The Glenn Beck Program - 'Back To The Dark Ages'？ - 6⧸25⧸18

00:00:00.000 The Blaze Radio Network, on demand, Glenn Beck.

00:00:08.500 White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders was kicked out of a restaurant on

00:00:14.800 Friday night, not because she or anybody in her party of eight were talking politics or

00:00:20.740 annoying other customers, but because Sanders has a high profile job for the president that

00:00:26.500 is hated by the left.

00:00:28.340 These days, some hate on the left is disguised as moral conviction.

00:00:34.640 You know, they have a right to their conscience.

00:00:39.120 So the owner of the Red Hen restaurant in Lexington, Virginia, asked Sanders to accompany her to

00:00:45.180 the outside patio where she asked Sanders to leave.

00:00:48.920 The Red Hen owner says this feels like the moment in our democracy when people have to

00:00:54.500 make uncomfortable actions and decisions to uphold their morals.

00:01:00.800 Their right to conscience.

00:01:03.500 What they feel is right.

00:01:06.420 You know what?

00:01:06.960 This person is absolutely, totally correct.

00:01:09.880 It is now the time that people have to stand up and recognize what it is that they believe

00:01:17.120 in, what those principles are that they hold dear and stand up for them or they will lose

00:01:23.500 them.

00:01:25.340 Now, here's the problem, however.

00:01:27.060 Remember, it doesn't take much imagination to consider what hell would have broken loose

00:01:31.480 if a conservative leaning restaurant owner had tried to uphold their morals, you know,

00:01:38.340 if they would have done this to anyone in the in the Obama administration.

00:01:43.160 In just the past few days, protesters have gathered at the dinner table of the DHS secretary,

00:01:50.560 Nielsen, then they gathered at her home and threatened the children of DHS employees.

00:01:57.620 Florida's attorney general was followed to a movie theater where protesters reportedly spat

00:02:01.940 on her and Sarah Huckabee Sanders kicked out of her restaurant because she works at the 1.00

00:02:06.860 White House and the left doesn't see any contradiction in this kind of bullying.

00:02:13.960 Let me say that word again, because it may not be something that they're familiar with,

00:02:18.600 you know, or taught classes or lectured people about bullying the same left that defines discrimination

00:02:26.340 in every square inch of our society is now stalking people, females, no the less, and harassing 1.00

00:02:36.360 them. 0.97

00:02:37.160 The self-righteousness and hypocrisy that is happening in our country is disgusting. 0.96

00:02:45.240 Kicking somebody out of a restaurant, that's not really a new one for Virginia.

00:02:51.700 I mean, it's not, you know, it hasn't been happening recently, but I do believe it was

00:02:57.120 happening in the Jim Crow era.

00:03:00.320 And the left likes to fancy itself the political side that dragged America out of the Jim Crow

00:03:07.600 era.

00:03:08.900 Except they weren't.

00:03:10.160 But they keep returning to the Jim Crow era. 0.90

00:03:14.100 Why?

00:03:15.540 Because they weren't against it in the first place.

00:03:19.600 They were the ones furthering it.

00:03:22.980 George Takai yesterday was on television talking about, oh my gosh, these are, these are the

00:03:29.340 American internment camps for Japanese citizens.

00:03:34.080 Yes, you mean the ones that the progressives built?

00:03:42.900 This is, this is historical fantasy.

00:03:48.760 That the progressives are the ones that are going to free the world.

00:03:52.620 But it's the fantasy that they have to tell themselves so they can sleep at night. 0.78

00:03:56.940 Ironically, they've gone so crazy with their hyper PC microaggression trigger warning bullcrap

00:04:03.500 that they've now come around to discriminating themselves. 0.55

00:04:07.760 And they don't even realize it.

00:04:10.140 They think they're still fighting the good fight, upholding justice.

00:04:13.880 But you see, when you try to silence a Nazi, you have to become a Nazi to do it. 0.62

00:04:22.340 But they've actually, they've ushered in a new era that I would like to call the Jane Crow era. 0.82

00:04:32.660 Where if you even hint that you support something that the left doesn't like, you know, securing

00:04:40.900 the border, you can be stalked, you can be spat upon, you can be kicked out of a restaurant

00:04:47.920 just for having a political view.

00:04:52.280 See, the right has been saying that I have a right to conscience.

00:04:56.260 I have a right of conscience.

00:04:58.080 I have a right of a deeply held religious point of view.

00:05:03.660 You can't force me to do things because of that.

00:05:08.760 What the left doesn't understand is they actually agree with that point of view.

00:05:13.400 They do.

00:05:13.860 They just don't like it called religion.

00:05:16.320 But what they also don't understand is that political parties in America, they have become

00:05:25.220 our God.

