The Glenn Beck Program - 'A Chance To Work'？ - 6⧸12⧸18

00:00:00.000 The Blaze Radio Network, on demand, Glenn Beck.

00:00:08.780 Well, the most historic meeting between two adversaries since the fall of the Soviet Union just happened in Singapore.

00:00:16.780 If you were following the news coverage late last night, you were witnessing history.

00:00:22.280 President Trump, Kim Jong-un have left Singapore after a meeting that was anticipated for 65 years.

00:00:30.460 Now, what happened?

00:00:32.340 Well, first, the bad.

00:00:35.160 I didn't really like to see, you know, Donald Trump throwing kisses and the people cheering for Kim Jong-un.

00:00:47.800 You know, I just, I don't know.

00:00:50.840 There's something about just even our flag next to North Korea.

00:00:55.120 One standing for liberty and peace and opportunity, and the other is slavery, hostility, and a cultish following.

00:01:01.800 But, circumstances as they were, the two shook hands.

00:01:06.520 And photographs of roundtable discussions.

00:01:09.740 If you're worried that a cult leader, mass-murdering communist dictator, would gain legitimacy,

00:01:14.980 well, that's exactly what happened.

00:01:18.240 If this had been President Obama, everyone would be destroying him right now.

00:01:22.940 How can we concede so much?

00:01:24.680 John Kerry and Susan Rice, Ben Rhodes, we'd be calling for their heads on a platter.

00:01:28.500 But I think it is also important to look at this optic as the time period that we're in now.

00:01:39.340 The current administration doesn't fall for the same mistakes that Obama did.

00:01:44.480 We're right to criticize the Iran deal.

00:01:47.580 The inspections were weak.

00:01:48.980 They didn't include military facilities.

00:01:51.060 The deal had a sunset clause.

00:01:52.900 We gave them hundreds of millions of dollars in cash, secretly, delivered it in pallets on the, you know, to the Iranian tarmac.

00:02:02.160 They didn't curb their ballistic missile program at all.

00:02:05.220 We didn't even ask them to.

00:02:08.000 We could go on and on and on.

00:02:09.580 The deal was a disaster, but it was because our president at the time believed that we were the aggressors in the world.

00:02:19.100 Say what you want about Donald Trump.

00:02:21.540 I don't believe that he believes that throughout history, America has been the aggressor.

00:02:29.100 And so he's going to set the record straight that somehow or another, the Korean War was because we were so aggressive.

00:02:36.900 I don't think Donald Trump has even thought about the Korean War up until recently.

00:02:43.340 And I don't think that he thinks we were the aggressor.

00:02:48.800 Look at how we were fighting ISIS under Barack Obama.

00:02:52.340 Look how we're fighting ISIS today.

00:02:54.680 Flash forward a few years and Iran has taken all of those freshly unlocked billions and used it to sweep the entire Middle East. 0.99

00:03:03.620 The deal between President Trump and Kim Jong-un will be nothing like that.

00:03:11.040 Now, that's if it goes forward.

00:03:13.980 We didn't really get anything last night.

00:03:17.060 Let me give you the good side.

00:03:19.440 In 1950, the Secretary of State gave a speech to the National Press Club outlining the U.S. defense perimeter following World War II.

00:03:27.940 But during that speech, he mistakenly left off one key country, South Korea.

00:03:35.400 Kim Il-sung, Kim Jong's grandfather, had begun begging Stalin to let him invade the South. 0.54

00:03:44.540 But the Soviets were holding him in check.

00:03:47.100 They didn't want to provoke a U.S. response.

00:03:49.180 But the speech provided an opening.

00:03:52.820 It was immediately translated and rushed to Stalin's desk.

00:03:56.380 And Stalin called emergency meetings with both Mao and Kim.

00:04:00.260 And the attack order was given.

00:04:01.820 And the rest is tragic history.

00:04:04.000 That was 40,000 Americans that would die in the next three years because one man made a mistake in a speech.

00:04:12.220 In short, the Korean War was just a diplomatic accident. 0.51

00:04:17.860 A disaster, but an accident.

00:04:20.000 Should have never happened.

00:04:22.020 And it is high time that we end it.

00:04:26.080 The president opened a door.

00:04:30.640 Formally ending the Korean War and denuclearizing the North.

00:04:36.240 But keeping the legitimizing and the complimenting of a mass murder communist dictator of a slave state.

00:04:50.180 We should keep those out of the discussions.

00:04:53.240 But there is, I think, a method to the madness.

00:04:55.980 This is Kim Jong-un's shot at being on the world stage for something different than being evil.

00:05:09.660 And I think the president knows that.

00:05:14.120 And I think it has a chance to work.

00:05:17.740 Do we have the audio, Sarah, of that film that Donald Trump had made for the opening of the event yesterday?

00:05:41.040 The press conference?

00:05:43.000 I think that, I sent it to Mike.

00:05:45.220 I think it's important that we see the possible method to Donald Trump's seeming madness that everybody, you know, is saying,

00:05:57.300 Well, this is crazy, and we didn't get anything out of it.

00:06:00.040 Well, we didn't.

00:06:01.780 But remember what happened at Reykjavik.

00:06:04.360 We didn't get anything either.

00:06:06.760 Ronald Reagan walks away from the table, and everybody was like,

00:06:09.440 This is crazy!

00:06:11.100 He won't give up Star Wars!

00:06:12.680 No, because there was a reason he wanted more.

00:06:19.460 Now, we don't have Star Wars.

00:06:23.460 What is the pressure that we have?

00:06:26.920 Because remember, Gorbachev wanted his country to change.

00:06:33.360 Kim Jong-un does not want his country to change.

00:06:36.760 There's no glass nose that is happening here.

00:06:40.100 So, what is it that we have?

00:06:44.140 Economic pressure?

00:06:45.620 Okay.

00:06:46.480 They're already starving.

00:06:49.500 We're going to hurt his people more than Kim Jong-un? 0.52

00:06:55.380 You're going to start a coup with Kim Jong-un?

00:07:00.800 What? 0.96

00:07:01.560 He kills everybody for looking at him sideways.

00:07:04.960 So, how are you going to do this?

00:07:09.860 We had Gorbachev that brought down the wall.

00:07:13.620 And Gorbachev wanted glass nose.

00:07:15.960 So, he opened up the door, and that let the infection of freedom in.

00:07:21.380 And it collapsed it from the inside.

00:07:24.180 Along with economic pressure and everything else.

00:07:27.500 We don't have that.

00:07:31.380 What we do have is a guy who's an egomaniac that runs that country.

00:07:39.900 A guy who wants to be famous.

00:07:44.840 Did you find the video, Sarah?

00:07:47.860 Okay.

00:07:49.060 Well, we'll play it later on in the program.

00:07:51.620 This video, Donald Trump had made.

00:07:56.180 And it's like a Hollywood movie.

00:07:58.380 It's like a trailer.

00:08:00.440 You know, even says, starring Donald Trump and Kim Jong-un.

00:08:05.020 And the whole feeling of it is, what if?

00:08:10.000 What if this one leader from North Korea decides to choose the future? 0.93

00:08:18.620 And it paints him as this global hero.

00:08:24.680 If he chooses the future.

00:08:27.560 If he chooses the past, it shows nuclear obliteration.

00:08:33.420 But if he chooses the future.

00:08:35.980 So, you've planted the seed of, I can be famous in the whole world.

00:08:43.220 Not just my country.

00:08:44.860 Now, his hardliners around him are going to say, no, that's a trick.

00:08:51.900 Don't do it.

00:08:52.960 You can't do this. 1.00

00:08:54.420 He's going to kill them. 1.00

00:08:56.200 He'll end up killing the hardliners. 1.00

00:08:59.220 And I think for a guy like, look. 0.97

00:09:03.560 We all know Donald Trump.

00:09:06.120 How do you get Donald Trump to do something, Stu?

00:09:09.560 How do you get him to do something he doesn't want to do?

00:09:12.380 Flatter him.

00:09:13.060 And have some opposing people who say, you can't do that.

00:09:20.600 Right.

00:09:20.840 Yeah.

00:09:21.120 If you have an opposition that says, in no uncertain terms, you can't do that, it makes him want to do it.

00:09:29.360 Right.

00:09:29.660 And if the other side is flattering him, it's a done deal.

00:09:33.980 It's a done deal.

00:09:35.100 I think Donald Trump, he may not be self-aware enough to know that he does this.

00:09:41.500 But I think the one thing that you can spot in other people are the things that you are.

00:09:48.920 Even if you don't have self-awareness, he can read Kim Jong-un, unlike I think any other president.

00:09:55.740 Because in some ways, he has that same trait of nobody's going to tell me what to do.

00:10:01.960 And if you flatter me, I'm going to be, I'm going that direction.

00:10:05.700 So that's what he's doing.

00:10:10.140 I think, and this is going to be controversial.

00:10:14.400 And I don't know if any of this is true.

00:10:19.500 This may be wishful thinking.

00:10:22.000 But I think that if you compare what happened with Reykjavik and what is happening now, there is no comparison in some regard.

00:10:34.420 Because we don't have Star Wars.

00:10:37.120 We don't have that toughest nails.

00:10:40.340 We're going to collapse you. 1.00

00:10:42.320 And you're an evil empire. 1.00

00:10:44.400 And we're going to destroy you. 1.00

00:10:46.560 We don't have that.

00:10:48.080 We also don't have a Gorbachev inside who says, I want to open my country up.

00:10:56.100 So without a Star Wars, what do we have?

00:11:01.020 We have his desire to be part of the world.

00:11:04.780 We have his desire to be famous.

00:11:09.840 Here's the controversial part.

00:11:11.360 I actually think, because of the time, who's in office, how this is playing out, I actually think that if it works out that we denuclearize.

00:11:27.180 I think Dennis Rodman deserves some credit.

00:11:35.760 Yeah.

00:11:36.960 No, you don't think so?

00:11:38.180 No, but I'm on the border on this.

00:11:40.760 I mean, this is all conjecture at this point.

00:11:43.540 This is if this works.

00:11:46.160 Right.

00:11:46.240 Let's just say, yeah, for example, we're in the, by the way, the top of the first inning.

00:11:49.980 Yes.

00:11:50.400 I mean, people who are celebrating this as an accomplishment.

00:11:53.620 I don't think anyone in the Trump administration would tell you it is an accomplishment yet.

00:11:57.520 And it is the first step towards one.

00:11:59.840 And anybody who's tearing it down.

00:12:01.980 Right.

00:12:02.120 Remember, you tore down Reagan right after he left Reykjavik.

00:12:05.120 Exactly.

00:12:05.680 It worked.

00:12:06.080 It's, you know, hopefully this leads to something is where we are.

00:12:10.160 And that's a great place to be.

00:12:11.600 It's better than we're bombing each other.

00:12:13.160 So that's positive.

00:12:15.660 But here's the thing on Rodman.

00:12:18.460 And again, like we're going to play, we'll have the Rodman audio of him crying on CNN.

00:12:22.520 And it's bizarre.

00:12:23.860 It's a bizarre, bizarre moment.

00:12:25.060 It's really bizarre.

00:12:25.640 Here's the one thing I'll give Rodman credit for.

00:12:29.120 Kim Jong-un is Adolf Hitler. 0.99

00:12:31.480 He's not just some silly goose. 0.99

00:12:33.640 And it is important to remember that. 0.98

00:12:35.320 It's important to remember that.

00:12:36.500 This guy is, as of 2016 at least, still investing tons of money into concentration camps.

00:12:44.800 Yes.

00:12:45.640 He is not a jokey character.

00:12:48.320 What I find interesting, and potentially, you give Rodman a little credit for this,

00:12:54.680 it would have been very strange for a U.S. president to go visit Adolf Hitler as he's building concentration camps. 0.83

00:13:02.040 And I don't know if this is credit, but I think it's an effect. 0.93

00:13:05.820 That Rodman's visits over there helped make it more silly. 1.00

00:13:11.780 It was instead of visiting Adolf Hitler, it was visiting a moron. 1.00

00:13:15.240 Right? 0.99

00:13:15.440 And Michael Malice will be on here in a few minutes with us, and he'll be happy to tell us that that is not the case.

00:13:20.240 Right?

00:13:20.440 That is not who these people are.

00:13:21.640 But in a way, the perception was, okay, this is a guy, it's kind of like this Dennis Rodman's going there and playing basketball for him.

00:13:30.680 It's kind of, it took away that really spooky, you know, genocidal maniac vibe.

00:13:40.560 It made him more into Dr. Evil.

00:13:43.360 Yeah.

00:13:44.560 Almost a cartoon character, which is not true.

00:13:47.480 He's not that guy.

00:13:48.480 Right.

00:13:48.900 But it did maybe ease the path for a U.S. president to go over there and visit him.

00:13:55.660 Rodman also said something really important last night while he was crying, which is a bizarre interview we'll play in a minute.

00:14:02.940 Um, he, uh, he said, uh, you know, he's just a kid.

00:14:10.320 He's just like a kid.

00:14:13.720 He, Rodman talked to Trump about this and he said he talked to Obama and he said Obama wouldn't listen to him at all.

00:14:22.500 And, you know, I probably wouldn't have listened to Donald or to, uh, to Rodman either.

00:14:28.080 Nor would many in his family.

00:14:29.260 Right.

00:14:29.920 But Donald Trump did listen to him at this point.

00:14:34.120 And I think what Rodman saw, uh, and was reporting on is this guy just wants to be loved.

00:14:43.320 I just want to be loved.

00:14:46.140 And he is, that's more important to him than anything.

00:14:50.280 Now, I'm not saying that what's not, what won't happen is that he will continue to be the leader of North Korea for a long time.

00:15:01.700 What has to happen is he has to let his guard down.

00:15:06.600 He has to open the walls of his country.

00:15:09.540 And then, just like the Soviet Union, it will collapse from within. 0.91

00:15:15.620 You can't have these two regimes open.

00:15:19.840 You cannot have people coming in from North Korea into South, uh, from South Korea going into North Korea and expect everything to be okay.

00:15:29.040 It won't.

00:15:29.620 The people of South Korea will be affected by the North in a very, uh, hostile way.

00:15:37.180 In some ways, they'll see what's happening to their family members.

00:15:40.480 And the people of South Korea will see the wealth and the access of their brothers and sisters and families, and they will want part of it.

00:15:51.960 It's glass nose.

00:15:53.220 It will, Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall.

00:15:56.360 He didn't do it because Ronald Reagan said it.

00:15:58.620 Ronald Reagan just was the final impetus to have those people who had been living behind that wall to say, I've had enough.

00:16:06.200 And that's what could happen because of a man's ego.

00:16:18.740 That would, that, that ego would be Kim Jong-un's.

00:16:22.760 Yeah.

00:16:23.000 If you watched.

00:16:23.760 And, and, and Dennis Rodman.

00:16:25.580 Yeah, sure.

00:16:26.300 Um, if you watch the, the actual handshake of him, the Rodman thing looked accurate.

00:16:31.920 He looked like a little boy.

00:16:33.000 He, he, like, it didn't look like a world leader at all.

00:16:36.240 He looked like a nervous kid at a spelling bee.

00:16:38.740 Like, it was just a weird vibe.

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00:18:31.660 Let's play a little bit of this video just so you hear just a little bit of what Donald Trump had made for the introduction of him and Kim Jong-un.

00:18:44.580 Seven billion people inhabit planet Earth.

00:18:48.520 Of those alive today, only a small number will leave a lasting impact.

00:18:53.320 And only the very few will make decisions or take actions that renew their homeland and change the course of history.

00:19:04.400 History may appear to repeat itself for generations.

00:19:08.640 Cycles that never seem to end.

00:19:11.680 There have been times of relative peace and times of great tension.

00:19:16.240 So, we have to later on in the program play this whole thing.

00:19:18.960 But you notice what he's saying here about the cycles and the generations that the generation just keeps repeating?

00:19:25.620 Well, if that isn't the Kim family, I don't know what is.

00:19:29.180 Now, in this video, it says, you know, Donald Trump is one of those men.

00:19:33.820 But the last half of it really concentrates on Kim Jong-un.

00:19:39.020 I think this was a masterstroke of playing to Kim Jong-un's ego.

00:19:48.340 It's an interesting game that is being played.

00:19:50.500 We're going to talk to one Westerner who probably knows him better than anybody other than Dennis Rodman next.

00:19:57.820 Let's go to Michael Malice.

