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00:01:11.680 What you're about to hear is the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

00:01:40.040 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:01:46.920 There is a ton going on today.

00:01:49.360 We have the latest in the polls.

00:01:51.420 We have the latest in the poll rigging, if you will.

00:01:56.840 We also have the live testimony that matters today of Amy Coney Barrett.

00:02:03.480 That's all coming up.

00:02:04.640 But before we go forward, we remember who we are.

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00:03:35.320 I want to start with remembering who we are before we go forward.

00:03:44.880 Because everybody's a little freaked out right now.

00:03:49.600 Gee, what's going to happen?

00:03:52.300 Let's remember, we've been through tough times before.

00:03:55.260 Well, first of all, let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself.

00:04:07.460 Nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror, which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into advance.

00:04:17.300 We have been compelled to create a permanent arminence industry of vast proportions.

00:04:23.520 In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex.

00:04:34.360 The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

00:04:40.860 We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes.

00:04:47.920 I do not believe that any of us would exchange places with any other people or any other generation. 1.00

00:04:56.580 The energy, the faith, the devotion, which we bring to this endeavor, will light our country and all who serve it.

00:05:08.760 And the glow from that fire can truly light the world.

00:05:13.560 And so, my fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.

00:05:25.060 My fellow citizens of the world, ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.

00:05:44.180 And there are even a few who say that it's true that communism is an evil system, but it permits us to make economic progress.

00:06:02.300 La sie nach Berlin in common.

00:06:05.000 Let them come to Berlin.

00:06:06.320 All free men, wherever they may live, are citizens of Berlin.

00:06:14.300 And therefore, as a free man, I take pride in the words,

00:06:20.880 Ich bin ein Berliner.

00:06:22.440 I am happy to join with you today in what will go down in history

00:06:29.640 as the greatest demonstration for freedom in the history of our nation.

00:06:36.320 I have a dream.

00:07:03.320 My four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.

00:07:12.900 I have a dream today.

00:07:18.040 With this faith, we will be able to work together, to pray together, to struggle together, to go to jail together, to stand up for freedom together, knowing that we will be free one day.

00:07:33.320 Let freedom ring, and when this happens, when we allow freedom to ring, when we let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be able to speed up that day when all of God's children, black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spirit of free Atlanta.

00:08:03.320 Free Atlanta!

00:08:04.320 Free Atlanta!

00:08:05.320 Thanks God Almighty!

00:08:06.320 We are free Atlanta!

00:08:07.320 But we have to make an effort in the United States.

00:08:10.320 We have to make an effort to understand, to get beyond or go beyond these rather difficult times.

00:08:15.320 A favorite poem, my favorite poet was Aeschylus.

00:08:20.320 He once wrote, even in our sleep, pain which cannot forget, falls drop by drop upon the heart, until in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom through the awful grace of God.

00:08:38.320 What we need in the United States is not division, what we need in the United States is not hatred, what we need in the United States is not violence and lawlessness, but is love and wisdom and compassion toward one another.

00:08:57.320 Feeling of justice toward those who still suffer within our country, whether they be white or whether they be black. 0.51

00:09:07.320 A few years ago, I knew these times were coming, and I tried to write something that my children could understand.

00:09:20.320 And it led me to write something called The Man in the Moon.

00:09:27.320 It was an idea of somebody who was watching the world from the very beginning, from creation.

00:09:36.320 And he would watch the comings and the goings and the darks and the lights of man's struggle.

00:09:43.320 What would he have to say to us at this point?

00:09:48.320 As the story says in the beginning, I am the lesser light.

00:09:59.320 But even that is not true.

00:10:02.320 For I am not a light at all.

00:10:06.320 But you are.

00:10:08.320 I know.

00:10:10.320 I have waited for you my whole life.

00:10:13.320 You have been foretold.

00:10:16.320 You see, the story is really quite simple.

00:10:20.320 You and I are both celestial bodies.

00:10:25.320 But you have something inside of you that I do not.

00:10:31.320 The Great Maker placed inside of you a piece of his light.

00:10:39.320 It gives you a piece of his power.

00:10:45.320 My little ones, I am sorry.

00:10:50.320 But I cannot tell you how your story ends.

00:10:54.320 For I am not the author.

00:10:59.320 You are. 0.70

00:11:02.320 Tonight, you will go home and kiss your little beasts and they shall kiss you. 0.99

00:11:10.320 If I have done my job, your light shall burn just a little brighter.

00:11:16.320 And when you awake, you will again choose and begin to write the next pages of this amazing story yourself.

00:11:25.320 And so will all those around you.

00:11:29.320 Help each other.

00:11:31.320 Be good to each other.

00:11:34.320 Love.

00:11:36.320 Love one another.

00:11:39.320 I can't wait to see what you decide to do.

00:11:46.320 I am but one moon.

00:11:49.320 There are billions of moons scattered throughout the emptiness of space.

00:11:56.320 For millions of years, I have wondered.

00:11:59.320 What is the point?

00:12:02.320 I have felt small and insignificant, and that just holding my place in your sky made no difference.

00:12:11.320 The darkness whispered its lies.

00:12:18.320 And I looked to the light.

00:12:23.320 He filled me with warmth and truth.

00:12:28.320 I discovered how wrong the darkness was.

00:12:32.320 I was not just a moon.

00:12:35.320 I am your moon, and you are my beasts. 0.88

00:12:42.320 And so, I will simply do what I was created for.

00:12:49.320 I will stand in the light, so that in your darkest hour, I can remind you that on the morrow, the sun shall return.

00:13:04.320 And for all the people back on earth, the crew of Apollo 8 has a message that we would like to send to you.

00:13:19.320 In a beginning, God created the heaven and the earth.

00:13:24.320 And the earth was without form, and void.

00:13:27.320 And darkness was upon the face of the deep.

00:13:30.320 And the spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

00:13:35.320 And God said, let there be light, and there was light.

00:13:54.320 I am so glad you're here.

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00:15:38.320 Glad you're here.

00:15:39.320 I would ask for your prayers of protection on everybody that you listen to, because I think we are really under attack.

00:15:52.320 As you might hear, I just realized that it sounds like my vocal cords are going again.

00:15:59.320 And that is never fun.

00:16:01.320 Last time that happened, I was out for a month.

00:16:03.320 Not exactly the time for that to happen.

00:16:07.320 Welcome back to Stu, who's been on COVID detail.

00:16:11.320 You didn't have COVID, right?

00:16:14.320 Well, in solidarity with the president, I did obtain COVID in the exact same schedule that he did, reportedly.

00:16:23.320 Right.

00:16:24.320 Got it on that Saturday.

00:16:25.320 Tested positive on Wednesday or Thursday of last week.

00:16:30.320 And was in quarantine all last week, so it was lots of fun.

00:16:33.320 Lots of fun.

00:16:34.320 Yep.

00:16:35.320 I didn't get any cool, like, new high scientific treatments, though.

00:16:38.320 No, but you are willing to go out and French kiss every single listener today.

00:16:42.320 Yes.

00:16:43.320 It's so irresponsible, Stu.

00:16:45.320 I mean, it's so irresponsible.

00:16:47.320 But fun.

00:16:48.320 Yeah.

00:16:49.320 Yeah.

00:16:50.320 And we want you to know, the president was dead serious when he said that yesterday, that he was going to kiss all of his supporters.

00:16:56.320 Dead serious.

00:16:58.320 That's what makes it so irresponsible.

00:17:02.320 Jeez.

00:17:03.320 This was the time.

00:17:04.320 This was the joke that's going to ruin our entire country.

00:17:07.320 Oh, yeah, I know.

00:17:08.320 It's agonizing.

00:17:09.320 Let's begin with the Barrett confirmation hearing.

00:17:12.320 Right now, Lindsey Graham is probably asking her, you know, how great she is.

00:17:20.320 It would shut such a lawsuit down and it wouldn't make its way up to the Supreme Court.

00:17:24.320 But if it did, it would be the same process I've described.

00:17:26.320 Well, let's turn now to Senator Hawley's favorite topic.

00:17:29.320 Substantive due process.

00:17:32.320 As a legal theory, what am I talking about?

00:17:35.320 Can you explain it for the country?

00:17:37.320 Because if you can't, we're in trouble.

00:17:39.320 I think I'll have a hard time doing it.

00:17:41.320 So, both the 14th and 5th Amendments protect life or provide that the state cannot take life, liberty, or property without due process of law.

00:17:50.320 And that sounds like a procedural guarantee, but in Supreme Court precedent, it has a substantive component.

00:17:57.320 And so, the substantive due process clause says that there are some liberties, some rights that people possess that the state can't take away or can't take away without a really good reason.

00:18:08.320 So, the right to use birth control, the right to abortion are examples of rights protected by substantive due process.

00:18:15.320 These are judicially created rights not found in the document called the Constitution. Is that correct?

00:18:20.320 Well, the Supreme Court has grounded them in the Constitution.

00:18:23.320 But they're not written?

00:18:24.320 They're not expressed.

00:18:25.320 Okay.

00:18:26.320 So, is it fair to say there's a great debate in the law about how far this should go and what limits should apply, if any?

00:18:34.320 That's fair to say.

00:18:35.320 There's also a lot of debate in Supreme Court opinions.

00:18:38.320 I'm not aware of anybody proposing to throw it over entirely, but there's certainly a debate about how to define these rights and how far it should go.

00:18:46.320 Well, let's just say that you're in the camp or anybody's in the camp that substantive due process is a legal concept is unbounded.

00:18:55.320 It basically makes the Constitution no more certain than the five people interpreting at any given time in the country.

00:19:02.320 Whatever rights they think you have, you get.

00:19:05.320 Whatever rights they want to take away from you, they can.

00:19:08.320 It's a pretty nebulous legal concept.

00:19:11.320 That's sort of my view of it.

00:19:12.320 I'm not imposing my views on yours.

00:19:15.320 But then there's a thing called precedent.

00:19:18.320 Let's say you didn't like a case decided under substantive due process.

00:19:23.320 You thought the whole concept was constitutionally an error.

00:19:28.320 How does precedent play?

00:19:30.320 So precedent is the principle that cases that have been decided by the court before this one lands on the docket are presumptively controlling.

00:19:40.320 And so precedent comes from a concept called stare decisis, which is a shorthand for a longer Latin phrase that means stand by the thing decided and do not disturb the calm.

00:19:51.320 So precedent is a principle that you're not going to overrule something without good reason or royal up the law without justification for doing so.

00:20:00.320 So you could say the underlying analysis that led to any case, just case X, I reject that analysis, but I will now apply precedent to whether or not it should be reversed.

00:20:14.320 Is that what you're telling us?

00:20:15.320 That is.

00:20:16.320 Okay.

00:20:17.320 What are the factors would a judge look at in terms of overruling and precedent?

00:20:21.320 Gee, I wonder what they're talking about.

00:20:23.320 Well, of course.

00:20:24.320 Yeah, just case X.

00:20:25.320 Yeah, just case X.

00:20:26.320 Oh, some unknown case has nothing to do with abortion.

00:20:31.320 You could say structurally this case should, constitutionally it was wrongly decided, but that doesn't end the debate.

00:20:38.320 Is that correct?

00:20:39.320 We're not going to dwell on the questions from the majority because I think we all know that it's not going to be tough questions.

00:20:48.320 I really want to hear Feinstein.

00:20:50.320 I want to hear the left and the tack they're going to take.

00:20:56.320 Yesterday, listening to it, it seemed as if the Democrats had just given up.

00:21:00.320 Like they didn't have the big trick up their sleeve.

00:21:04.320 They didn't have some incredible new line of questioning.

00:21:07.320 It was just basically, hey, we have this time in the spotlight.

00:21:11.320 Let's use it to make generic election points.

00:21:13.320 Yeah, I think that's what they're doing, but they're also undermining the confidence in the Supreme Court.

00:21:20.320 They're there.

00:21:21.320 They were trying to make the case yesterday that this is packing the court by by. 1.00

00:21:27.320 So stupid. 1.00

00:21:28.320 I know that's not what it means. 1.00

00:21:29.320 It's not what it means at all.

00:21:31.320 By by changing the balance of the court, this is packing the court.

00:21:35.320 So they are they're setting up all of the legal arguments on why you shouldn't believe the Supreme Court the way it is.

00:21:43.320 That way, if this goes to this next election happens to go to the Supreme Court, they will be able to have the argument that you can't believe it because she's on it.

00:21:54.320 They've packed the court.