00:05:27.560 People aren't really arguing about principles anymore because very few people even have them.

00:05:34.920 What they're really doing is arguing their religious belief because government now issues rights.

00:05:48.500 So government is our God.

00:05:50.820 I know none of this sounds really progressive is because progressives aren't really actually

00:06:00.720 for progress.

00:06:03.240 What it's turned into now is psychotic tyranny.

00:06:07.140 It's Monday, June 25th.

00:06:15.200 This is the Glenn Beck program.

00:06:17.100 Yeah, but but he is doing it, too.

00:06:22.840 Oh, my gosh.

00:06:24.160 You're right.

00:06:25.600 I haven't even I haven't thought of that excuse.

00:06:28.480 Well, I mean, I did use it when I was six and arguing with my sister.

00:06:34.080 You know, but my parents straightened me out on that one.

00:06:38.100 So.

00:06:40.980 Maybe the media is six.

00:06:44.980 You know, I don't know if you if you saw and I don't think that you care.

00:06:49.900 So I want you to know up front.

00:06:52.340 I don't think you care.

00:06:54.020 But what what happened yesterday with me on CNN, I couldn't take it anymore, couldn't take

00:07:04.860 it anymore.

00:07:07.220 I was asked to go on and talk about why the media.

00:07:14.840 Just isn't heard.

00:07:18.220 By the right.

00:07:21.940 Hmm.

00:07:23.160 OK.

00:07:24.480 All right.

00:07:25.500 Well, see, I made a mistake of actually watching the show that I was about to be on.

00:07:31.600 And it was example after example after example of exactly why nobody's listening to the media.

00:07:38.560 First of all, they have the the editor of Time magazine on to explain away why it's perfectly

00:07:45.680 fine to run that picture and take it out of context.

00:07:49.500 It's perfectly fine.

00:07:51.100 Even the photographer didn't have a problem with it.

00:07:53.840 Oh, well, I'm going to remember that.

00:07:56.520 And the next time we want to take a picture out of context, I'm sure you're going to react

00:08:04.820 exactly the same way.

00:08:07.160 And then that was followed by George to Kai.

00:08:11.800 Now, George is known as a uniter.

00:08:14.240 And George gets on to talk about the the American internment camps for the Japanese, something

00:08:23.520 that I am really very passionate about because, well, it's it's another example of the progressives

00:08:32.260 being anything but progressive, showing who they actually are.

00:08:37.600 So he gets on and he's saying how what's happening on the border is exactly the same, that it's

00:08:45.900 happening again.

00:08:46.880 Well, George, I would like to point out there are a few differences, you know, however, what

00:08:58.400 I couldn't get past was how CNN was just so willing to put that on the air and no pushback.

00:09:06.280 I mean, gosh, as I said to Brian Stelter later, Brian, what's next?

00:09:12.980 FEMA camps.

00:09:16.200 You see, I was I was called a crazy man for even saying that this kind of stuff will come,

00:09:24.560 even saying that it may not be this president that does it, but it could be the next or the

00:09:29.760 one after that.

00:09:30.460 I was a conspiracy theorist for saying that it could come.

00:09:35.940 But now that George Takai wants to declare that it has come and it is here, it's all

00:09:41.520 perfectly fine.

00:09:42.560 And I know that if I would have gotten on in 2014 and showed the pictures of the cages,

00:09:48.880 I could have said, my gosh, it looks like the Japanese internment camps.

00:09:53.480 I'm sure Brian and everybody at CNN would have said, well, he makes a good point.

00:10:00.460 No.

00:10:02.520 You want to know why people aren't listening to you?

00:10:06.800 Watch your own show.

00:10:10.420 Try that.

00:10:13.700 But I want you to know.

00:10:18.240 The reason why I walked off the show yesterday had nothing to do with the question.

00:10:24.680 It had everything to do with him proving me correct every step of the way.

00:10:31.900 And I'm just my time is more valuable than that.

00:10:35.900 I would have rather been having breakfast with my kids.

00:10:40.240 It's a waste of time.

00:10:43.160 And I really thought Brian would be a guy who might might actually be open to hearing it.

00:10:50.680 But no, even the Washington Post implied that he was lying in wait for me with his quoting

00:10:57.740 the post, his sly smile.

00:11:00.940 Now, I don't even believe that the Washington Post was making it sound like he was waiting

00:11:07.020 in laying in wait.

00:11:09.500 Wow.

00:11:10.520 Okay.

00:11:11.000 Look, here's the thing.

00:11:18.060 My fight, the stuff that I fight with every day, that's business.

00:11:21.380 That's not a big deal.

