Are Russia & Ukraine FINALLY Nearing a Peace Deal? | 11⧸25⧸25
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On today's show, Glenn Beck is joined by Pat and Stu of American Giant to discuss the latest in the James Comey and Letitia James case, and the implications for the future of the Mueller investigation. Plus, the latest on the Trump administration's attempt to get rid of former FBI Director James Comey.
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Well, there's been a turn of events in the charges against James Comey and Letitia James.
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So, Federal Judge Cameron McGowan Curry dismissed the charges against ex-FBI Director James Comey
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and New York Attorney General Letitia James yesterday.
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Dismissed the case, which was brought by President Trump's hand-picked prosecutor in Northern Virginia, Lindsay Halligan,
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on the basis that Halligan is not lawfully serving as the interim United States Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia.
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Some would argue a bug of the Trump administration.
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You know, like, if you think back to traditional Republicans, right, that have been in office before.
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There's a complaint by many in the conservative movement or MAGA movement or whatever you want to call it these days is they are too buttoned up on traditions and process and rules and all these things that exist.
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Because sometimes for seemingly dumb reasons, right, like there's little tradition, oh, I would never do that.
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And one of the things I think that got Trump the nomination in 2016 and a victory again in 2024 was a lot of people saying stop with that, right?
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Like stop constantly every time we have a victory, stop, you know, grabbing it out of the grabbing defeat out of the jaws of victory for no real reason.
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And so it's become and this is a boring word to lead a show with, but it's a process question, right?
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It's about process and one of the it's simultaneously, I think, with the Trump administration, one of the reasons why people voted for Donald Trump is because he wasn't obsessed and got bogged down with every bit of process and tradition and, you know, unspoken, unwritten rules and all of that.
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He was willing to kind of just blow through a lot of that stuff to get stuff done.
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But it's a blessing and a curse because not every one of these things is an unwritten rule.
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Some of them are written rules, you know, and here, you know, he's in a bit of a gray area.
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We don't know exactly how this is going to work out.
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As you point out, we don't I mean, you know, the courts are going to rule on it.
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But, you know, he had a guy who was in this office as a in a temporary way and he didn't like what he was doing.
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It was coming up to the deadline to file these charges against these people.
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You know, whether this they don't necessarily admit that this was the reason, but it, you know, it was, in my opinion, that they they wanted to get these charges in before the deadline.
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The people, the career officials inside this office said they didn't have a case.
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So they were like, we need to get someone who's going to bring this case.
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So they brought in Lindsay Halligan, who had never prosecuted a case before in her life at any level.
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It doesn't even seem like she the reason why this was tossed out was not because she made some big mistake is what they're saying is you can't layer a temporary role on top of a temporary role.
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The way this is supposed to work is they there has to be advice and consent for the Senate.
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And they did not get that with not only Halligan, but also the previous guy who was in there.
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And we need to get advice and consent eventually.
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But if they don't get that, they can just put a temporary person in the role.
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What they can't do is put a temporary person in the role, fire them and put another temporary person in the role and just keep recycling through that until they get what they want.
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That's at least what the court is saying at this point.
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Now, whether that will be overturned by higher courts, we don't know yet.
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But a lot of this stuff, I'd argue the same thing happened with tariffs, is that they want to get something done.
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And I think Trump is a guy that comes to his people and says, look, this is what I want to do.
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I don't think Trump was like, I must have these tariffs through IEPA, this emergency rule.
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But you go out there, you find the path and find it, make it legal, make it constitutional.
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I don't think he's saying, oh, gosh, break the rules.
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I think he's saying, this is what I want to do.
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This is how he ran his real estate empire, right?
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And so his people, I don't know how they're doing this stuff.
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Some of this stuff, to me, sounds completely buttoned up.
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Some of it sounds like couldn't really find what they, what, you know, what they wanted.
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So sometimes it feels like they're just going to like chat GPT and saying whatever the first
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thing they could come up with is, honestly, is, you know, I don't know.
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The IEPA justification for tariffs falls into that category for me.
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And the Supreme Court is going to be ruling on this soon.
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But, you know, so it's a law that doesn't even mention the word tariffs.
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So, but they do that and then they get caught up in this process battle, which is somewhat
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distracting from what Trump actually wants to do.
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And sometimes, you know, as a blessing and a curse, some of this stuff has really helped.
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Some of it has pushed stuff through that's important.
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And sometimes we get caught up in court battles that actually derail the goal of the Trump
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It's just that, you know, the courts have been so intrusive into everything Trump has
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This is like another one where it's just like, okay, can you just let the executive branch
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I think it's 44, 45 or something in nine months.
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It's unbelievable when in eight years under Obama was something like 12.
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But it's amazing how he has been stymied at every turn.
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And I think a lot of times it's legitimate, right?
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Obviously, I think the courts have been kind of crazy against Donald Trump.
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I think that if he, it's an argument that I bet they're having behind closed doors often,
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We can try to be so buttoned up that we never get challenged in court, but we know what's
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Of course, we're going to get challenged in court.
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And of course, these courts are going to come after Donald Trump because they don't like
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So instead of worrying about all that up front, let's just roll the dice.
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Let's go down that path and see what the courts say.
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It's not a healthy way to be running a justice system, right?
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Like it should not be constantly, okay, the default judgment is against Donald Trump.
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So let's make his life as difficult as possible and let's see if he can navigate a way through
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Like that's, that shouldn't be, it shouldn't be the way it works.
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And the other part that's just agonizing is that it's given James Comey a victory here.
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About the appointment of the attorney general on that situation.
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I did think that that was going to be an issue.
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And I did think from the very beginning that Comey was going to have a valid legal argument.
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And what's interesting about the decision is it doesn't go to whether or not crimes are
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It just goes to the way in which the prosecutor was appointed.
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So I'm not surprised legally when it comes to that issue.
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That's not exactly what I thought it was going to be.
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I thought it was James Comey, but this is them explaining what you kind of just explained.
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But he comes out and talks about, you know, how he's been so wronged.
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And this is a victory for democracy and all that kind of stuff.
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And it's just agonizing, agonizing that he's, he's got this little win for now.
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If I had to give you a list of the people Donald Trump despises the most, would you put James
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Who else would you put on that list in a top five situation?
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Lately, it does seem like Thomas Massey's up there.
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He also called Rand Paul like a wacko lunatic or something the other day.
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I feel like, and let me push back on your top five list a little bit here, Pat.
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This is a revered list of who does Donald Trump hate the most.
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And unfortunately, the guy who's off this week, who probably a former member of that
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list, Glenn Beck, not here to chime in on this.
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But I think like Massey and Paul are interesting because at times he's okay with them.
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The reason why they disagree with Donald Trump on these things occasionally is because they
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They care about, you know, constitutional rules that a lot of times, you know, even conservatives
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Now, you could say they're right or wrong on that, but like they're not coming after Donald
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That is like, I think you can really make an argument that James Comey, you know, maybe this
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wasn't always true, but certainly it's true now.
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Just can't stand Donald Trump and would do anything he can to destroy the guy.
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And I think, and I don't think that's true with, I don't think that's true certainly
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I mean, he was very, very loyal to Donald Trump up until the very end where they got in this
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a bit of a, a little bit of a scuffle politically.
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Uh, so, but I think like oftentimes Massey and Rand Paul vote with Donald Trump.
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Like, I think that's how they think he thinks of them, but I don't think he despises those
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guys, even though he trashes them online sometimes.
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Like it's, it's more like personal, you know, I think his disagreements with Rand Paul are
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Like he gets annoyed because he's not doing a specific thing that he wants at that point
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where I think with James Comey, it is personal.
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I'm grateful that the court ended the case against me, which was a prosecution.
