'Arrogance and Insubordination'? - 6⧸15⧸18
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Summary
A report from the Office of the Inspector General finds no evidence of political bias in the Hillary Clinton investigation. Glenn and Jason discuss the report and explain why it is so difficult to prove political bias and why the FBI should have found no bias at all.
Transcript
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The Blaze Radio Network, on demand, Glenn Beck.
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That's the catchphrase you're going to hear everywhere.
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The officer, the office of the inspector general found no evidence that there was any political
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bias that played any role, either with former director Comey or the other FBI agents during
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There are a few highlights of the 568 page report that probably are worth a discussion.
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The report makes it really, really clear that there is no evidence of political bias influencing
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So why did they take 568 pages to make that point?
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If there's nothing going on, why have almost 600 pages that say, oh, yeah, there was nothing
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Well, if you read this, I think what they want us to understand is how difficult it is to
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I think the inspector general wants us to read this report in its entirety and read between
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The first and foremost, the the report straight out eviscerates James Comey.
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Now, one of the most controversial decisions President Trump has made so far has been his decision
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Now, let's imagine just for a second that Trump never did that.
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And Comey was still sitting in his desk at the Hoover building yesterday.
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I can almost guarantee you that after the release of this report yesterday, Comey would have
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Now, here are just a few of the quotes that the IG uses to explain his behavior.
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There is no way that if Trump hadn't have fired him, he could have remained FBI director.
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Now, the report also goes on to analyze the behavior of several FBI agents that were involved
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But two of the five employees that showed questionable behavior, either through text messages or instant
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messaging, if you read the text and the transcripts, it's pretty damning.
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In Strzok's case, his bias could have caused a delay in analyzing the contents of Anthony Weiner's
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And I want to explain this later, but let me just emphasize it could have.
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But as the OIG alludes, political bias is really hard to prove.
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Now, another agent that had been caught saying questionable things and instant messaging was
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actually one of the agents that conducted the Hillary Clinton interview.
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In that interview, the OIG seems to acknowledge that the FBI caught Hillary in a lie.
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She's going to escape a courtroom for the 14,000th time.
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But as is the common theme for the entire Clinton family, it is those around them that suffer
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And all of this for an arrogant and corrupt politician.
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We have Jason Patrillion, who is our head researcher and head writer for the program.
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I mean, some of the others that we've read from the IG have been, what, like 10, 20 pages,
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And the scope of it was like what will really make your eyeballs fall out of your head.
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Because it's supposed to just be centering around the Hillary Clinton investigation.
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But they talk Russia investigation a little bit in this, just briefly, to describe some
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This is the craziness and the, I guess, the incompetence and just some of the weirdness
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that was going on in the FBI was all pretty much brought to the surface in this investigation.
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And that's kind of, I think, why it was so long.
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So, Jason, tell me about the part where they catch Hillary Clinton in a lie.
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Because it's interesting, the conversations they have before she's interviewed.
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So, there was about five, I think, exactly five people that the IG fingered as these people
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either sent biased text messages or using an instant messaging service that was like,
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And this specific one had to do with the instant messaging service.
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But one of the agent who was described as agent one was sending some pretty biased stuff,
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talking about how this is stupid, this is pointless, we've already made up our mind,
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You know, I mean, maybe I could give him a pass if he's working on, you know, organized
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But no, he was the guy that was supposed to interview Hillary Clinton.
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Comey said in his interview, in this report, they said, look, we had, we, yeah, this is
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She, there was no way that we were going to press for an indictment on this.
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The only thing that would make her, the only thing that would make it to where we would
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do anything and indict was if we could prove her, prove that she was lying, that she had
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Now, in this interview, the same guy that showed bias, he asked her a question.
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He said, you know, did you ever know that classification mark, that these were classified?
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Like, and basically the OIG, you know, admitted he had to push back because the prosecutors
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were standing over his shoulder and they would have dinged him if he wouldn't have.
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So he slides an email across the table to her and says, what's this?
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If you have ever looked at a classified document, you know what that C stands for.
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Hillary Clinton has been looking at these things since the early 90s.
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Her response to that was, I had no idea what that was.
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I thought maybe, you know, these paragraphs were just organized in alphabetical order and
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It was the most ridiculous and hilarious response.
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And the FBI agent who had been caught for bias and messaging acknowledged that.
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He was like, I can't remember the direct quote, but he was like, I filed that in my brain
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as, you know, one of the biggest, you know, bullcrap statements or something like that.
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The lie that probably would have meant that they said, okay, we can't now say that she
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So at the end of this, the OIG was like, okay, so again, to reiterate, we can't prove bias,
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but it's incredibly hard to prove bias, more or less.
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Well, that's particularly interesting in the context of the Mueller investigation, which
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The indictments of people like Papadopoulos who, and even Flynn, people who were, you know,
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getting in trouble because, solely because they lied to the FBI.
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And so it's interesting in that that's all she did, right?
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I guess you'd have to have evidence of her knowing.
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But I mean, everybody on earth knows that Hillary Clinton knows what a classified...
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She's the Secretary of Freaking State, let alone in the 90s.
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I mean, when she obviously got, you know, had some, you know, parallel sort of information
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But she was the Secretary of State and a U.S. Senator.
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So that's kind of interesting in context of maybe they're, this is a good point for
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the Trump people who are saying, like, look, they're not being fair in the Mueller investigation.
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If you apply the same standard that they're applied to Papadopoulos, right, you probably
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So here is, you know, what you kind of walk away with.
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The Clintons have been doing this for a very long time, and they know how to pull these
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It's hard to prove bias, but it's also hard not to see it and recognize it.
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But to prove it in a court of law is different.
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This is exactly why the founders said, we have to, even if we think that they're being
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malicious and they're making things up, we have to stand by people's right for free speech
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and a free press, because there are many things that you cannot prove.
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If we didn't have freedom of the press, assuming they did their job, if we didn't have freedom
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of the press, I couldn't get on the radio today and say, this is clearly bias.
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This is clearly corrupt because the government could then hold me responsible for saying that
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when they just had an IG report that said there is no political bias.
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You're saying legally you can't prove it, but you're also sending the message.
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I mean, it's hard to come up with any other thing other than political bias.
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I think at least I think there's multiple OIG investigations that are going to come off of
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They acknowledged one when they talked about they were looking at all the different leakers
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that were involved here, and they were basically said that like there's so many leakers in the
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FBI that we've started another investigation because we it's just it's just a it's just a
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you know, it's it's a huge deal within the bureau.
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And they said that they they identified numerous agents across multiple different areas within
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the bureau that had personal relationships with reporters that they had received gifts.
