The Glenn Beck Program - A Tough Two Weeks Ahead ｜ Guest： Stephen Moore

00:00:00.000 I have a feeling today in my heart, in my gut, and I'm not sure I can put it into words, but I'm going to try.

00:00:13.800 America today is full of confusion, full of fear, deep sadness, some anger out there, but none of this is who we are.

00:00:26.060 None of this matters. So let me try to take you to what matters and what you really need to embrace today.

00:00:39.780 We'll do that in one minute.

00:00:41.460 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

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00:02:08.700 So I feel like, you know when you're driving and you hit a patch of ice, and your first instinct is to slam on the brakes, and all of your instincts are wrong, because you're trying, you feel out of control, and you want to have control.

00:02:31.240 So you slam on the brakes, and when there's ice on the road, it's the worst thing you can do.

00:02:36.020 You steer in the opposite direction.

00:02:38.860 All of your instincts are upside down.

00:02:42.120 And people don't like that feeling.

00:02:44.600 And that's the way America is right now.

00:02:48.060 But can I take you out of the driver's seat for a second and look at the bigger picture?

00:02:55.040 Let's take one place in America.

00:02:58.620 Let's look at New York City.

00:03:00.800 I know New York City.

00:03:02.420 We all kind of do.

00:03:03.540 And when I was growing up in Mount Vernon, Washington, a small town just north of Seattle, it's where I wanted to live.

00:03:10.800 I knew nothing about it except what I had seen on television.

00:03:14.780 And it would take me almost 40 years to get there.

00:03:17.500 And it's the best city and the worst city.

00:03:19.600 It is.

00:03:20.100 Even though I didn't grow up there, I grew to know it.

00:03:25.360 And I think as much as anyone can know New York City, because it's the kind of place where every block has seen lifetimes of stories.

00:03:36.660 Every block contains a million movies that were never made.

00:03:40.580 Some of them never even noticed, but all of them worth telling.

00:03:45.800 And nowhere in America is like New York.

00:03:49.840 It's bigger than all of the rest.

00:03:51.420 And it has been attacked over and over and over and not just by terrorists or or covid.

00:03:57.860 But it heals every time.

00:04:01.780 It survives.

00:04:02.880 It thrives.

00:04:03.820 In fact, every time you start to count it out, it grows bigger and reaches higher heights.

00:04:11.100 Nowhere on Earth is like New York City.

00:04:13.400 It's it's America in five boroughs, Queens, Brooklyn, Staten Island, the Bronx, Manhattan.

00:04:21.000 It's the snow globe of life in America.

00:04:26.040 So much hate and love, intelligence and stupidity.

00:04:32.740 So much history, so much humor, music, food, human complexity, the entire human race, almost at every crosswalk.

00:04:43.400 The artwork, Bob Dylan, the Beatles in the park, Warhol, Studio 54, the Rockettes, the Christmas tree in Rockefeller Center.

00:04:51.280 The streets full of ticker tape as the war heroes return home because somehow or another they survived that war.

00:05:01.100 It's a city where two dollar pizza that you buy on the street is better than any pizza you've ever eaten.

00:05:07.180 Every culture, every smell, both good and bad.

00:05:10.680 Every food, both good and bad.

00:05:12.580 Every nuance.

00:05:15.860 It's all there and it's all within a six block radius.

00:05:20.860 I guess it's as old world as America gets.

00:05:24.320 And then every once in a while, all of a sudden, out of nowhere, it seems something happens.

00:05:33.200 All of a sudden, out of nowhere, a triage unit on the East Meadow of Central Park in the middle of New York.

00:05:39.660 Here it is, the Big Apple, the city that never sleeps, never stops, never depletes, never gets sick.

00:05:48.500 Now it is gasping and sleeping.

00:05:52.380 Not enough masks, not enough hospital beds, food is low as temperatures rise.

00:05:59.380 A lifelong New Yorker's hand trembles as he captures one of the 45 refrigerated trucks parked outside of one of the hospitals and makeshift morgues on his cell phone.

00:06:11.540 Trailers, meat trailers for an unprecedented number of dead.

00:06:15.960 And we hear that and our heart rate rises.

00:06:20.580 It should.

00:06:22.560 It's unparalleled.

00:06:26.060 A white painted naval ship painted with a red cross drifting into the harbor.

00:06:31.240 But the red of the logo could represent the 20% of this or that, the 2%, more or less, thousands, hundreds of thousands.

00:06:40.140 We don't know how many will die.

00:06:41.740 Now, this isn't what I wanted to say.

00:06:50.180 But there's a reason I'm starting here.

00:06:53.160 Starting specifically in Central Park, the patch of Eden in an unrelenting city.

00:06:58.660 It's a place of relief.

00:07:00.720 The rare gasp of nature in the concrete jungle.

00:07:05.440 It's pure.

00:07:06.360 And now, suddenly infected by 68 beds at an impromptu field hospital.

00:07:13.300 Bone-white cots that you would have seen in the medic tents in World War II or that we all saw in MASH.

00:07:19.680 Ten ICU beds, each with their own ventilators.

00:07:22.440 Earlier this week, in a week that seems like it's been a month, Governor Cuomo suggested the city would likely need 140,000 beds and ventilators, now a precious commodity like ground beef and Lysol wipes.

00:07:37.120 It all seems to be something for the movies, the cinema, perhaps just the cinema of the mind, and one right now that America doesn't want to buy a ticket to.

00:07:50.600 I just want to escape.

00:07:53.220 And I think we're all doing it.

00:07:54.680 We gather alone, apart, and we feast on documentaries about the underworld of big cats in America.

00:08:03.460 14 tents along the eastern edge of Central Park near 5th Avenue and 97th Street.

00:08:12.700 Triage hospital, a respiratory care unit.

00:08:17.020 Across the street from Mount Sinai Hospital, a triage unit.

00:08:20.640 Organized by Samaritan Purse from Boone, North Carolina.

00:08:24.120 It's Franklin Graham's group.

00:08:27.040 Some New Yorkers are protesting because it's Franklin Graham's group.

00:08:30.900 Nothing new, especially in this park.

00:08:32.560 This park had seen it all.

00:08:36.180 You can't imagine how big this thing is.

00:08:38.340 Central Park stretches from 59th Street to 110th Street.

00:08:42.200 And it was conceived as an emblem of democracy.

00:08:46.180 Europe has its royal parks.

00:08:47.840 They're huge playgrounds of land once owned by kings and queens used as hunting grounds.

00:08:53.240 But America, we have the greens of democracy.

00:08:56.240 And it's important, and they knew about it 150, 200 years ago.

00:09:03.020 Nature has a refining power.

00:09:05.780 And Central Park is a place to lose yourself, lose your worries, and quite honestly, lose time.

00:09:11.360 Because the space is timeless.

00:09:15.980 The chalk of midnight air caught in some infinite gray cloud wall.

00:09:22.680 Flowers on tables, children's voices in the air, lovers on benches.

00:09:26.600 And if you're still enough, you can still hear the pulse and the voices of the past when the sky shook with paper pamphlets that read,

00:09:35.220 Preventatives of Cholera!

00:09:38.700 Get the preventatives of Cholera!

00:09:41.920 Be temperate in eating and drinking.

00:09:44.820 Take no medicine without advice!

00:09:47.280 Those pamphlets were everywhere in the same park.

00:09:51.920 If you listen closely, you can hear the riots of the 1840s.

00:09:56.240 It was the riot of 1849 that led to the creation of Central Park.

00:10:00.240 New York is full of riots, over and over again, and political drama, and murder, and drugs, and rampant prostitution, and corruption.

00:10:08.720 Every crime imaginable played out like a soap opera on the national stage.

00:10:12.860 It's New York City.

00:10:14.660 A place you just have to see to believe.

00:10:17.280 If you're quiet enough in the park, you can see the New Yorkers.

00:10:22.880 The New Yorkers of the past that would drag their mattresses out into the park,

00:10:27.820 where their entire neighborhood would camp out in the heat of the summer when there was no such thing as air conditioning.

00:10:34.980 Right there, where a few years later, Simon and Garfunkel would play.

00:10:40.940 John Lennon was murdered right over there.

00:10:43.440 This is where the Central Park Five happened.

00:10:48.040 1989, a jogger was raped and murdered.

00:10:51.200 As is the way in America, the murder trial coincided with racial and class tensions that finally began to boil over.

00:10:57.540 This is the place where people found respite after September 11th, 2001.

00:11:04.920 And you can still hear the sounds.

00:11:06.760 You can still sense the feelings, the confusion, and the anger, and the betrayal that many felt that day.

00:11:12.680 This isn't what I wanted to say.

00:11:20.840 As of yesterday, three billion people globally have been told to stay home.

00:11:29.980 It's a game of numbers, and it's a scary one.

00:11:33.800 And if you see the white tents of the triage unit in the east meadow of Central Park, it's fair to say the numbers are dwindling.

00:11:40.040 The pace of the heat is accelerating, the gasp of uncertainty, the anxiety of tomorrow, the anxiety about the next trip outside.

00:11:48.600 But this is Central Park.

00:11:52.840 This is New York.

00:11:53.620 This is America, damn it.

00:11:58.320 That's what I want to say to you today.

00:12:00.200 This is what I mean, most of all, that I believe in the captivating power of Americans, in the ever-thriving cadence of the American heart, of the vast and multiform country that includes all of us, every single one of us.

00:12:22.440 I hear the national anthem, and I cry, and I mean it.

00:12:25.920 I hear the pledge, and I feel a deep ache inside at times.

00:12:32.520 I feel a deep love for America, every single corner of it.

00:12:37.940 It's broad, it's rich, it thrives.

00:12:42.400 It means something truly, deeply, powerful.

00:12:50.200 America.

00:12:53.720 That's what I mean.

00:12:55.920 I read a poem the other day.

00:12:59.260 Last lines clung to me.

00:13:02.480 See how they wake without a question, even though the whole world is burning?

00:13:09.400 See how they wake without a question.

00:13:14.880 We can persevere better than we ever can even imagine.

00:13:18.680 That's a human triumph.

00:13:22.520 But it's also ruggedly American.

00:13:25.300 Plenty of Americans have died face down in the mud somewhere far from their home, forgotten.

00:13:32.160 We know sadness.

00:13:34.100 We've fallen.

00:13:35.280 We have collapsed.

00:13:37.120 And yet, America is different.

00:13:40.220 It's not the old world.

00:13:41.640 It's the new world.

00:13:42.760 We have immense youth, a unique power, driven by an ability to fight and overcome.

00:13:52.460 We have a heart.

00:13:54.000 We have a passion.

00:13:55.080 We have a purpose.

00:13:56.460 And yet, that is what I mean.

00:14:06.720 Ever.

00:14:09.080 Always.

00:14:09.640 I see the harmony of America played out every single day.

00:14:21.940 Every moment.

00:14:24.520 The harmony.

00:14:27.920 See the collection of voices.

00:14:32.100 See the dissonant chords from time to time.

00:14:34.960 But it's a symphony.

00:14:43.280 We know what's happening in New York is coming.

00:14:49.880 It's coming for all of our towns.

00:14:56.680 But today, we're watching our tougher, older brother, New York City.

00:15:00.120 A city that is full of grit and determination.

00:15:02.700 It's under attack again.

00:15:06.400 And we've seen our older brother gasp like this.

00:15:15.920 But this one feels different.

00:15:26.020 Maybe it's because we've never seen it quite like this.

00:15:29.140 But those who came before us have.

00:15:34.540 And there in Central Park, the trees and the stones and the fields of Central Park have seen this come and go.

00:15:42.060 And they have seen much worse come and go.

00:15:46.320 And if you will, just for a minute, imagine the park and listen closely enough.

00:15:56.540 Because if you do, those trees, those stones, those fields, whisper the truth.

00:16:02.960 That New York, America, you, will not just survive.

00:16:13.640 But like what happens every time that New York is down, we thrive.

00:16:20.760 We as a people, we as a country.

00:16:22.820 New York as a city goes on to reach even higher heights.

00:16:25.940 To once again be the top of the heap.

00:16:30.600 King of the hill.

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00:17:51.120 Welcome to the program.

00:18:08.520 Stu is with me today.

00:18:11.980 And before we went on the air, he's been looking at all of the numbers.

00:18:17.500 And all of the projections.

00:18:18.900 And I've always looked to Stu to balance me.

00:18:22.640 Because I'm somebody who goes, you know, I shoot from my hip.

00:18:27.240 I go with my gut.

00:18:28.580 And when I see things over the horizon, you know, usually it's not always the most pleasant.

00:18:36.320 And Stu is always the guy who kind of balances me.

00:18:38.960 And he's been very steady and has provided me with a great deal of hope until today.

00:18:49.160 And Stu, I want you to say the opposite things that you have found today.

00:18:57.700 Please.

00:18:58.160 Yeah.

00:18:58.460 Please.

00:18:58.840 Just everything's fine.

00:19:00.300 These numbers are all askewed.

00:19:02.800 Well, what I found is that everything is awesome.

00:19:06.900 Everything is cool when you're part of the team.

00:19:09.940 Okay.

