The Glenn Beck Program - A World Without Police ｜ Guests： Sen. Tom Cotton & Andrew McCarthy ｜ 6⧸9⧸20

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00:01:03.600 What you're about to hear is the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

00:01:26.600 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:01:34.760 Hello, America, and welcome to the program.

00:01:37.020 What a great show for you today.

00:01:38.480 I'm so excited.

00:01:39.640 We have the wheel of termination that is coming, and we're going to spin it a little later on.

00:01:44.800 We're going to find out who needs to be terminated, who needs to be shunned, who needs to be driven

00:01:48.180 out because they're a witch without any trial or anything else.

00:01:53.320 Well, I mean, we might put them on a stick and then dunk them underwater to see if they

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00:01:57.940 And if they do, we know we have to kill them.

00:02:00.240 But the cancer culture is just it's really just starting to get great.

00:02:05.320 Black police officers have been fired without investigation for using nonlethal tasers during

00:02:10.640 a protest.

00:02:11.860 Nurse has been fired for calling looters thugs on Facebook.

00:02:15.320 Glad we got her out of there. 0.99

00:02:16.720 Catholic high school teacher fired for denouncing the narrative.

00:02:20.360 Southern Baptist has been fired after getting dragged online for citing the Bible.

00:02:25.860 Man fired for posting video of citizens protecting the businesses.

00:02:30.940 Actor has been fired for tweets that existed when he was hired.

00:02:34.040 An elementary school teacher forced to resign for writing about protest on Facebook.

00:02:38.920 Another Catholic high school teacher has been fired for post about race.

00:02:42.080 And the Bon Appetit editor has been forced out for a photo they just found of him in 2013

00:02:48.620 dressed as a Puerto Rican stereotype.

00:02:51.740 Oh, man.

00:02:53.480 Well, we got those done yesterday.

00:02:55.800 Who can we terminate today?

00:02:58.100 Oh, and we need to look to our leaders because they know everything about dressing up as a stereotype

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00:03:09.200 Here we go to Nancy Pelosi and the kneeling yesterday in one minute.

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00:04:38.620 Minnesota is shutting down the police force.

00:04:41.140 That is so that is so great.

00:04:43.900 That's you know, they don't know exactly what they're going to do yet, but this is fantastic.

00:04:49.300 What a great move forward.

00:04:51.260 Seattle police sources now confirm that preparations are underway to abandon the East Precinct.

00:04:58.400 You know, they're taking items of value out guns.

00:05:01.480 They're also shredding documents of anything that they have in there.

00:05:05.300 They they say they're not going to give it up, but they're not they're not going to just hand it over.

00:05:11.280 But they're moving the trucks in to get everything out of there.

00:05:15.220 So in case they have to.

00:05:18.300 Meanwhile, a Black Lives Matter leader in New York City says they are now training and being trained by former members of special forces.

00:05:28.100 And they are now ready to mobilize a paramilitary force to stop police brutality on the streets.

00:05:36.000 That is fantastic.

00:05:38.200 Finally, some justice.

00:05:40.420 We get some Black Panthers, Black Lives Matter guys on the streets with guns. 1.00

00:05:47.020 Oh, it's going to be fixed.

00:05:50.560 I'm so excited about this.

00:05:53.540 You know, Stu, is it just me or is there a part of you that says, I'm going to get a bowl of popcorn and just watch?

00:06:04.180 Oh, it would be fascinating to take in.

00:06:07.660 I could tell you this.

00:06:08.780 There wouldn't be another minute.

00:06:11.240 I would show up on the job if I was a Minneapolis police officer.

00:06:14.820 I wouldn't even can I tell you something up and that's because I'm a terrible I had my until I had my family out.

00:06:22.540 I would show I would show up for work.

00:06:24.240 But then I mean, I have to tell you, I don't know why.

00:06:27.900 And tomorrow, I think I want to do a show just with police officers, just all police officers.

00:06:32.340 I want to hear from you.

00:06:33.660 That'll be tomorrow.

00:06:34.840 We're trying to get some leadership on from the police departments around.

00:06:38.620 So if if you have police unions or anybody else that you think we should talk to, you let us know, tweet us.

00:06:45.000 But I've been thinking about there's no way I would show up for any of this stuff.

00:06:50.880 I mean, like, oh, you don't like it.

00:06:52.660 And I would do everything I could to walk out and mass. 0.96

00:06:55.640 I'd be like, OK, all right.

00:06:56.940 You know what?

00:06:57.820 You don't want us.

00:06:59.080 You want to defund us.

00:07:00.260 We're all getting fired anyway, guys.

00:07:02.160 We're going on strike.

00:07:03.140 We're leaving.

00:07:04.080 We don't need this.

00:07:05.060 And I would just leave.

00:07:08.680 Let's go ahead.

00:07:09.740 Show show people what it's like without police officers.

00:07:12.340 It's insanity.

00:07:13.920 It's insanity.

00:07:14.960 Yeah, it really, really is.

00:07:17.360 And I keep thinking to myself, what do they what do they want to happen here?

00:07:20.660 Are they arguing for a well-regulated militia?

00:07:25.080 Is that what they're arguing for?

00:07:27.220 That's basically what they're doing.

00:07:28.540 Because it would be interesting.

00:07:29.720 Black lives. 0.70

00:07:30.340 You could actually theoretically attempt this, right?

00:07:33.020 If you had a Second Amendment that you stood behind.

00:07:36.320 But now they've taken the guns away and now the police away from the people most likely

00:07:43.100 to be murdered in cities.

00:07:45.300 The ones they're sitting here complaining about it.

00:07:47.620 And then they're taking away everybody's ability to defend themselves or have someone

00:07:52.440 else defend them.

00:07:53.420 So now they're in this position with no possibility of fighting back against a criminal element.

00:08:00.720 How does that work out?

00:08:02.080 Not well.

00:08:02.480 Hmm.

00:08:03.600 Hmm.

00:08:04.180 Hmm.

00:08:04.740 Hmm.

00:08:05.720 Well, you know, I we've done some investigation and we've done some work yesterday on, you

00:08:14.260 know, on the events of of the weekend and events of the day.

00:08:17.100 And and I want you to know 2020 is the year of who the know who the hell knows where this

00:08:23.440 all started or where it's going.

00:08:24.840 But sure looks like it's out of hand, which is which is kind of harder to deal with.

00:08:31.520 The New York Times opinion section, which for some reason has completely imploded now.

00:08:38.080 And you're not getting any you're not getting any perspective.

00:08:42.160 I listen.

00:08:42.680 Did you listen to the New York Times daily today?

00:08:44.980 No, no.

00:08:45.800 It was it was.

00:08:47.700 You have to.

00:08:48.660 It's fun.

00:08:49.860 It's fun.

00:08:51.480 I'm listening to it.

00:08:52.500 I'm like, these people are all insane.

00:08:54.720 They're insane.

00:08:57.160 You know, they're talking about defunding the police.

00:08:59.220 And what's what's next?

00:09:00.300 And they're talking about it as if it's logical.

00:09:03.940 Has this been tried anywhere?

00:09:05.480 Have you done this anywhere?

00:09:06.560 We're going to just try this out on major U.S. cities.

00:09:09.080 Doesn't sound like a good idea, but whatever.

00:09:11.440 So the New York Times, they've they've just gone off the rails.

00:09:17.020 The the sane voices at the New York Times is the renegade centrist Barry Weiss, who said

00:09:24.680 this on Twitter about the drama inside the New York Times, the civil war inside the New

00:09:29.660 York Times, between the mostly young wokes and the mostly 40 plus liberals, is the same 0.85

00:09:35.140 one raging inside other publications and companies across the country.

00:09:38.680 The dynamic is always the same.

00:09:40.420 Hang on just a second.

00:09:41.180 So the the the 20 some wokes and the 40 plus liberals, where the conservative.

00:09:47.080 Oh, I forgot I was talking about the New York Times anyway.

00:09:49.780 So they're in civil war now.

00:09:51.340 So what caused this rupture?

00:09:53.940 Well, it was an it was a op ed piece in the New York Times.

00:09:57.360 You know, was the was it the op ed that was titled My New Vagina Won't Make Me Happy?

00:10:04.840 No, no.

00:10:05.960 Or how about pedophilia is a disorder, not a crime?

00:10:11.960 Or this one about a transgenderism at airports in which the author accuses the TB TSA of transphobia.

00:10:19.200 Or was it the op ed that wants to know why is Europe so Islamophobic or any of the, you

00:10:27.580 know, radical op eds about gun control?

00:10:29.920 Like this is one of my favorites.

00:10:31.720 The iconic man with a gun is a white man.

00:10:36.300 I like that one because it takes gun control and it links guns to racism, which I always

00:10:43.120 love.

00:10:43.500 But it's not my favorite.

00:10:45.600 My favorite may be the glowing birthday letter to Karl Marx that the New York Times put out

00:10:51.620 on their op ed page.

00:10:53.480 So it wasn't any of those, you know, Nicole Hannah Jones, perhaps the best known as the

00:11:00.000 Spike Lee of journalism, whose special attention to reinventing American history stormed Twitter

00:11:07.540 to say, I'll probably get in trouble for this, but to not say something would be immoral.

00:11:13.860 As a black woman, as a journalist, as an American, I'm deeply ashamed that we ran this op ed.

00:11:19.920 Oh, which one was it?

00:11:21.140 By the way, Nicole Hannah Jones, she won the Pulitzer Prize for the 1619 Project.

00:11:26.860 And I have to tell you, if I had known all you had to do was get it to get a Pulitzer

00:11:31.800 Prize was to write, you know, Black Panther as a racist historic account of America.

00:11:38.700 And I would have lied my way to journalistic privilege years ago.

00:11:43.360 Who knew it was that easy?

00:11:45.200 Also, Jasmine Hughes, the author of such riveting stories as Eight Forgettable Things You Can Learn

00:11:53.160 from Cardi B at Lunch, or White People Are Co-opting Black People's Jokes About White People.

00:12:01.800 Well, yesterday, Jasmine said, as if it weren't already hard enough to be a black employee

00:12:07.600 of the New York Times.

00:12:09.820 I know, I can hear the, ooh, listen, shh, shh, can you hear it?

00:12:15.200 Yes, I can hear the cracks of the whips from the editors of the New York Times on the backs

00:12:22.100 of all of their employees.

00:12:23.880 It's, well, all of their black employees. 0.97

00:12:26.180 I didn't mean to assume that they would whip their white employees.

00:12:30.520 What a sweatshop, slave shop, and racist place that is. 1.00

00:12:36.260 Anyway, she's thrown down on Twitter, and I'm not going to, I'm just not even going to,

00:12:43.140 because it kind of makes you gag.

00:12:44.440 It does, a little bit when you're, then, of course, we have Sarah Zhang, the editor for

00:12:50.580 the opinion section.

00:12:52.520 She's got wonderful racist tweets.

00:12:55.120 She was, she was very upset that they ran this New York Times op-ed.

00:13:02.340 New York Times writer Kyle Buchanan tweeted, running this op-ed puts blacks at the New York

00:13:08.960 Times staff in danger, and it's dumb.

00:13:13.880 Wow.

00:13:14.800 Actually, he used an F word, too, but I can't pronounce it, because it seems pretty intellectual

00:13:20.160 when he uses it.

00:13:21.600 So what is the article?

00:13:23.480 We told you about it yesterday.

00:13:25.660 Was it the article?

00:13:27.120 Can my children be friends with white people? 1.00

00:13:31.080 No, that was not racist.

00:13:33.520 Or Mary Poppins and a nanny's shameful flirting with blackface, which blasts fictional characters 0.99

00:13:40.820 about blackface, but don't have a single word about Justin Trudeau's public blackface fetish.

00:13:46.660 Could it be, I shouldn't have to tell you this is racist, a guide on discerning racist microaggressions?