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Like they received sporting tickets, golf outings, high high priced meals, invitations to
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This one might be a 800 page OIG report that I'm probably going to end up having to read.
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Remember, though, what's interesting is if if you remember what we went through with the
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Secret Service under Obama, it was shown to be completely out of control and corrupt.
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Was there ever really a hard tree shaking of the Secret Service?
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And and and now we're seeing this infection in the FBI, which you can't have that in a
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They're people that are flawed and people that can learn lessons.
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It's not just that you don't want that in the FBI.
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He's the lead investigator in these two in these cases.
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He comes out and the only time they really not the only time there's a lot of accusation
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But the most concrete hint at bias in the entire report is a decision Peter Strzok made about
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I think it was 29th or 26th, something like that.
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New York says, hey, there's a bunch of emails on here might be pertinent to your investigation.
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The IG report says basically they hint at Strzok basically made the decision to prioritize
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OK, so instead of responding in a timely manner and following up on this lead, they push that
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So he's used his bias in the situation to manipulate multiple government investigations.
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Well, what happens is that eventually New York, the state of New York, Hillary Clinton state
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where she was a senator follows up and says, hey, are you guys ever going to do anything
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So instead of the entire investigation coming out a week before and Comey sending the letter
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alerting the nation that there's an ongoing FBI investigation of Hillary Clinton 10 days
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before the election, instead, as Comey hints to in his testimony, I would have probably not
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told Congress if we had started in September because we started in September.
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We would have had enough time to go through the emails and we would have had an idea if
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But if there wasn't, which is what they wound up finding, nothing, then they could have easily
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So in a way, his bias, right, results in Donald Trump becoming president or at the very least
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making his road a much easier to become president.
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And it's a nice lesson to learn when you want to throw your principles out to get some
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This guy may have put, struck, might be responsible for Donald Trump being president.
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I mean, it's not a crazy diagonal curved line to get there.
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And, you know, it's a good lesson because you might as well just do the thing that you
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know is right and let the chips fall where they may instead of trying to manipulate the
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Back in just a second with more on the IG report.
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So let me go to Jason, who read almost all of the I.G.
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Well, he glanced at the last, I mean, you know, about 200 pages.
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So he read more than any human being should have to endure.
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And so, Jason, what's what what do we expect to come from this?
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Are they going to charge anybody with anything?
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Well, I think that I think McCabe was vindicated a little bit on this.
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But apparently McCabe, you know, when he was called out for, you know, his wife receiving
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campaign donations, he went straight to the ethics board or whatever at the FBI and said,
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There's there's no optics issue with that whatsoever.
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There's no you know, there's no problem whatsoever.
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However, the issue is he lied to the FBI director.
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And he lied when he talked about trying to cover up and leak afterwards.
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So maybe a little bit vindicated, but still getting in trouble for that.
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I think that there's going to be a lot more investigation looking looking into struck and
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They are very heavy handed on, you know, coming out and saying, look, what we can't prove what
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Although read between the lines, it's kind of seemed like it did like the laptop.
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But they said they keep on talking about all this pertain to the Russia investigation.
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This is a direct quote that I copied down about how bad it was.
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They said that strucks comments and texts were not only indicative of a biased state of
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mind, but even more seriously implies a willingness to take official action to impact the presidential
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If Trump would have lost, Clinton would have had every reason to bury this information.
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I mean, because this is, you know, we can look at this in an interesting way of people should
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be punished for their past actions and everything else.
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But I mean, in reality, he wound up winning anyway, so it didn't affect the election.
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I mean, this would have sounded like an Alex Jones conspiracy theory.
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I mean, the lead investigator was trying to do this.
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I think this would have been Hillary Clinton's Russia investigation.
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What's great is the Senate probably would rather have him out.
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The Senate would probably be like, oh, just please get this guy out.
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I just read this on his Facebook page last night.
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Here's the latest development in the unfolding saga of the yet to be passed due process guaranteed
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Now, you wouldn't think we would need an act of Congress to guarantee due process.
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The Republicans and Democrats voted yesterday to let this proposal receive a vote easily
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In light of that outcome, I asked unanimous consent for roll call vote.
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One member of the Senate, my colleague Lindsey Graham from South Carolina, objected to that
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reasonable request, explaining that he's not only unwilling to support the measure, which
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is his right, but he is unwilling to even let his Senate colleagues vote on the measure.
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His position is a curious one, given that the overwhelming majority of senators want a vote
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on this proposal, especially considering that Senator Graham himself voted for a nearly identical
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I respectfully but strongly implore Senator Graham to change his mind.
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Let us condemn indefinite detentions of Americans apprehended on American soil.
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So what this means is they can take, this is against everything in the Bill of Rights, everything.
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If you're apprehended here, you can't, where do I even start?
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This is so, this goes back to the basic, this is the liberty part in the Declaration of Independence.
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It means, and the way they were talking about it, is that the king cannot come into your house
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Now that's what happens in communist countries and a lot of other countries.
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They can come and take you in for questioning, and then you're just disappeared.
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And your family is like, what the hell happened to them?
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This is the life liberty part before the pursuit of happiness.
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I don't know what Lindsey Graham is thinking, but he is not thinking about the Bill of Rights.
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If someone is picked up here, an American soil, they must have due process.
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This goes to the government just coming in and taking your money.
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And we're not even scratching the surface on it yet.
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No, it's civil asset forfeiture, which means they can come in, and they're doing it everywhere.
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And I'm telling you, as these cities and states become more and more desperate to meet their bills, they are just going to start taking it because they can.
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They will say, well, we had, you know, for instance, the one guy that I know that ran his own store, he was told by the bank, you know, don't make deposits over $10,000 because then you're going to be put on a list.
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Okay, so he would go to the bank every day and he would make a deposit and it was always under $10,000.
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Well, that marked him for suspicious activity because why is it always just under $10,000?
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Well, because that's what the bank told him to do.
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They came in, they took his money, no due process.
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He had no money left, no bank account, nothing, and no due process.
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We know of another guy that was walking through the airport.
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Yeah, that was another one where he was bringing his money back to his home country because he was going to help some family members.
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He had lived here for 20 years, something like that.
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Whatever it was, he was not confident in the banking system to be able to send his money.
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So he decided to just bring it with him and carry it on the plane.
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They just took it from him because they thought, I don't know, this doesn't seem right.
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And they didn't actually have anything on him at all.
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He's been fixing cars since he was 16 years old.
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Look at the hoops that they are jumping through for the politicians in Washington, D.C.