00:21:55.320 If they win, that gives them the reason to say we now have to reverse this by adding members to the court.

00:22:03.320 It is the Democrats are engaged in the greatest subversion of the American Constitution I have ever seen.

00:22:11.320 It is stunning to me that they're actually getting away with all of this.

00:22:18.320 Or are they?

00:22:20.320 I want to talk a look and take a look at some of the polls today.

00:22:23.320 I can't wait to hear Stu's opinion on it.

00:22:26.320 And the polls are out.

00:22:29.320 But then there's cultural things that tell us that it doesn't make sense.

00:22:34.320 They would never in history.

00:22:36.320 These two things would never sit side by side.

00:22:39.320 Things could be different.

00:22:40.320 And this time they do.

00:22:42.320 We'll talk about that coming up in just a second.

00:22:44.320 Also, Ben Sass is about to duck out of the hearing and get on the phone with us.

00:22:48.320 Ben Sass next.

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00:24:12.320 I thought one of the stars yesterday in the opening statements was a guy who didn't use his time to score political points.

00:24:27.320 Instead, used it to teach, I think, really the Senate and those who might be watching that don't understand the Constitution,

00:24:34.320 to teach us about civics and how the law works and what the branches do.

00:24:41.320 Ben Sasse was that man, and he's joining us now.

00:24:44.320 Senator, how are you, sir?

00:24:46.320 I'm doing great, Glenn.

00:24:47.320 Thanks for the invite.

00:24:48.320 You were great yesterday, and I appreciate you coming out of the hearing to be able to talk to us and tell us what you feel is going on.

00:24:59.320 Well, honestly, normally leaving the Senate hearing to talk to you is a good thing.

00:25:06.320 You're so caught to having to get out of a hearing going, oh, I'm going to get out of that hearing.

00:25:12.320 I'm actually losing something by talking to you right now.

00:25:15.320 Judge Barrett is amazing.

00:25:17.320 What she's doing right now is explaining the Constitution. 0.54

00:25:21.320 Okay.

00:25:22.320 Hold on just a second.

00:25:23.320 Hang on, Senator Sasse.

00:25:25.320 You're breaking up horribly.

00:25:26.320 I don't know if you can get near a window.

00:25:29.320 The Senate building is close to a window.

00:25:33.320 Okay, good.

00:25:34.320 That's clear.

00:25:35.320 Okay.

00:25:36.320 All right.

00:25:37.320 So you were saying Judge Barrett is amazing?

00:25:39.320 She is explaining the Constitution to people.

00:25:43.320 She's explaining what judges do.

00:25:45.320 So much of these confirmation hearings have become made-for-TV nonsense,

00:25:50.320 where people are trying to get out the vote or score political points or pork people and do character assassinations.

00:25:55.320 What we should be doing is explaining why judges wear robes as opposed to red or blue partisan jerseys,

00:26:02.320 why they don't stand for election, why they have lifetime tenure.

00:26:06.320 In a constitutional system where you're supposed to be accountable to the people,

00:26:09.320 it's pretty weird to have people in an important job that can't really be fired.

00:26:13.320 But it's because they're supposed to be apolitical.

00:26:16.320 And when we explain that, I think you win America.

00:26:20.320 And I think that's what Judge Barrett's doing right now.

00:26:22.320 But there is a, I mean, first of all, CNN dropped a lot of the coverage yesterday.

00:26:27.320 So, you know, half of the country is not getting this civics lesson.

00:26:31.320 And there is an effort not only with the Democrats, but also now with the press,

00:26:38.320 where they're trying to redefine court packing.

00:26:41.320 And they're saying that by making the court nonpolitical,

00:26:46.320 you're actually changing the structure and you're packing the court.

00:26:51.320 Yeah, we have a lot of my colleagues that are using Orwellian spin now to dodge giving a straight answer on court packing.

00:27:01.320 And they're now saying that filling a vacancy is court packing.

00:27:05.320 Are you kidding me? I mean, the difference between filling a vacancy and packing the court

00:27:09.320 is kind of like the difference between running onto a baseball field versus shooting the referee.

00:27:13.320 I mean, court packing is one thing and only one thing.

00:27:17.320 That is adding seats to the court so that you can get the policy wins you want.

00:27:22.320 It's about trying to turn the Supreme Court into a super legislature.

00:27:26.320 That's what court packing is. And that's why it's wrong.

00:27:28.320 Court packing, it isn't just about destroying one branch of government.

00:27:32.320 It's about blowing up the deliberative process of the Senate in route to trying to remake the judiciary.

00:27:37.320 It's a really, really terrible idea.

00:27:40.320 And I don't think the American people really have any interest in it.

00:27:43.320 What do you think of Biden and his team not answering the question if they will pack the court?

00:27:52.320 What is what do you think that means?

00:27:54.320 Yeah, I think that there are a bunch of people on the left trying to cobble together a coalition of people, some of whom are sort of center left and left of where I would be on policy issues, but kind of reasonable aware.

00:28:08.320 And then there are a bunch of folks that don't really believe in the constitutional structure.

00:28:15.320 And I think that the Biden team is trying to figure out how to maintain that big leftist coalition, united primarily by being frustrated with with Donald Trump on a whole bunch of issues.

00:28:27.320 And so Biden doesn't want to speak to these kinds of issues because he wants to try to maintain a coalition without having to get a lot of give a lot of clear answer.

00:28:36.320 I hear that he last night said a few things that are a little bit court past court packing skeptical.

00:28:42.320 What we need him to hear him say is that he affirmed the constitutional structure and has zero desire in changing the size of the of the court, the composition of Marco.

00:28:52.320 You know, and I have a constitutional amendment to just lock the number of justices at nine. 0.83

00:28:58.320 So we don't have to go through all that.

00:29:00.320 So we we not only have that, but we also have an effort underway from the really, I think, mainly the old Clinton group that is trying to convince states to send other delegates.

00:29:16.320 If if if if the popular vote goes one way and get rid of the electoral college, you know, because you're from Nebraska, what does that mean to America?

00:29:32.820 Well, I mean, the reason we have the electoral college is because we are a republic, right?

00:29:39.260 A democratic republic, to be sure. But our founders didn't create a pure democracy in the sense that every decision should immediately on 51 to 49 bases.

00:29:51.720 And I think that's that's one of the things that's so weird about the political addicts in our time is that there are only about 14 percent of Americans that pay attention to politics on a daily basis.

00:30:01.660 And they think they're representative of, you know, real people in real America, like six percent of Americans don't actually want to do politics as the center of their life, their consciousness, their community, their entertainment.

00:30:13.820 Most people want to be in their church or their synagogue. They want to be in their neighborhood.

00:30:19.080 They want to be in their small business. They want to be coaching Little League.

00:30:21.720 They want to be volunteering on the PTA. They know that the most important parts of government on a daily basis are the ones that are closest to them.

00:30:28.100 And I think there are a lot of national, politically addicted people who want to try to remake all of American life as about the immediacy of screaming.

00:30:36.740 And so they don't like institutions like the Electoral College, which mediate small R Republican, not partisan Republican Party, but small R Republican decisions through structures of deliberative process.

00:30:48.660 What does it mean if we have because the left is crying for a direct democracy?

00:30:55.880 What does that what would that mean to us?

00:31:00.000 Well, I mean, first of all, we should back up and say, why do we have limited government?

00:31:04.600 What does it mean to say that we have limited government?

00:31:06.800 It means that we don't think that power is the center of life.

00:31:09.380 Right. We believe that 330 million Americans are all created with universal human dignity.

00:31:14.580 They're created in the image of God. And the most interesting things about people are not about power.

00:31:20.240 They're about love. They're about persuasion. They're about assembly.

00:31:23.720 They're about breaking bread. They're about playing catch.

00:31:26.760 They're about doing meaningful work that benefits your neighbor.

00:31:30.160 The really important things in life are not primarily about power structure.

00:31:33.980 And so when people want to talk constantly about government, they've they've confused the nature of the community, confused the nature of human community.

00:31:43.880 And they've confused happiness. And so there are a lot of politically addicted people don't have much in their life except obsession over power.

00:31:51.520 And they want everybody else to participate in their obsession. And most people don't want that.

00:31:56.440 What they want is the government to maintain a framework for ordered liberty so that you can then pursue all the greatness of life in the actual neighborhood where you're living and raising kids, not in one size fits all political decision making away.

00:32:09.480 What is this election mean if we go one way or the other?

00:32:14.360 Well, first of all, let's talk about which election, because I think that we are talking constantly in American public life for the last three and a half years about the presidency.

00:32:25.480 And the truth of the matter is, you know, the president, Donald Trump and I differ on a lot of things.

00:32:30.740 But one of the things we differ on is he actually likes the immediacy political culture.

00:32:35.460 He wants to be on the on everybody's TV screen and Twitter account and social media feed all day, every day.

00:32:40.880 I don't think most people want that. I think it's really unhelpful.

00:32:43.920 I don't think it's good for my party to tie itself to the political brand of one individual who kind of views life as reality TV.

00:32:51.980 So when we talk about the election, to me, the most important election by far in three weeks is the election for the United States Senate, because it is if the Democrats get to a super majority in the Senate, which I would define as maybe 52, 53, 54 votes, that they'll end the filibuster and try to fundamentally remake America.

00:33:11.080 They'll try to add new states. They'll try to pack the Supreme Court. 1.00

00:33:15.200 They'll radically remake the nature of a market economic system and try to replace it with lots more socialized government planning.

00:33:23.740 I think that the most important things that can be broken in America would be broken by a Senate that gets to a Democratic super majority.

00:33:31.640 So I've spent almost all my time this last year in politics campaigning to try to maintain a Republican majority in the Senate, because I think so much of what's precious about our framework for ordered liberty could be lost in a majoritarian U.S. Senate that a lot of Democrats want to make.

00:33:48.100 I would I would I would agree with you. However, I I also I mean, I've changed on Donald Trump.

00:33:53.940 I don't think that you have, but I watched his actions and tried to turn that tune out the words and just watch his actions.

00:34:02.400 And he has done remarkable things. One of the things I was really worried about is that he you know, he does like to just take control.

00:34:13.520 He's a CEO of things. And if we ever faced a pandemic or a real crisis, that he would grab the power reins, which he was encouraged to do and didn't do.

00:34:25.180 And now I see who we are facing and how serious they are about the destruction of America through violent means or or any other means.

00:34:38.460 And I think this presidential election is is the most important in my lifetime.

00:34:43.940 And I've always hated that phrase. You do you find validity in that?

00:34:49.880 Well, so, first of all, let's agree with you on the hating of the phrase, because this idea that every election is the most important in our lifetime.

00:34:57.880 And I and I totally understand why there's a lot on the line 21 days from now.

00:35:02.060 But this idea is already a sign that we've gone around a bend that's really unhealthy.

00:35:07.980 Oh, yeah, I know. We want culture to be upstream from politics and economics should be largely decoupled from politics.

00:35:13.840 So, first of all, let's just do your point about Donald Trump. There are places where I think he's done a phenomenal job.

00:35:20.400 His judicial selection has been amazing. Amy Barrett sitting, you know, 50 yards from me right now is a rock star.

00:35:28.360 This will be the third person he's put on the Supreme Court. We've got 60 appellate judges, 200 total judges.

00:35:35.400 The pace of judicial confirmations over the last three years has been an all time record in U.S. history since the circuit courts were created.

00:35:42.300 So I went on the Judiciary Committee to fight for President Trump's judges, but I think he's done a great job in that domain.

00:35:48.400 But I think writ large, American politics should be focused on the problems 10 years in the future.

00:35:54.240 The long term technology race with the Chinese Communist Party, AI, machine learning, quantum computing, biotech, robotics, 5G.

00:36:00.940 Like the really big issues that we should be bringing the American people along on, we're not.

00:36:05.280 We're not right now grappling with the changed nature of work where the average duration at a firm for a 35 or a 40 or 45-year-old mom or dad needing to put bread on the table,

00:36:16.440 that the average duration at that firm is getting shorter and shorter.

00:36:19.320 It was 26 years when I was a kid, the average duration at a job or a company.

00:36:24.220 It's now 4.2 years and getting shorter.

00:36:26.840 We need to think about what job retraining for those folks who are getting disrupted when they're 45 hours.

00:36:32.360 What is that conversation in American public life?

00:36:34.980 I agree with you 100%.

00:36:37.960 I've been talking about that for 10 years, and I think COVID has made things much, much worse.

