The Glenn Beck Program - 'American, Beyond Our Means'？

00:00:00.000 The Blaze Radio Network, on demand, Glenn Beck.

00:00:08.200 Exactly 10 years ago this week, all of our lives changed.

00:00:12.040 On Tuesday, our attention, rightly so, was focused on what happened 17 years ago, the week of 9-11.

00:00:20.440 But seven years later, on September 15th, Lehman Brothers collapsed, kicking off the 2008 financial crisis.

00:00:28.460 New York City, again, ground zero for another tragedy.

00:00:33.000 The shockwave reverberated across all of the globe.

00:00:36.580 We were told, and I believe, that the entire financial system of the Western world was on the ropes.

00:00:44.420 The question that we should be asking ourselves this week.

00:00:49.220 One, when it comes to Islamic extremism, are we better or worse than we were?

00:00:55.860 Four, 17 years ago, are we even addressing the problem?

00:01:03.280 Can we even talk about the problem?

00:01:06.620 Two, after a decade of trying to fix the banking system, could this happen again?

00:01:14.500 Have we fixed things or made it worse?

00:01:17.200 Are we even talking about it?

00:01:19.780 Some people say the record amounts of global and corporate debt will trigger the next crash.

00:01:25.760 Some say a global currency crisis is about to explode.

00:01:30.420 And that will be the cause.

00:01:32.820 Others fear that it's protectionism and tariffs.

00:01:35.800 To be honest, all of these things could trigger a next crash.

00:01:39.780 Each scenario has the potential to make what happened in 2008 seem like a slight road bump.

00:01:45.620 Imagine if all of these scenarios happened one domino at a time.

00:01:51.540 It would be a catastrophe beyond anything the world has ever experienced.

00:01:56.640 But I haven't even mentioned the biggest scenario.

00:02:01.760 The most likely scenario.

00:02:04.540 A collapse of the bond market.

00:02:07.060 A collapse of everyone's retirement fund.

00:02:10.680 There are so many scenarios out there and experts are even more worried about something that I really didn't take seriously.

00:02:21.800 I didn't think anyone else was taking seriously.

00:02:25.540 The Depository Trust and Clearing Corporation.

00:02:29.880 They provide clearing and settlement for financial markets here in the U.S.

00:02:34.600 They released a report outlining their number one fear.

00:02:42.500 Their number one fear?

00:02:45.640 Cyber warfare.

00:02:52.080 All of the scenarios I've just laid out are all likely.

00:02:57.660 And on the last one, they're not just a few people worried.

00:03:00.760 A few months ago, the government published a similar report drawing the same conclusions.

00:03:05.940 The number one fear is cyber warfare.

00:03:09.500 These findings came from the Financial Stability Oversight Council, which is chaired by the Secretary of the Treasury.

00:03:16.260 This isn't some kooky, you know, harebrained conspiracy theory.

00:03:21.020 Both the government and private business thinks a cyber attack will be the root cause of a global crash.

00:03:27.360 This is kind of big news.

00:03:29.560 How is this information not being reported all over the country this week?

00:03:35.220 Oh, because Bob Woodward's book is out.

00:03:38.560 The report details how a nation-state cyber attack will begin by targeting what's called systematically important financial institutions.

00:03:47.360 These are banks like the Bank of America, J.P. Morgan, or the bank formerly known as Lehman Brothers.

00:03:53.740 But they can also be giant hedge funds or insurance companies like AIG.

00:03:58.540 The Lehman Brothers' collapse was the first shot of the 2008 crash.

00:04:04.200 And experts are now saying something similar will happen during the next one.

00:04:08.400 The big one, as they're now calling it.

00:04:11.300 A hostile country like China, Russia, or even North Korea would trigger a run on one or multiple systematically important institutions.

00:04:20.300 From there, the global system would begin to unravel just as it did before.

00:04:25.460 But this time, it would happen as a global and corporate debt scheme is at record levels.

00:04:33.220 As global currency crisis brewing, with a trade war escalating, all between the two largest economies in the world.

00:04:43.540 We should probably take a moment and talk about things that are real.

00:04:51.420 Technology is changing.

00:04:54.320 It's changing the world like never before.

00:04:56.740 We are on the cusp of something profound.

00:05:01.220 And it will be profoundly devastating and or profoundly marvelous.

00:05:13.020 Some of it's going to be spectacular.

00:05:16.560 Some of it is going to be horrifying and extraordinarily destructive.

00:05:21.760 It's Thursday, September 13th.

00:05:30.900 You're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:05:33.360 I want to, on the heels of that, I want to show you something that came out.

00:05:37.460 This is from the Financial Times.

00:05:39.920 Stu handed this to me yesterday and he said, Glenn, I don't think this is a prediction prediction.

00:05:44.580 But this is something else you railed on for how long and it's come true.

00:05:49.000 And we never really had on the record evidence of it.

00:05:52.660 We had a lot of back, you know, backroom meetings, a lot of people at high levels who came to you and told you these exact things, but it would never go on record with it at the time.

00:06:01.880 And would stick me out.

00:06:03.500 So I looked crazy.

00:06:05.260 You know, some of the people that we would come to when asked about it, they would go on the record and they'd be like, no, that's no, no, we're fine.

00:06:13.880 But behind the scenes, they would be telling me, you've got to keep going.

00:06:17.720 You don't understand why you're right yet.

00:06:20.840 You need to read this, this, and this.

00:06:22.620 You need to look over here because that's why you're right.

00:06:26.140 And I would come on and I would say, I'm telling you these people, I can't tell you their names, but I'm telling you they're coming to me and they are telling me these things.

00:06:34.180 Don't listen to what you're hearing on television because everybody knows.

00:06:42.080 Well, why didn't they say anything?

00:06:43.600 Finally, the Financial Times has run a story and you'd have to ask yourself, why are they running this story?

00:06:54.760 Why are they running this story now?

00:06:57.600 Back into September 2008, a failure of AIG, many believed would mean an instantaneous collapse of the European banking system, which held much impaired U.S. credit.

00:07:09.300 Now, just listen to that.

00:07:13.100 Back in September 2008, this is the new Financial Times story.

00:07:17.120 This is the first headline.

00:07:19.180 Back in September 2008, a failure of AIG, that was that insurance company, many believed would mean an instantaneous collapse of the European banking system, as if that's not bad enough, which held much impaired U.S. credit.

00:07:36.480 What does that mean?

00:07:38.920 We are living so far beyond our means right now.

00:07:43.260 If the world goes into collapse, we have no money.

00:07:47.580 We're living on borrowed money right now.

00:07:50.920 If Europe goes down, who's buying any of our credit?

00:07:54.800 If China suddenly turns on us or goes down, who's giving us money to be able to afford the things that we claim we must have on top of who's buying our products?

00:08:14.640 It continues.

00:08:19.560 It's time to admit that I once deliberately withheld important information from the readers.

00:08:29.080 It was 10 years ago.

00:08:31.380 The financial crisis was at its worst.

00:08:34.100 I think I did the right thing.

00:08:36.420 But a decade on from 2008 crisis, I need to discuss it.

00:08:41.460 The moment came on September 17th, two days after Lehman declared bankruptcy.

00:08:47.300 That Wednesday was, for me, the scariest day of the crisis when world finance came closest to all out collapse.

00:08:55.780 But I didn't write as much in the Financial Times.

00:09:00.240 Two critical news items had broken out on that Tuesday night.

00:09:03.300 First, AIG received an $8.5 billion bailout.

00:09:06.140 It needed it because it had to pay up for credit default swaps transactions that it had guaranteed.

00:09:12.460 Without those guarantees, bonds sitting on banks' balance sheets and assumed to be of no risk would instead be deemed worthless.

00:09:22.680 Gosh, there is so much in just that one sentence.

00:09:25.580 There is so much there.

00:09:26.580 That would instantly render many of the banks holding them technically insolvent.

00:09:33.580 Okay.

00:09:34.600 So these credit default swaps, which was one of the main problems that we had in 2008.

00:09:42.080 That problem has not been solved.

00:09:44.200 That problem is much worse.

00:09:46.920 Much worse.

00:09:48.540 Today.

00:09:49.100 They were guaranteed by an insurance company.

00:09:54.520 Don't worry if they go down because they're of really no risk.

00:09:59.340 You can count them on your books as good as gold.

00:10:02.860 Well, as soon as they went to zero, the banks didn't have any money to their name.

00:10:10.320 Even though it was paper, they didn't have any money to their name.

00:10:13.060 So the government had to step in and bail out AIG, the insurance company, so the insurance company could say, yes, those things, that paper that's actually worth zero, we're going to give you the money.

00:10:27.300 We've insured those.

00:10:29.980 That allowed them to keep their doors open.

00:10:33.980 If this isn't everything you learned in Jimmy Stewart's It's a Wonderful Life, I don't know what is.

00:10:40.020 Meanwhile, the Reserve Fund, the largest U.S. independent money market mutual fund, announced a loss of its holdings of Lehman bond.

00:10:49.340 As a result, the price would fall below $1 per share.

00:10:53.600 The Reserve Fund, listen to this, the largest U.S. independent money market mutual fund.

00:11:01.760 Do you have any of your retirement money in mutual funds?

00:11:07.220 Of course you do.

00:11:10.020 In 2008, the largest independent mutual fund announced that because of Lehman Brothers, it had so many of their bonds in Lehman Brothers,

00:11:22.920 that they would now fall below $1 per share, which would have meant that everybody who had any retirement savings in those mutual funds, gone.

00:11:33.600 This was terrifying because money market funds, which hold short-term bonds, were treated as guaranteed.

00:11:42.340 No money market fund had ever broken the buck, fallen below the price of $1.

00:11:47.360 The funds were vital customers for short-term debt.

00:11:51.960 Without them, how could banks or big companies fund themselves?

00:11:56.360 Investors rushed to pull money out of money funds, while the fund's managers dumped corporate bonds for the safety of treasury bills.

00:12:04.160 This was an actual run on the bank.

00:12:07.380 The solvency of Wall Street's biggest banks was now in question.

00:12:11.460 Amid chaos, the yield on treasury bills fell to its lowest since Pearl Harbor.

00:12:17.900 Desperate people needed safety, and interest rates no longer mattered.

00:12:22.600 Unlike 2007's run on Northern Rock in the UK, none of this was visible.

00:12:29.040 Lines don't form around the block to buy T-bills.

00:12:32.840 But the Wall Streeters I spoke to thought the banking system was at risk of failing.

00:12:38.160 As this happened, I realized, this is the writer reporting this,

00:12:42.620 I realized I had a lot of cash in my bank account at Citibank.

00:12:46.620 I was above the limit covered by the U.S. deposit insurance, which was at the time $100,000.

00:12:53.660 So if Citi went bust, once an inconceivable event that I could now imagine,

00:12:59.820 I could lose everything over $100,000 for good.

00:13:04.420 So on my lunch hour, I headed to Citibank.

00:13:07.200 I planned on taking half of my money out and putting it into account at a Chase branch next door.

00:13:13.260 That would double the number of money that I had insured.

00:13:18.700 Because we were in Midtown Manhattan, surrounded by investment banking offices,

00:13:25.020 at Citi, I found a long line, all well-dressed Wall Streeters.

00:13:31.140 They were doing exactly the same thing as me.

00:13:35.460 Next door, Chase was also full of anxious-looking bankers.

00:13:40.260 Once I reached the relationship officer, who was great,

00:13:45.020 she told me that she and her opposite number at Chase had agreed on a plan of action.

00:13:50.800 I need not open an account at another bank.

00:13:53.540 Using bullet points, she asked if I were married and had children.

00:13:56.720 Then she opened accounts for each of my children in a trust, the joint account with my wife.

00:14:01.520 In a few minutes, I had quadrupled my deposit insurance coverage.

00:14:04.920 I was now exposed only to Uncle Sam and not to Citi.

00:14:10.460 With a smile, she told me she had been doing this all morning.

00:14:14.240 Neither she nor her friend at Chase had ever requested to do this until this week.

00:14:20.200 I was finding it a little hard to breathe.

00:14:23.140 There was an actual bank run happening.

00:14:26.020 But it was only happening in the New York Financial District.

00:14:29.420 People panicking were Wall Streeters who best understood what was going on.

00:14:35.320 All I needed to do was get a photographer to take a few shots of the well-dressed bankers

00:14:40.080 lining up for their money and write a caption explaining it.

00:14:45.480 We did not do this.

00:14:47.880 Such a story on the Financial Front page of the Financial Times would have been enough

00:14:51.420 to push the system over the edge.

00:14:53.080 Our readers went unwarned, and the system went, without that final prod, into panic.

00:15:01.660 But the next crisis will not be about banking, but the insidious danger that pension funds

00:15:07.840 deflate, leaving an entire generation without any money to retire.

00:15:14.260 Was this the right call 10 years ago?

00:15:17.200 I think so.

00:15:18.440 All of our competitors also shunned any photos of Manhattan bank branches.

00:15:24.880 The right to free speech does not give us the right to shout fire in a crowded cinema.

00:15:31.840 It does if there's a fire.

00:15:34.520 I mean, there's no free speech limitation on taking pictures of a bank having run out of a bank.

00:15:40.920 He says there was the risk of a fire, and we might have lit the spark by shouting about it.

