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00:00:46.400 We've got a president who's just making us proud in Europe right now.

00:00:49.860 He's just doing such a great job.

00:00:52.520 We have some lingering videos to share and some audio from his adventures in Europe.

00:00:58.680 He's really good.

00:01:00.000 He's really good.

00:01:01.060 You're going to burst with pride.

00:01:02.940 It's Pride Month.

00:01:04.820 That's why we're bursting with pride.

00:01:06.700 Exactly right.

00:01:08.380 We'll get to that and much more in 60 seconds.

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00:02:28.980 We talked a little bit about this.

00:02:30.860 I don't think we had the video at the time.

00:02:33.060 But we talked about him sort of sitting in a pretend chair or whatever.

00:02:37.300 What was he?

00:02:38.140 He was kind of bending down, squatting down like he was, I don't know, maybe pooping his pants.

00:02:44.340 It was a number two incident.

00:02:46.180 Yeah.

00:02:46.900 That was at least what people were saying.

00:02:48.920 There was some speculation.

00:02:50.280 Speculation.

00:02:51.180 Yes.

00:02:52.380 Maybe like Al Roker once did at the White House, maybe the president of the United States at this D-Day commemoration actually pooped his pants.

00:03:03.160 But here is the actual video of what happened, what transpired.

00:03:11.620 And he's standing there, looks over.

00:03:13.820 Okay, and he starts to...

00:03:15.660 Distinguished guests, please welcome the Honorable Lloyd J. Austin III, Secretary of Defense of the United States of America.

00:03:23.840 He does sit down, though.

00:03:24.760 He does actually sit.

00:03:26.080 All right.

00:03:26.700 He just wanted to sit down.

00:03:28.520 I mean, everyone was cutting off the video before that.

00:03:30.960 He was, yeah.

00:03:31.620 And he stops in the middle of it and eventually does sit down.

00:03:37.880 Again, we'll do all the fact-checking.

00:03:40.000 The media won't do.

00:03:41.340 There was a lot of talk about him pooping his pants.

00:03:43.180 I mean, he may have also done that.

00:03:45.300 I can't deny it.

00:03:46.520 But he was just sitting in slow motion there.

00:03:50.500 Yeah, sitting in slow motion and sitting down before everyone else nearby.

00:03:54.060 So if you cut the clip off, which is what everyone did online, it looks like he's just kind of sitting in an invisible chair and then stands back up.

00:04:04.260 But actually, he is just sitting down.

00:04:05.880 Yes.

00:04:06.760 Now, if you watch this again carefully, if you're able to see this on Blaze TV, as he's sitting down, Jill kind of puts her hand over her mouth.

00:04:16.120 And I think she's saying, don't sit down yet.

00:04:18.980 I think she gets so disgusted with him.

00:04:21.620 Look at it right there.

00:04:22.260 She covers.

00:04:22.820 And I think she's saying something to him.

00:04:24.320 Yep.

00:04:24.780 Don't you just wait a minute.

00:04:26.840 Oh, yeah.

00:04:27.280 Something irritated.

00:04:28.120 Or she just had a real itchy upper lip for about two seconds there.

00:04:33.380 Yeah.

00:04:33.840 She's just disgusted with him.

00:04:35.780 I mean, I can't.

00:04:37.820 I don't know.

00:04:39.540 I can't believe that she's on board to keep pushing him forward in this.

00:04:45.280 She must love the power position so much.

00:04:48.680 Yeah, I kind of think she does love it.

00:04:50.140 I'm not surprised.

00:04:50.920 Because it's not good for him to be doing this.

00:04:53.020 You know, if you really love the guy, if you really care about the guy, you're like, honey, you can't run.

00:04:58.740 Get out.

00:04:59.220 You can't do this.

00:05:00.960 Just let Kamala take over or Gavin Newsom or whatever.

00:05:05.840 We're going to go back to Delaware.

00:05:08.360 Wouldn't you?

00:05:08.840 If, I mean, if you care, first of all, about your husband, but if you care about the nation and you see what's going on with him, I don't know how you could do anything but encourage him to drop out.

00:05:22.860 And I don't know that that would work.

00:05:24.600 I don't know that she would be able to step in and make him leave.

00:05:28.280 I mean, he's the president of the United States, and that's the one thing that is the one reason why at this point I am, I would say, a favorite to win my bets against Glenn Beck, Jason Buttrell, others who claimed that he was going to drop out and Michelle Obama was going to become the nominee.

00:05:45.680 The reason why I was confident on that, and I could still be wrong, but the reason why I was confident on it is because he still has to make the decision, and he's still the president of the United States.

00:05:57.840 He's an egomaniac, and he thinks he can do it.

00:05:59.600 And, like, the main reason to, the main way you could force him out is people in his family, people around him talking to him and convincing him of that.

00:06:08.120 I don't think that's possible.

00:06:09.100 The guy's wanted this gig his entire life.

00:06:11.240 Yeah.

00:06:11.440 I think the only way you could do it is with leverage, you know, House of Cards style, right?

00:06:18.380 Like, you have something against him, and it's going to be in the papers the next day if you don't leave.

00:06:25.100 Now, there's plenty of stuff in Joe Biden's, you know, plenty of skeletons in the closet that could be utilized in this manner.

00:06:34.660 But he also knew that when he decided to run, and despite the fact he knew what would happen to his son, right?

00:06:44.000 Like, he knew all this would come out.

00:06:45.480 Did it anyway.

00:06:46.080 He did it anyway, because he wants this so badly.

00:06:49.060 Yep.

00:06:49.340 He's always wanted this.

00:06:50.600 He's always believed he's the best guy for it.

00:06:52.760 Everyone has told him his entire life he's a joke, and he's proving everybody wrong.

00:06:58.760 But he believes himself to be brilliant, and witty, and charming, and funny.

00:07:06.740 He's none of those things.

00:07:08.120 Yep.

00:07:08.500 He's never been on the inside of those intellectual circles.

00:07:12.460 Yeah, he loves it.

00:07:13.100 He's always been kind of a foot soldier.

00:07:15.640 Yeah.

00:07:15.820 He's always been sort of demeaned as a second guy.

00:07:18.800 And Barack treated him that way.

00:07:19.640 Yep.

00:07:19.920 Barack treated him that way.

00:07:21.180 He was a joke in every primary he ran in, until he ran into one that he only faced an out-socialist during a pandemic.

00:07:30.980 Mm-hmm.

00:07:31.840 Mm-hmm.

00:07:32.240 Every other part of his career has been kind of an embarrassment, right?

00:07:37.880 Like, he's been able to—he won early in Delaware, and then held onto a seat he never could possibly lose in a state he couldn't possibly lose in.

00:07:47.800 Yeah.

00:07:47.980 And he kind of just hung around and was kind of a joke.

00:07:52.140 And now he's the president of the United States.

00:07:53.820 And you're telling me he's just going to leave?

00:07:55.400 Like, I don't know.

00:07:56.540 He's not.

00:07:56.680 I'm a big skeptic on that one.

00:07:58.520 So you've got a—you've got a $3,000 bet with Glenn, right?

00:08:01.600 Yes.

00:08:01.980 On Big Mike.

00:08:03.380 And also, Buttrell?

00:08:05.900 Yeah, Buttrell's in on that.

00:08:07.240 I have a list right here of Michelle Obama heads.

00:08:10.340 Now, not all of them I have wagers with, but these are people who've come on the air or have—

00:08:15.200 And believe, as Glenn does, that Big Mike is going to run.

00:08:17.740 That Big Mike is going to be the nominee.

00:08:19.300 Okay.

00:08:19.740 We have Glenn Beck, Jason Buttrell, Stephen Moore.

00:08:24.160 Wow.

00:08:24.700 Really?

00:08:25.280 Yes.

00:08:26.120 Huh.

00:08:26.680 Dan Andros.

00:08:28.040 Oh, my gosh.

00:08:29.200 Bill O'Reilly.

00:08:30.720 These people should know better.

00:08:32.300 I mean, I can see the—

00:08:34.740 I don't think it's crazy.

00:08:36.040 I can see the path.

00:08:37.100 It's only crazy because she hates the country too much to do it.

00:08:42.520 Yeah, but I mean, what better way to show that you despise the nation?

00:08:46.140 You could finish us off.

00:08:47.300 Yeah.

00:08:48.420 One four-year term.

00:08:49.940 You could finish the job.

00:08:51.540 But I think she likes her current lifestyle way too much.

00:08:54.600 I think so, too.

00:08:54.780 And I think that, you know, finally she's enjoying the kind of life that she believes she's always deserved.

00:09:01.300 And, you know, they got the $100 million deal from Netflix or whatever.

00:09:05.380 They've got deals all over the place for stuff they're not even doing.

00:09:09.200 Yeah.

00:09:09.420 For things that haven't even happened and people just keep throwing money at them and she loves it.

00:09:14.080 They have three houses all over the world.

00:09:16.740 Hawaii, Washington, D.C., Chicago.

00:09:19.780 They've got—I mean, they've got a nice lifestyle going.

00:09:22.840 It's a great life.

00:09:24.040 And I don't believe she would jeopardize that.

00:09:26.500 And they're largely past the political divisions that would make her life miserable, right?

00:09:31.560 Like, I mean, you know, time heals a lot of wounds.

00:09:35.780 You know, remember, you're in 2006.

00:09:38.880 Anywhere George W. Bush goes, people are throwing shoes at him, right?

00:09:42.460 Like, even now, George W. Bush can go around and go to baseball games.

00:09:45.880 Like, you know—

00:09:46.580 And he's fine.

00:09:47.100 And he's fine.

00:09:47.680 Yeah.

00:09:47.840 He's fine.

00:09:48.340 And it's plenty fine for them.

00:09:50.540 It's a different world.

00:09:51.500 Yeah.

00:09:51.760 And Obama, especially, like, was already a quote-unquote superstar when he was in there.

00:09:56.420 Right.

00:09:56.560 Michelle is now—I mean, she gets to do whatever she wants.

00:10:00.260 She sure does.

00:10:00.700 She gets multi-million dollar Netflix deals.

00:10:02.480 She's making TV shows.

00:10:04.060 You know.

00:10:04.480 And I'm grateful for it because she would finish us.

00:10:07.620 She'd finish us off.

00:10:08.560 It's money well spent.

00:10:09.740 Disaster.

00:10:10.260 You know, people talk about Netflix being liberal.

00:10:11.960 Of course they are.

00:10:12.720 But, like, they're doing an American service here.

00:10:14.600 They are.

00:10:14.940 By spending money to the Obama—giving money to the Obamas to, you know, to keep that down.

00:10:19.560 Because I would worry about it.

00:10:20.760 I—if she were the nominee, it would be—

00:10:23.760 She'd win.

00:10:24.800 I really believe she'd win.

00:10:26.860 She'd certainly be the favorite.

00:10:28.000 I don't know how she would handle a campaign.

00:10:29.680 I mean, when she's campaigned—when she was really out there doing her thing, they took

00:10:35.620 her off the campaign trail because she was doing such a bad job.

00:10:37.960 She's so bad.

00:10:38.060 But that was early.

00:10:38.960 And she's probably learned—

00:10:39.500 Because it was so obvious how much she loathed this country.

00:10:42.780 Yeah.

00:10:42.940 They had to take her off the campaign trail.

00:10:44.520 Right.

00:10:44.720 Now, she obviously ran a second campaign.

00:10:47.380 Everything—I mean, not everything was fine, but it was—it wasn't nearly as bad.

00:10:51.500 It was better.

00:10:51.860 She learned, I think, over time what she could get away with.

00:10:54.520 Yes.

00:10:54.860 Not everyone has never been proud of their country and their adult lives.

00:10:58.740 Right.

00:10:59.160 Like, she learns that eventually.

00:11:00.680 Oh, my gosh.

00:11:01.360 So, I don't think these are—I don't think the Michelle Obama theory is a wild theory,

00:11:05.940 especially if something happened late.

00:11:08.100 Right?

00:11:08.260 Like, if you were—if it was a situation—I don't know.

00:11:13.180 It's hard to understand how Kamala wouldn't get it.

00:11:15.800 And I know people are like, how can they possibly—it's Kamala's, unless it was a performance

00:11:23.300 issue that removed them.

00:11:25.460 Now, of course, we could all say, hey, this has been a performance issue.

00:11:28.160 I don't know if everyone's noticed this.

00:11:28.980 It's gone very poorly.

00:11:30.220 Yeah.

00:11:30.600 You're at 37%, 38%.

00:11:32.000 I don't think you're getting that.

00:11:34.540 Did we talk about this, Pat?

00:11:35.640 What the number is where they just pulled him from the ticket for approval rating?

00:11:41.320 I don't think we did.

00:11:42.720 I—

00:11:43.000 What do you think that number is?

00:11:43.940 I think it's 29%.

00:11:45.340 29?

00:11:45.840 That's what I came up with.

00:11:46.860 Okay.

00:11:47.080 If he starts getting—

00:11:47.900 It's at 36, last I heard.

00:11:49.460 36, 37, 38 is light years away from 29%.

00:11:55.280 Yeah.

00:11:55.620 Because what that means is you're essentially losing a quarter of your base.

00:11:59.800 It can happen.

00:12:01.160 I mean, George W. Bush, at the end of his term, was right around there, 29%.

00:12:06.780 Ooh.

00:12:07.120 Around his second term.

00:12:07.920 Wasn't that bad?

00:12:08.720 Yeah.

00:12:08.920 Because, you know, you're in the financial crisis, right?

00:12:10.840 He leaves.

00:12:11.280 Oh, yeah.

00:12:11.860 You're in October, November.

00:12:13.140 Yeah.

00:12:13.200 If I remember right, he was in the—he had a couple polls in the high 20s.

00:12:16.320 Ooh.

00:12:16.580 You have that going for re-election.

00:12:18.500 I think they might just pull the plug on that.

00:12:19.460 I mean, only Nixon has been there before, right?

00:12:22.500 Uh, has anybody been that low besides Richard Nixon?

00:12:25.500 I don't know.

00:12:25.980 I have to—you know what?

00:12:26.520 I can look that up.

00:12:27.160 I can get that for you here in a minute.

00:12:29.020 But it is one of those situations where you look at the performance here, and you could

00:12:36.160 say his presidency has been bad enough to justify him being removed.

00:12:40.680 But if you're going to remove him for health reasons, you can go—you're going to go to

00:12:48.620 Kamala.

00:12:49.040 You have to go to Kamala, I think.

00:12:50.720 If you remove him for health reasons, if you're—if his excuse is, I got to be with

00:12:54.060 my son Hunter, I've got to leave because of, you know, my—I've got—you know, one

00:13:01.240 of the 45 things you see go wrong with me every day is acting up.

00:13:05.080 Whatever the health reason, God forbid something terrible happens to him, you'd have a situation

00:13:09.900 where there you'd have to go to Kamala.

00:13:12.220 If you go to performance and say, oh my gosh, 29% approval rating, we're just pulling him

00:13:18.040 off the ticket, and at that point, you could make the argument Kamala's been so bad, we're

00:13:22.480 going to another person of color, which you'd have to do on the Democratic side.

00:13:25.840 It would have to be another woman of color, and Michelle Obama's the only one probably

00:13:29.500 who can step in in that scenario.

00:13:31.200 So I don't think it's a wild theory, but, like, the fact that I got even odds with Glenn

00:13:36.520 on it was a freaking miracle.

00:13:37.920 It was not—it was never even odds.

00:13:40.260 No.

00:13:40.540 Now, luckily, Glenn doesn't gamble, so has no idea what any of this means.

00:13:44.660 Yeah.

00:13:45.060 So, like, I mean, I would have given him probably five to one on it, but, you know, Glenn doesn't

00:13:50.340 know what he—

00:13:50.600 You didn't need to.

00:13:51.180 I didn't need to.