00:13:57.620 Or social distancing is a privilege in which the author blames white people for the fact

00:14:02.920 that COVID-19 is disproportionately fatal to blacks?

00:14:07.140 Or the New York Times op-ed, and the Oscar goes to white people?

00:14:13.620 Or this one from the editorial board itself.

00:14:15.860 Why does the U.S. military celebrate white supremacy, which actually tries to argue that

00:14:21.980 the military celebrates white supremacy?

00:14:25.360 Or this one about prejudicial car loans, new cars, old racism.

00:14:34.400 Wow.

00:14:35.480 This one, racism is real, and Trump helps show it.

00:14:39.800 Or maybe this one, guns and racism about white supremacy in the gun lobby.

00:14:44.900 Or this one, confederate flags and institutional racism.

00:14:49.320 With a new creative definition of racism, let me quote, furthermore, institutional racism

00:14:55.900 doesn't require the enlisting of individual racists.

00:14:59.300 The machine does the discriminating.

00:15:01.900 It provides a remove, a space between the unpleasantness of racial discrimination and, indeed, hatred and the ultimate, undeniable,

00:15:13.420 and, for some, desirable outcome of structural oppression.

00:15:17.600 Wow.

00:15:18.120 So, which one was so dangerous and so crazy that they couldn't print, that they had to apologize for, get rid of one of their editors?

00:15:33.320 Well, our next guest is going to be talking about, and I dare I even say it, I could be on the wheel of termination today.

00:15:42.760 Today could be my last show.

00:15:46.280 Oh, please do me a favor.

00:15:48.960 The New York Times, it was actually not about race, what they did.

00:15:55.400 It was an op-ed penned by Senator Tom Cotton.

00:16:01.380 Not about race.

00:16:03.440 Stu, what is the stereotypical thing people, slaves, picked in slave days?

00:16:12.760 Oh, my gosh.

00:16:13.580 It's his last name.

00:16:15.140 His last name.

00:16:17.300 Is that crazy?

00:16:19.560 I mean, how do you not see that one?

00:16:22.800 Anyway, he wrote the op-ed, Send in the Troops.

00:16:27.240 Senator Cotton wrote, not surprisingly, public opinion is on the side of law enforcement and law and order, not insurrectionalists.

00:16:36.380 According to a recent poll, 58% of registered voters, including nearly half of Democrats, 37% of African Americans, would support cities calling in the military to address the protests and demonstrations that are in response to the death of George Floyd.

00:16:50.140 That opinion may not appear often in chic salons, but widespread support for this fact.

00:16:56.060 Nonetheless, the American people are not blind to injustices in our society, but they know the basic responsibility of government is to maintain public order and safety.

00:17:05.280 Oh, the New York Times had to come out and immediately apologize.

00:17:10.300 The editor's note was, I think, as long as the editorial, it didn't really say much, but I just want to give you highlights of it.

00:17:17.540 After publication, this essay met strong criticism from many readers and many Times colleagues, prompting editors to review the piece and editing process.

00:17:27.280 Based on our review, we've concluded that the essay fell short of our standards and should not have been published.

00:17:33.400 Beyond the factual questions that were in there, the tone of the essay in places was needlessly harsh and falls short of the thoughtful approach that advances useful debate.

00:17:45.420 Oh, OK, so more like the op-ed, my children, my children can be friends with white people.

00:17:54.520 It's actually a question.

00:17:55.900 I don't know if they actually solve that one or my new vagina won't make me happy or the birthday letter to Karl Marx, something more based in reality, truth and not offensive.

00:18:09.440 OK, OK, OK, I think I OK, I think I have it now.

00:18:13.440 Now, besides the Republicans are racist and conservatives are too dumb to tell the truth from lies, the main critique that the New York Times activist journalist had about his article was that op-eds have a duty to truth behind the ideology.

00:18:30.620 Oh, OK.

00:18:33.960 All right.

00:18:34.900 So what about the op-eds that have appeared in the New York Times in response to George Floyd's protests?

00:18:46.180 You know, despite the previous hysteria about people staying indoors because of lockdown measures in America, protest is patriotic.

00:18:53.860 Now, this one was posted by the editorial board on June 2nd as dozens of American cities burned down, you know, just for the hell of it.

00:19:03.020 What did the New York Times have to say about the anti-lockdown protest just a month earlier?

00:19:08.720 The right sends in the quacks by Paul Krugman or this one, the coronavirus and conservative mind,

00:19:15.040 which paints conservatives as unhinged conspiracy theorists who blame COVID-19 on Hillary Clinton, which I hadn't heard and didn't think of.

00:19:23.880 But that'd be kind of fun to noodle today.

00:19:28.140 I could go on and on and on, but I don't need to because Tom Cotton is coming up in just a few minutes.

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00:20:59.760 My name is Hawk Newsome.

00:21:05.580 Newsome.

00:21:06.600 Hawk Newsome.

00:21:08.080 He's the chairman of Black Lives Matter Greater New York.

00:21:11.740 I love to have this guy on.

00:21:14.020 He is very intimidating, apparently.

00:21:16.760 His black rights group is now, according to him, mobilizing its base and aims to develop a highly trained military arm to challenge police brutality head on.

00:21:30.780 Now, he just did an exclusive interview with somebody.

00:21:35.920 I don't even know who.

00:21:36.740 I think the Daily Mail.

00:21:39.160 And they say that Black Lives Movement has marched for years to wake people up to the realities of police brutality and oppression.

00:21:45.560 And he believes that people have finally awoken.

00:21:48.340 And it's our obligation.

00:21:50.000 It's our duty to provide people with a pathway forward.

00:21:53.620 We want liberation.

00:21:54.500 We want the power to determine our own destiny.

00:21:57.580 You don't have that in America, huh?

00:21:59.460 We want freedom from an oppressive government.

00:22:01.640 And we want the immediate end of government-sanctioned murder by the police.

00:22:05.540 And we prepare to stop these government-sanctioned murders by any means necessary.

00:22:10.460 That's why we are preparing and training our people to defend our communities.

00:22:15.540 So, he's about to escalate the battle, which, again, with a mayor like Bill de Blasio, I think you're going to be fine, New York.

00:22:27.400 No, I know.

00:22:28.860 Call me crazy.

00:22:30.220 An uprising.

00:22:31.040 Riots in the street.

00:22:32.620 1968.

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00:24:06.200 I cannot believe we have this guy on just based on his last name, Cotton.

00:24:12.460 What does that make you think of?

00:24:13.820 Anyway, we have Senator Tom Cotton on with us now, who has said just things that should not be said at the New York Times.

00:24:26.380 Things that, well, I think most people agree with.

00:24:31.080 But you can't say those things anymore.

00:24:33.200 Senator, welcome.

00:24:34.580 How are you?

00:24:34.940 Hey, Glenn.

00:24:35.600 Hey, Glenn.

00:24:36.220 Good to be on with you.

00:24:37.040 So, Senator, I have to tell you, the world has gone insane.

00:24:45.060 The left, the media.

00:24:48.540 I heard the New York Times today talking about how having a serious conversation with somebody about, well, so what happens when you get rid of the police in Minnesota?

00:24:58.080 Well, you know, we don't know exactly yet, but we're going to work it out, and it's going to be great.

00:25:01.580 I mean, we're talking about major U.S. cities just saying, I'm done with the police.

00:25:08.280 This is nuts.

00:25:10.460 Glenn, this is what happens when you have a newsroom, like the New York Times apparently does, or a city, like Minneapolis and its mayor, that are run by people who think the real world is a social justice seminar on a college campus.

00:25:24.580 Right.

00:25:25.560 I can tell you what happens.

00:25:26.480 Exactly right.

00:25:27.460 I can tell you what happens when you don't have the police.

00:25:29.640 You have anarchy.

00:25:31.900 I mean, you literally have anarchy because there is no common authority to both enforce the law and be constrained by the law.

00:25:41.340 That's what will happen in Minnesota or in some of these other major cities where the Democratic mayors and city councils are talking about slashing police budgets like in Los Angeles and New York.

00:25:51.240 The police are what stand between civilization and anarchy.

00:25:56.080 And we need police departments that are well-funded, well-resourced, well-trained.

00:26:02.340 Senator, I cannot believe.

00:26:04.800 Wait a minute.

00:26:05.680 I cannot believe we're having this conversation.

00:26:08.300 You don't have to tell me or anybody in this audience.

00:26:10.960 I'm just listening to you saying, you know, police departments are important.

00:26:15.480 Or, of course they are.

00:26:17.520 Of course they are.

00:26:18.860 I just can't believe that we are here at this point.

00:26:23.740 Go ahead.

00:26:25.920 Look, Glenn, at what happened with the New York Times.

00:26:28.580 So, as you said, the New York Times is in total meltdown and has suffered an internal collapse because its senior leaders decided to publish an opinion from a Republican senator that is shared by 58% of the American people.

00:26:45.540 But apparently they view that as beyond the pale in the woke newsroom.

00:26:51.600 Now, I would say that the senior leaders cravenly surrendered to the woke mob at the New York Times.

00:26:58.680 On Wednesday of last week, they published my op-ed.

00:27:01.460 On Thursday, they publicly defended it.

00:27:04.100 On Friday, they renounced it after the mob demanded that.

00:27:08.760 And then on Sunday, the owner of the New York Times fired the editorial page editor.

00:27:13.960 I would say that he surrendered to the woke mob.

00:27:16.320 But let's remember, this guy is a woke child himself.

00:27:20.780 I know.

00:27:23.000 They're eating their own.

00:27:24.500 I mean, Senator, a lot of people are getting very upset right now.

00:27:27.820 A lot of people on the right, they're getting upset and they're like, this is going to stop.

00:27:31.660 I'm actually ready to grab a bowl of popcorn.

00:27:33.980 I'm interested in just watching them just devour themselves.

00:27:38.000 It's phenomenal what is happening.

00:27:40.180 And I don't think that there is, you know, watching Nancy Pelosi do the stunt she did yesterday is hysterical.

00:27:49.840 I mean, hysterical.

00:27:52.180 So, Glenn, the New York Times is making a fool of themselves.

00:27:56.320 From A.G. Saltzberger all the way down to their, you know, young interns who were demanding heads on pikes because their editorial page editor had the audacity to publish an opinion with which they disagreed, although 58% of Americans agreed with it.

00:28:10.780 And people are laughing at them.

00:28:13.980 Reporters from other newspapers, producers from television shows, or even reporters at the New York Times recognize that the New York Times has become a laughingstock and exposed itself for what it is, a far left-wing propaganda outfit.

00:28:31.000 It couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of people.

00:28:33.560 Glenn, look at the replacement of the editorial page editor.

00:28:41.400 Just take a look at her Twitter feed.

00:28:42.940 But in the meantime, look at the note she sent out to her workers just a couple days ago.

00:28:49.820 She said that if you see anything at all, anything that offends you or that concerns you, then just send me a text or email right away.

00:28:57.920 I mean, she is telling grownups, people who should recognize they're not in a college campus, they're not in a social justice seminar, that they get trigger warnings at work.

00:29:07.780 So they're not offended by microaggressions.

00:29:10.580 I mean, this really is the language of campus children brought to the workforce when grownups should be able to say, look, you're not in a social justice seminar anymore.

00:29:19.380 You are in the real world.

00:29:20.340 And when you're confronted with an opinion with which you disagree, the proper answer is to refute it with better arguments in return.

00:29:28.160 It's not to curl up in the fetal position, demand trigger warnings, and say that the bad people that publish this opinion should be fired.

00:29:36.300 And if you don't like it, you can quit.

00:29:39.100 So tell me, they said that one of the problems is they had a real problem with your depiction, which was completely inaccurate, of the role of Antifa in the protests.

00:29:48.400 Tom, Tom, Tom, Tom, Tom.

00:29:52.060 Do you have any evidence at all that Antifa is playing any role in this?

00:29:58.400 Well, I'll just say the attorney general has repeatedly pointed this out.