00:36:45.340 So I guess I should just ask you a point blank.

00:36:49.400 Are you voting for the Republican candidate this election?

00:36:54.660 Yeah, Glenn, I'm not making any headlines about that today because I think that there's – I don't get any Nebraskans asking me how they should vote in the presidential election.

00:37:05.440 That's not what they look to me to do.

00:37:07.260 They look to me to explain why I'm running for re-election to the United States Senate.

00:37:11.040 And I talk about, as you and I have here, the future of war with the Communist Party, the future of work, the First Amendment, which is being tragically lost,

00:37:19.840 and the crazy nuttiness that we see happening on the campus where people are redefining speech they don't like as violence.

00:37:26.760 That's why Amy Barrett is, you know, a group of people fighting for his nominees to the court.

00:37:34.780 But I think reducing our public conversation every four years just to one vote for president is that drip, drip, drip of political immediacy displacing the larger conversations we should be having in American public life.

00:37:49.320 Ben Zass, I have appreciated your work on the civic conversation and your lesson on civics yesterday.

00:37:57.840 Thanks for ducking out for us today.

00:37:59.660 Appreciate it.

00:38:00.220 Thanks, Glenn.

00:38:00.780 Bye-bye.

00:38:05.100 Welcome to the program.

00:38:07.340 I was – he's making interesting choices this close to the election.

00:38:15.520 His own election as well.

00:38:16.800 Yeah, his own election.

00:38:17.740 Heavily favored to win in Nebraska.

00:38:20.640 And look –

00:38:21.060 I like him.

00:38:22.060 I just disagree with him on things, but I like him.

00:38:24.780 I like him.

00:38:25.100 Yeah, I'm a fan.

00:38:25.880 You know, again, he's directing, I think, the conversation – forget who you're going to vote for.

00:38:32.160 No one cares what anyone else – who cares what someone else is going to – who cares who they're going to vote for?

00:38:36.500 I honestly never care about what someone else is going to do with their vote.

00:38:40.980 But I will say that the Senate is crucial here.

00:38:44.460 Yeah, it is.

00:38:45.000 That Senate could really, you know, spiral things out of control.

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00:40:00.040 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:40:09.820 Can we just take a little bit of the live...

00:40:12.140 Adverse employment action.

00:40:13.940 This is, uh...

00:40:15.580 Well, I'm not aware of cases presenting the exact same facts about...

00:40:19.540 This is Judge Barrett.

00:40:20.440 Just asking you for your view.

00:40:22.620 Feinstein is, uh...

00:40:23.660 You know, I know that the material... 0.61

00:40:25.840 ...is questioning, and really there hasn't been anything controversial, just really kind of silly stuff.

00:40:30.460 I have to confess that I would need to look at the...

00:40:33.160 And she should be the toughest one, I would think.

00:40:36.620 Even if I had a specific hypothetical in front of me...

00:40:40.080 Well, Kamala was going to make her... 1.00

00:40:41.440 Kamala we have to cover.

00:40:42.560 Oh yeah, because she's going to try to make it into... 1.00

00:40:45.160 A political thing.

00:40:45.980 Whatever their biggest thing is, right?

00:40:47.960 They're going to utilize with her, I would think.

00:40:50.220 Whatever their best point is, whatever their...

00:40:52.160 Whatever chance they think they have to derail this is going to come through Kamala.

00:40:56.540 You would...

00:40:57.140 You would expect.

00:40:59.160 Just because, at least at the very least, even if she doesn't win, it's putting...

00:41:02.560 Shining a light on her.

00:41:05.480 We'll see if that happens.

00:41:07.280 They don't seem to have much of anything here, do they?

00:41:09.300 They don't have anything here.

00:41:09.840 They have nothing.

00:41:10.720 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

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00:42:41.680 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:42:46.780 Hello, America.

00:42:47.840 America, we are one hour in out of the 11 hours of questioning of Judge Barrett for the Supreme Court.

00:42:58.100 The Democrats don't seem to really have even a direction here, other than trying, I think, to make us lose faith in the Supreme Court.

00:43:08.600 Which, I mean, really, who had a lot of faith in that?

00:43:12.940 Anyway, they're now changing the meaning of court packing, saying that if you're taking the political people out of the Supreme Court, that's akin to court packing.

00:43:26.340 No, it's not that.

00:43:27.840 That's akin to following the Constitution.

00:43:31.280 Court packing is entirely different.

00:43:33.620 We're going to get a rundown on exactly what happened yesterday, what's happening today, what we should expect from Carrie Severino.

00:43:42.100 She's the president of Judicial Crisis Network.

00:43:45.160 She's joining us next.

00:43:47.820 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:43:52.020 Okay, so here's the thing about, you know, some of the things that I forecast.

00:43:57.980 They almost always come true.

00:44:00.340 I always get the timing wrong and the dates wrong.

00:44:02.480 I mean, in 2016, I felt pretty stupid when I said, going to be the summer of blood in the streets, going to be the summer of rage, I think I called it.

00:44:10.680 And it didn't happen.

00:44:11.980 Well, I was four years off.

00:44:14.500 That was the summer of rage, and things are going to get much, much worse.

00:44:18.740 I told you back in 20, what was it, 2007 or 8, that there would be people in the streets that would be, you know, calling to behead people, take people out of their chairs and their offices and just beat them to death in the streets.

00:44:33.720 We're starting to see this.

00:44:35.600 We're on the brink of civil war, I think.

00:44:38.140 I fear.

00:44:38.900 I pray that we're not.

00:44:40.300 But the one thing America has always had going for it is it's stable and the stable and peaceful transfer of power.

00:44:50.460 Well, let me give you a story here real quick.

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00:45:09.860 The guide is called Stopping the Coup, and it's available as a Google Doc.

00:45:15.020 And it's being circulated by a group called Shutdown DC, preventing Donald Trump from stealing the election and remaining in office is likely to take mass, sustained, disruptive movements all over the country.

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00:47:24.620 Carrie Severino is with us.

00:47:26.260 She's the president of Judicial Crisis Network, and I want to get her opinion on what's happened so far and where we're headed on the Barrett confirmation hearing.

00:47:37.200 Hi, Carrie.

00:47:37.740 How are you?

00:47:39.160 Good.

00:47:39.580 How are you doing, Ben?

00:47:40.260 Very good.

00:47:40.900 So, yesterday, the strategy seemed to be to change the definition of packing the court.

00:47:49.780 Is that what you took away yesterday from the tactic of the Democrats?

00:47:54.600 They wanted to talk about anything as long as it wasn't talking about Amy Coney Barrett.

00:47:59.640 They did not want to talk about this talented, outstanding woman sitting before them.

00:48:05.200 They tried to return to play politics.

00:48:06.880 So, you know, a lot of the Democrats just wanted to talk about Obamacare.

00:48:11.120 They had pictures up of different people, you know, who had been helped by the Affordable Care Act, and they were trying to make it seem like her whole purpose in life was to get rid of this. 0.94

00:48:21.780 That's ridiculous.

00:48:22.700 It's not even an issue that she's likely to be the deciding vote on, but, you know, that seemed to pull well for them.

00:48:28.280 And I agree, they want to see, they want to make it seem like simply filling seats on the court is somehow illegitimate, is court packing, which is so ironic because you have Joe Biden currently refusing to say what he would do with respect to actual court packing, which is when you change the number of seats in the Supreme Court for purely partisan ends, like FDR tried to do to get a court that would uphold more of his New Deal legislation.

00:48:53.140 He said, well, I'll just add more seats in the court.

00:48:55.380 That was rejected by his Democratic Senate.

00:48:58.540 It was rejected by people like Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

00:49:00.820 Even Bernie Sanders thinks this is a bad idea.

00:49:02.640 Guys, should be an easy question.

00:49:04.840 Will you or will you not do this horribly radical thing and undermine the court?

00:49:08.940 And they don't want to talk about that.

00:49:10.420 They try to change the subject.

00:49:11.420 Well, the question I just had Ban Sass on, he said the question really is going to rely on the Senate.

00:49:17.120 If I'm not mistaken, when FDR tried it, he did get 26 of his fellow Democrats to vote for it.

00:49:24.540 Times have changed.

00:49:25.700 People don't even pay attention to the Constitution anymore.

00:49:29.800 Do you think he could get more than 26 votes to pack the court?

00:49:34.000 I think if the Democrats get control of the House and the Senate and the White House, I think they absolutely will do that right away.

00:49:41.500 If they wouldn't, they would tell us because I think they recognize this is such a radical thing.

00:49:46.660 Americans don't want to see it, but he's refusing to commit to not doing it.

00:49:52.200 That's because he's more interested in placating his liberal handlers than actually doing what the American people want to do,

00:49:59.120 or even telling the American people what they frankly do deserve to know, contrary to what Biden said,

00:50:04.760 is what would the president do with respect to an entire third branch of government here?

00:50:09.360 So I would be upset at any conservative that did what I think John Roberts does in favor of conservatives.

00:50:19.000 I would be really upset if they would take something and not look at the Constitution,

00:50:24.900 but instead just start to legislate from the bench.

00:50:27.900 I think John Roberts has done that with Obamacare and other things, and I don't want that.

00:50:34.220 And a constitutional, a strict constitutionalist will actually probably piss me off at times

00:50:44.740 because I'll want it to go the other way, but I'll be fine with it because if the Constitution actually says that,

00:50:54.000 well, then we got to do it right.

00:50:55.180 But why is it that people don't understand that a strict constitutionalist will give you some wins and some losses,

00:51:04.240 and some of your wins will be surprises?

00:51:07.100 Some of your losses won't be.

00:51:10.580 Yeah, it's a fundamental misunderstanding of the role of a judge.

00:51:14.000 And you're hearing in some of the discussion today where, you know, Senator Feinstein just got done trying to get Barrett to talk about what her personal views on or on for everything from guns to health care.

00:51:24.240 Like, this is not the question.

00:51:25.620 It isn't.

00:51:26.160 She's not someone who's going to simply go on the court and say, well, you know, Ginsburg was putting her personal views on from the left. 0.71

00:51:31.680 I'm going to put my personal views on from the right.

00:51:33.800 That's not what we want either.

00:51:34.860 We don't want.

00:51:35.380 I don't want that.

00:51:36.080 We don't want judicial activists on the court.

00:51:37.540 We want constitutionalists on the court.

00:51:40.580 And there are aspects of the Constitution that actually are, you know, would fit into what you would call a, quote, liberal paradigm.

00:51:47.480 Sure.

00:51:48.420 Very strong defendants rights, for example.

00:51:50.900 There are aspects that you might say are, quote, conservative, like Second Amendment rights.

00:51:54.380 But the Constitution isn't a political document.

00:51:57.360 It's a legal document.

00:51:58.300 And that's the judge's role is to look at it that way.

00:52:01.720 So if you're following the law and the Constitution, sometimes your results are going to look liberal from a political standpoint.

00:52:07.400 They might look conservative sometimes from a political standpoint.

00:52:10.180 But what's so important is they're legally based.

00:52:12.600 It's not someone who is acting themselves to kind of to follow their own political goals.

00:52:17.700 Then it's following the politics of the American people who pass those laws.

00:52:21.360 Is this what we used to have?

00:52:22.820 I mean, was there a time when the Supreme Court was just known as just interpreting the law?

00:52:34.320 Well, that's that's always been its job.

00:52:36.540 And I think justices have done better or worse jobs of doing that.

00:52:40.940 You know, obviously, through history, we've had, you know, it's not only recently that we've had judges who may have mistaken that role.

00:52:46.980 But I think it has become more of an epidemic, more of a crisis recently, because that was just accepted by all of legal academia and the and the and the whole, you know, practice.

00:52:58.100 But what's great is we're seeing a pushback now.

00:53:01.040 And this is something that, you know, Justice Scalia was kind of on the front end of.

00:53:04.920 And now Judge Barrett is kind of carrying on that mantle of, hey, here's how we get that politics out.

00:53:10.600 We're very faithful to the text as it is written.

00:53:14.020 We need to look at what the law meant at the time it was passed, not what we think it should mean today, not what we wish it meant today.

00:53:20.680 And so that's what actually takes that politics out.

00:53:23.860 So this is really finally achieving the goal of getting those politics back out and restoring the court to its proper constitutional.

00:53:31.580 So we have now three judges that Donald Trump has appointed.

00:53:37.200 If he wins a second term, how many more judges and will they be Clarence Thomas or will they be people that will will bring us closer to the Constitution?