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Look at the hoops that they are jumping through to prove that Hillary Clinton did no wrong.
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They give her every opportunity and every opportunity to just clearly lie.
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You're telling me you didn't know that that C stood for classified?
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But is it justice that the ruling class has a separate standard that all of a sudden they get the benefit of the doubt?
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You're giving a guy a ride home because his car is in your shop and you are paid or you have to pay the penalty that you lose your car?
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However, due process, if we do not have due process, we are done as a country.
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And Lindsey Graham doesn't want a straight up or down vote to protect due process.
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You need to call your senator and you need to tell them you must vote for due process.
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You need to call and write or whatever Facebook post Lindsey Graham.
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Americans don't stand in the way of protecting due process.
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What Mike Lee is trying to do is to reassemble the Bill of Rights.
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To put new safeguards around it because it's just being dismantled piece by piece.
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You can vote against it because you don't believe in it.
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All right, so Stu would like to tell us who gay people are.
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Which I think is an interesting choice, a career choice, really.
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We actually have Brad Palumbo coming up, who happens to be gay, in hour three.
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And he wants to talk about the Masterpiece Cake Shop ruling, and whether that's okay.
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I think it's, it is interesting to hear, I think, the perspective.
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Because I think what happens in the media is, I've had people tell me before,
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there are absolutely no gay people who agree with you on gay rights issues.
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And you think that's kind of how the media presents it, right?
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Listen to the profile, they just did a poll of LGBTQ, who are LGBTQ?
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This one was fascinating to me, completely separate from politics.
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Give me a breakdown of, percentage-wise, your guess on LGB.
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What's the breakdown, percentage-wise, of those three groups?
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What's the breakdown between the three groups, L, G, and B, lesbian, gay, bisexual?
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You mean in real life or in this, in this club?
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Out of LGB people, out of those people, lesbian, gay, and bisexual.
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This is not talking about the people who are, um, activist in that.
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You're talking about just percentage of all Americans who are-
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I thought you meant about, uh, you know, the activist involved.
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Uh, 39% say they either don't want to get married or are unsure if they ever want to
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So we hear this whole thing about, you know, how important of a right that was.
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There's a lot of people who have no interest in it.
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That people are saying, I know, I know plenty of gay people who say, why would I want to
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I mean, it doesn't seem to do you guys any good.
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Because you hear about like, uh, adoption and everything.
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Um, 62% either don't want children or are not sure that they ever want to have children.
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And the biggest group is, I don't want children 44%.
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I thought this was somewhat self-evident, but bisexual people are having more sex than
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You've doubled the chances of who you can have sex with.
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Surprisingly, it's 29% of bisexual people having sex once or twice a week, 15% several
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times a week, a lot higher than gay and bisexual.
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You're doubling the amount of available people.
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Uh, but yeah, it's kind of an interesting, by the way, uh, 36% either moderate or conservative.
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So several months ago, at the Miss Universe competition, two women took a selfie and then
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As a result of that selfie, both women have faced death threats.
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Now, one of the women, along with her entire family, had to flee her home country.
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The occasion was the 2017 Miss Universe competition, which I think is a little arrogant of all of
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Miss Iraq is no longer welcome in her own country.
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The government threatened to strip her of her crown.
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Of course, she was also, you know, badgered for wearing a bikini during a competition.
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And if you didn't like bikinis, why does anybody in Iraq know about the Miss Universe competition?
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I'm just saying it seems like you might be watching it.
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Anyway, in an interview, Miss Iraq, Sarah Aydin said, when I posted the picture, I didn't think
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I woke up to calls from my family and the Miss Iraq organization going insane, and the
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The director of the Miss Iraq organization called me and said that they were getting heat
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He said, I have to take down the picture or they will strip me of my title.
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Well, yesterday, Miss Iraq, Sarah Aydin, posted another selfie.
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She posed in another selfie with Miss Israel during a visit to Jerusalem.
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In an interview, she said, I don't think that Iraq and Israel are enemies.
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I think maybe the governments are enemies with each other.
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And there's a lot of Iraqi people, though, that don't have a problem with Israelis.
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Iraq, home to roughly 15,000 Palestinians, refused to acknowledge Israel as a legitimate
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country, as it is, technically, they are at war with Israel.
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The adage says that the picture is worth a thousand words.
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But what do we do when those thousand words are all hateful and deadly?
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How can we find the goodness in such bad situations?
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Mr. Bill O'Reilly, the author of the upcoming book, Killing the SS, The Hunt for the Worst War
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Yeah, it's not like I really cared, but I thought I would ask because it sounds polite.
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I mean, but just the fact that you made the effort.
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Now, Bill, I wanted to talk to you about a couple of things.
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There were a couple of headlines that we spotlighted on Bill O'Reilly.com.
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The first one is that the FBI and the Justice Department held back that key memo, the headline
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of the whole story, where Peter Strzok, the lead FBI agent on the Hillary Clinton email
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thing, and in the beginning on the Trump-Russian collusion thing, sent to his mistress, an FBI
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lawyer named Lisa Page, that we, he used that word we, would prevent Donald Trump from becoming
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president after Ms. Page, semi-hysterical, said, oh, he's not going to get elected, is
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I didn't expect a smoking gun, but there it is.
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But that memo should have been out a long time ago because congressional investigators
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asked for the correspondence between Page and Strzok.
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Because the FBI and the Justice Department knew what a damning thing that would be.
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But if you listen to the media last night, the Trump media, that was buried.
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But that is the big headline of the whole thing.
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Did you get the impression that the inspector general was also saying, of course there was
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But look, I'm going to spend 600 pages on something that if there was nothing there, I would have
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But you need to know all of the details and you judge for yourself.
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I thought the report was sloppy and I thought the report was misleading.
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I'd like to talk to Horowitz and interview him about it.
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And there are two things I didn't like about the report.
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Number one, he was very generous to James Comey.
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Extremely generous by saying, well, we didn't find any bias in James Comey's activities.
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But we found that he did all of these other things wrong.
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He went outside of Justice Department guidelines.
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So then the logical question that a six-year-old would ask would be, why did James Comey do
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But don't you think that's what he was trying to say when he says it?
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Well, because because by wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, but he
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Yeah, it's very difficult, if not impossible to prove political bias.
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And I think that they were just, there's all smoke there.
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He said that we couldn't find any political bias in James Comey's behavior.
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And that was what the hate Trump media latched onto.
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That was the first thing that CNN reported and the New York Times and the Washington Post,
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So, look, there's a discipline that should be applied to these kinds of extremely important
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And I did not see that discipline in Michael Horowitz's end product.