00:30:02.540 And I don't know many peaceful protesters and demonstrators who take crowbars with them to marches.

00:30:07.840 I don't think stacks of bricks get into the street by themselves, Glenn.

00:30:11.940 Of course, there were agitators and extremists who hijacked and infiltrated, protected First Amendment protests for their own purposes.

00:30:22.880 That was happening the weekend after last.

00:30:24.720 And that's why you saw so much violence on the streets in places like Minneapolis and New York and Washington, D.C.

00:30:29.600 Now, since the president demanded that the National Guard be on the scene in Washington, D.C., employed a lot of the specialized law enforcement units that are present around the seat of our national government,

00:30:41.460 since some Democratic governors like Tim Walton, Minnesota, recognized that he had no choice but to call out the National Guard,

00:30:47.340 that violence diminished significantly over the course of last week to the point where over this past weekend, it was almost all just protests and demonstrations.

00:30:55.980 And that's because those agitators and extremists realized that the authorities were now on to their techniques and that they faced the risk of pushback from the police and ultimately arrest and charges.

00:31:06.840 So I saw an interview with Attorney General Barr, and they asked him,

00:31:11.920 Why haven't you made a single arrest yet of Antifa if you know that they were involved?

00:31:18.140 And he said something pretty shocking, at least to me.

00:31:21.020 He said, because we're tracking their funding, they're very well funded right now.

00:31:27.360 He's not going after the guys on the streets.

00:31:29.640 He's going after the leadership.

00:31:32.000 He's going after the most likely the white anti-capitalist socialists around the world that have tons of money that are funding these things.

00:31:45.820 That's going to be a bombshell if he hits that, because there will be all kinds of connections to people we know.

00:31:55.380 Glenn, that's the right way to approach a radical organization like Antifa, I'll say that.

00:32:02.480 I don't want to get too far into the details of what may or may not be investigated and what techniques our federal government is using.

00:32:10.780 But there's a long history of our federal government trying to identify informants within criminal organizations and conspiracies to roll them up and end up not just getting the put soldiers out on the street, but all the way up to the kingpins and the funders.

00:32:30.100 That was how a U.S. grant took down the original version of the KKK in the 1870s.

00:32:37.740 That's how we took down the mob in the 50s and 60s and 70s, drug gangs in the 80s and 90s, terrorist organizations over the last 20 years.

00:32:47.440 The federal government has a long record of rolling up large organizations through careful investigative work and the use of informants and intelligence.

00:32:56.720 And that's what we should be doing in Antifa right now.

00:32:59.100 So, Senator, if you see how the Soviet Union after World War II flipped Czechoslovakia and Hungary and everything else, they did it without a shot being fired.

00:33:16.660 And it really is the bottom-up, top-down, inside-out thing.

00:33:20.760 You put communists in the government in a deep state, if you will.

00:33:25.520 Then you fund and you support rioters on the streets.

00:33:30.800 The people rise up and say, the government's got to do something.

00:33:34.480 And that deep state-controlled government comes down and you lose your country and you lose your freedom.

00:33:40.400 They did it over and over and over again.

00:33:42.940 And I believe it's exactly what is happening here in the United States.

00:33:46.200 How are we doing on the investigation into the deep state and all of the people that were responsible for the Russia collusion garbage and ratting out and finding these people that are working against freedom in America, in our own government?

00:34:07.300 Well, we're moving forward a little bit more slowly than I would like, Glenn, but it is moving forward.

00:34:13.760 In part, because we lived through two-plus years of the Mueller investigation, even though I think it's now clear that the FBI knew from the earliest days, even before Bob Mueller was appointed as a special counsel,

00:34:25.200 that the Steele dossier was full of garbage, probably full of Russian intelligence disinformation, and that there was no collusion.

00:34:32.560 Whatever efforts Russia undertook on its own, there was no collusion with the Trump campaign.

00:34:39.100 I commend the attorney general and the U.S. attorney in Washington for dropping the charges against Mike Flynn.

00:34:46.040 They shouldn't have been brought to begin with, and that was long overdue.

00:34:49.660 We've seen other reports, for instance, from the inspector general and the Department of Justice about how the senior FBI leaders abused their authority in 2016 and 2017.

00:34:57.280 Of course, John Durham is continuing to investigate the entire origins of the Russia collusion hoax, and I expect that will be announced well before the election.

00:35:09.540 And, of course, Lindsey Graham, the Senate, has begun a series of hearings that will end up calling in some of the central players involved in those decisions,

00:35:17.880 like Jim Comey and Andy McCabe, Peter Strzok, and Lisa Page.

00:35:21.340 Now, nearly all of them MSNBC or CNN contributors.

00:35:24.440 The president's poll numbers, depending on who you look at, and I don't believe them at this point, and I can't imagine America going for a group of people that are supporting what's happening on the streets,

00:35:46.700 but, you know, whatever, America is a different place now, I guess.

00:35:50.020 But this is important for these things to be cleared up before the president leaves office.

00:36:01.780 We would have really dangerous people coming in, and if the American people don't see some arrests and we're not cleaning things up, I worry what's coming next.

00:36:15.220 Well, that's one reason why I'm confident, Glenn, that these investigations will reach their natural conclusion before January or even before the election.

00:36:26.480 The attorney general recognizes that this is a closely divided country when it comes to electoral politics.

00:36:32.100 You know, we had a split decision in 2018 with Democrats winning the House and Republicans winning the Senate.

00:36:37.460 I think this will be a closely contested election as well.

00:36:40.580 It's important, though, that electoral politics, whoever win the election, not get in the way of uncovering the truth about what is perhaps the biggest political scandal in our country's history,

00:36:52.080 which is the Obama administration's efforts to disrupt the peaceful transition of power and use the organs of law enforcement against its political opponents.

00:37:01.600 So one last thing, because you were on the coronavirus early, and there's a lot of people now that look at what's happening with the medical community coming out and saying,

00:37:15.440 well, racism is a much worse disease than coronavirus, so you can go protest.

00:37:20.160 These mayors and these governors that were arresting people that said that people who were protesting the shutdown were irresponsible, going to kill everybody's grandmother.

00:37:31.900 They were anarchists, et cetera, et cetera.

00:37:34.980 Those people are now marching in the streets.

00:37:37.920 The coronavirus experts are really endorsing going ahead and rioting or at least marching in the streets.

00:37:48.100 And I think there's a lot of people that say, wait a minute, we destroyed our economy.

00:37:53.800 For what?

00:37:54.980 Did you people even believe this ever?

00:37:59.480 Well, Glenn, I hope and I pray that we will not see a surge in coronavirus cases and ultimately deaths because of the large scale protests and demonstrations over the last couple of weeks.

00:38:10.960 We'll know in the weeks ahead.

00:38:12.900 And I hope that's not the case.

00:38:13.900 If it's not, then that might give us even more confidence to get the rest of our economy back up and open again.

00:38:20.360 However, I think it's obvious that just de facto the lockdowns are now in effect over.

00:38:26.720 It's going to be very hard for any governor or mayor to tell his or her people, you've got to stay at home.

00:38:32.960 You can't earn a living.

00:38:33.860 You can't open your business.

00:38:35.400 You can't take your kids to a park.

00:38:36.720 You can't go worship in church after they've seen these very same mayors and governors not just permit, but encourage and celebrate protests and demonstrations with people marching in the streets shoulder to shoulder by the thousands.

00:38:50.360 I would also suspect that to the extent those governors and mayors try to enforce those lockdowns against, say, churches holding services, that they're going to face lawsuits, and those lawsuits are apt to be successful.

00:39:03.060 I mean, it can't be the case that we condone First Amendment activity by the thousands in our streets, but we prohibit First Amendment activity by the dozens in our churches.

00:39:13.860 Yep.

00:39:14.080 But Senator Tom Cotton, thanks for being on.

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00:43:24.200 Hello, America.

00:43:25.480 It's another great day in God's country.

00:43:29.180 No, I don't actually mean that.

00:43:31.440 It is a blessing to be alive today because we get to find out who we really are.

00:43:40.040 Are we everything that everybody has always said?

00:43:42.600 Or are we actually the kind of Americans that just get the job done?

00:43:48.560 They don't hate people.

00:43:49.920 And we just keep rocking on.

00:43:52.700 We'll delve into that a bit this hour.

00:43:55.460 I want to share some real facts on what is actually happening on the ground with the police officers because tomorrow I'm just going to do all police officers.

00:44:07.320 I want to hear from you if you are in uniform, if you're going in, if your mayor, your city council is trashing you.

00:44:17.560 I don't know why you still work.

00:44:18.860 I really don't.

00:44:20.480 We're going to do all police officers tomorrow.

00:44:22.880 So we'll lead with the facts today.

00:44:25.140 Also, what the hell is happening over in Europe?

00:44:27.980 Why are people in Europe, in Italy, in England, why are they protesting police brutality here in America?

00:44:38.700 I don't understand that unless it really doesn't have anything to do with that and it has a lot to do with overthrowing capitalism and the Western way of life.

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00:46:20.060 The looting.

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00:46:51.240 Anaya Fulrin Amman is a writer in the UK freelance writer. 0.55

00:46:56.540 She is also somebody who stood in December 2019, the UK general election for the Brexit party in Leeds Northeast.

00:47:07.820 She is speaking out now in the UK, basically asking the same thing many of us are asking.

00:47:13.520 Is this really about racism and police brutality or is there something else going on?

00:47:20.760 She is.

00:47:21.860 She was born in 96.

00:47:23.460 Holy cow. 0.89

00:47:24.680 She was born in 1996 in London.

00:47:27.260 She is of Yoruba heritage.

00:47:29.620 She was raised in a British Nigerian single parent household.

00:47:34.660 Welcome to the program.

00:47:37.060 How are you?

00:47:37.860 Thank you for having me.

00:47:39.000 I'm very, very good.

00:47:39.920 Thank you.

00:47:41.900 So many people call you the the Candace Owens of the UK.

00:47:47.600 I've heard that bandied around.

00:47:50.360 Tell me.

00:47:51.260 Tell me your take on what.

00:47:53.620 I don't know if you take that as a good thing or a bad thing, but we mean it as a good thing.

00:47:58.060 Tell me about what you're feeling positively.

00:48:01.540 Good on what's happening in in Europe.

00:48:05.220 They in the UK, they've just defaced the guy who fought against fascism better than anybody else in the world.

00:48:13.520 Winston Churchill.

00:48:14.220 They just defaced a statue of Abraham Lincoln.

00:48:18.080 What's going on in the UK?

00:48:21.060 Yeah, I mean, first and foremost, I want to say that I think a lot of people for the past kind of few months and even years in particular have been worried about kind of the rise of China and that what implications that has for kind of international politics.

00:48:34.120 But I think that what we've seen in the last week, we can be in no doubt of American cultural hegemony and how kind of American racial culture wars has now been kind of exported globally.

00:48:47.180 Now, you know, I love America.

00:48:48.700 I think it's a fantastic country, but I have actually been surprised to see thousands and thousands of people in Britain and central London putting their hands up, saying, hands up, don't shoot to one of the most demilitarized police forces in the world, which is the British police force.

00:49:06.080 You don't you don't.

00:49:06.720 They don't have guns.

00:49:08.200 How can they shoot?

00:49:09.160 They don't have guns.

00:49:10.940 They don't have guns.

00:49:12.200 So I think what we've seen is a kind of attempt to create this kind of homogenized narrative about what it means to be black in the world, I think.

00:49:21.160 And it's been one that has been essentialized to be one of kind of racism, oppression, victimization, irrespective of the kind of nuances and complexities of specific countries.

00:49:31.860 I think absolutely, you know, racism exists that needs to be combated.

00:49:35.640 But in response to the George Floyd killing for the first time and, you know, I think years, there was unity across the political spectrum, pretty much internationally saying that this was, you know, a wrong thing.