00:53:48.220 Do you have any idea who's looking to retire or?

00:53:52.000 Oh, you know, that is sort of always a very treacherous area to try to speculate.

00:53:57.300 In 2016, I was speculated that would be when we were, you know, Justice Ginsburg, my retirement was four years later.

00:54:02.800 Right. So I think we don't know.

00:54:05.060 But we do know that whoever is elected in 2020 is likely to get seats.

00:54:08.960 And remember, these are all life term seats.

00:54:11.600 So even if you are replacing someone who has a similar judicial approach, it has a generational impact.

00:54:17.460 Because that means, you know, for the next 30, I mean, Justice Bennett has almost served for 30 years already, you know, and we have people serving maybe four decades at this point.

00:54:26.460 Amy Coney Barrett is only 48. Right. 0.84

00:54:27.920 She could serve for a long time.

00:54:29.580 That is going to have a huge impact going into the future of how our children and our grandchildren country will be run and how we will understand the Constitution.

00:54:37.340 They also are trying to say that Donald Trump packed the courts by by filling the vacancies in the lower courts, which he he did.

00:54:48.160 And Obama walked away with a lot of vacancies that changes things.

00:54:52.740 Have you looked at all into the the states where we're most likely to have close election results?

00:55:01.540 And is there an impact on the courts there that may play towards the Constitution's favor?

00:55:08.760 Well, you know, so Trump has done really historically impressive jobs filling those seats, which is really great.

00:55:18.440 A lot of the remaining seats, unfortunately, are in states where there are Democratic senators and they are blocking Trump's picks.

00:55:25.140 They would rather have no one sitting on the court than have someone that Donald Trump put on the court. 0.73

00:55:30.600 So you're seeing you're seeing in some of those states real problems with, you know, cases backing up and judges having a very heavy workload.

00:55:39.100 So I'm optimistic that if we can get some senators who are willing to acknowledge that, you know, these judges are going to be faithful to the law and move forward with those, we could have a better situation across the country.

00:55:53.040 But I think what's so great is we now have well over 200 judges that Trump has put there.

00:55:57.620 This is the next generation of outstanding legal experts in the country.

00:56:03.700 And it's already having an impact in terms of cases being decided according to the law rather than according to politics.

00:56:09.720 So wait, so so the states can say no to a federal judge?

00:56:14.280 Well, the way the system works, there's something called the blue slip and state senators from the state can refuse to turn in their blue slip.

00:56:23.240 And traditionally, there's no, you know, there's no rule or law that says this.

00:56:28.440 But traditionally, the Senate has said if the senators from the state don't both approve of the nominee, we won't move forward on it.

00:56:34.840 So thankfully, there have been many, including Democrat senators who have compromised with the president and have been able to come up with some judges that they could all agree on.

00:56:42.700 But also there's others that, you know, they want to have nothing to do with any kind of compromise with Donald Trump, particularly, you know, places like California, where you've got one of them running for vice president.

00:56:52.880 She's not going to compromise with him, right?

00:56:54.540 Right.

00:56:54.760 So they're just willing to hold on and hold on and refuse to nominate, refuse to help confirm anyone.

00:57:00.280 Let me go back to Amy Coney Barrett.

00:57:04.280 I know you can never tell, and Republicans always seem to get to the losing end of this stick.

00:57:10.100 You get somebody you think is good, and then they start to, you know, go and side with liberals.

00:57:17.900 I know we can't tell the future, but who do you think she's most like or most likely to be like as a justice?

00:57:28.200 Well, you know, she obviously is a clerk for Justice Scalia, and she describes him as a major mentor in her life.

00:57:36.640 So I think her jurisprudence probably will most resemble Justice Scalia's.

00:57:41.440 But, you know, all of these people have a very different personality.

00:57:44.520 So she is much, you know, just watching her today, Scalia was known for his sharp one-liners.

00:57:51.460 And as much fun as that is, her style is very different.

00:57:54.280 She's just been so, I guess, professorial is the right word.

00:57:58.200 But, you know, kind and explaining.

00:58:01.240 She's very good at explaining what these questions are.

00:58:03.780 And she's just so, she comes across, I think, to so genuine and careful and thoughtful about the law.

00:58:10.040 I think she is going to be someone on the court who has, you know, the jurisprudence of a Scalia, but maybe a slightly softer tone.

00:58:18.900 And, you know, who knows, maybe that'll be something that even is compelling to some of her colleagues on the other side of the bench as well.

00:58:25.620 So thank you so much for watching.

00:58:29.000 And we'll talk to you hopefully again tomorrow and get a recap of what's happening today.

00:58:34.300 I don't see any trouble for her in the future, at least at this point.

00:58:38.900 Do you agree with that?

00:58:39.960 No, I think she's knocking it out of the park today in terms of her hearing. 0.96

00:58:44.340 And so I just think it's going to be hard pressed, I think, for anyone to come up with a good excuse not to confer maybe Coney Barrett Supreme Court.

00:58:51.740 She's going to be outstanding.

00:58:53.140 Thank you so much.

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01:00:12.240 We say welcome back to Mr. Stu Bregeer.

01:00:15.580 Thank you, Glenn.

01:00:16.320 I'm amazed to hear the media try to explain what Amy Coney Barrett's judicial philosophy is. 1.00

01:00:21.740 Listen to this clip from CBS explaining the difference between originalism and textualism.

01:00:27.900 For those of us who are not constitutional scholars, what's at the root of this debate over originalism or textualism?

01:00:34.620 Right, and I suspect we're going to be hearing a lot of those two words tomorrow.

01:00:40.040 I mean, this is kind of boilerplate, conservative, legal philosophy.

01:00:45.000 But Justice Scalia was the big proponent of it and really the big stickler for it.

01:00:49.900 It's where you look at the Constitution and the words of the Constitution and how the founders meant those words to be.

01:00:56.300 Not how it might be living like liberals think and adapt as our times change.

01:01:02.960 So a conservative like Scalia would say we've got to look at what the founders meant by that.

01:01:07.480 And if it's not in there, it's not in there.

01:01:09.200 And then Congress has to step up or the state governments and legislatures have to step up to make those kind of policy changes.

01:01:15.440 As far as textualism goes, that's how you look at federal statutes.

01:01:19.480 And there are a lot of liberals who say they're textualists, too.

01:01:22.000 That just doesn't always break conservative, liberal lines.

01:01:24.620 And that's when you look at the words of a statute and not what Congress might have meant or what the legislative history might show or what the purpose might have been, but what the words actually say.

01:01:35.440 Okay, so the conservative argument is what the founders meant when they did it and the words that are in the document.

01:01:42.380 How is there another argument other than this?

01:01:47.020 Well, the other is to look at the words of Congress.

01:01:52.040 Oh, it's like, okay, so you're admitting that the conservative argument here is to look at what was intended to happen and apply it.

01:02:02.520 Yeah, but it doesn't live.

01:02:04.040 It's not a living, breathing document.

01:02:05.600 So you can't have the judicial branch just change things because times have changed.

01:02:15.320 Right!

01:02:16.220 That's right.

01:02:17.080 Exactly right.

01:02:18.140 If we were in a society that didn't have a legislative branch, you could make an argument that you should have a living constitution that would change with the times.

01:02:28.600 But at any point, the legislative branch can change these things with the times.

01:02:36.120 Yes.

01:02:36.340 It was built into the document.

01:02:37.820 Yes.

01:02:38.160 So you can change things if you think it's important.

01:02:40.600 Yes.

01:02:40.860 You don't just get the judges to do it.

01:02:42.940 Right.

01:02:43.360 You just change it through the law.

01:02:46.720 Right.

01:02:47.700 You can amend the constitution.

01:02:50.060 Yes.

01:02:50.160 You can pass a law.

01:02:50.860 But here's the problem.

01:02:52.000 Here's the problem.

01:02:52.920 That's not popular.

01:02:54.400 You can't get...

01:02:55.520 It's hard.

01:02:56.040 Yeah.

01:02:56.480 You can't get enough people to say, hey, we should get rid of the Second Amendment. 1.00

01:03:00.460 So you need the judges to do that because they're not elected.

01:03:05.840 They don't have to worry about anything.

01:03:07.880 Right.

01:03:07.960 And Congress can just become popular and they can get reelected over and over again because

01:03:13.460 they've never done anything wrong.

01:03:15.420 See?

01:03:15.780 Well, not wrong exactly.

01:03:17.580 They've never done anything against the constitution because the judges are telling us what the

01:03:23.260 constitution means at...

01:03:25.100 What time is it now?

01:03:26.860 That way, once they say it, well, then I can go legislate some more my way.

01:03:32.760 I just...

01:03:33.140 I love this.

01:03:34.060 I know.

01:03:34.380 It's...

01:03:34.680 The conservative philosophy is to look at the words.

01:03:37.100 No, I know.

01:03:38.000 And then...

01:03:38.880 Okay.

01:03:39.180 And if it doesn't say that, then it's sent back to Congress where they say, you changed

01:03:45.080 the words.

01:03:45.980 Wow, that's... 0.99

01:03:47.500 What a conservative, crazy, crackpot idea. 0.82

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01:05:22.640 We're glad you're here.

01:05:24.280 There are so many things happening in our courts right now.

01:05:28.340 Between all of the legal wranglings that are happening, I think there are 300 or 500 court cases happening right now,

01:05:38.900 trying to get the election laws changed because the Democrats are filing all kinds of changes to our election laws.

01:05:48.600 And the Republicans are responding with their court cases to try to get those election laws held in place.

01:05:56.900 And we also have all of the lawsuits that are happening because of COVID.

01:06:01.240 The Christian community up in New York is coming after, again, Governor Cuomo because he has restrictions on religious gatherings.

01:06:13.780 And to make his point, he used photos and he said, these are just, look at the photos, look at the crowds, look at the crowds.

01:06:21.880 There were crowds of Jewish people at a funeral.

01:06:25.040 Look at that.

01:06:25.680 And that just happened there.

01:06:26.840 Look at what they're doing.

01:06:27.940 That's irresponsible.

01:06:29.020 Yet those pictures were from 2006.

01:06:34.240 What is happening to our religious freedom around the country?

01:06:39.000 A guy who really can help us answer that question, who fights it every single day, is Kelly Shackelford.

01:06:45.840 He's the president and CEO of First Liberty Institute and chief counsel of First Liberty Institute.

01:06:50.460 He's been in front of the Supreme Court over and over again.

01:06:52.660 Let me just start with the cases up in in California and in New York about religious freedom.

01:07:01.900 Kelly.

01:07:04.260 Glenn, thanks for having me on.

01:07:05.840 Yeah, we're we're in a real battle.

01:07:07.880 I don't know if everybody remembers back, but when this whole thing started with the pandemic, we realized this is really going to be a fight because we've never had any constitutional law in a pandemic.

01:07:19.640 Right.

01:07:20.180 I mean, there's no cases.

01:07:22.100 And everybody was seeing these pictures of, like, the guy throwing a baseball with his kids being handcuffed.

01:07:27.840 Correct.

01:07:28.320 Because he was in a park and the guy on the beach coming off all by himself on a surfboard being arrested.

01:07:33.620 And so we we tried to be really careful about the first case.

01:07:37.260 And we wanted it to be the right one because we're getting all kinds of churches calling us saying you won't believe what they're doing to us.

01:07:42.520 And we got what we thought was the right case.

01:07:45.580 And that was in Louisville.

01:07:47.160 It was a church that was trying to do an Easter service and they wanted to be together, but they wanted to be safe.

01:07:53.280 So they did a drive in service in their cars.

01:07:55.320 Right.

01:07:56.180 And and that was the mayor of Louisville, Kentucky, said that was a crime.

01:08:01.420 And the governor said they were going to send police officers to every church on Easter Sunday to write down the license plate of any car in any church parking lot.

01:08:10.480 And those people would be visited by the police and they would be quarantined to their home for 14 days.

01:08:15.900 And we went, OK, this is it.

01:08:17.120 This is China.

01:08:18.300 You know, we this is the case.

01:08:20.440 And we filed.

01:08:21.700 We got a great judge.

01:08:23.160 We got a great decision.

01:08:24.400 He said, look, the Constitution is in place in this country.

01:08:27.660 This country is built on religious freedom.

01:08:30.100 And we started there and we've now had about 10 victories in a row.

01:08:34.020 But what happened is a lot of other lawsuits started getting filed that weren't necessarily as thoughtful.