00:15:46.560 A few weeks later, the deposit protection was raised, blah, blah, blah.

00:15:50.680 Ten years ago, U.S. banks, virtually the only players in the financial world,

00:15:55.300 plainly more secure than they were before.

00:15:57.820 They delivered and built up capital, and the risk of sudden collapse is now far more distant.

00:16:03.320 The problem now is the disposing of that risk has obstructed the task of reducing other risks.

00:16:09.720 Now risks lie in bloated asset prices, leveraged investments, and pension funds that hold them.

00:16:17.740 The next crisis will not be about banking, but the insidious danger that pension funds deflate,

00:16:25.360 leaving people without any money to retire.

00:16:28.400 The bad news is, this is a crisis whose solution can always wait until another day.

00:16:34.940 Politicians can ignore it.

00:16:37.200 The good news is, I need not stay quiet this time.

00:16:42.560 He would be interesting to talk to.

00:16:44.240 He would be.

00:16:44.880 Because I can understand the feeling there.

00:16:49.360 But again, he protected himself, and his readers didn't get that information.

00:16:53.040 In a way, isn't that insider trading?

00:16:55.760 I mean, it feels like that.

00:16:58.220 Yeah, it's insider trading.

00:16:59.420 He has information that the general public does not have.

00:17:02.240 Now, I understand about the panic thing.

00:17:06.540 Believe me, we've talked about this.

00:17:08.560 For years, we spoke about this.

00:17:10.940 But we believe we have a responsibility to tell you the truth on what is going on.

00:17:17.520 Yeah, it's more of a journalistic question in some ways.

00:17:19.880 It is.

00:17:20.240 Than it is.

00:17:21.060 But I can understand.

00:17:22.260 You don't want to send the country into a panic.

00:17:24.440 But on the other hand, you're protecting your hundreds of thousands of dollars.

00:17:27.840 Well, the average person is going to lose everything.

00:17:30.840 Yeah, has no way to protect themselves.

00:17:31.820 Your pension funds are in trouble.

00:17:36.100 Please, please pay attention to where your retirement money is.

00:17:42.800 They are in trouble.

00:17:45.200 This is a warning that that is coming.

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00:20:08.260 Hello and welcome to the program.

00:20:10.120 So some good news for South Carolina, kind of, and North Carolina.

00:20:14.260 The hurricane has been downgraded from yesterday.

00:20:22.280 We were thinking yesterday at this time it might be a Category 5.

00:20:26.400 However, the storm surge is what they're worried about now.

00:20:30.520 Not necessarily the winds, but this thing is coming onshore and it's a storm surge of anywhere from, what is it, 6 to 16 feet?

00:20:40.340 Something like that.

00:20:42.320 And that will cause flooding everywhere.

00:20:45.500 So lots of damage.

00:20:47.120 If you can help, we, yesterday, we sent out a couple hundred semi-tractor trailers.

00:20:54.500 I think we had about 250 of them on the road yesterday.

00:20:57.400 They had supplies, water, you know, chainsaws, heavy equipment.

00:21:01.460 Everything that you would need to be able to start to dig out of something like this.

00:21:07.440 Those trucks are already parked and out of the way of danger, but ready to go in as soon as things settle down.

00:21:15.600 We also have, we have Operation Barbecue, which is this great charity that we've done all kinds of work.

00:21:21.820 They just got out of California for the wildfires.

00:21:24.400 And now they're headed over for the opposite, for too much water.

00:21:29.520 They feed about 30,000 meals every single day.

00:21:34.480 And we are supporting them.

00:21:36.660 We need your help.

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00:21:49.780 And we could really use your help.

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00:21:54.860 We have Aaron Watson on the phone because he's doing something for still the hurricane victims in Texas because everybody has kind of moved on.

00:22:04.860 But a lot of people in Texas have not been able to move on yet.

00:22:08.400 Aaron Watson, country music superstar.

00:22:10.380 How are you, Aaron?

00:22:11.440 I'm good.

00:22:12.140 It's great to hear your voice.

00:22:13.580 Yeah, good to hear you.

00:22:14.800 Well, good.

00:22:15.420 I hear your voice all the time because I listen to your music.

00:22:17.700 But, you know, you could listen to the show and you could hear my voice.

00:22:20.780 Well, I was just trying to be friendly, you know.

00:22:22.780 You know, I'm a big fan.

00:22:26.000 Yeah, no, I'm good.

00:22:26.900 Good to hear from you, brother.

00:22:28.020 Yeah, good to hear from you.

00:22:28.800 Now, what are you doing?

00:22:29.940 Because you just put out a new CD, if you even call them that now.

00:22:35.060 And it's your rodeo CD, right?

00:22:40.680 Yeah.

00:22:41.020 So we recorded our performance at the Houston Rodeo back in 2017.

00:22:46.680 And we were planning on putting it out about the time that the hurricane hit the Texas coast.

00:22:56.080 And we just kind of put it on the back burner.

00:22:58.480 We just didn't feel like promoting an album while, you know, such a large part of the state

00:23:03.840 was going through such a tough time.

00:23:06.780 So we really just kind of put it on the back shelf.

00:23:09.500 At some point, I thought we would never even put the album out.

00:23:13.460 Like, it just kind of missed its opportunity.

00:23:15.200 But then we thought, you know what?

00:23:16.860 We could put this album out on the one-year anniversary of when Hurricane Harvey hit Houston

00:23:23.180 and all along the south Texas coast.

00:23:26.520 And we could use that to raise some money for those 41 counties that were affected.

00:23:31.580 You know, when there's billions of dollars of damage and millions of people affected,

00:23:35.660 12 months later, you know, the mess isn't cleaned up.

00:23:39.380 So we just thought it would be a great opportunity for us to give back.

00:23:43.940 All right.

00:23:44.060 So what are you doing?

00:23:45.100 For every download sold, how much goes?

00:23:49.400 It's $1.41.

00:23:52.000 And we did the $1.41 just to let people know that there's 41 counties that were affected.

00:23:57.860 I mean, I don't think people understand just how big Texas is,

00:24:00.720 but those 41 counties are probably larger than a lot of states.

00:24:04.640 Yes.

00:24:04.960 And so, you know, we did a showdown in Houston a couple weeks back when we released the album.

00:24:13.380 And just, it's crazy.

00:24:14.780 There's still people who have not got to move back into their homes.

00:24:18.100 So we're trying to raise some money and also raise awareness

00:24:20.600 and let people know there's still folks out there that need some help.

00:24:24.720 Yeah.

00:24:24.900 So Aaron Watson, if you don't know who Aaron Watson is and you're a country music fan,

00:24:29.020 you are missing something great.

00:24:31.160 He is a great, great entertainer.

00:24:34.160 And his music is, I mean, right from the heart.

00:24:38.400 It's just really good stuff.

00:24:40.240 I was going to say, I want to make sure I'm accurate on that.

00:24:44.240 Yes.

00:24:44.640 My favorite country music artist is Aaron Watson.

00:24:47.660 I love it.

00:24:48.860 And this is a great recording of, I mean, if you're in country, you know,

00:24:56.060 the Houston rodeo is the best.

00:24:57.700 And we applaud you for doing this, Aaron.

00:25:00.940 Well, man, I tell you what, you know, when I got to play your Mercury One event, it's very inspiring.

00:25:07.600 I mean, it can be overwhelming that the world has so much need out there.

00:25:12.100 But you guys, you never flinch.

00:25:15.440 You just keep on giving back and you keep on finding ways to help people out.

00:25:19.200 So I just want to commend you guys for the example that you're setting for all of us.

00:25:23.440 So thank you very much.

00:25:24.560 Thank you.

00:25:25.560 Aaron, well, Aaron Watson.com, Aaron Watson.com.

00:25:28.860 You can buy it on, I assume you can buy it on, you know, iTunes or wherever else.

00:25:32.100 iTunes, Amazon, you know, it's got 14 tracks.

00:25:37.520 And I'll tell you this, I recorded one.

00:25:39.520 There's one song on there, Glenn, that's not live.

00:25:42.300 During the hurricane, I wrote a song called Higher Ground because while there was all this,

00:25:48.780 you know, controversy a year ago, and there still is, you know, whether it's politics or whatever,

00:25:55.520 there's all, you turn on the news and it's bad news and bad news and bad news.

00:25:59.080 I wrote this song, Higher Ground, because I was really inspired by the way people were

00:26:05.880 coming together down along the South Texas coast and helping each other out.

00:26:11.020 Different colors, races, religions, you know, they were showing each other kindness.

00:26:16.220 And it really set a great example for all of us to like, you know what, we're all on the

00:26:20.640 same team here, so let's show each other love.

00:26:24.260 So I wrote that song just kind of in honor of everyone who's been through these tough times.

00:26:28.820 Yeah.

00:26:29.180 Thank you very much, Aaron.

00:26:30.080 I appreciate it.

00:26:31.820 AaronWatson.com.

00:26:34.240 Aaron, thanks for your help.

00:26:35.720 You know, it's amazing that it was a year ago, isn't it?

00:26:39.540 Isn't that wild?

00:26:41.580 I mean, in some ways, it seems like yesterday.

00:26:44.180 In other ways, it seems like 1,400 years ago.

00:26:47.160 It really does.

00:26:48.060 It's, you know, and, you know, one, the next week, there's another hurricane or another

00:26:55.040 something.

00:26:56.340 So, man, thanks for all you do, brother.

00:26:58.060 Got it.

00:26:58.460 Thanks, Aaron.

00:26:59.780 If you also would like to donate, we could really use your help at mercuryone.org.

00:27:06.400 We are so deep in so many things right now, and it's all because of you, mercuryone.org.

00:27:14.840 Really?

00:27:15.960 It's all because of you.

00:27:17.080 It's all because of global warming.

00:27:18.960 That's what it's because of.

00:27:20.500 You know, thank you for saying it.

00:27:22.180 Global warming.

00:27:22.560 Well, no, it's not.

00:27:23.520 No, no, no.

00:27:25.160 It's not because of global warming.

00:27:27.400 May I?

00:27:28.000 Pardon me?

00:27:28.680 No.

00:27:29.040 May I?

00:27:29.740 Denier?

00:27:29.900 No, no, no.

00:27:31.760 Listen to me.

00:27:32.620 Okay.

00:27:33.580 It's because of Donald Trump.

00:27:35.980 Yes.

00:27:36.500 Okay.

00:27:36.920 Now you're speaking some sense.

00:27:38.060 Who is not doing enough about global warming.

00:27:40.980 Yes.

00:27:41.820 You know, man, if he just would, if California would have banned straws a couple weeks earlier,

00:27:47.440 North Carolina would be fine.

00:27:49.420 Man.

00:27:50.000 I was, I decided to go over to the New York Times, see how their coverage was going for

00:27:54.020 the hurricane today.

00:27:54.960 And they had three updates.

00:27:56.580 Two of them were about global warming.

00:27:58.160 Now, every time a snowstorm comes in, they say, you can't, you snowstorm in a time where

00:28:03.760 it's not supposed to be snowy.

00:28:04.820 They say, well, of course you can't blame any individual storm on global warming.

00:28:09.300 That's crazy.

00:28:10.040 But every hurricane.

00:28:10.360 But every time there's a hurricane, there are stories blaming that individual storm on

00:28:14.240 global warming.

00:28:14.820 Even though hurricanes are down.

00:28:16.940 Yeah.

00:28:17.180 Down overall.

00:28:18.020 Obviously we went through, what, 15 years without hitting any major hurricanes really hitting

00:28:22.440 the United States.

00:28:23.460 But now that, you know, we've had a couple of years now with, with big ones, we're going

00:28:28.680 to get this pushy.

00:28:30.500 And by the way, this is going to hit ground likely as a category too.

00:28:33.240 Right.

00:28:33.620 So a big one.

00:28:35.040 Right.

00:28:35.340 No.

00:28:35.520 You know why this is big?

00:28:36.640 You know why this is causing so much damage?

00:28:38.280 Is because the federal government said that they would start to cover insurance for homes

00:28:46.620 on the water.

00:28:48.340 Before then, you couldn't have, you couldn't get your insurance.

00:28:51.860 So people didn't build stuff by the water.

00:28:55.420 If you were really, really wealthy and you were like, ah, if I, my home is destroyed, I'll

00:29:00.900 just build another one.

00:29:02.720 You'd build your house there.

00:29:04.160 But as soon as we said, as taxpayers, I'm sorry, as soon as the government said, as

00:29:10.740 taxpayers, we will just take the money from them and give it to the people who are building

00:29:16.580 their homes right on the water.

00:29:20.120 All kinds of communities sprung up and we're on the hook for it every single year.

00:29:25.880 Now, we have to be there to help people, but please don't tell me that when a category

00:29:32.020 two comes ashore that this is because of global warming.

00:29:37.140 No, it's not.

00:29:38.800 Category twos are not uncommon.

00:29:41.680 Category fours aren't uncommon.

00:29:43.960 And in the last 117 years, since 1900, okay, from 1900 to 2017, the trend of both hurricanes

00:29:51.960 hitting the continental United States and major hurricanes, because the concept, both

00:29:56.760 of those, the trend is down, down.

00:30:00.040 It's about, it's not a huge, a huge decrease, but it is a decrease.

00:30:04.000 And even if it's flat, right?