00:11:23.600 Nobody cares about that.

00:11:26.940 The fight that is actually going on is the oldest fight known to man.

00:11:34.220 Do each of us have integrity, the strength, the will, the intelligence, and the courage

00:11:42.100 to rule ourselves, to be consistent and fair-minded?

00:11:49.500 Do we have the wisdom and the restraint to not just try to rule over everyone else?

00:11:57.580 And if they step out of line, well, I'm kicking them out of my restaurant.

00:12:00.740 If they step out of line, well, I'm going to shout them down.

00:12:06.780 Personally, I think the red barren lady or a red hen lady, I think she has every right 1.00

00:12:12.700 to do that if she wants. 0.97

00:12:14.180 I think it's foolish, but she has every right to do it. 0.96

00:12:17.760 Oh, my gosh. 0.95

00:12:18.860 Well, where do you stand on the baker?

00:12:20.740 Exactly in the same place.

00:12:22.340 How about you?

00:12:23.580 How about you?

00:12:24.540 When Sarah was kicked out of the restaurant in Virginia, because of the owner's moral stance, 1.00

00:12:37.060 she couldn't tolerate the press secretary being in her restaurant.

00:12:45.480 And I think she was very polite about it.

00:12:47.900 And I think Sarah was very polite about it.

00:12:50.000 However, the people online weren't so polite on either side.

00:12:57.780 Everybody took to their favorite I'm addicted to outrage app, Twitter, Facebook, and the argument began.

00:13:07.280 What was crazy was that the left was voicing their support for her being able to do this.

00:13:17.340 And the right was saying, you know, this should be illegal and this shouldn't happen.

00:13:23.980 I agree it shouldn't happen, but I'm not going to do anything to stop it.

00:13:28.420 I mean, it was, it was, it was amazing.

00:13:39.040 And then there's another group.

00:13:41.560 And I think this is a growing group.

00:13:43.840 The group of Americans that see what's being done.

00:13:47.520 And they just shake their heads and they'll be like, what the? 0.98

00:13:50.740 Do these clowns even recognize that they've just switched places again? 0.98

00:13:58.420 They're arguing the other side because now it helps their side. 0.99

00:14:04.440 It's, it's, it's amazing to me how nobody really saw the gay wedding cake thing. 0.60

00:14:15.260 Here's what, here's what America needs to learn right now.

00:14:19.140 And I speak more to the left than the right because the, the left becomes very militant.

00:14:30.880 I don't know if you've seen the death threats to the president's son or to Congress people or Maxine Waters,

00:14:37.960 all the things where they're going a little farther than saying I'm going to target a district.

00:14:43.980 I don't know if you've noticed this in the press, but it seems to be just a tad further than that.

00:14:55.300 You have to realize that in life, it's not fair.

00:14:59.480 It's not fair.

00:15:00.540 And you're going to be pissed off.

00:15:02.240 There's going to be all kinds of people that piss you off.

00:15:04.580 You need to grow up and you need to maybe have a little thicker skin.

00:15:14.780 And the second thing, the second thing you need to know is, um, we shouldn't be compelled to use our talent to make food or to decorate cakes or anything else.

00:15:27.660 If it violates our conscience, if that's your moral stance, God bless you.

00:15:35.060 I'll just remember not to go there to get a cake or I'll not go there to eat a meal.

00:15:39.460 That's fine.

00:15:39.980 A lot of people will great.

00:15:41.900 There are people that went to the, uh, coffee cup cafe, all strangely spelled with K's.

00:15:50.160 I thought that was great.

00:15:51.780 Good.

00:15:52.440 I know where I'm not going to go.

00:15:54.360 I know what town in Texas I should avoid.

00:15:58.100 The one that has the KKK, I'm sorry, the coffee cup cafe. 0.56

00:16:05.740 I think it's great.

00:16:07.980 It has really been great for me to see what people on the left and what people on the right, who they really are, what they really actually believe.

00:16:19.540 I think it's been great because I know who to avoid.

00:16:23.280 I know who I'm standing with now.

00:16:25.740 I know where I am.

00:16:28.840 And very clarifying.

00:16:32.560 More voices, not left.

00:16:35.920 But it's called a right of conscience.

00:16:38.060 And the left doesn't see it because they now worship the altar of politicians, political parties, and social status.

00:16:47.740 But so do many people on the right.

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00:18:33.600 By the way, my official response to Brian Stelter and CNN coming up top of hour three.

00:18:43.940 You know, for anybody who is interested in that.

00:18:48.840 Brian's like, oh, my gosh.

00:18:51.000 Hour three.

00:18:52.940 Okay, I'll be there.

00:18:55.620 It is such a...

00:18:57.100 It is...