00:13:51.880 I didn't need to, because Glenn doesn't understand these things.

00:13:53.780 You're about to be a richer person.

00:13:55.260 I really believe that.

00:13:56.140 There's a good chance of it.

00:13:56.920 Yeah.

00:13:57.180 There's a good chance.

00:13:57.660 Very, very good chance.

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00:15:20.060 So the cadaver-in-chief was asked some questions yesterday, and one of them was about Vladimir

00:15:28.140 Putin.

00:15:29.340 Here's what he had to say there.

00:15:31.060 Let me ask you about what Vladimir Putin said last night about this authorization of American

00:15:35.700 weapons inside Russia.

00:15:37.540 He said the supply of high-precision weapons to Ukraine for strikes on Russian territory

00:15:42.760 is direct participation in this war.

00:15:46.660 He went on to say that this is the way to serious problems, and again talked about Russia's

00:15:51.840 nuclear capabilities.

00:15:53.620 Does that concern you?

00:15:54.700 I've known him for over 40 years.

00:15:58.380 Oh, good.

00:15:58.840 He's concerned me for 40 years.

00:16:00.940 He's not a decent man.

00:16:02.540 He's a dictator.

00:16:03.600 And neither are you.

00:16:04.460 And he's struggling to make sure he holds his country together while still keeping this

00:16:08.640 assault going.

00:16:09.840 We're not talking about giving them weapons to strike Moscow, to strike the Kremlin, to

00:16:13.800 strike just across the border where they're receiving significant fire from conventional

00:16:19.980 weapons used by the Russians to go into Ukraine to kill Ukrainians.

00:16:25.980 It's like someone said, hey, I dare you to just take one breath and do the whole interview.

00:16:29.960 You're just exhaling the entire time.

00:16:33.160 It's like, you can't even understand the guy.

00:16:35.480 I know.

00:16:36.460 And I really can't understand what we're doing with this situation in Russia.

00:16:42.500 It's exactly what he said we wouldn't do.

00:16:44.920 Yep.

00:16:45.280 And he's doing it anyway.

00:16:46.600 He crosses his own red lines over and over and over again because he's pathetic.

00:16:49.540 Every single time.

00:16:50.740 And I, you have to, let me ask you this, Pat.

00:16:55.440 Other than an all out attack by the United States troops on Moscow, if you wanted to

00:17:03.560 start World War III, what would you change about the approach that we are currently engaged

00:17:08.420 in?

00:17:09.420 What other, other than us?

00:17:11.740 You mean now that we're sending them long range weaponry?

00:17:14.220 Other than us directly attacking them.

00:17:16.460 F-16s?

00:17:17.620 Yeah.

00:17:18.640 I wouldn't change anything.

00:17:19.780 Yeah.

00:17:20.240 It's a great path.

00:17:21.160 We wouldn't change anything.

00:17:21.940 It's a great path if you want World War III.

00:17:24.660 Yes.

00:17:25.120 Right?

00:17:25.680 Like, I am, I don't know, maybe I misread the, you know, the audience at times when it

00:17:33.580 comes to conservatives.

00:17:34.380 But like, I feel like when I, when we talk about Ukraine, I feel like I'm probably more

00:17:39.720 sympathetic to the Ukrainian cause here than many in the audience.

00:17:44.180 I feel like they got attacked out of nowhere.

00:17:47.020 It's BS.

00:17:48.260 They should have their right to defend themselves.

00:17:51.960 Sure.

00:17:52.440 However, our role in that is the problem.

00:17:55.860 Right.

00:17:56.320 Like, I don't have any issue at all.

00:17:59.000 And I feel like if I have to look at who's right, who's right and who's wrong in this back

00:18:02.960 and forth, I think Ukraine has the much better argument here.

00:18:06.760 Yeah.

00:18:06.880 I understand Russia has, has concerns and they've, they've expressed them as far as

00:18:11.980 NATO and we have some issues there, the way we handled that.

00:18:14.800 But at the end of the day, they're sitting there, they, it's Russian tanks coming across

00:18:20.420 the border.

00:18:21.520 They are the ones who were attacked.

00:18:23.740 If I were a talk show host in Ukraine, I would be arguing constantly that no, we're

00:18:28.200 not giving them Crimea and no, we're not giving them, you know, the Donbas.

00:18:32.620 No, we're not doing any of that.

00:18:34.420 We're going to fight till the death.

00:18:36.060 I'm sure that's what I would think.

00:18:38.260 However, why, if, even if we decided, hey, we got to give them weapons, even if we decided,

00:18:47.680 hey, we want to give them weapons to, to strike within Russian territory.

00:18:52.900 Why do I know about it?

00:18:56.500 Why do I, some moron who lives in Texas, have any idea that we are allowing them to fire

00:19:06.820 our missiles into Russian territory?

00:19:08.400 We should be in a constant state of denial over that.

00:19:12.540 Even if we were doing it.

00:19:13.700 When they, when the Russians say, this is a, oh, we just found the shrapnel of an American

00:19:19.980 missile within our borders.

00:19:22.460 We should be saying, I don't know what you're talking about.

00:19:25.500 We don't even make missiles.

00:19:27.020 We, we don't even know where the borders are, but we, we lost access to maps.

00:19:34.200 Have you ever seen Miss South Carolina have a teen in 2013?

00:19:37.660 And Biden can make that point legitimately.

00:19:39.700 He doesn't know where it is.

00:19:41.280 Everyone would believe him.

00:19:42.480 Yep.

00:19:42.880 Everyone would believe.

00:19:43.720 Yep.

00:19:44.440 He should just be like, I was watching Matlock.

00:19:46.760 I don't even know what's going on over there.

00:19:48.620 That is the appropriate answer.

00:19:50.300 The fact that this guy is doing interviews about how we're letting our weapons, we're

00:19:56.120 approving our weapons to be fired into Russian territory is freaking insane.

00:20:02.340 He's just, Vladimir Putin doesn't need our encouragement to escalate wars.

00:20:08.340 No.

00:20:08.480 But the fact that we continue to give it to him, give him justification to his own people.

00:20:14.020 How do you?

00:20:14.360 And we've done that every step of the way.

00:20:15.820 How do you get them to back down?

00:20:16.840 He, he legitimately can go to his people and say, the American military is allowing their

00:20:24.300 weapons to be fired at you.

00:20:27.360 Right.

00:20:28.280 Now, of course, he's exaggerating.

00:20:30.540 We are already at war with America because of that.

00:20:33.840 Yes.

00:20:34.580 Also, we, we would consider it that way.

00:20:36.700 We've broken every promise we made to him.

00:20:37.740 I mean, I am not in favor of Vladimir Putin and the Russians.

00:20:41.020 I want Ukraine to win this war.

00:20:43.000 But we told them in the beginning, we promised, hey, Ukraine is not a possibility for NATO.

00:20:48.720 We're not going to do that.

00:20:49.500 They're not coming into NATO.

00:20:50.680 So what have we done since?

00:20:52.480 We invited them into NATO.

00:20:55.700 It's incredible.

00:20:56.760 It is incredible.

00:20:58.800 And I just, it is incredible.

00:21:00.020 And I don't know if it was Ronald Reagan, 1984, maybe I'd feel a little more confident

00:21:07.940 of this approach because at least I'd know he was doing the, he had the competence level

00:21:13.220 to try to handle something like this, which is very difficult to do.

00:21:15.840 Very few presidents would be able to handle this.

00:21:18.160 And you have this guy doing it.

00:21:20.640 Look how well it's going so far.

00:21:22.000 Right.

00:21:22.680 I mean, I can't even sit down in a chair properly.

00:21:26.380 Saw that yesterday.

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00:23:18.360 It's Pat and Stu for Glenn today.

00:23:19.640 Today, we were just talking about the approval rating of Joe Biden, which two months ago

00:23:25.420 was, was it 38%?

00:23:29.620 Last month, it was 36%.

00:23:31.860 Did it just go down to 34 in one of the polls?

00:23:34.700 I mean, it's...

00:23:35.200 You didn't see a 34, but it's not at...

00:23:36.980 I mean, it's right in the margin of error.

00:23:38.740 Yeah.

00:23:39.240 Again, I know I'm talking about one poll at 29%.

00:23:41.900 They poll them.

00:23:42.520 I think it's like a...

00:23:43.420 That is his average.

00:23:44.680 Right, yeah.

00:23:45.060 So, current Joe Biden approval rating average, 37.6%.

00:23:50.240 That's current.

00:23:52.140 That's the average.

00:23:53.420 A terrible number.

00:23:54.800 And basically, as low as it's been...

00:23:57.220 In fact, I think it is the lowest it's been.

00:24:00.820 It was right around 38 at the...

00:24:03.280 For the average, though, right?

00:24:05.320 At the average.

00:24:06.380 For the peak...

00:24:07.020 At the peak of the inflation.

00:24:08.440 Okay.

00:24:08.660 When it was really, you know, 9.7%, which is, by the way, where it started for him.

00:24:12.980 Yeah, that's right.

00:24:13.760 I've heard about his administration.

00:24:15.100 It's weird that it shows that it's like 18 months into his presidential term, but...

00:24:18.660 That is weird.

00:24:19.260 That is...

00:24:19.620 There must be an error in the graph.

00:24:22.120 37.6% for Biden.

00:24:23.940 So, historically, how does this measure up against presidents at this time in their presidency?

00:24:28.560 Really well, right?

00:24:29.060 Really well.

00:24:29.980 Is he the highest approval rating?

00:24:31.480 Let's go...

00:24:31.900 We'll go back to 1945, Harry Truman.

00:24:35.160 Okay?

00:24:35.360 Okay.

00:24:35.580 Here we go.

00:24:36.500 Harry Truman...

00:24:37.160 This is...

00:24:37.580 This one...

00:24:38.200 It starts off looking pretty good for Joe.

00:24:40.220 Mm-hmm.

00:24:40.480 Harry Truman, only 38.9% approval rating at this point in this presidency.

00:24:44.100 Still better than Joe's, though.

00:24:44.880 Still better than Joe's.

00:24:46.080 And it got a lot better...

00:24:47.460 Wow.

00:24:47.760 ...later on.

00:24:48.400 In fact, later on in term, he hit almost 70%.

00:24:51.160 So, this was a very low point for Truman.

00:24:53.440 Yeah.

00:24:53.580 Okay.

00:24:54.180 Okay.

00:24:55.140 Eisenhower...

00:24:56.380 Let's see.

00:24:59.220 It was 70.5% at this point.

00:25:02.100 A little higher than Joe's, 38.

00:25:03.480 Just a tad.

00:25:04.320 Yeah.

00:25:04.900 Now, JFK technically was at zero because he was dead at this point in his presidency.

00:25:09.500 So, I mean, I don't know if you give that one to Joe Biden.

00:25:13.100 No.

00:25:14.200 And I guess...

00:25:15.140 I mean, actually, his approval rating was much higher than that, but I don't really count

00:25:18.900 it because he was no longer alive.

00:25:20.200 So, Lyndon B. Johnson, 45.7%.

00:25:25.200 Jesus.

00:25:25.620 That's incredible.

00:25:26.340 So, about eight points better than Joe Biden.

00:25:28.240 Mm-hmm.

00:25:28.420 Richard Nixon, 59.1%.

00:25:31.240 Obviously, way ahead.

00:25:32.440 And this is before Watergate.

00:25:33.660 This is his first term.

00:25:34.780 So, if you want to look at where Nixon got after all of this...

00:25:39.980 I think he got down to 24, didn't he?

00:25:41.960 Yeah.

00:25:42.280 About 24% was his low.

00:25:44.020 Good memory, Pat.

00:25:45.160 That's...

00:25:45.720 Yeah.

00:25:45.940 That's...

00:25:46.260 About 24% was his low right as he was about to resign.

00:25:49.740 Now, he...

00:25:51.140 Once Watergate kind of kicked in...

00:25:52.880 I mean, he was close to 70% as he...

00:25:56.600 Towards the end of his first term.

00:25:58.440 And that turned down for Watergate.

00:26:00.980 And then hovered around 30% for a while and eventually dropped into the mid-20s.

00:26:05.660 So, obviously, that was suboptimal.

00:26:08.200 If you happen to be a Richard Nixon, it didn't go great.

00:26:12.960 You've got...

00:26:14.540 Gerald Ford was about 40%.

00:26:17.020 Jimmy Carter, another close call here for Joseph Robinette Biden.

00:26:22.760 He was on a downfall here.

00:26:24.300 Remember, he loses this election, of course.

00:26:26.260 But Carter's still ahead of Biden by two points.

00:26:29.060 Wow.

00:26:29.400 39.8% at this point in his presidency.

00:26:31.960 Wow.

00:26:32.520 Then you go over to Ronald Reagan.

00:26:34.940 Of course, no surprise here.

00:26:36.240 Reagan's at 55.2% and climbing at this point in his presidency.

00:26:41.520 George H.W. Bush is at 40%.

00:26:44.180 Now, remember, this is Bush off of the peaks of...

00:26:47.640 In the 80s, 82% approval when the Iraq War happens.

00:26:52.500 The minor, minor recession that kicks in at the very end of his presidency somehow is such a big deal

00:26:58.400 that he tanks after this.

00:27:00.620 And at some point soon, likely, Biden will be ahead of where Bush was.

00:27:07.260 George H.W. Bush.

00:27:08.540 I remind you, George H.W. Bush was not re-elected.

00:27:12.280 Right.

00:27:12.880 So, this is not a position you want to be competing with.

00:27:15.040 He is still currently behind George H.W. Bush, who had a 40% approval rating.

00:27:19.620 Bill Clinton was at 53.4%.

00:27:24.020 You know, I'm getting a good streak here.

00:27:26.360 All the scandals.

00:27:27.240 This is pre-scandals.

00:27:28.560 This is pre-Lewinsky.

00:27:30.180 And you're at the point where the economy is doing well.

00:27:32.620 I think Jennifer Flowers maybe had that...

00:27:34.180 Oh, yeah.

00:27:34.420 He had scandals.

00:27:35.200 Yeah.

00:27:35.780 Yeah.

00:27:36.020 But it was before Lewinsky.

00:27:37.420 It was before Lewinsky.

00:27:38.160 Before it was really serious.

00:27:39.300 Before impeachment and all of that.

00:27:40.880 And this is coming off of the recession that got in the presidency.

00:27:45.340 Yeah.

00:27:45.760 In the George H.W. Bush term.

00:27:47.460 And the recovery had happened.

00:27:48.640 The internet boom was going on.

00:27:50.100 Like, this was a good time for Clinton.

00:27:51.620 He's at 53.4% and rising at that point.

00:27:54.840 George W. Bush has gone past 9-11, where he was at, you know, 86%, 87% approval.

00:28:02.340 The Iraq war kind of kicks off.

00:28:04.680 He rises back up to about 69% as that kicks off.

00:28:08.600 And he's on a long, very long downfall that goes down.

00:28:14.060 But again, he does get re-elected.

00:28:15.580 And George W. Bush is at 44.5% at this point in his presidency.

00:28:20.860 Barack Obama does get re-elected.

00:28:23.140 He's at 47.7% right now.

00:28:26.480 Now, again, Obama had...

00:28:28.020 People forget this because they think, oh, remember, he was a celebrity and he had all

00:28:32.020 these big speeches and everyone was ever...

00:28:34.300 He was not very popular as a president.

00:28:37.220 His approval ratings were pretty bad.

00:28:39.840 Pretty middling, I would say, throughout.

00:28:41.640 He really did not have a very good approval rating for most of his presidency.

00:28:46.880 And you compare it with people like George W. Bush.

00:28:49.260 I mean, Obama did not do well in those comparisons most of the time.

00:28:52.940 The problem there was Republicans.

00:28:55.900 The Republican choices that we had to pit against Obama.

00:29:01.260 John McCain.

00:29:02.720 Yep.