00:49:49.460 And, you know, the man's now been charged and, you know, people can debate about what charge that should be.

00:49:55.540 But at the end of the day, that's on our way to justice.

00:49:58.320 That's a very positive thing.

00:50:00.260 And so what has now transpired to me is something very, very, very different.

00:50:04.700 We are seeing what looks like, to me, a kind of concerted effort to paint Western society at large as this kind of bastion of evil and hate and kind of racism.

00:50:16.320 And I think it's sending a really toxic and demoralizing message to a generation of young people who haven't had it so better in terms of, you know, racial equality, progress.

00:50:27.680 There's much more to be done.

00:50:28.940 But the narrative that is being told is completely divorced from reality.

00:50:33.420 And I think it's got much darker intentions and kind of consequences unless we seriously grapple with what is happening to our culture.

00:50:41.600 Can you tell me what you think, because I agree with you and, you know, everything that you're saying here leads me to the things that we have been investigating for a long time, at least on my program.

00:50:57.040 And that is this concerted effort by a radical leftist group of organizations and people that want to tear down the Western world and capitalism.

00:51:12.860 Do you believe that that's what you're seeing over in the UK as well?

00:51:18.280 No, absolutely.

00:51:19.440 Because, you know, it is something that's not just sparked solely out of the protest.

00:51:24.800 We've seen it in terms of the education system, even in the universities.

00:51:28.660 I think there's a similar thing that's happened in America in terms of these kind of campus free speech wars.

00:51:33.660 We've seen it with the gender debate. 0.99

00:51:35.420 And also in the UK, we saw it up until the election until Brexit, which is essentially overthrowing the democratic system in order to kind of push forward a certain agenda.

00:51:45.300 And I think I don't want to make too many connections, but I do think it's all part of the same underlying ideology that has a deep, bitiful resentment kind of Western society and sees, you know, many of these political upheavals as an opportunity to exploit it, to kind of push forward a very radical left agenda.

00:52:05.260 And I think it's really worrying, I think, at least in the UK, we have a situation where kind of the Conservative Party won the election.

00:52:14.220 And a lot of us thought that that was a positive thing in terms of pushing back against this.

00:52:19.900 But the left, I think, again, it's similar in America, have right now a monopoly on culture.

00:52:25.160 They have very significant sways in terms of the media and in terms of changing that narrative and reclaiming a kind of more positive and realistic representation of the West and kind of speaking to the young people that this picture is not actually the reality is something that is still, you know, there's a lot more work to be done there.

00:52:44.840 So it is really concerning.

00:52:46.320 So I've recently met the founders and the heads of an organization, Turning Point UK, and I've been really excited to see the ideas of freedom start to take root in a younger generation as well.

00:53:12.260 But it's almost like it's a cute little effort overseas because you don't have our Constitution and Bill of Rights.

00:53:20.940 And quite honestly, we don't either right now.

00:53:23.360 But so it's a different look at liberty and it's kind of a hard sell in some ways.

00:53:29.540 How are you seeing the pushback on this globalist, Marxist kind of ideology?

00:53:37.980 Is there a growing pushback on that at all?

00:53:44.360 Well, you know, even in Britain, we don't obviously, as you mentioned, have a written constitution.

00:53:49.440 But we have a really strong and rich tradition of liberty in terms of, you know, John Stuart Mill and kind of the Bill of Rights and the Magna Carta.

00:53:56.920 Right.

00:53:57.140 It's a very rich and kind of amazing tradition there.

00:53:59.460 And I think a lot of that, again, has kind of been brushed to the side and downplayed in this swell of cultural self-loathing, which is really encapsulated many of the left in particular, but a lot in the West.

00:54:11.460 But I think in terms of the pushback, I think it is something that's growing.

00:54:16.000 So I'm part of an organization in the UK called the Free Speech Union.

00:54:19.440 And we've now been really proactive in terms of trying to defend people that are even facing, you know, losing their job and their positions to simple things that they've said.

00:54:28.260 I mean, even recently in the UK, it's quite horrifying.

00:54:31.640 A gentleman, a radio presenter, was kind of is being investigated for criticizing Black Lives Matter.

00:54:39.620 So, you know, it is a really, really serious thing.

00:54:42.300 And obviously, you know, there's a whole situation in terms of the New York Times in America over there.

00:54:46.060 So the pushback is there, but it definitely needs to be much stronger, much more forthright.

00:54:53.400 I mean, if we look at the lockdown, you know, in Britain, I've been quite surprised at how there wasn't that much pushback in terms of the biggest peacetime removal of our liberties.

00:55:04.040 And so I think that a lot of people have felt quite, felt kind of exhausted by the constant barrage of negativity.

00:55:12.360 But I think that what we've seen now, something feels different to me in the UK.

00:55:17.340 You know, statues, as you mentioned, of Winston Churchill being brought down, historic cultural monuments being defamed, and, you know, violence against the police, and all of these really kind of significant things.

00:55:29.260 I think a lot of people are now waking up and saying that we cannot let this go on, or this is really going to spiral into something much, much darker than it already is.

00:55:38.740 So how does the America, how does the United States of America, and be, you know, be honest, I'm not asking for a, you know, a nice fluffy answer here.

00:55:48.760 How does the United States of America look to those in Great Britain who may have looked on us favorably in the past?

00:55:56.940 What do you, what do you, what does the average person think about what's happening over here?

00:56:01.620 I think the average person is, probably sees a lot of parallels, but it depends on the perspective.

00:56:12.820 So I think what I found is that a lot of people that were in favor of Brexit, which was actually obviously the majority of the country in a democratic vote,

00:56:20.140 had a lot of sympathies with Trump, not necessarily in terms of, you know, the particular policies he was advocating,

00:56:27.240 but in terms of what he represented in regards to a kind of figure that is taking on the establishment,

00:56:34.520 taking on these kinds of institutions that have been so entrenched, but not really dealing with the kind of issues that are plaguing so many people.

00:56:43.880 And so I think a lot of people in Britain that supported Brexit have been very sympathetic towards that

00:56:49.240 and do see parallels in terms of the way in which, you know, for example, in America,

00:56:53.920 particularly the kind of radical left weaponized impeachment to try and in some ways, you know, subvert democracy,

00:57:00.360 the way that many people, particularly on the radical left in America, were the most servant in regards to the lockdown and things like that.

00:57:09.020 So I think there are quite similar parallels.

00:57:11.080 But I think similar with here, it really depends on who you speak to.

00:57:16.420 And I think, unfortunately, I think particularly the mainstream media in the UK don't always paint America with the most positive deception.

00:57:24.580 But I think there's a great number of people that do see through it and kind of see that a lot of the time,

00:57:30.380 that the way that the media represent political events in America and also in Britain is not actually the full scope of what is happening.

00:57:38.460 I will tell you that I think we look at Great Britain, many of us look at Great Britain in the same exact way.

00:57:44.720 You know, while we didn't understand all the ins and outs of Brexit, we were with you because it seemed as though you were experiencing the same thing

00:57:53.180 with a government that had just become abusive to the people.

00:57:57.600 It doesn't matter what we say.

00:57:58.980 They just do whatever they want anyway.

00:58:00.880 It's that that that deep state is what is being called over here.

00:58:04.700 And it is it's happening all over the Western world.

00:58:08.180 And it's really got to stop.

00:58:09.560 It's got to stop.

00:58:10.520 You know, and I go ahead.

00:58:15.340 No, I was just going to say, well, there's an election obviously coming up in November and there was in America.

00:58:20.860 And obviously in Britain, there was in December.

00:58:22.660 So I think it's definitely through democracy and through arguments that we need to push back and not full succumb to the kind of tactics of the radical left.

00:58:30.620 So great talking to you.

00:58:34.020 All the best of luck over in London and and stay free.

00:58:38.900 God bless.

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01:00:11.580 From the Standing Rock Ranch.

01:00:27.420 Welcome.

01:00:27.820 This is the Glenn Beck program.

01:00:29.440 I want to share with you just for a second why I said at the beginning of the hour, this is a great time to be alive.

01:00:36.160 I don't want you to be discouraged.

01:00:37.560 I think these I think these people are burning themselves out.

01:00:42.080 I think they know the end is near.

01:00:44.620 I think they know that the Justice Department is on them.

01:00:51.020 They're going to be exposed.

01:00:52.900 They thought that they would be protected by the deep state.

01:00:55.900 And indeed, if we have a change in in president and and Senate, if God forbid, I can't imagine to help me in what world does America vote for people who are are are standing with the protesters in the riots?

01:01:19.460 Help me out on that.

01:01:20.820 I just I can't imagine it.

01:01:23.320 The riots are obviously a further, you know, path.

01:01:28.160 You're down that road a little bit further.

01:01:29.700 I mean, the protesters, I think a lot of people will get on.

01:01:32.440 I mean, you know, the idea of the Black Lives Matter means what their their statement of values means to most people, I think, is is not accurate.

01:01:42.080 Right. Most people say, well, no, I want to be nice to black people, too.

01:01:46.000 Why? Why wouldn't I join these rallies?

01:01:47.860 A lot of that a lot of it is that, of course.

01:01:50.140 But, you know, I think the only world where this happens is, you know, we are looking at an economy that is bouncing back, hopefully a little bit.

01:02:00.080 How much does it bounce back?

01:02:01.120 People generally I think Trump is such a dominant figure in this country that they are going to vote on whether they like Trump or not.

01:02:10.020 Do they think he's doing a good job?

01:02:11.500 Do they think their their their their world is getting better?

01:02:14.820 If, you know, there was there 40 million people who lost their job as far as the coronavirus situation goes.

01:02:20.520 If that's if 30 million of them have their jobs back and we're trending in the right direction, you know, he's got a great chance, you know, but I don't know.

01:02:29.320 I mean, I don't I don't know that they'll make the distinctions.

01:02:31.300 I mean, Biden has come out, by the way, and said, for what it's worth, that he doesn't want to defund the police.

01:02:36.700 So, you know, whatever that means, whether you believe it or not, it doesn't matter.

01:02:40.200 Yeah, whatever.

01:02:41.580 I think Kamala Harris is going to be his vice presidential nominee to such a weird pick in the middle of this, though, on order. 1.00

01:02:48.700 I don't know. Yeah, but that's exactly the problem.

01:02:50.940 Right. Like the left is going crazy.

01:02:53.180 They want to defund the police.

01:02:54.580 One of the big reasons Kamala Harris didn't win the nomination is because she was a prosecutor and they're going to put her on the ticket like that's really going to piss off because you're going to have to have somebody that is going to look tough on crime. 1.00

01:03:07.120 You cannot you they will lose hand over fist if they just placate this stuff and they're all for defunding the cops and everything else.

01:03:15.860 They have to have a tough person.

01:03:18.780 And it's not by nobody.

01:03:19.760 Biden doesn't even know what he's talking about half the time.

01:03:22.000 No, no, no, no to tend to agree with you on that.

01:03:24.420 Yeah.

01:03:24.840 Oh, my gosh.

01:03:25.640 Yesterday.

01:03:26.100 Did you see the deal yesterday where he was reading off of a card in his lap and he just kept repeating it over and over again?

01:03:33.480 Did you see that?

01:03:34.180 I didn't see that.

01:03:34.600 We can find that and play it.

01:03:35.820 It's it's incredible, Stu.

01:03:37.440 The guy has absolutely no idea what he's talking about.

01:03:41.000 But anyway, the reason why I say it's a good time to be alive is in their arrogance.

01:03:46.340 They will destroy themselves.

01:03:48.480 And if Donald Trump is cleaning out the deep state, if that does happen, we're going to we're going to win.

01:03:58.440 We're going to win goodwill triumph over evil.

01:04:02.000 And you just have to stay calm, rational.

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01:05:49.420 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

01:05:59.900 There are a lot of quote unquote facts that are going around.

01:06:04.560 Sarah, do we happen to have any of the audio from the New York Times daily today?

01:06:12.840 Go ahead and play this.