00:19:10.800 All right.

00:19:11.460 Yeah.

00:19:11.680 We should be fine.

00:19:12.520 Good.

00:19:12.760 Yeah.

00:19:13.020 That worked out.

00:19:13.960 That worked out.

00:19:15.260 Yeah.

00:19:15.580 I mean, I don't know that I've been.

00:19:19.160 I don't think I've been.

00:19:20.300 I mean, compared to you, everybody's a feel good, you know, happy song under a rainbow.

00:19:25.600 Right.

00:19:25.880 Okay.

00:19:26.180 I don't know that.

00:19:26.900 Right.

00:19:27.480 But I mean, I think compared to a lot of people, I don't consider myself a skeptic on this

00:19:33.060 by any means.

00:19:33.940 You know, looking at this, I think it's going to be.

00:19:36.340 Hey, look, this is going to be ugly.

00:19:38.280 You know, a couple of things.

00:19:39.380 Take it away from the data for a second.

00:19:41.340 A couple of things.

00:19:42.620 Watch Donald Trump.

00:19:44.360 Donald, you think Donald Trump wants to shut the economy down for six weeks in the middle

00:19:47.760 of an election year?

00:19:48.560 Like, I guarantee that is not how he saw his presidency playing out.

00:19:53.220 Remember, he's the guy who has been very optimistic.

00:19:58.180 This too shall pass.

00:19:59.160 Don't worry about it.

00:19:59.840 But here's what he said yesterday.

00:20:01.100 I want every American to be prepared for very hard days that lie ahead.

00:20:06.540 We're going through a very tough two weeks.

00:20:10.580 There is real light at the end of the tunnel.

00:20:13.300 But this is going to be a very painful, a very, very painful couple of weeks.

00:20:20.100 Yeah.

00:20:20.620 I mean, this is not no, no president goes into their presidency, you know, thinking

00:20:25.460 they're going to deal with something like this.

00:20:27.460 But, you know, this is the last thing in the world he wants to be doing, particularly

00:20:30.560 in election year.

00:20:31.280 Right.

00:20:31.500 Like, even if you have the worst possible opinion of Donald Trump, you know, and of

00:20:35.120 course the left does, they still can't give him credit for how seriously he's taking this.

00:20:39.260 And I think it is really serious.

00:20:41.060 And then the other two things I'll give you just outside of the data, why on earth are

00:20:45.720 Gavin Newsom and Andrew Cuomo saying nice things about Donald Trump in the middle of

00:20:50.880 this?

00:20:51.960 That's got to terrify you because they know they don't want to, you know, he's got the

00:20:57.460 control, you know, and a lot of control of the resources.

00:21:00.260 And they want those resources and they realize how badly they need them to the point, to

00:21:04.520 the extent they will go on television and say he's doing a good job.

00:21:08.040 That should scare you.

00:21:09.040 So Stu is a stats guy, and I would like you to go over the stats and give me what you think

00:21:15.120 are the best numbers that we have.

00:21:20.420 We'll do that next.

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00:22:50.420 Hey, tonight at 9, our response to the coronavirus has crippled our economy,

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00:23:01.160 off of America's demise, if you will.

00:23:04.620 Stakes are way too high.

00:23:06.020 We need to get back into the fight as soon as we can and turn the American engine on.

00:23:13.640 When that is possible, I don't know, but you need to know what's coming beyond the coronavirus.

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00:25:10.860 All right, Stu, let's look at, let's start with what do the numbers show us where people

00:25:18.680 think, how many people are going to be dead?

00:25:23.880 What people think this is actually going to look like?

00:25:26.860 And then let's compare them to what the experts are predicting.

00:25:32.460 Yeah, I'd love to.

00:25:33.100 I'm looking for the average person.

00:25:34.740 Yeah, I'd love to get your thoughts on this, Pat, too, because it's, Pat Gray joins us from

00:25:38.180 Pat Gray Unleashed.

00:25:38.760 You know, it's one of these things where this has moved really fast, right?

00:25:42.880 Like you look at, this is March 11th.

00:25:46.760 Okay.

00:25:47.080 That's in March, three weeks ago.

00:25:49.420 So they asked, if you had to guess, how many people do you think will die in the United

00:25:53.880 States because of coronavirus over the next year?

00:25:56.700 Okay.

00:25:56.900 Um, 18% of people said less than 100 people.

00:26:01.700 This is less than a hundred, less than a hundred.

00:26:04.720 Oh, wow.

00:26:05.180 Okay.

00:26:05.360 This is as of May, uh, March 11th.

00:26:07.560 Um, more than a three weeks ago.

00:26:09.780 Yeah.

00:26:10.060 Three weeks ago.

00:26:10.820 More than a hundred, but less than a thousand.

00:26:13.060 Okay.

00:26:13.700 Was 37%.

00:26:14.900 So half of the people in the United States believed less than a thousand deaths.

00:26:19.720 I'll remind you we're at 4,000 now.

00:26:21.760 Okay.

00:26:22.200 So they've already, we've obviously exceeded that by quite a bit in the three weeks.

00:26:25.620 Um, more, uh, more than a thousand, but less than 10,000.

00:26:29.320 Okay.

00:26:29.960 That was another 32%.

00:26:31.980 So you're at 87% of people who believed it was going to be less than 10,000.

00:26:38.600 There's almost no chance it's going to be less than 10,000.

00:26:41.740 We should hit 10,000 next week with this, the way it's going.

00:26:45.120 Oh, I bet we hit it earlier than that.

00:26:46.600 Don't you think?

00:26:47.360 Uh, maybe I would think we're doubling.

00:26:49.480 Yeah.

00:26:49.920 We did almost a thousand deaths yesterday.

00:26:52.480 Almost a thousand deaths yesterday.

00:26:54.020 Yesterday was the second highest total of any country during the entire coronavirus, uh,

00:27:00.900 scare with the except, I mean, you can't count China, which is obviously lying about their

00:27:04.660 numbers.

00:27:05.060 I would expect they probably had bigger days than this, but there was one day in Italy

00:27:08.540 that was higher than our yesterday.

00:27:10.560 So, I mean, like it is, you know, it is, we're not even at the peak yet.

00:27:14.160 We're not even at the peak.

00:27:15.280 No, as Trump talked about yesterday, that they believe the peak is going to be in a couple

00:27:18.960 of weeks, um, where it could be multiple thousands per day.

00:27:22.000 Um, so, uh, and only 12% of the people, only 12% believed it would be over 10,000 dead in

00:27:27.580 the next year.

00:27:28.380 They redid the exact same poll, uh, in March 26th.

00:27:32.120 And it's revealing that the poll on March 11th, the highest answer you could give was

00:27:36.800 over 10,000.

00:27:38.000 So they didn't even have a category above that.

00:27:40.300 They had to add that when they asked the poll again.

00:27:42.320 Um, so they asked again, which this is just at some point humorous, um, less than a hundred,

00:27:48.360 5% still thought it would be less than a hundred.

00:27:50.060 Now at this point there, we were way beyond already another 19% thought it would be less

00:27:56.280 than a thousand.

00:27:57.020 And again, we were past a thousand as well on May, uh, March 26th, uh, 46% still believed

00:28:03.240 it would stay below 10,000.

00:28:05.200 Uh, again, I don't think that's going to happen.

00:28:07.400 Um, and 30, 31% said it would be more than 10,000 dead in the next year.

00:28:11.680 So they broke out that category and said, okay, if you believe it's more, if you're in

00:28:15.340 that 31%, you believe it's more than 10,000, what do you think it will be?

00:28:19.220 Will it be more than, or less than a hundred thousand?

00:28:22.100 A third of people believe that.

00:28:23.920 So about 10% of the total populace, about 15% of the total populace believed, uh, between

00:28:29.660 a hundred thousand and a million.

00:28:31.220 And the rest was more than a million.

00:28:33.680 So again, I, you know, I don't think it's going to get that high, but still.

00:28:37.400 That is, uh, you realize how fast this comes.

00:28:40.040 We were at a point where half the country was like, oh, less than a thousand deaths three

00:28:43.900 weeks ago.

00:28:44.700 And now we're at 4,000.

00:28:46.600 And I, and a lot of times I think this moves just at the pace where it doesn't seem shocking

00:28:52.760 to you on a day-to-day basis.

00:28:54.120 But when you look at it over a multiple week basis, you're like, holy crap, this is moving

00:28:58.700 quickly.

00:28:59.740 Um, so that is, it is scary.

00:29:01.460 So what are the real, because first of all, I think we're going to hit between a hundred thousand

00:29:06.080 and a million.

00:29:06.760 I think a million is a long shot, but I think we're, we hit between a hundred thousand and

00:29:10.660 a million.

00:29:11.640 Yeah.

00:29:12.000 A million would be, no model predicts a million unless we do nothing.

00:29:15.780 Yeah.

00:29:16.100 Like they all, you know, there are a lot of models that will say that if we basically

00:29:20.840 just kind of go free for all and, and, and enough and no good news comes, there's no treatment

00:29:25.560 that pops up or anything like that.

00:29:27.440 Uh, Pat, what's your number?

00:29:32.540 I, I mean, I.

00:29:35.120 Less than a hundred?

00:29:36.340 A hundred thousand?

00:29:37.560 A hundred thousand?

00:29:37.640 Or a hundred people?

00:29:39.240 No, a hundred thousand.

00:29:40.700 I, I, I think around a hundred thousand.

00:29:43.780 Okay.

00:29:44.420 Damn, that's a, yeah, that's still a lot.

00:29:46.120 Yeah, that's a lot.

00:29:46.820 That's a lot.

00:29:47.180 That's a lot.

00:29:47.600 Now, Fauci says between a hundred and two hundred and forty thousand.

00:29:51.240 Yeah.

00:29:51.780 And that's based on the Imperial College model, which is, uh, the one that also predicted

00:29:56.760 up to 2.2 million if we did nothing.

00:29:59.200 Yeah.

00:29:59.660 Um, so what is the Seattle model?

00:30:01.980 What is the one that's coming out of Washington state?

00:30:03.980 Yeah.

00:30:04.080 University of Washington has one that I think has been more reserved and also updates

00:30:08.000 every day, unlike the Imperial College model, which they did.

00:30:11.000 This one I think is interesting.

00:30:12.840 Um, they predict the total death count to be 93,765.

00:30:18.620 Now it's interesting because they update it every day with new information.

00:30:23.020 Um, the, yesterday they were predicting 83,000.

00:30:26.220 So in one day they've upped it by 10,000, which I would say is not a good sign.

00:30:30.720 No.

00:30:30.940 Now that's their best guess.

00:30:32.380 Uh, the high end and low end is about 40,000 to about 175, I would say, uh, is their estimate.

00:30:43.200 And they're, that's an interesting one because they, they really do go and give, they give

00:30:46.880 state by state estimates as to when they think the peak of each state will hit.

00:30:51.040 Um, we can, I'll tweet this out, uh, at stew does America, if you want to, uh, kind of

00:30:54.680 go through it and, and nerd out on the data as well.

00:30:57.420 Um, but at least kind of gives us a sense.

00:30:58.960 And this is why you see Trump, you know, I mean, dead serious yesterday talking about,

00:31:04.400 Hey, the next couple of weeks are going to be awful.

00:31:06.740 Prepare yourself for it mentally.

00:31:08.040 Um, and of course, obviously physically by not, uh, you know, so when is the peak, our,

00:31:13.900 our governor yesterday, uh, here in Texas came out and said, schools are not going to

00:31:19.040 return, uh, until May.

00:31:21.980 Uh, we're closing everything down until May.

00:31:26.060 Uh, uh, and what is it?

00:31:28.740 May 15th.

00:31:29.620 Do you guys know?

00:31:30.720 I mean, when is, when is it supposed to hit and peak in Texas?

00:31:34.480 Cause it's, it's not really, I mean, it's here.

00:31:39.420 A couple of people in my, in my town, we have a small town of about 900 people.

00:31:43.640 There's two people that I heard of just last weekend.

00:31:46.140 So there's gotta be more now, but two in my town that have it.

00:31:50.160 Um, when is it supposed to peak here?

00:31:52.800 Uh, in, in early May, uh, according to the models, uh, according to this university of

00:31:58.140 Washington model, May 7th would be a Texas peak.

00:32:00.900 It's interesting to note that Washington seems to be on the decline.

00:32:04.220 Yeah.

00:32:04.460 Already they went through a really bad time and, and it looked like they were going

00:32:09.120 to be the state that was out of control, but New York took that from them.

00:32:12.120 And so did New Jersey.

00:32:12.880 But, um, their, their numbers are actually starting to decline now.

00:32:17.260 So that's a good sign.

00:32:20.040 Yeah, it is.

00:32:21.040 How's California?

00:32:22.740 California.

00:32:23.880 You're saying what peak date for California?

00:32:26.080 Yeah.

00:32:26.300 What peak?

00:32:26.760 And I'd like to know Chicago too.

00:32:28.520 I mean, we haven't heard much about Chicago.

00:32:31.500 Yeah.

00:32:31.900 Well, first of all, Chicago, actually not a state.