00:29:03.260 And Mitt Romney.

00:29:04.880 Well, no wonder he won two terms.

00:29:07.660 And he won narrowly in that second one.

00:29:10.000 But he did win and his approval rating by the time the election happened was about 50%.

00:29:15.280 So that is a line we see often here.

00:29:19.020 If you're above 43, 44% approval rating, your chances of being re-elected are pretty good.

00:29:27.440 You know, people like incumbents.

00:29:30.200 They don't like incumbents, but the incumbent advantage is real.

00:29:33.540 That's something that is real.

00:29:34.860 And by the way, Donald Trump, who, again, is obviously, as the media would tell you, is the least popular man of all time.

00:29:43.020 He was at 42.2% right now.

00:29:47.080 Like five points ahead of where Biden is right now.

00:29:49.360 Yeah, actually, yeah, let me revise that.

00:29:51.300 41%.

00:29:51.740 So about three and a half points ahead.

00:29:54.180 But still, again, Trump did not get re-elected, right?

00:29:57.360 Yeah.

00:29:57.520 So you look at this and you would say, this is, you're not in a good position at all if you're Joe Biden.

00:30:02.420 He's behind, I don't know if anyone followed this, every single one of these presidents.

00:30:08.340 All of them.

00:30:09.740 He's behind all of them.

00:30:12.840 But just all of them.

00:30:13.840 He will likely.

00:30:15.020 He's not ahead of people who didn't run.

00:30:18.580 Or were never elected president.

00:30:20.700 And to be fair, JFK.

00:30:24.000 You can make the argument he's ahead of JFK.

00:30:26.260 You could make that.

00:30:27.100 Because, again, he was dead.

00:30:27.840 Because at least the information we know right now is hard as still beating.

00:30:31.640 Right.

00:30:32.240 Okay.

00:30:32.520 So I think he'll be ahead.

00:30:34.540 By the end of, now, he probably at some point here in the next few months will pass George H.W. Bush,

00:30:40.680 who dropped to like 30% at one point before rising towards the end of his term.

00:30:46.080 And he may pass Jimmy Carter, who was down, who did hit down to like, you know, 32% by the end of his term.

00:30:54.100 When did the read my lips thing happen?

00:30:57.080 Was that, you know, and started getting disgust because he did raise taxes after he said the read my lips.

00:31:04.080 And that was.

00:31:05.000 Yeah.

00:31:05.180 When was the tax increase?

00:31:06.440 When did that happen?

00:31:07.620 Good point.

00:31:08.380 I mean, he must have.

00:31:09.180 I could see why he would go down to 30%.

00:31:11.720 Can you imagine how unbeatable he must have felt?

00:31:14.980 When he was at 90% or something in some polls.

00:31:18.280 George H.W. Bush was at 82.2% on the average.

00:31:21.540 That's average.

00:31:22.200 Two years in.

00:31:23.100 So he's after.

00:31:24.360 I mean, that is like he must have thought he was unbeatable at that point.

00:31:28.960 And then he winds up with the next year and a half dropping to 30% approval rating.

00:31:35.340 It's incredible.

00:31:36.300 It's hard to imagine that stuff happening today because people are so in their lanes.

00:31:40.420 They don't leave.

00:31:42.240 There's a lot more of switching back in the day.

00:31:44.260 Like, that's why a lot of these approval ratings, you could argue if you want to defend a Barack Obama or a Donald Trump that like people are so in their silos on these people.

00:31:51.860 You're never going to get 60, 70, 80% approval ratings anymore outside of maybe a war or, you know, something like that.

00:31:57.800 You just don't get those anymore.

00:32:01.120 I think maybe George W. Bush was the last one at 9-11.

00:32:03.700 And that was because it was such a specific thing that happened.

00:32:07.340 Like, I don't know.

00:32:09.160 And it didn't last.

00:32:10.120 It didn't last, right?

00:32:10.840 I mean, he was at 80, 80, let's see, 85, 86% when 9-11 happens.

00:32:18.500 One year later, he's at 57.

00:32:22.020 So it drops.

00:32:23.120 I mean, it loses about 30 points.

00:32:25.100 And then the Iraq war happens.

00:32:26.640 It pops back up to about 68, 69.

00:32:29.100 Because Americans band together.

00:32:30.860 Band together.

00:32:31.440 When we're fighting wars.

00:32:33.620 And, of course, we, you know, it's forgotten now, but massive bipartisan support for that war.

00:32:38.060 Yeah.

00:32:38.400 It was not a controversial vote.

00:32:40.620 People like Hillary Clinton were voting for it.

00:32:42.600 But he drops down to, around election time, he's in the mid, you know, mid-40s and kind of hovers there until his second term.

00:32:52.780 I mean, you go to his second term, he drops down.

00:32:55.560 His average approval rating right before he leaves office is, like, 24%.

00:33:00.660 W?

00:33:02.720 George W. Bush.

00:33:03.560 Wow.

00:33:03.760 Because, you know, it's the 2008 crisis.

00:33:06.560 Well, yeah, the crisis.

00:33:07.900 The border situation.

00:33:10.080 That was part of it.

00:33:11.380 During the prosecution of the border agents.

00:33:13.460 I mean, there was a lot going on there that, well, that I didn't like.

00:33:16.800 Right.

00:33:17.040 And that's what's interesting, Pat, is these types of disasters with approval rating only occur when you lose your own side.

00:33:24.540 It's not about, like, generally bad vibes.

00:33:27.480 It's about losing everything.

00:33:29.760 You know, Nixon was an example of this.

00:33:31.560 Though he still, and so did George W. Bush, maintained 60, 70% of Republican support.

00:33:36.500 You start seeing numbers like 50 and 60% among Republicans, or in this case, among Democrats.

00:33:42.100 That's the time you see a party maybe making a move before an election.

00:33:46.040 A desperation Hail Mary type move.

00:33:48.700 And then that move, maybe you move to someone else other than Kamala to Michelle Obama or something.

00:33:54.800 Time's running out, though.

00:33:56.040 Yeah, it's going to be, it would be crazy.

00:33:58.440 It's possible.

00:33:59.440 Anything's possible.

00:34:00.480 It's possible, but it's just not likely.

00:34:01.540 I mean, we're with four years away from, you know, the country shutting down.

00:34:06.460 Like, anything's possible.

00:34:09.240 I think at this point, you can't rule stuff out.

00:34:11.900 But, unlikely, you know, unlikely.

00:34:15.940 And the guy wants it.

00:34:17.520 You know, it's not, he's not a guy who's, he's not a, he's not a person who's sitting there going,

00:34:22.220 oh, I don't know.

00:34:22.940 I don't really want this responsibility.

00:34:25.120 I don't like the pressures of the White House.

00:34:27.360 That's all BS.

00:34:28.340 Biden wants every bit of that.

00:34:29.560 He thinks he's amazing.

00:34:30.800 He thinks you don't understand how amazing he is.

00:34:35.660 That's his view of the situation.

00:34:37.340 I don't understand how amazing he is.

00:34:39.640 And you seem to refuse to try.

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00:36:15.420 We'll be right back.

00:36:36.620 Pat and Stu in for Glenn here on the Glenn Beck Program.

00:36:38.980 And I ask you, Pat Gray, you are the fantasy general manager of the Democratic Party right now.

00:36:46.160 Okay?

00:36:46.760 All right.

00:36:47.280 You're making all decisions.

00:36:48.960 You are a dictatorship.

00:36:50.920 Your goal is the Democrats to win this election.

00:36:54.280 This is a little bit hard to put yourself in this position, but I want you to think as a Democrat here.

00:36:58.020 Okay?

00:36:58.540 I come in to you.

00:36:59.340 I go, Pat, Pat, we have an opportunity.

00:37:02.440 We've got to make a decision right this second.

00:37:03.920 We just got word from Joe Biden.

00:37:08.240 He is willing to step down from the nomination, fake a health issue, say he wants to take care of his son, whatever BS he comes up with.

00:37:16.000 He's willing to step down under one scenario and one scenario only.

00:37:20.740 Michelle Obama's not in.

00:37:22.100 We've got nothing else to go to here.

00:37:23.540 You could make a switch right this second for Kamala Harris.

00:37:28.760 She can be the nominee.

00:37:30.040 Joe Biden steps down.

00:37:32.040 She could be the nominee.

00:37:34.840 Do you pull the trigger on that decision?

00:37:39.120 Let me give you one other piece of evidence here.

00:37:41.200 They both have the same set of policies attached to them, right?

00:37:47.440 They've been in the same administration.

00:37:48.900 Yeah.

00:37:50.060 What is the biggest weakness, though, when you talk about Joe Biden?

00:37:54.320 We just talked about him maybe pooping on stage for the past hour.

00:37:58.100 Okay?

00:37:58.460 Yeah.

00:37:58.860 All right?

00:37:59.360 Yeah.

00:37:59.600 His biggest weakness to voters, despite all of his terrible policies, is his age.

00:38:04.760 Right.

00:38:04.940 You would eliminate that problem completely.

00:38:07.320 Yes, you'd have the word salad problem, but you're not getting any better than that with

00:38:10.600 Joe Biden anyway.

00:38:11.400 No, that's for sure.

00:38:12.280 And you'd have a candidate in, what, her 50s?

00:38:15.180 Yeah.

00:38:15.640 And now, all of a sudden, Donald Trump's the one that's approaching 80.

00:38:18.720 You've got identity politics going for you.

00:38:21.000 You've got a person who can imagine what will be unburdened by what has been right.

00:38:28.900 So that's a plus.

00:38:30.420 That's a plus.

00:38:31.180 You're going to hear it every day.

00:38:33.020 You're going to hear that a lot.

00:38:34.380 For four years.

00:38:34.960 Mm-hmm.

00:38:35.740 And you'll hear incredible information about school buses.

00:38:42.240 Right?

00:38:42.820 Right.

00:38:43.300 Right?

00:38:43.720 I mean, there's a lot of upside here.

00:38:45.540 And who doesn't love a yellow school bus?

00:38:47.940 I mean, they're incredible.

00:38:50.560 No.

00:38:51.600 No.

00:38:52.960 Now, you could listen to that and be like, God, how could you put her at the top of your

00:38:56.080 ticket?

00:38:56.300 And I understand that.

00:38:57.220 Yeah.

00:38:57.660 But all of these things-

00:38:59.220 Now, if I say no, does Joe stay?

00:39:00.840 Joe stays.

00:39:01.400 That's your only other option.

00:39:02.200 So Joe stays or Kamala's your nominee, you switch it out right now.

00:39:05.420 So just who has a better chance to win?

00:39:08.020 Yeah.

00:39:08.380 Right?

00:39:09.840 Man.

00:39:10.460 And Gavin Newsom's not an option.

00:39:11.940 Gavin Newsom's not an option.

00:39:13.620 Joe will only step down because he loves Kamala so much, he wants Kamala to take it.

00:39:18.340 What about Richard Gephardt?

00:39:18.760 Is Richard Gephardt an option?

00:39:20.080 You could put him as the VP.

00:39:21.520 You could put Dick Gephardt as the VP if you could.

00:39:23.380 Okay, under those circumstances, Kamala running for president, Richard Gephardt, VP, I'm in.

00:39:29.880 Yes.

00:39:30.340 I make the switch.

00:39:31.100 I think I do.

00:39:32.200 Yeah, I think I do.

00:39:32.740 I think if I really am in this situation, I think I'd make that switch because you would

00:39:36.340 lose the age thing.

00:39:37.860 Yeah.

00:39:37.960 You'd gain other problems, but they're all problems that Biden has.

00:39:40.980 Yeah.

00:39:41.280 Right?

00:39:41.500 Like, yeah, she can't talk.

00:39:43.180 He can't talk.

00:39:44.400 She'd be able to walk across the stage, though.

00:39:46.900 Yeah.

00:39:47.180 You know, she wouldn't fall asleep during the debate.

00:39:50.320 Right.

00:39:50.500 Like, I mean, at least you'd have some things.

00:39:53.340 Plus, you'd get fawning media attention about how she's the first black woman president for

00:39:58.320 five months.

00:39:59.880 I mean, I think it would improve your chances.

00:40:03.140 I don't think it would hurt your chances.

00:40:05.620 I don't think so.

00:40:06.780 I mean, she's terrible.

00:40:07.760 Believe me.

00:40:08.800 Very much so.

00:40:09.780 But she'd have at least maybe some shielding away from some of these problems in that she

00:40:13.700 didn't have full control of them.

00:40:15.380 I don't know.

00:40:15.900 I think I'd do it if I were the devil.

00:40:17.420 And she's unburdened by what has been.

00:40:20.780 Oh, yeah.

00:40:21.320 That's big.

00:40:22.500 That's huge.

00:40:24.860 The Glenn Beck Program.

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00:41:32.640 Pat and Stu for Glenn today.

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00:41:36.060 How much have American attitudes changed since 1985?

00:41:40.960 So in the last 40 years, we have a new poll that might give us some indication of that.

00:41:46.700 Get to that in one minute.

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00:42:58.620 New study out.

00:43:00.400 This was done at the University of Chicago.

00:43:02.780 And they found that Americans broadly support LGBTQQIA2 plus people living as they wish.

00:43:13.380 Who doesn't support that?

00:43:15.820 Go ahead and live how you want.

00:43:17.220 Would anybody say, no, you must live the way I want you to?

00:43:21.480 Would anybody say that?

00:43:22.520 I don't know.

00:43:23.260 Not many.

00:43:23.600 If you want to do it, I suppose there's a few people that would say that.

00:43:26.660 It's usually the complaints typically have to do with that stuff being, you know, the drag queen story hours, right?

00:43:34.620 Like that stuff being inflicted on children is where there seems to be lines for people.

00:43:39.480 Yes.

00:43:39.840 Yes.

00:43:40.520 And there should be those lines, right?

00:43:42.700 Don't leave our kids out of it.

00:43:44.740 Leave the kids out of it.

00:43:46.580 But in 1985, 72% of American adults said sexual relations between adults of the same sex were always or almost always wrong.

00:43:58.760 72% opposed.

00:43:59.660 72% in 1985, almost 40 years ago.

00:44:04.220 What is that number today?

00:44:06.820 If you had to guess, what would you?

00:44:08.300 I would probably guess 15%.

00:44:11.520 A little bit higher than that, actually.

00:44:14.080 It's 28%.

00:44:15.680 That's actually surprising.

00:44:16.940 28%.

00:44:17.380 Mm-hmm.

00:44:19.540 In 1985, 64% of people of Americans said they'd be very upset if their child was gay or lesbian.

00:44:29.280 Now, 14%.

00:44:31.940 So, very much closer to what you thought on the other question.

00:44:37.360 In 1985, 51% said they favored laws protecting gay and lesbian people from job discrimination.

00:44:45.000 That seems low.

00:44:46.860 Even in 1985, should anybody be discriminated against in the workplace?

00:44:51.840 So, I'm sorry, you can't have the promotion.

00:44:53.880 You're gay?

00:44:54.720 Like, I mean, I...

00:44:55.440 That's...

00:44:56.280 Yeah.

00:44:56.920 Right?

00:44:57.260 Because that's what you would be protected against.

00:44:59.160 Or, I'm sorry, you can't have this job because you're Catholic or whatever.

00:45:03.960 Sure.

00:45:04.080 I mean, those things are wrong, and we've always known that.

00:45:06.280 Yeah, I would think that.

00:45:08.060 But maybe that's not true in these polls.

00:45:09.820 Apparently not.

00:45:10.520 Only 51% in 85 favored laws.

00:45:14.880 In the latest poll, 77% do.

00:45:17.620 Which still seems somewhat low to me.

00:45:19.320 Because discrimination on any basis, you would think would be wrong in the eyes of Americans.

00:45:26.480 And it's still...

00:45:27.040 I mean, look, there's not a lot of things that 80% of Americans agree on.