01:08:39.120 And they created a lot of precedent.

01:08:42.320 And, you know, Glenn, I've just got to be honest.

01:08:45.100 We're in a war right now all across the country of whether the government is going to control our churches.

01:08:50.600 And, you know, until we get something to the Supreme Court, I don't think we're going to have an answer because there are too many bad decisions to join the good decisions that we've won to know what's going to happen.

01:09:00.540 That is terrifying.

01:09:04.480 As somebody who, you know, goes to church on Sunday, that that is truly terrifying that we are facing a time when the government can tell you exactly what you can and cannot do at church.

01:09:18.300 It is.

01:09:20.620 It's, you know, I mean, because, look, if we come out of this and the law is that if a government official declares an emergency, then your Constitution is suspended while the emergency.

01:09:33.200 Well, you know, climate change will be an emergency and everything will be an emergency.

01:09:36.820 Right.

01:09:37.300 You don't really have any freedoms at that point.

01:09:39.620 And and that's not the way the law is supposed to work.

01:09:44.640 You've had the case.

01:09:45.780 I know you probably even talked about it.

01:09:47.320 The case that came out of Nevada, where they were letting the casinos open, but not the churches.

01:09:52.500 Right.

01:09:52.700 And so, you know, and they wouldn't take it.

01:09:56.160 The Supreme Court wouldn't take the case.

01:09:57.600 So I would say two things.

01:10:00.080 We've got a great case that we just won last week in Washington, D.C., the first one on behalf of the church.

01:10:06.440 In this case, the church there, they allowed thousands of people.

01:10:11.000 The mayor went with them to protest, but they would not.

01:10:14.700 It was illegal for a church to hold an outdoor church service with over 100 people.

01:10:21.080 And so it's just clear hypocrisy.

01:10:23.580 And so we actually won a federal injunction on Friday of last week, and we're hoping we can get that to the Supreme Court.

01:10:31.240 But we've got to get the right case to the Supreme Court.

01:10:33.840 But also, if Amy Coney Barrett is on the Supreme Court, I feel very strongly about her on religious freedom.

01:10:40.560 I think we won't have to worry about these close decisions with Roberts, you know, saying that it's okay to open casinos, but not churches.

01:10:48.960 We'll win these cases.

01:10:51.480 And so there's sort of a lot going on at the same time.

01:10:54.080 But I think you have to look at the Amy Coney Barrett thing from a religious freedom standpoint, in addition to everything else.

01:11:00.440 And I think she will be great on religious freedom, which is the timing could not be better.

01:11:06.100 So tell me what what her appointment does to the court.

01:11:09.960 And, for instance, if the the Senate and the administration area, if they have the House and the Senate and the administration, let's just say that's a landslide for the left.

01:11:20.860 They are all saying they're going to take guns.

01:11:23.540 Do we have the votes now in the Supreme Court to hold to the Second Amendment, the First Amendment?

01:11:31.060 Do we I what's it look like?

01:11:33.360 I think I think we do for sure.

01:11:35.140 I mean, she's she's written just an incredible dissent on the Second Amendment already on the Seventh Circuit.

01:11:41.160 She's shown her true colors.

01:11:42.800 I mean, she she is an originalist.

01:11:44.880 She's a Scalia. 0.98

01:11:45.860 She's a she said, don't tell me what the country wants. 0.95

01:11:49.160 That's not my job.

01:11:50.600 My job is to say, what does the Constitution say?

01:11:54.000 What did the founders put in place?

01:11:56.300 What does it mean?

01:11:57.520 You look to the original meaning of the text.

01:11:59.360 You look to the original meaning of the statute, not to the PC or whatever people are in favor of.

01:12:05.380 She would say, just like Scalia, if you want to change laws, then change laws, change the Constitution.

01:12:11.120 But don't ask me to change the Constitution.

01:12:13.560 And she's very it was in a case, actually, where it was about a situation where kind of the PC position would be, oh, no, you know, God's been in prison.

01:12:22.800 So he shouldn't have a right to to to have a firearm, you know, once you've been in prison and her approach was wonder, what does the Constitution say?

01:12:31.440 And here she is dissenting.

01:12:33.820 She's pretty fearless on following the law.

01:12:36.320 So I feel really strongly about where she would be.

01:12:39.760 And again, Roberts has kind of been jumping back and forth on a lot of things recently and has made it sort of a four four with Roberts jumping around.

01:12:47.320 That would be over if she's on the court. 1.00

01:12:49.960 But you'd have five conservatives who really believe you go to the original meaning.

01:12:55.900 And that's going to really bring us right back to the Constitution and those principles and really the foundations of our country, which I think will be a great thing for our country.

01:13:04.080 Kelly, what does it mean when we're looking at a party who says they're going to get rid of the filibuster?

01:13:11.220 They won't deny that they'll pack the court.

01:13:14.320 What is this election really about?

01:13:17.180 It's about I mean, if people I don't know if people understand what court packing is, but basically it's when you come in, you say, well, you know, I don't like the fact that there are more conservatives on the court now than there used to be.

01:13:31.000 And therefore, I'm going to add three, four or five seats to the Supreme Court, which you'd have to you'd have to have the House, the Senate, the presidency.

01:13:39.080 You'd also have to destroy the filibuster.

01:13:41.120 But that's what some of the Democrats are talking about doing.

01:13:43.900 And, of course, what Biden and Harris have not been answering.

01:13:47.220 That is a decision.

01:13:48.600 People need to understand this.

01:13:49.560 That is a decision to destroy the Supreme Court, because if you add people to the Supreme Court to have a partisan advantage, then the next party that comes in is going to do the same thing.

01:14:00.820 And so if the Republicans come back, they'll add five or six seats.

01:14:04.060 The court is no longer a legal body at that point.

01:14:06.780 It's a political body.

01:14:08.280 And you have taken the Supreme Court and said it's done.

01:14:11.360 So people need to understand.

01:14:14.200 I mean, number one, Biden needs to answer this question.

01:14:17.320 It should be required of every voter should say there's no way you even have a chance of being a president unless you answer this question.

01:14:25.060 If the answer is, I'm going to destroy the Supreme Court, then unless you're wanting to overthrow the government, at least a third of the government, that's just not a decision I would ever make.

01:14:35.960 I mean, whatever your beliefs are on these things, the rule of law will be incredible damage.

01:14:42.440 I don't know what will happen in our country, but it's taking one of the three branches of government and really pretty much putting it underground.

01:14:50.040 We're talking to Kelly Shackelford, president and CEO of First Liberty Institute.

01:14:55.160 Kelly, there is a story out.

01:14:56.780 There's, in fact, two different stories about two different groups.

01:15:01.060 One of them is shut down D.C., and they have put out a guide stopping the coup.

01:15:07.420 Two, preventing Donald Trump from stealing the election and remaining in office is likely to take mass, sustained, disruptive movements all over the country.

01:15:16.060 We need to, in order to really win, we need to force some pillars of power, business, military, media and other major institutions to decide to side with the people or at least get out of the way.

01:15:26.840 If every day life goes on, a despot will not leave power.

01:15:30.800 There will be no incentive for real systematic changes.

01:15:33.520 You want to think about what it might take to stop business as usual.

01:15:39.040 They are, they are, there are these groups that do not believe in the electoral college, do not believe in the court system, do not believe in the American Constitution that I can find.

01:15:56.340 And they are saying they want to overthrow these things.

01:15:59.980 They want the destruction.

01:16:01.060 Can you tell me where the legal definition of insurrection kicks in?

01:16:08.620 Well, I mean, that's definitely it.

01:16:10.340 I mean, if those things happened, I did see the president comment on this.

01:16:15.080 And he said those, if that happens after the election, that will be shut down, you know, immediately.

01:16:20.620 Now, we'll see.

01:16:21.620 I hope so.

01:16:22.340 We've had 21 different presidents use, you know, the power they have under the Insurrection Act to actually do that.

01:16:32.120 I think President Trump has been trying to respect federalism at some sort and also not, you know, they want to make him a dictator.

01:16:40.940 So I didn't think he wants to walk into looking like that.

01:16:43.320 So he's been incredibly restrained, I think, on what he's done in these situations like in Seattle and all these.

01:16:50.480 But I think if it's after the election and that's attempted, I think he'll exercise the power that he should and any president should to put any of that down.

01:16:59.540 I hope and I pray that it would that nobody in the country really.

01:17:03.120 I mean, these are this is a lunatic fringe in our country, and they shouldn't be allowed to roam free and engage in violence and looting and all this thing.

01:17:11.780 I don't think the American people I think they've had enough of that, so much so that the Democrats have even a little bit started to back away, even though that some of their some of their base wants them to not do so.

01:17:24.760 Kelly, thank you so much.

01:17:25.640 Are you foreseeing any problems with Barrett's confirmation?

01:17:29.720 Not yet.

01:17:30.280 I mean, it's bizarre, the approach that is being taken, which is to say that she's going to that if Barrett's appointed to the court, that she's going to take everybody's health care away.

01:17:40.720 It's just it is. 1.00

01:17:42.400 I just sometimes I'm amazed that do they think people are that stupid? 1.00

01:17:47.200 I mean, I I it's just a bizarre argument. 1.00

01:17:51.140 I mean, the case they're talking about that's up there.

01:17:53.880 Amy Coney Barrett hasn't has never talked about any of the issues in that case.

01:17:57.420 It's about severability, a lot of other things.

01:17:59.360 The odds are huge that that case won't strike down the ACA in a non-severable way.

01:18:06.660 So all of it's false and it has really nothing to do with her.

01:18:11.640 But they've just decided that's their best political issue is the issue of health care.

01:18:16.360 So they're seeing if they can scare people by saying if you allow her on the court, you'll all lose your health care and you'll die of the coronavirus. 1.00

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01:18:27.440 You know, I don't think they are either.

01:18:28.560 But I'm beginning to wonder.

01:18:30.080 I am.

01:18:30.740 You know what?

01:18:31.460 We'll find out in November.

01:18:33.380 We'll find out on November 3rd.

01:18:35.020 Thank you so much, Kelly.

01:18:36.320 I appreciate it.

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01:20:30.680 You're listening to Glenn Beck.

01:20:32.660 This, this is the Glenn Beck program.

01:20:39.420 There's so much to talk about, and we're really just kind of staying focused today on the confirmation hearing of Amy Coney Barrett, which I think seems to be going really well.

01:20:52.220 She's, I mean, she just seems bulletproof.

01:20:54.880 So far.

01:20:55.760 And it doesn't seem like there's really anything being fired.

01:20:58.720 I saw yesterday they just took this approach of, well, we have a lot of people watching.

01:21:03.520 Let's just make generic election arguments.

01:21:06.440 Right.

01:21:07.120 With a big audience.

01:21:08.240 And instead of trying to take down Amy Coney Barrett, let's just try to win this election, which is a bizarre, I mean, usually they have some trickery.

01:21:15.660 I am not sleeping on this.

01:21:17.540 I still assume something creepy is going to happen.

01:21:20.160 Something is going to happen.

01:21:21.400 I mean.

01:21:22.340 I mean, they haven't even accused her of gang rape yet.

01:21:24.320 I know.

01:21:24.760 It's weird.

01:21:25.400 What are they doing?

01:21:25.700 This is a Supreme Court hearing.

01:21:26.840 It's like, what do they know that we don't know?

01:21:28.680 You know what I mean?

01:21:29.620 It's really, it's a really weird thing.

01:21:33.260 You know, I have six, six seconds left.

01:21:35.440 I could at least do this.

01:21:36.400 But here's Biden yesterday, confidence, you know, calling Romney, who he couldn't remember, a Mormon.

01:21:42.920 Listen to this.

01:21:44.000 If you may remember, I got in trouble when we were running against the senator who was a Mormon.

01:21:49.560 Mormon.

01:21:50.160 The governor.

01:21:51.160 No, he was a governor.

01:21:52.000 He was, no, he was.

01:21:54.760 Wow.

01:21:55.780 Unbelievable.

01:21:56.300 Wow.

01:21:56.680 He also announced yesterday he's apparently also running for Senate.

01:22:00.300 Oh.

01:22:00.760 As well as the president.

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01:23:45.860 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

01:23:50.420 Well, hello, America.

01:23:54.420 As if that's your real name.

01:23:56.960 Oh, yes.

01:23:57.640 I was there for Indigenous Day.

01:24:00.780 Christopher Columbus.

01:24:03.060 Well, hopefully things will get better and we'll have some more common sense and stability

01:24:09.520 once we have Barrett and this confirmation hearing behind us.