00:32:33.700 Uh, it's a city, uh, in the United States, uh, April 29th, uh, for California was, it

00:32:41.020 would be, or actually it looks like May, May 2nd, maybe is, uh, the California peak.

00:32:45.560 Again, these are all approximations.

00:32:46.760 They change every day, but give you an idea.

00:32:48.980 Illinois is a little earlier than that.

00:32:51.520 Um, April 20th.

00:32:53.340 Um, so, but you could see like there's massive still bars of error here.

00:32:59.160 And, and as Dr. Fauci talked about yesterday, Trump has echoed this as well.

00:33:03.780 We hope to do a lot better than this, right?

00:33:05.840 This is, but this is with all of the social distancing stuff that we're doing.

00:33:09.300 This does not include if we all kind of give up on it.

00:33:11.660 If we give up on it, all their numbers get uglier, whether you believe it or not.

00:33:15.180 Well, if we give up on it now, I mean, we've already done the damage, man.

00:33:18.240 Let's not, let's not pull out of this thing too early.

00:33:22.020 You know what I mean?

00:33:22.720 Let's, let's, there, I think that there's a chance that we come roaring back, uh, with

00:33:28.480 all the pent up everything.

00:33:30.560 Uh, there's a chance that we just come roaring back.

00:33:33.360 Cause we'll want to go out and do things.

00:33:35.780 We'll want to go out and shop and spend money and go to restaurants.

00:33:39.520 So, uh, you know, as soon as this thing comes back, if there is a clear kind of cut ending

00:33:45.500 to it, uh, it, it will really help the, uh, economy.

00:33:50.100 And there are some positive things that are the, um, there, for instance, there's a new

00:33:55.200 study by the medical journal, the Lancet infectious diseases, which I usually wait for the swimsuit

00:34:01.440 edition, but I got this early.

00:34:03.480 Yeah.

00:34:03.960 Yeah.

00:34:04.200 Really?

00:34:04.640 Okay.

00:34:04.900 The Lancet infectious diseases swimsuit edition is unreal.

00:34:08.900 Unbelievable.

00:34:09.560 You got to see it too hot.

00:34:11.880 When they did the swimsuit edition on leprosy, right?

00:34:15.580 Remember that?

00:34:16.380 Gosh, it was good.

00:34:17.940 Yeah.

00:34:18.220 Leopard prints on fire.

00:34:21.020 Yeah.

00:34:22.000 But they, it was great.

00:34:22.980 They've done a study and they found this, the mortality rates have been overstated is what

00:34:27.540 they're saying.

00:34:27.940 They said that the mortality rate right now looks like it's going to wind up to be about

00:34:33.320 0.66%.

00:34:35.180 Yeah.

00:34:35.480 Which is really promising.

00:34:37.300 Oh, wait, wait.

00:34:38.440 Did you hear CNN talk about this?

00:34:41.020 I don't know.

00:34:41.720 CNN reported on this and CNN, they did all kinds of stuff about how the mortality rate is too

00:34:48.940 high and it's going to come in way under a 1%, blah, blah, blah.

00:34:53.540 See, I was, I, the only one that was screaming going, wait a minute, you guys were just saying

00:35:00.540 that the president, how dare the president say that when he came out and said it will

00:35:05.820 be under 1%.

00:35:07.160 I did a whole show on that, uh, on that stupid because they were all bashing him at the same

00:35:11.900 time as when the world health organization announced it was 3.4% worldwide, but we, any,

00:35:16.740 every expert was aligned saying it was not going to be 3.4% at the most about 1% is where

00:35:23.320 they thought it would wind up.

00:35:24.440 So 0.66 is great.

00:35:25.500 I think there's a good chance it gets even lower than that.

00:35:27.600 Um, at the, when it comes to the end of this, I think there's a chance that even that's high.

00:35:32.520 I got to give you, I got to give you this last story too.

00:35:35.220 I mean, you just want to talk about the press and I mean, watch tonight's show.

00:35:39.280 It's just agonizing.

00:35:40.540 When I try this one on, here's the, here's the New York times.

00:35:45.220 Uh, this is from a Monday, New York times headline, more Americans probably should wear

00:35:51.020 masks for protection.

00:35:56.320 They were just telling us, we told you no, why would they be saying they need them for

00:36:02.240 the hospital?

00:36:02.780 If they do no good, of course you should be wearing a mask.

00:36:06.220 They're trying to make sure that they have enough for the hospitals instead of saying

00:36:11.480 that they just kept saying they're no good.

00:36:13.800 People won't, they won't, it's no, not effective at all.

00:36:17.260 Now they're coming out and telling you, you know what?

00:36:19.640 Maybe you should wear masks.

00:36:21.280 Of course we all should have been wearing masks.

00:36:24.140 That's unbelievable that they, that, that isn't, that's disgraceful though.

00:36:27.400 You look, you can say, I think the American people would say, look, we're not going to

00:36:31.540 hoard masks.

00:36:32.480 You know, like we of course want the health workers to have them first.

00:36:36.220 But I mean, to tell us that they're not effective and then say that they are just a little

00:36:40.580 bit later on is, it's disgraceful.

00:36:42.280 You can't do that.

00:36:43.260 Well, to say they're not effective at the same time you're saying we need them for the

00:36:47.480 hospitals.

00:36:48.820 Hello.

00:36:50.620 Gosh, they just think we're just idiots.

00:36:53.300 Just idiots.

00:36:54.020 Thanks, Pat.

00:36:54.880 Uh, Pat Gray unleashed.

00:36:56.700 You can find him on the podcast and don't forget Stu's podcast every day as well.

00:37:01.340 Stu does America really, really funny and a lot of great information.

00:37:04.880 And he's focusing on this tonight and he will air on Pluto TV right before my special.

00:37:10.300 He's at 8 PM central, uh, no Eastern.

00:37:13.140 I'm at 9 PM Eastern tonight.

00:37:17.980 Okay.

00:37:19.080 Well, let me see.

00:37:20.780 Why don't we, why don't we spend a few minutes just talking about getting your house ready?

00:37:25.260 You know, there's something to be said about preparing.

00:37:29.140 Cause I think there is, I mean, trying to sell your house right now in credit.

00:37:33.900 I mean, hello, who's coming over to look at your house.

00:37:37.420 Um, so selling it now is going to be tough and we could sit here and speculate about all

00:37:42.900 the doomsday things that are happening.

00:37:44.400 Um, but I really do believe that when we are released from this, there is going to be a move

00:37:52.820 to feel good.

00:37:55.160 Um, we could hit a roaring twenties kind of, uh, scenario.

00:37:58.920 That's what happened after the flu of 1918.

00:38:01.960 Um, and hopefully that's what we hit.

00:38:05.360 So prepare for those times, prepare for the good times, get your house in order and find

00:38:10.800 the right real estate agent that can help you do this right now.

00:38:14.660 You can still do social distancing.

00:38:16.660 They don't have to necessarily come into the house.

00:38:18.540 They can just look at the curb appeal at this point, find the right person and, and, and

00:38:22.920 really do your homework.

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00:38:59.040 This is the Glenn Beck program.

00:39:04.800 You know, Donald Trump yesterday said we needed another phase of stimulus.

00:39:16.700 He was looking and asking for another $2 trillion in stimulus.

00:39:22.780 The same day, the Fed comes out and says that by June 1st, we're going to have 32 and a half

00:39:28.780 percent unemployment.

00:39:30.640 The height of the depression was 25 percent unemployment.

00:39:34.380 And that's by June 1st.

00:39:36.200 We talked to Stephen Moore about what's really coming in the economy.

00:39:40.720 What does this look like on the other side when we come back?

00:39:51.540 You're listening to Glenn Beck.

00:39:59.720 Stephen Moore in an op-ed said,

00:40:01.860 When all the losses are tallied, don't call this a recession.

00:40:06.440 Recessions are ordinary, even predictable.

00:40:09.440 Contractions in activity that mark the end of normal business cycles.

00:40:13.300 But this is not that.

00:40:17.220 He's so.

00:40:18.700 So what is this?

00:40:19.840 We talked to Stephen Moore about the economy.

00:40:22.420 What's coming?

00:40:23.040 The Fed is saying that by June 1st, 32 percent unemployment rate by June 1st.

00:40:31.640 So, you know, it took three years in the Great Depression to get to 25 percent.

00:40:36.340 America's never seen this before.

00:40:39.120 What happens when you just turn all of the engines off of a 747?

00:40:44.120 How do you make sure it doesn't crash and kill everybody on board?

00:40:48.280 Stephen Moore in one minute.

00:40:50.480 This is the Glenn Beck program.

00:40:53.040 Is he on yet?

00:40:57.080 So yesterday I started telling you about the short-term T-bill auction the government's putting on right now.

00:41:04.900 And it's really alarming.

00:41:07.520 They are selling treasury bills left and right.

00:41:10.480 The value of the dollar is starting to shoot down.

00:41:13.620 And this is how it always works.

00:41:15.680 The Fed is now becoming the central bank of the world.

00:41:21.520 They also announced yesterday that they're just buying our treasuries back from other countries.

00:41:27.540 If other countries need the money and they're holding our treasuries, our debt, the Fed is just buying them back.

00:41:33.920 Printing money and giving it to them so they can pump money into their own.

00:41:37.500 So we're now our Fed is now floating the entire world.

00:41:42.640 Do you think they're going to buy those treasuries back?

00:41:45.360 I mean, the Fed is making them pinky promise.

00:41:48.100 Who wants our debt?

00:41:49.560 May I suggest now, right now, stop what you're doing.

00:42:00.180 Call Goldline right now.

00:42:03.220 I don't know.

00:42:06.280 I mean, cryptocurrency should be going through the roof.

00:42:09.660 It's not.

00:42:10.440 This is a massive failure for cryptocurrency.

00:42:13.440 It should be going through the roof.

00:42:14.720 Where are you putting your money?

00:42:16.120 Where are you putting your money?

00:42:18.180 What do you know is going to be there?

00:42:20.920 Well, I know gold.

00:42:22.100 In fact, I can tell you I know this because there's such a run on gold.

00:42:27.040 You can't get physical gold right now.

00:42:29.420 There are many places they'll say, OK, delivery in X number of weeks because they don't have it yet.

00:42:35.440 There's not enough gold for the money that's going into gold right now.

00:42:39.880 Goldline is one of those places that still has it while it lasts.

00:42:45.540 You don't ever want to panic buy.

00:42:47.500 And I'm not asking you to panic buy.

00:42:49.260 I'm asking you to use reason, fix it firmly in her seat and question with boldness and look at the unthinkable.

00:42:56.380 And call them right now.

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00:43:03.420 1-866-GOLDLINE or goldline.com.

00:43:07.780 All right, Stephen Moore, the most unpredictable guest we have ever tried to book on this program,

00:43:24.520 has just been called into some sort of an emergency meeting and has to reschedule for next hour.

00:43:32.000 So he'll be with us next hour.

00:43:33.640 Stephen Moore is our Matt Damon on the Jimmy Kimmel show where he used to say at the end of every show,

00:43:38.200 ah, sorry, we ran out of time for Matt Damon.

00:43:39.860 We'll get him tomorrow.

00:43:42.000 Every time Stephen Moore, we book him, he has something important that comes up and then we have to push him back and we never actually get to him.

00:43:49.220 So we're not actually booking Stephen Moore.

00:43:51.280 He's not actually at the top of the next hour.

00:43:53.240 Just set your expectations there.

00:43:55.960 And if he pops on, it'll be fantastic.

00:43:57.620 I really want to talk to him today, too, because one thing I find really fascinating about the economy right now is tomorrow we get the weekly unemployment, new unemployment claims.

00:44:11.180 This is the report that came out last week.

00:44:14.380 Last week we had 3.2.

00:44:16.220 Yeah, 3.2 million, which was above, even higher than people expected.

00:44:19.460 This one's going to be big as well.

00:44:20.740 We know that on Friday is the unemployment report, the real one where we see the unemployment rate for the first time.

00:44:29.500 Now, that'll be reflected.

00:44:30.720 You know, we won't have this entire shutdown thing reflected about it.

00:44:34.640 We'll only have about half of that reflected.

00:44:37.400 About half a month of the damage will be in that report.

00:44:40.460 But that will be very, very interesting.

00:44:43.100 And all eyes will be there on Friday.

00:44:45.780 And what I found was what I thought was interesting was what Trump did yesterday, where he tweeted about a $2 trillion infrastructure plan.

00:44:57.640 Now, of course, I would point out I am not a huge fan of a $2 trillion infrastructure plan.

00:45:03.500 I wasn't a fan of the $1 trillion infrastructure plan that he ran on.

00:45:06.400 I mean, I don't think I wasn't a fan of the 775 infrastructure plan that that Joe Biden oversaw under Barack Obama.

00:45:15.180 Yeah, so it was $775 billion, the stimulus plan in late or early 2009.

00:45:21.160 We obviously oppose that.

00:45:22.200 I wasn't a fan of the stimulus plan that George W. Bush passed towards the end of his presidency, either or the bailout.