01:06:14.320 Let's see if which cut this is.

01:06:15.600 Go ahead.

01:06:15.900 So, John, what do these concepts defund, dismantle, abolish the police?

01:06:22.700 What exactly do they mean?

01:06:25.440 To defund when activists say that what they mean is taking money away from the police department's budget and redirect it toward other things, whether that be social services agencies, maybe mental health agencies that can do functions that police are often called on to do.

01:06:42.060 But if you fully defund it, you can get to a space where the police department is abolished.

01:06:47.780 And so essentially what that means is that there is no more police department as we know it.

01:06:53.900 You don't call these men and women in blue shirts to come racing to your door with their guns in hand.

01:07:01.200 It means that they have to figure out some other form of providing that public safety.

01:07:05.420 And the police department would not be that form.

01:07:08.020 And where do these concepts come from?

01:07:11.320 Well, at their core, they come from.

01:07:13.380 Stop.

01:07:13.700 I can't take it anymore.

01:07:14.900 Listen, listen to this.

01:07:15.940 I mean, listen to the New York Times taking this seriously, taking something that we have had since the beginning of time, police, and just throwing it out and saying, well, we're going to come up with something different.

01:07:26.580 Well, I'd kind of like to know what, you know, but we could all hope for change.

01:07:32.520 We've done it before.

01:07:33.540 And didn't that work out well for us?

01:07:35.960 The the thing that this is all based on is how bad the cops are and how it's not getting any better.

01:07:44.980 And they are killing kids and killing black people just on the side of the road at a record pace.

01:07:54.200 That's what you have to believe.

01:07:57.480 Raphael Raphael Mangual is with us now.

01:08:00.780 He is a fellow at the Manhattan Institute and contributing editor of the City Journal.

01:08:06.420 He says the toxic narrative about the police is absolutely wrong.

01:08:11.680 Welcome, sir.

01:08:12.380 How are you?

01:08:12.880 I'm doing very well, Brian.

01:08:14.760 How are you?

01:08:16.180 I'm good.

01:08:18.420 I'm going to play devil's advocate and I'm going to bring Stu in for this, too.

01:08:22.140 And we want to we want to push you on the stats because we have heard all of these all of these press reports and all of these people saying how bad it is.

01:08:33.000 So you go ahead and fill our head with these lies.

01:08:37.440 How bad is it out there?

01:08:39.880 Well, you know, it is not anywhere close to what the activists say we're dealing with.

01:08:47.260 And that's that's the most important takeaway here.

01:08:49.860 OK, I think, you know, like any of the other human endeavor, policing is perfect.

01:08:54.980 Right.

01:08:55.160 The police are human.

01:08:55.980 They make mistakes.

01:08:58.020 You know, sometimes those mistakes result in death.

01:09:00.600 And some of those deaths reflect not just negligence, but sometimes even malevolence.

01:09:05.140 Right.

01:09:05.360 There there is such thing as a bad cop.

01:09:07.900 There is such thing as evil that makes its way onto a police force.

01:09:11.380 The question is, it's how big, what is the scope of this problem?

01:09:16.240 And, you know, the reality is, is that it is a problem that is far overblown compared to the rhetoric.

01:09:22.840 I mean, consider just fatal encounters, for example.

01:09:25.440 Right.

01:09:25.880 The Washington Post documented just over one thousand shootings last year and nine hundred ninety two shootings in 2018.

01:09:33.380 So that numbers remain pretty steady that year, police in general across the whole country fired their guns just over three thousand times in 2018.

01:09:43.700 Now, this sounds like a lot.

01:09:44.760 There's multiple shootings a day involving police.

01:09:47.320 But in a country of three hundred and thirty million people with a police force of nearly seven hundred thousand officers in full time roles, not not including reserve officers or part time roles.

01:09:57.840 That is that is that is an incredibly low amount, especially when you consider also that they make more than 10 million arrests in a given year, have almost 100 million police citizen contacts.

01:10:10.220 Right. So when we look at the full scope of the volume of police activity, what we see is the deadly encounters represent an infinitesimally small slice of an exceptionally large pie.

01:10:23.160 Right. At most, if you're looking at 10.3 million arrests, 0.003 percent of arrests result in the use of deadly force.

01:10:33.020 That is that is not evidence of a pandemic of police violence.

01:10:37.140 That is not evidence of a of a police force out of control.

01:10:40.620 And the case does not get any stronger when you look at nonfatal uses of force.

01:10:45.120 Right. One of the one of the best studies I've seen on this is a study that was published in the Journal of Trauma and Acute Care Surgery.

01:10:52.700 It looked at over a million calls for service across three midsize police departments, one in North Carolina, one in Louisiana and one in Arizona.

01:11:00.260 Those calls for service resulted in over one hundred and fourteen thousand arrests.

01:11:04.220 And in less than one percent of all those arrests was physical force used.

01:11:09.260 And in ninety eight percent of the cases in which physical force was used, there was no discernible injury to the suspect whatsoever.

01:11:16.560 There was only one instance in those one hundred and fourteen thousand arrests of a fatal police shooting.

01:11:22.520 Right. Again, that is some subset of that.

01:11:26.200 The sub subset of that reflect error to some subset of that use of force reflect malevolence.

01:11:32.000 Perhaps. But the idea that this is that illegal police force can characterize the institution of policing as opposed to just reflecting the individual actions of what amount to statistically few bad apples.

01:11:47.080 That that is not a claim that can be sustained.

01:11:49.540 OK, so the Washington Post has said protests spread over police shootings.

01:11:56.080 Police promise reforms every year.

01:11:57.900 They still shoot and kill nearly a thousand people.

01:12:01.520 Police since 2015 have shot and killed fifty four hundred people.

01:12:06.460 I mean, your stats are are great.

01:12:09.520 But what about what about the fact that this has been going over for decades and and they're killing blacks at a much higher rate than they're killing whites? 0.62

01:12:22.660 Right. Well, I'm going to I'm going to start at the beginning of that question.

01:12:26.380 Right. One of the big flaws that the Washington Post suffers from in making that.

01:12:31.520 Kind of claims that their own they're basing it on their own data set, which only goes back to 2015.

01:12:36.680 Right. That is not a long period of time.

01:12:39.440 But the fact of the matter is, yes, we have had essentially steady rates of police shootings in 2015.

01:12:44.240 But that does not mean that we have not had any progress on this front.

01:12:47.580 Take, for example, some of the data out of the New York City Police Department in 1971.

01:12:53.200 When that department started to keep track, New York City police fired their their guns eight hundred and ten times.

01:12:59.240 They wounded two hundred and twenty one people and killed ninety three that year in 2016.

01:13:05.340 Those numbers were just that were down to just seventy two, twenty three and nine respectively.

01:13:10.440 That is an enormous amount of progress that may not be captured in that short five year window.

01:13:15.980 Right. One of the one of my biggest pet peeves about this debate is that what the rhetoric has done is it has essentially positioned us to be underwhelmed by even meaningful progress.

01:13:27.780 Because the fact of the matter is, is, again, police are not perfect, but there isn't a whole lot of room for improvement when it comes to deadly force simply because of the fact that it is such a rare occurrence.

01:13:39.380 Now, as for the fact that that black Americans are disproportionately represented in police shooting numbers, that's true. 1.00

01:13:45.480 If you use their basis, if you use the denominator, which is their proportion of the population that they make up.

01:13:52.100 But that to me is the wrong denominator.

01:13:54.260 What we should be looking at are rates of violent crime.

01:13:57.700 And we know, for example, that black Americans, despite constituting just 13 percent of the population, are responsible for more than 50 percent of all murders in the United States. 0.99

01:14:07.800 And when you consider the fact that most of those murders, almost all of them are committed by men, you get a stat that looks more like about 7 percent of the population being responsible for nearly 50 percent of all those homicides.

01:14:20.660 That it's that disproportionality that informs the disproportionate statistics that we see in police shootings and other uses of force.

01:14:28.860 Right. We cannot work around the reality that black men have a homicide commission rate that is about eight times that of their white counterparts.

01:14:38.060 That is going to be reflected in this data. Right. And I would ask any reasonable person to really just reflect on the on the following question, which is that do you honestly believe that police resources should be equally distributed across the United States without regard to crime rates?

01:14:53.620 I don't think any reasonable person would answer that question in the affirmative.

01:14:56.740 And so if you believe that police that police resource deployments should reflect varying rates of violent crime, then it stands to reason that that deployment of resources is going to result in more contacts that police are going to have with black Americans simply by virtue of the racial disparities that we see in crime victimization and commission numbers.

01:15:20.020 Again, on the victimization, everyone likes to focus on enforcement disparities, but on the victimization disparities, a black American is six times more likely to be the victim of a homicide than a white American.

01:15:30.340 No one talks about that disparity. To me, that is one of the most important disparities that our country needs to address.

01:15:36.080 And police have been at the forefront of addressing that disparity for decades on end.

01:15:40.120 And to lose sight of that, I think, really, truly reflects the fever pitch that we've reached in this debate.

01:15:47.220 And I think truly reflects the major flaw in the left's argument on this topic.

01:15:52.280 Rafael, I'm wondering if you could address one thing that is brought up a lot, which is the idea that there's been several studies that have showed that white police officers are equal or, in some cases, less likely to use force against black citizens when it comes to in a comparative way.

01:16:16.140 So the idea that this is sort of fueled by racism, is there anything to prove that out?

01:16:22.620 No, other than the facial disparities that people harp on, right?

01:16:29.420 And that's the thing. Disparities on their own don't show intent.

01:16:34.420 And intent is at the core of a claim of racism, right?

01:16:38.160 And we have, as you mentioned, really fantastic econometric studies that have looked at these questions very deeply.

01:16:44.800 Roland Fryer of Harvard University has done probably the best one.

01:16:49.140 And what he found is that there is no evidence of racial animus driving deadly police force.

01:16:56.120 And that makes sense, because police deadly force is often used in situations that are extremely intense and that unfold within seconds.

01:17:06.600 Police don't have the time to consider someone's race in deciding whether, you know, to fire their weapons.

01:17:13.700 I mean, one example of this is the shooting of Stephon Clark out in Sacramento almost two years ago.

01:17:20.660 This was a case of a guy who was shot holding just a cell phone that was apparently mistaken for a gun.

01:17:26.640 It was pitch black when police encountered him.

01:17:29.140 He took off as soon as they approached him.

01:17:31.640 They chased him into a backyard.

01:17:33.340 And thankfully, the video captures the police's actions in this.

01:17:38.900 You see them run up the driveway, and as they break the threshold of the back of the house and turn into the backyard to chase the suspect, you see that the lead officer stops short, pulls his partner back behind cover, and then they fire their weapons from cover.

01:17:52.800 That is not the action of an officer who is trying to murder someone he knows to be unarmed.

01:17:57.800 That is the action of someone who has clearly made a mistake because of the darkness.

01:18:02.900 And the idea that in those intense moments where someone believed that their life was in danger, they were calculating whether they were going to try and save their own lives based on the race of the suspect really just doesn't have any basis in the data, in the studies that we've seen, or in reality.

01:18:18.140 All right, so I'm going to run out of time.

01:18:21.360 I've only got about a minute left.

01:18:22.920 What about things like, you know, chokeholds and resisting arrest?

01:18:29.020 And, I mean, if he wouldn't have died, police wouldn't – we wouldn't know about this.

01:18:34.360 But the abuse would have still gone on.

01:18:36.660 Are there any stats on any of these things?

01:18:38.780 Because the Washington Post says there's no stats on them.

01:18:42.060 Well, no, that's not entirely true, right?

01:18:44.440 The Bureau of Justice Statistics does do surveys of citizens who have had police encounters.

01:18:53.420 And in those surveys, they ask citizens whether they were, for example, the victims of force that they felt to be excessive.