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Based on malevolence and incompetence and a reflection of what the Department of Justice
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has become under Donald Trump, which is heartbreaking.
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But I was also inspired by the example of the career people who refuse to be part of
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It costs some of them their jobs, which is painful, but it preserved their integrity,
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I was very lucky that some of us lawyers in America stepped forward to represent me.
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I hope they serve as an example to more and more lawyers, especially at some of the big
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firms, to participate in protecting our liberty, protecting the rule of law.
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And luckily for me, include some of those great lawyers.
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This case mattered to me personally, obviously, but it matters most because a message has to
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be sent that the President of the United States cannot use the Department of Justice
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They used the Department of Justice to prosecute an enemy.
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And it's just amazing that he can say that with a straight face.
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Here's the problem with that argument, though, from your perspective, Pat, is you're not
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The best thing for the left and the media would be if you forgot completely about that.
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What if, like, what if going forward, you didn't bring it up anymore?
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And, you know, that's a big part of my calculation.
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What's going to be helpful to the James Comeys and the entire left in this country?
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Well, it's so irritating because they showed no restraint whatsoever.
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They were like, hey, look, you know, January 6th.
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It wasn't like they came up with something like that.
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It's the same process argument we just had with Trump in a way.
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And that, like, they broke every rule, every tradition, breaking things like statute of limitations to go after Donald Trump.
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They went after him in any way they could possibly do, whether it was civil cases, criminal cases, pressures, trying to get him thrown off ballots, trying to, you know, get him constitutionally barred from office.
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Obviously, they tried to impeach him and did impeach him and tried to get him removed, failed there.
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They broke every single unwritten rule and many written rules to try to throw this man in prison so he would not get the job he currently has.
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You know, and then immediately, immediately when he's in the office and he does something they don't like, like, can you believe?
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The Department of Justice has always been so pristine.
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And now this man is using it against people from the opposing party.
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The other one I feel the same way about is, we are risking political violence.
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Some interesting things from Sean Duffy as we prepare for, I think, isn't tomorrow the biggest travel day of the year?
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So we're preparing for the biggest travel day of the year with this announcement from Sean Duffy.
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Some of you might have noticed that we've launched a civility campaign.
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And I think it's important as we travel that we think about not just ourselves, not just our families,
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In a busy time, and again, the airports are going to be packed, TSA lines may be a little longer,
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and you might not be able to find a seat as you're by your gate because of the number of flights that are going out or coming in.
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But I think we have to think about how do we do a better job?
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How do we maintain maybe some of that frustration we have as we travel this Thanksgiving season?
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Maybe we should say please and thank you to our pilots and to our flight attendants.
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I think, again, I call this just maybe dressing with some respect.
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You know, whether it's a pair of jeans and a decent shirt, I would encourage people to maybe dress a little better,
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which encourages us to maybe behave a little better.
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Let's try not to wear slippers and pajamas as we come to the airport.
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So dress a little nicer if you're going to the airport this year.
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He doesn't want to see you in pajamas and slippers, which I never see at the airport anyway.
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Do you see people, a lot of people wearing pajamas?
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Maybe on an overnight flight, the kids sometimes?
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But, like, there's a teenager thing where they wear pajamas all over the place these days.
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Pat, these, these children of today, they tend to wear their PJs to the airport.
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Um, I, like, I try to wear, look, I, you know, I like Sean, but I wear as comfortable clothing as possible to the airport.
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I don't, I've got three inches between me and the seat in front of me.
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Another thing the left are having a bit about is the fact that the Pentagon announced yesterday
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they're investigating Democrat Senator Mark Kelly of Arizona over possible breaches of military law
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after he joined a handful of other lawmakers in a video that called for troops to defy illegal orders.
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I mean, why are you saying this all of a sudden?
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They're just making stuff up out of whole cloth.
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How do you feel about the Pentagon investigating Mark Kelly?
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You know, a lot of it's complicated military rule or rules, right?
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Like all the people in the video, it's only Mark Kelly.
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My understanding of that is because he's the only one that's retired.
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You have to basically be out of the military for 20 years.
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This is my stupid, I never served for the country understanding of this.
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Maybe we'll be corrected if you know differently than this.
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But he basically is the only one that is in that category of retired, which means they
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And he can be asked about this and under the military code of justice, which came out in
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So anyway, long story short, there is a constitutional question to this in that he is in Congress
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and also has a responsibility through the military.
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So this is, I think, an interesting academic question here in a separation of powers sense
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that like, can the executive say you need to leave what you're doing in Congress?
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And by the way, when everyone says, oh, there's co-equal branches, really Congress is the superior
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I mean, you know, the president can't impeach a member of Congress.
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Congress can do lots of things that they are the superior branch in a way.
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And that's the argument that they're going to present, I'm sure, in court, whether it's
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to even whether as to whether he even has to respond to this as far as whether he did
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I think he definitely did something wrong, you know, morally, politically, because his
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motivation is not pure when it's when he says, OK, guys, no illegal orders.
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What they're trying to do is get the military not to listen to Trump.
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And, you know, his his language, I thought in all in that entire video, it was very clean.
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Like they knew the risk was there if they started saying, don't listen to Donald Trump.
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So I don't know that there's a legal case against them unless new information pops out.
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What they might be doing here, Pat, I don't I don't know.
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But what they might be doing is is trying to start a legal proceeding that allows them
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to look at maybe the messages that led to the video.
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And maybe in there they really they reveal their actual motivation for doing it.
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I don't think what we know publicly at this time would lead to that.
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And when I first saw it, my first thought was like, wait a minute, are you saying or
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you want the them to listen to the commander in chief that like that?
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You know, Glenn was talking about sedition and all these things.
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If we find more information that indicates that that might be a legitimate path.
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President Trump did ramp it up a little bit when he when he accused the lawmakers of sedition
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and and mentioned that sedition is punishable by death.
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So that made it seem to them supposedly like he's threatening to have them executed, which
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he's I don't think he was directly doing, but he's just reminding them, hey, if you commit
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sedition, if you commit treason, that's that's the only penalty that's actually spelled out
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in the Constitution and what it calls for is death.
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Well, it's an interesting distinction you're making there, Pat, because he kind of see
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this is a squawks that line a little bit and sometimes goes over the line just a tad.
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I think there is literally and I mean this literally I'm using the word correctly here.
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There's zero risk for any of these people to be executed.
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He sort of just said it right like that they deserve it.
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And this is why like a lot of the media nonsense is so irritating to me.
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He's not saying he's going to try them and execute them.
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But what he's trying to do, I assume, is number one, get under their skin.
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Number two, say, hey, this is a serious problem.
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And this is why what we talked about yesterday is true.
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There was no reason for that video to be released, to be produced and released.
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You're just, I mean, it's obvious what they're doing.
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They're just trying to impede Trump at every turn.
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And in a way that I think here is really dangerous.
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And this is their way of everything from the baseline level, Pat, of they're trying to stir up whistleblowers.
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They're trying to get people who are against Trump in the White House or excuse me, in the military to say, hey, this is wrong.
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Bigger than that, I think there is a a they would they would absolutely love a high profile military member to come out in public and say, we are not allowed to go in these cities.
00:32:49.980
Now, it might be more than that, but I think that that's, you know, probably a good chunk of what they're attempting to do here.
00:32:58.220
They're trying to be able to have people they can they can file lawsuits through.
00:33:04.340
They're trying to stir up all sorts of opposition within the ranks because, you know, they hate him more than anything in the world.
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And they're like, I don't think any of them have a high enough profile that I could honestly like separate them from the average Democrat.
00:33:34.600
Like there's not there's no one really of no I mean, Mark Kelly is the biggest one.