00:45:30.480 All of that is something that, you know, we are pretty consistent on here.

00:45:36.200 And I don't like the spending levels of our government by any means.

00:45:39.100 But stepping back from that for just a second.

00:45:41.200 I mean, we just spent $2.2 trillion.

00:45:43.060 Where does this end?

00:45:43.740 And stepping back from that for one second, though, Donald Trump is going to have a lot more information than any of us do, right?

00:45:49.940 He knows the situation better than any of us do.

00:45:52.420 He has an idea as to how this is going to look.

00:45:56.220 The fact that two days before these reports come out, he starts tweeting about another $2 trillion he wants to spend on jobs programs is terrifying.

00:46:07.980 Terrifying. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but I mean, Trump knows this stuff.

00:46:11.860 He knows he knows it almost feels like Trump is getting everybody prepared for what they're going to.

00:46:18.300 They feel they are going to need to do once this unemployment picture actually is visible to everybody.

00:46:24.220 Well, if the Fed is right, 32% unemployment, a jobs program is going to be needed.

00:46:30.680 I mean, it's it's terrifying.

00:46:34.000 But here's here's what I really want to focus on today.

00:46:37.360 And it's in my new book, Arguing with Socialists.

00:46:40.960 And we actually I mean, we've done a lot of work on on modern monetary theory because it sounds like an absolute joke.

00:46:50.260 Until you understand its socialist underpinnings, this is the way that the socialists believe they can just completely take over an economy.

00:47:03.100 And I want to quote from the book, according to modern monetary theory, if you've not heard about this, this you need to know about this right now.

00:47:11.880 According to modern modern monetary theory, MMT proponents, policymakers have not properly taken advantage of government's ability to print its own money.

00:47:23.580 They think lawmakers are spending far much, far too much time worrying about fiscal responsibility and balanced budgets in stay.

00:47:31.740 Instead, they say the government should print the money it needs to accomplish important public policy goals, regardless of how much debt is being incurred.

00:47:41.880 Now, that sounds insane, right?

00:47:46.180 Because if we could just print money and not worry about anything, well, then what's the problem?

00:47:54.180 What I mean, why?

00:47:55.180 Why haven't the kings and the queens a thousand years ago done this?

00:48:00.560 Because it doesn't work.

00:48:02.880 But listen, these new socialist MMT economists say debts and deficits don't matter if government controls its own currency like we do in the United States,

00:48:14.680 because MMTers want the government to spend the money, go deeper into debt and keep interest rates at near zero.

00:48:23.740 Now, you would say, well, that's going to lead to inflation.

00:48:27.780 This is the catch.

00:48:29.680 Listen to this.

00:48:30.680 Because MMT supporters say they are very concerned about inflation, and that's what happens when you print trillions of new dollars.

00:48:39.260 But instead of controlling it by raising interest rates, usually the strategy employed by the Fed,

00:48:45.320 they instead use price controls, regulations, subsidies and taxes.

00:48:52.740 Hmm.

00:48:53.580 Stephanie Kelton, now she's I believe she's the one that is working for Bernie Sanders,

00:49:02.160 says, in general, the MMT solution to inflation is to increase government control of economic activity.

00:49:10.740 The more actively we regulate big business for public purpose, the tighter full employment we can achieve.

00:49:17.840 They also advocate limiting customers' abilities to borrow to buy specific goods and services if their prices are rising too quickly.

00:49:25.480 Secondly, the somebody else says income policies and wage rules could also hold down inflation if needed.

00:49:34.060 So, you know, this is the policy of FDR.

00:49:39.480 It didn't work.

00:49:41.500 It creates an underground black market and it makes everybody a criminal because it doesn't work.

00:49:49.180 It is complete government control of an economy.

00:49:53.640 And that's why socialists want it, because they get you with, don't worry, you can spend two trillion dollars.

00:50:01.220 Don't worry, we're in this we're in this together, gang.

00:50:04.620 We have to print it.

00:50:05.620 There's no there's no chance that we can get out of this.

00:50:08.840 You you you you you're now saying that we have to cut back on all the things that were promised to our old people.

00:50:15.200 How dare you say that?

00:50:17.320 Of course, we can afford it.

00:50:19.060 We can just print the money.

00:50:20.800 This is how it always starts.

00:50:26.180 And I believe, Stu, and help me out, please talk me out of this.

00:50:30.680 I think this is we're already doing this.

00:50:33.000 I think Congress is already way down this this road.

00:50:41.000 I totally think they're down this road.

00:50:43.460 I mean, and this is, you know, what's what's kind of, you know, and it goes back to what we were just talking about.

00:50:48.500 There doesn't seem to be opposition to it.

00:50:51.540 We go into these areas.

00:50:54.380 We launch all of these things that are presented as emergencies.

00:50:58.600 And many of them are.

00:50:59.880 I mean, like this is a legitimate we're in a legitimate emergency situation right now.

00:51:03.920 You do what you have to do to get through it, as is always the case.

00:51:08.100 And it's a case you've been making going back to 9-11, at least that I can remember, as long as I've known you, which is these things get put in place without sunsets.

00:51:16.640 And if there is if there is no ending to it built into the bill in which they have to go in and redo it and reauthorize it over and over again, they will stay forever.

00:51:28.300 Now, the sunset is not is not a full protection because they do author reauthorize it over and over again.

00:51:34.420 And they will continue to do it as they've been doing for a long time with all those 9-11 programs, you know, some of which are OK, some of which are really bad.

00:51:43.120 And that is something that there doesn't seem to be much of an appetite for right now on either side of the aisle.

00:51:50.220 There's not a there's not a lot of people questioning how far this should go.

00:51:54.520 I mean, look at, you know, Thomas Massey just wanted people to vote on it and people got angry at him.

00:52:00.160 And this is this is why Thomas Massey is going to end up being a hero to everybody.

00:52:04.360 I think is he is absolutely right that they need to vote on it.

00:52:09.640 Nancy Pelosi just said yesterday that she doesn't want any kind of computerized voting for Congress, even though five people, five members of Congress already have covid-19.

00:52:20.460 They should all be staying at home, working from home.

00:52:23.340 We're doing it.

00:52:24.100 They're telling us to do it.

00:52:25.380 But for some reason, they all have to get onto an airplane and come in and vote, which she says, no, they shouldn't.

00:52:33.120 We should just pass these things with consent.

00:52:37.240 So all they're doing now is they're cutting Congress completely out.

00:52:43.180 There is no there is no debate on these things.

00:52:46.580 It's just the leadership deciding.

00:52:49.600 And then, OK, yep, looks like we have a quorum.

00:52:53.720 But there's nobody in Congress.

00:52:56.460 OK, we just want to we just want to everybody just ready to pass this.

00:53:01.780 Yep.

00:53:02.120 OK, good.

00:53:03.200 The eyes have it and they pass it.

00:53:04.880 And that is the end of the republic.

00:53:08.160 That is the end of the republic.

00:53:10.120 And that cannot happen.

00:53:12.720 And you need to get on the phone with your congressman, who's probably at home and say, you've got to get a some sort of a vote digitally.

00:53:24.500 You shouldn't have to go back to Washington, but do not miss any of these votes.

00:53:30.320 You put pressure on Nancy Pelosi and on the government.

00:53:33.940 You have to have votes in Congress because they I'm telling you right now, you are going to see things that they would have never been able to get through.

00:53:43.300 You're going to see a basic minimum wage.

00:53:46.260 You'll see it.

00:53:49.260 Universal basic income income.

00:53:51.400 Oh, yeah.

00:53:51.760 Yeah.

00:53:52.200 Yeah.

00:53:53.400 You'll see a basic basic universal income where everybody will get a check.

00:53:58.120 And right now it'll seem like, OK, well, that's good.

00:54:01.460 We're going to send you twelve hundred dollars a month.

00:54:03.320 OK, that's good.

00:54:04.480 Well, that's not a universal basic income.

00:54:07.100 That is something to tide you over while you're not working.

00:54:12.620 That's different.

00:54:14.520 If if they put this in and they don't have a hard, fast and this program ends when this happens, not an not an end when the crisis is over, because crisis, they can never end.

00:54:30.960 It has to have a hard end.

00:54:33.040 We do this until June 1st and then it's over and we don't just vote to do it again.

00:54:40.320 It has to start all over again.

00:54:44.340 That's really what you have to do on some of these things.

00:54:47.360 But, Stu, I think you're exactly right.

00:54:50.160 The Democrats are looking at I mean.

00:54:55.620 This book is going to be history, this book that we're that I just put out comes out next week,

00:55:02.520 arguing with socialists.

00:55:05.620 It could become just nothing but a history book, a road map on what finally ended America,

00:55:14.300 because all of these things are going to be in these bills.

00:55:18.240 You're going to see all of them because we talk about in this book.

00:55:22.520 We we we interviewed and we took we took in former interviews.

00:55:29.880 We took articles written by all of the people that are socialists, hardcore socialists and the designers of all of the bills and everything else that's going on for the hardcore socialist.

00:55:41.820 And we took them at their word.

00:55:44.220 What is it you're trying to do?

00:55:46.480 It's all in here.

00:55:47.980 And you will see.

00:55:49.760 I mean, there's one whole chapter.

00:55:51.400 I think the last chapter is just on modern modern monetary theory.

00:55:54.920 And, you know, we basically call it the nuclear bomb.

00:55:58.160 This is the way this is the way everything goes off track.

00:56:01.060 This is the one that if this would ever happen, you just lose everything you lose everything.

00:56:09.500 Well, you better know what it is, because I think we're doing it.

00:56:15.000 I think the Fed is doing it right now.

00:56:17.160 And I really want to talk to to Stephen Moore about that and get his opinion, because the Fed is is now just printing money for the entire world, for the entire world.

00:56:33.260 They're buying their treasuries back.

00:56:37.160 And any central bank can call up the Federal Reserve now and say, hey, we've got all these T bills here that we bought.

00:56:43.500 We were holding your debt.

00:56:44.660 But, you know, it's like gold.

00:56:46.780 Hey, you know, it's like gold.

00:56:48.060 Would you guys take your debt back?

00:56:50.120 And can you give us dollars back?

00:56:52.000 I know we're not supposed to do this.

00:56:53.800 Sure, sure.

00:56:54.400 But will you promise to buy him back after this crisis?

00:56:57.180 Oh, yeah, absolutely.

00:56:59.900 Holy cow.

00:57:01.240 Holy cow.

00:57:02.900 The world awash with money.

00:57:04.920 There was plenty of money, but nothing our money could buy, as Rudyard Kipling once said.

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00:59:09.300 So, Stu, we were just talking about cryptocurrency.

00:59:14.080 What is cryptocurrency up to now?

00:59:15.720 $6,000?

00:59:16.560 You're talking about Bitcoin, yeah.

00:59:17.660 I think it's been around $5,000 to $6,000, yeah.

00:59:20.540 Has not exploded as many would have predicted in a situation like this.

00:59:24.120 Yeah.

00:59:24.740 How?

00:59:25.520 With people looking for places to put their money, how is that not exploding?

00:59:29.720 What has happened?

00:59:30.560 The easy explanation is the people who are invested in cryptocurrency are people with excess regular currency.

00:59:37.400 So, the fact that the economy is in shambles is meaning that they're not spending as much on that either.

00:59:42.340 It's not really, it's not a great case use for it though.

00:59:45.620 I mean, here's a situation where you'd think, where a place where like handing each other actual money is a problem, it would be a good indication or a good use for cryptocurrency to thrive.

01:00:00.280 And it has not really done that.

01:00:02.360 So, it's been, I know a lot of people are disappointed in that so far.

01:00:05.920 I mean, it hasn't fallen apart completely either, but it's just kind of mirrored the market, which is not as encouraging as you would think if there's an actual use for it.

01:00:15.140 But, gold hasn't.

01:00:17.100 See, this is what kills me.

01:00:19.380 Gold is, right now, almost impossible to get.

01:00:22.180 If you didn't have, like Goldline has a big supply of gold and they're one of the biggest suppliers of gold in America.

01:00:29.040 So, they have these vaults with a lot of gold in it.

01:00:31.940 But you go and try to get physical gold in a lot of places, you can't right now.

01:00:36.100 There's a shortage of gold.

01:00:37.280 And that's because people are not buying the ETFs, although they're doing that too.

01:00:41.620 They're trying to get their hands on physical gold.

01:00:43.780 So, how is there such a rush on gold that I've never seen before?

01:00:51.360 And yet, cryptocurrency.

01:00:53.120 I mean, it shows that there's something fundamentally wrong, I think, with cryptocurrency.

01:00:58.420 And it's just not going anywhere.

01:01:02.960 And I think it hasn't helped also that the federal government, at least the Democrats, are trying to have a new U.S. dollar in cryptocurrency.

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01:03:30.280 Interesting.

01:03:30.840 Will you be hiding?

01:03:33.080 Do you have the information there, too?

01:03:36.580 Because I know you make money off of fear, so I'm curious if you're going to hide the information of the real cure to this or not.

01:03:45.000 Oh, do we have a cure?

01:03:46.320 I wasn't aware that there was a cure, but maybe I'm in the pocket of big pharmaceuticals.