00:20:03.000 He is author of the book, Dear Reader, the unauthorized biography of Kim Jong-il.

00:20:09.320 Welcome to the program, Michael.

00:20:11.920 Thank you so much.

00:20:13.200 So, Michael, we've been talking the last half hour.

00:20:16.400 I don't know if you've had a chance to listen.

00:20:18.340 But we have been kind of dancing around the idea that the game that I think Donald Trump is playing is he is trying to appeal to Kim Jong-un's ego.

00:20:35.320 And I think Dennis Rodman kind of stumbled on it without really knowing.

00:20:40.920 Kim is like, as Dennis said, like a child in some ways.

00:20:46.340 He just wants to be liked.

00:20:47.600 He wants to play in the West.

00:20:49.860 He wants to be that guy.

00:20:51.320 Unlike Gorbachev, he doesn't want to change his country.

00:20:55.720 And Donald Trump is playing to his ego to get him to want more of that and be able to stand up to the hardliners and kind of come our way.

00:21:07.840 Do you think that's accurate or not?

00:21:09.800 I think that's half accurate.

00:21:11.320 And, in fact, I think what Donald Trump is doing is exactly what North Korea lays out as their strategy in their literature, which is you go after someone with empty threats.

00:21:22.380 Well, not with empty threats, but strong threats.

00:21:24.300 And at the same time, you leave them one exit in order to get them to do what they want.

00:21:29.000 And the example they use, they say things like, North Korea is offended.

00:21:32.940 We've never been insulted like this.

00:21:34.940 This is absolutely outrageous.

00:21:36.780 However, if you want to give us some oil, we'll look the other way.

00:21:39.780 So I'm very certain behind the scenes and publicly, the threats have been very, very strong.

00:21:46.060 And just like remember that letter when President Trump canceled the summit, it was it had the same time that had threats.

00:21:52.360 We have the world's biggest nuclear arsenal, but he's also like, please do the right thing.

00:21:56.560 So he's showing him the back of his hand and reaching out for a handshake at the same time.

00:22:01.240 So what do we get out of this then?

00:22:04.700 Because if as I read this, I was I was hoping and I still am hoping that what's happening is he'll open the doors enough.

00:22:18.620 Gorbachev did it intentionally, but he'll open the doors enough and it will rot it quickly because of the infection of freedom.

00:22:26.880 It will rot it from the inside and he'll collapse.

00:22:29.900 Well, Gorbachev didn't do it completely intentionally in this sense.

00:22:35.540 There's a phenomenal book called Revolution 1989, which I recommend to everyone, which talks about how after Poland had their elections, country after country in the Soviet Union, in the Soviet bloc, excuse me, started to liberalize and governments start to fall.

00:22:50.440 And Ceausescu of Romania and East Germany were calling Gorbachev saying, you've got to send in the tanks.

00:22:57.220 And he said, I refuse.

00:22:58.460 And as a result of this, the domino, this is the actual domino theory.

00:23:02.260 That's what brought down the Soviet empire. 0.95

00:23:03.960 So at a certain point, when you put your hand, you take your hand off the wheel, events have a momentum of their own doing. 0.99

00:23:12.340 No matter how bright people think Kim Jong-un is, and it's kind of baffling to me how so many people in the corporate press want to make him out to be the biggest genius of all time, if only to make President Trump look stupid by comparison. 0.92

00:23:23.620 No matter how bright you are, there's a certain point where you don't realize what's going to happen to you. 0.96

00:23:29.740 And the other thing is, Kim Jong-un didn't earn his position.

00:23:34.500 He inherited it.

00:23:36.320 It's an heir.

00:23:37.320 So if there is this kind of paternalism on behalf of President Trump saying, look, kid, you've got to do the right thing, especially in a country like North Korea, like much of Asia, which is so based on respecting and venerating those who are older.

00:23:50.900 However, this could be an absolutely wonderful technique President Trump is doing behind the scenes and publicly praising him.

00:23:57.060 But, you know, listen, if someone has hostages and you want to say nice things about him, fine by me.

00:24:02.160 And it works.

00:24:03.000 It works.

00:24:03.980 Yeah.

00:24:04.820 Michael, I was thinking of you as all this was breaking last night of how bizarre this must look to the North Korean people, you know, who they got, you know, a half century of saying that we're so evil and we're going to come attack them at any moment.

00:24:19.520 And then all of a sudden there they are smiling and shaking hands with Kim Jong-un and President Trump.

00:24:26.500 Is that just one of those things where they see Kim Jong-un as the ultimate authority?

00:24:31.000 He knows what's right.

00:24:32.120 Do they see this as a victory on their side?

00:24:35.280 How do the North Korean people see this?

00:24:37.940 I mean, it's not going to be hard for them to spin it back home.

00:24:42.320 As, look, the American president is praising Kim Jong-un, saying we have a great relationship, saying how, you know, wonderful he is, how well we work together.

00:24:51.420 And this was Kim Jong-un bending Donald Trump to his will and so on and so forth and guaranteeing, you know, protection and that they wouldn't interfere with the country.

00:25:01.520 You know, this is what we've been waiting for for 70 years.

00:25:04.760 The U.S. interiorists, as we're referred to, have been trying to conquer Korea since the 1860s when we sent USS General Sherman there.

00:25:12.700 And now, finally, Kim Jong-un has achieved peace.

00:25:15.760 And their slogan they always use is, we are not afraid of war, but we are prepared for war.

00:25:21.760 And Applebaum runs in the Washington Post.

00:25:25.060 I want to get your take on this.

00:25:26.000 For Kim Jong-un, the moment is this moment is vindication.

00:25:29.220 The wisdom of his nuclear policy has been confirmed. 0.97

00:25:31.700 His tiny, poor, often hungry country, where hundreds of thousands have perished in concentration camps that little that differ little from those built by Stalin, has been treated as the equal of the United States of America. 0.87

00:25:42.480 If Kim hadn't continued the missile program, if he hadn't enhanced his missile delivery capability, President Trump would not be there.

00:25:49.000 Anne Applebaum is an amazing woman who wrote the book Gulag, A History, which just traces a gulag.

00:25:57.880 I mean, I can't recommend it enough.

00:26:00.180 And there are many comparisons between the Kim regime and Stalin.

00:26:03.800 Specifically during the 90s, they chose to allow one to two million people to starve, just like Stalin did with Ukraine. 0.91

00:26:11.560 So this is a genocidal regime.

00:26:13.720 It's not just a dictatorial, which is bad enough.

00:26:16.400 I think the idea that Kim Jong-un needs validation, certainly in his own country, is false.

00:26:24.840 If he gets validation on the world stage, at a certain point, you have to respect someone with nukes. 0.98

00:26:30.020 I don't mean respect in the sense of, oh, you're such a person that I admire, but you have to acknowledge their strength and that this has to be dealt with.

00:26:37.900 So I think she has a point that, but for the nukes, this wouldn't be an issue necessarily for President Trump.

00:26:42.700 At the same time, it seems so clear that this worried him at a human rights level.

00:26:48.940 I mean, that's so much of what he focused on.

00:26:51.680 And I mean, this is something that's clearly been a part of the summit.

00:26:56.000 And that's my, and I know you guys and the listeners, that's the big hope here of, you know, freeing the people of North Korea.

00:27:02.480 Everybody says that anybody could have done what happened last night.

00:27:09.020 For instance, you know, they're saying Barack Obama would have done this.

00:27:14.920 Yeah, yeah.

00:27:15.920 I was on Martha McCallum, and they said Barack Obama should get credit, and people took screen caps of the faces I was making.

00:27:23.020 There's a movie in the early 60s, I believe, which some guys, you guys might remember, called Whatever Happened to Baby Jane,

00:27:29.760 with Joan Crawford and Bette Davis, and Joan Crawford says to her,

00:27:34.480 Jane, you wouldn't be so mean to me if I wasn't in this wheelchair.

00:27:37.200 And she turns to her and goes, but you are, Blanche, you are in the chair.

00:27:40.700 So this idea that anyone could have had this happen, well, it didn't, did it?

00:27:45.100 You know, so, I mean, the idea that President Hillary or President Jeb would be there in Singapore, beggars belief to me.

00:27:53.180 I mean, why hasn't this happened before?

00:27:54.620 Because, Michael, the idea is that, theoretically, a U.S. president could have said,

00:27:59.620 I want to fly to Singapore and meet with Kim Jong-un, and probably Kim Jong-un comes.

00:28:03.620 But they didn't do it because they weren't able to do whatever Trump does here.

00:28:09.660 Like, he obviously has some motivation, some ability to look past these sort of traditional things that stopped all of these conversations in the past.

00:28:19.960 And it's yet to be determined whether this is going to work out as a good thing or a bad thing.

00:28:24.120 But I don't think any other president would have tried this.

00:28:27.260 They could have tried it, but I don't think they would have tried it.

00:28:29.360 I don't know if they could have read Kim Jong-un as well as Donald Trump reads Kim Jong-un.

00:28:37.560 I mean, it takes one to know one.

00:28:39.600 We all know that Donald Trump has a massive, massive ego.

00:28:44.460 Now, whether he is aware of that or not, I don't know.

00:28:47.960 But you see the things in others that you have.

00:28:52.440 And I can guarantee you that on the plane over, he got all kinds of advice from all kinds of people.

00:28:59.340 And I can guarantee you, at some point, he looked at him and said, believe me, I've got it.

00:29:05.480 I know this guy.

00:29:06.740 And it would have been the first time that I think Donald Trump or any president would have been right to shut down all the other advisors, you know, in the end.

00:29:18.060 Because I think he does see whether he sees it in himself or not.

00:29:24.880 He knows it.

00:29:26.380 He recognizes it in him.

00:29:28.960 I agree with that 100 percent.

00:29:30.720 He's the proverbial bull in a China shop.

00:29:32.760 And at the same time, sometimes that China needs smashing, no pun intended. 0.93

00:29:37.800 If you look at other politicians who have gone through the ranks and have paid their dues, they're going to be beholden to the establishment and to the party and so on and so forth.

00:29:47.220 Understandably, with Trump, he's like, yeah, I'm going to do what I want.

00:29:50.100 I mean, you know, when he was on the debate stage and accused to Jeb's face that George W. Bush had some complicity in 9-11, this is not a typical Republican.

00:29:58.560 And Ted Cruz's dad shot JFK, this is not someone who's exactly playing with diplomatic niceties. 0.92

00:30:05.580 At the same time, Kim Jong-un is a gangster regime, a murderer.

00:30:10.520 So to treat him, again, like you treat Angela Merkel or Theresa May or Trudeau, you can't. 0.66

00:30:16.800 Because he's not someone who, when you treat someone like that without aggression, you're in a sense validating the blood that they've gained.

00:30:26.700 I have to think, too, that Trump, in his business dealings all around the world, has run into essentially this type of character many times, right?

00:30:35.640 I mean, certainly not genocidal maniacs that he's selling real estate to, but really rich people with gigantic egos that want all the attention and all the best things.

00:30:44.460 Those are the people he's probably dealing with on a fairly regular basis.

00:30:48.140 This is certainly to a much different level.

00:30:50.520 But he seems very familiar with this character type.

00:30:54.380 Kim Jong-un is the ultimate case of being born on third base and thinking you hit a triple. 0.53

00:31:02.000 There is no one, literally, on Earth who's inherited more than him.

00:31:07.380 He inherited an entire country.

00:31:10.040 So, yeah, if you're dealing in real estate, of course you're dealing with these rich kids who think they're brilliant and they're real estate magnets.

00:31:16.960 And you smile and you shake your hand and you get their property from them.

00:31:20.360 I mean, this is New York real estate 101.

00:31:22.760 So I agree with that assessment completely.

00:31:25.620 I mean, he's seen this song and dance many, many times, not in the sense of genocide, but certainly in the case of someone who just stumbled onto a phenomenally good situation for them.

00:31:35.420 And Trump knows how to exploit that for his own benefit.

00:31:37.720 I think it's interesting that he is the third generation.

00:31:41.820 And if you study generational wealth, it is almost always the third generation that loses it.

00:31:51.740 The son, you know, or the second generation, the first generation builds it.

00:31:57.720 The second generation tries to, you know, maintain it, but they're, you know, they're not builders.

00:32:05.240 And then the third generation just expects it and doesn't know necessarily what it takes or took to make it.

00:32:12.700 And they usually squander it.

00:32:15.560 Is this pattern, you think this pattern is going to repeat here?

00:32:19.260 I certainly hope so.

00:32:21.140 And until you just said that, I didn't make a realization of the irony here, which is one of North Korea's rules is that of the great leader Kim Il-sung, where he says class enemies must be exterminated to three generations.

00:32:33.580 And that many people don't know this.

00:32:35.300 In North Korea, when someone is punished, they punish three generations of your family.

00:32:39.100 They don't just punish you.

00:32:39.920 So it would be great if this was the third and last generation of this family that had power in this horrible nation.

00:32:48.580 Yeah.

00:32:48.900 Michael, thank you so much.

00:32:50.700 One more thing.

00:32:51.600 Is there anything that you think people are missing on this that we haven't covered?

00:32:55.800 Yeah.

00:32:56.160 If you are more excited that Trump fail than hope that North Korea becomes peacefully liberated, there's something fundamentally wrong with you.

00:33:06.560 Thanks a lot, Michael.

00:33:07.520 Appreciate it.

00:33:07.900 It's a great point.

00:33:08.760 It is.

00:33:09.920 All right.

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00:34:37.640 Well, there's one thing that I don't understand in any way, shape, or form, and that is Kim Jong-un brought his own toilet.

00:34:50.700 You don't understand that.

00:34:53.220 No, I...

00:34:53.760 Unbelievable.

00:34:54.400 I mean, of course, I travel with my own toilet, but...

00:34:56.760 I mean, who doesn't?

00:34:58.500 Who doesn't?

00:34:59.240 Right.

00:34:59.780 He's a little careful.

00:35:01.300 He's a careful guy.

00:35:02.700 He's worried about...

00:35:03.900 He brought his own toilet to, quote, deny determined sewer divers insights into the Supreme Leader's stools. 0.92

00:35:16.760 Could I...

00:35:17.520 We should have asked Michael this.

00:35:18.840 Yeah.

00:35:19.140 Because I believe that...

00:35:21.900 It used to be believed that his father or grandfather didn't go to the bathroom.

00:35:31.060 I think he might be right on that.

00:35:32.480 Yeah.

00:35:32.660 Yeah.

00:35:32.840 I think he was...

00:35:34.000 It was believed that he never had to go to the bathroom.

00:35:36.800 Well, he's the third in the series, and usually the third one in the series isn't that good.

00:35:39.900 Right.

00:35:40.100 Um, it's not unusual for him to travel with his own toilet.

00:35:43.720 He...

00:35:44.040 When he went to South Korea earlier, uh, in April, he brought his own toilet.

00:35:48.120 He also brought his own pens and pencils to the meeting, and his staff wiped off anything

00:35:52.380 he touched so he wouldn't even leave a fingerprint.

00:35:55.400 He takes similar precautions when he travels inside North Korea.

00:36:00.640 However, this is kind of interesting.

00:36:02.200 The North Koreans' leaders, uh, his, uh, his concern might have historical precedent.

00:36:08.020 In 2016, a former Soviet agent said that while doing research in the archives for the Russian

00:36:13.640 secret services, he found evidence that the secret police in the 1940s under Joseph Stalin

00:36:18.340 analyzed excrement of foreign leaders, including, including Mao, as part of its effort to construct

00:36:24.260 psychological portraits.

00:36:26.560 Oh my gosh. 0.87

00:36:28.080 So he's, I mean, it's not just a crazy man. 0.52

00:36:30.820 It's a guy who studied communist dictatorships and what they do.

00:36:38.020 Glenn Beck.

00:36:40.700 10 miles from the White House at William Wirt Middle School.

00:36:45.120 It's in Riverdale, Maryland.

00:36:46.680 The MS-13 gang runs like a pack of wild...

00:36:50.780 ...people.

00:36:53.680 Dare I say, animals.

00:36:56.320 Treating the middle school like it's a...

00:37:00.020 ...well, I don't want to say a...

00:37:02.480 I should say a...

00:37:03.600 ...Salvadorian prison.

00:37:04.840 Recent article in the Washington Post focuses on the growing presence of MS-13 gang at the

00:37:12.840 school, where gang-related fights happen nearly daily now.