00:33:37.740
And again, Kelly was overlooked by vice president.
00:33:41.460
This is something I did very well on prediction markets on Pat was I looked at.
00:33:47.220
I even said this on the air when we were talking about who are they going to who is Kamala going to pick for VP.
00:33:52.800
And I went I went through this part of the process I go through when I'm looking at on paper and I look through all those people on paper Shapiro and walls and all of them.
00:34:03.460
And I looked at Mark Kelly and I was like, on paper, he is the best choice.
00:34:10.000
You've got a guy who served in the military or, you know, he can give you that astronaut, you know, all these things.
00:34:17.500
I went through the whole thing and I was like, on paper, this is the guy.
00:34:21.040
And I said on the air, I still have to do my film study, though.
00:34:24.700
You know, when you listen, you know, you listen to if you're a fan of an NFL team and you like listen to all their podcasts and stuff, they'll go through.
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And every once you'll get a podcast on film study, they'll be like, this is they're running this pattern too much.
00:34:35.620
Their defense is lining up in this formation too often against this, you know, the nerds, the nerd stuff.
00:34:40.960
And film study for that, for me, is I go watch.
00:34:47.360
How just take out the policy, take out his credentials.
00:34:56.780
Remember, in a vice presidential debate, all of that.
00:34:59.180
There's only one thing that really matters when you pick a vice president when it comes down to it, which is how does he do in that debate?
00:35:05.740
Like, they're really the only thing that matters.
00:35:07.460
And I watched a bunch of debates and press conferences and speeches, and I was like, they are not picking this guy.
00:35:21.260
Now, you see him at certain times, and he's pretty natural when he's on his turf.
00:35:25.520
When he's talking about something he cares about, he's not bad.
00:35:29.380
When you put him in a position of a debate, he's just really bad at it.
00:35:37.760
And so, that was when I was like, you know, buying shares of no, because I just didn't think it was going to happen.
00:35:45.000
Now, I have to admit on that one, I was also shocked that they picked Tim Walls.
00:36:08.940
I don't know how they stumbled on him, but I'm glad they did.
00:36:12.620
He did eat up some of my profits from the Mark Kelly decision, unfortunately.
00:36:19.240
I was like, there's no way they're going to pick Tim Walls.
00:36:26.240
So, again, my point there is that none of these people are really of note.
00:36:35.720
Honestly, when I watched the video, I didn't know they were all congressmen.
00:36:42.500
I think Mark Kelly was the only one I recognized.
00:36:50.560
It's like they were like the John Tyler of congressmen.
00:36:53.540
Like, wait, John Tyler was a president of the United States?
00:37:05.480
And so, I think a lot of it is, you know, they just, you know, well, they were in the CIA or they were in the military.
00:37:12.100
That's really their only qualification for anyone caring about what they would say.
00:37:16.100
And Kelly's the only one of note that would be even worth going after, I think.
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The only reason we know about him is because he was an astronaut.
00:37:24.440
I mean, nobody knows anything about his time in Congress.
00:37:39.560
You know, he does it at every single opportunity, including this one, by the way.
00:37:44.100
Exploit the terrible tragedy that happened to his wife.
00:37:48.000
This happened with this case because of, as you mentioned, Donald Trump's, what is it, truth about the death penalty.
00:37:57.840
It was like, wait, this is not a time to bring up political violence.
00:38:01.060
I know a little something about political violence.
00:38:05.460
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He had a fascination with structures of sentences and punctuation.
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We should have blamed English teachers for that shooting.
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And in fact, if it does happen, they're killing Christians and Muslims.
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Well, he kind of clears up what is going on there, and it's a radicalized faction of Islam called the Fulani tribe, which I guess has exploded in population over the last 30 years.
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In fact, Nigeria used to have a 70% Christian population.
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It's gone from 70% to about half and half now because of the slaughter of Christians.
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and we were somewhat opposed to it, I would say.
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It was Barack Obama, wanted this Obamacare thing.
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We wanted tonsils to be piled up in the streets.
00:49:01.140
These evil doctors are just taking out tonsils and amputating feet.
00:49:05.040
If you remember at the time, there was a big problem with feet.
00:49:09.920
Kind of piled up on the side of the road at almost every intersection
00:49:14.720
You come in for a cold, they chop off your foot.
00:49:20.380
If you can get an extra $500, you're going to take somebody's feet off.
00:49:25.060
Your hometown doctor would rather you have no feet.
00:49:34.760
And we were like, let's continue that problem going forward.
00:49:38.720
We loved it when people lost their feet for no apparent reason.
00:49:43.200
I will say we've always been anti-tonsil here on the Glenn Beck program.
00:49:52.200
We were like, what can we do that's different than what everyone else is doing?
00:49:54.980
We're like, what if we're just taking a strong stance against tonsils?
00:50:03.420
Glenn was like, I want every person's feet to be removed.
00:50:09.780
That was a big Glenn policy at the beginning of the show.
00:50:12.500
And I think we won that battle for a long time until that dastardly Barack Obama came
00:50:19.520
I want people's feet to be attached to their legs.
00:50:26.440
We were like, what kind of position is that to take?
00:50:29.800
And somehow he won with his Obamacare, which solved all of our health care concerns.
00:50:34.740
And you remember when it went down $2,500 per year per family?
00:50:42.780
Because what happened was it just became so routine to me, saving the $2,500 every year
00:50:49.180
That I just kept spending and spending, spending.
00:50:54.040
He just thought that bonus was part of his salary.
00:50:56.540
And then they gave him the Jelly of the Month Club membership.
00:50:59.460
And he was very disappointed in that because he depended on it for part of his salary.
00:51:05.400
However, in this case, these doctors were depending on the foot amputation fees they were receiving.
00:51:14.660
That's why so many doctors went out of business almost instantly.
00:51:18.660
No doctors left in this country until Obamacare came and solved that problem, too.
00:51:23.040
We had a lot of problems with our health care, Pat, until Obamacare came around.
00:51:26.340
And as you remember, it was pitched to us as this big solution to all of our problems when it came to health care.
00:51:34.840
Well, first of all, it's made everything worse.
00:51:39.280
Still feet and tonsils piled up all over the place.
00:51:41.360
If you liked your doctor, it didn't matter to the government.
00:51:43.520
If they didn't like your doctor, you couldn't keep your doctor.
00:51:46.200
So all of the promises of this were, of course, failures.
00:51:48.880
But what I find to be most interesting about all of this, Pat, though, is not that conservatives were completely right about basically every single aspect of this plan and how it was going to fail.
00:52:02.300
What I find to be just wonderful is, come back to sarcasm now, just wonderful is the fact that the hardcore conservative position currently is, what if we just keep regular Obamacare?
00:52:28.440
And honestly, that's aspirational because it seems like the Senate and House and President are going to line up behind a deal that is going to allow the enhanced subsidies to continue for some concession.
00:52:42.700
May I ask you a question in regards to this whole thing?
00:52:45.840
But don't we have a majority in Congress right now where we don't have to put up with this?
00:53:04.160
How did this happen where they just don't do anything about it now?
00:53:11.160
Well, I mean, they act as if the John McCain thumbs down was the end of their.
00:53:21.620
And so, therefore, we could never address this problem ever again.
00:53:29.040
And if we don't give them their free money, they won't have their free money.
00:53:33.460
Look, there are people who don't have enough money to afford health care.
00:53:50.480
That's a different program which exists and, by the way, is also not the conservative position to get rid of that.
00:54:00.360
None of these things are even considered by the right anymore to get rid of.
00:54:04.140
Despite the fact that it's obviously consistent with what we believe the government should be doing, we just ignore it and continue to pay out trillions of dollars for all these programs.