01:03:53.220 There's one treatment, I would say, and one cure, one complete cure.

01:03:58.020 And if you want to hide it, we can do that?

01:03:59.620 We can keep playing this game?

01:04:00.680 No, go ahead.

01:04:01.140 No, go ahead.

01:04:02.180 You want to get the information out to the people.

01:04:03.640 Okay, good.

01:04:04.400 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:04:05.360 The president of Belarus is letting his people know that vodkas and saunas will cure coronavirus.

01:04:14.320 Wow.

01:04:15.020 Okay.

01:04:15.620 Vodka and saunas.

01:04:16.440 And he also is saying, because they are still doing sporting events there, and he said that the best antivirus remedy is sports.

01:04:27.660 So, if you were to play sports drunk and then go into a sauna, there'd be almost no chance.

01:04:35.840 How about play sports drunk in a sauna?

01:04:39.700 I'm just saying.

01:04:40.660 That's the ultimate cure, maybe.

01:04:41.800 Well, that's not the ultimate cure.

01:04:42.940 You know what's amazing is, this is Joe Rogan talked about this on his podcast a couple of weeks ago.

01:04:47.520 He was like, I hear saunas are good for the doctors like, no, Joe.

01:04:52.380 No.

01:04:52.960 But I mean, I'm breathing in the hot air.

01:04:54.740 No, Joe, to sterilize it, your lungs would burn up.

01:04:57.680 Okay, no, it wouldn't work.

01:04:59.000 A lot of people do believe that one.

01:05:00.000 That one has actually passed around a lot on the internet, the sauna part of it, the vodka part of it.

01:05:03.660 I guess you could see, you know, as a disinfectant, sometimes alcohol would be, I could say it does make you feel better for at least a short period of time.

01:05:11.920 I don't think that's a cure.

01:05:13.280 Do you see that alcohol sales have gone up like 45%?

01:05:17.440 I think this is going to be, in all honesty, the lasting legacy, one of the lasting legacies of this is there's going to be a hell of a lot more alcoholism.

01:05:25.600 And as my wife, my wife was telling me, she saw something online where they said, you know, think about the generation in 20 or 30 years that has been homeschooled by alcoholic parents.

01:05:37.040 And then it's going to be ugly.

01:05:39.580 It's true that, you know, that your entertainment is watching the Tiger King.

01:05:43.720 Yeah.

01:05:44.560 You know, that's not a healthy, it's not a healthy thing for America right now.

01:05:48.400 No, although curing this completely would be.

01:05:50.660 And that's why we, as we always do, when we want a real cure and real news, we go to Turkmenistan.

01:05:58.040 Oh, there's another cure.

01:06:00.000 Yes, this is the real cure.

01:06:00.920 That's just a treatment, I think.

01:06:01.920 You can have some vodka, that'll treat the problem.

01:06:04.440 The cure, though, has been found in Turkmenistan with Gerbang...

01:06:08.060 Bullet to head.

01:06:08.960 Yes, exactly.

01:06:10.380 Gerbangali Berde Mukha Madoff, as you know, he's the president...

01:06:13.520 Oh, I love him.

01:06:14.480 ...of Turkmenistan.

01:06:15.600 And, of course, the former...

01:06:16.600 Any relation to Bernie Madoff?

01:06:20.000 No, actually, no relation.

01:06:21.740 No.

01:06:21.900 He was the dentist of the former president, though.

01:06:24.720 And think of how good of a dentist you'd have to be to be handed the presidency when the old guy dies.

01:06:28.860 Yeah.

01:06:29.160 They're just like, you know what, who are we going to go with?

01:06:30.540 The dentist.

01:06:31.340 He'll be great.

01:06:32.420 So he's running the country there.

01:06:33.520 I want to be a dentist.

01:06:34.600 Yeah.

01:06:34.920 Mm-hmm.

01:06:35.380 Yeah, Hermie should have gone there.

01:06:37.200 That would have been a good idea.

01:06:39.540 So they have done something there that has completely cured coronavirus.

01:06:42.180 And what they've done is they have banned the word coronavirus.

01:06:48.860 Ah.

01:06:49.740 So now...

01:06:50.640 That's good, yeah.

01:06:51.120 Literally no one can get it because it is completely banned from all existence.

01:06:56.960 They are actually arresting people in the streets if they discuss it.

01:07:02.460 Mm-hmm.

01:07:02.820 Or if they wear a particular protective clothing.

01:07:06.960 They are getting arrested by the police there.

01:07:10.480 And I, look, I think, I don't know why we don't go this way.

01:07:14.100 This is kind of like, this seems like the right sort of solution.

01:07:17.240 It's like when you, if you ban certain words, we all know they go away.

01:07:21.380 Sure.

01:07:21.780 Exactly right.

01:07:22.260 That's the way the left has always taught us.

01:07:23.860 If you don't say the mean words about a certain group, that means that the racism goes away or whatever.

01:07:28.860 You're right.

01:07:29.580 So I think we take the Turkmenistan approach.

01:07:32.220 Mm-hmm.

01:07:32.600 I think that's a, I think that's, I mean, that is right in there with lefty logic.

01:07:38.520 It is.

01:07:39.200 It is.

01:07:39.540 Uh, Stu, can I, can I please, uh, assign some homework to you?

01:07:44.320 Oh, I love that.

01:07:45.540 That sounds like a great idea.

01:07:46.440 I know you do.

01:07:47.140 I know you do.

01:07:47.960 I want you to watch at least three episodes of the Tiger King today.

01:07:52.780 Today?

01:07:53.340 Okay.

01:07:53.760 Three episodes?

01:07:54.820 Today.

01:07:55.560 You know, what are you doing with your day?

01:07:56.740 I have, I mean, yeah, I know.

01:07:57.960 I got a show.

01:07:58.460 I still come to work for a living.

01:08:00.040 Okay.

01:08:00.620 I still am working.

01:08:02.140 You're working.

01:08:02.620 First of all.

01:08:02.920 I got a show too.

01:08:03.740 You're working at home.

01:08:04.960 Okay.

01:08:05.260 You don't have to come into work on these very busy roads with the four cars.

01:08:09.960 I know.

01:08:10.420 Yeah.

01:08:10.880 I know.

01:08:11.280 It's impossible to get any work done.

01:08:11.960 Okay.

01:08:11.980 So anyway, listen, I want you to watch at least two episodes.

01:08:16.020 Okay.

01:08:16.340 Mm-hmm.

01:08:16.640 At least two episodes of Tiger King, because I have to ask you a question.

01:08:20.180 I think Carol is a killer.

01:08:24.960 Now, this is Carol Baskin.

01:08:26.860 You're accusing someone of murder on national radio?

01:08:30.680 Oh, yeah, but you'll be there with me.

01:08:32.800 Okay.

01:08:32.940 You'll be there with me.

01:08:33.680 Okay.

01:08:34.120 So here's the thing.

01:08:35.400 They're starting to look into this now because her husband just disappeared.

01:08:41.420 He was a millionaire, blah, blah, blah, and he just disappeared.

01:08:44.500 And she thought that this whole documentary, she was part of this because she thought it

01:08:52.860 would raise awareness and people would hate, you know, Joe the Tiger King.

01:08:57.380 And you don't, you know, necessarily fall in love with him, but you certainly don't fall

01:09:01.640 in love with her.

01:09:02.460 And she wanted this whole thing to stop.

01:09:04.440 And so she started this big cat preserve in Tampa.

01:09:07.440 By the way, I'd love to hear from people in Tampa.

01:09:10.740 Do you know Carol?

01:09:11.900 Have you been there?

01:09:12.740 I mean, it looks horrible.

01:09:15.260 Anyway, she is, her husband just disappeared.

01:09:22.140 And the, she had just called, like, let me see if I can find this here.

01:09:30.980 He had just called or she had just called the police.

01:09:34.860 She had been trying to get a divorce off and on from him for a while.

01:09:38.180 Um, and the Hillsborough County Sheriff's Department, uh, had heard from her and she said that,

01:09:47.580 uh, that her husband was trying to kill me.

01:09:51.260 And then all of a sudden he just disappears.

01:09:55.240 And she said, oh, he had the early onset Alzheimer's and his, his van was found at the airport.

01:10:03.380 No sign of him, nothing.

01:10:05.540 And they think that maybe she killed him and then fed him to the lions.

01:10:12.140 She says that's ridiculous.

01:10:14.680 Tigers or lions in, uh, Tiger King?

01:10:17.900 Is it the actually lions too?

01:10:19.540 Tigers, lions.

01:10:19.920 They're all big.

01:10:20.560 Yeah.

01:10:20.680 There's all big cats.

01:10:21.660 Okay.

01:10:22.560 Um, and she's got eight of them.

01:10:24.860 Joe, I think has like a hundred and I don't know, 40, something like that.

01:10:28.520 It seems like a reasonable number of, of tigers to have.

01:10:32.460 Yeah, of course.

01:10:33.580 Of course.

01:10:34.260 Okay.

01:10:34.540 So now the, the sheriff's department is investigating and saying, we want any new leads on her missing,

01:10:42.420 uh, her missing husband.

01:10:43.560 So this is totally turned around on her where she really thought it was going to hurt him.

01:10:49.840 He's actually coming out looking like the good guy to some degree.

01:10:53.900 And she's now, people are starting to say, I think she did it.

01:10:58.420 I personally, I think her current husband, I see him on camera and I'm like, he's waiting

01:11:03.300 for death too.

01:11:04.120 He's just like, please kill me.

01:11:05.320 I'm living with Carol.

01:11:06.120 I don't know what I was thinking when I got married, but look at me now.

01:11:09.320 I'm living with her, uh, on this stupid animal preserve.

01:11:14.440 Ugh.

01:11:15.620 So will you watch this tonight?

01:11:16.960 Cause I, I want to know what you think about Carol.

01:11:19.620 I desperately want to watch it.

01:11:20.820 So I will try to watch it tonight.

01:11:22.000 You're saying, uh, I'll try to get through as many episodes as I can.

01:11:24.520 There is no try.

01:11:25.040 There is no try to, or do not.

01:11:28.660 I will say my wife wants to watch it too.

01:11:31.000 So it's been one of those things that we've been trying to, you know, watch at the same

01:11:35.680 time.

01:11:35.920 You can't Netflix cheat.

01:11:37.040 You don't want to do that.

01:11:38.580 That's bad for a marriage.

01:11:39.700 No, I know.

01:11:40.440 We, I was ready to watch it last night and Tanya couldn't make it.

01:11:43.200 So we didn't watch it as a family last night.

01:11:45.260 Oh, we got the family gathered around the old television set watching Joe, the tiger

01:11:51.600 king.

01:11:53.060 Uh, it is, it's a freak show, by the way, the Kardashians think it's a freak show.

01:11:58.780 Okay.

01:11:59.440 That should tell you something.

01:12:01.300 The Kardashians are watching it going.

01:12:03.840 These people are crazy, crazy.

01:12:06.960 Uh, but Kim Kardashian, uh, said, you know, um, I think that Carol killed her husband.

01:12:15.420 Do you think, what are your thoughts?

01:12:17.040 Do you think she killed her husband?

01:12:19.120 And the internet exploded, exploded.

01:12:23.500 And I think she did.

01:12:25.760 This is amazing.

01:12:26.700 This is our justice system though.

01:12:28.400 Now I don't understand how we got here as a country, but it's like, if crimes don't get

01:12:35.040 investigated unless there's a documentary about them.

01:12:38.140 If there's a podcast, if you've got a lengthy podcast where they go into the details, then

01:12:42.200 you get some, some investigation going on.

01:12:44.400 I just feel like now it's, it's like separate.

01:12:46.920 It's like, they don't get calls for crimes.

01:12:48.660 They get calls for documentaries at the police office.

01:12:50.840 Like, guys, I've been watching this thing on Netflix.

01:12:52.580 Can you guys look into this?

01:12:53.500 That's really like where we're, how we're running things now.

01:12:56.860 That's, that's not a good idea.

01:12:58.720 Is it?

01:13:00.120 I mean, shouldn't there be an investigation into the crime?

01:13:02.860 And like, I don't, I feel like it's a bad idea to have Netflix as our justice department.

01:13:08.580 They did investigations at net, at Netflix.

01:13:11.700 Don't you trust the justice system of Netflix or, or Amazon prime?

01:13:16.300 I say, slap a badge on their chest.

01:13:19.580 We need this old fashioned kind of criminal justice system.

01:13:24.420 We all know it doesn't work.

01:13:26.780 I, I would love to hear from somebody in Tampa who, who knows Carol.

01:13:33.260 If you know her and you, you know, maybe you don't think she, you don't think she, this

01:13:38.840 is probably a reach, you don't think she fed her, her husband to the lions.

01:13:43.740 I'd love to hear from you.

01:13:46.100 She just, I, you know, I think I just don't, I just don't like her.

01:13:50.520 And so when it's, it's weird because when it's television, if you're an unlikable character,

01:13:57.140 yeah, you're willing to believe anything, you know, you just don't like her.

01:14:00.380 Um, yeah.