01:19:00.980 And we see that only about 8% of those citizens who – and this is, you know, encompassing more than 50,000 contacts – only about 8% of citizens express any kind of displeasure with their police interactions.

01:19:13.800 And only a subset of that 8% are based on impressions of excessive force, which, again, have to be taken with a grain of salt because most people are not going to enjoy being on the enforcement end of a police encounter.

01:19:28.060 And oftentimes, you know, their impressions of what's legal and what's not are erroneous.

01:19:33.800 And so, yeah, again, I think that what we saw in the George Floyd video does reflect misconduct.

01:19:40.560 I do think it happens.

01:19:41.700 I don't think police are perfect.

01:19:43.560 But to say that that kind of misconduct characterizes the institution as a whole, I think, is just a cry too far.

01:19:52.800 Raphael Mangual, thank you so much.

01:19:54.620 He's a fellow at the Manhattan Institute, contributing editor for the City Journal.

01:19:58.280 Thanks for the information.

01:20:00.740 On tomorrow's program, if you are a police officer, we want to hear from you from all over the country.

01:20:06.200 And we want to hear from the leadership of the police officers.

01:20:09.280 I don't know how you guys are still going to work every day in some of these cities.

01:20:13.880 But God bless you.

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01:21:47.000 You're listening to Glenn Beck.

01:21:56.560 Hey, there's some good news today from the stock market.

01:21:59.880 The S&P 500 erased its loss for the year as stocks rallied on the reopening optimism.

01:22:06.740 Looks like stock market's going to just rally and rally and rally, which totally makes sense because no companies are having problems.

01:22:15.300 No companies are having to shut stores.

01:22:17.360 We're at complete rest as a nation.

01:22:20.980 You know, the elections are up in the air.

01:22:23.800 You don't know what's coming next.

01:22:26.380 Why wouldn't the stock market just rally?

01:22:29.780 It's insane.

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01:22:34.480 This is completely propped up by the Fed.

01:22:39.440 You know, go ahead.

01:22:41.280 Have a great party and drink the punch.

01:22:45.300 But I warn you, it's going to come down.

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01:22:50.340 This is the Fed propping it up.

01:22:52.800 This is the Glenn Beck program.

01:22:56.700 Hello, America, and welcome to Tuesday.

01:22:59.740 So I have this I have this sneaking suspicion that the killer of George Floyd just might be found not guilty.

01:23:14.080 And here's why.

01:23:15.440 Because the guy who is now leading the prosecution is Keith Ellison.

01:23:22.760 Keith Ellison, we know, is a radical, an absolute radical.

01:23:27.200 You would think that he would do everything he could to make sure this guy goes to jail.

01:23:32.620 But maybe he's maybe he's just convinced of his own superpowers that he can convict all four of these guys in ways that most prosecutors say you shouldn't do that.

01:23:46.780 Maybe he's just overzealous or maybe it is worse than that.

01:23:52.140 I want to talk to Andrew McCarthy.

01:23:54.640 He is a guy that has was former distant assistant U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York.

01:24:01.100 He has led the terrorism prosecution against the blind sheik and 11 others. 1.00

01:24:06.120 He went after those and got convictions for the World Trade Center bombings.

01:24:11.700 He's a guy who's been around a while.

01:24:14.760 Is is this case under control?

01:24:19.600 Are we going to get convictions or are we going to end up with maybe more and worse riots?

01:24:25.640 Oh, I don't know.

01:24:26.640 Right around election time.

01:24:28.740 Andrew McCarthy.

01:24:29.460 He's on with us in one minute.

01:24:33.140 This is the Glenn Beck program.

01:24:38.960 All right.

01:24:39.500 So I keep getting emails from my my stockbroker and they're like, you got to put your money back in the market.

01:24:45.660 It's just going crazy.

01:24:46.800 Look at this.

01:24:47.320 Look at how much money you're losing.

01:24:48.980 But I'm like, I know it's crazy.

01:24:52.980 Hey, can you give me the fundamentals on why the stock market is going up?

01:24:56.820 Well, it's just going up because people have so much confidence.

01:25:00.260 Do they?

01:25:01.040 Because I talk to people every day and the people I'm talking to are like, I don't know if America is going to be here next year.

01:25:08.100 So what is it that I'm missing?

01:25:11.120 Well, you know, these companies are companies and we're always going to have these great things.

01:25:15.740 Really?

01:25:15.960 Because the people protesting are trying to destroy those countries, those companies.

01:25:20.520 Well, you don't understand.

01:25:22.540 Okay.

01:25:23.060 All right.

01:25:23.440 I'm losing lots of money by not being in the stock market.

01:25:27.800 I'm sure I'm losing money from, you know, putting some more additional money up on on the gold platform.

01:25:35.960 I know I think I'm going to be happy.

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01:25:39.560 I think when things really start to collapse, I want to be okay.

01:25:42.920 I'm going to be all right.

01:25:43.840 But, you know, you have to do your own homework because it's crazy what Glenn Beck is doing with the stock market.

01:25:49.280 He's missing out on all of these great, great rallies.

01:25:53.000 I am, aren't I?

01:25:56.280 That may be stupid, but I, you know, I read an article yesterday about how our Fed is now doing exactly what the Weimar Republic did.

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01:26:36.460 Yeah.

01:26:37.400 Who's doing that?

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01:26:55.260 Andy McCarthy, a contributing editor, National Review, senior fellow for the National Review Institute.

01:27:01.060 He has been on with us several times, good friend of the program.

01:27:05.040 Andy, you wrote a great piece for the National Review.

01:27:10.600 The new Floyd murder charges will be tough to prove and may imperil good cops.

01:27:15.820 As I'm reading it, what is happening with the prosecution seems nuts, seems nuts.

01:27:23.840 Yeah, Glenn, thanks so much for having me and calling attention to this.

01:27:30.220 You know, the case is kind of weirdly overcharged and undercharged at this point.

01:27:36.180 And I keep having to kind of police myself because I have the same cynicism about Keith Ellison, as I gather you do.

01:27:46.980 And I need to kind of like try to put that in a box and just look at this in a clinical way rather than freighting it too much with what I think of him.

01:27:57.440 So, for what it's worth, you know, on Chauvin, who's the main guy, of course, I think the second degree charge, the second degree murder charge that he, that Ellison put in,

01:28:12.420 which was sort of designed at least politically to say that they had ratcheted up the charges, is a reach.

01:28:19.160 But it's not an impossible reach.

01:28:22.880 And the thing I think we have to keep in mind is that the way they do their charges, and let's remember now, we have not seen an indictment yet.

01:28:31.800 So far, these guys have only been charged in complaints.

01:28:34.900 So we don't know what the final charges are going to look like.

01:28:37.240 But if they look like this, there'll be three different theories of murder.

01:28:41.940 And just common sense says to me that a jury watching that last indefensible eight minutes is going to convict this guy of something.

01:28:53.880 So, to me, my complaint and my worry about the second degree charge, which is the felony murder theory, under which what he's basically saying is that when the cops first put hands on this guy,

01:29:09.180 and as that whole situation evolved, that was an assault, and Mr. Floyd later died.

01:29:17.140 So that's the felony murder theory.

01:29:19.340 The felony is a third degree assault under Minnesota law.

01:29:22.520 I think from a policy standpoint, that's a really dumb thing to do because it puts cops on the street, good cops, in fear of the idea that if they do the things you have to do in order to do effective policing, like use superior force, not egregious force or excessive force, but superior force against someone who's resisting arrest, you have to now worry that you could be charged with a felony.

01:29:49.100 But that doesn't mean, but that doesn't mean that, you know, juries don't do policy.

01:29:53.000 They do the one case with the one defendant and one victim.

01:29:57.620 I could see the jury convicting on that theory.

01:30:01.480 I think it's more likely they convict on his second theory, which is depraved indifference, because I think that's a good match for what their evidence is.

01:30:10.860 Yeah, I have to tell you, Andy, I think that is where this whole thing meets.

01:30:19.440 When I watched that, it didn't seem like I'm out to murder a guy.

01:30:24.300 It looked like I don't really care.

01:30:27.180 I mean, really, truly depraved indifference is what it appeared to be.

01:30:35.200 Right. That's what I think, Glenn.

01:30:38.080 Now, I know people who practice law in Minnesota who tell me that there's some troublesome case law with that.

01:30:46.340 And I know that that as a prosecutor, you have to worry about that stuff when we for what it's worth.

01:30:52.540 I mean, when we indicted the blind shake a million years ago, there was some bad law in our circuit on attempted bombings and some other stuff that we had to worry about.

01:31:02.580 But we really felt like and I think the prosecutors here should feel like their evidence is so strong in terms of the recklessness and depravity of that.

01:31:12.220 I just cannot see a jury acquitting on that.

01:31:16.920 OK, so that's that's good news, right, because he would go to jail.

01:31:21.640 And but would that be the second is is depraved indifference part of the murder count of of second degree murder?

01:31:31.160 It's third degree murder. And, you know, Glenn, I think people are getting too hung up on, you know, they've watched too many episodes of Dragnet or Hawaii Five-0 or something.

01:31:40.400 You know, if it's not book a murder one that, you know, people are right.

01:31:44.660 People don't think it's serious enough because it doesn't sound serious enough.

01:31:48.440 Murder three is murder. And I think if this guy gets convicted of murder, no one's going to remember that it was third degree murder.

01:31:54.160 Murder. It's a murder. Correct. And sometimes I was just going to say sometimes categorically, you know, you go first, second, third because of seriousness.

01:32:05.140 Sometimes it's just that the conduct is so different. They have to put it in a different section of the statute.

01:32:10.520 It's not necessarily a reflection that it's not as serious as second degree.

01:32:14.280 All right. And how much of a sentence does that usually get? How much how much time would this guy spend behind bars?

01:32:23.460 Up to twenty five years.

01:32:26.140 OK, now the other three degree would be up to 40, just so you know.

01:32:31.180 So that's I mean, that's the difference we're talking about.

01:32:33.200 OK, so the the other three aiding and abetting.

01:32:38.720 And in your article, you talk about how this one you have to run through hoops because they're also charged.

01:32:47.740 Are they not also charged with second degree?

01:32:50.880 They're charged with aiding and abetting both second degree and manslaughter.

01:32:55.960 And I think theoretically, this is where you worry about Ellison being more of a, you know, sort of a radical ideologue than a technical lawyer.

01:33:07.220 Negligence, manslaughter in Minnesota is negligent homicide.

01:33:12.100 And as we all know, negligence means something happens that nobody intended.

01:33:16.500 Right. You're careless in something that you didn't foresee, but you should have.

01:33:21.100 That's terrible. Happens your care. Right.

01:33:23.260 Because it's a risk and a guy dies. Aiding and abetting liability means that the accomplice, who's the aider and a better, has to understand what the principal is trying to accomplish and then join himself and did something active to bring it about.

01:33:38.820 Well, no one tries to accomplish negligence.

01:33:42.740 So I have a problem with the theory of aiding and abetting being matched up with negligence.

01:33:48.660 But I think he would have been fine and he would still be fine when they ultimately indict if he indicts them, not as aiders and abettors, but as principals, because at least the two guys who were holding Floyd down along with Chauvin, they had to know what they were doing was was careless and wrong, if not depraved.

01:34:08.260 And I think you could get you could convict them just as people who committed manslaughter rather than trying to go through the mental hoops of did they understand what Chauvin was trying to accomplish and how did they try to join?

01:34:23.200 You know, I mean, that that kind of mental gymnastics is, I think, overcomplicating, which should be a pretty straightforward question.

01:34:31.340 Yeah. And how do you prove that any of them were trying to accomplish killing this guy?

01:34:39.260 Oh, I think that's a great point, because the evidence that's in the complaint suggests the contrary.

01:34:45.860 You know, these bird brains didn't do what they should have done to stop this from happening.

01:34:50.340 But at least one of them says to Chauvin, you know, don't don't you think we ought to roll this guy over on his shoulder?