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Because this is extremely important to every American citizen.
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Most of us, you know, I mean, you go out today to the mall and you go, hey, did you read
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These people are going to look at you like, ah, well, ah, ooh.
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And it's becoming even more, more deranged in this country where people just don't pay
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So, why is it important to every American citizen?
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Because you have the premier and most powerful law enforcement organization rife with corruption.
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When you have your lead investigator on Hillary Clinton email and Russian collusion, a guy
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who was hired by special prosecutor Mueller to come on over, a guy who co-authored James
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Comey's public statement, first public statement exonerating Hillary Clinton.
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When you have that man showing the malice that he showed toward Donald Trump, that is corruption
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So, what was the attorney general's motivation for not just going after them, other than
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I don't know if, you know, Sessions even knows that this is out yet, by the way.
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I don't know if he's down in Muscle Beach, down in the Redneck Riviera.
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I mean, you should, Gomer Pyle could do a better job.
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I don't know, other than the fact that it is becoming clear that the Justice Department
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is just like every other government department, full of bureaucrats who want to cover their
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It was disturbing to me to see in the report that there is, it seems to be a little rampant
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of the FBI agents themselves taking all kinds of favors from members of the press.
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Every, you know, they expose that the FBI rank and file now.
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The agents involved in investigations have all these cozy relationships and are going
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to ballgames and getting dinners and going out drinking with the press.
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And the press, of course, is getting these leaks.
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And that's why we have anarchy in Washington, D.C.
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It's almost every federal agency leaking to the press, selective leaks that the press doesn't
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And so this is another part of the corruption that has just enveloped Washington, D.C.
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Do you think, Bill, as we're on the road to, I think, a banana republic, if you can't trust
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your trust, your justice system, then you really don't have anything.
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If you ask anybody who's been into civil court and you ask anybody who's gotten a beef,
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who's been sued by, you know, somebody maliciously, you ask anybody.
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You have to rack up hundreds of thousands of dollars to just be represented.
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And that's what we did last night on the No Spin News.
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He brought in a former U.S. attorney, Brett Tallman, who's probably the smartest guy in
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You can charge this guy, Strzok, and perhaps Lisa Page, with a crime.
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So Horowitz refers five FBI agents to disciplinary action.
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If you look at what Strzok did throughout the whole investigation, again, this is the
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top guy at the FBI investigating Hillary and Trump collusion, okay?
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If you look at what he did behind the scenes and how he maneuvered things that, well, we're
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They held back the Hillary Clinton thing for almost a month when the stuff was discovered
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So, Bill, here at the Mercury Studios, we're doing this museum, and it's all on the Bill
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of Rights, and we're showing the pieces from history that kind of explain the Bill of Rights
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But it starts with the Declaration of Independence.
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What's really run through my mind in the last few weeks is, first of all, they're not
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They're taught for generations, then they become self-evident.
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But as soon as they start to be decayed, you're taught something different, that somebody else
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Do we, I mean, I keep thinking of the line from, I think it was John Adams that said,
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you know, the system that we have is built for a religious and moral people.
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Without that, this system is wholly inadequate.
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We're no longer people who say, no, no, no, you know, that's unethical.
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I'm going to, we're now a people who's like, I don't care.
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Oh, boy, Beck, that's, I mean, that's philosophical.
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I'm going to give you, I tell you what, I'm going to take a pause.
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I'll give you a chance just to think about that.
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Mr. Bill O'Reilly, we are a nation that doesn't seem to care about the truth anymore.
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You know, more and more millennials now believe that they are going to retire at 55 and they
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I think that there is a strain of common sense among Americans over 35.
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I think that that gap now, it used to be because during World War II, I mean, you had 18 year
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olds, 19 year olds fighting for their lives in defense of their country and they had to grow up real fast.
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They had to grow up, you know, when you were 16, you were a man or a woman.
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Now it's these people are sloppy and they're, you know, lazy.
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I'm generalizing and certainly some very, very good millennials.
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The parents are on the machines 24-7 themselves.
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Religion has declined drastically in the country.
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It takes them a while to, you know, figure it out.
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But it is troubling that the truth really doesn't matter because it's your truth.
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And you see this now in all kinds of public pronouncements.
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No, there's the truth and then there's deception.
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You can basically present an argument that can be overwhelming in the sense that this did happen.
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And if you don't want to accept it, that's not your truth.
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So I don't want to have anything to do with you.
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But that's being embraced as a legitimate point of view.
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And to try to get a philosophical view that I just imparted.
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Yeah, you just like to take the top off of Plato and smell it.
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I want to go to the summit when we have a little more time after the break.
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Looks like the trade war with China is getting really serious.
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Is this going to get things as if the deal is made, which I think it will be?
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I think the Chinese opened it up with will buy 90 billion dollars more American goods a year.
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And, you know, when you call for Chinese takeout now, it's twice as much as it was.
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Well, but real tariffs have been put on, for example, on washing machines, Bill.
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And so now they're saying their highest prices they've ever been.
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So now we have real Americans, the folks, paying 17 percent more for washing machines.
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There's tariffs on all the washing machines coming in now because the Obama administration tried to tariff
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And the folks are getting hit with 17 percent more cost.
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And it's just funneling into a niche industry here where it's costing hundreds of thousands
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And it started, to Trump's credit, it started with Obama.
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Isn't it just a bad idea to tax people who should be able to keep their own money?
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Listen, I don't know anything about the washing machines, but I do believe what you say, Stu.
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So I'm basically taking my wash out to the brook and pounding it with rocks this afternoon.
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When we come back, I'm sure you have a lot to say about Donald Trump and Kim Jong-un.
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And I'd like to hear your digest, if you will, of that.
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But I also want to make sure that we hit a couple of things.
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What the president said about Kim Jong-un and how he rules his people.
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And, quote, I'd like our people to do that as well.
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Well, every week we spend an hour with Mr. Bill O'Reilly, so you don't have to.
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And just get his opinions on the goings-on around the world.
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And it's a big weekend this weekend with the museum going on right now.
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You can go to mercuryone.org slash museum2018 to get your tickets.
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You can put them in the plastic sheets, but they're right in your hands.
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And you can read the documents from the founders.
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Plus, all sorts of really dark stuff from the Soviets and from the Chinese regime and all sorts of different eras of history, as well as the Nazis.
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If only we had an expert on, let's say, the SS, who maybe wrote an entire book, Killing the SS, that's coming out soon.
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And we called yesterday, and we're like, the key hasn't arrived.
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We have to call a locksmith to open up the case with the Gettysburg Address in it.
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I broke the lock to get the Gettysburg Address.