01:14:01.180 And of course her argument is as is everybody's argument in these situations, they've designed

01:14:05.280 the documentary to make you have strong feelings about these people.

01:14:09.300 And so they've presented her in the worst possible light.

01:14:12.500 I don't think so.

01:14:14.600 No, I don't think so.

01:14:16.020 I mean, I really don't.

01:14:17.320 I mean, this, this, this documentary, they spent enough time with these people that I think

01:14:23.840 you're getting a pretty fair representation of them.

01:14:27.140 I could be wrong, but because there are those moments where she, they're not saying she's

01:14:33.540 a villain in this.

01:14:35.320 I mean, that people are calling her mother Teresa in the, in this, uh, deal.

01:14:39.740 She's showing them with all volunteers and what she's doing with the cats.

01:14:43.040 You just don't, she's just not likable.

01:14:46.220 She is, she's Hillary Clinton with cats, giant cats.

01:14:50.780 Uh, and, and, uh, you know, oh, wait a minute.

01:14:54.760 We have honey in Florida.

01:14:56.020 Uh, she volunteers at big cat rescue.

01:14:58.560 Hello, honey.

01:15:00.980 Hi, Glenn.

01:15:02.480 I have been a listener of yours for many, many years and I love what you do.

01:15:07.000 And I love that you normally do a lot of research when you're talking about certain things, but

01:15:11.960 I've been a volunteer at big cat rescue for 15 years.

01:15:14.800 I would never volunteer my time for someone who I thought killed somebody.

01:15:19.700 I honestly, I honestly, well, no, I know that's a good stuff.

01:15:23.620 And it clear, what'd you say?

01:15:25.280 Because she's dealt with this for over 23 years.

01:15:28.640 So that was nothing new for them to ask her a question.

01:15:31.960 Um, so.

01:15:34.400 Right.

01:15:34.920 I mean, and she, I know, and she says that.

01:15:37.300 People have been asking her for years.

01:15:39.500 Right.

01:15:40.420 And she says that, that I've heard this over and over and over again, but they're, they're,

01:15:44.900 you know, her husband did disappear.

01:15:46.900 It is suspicious, you know, and she does have a way to get rid of the body.

01:15:51.680 I'm right.

01:15:53.540 And do you know her, honey?

01:15:56.760 Yes.

01:15:57.200 I have known her for 15 years.

01:15:58.700 I volunteer there daily.

01:16:00.400 I'm actually going to be volunteering there tonight.

01:16:03.560 Okay.

01:16:04.100 So do you, if you go to, do you think.

01:16:06.460 It's an organization that has, hold on.

01:16:08.720 It's an organization that has cameras all over the world for animal animals.

01:16:13.660 We are the only big cat sanctuary that has cameras in it.

01:16:17.960 They are not what they depicted on that program.

01:16:23.020 What she was sitting in front of was what's called a lockout.

01:16:25.900 It is where the animals can eat and drink.

01:16:28.460 They have much larger enclosures.

01:16:30.380 Even our small cats have enclosures the same size as a small house.

01:16:34.360 Our big cats have much larger enclosures.

01:16:36.540 We have a two and a half acre vacation rotation that our cats go through.

01:16:41.520 They stay out there for a month at a time.

01:16:43.320 So they get even more space.

01:16:45.840 Okay.

01:16:46.120 All right.

01:16:46.660 So don't.

01:16:47.720 Okay.

01:16:47.980 No, I'm doing the research right now.

01:16:50.260 This is the research you're listening to.

01:16:51.900 This is the, you're listening to it.

01:16:53.920 There's no research on this one, but I will tell you, I appreciate you calling honey.

01:16:59.040 And, and you answered the question on whether you're getting a fair view or not.

01:17:04.400 And that's why I wanted people to call in and we'll do more on this probably tomorrow.

01:17:08.340 Uh, but I wanted to get Stu's, uh, view on this.

01:17:12.480 It's a show and I know it's got human beings lives involved in it, but it's a show.

01:17:18.140 You know what I mean?

01:17:18.960 Uh, honey, thank you very much.

01:17:20.580 I appreciate it.

01:17:21.540 It's not really helpful.

01:17:22.280 Is it?

01:17:22.740 No, not if you're not for her, not for her, not for her.

01:17:27.340 That's the problem.

01:17:28.300 We, we watch these things and it's not real people.

01:17:30.780 Right, but this is my complaint about why we're running the justice system this way.

01:17:34.140 It's not a, ah, there's cases intentionally.

01:17:37.340 Pipe down, pipe down.

01:17:39.300 All right.

01:17:40.440 Uh, is, is your pain at all keeping you from doing the things that you love to do?

01:17:46.360 Are you, I mean, right now you're locked in the house is probably not from pain.

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01:18:36.400 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

01:18:50.980 I'll see what I've, see what I've, I've opened, uh, I've opened a can of tigers.

01:18:56.360 Now, uh, I've got people on the phone saying that, honey is crazy.

01:19:01.440 She, of course she killed her husband.

01:19:03.020 Oh boy.

01:19:03.600 Oh boy.

01:19:04.400 Oh boy.

01:19:04.880 Uh, I apologize.

01:19:07.020 We shouldn't have, but Stu, I think she killed her husband.

01:19:09.660 So would you just check on that?

01:19:11.780 The only thing worse than doing, uh, you know, justice department work through documentary

01:19:16.780 is doing it through talk radio.

01:19:18.660 I think, but that's what everybody is doing all across the country.

01:19:23.420 Everybody is doing it.

01:19:25.120 And you know, if you don't like Carol, uh, hang on because you give that documentary five

01:19:31.360 more minutes and you're going to find somebody even more unlikable, uh, it's, it's, you know,

01:19:36.720 the only ones that make any sense in it are the lions and the tigers and the bears.

01:19:41.200 And you just look at them and you're like, I know, brother, I know.

01:19:44.160 And you're the one in the cage.

01:19:46.000 Doesn't make sense.

01:19:46.880 Does it?

01:19:48.240 Uh, all right.

01:19:49.060 The economy, our coronavirus update and how we restart this engine next to Glenn Beck.

01:19:56.300 Hello, America.

01:20:00.880 Welcome to the program today, our coronavirus update.

01:20:04.160 I'm going to try to keep it a short, as my uncle Leo used to say, keep it a short.

01:20:08.500 Uh, we'll do that here in just a second.

01:20:11.040 Uh, and Stephen Moore is going to join us because I am, I'm, I'm really concerned about what does

01:20:16.820 this mean in the future for the economy and how do we get out of the now and become futurists

01:20:22.120 and start looking at new possibilities and new ways, uh, to capture the spirit of America

01:20:28.380 as we go through this coronavirus update and so much more in one minute.

01:20:33.980 This is the Glenn Beck program.

01:20:37.060 So yesterday we had the, uh, founder and owner of my pillow on the news and, uh, or on the show.

01:20:42.720 And, uh, he's been in the news for, for going up in the Rose garden.

01:20:48.380 And while he was being thanked by the president, uh, for making 50,000 surgical masks a day,

01:20:56.900 they've totally repackaged my pillow, uh, and they've, they've taken and stopped making pillows

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01:21:10.900 And he did it because he wanted to help out and the, the media just bashed him because he dared to mention God

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01:21:24.380 He's a real American hero.

01:21:26.740 Uh, and he makes great products when he isn't trying to save the country.

01:21:31.220 Um, I, I think he is extraordinarily brave.

01:21:35.080 I don't know what happened to his business, uh, or what's going to happen to his business as he's just retooled all of this.

01:21:42.600 Uh, and when half the country is told to hate him, he's got a different life in front of him.

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01:23:06.720 I want to give you a quick, uh, update here as we, uh, get ready for Stephen Moore joining us.

01:23:12.000 The daily stats, total confirmed deaths now worldwide 43,271.

01:23:19.000 That's up from 38,000 yesterday.

01:23:21.360 What's amazing is we're now talking about in America alone, a death count over a hundred thousand between a hundred and two hundred thousand just in America.

01:23:31.180 Total confirmed cases.

01:23:32.300 Now we approach a million, eight hundred and seventy two thousand up from seven hundred and ninety nine.

01:23:39.100 So almost about 80,000 new cases yesterday.

01:23:42.400 We now have 188,000 confirmed cases and 4,000 deaths.

01:23:48.140 That's up 20,000 in, uh, the, uh, case count and up almost a thousand in deaths just in the last 24 hour.

01:23:58.040 We now lead the world in total confirmed cases with 78,000.

01:24:02.520 That's more cases than Italy.

01:24:04.560 Although Italy leads the world in deaths with 12,428.

01:24:10.200 11% of the U.S.

01:24:11.780 Confirmed cases are requiring hospitalization roughly on par with Italy.

01:24:16.660 We, we may have a lot of cases, but not per capita.

01:24:20.580 We are 24th in total confirmed cases per 1 million people with 507 cases per 1 million.

01:24:29.200 Spain has 2,185 cases, more than four times the amount per, uh, million.

01:24:37.480 We are 28th in total confirmed dead, uh, per 1 million with 12 dead per 1 million citizens.

01:24:45.940 Italy has 206 dead per 1 million.

01:24:49.860 Now, here's the thing that we want to transition into with, uh, Stephen Moore.

01:24:54.200 The U S energy industry is on the verge of a massive collapse for the first time in my lifetime.

01:25:01.760 It could be said three weeks ago that the United States was free from all foreign energy.

01:25:09.280 We were energy independent for the first time in my lifetime.

01:25:14.520 We have been trying to get that monkey off of our back forever.

01:25:17.540 Well, under Trump, we finally accomplished it.

01:25:22.260 Now the U S energy market is on the verge of massive collapse.

01:25:28.560 Here's why Russia and the, uh, Saudis have just been pumping oil.

01:25:34.360 Like there is no tomorrow.

01:25:36.100 They've been trying to collapse the United States energy, uh, independence.

01:25:40.780 They need us to be hooked on their energy.

01:25:43.940 Well, they did that.

01:25:45.460 As soon as the airlines started to collapse all around the world, transportation is down

01:25:52.120 45%.

01:25:53.120 So that's why you're seeing gas prices going so low.

01:26:00.620 In fact, they're going so low.

01:26:01.740 There's so much oil.

01:26:02.740 Now we are literally swimming in oil.

01:26:04.560 The world is that they're thinking now that that the price could even go into the negative

01:26:09.880 range for a price of a barrel of oil.

01:26:12.580 So they'd pay you five bucks to take the oil because there's no place to store all of the

01:26:18.740 oil.

01:26:19.060 Rick Perry has recommended that U S refineries be restricted now from importing and refining

01:26:24.940 any foreign petroleum products for at least 60 days as a means to help domestic energy producers

01:26:30.840 in Texas, North Dakota, Pennsylvania, and Colorado.

01:26:34.360 I think this is something that as an emergency step, the president should do.

01:26:38.960 If independent energy producers go out of business, we are handing the market back to

01:26:45.040 Russia and Saudi Arabia.

01:26:46.820 Rick Perry says it's 1974 all over again in our bailout nation.

01:26:53.780 Now the car industry needs a bailout year over year.

01:26:57.060 Automobile sales in the U S are off as much as 90%.

01:27:01.180 Analysts say April is going to be worse.

01:27:05.340 Dan Ferguson said everything you need to know.

01:27:08.840 He's the manager of a Ford dealership in Arizona.

01:27:11.440 He said he may have to lay off his entire staff of 48 employees.

01:27:14.840 He said, we hear there are supposed to be government loan programs for small

01:27:18.400 businesses, but that money may be meet weeks away.

01:27:21.720 I can't make payroll today.

01:27:25.340 One other, it looks like in, uh, New York, 40% of renters are not going to be able to

01:27:36.360 make rent this month and it's expected to be worse next month.

01:27:41.320 The problem with that is stick it to the landlord, right?

01:27:45.720 Except the landlord's not getting entry relief.

01:27:48.160 How is the landlord?

01:27:49.200 If he's not getting rent, going to be able to pay for all the water, garbage, uh, electricity,

01:27:56.200 everything that it takes to run one of these apartment buildings.

01:27:59.880 There is a meltdown coming.

01:28:02.280 Steven Moore is joining us now.

01:28:04.700 Hello, Steven.

01:28:05.360 How are you?

01:28:07.560 Well, hi, Glenn.

01:28:08.480 I just listened to what you were saying and it is, it is just so catastrophic.

01:28:12.740 I mean, it makes my heart drop to hear these stories about business after business going

01:28:17.460 bankrupt and, you know, it's just, it's heartbreaking.

01:28:21.700 And, you know, I, I can't tell you how many business men and women have called me in the last

01:28:26.440 few days and said the same thing.

01:28:27.900 I can't meet payroll, you know, uh, revenues and customers out of the oxygen supply of the

01:28:32.940 business.

01:28:34.220 And, uh, you know, I, I'm sorry.

01:28:37.340 I just, I think this, I haven't talked to you about it recently, Glenn, but I just don't

01:28:42.300 think that this lockdown of our economy is the right thing to do.