00:30:05.480 The concept is, of course, that it's not that at first they said they were going to be larger

00:30:09.620 and more frequent.

00:30:11.040 Then when they realized the science didn't support the more frequent thing at all, they

00:30:15.460 said larger.

00:30:15.960 And this is what they were doing with, with Florence.

00:30:17.720 They were saying, look, the water's warmer and the water, water is warmer.

00:30:20.880 And the reason, you know, that means it's going to strengthen all the way to the coast

00:30:24.000 and it's going to be this gigantic hurricane.

00:30:25.680 Now we're seeing the opposite happening where it's actually breaking apart and it's going

00:30:28.880 down to a category two.

00:30:29.880 There's still going to be some major problems for major problems.

00:30:32.520 This is not a, this does not mean, hey, okay, I guess I'll stay at home on the coast

00:30:35.860 in the Outer Banks.

00:30:36.760 It's still not a good idea.

00:30:38.260 But the point is when it comes to global warming is now they're saying, well, now it's

00:30:41.360 the extra rainfall.

00:30:42.880 They just keep picking up these different arguments when the last one fails.

00:30:46.780 Well, even major hurricanes are down since 1900.

00:30:49.640 Major hurricanes, if they were, if they were getting stronger, then they would not have

00:30:54.980 that as true.

00:30:56.340 But yet it's, it is what, what is actually happening.

00:30:59.320 And of course the cost is solely because as you point out, people are building on the

00:31:03.620 shore a lot more.

00:31:04.360 They're not only building on the shore, they're building on the shore in large homes that are

00:31:08.960 obviously waterfront property.

00:31:10.640 So very expensive.

00:31:11.920 And then when those things come in and they do have problems, the cost is astronomical

00:31:17.420 compared to what it used to be.

00:31:19.160 There's a, um, uh, there's a graphic that's been floating around, um, uh, social media,

00:31:23.640 uh, which is amazing.

00:31:26.060 Just showing the difference in development of North Carolina from when 1954, the hurricane

00:31:31.000 hit and what it is today.

00:31:32.160 I mean, and you think about it when people used to have things on the beach or, you know,

00:31:37.740 on the waterfront, they used to be like cabins.

00:31:40.420 They would be like a little summer cabin.

00:31:43.260 Now they're these giant, you know, multi-million dollar structures.

00:31:47.760 And even, yeah, and they're really expensive and they're bigger and there's more stuff in

00:31:52.200 them.

00:31:52.420 For example, since the 1970s, the average home, not just the ones on the water, but the average

00:31:57.240 home in the United States has increased by 1,000 square feet.

00:32:01.920 Now, back in the day, the home I grew up in was about 1,000 square feet total.

00:32:06.520 Yeah.

00:32:06.960 The average house now is over 2,500 square feet.

00:32:10.640 And what they're, I mean, think about how much more it's newer stuff.

00:32:15.040 It's more expensive.

00:32:15.800 It's by the water and it's double the size.

00:32:19.140 So all of these things combined to, of course, when these things hit, there's a lot more damage.

00:32:23.880 The insurance shouldn't be as cheap and subsidized by the government.

00:32:28.180 It should be more difficult to acquire because if that were true, people would take more risk

00:32:34.480 assessment into their decision to move to the water.

00:32:37.620 And look, I think it's totally your right to go to the water.

00:32:40.140 But, you know, the idea that the government should be subsidizing people's multi-million

00:32:43.700 dollar beach homes is a little crazy.

00:32:45.240 It's not even that.

00:32:46.420 It's not even that the government is doing.

00:32:48.200 It's that I am.

00:32:49.020 I don't have a waterfront property, you know, and I could afford one.

00:32:55.060 I don't.

00:32:56.380 Why?

00:32:57.360 Why not?

00:32:58.140 Well, I mean, I know somebody who bought something down in Galveston a year before the storm came

00:33:04.300 in.

00:33:05.180 Okay.

00:33:05.820 I mean, they were flooded a couple of weeks ago.

00:33:08.980 They were hit by a hurricane.

00:33:10.820 I don't want the hassle.

00:33:12.120 But the government should not be bailing out.

00:33:14.360 I shouldn't be taking money from your paycheck for you to pay for my insurance.

00:33:19.320 No, no.

00:33:20.600 It's a bad policy.

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00:34:25.260 The one, the only, Mr. Mike Rowe is joining us in about 35 minutes.

00:34:31.120 We also have Cal Turner on, and he's just put a new book out, My Father's Business.

00:34:37.820 He's the guy who, you know, created all the Dollar General stores.

00:34:43.400 And a fascinating, a fascinating tale and a great story for entrepreneurs and the American spirit.

00:34:51.880 He's coming on in just a little while.

00:34:53.840 Also, I need to tell you about, you know, the Facebook and Twitter bans that are happening.

00:34:59.400 This is increasing in frequency.

00:35:02.540 And I am growing very concerned that your voice is going to be snuffed out.

00:35:14.300 Our voice is going to be snuffed out.

00:35:16.760 We will not be able to communicate truth with one another.

00:35:20.180 And I need to address this with you because it is deeply, deeply concerning when you can't say illegal alien without being banned on Twitter or deleted on Twitter because you've used the hate speech illegal alien.

00:35:41.880 We have a problem when when Norm Macdonald was kicked off of the Tonight Show because he said, you know, Louis C.K. and Roseanne, they did bad things and they paid a heavy price.

00:35:57.900 But, you know, when does this end for them?

00:36:01.300 And when he's kicked off for asking that question, we're in a different America.

00:36:10.180 We are in America that I don't recognize and truly is becoming frightening.

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00:37:00.640 You know, over our time that we have spent together, we have seen a lot of crazy stuff.

00:37:07.080 Star relationship for many people started on nine twelve, nine eleven.

00:37:12.620 Some people heard that news with my voice at the end of the day.

00:37:18.580 But if you if I were national, you might have heard the warning about Osama bin Laden in I think it was 1999 or 1997.

00:37:27.980 Where I said, this guy's coming in New York on W.

00:37:35.160 A.B.C.

00:37:35.720 And if you don't pay attention now, there will be blood, body and buildings in the streets of Manhattan within 10 years.

00:37:45.580 It happened.

00:37:46.460 Came to you about 2006 and said, don't buy into any of this housing stuff.

00:37:52.800 Don't do it.

00:37:53.520 Don't do it.

00:37:54.600 There's a massive bubble, which then I started to see was actually a banking crisis was on the way.

00:38:01.400 Everyone denied it.

00:38:02.540 2008 happened.

00:38:04.220 But if you were listening.

00:38:07.220 You actually saved your money.

00:38:13.740 I've come to you with problems, but I've tried to come to you with solutions.

00:38:18.420 Best selling book I ever wrote was Common Sense.

00:38:21.740 And I'll never forget.

00:38:22.480 I wrote a lot of that on vacation.

00:38:25.300 I wrote the I wrote the the most important chapters while I was on vacation.

00:38:33.200 And I remember it was late at night and I called my family into the living room and I said, I want to read something to you because I think this is I think this is right.

00:38:41.400 But I also don't know if I'm willing to publish it under my name because it's I don't know if people are going to want to hear this.

00:38:48.480 And I think it's trouble.

00:38:49.600 And I was calling out both parties and I was calling out the games that were played in Washington and the trouble that we were headed for.

00:39:00.000 You went out and bought it in droves.

00:39:02.440 Two million copies later, people knew what was going on.

00:39:08.880 We started the the tea party in the 912 project and played a big part in in that with you.

00:39:16.240 We followed you on a lot of that.

00:39:19.600 And then 2010 happened.

00:39:23.540 And then 2012, we saw that the tea party had been just dismantled and we had been lied to by our own party.

00:39:31.100 And I started to get discouraged.

00:39:33.700 I left Fox and decided because people were asking me, so now what?

00:39:37.400 And I didn't have an answer.

00:39:38.480 I decided to break it down to smaller problems.

00:39:40.720 And we we printed conform about education and common core and and what the problem was in universities long before anybody else.

00:39:52.820 Gun control in the book control.

00:39:55.580 When the caliphate came, something that I warned you about and everybody mocked, I wrote, it is about Islam to prepare you.

00:40:05.080 With the Nazarene fund, I couldn't solve a war.

00:40:08.680 I just still didn't have any answers.

00:40:10.140 I don't know, but I know these people are in trouble and I don't know how to do it.

00:40:13.980 But together we can figure it out.

00:40:17.300 Thirty million dollars later and tens of thousands, tens of thousands of Christians moved and saved and rescued from slavery.

00:40:28.080 Sixteen thousand Christians and religious minorities, hopefully, will be moved out of this region before Christmas because of you.

00:40:41.240 But people continue to ask me, how do we save how do we save the country?

00:40:44.580 How do we save the Constitution?

00:40:46.160 And I didn't have an answer.

00:40:49.160 And it bothered me.

00:40:50.740 And I felt pretty, I felt pretty worthless because I was like, what am I bringing to you?

00:40:56.620 I don't know what I'm even to say to you.

00:40:58.360 How do we fix this?

00:40:59.320 I don't know.

00:40:59.660 It's bigger than the country.

00:41:00.820 Now it's the Western way of life.

00:41:05.360 After four years of searching, after two years of really intense study, after a year of writing and then taking the book and rewriting it entirely again,

00:41:18.320 I can proudly come to you and say, I know what the problem is and I have a way to win where we all win, where half the country doesn't lose.

00:41:32.360 We there is something happening right now.

00:41:35.060 And I can diagnose and point right directly to the cancer that's eating us.

00:41:40.060 And I can point you right directly to the solutions.

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00:42:59.140 Addicted to Outrage is where we begin.

00:43:01.600 It's Thursday, September 13th.

00:43:08.400 You're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:43:10.560 This is going to be an incredible hour for entrepreneurs and people who believe in America.

00:43:16.160 We have Mike Rowe joining us in about 25 minutes.

00:43:19.240 Right now, we have Cal Turner Jr. on.

00:43:21.260 He is the author of the book, My Father's Business.

00:43:24.220 And his father's business is the Dollar General stores.

00:43:29.360 And Cal, welcome to the program.

00:43:32.420 I want to start right here on page, I think it's 38.

00:43:35.780 I was 15 when my dad took the step that changed everything.

00:43:39.600 It involved the kind of creative leap that comes all along too rarely and ultimately left a huge mark on American businesses.

00:43:48.260 Tell me about your dad and his idea.

00:43:52.220 My dad was amazing, Glenn.

00:43:54.380 And he, being from the country, thought he should stay on top of what was going on in the city.

00:44:01.600 And he noticed that in Nashville and Louisville, a lot of expensive newspaper advertising was done monthly to promote dollar days.

00:44:12.740 And everything priced in a dollar.

00:44:15.860 And he thought, wow, wouldn't that be a wonderful opportunity for us in our stores in the country to have dollar stores?

00:44:29.840 And it would be a way to give real value to people at prices they could keep up with in the store.

00:44:37.900 So you, because you write in the book that, you know, he saw what he saw was the expense of a full page ad.

00:44:47.020 So if you've got dollar days going on, they must be pulling in a ton of business to pay for just that ad, let alone to make money.

00:44:55.780 And when he went to his staff, they said, tell you, the unanimous, Glenn, they were unanimous.

00:45:03.520 It won't work.

00:45:05.640 That's crazy.

00:45:07.440 You know, it's, you know, it's crazy.

00:45:08.720 When I read your book, I love this.

00:45:10.060 I just love this line.

00:45:12.280 Your father said we have to sell everything in the store for a dollar.

00:45:16.000 I know in some cases now I'm thinking, you know, you're how, what are you going to get for a dollar?

00:45:22.100 In some cases, it has to be multiples like three plates or two pairs of socks for a dollar, but nothing would cost more.

00:45:30.940 Well, he had some things that were actually 20 for a dollar, but I can't remember the idea.

00:45:36.760 Now you need, now you need $20 for one item.

00:45:40.340 I mean, 20 for $1.

00:45:42.220 I know.

00:45:42.860 I know.

00:45:43.720 It's crazy.

00:45:45.040 It's crazy.

00:45:46.500 Yeah.

00:45:47.080 So they didn't want to do it.

00:45:49.400 And so he said, let's just take our worst store, right?

00:45:53.100 Absolutely.

00:45:53.860 Take our loser.

00:45:55.040 And if it becomes a winner under this new format, we have something to build on.

00:46:01.360 So what, what was it about your dad?

00:46:03.920 I mean, your grandfather sounds a lot like my grandfather.

00:46:06.860 He was just a dirt farmer, third grade education.

00:46:09.840 You know, came up all through the depression.

00:46:15.300 Your grandfather became a, an entrepreneur.

00:46:18.460 Mine became a machinist for Boeing, but I mean, they came from simple people.

00:46:23.220 What was, what was, what was it that made your dad different?

00:46:28.760 Well, what I celebrate is what was the same in those, in the wonderful grounding of my grandfather and of my father, which translated to my generation.

00:46:44.780 Also, there is something there to build on.

00:46:49.740 There is a hardworking ethic.

00:46:53.360 It is a believing in other people and the opportunity to build something with other people who can become your partners.

00:47:03.800 Do you think that spirit exists now, Cal?

00:47:07.100 I think the spirit exists.

00:47:09.320 Yes.

00:47:10.840 I think the, um, the discourse at large is, is largely negative, but that spirit exists out there.