00:54:14.480
But you might say, Pat, what about those enhanced subsidies?
00:54:20.880
And to rewind a little bit here for people who maybe have not followed the back and forth of every part of this debate.
00:54:30.920
What we say is, hey, there's going to be problems with all these risk pools that you are creating because what you're asking to occur is that a bunch of healthy people are going to pay for the health care of a bunch of sick people.
00:54:44.080
And a bunch of young people who are generally expected to be healthy are going to pay for the health care of a bunch of older people.
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You can't constitutionally force them to do it.
00:54:59.840
But you can't constitutionally force them to do that.
00:55:03.060
So you're going to have a situation where younger people are going to be like, well, my rates keep going up and up and up and up and up.
00:55:08.400
And I'm not even using this health care system.
00:55:14.840
So the rate now we have a bunch of sick people in a risk pool and the rates keep going up.
00:55:19.900
And then that means more healthy people drop out and then the rates go up and then more healthy people drop out and then the rates go up and then more healthy.
00:55:25.580
So now that's why the rates have gone through the roof over these years.
00:55:28.100
This is why what you're feeling if you're in Obamacare is real.
00:55:30.940
This is something very much predicted by every single critic of Obamacare.
00:55:40.580
And luckily for the Democrats, they are able to take advantage of emergency.
00:55:44.520
Someone once said, never let a crisis go to waste.
00:55:46.960
So the way they did not let that crisis go to waste in this particular instance was to add enhanced subsidies on top of the already generous subsidies that the government gives people to buy Obamacare, depending on your situation.
00:56:07.440
And maybe you could justify it, Pat, through 2021.
00:56:13.060
Again, I tend to not like those approaches, but it was a crazy time.
00:56:36.820
What you may remember is, of course, Joe Biden was elected.
00:56:39.240
He goes into office and then he has a different opinion on what we should do.
00:56:49.560
These extensions are now going away and enhanced subsidies means basically more free money on top of the free money already out of Obamacare.
00:56:56.040
So what conservatives at that time were saying was, hey, let's be really conservative and put Obamacare into place.
00:57:04.820
And then liberals are saying, no, Obamacare would be a disaster and hurt lots of families.
00:57:10.500
What we need is a lot more money on top of Obamacare, enhanced Obamacare, a new Coke Obamacare on top of it.
00:57:17.900
And Republicans are like, oh, I want Obamacare classic.
00:57:20.660
That's legitimately what the argument was during the shutdown.
00:57:27.480
And Republicans are now admitting their actual position, which is we actually want to go to the enhanced subsidies for more time.
00:57:36.080
I don't know if people understand this because a lot of people think, oh, well, poor people need health care.
00:57:44.600
Obama, how many people you have in your family, Pat?
00:57:46.460
You have a let's go back to you when you're 300, about 300.
00:57:50.340
No, I mean, in your in your in your direct family, in your household.
00:57:55.460
Right now, two hundred and two hundred and seven.
00:58:00.620
You know, I was thinking, though, like when you have all your kids in the house, like they're all in school.
00:58:07.580
So what Obamacare says is, I don't think I don't think your parents would be caught.
00:58:12.680
This would be depend dependents only, but I don't know how that would work.
00:58:15.400
But OK, I think it's only let's just count the six.
00:58:17.940
Let's take you back to like you're in kids are in, you know, from high school down to grade school.
00:58:23.520
You're putting them all in your on the health Obamacare program.
00:58:31.520
Says that you should get free money for health care if you earn less than one hundred and seventy two thousand six hundred dollars.
00:58:45.140
What the Obama make one hundred and seventy one thousand dollars.
00:58:53.420
One hundred and seventy two thousand six hundred dollars or less.
00:59:02.120
representatives, than the congressmen and senators.
00:59:09.320
Now, the enhanced subsidies, they have different programs.
00:59:15.700
So what now enhanced subsidies are all different and everything else.
00:59:24.120
What Republicans are saying is, hey, we can't make this like unlimited because what the enhanced subsidies did is basically took away a lot of the limits.
00:59:31.220
What Republicans are saying, we need a conservative approach.
00:59:35.380
So the conservatives are stepping up and they're saying, hey, it's ridiculous.
00:59:43.900
That would be insane to implement that sort of limit.
00:59:46.260
But what we suggest as conservatives is a limit of three hundred and two thousand.
00:59:57.220
Obamacare subsidies should apply to a family making three hundred thousand dollars a year.
01:00:10.340
We're saying, hey, guys, sure, we'll give you these enhanced subsidies for a couple of years.
01:00:14.660
But we got to limit the income to three hundred thousand for a family of six.
01:00:25.640
What they are saying is they don't want to be responsible for people having their health care bills go up.
01:00:33.280
And what they're doing, to be clear, cowards, folding, they're cowards, folding to this pressure.
01:00:43.280
Republicans are the majority in the House and in the Senate.
01:00:54.980
What is their demand to be higher and more unlimited?
01:01:01.860
You know, off the top of my head, I can't remember.
01:01:05.780
I thought if I'm remembering right, it's been a couple of weeks since I did.
01:01:09.540
I did a monologue on Studios America about this.
01:01:11.240
You want to go back and nerd out on the details of the program.
01:01:14.440
But off the top of my head, I remember they removed the limits because of the covid thing and then extended that.
01:01:21.680
And most people who are making this type of money are in the Obamacare program.
01:01:28.620
They're getting their health care through the employer, which is, by the way, a whole nother set of problems.
01:01:31.860
Like, yeah, that would be something that would be great if we could solve.
01:01:34.940
And maybe Republicans could come up with a plan that addresses core parts of this program.
01:01:41.120
I think the issue here is they just are afraid whatever they do is going to come off as mean.
01:01:48.700
They're going to try to limit the damage of a program they say they don't like.
01:01:52.940
But honestly, I don't know what evidence there is of that at this point.
01:02:00.820
You know, we should be proposing something that is dynamic and new and different that changes the system, actually solves these problems for people long term.
01:02:10.160
But I don't think it's a huge priority of anybody in Congress or anybody in Washington, frankly.
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01:03:34.760
All of this stuff that has been put in place because of the pandemic, it's not just health care.
01:03:49.020
The drop boxes were put out so that you didn't have to be around a bunch of people at the polling place.
01:03:57.180
A lot of mail-in, new mail-in restrictions or non-restrictions.
01:04:06.460
And we can't get rid of any of it now because the Democrats cry about it every single time.
01:04:10.520
And then if you change any of it, like we were thinking that we wouldn't have Toyota Corollas owned by government employees driving around and picking up ballots in packs of 300 from each household.
01:04:23.740
If you think if you want to limit that program, then you hate democracy.
01:04:31.240
Some states have curbed some of it, but not in impressive ways.
01:04:35.100
You know, I think at times we lose track as to how damaging that period was.
01:04:42.840
There's, you know, there's a lot of like the first level concerns, but how much damage was done through the COVID period.
01:04:53.160
Another example of this, and I'm convinced of this largely.
01:04:55.880
I could potentially theoretically be wrong on it, so I will admit that.
01:05:03.260
You probably saw it, Pat, that showed home ownership for first time home buyers.
01:05:12.620
And people are like, you know, since, you know, we were kids, the numbers change from like 32 to 40 for first time home buyers.
01:05:27.100
However, looking at the data, I'm pretty convinced that the problem is almost exclusively from COVID.
01:05:36.620
Because when you look at it, that 32-year-old first-time buyer holds from the time when I was in high school all the way till 2019.
01:05:48.040
You know, it bounces up to 33, down to 29 or whatever, a couple times in that range, you know, over a long period of time.