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Okay, you're in a national treasure with Nicolas Cage.
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So anyway, we're going to open that live, hopefully, at 12 o'clock Eastern time today on Facebook.
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It would really suck if we opened it up and there's nothing there.
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Anyway, Bill O'Reilly, welcome back to the program.
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Let's talk a little bit about what happened with Kim Jong-un.
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Yeah, I wrote a column on it, of course, on BillO'Reilly.com.
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And it basically was a very big victory for Donald Trump because he was able to show the world that, look, we'd like to have peace.
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And so I'm going to do whatever I can to make that happen.
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And that includes actually complimenting this jerk.
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So I think most non-Trump-hating people understand that was a positive, not just for the United States, but for the world.
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So, you know, it's interesting to see the reaction to Trump, but he gets a big win out of that.
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I've met him a couple of times, and I don't, you know, it's not like, I think it's safe to say it's not like we're friends.
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So, do you believe, because I do, do you believe he is, he's self-aware enough to know I recognize this guy.
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I see, you know, that he is, I see his want for fame and power, and I know that if I carry a big stick, but then I say, come on into the circle, he's going to want to be into that circle.
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Is he self-aware enough to know that that's kind of his MO, and it will work on somebody like Kim Jong-un?
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Well, he's got a pattern of negotiation that he uses, flattery, threats, not sophisticated, but he's worked well for him.
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So, he uses that, and, you know, in this case, he threatened the little rocket man, diminished him, and then, you know, by back channels, China, said, look, you know, you want things to get better, we can do that too, and I'll prop them up.
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So, the little rocket man said, you know what, I'm going to try this, and we'll see how it works out.
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Yes, Trump is self-aware in the sense that he has a way to operate that's worked for him in the past, and he continues to do it now.
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Now, that, if you take that into consideration, then your next question might be, and I don't want to tell you guys what to ask me, but then why would you go out this morning and say that Americans should sit up at attention when the president speaks, just like they do in North Korea?
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Why would you go out this morning, then, and say the Americans should just stand up at attention like King John Moon?
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Because there's a lack of discipline on the part of Donald Trump that, you know, we talked about discipline on Michael Horowitz in the Inspector General's report, and again, that's very troubling to me, because, you know, that's his job, and the report was so imprecise about why James Comey did what he did.
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But Donald Trump doesn't, he basically is a guy who acts on impulse, and you're the president now.
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He's the exact opposite of Barack Obama, exactly.
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But Trump says, oh, there's Steve Doocy out on the front lawn of the White House, I'm going to go out and kick some butt rhetorically, which he did.
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And, you know, Trump doesn't even know what he's saying half the time.
01:03:22.720
You know, when I see all this, and then you look at the reaction, MSNBC, oh, you know, I'm going, don't you realize that he just says stuff?
01:03:36.260
So that was the big discussion, and I couldn't take it from David Gregory this week on CNN with Mr. David Gregory.
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Look, I speak French, so I am smarter than you.
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He just says things, but there is a responsibility, and we're not the enemy of the people.
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I also had a problem with Wolf Blitzer saying we're a bigger enemy than Russia because they were mocking anyone who said Russia was an enemy before this president.
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However, I also do see that it's not good to have somebody who's just saying things and not meaning it.
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The weakest part of the Trump administration is the president himself saying stupid stuff.
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If he would discipline his message, he would be 15 points up in the job approval rating and almost have a lockdown on re-election.
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But he is incapable of doing it, which makes him very amusing.
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One of the reasons that I got to know Donald Trump was because he and I would go to sporting events in New York City, go to the Yankees, the Mets, the Knicks, whatever.
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Sitting next to him for two hours in this stream of conscious monologue was about the most entertaining thing that I could possibly imagine.
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I mean, I went and I learned an amazing amount about what his business was, how he conducted it, and what he thought about life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
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He always has been, since he's been one year old and learned how to speak the language.
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Nobody's saying, Donald, you can't really say that.
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And, you know, the method to his madness is that he likes to drive people crazy.
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And it helps to understand that so that the American people go, you know, so what?
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You know, when I hear this stuff about Trump saying this crazy stuff, I go, so what?
01:06:13.360
It doesn't bother me if he wants people to sit up like they do in North Korea because he'll forget about it in an hour.
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It's about trying to get the country in a better place.
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And on some things, he has improved the country dramatically.
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Can we talk about some serious business, Bill, which is when do we get Killing the SS?
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Well, because the galleys, as you know, because Beck writes a book every year and the galleys will be out, I think, in 10 days.
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Well, when you're talking about a book and you're like, and I designed the whole thing.
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You're going to really like this book because it's not the typical World War II book in the sense that, well, I knew that.
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And the headline is that the Israeli government opened up stuff to us about the pursuit of SS war criminals like Eichmann and Mengele that they had never made public, that this has been secret stuff, classified stuff.
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And, therefore, we were able to walk you through how they got away after World War II.
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We believe Martin Bormann, second in command to Adolf Hitler, did get away where the Allied propaganda and Russian propaganda was he was shot in Berlin.
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And we present an unbelievably compelling case.
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Do you make a case of where he might have gone?
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We trace him to Bariloche, Argentina, and where do you see the evidence that we have?
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It is so unbelievable, some of the stuff that we found out, that people who are interested in the most evil acts ever perpetrated on this earth, and now kids don't know anything about it.
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I'm hoping that this book galvanizes the country and the world.
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It's going to do very well overseas, and that people start the conversation again about evil.
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This is about evil, okay, and how evil is accepted in many quarters.
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There are a lot of people that help these SS guys get away, and we name those people, and some of them will shock you.
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Bill O'Reilly, always good to talk to you, sir.
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I want your audience to just get the unfettered truth.
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You know, I'm out on eastern Long Island, the most beautiful place in the summer, and I'm going to shake down the kids for presents.
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So last night we had, oh, I don't even know, about 400 people here last night.
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And, you know, some VIPs that came in to see the museum before we opened it up to the public.
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People were a little surprised on how dark it is at the beginning because we're showing you what life is not only like living under a tyrant in the past, but also what it's like currently living for a tyrant.
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There is a pass-through if you don't want to bring your kids to that portion of it.
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You know, it just depends on how sensitive they are.
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There's some pretty disturbing things in that opening few minutes of the museum.
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One of the things that the VIPs didn't get to see last night, they saw a trunk that is all locked up that has been flown in from Illinois.
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But we're opening up today, and that'll be 11 o'clock Central, 12 o'clock Eastern.
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And we'll do it on Facebook Live on both the Blaze and Glenn Beck.