00:47:24.520 Certainly in the heartland of America, where those dollar general stores are.

00:47:30.900 The, um, uh, the, tell me about the mission statement of, uh, dollar general.

00:47:37.880 Well, we came up with a mission statement that really got the company going.

00:47:44.880 And it was only two words, Glenn, serving others.

00:47:49.860 Life is about others.

00:47:51.620 It's not about me.

00:47:53.520 It's not about us.

00:47:55.320 What can we do to make a difference in the lives of others?

00:48:00.480 What do these small stores in these rural areas afford us as an opportunity to serve struggling people?

00:48:11.860 And we do have salt of the earth people who shop in the dollar general stores.

00:48:18.900 And we have learned so much from them, Glenn.

00:48:23.380 Genius is, is not in the cities.

00:48:25.620 It's out there in the countries and it's in, in the heart of good people.

00:48:32.780 You know, the, the number one, um, I've talked to people who teach at Wharton and they have said

00:48:40.280 they're having a hard time teaching ethics because they will lay out these case studies and they'll

00:48:45.940 say this company made this and they made this decision.

00:48:48.580 And, um, and they're, they're trying to teach ethics and they'll say, they'll turn it over

00:48:54.600 to the students.

00:48:55.360 All right.

00:48:56.000 So where do we begin?

00:48:57.440 And invariably the first question is, well, did they make money?

00:49:05.240 And the professors are starting to, are starting to be a little frustrated because they're like,

00:49:09.940 no, no, no, no, no, we're talking about ethics, ethically, whether they made money or lost

00:49:14.540 money, ethically, is this right?

00:49:16.700 And it's being tied now to success or failure.

00:49:21.220 Yeah.

00:49:22.380 Well, I don't think you teach ethics.

00:49:26.800 I think you learn it from life and from others.

00:49:30.520 And when we adopted that two word mission statement, Glenn, serving others, we had the basis of

00:49:41.200 applied ethics in retailing.

00:49:46.940 So why, why, what, why now?

00:49:50.680 What, what was inspired you to write this book about your dad now?

00:49:53.820 Well, it, it took me two years to be convinced to do it.

00:50:02.040 And then doing it took six years, but, um, it, it has dawned on me as I do my retrospective

00:50:12.040 on life that there are very few CEOs who have over 30 years in that job in the same company.

00:50:23.820 And, and, and perhaps sharing the lessons learned from all of that can help others.

00:50:32.740 And it, we went through so many different cycles in the company.

00:50:38.320 We went through ups and downs.

00:50:40.740 What's the biggest, what's the biggest thing, Cal, that you learned in all of the ups and

00:50:46.120 downs, everything that you have seen from your dad and from you, what is the biggest thing

00:50:51.400 that an entrepreneur, an entrepreneur needs to learn first?

00:50:56.420 Well, an entrepreneur needs to understand his own core values and, and what, what his greatest

00:51:09.680 opportunity in life is to serve others, you're not here for yourself, you're here for others.

00:51:19.860 Your greatest opportunity is in serving others and partnering with others in doing that.

00:51:28.320 And my, my dad, as an entrepreneur was of the old school gland and it, it was more retailing

00:51:37.200 was more of a dog eat dog world back then.

00:51:40.340 And his belief was that he should only expect the competition to do just everything to him

00:51:49.840 that the competition could do.

00:51:51.520 It's, it's, it's, it's a, it's a fight out there and I came into the business, um, pursuing

00:51:57.780 my calling and, um, excuse me, um, there's nothing worse than somebody coming into the, into

00:52:11.700 the room, distracting you in your middle of a point.

00:52:13.840 Go ahead, Cal.

00:52:17.380 Well, is that your wife?

00:52:20.020 Yes, that was, that was, that was, that was Margaret.

00:52:22.800 Yes.

00:52:23.300 Say, say hi to Margaret.

00:52:25.700 I, I came, okay.

00:52:27.380 All right.

00:52:28.400 I came into the business gland, um, pursuing my calling because I wrestled with whether to

00:52:37.320 go into the ministry.

00:52:38.420 And I, I discerned that the greatest ministry opportunities in the real world, perhaps not

00:52:45.640 in the church, at least for me.

00:52:47.620 And it was in that business where we could help struggling people to have a better life.

00:52:53.300 And, um, I, I was very moved by the customers that came into a dollar general store.

00:53:01.000 Um, I waited on, uh, an old smelly, dirty farmer who was making a sacrificial purchase of a pair

00:53:12.620 of 39 cent panties for the old lady.

00:53:16.160 And, and I, I got a real message, uh, from that farmer that, um, there are a lot of people

00:53:27.060 out there who are having a hard time making ends meet and they could use help Cal and they come

00:53:33.660 in and they come into our store.

00:53:35.420 I, uh, I, I, I just, I love it.

00:53:37.620 You remind me so much of my, uh, my grandfather and my family.

00:53:40.840 I just, I just love it.

00:53:42.440 Uh, Cal Turner.

00:53:43.800 That's, that's a compliment.

00:53:45.460 It is, sir.

00:53:46.080 Uh, Cal Turner, Jr., author of my father's business.

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00:53:53.480 Uh, Cal junior from the, uh, the, uh, dollar general store back in just a second.

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00:56:22.720 Uh, you know, uh, there, we should talk about this at some point today.

00:56:26.020 I don't know if we have time now, but this sort of Puerto Rico death toll, obviously really

00:56:31.340 disturbing 3000 people, but the way they're coming to the number is so, uh, it's not right.

00:56:37.040 It's very Rwandan.

00:56:38.120 Yeah.

00:56:38.460 Well, yeah, it's like they've just calculated the excess deaths, uh, predict, predicted

00:56:42.880 for the, for the area instead of like, this is, these are American citizens.

00:56:46.320 Shouldn't we like know all their names?

00:56:47.540 It's social security cards, driver's license.

00:56:50.760 We should know it's not that big of an Island either.

00:56:54.280 We should know.

00:56:59.760 You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.

00:57:01.720 So I, I'm a little confused because my phone screen says that it's Michael Rowe that is

00:57:07.260 on the phone.

00:57:08.540 Uh, I've, I, I've never had to call him Michael before, but I don't know if he, that's, it

00:57:14.460 is his assistance.

00:57:15.320 So, uh, insistence.

00:57:16.760 So, so Mr. Michael Rowe, how are you, sir?

00:57:20.240 Indeed, Mr.

00:57:21.380 You know what?

00:57:21.880 Let's go with Mr.

00:57:22.780 Mike Rowe.

00:57:23.640 Glenn.

00:57:23.880 Mr.

00:57:24.240 Mike Rowe.

00:57:24.680 Okay.

00:57:24.940 Mr.

00:57:25.220 Mike Rowe.

00:57:26.500 How are you, Mike?

00:57:28.580 I'm great, man.

00:57:29.420 How are you?

00:57:29.880 I'm great.

00:57:30.440 I'm just thinking of the times, you know, uh, early on in our relationship when you were

00:57:34.860 sitting in my studio and you said this Facebook thing, should I have a Facebook page?

00:57:39.140 I'm like, yes, yes, you should.

00:57:41.900 Actually, you, you, you literally leaned in and kind of looked over your shoulder just

00:57:47.280 to make sure nobody was listening and said, I would, if I were you.

00:57:52.140 So, uh, you just on Tuesday had, I think it was like 280,000 likes on a posting where,

00:58:05.340 you know, I guess it could be portrayed as, um, your takedown of Kaepernick, but that's

00:58:11.420 not what it was at all.

00:58:13.400 Um, it was, it was instead a look at a hero.

00:58:18.380 You want to explain how this happened and, and what you did?

00:58:22.160 Well, as you know, you, you get a sort of a critical mass of people at some point and

00:58:28.000 the tail starts to wag the dog vis-a-vis social media.

00:58:31.380 And, uh, you got 5 million people there and they look at the headlines and a lot of them

00:58:35.520 assume that I'm sort of standing by to weigh in on anything that's remotely controversial.

00:58:40.460 And of course you can't really run a foundation and be that guy, so I'm not, but you also

00:58:47.180 have to say something at some point, uh, if the thing really bubbles up.

00:58:52.740 So the thing with Kaepernick and Nike was what it was, but of course everything sort of landed

00:58:59.100 on nine 11 and people were saying, you know, say something about this already.

00:59:04.360 And I looked at the ad, really looked at it for the first time.

00:59:07.220 And, and look, I don't, I, Colin Kaepernick is free to protest whatever he wants, however

00:59:12.420 he wants.

00:59:13.060 And Nike is certainly free to elevate any opinion.

00:59:16.880 They feel like it's, it's still America, but, uh, it was the, it was the words on the

00:59:22.500 ad.

00:59:22.860 It was, it was the sacrifice everything part.

00:59:25.360 And I just thought landing on nine 11 is that's, that's a hell of a thing.

00:59:30.100 And, uh, and the question that I answered wasn't, you know, what do you think about the underlying

00:59:35.620 protests or anything else?

00:59:37.260 It was from a marketing standpoint, what do you think of the ad?

00:59:41.560 You know, is it a, is it a good idea from a marketing standpoint?

00:59:45.340 And I said, well, I, it's a confusing idea from a marketing standpoint because you've chosen

00:59:50.280 a guy that half the people in the country, uh, don't really relate to in terms of what a

00:59:56.000 hero could be, or ought to be.

00:59:58.860 And, uh, especially this time of year, you know, that ad came out early in September and

01:00:03.400 here we are at September 11th.

01:00:05.940 And I just thought of Tom Burnett, you know, I, the guy that was on flight 93, who was instrumental

01:00:13.580 in, uh, in leading that, that revolt.

01:00:16.440 And I remembered the transcripts I had read years ago between he and his wife and I Googled

01:00:21.760 them and there they were.

01:00:22.760 So I posted his final conversation and just politely said that if it were me, I might've

01:00:29.440 gone another way.

01:00:31.600 And, uh, for whatever reason, you know, I went out, I went to work, I came home and yeah,

01:00:36.880 uh, 10 million people had seen the thing and we were having ourselves a conversation.

01:00:41.920 Yeah, it was.

01:00:42.440 And, and, you know, I've, I'd read that years ago, but I had forgotten how intense, uh, that

01:00:48.840 conversation was and how his wife said, no, please don't know, sit down.

01:00:53.580 Don't, don't draw attention to yourself.

01:00:55.960 And he said, he was a flight attendant.

01:00:57.700 Yeah.

01:00:58.120 Yeah.

01:00:58.440 For Delta.

01:00:59.060 Yeah.

01:00:59.440 Yeah.

01:00:59.920 And, uh, he said, honey, I've, uh, we've got to do something.

01:01:03.620 Uh, and we're just waiting for a, an open space and we're going to rush.

01:01:08.420 It's, it's, well, that's the ultimate irony, Glenn.

01:01:11.760 I mean, you know, you're, you're talking about a Nike campaign that's built on a slogan that

01:01:16.380 says, just do it.

01:01:17.540 His last words to his wife, we're, we're going to do something.

01:01:22.360 And that's what hit me.

01:01:24.840 It's like good grief.

01:01:26.100 I mean, that's, that's not a slogan.

01:01:28.280 That's not marketing.

01:01:29.720 That's the thing.

01:01:30.960 Look, I felt the same thing a few years ago.

01:01:33.640 Remember when the guys on the train took down the terrorists unarmed, they charged a man

01:01:39.800 with an automatic weapon.

01:01:41.100 And the thing about these moments is it's, it's, it's not the enormity of the tragedy.

01:01:47.180 It's the, it's the, it's the micro element of it.

01:01:50.500 It's the, it's the smallness of it.

01:01:52.200 What would you do?

01:01:53.680 Glenn Beck, I'll see halfway back, you know, what would you do?

01:01:58.360 And anybody who's ever been on a plane or a train, uh, needs to think about that question

01:02:05.240 because it's the ultimate personal question and it's horribly relatable.

01:02:09.860 We've all been in that.

01:02:11.520 We've all been in that circumstance, if not that exact situation.

01:02:15.580 And we should ask, especially on nine 11, you know, who are we?

01:02:21.340 What would we have done?

01:02:23.100 Uh, it's a gut check.

01:02:25.280 Mike, let me, let me ask you something else.

01:02:26.980 Um, I just think this is fantastic.

01:02:29.880 Bob Woodward has now, uh, broken all kinds of sales records, uh, biggest, uh, fastest

01:02:36.340 selling book, I think in 93 year history of the publishing company.

01:02:40.840 Um, and, but there has been a, there has been a slight glitch on the radar screen.

01:02:48.820 Your mother, there was, it was your mother was actually beating him in sales for a few hours.

01:02:56.980 Uh, for the better part of a day.

01:02:59.880 That's great.

01:03:00.400 My mother, what happened is I, I, my, my mother's been writing these stories for years.

01:03:05.240 And a couple of years ago, I started reading them on Facebook.

01:03:08.480 And one of those stories reached 128 million people.

01:03:13.460 Publishers obviously called and said, look, if your mom writes a story about raising the

01:03:18.040 dirty jobs guy, it's a guaranteed bestseller.

01:03:20.740 I said, mom, you want to write a book?

01:03:22.300 She says, what's it about?

01:03:23.540 I told her, she said, you know, I have two other sons.

01:03:26.220 Doesn't seem right.