01:05:54.380
But it stays really consistent right around that 32 number until 2019.
01:06:01.200
And I, if you think about what happened with COVID, right?
01:06:20.000
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It looks like Ukraine has agreed to some kind of deal.
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We don't know if it's the 28-point plan that President Trump proposed.
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I don't know if it's the alteration from the European Union.
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But they've come away saying, yeah, we've agreed on the essence of a peace agreement.
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At least the U.S. and Ukraine have agreed on that agreement.
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I mean, it's a pretty good plan, seemingly, for Russia.
01:09:54.760
And just to stop there for one second, Pat, it's more territory than they currently have.
01:10:00.880
So, basically, like, even the stuff that Ukraine has protected successfully all this time, they have to give up a big chunk of that and let Russia get past some really important strategic lines.
01:10:18.140
But it is very – we've had these situations before, and this is, I think, part of the Trump foreign policy, you know, approach, is to say, hey, we agreed.
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And then let everyone come out and say, wait, what are you talking about?
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Basically, every side is saying, except for Russia, we've agreed to something.
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We think it's based on this 28-point plan, but we don't actually know that yet.
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It included Russia rejoining the G7, which would then be the G8 again.
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And it included Ukraine limiting their army in some way to a certain number that I guess would be agreed upon between them.
01:11:12.540
It's like a big reduction in their army and that they can never join NATO.
01:11:17.140
Now, that was kind of agreed upon by us a long time ago.
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I have very little sympathy for Russia's arguments in most of this.
01:11:34.400
And I've used the example that how would we feel if it was Cuba?
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If Cuba was joining the Soviet Union in some sort of military pact?
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I mean, we went through that, essentially, when they were during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
01:11:57.580
And there always are differences in these situations.
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But, I mean, I think that was a more imminent threat than what Ukraine was proposing towards Russia at that time.
01:12:10.200
And I do believe that they are the most wrong in this particular conflict.
01:12:15.400
That does not mean Ukraine is perfect and that I love everybody in their leadership.
01:12:24.060
There was a time in which that did seem to be the case.
01:12:26.800
If you did not love everybody in Ukraine's leadership, you were evil.
01:12:29.520
If you weren't flying a Ukrainian flag, you were a traitor.
01:12:32.520
You know, I never changed a profile picture on that one there.
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If what they agreed to is what was reported, I'm surprised they agreed to it.
01:12:49.980
I don't know why Russia wouldn't agree to it, other than the fact that Russia actually wants the entire country, and that's what they were going for initially.
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And maybe they think Ukraine is in such a weak position they can get it.
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I think they should agree to something that, you know, my thought was, I don't know, maybe where the lines are now.
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And I think it's completely insane, too, for the country that got invaded to have to cut their military.
01:13:28.220
Like, that is, that's the type of agreement you make when you're surrendering.
01:13:34.580
Not one you make in a, quote, unquote, peace negotiation, which the surrender is largely, potentially, at least, based on the fact that, you know, maybe we, maybe we didn't say the Biden standard of anything you want.
01:13:49.320
Anytime, anytime you want, anytime you want for as long as you want is going to be upheld.
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And I think that's something we should have said to them privately a long time ago.
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Hey, just so you know, in one year from today, in six months from today, this is all going away from us.
01:14:10.760
It must have been because they clearly are in a much different position right now than they were before.
01:14:18.160
In fact, an official in Zelensky's office said that if the deal was the framework from Geneva, we're OK with it.
01:14:29.720
So that included all the things we just talked about, the framework from Geneva.
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In fact, the European framework was even worse than what President Trump proposed.
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It had more restrictions on them and and and more concessions for them.
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I don't I don't remember all the specific details, but they seem to be even more hardcore than the 28 points that Trump proposed.
01:15:03.780
I mean, so there's no way Zelensky survived signing that deal.
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I don't mean that physically, but I mean, that is in a leadership position like his country is not going to stand for it.
01:15:14.660
I mean, Russia is not going to stand for it probably either.
01:15:21.380
Because I I'm a little nervous that we're we're giving up on our anything you want, any time you want for as long as you want philosophy.
01:15:29.580
What if for every mile they lose in territory to Russia, we give them those square miles in the United States?
01:15:43.980
Like we give them Alaska or at least part of it or it's cold.
01:15:50.440
You want to give them Hawaii or maybe a little of each.
01:15:56.300
And like several islands in and we don't need all of those islands in Hawaii and they need a place to vacation.
01:16:08.080
I think that's probably a legitimate way of going.
01:16:10.300
So you give them half of Alaska, which would be about the size of Texas.
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And I think if we go through a draft and I think it's a snake draft.
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So whoever gets the first pick also gets the second and third.
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Maybe we just give them their pick of five states.
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And hopefully they don't take advantage of us, you know, and go after.
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California might actually run better under the Ukrainian government than Gavin Newsom.
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It's unfair that we have not, we will not provide them anything until eternity.
01:17:30.240
It's such an interesting question, Pat, because as an American, what I care about most is America.
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You don't care about Ukraine more than America?
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I mean, I care about people living and dying, but my, my policy as a, as a government, if
01:17:59.480
that's my role in this particular conversation, is to put American interests first.
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And, you know, there's a lot of people, you say America first, and it means a lot of things
01:18:10.480
I will say it's been used in very bad ways in history, that particular phrase.
01:18:14.080
But it is, of course, a very logical position for a country to have.
01:18:18.860
Now, I am not of the, there's a new kind of addition to that, America only, which I
01:18:25.980
I don't, you know, as a person of faith, I don't think everyone, I don't, I don't, I
01:18:30.520
don't come to a place where I think everyone in every other country, ah, screw them.
01:18:33.740
I'm like, that's not what I, I just don't find that to be a position that is consistent
01:18:40.380
That being said, it is not, as a government policy, we should be trying to do the best
01:18:47.440
And I believe the best thing that we can for our country in this period is to make sure
01:18:51.220
that this conflict does not end up with nuclear weapons flying all over the globe.
01:19:00.960
And I'm less concerned about it today with President Trump in office, and that I think
01:19:06.220
that he is a more consistent, a more confident in his level of leadership than I was in the
01:19:15.020
I thought it was underplayed as a risk as to how close we were with, with our president
01:19:20.960
coming out and saying, I'll give, hey, hey, other nuclear superpower, we will give anything
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that they want for any amount of time that they want in perpetuity to your opponent in war
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And I was worried that that could spiral out of control.
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I'm a little bit less worried about it now, but still, I think it's the main thing that
01:19:43.960
And so ending this conflict, to me, as an American, I really, at this point, don't care
01:19:52.300
all that much about a few miles here and there of territory, because that's my priority.
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However, if I happen to be a Ukrainian citizen, if I were a Ukrainian talk show host, they're
01:20:08.980
A Ukrainian official deeply involved, this says, with the ceasefire negotiations, said
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that the United States appears to have agreed to the documents set out by Europe's allies
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in Geneva over the weekend, and it's not the U.S. plan.
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I don't think the U.S. plan could stand up to Ukraine.
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I give Trump a lot of credit for getting a starting point.
01:20:38.560
No one says anything, because they're like, oh, well, they never accept that, so we never
01:20:41.920
Trump is like, no, let's just put a proposal down and make them disagree.
01:20:44.960
He does this all over the world, and it's worked all over the world.
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If you come in and you want to buy a building that they don't necessarily want to sell, you
01:21:00.880
You have a beginning point and an end point, and you try to find a place in the middle.
01:21:04.380
That's what he does all over the globe, and it has worked many times.
01:21:10.340
But it seems to me hard to believe that the Ukrainians could possibly accept a situation
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where they lose more land than they've already lost and shrink their military at the same
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It's just inviting another invasion as soon as they build their military up again in
01:21:28.680
There is speculation that they're just plain running out of people to fight this war.