00:45:30.720 True.

00:45:30.860 So, I suppose that is still a lot.

00:45:33.420 But I would have guessed a little higher on that one, I would say.

00:45:36.540 Now, they say that for trans support, it's a little bit different.

00:45:41.580 The numbers are lower for trans support.

00:45:44.260 Hell yeah.

00:45:44.960 But I'm not sure how you define support, you know.

00:45:50.160 Okay.

00:45:51.120 Because that's an important question.

00:45:54.040 Do they give you the text of the question on this one?

00:45:57.100 I'm looking here.

00:45:58.860 I don't...

00:45:59.600 Let's see.

00:46:00.120 Those questions show that there's some of the levels of acceptance just aren't as high for trans people as non-binary.

00:46:05.620 As they are for gay men and lesbians.

00:46:08.860 About one in four Americans said, for example, that they'd be very upset if their child was transgender or non-binary.

00:46:15.320 Nearly twice as many who said they'd feel the same way about a gay child.

00:46:20.740 That makes sense to me, as far as what the American people would think.

00:46:24.840 You know, I...

00:46:26.020 And, you know, some of these things just are changes over periods of time.

00:46:30.800 But some of it, I think, is...

00:46:33.520 Like, I think there's a major line between the L and the G and the T, right?

00:46:41.320 And that line...

00:46:43.540 And I think the reason why Americans have such an issue with the T part of this particular equation is that the T requires us to participate in something that's not true, right?

00:46:57.560 The T is, okay, you're saying you're a man and you're definitely a woman, or vice versa, and you're demanding that I participate in that falsehood, right?

00:47:08.360 That is a really heavy ask for someone.

00:47:11.320 Sure is.

00:47:11.920 You're saying, I have to say, even though I know you're a man, I have to say, actually, you're a woman.

00:47:19.360 I have to lie.

00:47:20.160 Because that's how you identify.

00:47:21.480 Because that's how you identify.

00:47:22.620 Yeah.

00:47:22.780 You still have the same body parts, but now you're just identifying as something else.

00:47:28.240 Right.

00:47:28.700 Now, this is unlike the L and the G.

00:47:32.840 You know, a couple of gay friends, good individuals, they really are gay.

00:47:41.700 It's not like a man-woman thing where, like, he's saying he's a woman, but he's actually a man.

00:47:45.760 No!

00:47:46.240 He really likes the dudes.

00:47:47.740 Like, that's his thing.

00:47:48.880 You know, what are you going to do?

00:47:50.400 What are you going to do?

00:47:50.940 I might not be my thing, but what you're asking me to do in that situation is say, look,

00:47:56.380 he's making choices that don't involve me, and they are accurate.

00:48:02.120 He's made those choices, right?

00:48:03.620 That's what you're asking me to do.

00:48:05.380 With the transgender part of this, you're asking me to, you're compelling speech out of

00:48:13.140 me that I know isn't true.

00:48:15.200 I can't go down that road, and I don't think Americans largely will.

00:48:20.400 Yeah.

00:48:20.460 Like, that's a line I feel like, you know, people won't cross.

00:48:23.140 Though I will say, you know, foundational things like men and women are women used to

00:48:30.300 be things we didn't usually lose.

00:48:32.540 Like, you don't lose sight of foundational things like that.

00:48:35.900 And I do think we are at a period now where that stuff disappears really quickly.

00:48:40.840 I mean, you're talking about these polls over a 40-year period.

00:48:43.420 Let us not forget that we currently have Joe Biden as the President of the United States.

00:48:48.040 The previous president was Donald Trump.

00:48:50.840 The president before that was a Democrat who opposed gay marriage.

00:48:57.000 That is how recently this stuff has happened and how fast we've moved.

00:49:01.820 Yeah.

00:49:02.220 You know, this is a...

00:49:03.720 Yeah.

00:49:04.160 Happened fast.

00:49:04.860 This has happened really quickly.

00:49:07.080 Yeah.

00:49:07.340 And so, and where I think a 40, 50-year change on something like this is pretty understandable

00:49:11.800 for a society, whether it's right or wrong.

00:49:13.840 Most of that change has happened in the last, what, when was gay marriage legalized?

00:49:18.220 Was it 2014, 2015?

00:49:20.320 That sounds about right, yeah.

00:49:21.560 It was in there.

00:49:22.160 It's only been 10 years.

00:49:23.720 But once that happened, the floodgates were opened, right?

00:49:28.660 And now we're asked to do all of this other stuff that, like you said, we don't necessarily

00:49:35.420 want to do.

00:49:36.080 Like, admit that a man is a woman and a woman is a man if that's not backed up by biology.

00:49:41.920 And you can't even, apparently, identify what's a woman if you're not a biologist.

00:49:48.340 And those things, that's a bridge too far for most of us.

00:49:52.380 Sorry, go ahead.

00:49:53.220 And we resist that.

00:49:55.940 Yeah.

00:49:56.580 Look, I don't...

00:49:58.160 There's a libertarian appeal to the American people that was successful with gay marriage,

00:50:04.060 for example.

00:50:04.700 Yeah.

00:50:05.060 Which was basically like, look, you know, it's not affecting you.

00:50:08.460 You can't legislate love.

00:50:08.700 You can't...

00:50:09.020 Whatever.

00:50:09.620 It's not involving you.

00:50:11.020 You're not involved in that at all.

00:50:12.600 I am involved in every transgender person.

00:50:15.380 Every single time.

00:50:16.720 You're involved in it.

00:50:17.620 You don't think you're involved in it.

00:50:18.680 You're involved in it.

00:50:19.380 Because they are telling you, you need to say something.

00:50:22.480 They are compelling speech out of you that you know to be untrue.

00:50:26.120 So you are involved in every one of those.

00:50:27.620 It's not like gay marriage.

00:50:29.700 You can't make a libertarian appeal to each individual.

00:50:34.000 You can make a libertarian appeal to society and say, as I would say right now, you shouldn't

00:50:39.420 have...

00:50:39.820 You shouldn't be discriminated against.

00:50:41.920 You shouldn't be beaten up in the streets.

00:50:44.900 All the obvious things.

00:50:46.840 Yeah.

00:50:47.600 You know, people...

00:50:48.680 Even if they make choices like this that are, you know, very strange in some ways to

00:50:54.220 society and might indicate issues, mental issues that was...

00:51:00.160 I mean, it was very well recognized by a psychiatrist for a very long time as an issue

00:51:06.200 that was afflicting people.

00:51:07.820 We're going another direction on that.

00:51:09.680 Like, you can make a direct...

00:51:10.660 You can make an argument that society should set up rules that people can do this and all

00:51:16.280 that.

00:51:16.540 But you can't set up rules that make me participate in the lie.

00:51:21.320 I know what the truth is in these particular situations.

00:51:24.300 I know what a man is.

00:51:25.100 I know what a woman is.

00:51:25.780 I know the definition.

00:51:27.100 I don't need...

00:51:28.080 You know, Matt Walsh made the movie.

00:51:29.780 What is a woman?

00:51:30.400 That one was easy for me to answer.

00:51:31.760 I didn't need to watch the movie.

00:51:33.060 I knew.

00:51:35.300 I mean, that's not something he was really trying to do with the movie.

00:51:37.440 But, you know, get the point.

00:51:38.340 The question was not difficult for every single person in the audience.

00:51:42.740 Everyone knows what a woman is.

00:51:44.520 And that, of course, was the point of the movie.

00:51:47.620 Yeah.

00:51:47.720 Everyone knows and they won't admit it.

00:51:50.860 And the experts he talked to were baffled and stumped by it.

00:51:55.200 Mm-hmm.

00:51:55.500 Couldn't define a woman.

00:51:56.760 Incredible.

00:51:57.160 Yeah, it's unbelievable.

00:51:58.140 By the way, June 26, 2015 was the Obergefell decision in the Supreme Court.

00:52:04.500 So that's really...

00:52:05.100 Hasn't even been 10 years.

00:52:05.840 Not even been 10 years.

00:52:06.940 And do you have the gay marriage?

00:52:09.480 Was that one of the polls that you had there?

00:52:12.300 Was gay marriage in that list?

00:52:13.440 Well, they put it this way.

00:52:17.080 While 80% say they somewhat or strongly approve of gay and lesbian people living as they wish.

00:52:23.080 To me, that would include marriage.

00:52:25.800 So 80% of us are on board with that.

00:52:29.020 It drops to 67% when asked about transgender and non-binary people.

00:52:33.780 And I think we covered pretty well why that is.

00:52:36.180 Yeah, I think that's true.

00:52:37.080 And I don't know.

00:52:39.520 Live as they like.

00:52:40.840 I don't know if that...

00:52:41.520 Maybe that includes marriage.

00:52:43.100 I suppose it does.

00:52:44.080 I mean, marriage is a...

00:52:44.860 Look, marriage is a...

00:52:46.540 Is multiple things.

00:52:48.580 It is a government institution that sorts you into particular tax brackets and things like that.

00:52:56.300 That, to me, is largely meaningless.

00:53:00.620 I get nothing out of my marriage from the government.

00:53:05.160 Like, when I look at my marriage as an individual, I am married to a person.

00:53:10.560 The value of that marriage, 0% of it comes to me from the government.

00:53:15.500 I think you'd agree with that, right?

00:53:16.640 Like, I don't...

00:53:17.300 I didn't get married for the tax benefits or penalties.

00:53:20.440 That's not...

00:53:21.320 I don't care that some, you know, selectman has me on a piece of paper and is giving me a quote-unquote marriage license.

00:53:28.700 By the way, marriage license is introduced into our society to stop interracial marriage.

00:53:34.000 Just in case anyone was wondering, you know, people like, you know, George Washington were married without a license.

00:53:42.420 Like, that's, like, a new thing that came across to, you know, largely in the progressive era to stop things like interracial marriage they wanted to stop at the time.

00:53:52.940 So, again, like, marriage in another completely different sense is something that you engage with your wife, your husband, in front of God.

00:54:03.440 Like, that's the thing that means something to me.

00:54:05.580 The government aspect of this means zilch to me.

00:54:08.640 I don't...

00:54:09.040 I literally don't care if they recognize my marriage.

00:54:11.840 Other than the fact that, like, there's issues with, like, inheritance and things like...

00:54:17.220 That's the only value you get is just them recognizing some legal arrangement, which you could theoretically do another way.

00:54:23.560 But when it comes to actual marriage, Pat, I've got the poll here.

00:54:27.440 So, 1996, should gay marriage be valid?

00:54:34.280 Uh, 68% say no.

00:54:38.260 That falls...

00:54:38.780 In 96?

00:54:39.580 In 96.

00:54:40.440 Okay.

00:54:40.840 That falls and falls and falls and falls and hits the breaking point in around 2010, where it's about 50-50.

00:54:49.240 And now it is 71-28.

00:54:51.740 The other way, right?

00:54:52.600 Yep, the other way.

00:54:53.460 71% that they should be valid.

00:54:56.140 Um, the question, the exact text of the question, this is from Gallup.

00:54:59.440 Do you think marriages between same-sex couples should or should not be recognized by the law as valid with the same rights as traditional marriage?

00:55:06.560 So, again, that progression, 1996, only 27% said they should be valid.

00:55:11.320 Now it's 71%.

00:55:12.800 So, like, you have a lot...

00:55:14.360 It's a complete turnaround.

00:55:15.100 Complete turnaround.

00:55:15.660 You see the same thing with pot?

00:55:17.180 Uh, that one has happened around about the same pace where it was completely rejected 30-40 years ago.

00:55:23.440 Now is overwhelmingly accepted.

00:55:25.580 And by the way, you know, you don't get to 71% approval without, you know, pretty large approval from Republicans, right?

00:55:33.160 Like, this is...

00:55:33.780 Yeah, that's not all Democrats, that's for sure.

00:55:35.660 Yeah.

00:55:36.020 I mean, it's been...

00:55:37.280 It's one of those issues that was a massive issue, if you remember, in 2004.

00:55:42.200 Now we're going back 20 years.

00:55:44.420 2004, this was the issue that Karl Rove, I mean, famously, came up with a strategy to put a bunch of gay marriage constitutional amendments

00:55:57.360 and other bills, you know, on the ballot in, particularly in swing states, to try to get people activated to go to the polls to vote for George W. Bush,

00:56:06.800 who was very much in question whether he was going to win that election.

00:56:09.120 I mean, I don't remember, you know, making, really looking at it closely enough, but my vibes were I thought Kerry might very well win that.

00:56:16.120 I mean, it was very close.

00:56:17.820 It came down to just Ohio.

00:56:19.520 And it was one of those situations where it felt like Bush was really on the ropes.

00:56:23.880 And now, so that was the strategy, was this would animate conservative voters who will come, they'll vote against gay marriage, and they'll, okay, I'll throw Bush on there, too.

00:56:37.520 That was the strategy back then.

00:56:39.340 20 years later, this is completely opposite.

00:56:42.480 Yeah.

00:56:43.160 That would backfire on you big time now.

00:56:44.780 Oh, yeah.

00:56:45.220 I mean, no one would even try it.

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00:57:57.420 Pat and Stu for Glenn today.

00:58:12.220 I like this, Stu.

00:58:13.280 After decades of progress by LGBTQ plus advocates, more Americans than ever identify as LGBTQ plus.

00:58:22.440 Huh.

00:58:23.060 Yeah.

00:58:23.760 Huh.

00:58:24.260 You know, that must be because they were so scared to come out in 2014.

00:58:29.460 That's exactly right, Stu.

00:58:30.340 They were just terrified to tell the media because of all the negative attention they'd get.

00:58:36.280 Now, we've always had this number of people who identify this way.

00:58:41.980 It's just that now they're more comfortable coming out.

00:58:44.540 Right.

00:58:45.140 It's totally natural that like 48% of young people are transgendered.

00:58:50.860 That's just the way it's always been.

00:58:53.440 Yeah.

00:58:54.060 48% of people were always dressing in the opposite clothing and wanting their genitals cut off back in 1971.

00:59:02.060 But they just couldn't say it.

00:59:03.780 I mean, how stupid is this?

00:59:05.360 It is so ridiculous.

00:59:07.000 We know that this is a, it's a social contagion right now.

00:59:10.660 That's what it is.

00:59:11.280 It's been made to be cool, I think.

00:59:14.960 And you get a lot of attention this way.

00:59:17.380 Especially for younger people.

00:59:18.760 Yes.

00:59:19.200 I'm very influenced by this.

00:59:20.160 Well, 7% of adults identify as some fitting into somewhere of the LGBTQQIA2 plus realm.

00:59:28.900 Okay.

00:59:29.140 7% of adults.

00:59:30.280 But when you're talking about Gen Z, it's 20%.

00:59:34.200 Come on.

00:59:35.260 Come on now.

00:59:36.060 Come on.

00:59:36.360 That doesn't happen just naturally.

00:59:38.080 These are two, I think, two phenomenon happening at the same time.

00:59:41.280 One is the social contagion thing that you're talking about.

00:59:43.460 Where people, you know, the easy example of it is they watch a bunch of TikTok videos and convince themselves they have the thing, right?

00:59:53.520 Like they all have Tourette's and they all, you know, like they all have every new ailment.

00:59:59.300 And it also happens with stuff like gender identity where they, you know what?

01:00:03.900 I actually think I'm non-binary.

01:00:05.880 I've never really fit in with these categories.

01:00:09.120 And, of course, the categories are just like defining, they're not defining as what body parts they have.

01:00:14.200 They're defining them as like these weird stereotypes of what gender should be.

01:00:17.820 I got news for you.

01:00:18.700 When I was growing up, there was a lot of kids, a lot of girls played sports and were really good at it.

01:00:23.460 And we didn't say they didn't fit into the gender norms of women.

01:00:27.360 We just said they're, the term was tomboy.

01:00:30.380 Right.