01:03:27.120 I'm like, write the book.

01:03:30.760 She's like, well, let, let, let me noodle on it.

01:03:34.160 She goes away.

01:03:35.660 Six months later, she comes back.

01:03:37.320 She's written 14 terrific stories.

01:03:39.880 I'm not in any of them.

01:03:41.040 They're all about her mother and they're delightful, but it's not what a publisher would want.

01:03:47.700 Right.

01:03:47.940 So I print the things.

01:03:49.800 I print 10,000 copies.

01:03:51.640 They sell out in a week and a half.

01:03:53.220 Now the publishers come back.

01:03:54.920 I make a deal with Simon and Schuster.

01:03:56.540 My mom's book is going to hit the stands in November.

01:04:00.120 That's the backstory.

01:04:00.900 I announced this a couple of days ago over the weekend and the Amazon site crashes.

01:04:09.280 She went from number 2 million to number 25 and then they couldn't take any more orders.

01:04:15.600 So the Barnes and Noble site was still working.

01:04:19.220 And so everybody went there who wanted her book and her book, which is fundamentally about

01:04:24.720 hope.

01:04:25.560 It's called about my mother beat a book called fear.

01:04:29.480 I'm not sure what it's about, but I'm pretty sure I can.

01:04:35.100 So I just, I couldn't help myself.

01:04:37.760 Glenn, I, I, I took a picture of it and I sent it to my mom and then I called her on

01:04:42.020 the way to church and I filmed our conversation in the car.

01:04:45.980 I'm like, mom, you're, you're beating fear.

01:04:49.300 Hope is beating fear on a Sunday afternoon.

01:04:51.800 And I put that up on the Facebooks and then off we go.

01:04:55.140 Crazy world.

01:04:56.300 That is great.

01:04:57.040 Well, I just wrote a book and it's all about you.

01:04:59.020 Uh, it's called addicted to outrage.

01:05:01.380 Um, and you have to read between the lines to find the parts about you, but it's all

01:05:06.020 really about you, Mike.

01:05:07.260 So you can mention that at any time.

01:05:09.280 Uh, I appreciate it.

01:05:11.740 I'm going to post it immediately.

01:05:13.660 Give Amazon a heads up.

01:05:15.500 Yeah.

01:05:15.860 Yeah.

01:05:16.400 It's crazy.

01:05:17.200 It's crazy.

01:05:17.760 You live in a, you live in, you walk a tightrope every day because things, everything now is

01:05:26.740 political and you have done with micro works.

01:05:30.960 You have done such great stuff way ahead of, of the news cycle where we're all looking at

01:05:38.000 universities and go, we don't need that debt.

01:05:40.420 You know, if Apple, uh, even Google now saying we don't need a, uh, we don't need a university

01:05:47.680 diploma, uh, to, to work here.

01:05:50.500 We're just going to see what you're doing.

01:05:52.420 Uh, and you were on this and called a madman for so long.

01:05:57.020 On top of that, everything now is about politics and you just refuse to get involved, which

01:06:03.860 I, I commend you.

01:06:05.260 How do you do it?

01:06:07.380 Um, you know, I'm not, I'm not sure I've done it as successfully as you're saying.

01:06:12.060 I think I, I get a little on me because you can't talk about education and you can't talk

01:06:17.400 about work, uh, without being completely immune.

01:06:20.720 Right.

01:06:21.160 I mean, work leads to labor.

01:06:23.160 Labor is unions.

01:06:24.420 Unions is, is politics.

01:06:26.200 So that, that, that's a pretty quick trip, but, but in a very general way, it cuts the

01:06:31.680 other way to, um, everyone understands work because work is one of the few truly relatable

01:06:38.160 things we all need to experience.

01:06:39.940 How we define it is completely up to us and the value we assign to various forms of education

01:06:46.860 is completely within our control.

01:06:48.840 So micro works turned 10 this, uh, I swear, Glenn, I remember talking to you about it.

01:06:55.860 Not long after we launched, I know it was brand new and, um, and it's still modest by foundation

01:07:02.340 standards.

01:07:02.820 We've done about 5 million in work ethic scholarships, but the, uh, the opportunity to use social

01:07:09.580 and the opportunity to keep the conversation moving.

01:07:13.100 I get a kind of tired of hearing people saying, you know, we need to have a conversation.

01:07:17.060 Well, true.

01:07:18.580 Uh, in this case though, we have to talk about that.

01:07:22.500 We, we have to talk about 1.5 trillion in college loans.

01:07:26.320 We have to talk about 6.6 million jobs still open, 75% of which don't require a degree.

01:07:32.960 And we have to stop with this idea that following your passion is the only way to wind up passionate

01:07:39.620 and doing something you love.

01:07:41.580 It's nonsense.

01:07:42.740 And, uh, look, the millennials are a fun target, right?

01:07:46.580 I mean, the, the, the crying closets and the safe spaces and all these other things, but

01:07:51.180 we're the, uh, like the whole snowflake mentality.

01:07:54.660 I said to somebody the other day, we're the, we're the clouds from which these snowflakes

01:07:59.520 fell.

01:07:59.920 And it's kind of, it's kind of on us, you know, we're putting pressure on 18 year old

01:08:07.760 kids to borrow money that we don't even have to lend them, but we give it to them anyway,

01:08:12.480 knowing they're never going to be able to pay it back, educating them for jobs that don't

01:08:16.960 really exist anymore.

01:08:17.920 Right.

01:08:18.540 So yeah, we better have a conversation.

01:08:20.580 Yeah.

01:08:21.080 Mike, I'd love to have you back sometime, uh, and, uh, spend just a mark when you're free

01:08:25.820 tomorrow.

01:08:26.480 I'm not, I'm not, but, uh, maybe your mom is maybe.

01:08:29.760 Your mom is something you're, you're, your listeners would love her.

01:08:35.100 She's, she's sassy and highly caffeinated.

01:08:38.220 How would she, highly caffeinated?

01:08:39.700 She is, how is she as an, as an interview?

01:08:42.440 Has anybody interviewed her yet?

01:08:44.960 She's terrific.

01:08:45.840 Glenn, she's been upstaging me my whole career.

01:08:47.960 I put her in every show I'm in.

01:08:49.740 She's on returning the favor.

01:08:51.160 She's in somebody's got to do it.

01:08:52.360 She's on old episodes, a dirty job.

01:08:53.940 We, we, we, we might, we might, we might ask her to come on.

01:08:57.100 Is that a good thing or that'd be too shameful for you?

01:08:59.460 Because if it is, we're definitely doing it.

01:09:02.280 Well, it would be deeply humiliating for, I think all of us, but then it's done.

01:09:06.960 Let, let me run it up the flag.

01:09:10.060 She's got, she's got a publicist now.

01:09:12.680 Oh, she does.

01:09:13.760 Okay.

01:09:14.160 Agent.

01:09:14.520 So there may be some, there may be some maneuvering.

01:09:18.520 Well, if my people can talk to your people who could talk to her people, we can maybe work

01:09:23.620 that out.

01:09:24.340 Mike, thank you so much.

01:09:25.180 If somebody writes a book about your book, send it to her.

01:09:27.640 I'll leave that book to her.

01:09:28.920 Send her book to you.

01:09:30.220 Okay.

01:09:30.760 And then we'll, it'll be great.

01:09:32.060 It'll be fantastic.

01:09:33.380 Mike, as always, good to talk to you.

01:09:34.760 Thank you so much.

01:09:36.200 Adios.

01:09:37.600 Mike Rowe from Mike Rowe Works.

01:09:39.740 We should totally talk to the real talent in the Rowe family at some point.

01:09:42.620 Oh, I would love.

01:09:43.980 That would be great.

01:09:44.720 You get Mike Rowe's mom on.

01:09:46.360 Oh, yeah.

01:09:46.960 And we should just keep him on on hold.

01:09:48.640 Yeah.

01:09:48.860 And while that's going on.

01:09:49.640 Hey, how are things going there?

01:09:50.920 Mike enjoying this?

01:09:52.500 You imagine having your mom on national radio.

01:09:54.700 Oh, my God.

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01:11:21.880 Norm Macdonald, a comedian and a writer and, you know, he's a conservative, isn't he?

01:11:30.100 Kind of.

01:11:30.700 Hollywood conservative.

01:11:31.940 He doesn't hate America.

01:11:33.580 How's that?

01:11:33.880 That's close enough for a Hollywood conservative.

01:11:35.780 Uh, and he came out with something I, I, what I saw was very rational and just said, look,

01:11:42.640 uh, Roseanne and Louis CK, uh, have paid a very high price and they're both friends and

01:11:48.980 they made mistakes, but you know, how long is this going to, how long does this go on?

01:11:53.340 And he said it started with, uh, you know, a hundred women can't be wrong about some guy.

01:11:56.880 And then it was one person can't be wrong about someone.

01:12:00.400 And it's like, well, one person absolutely can lie.

01:12:02.260 Well, one person lies all the time.

01:12:03.800 Yes.

01:12:04.080 Uh, and he, I think he had one part of it and I can't remember exactly what it was,

01:12:07.500 but he did apologize for one way he phrased something.

01:12:10.000 Yeah.

01:12:10.140 He phrased it the way he phrased it.

01:12:11.800 I don't remember what it was, but the way he phrased it was, um, uh, right.

01:12:17.220 Uh, let's see, like, uh, Chris Hardwick, I really thought it got the blunt end of the

01:12:21.560 stick.

01:12:22.620 Um, and they've turned this into, oh, you're, you're downplaying the, the victim and, uh,

01:12:29.320 and saying that they, you know, their, their pain is comparable to, you know, Roseanne.

01:12:35.260 Well, let me, let me ask you, I mean, when it comes to sexual abuse, I'm with you.

01:12:40.260 Um, I'm, I'm with you.

01:12:41.960 You know, if you've got a racist in the room and everything else, we, you know, David Duke,

01:12:45.560 um, Roseanne's victim.

01:12:50.200 I mean, is there, is there a time or a place at any, I mean, is this, is this Les Miserables?

01:12:56.780 You make one mistake and you have to continue to pay for it for the rest of your life.

01:13:01.840 Or are we a country that says, okay, well, you paid a very big, heavy price and come on

01:13:07.420 back in the community and let's see what you do now.

01:13:10.040 Have you learned your lesson?

01:13:11.260 Yeah.

01:13:11.460 Roseanne's awful and I never would have hired her in the first place, but she, what she,

01:13:15.560 what happened with her was a victimless crime, right?

01:13:17.680 Like Valerie Jarrett is real.

01:13:19.780 Is she really upset about this?

01:13:21.480 Is she really a victim in this?

01:13:22.860 I mean, she was called, uh, you know, she had a bad joke told about her, uh, and, you

01:13:26.800 know, it wasn't good.

01:13:27.400 And I understand what happened there though.

01:13:29.020 I didn't, you know, support it.

01:13:30.140 I don't support people getting fired for tweets, but still like, let's not act like she's in

01:13:34.280 the same boat as, you know, a victim of Harvey Weinstein.

01:13:37.800 Right.

01:13:37.980 I mean, it's, it's ridiculous.

01:13:39.240 And now NBC decides, oh, you can't even have that conversation and be on NBC.

01:13:46.160 Mercury.

01:13:47.940 Hey, it's Glenn.

01:13:48.920 And I want to tell you about something that you should either end your day with or, um,

01:13:53.120 start your morning with.

01:13:54.760 And that is the news and why it matters.

01:13:57.620 If you like this show, you're going to love the news and why it matters.

01:14:01.320 It's a bunch of us that all get together at the end of the day and just talk about the

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01:14:11.820 Glenn Beck.

01:14:13.460 I want to talk to you a little bit about, um, violating policies that can get your voice

01:14:19.680 silenced.

01:14:22.040 Reddit has shut down a bunch of subreddits for content policy violations.

01:14:29.000 And, um, you know, they, they, they said that they've, they've got to get rid of these

01:14:35.460 subreddits that are, are spreading all kinds of pro-Trump conspiracy theories.

01:14:39.940 And some of them are, you know, the QAnon subreddit, uh, line on, I don't, I don't even

01:14:45.380 know what it is.

01:14:46.040 I don't really care what it is.

01:14:48.360 Um, you know, I've, I heard enough of people going Q and, and Q is the, you know, 12th letter

01:14:54.120 of the, I was shut up.

01:14:55.280 I mean, why, why do you even care?

01:14:58.320 But I would like to, uh, just point out that while they are going after the pro-Trump conspiracy

01:15:05.020 theorists, because they're just so dangerous, I would like to take the opportunity to list

01:15:11.260 a few subreddits that have not been banned as of this morning.

01:15:16.100 Um, and I highly suggest you don't go looking for these.

01:15:19.700 Uh, there's enough internet subreddit, uh, which you will be able to see a man having

01:15:25.180 sex with a chicken.

01:15:26.680 Uh, you'll see a skinned monkey, uh, some type of body.

01:15:32.080 I'm not really even sure what happened to that.

01:15:34.220 Uh, children in naked suits.

01:15:36.340 Now they're not technically naked, but they look naked and women peeing on an octopus.

01:15:42.940 That's all good.

01:15:44.360 That's all good.

01:15:45.400 Uh, you also have, uh, you know, the gore subreddit, which, uh, you know, you, you'll

01:15:51.740 have mental scars.