01:34:55.120 You know, I'm a little bit worried that he's going to go into, you know, various forms of medical distress.

01:35:01.060 And Chauvin, who's the 19 year veteran and is the senior guy out there, says, no, no, no.

01:35:05.620 That's why we're leaving him on his stomach as he continued to sit on the guy's neck.

01:35:11.900 Right. So so that guy's going to be able to say, I wasn't trying to kill the guy.

01:35:16.100 You know, when you're trying to kill the guy, you think you don't ask, do you think he's doing OK?

01:35:20.280 Do you think we should roll him over?

01:35:21.620 Sure. I don't mean right of it. I just I just, you know, the defense lawyers are going to have a field day with that sort of stuff.

01:35:28.720 But I think if you charge them with this is negligent homicide, the prosecutor's position is, look, you can't continue to sit on the guy's back.

01:35:41.420 With somebody sitting on his neck two minutes after he has no pulse.

01:35:47.360 You know, even if you didn't have the worst of intentions, that's careless.

01:35:50.260 That's manslaughter. That's what we have manslaughter for.

01:35:54.000 And stop worrying. You know, don't don't charge the case in a way where you have to prove what these guys must have thought Chauvin was trying to accomplish.

01:36:03.460 I've been on a jury before, Andrew, and we wanted to send this guy away for a very long time.

01:36:16.020 All of us knew he did it.

01:36:19.100 Most of us knew he did it and just had a feeling that we were going to release this guy out into the wilderness.

01:36:26.520 But we could not agree that the charge was the right charge.

01:36:32.940 And we're like, that's not that's not right.

01:36:35.660 And, you know, we kind of even danced around.

01:36:38.900 Well, shouldn't we just give it to him anyway because he's going to get out and do it?

01:36:42.920 No, no.

01:36:44.260 And it's a very different thing in a jury room if they screw this up and charge them.

01:36:52.740 I don't know if this is unique with jurors, but that's that was my experience.

01:36:57.720 We didn't go in there.

01:36:59.100 We went in there thinking this is a very bad guy, but it doesn't match what they're telling us to do.

01:37:06.720 And they're telling us specifically it's got to be X, Y and Z.

01:37:10.780 Well, that doesn't fit.

01:37:13.260 Yeah, Glenn, that's my experience with the jury system.

01:37:16.160 20 years of being a trial lawyer or all as a prosecutor.

01:37:21.500 Juries are really very as a general matter.

01:37:25.040 You can always find outliers, but they're very conscientious.

01:37:29.660 They follow the evidence closely.

01:37:31.500 They really do do what the courts tell them to do as a general matter, and they don't convict people, even though the evidence can be horrifying if it doesn't match up with the judge tells them has to be proved.

01:37:46.140 So you're you're you're right to be concerned about how this case gets charged.

01:37:51.960 One last question.

01:37:52.600 Is there anything that the feds can do just in case?

01:37:57.060 I mean, I know I'm very, very.

01:38:00.960 You know, I'm just pessimistic when it comes to Keith Ellison, and I don't I don't trust him.

01:38:06.240 And it would be very, very good for a radical to have this just, you know, in the in the last moment slip away and then they walk free.

01:38:15.700 Is there anything that the feds can be doing at the same time?

01:38:19.820 So, God forbid, they screw it up at the state level.

01:38:23.560 It's not a walk away.

01:38:25.860 He's free.

01:38:27.900 Yes, they are conducting a civil rights investigation.

01:38:31.740 Now, that's a that's a tougher proof than a straightforward state murder prosecution, because you have to prove an intent basically to discriminate and to deprive somebody of their constitutional rights and their and their legal rights.

01:38:48.840 So it's a tougher case to prove.

01:38:50.420 But they would get if they if they think they can make that, they can get a second bite at the apple, because we have what's known as the dual sovereignty doctrine.

01:39:00.340 It's an exception to double jeopardy.

01:39:01.980 And it basically means the feds in the state are different sovereigns.

01:39:05.920 So just because you get acquitted in the state, the state can't prosecute you again, but the feds could.

01:39:12.360 OK, Andrew, thank you so much.

01:39:14.120 I appreciate Andrew McCarthy contributing under to the National Review.

01:39:17.020 I find it really interesting that what I'm worried about is exactly what RFK was worried about, just in a different way.

01:39:26.560 He was worried about these cases going down and the the prosecutors botching the case and the jury just, you know, doing what they want to do because they were all white. 0.99

01:39:39.800 I'm worried about the same thing.

01:39:41.720 He was worried about the guys walking free that did the crime.

01:39:45.280 I'm I'm worried about the same thing.

01:39:48.020 And I'm worried about the prosecution just for a different reason, because I think this guy is a radical and God forbid this is true.

01:39:56.140 I ain't even saying it, but it's just I mean, you're telling me crazier things aren't happening now that this thing is overcharged and they they fail on the prosecution.

01:40:07.040 And we have a massive, massive problem on our hands.

01:40:11.840 I hope the federal government is watching this closely.

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01:42:07.400 Uh, Stuber Greer is with us.

01:42:10.000 Stu just did a show last night.

01:42:12.120 Uh, and, uh, Stu does.

01:42:14.240 What was it last night?

01:42:15.480 Uh, Stu does defunding the police was last night's episode.

01:42:18.400 Uh, and he went over all of the stats that you're hearing today and how these stats are misused or misunderstood.

01:42:26.820 Uh, the problem is not, uh, as it is stated, um, by the New York Times and everybody else.

01:42:33.680 It's just not.

01:42:35.020 Yeah.

01:42:35.160 You can watch the whole thing.

01:42:36.440 Uh, if you go to YouTube and just search for Stu, it'll be the first show there.

01:42:39.460 But if you go there and you check it out, one of the things I think is interesting is we can all come together and say an individual thing happened to this individual, George Floyd, that should be punished by the law.

01:42:51.680 And, uh, and I don't know if anyone's noticed this.

01:42:53.400 We've charged four people and, you know, including murder.

01:42:56.040 Uh, so that we've done some of this already.

01:42:58.140 The idea is how do you expand this into a much larger, uh, societal, uh, ill.

01:43:04.540 And while we've had problems with this before, here's something where we've made real progress.

01:43:10.280 We've actually almost completely solved it to the point of something like six or seven times as many people die from interactions with lawnmowers every year.

01:43:21.980 Then die, uh, for, as an unarmed black person being killed by police, uh, you know, when you think of the number of people that are involved in the, with the police and how violent those things could get, that's a remarkable stat. 0.78

01:43:37.520 A remarkable stat.

01:43:38.420 And I have to say this, it's about 20 times as many people die of constipation, which sounds like a terrible way to go.

01:43:44.500 I mean, I don't know even, I don't know what the mechanics of that are, but that sounds awful.

01:43:47.960 I don't want to know what the mechanics are.

01:43:49.700 I do want to know what are the signs that that might be happening to you.

01:43:53.780 Too much cheese.

01:43:54.580 I mean, I think I know what they are.

01:43:56.000 Okay.

01:43:56.560 And I just, I just go to the hospital, right?

01:43:59.380 I don't think I'd be like, I don't know.

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01:45:26.500 Oh, welcome to the Glenn Beck program from the Standing Rock Ranch.

01:45:31.600 We're glad you're here.

01:45:32.760 You miss a minute of the show.

01:45:33.980 You miss a lot.

01:45:36.060 Uh, we have not had a chance to get to some of the insane arguments, uh, put together by

01:45:43.480 these protesters who are now, I guess, in charge of, uh, of Minneapolis and the new, and the

01:45:54.440 new police force that they can't really describe.

01:45:57.480 It is madness, madness.

01:46:01.700 Uh, Wolf Blitzer had the Minneapolis city council president, uh, Lisa Bender and vice

01:46:09.300 president, Andrea Jenkins on, uh, yesterday and was trying to get to the bottom of, okay,

01:46:17.460 so, so what does this all mean?

01:46:18.940 Well, how is it?

01:46:20.560 How is policing without police going to work?

01:46:23.640 Exactly.

01:46:24.300 Listen, what happens if there's a criminal out there with a gun and start shooting people?

01:46:29.520 Who's going to respond if there's no police force?

01:46:33.360 Look, it is our top priority to keep every single member of our community safe.

01:46:38.380 And if you look back at the last 150 years of our police department, it is becoming increasingly

01:46:44.380 clear that that model of policing isn't working.

01:46:48.140 So we need to invite in our whole community.

01:46:50.060 The nine numbers of the city council that came from every corner of our city to stand

01:46:54.660 together to make this commitment, we don't have all the answers.

01:46:58.120 But they're very diverse.

01:46:58.960 And what we committed to was a community process to help reimagine public safety.

01:47:04.460 Okay, we're going to reimagine public safety.

01:47:07.800 Now, I don't know about you, but I get a lot of confidence of this from this woman sitting

01:47:11.720 in, I think, in her dorm room, uh, or, you know, her apartment that looks like she's

01:47:17.760 still in college in a dorm room, uh, and the other woman who is also city council, uh, 0.63

01:47:24.300 who is sitting next to her, who looks like she just doesn't give a flying crap that she's 1.00

01:47:29.980 on television or anything else.

01:47:32.000 I'm filled with confidence between these two.

01:47:34.480 I kind of like, they're going to work it out.

01:47:36.120 I kind of like her because she's adopting our approach.

01:47:38.400 Like, we obviously don't care what we look like when we're on television.

01:47:40.840 We've given up.

01:47:41.900 So she's kind of like, she's looking around.

01:47:44.120 She's not even looking at the camera.

01:47:45.640 She, I like, I like her approach.

01:47:47.520 I almost feel though that her answer was almost like, although I wait, wait, she does look

01:47:52.200 like her, her husband, put her back on.

01:47:54.280 Like her husband gave her a COVID haircut.

01:47:57.380 Oh yeah.

01:47:58.140 You know, I don't know if you've seen people who are getting COVID haircuts from their spouse

01:48:02.240 and they're like, oops, I just shaved half your head.

01:48:05.020 Uh, yeah, no, it's going to look great.

01:48:07.500 She does look like she just got a COVID haircut. 0.81

01:48:09.500 There's two looks basically on television right now, which is the, you know, the look

01:48:12.980 that you got a bad haircut from, from your spouse or the one where you said, I don't

01:48:17.300 want a bad haircut from my spouse.

01:48:18.960 So I'm going to just going to let it grow and just let it flow.

01:48:21.840 I had that one going on for about three months.

01:48:24.500 Only recently.

01:48:25.500 Thankfully that I live in Texas, I was able to solve that.

01:48:29.120 I've got that one going on right now.

01:48:31.440 Cause I'm living like a mountain man up in the mountains.

01:48:34.160 So I've got that one going on.

01:48:35.480 And I also have the really extra, which neither of these ladies have a problem with the, uh, 0.71

01:48:41.420 uh, what I like to call it the, uh, COVID 40.

01:48:44.260 Oh yeah.

01:48:44.960 Where it started as a COVID 19 where you might gain 19 pounds.

01:48:48.640 I may have gained 40, uh, but, uh, it is not pretty, man.

01:48:53.500 This is, no, it's not.

01:48:55.340 My wife has this issue where she gets stressed out. 1.00

01:48:57.840 She stops eating.

01:48:58.900 I was like, I want that issue so badly.

01:49:02.520 If I can just, that's a superpower.

01:49:04.680 It's not an issue.

01:49:05.640 Like I, I, if I could have that issue, I just, I just create more stress in my life and everything

01:49:09.880 would be fine.

01:49:10.960 Instead I'd go the opposite direction.

01:49:12.800 Um, Glenn, I just wanted to real quick address the actual policy that she outlined there,

01:49:17.420 which was almost too specific.

01:49:19.920 I almost felt I was overwhelmed.

01:49:22.000 I got too much.

01:49:23.360 Yeah.

01:49:24.040 Yeah.