00:37:16.460 The overwhelmingly Hispanic school in Prince George's County throw gang signs, sell drugs, 1.00

00:37:22.100 draw gang graffiti, and aggressively recruit students recently arrived from Central America,

00:37:27.540 according to more than two dozen teachers, parents, and students.

00:37:31.880 Most of those interviewed asked not to be identified for fear of losing their job or being targeted by MS-13.

00:37:40.860 One eighth grade.

00:37:42.680 One eighth grade.

00:37:46.680 Think of this.

00:37:47.740 Eighth grade.

00:37:48.200 One eighth grader told the paper that last fall, she was raped by MS-13 members at her school,

00:37:56.640 and that she was so fearful of the repercussions that she never reported the incident.

00:38:02.860 We now have two or three fights per day, one instructor told the Washington Post.

00:38:06.940 At this point, it's completely out of control.

00:38:08.920 We're talking about middle school.

00:38:12.920 As of May 1st, the Prince George's County Police have been called to the school 74 times,

00:38:19.140 resulting in at least five arrests.

00:38:22.780 The teachers live in fear, unsure of what outbreak or violence is going to happen next.

00:38:27.820 One teacher described the school's administrator's approach to the gang violence as,

00:38:31.500 don't ask, don't talk about it.

00:38:34.320 And without metal detectors, teachers, like the students, live in fear of what awaits them next.

00:38:41.040 Teachers feel threatened but aren't backed up.

00:38:43.880 Students feel threatened and aren't protected.

00:38:47.320 That's according to one educator.

00:38:49.140 The school is a ticking time bomb.

00:38:57.280 It's Tuesday, June 12th.

00:38:59.580 You're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:39:01.960 I started reading a great book last night,

00:39:04.260 released by a friend of mine, Mike Broomhead. 1.00

00:39:09.740 If you're going to be dumb, you better be tough. 1.00

00:39:13.060 Lessons from my life of the bulls, protesters, and politicians. 1.00

00:39:16.720 Mike Broomhead, welcome to the program.

00:39:18.120 How are you?

00:39:19.100 I'm doing well, Glenn.

00:39:19.960 How are you?

00:39:20.360 Very good.

00:39:20.720 We've known each other for a very long time,

00:39:22.340 and I now know why we get along so well.

00:39:26.540 Our lives run very parallel.

00:39:29.980 In many ways.

00:39:32.140 You were a bull rider?

00:39:34.960 No. 1.00

00:39:36.020 I mean the, you know, dumb part. 0.99

00:39:40.260 Yeah. 0.99

00:39:40.880 And the...

00:39:41.840 I used to say that to me growing up.

00:39:42.920 Yeah.

00:39:43.680 That was one of the most consistent phrases.

00:39:45.160 What was that?

00:39:46.480 That was one of the most consistent things my mother said to me growing up, 1.00

00:39:49.340 is if you're going to be dumb, you better be tough, 0.99

00:39:50.900 because I was very often both. 0.99

00:39:52.300 So, what I didn't realize is that you left home at 15 years old, lived on your own,

00:40:00.360 you had an alcoholic father, you know, you were a military guy, bull rider, contractor.

00:40:08.200 You've led a really tough life, which I think gives you different kind of insight onto, you know,

00:40:18.700 what the average person might be thinking about things.

00:40:23.120 So, can I ask you about two things?

00:40:26.480 What do you think the average person thinks about what happened yesterday with North Korea?

00:40:33.820 I think the average person is impressed that an American president was able to get Kim Jong-un to sit down at the table.

00:40:41.500 I don't think the depth of politics, whether it was the agreement Bill Clinton signed in 94,

00:40:46.860 or candidate Obama saying he would sit down with him, matters to the average person.

00:40:50.520 The average person looks at a year and a half ago, this person was firing ICBMs over Japan

00:40:55.480 and threatening America, saying he was going to kill us.

00:40:58.120 And a year and a half later, he signed an agreement agreeing to denuclearize.

00:41:01.320 I think the average person just is surprised in the change in North Korea.

00:41:05.980 So, one more question on just the way things are handled.

00:41:12.300 Dennis Rodman was on TV last night, and he was crying.

00:41:16.800 And he was like, I saw this coming and nobody would listen to me.

00:41:20.180 I mean, this guy will make peace.

00:41:22.740 And I actually kind of felt, I mean, a little bit, I felt kind of bad for Dennis Rodman.

00:41:28.800 Not that I think he got that and was the reason why he went over, per se,

00:41:34.720 but he may have played a role in any kind of peace that may come our way.

00:41:41.380 Yeah, but I don't know that that was the intent of having Dennis Rodman on television.

00:41:46.360 I think that might have been the lack of seriousness that we're going to see from some of the cable news networks

00:41:50.580 and just how significant this was, instead of having a foreign policy expert on,

00:41:54.500 someone that's been invested in studying the North Koreans since the deal was made in 94

00:41:58.660 and having somebody to talk about the ultimate significance, you know,

00:42:01.860 and then no offense to Dennis Rodman, but he's wearing a pot.com t-shirt.

00:42:05.420 I know.

00:42:06.100 And I think maybe that was just what turned out to be.

00:42:08.760 I, like you, was sympathetic to Dennis Rodman,

00:42:10.560 but I think they put him on there because they don't take this seriously.

00:42:13.860 So, Mike, what is happening?

00:42:17.160 What do you foresee?

00:42:19.940 You know, you, I think the average person feels used and abused.

00:42:24.420 It's why they're, it's why we're all lashing out.

00:42:28.280 We feel like nobody's listening to us.

00:42:31.120 So what's on the horizon?

00:42:33.600 What's coming our way with media and socially?

00:42:38.340 Well, as it's interesting, I, one of the things I've learned the most

00:42:42.860 that I wrote about in the book is taking advice from good people.

00:42:45.260 And, you know, when I learned to ride bulls,

00:42:46.920 I learned from a guy that was a world champion.

00:42:48.360 I work out in the gym with a guy that was a professional bodybuilder

00:42:50.920 and credit to you that when I, I remember the first conversation I had with you,

00:42:54.980 I said, I'm in way over my head and, and you helped me along

00:42:58.780 because I wanted to go to somebody that is one of the best that's ever done it.

00:43:02.320 And I think that what lies ahead is people are seeking out truth tellers.

00:43:06.600 It's not so much about hearing what they want to hear.

00:43:09.380 They want to hear the truth.

00:43:11.020 And I think that they know the truth when they hear it.

00:43:14.120 And they know they're being lied to by people with a political agenda.

00:43:17.620 And so I think in the future, people are going to be seeking out the truth

00:43:21.120 as opposed to just the things they want to hear.

00:43:25.200 So let me ask you this. 1.00

00:43:27.400 People say that, you know, the Donald Trump people are so stupid, 1.00

00:43:31.840 they don't hear the truth. 1.00

00:43:34.240 I think they do.

00:43:35.800 I just don't think that they think the truth on the other side is any more truthful.

00:43:43.720 And so they have to pick between these two and they just believe better shot with him

00:43:49.580 than doing it the way we've always done it.

00:43:51.920 Would you agree with that or not?

00:43:53.500 No, I think that the truth is just that it's the truth.

00:43:56.480 If you and I are driving a car and you say we have to go left and I say we have to go right,

00:44:00.240 we both believe it is our truth, but only one of us can be right.

00:44:03.420 And in the end, one of us is going to be wrong.

00:44:06.400 And we have to admit when we've been wrong and we've got to seek out what the truth is.

00:44:10.200 We both want to get to the same place.

00:44:12.380 But one of us is wrong about which direction to go.

00:44:15.000 And I think what people are seeking now is they realize when you watch some of the cable

00:44:19.140 news networks with some of the people that have been outed by telling overtly wrong stories.

00:44:24.080 You know, when the president was just missed, when his words were taken out of context

00:44:27.600 and it made him sound like he called illegal immigrants animals, that's just a mischaracterization.

00:44:32.080 I think people are tired of that.

00:44:33.800 They'll be critical of Donald Trump when it's deserved, but they want to know what's really

00:44:37.340 going on and let them decide the good and the bad of it.

00:44:39.920 And I think that's what they're seeking out.

00:44:41.800 To me, well, I can only speak for myself and what I think my audience wants.

00:44:45.080 Just tell us the truth.

00:44:46.340 We will figure out the good and bad in all of it.

00:44:48.260 You know, I'm writing a book right now called Addicted to Outrage, and it is really my understanding

00:44:59.560 of what's happening to us, because I think I think people are just I think we're addicted

00:45:07.040 now to just getting online and seeing something that pisses us off.

00:45:10.900 And we're just we're just getting this adrenaline and cortisol hit, especially if we respond in

00:45:17.140 social media and and say nasty things.

00:45:21.100 You talk about your dad.

00:45:22.740 I mean, I was reading last night.

00:45:25.780 I mean, my dad didn't seem like a very nice guy, an alcoholic.

00:45:32.440 And you hold him responsible, but not responsible for your life in any way.

00:45:39.700 Right.

00:45:40.640 Absolutely.

00:45:41.320 And, you know, it's funny that a lot of a lot of the things that I write about in the

00:45:44.660 book are self-inflicted.

00:45:45.680 The fact that I was on my own, kind of on my own at 15.

00:45:48.860 And then, you know, the work I've worked my entire life.

00:45:51.020 I regret now not getting a college education.

00:45:54.160 Now that degree that, you know, to have the discipline to do the coursework, that haunts

00:45:59.220 me.

00:45:59.440 I wish I had done those things.

00:46:00.620 Those were self-inflicted.

00:46:01.800 I was so angry at the world.

00:46:03.140 I was lashing out in my own way.

00:46:04.820 But that's on me.

00:46:05.740 That's not on anybody else.

00:46:08.620 So what did you learn from your alcoholic dad that is applicable today?

00:46:13.440 I think that whatever's going on around us, we have the ability.

00:46:18.660 We have, I think we have the responsibility to live a life that is still good.

00:46:23.040 All of us have it in us.

00:46:24.460 You know, we, it's not where you, it's all the cliche.

00:46:27.080 It's not where you start.

00:46:27.880 It's where you finish.

00:46:28.620 I had people around me that loved me.

00:46:30.220 I have my brother's, the one that's surviving and is my true hero.

00:46:34.320 He's a police officer.

00:46:35.160 He is my true hero in life.

00:46:37.060 There are people in my life like you.

00:46:39.040 There are people in my life that have looked out for me in times when I had very difficult

00:46:43.020 times going on.

00:46:43.900 My mother is a saint as far as I'm concerned.

00:46:47.080 And instead of focusing on those people, I chose to focus on the anger.

00:46:50.560 I would say what I learned the most from my father was, in spite of what's going on around

00:46:54.040 you, there is good that you can reach for if you just want to reach for the good.

00:46:57.620 You see your mom's a hero, but you didn't feel that way early on.

00:47:02.640 Oh, you know, early on, my mom got smarter the older I got.

00:47:05.980 You know, early on, my mom and I, you know, when I was a teenager, when my father left,

00:47:10.360 I was just the classic rebellious teenager and was out on my own and out all night.

00:47:14.640 And she was telling me to go to school and I didn't want to go to school.

00:47:17.300 So she was the disciplinarian and I just didn't like it.

00:47:20.140 But I don't know that I'll ever live long enough to apologize to her enough for what a great

00:47:24.960 person, what a great influence she's been in my life.

00:47:26.960 Uh, talking to Mike Broomhead, author of a book just released today. 0.99

00:47:30.980 If you're going to be dumb, you better be tough. 0.99

00:47:33.960 Lessons from my life with bulls, protesters and, uh, and politicians. 1.00

00:47:37.980 You say that, uh, everybody has three things to offer the world.

00:47:43.360 What are they?

00:47:44.180 Money, talent, and time.

00:47:45.200 What?

00:47:45.980 Money, talent, and time.

00:47:47.700 And all of it to differing degrees at different times in our lives.

00:47:50.200 We have three things to offer the world and we decide how we're going to give of those

00:47:54.140 three things.

00:47:54.760 And how does that apply to me or everyday life or you or anybody?

00:48:04.020 Yeah, listen, it's funny because when I wrote that down, you were the example that I talked

00:48:08.480 about when we wrote this because, um, I've been with you.

00:48:11.500 I was, one of the things I still talk about in the air is that trip we took down to McAllen,

00:48:14.840 Texas, where the people, your audience gave so richly, uh, to help that humanitarian effort.

00:48:20.400 And I look at that.

00:48:21.060 There are times in my life where I used to complain about my busy schedule until I traveled

00:48:24.560 with you.

00:48:25.120 I'll never complain again.

00:48:26.400 Like, you know, here I am at a time in my life where I've never been as busy.

00:48:29.720 So time is very valuable to me, but I'm also making more money than I made before in my

00:48:34.640 life.

00:48:34.960 So it's different now.

00:48:35.880 I have the ability to give more money, but I wish I had more time to give.

00:48:39.780 There were times in my life where I had time to give, where I wish I had more money and

00:48:44.000 the talent that I have, my ability to go and MC for, uh, the military, you know, the Marine

00:48:49.240 Corps Scholarship Foundation Gala or the things I do locally in Arizona.

00:48:52.880 Um, I will never, I'll never take money for those things because it's my opportunity to

00:48:57.740 give back.

00:48:58.360 And I think we have to gauge where our talents lie, where our, how much money we can give.

00:49:02.620 Um, you know, if you don't have a lot, don't give a lot, but we all can give something.

00:49:06.240 And the feeling you get from giving can't be replaced.

00:49:10.060 And sometimes the problems you're facing seem to be minimal when you look at the problems

00:49:14.220 of others.

00:49:14.640 And that's one of the biggest lessons I've learned is you may not always have a lot to

00:49:18.120 give, but you have something to give.

00:49:19.680 And I hope that I balanced that well enough with those three things.

00:49:23.020 That's really something I worry about sometimes that I'm not doing enough with those three

00:49:26.620 things.

00:49:27.180 I'll tell you, Mike, when we were down in McAllen and we, we did that thing on the border,

00:49:31.160 it was not popular.

00:49:33.040 Um, and we came back, if you remember right, and we were talking about how they were separating

00:49:39.540 the kids, you know, there was, they were separating, you know, children from their brothers

00:49:44.860 and sisters and keeping them in cages and no one would listen to us. 0.78

00:49:51.120 When you saw the tweets come out a couple of, uh, a couple of weeks ago where the left

00:49:56.500 was saying, look at how Donald Trump is treating.

00:49:58.700 And they turned out to be the pictures that came out right after we were there.

00:50:03.080 How'd you feel?

00:50:04.640 Well, it came out in Arizona Republic story.

00:50:06.780 So it was a local story too.

00:50:08.080 Um, I have pictures on my phone still, and I don't know if you remember this moment, but

00:50:11.380 I remember it forever, they were giving us a tour of that facility and we went into

00:50:15.880 what was like an army tent and there was a, we pulled the curtain back and there was a

00:50:19.940 little boy that couldn't have been more than seven years old, sitting on a cot, holding

00:50:24.360 a doll, like a Woody story doll that someone had given him.

00:50:27.340 And that's where they explained to us.

00:50:28.680 This is usually where the kids break down because they're in such commotion from when

00:50:32.660 they bring them over and clean them up and give them clothes and feed them and medically

00:50:35.860 screen them.

00:50:36.320 There's so much going on.

00:50:37.540 It's when they're in solitude that they begin to realize they're all alone.

00:50:41.380 And that's still haunt me that we're a part of something so politically divided that

00:50:46.480 allows for things like this to happen.

00:50:48.640 These are people, these are children, and we will fight the political battles and not

00:50:53.900 look at the human element and which was such an eyeopening weekend to spend that time there.

00:50:59.220 I'll never forget it.

00:51:00.420 And I'm in a border state just like you are.

00:51:02.280 It's a big issue for us, but we can never forget the human element of that.

00:51:06.160 Mike Broomhead.

00:51:06.740 Thank you so much.

00:51:07.720 Um, author of the new book.

00:51:09.900 Um, it's released today. 1.00

00:51:11.820 If you're going to be dumb, you better be tough. 0.99

00:51:15.180 Uh, started reading it last night. 1.00

00:51:16.720 Really good read.

00:51:17.820 Really well done, Mike.

00:51:18.840 You should be proud of this book.

00:51:20.180 Very good.

00:51:20.680 Thank you so much.

00:51:21.400 He is one of the good guys and one of the guys that I know when I'm off track because

00:51:42.260 he's just, he hasn't forgotten where he's come from at all.