01:15:52.880 Don't, don't look for it.

01:15:54.660 Um, at the necrophilia subreddit and also erotic death subreddit, which is porn with women

01:16:03.160 being killed and sometimes eaten.

01:16:06.480 Now, one of the things that they have pulled off is the subreddit pictures of abortions.

01:16:11.620 I mean, because that one, you, I mean, you don't want to show the, sure, the, the, you

01:16:17.180 know, the porn with the women, uh, getting killed and, uh, and eaten or the women, you

01:16:22.800 know, peeing on the octopus.

01:16:24.000 That's totally, that's all within the boundaries, but the Donald Trump, uh, you know, threat

01:16:31.100 of whatever the conspiracy is on the letter Q, that's got to be taken down.

01:16:37.000 Meanwhile, Facebook, uh, banned, uh, Jamie Glaz, uh, Glaz of, I don't know him.

01:16:46.920 He might be crazy.

01:16:49.360 Facebook has banned him.

01:16:51.020 He says for 30 days for posting his article on the nine steps we need to take to counter

01:16:56.340 jihad.

01:16:56.900 Now, if his, you know, if his, if his nine steps are kill all of them because they're

01:17:05.000 Muslim and then kill them again, eight other times, probably, you know, probably kind of

01:17:11.800 a guy you shouldn't be listening to.

01:17:14.260 You can post your jihadi ISIS content on Facebook and that's fine, but an article on how to counter

01:17:22.080 it.

01:17:22.400 That's not Twitter is also banned the center for immigration studies for, uh, uh, from

01:17:29.880 promoting tweets about quote, illegal aliens.

01:17:33.400 The center for immigration studies tweeted Twitter has just rejected paid promotion of

01:17:38.840 the tweet below saying this determination is based on the following Twitter ads policy

01:17:43.740 hateful comment because it contains the phrase illegal aliens.

01:17:49.940 Hmm.

01:17:50.540 Then in an effort to interfere, I guess, with elections, Facebook has banned, banned the founder

01:17:57.620 of the walk away movement.

01:18:00.080 I don't know anything really about this movement, but isn't he a guy who was claims to be a Democrat

01:18:05.960 and a homosexual who's like, we're just going to walk away.

01:18:10.320 Is that, I think it's, I think it's like walk away from the left is the concept behind it.

01:18:14.840 Okay.

01:18:15.140 So, um, Facebook has banned this ex Democrat, the founder of this weeks before the, uh,

01:18:21.920 March.

01:18:22.480 He, uh, writes walk away.

01:18:25.000 March on Washington, uh, has been banned on Facebook, uh, banned on the, from posting leading

01:18:31.980 up to the March.

01:18:32.780 It's devastated our reach to, uh, devastated our ability to reach, uh, people.

01:18:37.200 Then article 13, I don't even know what article 13 is, but apparently article 13 was number

01:18:44.420 two on trending and Twitter just removed it.

01:18:47.100 These things were censored just in the last 24 hours.

01:18:53.420 I don't know about you, but I remember my mom saying sticks and stones can break your bones,

01:18:58.960 but words will never hurt you.

01:19:02.020 What are we turning into when we can't handle words?

01:19:07.980 You don't want to read it.

01:19:09.540 Don't read it.

01:19:11.100 You want to find somebody peeing on an octopus?

01:19:13.820 I guess you can find it.

01:19:15.580 I ain't looking for it.

01:19:17.540 Well, actually, technically I was last night, but to make a point, but you don't have to see

01:19:21.280 it if you don't like it.

01:19:22.620 It's Thursday, September 13th.

01:19:30.220 You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.

01:19:32.400 You're saying you did actually look for the ping on the octopus?

01:19:34.620 Okay, that spiraled out of control there at the end a little bit, um, but I think you

01:19:38.260 get the meaning.

01:19:39.000 It's been noted by HR.

01:19:41.040 Let's, let's.

01:19:41.980 The work computer.

01:19:42.780 Let's get, can you, I mean, go ahead.

01:19:45.300 Look at my, look at my search history, man.

01:19:47.780 I'm going to be made in a monster.

01:19:48.600 Apparently I don't want to look at, I don't want to look at your search history.

01:19:51.340 Apparently, uh, there's a lot of, a lot of darkness, a lot of darkness in question.

01:19:55.740 I'm going to move this forward with Andrew Heaton, who is, uh, with us now, uh, who's

01:19:59.800 from, uh, reason.com.

01:20:01.520 And I think one of the funniest guys, uh, on the internet, you, you just did something.

01:20:07.620 Was it this week?

01:20:08.620 It was, uh, last, last Friday.

01:20:09.900 We did one of the Kavanaugh hearings.

01:20:11.280 Gosh, that's funny.

01:20:12.320 Thank you.

01:20:12.860 You took, you took all of the, you took all of the quotes from that madness.

01:20:17.880 You set in as Kavanaugh and who's your partner on this?

01:20:21.260 That would be Austin.

01:20:21.960 Well, there's two.

01:20:22.560 There's Austin Bragg, who's on camera and there's Meredith Bragg, who's off camera.

01:20:25.820 But, uh, Austin is this, uh, uh, wonderful human that it just sort of embodies smoldering

01:20:31.720 anger.

01:20:32.720 And so we, we do well, uh, working together because I've got this almost like, I'm going

01:20:37.620 to sell you life insurance optimism thing going for me.

01:20:39.960 And he's got that.

01:20:40.600 And we took, I mean, I think, I think the operative word in that particular episode was

01:20:44.380 grandstanding.

01:20:45.200 Uh, as I mentioned to you guys earlier, when I am Senate judiciary chairman, I think two

01:20:48.720 or three years from now, I'm going to call on people in the order they're not running

01:20:51.820 for president.

01:20:52.460 I'm going to strap seniority because it was very apparent to me who was running for president

01:20:56.580 and who wasn't.

01:20:57.300 It was agonizing.

01:20:58.760 Do you think that they have, I mean, this is not the role of the Senate.

01:21:02.060 It's advise and consent and elections have consequences.

01:21:06.840 We got Elena Kagan.

01:21:09.760 We're getting this guy who I honestly think if they throw him out, Trump's the kind of

01:21:14.800 guy who's like, oh yeah, well, here's Andrew Napolitano.

01:21:18.260 Well, I would like that.

01:21:20.360 If that were the actual gamble, I would be in favor of that.

01:21:22.980 They wouldn't like it.

01:21:24.460 But they, yeah, they might put in, he might put in Gary Busey.

01:21:27.100 He might, if you're, if you're a Democrat, there were, there was what, four final contenders

01:21:31.340 that he had up there.

01:21:32.140 He was the best one.

01:21:33.160 Yeah.

01:21:33.320 And one of them was a very socially conservative lady from, I think, Minnesota or something.

01:21:37.160 And like that one, I think would be far where Kavanaugh, he's, you know, if you're trying

01:21:42.500 to, you know, assess where he's at, he appears to have a lot of respect for president.

01:21:46.460 So I understand why you think Roe versus Wade might be overturned, but that's not what he's

01:21:51.240 blaring in with.

01:21:52.400 Although there were a couple other people that wanted to do that.

01:21:54.520 He's not great on, on privacy rights and things like that.

01:21:57.680 But otherwise, you know, he's a qualified jurist.

01:21:59.660 Yeah, he's not the guy I would pick.

01:22:01.720 I think he's a weenie.

01:22:02.480 And a Napolitano.

01:22:03.420 Yeah.

01:22:04.340 And that would scare the hell out of, out of the left.

01:22:08.500 And, you know, I just keep, I just keep thinking, I don't even understand your strategy other

01:22:13.900 than I'm just trying to get elected.

01:22:16.300 I, well, I think it's a couple of things.

01:22:17.860 I think there was a Hail Mary pass going on where, you know, I, if, if I were, if I were

01:22:22.400 a Democrat, I would be very worried about the swing seat going to the, like the hardcore

01:22:26.620 conservatives or whatever.

01:22:27.520 So I get, I get them trying to maintain that and it's high stakes enough.

01:22:32.020 And I think that there was some idea of maybe we're going to get this postponed long enough

01:22:38.080 and then somehow we'll pick up 20 Senate seats and then we can postpone this for two

01:22:41.280 years, a real Hail Mary pass.

01:22:43.240 But I, but I think the main thing though, is I think that, that Senator, not even Democrats

01:22:46.840 or Republicans, senators all want to live in the speech scene from Mr. Smith goes to

01:22:50.740 Washington.

01:22:51.360 They all believe that they are the, the righteous little guy fighting the good battle and they

01:22:55.640 want to live in that moment and they want to be surrounded by applause.

01:22:58.680 Cory Booker doesn't believe it though.

01:23:00.420 Cory Booker is out there just, just, he was trying to get, he, he, he, when Elizabeth Warren

01:23:05.240 got that hashtag, he was like, Oh, I want that so bad.

01:23:08.640 How do I get a hashtag?

01:23:10.640 They all do.

01:23:11.140 I mean, it's, it's, you're, it's, you're so right.

01:23:13.040 It's like these, this is just an audition, right?

01:23:15.420 They all want to have that moment that they can later fundraise on for their presidential

01:23:19.320 campaign, which by the way, they're all going to be announcing in like three or four months,

01:23:22.560 which is so depressing.

01:23:23.460 We're almost there.

01:23:24.340 We're almost in the middle of the 2020 election and they're all just auditioning, trying to

01:23:28.740 get their little donor email.

01:23:30.180 I think, I think he was hoping that he would be expelled from the Senate because what a,

01:23:33.860 what a great position.

01:23:35.140 Yeah.

01:23:35.360 Yeah.

01:23:35.580 If you, you, he was, he was trying to, I'm willing to, the secret crypto racist and an illegitimate

01:23:40.240 process to get him in.

01:23:41.500 And you got kicked out from the Senate because you believe like what I was, I'm also the

01:23:44.900 senator.

01:23:45.240 I'm also stealing copy paper at night.

01:23:48.060 I'm doing it.

01:23:50.180 You're wondering where all that paper's going to.

01:23:52.300 It's in the trunk of my car and I'm willing to walk.

01:23:54.820 I'm willing to have you fire me for that.

01:23:56.820 I mean, it was crazy.

01:23:58.080 Yeah, it was crazy.

01:23:58.900 So, um, uh, I, I want to turn it to, uh, Norm MacDonald and this, this chilling of speech,

01:24:06.200 uh, you know, you said, uh, you know, there could be a lot of, you know, a really, you

01:24:11.140 know, hardcore conservative, uh, appointed to the court.

01:24:14.340 I don't, I don't want a Republican.

01:24:16.260 I don't want a Democrat.

01:24:17.160 I don't want a liberal.

01:24:18.120 I don't want a conservative.

01:24:19.240 I want a hardcore constitutionalist.

01:24:22.480 All of our arguments would go away if we were just using a hardcore constitutionalist.

01:24:28.900 Somebody would stand up for freedom of speech, no matter who is saying it, we're going into

01:24:35.220 a world and you have to feel it with comedy where, uh, I, I don't know how this ends.

01:24:43.620 I don't know how this ends.

01:24:45.220 You concerned about it?

01:24:47.140 You know, I, I hope that eventually we kind of burn out.

01:24:49.460 Uh, although, uh, I, I will say in the world of comedy, standup comedians, almost to a person

01:24:54.480 will, will back up the other standup comedians when, when somebody is getting, uh, you know,

01:24:59.720 railed for political correctness.

01:25:01.320 Um, the, the attitude is standup comedy.

01:25:03.820 You, you've entered our sphere.

01:25:05.880 Um, this is our home.

01:25:07.040 If we're in a comedy club, uh, and we're allowed to kind of say whatever we want.

01:25:10.260 And it's very rare to find a standup comedian that will throw another standup comedian under

01:25:13.380 the bus.

01:25:14.100 Uh, I, on a, on a broader level, I'm worried that we seem to have this kind of Orwellian,

01:25:18.980 uh, two minutes hate thing in our culture where we, we have this deep need for catharsis

01:25:23.900 to, uh, ruin someone every day.

01:25:27.060 And then our, I guess our goal is to get them to hang themselves or something.

01:25:30.060 And that I find by the end of the day, we don't, we won't pay attention for two days.

01:25:33.380 We won't actually, we won't know what happens tomorrow because we will move on to somebody

01:25:36.840 else.

01:25:37.040 We'll move on to somebody else.

01:25:37.600 That bothers me.

01:25:38.220 Uh, I, I, I'd say from, from my vantage point, you know, I, I want to live in a, in,

01:25:42.360 in both legally a country that has freedom of speech, but also culturally has freedom

01:25:46.880 of speech, but if there's any, any two realms in it that I'm particularly concerned about,

01:25:51.440 it's college campuses and which they're, they're, that, that's not a thing anymore.

01:25:56.120 Uh, and comedy clubs.

01:25:57.940 I mean, like, like comedians tend to be the, the jesters that are allowed to really poke

01:26:01.680 at the edges of things and go to whatever the sacred cow is.

01:26:04.260 And every group has different sacred cows and comedians go in and slaughter them.

01:26:07.760 And, and there, we are important for that reason because we can actually shake things

01:26:11.800 up.

01:26:11.980 So I want to, I'm going to take a break and we'll come back and I want to ask you specifically

01:26:15.380 about octopus.