01:00:30.760 But, like, it didn't mean they were boys.

01:00:33.300 It meant they were girls who liked playing sports and, like, hung out with the guys.

01:00:37.020 Like, it's part of femininity.

01:00:41.020 Femininity.

01:00:41.580 I'm almost going to do this because of that.

01:00:42.980 It's like, it's part of it.

01:00:44.260 It's like a different part of it.

01:00:46.020 But it's part of it.

01:00:47.140 They're just girls.

01:00:48.080 They're just doing their thing.

01:00:49.640 So, that was part of it.

01:00:51.400 I think the other part of it, which is a little bit undersold in these polls, is that a lot of people who are completely straight, straight as an arrow,

01:01:00.600 the girl who is 100% going to date and marry a man that is going to be their lives, have decided to themselves,

01:01:10.980 well, if I found the right woman, I don't judge people like that.

01:01:15.700 I'm actually bisexual.

01:01:16.980 And they've kind of come up with this other category, which doesn't mean they actively hook up with both sides.

01:01:24.980 It's just this, like, open-ended, I'd do it if, look, I just haven't, I've never met a girl I wanted to do that with, but if I did, I would.

01:01:34.500 I am not against it.

01:01:35.940 Right?

01:01:36.100 I'm not judging.

01:01:37.500 And that sort of, like, I'm not judging thing equals bisexual for them when it's not.

01:01:43.280 Right?

01:01:43.360 Like, that's what's boosted that number to 15% now.

01:01:46.220 I think so.

01:01:46.880 You notice it's the one that rises the most.

01:01:48.600 I think that's because of that.

01:01:49.460 By far.

01:01:49.740 Look, prove it.

01:01:50.820 That's what I was going to say.

01:01:51.720 You're bisexual, prove it.

01:01:53.360 Date a girl for three years, then I'll believe you.

01:01:57.940 That's my, it's my new standard.

01:02:00.420 Prove it.

01:02:00.740 Shut up.

01:02:02.120 Shut up.

01:02:02.720 On your 25th wedding anniversary to a man, you'll still be saying you're bisexual.

01:02:08.380 It's nonsense.

01:02:09.580 All right.

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01:03:51.360 Back Ray, Stupor Gear for Glenn today, 888-727-BECK.

01:03:56.060 We were just talking about the survey of sexual proclivity of people in general, but especially young people.

01:04:04.780 They've also just studied whether or not our kids are getting involved in, I guess, vices like they used to.

01:04:15.080 Really interesting polling.

01:04:16.540 Ryan Birch posted this, and I think it's fascinating.

01:04:19.980 Go back to 1976.

01:04:23.260 Yeah.

01:04:24.620 The percentage of high school seniors that had consumed alcohol passed a couple of sips.

01:04:30.920 Not like a sip you had once when you were a kid or something.

01:04:33.500 But like, I've consumed alcohol in some way.

01:04:36.840 You've been drinking.

01:04:37.680 You've been drinking.

01:04:38.860 High school seniors.

01:04:40.320 That number in 1976 is 92%.

01:04:44.260 Wow.

01:04:44.980 I believe that, though.

01:04:46.240 Really?

01:04:46.760 That was just the thing people did?

01:04:48.580 Yeah.

01:04:48.820 I mean, that's really high.

01:04:50.100 I wasn't a high school senior yet, but I mean, there was a lot of drinking involved.

01:04:53.560 A lot of drinking.

01:04:54.340 Yeah.

01:04:56.020 92%.

01:04:56.420 That number has fallen quite a bit.

01:04:59.420 When, so by the mid-90s, it's down to about 80%.

01:05:04.060 The number today, 53% of high school seniors.

01:05:09.940 It's down like 40 points?

01:05:10.740 Yeah, basically almost cut in half.

01:05:12.160 40%.

01:05:12.740 That's amazing.

01:05:13.960 Really amazing.

01:05:14.840 So 92% in the 70s, down to 53% today.

01:05:18.140 This is among high school seniors.

01:05:19.320 Huh.

01:05:20.540 And smoking, you might think, okay, you know, we've sort of, as a society, changed our view

01:05:26.980 on smoking in a big way.

01:05:29.400 So you'd expect this one to drop, but it's dropped significantly.

01:05:32.560 In the 70s, it was 76% of high school seniors were smokers or had been smoking.

01:05:39.980 That number now is 17%.

01:05:42.500 Wow, that's huge.

01:05:44.580 Really?

01:05:45.260 I mean, that's...

01:05:45.900 That's huge.

01:05:46.700 So there's a lot of news you could say is bad.

01:05:48.680 Those are really good positive trends.

01:05:50.460 Like you mentioned, though, society's really changed on smoking.

01:05:53.340 Yes.

01:05:53.460 You know, you're almost a pariah if you smoke.

01:05:57.220 Yeah.

01:05:58.220 And, I mean, we changed the way, like at restaurants.

01:06:02.000 I remember fighting this battle back in the early 2000s, late 90s, early 2000s about restaurants

01:06:07.760 and whether you could smoke in a restaurant.

01:06:09.880 Yes, yeah.

01:06:10.360 I hated it so much.

01:06:11.560 But, you know, it was people's right.

01:06:13.880 Well, the restaurant's going to go out of business.

01:06:16.160 No, they're not.

01:06:17.240 They don't sell cigarettes.

01:06:19.160 They sell food.

01:06:20.000 Right.

01:06:20.260 They're not going to go out of business.

01:06:20.980 They're not going to...

01:06:21.420 And they didn't, by the way.

01:06:22.960 You might notice...

01:06:23.980 There are still restaurants?

01:06:24.460 They didn't.

01:06:25.120 There still are restaurants.

01:06:26.340 Yeah.

01:06:26.620 Look, I would argue from a personal liberty standpoint that the business owners should

01:06:31.200 be able to make the decisions themselves.

01:06:33.000 Right.

01:06:33.160 That being said, I do really like when they make the decision of no smoking.

01:06:36.320 I do, too.

01:06:37.140 I really do.

01:06:37.800 I do, too.

01:06:38.320 I don't think she'd come from the government.

01:06:39.640 I don't...

01:06:40.280 A lot of municipalities did make that decision, though.

01:06:43.000 They did it.

01:06:43.980 They stuck with it.

01:06:44.940 We survived it.

01:06:46.120 Yeah.

01:06:46.460 And look, the only...

01:06:46.980 And here we are now.

01:06:47.620 The only real line there, I think, as far as quote-unquote going out of business, we're certain

01:06:50.940 bars, casinos, things like that.

01:06:53.620 They're not going to go out of business, but you really are adding a lot to the people

01:06:58.340 who want to go in there and go to a smoky bar.

01:07:00.760 Maybe they want to smoke in a bar.

01:07:02.640 You're making them go out.

01:07:03.680 And if you're in...

01:07:04.720 One of the first cities that did this was New York City.

01:07:07.380 It's freaking cold there a good chunk of the year.

01:07:09.760 Going outside and smoking sucks for these people.

01:07:12.400 Now...

01:07:12.600 It does.

01:07:13.220 Look, the attitude changed.

01:07:15.220 I think it would have changed anyway.

01:07:17.240 I think most businesses would have decided to make this decision over this period of time

01:07:22.300 without the laws.

01:07:23.420 But I will say, it's one of those laws that I don't like the way it happened, but I do

01:07:27.660 like the effects of it.

01:07:28.460 Yeah.

01:07:28.640 I don't like the smoke in the area.

01:07:30.500 Me too.

01:07:31.200 But the places that don't do that...

01:07:33.860 Like, we went to a bowl game in Louisiana a couple years ago.

01:07:38.860 Oh, okay.

01:07:39.240 Yeah.

01:07:40.300 And...

01:07:40.780 What team was playing in it?

01:07:42.680 I'm trying to think.

01:07:43.860 Do you remember?

01:07:45.240 Was it the BYU Cougars?

01:07:46.860 Oh, really?

01:07:47.400 Yeah.

01:07:47.700 I'm surprised that you would go...

01:07:48.740 Versus the University of Alabama, Birmingham, Gophers, or whatever they are.

01:07:52.940 That's a game that everyone's been talking about for years.

01:07:54.740 Oh, my gosh.

01:07:54.780 When those two teams get together, you can throw all the record books out.

01:07:57.920 Oh, yeah.

01:07:58.200 You don't need the record books in that situation.

01:08:00.280 But we were looking for a place to eat afterwards in the beautiful city, the lovely city that we

01:08:05.920 were in.

01:08:06.320 And they had...

01:08:08.320 The only place we could find that was available that we happened to be near was this casino.

01:08:14.600 So we went into it looking for a restaurant in the casino.

01:08:17.600 But this is where they smoke and they drink.

01:08:20.200 And it was so weird to go into a place where there's still smoking involved and food involved.

01:08:27.320 I mean, the smoke flavored your food.

01:08:31.260 You could taste the smoke, but not necessarily the hamburger that you were eating.

01:08:37.180 Oh, man.

01:08:37.600 I mean, it's a different world.

01:08:40.240 It is.

01:08:40.960 It is.

01:08:41.520 And I do like the effect of the no smoking in restaurants.

01:08:45.360 But you're right.

01:08:46.440 I mean, it did take away liberty.

01:08:48.420 It did.

01:08:48.940 From the bar owners and the restaurant owners.

01:08:51.060 Yeah.

01:08:51.480 I agree.

01:08:52.440 So that's one of those situations where really society has just changed its view on it.

01:08:58.420 I mean, people would bring up, well, you know, what about vaping?

01:09:01.840 What about pot?

01:09:02.860 And those things obviously have increased from back in the...

01:09:07.320 Vaping was at 0% in the 70s.

01:09:09.320 But it's only 26% now.

01:09:12.240 I mean, really, the youth vaping epidemic kind of argument is a bit overblown.

01:09:19.660 It's a bit overblown.

01:09:20.500 It's a problem because it's largely a problem because vaping really is a product designed

01:09:26.940 to be a step off from smoking, right?

01:09:33.040 Like, as a product, if you are a smoker and you switch to vaping, that is an improvement.

01:09:39.280 Some people will go, no, it's just as bad.

01:09:41.240 I don't agree.

01:09:42.320 Looking at all the science on it, I think it's a vast improvement.

01:09:45.460 So from the perspective of a smoker switching to vaping, I think it is a really positive

01:09:51.780 change if you happen to be especially a heavy smoker.

01:09:54.980 If you are a child that does nothing and you go from nothing to vaping, that's not a good

01:09:59.520 change at all.

01:10:00.880 So, but I mean, I would imagine, and this is not covered in the poll, that the percentage

01:10:07.040 of people who have smoked highly overlaps with the people who have vaped, right?

01:10:14.980 Like, this is not an additional 26%.

01:10:17.100 Like, the 26% of people who have vaped in the last year are probably, I would say, I would

01:10:24.880 argue, completely overlap with the 17% of people who smoke.

01:10:29.240 I mean, I just think that's just another thing that's going on.

01:10:32.000 Like, so I don't think that you're adding a few percent of people, but I don't think

01:10:35.500 it's highly significant.

01:10:37.400 By the way, 7% of high school seniors say they've used heroin.

01:10:41.380 So that's a little high.

01:10:43.360 7% have used heroin?

01:10:45.680 Heroin.

01:10:46.800 Wow.

01:10:47.140 No, I think about this sometimes, and I always think about it in the context of our friend

01:10:52.440 Jeff Fisher, host of Chewing the Fat with Jeffy on your program as well.

01:11:01.140 I could not even begin to understand how to acquire heroin.

01:11:07.420 I would have absolutely-

01:11:09.980 I think that's a good thing.

01:11:11.240 Yeah, I think so too.

01:11:12.280 But like, if I wanted it, I would have no idea how to get it.

01:11:17.740 Well, except you go to Jeffy.

01:11:19.400 I would go to Jeffy.

01:11:20.420 And you get some sage advice from him on that.

01:11:23.180 Yes.

01:11:23.440 He would either hand it to me from his pocket, or he would know a guy.

01:11:31.040 Yeah.

01:11:31.280 But in all seriousness, like, and I, you know, maybe that shows that I've been, you know,

01:11:37.360 coddled in life or whatever, but like, not even begin to understand.

01:11:41.140 Like, I don't know.

01:11:42.720 Like, do you just search the internet for something like that?

01:11:45.980 Like, do you go on-

01:11:47.400 Maybe the dark web.

01:11:48.340 The dark web.

01:11:49.200 Like, I know Silk Road was a thing at one point.

01:11:51.080 Maybe.

01:11:51.300 Yeah, but like, can you imagine, can you imagine the scenario?

01:11:54.640 Let's just picture Pat Gray driving around downtown Dallas, just opening up windows.

01:11:59.220 Excuse me, sir.

01:12:00.060 Hey, do you have any smack?

01:12:01.820 What?

01:12:02.340 Do you know where the local heroin outlet would be located?

01:12:07.780 I know.

01:12:08.800 It's like, you're doing basically the Grey Poupon commercial, except you're looking for heroin.

01:12:16.340 You don't even know how to do it.

01:12:17.600 Like, I don't even know how these things happen.

01:12:19.520 No.

01:12:19.760 You know, I guess you get into that world and you meet somebody, you have a drug dealer,

01:12:24.020 you got a guy who knows a guy.

01:12:26.600 Yeah.

01:12:26.720 But like, I don't, how does this stuff start?

01:12:30.360 I don't know.

01:12:31.060 Especially for 7% of young people like that.

01:12:33.480 Yeah, that's crazy.

01:12:34.720 Hard to believe that 7%.

01:12:36.320 That's way too high.

01:12:38.520 That's way too high.

01:12:39.300 It should be basically zero.

01:12:40.700 I mean, heroin is-

01:12:41.680 You think heroin is something you're escalating to.

01:12:44.300 Yeah.

01:12:44.780 Right?

01:12:45.020 Like, you don't start out, forget that.

01:12:46.400 You don't start out like Hunter Biden.

01:12:48.700 Right?

01:12:49.140 Like, your first time with drugs is not crack off of a hooker.

01:12:53.960 Like, that's not day one.

01:12:55.680 Like, it takes you time to-

01:12:57.720 I would assume even Hunter Biden in high school wasn't doing crack.

01:13:01.760 Like, you have to-

01:13:02.800 It takes a lot of work to elevate to get to that level.

01:13:06.400 Right?

01:13:06.520 Yeah.

01:13:06.920 I would think so.

01:13:07.760 Yeah.

01:13:08.000 Right.

01:13:08.260 You know, they've always called pot, like, the starter drug, right?

01:13:11.860 Yeah.

01:13:12.160 You start with marijuana.

01:13:12.920 The gateway drug, right?

01:13:13.740 You get in, you start like, you get that for a while, then you get offered something else.

01:13:17.420 You give that a whirl, that gets addictive, then you give the next thing a whirl.

01:13:21.640 Pretty soon you're dropping acid and mainlining heroin.

01:13:24.300 Yeah.

01:13:24.840 Yeah.

01:13:25.140 But who-

01:13:26.140 I guess.

01:13:26.480 You don't-

01:13:27.000 I mean, by the end of high school, you've already gotten this entire transition?

01:13:31.880 No, that's crazy.

01:13:32.620 That's a lot.

01:13:33.500 That's a life.

01:13:34.320 That's one-

01:13:35.040 Yeah.

01:13:35.660 That turns-

01:13:36.220 I mean, I-

01:13:37.000 That's scary, really.

01:13:38.640 Legit scary.

01:13:39.160 For high school students?

01:13:40.600 Yeah.

01:13:40.740 Yeah.

01:13:40.880 That's scary.

01:13:41.840 The rest of those statistics are really good and really promising, I think.

01:13:45.340 That's, you know, we don't talk about that enough, the positive changes among the youth.

01:13:50.020 I mean, half is probably too many to be on alcohol, but, I mean, it's not 92% anymore.