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I mean, I can't imagine what it's going to be like to open up a trunk and reach in and pull the Gettysburg Address out.
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You know, the handwritten Abraham Lincoln Gettysburg Address.
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I mean, we've done these museums before, but nothing like this.
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I mean, this is three or four times as much as that we've ever had before.
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And, you know, there's always been great items.
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But, I mean, this is really – there's so much to explore, too.
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It's not – what I kind of like about it is you kind of have the idea of it's not just a few things you can kind of walk up to and read about.
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Like, you can go through, like, these things and find your own – find your own history, which is really cool.
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This is the activation of the climate emergency system.
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The Berkeley City Council has declared this climate emergency.
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Now, maybe you've been living under a rock and you didn't already know that a state of climate emergency already exists.
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But if you don't know something about it, like, now, like, I don't – where have you been?
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According to the foremost authority on climate doom, the Berkeley City Council.
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Now, Stu, I'm a doctor, so I don't – I may get into this and talk above people's heads because I'm a – you know, I'm a doctor.
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But can you give me the qualifications of the Berkeley City Council on their climate?
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And just – they stated a holiday in Express last night.
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Okay, so according to the Berkeley City Council and the experts that you just heard Stu outline, they have declared emergency as dire as World War II.
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City Council member Shara DeVilla, she warns that global warming is driving us toward the sixth mass extinction of the species, which could devastate much of life on Earth for the next 10 million years.
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Now, I feel uncomfortable making predictions that are a year out, but I'm not one of the experts in the Berkeley City Council talking about the end of all civilization and serious ramifications for the next 10 million years, but they're not afraid to say it.
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City Council resolution says, during World War II, I'm quoting, the Bay Area came together across race, age, class, gender, and other differences in an extraordinary regional mobilization, building and repairing Liberty ships, converting car assembly plants into tank manufacturing facilities.
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Now, Stu, again, I am not an expert, but would you say that during World War II, the people in the Pacific coast, you know, in the Bay Area, that they did come together across all race lines?
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Because I thought that we rounded up all of the Japanese in the Bay Area.
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Well, yes, they were, the harmony existed in a camp, yes, but there was harmony.
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The Berkeley City Council says, the only way to avert World War II level disaster is if Americans mobilize in the same way to confront climate change as we did in 1942 to confront Nazism.
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Because climate change and Nazism are definitely the same.
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I don't think I've, no, please, this is a climate emergency.
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Okay, hurry up, because we're on the emergency climate system.
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For example, New York Times just reported that they believe now that the ice melting around Antarctica has now led to three-tenths of one inch of sea level rise.
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So, I mean, if you think of three-tenths of one inch or the Holocaust, which one would you, I mean, they're basically the same.
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You could certainly see how it's pretty much, how you can almost not tell the difference.
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They could have gone together really well, because water would have put out the fires of the ovens.
01:18:52.440
Well, yeah, and it was probably not enough water at three-tenths of an inch.
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The Berkeley City Council says the only way to avoid is to mobilize.
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The resolution calls our current climate change emergency, and I'm quoting, it could not be on the emergency broadcast system, the emergency climate broadcast system, and say this if it weren't true.
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The Berkeley City Council has declared this the greatest crisis in history.
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I mean, this is right out of the Galactic Empire Handbook.
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They say you have to mobilize workers to build and install renewable energy infrastructure.
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Berkeley says it wants to become a carbon sink by 2030.
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Well, a sink is in the same room as the crapper, but I have a feeling you'll be probably better off predicting that you're going to be the crapper.
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For the initiated, what a carbon sink means is they want the city's greenhouse gas emissions to be negative, which is kind of hard to do.
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To have a negative carbon footprint, you know, you have to be Amish without any farms.
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Yeah, there is, because you can't truck anything in.
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You can't use any pesticides or anything else, but you also can't have any animals to help you plow fields or anything else.
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And here's the good news is they want it done in the next 12 years.
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So, but by the way, that's not their only strategy.
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Their resolution also mentions that Earth has too many people screwing up the atmosphere.
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So we must, quote, humanely stabilize the population.
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That's weird because we have the museum going on.
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And I've read a lot about stabilizing the population because there were too many insects that were infesting the Soviet Union.
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Or too many, you know, too many undesirables infesting Europe.
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Yeah, I'm sure this time it's going to be completely humane.
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He is a, to quote Phil Hendry, a gay man and a gay journalist.
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And he's written his article as a student from the University of Massachusetts, Amherst,
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about the ruling of the Supreme Court on, does a baker have to make a wedding cake for a gay couple?
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So we really enjoyed your article and wanted to give you some additional exposure here.
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Tell us, tell us your thoughts on the Supreme Court's ruling.
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So I really felt very strongly about this issue coming towards the Masterpiece case from the perspective of a gay libertarian.
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I felt really strongly that if we're going to live in a free society, there have to be things both in life and in business that we can object to and say that violates our conscience.
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So I don't agree with the Christian baker, but I think that he has to have that right to say, I'm not going to provide that service because it violates my conscience, because I want that right for myself.
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You know, I wouldn't want to bake a cake that had homophobic verses on it.
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This is from Campus Reform, where they're talking to students about bakers having to make a gay wedding cake.
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And I would love to get your response, seeing that you are also a millennial.
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I think you should have to bake the cake because it's his job.
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The fact that our Supreme Court found that this was an okay thing, I find appalling.
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And if his job is to bake a cake for a wedding, even if he doesn't agree with it, he should still have to bake a cake for that wedding.
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Do you think that he should be forced to bake a cake for a gay wedding?
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People have a right to eat the cake that they want to eat.
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If there were an African-American baker and someone came in and asked them to make a cake for a KKK rally, should they be forced to do it?
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But, like, I guess that kind of just, like, contradicts what I just said.
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As for his religion, I think that his ability to exercise his freedom in religion ends when that encroaches on another person's ability to be who they are.
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Can you give us hope in the millennial generation?
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So I'll say that not all of us are that constitutionally illiterate.
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You know, there's no constitutional right to eat cake for that cake.
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Well, I would support an amendment on that direction.
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But what I'll say is, listen, obviously these guys don't understand.
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I know it's a gotcha video, so they're picking the worst.
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But these people, these young people that were questioned, don't understand that you can't have the best of both worlds.
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If you don't want a Jewish tattoo artist to have to make a Nazi symbol on someone, if you don't want a gay baker to have to make a cake with anti-gay Bible verses, then the people you don't like have to have those rights, too.
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Either everyone has the right to ideological exception or no one does.
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So, Brad, I really, truly believe that the move to socialism, collectivism and away from libertarian and and American Bill of Rights is only because they have not heard these ideas.
