

01:40:42.720 Charles Ponzi.

01:40:43.440 Right.

01:40:43.660 So that's a Ponzi scheme.

01:40:44.720 Right.

01:40:45.040 This would be a, if you want to call it a carton scheme, you can try that.

01:40:47.480 It's a carton scheme, but it is completely different than Ponzi.

01:40:49.740 Totally different.

01:40:50.340 The name, the letters are, you know, when Charles Ponzi did that, I mean, you know,

01:40:54.600 Charles Ponzi, it's called a Ponzi scheme and he was pretty clear about it.

01:40:58.820 At least at the beginning, he was really, he was really trying to buy these.

01:41:03.140 Yeah.

01:41:03.220 He was up front.

01:41:03.940 He was like, I'm ready.

01:41:04.920 You know, this is the deal.

01:41:05.660 We're going to buy these.

01:41:06.500 I think they were stamps.

01:41:07.920 We're going to buy these Italian stamps and we're going to, we'll then send them back

01:41:13.960 because you get, I can't remember, you get money back.

01:41:17.700 It's kind of like buying a bunch of, you know, return this bottle, you know, refund.

01:41:21.880 The old Seinfeld scheme where they're going to take it from the five cent state and return

01:41:26.080 them in the 10 cent state.

01:41:26.960 That's exactly what the Ponzi scheme started as, except they were stamps.

01:41:30.260 Uh, and it was working with the Italian post office.

01:41:34.420 And so it was legitimate.

01:41:36.040 The idea was legitimate.

01:41:37.720 And then he started raising money for it.

01:41:39.860 And then he realized, oh, that won't work, but he, but he had raised the money.

01:41:47.560 And so he was like, God, I raised so much money.

01:41:49.840 And so why don't I just pay off these investors and invest some more?

01:41:53.320 Cause I'm sure at some point we're going to be able to make that work.

01:41:56.160 Like, so, you know, he entered it kind of thinking I'm going to actually do it.

01:42:04.480 It doesn't sound like, uh, Mr. Carton here has, uh, had any intention of actually.

01:42:11.340 Right.

01:42:11.840 And of course now, so far, these things are alleged, right?

01:42:14.200 It might not be true.

01:42:15.000 Um, the other part of it is you get yourself into these dark corners of your life and you

01:42:20.800 do lots of things you did not consider doing before.

01:42:22.860 I mean, they, he at one point had, um, and this is according to his emails, um, $2.5 million

01:42:29.840 in outstanding debt and get through gambling that was due in the next 30 days.

01:42:34.940 So I don't know.

01:42:35.760 I don't even know how through a casino you could do that.

01:42:37.920 It's gotta be other stuff too.

01:42:40.180 Do you, do you think you might have a problem?

01:42:44.280 Um, it's possible.

01:42:46.780 I'm thinking if you, you know, if you have, uh, two of any number more than two zeros after

01:42:55.740 the two, you might have a problem.

01:42:58.480 So the total number he's believed to have put through this scheme is $5.6 million.

01:43:04.840 Uh, and to further the scheme, cause these are hedge fund guys, they, but they, you know,

01:43:10.840 here's a guy I listened to the radio every morning.

01:43:12.620 I can't imagine, uh, he's going to scam me.

01:43:15.040 So he had made allegedly these, uh, documents and had them signed from the concert promoters

01:43:22.160 showing that they had purchased the tickets.

01:43:23.960 I mean, they went pretty far down this line to cover this.

01:43:26.700 I don't know how you think you're getting out of that.

01:43:28.480 Maybe you think you're going to go to the casino and hit one day and you'll be able to pay

01:43:31.380 it all back.

01:43:31.940 I don't know what a gambler does, I guess, I guess that's where it goes, but that is

01:43:35.820 you're deep into it.

01:43:37.360 And again, this is a job that he was just voted.

01:43:39.340 I think I read in one of these stories that he was, uh, voted the number two most influential,

01:43:43.380 um, sports personality in America.

01:43:45.720 Yeah, not anymore.

01:43:46.980 Yeah, not anymore.

01:43:47.740 I mean, but this is a good gig.

01:43:49.080 He's on a New York.

01:43:50.000 He's on TV.

01:43:50.760 They had a TV simulcast of the show as well.

01:43:52.800 Jeez.

01:43:53.180 Uh, this is a good gig.

01:43:54.640 What's Boomer?

01:43:55.440 I mean, what's going to happen to Boomer now?

01:43:56.980 I mean, he'll keep that gig.

01:43:58.200 I'm sure Boomer Sison, of course, a famous NFL quarterback, as I know, you know,

01:44:01.480 I actually do.

01:44:02.580 He said he loved him for, he's loved him for 10 years.

01:44:05.160 We'll still continue to love him, but it's a dark time.

01:44:09.740 Mercury.

01:44:10.060 Mercury.

The Glenn Beck Program - September 07, 2017

9⧸7⧸17 - Pray for Florida

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