01:13:57.460 I know.

01:13:57.820 And look, half is, I mean, think about, like, you know, fast times at Ridgemont High.

01:14:02.920 Go back to, like, you know, there's the cultural movies of that era.

01:14:06.280 It was just accepted.

01:14:07.240 Accepted.

01:14:07.320 You're going to do it.

01:14:08.060 Yeah.

01:14:08.200 It's like every time you were alone on the weekend, that's what-

01:14:10.920 I mean, I don't-

01:14:11.540 Again, I would think to myself, you know, watching that movie years ago, thought to myself, that

01:14:17.580 was not my experience in high school.

01:14:19.040 Like, there were parties in high school, but, like, it was really-

01:14:21.560 I don't remember, you know, I was also just probably not invited to them, but, like, it

01:14:26.400 was not my impression at all that 80% of my class was drinking in senior year in high

01:14:31.740 school.

01:14:32.020 I could be completely wrong on that.

01:14:33.460 Maybe I just, you know, again, it definitely wasn't cool, so it's very possible that they

01:14:37.840 intentionally did not invite me to such events.

01:14:39.900 But, like, the fast times at Ridgemont High, my impression of that, well, it's like that

01:14:45.840 was obviously an exaggeration of the situation.

01:14:49.940 I don't know.

01:14:50.600 Looking at these numbers, 92% of people were doing it.

01:14:53.260 Maybe it wasn't that much of an exaggeration.

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01:16:51.840 Welcome.

01:16:52.780 It is Pat and Stu for Glenn today.

01:16:54.740 Let's go to Denise in Kansas.

01:16:57.900 Hey, Denise, you're on the Glenn Beck program with Pat and Stu.

01:17:00.940 Hey, good morning, boys.

01:17:02.400 Morning.

01:17:02.720 Hey, I got to tell you something.

01:17:04.060 With your, back in the 70s when we had like 90% of us seniors that were drinking, you forget

01:17:10.960 we could drink at 18.

01:17:12.980 That is true.

01:17:13.700 We could go out and purchase 3-2 beer at 18.

01:17:17.900 Yeah.

01:17:18.300 So, and we had the 18 disco bars and all sorts of fun stuff.

01:17:21.820 18 disco bars.

01:17:22.900 Of course, 93% of us were drinking.

01:17:25.320 It was legal.

01:17:26.520 You make a very good point here, Denise.

01:17:29.200 Thanks, Denise.

01:17:29.380 And I appreciate it.

01:17:30.260 I will say this.

01:17:31.000 I don't know if kids cared that much when the drinking age went up to 21 to legally drink.

01:17:36.200 Right.

01:17:36.620 I don't think there's...

01:17:37.240 Right?

01:17:37.260 And just obtained it illegally.

01:17:38.820 Right.

01:17:39.120 And I will say this, looking at the stats, we have every year basically broken down.

01:17:44.640 The age was changed in 1984.

01:17:47.920 That's when that passed to raise the drinking age to 21 nationally.

01:17:51.780 The drop-off between 76 and 84 was about 4%.

01:17:57.380 So, it went from 92 to 88.

01:17:59.720 Okay.

01:18:00.160 So, it dissuaded 4% of kids.

01:18:02.400 I mean, and honestly, now that I'm looking at it a little more closely, I would say it

01:18:05.940 did not drop...

01:18:06.720 In 84, there was no, like...

01:18:08.320 You'd think there'd be a big drop-off in 1984 because it raised the age.

01:18:11.860 It did not drop off at all.

01:18:13.580 Really, until...

01:18:14.900 I'm looking at 1994, it hit about 88.

01:18:19.300 So, it was really above 90.

01:18:20.320 Oh, about 10 years later.

01:18:21.140 Yeah.

01:18:21.720 Holy cow.

01:18:22.140 Until the mid-90s.

01:18:23.980 And then started falling off from there.

01:18:27.440 Really, the dramatic drop-off didn't really start until...

01:18:34.180 I mean, it was still above 75% all the way till 2005.

01:18:39.340 Wow.

01:18:39.460 So, the drop-off has been really...

01:18:41.180 I mean, recently has been significant.

01:18:43.420 Now, they're just addicted to, like, social media and eating Tide Pods.

01:18:47.140 So, you know, the interests have changed quite a bit, Pat.

01:18:50.960 I wonder if it...

01:18:52.120 Social media has anything to do with it.

01:18:54.540 Yeah, maybe.

01:18:55.040 I don't know.

01:18:55.480 I mean, I do think there...

01:18:56.840 And I think this was something I remember from my childhood being that there was sort

01:19:00.940 of a...

01:19:01.720 There was a counter-cultural element of not drinking that was active, at least in my school

01:19:08.880 and in my friend group, that was like, eh, God, these losers are going out drinking.

01:19:12.700 I'm not doing that.

01:19:13.460 You know, we were just sports nerds.

01:19:15.320 Like, all we wanted to do was play sports all the time.

01:19:17.120 So, there was a bit of that that was going on.

01:19:19.580 And I do see that now much more when it comes to social media.

01:19:24.820 There's a lot of this, like, you know, sober January type stuff and a lot of people going

01:19:30.660 without alcohol.

01:19:31.440 It's become a sort of counter-cultural trend among a lot of people in their 20s and 30s

01:19:38.680 who are just like, I'm not doing this anymore.

01:19:40.300 For health reasons or also just because, like, I mean, what are the benefits?

01:19:44.380 I will say, like, especially as you get older, and I used to all have a few drinks here and

01:19:47.220 there, I feel so terribly now when I drink or after when I drink that, like, it's so...

01:19:55.500 It's just the desire to do it at this point is just very low.

01:19:58.940 Yeah.

01:19:59.200 You know, occasionally I'll have a group of friends.

01:20:00.880 We'll go out and have a couple drinks.

01:20:01.880 I'm not saying, you know, I abstain.

01:20:06.400 I wouldn't say I'm going to enter the Prohibition Party nomination process at any time soon,

01:20:11.040 which, by the way, is still a real party.

01:20:12.840 America's oldest third party.

01:20:14.740 Wow.

01:20:15.660 Fascinating.

01:20:16.360 Fascinating story that we don't have time to get into at this point.

01:20:18.600 But the bottom line is, I think, you know, over time, unless you're really dedicated to

01:20:24.180 it, it winds up fading out of your life because it just gets harder.

01:20:28.720 You know, anything that's difficult, I want to stop doing.

01:20:31.880 You know, there's this movement on the right, especially, where it's like, you know, the

01:20:34.540 hard thing is the thing worth doing.

01:20:35.780 And that's great for other people.

01:20:37.440 But for me, I totally agree.

01:20:40.040 Hard times make hard men and hard men, you know, make easy times and all that stuff.

01:20:45.060 I agree with that whole thing.

01:20:46.600 I just kind of want to sit on the side and sleep a little bit.

01:20:50.140 That's beautiful.

01:20:50.860 You know?

01:20:51.200 Beautifully put.

01:20:51.720 But I think you're an inspiration to us all, Stu.

01:20:54.160 Thank you.

01:20:54.620 I appreciate that.

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01:23:51.820 You know, I've been critical at times in the past of Alex Jones and some of the things that he has said.

01:23:59.600 Really?

01:24:00.180 Done.

01:24:00.460 Yeah.

01:24:00.680 I don't remember.

01:24:01.260 It's happened a few times.

01:24:02.320 Really?

01:24:02.740 Yeah.

01:24:03.940 It's happened.

01:24:05.500 However, what's going on with him right now?

01:24:08.500 Now, if this is absolutely accurate, you know, the federal government trying to shut him down.

01:24:14.560 He did this emergency broadcast last Saturday and said that the feds were there to shut him down.

01:24:21.800 He had to spend the night at the studio.

01:24:23.300 I don't know how this stopped him from shutting him down, but apparently he spent the night at his studio so that they wouldn't.

01:24:30.280 I'm not sure how it all worked.

01:24:32.580 No, we should have a full disclosure.

01:24:33.580 You guys are buddies now.

01:24:34.740 Buddies.

01:24:35.320 Yeah, we're very close now.

01:24:36.540 We're like this.

01:24:37.100 You're tight.

01:24:37.640 You had him on the show, though, actually.

01:24:38.660 I did have him on the show.

01:24:39.720 Yeah.

01:24:40.240 I had him on the whole show.

01:24:41.840 Oh, really?

01:24:42.380 Yeah.

01:24:42.660 A couple weeks ago.

01:24:44.820 It's probably been a month or so by now, but it was fascinating.

01:24:49.040 And so I'm a little bit stunned that, I mean, first of all, he got kicked off of almost all his forums, right?

01:24:59.920 He was knocked off of YouTube.

01:25:01.920 All social media.

01:25:02.860 Yeah.

01:25:03.360 He was stopped on Twitter, which Elon Musk just reversed fairly recently.

01:25:10.800 But he still had Infowars, and now he says they're trying to shut that down.

01:25:15.740 Well, now he's apparently agreed to sell it and then take the proceeds from that sale and pay down the debt that he owes to the Sandy Hook family.

01:25:25.900 Now, he owes a few dollars to them.

01:25:27.600 A couple of dollars.

01:25:29.840 A hundred dollars?

01:25:30.940 Two hundred dollars?

01:25:32.300 Ever so slightly north of that.

01:25:34.320 Okay.

01:25:34.880 $1.5 billion.

01:25:37.760 It's so stupid.

01:25:39.660 Well, it's unconstitutional.

01:25:41.060 It's unconstitutional to hit somebody with a fine like that, with a judgment like that.

01:25:47.040 It's asinine.

01:25:47.740 Under what?

01:25:48.000 And it's insane, and it's unconstitutional.

01:25:51.440 Cruel and unusual punishment, basically.

01:25:52.940 Yeah, right.

01:25:53.460 Right.

01:25:54.040 I mean, you can't find a guy who has made, I don't know what he's made in his life.

01:25:58.960 He told me on the air, he's never made more than, I don't know, a few million dollars, which is good money.

01:26:04.420 Oh, yeah.

01:26:04.760 Right?

01:26:05.060 But he's not a billionaire.

01:26:06.620 No, no.

01:26:07.260 He's not even close to that.

01:26:08.120 He's not a hundred millionaire.

01:26:10.040 No.

01:26:10.140 There's no way he's got the kind of money that they just assessed to him.

01:26:14.740 He can't pay a fine of $1.5 billion.

01:26:18.120 It's stupid, and everyone knows.

01:26:20.120 Everybody knows it.

01:26:21.440 Now, of course, the goal was never to collect the money.

01:26:24.620 No, it's to shut him down.

01:26:25.620 It was to shut him down and destroy him.

01:26:27.220 I mean, really, he was one of the first test cases for the lawfare approach when it comes

01:26:33.660 to going after someone who you have distaste for in the media, right?

01:26:38.780 He really was.

01:26:39.960 And it seems to be working.

01:26:41.100 Yeah.

01:26:41.580 Now, look, he's admitted that he's made major mistakes in this realm.

01:26:47.700 Yeah.

01:26:47.960 He's talked about them.

01:26:48.760 And I think he did.

01:26:49.700 I mean, I don't know why he thought that the Sandy Hook thing was a hoax.

01:26:55.380 I don't either.

01:26:56.060 I mean, it was silly.

01:26:57.460 Well, I mean, I don't know.

01:26:58.520 Maybe he's changed on this, but at that period, he believed everything was a hoax.

01:27:01.460 It felt like.

01:27:02.200 It did feel like it.

01:27:02.300 I mean, every single big story that came out, he had some justification as to why the government

01:27:06.120 did it.

01:27:06.980 And, you know, like, this was his shtick.

01:27:08.480 It was his business.

01:27:10.100 Mm-hmm.

01:27:10.420 And I can understand, especially if you-

01:27:14.480 I didn't like what he was saying.

01:27:15.620 No.

01:27:16.060 But does he have the right to say it?

01:27:17.540 And beyond this, this is a separate thing.

01:27:19.800 I, like, the justification for him being shut down, being fined a billion dollars or

01:27:26.540 whatever, is basically the very real mental torture these poor families were put through

01:27:35.460 after this.

01:27:36.840 And hang with me for a second on this, because there's this, I'm starting this off saying

01:27:44.120 this, because it is really legitimately real that these families were tortured online by

01:27:50.040 people who believed this was a hoax.

01:27:52.000 Yeah.

01:27:52.280 If you've ever read the stuff said to them, the stuff that's happened to them at their

01:27:56.060 homes, how many times they've had to move, like, they legitimately went through hell after

01:28:03.080 going through the worst day any parent has ever gone through.

01:28:06.900 Like, I, the amount of sympathy I have for these families is incredibly high.

01:28:12.760 It's immense for me, too.

01:28:13.380 I mean, I think it, it is among the worst things that's ever happened in this country.

01:28:19.020 The Sandy Hook Day.

01:28:20.240 And do you blame Alex Jones for that?

01:28:21.940 No!

01:28:22.740 Right.

01:28:23.080 He did not shoot anyone this day.

01:28:25.540 Right.

01:28:25.900 And while he was-

01:28:26.860 Nor did he call the families and harass them.

01:28:29.280 No!

01:28:30.340 Right, like, yes, he went on the air and gave theories and did interviews with people who

01:28:35.160 believed it was fake.

01:28:36.260 Yeah.

01:28:36.440 And was, should any moron been able to tell that he was wrong on that from day one?

01:28:43.640 Sure.

01:28:43.980 I think so.

01:28:44.500 I don't think it would have been hard and was hard for either of us or probably 99% of

01:28:50.960 the audience to figure out that, you know, yeah, that was a really terrible day.

01:28:54.300 Again, to bring you back there a little bit, this is, these are, what, seven-year-olds?

01:28:59.840 I mean, it is among the worst things, and I really, like, and maybe it's because, especially

01:29:07.220 when a lot of this was, a lot of the aftermath was going on with this, I had kids around that

01:29:11.980 age.

01:29:12.320 I mean, they're a little older now.

01:29:13.280 But, like, the idea that you send your kids to school in an idyllic community and some

01:29:20.200 person steals, kills their mom, first of all, then steals their weapons, goes to school,

01:29:27.600 really not, like, you know, an insane person goes to school and shoots them all.

01:29:32.980 I mean, I can't, it's beyond comprehension how terrible this is.

01:29:37.060 And then, four, what the internet does to take this and turn this into a conspiracy theory

01:29:41.160 and to, you know, to be furthered and talked about by Alex Jones, something he's apologized

01:29:45.540 for, is really, really bad.

01:29:48.540 However, Alex Jones didn't call these people and harass them.

01:29:54.360 Alex Jones didn't do those things.

01:29:56.560 Right.

01:29:56.820 He didn't do them.

01:29:58.880 People should be held responsible for their own actions.

01:30:02.100 The people who should be sued are the people.

01:30:04.220 Well, but they heard him say it on the air.

01:30:05.540 Yeah, but that's, I'm sorry.

01:30:06.820 I hear all sorts of things on the air.

01:30:08.560 Yeah, right.

01:30:09.340 Am I, to be held responsible for every lie that I hear on the mainstream media?

01:30:14.020 If I act on every BS thing the mainstream media says, is that my fault or is that their fault?

01:30:21.060 It's my fault.

01:30:22.300 I'm an individual.

01:30:23.220 I make these decisions myself.

01:30:24.700 Every human being knows harassing a family who, even if you think they're lying, you can't harass people.

01:30:37.520 It's illegal.

01:30:38.780 It's a crime.

01:30:39.720 And I never hear a bit of interest from the media.

01:30:44.260 I'm sure these families would love to know who was harassing them.

01:30:47.480 But I never hear a bit of interest from the media to find the people who actually made the calls, who actually care, were actually doing the harassing.

01:30:56.400 I never hear word of interest about that.

01:30:58.460 It's all about this guy who, in addition to all of this, and look, I will admit to not being a daily Alex Jones listener or ever, but I don't think this was his main thing.