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00:53:27.880 I don't know how we're going to get it all done.

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00:53:34.080 Today on television, I'm going to use a few of the documents that you'll be able to see

00:53:39.360 based on just on Abraham Lincoln.

00:53:43.360 Tonight we're going to expose him for who he really was, you know,

00:53:47.680 because he's not the guy that you read about in history books.

00:53:50.720 Everybody says, oh, he didn't care about the slaves. 0.57

00:53:54.520 He didn't care about black people.

00:53:56.600 Or he never really read the Bible and wasn't really a religious guy. 0.87

00:54:01.900 Yeah, well, we're going to expose him for who he really is, because he's none of those things.

00:54:07.840 We expose him.

00:54:10.160 Abraham Lincoln, in his own handwriting tonight on The Blaze and all this weekend,

00:54:17.020 as part of our Rights and Responsibilities Pop-Up Museum here at the Mercury Studios.

00:54:22.760 If you don't have tickets yet, please grab your tickets.

00:54:25.580 They're on sale now.

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00:54:33.460 Also, I think it's on Thursday.

00:54:35.980 Is it Thursday or Friday?

00:54:36.940 Do you know?

00:54:37.400 Friday.

00:54:37.820 Friday night.

00:54:38.380 We're having a special, let me get it here, because I get it right.

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00:54:54.180 And a screening of Operation Toussaint, which is a documentary film about the work that Underground Railroad has done,

00:55:02.440 freeing the slaves.

00:55:03.500 I've seen this movie.

00:55:04.580 Have you seen it yet?

00:55:05.340 No.

00:55:05.580 It's, you know, sometimes, you know, people make movies and you're like, okay, no, no, no, no, no.

00:55:11.720 This director is world class.

00:55:14.060 This is unbelievable.

00:55:16.580 All of the footage from the beginning of the operations to the idea of freeing slaves,

00:55:26.020 all the way through trying to save this one kid and what's happened all the way through.

00:55:32.220 It's an unbelievable film.

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00:55:53.740 Okay.

00:55:54.340 You started the hour talking about the border and MS-13.

00:55:57.200 Yeah.

00:55:58.120 Dangerous criminal gang.

00:56:00.160 Animals.

00:56:00.740 But overblown, Glenn, as you've seen.

00:56:02.760 I mean, when the president called them animals, we all heard from the press about how, no, we're all humans.

00:56:07.720 Don't dehumanize people.

00:56:08.740 No, they are animals, but they're more like soft bunny rabbits.

00:56:11.160 And we were told over and over again that, look, MS-13, yes, it's a real thing.

00:56:16.360 Yeah.

00:56:16.620 But it's not that big of a deal.

00:56:18.160 And Donald Trump overblows it because he doesn't like Hispanics.

00:56:20.840 Right. 0.97

00:56:20.980 They killed 207 people since 2012.

00:56:24.360 Amount of people killed in school shootings, 41.

00:56:28.740 About over four times as many people killed by MS-13 than school shootings.

00:56:32.860 Why do you hate Hispanics so much?

00:56:34.340 I don't, I didn't say that at all.

00:56:35.680 Why do you hate Hispanics so much?

00:56:37.700 A friend of mine bought a house, really excited to buy it, got a really good deal on it.

00:56:42.040 And about a week after they moved in, an incredible amount of construction began all around them.

00:56:50.440 It was construction that had been planned for a long time and was sort of public knowledge in the town.

00:56:55.780 But, you know, coming from out of town, they didn't know this.

00:56:58.380 And the real estate agent apparently didn't know it either.

00:57:00.660 You need someone who's connected to the community, who knows the ins and outs of what's going on.

00:57:05.020 And, you know, I mean, construction eventually is over, but it's a real hassle for multiple years for these people.

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00:57:37.660 Well, continuing your pattern of lies, you...

00:57:43.580 I'm practically South Korea or North Korea.

00:57:45.880 There you go.

00:57:46.600 You had mentioned we were doing a little expose on Abraham Lincoln.

00:57:50.280 To show you what kind of man he really was.

00:57:53.380 Yeah.

00:57:53.620 Now, we're going with a founder this time with Thomas Paine.

00:57:57.120 It's tonight exposing Thomas Paine.

00:57:58.660 Lincoln's tomorrow?

00:57:59.720 And Lincoln tomorrow.

00:58:01.140 By the way, the exposing here, it turns out pretty well for these guys.

00:58:04.380 Yeah, it really does.

00:58:05.180 It really does.

00:58:05.860 It does.

00:58:06.260 You know who it doesn't turn out well for?

00:58:08.840 The history professors.

00:58:10.140 Yeah.

00:58:10.800 It really doesn't.

00:58:11.720 You only have the documents in their own handwriting.

00:58:14.620 Is this not one of the most amazing things that we've ever...

00:58:19.500 I mean, we've done some really amazing things.

00:58:22.040 We've witnessed, seen, talked to amazing people.

00:58:25.360 Well, I really believe these three days of exposing, first of all, Thomas Jefferson last night on the TV show.

00:58:35.740 If you missed it, you've got to see it.

00:58:37.560 It's incredible because it's the exact opposite of what you've been told for so many years.

00:58:41.860 Like, not even... 0.99

00:58:43.320 There's no way to even say, well, I can see how they suck. 0.99

00:58:47.300 There's no way. 0.99

00:58:48.620 No, over and over again.

00:58:49.260 In fact, it's not only does Thomas Jefferson dislike slavery.

00:58:53.900 He has a visceral hatred for it.

00:58:56.520 It's like the main reason he wants to break away from England.

00:58:59.460 Right.

00:58:59.900 And, you know, I did some more reading after we were off the air on this.

00:59:03.940 He wrote about that extensively, about how angry he was.

00:59:10.960 And he even said, you know, it's only those two states, but the rest of the people were weasels.

00:59:16.800 They didn't want to do it because they were afraid.

00:59:20.400 I mean, he turns out to be the real liberator, and he's the one held up as the worst slave owner of them all.

00:59:30.140 It's crazy.

00:59:31.480 So that was last night.

00:59:32.600 Tonight is Thomas Paine.

00:59:36.040 What's amazing to me is holding these documents written in their own hand.

00:59:45.380 Now, they say Thomas Paine was an atheist.

00:59:48.780 No, he wasn't.

00:59:50.460 No, he wasn't.

00:59:52.440 He wasn't a Christian, but he wrote The Age of Reason.

00:59:56.840 If you learned about The Age of Reason that Thomas Paine was an atheist, etc., etc., did you ever hear why he wrote Age of Reason?

01:00:06.620 When you read why he wrote it, it kind of takes on a whole different purpose.

01:00:13.980 In fact, completely dismantles his M.O. of he was an atheist.

01:00:20.840 No.

01:00:22.680 No, he wasn't.

01:00:24.900 And I think you're going to like him even more when you hear his reason.

01:00:29.700 Anyway, that's tonight.

01:00:32.260 And by the way, all of these documents, all in their own handwriting, they're going to be seen, some of them, for the first time in a very long time, at the Mercury Museum this weekend.

01:00:44.300 Grab your tickets now online at mercuryone.org slash museum2018.

01:00:49.760 Grab your tickets, and we'll see you here this weekend.

01:00:52.620 You know, one of the other things that we're so bad at history that we have no idea about Korea.

01:01:03.940 We have no idea North and South Korea and what they've been going through and what they really are like.

01:01:13.620 Oh, anybody could have had a meeting.

01:01:16.840 Really?

01:01:17.400 Let me take you back in history and show you where we were not too long ago.

01:01:28.940 It was bitterly cold.

01:01:31.520 But the men of Unit 124 had been trained to ignore the pain, and they were good at it.

01:01:37.360 One of their exercises had been to run four miles in sub-zero temperatures, after all.

01:01:42.440 With little regard to their frozen limbs, the men snuck past the U.S. guards along one of the most heavily guarded borders on Earth and into South Korea.

01:01:54.080 After traversing rugged mountainsides undetected, they set up camp in a forested area roughly 30 miles from Seoul.

01:02:03.660 Their mission was direct and clear.

01:02:06.520 The men thought that they were sufficiently isolated until they heard four frantic voices.

01:02:16.520 Four brothers were prowling around for firewood, and they found themselves in absolutely the wrong place at absolutely the wrong time.

01:02:24.440 The commandos considered their options.

01:02:27.080 They didn't kill the four brothers, partly because the frozen ground would have been digging their graves an arduous task.

01:02:35.780 Instead, they lectured the brothers on the merits of communism.

01:02:39.620 When the brothers feigned allegiance to North Korea, the commandos let them go.

01:02:45.820 They promptly alerted police.

01:02:49.080 By the time police and military had begun hunting for them, Unit 124 had already vanished.

01:02:56.140 They were able to evade capture for two days, and on January 21, 1968, they reached the home of the president, the Blue House.

01:03:05.720 About 10 p.m., wearing South Korean military garb, the men outfoxed the security officers guarding the building.

01:03:14.160 They were within 100 yards of the Blue House when a sentry finally spotted them.

01:03:19.820 The palace grounds erupted in gunfire.

01:03:21.960 The commandos fled in all directions, chased by soldiers.

01:03:25.700 The fight bled into the streets of Seoul, and at the end of the night, over two dozen South Koreans died, including civilians.

01:03:33.900 The South Korean army hunted the men for three days, killing off as many as they could.

01:03:39.940 In total, 29 of the unit's 31 soldiers were killed.

01:03:45.180 The South Korean president, understandably, was furious, and it was time to retaliate.

01:03:52.420 Enter our story, South Korean Unit 684.

01:03:58.600 In response to the assassination attempt, the South Korean government organized Unit 684, and the men were advised to kill the leader of North Korea.

01:04:10.840 Unit 684 was intentionally modeled after Unit 124, the North Korean assassination squad.

01:04:17.740 That squad had 31 members, and so did Unit 684.

01:04:21.600 They were trained to survive a little frostbite here and there, because nothing could stop them from their assassination mission.

01:04:31.720 But unlike the decorated soldiers of the North Korean squad, the men of Unit 684 had little to no military experience.

01:04:41.120 Some sources claim that the men were plucked from death row and offered a chance at redemption.

01:04:46.920 Others claim that the men were vagrants and acrobats.

01:04:49.900 One of the guards described the men as, quote,

01:04:53.360 The kind who would get into street fights a lot, end quote.

01:04:58.280 The training regimen was outlandishly cruel, and seven men died.

01:05:04.840 At least one from just sheer exhaustion.

01:05:07.900 Four of them attempted to escape the island they were on because they were frustrated with the beatings, the killings, and the poor conditions in the unit,

01:05:16.540 And apparently wanted to alert authorities to their plight.

01:05:20.560 All four were beaten to death.

01:05:24.680 Meanwhile, unbeknownst to the men, tensions between the Koreas had been easing.

01:05:30.420 By 1971, a mutual frustration with the U.S. brought warming relations between the Koreas.

01:05:36.800 So, Unit 684 was rendered useless.

01:05:42.840 Well, these men were not happy.

01:05:45.180 Not happy at all that the mission they had trained for, for over three years, had suddenly been canceled.

01:05:51.300 They still wanted blood.

01:05:53.260 But now they just didn't care whose blood it was.

01:05:55.640 At 6 a.m. the next morning, the recruits ventured out into the sable black morning of winter under a waxing crescent.

01:06:06.640 They murdered the first trainer while he was asleep, with a swift hammer to the skull.

01:06:13.000 Next, they stole guns and ammo, and using their perfected skills, started slaughtering the trainers,

01:06:20.420 most of whom were still drunk or hungover from the night before.

01:06:24.020 In total, the recruits killed 18 guards.

01:06:28.240 Only six survived.

01:06:30.840 Satisfied with their bloodthirst, Unit 684 cleaned the blood from their bodies

01:06:36.940 and carefully dressed in their immaculate uniforms, because they were going home.

01:06:44.420 They loaded up a stolen bus with a cache of machine guns, knives, and grenades,

01:06:50.100 and made their way towards South Seoul.

01:06:52.640 The commandos could almost see their houses when they were met by a police blockade.

01:06:59.460 Trapped on the bus, it was hopeless.

01:07:02.200 But giving up was not an option for Unit 684.

01:07:06.180 Instead, the men clenched grenades and, in unison, yanked the pins.

01:07:10.980 The blast turned the bus' windows into flying specks, and the stench was nauseating, especially in the heat.

01:07:19.440 The men were scattered in bits and pieces everywhere.

01:07:23.820 Somehow or another, four of the men still survived.

01:07:29.820 But not for long.

01:07:31.520 Military police yanked them off the bus on stretchers and then imprisoned them.

01:07:36.820 They were executed by firing squad and then buried secretly in the hills outside of Seoul.

01:07:41.840 Their bodies have never been found.

01:07:44.460 In fact, South Korea only recently acknowledged Unit 684's existence.

01:07:50.800 In 2010, the Seoul Central District Court ruled that the family of Unit 684's recruits

01:07:57.020 were entitled to hundreds of thousands of dollars in damages.

01:08:00.400 North Korea usually comes to mind when we think of a country killing its own citizens. 0.85

01:08:08.740 But the Shil-Mido uprising is an exception. 0.99

01:08:13.900 In the Iliad, Homer depicts Ares, the god of war, as a curse on mankind.

01:08:22.780 A kind of supernatural serial killer. 0.78

01:08:24.980 In general, the Greeks loathed Ares, often depicting him as a whiny, cowardly, and strange beast. 0.85

01:08:33.120 The Romans, however, fawned over Mars, the Roman incarnation of the god of war. 0.83

01:08:39.320 Majestic, smooth, invincible.

01:08:42.420 Often clad in gilded armor as he led men into the battlefield,

01:08:46.480 his very presence making it a field of renown.

01:08:49.760 The story of Unit 684 contains both versions of the mythical god of war.

01:08:58.000 From one angle, the squabbling, bloated, diplomatic mechanisms of war

01:09:02.900 directly caused the death of untold numbers of men and women.

01:09:08.280 War made the Koreas petty. 0.87

01:09:10.760 They schemed, and in their cowardice, both sides plotted assassins,

01:09:17.060 only to recoil at the last moment.

01:09:21.220 From the other angle, heroism came to life through a band of criminals and misfits,

01:09:27.800 and however misguided, cast a gleaming light over the battlefield as they died.

01:09:33.460 Yet, in reality, neither version leaves any survivors.

01:09:47.260 By the way, you can share that story.

01:09:50.120 It'll be posted at glenbeck.com,

01:09:52.380 and we'll try to send it out on our newsletter or at theblaze.com as well.

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01:09:57.880 It's a story that will have you on Google,

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01:11:25.300 Just looking at Ben Shapiro's opinion on what happened yesterday.

01:11:35.460 And even, who was it that said that he should be,

01:11:40.500 we would be crying for impeachment if this was Obama.

01:11:43.140 That was Eric Erickson.

01:11:44.080 Eric Erickson.

01:11:44.560 I was thinking about this a little bit on the drive-in today in that

01:11:47.800 let's start with something that we can all absolutely 100% agree on

01:11:51.740 in this audience at least.

01:11:53.760 That if Barack Obama did exactly what Donald Trump did,

01:11:57.600 the media and the left would be praising it.

01:12:00.020 Yes.

01:12:00.740 Can we all agree that 100%

01:12:03.000 they would be absolutely in favor of it and praising it endlessly?

01:12:09.200 100%.

01:12:09.720 I think, however, when you say that, and that's very true,

01:12:13.340 you have to also ask yourself the same question.

01:12:17.060 We would be pummeling him.

01:12:18.780 I do.

01:12:19.500 And I honestly, like, I say this as an admission.

01:12:22.180 I honestly think I probably would be

01:12:25.200 really pissed off at Barack Obama if he did exactly the same thing.

01:12:30.140 I've really thought about this a lot

01:12:32.020 because I don't like to be inconsistent.

01:12:34.240 And I think you're right.

01:12:35.240 I think we would have been very upset.

01:12:38.280 However, I really, truly believe it's because

01:12:43.160 it's the same thing with executive orders.

01:12:48.220 Notice nobody on the left had a problem with a single executive order.

01:12:51.220 No.

01:12:51.760 Now they're all up in arms about anything this president does.

01:12:55.440 The Constitution!

01:12:56.900 Excuse me?

01:12:58.700 Why is that?

01:13:00.020 Because they trusted the last president.