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Outside of a real surrender, which might be where they are.
01:21:37.660
But that's not, at least where the war nerds that have all the maps out, they're not necessarily
01:21:43.840
Like, you know, the people who really study this on a day-to-day basis, the think tanks
01:21:47.500
that are looking at, you know, the lines of control and really monitoring over the minutiae
01:21:52.500
of this, they don't say, they say more stalemate than they say Russia's about to win and overtake
01:22:03.540
And I think the reality is closer to Russia's about to win this thing.
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If the writing's on the wall eventually, well, then I suppose maybe you've saved some lives
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If you can get real security lines built up, that's been my argument from the beginning.
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Like, I don't mind helping Ukraine, but with sales, of defenses there to make sure that
01:22:37.340
line is so impossible to cross next time that it is- you know, those lines are really built
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I don't mind being supportive to them on that because they shouldn't- Russia shouldn't be
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Keep your powder dry and your conscience clear.
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It looks like it's a little different than President Trump proposed.
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And this is, I guess, there's got some, there's some similarities to it, but it's not completely
01:24:47.520
And some of, so much of the back and forth gets really, really difficult to understand
01:24:51.020
because you have to go really deep and understand, you know, centuries of history to really put
01:24:58.620
But to try to boil it down, if you don't understand this at that level, basically Ukraine is a country
01:25:09.620
And it exists next to another country called Russia.
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And Russia decided to invade a smaller country called Ukraine.
01:25:45.840
I've had to go deep into policy papers and foreign affairs think tanks to get that information.
01:25:55.660
It was something that you may have remembered Kamala Harris saying.
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I like to think I'm a smart guy, but I'm not that smart.
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It looks like we were talking about the potential peace agreement between Ukraine and Russia.
01:26:45.480
It looks like while we're finalizing the details of this with Ukraine, Russia is apparently unlikely to accept the changes in the new peace plan to end the war.
01:27:02.860
They don't want to give up anything, basically.
01:27:06.480
And their proposal, which, you know, some people argued was essentially what Trump was floating.
01:27:14.580
And, by the way, even if he was just floating their proposal, it's still a positive move towards peace.
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But Russia's demands were so extreme, it didn't seem like they'd be agreeing to anything like this.
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But I think, again, the other side of this is true, too.
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Trump and the Trump side coming out and saying, hey, we've agreed, is the same thing he did in Israel, right?
01:27:49.520
And so now everyone has to scramble to try to push back against that, which, again, is better than what we had yesterday.
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Stu, I know what a huge fan you are of the WNBA.
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Oh, I mean, you know, do you ever miss a game ever?
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I have never missed a WNBA game since the launch of the league.
01:30:55.260
Because I have a huge passion for watching mediocre basketball.
01:31:01.060
It's utterly fantastic to see teams that, you know, sure, they might lose to ninth grade
01:31:08.420
boys teams frequently if they played, but I want to know who's the best at that level.
01:31:23.080
So you want to know who's the best at a really bad level is what your thing is.
01:31:26.900
Like, I'm not interested in who's the best in the world, for example.
01:31:29.020
What I'm interested in is that if you take out, you know, say, the top 20 million people
01:31:35.240
in the world, maybe 50, maybe 100 million people.
01:31:51.360
You know, there's been a little bit of a squabble over the last week or so because NBA players
01:31:57.540
Michael Porter Jr. and Lonzo Ball, along with former pro, LiAngelo Ball, shot down some
01:32:07.880
Now, Paige said she could beat NBA player Josh Hart in a one-on-one competition.
01:32:19.420
Maybe if you had, maybe if Barack Obama was right and they amputated his feet.
01:32:28.980
I really, he might on pegs be able to still beat Paige Buechers.
01:32:34.560
And I'm joking at some level here, but like, Paige Buechers is incredible.
01:32:40.080
And, you know, she is an amazing athlete and there's a lot of great things to say.
01:32:44.200
That does not mean she could beat an NBA player in one-on-one.
01:32:53.760
And so they're getting a bunch of flack, whereas then Sophie Cunningham from the Indiana
01:33:04.620
And you know she's going to get hammered for it by her.
01:33:09.520
She's just like, I'm just going to say what I believe.
01:33:15.060
And she defended, what's her face when she was under fire, you know, in a game.
01:33:22.000
Yeah, she's like, I'm going to step up for her no matter what.
01:33:26.460
And she said, this is my personal opinion, but if you're a professional football player,
01:33:30.220
basketball player, you're in that elite level group, then yes, you should be able to beat
01:33:39.160
So she was saying a high school male, if he's, you know, on the way to the NBA, could
01:33:54.140
Like, you know, BYU just got AJ DeBonta last year and he's playing now this year.
01:34:03.360
That kid could have easily beaten any WNBA player.
01:34:17.420
And you know, she's going to get flack from other members of the WNBA, but it's, it's just
01:34:24.840
She's going to get pounded for telling the truth, but it doesn't make any sense to try
01:34:32.480
I mean, we've seen it play out in all kinds of sports, tennis, soccer.
01:34:38.080
I don't know that WNBA players have ever played anybody in the NBA.
01:34:51.780
And like, you know, if we did a two on two, Pat Grace, Stu Bergier versus Sophie Cunningham
01:34:56.520
and Caitlin Clark, we would lose very dramatically.
01:35:01.080
But when you're talking about skilled athletes.
01:35:03.980
It's not to say that no woman at any level can beat any male at any level.
01:35:10.280
But, and I think Lonzo Ball made this point in that podcast.
01:35:13.240
Like his team of ninth graders would be able to beat any WNBA team.
01:35:23.840
You know, but I don't think, I think it's, I don't even know if we've hit the limit.
01:35:31.520
Like you can't, like if you've ever played basketball and you're against someone who's,
01:35:36.720
you know, tiny and skinny and is not like the difference between a fully developed
01:35:42.580
male physique, even in high school is so dramatically different than what you're going to get out
01:35:53.140
You're going to be able to bully them around and get rebounds.
01:35:55.220
Again, unless you're having some sort of curve where the refs are calling things they wouldn't
01:36:00.720
normally call, you're going to be able to just get to the ball.
01:36:06.280
It's going to be impossible for them to get rebounds.
01:36:13.600
I think even when you're talking division two and division three type athletes, like I
01:36:18.120
have someone who I know who has played division three basketball and, and he said, look, our
01:36:28.260
And he's like, the problem with it is just, you'd be able to back them down so easily
01:36:40.520
It's hard to get to play in division two and division three.
01:36:44.300
You're probably the best player in your high school team.
01:36:46.340
It's like an all-star team of that for, in most areas.
01:36:54.120
I don't know why, like, why can't we just, why doesn't, why don't we just do this?
01:37:01.340
Like there, have the WNBA champion play an NBA team.
01:37:08.380
I think we even start, do you, do you know, uh, do you know, dude perfect?
01:37:13.560
So they do, you know, they're famous for trick shots and, you know, comedy videos and all sorts
01:37:17.020
of different things, but they did one that my son was watching.
01:37:20.040
So, and, uh, one of the guys and dude perfect did a challenge where he had to get a hit
01:37:26.460
off of an increasingly difficult level of pitcher.
01:37:30.260
Now he's a good athlete, like Tyler is the guy who did it, but he was, he's a good athlete.
01:37:35.700
And, and he, you know, but he's not a professional baseball player.
01:37:39.220
So they started off with him versus a little league pitcher and they kept escalating it.
01:37:43.880
And he would like, they needed a high school pitcher, I think, and then a, um, uh, college
01:37:49.060
pitcher and then a major, major league pitcher.