01:24:13.880 And she is on the Supreme Court.

01:24:16.200 Things seem to be going well.

01:24:18.460 There's no gotchas here. 1.00

01:24:20.420 And she is just cool, calm, and collected.

01:24:23.300 It ain't over yet.

01:24:24.560 They've only done two hours on 11 hours of her just having to sit there and look at people 0.96

01:24:30.180 like, oh, yes, no, I really respect what you're saying because you really understand what I do for a living.

01:24:36.620 I don't know how they sit through it.

01:24:38.580 But we're going to actually go for a flashback on Clarence Thomas and Ginsburg saying, I come here as a judge, not as an advocate.

01:24:48.360 Don't ask me what I'm for or against.

01:24:51.080 Just look at my record and my judicial record.

01:24:54.460 And they did.

01:24:55.740 Are we doing that now?

01:24:57.620 Absolutely not.

01:24:59.400 We have that and some really good news for your kids if you're trying to teach history.

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01:26:37.960 Some exciting news.

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01:26:50.120 I'm going to be showing you some really exciting things that are going to be kicked off immediately after that night that will help you and your family get your arms around the Constitution, history, our founding fathers.

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01:27:15.340 Also, there's some good news.

01:27:17.240 If you want to try to teach your kids about Ben Franklin, and I mean the little kids about Ben Franklin or Anne Frank, there are two new books out by our good friend, Brad Meltzer.

01:27:27.340 And he joins us now.

01:27:28.600 Hello, Brad.

01:27:30.360 Good to hear your voice, my friend.

01:27:31.880 Good to hear you.

01:27:33.320 How are things?

01:27:35.500 Nothing going on in the world.

01:27:36.840 How about you?

01:27:37.540 You know what?

01:27:38.820 It's so hard to find things to talk about.

01:27:42.720 You know, what's crazy is, you know, we plan these books two years in advance.

01:27:47.880 And here we are talking about, you know, tearing down a statue of Abraham Lincoln.

01:27:53.760 And we've got a book on Ben Franklin and the founders.

01:27:57.740 And a report comes out last week that says millennials don't know the basic facts about the Holocaust.

01:28:03.140 And we have a book on Anne Frank.

01:28:04.380 And I'm like, sometimes the universe produces the heroes you need.

01:28:08.620 It's not the heroes you want, but it's heroes you need.

01:28:10.840 Yeah, it's amazing.

01:28:12.880 I really have found divine providence in some of the stuff that, you know, we've done.

01:28:17.280 I just put out the book, Arguing with Socialists.

01:28:20.000 And then this summer hit.

01:28:21.660 It's like, wow.

01:28:23.540 Exactly.

01:28:24.280 You get what you need.

01:28:25.780 Yeah.

01:28:26.140 Holy cow. 0.89

01:28:27.340 So, Brad, tell me about tell me about the books.

01:28:30.120 This is part of your Xavier Riddle and the Secret Museum series that that's on PBS.

01:28:36.120 I wanted to carry that so badly on the blaze, but I'm not rich enough for Brad Meltzer's programs.

01:28:42.520 Listen, we've done our shows and I love you for it.

01:28:45.120 You know, as you know, I started writing these kids books because I wanted to give my kids better heroes to look up to and give them heroes.

01:28:51.720 We could teach them kindness and compassion and character.

01:28:55.500 And again, look at the world.

01:28:57.500 Anti-Semitism is at its 40-year high.

01:29:01.060 Our kids need hope right now.

01:29:02.820 And the best way to teach that is with Anne Frank, the little girl who hides from the Nazis in an attic and still believes that people are good at heart.

01:29:11.740 And I want my kids to know that even in the darkest places, you can still find light.

01:29:17.520 That's what hope is, Glenn, right?

01:29:19.060 Yeah.

01:29:19.260 It's like a fire that burns within you.

01:29:21.080 And when you put it on, nothing puts it out.

01:29:23.320 And I need my daughter to have that lesson.

01:29:25.260 I need my sons to have that lesson.

01:29:27.480 So, I am Anne Frank is that illustrated kids book to teach hope for our kids right now.

01:29:32.240 And I am Benjamin Franklin.

01:29:34.900 Yeah, Benjamin Franklin.

01:29:36.360 We all know the stories of him with electricity.

01:29:38.580 Great experiments.

01:29:40.000 But to me, his greatest experiment is the experiments that he does on himself.

01:29:45.180 He actually spends his whole life trying to improve himself.

01:29:48.420 He even has rules.

01:29:49.760 You and I have talked about him privately, like him and George Washington have rules to live by.

01:29:53.120 His rules are, one, be frugal.

01:29:55.440 Don't spend money you don't have.

01:29:56.920 Two, tell the truth.

01:29:58.360 Three, work hard.

01:29:59.800 But in four, don't speak badly about other people.

01:30:03.280 Look at the world right now, where they're tearing down the founding fathers.

01:30:07.580 You know, oh, this, you know, Ben Franklin owned slaves.

01:30:09.480 And I'm like, yes, but he also, at the end of his life, was the president of an organization

01:30:14.560 that stood against slavery.

01:30:16.680 So, how can you say he's bad?

01:30:18.440 Or is he good?

01:30:19.320 Or is he just complicated like all of us?

01:30:21.340 And our kids need that lesson that rather than pointing fingers at everyone else, Ben Franklin

01:30:25.840 knew if you want to change the world, you start with yourself.

01:30:29.800 And it moves out from there, rippling outward.

01:30:31.860 He was phenomenal.

01:30:33.360 Can you think of anyone alive today?

01:30:36.120 I mean, I think one of the most impressive people alive today that would fit in the founding

01:30:40.200 era would be maybe Elon Musk.

01:30:44.320 Do you know what?

01:30:45.180 And he would be a...

01:30:46.580 Breath of ideas, 100%.

01:30:48.000 Ben Franklin, I mean, you know, it was one of the hardest books to write because it's a

01:30:53.440 kid's book.

01:30:53.980 Obviously, we're trying to entertain and educate your kids and give them values.

01:30:57.040 But I'm like, do I talk about electricity?

01:30:59.760 Do I talk about his inventions?

01:31:01.920 Do I talk about the science he does?

01:31:03.880 Do I talk about the greatest experiment, the American experiment?

01:31:06.500 He literally edits the Declaration of Independence.

01:31:10.340 And George Washington, Thomas Jefferson writes the first draft, gives it to Ben Franklin.

01:31:16.040 And we showed this in the book.

01:31:17.320 Ben Franklin is like, hmm, this part you have here, we hold these truths to be sacred and

01:31:23.020 undeniable.

01:31:24.180 What if we change it to this?

01:31:25.960 We hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal.

01:31:30.120 That's Benjamin Franklin's edit.

01:31:32.040 And I need our kids to see that.

01:31:34.360 That is how you teach your kids to be great Americans.

01:31:37.380 I have an 1836, or is it...

01:31:41.160 No, it might be 1826, a version of the Declaration of Independence first draft.

01:31:47.660 Have you ever seen it?

01:31:49.520 Have you ever seen that...

01:31:50.300 You and I, when we were together last time, I almost jumped the desk for the key.

01:31:55.200 It is killing me that I haven't seen it.

01:31:57.620 I have been to the National Archives in their secret private room where I saw their copy.

01:32:02.840 So you've seen the first draft.

01:32:04.460 Have you ever read it?

01:32:05.460 I have seen the first draft, yes.

01:32:06.860 I could know.

01:32:07.840 I couldn't read.

01:32:08.340 I mean, I've read online the translations of it, and you can see the edits that change

01:32:12.880 in there.

01:32:13.380 Right.

01:32:13.680 And the third page, I urge you to go back and read the third page.

01:32:19.080 The longest usurptation or the longest problem that they had with the king was his treatment

01:32:27.500 of African Americans and Africans as slaves. 0.74

01:32:31.440 And it is a whole paragraph on it.

01:32:35.500 And it's...

01:32:36.340 Thomas Jefferson writes it.

01:32:37.800 His handwriting changes.

01:32:39.400 He capitalizes words like men when he's calling, you know, the... 0.78

01:32:44.520 And then he puts these men up for auction on the auction block.

01:32:49.320 I mean, it's phenomenal.

01:32:51.180 And completely changes...

01:32:52.440 I've got to go back.

01:32:53.280 I have to go back.

01:32:53.840 I mean, and the thing about Ben Franklin is, you know, when I get my edits back from my

01:32:58.880 editor and I'm always, like, griping about him, I'm like, Ben Franklin's editing Thomas

01:33:02.480 Jefferson at the height of his powers.

01:33:04.800 I know.

01:33:04.900 Yeah.

01:33:05.120 I can't complain about that anymore.

01:33:07.480 And the thing about Franklin, just to go back to your Elon Musk comment, is he does it

01:33:11.300 his whole life.

01:33:12.160 One of the great stories that my kids reacted to is Franklin's a little boy.

01:33:16.340 And when Benjamin Franklin's a little boy, he used to love swimming.

01:33:19.180 And he realizes if you have bigger hands and bigger feet, you can move faster in the

01:33:22.360 water, you can paddle faster.

01:33:23.740 So he makes these homemade, like, kind of oven mitts, big mitts, and then he puts them

01:33:28.180 on his feet, too, like flippers, and it's just flying through the water.

01:33:32.060 This is as a little kid.

01:33:33.940 And my youngest, who's very creative and likes to color and play Legos, I'm like, I need

01:33:38.380 you to see what you can do when you unleash creativity.

01:33:42.500 That's what Ben Franklin gives us.

01:33:45.060 Was there a story about him getting in trouble?

01:33:47.360 Because he was always in trouble, I think, as a kid.

01:33:49.200 And he was, like, damming up a river or something.

01:33:54.800 He was taking rocks and damming up a river.

01:33:57.940 And that's when finally his parents, I believe, said, you're going to work.

01:34:03.060 You're going to work.

01:34:03.960 And sent him to a...

01:34:05.200 It depends on the work as a kid.

01:34:06.160 The thing that he does also by a river is he runs his kite by the river.

01:34:10.600 And there's a kite.

01:34:11.280 Again, you know what he does later in life with a little boy.

01:34:13.580 Runs the kite on the river.

01:34:14.920 Or when it goes in the air, he jumps in the river, ties it around his waist to test the

01:34:19.460 theory that it will pull him across the lake, which it does.

01:34:22.980 And as you said, soon after that, the parents are like, this is what a blacksmith is.

01:34:27.080 Get to work.

01:34:27.760 You know, they're taking him to work.

01:34:29.960 But, you know, again, we spend so much time as a culture right now arguing about our founding

01:34:36.580 fathers, arguing over World War II, arguing over the Civil War.

01:34:39.420 And we have to remember that our kids see these arguments.

01:34:42.780 And we have to remember that if we don't, you know, it's not your school's job to teach

01:34:48.060 your kids the values that you want.

01:34:49.420 It's your job.

01:34:50.080 You got to do it.

01:34:50.720 I wish the school did it too.

01:34:51.900 But we have to be in control of making sure that our kids see the American history and

01:34:58.760 the amazingness and the beauty of it, to see the hope of Anne Frank in the lowest moment

01:35:03.880 in life and still says, you know what?

01:35:06.360 I believe in good.

01:35:07.480 Because there is something to that.

01:35:09.060 And there is something to each one of these heroes.

01:35:12.420 And I love that this series helps us.

01:35:15.000 You build libraries for your kids, your grandkids, your nieces, your nephews at this time when

01:35:18.980 history feels like it's under siege.

01:35:21.680 You know, I think it really does our kids an injustice to, you know, I'm a huge fan of

01:35:26.820 Winston Churchill.

01:35:28.360 And Churchill led this amazing life.

01:35:32.680 But if you read the biographies of Churchill from the Indian perspective, he's a pastor.

01:35:41.980 He's really, he's really a bad guy.

01:35:44.780 Is he good?

01:35:45.320 Is he good?

01:35:46.000 Is he bad?

01:35:46.540 Or is he complicated like the rest of us?

01:35:48.420 Right.

01:35:48.540 We can't just go in and say, you know, here's my belief.

01:35:53.180 If you're looking for perfection, everyone fails.

01:35:55.880 The only thing perfect is God.

01:35:57.580 Everyone else, take a number.

01:36:00.180 And by not teaching that, by not showing our kids that they are flawed individuals, we set

01:36:07.000 them up for a life of misery because...