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It was clear that none of these people had been asked that question or even thought that way.
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So there is no pushback mentally in their life.
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Is it is that the case or do they or is there a real movement because people really believe it and they know what they're talking about?
01:26:10.160
Well, I would agree with you that many of these young people probably have not been exposed to the libertarian conservative argument.
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And I think there's two two problems that are causing that.
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One would be the hyper biased nature of our higher education system.
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You know, many of them are probably college students.
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But liberal professors outnumber conservative professors by some estimates five to one, by some estimates twelve to one.
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Well, they're only hearing one side of the story.
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They create an echo chamber where they only see less friendly content.
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So that's one of the things that I try to do as a writer and an activist is to bring conservative ideas to young people.
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You know, we were we have a museum going on here and it's all about the Bill of Rights.
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And David Barton was talking about the freedom of religion, and he said it's actually way too narrow to define it that way.
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He said they chose the word religion, he said, but that's not the way they referred to it.
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And he said, I wish they would have used the the real word.
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And that is that is at the crux of the issue here.
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It's it's being made about evil religion, but it's actually about freedom of conscience that all of us have to have that right.
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Because the the the question is, how do we stop bigots from using their religion as excuses to not serve people?
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Well, it doesn't matter if they're a bigot or not, does it?
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I would say that, obviously, it matters whether they're a bigot or not.
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You know, that's not good to be a bigot, but correct law and their constitutional rights.
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You know, you have to have rights for the people you disagree with if you want them for yourself.
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So I would agree that it is absolutely a question of freedom of conscience.
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But it's also a question of freedom of speech, because in this case, what's really at issue is expressive conduct.
01:28:10.960
And what the court really had to answer was, can a gay couple force a Christian baker to violate his conscience and create something that's expressive and conveys a message he disagrees with?
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And I think the answer has to be no, because I wouldn't want to have the reverse happen to me.
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Wouldn't you say, though, if they do, that that lessens your ability to live your life free and, you know, without having anybody discriminate against you?
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I would I would not say I would not say that directly, you know, because there is no shortage of people willing to bake gay cakes.
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They could have gone anywhere. And I actually think that this decision is, in a way, a win for gay rights, right, because it protected freedom of conscience narrowly.
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But it did. And, you know, gay people more than anyone should understand how important it is to have the right to some ideas you disagree with.
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Yes. Because we went through years of discrimination, years where we couldn't get married, years where we would have our children taken away just for being gay.
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So we should appreciate these constitutional rights more than anyone. We shouldn't be assaulting them.
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First of all, I would just like to propose when we're talking about gay cakes, we use the term gake.
01:29:26.240
You write in your story, Brad, if anything, this decision didn't go far enough.
01:29:29.720
The court ruled 7-2 in the favor of the baker, but it was a narrow ruling in scope.
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It didn't hand down any broad declarations protecting free speech or individual conscience rights.
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A broader pro-liberty decision would have done more to advance individual freedom.
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Surely, you write, the gay community can appreciate the necessity of individual freedom and importance of protecting the First Amendment and right to dissent from ideas you agree with.
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You use the word surely. How sure are you on that one?
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Well, you know, I think that's how I think they should feel.
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Well, obviously, that's not how the majority of LGBT people probably feel, but I will say that there are much more than you think.
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You know, I write and I tweet about conservative LGBT perspectives all the time, and there are a lot of people out there that feel the same way that I do, coming from that perspective.
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It only talked about the specifics of this case.
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I really would like to see the court, and they probably will have to in the future, address this issue in a broader sense and hand down a broad decision that protects conscious rights for Christian bakers, for bigoted people, and for everyone.
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The masterpiece cake shop ruling is actually a win for LGBT rights.
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Brad, can I just get your buy-in and endorsement of the term gake?
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Yeah, absolutely. You know, that sounds delicious.
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Brad, thanks a lot, and thanks for a great story, and thank you for standing up for liberty and doing your homework to know what you actually believe.
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Yeah, by the way, that poll we talked about earlier, 36% of LGBTQ...
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I think it was only LGBTQ in this particular poll.
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But 36% identified themselves as moderate or conservative.
01:31:22.300
It's not a block. I mean, unless Kathy Griffin has something to do with it, then...
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Yeah, we got to talk about that when we come back.
01:31:31.560
He was in yesterday. Did you get a chance to see Tika?
01:31:36.680
We're so wrapped up in so many other things, but I just...
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And I asked him to be on the show next week, because he...
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And he has examples from history on why you should feel really good about it right now.
01:32:03.760
And then he started seeing the writing on the wall and in high tech and cryptocurrency.
01:32:11.960
He came in as a consultant for us to try to teach us exactly what Bitcoin is and how it works and everything else as we were trying to explain it to you.
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About halfway through the meeting, I said, could you just make this available to our audience?
01:32:31.180
If you want to understand the ins and the outs of cryptocurrency, call now.
01:32:42.940
The Intellectual Dark Web is apparently nothing more than a guise for Nazis.
01:33:06.260
Organizers of a panel celebrating self-identified members of the Intellectual Dark Web, a very serious circle,
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mostly consisting of men who really don't want you to call them alt-right, have persuaded a few real-life intellectuals into joining them on stage for a day of reflection at the Lincoln Center.
01:33:23.800
New Yorker contributor and author, Marsha Gessen, tells The Gothamist that she was shocked to learn late last night that an event she'd agreed to speak at is actually an alt-right crap show.
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Hosted by racism-debunking podcaster Dave Rubin.
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Crap, I'm not a Republican, but I'm not a progressive either.
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I think I believe in the Constitution and the rights that that guarantees.
01:34:28.740
Welcome to Mr. Pat Gray from the Pat Gray Radio Roundup and his orchestra, which begins in 25 minutes.
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But it's worth it because it's a powerful, powerful name of a show.
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Even the begins in 25 minutes is part of the show title.
01:34:51.440
Which is weird because it only works like right now.
01:34:55.440
But that's when we expect people to use the letterhead is right now.
01:35:09.920
I mean, but I forget that you do your own homework and you're busy on your show because I have.
01:35:19.520
He was standing there, but not with you at the time.
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And Pat came up to me and he said, this Thomas Jefferson thing changes everything.
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And we've been talking about it on the air this week, but you must have missed it.
01:35:37.520
Stu and I were looking at it, what, 10 days ago?
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It's the exact opposite of everything taught about the person.
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Disproved in his own handwriting in the Declaration of Independence first draft.
01:35:59.540
Now, there's going to be a lot of pushback because he was a slave owner.