01:37:53.060
And they went to, uh, I think it was Texas Rangers camp a couple of years ago and did
01:37:57.460
And so he starts off, obviously no problem hitting off of a, an eight year old or whatever.
01:38:03.240
Like some of them are really easy, but as you get up at level, you're facing a high school
01:38:06.880
pitcher and then a college pitcher and guys throwing like, you know, low eighties and can
01:38:12.040
And then he goes up against who was the closer at the time, uh, the Rangers, but like, it
01:38:16.060
was really interesting to see he wound up getting a hit, uh, off of, uh, a little bloop
01:38:20.760
single off of the closer of the Rangers, which is pretty impressive, honestly.
01:38:25.720
It would be hard to do, but like that being said, this is a, you want to talk about a way
01:38:31.220
to bring in some, uh, some real revenue to women's sports.
01:38:34.600
I would be absolutely glued to the television if they started a WNBA, it starts off with them
01:38:40.000
like playing like a rec team of like eight year olds and it just slowly, every week ramps
01:38:50.320
If they didn't find that insulting, it would be fun to watch.
01:38:53.160
You know, they would never do it, but it'd be fun.
01:39:03.060
When you got to the point like where, and I think the, the risk of all of this would
01:39:09.340
They would, there'd probably be things said behind the scenes.
01:39:17.080
God only knows what they would do to protect this idiocy of Billie Jean King that we're all
01:39:25.340
The whole thing, I, you know, the guy, you know, Billie Jean King in that match, what was
01:39:30.180
the guy's name, um, oh God, Bobby, uh, Bobby, uh, gosh, I'm sorry.
01:39:49.160
And by the way, this goes without questionable about how that went down.
01:39:55.240
I didn't say look up any name with Bobby in it.
01:39:58.340
I'm looking for the actual person who went up against Billie Jean King in the famous
01:40:07.260
And he, he actually did lose to Billie Jean King, but like a month or two before that,
01:40:15.520
Which gets you real questions about whether he was trying in that match.
01:40:25.380
More than speculation that he kind of threw that.
01:40:30.900
I mean, Serena Williams talked about it, uh, that she would lose to Andy Murray, who at
01:40:36.000
the time when she was on the Letterman show and, uh, this was, so this was years ago.
01:40:44.360
And, uh, Letterman was asking about her playing the number one man in the world, because I guess
01:40:51.820
And she said, I would never do that because Andy Murray would beat me zero, zero.
01:40:56.900
I might not score a point and it would take five minutes, maybe 10.
01:41:00.900
She said, it's just a different game that the men play.
01:41:06.060
The ball comes at you way faster and they're more athletic.
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And so, you know, you look at soccer, the world of soccer, the best team in the world.
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The U S women's national team played against, uh, teenagers multiple times, including here
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in Dallas, they played against a Dallas team, uh, of under 14.
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So it's, it's 13 and 14 and maybe some 15 year olds.
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And they lost five to two, they played against the Wrexham team in England during some kind
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of tournament and they had to stop the game because it was 12 to nothing.
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And it was embarrassing to the women's national team.
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There are differences between men and women and you're not supposed to notice it anymore
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or acknowledge it, but it doesn't change the fact that it's there.
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And this is not important because we, Hey, we're dunking on a bunch of women, either literally
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The point of this is, is we as a society have lost the ability to say true things.
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When, when everyone knows something is true, every piece of evidence points one way and
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we will have a controversy as to whether it's true or not.
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The internet has made us dumber, but at the end of the day, we all know certain things
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And the fact that we can't without, with all of this evidence can't get the other side
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How do you negotiate what is right when it comes to tax rates with a side that won't
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admit the most basic, obvious thing in the world that everyone knows is true?
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Why won't, why can't we, if you can't bridge a gap like this, this is why I think this is
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If you can't bridge a gap like this, what, what can you have?
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You can't have a rational conversation with people who can't admit this type of stuff because
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of what, you know, and these things permeate our politics in real ways.
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Like the same instinct that makes the media act as if the WNBA players could beat the NBA
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That same instinct is the same instinct that says, well, we can't admit that a woman who
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We can't say, hey, it's wrong for a guy to have his junk out in front of a bunch of
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If you can't make judgments based on really obvious things, things that the women in the
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locker room would say were really obvious, you really can't make any judgment as to
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If you can't agree on basic truths, you can't have basic conversations.
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And these are really obvious things that everyone knows.
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Everyone, including the left, everybody there, everyone on the left knows this is true.
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They'll lie to you and tell you they think that dude who just said they're a chick today
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And that's the press trying to make a big deal out of some health problem that apparently
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He was just out with his grandson over the weekend, showing him around the White House.
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And they were snapping photos of him and saying that he was dragging his left leg.
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And then you go to the video, and they included the video, and he's not dragging his left leg.
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I don't know how they get away with this stuff continually.
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These are the same people who, for four years—I don't even have to finish, right?
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It's for four years of the Biden administration—swore up and down that he was perfectly fine.
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Now that it's over, they all say, oh, yeah, obviously.
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Oh, fuck, here's the guy with decrepit in every way, including mentally.
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Total catastrophe, but they could—and, by the way, the same people who also were critical
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of Republicans for pointing out that Hillary Clinton was having health issues.
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Terminal's not the right word for Biden, but that's the one I want to use.
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Pronounced, as it may be, as long-lasting or whatever it was with Hillary, but she did
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Obviously, she was collapsing, trying to get into a car.
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Look, that's totally—it's fine to talk about that.
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You can bring up, if you think that Donald Trump has a health problem.
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What's really frustrating to me about it is the same thing we talked about when it comes
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to political violence and the same thing we talked about about the DOJ going after their
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enemies, they are asking us to completely forget everything we know about them.
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Everything that they've said over the past decade about how their—it was off-limits
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Like, now we're just supposed to totally forget it.
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What if we act as if none of those days occurred?
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And to try to make some sort of health issue out of President Trump walking just normally
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with his grandson, it's just—it's so pathetic and so disingenuous.
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I guess they think that if they put that in your head initially, that he's dragging his
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leg, and if there's any sort of movement that isn't exactly what you think it's going to
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be, then you'll think, yeah, he's dragging his leg.
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Maybe they think they can subliminally tell you that.
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I'd also say, look, President Trump—I don't know President Trump's health exactly.
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I don't think any of us do, but I will—you know, he's a man in his 70s.
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And he's, I wouldn't say, in perfect physical shape.
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You were very convinced that I have no energy, it seemed, there.
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I think that goes with the Meghan Trainor story, right?
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Meghan Trainor is getting all kinds of flack right now.
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Well, I'm just trying to take care of myself and my body.
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Like, in pop culture, I guess, there is a weird, like, ownership that fans seem to think they have over the people.
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Like, did you watch the John Candy documentary that came out recently?
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It's called I Like Me, I think it's called, which is a line from Planes, Trains, and Automobiles, I believe.
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And they go through the history, you know, John Candy and his rise and, you know, his untimely death.
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Like, everyone thought he was the greatest guy of all time, basically.
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The entire documentary is, we really liked John Candy.
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But often, he would be questioned in interviews, like, so you're really fat.
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And they kept playing the clips, and it was so intrusive.
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And he's like, well, you know, I mean, I'd like to be a little healthier, but, you know.
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He was always very nice to the people that asked him, and he was somehow respectful in
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those moments, which was kind of what they were playing.
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Like, hey, fatso was basically every other interview with the guy.
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But part of it was, and it was the same thing with Farley, Chris Farley, where it's almost
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You're just going to be fat because you're funny or fat.