01:36:10.380 A hundred percent.

01:36:11.800 And that's the problem is what we do is we are, like, listen, there are voices that have

01:36:17.800 been marginalized that need to be told, like you just said, look at Native Americans, look

01:36:22.060 at indigenous people, look at what Winston Churchill does. 0.87

01:36:25.060 That's the bad side.

01:36:26.460 He does also amazing things.

01:36:28.440 Yeah.

01:36:28.600 But every book we do, when we do I Am Abraham Lincoln, we show you eight elections that he

01:36:33.920 loses.

01:36:34.260 When George Washington goes, we show you him losing his first election.

01:36:38.120 That doesn't show weakness.

01:36:39.580 It shows your kid how to get back up again.

01:36:42.120 And when you do that for your kid with our I Am series, that's how you teach your kids

01:36:45.940 to fly.

01:36:47.500 Brad Meltzer, thank you.

01:36:49.080 I'm so proud to be a friend of yours, and I just am such a big fan.

01:36:53.700 And it's always a pleasure to have you on.

01:36:56.700 I'd like to speak to you off air here in the next couple of days.

01:36:59.380 I'm launching an education series, and we're going to have just great teachers teach certain

01:37:05.520 things.

01:37:05.920 And I'd love to invite you to be one of the first teachers to...

01:37:08.660 I would love it.

01:37:09.500 We're doing what Sandra Day O'Connor, with Justice O'Connor's organization, iCivics, asking

01:37:13.120 kids for their best ideas to change the world.

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01:39:11.460 You know, I think it's, you know, when Leahy was asking about the efforts to recriminalize

01:39:28.420 homosexuality to Amy Coney Barrett, I think that's on the top of everybody's mind.

01:39:34.160 You know, I think everybody is.

01:39:36.220 That's what everybody's talking about. 1.00

01:39:37.720 Gee, if we could just throw homosexuals in jail. 1.00

01:39:40.180 It's on the verge of happening at any moment. 1.00

01:39:42.160 At any moment.

01:39:43.060 At any moment.

01:39:45.140 That was like when, and he's up for re-election now, so I know, it was six years ago, but when

01:39:50.060 they just, out of nowhere, came out and they were just like, uh, Cory Gardner is going to

01:39:54.840 ban birth control.

01:39:56.200 And we're all just like, wait, what?

01:39:57.880 Like, ban birth control?

01:40:00.100 Who the hell is talking about banning birth control?

01:40:02.140 There's literally no, that's not happening.

01:40:05.400 Sarah, do you still have in the archives that ad about banning birth control?

01:40:09.340 Look for it.

01:40:10.220 Yeah, that was unbelievable.

01:40:11.480 Now they're talking about banning Obamacare.

01:40:13.940 But I want to give you something that I found at CMS.gov, that's Center for Medicare and

01:40:18.460 Medicaid Services dot gov.

01:40:20.640 Okay.

01:40:21.640 The U.S. Census Bureau just released their annual report on the health insurance coverage

01:40:26.480 in the United States, which shows the number of uninsured Americans rose from 2017 to 2018.

01:40:31.760 As usual, critics of President Trump have been quick to blame the administration's health

01:40:35.640 care policies for this increase.

01:40:37.100 But a review of the key facts suggests that rising uninsured rates stem largely from the

01:40:42.160 Obamacare failure to deliver affordable health insurance premiums and has created a new class 0.99

01:40:47.760 of uninsured.

01:40:49.460 When Obamacare promised affordable health insurance for every American and even penalized

01:40:53.420 those who refused to buy it, the law did nothing to control the underlying costs.

01:40:57.980 As a result, when President Trump took office in 2017, average individual health market insurance

01:41:05.480 premiums in states using health care dot gov had already doubled compared to what it was

01:41:12.720 in 2013, the year before Obamacare's main regulations took effect.

01:41:17.540 In fact, the average premiums went up by another 26 percent in 2018.

01:41:26.180 At the same time, individual market premiums were spiking out of control.

01:41:32.000 The the the substantial enrollment drop among unsubsidized people in the individual market

01:41:39.700 who do not receive federal premium tax credits in just two years from 2016 to 2018.

01:41:44.980 unsubsidized on enrollment declined by 40 percent.

01:41:51.280 And they're saying it's because they use the example 60 year old couple in Grand Island,

01:41:56.600 Nebraska, make seventy thousand dollars a year.

01:41:58.920 It's slightly too much to qualify for Obamacare's premium subsidy.

01:42:02.660 So they have to pay thirty eight thousand dollars half of their yearly income into the premium

01:42:09.900 to buy a silver plan, which has an eleven thousand dollar deductible.

01:42:15.860 That's insanity.

01:42:17.620 Jeez.

01:42:18.360 Just insanity.

01:42:19.780 This is a total disaster.

01:42:21.220 And you know how you know that is because every Democratic candidate ran against it.

01:42:26.980 Yes.

01:42:27.160 I mean, even Joe Biden, who was the only one who would stand on stage and actually defend Obamacare

01:42:32.680 in in words, was still proposing a massive series of changes to it because it was failing

01:42:40.880 so many people.

01:42:43.280 And somehow the the guy who was at least partially responsible for Obamacare is now the nominee.

01:42:51.180 Yeah.

01:42:51.300 And and running against the Obamacare that we have now.

01:42:55.560 Yeah.

01:42:56.120 But, you know, saying, well, they didn't do anything.

01:42:58.120 They didn't do anything.

01:42:59.720 Um, right.

01:43:01.120 Because this was supposed to work.

01:43:02.320 Right.

01:43:03.140 Remember that?

01:43:03.880 Or was this designed to fail from the beginning, Joe?

01:43:07.180 So you could have a single saying that at the time.

01:43:09.440 I remember saying that this was actually designed to fail and that they'll come back very quickly

01:43:13.320 with a much bigger government program.

01:43:15.640 Do you remember hearing any host say that over and over and over and over again back

01:43:20.860 in 2008, 2009?

01:43:22.140 No, I remember that guy who was saying that there was going to be uprisings and the Islamists,

01:43:27.160 the communists, the anarchists.

01:43:29.260 That guy's annoying.

01:43:29.960 Yeah.

01:43:30.340 That guy's annoying.

01:43:31.400 We'll join together to overthrow the stability of the United States and the Western world.

01:43:35.880 Remember him?

01:43:36.640 Oh, I do remember that.

01:43:37.720 Oh, he was so wrong.

01:43:38.920 How crazy is it that you're seeing normal political rallies spiced in with violence from

01:43:45.680 the left constantly, constantly, whenever people are marching for their right to open

01:43:49.680 their business, there's a left or left-wing group that's there to burn things down, to 0.90

01:43:55.980 break windows, to shoot people and kill them because they are wearing a red hat or whatever 0.99

01:44:01.020 the cause of the day is. 1.00

01:44:02.180 No, that was a security guard.

01:44:03.320 He has no...

01:44:04.740 Oh, you're acting as if this is the only instance.

01:44:07.540 Oh, I know.

01:44:07.840 This is the most recent instance.

01:44:09.100 No, I know.

01:44:09.760 But it is not...

01:44:10.660 It's been pretty regular occurrence in these riots.

01:44:14.400 And yet, the media refuses to cover things, refuses to tell the truth about things.

01:44:21.460 I mean, Kyle Rittenhouse is a household name.

01:44:24.600 That guy was attacked.

01:44:26.140 He was attacked.

01:44:27.000 He only fired after they were coming after him with a hammer and a gun.

01:44:32.320 Mm-hmm.

01:44:33.800 But the other guy, who I don't even know their name because it's not a household,

01:44:37.840 name because nobody's really reporting on it, shot him in the head.

01:44:42.180 And he was a child molester, right? 0.71

01:44:44.980 The guy that Rittenhouse... 0.73

01:44:46.860 Oh, yeah.

01:44:47.200 He had some sexual assault history.

01:44:49.100 Yeah.

01:44:49.300 These are not people that you'd want to associate with.

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01:46:26.980 Wow.

01:46:27.500 This is the Glenn Beck program.

01:46:35.040 There's a couple of things going on that are big news.

01:46:38.700 Stu and I were just, I was giving him an update.

01:46:40.480 He's been gone for the last couple of weeks due to a COVID scare.

01:46:45.280 Everybody in the family is fine, though, right?

01:46:47.100 We're fine.

01:46:47.540 We did all have it.

01:46:48.280 It was, but it was.

01:46:49.300 You did have it, too?

01:46:50.020 Oh, yeah, we did have it.

01:46:50.760 We all tested positive.

01:46:52.380 I thought you didn't.

01:46:53.260 My first test was negative, and then I did test positive a couple of times after that.

01:46:58.180 Was it like the plague?

01:47:00.180 I mean, did you lose limbs?

01:47:02.220 We did not.

01:47:02.600 How many family members did you lose?

01:47:04.540 In this particular instance, none.

01:47:06.240 None.

01:47:06.820 However, we were all asymptomatic.

01:47:09.400 Basically, it was nothing at all for us, thankfully.

01:47:13.300 Yeah.

01:47:13.680 I know that's not the case for everybody, but it does happen.

01:47:16.200 And it's bad, you know, when older people get it, it's bad, and, you know, we have to

01:47:21.580 pay attention to those people, but most people now that are getting it, it's very, very weak

01:47:25.820 if you do get it.

01:47:28.240 And, you know, maybe the time to get it is right now with a weaker strain.

01:47:33.400 Maybe.

01:47:33.780 I don't know.

01:47:34.140 Yeah, I don't know.

01:47:34.980 I mean, I think we're also getting a lot better at handling it.

01:47:37.320 I think, you know, we're getting to the point now where the death rate is about half of

01:47:41.460 what it was at the beginning.

01:47:41.920 We're not freaking out by it anymore.

01:47:43.420 It's not, we know, we know enough to treat it.

01:47:48.020 Still dangerous, still significant, and still a big threat.

01:47:51.120 I mean, we're still, you know, seven, eight hundred people a day are still dying on average,

01:47:55.780 but that, you know, it's a lot, that's down quite a bit from 3,000.

01:47:58.980 Yeah.

01:47:59.340 So, hopefully we're on the right side of it.

01:48:01.780 Did you blame Trump?

01:48:02.520 Oh, yes, I did.

01:48:03.540 You did?

01:48:03.920 Okay, good, good, good, good.

01:48:04.840 I mean, I got it on the same day.

01:48:06.820 I assume it was his fault.

01:48:08.400 Well, probably was.

01:48:10.100 Probably was.

01:48:10.880 Did you see the new study out that says most people who are getting it, like, what is

01:48:15.380 it, two-thirds of the people who are getting it wore masks?

01:48:18.620 Oh, yeah.

01:48:18.820 They think they're getting it from the masks?

01:48:19.920 So, it was a self-reported study, so people saying they wore them all the time, whether

01:48:23.340 that's true or not, but I think it was 85%.

01:48:25.660 I think it was 85%.

01:48:27.280 Now, of course, there's mandates all over the place, so you kind of, you have no choice

01:48:30.620 but to wear them.

01:48:31.280 Right, but most people are not wearing it right.

01:48:32.780 I mean, it's down below their nose most times.

01:48:35.280 I mean, Joe Biden took his mask off to cough.

01:48:39.400 I saw that into his hand.

01:48:40.480 Yeah.

01:48:40.760 Do we have that video?

01:48:41.900 This is the craziest thing.

01:48:43.780 Takes his mask off.

01:48:44.480 Everyone's included on the deal.

01:48:45.940 He's wearing it below his nose anyway.

01:48:47.600 The kinds of investment.

01:48:50.620 He takes it down to cough.

01:48:52.680 Now, by the way, he's wearing mirrored sunglasses and a mask.

01:48:57.360 He could have a stand-in at this point.

01:48:59.420 We can't see his eyes.

01:49:01.020 We can't see his face.

01:49:02.200 We can't see his expression.

01:49:03.340 It could be a stand-in, a voice impersonator.

01:49:06.580 That's what they should do.

01:49:08.180 They should come up with one of those face shields.

01:49:11.100 They have those face shields that have little pretty designs on them.

01:49:14.240 You could give him the mask, the sunglasses, the face shield.

01:49:18.640 You could maybe tint the face shield enough.

01:49:20.400 You wouldn't even know who's there.

01:49:21.380 You wouldn't know it.

01:49:22.100 You wouldn't know it.

01:49:22.660 You just run a tape.

01:49:24.300 If I were them, that's a good strategy for the Biden campaign.