01:49:24.540 She got down into the, she, you know, she did what all of these wonks do. 1.00

01:49:28.580 You know, you just get into the details and you lose me.

01:49:32.260 I know.

01:49:32.940 I mean, I get, I mean, legitimately his question was, okay, someone is shooting people actively

01:49:37.820 in the middle of the square.

01:49:39.060 What happens?

01:49:39.740 We're going to bring the community together, including the city council people to determine

01:49:45.620 how to, because the, this old form of policing doesn't work.

01:49:49.040 It works pretty well to put down active shooters.

01:49:52.080 I don't think it's funny.

01:49:54.020 It does.

01:49:54.520 Everyone was like, oh gosh, these, they've been killing so many people.

01:49:58.920 Indiscriminately.

01:49:59.800 Uh, and then they give you a look at, look at this number.

01:50:01.700 There's been a, you know, nine of these people, for example, they say, uh, unarmed black men

01:50:06.240 has been, you know, this topic we've been talking about lately and they go through the

01:50:09.280 shootings and there were, I believe there was nine shootings of unarmed black men in

01:50:13.180 2019, which look in a country of 330 million.

01:50:16.420 And I know every one of them is terrible, but you know, like it's 330 million.

01:50:21.760 As we pointed out, you know, I think it's 64 people a year die of, uh, from interactions

01:50:27.160 with lawnmowers, 700 people a year in the United States die from falling off their bed.

01:50:31.840 At some level, you can't eliminate every single instance of something.

01:50:36.840 Um, yeah.

01:50:36.920 You know, if you were, if you were betting on something and your odds were 350 million to

01:50:42.240 nine, you wouldn't, you wouldn't, you wouldn't expect to win.

01:50:46.620 Um, yeah.

01:50:47.980 Uh, so one of the people though, in that nine was a person who previously had an actual shootout

01:50:56.660 with police in the past.

01:50:58.500 And then the police were having another interaction with this person and this person told police

01:51:04.740 he had a gun and was going to kill them.

01:51:07.720 They then killed him and later on found out he didn't actually had a gun, have a gun.

01:51:12.860 He was lying.

01:51:13.340 That's an unarmed shooting of a black man in America.

01:51:16.980 So we say nine, but many of them, it seems like more than half of them, I think it was

01:51:23.340 five of the nine seemed completely justified given the surrounding circumstances.

01:51:28.660 It's not always easy to just say, oh, well, an unarmed person died.

01:51:33.120 You know, you don't know, like another person had their gun, but they had it in their car.

01:51:38.020 No, shut up. 1.00

01:51:38.960 Shut up. 0.95

01:51:39.520 I don't want to hear any of this white propaganda that you just keep spilling out.

01:51:45.220 I want to go back to the one in her dorm room, uh, on the city council that was with Alison

01:51:52.740 Camerata, who I don't know how dead inside she's had to go, but she's still working at

01:51:58.480 CNN and she shows no expression on her face during this dialogue.

01:52:03.520 Do you understand that the word dismantle or police free also makes some people nervous?

01:52:10.760 For instance, what if in the middle of the night my home is broken into?

01:52:15.600 Who do I call?

01:52:16.520 Yes.

01:52:18.520 I mean, I, I hear that loud and clear from a lot of my neighbors and I know, and myself

01:52:24.100 too.

01:52:24.540 And I know that that comes from a place of privilege because for those of us, for whom

01:52:29.060 the system is working, I think we need to step back and imagine what it would feel like

01:52:33.860 to already live in that reality where calling the police may mean more harm is done.

01:52:39.620 Okay.

01:52:40.940 All right.

01:52:41.400 So when I call nine one, one, they just say, right, it was great when this worked, no one's

01:52:48.340 coming.

01:52:48.960 Now I want you to contemplate that.

01:52:51.180 Is that what happens?

01:52:52.020 Cause I'm not really think of, think of how insanely difficult the talking points have to

01:52:57.180 be to weave through some abstract excuse for getting rid of the police and then some abstract

01:53:05.420 idea that what we're doing is, well, we want you to think about, and it's going to be great

01:53:09.920 because we have the, I don't know anyone who can do that.

01:53:13.880 It makes no sense.

01:53:15.220 It's something that only a four year old would come up with and it has to be explained into

01:53:22.020 policy and sold to the nation.

01:53:24.060 It cannot be done.

01:53:25.220 Now imagine Joe Biden is the delivery person for that message.

01:53:36.760 May I just play, uh, just a little bit on how he was dealing yesterday with the protesters.

01:53:44.840 And I hope you are watching on blaze TV is as good with sound, but it's so much better on

01:53:51.820 camera.

01:53:52.280 Watch the act of protesting should never be allowed to overshadow the reason for the protest

01:54:10.180 in the first place.

01:54:10.820 Uh-huh.

01:54:11.200 Okay.

01:54:11.520 Got it.

01:54:11.820 That's exactly what you said.

01:54:13.040 Tomorrow night in Wilmington, for example, there's a lot of really good people.

01:54:17.180 I'm going to be out of, I'm not going to be here.

01:54:18.600 I'm going to be up in, up in Pennsylvania, but tomorrow night, what I worry a little bit

01:54:23.520 about is you and many other are going to be out there protesting legitimately for change.

01:54:30.100 Uh-huh.

01:54:30.920 But we can't allow the protesting to overshadow the purpose of the protest.

01:54:39.500 Got it.

01:54:40.260 Okay, now, if you're not, yeah, if you're not watching that, you missed how great that

01:54:45.960 is.

01:54:46.360 Not only did he say the same exact same thing three times, um, he was looking down at his

01:54:52.960 lap like he had that written down on a card sitting on his lap.

01:54:57.480 He had no idea what he's talking about.

01:55:00.160 So here you have a guy who is as white as chalk, doesn't know what day it is, diarrhea of the 1.00

01:55:08.620 mouth.

01:55:09.360 He gets into a major league debate with Donald Trump on the stage, and he has to weave his

01:55:18.660 way through this, this, uh, uh, protest, Black Lives Matter, through that entire minefield

01:55:26.900 without talking about, you know, corn pop or his, uh, his leg hair.

01:55:33.320 This is going to be the most delicious meal we've ever had.

01:55:39.660 First of all, I totally disagree with your analysis on whether he should bring up corn pop

01:55:44.920 or the leg hair.

01:55:45.600 I think that's, he should leave with it every time, every time I'm telling you, he's going

01:55:50.980 to get into a debate.

01:55:52.040 He won't know what to do.

01:55:53.300 He won't know where he is.

01:55:54.740 He'll be looking down at his notes.

01:55:56.380 He'll be so awkward and white. 0.90

01:55:58.660 And, uh, then he'll, he'll just think corn pop and he'll tell the damn story.

01:56:03.780 I mean, you watch that video because it is a, and obviously they've, they've specifically

01:56:09.660 a designed a phrase, which they believe is not offensive to Black Lives Matter or,

01:56:15.460 any of their supporters, but also can indicate, you know, maybe we do need a policeman or

01:56:20.140 two, essentially.

01:56:21.220 So we don't want the protest to overshadow the very important thing.

01:56:24.960 It's not that we are against burning down police precincts.

01:56:29.120 We're just saying that might overshadow the wonderful thing you're doing when you're,

01:56:34.460 when you're protesting.

01:56:35.320 Are you telling me that you, you think that somebody in this audience didn't get it on

01:56:39.560 the third time that you had to come back and explain it a fourth?

01:56:44.760 Really?

01:56:45.800 Well, I think it's true.

01:56:48.300 It's a fair point.

01:56:49.180 I will, I'll grant you, but he butchered it so badly.

01:56:52.180 I didn't know if it made any sense to anyone.

01:56:56.780 Okay.

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01:58:15.760 Looters lit fires during another night of violent protests.

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01:58:50.220 Hello, America.

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01:58:52.480 My name is Glenn Beck.

01:58:53.300 Stu Bergeer is here.

01:58:54.520 Yeah.

01:58:54.940 And, uh...

01:58:55.520 And basically what I was trying to say there is that there was this, like, idea that the

01:58:59.100 protests themselves...

01:59:01.020 You're going for the fifth time.

01:59:02.840 What overshadowed?

01:59:03.460 Stu, I get it.

01:59:04.540 I get it.

01:59:05.820 The protests, because of the mayhem, are overshadowing the cry for help.

01:59:12.500 Right.

01:59:12.920 I think everybody got it the first time he said it.

01:59:15.580 And you may have actually understood that.

01:59:17.680 I think my larger point here...

01:59:20.820 Okay, I'm looking for it.

01:59:21.860 Yeah.

01:59:22.480 Is that they felt the need to put that on a card for this man.

01:59:29.880 That is a very basic concept that he should be able to explain over and over again without

01:59:36.580 ever looking at a card.

01:59:38.560 But they were so worried he would go off script and start talking about corn pop and leg hair,

01:59:43.480 they had to write the exact phrasing, and he's so nervous about it, he has to check it over

01:59:48.000 and over again.

01:59:48.940 Could I take this elevator down one more floor?

01:59:51.420 Sure.

01:59:51.620 To some place closer to hell?

01:59:55.540 What if it wasn't them, his aides, that wrote it down?

02:00:00.140 What if it was him thinking, I've got a genius thing.

02:00:03.820 I've got to say this.

02:00:05.560 And I can't forget to say this.

02:00:07.760 That was the thing that drove him.

02:00:11.560 He was like, I am going to master this interview because I got it down.

02:00:15.420 It's very possible and very scary.

02:00:18.000 Every once in a while, they have the over-the-shoulder shot of Trump where he's crossed something

02:00:23.820 out in a speech and he writes what he wants to say in big letters.

02:00:26.880 Can you imagine what Joe Biden's cards look like?

02:00:29.880 I mean, it probably says like squirrels and possums and leg hair and Oreos and I would have

02:00:36.220 no idea.

02:00:36.860 Corpot.

02:00:37.220 Corpot.

02:00:37.860 I think we should imagine that.

02:00:40.020 Maybe on tomorrow's program, we should imagine that.

02:00:43.200 I'm just saying.

02:00:43.980 Also on tomorrow's program, we are going to do police officers.

02:00:50.000 I'd love to have the police officers from all around the country phone in, tell us why

02:00:55.900 you're still going to work, quite honestly, and how you're feeling.

02:01:00.840 That'll be on tomorrow's program.

02:01:03.700 Yes.

02:01:04.620 Cindy?

02:01:05.720 Hi, yes.

02:01:06.420 I just wanted to say I don't understand why you don't get what Stu's saying.

02:01:10.420 He's just simply saying the protests are, they would overshadow.

02:01:16.300 Thank you very much, Cindy.

02:01:18.500 Why are you?

02:01:19.060 I think we all, I think we all get it.

02:01:21.600 What I'm saying is leg hair can be braided into.

02:01:24.920 Can I ask Stu a question on the poll numbers?

02:01:32.000 Everybody's freaking out about Donald Trump's poll numbers.

02:01:34.540 I don't think they mean crap right now.

02:01:37.300 Yeah, I'm kind of with you on that.

02:01:39.400 I mean, taking, if we were in a normal election year, it would be very reasonable to panic.

02:01:45.860 The polls are very bad.

02:01:47.620 To give you a quick outline of it, the worst the polls ever showed between Donald Trump

02:01:53.580 and Hillary Clinton was eight points that Hillary led by, and it was mostly like three 0.86

02:01:57.560 or four and bounced back and forth between eight and basically a tie.

02:02:01.040 It's been an average of eight the entire time against Biden and is now worse than that.

02:02:05.740 But you can't take out of the picture the context of the moment.

02:02:10.940 Trump hasn't even attempted to attack Biden yet.

02:02:13.300 Like, no one is focusing on this election yet.

02:02:15.820 So I think at this point, it's way too early to read into it.

02:02:18.100 We could be at nuclear war with Zimbabwe in a week, and it wouldn't be surprising. 1.00

02:02:22.480 There's a lot of time left.

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