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And, you know, a lot of times, like, your health, this is another thing that we can't
01:54:21.060
Even though every piece of evidence that we have, at least at a certain level, because
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you could actually have a little meat on your bones, and it won't necessarily affect
01:54:32.140
But when you get to a certain level, it becomes a real problem.
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And there are a lot of benefits as to trimming down a bit.
01:54:41.220
Well, you might notice something about John Candy and Chris Farley.
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Because Candy had, according to the documentary, had a family history of heart issues.
01:55:11.340
And that's likely what, you know, that was all more hereditary.
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Where Farley took a lot of different substances and lived a very hard life.
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I think Candy did as well, but some, I think it was alcohol.
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A little substance abuse there with both of them.
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And you live hard and you're a big guy like that.
01:55:37.320
It doesn't usually, you know, usually have high numbers after the died at date.
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You know, like it's, it gets a little unfortunate there.
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I know the president made a big announcement about some of these drugs that are out there now.
01:55:55.440
There's a whole new generation of them coming out that are helping people lose weight and all of this.
01:56:04.420
I mean, have you looked at the numbers of the, just the United States and obesity levels?
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So, I think if I'm remembering off the top of my head, it was 30% in like the turn of the century obesity and rose all the way to 40.
01:56:40.760
I think we've dropped down a couple of percent.
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I think there's a lot of factors, I guess, at play.
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I mean, I think, you know, some people would think, oh, maybe the Maha thing is part of it, right?
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Like, maybe people are trying to turn that around.
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You know, some of that obviously isn't related to weight, but some of it is.
01:57:04.320
You know, maybe there's, everyone wants to be an Instagram model.
01:57:07.700
Maybe that's what everyone these days is doing.
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But, I think, largely, I would say it's the GLP-1 class of drugs that is responsible for it.
01:57:16.960
And, it seems to be headed in the right direction.
01:57:19.400
We don't know if that's going to be a long-term win for the country, but we do know that, I mean, there was a study that came out the other day that was talking about how the medications are helping heart, you know, bad heart-related outcomes, even when you're not losing weight.
01:57:37.780
One of the theories at the beginning was, okay, you're going to lose a bunch of weight.
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Of course, your health is going to get better and your heart is going to improve.
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They're saying that's happening even for people that don't lose weight on it.
01:57:47.740
They're still having good heart benefits from these drugs.
01:57:55.240
And, you know, look, some people don't like them and some people don't, you know.
01:58:01.180
I mean, I think everything has, there's trade-offs with everything, I suppose.
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You might be worried about longer-term issues, which a lot of people do.
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And, that's a tough one to breach because it's like, well, you know,
01:58:15.940
depending on how long you drag out that timeline, these drugs have been around for a long time in some form or another.
01:58:22.160
It just was used for diabetes patients for a big chunk of that time.
01:58:25.820
So, a lot of those people have been on these drugs for a very long time.
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What if it's 80 years of taking them and then it turns into a bad thing?
01:58:35.300
At that point, though, you get into a place where it's almost hard to use anything that's new.
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Any new discovery, you can always say that about.
01:58:41.900
There's some timeline where at some point in the distant future that it could turn negative.
01:58:46.360
It's hard to know that until you go through multiple generations of people.
01:58:49.700
So, at some point, you're just kind of turning off the entire faucet of innovation, which I don't think that's necessarily a good outcome as well.
01:58:58.380
It's good to balance those concerns, though, I would suppose.
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Megan Trainor says that a lot of people are upset because she did that song all about the bass, you know, which apparently…
01:59:15.340
But, she does have considerable bass, but zero treble.
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And, she said, like, I was 19 when I did that song.
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I'm not all about the bass for the rest of my life, necessarily.
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If you don't know who she is, you've no doubt seen the State Farm commercial, right, with her and Patrick Mahomes.
01:59:45.060
I don't know that I have seen the State Farm commercial.
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She's, she's, they compare her to a different trainer, like an athletic trainer.
02:00:07.920
And, what you're getting is Megan Trainor, who does the song all about the bass.
02:00:12.980
I have seen some in this selection, this run of ads there.
02:00:17.640
I've seen this where they substitute the celebrity name.
02:00:20.180
And then, she obviously doesn't know what she's doing.
02:00:22.600
And, she tries to put some kind of leg brace on Patrick Mahomes' arm.
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But, I do think that is a real thing we do with celebrities.
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And, we just like lock them into that early thing, whatever we know them for.
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And, then, they must be that for the rest of their lives.
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And, apparently, she's not into that because she, she did lose some of the bass.
02:00:57.960
And, is a little bit about the treble now, I think.
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I do think the, this happens with celebrities all the time.
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Like, the example I always think about is Fiona Apple.
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And, I always felt like she got the, you know, because she, an excellent writer.
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But, so, anyway, the important part of the story, I suppose, is that she made a speech
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And, she kind of was like, you know, it was in the, it was in the 90s.
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And, everyone was like, you know, in that era where everyone was sort of like,
02:01:38.460
And, you know, and she said something on the stage of like, you know, this world is BS
02:01:44.480
And, you know, and everyone was like, gosh, every article about her for the next 20 years
02:01:51.540
brings up this speech she made when she won, I don't know, best album or whatever it was.
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And, or best new song, I think it was, that she won on the MTV Music Awards.
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over the years, you know, again, she's an artist, but still.
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A speech you make when you're 19 years old should not be brought up in every single article
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So, what if she made a dumb, cynical point about the world when she was 19 years old?
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You know, same thing that, this is part, in a way, it's like, it's cousins with the woke phenomenon.
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Well, like, every time there's, like, a new, you know, some quarterback gets drafted,
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they're like, did you know when he was 14 he made an insensitive joke?
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He made an insensitive joke about Asians when he was 11.
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I think they're all just like, you know, I'm going to speak for all Asians here, despite
02:03:24.820
not being Asian, and say that they're not all that upset that some random 11-year-old
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They're probably just going to move on with their lives.
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But, like, that's what we're supposed to do, right?
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We're supposed to get all upset and go back in their history and say, well, what did they
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What did they think when they were in seventh grade?
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Were they appropriately balanced and nuanced in their worldview when they were in seventh
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Maybe we should just all, like, relax about it a little bit.
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It's not going to happen, but it would be nice.
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Huge investigation by the Washington Free Beacon has come out, and this is about something
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we talked about at this time yesterday, Jasmine Crockett.
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And, you know, she came out, and she put her team to work.
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They did a deep dive on Jeffrey Epstein and uncovered that Jeffrey Epstein had donated to
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And we now have information from the Washington Free Beacon.
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Democratic Representative Johnny Dupree received donations from Jeffrey Dahmer.
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Act Blue, you know, the Democratic group, received donations from Ted Bundy.
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Richard Ramirez donated to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign.
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Charles Manson to a Democratic Representative, Steve Gaw.
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Look, I was a little, this is Bernie Sanders' 2020 campaign, received a donation from, it was
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But I was surprised Adolf Hitler was making any donations, frankly, in 2020.
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Now, I'm not, I'm less surprised that Peter Hitler donated to many Democrats, including Joe
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I just don't care what it costs or what kind of hassle you have to go through.
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And I could see saying like, look, I'm not related to the guy.
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I want to maintain the history of my family name.
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This is a different, this is the Idaho Hitlers.
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There's a man been in the news quite a bit lately.
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Nick Fuentes donated to Kamala Harris for Senate.
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I was surprised about Craig Hosmer receiving this donation from Muhammad Atta.
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But I was, I was less, I will say, less surprised by that than I was by Barack Obama and Mark
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Warner, the Democratic Senator, receiving donations in the amount of $250 to Warner, $500 to Barack
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Is donating to their campaigns and they didn't turn down those funds.
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