01:13:02.680 They trust their guy.

01:13:03.920 Right.

01:13:04.420 They don't trust the other.

01:13:07.440 Same with us.

01:13:08.800 We didn't trust the other side, but we trust our guy.

01:13:12.700 And so we make these exceptions.

01:13:15.900 Well, that doesn't make any sense.

01:13:17.320 That's not reason.

01:13:18.520 That's not reason.

01:13:19.220 That's team sports.

01:13:20.820 And this one is pretty provable in that, you know,

01:13:24.300 Barack, we beat up Barack Obama

01:13:26.340 on just his claim that he would talk to dictators.

01:13:32.240 But I think, and I know you don't agree.

01:13:35.180 Just the claim of speaking.

01:13:35.920 I know.

01:13:36.340 I know you don't agree with me on this,

01:13:38.280 but I really, truly believe it's because

01:13:41.300 half of the country saw Barack Obama

01:13:46.100 as somebody who did not like America.

01:13:50.400 Didn't like America.

01:13:51.460 Yeah, no, I do agree with that.

01:13:53.280 Was to fundamentally transform it.

01:13:55.620 Exactly.

01:13:56.600 Doesn't like it.

01:13:57.600 Thinks that we were the aggressors of the world.

01:14:00.020 Thinks that we've done all these horrible things.

01:14:02.240 That, that group of people,

01:14:05.620 they don't feel that way about Donald Trump.

01:14:08.800 They don't feel that he hates America,

01:14:11.740 that he, you know,

01:14:13.500 thinks that we're the horrible aggressors

01:14:15.440 throughout history that needs to be corrected.

01:14:17.700 To me, that's the biggest difference.

01:14:20.000 Glenn, back.

01:14:22.180 Well, it's been years since you've exercised,

01:14:25.460 actually exercised,

01:14:26.720 your constitutional right to vote.

01:14:28.520 Well, many,

01:14:32.060 many people have done this,

01:14:35.140 especially in Ohio.

01:14:37.080 So the question is,

01:14:38.240 does the state have the right to clear your name

01:14:41.020 from its voter registration role

01:14:42.480 because you haven't voted in years?

01:14:46.700 According to the Supreme Court

01:14:48.040 in a 5-4 decision yesterday,

01:14:49.540 the answer is yes.

01:14:51.800 Five conservative-leaning judges on the court

01:14:54.060 ruled in this case

01:14:55.040 that Ohio's practice of purging infrequent voters

01:14:58.300 does not violate federal law.

01:15:02.060 Ohio says the policy is needed

01:15:04.260 to keep the voting rolls current

01:15:06.680 by removing people who have died or moved away.

01:15:09.760 Now, that makes total sense.

01:15:10.980 But how does the left view this?

01:15:14.760 The same way the left usually sees things,

01:15:17.080 you know, in American life now,

01:15:19.220 through the outrage lens of minority oppression.

01:15:22.780 Sonia Sotomayor said

01:15:23.900 the ruling endorses disenfranchisement

01:15:25.780 of minority and low-income Americans.

01:15:28.560 How?

01:15:29.740 How?

01:15:31.700 How?

01:15:33.360 Top Democrats say

01:15:34.940 this decision will give a boost

01:15:36.400 to Republican voter suppression efforts.

01:15:38.480 Again, how?

01:15:39.300 Democrats who know their own history

01:15:43.800 will remember

01:15:44.360 that the Democratic Party

01:15:46.140 invented voter suppression

01:15:47.900 after the Civil War

01:15:49.580 with the KKK,

01:15:51.300 when the Klan was roaming the South,

01:15:54.060 intimidating, attacking, 0.99

01:15:55.200 and frequently killing black voters. 1.00

01:15:57.720 The Ohio policy is not that. 0.98

01:16:00.920 It's not harsh.

01:16:03.100 Here's what it is.

01:16:04.500 If you don't vote for two years,

01:16:06.900 you get a registration confirmation.

01:16:09.300 notice in the mail.

01:16:10.800 Then, if you don't reply to the notice

01:16:13.740 and you still don't vote

01:16:16.420 four years in a row,

01:16:18.700 then you're purged for the system.

01:16:21.800 You have a six-year window

01:16:24.540 to make sure that your registration

01:16:26.480 is current

01:16:27.380 or just show up to vote.

01:16:29.540 In many parts of the world,

01:16:32.280 that would be considered

01:16:33.260 pretty generous.

01:16:35.700 Now, clearly,

01:16:36.560 more people need to vote in Ohio.

01:16:39.060 And if Ohio has this problem,

01:16:40.780 you can pretty much bet

01:16:41.860 every other state has it as well.

01:16:44.600 We need

01:16:45.700 and must have

01:16:47.300 elections

01:16:48.420 that have integrity.

01:16:51.100 Yet, for some reason,

01:16:52.640 and I think we all know why,

01:16:54.000 the left

01:16:54.600 just can't

01:16:55.600 take that.

01:16:57.160 They can't take

01:16:58.020 voter ID laws,

01:16:59.160 which say that,

01:17:00.060 you know,

01:17:00.620 they target minorities.

01:17:01.780 Why?

01:17:02.620 Because they say

01:17:03.380 you have to have an ID?

01:17:05.400 The poor

01:17:06.360 don't have access

01:17:08.340 to ID?

01:17:10.380 Really?

01:17:12.560 These kinds of laws

01:17:13.840 are also unfairly

01:17:15.240 targeting

01:17:16.200 dead people. 0.96

01:17:17.840 See, that's

01:17:19.220 the real problem here.

01:17:21.400 Let's face it.

01:17:24.400 Dead people

01:17:25.240 are still people.

01:17:27.440 And, you know,

01:17:28.480 one party

01:17:29.440 has been

01:17:30.000 known

01:17:31.040 to really court

01:17:32.600 that dead

01:17:33.680 voter

01:17:35.800 for a very,

01:17:37.040 very long time.

01:17:41.820 It's Tuesday,

01:17:42.940 June 12th.

01:17:43.980 You're listening

01:17:44.700 to the Glenn Beck Program.

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01:18:00.560 Dinesh,

01:18:01.060 welcome to the program.

01:18:03.260 Glenn,

01:18:03.780 great to be on the show

01:18:04.580 as always.

01:18:05.160 Thank you.

01:18:05.600 So, first of all,

01:18:06.260 let's get your thoughts

01:18:07.840 on what happened

01:18:08.900 in North Korea

01:18:09.580 last night

01:18:10.680 or Singapore.

01:18:12.320 Glenn,

01:18:12.820 I think it's

01:18:14.820 an historic

01:18:15.860 opening.

01:18:18.180 It opens

01:18:18.820 the possibility

01:18:19.540 of a thaw.

01:18:21.240 Now,

01:18:21.700 these opportunities

01:18:22.560 are very rare.

01:18:24.660 The last time

01:18:25.300 it happened

01:18:25.740 was Gorbachev,

01:18:27.700 the Soviet Union,

01:18:29.020 the evil empire,

01:18:30.360 and then suddenly

01:18:31.140 they appointed

01:18:31.740 a leader

01:18:32.180 who seemed open

01:18:33.100 to being influenced

01:18:34.320 and to changing,

01:18:35.840 and we saw

01:18:36.500 the remarkable

01:18:37.180 succession of events.

01:18:38.540 It really began

01:18:39.360 with the intermediate

01:18:40.420 nuclear forces treaty

01:18:41.980 in 1987,

01:18:43.180 but then later

01:18:43.980 the whole dissolution

01:18:44.980 of the Soviet regime

01:18:46.080 and so on,

01:18:46.920 and ultimately

01:18:47.540 Gorbachev himself

01:18:48.540 coming to Reagan's funeral

01:18:50.000 and kissing his casket.

01:18:51.680 So,

01:18:52.320 now,

01:18:53.100 these historical opportunities

01:18:54.300 are sometimes

01:18:54.980 the result of luck,

01:18:56.500 but it takes a leader

01:18:57.980 to seize the moment,

01:18:59.340 to be able to take

01:19:00.140 advantage of the luck,

01:19:01.800 to be able to make

01:19:02.840 the most of it,

01:19:04.140 and I think

01:19:04.780 with Trump

01:19:05.300 we're seeing,

01:19:05.940 you know,

01:19:06.180 a contrast

01:19:06.680 from Obama's

01:19:07.860 kind of lead

01:19:08.460 from behind.

01:19:09.720 Trump is like

01:19:10.440 in front of it.

01:19:11.220 He's grabbing the bull

01:19:12.020 by the horns.

01:19:12.900 He's very impressive.

01:19:14.580 So,

01:19:14.760 because you're

01:19:15.960 a really logical guy,

01:19:17.580 help solve two things

01:19:19.220 for the media mainly

01:19:20.920 and some people

01:19:22.000 who are having

01:19:22.420 a problem with this.

01:19:23.520 First,

01:19:24.120 what's the difference

01:19:24.880 between what he just did

01:19:26.720 and what Obama did

01:19:29.240 with Cuba?

01:19:32.360 Well,

01:19:33.000 the difference is this.

01:19:34.580 Well,

01:19:35.040 first of all,

01:19:35.580 there is an old joke

01:19:36.600 that goes,

01:19:37.360 what do you call

01:19:38.860 a dictator

01:19:41.100 who has nuclear weapons?

01:19:43.760 And the punchline is,

01:19:45.280 sir.

01:19:46.220 The point being that

01:19:47.600 once a dictator

01:19:48.500 gets his hands on nukes,

01:19:50.380 he becomes exponentially

01:19:52.420 more dangerous

01:19:53.280 than a routine

01:19:55.180 garden variety dictator.

01:19:56.460 So,

01:19:56.740 in other words,

01:19:57.520 peace in the Korean peninsula

01:19:59.960 is not ultimately ideological.

01:20:02.580 It's ultimately about

01:20:03.820 getting rid of these nukes

01:20:05.780 and just having,

01:20:07.080 you know,

01:20:07.500 a sort of modus vivendi

01:20:08.920 where we can kind of

01:20:09.700 all inhabit this planet together.

01:20:11.700 That's the key difference.

01:20:13.480 In the case of Cuba,

01:20:14.880 Obama seems to have had

01:20:15.860 an ideological affinity

01:20:17.220 for Cuba.

01:20:18.660 He didn't like Cuba

01:20:20.000 being sort of ostracized

01:20:21.500 in the community of nations.

01:20:23.200 None of that is an issue here.

01:20:24.240 No one thinks that Trump

01:20:25.100 secretly admires

01:20:26.240 North Korean society.

01:20:27.960 We're simply trying to

01:20:29.000 keep a very bad guy

01:20:30.740 from having nuclear guns

01:20:32.760 in his holster.

01:20:33.620 Okay,

01:20:33.860 so I agree with you

01:20:35.280 100%.

01:20:36.220 Here is where

01:20:37.640 some will have issue.

01:20:42.100 South Korea

01:20:42.920 was a nuclear power

01:20:44.700 or North Korea

01:20:46.780 was a nuclear power

01:20:48.020 in 2006.

01:20:49.780 Obama,

01:20:50.400 when he was running

01:20:51.160 the first time,

01:20:52.000 he said,

01:20:52.680 I'll meet with him.

01:20:53.560 Why not meet with him?

01:20:54.700 We've got to make sure

01:20:55.720 that, you know,

01:20:56.200 this doesn't happen.

01:20:57.380 And all of us,

01:20:58.700 you know,

01:20:59.040 just pilloried him

01:21:00.000 for that.

01:21:01.300 What's the difference there?

01:21:02.720 Well, the difference there

01:21:05.800 is, you know,

01:21:06.580 I think at the end

01:21:07.340 of the day,

01:21:08.200 it's something of a paradox

01:21:09.900 of American leadership

01:21:11.240 that it takes a Nixon

01:21:12.460 to go to China.

01:21:14.220 It takes a Reagan

01:21:15.080 to deal with Gorbachev.

01:21:17.700 If the Democrats

01:21:18.540 had been dealing

01:21:19.140 with Gorbachev,

01:21:19.960 it would have been

01:21:20.460 interpreted as weakness.

01:21:21.760 And in fact,

01:21:22.300 it probably because

01:21:23.100 it would be weakness.

01:21:24.860 But with Reagan,

01:21:26.140 you remember that

01:21:27.000 in the first term,

01:21:28.060 Reagan was very tough

01:21:29.120 on the Soviets.

01:21:30.120 Massive military buildup,

01:21:32.320 MX missiles,

01:21:33.800 strategic defense,

01:21:35.640 you know,

01:21:36.000 the supporting of insurgencies

01:21:37.500 around the world.

01:21:38.480 It was only in the second term

01:21:40.000 that Reagan sort of pivoted 1.00

01:21:41.200 and said,

01:21:41.600 OK,

01:21:42.160 now that you guys

01:21:43.160 are willing to bend,

01:21:44.580 I'll bend with you

01:21:45.840 to make this happen.

01:21:47.000 I think that's

01:21:47.580 what we're seeing here.

01:21:48.300 Notice that in miniature,

01:21:49.480 it replicates

01:21:50.120 what happened here.

01:21:51.100 Trump begins

01:21:51.700 by blasting North Korea, 0.74

01:21:53.700 threatening to take them 0.87

01:21:54.580 off the map,

01:21:55.380 claiming he has

01:21:55.900 bigger nuclear weapons

01:21:57.000 than they do.

01:21:57.680 And then later,

01:21:59.300 he bends

01:21:59.960 when he sees that

01:22:01.140 there is an opening

01:22:02.080 and an opening

01:22:02.820 that he can take advantage of.

01:22:04.420 So, Dinesh,

01:22:05.260 switch subjects.

01:22:06.460 A couple of weeks ago,

01:22:07.240 by the way,

01:22:07.580 we're talking to Dinesh D'Souza.

01:22:09.180 He's got a new movie

01:22:10.100 coming out,

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01:22:13.040 a Second Time?

01:22:14.320 It opens in theaters

01:22:15.340 Friday, August 3rd,

01:22:17.000 deathofanationmovie.com.

01:22:20.000 A couple of weeks ago,

01:22:22.020 you were pardoned

01:22:23.540 by the President

01:22:24.300 of the United States.

01:22:26.180 A, did you know

01:22:27.140 that was coming

01:22:27.900 and how did that

01:22:28.900 come about?

01:22:31.120 Well, my wife and I

01:22:33.000 had dinner with

01:22:33.680 Senator Ted Cruz

01:22:34.620 a month earlier

01:22:35.740 and Senator Cruz said,

01:22:37.560 I am going to ask

01:22:39.540 President Trump

01:22:40.280 directly to pardon you.

01:22:42.760 But I was not

01:22:44.000 very optimistic

01:22:44.700 because I thought,

01:22:46.120 well, you ran against

01:22:46.980 the guy

01:22:47.400 and there was a lot of,

01:22:48.240 there was some bad blood,

01:22:49.340 so I don't know

01:22:50.080 if this is going to work.

01:22:51.380 But Cruz called me

01:22:52.460 a couple of weeks later

01:22:53.380 and said,

01:22:53.820 I spoke to the President

01:22:54.820 and he's very receptive,

01:22:56.460 but there's a legal review,

01:22:58.160 it's a complicated process,

01:22:59.360 do not breathe a word

01:23:00.820 of this until you get

01:23:01.980 the official call

01:23:03.260 from the White House.

01:23:04.620 And then last week,

01:23:05.640 Glenn, wow,

01:23:06.440 I'm in my office working

01:23:07.740 and the call came,

01:23:08.960 the White House operator

01:23:09.900 pulled the line

01:23:10.840 for the President

01:23:11.460 of the United States.

01:23:13.640 What is that like

01:23:15.160 to be pardoned?

01:23:19.360 It's huge.

01:23:20.300 I mean, you know,

01:23:21.020 there are all kinds

01:23:21.720 of small benefits of it.

01:23:22.960 I don't have to ask a judge

01:23:24.360 for permission to travel.

01:23:26.080 I don't have

01:23:26.620 a probation officer

01:23:27.720 who like makes me

01:23:29.000 fill out forms every week

01:23:30.280 and comes to visit my house.

01:23:31.980 I can vote again.

01:23:33.340 I can own a firearm

01:23:34.320 if I want to.

01:23:35.560 But I think most importantly,

01:23:36.980 it lifts the felon label

01:23:39.840 from my neck,

01:23:40.800 which the left

01:23:41.660 had been sort of,

01:23:42.480 you know,

01:23:43.140 accusing me of.