01:49:27.660 It is.

01:49:29.180 He is not doing real well.

01:49:32.420 Let me just give you an update quickly, and then I want to talk about the polls.

01:49:36.660 An update on two stories that I read today.

01:49:41.420 First of all, I don't know if you've seen the news story from AnnMagazine.com about the coup plotters that considered never allowing Trump to be inaugurated.

01:49:53.420 This comes from a former senior Department of Defense official and said,

01:49:59.600 In the wake of Donald Trump's surprise victory in November 16th, a national intelligence estimate was rushed through, pushing the false Russian collusion narrative and asserting as the judgment of the intelligence community as a whole that Russia had not only interfered in the election, but had done so in order to assist Donald Trump and help him become president.

01:50:19.480 Now, we know that none of that.

01:50:20.480 Now, we know that none of that was true.

01:50:23.040 We also know that the Obama administration knew that wasn't true at the time, not just the administration.

01:50:30.220 Obama himself knew.

01:50:32.720 According, according to this senior Defense Department official, they were working on the idea that they would would not allow the president to become president.

01:50:50.220 All work of the NIE was done at top secret level with only a handful of individuals having access to what was written.

01:50:57.480 Objections to the conclusions reached were dismissed on the basis that Mr. Brennan, Mr. Comey, Mr. Clapper had personally written the NIE findings and recommendations and would handle all interagency input themselves.

01:51:11.380 There was no room for any discussion.

01:51:14.220 On November 10th, the senior official speaking received a phone call in his office at the Pentagon on a secure phone.

01:51:22.380 The call was from the Department of Defense Undersecretary's Office that coordinated attendance and participation in interagency meetings at the White House.

01:51:29.860 The call concerned planning for a short fuse interagency meeting at the White House.

01:51:35.020 It was explained that the new committee was being formed to finalize and establish the timeline and storyline connecting Russia with the election of Donald Trump.

01:51:45.140 During the phone call, it was explained to the source that one of the committee's taskings was a plan to delay and or reschedule the inauguration.

01:51:56.300 At one point, there was significant discussion of the possibility of simply not handing over the presidency to Donald Trump.

01:52:07.300 This is wild. 0.95

01:52:08.980 Crazy.

01:52:10.060 So there were there's not been a peaceful transfer of power. 0.65

01:52:13.820 No, they did not transfer the power.

01:52:17.160 They did everything they could to attempt a coup on Donald Trump.

01:52:21.340 And I think they're trying to do it a second time.

01:52:24.260 Now, there's also another story.

01:52:26.220 We've been telling you about the the election integrity project.

01:52:32.100 So to make sure that there's a transition.

01:52:35.120 I think it's transition into integrity project.

01:52:38.240 And it's to make sure that, you know, this all happens.

01:52:41.240 The guy who is running that is in the news today because it looks like Durham's investigation is taking to his doorstep.

01:52:52.900 Do you remember the the story about Donald Trump had a computer that was hooked to a bank and it was constantly pinging back and forth?

01:53:02.960 Yeah, I do.

01:53:03.440 OK, apparently some of the stuff in the Clinton documents that were released by WikiLeaks now have become available and now are playing a role in the Russia collusion investigation on Hillary Clinton.

01:53:17.420 That guy was working for Hillary Clinton at the time.

01:53:21.140 That's one's running the transition integrity project.

01:53:23.740 Now, they believe that he may have been the source of of hiring people to.

01:53:34.840 Pink, get a computer, ping the bank and then tie it all to Donald Trump. 0.98

01:53:40.700 That that, too, was a setup inside the Clinton campaign.

01:53:45.980 And the guy who did it, they're now investigating, they think might be the guy who's running the transition integrity project.

01:53:54.380 Incredible.

01:53:55.400 It's just nuts.

01:53:56.500 This is absolutely nuts.

01:53:57.880 Democrats have this thing where they say they're for the peaceful transition of power, but never seem to actually execute that.

01:54:05.980 Whenever they lose, they complain about it every time they say there's all sorts of conspiracies.

01:54:09.520 They're doing things like this that are above and beyond anything we've seen publicly.

01:54:13.060 And then Donald Trump has the reverse where he says he doesn't he never actually says that he's a transition of power.

01:54:20.980 He never publicly like comes out and cheers it on like everybody else does.

01:54:25.360 But there's no evidence that he's actually subverting it right now.

01:54:29.880 Like, I'd much rather have a guy who comes out and says, look, I want to I want to wait for the election results to come in.

01:54:34.720 And then when they come in, he's fine, as opposed to someone who is doing what the Democrats are doing, which is they all say, of course, we're going to respect this election until the election happens and they lose it.

01:54:45.320 And then they don't respect it at all.

01:54:46.860 But are they going to lose it?

01:54:47.840 You've been looking at the polls.

01:54:49.040 The polls are not good for Donald Trump.

01:54:52.560 I mean, we're running out of time here.

01:54:53.720 Right.

01:54:53.900 You know, there's three weeks until this election, three, three weeks to the election from today.

01:54:58.620 Right.

01:54:59.100 Isn't three weeks from today?

01:55:00.340 It is three weeks from three weeks from today is this election.

01:55:03.680 And, you know, look, the polls don't look great.

01:55:06.160 I mean, you know, I will say you looked a lot of people talk to me as we went through the summer.

01:55:10.540 And I made this argument many times that it's a weird year.

01:55:14.460 Right.

01:55:14.680 It's covid.

01:55:15.740 No one's thinking about the election.

01:55:17.680 You know, then you have the convention and we get into the debates and then people will start to focus and kind of make their.

01:55:23.900 And what's happened is the the highest profile moment for Donald Trump to change an election that had been really consistent, which was a moderate lead for Joe Biden, was the first debate.

01:55:37.020 And the first debate, you know, whether you think he did well or I think he did well, you know, the voters so far in the polls are saying he didn't do that well.

01:55:46.280 And since that, he's he's really lost three or four points since then.

01:55:50.120 And most of these like national polls are showing him down by 10 or 12 points.

01:55:54.020 Now, do I think he's going to lose by 10 or 12 points?

01:55:56.080 No, I do not.

01:55:57.160 But he's got a lot of a lot of room to make up in a very short period of time, including, you know, eight digits have already voted.

01:56:07.200 And we're talking over 10 million people have already voted.

01:56:09.020 So help me out with this, because there's something and this has never happened before.

01:56:12.740 But it's a weird year.

01:56:14.480 It could happen this time.

01:56:15.540 For instance, there's three things.

01:56:17.220 And this is really pointed out by Byron York.

01:56:19.900 And he said, sure, you look at the polls.

01:56:23.140 But let me show you some other things from Gallup last week or early this week.

01:56:28.680 It came out that Gallup did a poll.

01:56:30.720 Are you better off now than you were four years ago?

01:56:33.660 In 1984, that number was 44 percent.

01:56:37.600 1992, it was 39 percent.

01:56:40.100 And that was a change in 2004.

01:56:42.640 They stayed 47 percent.

01:56:45.040 2012, it was 45 percent.

01:56:47.500 And they changed today.

01:56:49.500 It's 56 percent.

01:56:51.460 Are you better off today than you were four years ago?

01:56:54.840 That plays a role in in this.

01:56:58.500 Also, Trump's job approval rating is is not horribly underwater like you would expect.

01:57:09.640 Then there's the news about, you know, some critically important states.

01:57:14.560 Republicans are signing up in record numbers.

01:57:19.340 New voters and the voter registration rolls are going down with Democrats in record numbers.

01:57:25.480 Yeah, I think both sides can find things to find positive parts to argue here.

01:57:30.060 I would I would just say that this is it.

01:57:32.020 If you if you are passionate about this and you feel like, am I going to volunteer that extra day?

01:57:37.200 The answer is you should, because this if you if you're under the impression and I see it a lot in conservative media that Donald Trump's going to he's going to have this gigantic victory and he's going to win 45 states.

01:57:47.620 And and and and the liberals are going to be crying that next day if if if if people don't get out and do everything they can, that is not going to occur.

01:57:57.020 I have never I don't think I've ever made a political donation.

01:58:01.920 I don't want to make political donations.

01:58:04.520 My wife has from time to time.

01:58:06.080 My wife and I both made a major contribution to the reelection campaign, putting our money where our mouth is.

01:58:15.960 But I had directed towards not only right now, but also for the lawsuits.

01:58:22.860 The GOP is going to be underwater and way behind and not have money to fight these lawsuits.

01:58:28.860 And they need the the money right now to be able to do that.

01:58:32.920 And this is this is all hands on deck.

01:58:35.960 If you have thought, well, I don't know, my vote doesn't count.

01:58:39.280 Yes, it does.

01:58:40.340 Because they're going to challenge it with the popular vote.

01:58:42.840 I don't care if you're in California or New York.

01:58:45.280 You've got to go out and vote.

01:58:47.540 You have to go out and vote.

01:58:49.840 All right.

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02:00:47.900 I'd like to say welcome back to Stu, but he's depressing the snot out of me.

02:00:52.080 I only did that in commercial breaks.

02:00:53.540 Yeah, I know.

02:00:54.120 I mean, the reason why it's depressing is because I know it's true.

02:00:58.640 The president is in real trouble this election.

02:01:01.300 Yeah, look, he needs his people to get out there and do everything that they can to win this election if he's going to hold on to office.

02:01:09.020 I think there's a temptation to say, okay, well, 2016, you know, the polls said Hillary was going to win, and Hillary didn't win.

02:01:18.880 Well, you know, first of all, polling error famously bounces back and forth from one side to another.

02:01:24.300 You know, it favored Republicans, as we all remember, in 2016.

02:01:28.980 It favored Democrats in 2012.

02:01:31.240 I mean, Romney's polls going into the night of election, of the election, were better than Trump's were in 2016.

02:01:37.520 But the polling error bounced to Obama's side in 2012.

02:01:41.380 In Trump, in the Trump election, it bounced towards him, but only by a few points.

02:01:46.000 And remember, this is a very close election.

02:01:48.180 So think about, you know, I'm not trying to make excuses for the president here, but think about what the guy is trying to achieve here.

02:01:56.340 He came in in a very close election.

02:01:58.480 He's had an unlimited battering by the media that no president, going back even to Reagan, who I thought would never get worse than Reagan or Bush.

02:02:06.440 He's taken that.

02:02:08.160 Then, as he's coming towards election, which in what would have probably been a tight election anyway, we get hit with a pandemic that destroys the economy, which is his strong suit.

02:02:17.980 All I know is I believe in God.

02:02:19.240 Exactly.

02:02:20.060 I believe in God.

02:02:21.280 I just, I know.

02:02:22.400 And that's it.

02:02:23.240 It's, I mean, he is up against the wall.

02:02:25.100 But here's the good news.

02:02:26.220 Next week, the CERN super collider.

02:02:28.720 Yes.

02:02:29.180 Next week, they're going to do an experiment and try to open a black hole.

02:02:33.080 A lot of people think that's bad because it could open up and swallow the world.

02:02:38.100 Yeah.

02:02:38.200 I personally am rooting for the black hole.

02:02:40.800 Okay.

02:02:41.280 Okay.

02:02:42.240 And that happens next week.

02:02:45.020 Can they wait like four weeks to do this?

02:02:46.880 You just to make sure?

02:02:48.060 Yeah.

02:02:48.340 Yeah.

02:02:48.620 You know what they're actually doing?

02:02:50.380 They believe this will be, if successful, it will be first contact with a parallel universe.

02:02:59.340 I mean, is this realistic?

02:03:01.820 I don't know.

02:03:03.080 It's from the science magazine.

02:03:04.780 It's from CERN.

02:03:06.380 It's from CERN.

02:03:07.880 I mean, that's what they're really trying to do.

02:03:09.720 Isn't that crazy?

02:03:10.580 Yes.

02:03:10.960 It's crazy.

02:03:11.700 I mean, and we're not, nobody's talking about it.

02:03:13.660 No.

02:03:14.000 Hey, by the way, next Tuesday, they're opening up a black hole, you know, there in Europe.

02:03:19.800 Yeah, but have you heard what the media has been saying?

02:03:22.940 Right.

02:03:23.280 I mean, we found out that we have spaceships from aliens, and now they're opening a black hole.

02:03:29.020 Nobody cares.

02:03:29.540 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

The Glenn Beck Program - October 13, 2020

A Politicized Hearing ｜ Guests： Sen. Ben Sasse & Brad Meltzer ｜ 10⧸13⧸20

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