01:31:14.860 It's not like he was on the air every day talking about Sandy Hook.

01:31:18.460 He was doing that about 9-11.

01:31:21.720 I would assume 9-11 victims would have a much better case against him than do Sandy Hook victims.

01:31:30.020 From what I understand, reading about the story, he talked about it a few times because it was a big story in his world.

01:31:36.860 But it wasn't the main thrust of his show.

01:31:40.240 No, I don't think it was.

01:31:41.060 I don't think he was the main source of these rumors.

01:31:44.360 I don't think he was the main source of these claims.

01:31:46.420 Sometimes I think he entertained things that he absolutely should have known were false.

01:31:52.760 But like a billion and a half dollars, it's insanity.

01:31:56.840 It is.

01:31:57.160 It's insanity.

01:31:58.620 And the fact that they just, like they wanted this guy shut down for a bunch of different reasons, and they've utilized this path of lawfare to do it.

01:32:08.060 And I don't know.

01:32:09.380 I mean, look at, obviously Donald Trump is the most recent example that is in everybody's mind.

01:32:13.960 I think quite clearly a lot of the same tactics were used here.

01:32:19.140 And I don't know.

01:32:20.600 I think now it's going to start coming from both sides.

01:32:23.520 I don't think opening up this Pandora's box was a good idea.

01:32:29.960 No, probably not.

01:32:31.700 Probably not.

01:32:32.440 And I think he'd take it back if he could.

01:32:34.600 He said that, I think.

01:32:35.980 A little late.

01:32:36.520 Yeah.

01:32:36.680 One of the lawyers in the case, one of the lawyers for the families, said this about the judgment.

01:32:46.960 Speech is free, but lies you have to pay for.

01:32:53.360 That's not accurate.

01:32:55.500 It sounds cute, but it's not true.

01:33:04.180 I mean, if you, telling a lie about this, and first of all, you have to define, what is the lie here?

01:33:11.000 Did he believe this at the time?

01:33:12.320 And I think he did.

01:33:13.420 I think he believed it at the time.

01:33:14.920 I don't think he does anymore.

01:33:16.280 Yeah.

01:33:16.680 But at the time, I think he believed it.

01:33:18.180 So is that a lie at the time?

01:33:19.960 Right.

01:33:20.120 Like, is it illegal to just be an idiot?

01:33:24.160 I mean, I mean this sincerely.

01:33:25.820 Like, if you believe everything is a false flag, and you get fooled by something on the internet that you now have been turned around on.

01:33:34.240 Yeah.

01:33:34.520 And no longer believe is true.

01:33:37.260 Yeah.

01:33:37.840 I mean, I.

01:33:38.680 The thing about free speech is that you don't have to protect lovely speech.

01:33:44.580 Right.

01:33:45.000 Yeah.

01:33:45.360 That's, everybody agrees.

01:33:47.160 That's fine.

01:33:48.200 Yeah.

01:33:48.400 That's free.

01:33:49.200 What comes in, what makes it really hard is when somebody's saying something you don't like.

01:33:55.860 Yeah.

01:33:56.120 Like this.

01:33:56.820 Right.

01:33:57.000 And something that's actually, you know, hurtful to people.

01:34:00.580 Do you have the right to say it?

01:34:02.500 Do you have the right, I mean, as long as you're not threatening them, making terroristic threats, do you have the right to say it?

01:34:09.960 I mean, that's what we have to, those are hard choices, but that's what the, that's what the First Amendment is about.

01:34:16.060 Yeah.

01:34:16.240 And look, you should be able to, I mean, this is, I, again, I think this is one of the worst things that's ever happened in the country.

01:34:22.900 I can't think of a worst day.

01:34:24.620 It's terrible.

01:34:25.080 You know, obviously we've had terrorist attacks and civil war and it's, you know, slavery.

01:34:30.040 There's a hundred things that would compete.

01:34:31.800 But it's talking about an individual horrible incident of waking up one day and going through that.

01:34:36.240 So it's the, it's beyond impossibly horrific.

01:34:41.060 And to add on to that, the fact that you have to go through years of harassment over it as if you were faking your own kids.

01:34:50.460 I can't imagine how horrible that must be.

01:34:54.060 That being said, the American people, some broadcaster has the right to be wrong about it.

01:35:02.100 Yes.

01:35:02.420 Right?

01:35:02.700 Like, I, again, I mean.

01:35:04.100 And that's what it boils down to.

01:35:05.340 He was wrong.

01:35:05.880 He was wrong about it.

01:35:06.860 He was wrong.

01:35:07.400 He's admitted he's wrong.

01:35:09.120 And again, going back, if I remember right, correct me if I'm wrong on this, Pat.

01:35:13.260 I hope I don't get sued for being wrong.

01:35:15.200 But correct me if I'm wrong.

01:35:16.400 Most of the stuff on this particular incident was stuff he had people on who believed it and interviewed them over it.

01:35:25.280 And maybe he didn't give much of a pushback.

01:35:28.500 I don't know.

01:35:28.880 You know, but, like, the person who gets legal penalties for this are the people who freaking did the harassing.

01:35:38.940 You know, just like, you can't just sue the gun companies for people who go shoot people.

01:35:44.460 You hold people responsible for the crimes they commit.

01:35:49.520 When they commit crimes, hold them responsible.

01:35:52.760 You can't just say, well, I.

01:35:54.240 What a concept.

01:35:54.640 Can you imagine?

01:35:56.660 What could we have said about, like, Steve Scalise was shot.

01:36:00.180 And they tried to kill, kill 10% of elected Republicans on a baseball field one day.

01:36:07.860 Yeah.

01:36:08.040 And this person who did it was a Bernie Sanders campaign volunteer.

01:36:11.720 OK, I know we've all memory hold this incident, but the stuff that led up to the person doing that, that was in both the mainstream media, but also on places like MSNBC and every every left wing podcast that would drive a person to the level where they went to kill every Republican on a baseball field they could find.

01:36:36.800 Are you sure you want this world?

01:36:42.000 You sure you want a world in which every broadcaster that made a claim that we find in that person's social media feed later on gets blamed for it?

01:36:52.900 How do you how can you talk about anything?

01:36:55.900 How could there be any news broadcast in a world where that's reality?

01:37:00.360 And, like, they're just taking a person like Alex Jones and be like, oh, well, he's crazy and we don't we really don't like him.

01:37:06.300 Same thing with Donald Trump.

01:37:07.440 Yeah, well, no, we don't want that world.

01:37:09.600 But Donald Trump's really bad.

01:37:10.680 We don't want him to be president again.

01:37:12.140 So it's justified.

01:37:13.340 No, it's not.

01:37:14.320 He posts mean tweets, though.

01:37:15.540 He posts mean tweets.

01:37:16.400 We don't like him.

01:37:17.300 We don't want that thing.

01:37:18.840 So the Constitution doesn't matter.

01:37:20.900 We don't want it really badly.

01:37:22.720 We really don't want it.

01:37:24.000 You have to understand.

01:37:24.760 We don't want that thing to happen.

01:37:26.860 Like, that's not enough.

01:37:29.340 Triple eight, seven, two, seven, B.E.C.K.

01:37:31.360 Pat and Stu for playing.

01:37:32.100 Come on.

01:37:34.560 All right.

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01:38:43.300 Tell you what else is fascinating to me.

01:38:54.340 There are a couple of interesting people in the news right now.

01:38:57.380 Alex Jones being one of them.

01:38:59.040 The other is Russell Brand.

01:39:02.020 Am I mistaken in remembering that Russell Brand was a super obnoxious leftist,

01:39:09.320 almost to the point of like socialist and like a despicable human being, was he not?

01:39:16.400 Do I remember that incorrectly?

01:39:19.640 You do not.

01:39:20.980 In my recollection, it's very similar.

01:39:23.100 He is a guy who's done a complete 180, it seems, right?

01:39:26.840 Yeah.

01:39:26.980 I mean, not just politically, but also apparently spiritually.

01:39:29.880 He was just baptized.

01:39:31.140 I guess he just, he's a Christian now and a fairly newly minted Christian, but it sounds

01:39:38.940 like he's, you know, really sincere about that.

01:39:41.000 I don't know.

01:39:41.360 I hope it's all sincere.

01:39:43.740 But he just said, if you care about democracy, I don't know how you could do anything other

01:39:51.720 than vote for Donald Trump.

01:39:54.680 That is amazing to me.

01:39:56.700 That's incredible.

01:39:57.340 Was this guy not huge into Obama?

01:39:59.480 Yeah, I think he was a massive, I mean, it was just a few years ago, right?

01:40:02.420 Wasn't he married to Katy Perry?

01:40:04.220 I think he was.

01:40:04.920 Yes.

01:40:05.200 I think so.

01:40:06.000 He was a massive left-wing person.

01:40:09.640 Wow.

01:40:09.800 He was very, very left.

01:40:11.680 Now, I don't know.

01:40:12.600 I mean, I think, you know, there...

01:40:13.800 What happened there?

01:40:14.640 How did this happen?

01:40:15.760 Well, I mean, his life has been taken and turned upside down, right?

01:40:18.600 I mean, and his career has been destroyed.

01:40:21.800 I mean, it's been completely destroyed.

01:40:23.380 Now, you could argue he's done some things to justify that.

01:40:26.720 I mean, he was certainly a Me Too era victim.

01:40:31.780 He, of course, the word victim's a little weird there, because I'm just saying it because

01:40:36.120 he believes that.

01:40:37.520 He says he was, he denied all charges on that one.

01:40:42.140 He denies doing anything against anybody's will, right?

01:40:44.860 Yes.

01:40:45.320 He says he was very promiscuous.

01:40:47.240 He did some things he regrets.

01:40:48.500 He admits to that.

01:40:49.240 He treated people poorly.

01:40:50.360 Yeah.

01:40:50.720 But he did not do anything illegal.

01:40:52.900 Now, of course, the accusations against him were very much of illegal behavior.

01:40:55.820 He was very much accused of terrible, terrible things, you know, including all the way up

01:41:05.040 to rape.

01:41:05.920 So...

01:41:06.320 Oh, wow.

01:41:07.000 So, but he denies that.

01:41:08.640 I don't know.

01:41:10.020 And he hasn't been convicted of anything, right?

01:41:11.960 Nope.

01:41:12.600 I don't think he's even been charged.

01:41:13.660 Has he even been charged?

01:41:14.360 He was accused of it.

01:41:16.440 He was...

01:41:17.160 Brief rundown of the accusations against him.

01:41:19.480 He said he raped one woman in her Los Angeles, in his Los Angeles home.

01:41:27.640 Another claimed he sexually assaulted her after she was hired by him on a project.

01:41:31.680 Third woman claimed she was groomed by Brand when she was just 16 before he forced oral

01:41:36.880 sex on her.

01:41:37.940 Fourth accuser claimed that Brand sexually assaulted and committed physical and emotional

01:41:41.340 abuse against her.

01:41:42.680 So that's at least part of it.

01:41:43.780 There's been others that have come out with varying versions of this.

01:41:46.680 There was a lot of stuff.

01:41:48.540 Now, he, of course, denies it.

01:41:50.160 And we don't know.

01:41:51.460 We don't know.

01:41:52.060 The 16-year-old one does...

01:41:54.940 If my...

01:41:55.500 Again, I'm going to say my recollection here.

01:41:56.940 I'm not 100% sure of this.

01:41:58.080 My recollection of this is he basically did...

01:42:01.920 There was a relationship there with someone that young.

01:42:06.140 Now, she claims other things happen.

01:42:08.460 I don't know at 16 if there's a...

01:42:10.860 I don't know what the laws are in Britain for the consent.

01:42:13.320 To me, it doesn't seem like 16 is really old enough to consent.

01:42:17.260 But I know some states...

01:42:18.780 The majority of states, I think, in the United States, it's around that age.

01:42:21.620 So, you know, I don't know.

01:42:23.260 But that's not a good thing.

01:42:25.940 Long story short, if those accusations are true, you could certainly argue...

01:42:30.540 That he deserves it.

01:42:31.580 Deserves prison time, obviously.

01:42:33.340 Yeah.

01:42:33.920 But he's not...

01:42:34.700 Again, he's not been charged with anything.

01:42:36.080 No, he's not going to prison for it.

01:42:37.660 He's just...

01:42:38.020 It's been one of those things.

01:42:38.980 The accusations came out and his career goes away.

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01:44:33.380 We were talking about Russell Brand and whether his transformation is 180-degree turn here.

01:44:43.000 Is that real?

01:44:44.680 Or is it just what he's doing because, you know, he lost his livelihood the other way

01:44:51.260 and now this is a good way to make up for it?

01:44:54.020 I don't know.

01:44:55.140 It's fascinating because his political transformation, I would say, predates the Me Too sort of teardown

01:45:04.440 of his career, right?

01:45:06.420 Does it?

01:45:07.340 A little bit.

01:45:08.420 I think he became sort of like anti, like Great Reset.

01:45:14.380 And he was talking about that type of stuff before all of these accusations happened.

01:45:19.300 And then his accusations happened.

01:45:21.220 His career really is destroyed.

01:45:23.060 He gets kicked off of all the social media stuff, the whole deal.

01:45:27.120 And then he later on has this sort of awakening to Christianity.

01:45:30.980 Now, like, I think there's a cynical worldview to take, an earthly view from a cynical perspective

01:45:40.560 to say that, like, okay, this guy went from having everything to having nothing

01:45:44.720 and this is all very convenient, right?

01:45:48.460 Like, now that he's in this place where he has no audience anymore because everyone

01:45:53.120 who used to like him now hates him, he could come out and say, oh, now I'm voting for Trump

01:45:58.840 and now I'm a Christian and all of these things.

01:46:03.220 I really, really hesitate to embrace that view, particularly on the Christianity thing

01:46:08.060 because, look, miracles are possible.

01:46:09.380 This is the most commonplace they would be seen, I believe.

01:46:15.700 Like, I mean, like, someone, so I really hope it's true.

01:46:20.280 Like, I really hope it's a real conversion and I don't have any reason to believe otherwise.

01:46:27.360 You know, I mean, there's a cynical humanity part of you that has to, like, think about that stuff

01:46:32.360 when someone has this big of a conversion.

01:46:34.180 But, like, people really do have these conversions.

01:46:36.480 This is not a story that's been told once.

01:46:39.600 He'll probably never be in another Hollywood movie.

01:46:41.720 Yeah, that's over.

01:46:42.340 Again, right?

01:46:42.960 That's over.

01:46:43.460 I mean, they've got to be done with him.

01:46:45.340 Yep.

01:46:46.100 I mean, and look.

01:46:46.580 To be talking about Trump like this.

01:46:48.020 Yeah.

01:46:48.400 Oh, that's.

01:46:49.760 And.

01:46:50.080 But that's brand new, even, just at some level.

01:46:52.720 Like, the political stuff sort of started happening, but he was still, like, one of those

01:46:55.960 guys that's a liberal, but I'm against wokeness.

01:46:58.040 Like, he was, like, that type of guy for a while.

01:46:59.500 Yes, I remember that aspect.

01:47:01.100 Yeah.

01:47:01.320 Yeah.

01:47:01.500 I remember that phase.

01:47:02.660 And I don't remember a pro-Trump thing really happening until now.

01:47:07.860 Not recently.

01:47:08.240 Right?

01:47:08.580 Like, yeah.

01:47:09.220 Yeah.

01:47:09.500 The Christianity thing, I think, is the most interesting, because that is something that

01:47:12.580 obviously, I mean, mass murderers have had conversions.

01:47:16.660 Yeah.

01:47:16.800 And had their lives changed this way.

01:47:19.140 They have.

01:47:20.200 And, I mean, terrorists.

01:47:22.500 When we've talked to people who were former terrorists.