01:23:44.280 And more importantly,

01:23:45.320 it's kind of a big

01:23:46.440 up yours to Obama.

01:23:47.660 I mean,

01:23:48.340 Trump has been erasing

01:23:49.480 Obama's legacy

01:23:50.440 across the board

01:23:51.320 and now even

01:23:51.880 this little smudge

01:23:52.780 has been taken away.

01:23:54.100 So what do you think about,

01:23:55.460 because I am so for

01:23:57.520 the use of,

01:23:59.680 I mean,

01:23:59.880 he has a constitutional

01:24:00.560 right to do this

01:24:01.680 any day,

01:24:03.060 all day,

01:24:03.940 every day.

01:24:05.360 And I'm for it

01:24:06.940 if we're not

01:24:09.220 becoming a country

01:24:10.800 that can,

01:24:12.080 if you know somebody,

01:24:13.240 you can get

01:24:13.680 a special favor.

01:24:15.220 He is starting to,

01:24:17.620 you know,

01:24:18.420 apparently he's got

01:24:19.300 thousands of people

01:24:20.200 he wants to pardon.

01:24:22.080 And I understand

01:24:23.200 that Jared

01:24:23.840 is the one

01:24:24.800 that's actually

01:24:25.300 kind of behind this

01:24:26.200 and they're working

01:24:26.960 on prison reform

01:24:28.700 and sentence reform.

01:24:31.500 Do you think

01:24:32.340 the president

01:24:32.840 should also

01:24:33.800 make sure

01:24:35.140 that anybody

01:24:35.940 that was in your situation

01:24:37.460 that this just

01:24:38.160 doesn't happen again?

01:24:40.660 Well,

01:24:41.320 I think in my case,

01:24:42.920 the truth of it

01:24:44.120 is that

01:24:44.640 there is nobody

01:24:45.440 who's in my situation

01:24:46.700 for the reason

01:24:47.360 that I was

01:24:48.020 in fact singled out.

01:24:49.560 Look,

01:24:50.040 there is no case

01:24:51.520 in American history

01:24:52.500 of a guy

01:24:53.300 who gave 20 grand

01:24:54.860 over the campaign

01:24:55.760 finance limit

01:24:56.640 without corruption.

01:24:57.820 In other words,

01:24:58.200 without trying

01:24:59.060 to buy a favor

01:25:00.040 or get a tax break

01:25:01.260 or some quid pro quo.

01:25:02.460 There's no other example

01:25:03.680 of somebody

01:25:04.200 who got locked up

01:25:05.080 for doing that.

01:25:05.860 They don't even

01:25:06.360 prosecute those cases.

01:25:08.120 Look at Rosie. 0.77

01:25:08.920 She just admitted,

01:25:10.060 Rosie O'Donnell did, 0.62

01:25:11.320 to exceeding the campaign

01:25:12.360 finance law five times

01:25:13.880 in five different jurisdictions.

01:25:15.320 And she really knew.

01:25:18.600 She knew it.

01:25:19.820 Did that bother you at all?

01:25:21.960 Well,

01:25:22.400 the reason she knew it

01:25:23.440 is because she used 1.00

01:25:25.060 four different spellings

01:25:26.720 of her name

01:25:27.560 and five different addresses.

01:25:30.300 So clearly she was,

01:25:32.000 you know,

01:25:32.240 but look,

01:25:32.640 I think the reason

01:25:33.420 that this crime

01:25:34.180 is not prosecuted typically

01:25:35.660 or in other words,

01:25:36.920 is treated as a slap

01:25:38.360 on the wrist

01:25:38.840 and a fine

01:25:39.420 is that again,

01:25:40.640 even with Rosie,

01:25:41.920 she's not trying

01:25:42.720 to get anything out of it.

01:25:44.120 She's just,

01:25:44.660 you know,

01:25:45.260 motivated by hatred

01:25:46.300 of Trump

01:25:46.860 and leftist enthusiasm

01:25:48.040 and she wants 0.90

01:25:48.960 to defeat Roy Moore

01:25:50.300 in Alabama.

01:25:51.400 So she goes over the limit.

01:25:52.920 But again,

01:25:53.540 typically these crimes

01:25:54.600 are basically,

01:25:55.180 they look the other way.

01:25:57.040 But in my case,

01:25:58.680 you know,

01:25:59.020 it took some very powerful people,

01:26:01.200 Obama,

01:26:01.880 Holder,

01:26:02.460 Freed Bharara, 0.95

01:26:03.160 to get me

01:26:03.720 and naturally

01:26:04.680 it required

01:26:05.200 some powerful people

01:26:06.080 to get me off.

01:26:07.520 Dinesh,

01:26:08.040 a lot of people

01:26:08.600 were critical of Trump

01:26:10.520 if they were

01:26:11.160 on your part

01:26:11.980 in saying that

01:26:12.660 because you're

01:26:13.220 a political ally,

01:26:14.260 that's why

01:26:14.620 he pardoned you.

01:26:15.640 But in reality,

01:26:16.720 these laws are,

01:26:18.480 in my eye,

01:26:19.780 blatantly unconstitutional.

01:26:21.620 I mean,

01:26:21.840 completely against

01:26:22.820 the First Amendment.

01:26:23.740 Really what the First Amendment

01:26:24.640 was designed to do

01:26:25.520 was be able to

01:26:26.200 speak your mind politically

01:26:27.340 and to use your money

01:26:28.300 however you want

01:26:28.900 to use your money.

01:26:29.900 And so I think

01:26:30.700 if he looks at this

01:26:31.800 as not just

01:26:32.900 Dinesh D'Souza's ally,

01:26:33.820 but this is

01:26:35.000 an unconstitutional law

01:26:36.200 and my pardon power

01:26:37.440 is well used

01:26:38.620 to overturn

01:26:39.600 convictions

01:26:40.520 in an unconstitutional law.

01:26:42.280 Is that how you think

01:26:43.200 he looked at it?

01:26:44.780 Well,

01:26:45.340 I think he looked at it

01:26:46.660 not even like that,

01:26:47.740 but I think he looked at it

01:26:48.720 like,

01:26:49.260 look,

01:26:49.540 we have seen

01:26:50.180 a kind of

01:26:50.760 gangsterization

01:26:51.560 of the government

01:26:52.220 under Obama,

01:26:53.500 the deployment

01:26:54.080 of the weapons

01:26:54.720 of the state

01:26:55.420 against opponents.

01:26:57.640 As Trump himself

01:26:58.480 said to me,

01:26:59.120 he goes,

01:26:59.500 he goes,

01:27:00.040 man to man,

01:27:00.740 he goes, 1.00

01:27:01.100 you got screwed. 1.00

01:27:02.360 He goes, 1.00

01:27:02.600 you should have got,

01:27:03.040 it was a technical violation.

01:27:04.860 He goes,

01:27:05.560 but those people,

01:27:06.460 meaning the Obama people,

01:27:07.520 went after you

01:27:08.260 with everything they got.

01:27:09.620 And then he basically said,

01:27:10.720 I got the power

01:27:11.420 to fix it

01:27:12.000 and I'm going to.

01:27:13.000 So I'm going to give you

01:27:13.640 a full pardon

01:27:14.280 in the morning

01:27:14.820 and it's going to

01:27:16.100 clear your record

01:27:16.880 and just go out

01:27:17.820 and be a great champion

01:27:18.840 of freedom

01:27:19.460 and of America.

01:27:20.700 And that's how he left it.

01:27:22.540 So Dinesh,

01:27:23.300 you said that there was

01:27:24.340 a great process

01:27:25.140 he had to go through

01:27:25.840 or he had to go through

01:27:26.820 or the government has to.

01:27:27.880 So he can't just wake up

01:27:29.160 one morning and go,

01:27:30.340 I want to pardon him.

01:27:31.340 Well,

01:27:33.220 actually he can,

01:27:34.260 but the process I think

01:27:35.280 is merely that

01:27:36.100 the White House counsel

01:27:37.140 will go look at the case.

01:27:38.780 You know,

01:27:38.900 they obviously want to make sure

01:27:40.080 that I don't have bodies

01:27:40.940 in my refrigerator.

01:27:41.760 That's something

01:27:42.260 that they've missed.

01:27:43.340 They don't want it

01:27:44.000 to become an embarrassment

01:27:44.940 because of something

01:27:45.640 they didn't know.

01:27:46.420 So it took about

01:27:47.140 a 30-day review

01:27:48.080 to make sure

01:27:48.720 that I was sort of kosher

01:27:49.960 and then Trump

01:27:51.320 went ahead

01:27:51.940 with his original instinct

01:27:53.060 and signed the pardon.

01:27:53.980 Let me just pretend

01:27:54.920 that I was on CNN

01:27:55.840 and respond.

01:27:56.980 So you're alleging

01:27:58.500 that you don't have

01:27:59.860 heads in your refrigerator.

01:28:02.640 I just...

01:28:03.820 Yeah,

01:28:04.380 in fact,

01:28:04.700 Newsweek,

01:28:05.460 they literally had

01:28:06.680 an article titled,

01:28:08.000 Dinesh D'Souza claims

01:28:08.980 he's not Jeffrey Dahmer.

01:28:10.400 Oh my gosh.

01:28:10.880 You know,

01:28:11.220 claims.

01:28:11.820 That's my defense.

01:28:12.600 Right.

01:28:13.560 So tell us about the movie

01:28:14.780 that comes out

01:28:15.340 August 3rd.

01:28:17.700 The movie explores

01:28:19.180 two big themes.

01:28:20.800 One is fascism

01:28:22.280 and the other

01:28:23.140 is white supremacy.

01:28:24.900 Now,

01:28:25.220 as you know,

01:28:26.100 these are the two

01:28:26.920 incendiary accusations

01:28:28.420 that are made

01:28:29.140 not just against Trump,

01:28:30.720 but against the right,

01:28:32.100 against conservatives.

01:28:32.920 The whole notion

01:28:33.780 that fascism

01:28:34.500 is on the right,

01:28:35.560 I mean,

01:28:35.820 I learned that

01:28:36.540 in college at Dartmouth.

01:28:37.800 That was in all my textbooks.

01:28:39.380 That's on the History Channel.

01:28:40.840 So it's part of our

01:28:41.640 conventional wisdom

01:28:42.560 and so what we do

01:28:43.720 in this movie is

01:28:44.560 we start with current events,

01:28:46.260 but we also do

01:28:47.180 our deep dive

01:28:48.120 into history

01:28:48.720 where we explore

01:28:49.500 the true meaning

01:28:50.300 of fascism

01:28:51.340 and white supremacy 0.73

01:28:52.380 and ask,

01:28:53.920 you know,

01:28:54.320 do these labels

01:28:55.360 really belong

01:28:56.260 on the Republican elephant

01:28:57.820 or should they be pinned

01:28:59.220 on the tail 0.77

01:29:00.300 of the Democratic donkey?

01:29:05.260 You are doing a lot

01:29:08.480 to teach history

01:29:10.540 and correct

01:29:11.800 this kind of nonsense

01:29:14.180 that has been

01:29:16.300 so prevalent

01:29:17.200 and so successful

01:29:18.720 in the last 100 years.

01:29:21.240 How long is it going

01:29:22.000 to take

01:29:22.380 to re-educate people

01:29:24.480 to what really happened,

01:29:26.080 do you think?

01:29:27.760 Well,

01:29:28.380 I think the beauty

01:29:29.160 of living today

01:29:30.160 is that things

01:29:32.020 can be checked out.

01:29:33.700 And so when people

01:29:34.660 say things,

01:29:35.520 I'll speak on campus

01:29:36.840 and someone will say,

01:29:37.960 well, you know,

01:29:38.500 Richard Nixon 0.99

01:29:39.060 was a blatant racist. 0.99

01:29:40.740 He had a Southern strategy 0.97

01:29:42.280 of appealing

01:29:42.920 to Southern bigots

01:29:44.640 in the Deep South

01:29:45.580 and converting them

01:29:47.660 over to the Republican Party.

01:29:49.100 Everybody knows this.

01:29:50.660 So then I'll say to him,

01:29:51.720 I'll say,

01:29:52.060 well,

01:29:52.440 can you give me

01:29:53.400 an example

01:29:54.040 of a racist statement

01:29:55.500 ever made

01:29:56.540 in public

01:29:57.160 by Richard Nixon?

01:29:58.520 And in doing this,

01:30:01.240 I'm issuing a kind

01:30:01.960 of public challenge

01:30:02.800 because these days

01:30:03.720 we can go to social media,

01:30:05.040 we can search.

01:30:05.960 The truth of it

01:30:06.560 is there is none.

01:30:07.660 And so then

01:30:08.300 the progressive

01:30:08.940 has to back off

01:30:09.860 and comes up

01:30:10.600 with a counterpoint.

01:30:11.620 Well,

01:30:12.200 Nixon didn't make

01:30:13.300 any racist statements,

01:30:14.500 but, you know,

01:30:15.340 he issued these

01:30:16.520 coded messages,

01:30:18.020 these racist dog whistles.

01:30:20.340 Apparently, 0.99

01:30:21.060 you know,

01:30:21.380 racists are sort of 1.00

01:30:22.080 like dogs 1.00

01:30:22.600 and they've got

01:30:23.080 this sort of

01:30:23.500 heightened awareness,

01:30:24.840 their ability

01:30:25.300 to hear messages

01:30:26.300 that are indecipherable

01:30:27.860 to the rest of us.

01:30:29.240 You know,

01:30:29.800 all this comes down

01:30:31.100 the pike 1.00

01:30:31.520 and then I'll say,

01:30:32.440 well,

01:30:33.040 you know,

01:30:33.560 let's remember

01:30:34.440 that one of the first things

01:30:35.460 that Nixon did

01:30:36.360 when he was elected

01:30:37.120 was he started

01:30:38.360 affirmative action.

01:30:39.700 He is the inventor

01:30:40.620 of affirmative action

01:30:41.680 in America.

01:30:42.220 Now,

01:30:42.780 does this sound to you

01:30:43.820 like something

01:30:44.320 that a racist would do

01:30:45.720 to send coded messages

01:30:47.620 to his own constituency

01:30:48.860 to have a legal policy

01:30:50.640 of preferring blacks

01:30:51.800 over whites?

01:30:52.720 Does this make any sense?

01:30:54.260 So this is my game.

01:30:55.800 You know,

01:30:55.960 I like to use facts

01:30:58.120 and use history

01:30:59.020 in a way

01:30:59.600 that's easily verifiable

01:31:01.060 so someone

01:31:01.900 who's genuinely puzzled

01:31:03.500 can figure out

01:31:04.420 who's right.

01:31:05.680 Dinesh D'Souza,

01:31:06.440 the name of the movie

01:31:07.820 is Death of a Nation,

01:31:09.900 Can We Save America

01:31:10.800 a Second Time?

01:31:12.560 in theaters

01:31:13.100 Friday,

01:31:13.560 August 3rd.

01:31:15.080 Welcome back

01:31:15.620 to Full Citizenship,

01:31:16.740 Dinesh.

01:31:17.360 Always good to talk to you.

01:31:18.340 Thanks.

01:31:19.500 Always a pleasure.

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01:32:50.060 Welcome to the program.

01:32:53.400 You know,

01:32:54.420 it was widely reported

01:32:55.720 that Ted Cruz

01:32:56.500 was really instrumental

01:32:58.720 in the,

01:32:59.540 you know,

01:33:00.980 in the pardon

01:33:01.500 of Dinesh D'Souza

01:33:03.240 and Dinesh

01:33:04.060 just said that as well.

01:33:05.700 It's weird

01:33:06.280 that Donald Trump

01:33:07.060 denies that story.

01:33:08.420 At least he did

01:33:09.840 at one time.

01:33:10.520 I don't know

01:33:11.000 if he still does

01:33:12.000 by that,

01:33:12.460 but yeah,

01:33:12.640 he said nobody

01:33:13.160 asked me to do it,

01:33:14.440 which,

01:33:14.780 well,

01:33:15.260 it may have been true.

01:33:16.220 Maybe Ted didn't

01:33:17.020 officially said,

01:33:18.320 you know,

01:33:20.540 how,

01:33:21.480 well,

01:33:21.700 because he said

01:33:22.120 he didn't know

01:33:22.880 Dinesh

01:33:23.360 and then he said

01:33:26.040 he,

01:33:27.440 no one asked him

01:33:28.600 to do it.