01:28:45.120 I think that that suffering, human suffering, the trillions of dollars of losses, the millions

01:28:51.160 of people who've spent the heroes of our economy, the people who've built up businesses

01:28:55.580 from ground floor to, you know, put their whole life into it, to see it ruined in a

01:28:59.760 matter of weeks, you know, it's unspeakable.

01:29:03.880 It's horrible.

01:29:04.400 We got to get our economy reopened.

01:29:07.320 So Steven, I agree with you.

01:29:09.400 I just don't see a way of doing that safely.

01:29:13.560 Um, and the problem is, is, you know, there, there might be 200,000 dead, but if we destroy

01:29:20.400 the engine of the world, if we destroy this and we can't get back online and start really

01:29:28.480 jumping back in, how many millions will die because America is, is, is in wreckage?

01:29:37.200 Well, that's the question we should be asking.

01:29:41.480 And these are tough questions.

01:29:42.680 I was, uh, I apologize for being a little late for your show today.

01:29:45.460 I was on the phone with some of the folks at the White House talking about this and it's

01:29:48.920 a, you know, the president's got some really tough decisions to make.

01:29:51.840 And this is, you know, his true Chilean moment.

01:29:54.080 He has to, he has to guide us through this.

01:29:56.520 Um, I think the idea, you know, I live in Virginia.

01:29:59.840 Our governor insanely has said that he wants to keep the economy locked down until the middle

01:30:04.260 of June.

01:30:04.860 That to me is not crazy economy.

01:30:07.760 It's crazy.

01:30:08.540 It's a lunatic.

01:30:09.420 I mean, you do that.

01:30:10.340 There's not going to be an economy left to rebuild in, in, in, uh, in June when, when the

01:30:14.740 things are reopened.

01:30:15.640 So, you know, it's interesting.

01:30:17.100 I'm going to give you some rays of sunlight here.

01:30:19.220 I had a long conversation, uh, Glenn with one of my heroes, Fred Smith, uh, the CEO of FedEx,

01:30:25.600 one of America's great, great companies, one of our largest companies and biggest employers.

01:30:29.800 And, uh, we spoke for about an hour and he, he has, he's up and running, you know,

01:30:33.840 he, and they're up, they're up and running, uh, not just in the United States, but throughout

01:30:37.200 the world, as you know, they have 350,000 employees in the United States, 350,000.

01:30:42.560 That's a lot.

01:30:42.980 That's like a, you know, pretty medium sized city.

01:30:45.840 And I said, how many of those people, because they've been working for the last six, eight

01:30:49.020 weeks.

01:30:49.320 I said, how many have come out down sick?

01:30:51.220 He said less than 400.

01:30:52.660 So that's one in a thousand, you know, that's one in a thousand.

01:30:55.680 And what he's saying is they're using all the best practices, the medical practices.

01:30:59.480 They're doing sterilizations and disinfectants and they're wearing masks and they're wearing,

01:31:04.280 you know, wearing gloves and they're doing social distancing in the workplace.

01:31:07.240 And I'm here to tell you, Glenn, I think we can do this in a smart way that reduce the

01:31:12.360 risks of death.

01:31:13.000 We may have to tolerate some additional deaths, but that's the kind of decision we make every

01:31:17.660 day and every policy decision we make.

01:31:20.560 But, uh, you know, there's a rule of thumb, every 10,000, uh, every one percentage point increase

01:31:25.600 in the unemployment rate.

01:31:26.580 And this is a rule of thumb, but it's fairly, uh, you know, accurate historically, every

01:31:30.720 one percentage point increase in unemployment rate is associated with 10,000 additional

01:31:34.700 deaths in the United States.

01:31:36.220 Some economists are saying we're going to see a 25% unemployment rate in this country.

01:31:39.780 And that's very conceivable if we continue to lock down our economy.

01:31:43.500 So there we've just caught 200,000 more deaths just from raising the unemployment rate.

01:31:48.440 So we have to be very smart about this and calibrated in our decisions.

01:31:52.680 Uh, and, and I just don't think that this idea of there's this trade-off between our economy

01:31:58.280 and our health is being discussed in a responsible manner.

01:32:02.740 So Steven, um, the fed came out with their prediction of 32 and a half percent unemployment

01:32:10.480 by June 1st.

01:32:12.280 And that is, I mean, the height of the depression was, I think, 25%.

01:32:17.980 We've never seen anything like that.

01:32:20.880 What should Americans expect or prepare for?

01:32:25.600 Well, God, let's, let's pray that that doesn't happen because, you know, then, you know,

01:32:32.240 you're talking, you go back to my rule of thumb, there's about 300,000 additional deaths

01:32:35.500 just from the, rising the unemployment rate.

01:32:38.120 Uh, and that, and that also, that also is revolution.

01:32:41.740 That's, that's, that's revolution territory.

01:32:44.180 Yeah.

01:32:44.640 I, yeah, see, this is what worries me is I think you're going to get, uh, you know, social

01:32:48.680 chaos in that situation when you have that many people unemployed, you're going to, it doesn't

01:32:53.380 look, Glenn, let me, let me start from the beginning here.

01:32:55.400 Cause no, none of the panads of Washington understand this.

01:32:58.240 They keep thinking, oh, we're just going to keep having one, you know, bailout bill after

01:33:02.720 another one stimulus bill after another 2 trillion, 3 trillion, 4 trillion, $5 trillion.

01:33:07.780 And then the fed says, we're just going to keep printing money.

01:33:09.820 And I'm here to tell you, Glenn, it doesn't matter how much money the fed prints.

01:33:14.120 It doesn't matter how many of these rescue plans, how many trillions of dollars they put

01:33:18.420 into helicopters and dump over cities.

01:33:20.380 If the American economy isn't producing, it collapses.

01:33:24.140 It doesn't matter how much money they're there.

01:33:26.400 I mean, they're acting like we only need, this is this, this is the crazy thing, Steven.

01:33:32.240 I don't understand why they just didn't say moratorium on rent and, and mortgages and everything

01:33:39.420 else for, for two months or whatever it is, because what people need to know right now is I

01:33:46.040 can pay my, I can pay my basic bills.

01:33:49.360 I can pay for, uh, you know, the rent and my company doesn't have to worry about their

01:33:54.940 mortgage on their building and those big items.

01:33:58.240 I don't know why we're not covering that because we're not going out in spending.

01:34:02.680 We're not doing it.

01:34:04.120 And so all we need right now is just to not lose our place.

01:34:10.920 That's what we need.

01:34:12.240 Just don't lose our place.

01:34:13.480 Don't lose, don't let me lose my restaurant that I've worked my whole life to build because

01:34:18.620 I can't afford the rent.

01:34:21.340 That's happening as we speak.

01:34:23.260 And it's heartbreaking.

01:34:24.140 It's happening in neighborhoods, several around the country and, and, uh, towns and, uh, you

01:34:30.020 know, I, is there any talk in Washington about doing anything for that?

01:34:35.160 Well, we just sent out, uh, you know, $1,200 per, uh, adult and $500 per child.

01:34:41.900 And we've got the, you know, the unemployment insurance that is paying people a hundred percent

01:34:46.240 of what their paychecks are.

01:34:47.340 So we're providing a lot of aid.

01:34:49.320 Uh, I, but the problem isn't the aid it's, it's, we need our businesses to

01:34:54.120 be functioning, you know, I mean, yeah, they need to be functioning.

01:34:58.320 They need to be open.

01:34:59.480 You mentioned that, that story about, um, you know, I was listening to what you're saying

01:35:03.500 before I came to the people not paying the rent.

01:35:06.160 I just got up the phone with a woman who owns, uh, apartment buildings throughout the

01:35:10.740 country.

01:35:11.040 She is not rich by any means.

01:35:12.920 That's how she makes money.

01:35:14.060 And she says, basically, uh, starting two weeks ago, zero, everybody stopped the rent because

01:35:20.340 the government saying, Hey, you can not pay your rent and you won't be evicted.

01:35:23.040 But if people are making this as well, I'm just not going to pay.

01:35:25.620 Well, think about that means now she doesn't have any income, right?

01:35:28.500 Cause nobody's paying her rent.

01:35:29.760 So she can't pay her bills.

01:35:31.480 So she has to foreclose on the, you know, on the bank, the loan she has from the bank.

01:35:36.700 The bank now doesn't have any money.

01:35:37.980 I mean, I worried this cascades in a really ugly way.

01:35:41.280 If we don't really get up and running again, yeah, it reorders everything.

01:35:47.000 And the only ones, the only ones that might win are at the very, very top or at the, at

01:35:53.540 the, uh, at the government level.

01:35:56.180 Uh, nobody wins in this one.

01:35:58.780 Nobody wins in this one.

01:35:59.920 All right, Stephen, hang on just a second.

01:36:02.120 Hang on just a second.

01:36:04.380 We'll be back in just a second.

01:36:05.500 Let me just take one minute and tell you about gold.

01:36:07.780 And I'd love to hear his opinion on gold.

01:36:10.840 Uh, what do you, what, what is going to be left?

01:36:14.760 Would you please call gold line and do your own homework?

01:36:18.260 Don't do anything in a panic.

01:36:20.340 Don't do anything in a panic.

01:36:21.740 Don't put everything in anything right now.

01:36:24.640 You don't know.

01:36:26.160 Uh, we've got to start.

01:36:27.200 We have to stop thinking as nowists and start thinking about thinking of things more as futurists.

01:36:34.960 What are the opportunities that are ahead of us?

01:36:38.240 How can we reimagine things?

01:36:40.600 Uh, and what right now is happening is not as important as what's coming in the future.

01:36:46.980 Um, please do your homework.

01:36:49.260 Call gold line.

01:36:50.160 Now, right now they have all of the, um, all of the, uh, product that you might need.

01:36:56.720 There's a shortage of gold in some places they can ship today.

01:37:00.860 They have it physical gold, one, eight, six, six gold line, one, eight, six, six gold line

01:37:06.500 or gold line.com.

01:37:07.900 We break for 10 seconds and back to Steven Moore.

01:37:10.220 So Steven, I, I look at what is being talked about in Washington, D.C.

01:37:34.180 Um, I'm worried that we're already starting down the road of modern monetary theory.

01:37:39.680 Um, and that just leads to the loss of freedom, the loss of our country.

01:37:46.260 If it's not that, how do we, how do we just print all of this stuff?

01:37:52.020 I, and they announced yesterday, the fed announced yesterday, they're buying the federal, uh, or

01:37:57.480 the treasuries back from central banks all around the world and printing cash for them

01:38:02.980 too.

01:38:04.420 How do we, how, how it's, if we've never seen anything like this before, I mean, the most

01:38:11.500 amazing thing is the fed is doing this.

01:38:13.500 They're printing trillions, trillions of dollars.

01:38:15.560 And yet here's the mystery to me, Glenn, people are buying 10, 30 year treasury bills

01:38:21.480 at 1.3% industry.

01:38:23.000 That's insane.

01:38:24.160 That's a stupid.

01:38:24.920 No, I heard, wait, wait, wait, I heard the only buyer was the fed.

01:38:28.520 I heard the only buyer was the fed for the 30 year treasuries.

01:38:31.860 Yeah, but you know, the fed can't, long-term interest rates in the economy are not dictated

01:38:38.200 by the fed.

01:38:39.080 I mean, the fed, if you would, you would think you'd start to see this in rising prices and

01:38:43.880 low, longer, uh, you know, higher long-term interest rates and you're not.

01:38:48.240 And it's, I can't even get my head around this.

01:38:52.820 I mean, it is, it is a bizarre world we're living in and, you know, think we are saved

01:38:57.800 in part by the fact that we do have these long-term rates so low.

01:39:00.880 I mean, I've, I've been advising the treasury to buy, to, you know, to, to refinance all

01:39:05.640 the national debt at, you know, 1.3% interest rates.

01:39:08.860 And, and, uh, because, you know, does anybody in the right mind think for the next 30 years,

01:39:14.380 the inflation rate in the United States can be less than 1.3%?

01:39:17.880 No, no.

01:39:20.120 I mean, if we could, if, is Donald Trump thinking about things like that, for instance, I was

01:39:24.580 glad to hear him say, we're buying all this petroleum for our reserves.

01:39:28.020 Now's the time to just stock up on everything.

01:39:31.140 Cause it's so cheap.

01:39:32.560 Are, are they thinking about buying our debt and refinancing all of our debt at a lower

01:39:39.200 interest rate?

01:39:40.900 Well, uh, you know, I had a piece in the wall street journal about that about two months

01:39:44.220 ago, and I think that it's, it's, it's under serious consideration if we do this infrastructure

01:39:48.980 bill that Trump is talking about.

01:39:50.460 And, you know, what I would do is suspend the payroll tax for every worker and employee

01:39:54.440 employer in this country for the next nine months.

01:39:57.660 Thank you for that.

01:40:02.300 That is, you're exactly right.

01:40:03.760 Thank you for that.

01:40:04.620 Is there a chance he's going to do that?

01:40:07.260 Yeah, he wants to, but you know, the, uh, here's a problem.

01:40:10.980 I mean, Nancy Pelosi really using, using this as a, as an excuse to, to do the green new

01:40:17.020 deal and the Bernie Sanders agenda.