01:26:17.060 No, have you ever peed on a, have you ever desired to pee on a, a bit fan of them.

01:26:21.380 And also I, I'm kind of, you know, restricted to where I go to the bathroom.

01:26:25.220 Okay.

01:26:25.920 Uh, no, I want to talk to you about Norm MacDonald and, and our comedians rallying around him.

01:26:30.160 He wasn't saying anything.

01:26:31.880 I didn't think it's not a way I would have phrased it, but I didn't think he was saying anything

01:26:35.900 controversial.

01:26:36.460 And he, he's basically saying, can, can we talk about things?

01:26:39.620 Can we talk about things?

01:26:40.500 Apparently no is the answer.

01:26:43.080 Yeah.

01:26:43.440 Well, he, I mean, he did the, the, the two things that I'm aware of is he, he used, he, he on

01:26:48.780 a followup to the first statement, um, said you'd have to have down syndrome to something,

01:26:53.780 something, something, which probably not the best choice.

01:26:55.540 That was a clumsy thing.

01:26:56.700 Yeah.

01:26:56.820 So let's go through the whole thing.

01:26:58.180 When we come back here in a second, first, let me tell you about a response to this half

01:27:01.400 hour.

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01:27:17.260 York city at the time.

01:27:18.040 And as my daughter reminded me the other day, I said, do you have, do you have diamond

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01:27:37.220 So, well, you know, and I said, that's a good dad for you.

01:27:41.120 Anyway, uh, the, no one's giving me anything.

01:27:45.580 No one gave me any diamonds.

01:27:46.900 Would you like some diamond earrings?

01:27:48.220 I would.

01:27:48.400 Okay.

01:27:49.360 Um, the, um, the maple flex card is, is a couple of ounces of silver, but you can break

01:27:55.960 it up into little pieces into 10th of an ounce, a quarter of an ounce.

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01:28:02.400 And we started with the Canadian mint, uh, with the, with, with gold pieces.

01:28:07.000 They have the, you know, uh, credit card size holder that has five individually sealed,

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01:29:05.900 Glenn Beck.

01:29:06.920 You know, this is a little like the new phone book is here.

01:29:10.620 Yeah.

01:29:11.200 Uh, addicted to outrage on CD.

01:29:14.720 I don't even know if people have CD players anymore.

01:29:17.120 Five of them left.

01:29:18.260 Uh, there's five of them left, but, uh, just came out.

01:29:20.320 The audio book is really, really good available next week.

01:29:23.060 Addicted to outrage.

01:29:24.120 Uh, you can find it wherever, uh, books are sold.

01:29:25.920 Okay.

01:29:26.560 Let's go over, uh, Norm McDonald and here's what he said.

01:29:29.480 Yep.

01:29:29.660 About me too.

01:29:30.260 He said, I'm happy the me too movement has slowed down a little bit.

01:29:32.760 Used to be 100 women can't be lying.

01:29:35.120 And then it became one woman can't lie.

01:29:37.100 And then that became, I believe all women.

01:29:39.020 And you're like, what?

01:29:39.840 Like that Chris Hardwick guy, I thought really got the blunt out of the stick there.

01:29:43.220 Uh, then the interviewer asked, what about, uh, what about when someone, uh, admits to

01:29:47.360 wrongdoing?

01:29:48.360 And he says, the model used to be admit wrongdoing, uh, show complete contrition.

01:29:53.100 And then we give you a second chance.

01:29:54.740 Now it's admit wrongdoing and you're finished.

01:29:56.920 And the only way to survive is deny, deny, deny.

01:29:59.240 And that's not healthy.

01:30:00.080 There, there, there's no forgiveness.

01:30:01.280 I do think that some point it will end with a completely innocent person of prominence

01:30:04.920 sticking a gun in his head and ending it.

01:30:06.740 That's my guess.

01:30:07.400 I know a couple of people that this has happened to.

01:30:09.640 He says, who?

01:30:10.560 And this is where, this is the part where he gets into trouble a little bit.

01:30:13.200 He said, well, Louis CK, Roseanne Barr are the two people that I know.

01:30:15.900 And Roseanne was so broken up after her show was canceled that I got Louis CK to call her,

01:30:20.460 even though Roseanne was very hard on Louis CK before that, which is kind of interesting.

01:30:24.320 But she was so broken up and crying constantly.

01:30:26.780 There are very few people that have gone through what they have, losing everything in a day.

01:30:30.180 Of course, people will go, what about the victims?

01:30:32.620 But you know what?

01:30:33.220 The victims didn't have to go through that.

01:30:35.800 Well, and it's insensitive.

01:30:38.000 And he apologized.

01:30:38.540 He apologized for that immediately.

01:30:41.840 You know, they, they lost something else.

01:30:43.840 They went through something else.

01:30:45.160 Something worse, you know, in, in, in many cases.

01:30:47.580 Right.

01:30:47.720 But again, now, are we going to, are we going to shut him down?

01:30:51.180 Does he have to lose everything for saying that?

01:30:53.540 Right.

01:30:53.700 And then he went on, I think it was Stern.

01:30:55.240 And he said, look, of course, I think the, you know, people getting, people who've harassed,

01:31:00.000 you know, the others, you know, getting in trouble is, is a good thing.

01:31:03.040 Only a person, oh, maybe someone with Down syndrome would doubt that, which is obviously

01:31:06.720 a really terrible comment.

01:31:07.720 This is a really slow burn Senate campaign.

01:31:10.000 He's taking, he's taking a Trump card and is slowly going to run for Senator in California

01:31:14.980 against Feinstein or something.

01:31:16.360 Andrew Heaton, who is here from reason.com, a very funny comedian.

01:31:20.580 So what do you, what do you think of, of NBC?

01:31:24.820 The producers, even Fallon had to go and say, I'm sorry, but I think it's going to be bad

01:31:28.420 for the show because my producers are crying in the hallway.

01:31:31.440 Oh dear God.

01:31:32.180 Because of his comments in an interview.

01:31:33.780 Oh, grow up.

01:31:34.860 But if that makes you cry, how do you, how do you survive a day in Manhattan?

01:31:39.580 Yeah, we're working on a comedy show.

01:31:40.820 You know, and, and I, like, I, I don't want to put words in their mouth.

01:31:43.740 Most of my friends in comedy are, I think, very empowered, strong individuals that could

01:31:47.720 handle that and should, that are women or men, right?

01:31:50.340 Yeah.

01:31:50.760 And should be able to be able to handle that.

01:31:52.620 I'm, I'm sorry, with the Fallon thing.

01:31:53.760 I just learned about that.

01:31:54.800 I think Fallon tends to be a kind of neutral ground politically, which is, I think, the main benefit

01:32:02.740 to him.

01:32:03.160 Yeah.

01:32:03.340 Uh, and, and so I would think having, um, Norman would be a good thing.

01:32:06.800 Beyond that, I think it's odd that we've kind of gotten to the state where all reactions

01:32:11.540 are at a 10 or an 11 at all times.

01:32:14.080 Yes.

01:32:14.240 There are no threes anymore.

01:32:15.640 Right.

01:32:15.980 Um, so I would say like, like, like, you know, on a, on a scale of one to 10, how, like, I,

01:32:19.700 you know, I, I wouldn't, I wouldn't have said the, the, uh, the Down syndrome thing.

01:32:22.560 No.

01:32:22.900 I don't think that was, that was a polite thing to do.

01:32:24.660 Right.

01:32:24.800 And, and I, I'd say like, you know, his, his analogy with, um, you know, what, you know,

01:32:28.680 victims, you know, that's not a spitting contest between victims and them.

01:32:32.200 Everybody can be in a bad position here.

01:32:33.660 So there it's, it's, he's not a hundred percent right in that regard, but is this like a, you

01:32:38.060 know, a 10, like, well, you know, I think Hitler had a good point.

01:32:40.300 Like, no, it's not that right.

01:32:42.420 And, and so, you know, how, how do we respond to that?

01:32:44.360 And if we respond to everything with a 10, I do think he's right that everybody's going to

01:32:47.380 just deny everything constantly.

01:32:48.900 And don't you think it's, don't you think it's important what he said?

01:32:51.960 It's going to end with somebody with a gun in their mouth.

01:32:53.660 It will.

01:32:54.280 It will.

01:32:54.840 Because the goal is to get people to hang.

01:32:56.240 I mean, the goal is to get everybody to, we want you fired from your job.

01:32:58.860 We want the job to be boycotted.

01:33:00.260 We want your, your family to turn.

01:33:01.840 I mean, like, it is a, like, it is an intense, it's a witch hunt.

01:33:04.620 Yeah.

01:33:05.180 And the lady, what was it?

01:33:06.520 Has Janine landed or whatever?

01:33:07.900 And like, by the time she landed, her life was gone.

01:33:09.780 Right.

01:33:10.100 And it's like, I, you know, like, and she almost killed herself.

01:33:12.860 Yeah.

01:33:13.100 And it was like, that seems like we kind of went overboard there.

01:33:14.980 Right.

01:33:17.380 America, where two friends, Jimmy Fallon and Norm Macdonald could sit down and he could

01:33:23.180 go, come on, man, do you really, really, you really feel that way?

01:33:27.120 And, and we're like, no, no, no, I didn't mean it that way.

01:33:30.140 Why can't we have these discussions?

01:33:31.960 Let's talk about that.

01:33:32.120 I would, you know, I think that this, this is a good, this is a good and important conversation

01:33:36.200 to have is like, you know, where are we, are we going to use due process the same

01:33:39.500 way we use it in courts?

01:33:40.340 Is that the same standard we're going to use in the public sphere?

01:33:42.760 Right.

01:33:43.160 Like that maybe, maybe there's a reason we shouldn't, I don't know.

01:33:45.920 Let's talk about that.

01:33:46.860 Right.

01:33:47.380 As opposed to have an orthodoxy we're bringing down on everybody.

01:33:50.620 Andrew Heaton, thank you so much.

01:33:51.880 Thank you.

01:33:52.160 Always good to see you and keep up the good work.

01:33:54.400 I think you're really, really funny.

01:33:56.200 Thank you very much.

01:33:56.940 All right.

01:33:57.620 Andrew Heaton, back in just a second.

01:34:00.640 It's, I mean, it's like Noah's Ark today.

01:34:03.320 I mean, there's, there's one, at least one of everything.

01:34:06.340 Pat Boone in studio next.

01:34:09.160 I want you to try to put yourself into the mindset of somebody that was, was an icon in

01:34:21.820 the fifties.

01:34:22.680 Uh, and that continued for a very, very long time.

01:34:28.160 Uh, still he is the, uh, number 10 best selling, uh, recording artist, uh, on record number

01:34:38.280 10, uh, he, I guess, caused some controversy, uh, in the 1950s because he wouldn't kiss his

01:34:48.200 co-star, uh, cause he wouldn't, he wouldn't cross that line.

01:34:53.840 Pat Boone, welcome to the program.

01:34:55.160 Well, thank you, Glenn.

01:34:56.280 Let me correct that.

01:34:57.380 Um, it wasn't that I wouldn't kiss Shirley Jones in the movie, April love.

01:35:02.580 I would have, I wanted to, but, uh, who wouldn't if you saw her then?

01:35:07.900 Yeah, but I was 21 in my first, second movie.

01:35:12.760 And it was actually Bernadine first.

01:35:14.620 And then April love in the first year of my quote movie career, I was married.

01:35:20.020 I had three kids, a fourth on the way to another Shirley, Shirley Boone.

01:35:23.720 And there was no kiss in the script of April love or nor had there been in Bernadine, my

01:35:29.920 first movie.

01:35:31.040 And so I had not discussed with my wife, Shirley, the idea that I might spend half a day kissing

01:35:37.120 some other woman.

01:35:39.060 And when the director of the film, April love proposed in Lexington, Kentucky, where we were

01:35:47.120 filming and a, and a County fair Ferris wheel music number that as the Ferris wheel comes

01:35:53.360 to a close and you and Shirley Jones, you've come very close to each other and are feeling

01:35:58.940 very attracted as young kids to each other, that you lean in and tentatively kind of kiss

01:36:05.080 her.

01:36:05.240 And I said, on the mouth, he said, he said, he said, yes.

01:36:10.260 I said, wait a minute, Henry, can we talk a minute?

01:36:12.700 I haven't discussed kissing my co-stars with my wife, Shirley.

01:36:17.560 Do we have to do it here?

01:36:18.920 Can I just, uh, maybe talk to her tonight and maybe do this tomorrow?

01:36:22.820 And he kind of chuckled.

01:36:24.080 He said, well, no, this was the best place.

01:36:25.600 People want to see you kiss your leading lady.

01:36:28.240 And I said, I know, but I, I just, I feel like I should not tell Shirley after the fact

01:36:34.260 to my wife.

01:36:35.600 So he said, okay, we'll do it a little later in the film.

01:36:38.340 It never happened because first I came home that night and I told my wife, Shirley, she

01:36:44.220 said, look, I'm way ahead of you.

01:36:45.920 She said, I know you're going to have, you're going to make movies.

01:36:48.100 You're going to have to kiss some ladies, but I want you to promise me one thing.

01:36:52.560 And I said, anything.

01:36:54.040 She said, you won't enjoy it.

01:36:56.020 Could you promise that?