01:33:29.520 He just did it.

01:33:30.580 But,

01:33:30.900 but I mean,

01:33:31.240 it's,

01:33:31.620 you know,

01:33:31.800 like,

01:33:32.100 I don't know,

01:33:32.720 there's anything,

01:33:33.400 who,

01:33:33.640 I don't know,

01:33:33.880 I'm sure Dinesh

01:33:34.460 doesn't care,

01:33:35.320 right?

01:33:35.600 And I don't really

01:33:36.860 care either.

01:33:37.320 to the people

01:33:37.720 who did it.

01:33:38.340 It's just weird.

01:33:39.380 It's just weird.

01:33:40.300 Yeah,

01:33:40.520 I don't understand

01:33:41.380 why he would

01:33:42.000 necessarily,

01:33:43.080 but I mean,

01:33:43.380 that was just

01:33:43.840 maybe his first reaction.

01:33:45.180 Maybe he was

01:33:45.680 protecting Cruz

01:33:46.940 or protecting,

01:33:47.660 or just,

01:33:48.140 you know,

01:33:49.900 it's one thing

01:33:51.620 to have a senator

01:33:52.180 come and ask you

01:33:53.060 for that

01:33:53.540 and another thing

01:33:54.260 to have,

01:33:54.800 you know,

01:33:55.540 somebody come

01:33:56.340 who might have

01:33:57.420 had money

01:33:58.060 or influence

01:33:59.080 or,

01:33:59.920 hey,

01:34:00.060 listen,

01:34:00.520 Dinesh is saying

01:34:01.520 nice things about you.

01:34:03.120 He may have been

01:34:03.820 trying to just

01:34:04.400 to make sure

01:34:04.840 that nobody

01:34:05.820 thought that was going

01:34:06.800 right.

01:34:07.460 Yeah.

01:34:08.080 All right.

01:34:08.640 Back in a minute.

01:34:13.940 You're listening

01:34:14.620 to the Glenn Ben

01:34:15.340 program.

01:34:16.140 Welcome to the

01:34:16.840 program.

01:34:18.360 Welcome to Mr.

01:34:19.320 Pat Gray.

01:34:21.780 Hello, Pat.

01:34:22.440 Good to be here.

01:34:23.880 So,

01:34:24.620 I don't know

01:34:26.400 what you,

01:34:26.900 you have to,

01:34:28.240 you know,

01:34:28.680 because you're

01:34:29.100 always outraged

01:34:29.800 about something.

01:34:30.560 I don't know

01:34:30.880 what it is

01:34:31.500 that you've got

01:34:32.040 problems and issues

01:34:33.180 with today.

01:34:33.800 I'm a hothead.

01:34:34.460 I'm just a hothead.

01:34:35.460 I don't notice that

01:34:36.340 at all about you,

01:34:37.080 actually.

01:34:37.720 You actually

01:34:38.620 seem very calm.

01:34:40.280 Listen to him.

01:34:41.800 Hello.

01:34:42.640 See what I mean?

01:34:43.040 Oh, my gosh.

01:34:43.520 Okay, now I heard

01:34:44.360 the anger.

01:34:45.380 All right.

01:34:45.900 So what are you

01:34:46.620 angry about?

01:34:47.720 What are you

01:34:48.160 angry about today?

01:34:50.280 Well, I'm a little

01:34:51.980 irritated by the

01:34:53.660 mainstream press

01:34:54.620 and what they're

01:34:56.320 doing with the

01:34:56.780 summit drives me

01:34:58.420 out of my mind

01:34:59.040 just because it

01:34:59.700 was Trump.

01:35:00.180 If this was

01:35:00.560 Obama, and I

01:35:01.860 realize everybody's

01:35:02.560 saying if it was

01:35:03.120 Obama, the right

01:35:03.800 would be pissed.

01:35:04.540 And that's probably

01:35:05.420 true because Obama

01:35:06.360 would have gone over

01:35:07.000 there and apologized

01:35:07.700 for everything we've

01:35:08.580 ever done.

01:35:10.780 However,

01:35:11.980 could we have an

01:35:14.680 adult conversation?

01:35:15.900 Absolutely not.

01:35:16.620 I doubt it.

01:35:17.660 Okay, you're right.

01:35:18.420 But go ahead.

01:35:19.180 Let's try.

01:35:19.520 Let's have a conversation

01:35:22.280 that's going to piss

01:35:23.180 both sides off.

01:35:24.860 But somebody has to

01:35:26.620 have this conversation.

01:35:28.380 It's absolutely true

01:35:30.160 that they are rooting

01:35:31.760 for this to fall

01:35:33.140 apart.

01:35:33.700 Yeah.

01:35:34.140 They would rather

01:35:35.500 have a nuclear

01:35:37.400 armed North Korea 0.77

01:35:39.820 that is on the

01:35:40.980 trigger's edge

01:35:42.680 than Donald Trump

01:35:44.520 be successful.

01:35:45.380 No question about it.

01:35:46.220 Okay.

01:35:46.900 And at the same

01:35:47.960 time, what you

01:35:48.540 said about the

01:35:49.040 right, I know

01:35:50.600 we would have

01:35:51.640 said the same

01:35:52.980 thing.

01:35:53.620 Well, we kind of

01:35:54.080 did when he said

01:35:54.740 he would meet

01:35:55.180 with anybody,

01:35:55.800 including Kim Jong

01:35:56.520 Un or Kim Jong

01:35:57.860 Il, whoever was

01:35:58.620 the premier at that

01:35:59.860 time.

01:36:00.180 But I only the

01:36:01.140 only reason

01:36:01.940 because of his

01:36:02.600 attitude.

01:36:03.360 Yeah.

01:36:03.620 The only reason

01:36:04.560 why I feel that

01:36:05.520 way is he was

01:36:07.540 and and hear me

01:36:08.920 out because Stu's

01:36:09.600 got a great response

01:36:10.920 to this because we've

01:36:11.860 been debating this

01:36:12.520 back and forth all

01:36:13.220 day in the

01:36:13.740 commercial breaks.

01:36:14.300 my response is

01:36:17.760 Pat, that's

01:36:20.080 exactly right.

01:36:20.960 He went on an

01:36:21.980 apology tour.

01:36:23.180 He thinks that

01:36:23.920 America was the 0.73

01:36:24.760 aggressor, the

01:36:25.960 colonialist, and he

01:36:27.660 wanted to set the

01:36:28.440 record straight and

01:36:29.400 all the oppressed

01:36:30.400 from being oppressed

01:36:32.100 by the United States,

01:36:33.920 you know, should should

01:36:35.520 all be, you know,

01:36:37.160 free to just do

01:36:38.640 whatever they want

01:36:39.300 with us.

01:36:39.740 that's the way it

01:36:40.920 felt.

01:36:42.180 Donald Trump

01:36:42.940 doesn't feel that

01:36:43.740 way about the

01:36:44.800 United States.

01:36:46.140 And so we kind of

01:36:46.800 go in with the

01:36:48.720 feeling that, well,

01:36:50.280 I mean, he has our

01:36:51.120 best interest at

01:36:51.920 heart and he's not

01:36:53.160 going to accept a

01:36:55.020 book from Hugo

01:36:56.380 Chavez.

01:36:57.440 Right.

01:36:57.740 That is anti-American. 0.71

01:36:59.120 Right.

01:36:59.700 Now listen to his

01:37:00.620 response.

01:37:01.560 Well, I mean,

01:37:01.880 because I think that

01:37:02.540 that speaks to the

01:37:04.400 idea that we didn't

01:37:05.940 trust Obama, right?

01:37:06.820 And and we might

01:37:08.660 trust Trump more.

01:37:09.960 Well, but that's

01:37:10.680 just sides, right?

01:37:11.900 Like the the left

01:37:13.120 trusted Obama more

01:37:15.680 and they don't trust

01:37:16.500 Trump.

01:37:17.080 Right.

01:37:17.340 So that's just a

01:37:18.000 sides.

01:37:18.660 Correct.

01:37:19.320 I think that, you

01:37:19.900 know, because I think

01:37:20.800 the same thing with

01:37:21.600 not just, you know,

01:37:23.580 the book was a good

01:37:24.360 is a good example of

01:37:25.180 this.

01:37:25.440 We went over and we

01:37:26.220 we hammered we hammered

01:37:27.640 Obama because he took

01:37:28.540 the book from Chavez.

01:37:29.600 He stood in front of

01:37:30.200 the Che sign.

01:37:31.480 Remember when he went

01:37:32.120 to Cuba, he was in

01:37:33.760 front of the Che, you 0.62

01:37:35.720 know, light up sign.

01:37:36.820 All of these things.

01:37:38.800 But none of those are

01:37:39.820 even remotely close to

01:37:40.980 the amount of praise

01:37:42.580 heaped onto Kim

01:37:43.940 Jong-un in this

01:37:45.160 meeting.

01:37:45.760 I mean, can you

01:37:46.180 imagine if Barack

01:37:46.960 Obama went met with

01:37:49.000 Kim Jong-un and

01:37:49.740 started calling him a

01:37:50.460 great guy, a great

01:37:51.800 dictator, a great

01:37:52.680 leader?

01:37:53.340 He's really brave.

01:37:54.560 He's ruled really

01:37:55.460 tough.

01:37:56.380 He's he's an engaging

01:37:57.960 man.

01:37:58.840 We would have gone

01:37:59.420 crazy praise on him.

01:38:00.940 Now, I think I'm just

01:38:02.180 overlooking that because

01:38:03.020 I know that's that's

01:38:03.960 that's Trumpism.

01:38:05.200 That's just that's the

01:38:06.420 way Donald Trump

01:38:07.260 speaks and you can't

01:38:08.800 get away from that.

01:38:09.500 And we also I think

01:38:10.460 believe he's full of

01:38:11.260 hyperbole about whatever

01:38:13.000 situation he's in at the

01:38:14.460 time.

01:38:14.980 And he's also I think

01:38:16.200 he's doing that because

01:38:18.140 for good motivations,

01:38:19.580 right?

01:38:19.960 Like he's doing it.

01:38:21.080 I think Dinesh D'Souza

01:38:22.060 brought this up a little

01:38:22.660 bit in that there's an

01:38:23.320 ideological potential

01:38:24.620 ideological alignment

01:38:25.940 between Cuba and Obama

01:38:28.180 where there's not a

01:38:28.940 potential ideological

01:38:29.780 alignment between Trump

01:38:31.340 and and North Korea.

01:38:33.340 But I mean, I think

01:38:34.020 we would have I think

01:38:37.120 hammered Obama for

01:38:38.420 doing the exact same

01:38:40.060 thing, even word for

01:38:41.020 word, like legitimately

01:38:42.480 if every single frame

01:38:44.080 of the video was

01:38:44.800 exactly the same, we

01:38:45.880 would have been

01:38:46.180 hammering.

01:38:46.520 Same thing.

01:38:46.960 And I think we would

01:38:47.500 have done it with

01:38:47.920 Hillary Clinton.

01:38:48.720 Oh, absolutely.

01:38:49.320 But, you know, Trump

01:38:51.420 is getting flack for

01:38:53.020 slapping him on the back

01:38:54.380 because that legitimizes

01:38:56.480 him as a leader,

01:38:57.660 supposedly in diplomatic

01:38:59.300 circles.

01:38:59.960 Barack Obama would

01:39:01.800 have bowed to him.

01:39:02.920 Yeah.

01:39:03.280 The way he did the

01:39:04.320 king of Saudi Arabia,

01:39:05.860 the mayor of Tampa,

01:39:07.480 the janitor at 7-11.

01:39:10.680 The guy bowed to

01:39:11.760 everybody because he

01:39:12.760 wasn't he was just the 0.99

01:39:14.040 president of the crappy 0.99

01:39:14.980 United States. 0.99

01:39:15.800 Yeah.

01:39:16.120 And that's see that is

01:39:17.460 the that is the

01:39:18.620 difference.

01:39:19.200 But that and it may not

01:39:20.380 even be anything other

01:39:22.000 than just the way we

01:39:23.580 feel.

01:39:24.800 Just the way we feel.

01:39:26.100 It's not even exactly

01:39:27.280 that way, though, because

01:39:28.160 we had so much evidence.

01:39:29.960 Yeah.

01:39:30.460 It's the way we feel

01:39:31.540 because he made us feel

01:39:33.080 that way.

01:39:33.740 Yes.

01:39:34.060 Yeah.

01:39:34.720 I agree with you.

01:39:35.860 Yeah.

01:39:35.980 I mean, he went around on

01:39:37.620 the world apology tour.

01:39:38.960 Yep.

01:39:39.200 And was one of the first

01:39:41.700 things he did was tell

01:39:43.580 everybody in the world how

01:39:45.700 bad we were, how flawed we

01:39:47.500 were, you know.

01:39:48.860 And, you know, yes, we

01:39:50.200 have those.

01:39:50.880 But he immediately set out

01:39:53.820 to do whatever.

01:39:56.340 I'm not sure.

01:39:57.200 But the result was half

01:39:58.980 of the country went, wait

01:40:00.700 a minute, what the hell

01:40:01.300 are you doing?

01:40:01.800 You're on our side.

01:40:02.960 Well, he broke the

01:40:03.500 longstanding, at least

01:40:04.800 unwritten rule that you

01:40:05.860 don't badmouth the country

01:40:07.060 when you go overseas.

01:40:07.980 He did it all the time.

01:40:09.380 Yeah.

01:40:09.580 He did it everywhere he

01:40:10.640 went.

01:40:11.040 Yeah.

01:40:11.700 Yeah.

01:40:12.160 And there's a, you

01:40:13.000 know, there's a I think

01:40:13.820 the biggest point here is

01:40:14.680 kind of what you started

01:40:15.340 with, which is, you know,

01:40:17.220 if let's take, turn it

01:40:18.440 around the other side.

01:40:19.380 If every frame of the

01:40:20.980 video was the same, if

01:40:22.660 this exact same handshake,

01:40:24.680 exact same words of

01:40:25.760 praise, all of that

01:40:26.740 happened and Barack Obama

01:40:28.400 had done it, the media

01:40:29.500 would be fawning over him 0.99

01:40:31.380 today.

01:40:31.780 Oh, they would be big

01:40:33.040 time.

01:40:33.620 The praise would be

01:40:34.460 unending.

01:40:35.760 You know what?

01:40:36.100 You know what article I

01:40:37.260 saw on CNN today?

01:40:39.680 The labor camps in North

01:40:42.860 Korea and how they're 1.00

01:40:44.340 still doing the labor

01:40:45.540 camps.

01:40:45.860 The meeting was 25

01:40:47.360 minutes ago.

01:40:49.440 Give them a minute.

01:40:51.320 I mean, yes, they're

01:40:52.080 still doing the labor

01:40:52.740 camps, but where were

01:40:53.560 you, you know, five

01:40:54.820 years ago on labor

01:40:55.860 camps in North Korea?

01:40:56.880 You didn't give a rat's 0.99

01:40:57.620 ass about that. 0.99

01:40:58.440 And to be fair, they

01:40:59.040 didn't even discuss them

01:41:00.340 really.

01:41:00.800 Right.

01:41:01.080 At one point, Trump kind

01:41:02.380 of made it seem like they

01:41:03.160 didn't talk human rights

01:41:04.160 at all.

01:41:04.400 And it certainly was not

01:41:05.100 something that they

01:41:05.500 agreed on to stop labor

01:41:06.620 camps.

01:41:06.780 They probably didn't talk

01:41:08.340 about human rights at

01:41:09.340 this point.

01:41:10.240 It's the first meeting.

01:41:11.120 Yeah.

01:41:11.420 You want to establish

01:41:12.160 some common ground.

01:41:14.300 The media, the same

01:41:15.580 media that bashed Ronald

01:41:18.200 Reagan for being too

01:41:19.660 tough on Gorbachev.

01:41:22.800 Same media.

01:41:24.240 Yeah.

01:41:24.580 Too tough.

01:41:25.240 Remember in Reykjavik, he

01:41:26.260 walked away.

01:41:27.140 Right.

01:41:28.280 What?

01:41:28.620 You can't walk away.

01:41:29.900 You can't do that.

01:41:30.960 Uh-huh.

01:41:31.240 So he was too tough and it

01:41:33.900 worked.

01:41:34.520 It worked.

01:41:35.700 Now, this may not work, but

01:41:38.100 we won't know for a while.

01:41:39.960 Right.