01:40:18.540 So that their ideas are all would actually make the economy worse, not better.

01:40:23.040 And that, that's a real handicap Trump has.

01:40:27.660 But, but he can, but he can fight that.

01:40:30.660 I mean, I think the American people are with him and they were really disgusted by Nancy

01:40:36.380 Pelosi and Chuck Schumer on that last attempt.

01:40:39.160 So this is exactly what I've advised, uh, president Trump to do.

01:40:43.660 Uh, you know, I was on the phone earlier today with some of the white house officials and

01:40:47.420 I said, look, Trump has to do now what great leaders have done, whether it's FDR or, you

01:40:52.160 know, uh, Reagan or Abraham Lincoln, you know, to go above the head of Congress, to go straight

01:40:59.260 to the American people and say, this is what we need to do.

01:41:02.440 So the man, yes.

01:41:04.180 Okay.

01:41:04.800 That's this bill.

01:41:06.700 Okay.

01:41:07.240 Hang on just a second.

01:41:08.220 More with Stephen Moore in just a moment.

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01:43:22.040 Welcome to the program.

01:43:23.400 We have Stephen Moore with us.

01:43:24.540 He was just on the phone with White House Economic Advisors trying to work his way through all of this.

01:43:31.600 Stephen, what are we expecting for the unemployment numbers tomorrow?

01:43:40.620 Gosh.

01:43:41.740 You know, they're going to be high.

01:43:43.100 They're going to be rotten.

01:43:44.220 You know, it's amazing because I think Friday we come out with the new unemployment rate numbers.

01:43:50.560 I think Thursday we get the new unemployment insurance claims.

01:43:55.600 They're going to be rotten.

01:43:56.600 Terrible.

01:43:57.120 We're going to see, you know, a million more people signing up for unemployment insurance.

01:44:01.460 I mean, this is just a natural.

01:44:03.200 So you don't think it will be bigger than last week?

01:44:08.960 Yeah, I do think it will.

01:44:10.440 I think we'll go from, we have, what, three million something last week, and I think we could get five million this week.

01:44:17.000 Hard to tell, I mean, how fast people sign up for these benefits.

01:44:20.580 But, you know, I mean, look, it's very simple, folks.

01:44:23.960 Without businesses, you don't have jobs.

01:44:25.800 I don't know why AOC and so forth don't understand that.

01:44:29.380 But, you know, they keep demonizing businesses in that aid pack.

01:44:32.580 Oh, we can't help businesses.

01:44:34.260 I mean, I'm the biggest, I hate corporate welfare and I hate business handouts.

01:44:38.380 But you've got to give some loans to these businesses so they don't go bankrupt so they can be up and running when we get through this.

01:44:46.120 So when you look at the unemployment, new claims at five million maybe, what kind of number is that?

01:44:56.460 We went from the lowest unemployment in 50 years, 3.5 or 6.

01:45:02.200 What are we looking at when that new number comes out this Friday?

01:45:05.960 You know, I almost feel like this is some bad nightmare that I'm going to wake up from.

01:45:11.220 Because it was just a month ago, it seems like 10 years ago, that we had the best jobs report, you know, ever.

01:45:16.460 We had 350,000 jobs in February with counting the revisions from the previous months.

01:45:21.620 We had the lowest unemployment rate in 50 years.

01:45:24.000 We had rising wages.

01:45:25.160 We had the Federal Reserve Bank was saying we're going to 3% to 4%.

01:45:29.060 Now we're just booming and now we hit this wall and it just, it depresses me.

01:45:32.760 I'm sorry I'm so depressed this morning, but I just, I feel so horrible for our country in terms of the, you know, misery that this is going to cause people.

01:45:41.100 And I just want to get it over with.

01:45:43.360 I want to get us up and running again because, you know, people, it's horrible.

01:45:47.480 When, you know, I'm a, I know you run a business.

01:45:51.160 I'm on the board of a business.

01:45:52.700 We had about 30 employees and we had to lay them all off this week, Glenn.

01:45:56.640 And that's just a heartbreaking thing to have to do, but we don't have any money.

01:45:59.760 How can we pay people if we don't have any revenue?

01:46:01.580 So, Stephen, is there, is there a point to where if we could print enough masks, you know, make enough masks, get everybody, you know, to wear them, wear gloves, you know, practice safely.

01:46:22.660 Is there a chance in the next four weeks that we could go back to work and we would see the engine just flame up?

01:46:30.960 Because I think there'd be a lot of people that would be, you know, there's a lot of pent up spending and creativity and everything else.

01:46:39.280 When does that, when does that flame kind of, do you worry, go out and we're at a point of no return?

01:46:46.620 Yeah, that is my worry where, you know, you get this cascading effect where, you know, once a business goes bankrupt and has to sell their assets, but a good business doesn't exist anymore.

01:46:56.840 It can't, it can't resurrect itself.

01:46:59.400 And so, you know, that's happening.

01:47:01.440 So that's why I keep telling the White House every week that you, you know, that you keep the economy shut down.

01:47:08.040 This is not like a fine-tuned engine where you can just click the ignition, it starts up again.

01:47:12.860 So it's a hard question to answer.

01:47:16.620 Look, I have nothing but respect for the resilience of the American people, the American workers, and especially our great entrepreneurs.

01:47:23.320 We are going to get out of this.

01:47:24.700 And hopefully, Glenn, you know, six months from now when you and I are talking, we're only talking about coronavirus.

01:47:30.240 But these are tough times.

01:47:31.740 And all I'm saying is every day that goes by with this shutdown, it gets harder to start it up again.

01:47:37.360 So, Stephen, the frightening thing for me is, you know, FedEx is going to be fine.

01:47:47.740 Amazon is doing great.

01:47:49.680 All of these big, huge businesses are doing fine.

01:47:53.140 But anyone with brick and mortar, anyone who is on a small level, are they going to – is there anything that is, you know, coming for real significant relief for like that?

01:48:09.600 Even that woman who owns those apartment buildings, she's not rich, but I can guarantee you she's not going to be eligible for the $1,200 check.

01:48:19.480 And who's helping her?

01:48:21.760 Who's helping the people who are trying to make the basic payment on their building, on their equipment, and just can't do it until the engines turned on again?

01:48:34.820 Because they didn't turn it off.

01:48:36.200 The United States government told them to turn it off.

01:48:41.340 Nobody.

01:48:42.400 Nobody's helping those people right now.

01:48:44.460 And they're facing real, you know, hardship.

01:48:47.160 And, you know, this woman I talked to said, well, she thinks she can get through the next few months.

01:48:51.780 You know, but what if people don't start paying their rent?

01:48:54.160 You know, it's one thing for if they don't pay their merchant rent, maybe not their April month rent, and maybe even not their May rent.

01:49:01.340 But then you go past that, there's no revenues.

01:49:03.000 Again, this is the oxygen supply of any business.

01:49:06.900 So, you know, I do think we can get this thing going again.

01:49:10.800 And we've got a great leader of Trump on the economy.

01:49:13.660 I'll give you one example, one of the things I'm in favor of.

01:49:16.100 I mentioned the payroll tax suspension for the rest of the year.

01:49:18.320 How about this?

01:49:19.220 Why don't we put a suspension, a blanket immunity from lawsuits for every business in America for the next year so that when they put people back to work?

01:49:27.700 Because I've talked to employers saying, I'm afraid to bring our, I want to bring my employees back to work, but I'm afraid of lawsuits if they get sick.

01:49:34.520 So why don't we have a blanket immunity so that, you know, let's say you employ me, Glenn, and I assign the document that says, I'm willing to go back, and you say I'm willing to hire you, but there's no lawsuits, you know, in case I do get sick.

01:49:45.500 And that way you'll encourage, we want to get, and look, the American people want to get back to work.

01:49:50.880 We're all going stir-crazy.

01:49:52.540 Right.

01:49:53.580 Right.

01:49:55.700 The $2 trillion in infrastructure bill, phase four of this, Donald Trump is saying, he's saying, you know, the interest rates are at zero, so now is the time to borrow.

01:50:07.880 And so we're going to, we're going to borrow $2 trillion.

01:50:12.200 I think that number is kind of going to go up, but that's a stunning, stunning number to come out with to start the negotiations with Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer.

01:50:23.280 Is, is that because the president is seeing the future and knows that we, he needs to get ahead of this because the news is going to be shocking.

01:50:37.880 Uh, I don't, I don't know his motivation.

01:50:41.240 Uh, I, I, I, my, you know, I worked for the Trump during the campaign.

01:50:44.340 I've worked with him, uh, you know, as an informal advisor and he, I find when it comes to the economy, he, not always, but most of the time makes very wise decisions.

01:50:55.180 Uh, you know, look, the problem with this infrastructure thing, and there's something to what Trump is saying is it's if the people are going to lend us money for free, now's not a bad time for the government to be borrowing.

01:51:03.740 Although we've been doing a hell of a lot of it already.

01:51:06.060 Uh, but you know, the problem with this issue of infrastructure is when you and I say infrastructure and the left says infrastructure, we're talking completely past each other.

01:51:14.540 So what I want to see in this country, yeah, we should fix the roads.

01:51:17.860 We should fix our highways.

01:51:19.040 We should modernize our airports and our ports.

01:51:21.460 And we need pipelines in this country so we can get all the oil and gas to the markets that we need to.

01:51:26.580 So we could be exporting this stuff at a faster pace.

01:51:29.080 That's not what the left is talking about.

01:51:30.800 They want energy subsidies, they want public transit projects, they want, uh, you know, things of that nature that don't really add much.

01:51:38.700 And they, of course, the union wages for all of these, you know, jobs that require, you know, 30, 40% higher costs of the projects.

01:51:46.020 So, uh, you know, I, I worry that this becomes, you know, uh, pardon the pun, but a railway train of spending that doesn't really accomplish much.

01:51:57.700 Steven.

01:51:58.860 Um, are you in Texas?

01:52:00.300 Are you in Texas?

01:52:01.660 I am in Texas.

01:52:03.560 So I'll give you an example.

01:52:05.120 So in Texas, you build your cost of building a mile of road.

01:52:09.380 It's about one half the cost of what it is in California and New York.

01:52:13.440 Think about that.

01:52:14.440 Right.

01:52:15.280 You know, you know why?

01:52:16.600 Because you're efficient.

01:52:17.860 You don't have all these crazy, you know, union work rules, regulations, so on.

01:52:22.500 So if we're going to build the infrastructure, let's do it the way Texas does and not the way New York does it.

01:52:27.500 Correct.

01:52:28.320 Correct.

01:52:29.720 Let me ask you while we're on Texas, the oil situation.

01:52:33.120 Is it possible for the president to tell refineries, no more foreign oil for the next 60 days, just to keep our energy independence?

01:52:44.640 Is there thought about that?

01:52:45.940 Well, I'm afraid these oil companies and the shale and everything else, they're just, they're not coming back.

01:52:51.180 We're going to set ourselves back 50 years.

01:52:56.000 Gosh, this is the toughest question you could ask me.

01:52:58.400 I've been, this is keeping me up at night too, about what do we do?

01:53:01.040 And some of my best friends in the world, my friend Harold Hamm in Oklahoma City, who really was the kind of inventor of the oil fracking process and the horizontal drilling and, you know, the Bakken shale there that became one of the biggest oil fields in the world.

01:53:16.860 And they're just shutting, he said it, we're shutting just about everything down.

01:53:19.840 And you're there in Texas, you're seeing it.

01:53:22.080 And, you know, the price is as low as it's been in 40 years.

01:53:26.000 And, you know, we may see an oil price go below $15 a barrel, which would be, you know, then you're talking about every, virtually every well in America closing down.

01:53:39.080 First of all, if we're going to do something like that to keep out the foreign oil, then what we ought to do is not just basically have a $25 barrel import fee, right?

01:53:49.240 Even though we could use that money to pay for the infrastructure.

01:53:51.520 So, yeah, you know, if the Saudis and the Russians want to keep cutting the price to cut off, you know, to cut off the knees of our producers, let's slap them with a huge import fee.

01:54:01.240 And why not use that money to help people here?

01:54:04.400 And by the way, that would raise the price for our domestic producers.

01:54:07.000 Right. I would just hate to see us lose our energy independence.

01:54:13.580 That, to me, is, that was a huge accomplishment.

01:54:17.220 And not even foreseeable when we were talking, you know, under Barack Obama.

01:54:23.640 They had done everything they could to destroy it.

01:54:26.120 And I'd like to see that continue.

01:54:28.420 I'm with you.

01:54:28.820 I'm with you.

01:54:29.420 I mean, this was one of the great advances of our decades was the fact that we were the number one oil gas producer in the world.

01:54:35.600 So, we've got to keep it up and running.

01:54:39.500 Thank you so much, Stephen.

01:54:40.540 We'll talk again.

01:54:42.180 God bless.

01:54:43.040 You bet.

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The Glenn Beck Program - April 01, 2020

A Tough Two Weeks Ahead ｜ Guest： Stephen Moore ｜ 4⧸1⧸20

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