01:36:02.060
But what we're talking about is that he was a real strong abolitionist.
01:36:10.920
If he's such an abolitionist, how do you own slaves?
01:36:13.960
Well, first of all, you couldn't free your slaves in Virginia.
01:36:20.520
Even upon your death in Thomas Jefferson's time in 1826, you couldn't free your slaves
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In fact, before that, it didn't matter if you were in debt or not.
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That's why George Washington freed his slaves on death.
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Because in Virginia, that's the only way you could free people.
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They're like, yeah, he did it only when he died.
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Yes, because they tried to change the law and tried to change the law.
01:36:50.420
And in the Declaration of Independence first draft, it says the king thwarted us every
01:36:57.900
So they got it on death that you could free your slaves.
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But then after that happened with George Washington, I think they changed it.
01:37:09.520
So and then especially if you were in debt, if you were in debt before the law had been
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changed, if you were in debt and you died, you couldn't free your slave because that
01:37:21.680
I don't think it's unfair to read that document and say that the main reason he wanted to
01:37:39.380
It's not just, you know, here's an interesting argument about the Constitution we're about
01:37:57.380
Did you see of the the the Eastland, the SS Eastland thing from Woodrow Wilson about the
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I mean, there's stuff that you didn't you've never known.
01:38:09.760
And it completely turns everything upside down.
01:38:13.220
It you you look at the Declaration of Independence and people always say, how can that man how
01:38:19.960
could he possibly write all men are created equal and then not see slaves even as men?
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And we've always had to dance around and go, well, well, but it was a different time.
01:38:34.200
Well, why didn't he put it in the Constitution?
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And because John Hancock had said beforehand, you know, almost quoting Ben Franklin, guys,
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we all better hang together or we're certainly going to hang separately.
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They knew if they broke broke up the 13 colonies, if they weren't in lockstep, the king would
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start to meddle with one of the colonies or two.
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And he would whoever dissented, whoever dissented.
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And he would throw the whole thing out of line and it would be over and they'd all be dead.
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So Thomas Jefferson goes and they say, you have to draft the Declaration of Independence.
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You know what it is we're going to cover and, you know, life, liberty and the pursuit of
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They go through the usurpations, all the things the king had done, the reason why they have
01:39:43.920
And he's arresting people and they just disappear and we don't know where they are.
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If you ever heard the line, because I know God is just, I tremble for my country.
01:39:59.760
That was Thomas Jefferson's response when this failed.
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When this failed, he started to write nasty things about not just the Carolinas and Georgia,
01:40:15.080
but also he started writing nasty things about the cowardice of others.
01:40:24.820
So the guy who was one of the most passionate abolitionists at the writing of the Declaration
01:40:33.500
of Independence, he's known as the fly in the oeuvrement.
01:40:42.140
I mean, so often people consider him just a bad guy.
01:40:47.080
And at best, they consider him a real complicated guy because he was...
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He was stuck in a situation he couldn't get out of, but he hated the situation.
01:41:05.760
I know how he fought in Virginia, but I've never been able to reconcile the Declaration
01:41:12.040
I've never been able to say all men are created equal.
01:41:16.140
And I've never been comfortable with, well, they didn't consider them men.
01:41:19.960
And I thought, well, you know, I got to give...
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That's why one of the words in this visceral writing of Thomas Jefferson, he capitalizes
01:41:50.960
He says the so-called Christian king goes over to another country, takes captives, take
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And they have never done anything wrong against him.
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He ships them to another hemisphere if they make it through the grueling and horror of the
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And then he takes these capital letters, men, and puts them for sale on the open market.
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Basically, his main objection to the king is that he wants to continue a market of men
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being bought and sold and claims to be a Christian.
01:42:43.260
You wonder how the general public doesn't know that.
01:42:54.320
And certainly intensely since the 2000s and ever since we've been together in 2009 until today.
01:43:02.180
And then just this week, we're hearing this information.
01:43:10.560
I've had that copy of the Declaration of Independence.
01:43:17.740
I've had that for I don't even know how long, how many years I've had that.
01:43:22.200
And I never noticed those two words until I was standing.
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And he's got a pointing and I noticed for the very first time, these two capitalized words.
01:43:38.600
And I think you said, why are these capitalized?
01:43:43.020
Honestly, I probably wouldn't even notice it if it wasn't capitalized.
01:44:01.940
I really believe it makes sense now why they stick Thomas Jefferson out as the slaveholder.
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Because he's the one who actually wrote all men are created equal and endowed by their creator.
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So if you want to discredit that, you have to discredit the author.
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And you have to discredit him in a way where you say, he didn't even believe that.
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To discredit the Declaration of Independence, you have to show that the guy who wrote it was a liar.
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You really have to almost admire their evil work over the years.
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When we were talking about the progressives and we were really doing our work, we said that a lot.
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This is impressive the way they have just dismantled this country and our history.
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Have you read some of the other stuff in there?
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Oh, you've got to read the Thomas Paine letter.
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The stuff that came from the Lincoln Library is still in that case in my office.
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He's claiming he didn't lose the key, but where's the key?
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I blame it on Federal Express because the key was sent by itself so nobody had the key.
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We're going on Facebook Live on The Blaze and Glenn Beck.com.
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And if this is so Glenn Beckian, so if the key isn't there, then I think we have to call
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a locksmith because the museum opens in an hour.
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And so and so I think we have to call a locksmith.
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I mean, it would be a real honor if you knew it was good.
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But I'm not sure that if I call a locksmith and say, hey, I need you to open a giant security
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case, you know, so you so we can get the Gettysburg Address out.
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I'm not sure they will believe it or think it's right to do it because it could seem like
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So and I did call the Lincoln Museum yesterday and said.
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OK, the good news is we haven't lost the Gettysburg Address yet, but well, you haven't checked
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So, Stu, I just found out that the head of the Lincoln Museum is here.
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We just, I just got word a minute ago that the key is on its way and it's UPS, not Federal Express.
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It's just, it's a bit delayed or lost in transit and it's on its way.
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Well, the original copy of the Gettysburg Address, we've, the key is lost.
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Pretend you're the, pretend you're the guy who just loaned us the Gettysburg Address.
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Hey, here's the, I loaned you the Gettysburg Address.
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There's no way to have this conversation with him in work.
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Because the reverse of the word lost would mean someone knowing where it was.
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So anyway, just watch the, we're not going to go live here because.
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What makes you believe the Gettysburg Address is actually in the box?
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Yeah, but Alan could have actually had it in his safe back at home.
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And he's, then he's here to open it up and go, I am shocked.