01:41:40.320 Now, if it ends up to be

01:41:41.860 exactly the same thing that

01:41:43.860 everybody else has had, where

01:41:45.800 he says one thing and then he

01:41:47.280 just goes back and does it,

01:41:48.820 we'll know it didn't work.

01:41:50.120 Mm-hmm.

01:41:50.600 But it might work.

01:41:52.460 At least we have a chance at

01:41:53.800 peace now.

01:41:55.180 We've got a shot.

01:41:56.880 Yeah.

01:41:57.580 I mean, Barack Obama won a

01:42:00.340 Nobel Prize 10 days into the

01:42:02.220 office and he didn't do

01:42:04.360 anything except swear him get

01:42:06.920 sworn in and he won a Nobel

01:42:09.120 Peace Prize for that.

01:42:10.260 Well, at least Trump has

01:42:11.580 brought us to the precipice of

01:42:13.460 peace.

01:42:14.160 Now, what happens from this

01:42:15.620 point on, I don't know, but

01:42:17.060 at least we've got a shot.

01:42:18.300 Yeah.

01:42:18.480 I mean, you know, as...

01:42:19.900 And I'd love it if the troops

01:42:21.360 came home from South Korea.

01:42:22.520 I would love that.

01:42:23.220 And that seems to be

01:42:24.200 something he's pretty friendly

01:42:26.060 with.

01:42:26.480 I mean, you know, it appears

01:42:27.780 the South Koreans were 0.73

01:42:28.820 surprised by his promise to

01:42:30.700 stop the war exercises with

01:42:32.720 them, which is not maybe the

01:42:34.100 best way to break that news

01:42:35.120 to the media.

01:42:36.000 Probably not, yeah.

01:42:36.280 But still, I mean, like,

01:42:37.360 that's a big...

01:42:38.140 If he decides to continue to

01:42:39.460 do that, it's a big step.

01:42:41.080 And he's right, it would

01:42:41.720 save us a lot of money.

01:42:42.680 Yeah.

01:42:42.940 Both sides hate that.

01:42:44.120 Yeah.

01:42:44.840 Yeah, I mean, so it's...

01:42:46.140 South Korea hates that too.

01:42:47.540 Well, I don't know about

01:42:48.520 that.

01:42:48.820 They're sick of us there.

01:42:50.320 I think some are.

01:42:51.040 I think the new generation is.

01:42:53.220 I think the older generation

01:42:54.500 still loves us.

01:42:55.840 Still wants that protection.

01:42:56.440 And appreciates us and knows 0.98

01:42:58.120 that we save their butts. 0.87

01:42:59.220 Yeah, but the others don't. 0.98

01:43:00.580 So, okay.

01:43:01.200 I know.

01:43:01.680 That's how I am too.

01:43:03.140 And you and I have both

01:43:04.280 gotten more...

01:43:05.200 Libertarian.

01:43:06.280 Libertarian and isolationist.

01:43:07.540 Not isolationist, but I just

01:43:08.920 want to mind our own business.

01:43:10.620 And when we're threatened,

01:43:11.840 that's when the military comes

01:43:12.880 in.

01:43:13.640 When everybody else is

01:43:14.580 threatened, good luck.

01:43:15.260 We are enemies of none

01:43:17.580 unless you're an enemy of our...

01:43:20.620 Unless you claim that we are

01:43:24.540 your enemy and you attack us.

01:43:26.380 That's what the founders want.

01:43:27.760 You attack us, we're going to 0.98

01:43:29.560 come get you. 0.99

01:43:30.480 Yeah.

01:43:31.420 And I think we can, you know...

01:43:33.100 And we're going to bring...

01:43:34.260 I think we're just...

01:43:35.040 Yeah.

01:43:35.460 We're going to bring

01:43:35.880 everything we have.

01:43:36.720 Mm-hmm.

01:43:37.260 I think we're just

01:43:38.020 breathtakingly unsympathetic

01:43:41.220 for attacks.

01:43:42.260 Yes.

01:43:42.340 And then we just go home.

01:43:43.300 Right.

01:43:44.120 No nation building.

01:43:45.100 Nothing.

01:43:45.600 Just go home. 0.99

01:43:46.500 You attacked us. 0.98

01:43:47.700 Mm-hmm.

01:43:48.040 You did this.

01:43:48.980 You brought this rain

01:43:50.080 of fire on us.

01:43:51.260 Yeah.

01:43:51.340 We are going to just 0.97

01:43:53.560 decimate you quickly. 0.98

01:43:56.300 And then we're all going home.

01:43:57.780 That's how it should be.

01:43:58.480 See you later.

01:43:59.120 Mm-hmm.

01:43:59.560 And I think it's fair to look

01:44:00.500 at this process, too, as,

01:44:02.020 you know, it's the top

01:44:03.840 of the first inning here.

01:44:04.920 Right?

01:44:05.320 I mean, like, it's okay

01:44:06.700 to look at this and say

01:44:07.660 to not blame Trump

01:44:09.380 if it falls apart

01:44:10.140 in a few months

01:44:10.680 and to not praise

01:44:12.220 everything that has happened

01:44:13.620 so far as this

01:44:14.200 incredible achievement.

01:44:15.160 What you have here

01:44:16.100 is a very first step

01:44:17.420 and an important one.

01:44:19.000 Mm-hmm.

01:44:19.020 I think Trump has looked

01:44:19.800 at this in a different way

01:44:20.760 where previous presidents

01:44:23.100 have had more on paper

01:44:24.540 than Trump has.

01:44:25.380 Like, they've had

01:44:26.060 stronger language,

01:44:27.760 bigger promises

01:44:28.900 as far as denuclearization.

01:44:30.220 We've had that

01:44:30.920 on paper before.

01:44:32.060 The issue is

01:44:32.980 you're talking to a lesser

01:44:34.420 person in that government

01:44:36.000 where everything there

01:44:37.260 comes top down.

01:44:38.320 So Trump made the decision,

01:44:39.380 I think,

01:44:39.660 in an interesting approach

01:44:41.120 to say,

01:44:41.640 let me go to the top

01:44:42.680 and start it there

01:44:43.740 instead of working our way up.

01:44:45.120 And maybe that's

01:44:45.660 a different path

01:44:46.700 and that works.

01:44:47.100 And I think he is

01:44:47.940 playing into his ego.

01:44:49.400 Play the,

01:44:49.820 we haven't played this yet,

01:44:50.800 play the audio

01:44:51.880 of the movie

01:44:54.560 that-

01:44:55.240 That's incredible.

01:44:55.820 That Donald Trump

01:44:56.760 had made

01:44:57.820 to start the process

01:45:00.640 with Kim Jong-un.

01:45:02.180 Listen to this.

01:45:02.840 Seven billion people

01:45:04.700 inhabit planet Earth.

01:45:07.040 Of those alive today,

01:45:08.800 only a small number

01:45:10.060 will leave a lasting impact.

01:45:12.860 And only the very few

01:45:14.240 will make decisions

01:45:15.280 or take actions

01:45:16.500 that renew their homeland

01:45:18.560 and change the course of history.

01:45:22.680 History may appear

01:45:24.000 to repeat itself

01:45:24.860 for generations.

01:45:26.940 Cycles that never seem to end.

01:45:29.980 There have been times

01:45:30.940 of relative peace.

01:45:32.840 and times

01:45:33.480 of great tension.

01:45:36.040 While this cycle repeats,

01:45:38.500 the light of prosperity

01:45:39.700 and innovation

01:45:40.560 has burned bright

01:45:41.600 for most of the world.

01:45:43.760 History

01:45:44.140 is always evolving.

01:45:46.960 And there comes a time

01:45:48.080 when only a few

01:45:49.400 are called upon

01:45:50.720 to make a difference.

01:45:52.800 But the question is,

01:45:54.420 what difference

01:45:55.180 will the few make?

01:45:57.260 The past

01:45:57.900 doesn't have to be

01:45:59.280 the future.

01:46:00.940 Out of the darkness

01:46:01.860 can come the light

01:46:03.380 and the light of hope

01:46:05.040 can burn bright.

01:46:08.120 Now listen to this.

01:46:10.680 What if

01:46:11.940 a people

01:46:14.000 that share

01:46:15.080 a common

01:46:15.740 and rich heritage

01:46:16.920 can find

01:46:18.180 a common future?

01:46:20.360 Their story

01:46:21.140 is well known.

01:46:22.800 But what

01:46:23.620 will be their sequel?

01:46:24.880 Destiny Pictures presents

01:46:30.620 A Story of Opportunity

01:46:32.980 A New Story

01:46:34.580 A New Beginning

01:46:36.060 One of Peace

01:46:37.440 Two Men

01:46:38.700 Two Leaders

01:46:40.540 One Destiny

01:46:42.500 A story about

01:46:45.100 a special moment

01:46:46.120 in time

01:46:46.680 when a man

01:46:47.860 is presented

01:46:48.340 with one chance

01:46:49.320 that may never

01:46:50.380 be repeated.

01:46:51.740 What will he choose?

01:46:53.520 To show vision

01:46:54.440 and leadership

01:46:55.180 or not?

01:47:00.020 Interesting.

01:47:01.160 Is that crazy?

01:47:01.940 Really good.

01:47:02.680 Really good.

01:47:03.400 It's playing right into it.

01:47:04.640 Kim Jong-un

01:47:05.380 right into it.

01:47:06.200 The basketball shot

01:47:06.980 at the end

01:47:07.380 because he knows

01:47:07.860 he's a basketball fan.

01:47:09.020 Out of the blue

01:47:09.880 you got a basketball dunk?

01:47:11.360 And the White House

01:47:12.420 makes

01:47:12.760 the White House

01:47:13.920 has this film made

01:47:15.040 Destiny Pictures.

01:47:16.660 He's also a

01:47:17.820 Western

01:47:18.280 picture fan.

01:47:20.240 Yeah.

01:47:20.500 He loves Hollywood.

01:47:21.200 He loves Hollywood.

01:47:22.620 This was brilliant.

01:47:24.660 Yeah it is.

01:47:25.040 This was brilliant.

01:47:26.900 It is.

01:47:27.300 We don't know

01:47:27.660 if it's going to work

01:47:28.440 but he is saying

01:47:30.220 come on brother

01:47:31.240 just give him up.

01:47:32.560 You can just be like us.

01:47:33.580 We're going to be

01:47:33.900 we're all going to be buddies.

01:47:35.840 You're going to be famous.

01:47:37.320 We're going to make you a star.

01:47:39.280 You're going to be

01:47:39.840 a wealthy

01:47:40.380 normal nation now.

01:47:42.400 I mean

01:47:42.820 if you just

01:47:43.740 do this

01:47:44.480 take this big step

01:47:45.520 with us.

01:47:46.120 Yeah.

01:47:46.520 That's got to be

01:47:47.180 attractive to him.

01:47:48.080 Right.

01:47:48.660 With a starving population

01:47:49.900 that's got to be attractive.

01:47:50.720 Yeah.

01:47:51.180 I mean

01:47:51.420 you know

01:47:51.840 it'll end in war crimes 0.97

01:47:52.860 for him

01:47:53.260 and the loss of his country

01:47:54.600 but I hope he takes it.

01:47:56.840 I hope he takes it.

01:47:58.780 All right.

01:47:59.320 Thanks Pat.

01:48:01.480 Pat Grand Leash

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01:48:07.920 All right.

01:48:09.860 So the Fed

01:48:10.740 is signaling

01:48:11.920 more rate hikes.

01:48:14.580 Okay.

01:48:15.180 Why?

01:48:16.040 Why?

01:48:16.780 Because everything's fine

01:48:17.760 and we can just

01:48:18.580 we can jack those rates up

01:48:19.700 because the entire economy

01:48:20.980 is fine.

01:48:21.240 Everything's fine.

01:48:22.200 Actually I mean

01:48:22.640 we are in a good position

01:48:23.660 right?

01:48:23.920 You can understand

01:48:24.520 the belief

01:48:26.340 that now's the time

01:48:27.440 to kind of

01:48:28.000 bring these rates up.

01:48:29.580 We've got unemployment

01:48:30.520 at record lows.

01:48:32.640 You know

01:48:32.800 basically lowest

01:48:33.480 has been in 50 years.

01:48:34.840 Yeah usually the rates

01:48:35.660 go up because of inflation.

01:48:37.340 Right but that's because

01:48:38.260 the economy is improving.

01:48:40.140 Uh huh.

01:48:40.780 And there's a whole

01:48:41.900 buttload of money out there.

01:48:43.360 The way that your

01:48:44.740 investment will thrive

01:48:45.840 during inflation

01:48:46.860 is gold.

01:48:47.720 For instance

01:48:48.060 you just leave your money

01:48:49.400 in the bank.

01:48:51.380 Just the devaluation

01:48:53.140 of the dollar

01:48:53.840 is going to eat

01:48:55.020 that savings away.

01:48:56.740 Don't wake up one day

01:48:57.840 and find out that your dollars

01:48:58.720 are worth less

01:49:00.340 or worthless.

01:49:01.220 You have no asset

01:49:02.920 to protect yourself

01:49:04.440 or your cash.

01:49:06.040 Don't think this can't happen.

01:49:07.600 It's happened

01:49:07.980 all around the world.

01:49:09.340 Look at Zimbabwe 1.00

01:49:10.520 as the latest big example.

01:49:12.500 Goldline's going to give you

01:49:13.320 a free Zimbabwean

01:49:14.440 10 billion dollar bill.

01:49:17.340 Wow.

01:49:18.300 I'm a 10 billionaire.

01:49:20.540 Uh huh.

01:49:22.020 It's Zimbabwean money.

01:49:23.960 So if you want

01:49:24.960 a 10 billion dollar bill

01:49:26.220 just keep it in your wallet.

01:49:28.060 It's great to have.

01:49:29.040 They're going to send it

01:49:29.500 to you for free

01:49:30.060 if you just ask for it.

01:49:31.220 As a reminder

01:49:32.100 of how bad things

01:49:34.220 can get

01:49:35.140 in countries

01:49:36.220 that think

01:49:37.460 well no

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01:49:57.620 or goldline.com

01:49:58.880 I saw

01:50:04.160 Ocean's 8

01:50:05.060 last night

01:50:05.500 with the family.

01:50:06.500 Really good.

01:50:07.080 I really liked it.

01:50:07.960 I really liked it.

01:50:08.840 Yeah.

01:50:09.160 I mean it's

01:50:09.520 not actually

01:50:10.920 a great series

01:50:11.900 Ocean's.

01:50:12.600 The Ocean's movies.

01:50:13.180 No.

01:50:13.520 Ocean's 11

01:50:14.060 is a great movie.

01:50:14.840 It's one of the best movies.

01:50:16.240 It's one of my favorite movies.

01:50:17.760 Of all time.

01:50:18.660 Ocean's 12

01:50:19.360 is terrible

01:50:20.360 and Ocean's 13

01:50:21.240 is mediocre.

01:50:21.960 It's okay.

01:50:22.540 It's okay.

01:50:23.320 12 is universally

01:50:24.600 thought of as terrible.

01:50:27.080 There's no one

01:50:28.440 with any sense

01:50:29.420 who believes anything.

01:50:30.200 I agree with that.

01:50:32.260 110%.

01:50:32.780 You know what

01:50:33.520 a better sequel

01:50:34.540 to Ocean's 11 is?

01:50:35.980 What?

01:50:36.500 Lucky Logan.

01:50:37.780 Or Lucky...

01:50:38.320 Oh yeah I saw that too.

01:50:39.280 That was good.

01:50:40.700 That was good.

01:50:41.460 The 7-11.

01:50:42.460 The Ocean's 7-11

01:50:43.680 is what that one's called.

01:50:45.940 Lucky Logan.

01:50:46.160 But Ocean's 8

01:50:48.700 I liked it.

01:50:50.100 I really liked it.

01:50:50.760 Was it essentially

01:50:50.820 the same movie

01:50:51.440 as the other movies?

01:50:53.020 Shockingly yes.

01:50:54.920 And they even brought

01:50:55.900 some of the Ocean's 11

01:50:56.860 characters into it.

01:50:58.000 I enjoyed it.

01:50:58.960 You'll like it.

01:50:59.360 It's fun.

01:50:59.840 Glenn.

01:51:00.620 Back.

01:51:01.660 Mercury.

The Glenn Beck Program - June 12, 2018

'A Chance To Work'？ - 6⧸12⧸18

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