01:47:25.060 And if you're a Christian, you absolutely believe in this.

01:47:27.880 Oh, yeah.

01:47:28.860 Right?

01:47:29.280 You, to doubt it, I guess, is legitimate, but who are we to doubt it?

01:47:34.880 Right.

01:47:35.240 It's also obviously been, happened and not been true before.

01:47:39.400 People have faked it.

01:47:40.120 I'm sure.

01:47:40.540 For sympathy.

01:47:41.200 And that's obviously happened, but that's on them.

01:47:43.300 That's not on us.

01:47:44.080 Right.

01:47:44.380 That's on them.

01:47:45.120 Right.

01:47:45.620 To deal with the consequences of doing something like that, which I might tell you is not a

01:47:50.100 good idea long-term.

01:47:51.840 Here's what he said about it.

01:47:53.180 People are so cynical about the increasing interest in Christianity and the return to

01:47:57.740 God, but to me, it's obvious.

01:48:00.460 As meaning deteriorates in the modern world, as our value systems and institutions crumble,

01:48:06.420 all of us become increasingly aware that there is this eerily familiar awakening and beckoning

01:48:11.840 figure that we've all known all our lives within us and around us.

01:48:17.560 That's great.

01:48:18.340 I think that's great.

01:48:19.580 And look, it's...

01:48:20.460 And it's true.

01:48:21.080 And it's powerful, right?

01:48:22.500 It is.

01:48:22.760 Coming from a person who...

01:48:24.560 Forget the worst of the accusations, which are massively criminal.

01:48:29.340 Mm-hmm.

01:48:30.520 By his own admission, he's done a million terrible things, right?

01:48:33.260 Yeah.

01:48:33.320 Like, for a person who could come from that and be saved, to use that term, is incredible.

01:48:38.780 That's great.

01:48:39.680 That's freaking great.

01:48:41.260 And I really hope it's real and honest and lasts forever and no reason to believe it

01:48:47.960 isn't.

01:48:48.260 I mean, you see the...

01:48:50.580 I mean, you can do this without a political...

01:48:52.740 Well, you could be cynical and you could see reason that it might not be because he...

01:48:56.720 You know...

01:48:57.140 Yes.

01:48:57.580 He could be trying to convince us that, oh, he's had this amazing transformation to Christianity

01:49:01.800 and now he's no longer...

01:49:03.520 He would never do any of these things now.

01:49:05.520 Right.

01:49:05.740 And of course, like, he...

01:49:08.260 We are on the right, and I'm sure this doesn't apply to you who happens to be listening,

01:49:14.100 but we are on the right a bit desperate for celebrity attention.

01:49:17.200 It is for sure.

01:49:17.920 It's a little embarrassing.

01:49:19.280 Give us somebody other than Donnie and Marie, please.

01:49:22.340 By all that is holy, can you give us somebody?

01:49:25.540 We'll take basically anybody.

01:49:28.160 We'll take Russell Brand.

01:49:29.280 Russell Brand, give him to us.

01:49:30.460 Russell Brand is like, I mean, shooting for the stars a lot of times.

01:49:34.140 I mean, like, at least we're like, hey, wait, this person was a child star on a forgotten

01:49:39.560 sitcom in 1978?

01:49:41.500 We love that person.

01:49:42.940 He's on Fox News 14 times a day.

01:49:46.280 Like, we are a little pathetic when it comes to this.

01:49:48.720 We are.

01:49:49.200 And I...

01:49:50.000 But you can't blame us.

01:49:50.960 We got nobody.

01:49:51.680 We got nobody.

01:49:52.380 I mean, very few.

01:49:53.360 Very few.

01:49:53.960 And usually, you know, there's a lot of the people that, you know, you wind up...

01:49:56.680 Even the big ones that wind up...

01:49:58.000 A lot of times, it's after they have major problems, you find out that they're conservatives.

01:50:02.260 You know what I mean?

01:50:02.980 Like, you know, I could come up with some names, but I'll leave them off for now.

01:50:06.780 The bottom line is that, like, a lot of times, there's this sort of, like...

01:50:10.780 Everyone knows that people who are conservative are targeted unfairly.

01:50:16.820 So, if you are targeted and you believe it's unfairly, who's going to receive your argument?

01:50:23.140 A lot of times, it's conservatives who are going to be like, oh, well, this has happened

01:50:26.680 to me.

01:50:27.180 It's happened to my friend who's a totally good guy and made one joke and was, you know,

01:50:32.420 thrown out of his job.

01:50:33.320 Like, we all have such close relationship to that.

01:50:36.900 We relate very sincerely to it.

01:50:39.700 And, you know, we've all seen what's happened with Donald Trump, who, again, is, you know,

01:50:43.600 he's done some things that, you know, you might not like, but the way that they have

01:50:48.500 manipulated the legal system to try to take him out before his presidential run is something

01:50:52.860 that every conservative aligns with him on.

01:50:55.580 I think it's helped on an enthusiasm situation for a lot of Republicans who are like, really

01:51:04.140 another...

01:51:04.780 Like, I mean, I think people are, they get to a point where they get tired of fighting

01:51:11.560 these battles.

01:51:12.720 You know, I think there's a good, there's a decent appetite.

01:51:15.380 We saw it even in the primaries where more than half of voters in those early primaries

01:51:19.560 didn't vote for Donald Trump, right?

01:51:21.320 Like, there's some appetite for people, not because they don't like Trump, just because

01:51:25.120 they want to move on to something else, you know?

01:51:27.100 And I think there was that appetite at some level, not enough for him to lose, but there

01:51:31.940 was some appetite for that.

01:51:33.780 When you see things like this, where they're trying to throw him in prison for a totally

01:51:39.320 just manipulated lawfare, it winds up bringing people back to the fold.

01:51:45.880 Yeah.

01:51:45.980 As we're talking about, though, transitions and people changing right before our eyes

01:51:53.300 and fairly quickly, how do you feel about John Fetterman lately?

01:52:00.800 It's one of the strangest things I've ever encountered.

01:52:02.940 It's really, I mean, this guy, I didn't like at all.

01:52:08.120 No.

01:52:09.000 I still wouldn't vote for him.

01:52:10.880 No, no, no, no, no, no.

01:52:12.060 But his transition from, you know, hardcore progressive to where he is today has been

01:52:19.920 pretty interesting, I think.

01:52:21.820 The other thing that's happening is it seems that his mental capacity is improving.

01:52:29.260 He doesn't struggle as much with, you know, just putting sentences together.

01:52:34.320 That's great.

01:52:34.920 And that's great.

01:52:35.860 So his health is improving.

01:52:36.640 Yes, his health is improving.

01:52:38.080 And I will say...

01:52:38.960 And we've called it a factory reset on my show.

01:52:41.420 It's like after the stroke, he had a factory reset in his brain and it's changed his mind

01:52:47.080 on some issues.

01:52:48.680 Now, he's not voting that way.

01:52:50.600 So I especially would not vote for him because he continues to vote as a leftist with the party.

01:52:57.380 But the things he is saying, and he's taken a position on, for instance, immigration,

01:53:03.460 that is much closer aligned to conservatives than to Democrats.

01:53:10.620 Also, Israel.

01:53:11.680 Man, he's been one of the strongest voices in Congress on Israel.

01:53:16.040 He's been great on that.

01:53:17.020 He's been awesome.

01:53:18.320 Shockingly.

01:53:19.120 Yeah.

01:53:19.500 He's been shockingly good.

01:53:21.020 So he was just being interviewed on CNN and he was asked about being a progressive.

01:53:27.560 Here's what he said.

01:53:28.900 I want to ask you personally about your own sort of journey, as the kids say.

01:53:36.180 Some progressives have criticized you for being a different senator than you suggested you would

01:53:43.200 be when you were a candidate for Senate.

01:53:45.860 What do you say to that?

01:53:48.800 Well, I wasn't.

01:53:50.300 I was very clear for saying that for years I'm not a progressive and I just identified myself

01:53:55.640 as just a regular Democrat.

01:53:57.980 So it really wasn't any new news.

01:53:59.900 Now, eight years ago, I was a progressive, but the situations changed.

01:54:05.160 And I've been very clear that I didn't leave that label.

01:54:08.040 That label leaves me.

01:54:09.540 And I think it's much more important to be focusing on Donald Trump instead of kinds of

01:54:15.500 purity tests and those kinds of issues.

01:54:17.620 All right.

01:54:18.240 So not totally well because progressivism, he didn't leave progressivism.

01:54:26.520 Progressivism leaved me.

01:54:29.340 So, okay, he's not completely well as far as the speech thing, but that's a lot better

01:54:34.180 than he was doing.

01:54:35.240 That's for sure.

01:54:35.840 So progressivism left him.

01:54:39.760 I think what happens to him, to maybe Bill Maher, to some of these other people that

01:54:45.400 we've noticed a sort of change in rhetoric in over the last few years is that the left

01:54:52.560 has become so extreme that there are certain people who just wake up one morning and they

01:54:58.140 can't go down that road any further with them.

01:55:00.860 They're like, okay, this is too much for me.

01:55:03.440 I can't do it.

01:55:04.180 But yeah, it's happened to several.

01:55:06.320 I mean, like Fetterman, his record as a, I mean, his on record words really did indicate

01:55:13.580 that he was maybe a socialist.

01:55:16.100 Like, I mean, he was really, really far.

01:55:18.060 Seems like even during the campaign, which was what, 2022?

01:55:21.820 Yeah.

01:55:22.380 Wasn't he elected?

01:55:23.000 I think he was elected in 22.

01:55:24.340 Now he's saying there was a transition before that eight years ago.

01:55:27.480 That's what he says.

01:55:28.220 I don't know if that's true.

01:55:29.300 I do remember just going through his record and being like, well, this guy's not even a

01:55:31.920 normal Democrat.

01:55:32.840 Yeah.

01:55:33.200 I did not think he was a normal Democrat.

01:55:34.820 I didn't either.

01:55:35.240 Now, to be clear here, and to your point on the voting record, Heritage Action for America

01:55:40.420 has a scorecard.

01:55:41.420 So a conservative voting record scorecard.

01:55:43.780 The average Senate Democrat gets a 6% from them.

01:55:47.700 Okay.

01:55:47.920 And John Fetterman has a 7%.

01:55:49.920 So that is the sort of hardcore right-wing movement we're talking about here.

01:55:54.500 So the guy is essentially a John Bircher at this point.

01:55:59.240 Right?

01:55:59.880 Right.

01:56:00.380 Like this, I think the difference, it's interesting because the difference between Fetterman,

01:56:05.720 what we thought we were going to get, and what we got is not really in the way that he

01:56:09.700 is voting.

01:56:11.420 No, it's in the way that he's dealing with, he's speaking to the press and things, especially

01:56:16.600 on his role.

01:56:17.240 And I appreciate that a lot.

01:56:18.740 And look, if you can get one good issue out of a Democrat, you celebrate it.

01:56:22.420 Yes.

01:56:22.660 It's very rare that it occurs.

01:56:24.240 And I'll take those two.

01:56:25.140 I'll take it on immigration.

01:56:27.080 I'll take it on Israel because Israel is under such fire right now that they can take any

01:56:32.660 friend they can get.

01:56:33.640 And he's been really strong despite all the opposition.

01:56:37.180 We've had the, we've had, we've played clips of him being followed through the halls of

01:56:41.560 the Congress by left-wing idiots who support Hamas yelling and screaming at him about why

01:56:49.980 he supports genocide.

01:56:51.520 And he stands up to him.

01:56:53.380 Yep.

01:56:53.500 So, so you believe the Russell Brand conversion story?

01:56:58.500 I think so.

01:56:59.540 Yeah.

01:57:00.000 I think so.

01:57:00.380 I think that's where I am.

01:57:01.100 I'm going to say yes.

01:57:02.340 Yes.

01:57:02.700 But I'm, I think so.

01:57:04.160 I think so.

01:57:04.480 I'm hoping so.

01:57:05.420 I hope it's real.

01:57:06.080 I do believe, because I think you're right.

01:57:08.140 I think the, the political transition happened before.

01:57:10.980 Or, and I just, who am I to question his spiritual transition?

01:57:14.980 Exactly.

01:57:15.460 Yep.

01:57:16.180 So, do you believe the Fetterman transition?

01:57:20.160 On these two issues?

01:57:21.420 Yes.

01:57:22.240 And the two issues are border and-

01:57:24.060 Border and Israel.

01:57:25.000 And Israel.

01:57:25.460 Israel, I believe.

01:57:26.320 I'm not 100% sure I believe the border.

01:57:28.540 I think it's real on Israel, though.

01:57:29.920 That's a, I think that's real.

01:57:31.280 Now, again, Democrats used to be pretty supportive of Israel.

01:57:34.260 At least some of them were.

01:57:35.280 So, he's not out of-

01:57:36.140 The Jewish Democrats were, but they don't seem to be now.

01:57:38.820 Yep.

01:57:39.460 So, I don't know.

01:57:40.300 Good for him.

01:57:40.680 Yeah, it's an interesting thing.

01:57:42.180 I will say, shocking.

01:57:43.820 Very.

01:57:44.100 The amount of times that we've featured John Fetterman positively on this program.

01:57:48.360 Shocking.

01:57:49.920 Shocking.

01:57:51.080 More coming up in a minute.

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01:59:32.020 Uh, don't forget, hey, you've got this weekend to have guaranteed delivery by Father's Day for your Kexi cookie box.

01:59:39.980 And if you order the Father's Day box, we still have a few left, but they go really fast.

01:59:44.160 All right, what? Do you still write the things on here, on these cookies?

01:59:47.260 I'm holding a peanut butter crunch cookie right now in my hand, which are, these are freaking delicious.

01:59:51.200 And there's like this little peanut butter cream thing in the middle?

01:59:53.660 Yeah.

01:59:53.900 Oh my God.

01:59:54.300 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:59:54.920 So good.

01:59:55.260 But this says zap it in the microwave for 15 to 20 seconds.

01:59:57.760 Uh-huh.

01:59:58.240 For a fresh out of the oven feel.

01:59:59.680 Okay.

01:59:59.960 This obviously doesn't apply to our cream cookies, as microwaving them will make them look like the Germanic Saxons after the Charlemagne's army was done with them?

02:00:08.600 It does sound like me.

02:00:10.220 What?

02:00:10.400 I must have written that, but it's probably been a while.

02:00:13.140 I mean...

02:00:13.580 But yeah, I think...

02:00:15.100 I...

02:00:15.960 It's either me or my son trying to sound like me.

02:00:20.060 Yeah, yes.

02:00:20.700 I'm not sure which happened.

02:00:21.660 I remember reading something on Kexi, the Kexi cookie website, it was kexi.com, by the way,

02:00:26.720 and it was just referencing communism.

02:00:30.160 And I was like, why?

02:00:33.960 I'm trying to buy cookies.

02:00:35.600 Why am I reading about communism?

02:00:39.140 And that is...

02:00:40.160 It's a very...

02:00:41.100 Because they're American cookies, okay?

02:00:42.420 That's right.

02:00:42.860 They are.

02:00:43.300 Communities did not make these.

02:00:44.600 You won't find that cookie in Moscow.

02:00:48.320 It is...

02:00:48.640 You won't.

02:00:49.240 I don't know that you go to business school to get that approach, but it is a unique approach.

02:00:54.220 Yeah.

02:00:54.420 I will say.

02:00:54.940 And they're freaking delicious cookies.

02:00:56.320 And you can get them for Father's Day.

02:00:57.160 When do you have to order them again by?

02:00:58.540 By Monday.

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02:00:59.920 So...

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02:01:01.180 They're freaking delicious.

02:01:02.040 I highly recommend that.

02:01:02.360 Yes.

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02:01:11.700 I kind of like the...

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02:01:17.940 And also the Elderly Man with a Poor Memory t-shirt is a big seller right now.

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