01:36:59.060 I said, I promise I won't enjoy it.

01:37:02.020 So I came back to the studio the next day with her permission, all puckered up, ready

01:37:07.340 to go with Shirley Jones.

01:37:09.140 But it had hit the trade papers, Glenn, overnight, Hollywood reporter, Daily Variety, Pat Boone

01:37:16.000 refuses to kiss leading lady.

01:37:17.960 They surmised for religious reasons, which it was not.

01:37:22.200 It wasn't religious.

01:37:23.120 I wanted to stay married.

01:37:24.280 That's all.

01:37:24.740 That's a good idea.

01:37:26.260 How the world has changed.

01:37:28.560 Yeah.

01:37:29.180 How the world has changed.

01:37:30.340 And I never kissed Shirley Jones in that film.

01:37:32.360 50 years later, there was, you know, they redid the film.

01:37:36.460 I mean, they refurbished the actual film and we had a big celebration of it in Hollywood.

01:37:42.360 And did you kiss?

01:37:43.240 Yes.

01:37:43.860 Yeah.

01:37:44.060 I kissed Shirley Jones, but she, her husband, Marty Ingalls was there in a wheelchair and

01:37:51.320 it was his permission and Shirley, my wife.

01:37:53.880 And I said, okay, I'm directing this.

01:37:55.360 We're on the Ferris wheel.

01:37:56.880 And here I come.

01:37:57.940 I'm going to lean in and kiss you.

01:37:59.740 And Shirley Jones turned her cheek to me.

01:38:02.360 I said, oh, no, no, no, no.

01:38:05.140 Now you got a free pass at this point.

01:38:06.980 This is a lip gloss.

01:38:07.660 We're not going to enjoy it.

01:38:09.340 No, there's no enjoyment.

01:38:10.840 Yeah.

01:38:11.680 Yeah.

01:38:11.920 But there was a light, little tender, teenage kind of a kiss, not the fatal attraction or

01:38:18.580 anything like that.

01:38:19.760 I didn't slap her against the wall.

01:38:21.760 The first time I met you, you won't remember this, but you were on a tour.

01:38:27.540 I was still in music radio and you were on a tour.

01:38:32.160 You were doing a hard rock album.

01:38:35.660 Yeah.

01:38:36.040 And I think we met at the MTV Music Awards.

01:38:39.620 Yes.

01:38:40.100 American Music Awards.

01:38:41.620 Yeah.

01:38:41.680 Okay.

01:38:42.800 And you got into so much trouble from the other side.

01:38:47.220 Yes.

01:38:47.720 Because.

01:38:48.880 I got kicked off Christian TV instantaneously.

01:38:52.020 Seriously.

01:38:52.760 Overnight.

01:38:53.040 Yeah.

01:38:53.820 Because it looked like I had gone over to the dark side.

01:38:56.960 I mean, I.

01:38:58.940 Yeah.

01:38:59.220 You were wearing, I think, leather chaps or something.

01:39:02.640 More than that.

01:39:03.460 More than that.

01:39:04.160 It was a full regalia.

01:39:05.980 Yeah.

01:39:06.540 That Bill Ballou, who used to do Elvis's costumes for him.

01:39:11.720 Dick Clark had him make this thing up where I look like the quintessential heavy metal rocker

01:39:16.320 with dark shades.

01:39:17.700 Yeah.

01:39:17.940 Yeah.

01:39:18.120 Yeah.

01:39:18.160 Yeah.

01:39:18.300 Yeah.

01:39:18.340 You could hardly see through them.

01:39:19.540 Yeah.

01:39:19.700 Yeah.

01:39:19.860 Yeah.

01:39:20.380 Yeah.

01:39:20.800 Yeah.

01:39:20.860 Yeah.

01:39:20.960 Yeah.

01:39:21.140 Yeah.

01:39:21.360 Yeah.

01:39:21.900 Yeah.

01:39:21.980 Yeah.

01:39:22.000 Yeah.

01:39:22.320 And I had tattoos on my shoulders, my pecs, a vest, just open all the way to the navel,

01:39:27.340 leather pants, heavy boots.

01:39:30.660 And I'm going on to present the award for hard rock heavy metal with Alice Cooper.

01:39:37.060 So Dick Clark had the idea, we should swap images.

01:39:42.180 Cooper would come out in a sweater, a golf cap, his hair pulled back, carrying a glass

01:39:48.520 of milk, white buck shoes.

01:39:50.560 And I would come out as the heavy metal rocker, which he prepared for me to do.

01:39:55.740 And for us, for me, it was a funny way to advertise the fact that my heavy metal album

01:40:02.800 of classic heavy metal songs, Deep Purples, Smoke on the Water, and Led Zeppelin's, gosh,

01:40:12.420 Stairway to Heaven, and Metallica's Enter Sandman, all of these songs with big band jazz

01:40:19.080 arrangements.

01:40:20.220 Very good, solid music, but with the cachet of all the heavy metal songs.

01:40:27.620 And there was some humor, we thought, to the fact that Pat Boone was doing heavy metal.

01:40:32.800 So Dick Clark wanted to emphasize that and have a swap images.

01:40:36.700 People thought I was serious, that I was trying to be a heavy metal rocker, and that I had

01:40:42.320 sold out.

01:40:43.760 You were so clear.

01:40:45.060 I remember you walked into the room, and you had a lollipop in your mouth.

01:40:49.740 And it was so clear that it was a joke.

01:40:53.360 But not the music.

01:40:54.660 The music, I was very serious about the music.

01:40:56.880 So Pat, I mean, I could spend a day with you talking.

01:41:04.600 I was going to take you to what you're seeing, but I would rather ask you, I'd rather ask you

01:41:11.020 go different.

01:41:11.640 What I've seen.

01:41:12.460 Yeah.

01:41:12.780 Like what you're, you know, how things have changed.

01:41:15.840 But I actually, with the time I have left, I would rather ask you this, because you brought

01:41:19.240 it up, Dick Clark was, people didn't really understand, I think in the general public,

01:41:27.740 who Dick Clark was.

01:41:30.440 I mean, he was a genius.

01:41:33.100 A genius.

01:41:33.920 Yeah.

01:41:34.340 And a titan.

01:41:35.540 Yeah.

01:41:35.820 You've probably first met him on American Bandstand.

01:41:38.520 Yeah, I did.

01:41:39.280 In fact, I was on his.

01:41:41.180 In Philadelphia?

01:41:42.080 Well, yes.

01:41:43.220 Yeah.

01:41:43.560 When I first met Dick Clark, he was the off-camera announcer for Bob Horn.

01:41:49.980 It was Bob Horn's bandstand in Philadelphia.

01:41:53.000 And most of the big cities had dance party shows for the rock and roll kids to dance to.

01:41:58.980 Dick Clark was the off-camera announcer who would say, now here's Bob Horn and American

01:42:04.280 Bandstand.

01:42:05.160 Well, he also was a DJ in a local station.

01:42:08.320 And so most of the artists who came on didn't mess with him.

01:42:11.760 I mean, he was just the studio announcer.

01:42:14.080 But I went back and visited with him, and we talked and got chummy.

01:42:17.780 I didn't know he was going to be Dick Clark, the major mogul.

01:42:20.940 He was just a guy, and I wanted to say hi to him.

01:42:24.400 So we developed this, the beginning of a friendship.

01:42:27.420 So when he took, Bob Horn got involved with some of the young teenage girls, and he lost

01:42:32.960 his show.

01:42:33.740 Yeah.

01:42:34.020 Yeah.

01:42:34.200 And Dick Clark took over the show, and then ABC moved to New York, where my show was sometimes

01:42:40.660 number one, the Pat Boone Chevy showroom on ABC.

01:42:45.340 And so Dick, his first national show, he had as his guests me, Jerry Lee Lewis, and maybe

01:42:53.540 Chuck Berry.

01:42:54.400 What were they like?

01:42:55.680 What was Jerry Lee Lewis like?

01:42:57.200 Well, he was wild.

01:42:58.780 Yeah.

01:42:58.920 He was unusual.

01:43:00.100 He was, I don't know how to-

01:43:02.660 He would have been, if he wasn't sleeping with his, what was it?

01:43:06.200 Teenage.

01:43:06.560 Cousin, teenage cousin.

01:43:07.740 Cousin, yeah.

01:43:08.180 He married her.

01:43:09.080 And married her, yeah.

01:43:09.800 If that wouldn't have happened, he would have, do you think he would have been Elvis?

01:43:14.020 Yeah, he would have been another Elvis.

01:43:16.600 He would have, as it turned out, I was the other Elvis.

01:43:19.660 I was, because I matched Elvis record for record in the 50s.

01:43:24.920 I had one more, people don't know this, one more top 40 record than Elvis in the last

01:43:30.840 half of the 50s.

01:43:32.140 Wow.

01:43:32.380 And in the 11 months before Elvis hit with Heartbreak Hotel, my first record was Two

01:43:38.580 Hearts, Two Kisses, an R&B cover of a record by The Charms on the Dew Tone label, which nobody

01:43:45.080 in pop radio knew about.

01:43:46.760 One heart's not enough, baby.

01:43:49.160 Two hearts will make you feel crazy.

01:43:51.300 One kiss will make you feel so nice.

01:43:54.660 Two kisses take you to paradise.

01:43:57.060 Two hearts, two kisses, make one love.

01:44:00.520 All right, that was top 10 million seller.

01:44:03.680 Next record, You Made Me Cry.

01:44:08.120 Ain't That a Shame.

01:44:10.140 And it went to number one, boom, real quick.

01:44:12.580 And then from March of 55 to February 56, when Elvis hit with Heartbreak Hotel, you can't

01:44:21.780 believe it, but statistics show it's true.

01:44:24.060 I had six million selling singles in that 11-month period.

01:44:28.000 Two of them were A and B sides of the same record.

01:44:31.520 And two of them, number ones.

01:44:33.540 I don't think people can't get their arms around the fame that must have been your fame and

01:44:45.740 Elvis's fame in the 1950s.

01:44:47.740 It was worldwide.

01:44:49.320 Yeah.

01:44:49.700 And there were so few outlets.

01:44:52.520 It's not like now where it's all fragment.

01:44:54.120 Right.

01:44:54.380 There are only three networks.

01:44:55.780 Right.

01:44:56.080 I mean, if you are, if you've got your own show on ABC and you are putting hits out like

01:45:02.940 that, I mean, that fame must have been crazy.

01:45:06.620 Well, it was, and it was to me a crazy dream.

01:45:11.800 But at the same time, I had a wife.

01:45:14.660 I was in college at Columbia University.

01:45:16.640 I was determined I was going to be a teacher preacher, I thought, even then.

01:45:20.960 And I was so I was determined to get my degree from Columbia.

01:45:24.360 I've been at North Texas State.

01:45:26.280 But when the record started happening, I moved to New York and Columbia University.

01:45:30.580 I was thrilled to be in part in Ivy League University.

01:45:35.180 And and and I had the Pat Boone Chevy show in the last year or two of the show.

01:45:41.340 I also did several big hit movies.

01:45:43.420 But I had a beautiful wife and I was having a child a year when I graduated from Columbia,

01:45:50.320 Magna Cum Laude, 1958 at age 23.

01:45:55.660 We had four kids already.

01:45:57.800 Wow.

01:45:58.640 Individually, four girls, all the records, the movies, the television, all of it happened.

01:46:04.340 Holy cow, you guys must have been tired at once.

01:46:07.620 And I existed like you have, I'm sure, many times on four or five hours sleep a night.

01:46:13.340 Shirley was keeping the home fires burning.

01:46:15.040 Always the valiant trooper that she always was.

01:46:19.120 And and we managed it.

01:46:20.380 But to me, it was it was crazy fantasy.

01:46:24.240 But when I came home at night to Shirley and my little girls.

01:46:27.620 Yeah.

01:46:28.160 I realized this is a job all the difference in the world.

01:46:31.520 Yeah.

01:46:31.740 It's my wife is the only one that saved me.

01:46:33.580 Yeah.

01:46:33.880 I mean, it's and me.

01:46:35.200 I have to say the same thing.

01:46:36.480 Yeah.

01:46:36.860 Pat, I would love to spend more time with you.

01:46:38.260 I've got to go up against the break here.

01:46:39.540 But good to see you.

01:46:40.600 Thank you so much.

01:46:41.240 Listen, we need you, Glenn.

01:46:42.940 More and more.

01:46:43.680 This Billy Graham magazine published after his death death.

01:46:48.380 It's called This Growing Darkness.

01:46:50.520 Yeah.

01:46:51.380 The one remedy for darkness is light.

01:46:55.880 Yeah.

01:46:56.520 Darkness cannot exist in light.

01:46:59.100 Yeah.

01:46:59.580 And you keep shining the light.

01:47:01.880 Thank you.

01:47:02.700 Keep it going because the darkness is trying to crowd in on us.

01:47:06.040 It has been it has been so nice to have you as a kind of a cheerleader in the background.

01:47:11.880 Always, always.

01:47:13.000 And I have early Fox days on.

01:47:15.020 So appreciate it.

01:47:16.160 Pat Boone.

01:47:16.900 All right.

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01:49:11.780 I am.

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01:49:21.420 I will be.

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The Glenn Beck Program - September 13, 2018

'American, Beyond Our Means'？ - 9⧸13⧸18

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