00:18:58.260 And maybe I'll just give you a sneak peek.

00:19:01.720 What a waste of time.

00:19:04.880 What a waste of time the media is engaged in.

00:19:12.780 With all of the things that are going on in the world and all of the discussions we should be having.

00:19:20.340 What a waste of time.

00:19:21.880 But we'll have that conversation and I'll try not to talk down to them like Brian was yesterday to me.

00:19:33.080 Because I actually would like them to hear what the problem is.

00:19:40.380 I just don't think they're actually interested.

00:19:47.180 All right.

00:19:48.680 I'll do it one more time.

00:19:50.480 One more time.

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00:19:53.640 Good luck with that.

00:19:55.240 That's the top of hour three.

00:19:57.260 More in just a second of the bigger questions that we should be asking ourselves when we come back.

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00:21:08.760 Who or what is your God?

00:21:15.660 Who do you worship?

00:21:17.620 Who do you serve?

00:21:19.500 What do you serve?

00:21:21.300 When push comes to shove, what's the most important thing to you?

00:21:26.300 What is the thing that is guiding your discussions and your lives?

00:21:30.880 My God is not status.

00:21:33.040 My God is not a politician.

00:21:35.040 My God does not belong to a party.

00:21:37.580 The God that I serve has given man free will.

00:21:45.760 The right to choose, the right to succeed, the right to fail, the right to be a monster, or the right to be a great man.

00:21:59.120 Or in the case of both Gandhi and Churchill, two great men, a little of both, a monster and a great man.

00:22:11.560 You see, God has given us. 1.00

00:22:13.560 You see, God has given us the right to be an idiot. 1.00

00:22:18.560 So who am I to deny that right? 1.00

00:22:20.260 If God's given us the right to be an idiot, I'm not going to stop you from being an idiot. 1.00

00:22:26.700 I don't have a right to do that. 1.00

00:22:28.060 But the God I worship and I serve has also given man a noble spirit with an unquenchable desire to be better, to transcend, to grow, to reach beyond the muck.

00:22:43.780 Look, no such spirit among those who worship politics or politicians, not that I have seen anyway.

00:22:55.280 I haven't seen that spirit. 1.00

00:22:58.380 But there are certainly plenty of idiots. 1.00

00:23:01.580 Those of us who live in Dallas, in Chicago, hell, Los Angeles, New York City, Seattle, Atlanta. 1.00

00:23:17.680 There's a group of people that are afraid to offer their opinion.

00:23:21.860 Why?

00:23:24.600 Why?

00:23:25.080 Why must we hide our faith and be made to feel shame because you're worshiping your God?

00:23:34.940 Why must I hide the God I worship?

00:23:39.200 Why must I be made to feel shame?

00:23:44.320 You know, we are being dragged back into the dark ages.

00:23:48.500 It's totally clear.

00:23:50.520 The period of enlightenment where you could question with boldness even the existence of God.

00:23:58.480 Well, that's what created our nation.

00:24:02.400 That's what created real freedom for the first time.

00:24:07.080 The spirit of America is the spirit that brought us out of darkness.

00:24:11.160 The willingness to question everything and to speak without fear.

00:24:16.800 But we are being dragged back into a world where men died. 0.53

00:24:24.600 They died in chambers of horrors because they just could no longer deny what they knew to be true.

00:24:33.240 William Tyndale, he was burned at the stake.

00:24:35.580 He's the guy who first translated the Bible into English.

00:24:38.300 His crime was that he his belief that if the king derived his power from God and God's word is contained in the Bible,

00:24:47.020 then I should be able to read that word in my own native tongue.

00:24:51.080 And I don't need a priest or an intermediary to interpret it for me.

00:24:55.880 I'm smart enough to figure it out.

00:24:58.580 Oh, my gosh.

00:24:59.680 The church and the king.

00:25:01.740 Well, they were competitors, you know, competing for power.

00:25:05.080 Or were they?

00:25:07.760 In the end, they worked together to try to prevent men from thinking for themselves, one protecting the other.

00:25:16.480 And the same is true today.

00:25:18.820 You have a government and the media competing for power and influence.

00:25:24.240 They're competitors, you know.

00:25:25.400 No, they're not.

00:25:26.680 Each of us are telling us what to think, what to say, and what to believe.

00:25:30.520 They each want to tell us what is right and what is wrong, what is acceptable and unacceptable.

00:25:37.120 And they're doing it in a fashion to where you can't even question it, even if it makes no sense at all. 1.00

00:25:44.980 Well, it's just you're too stupid to understand. 0.98

00:25:47.280 And they are being taught by the high priest, the robe clerics of our generation and of our time, the robed clerics of higher education, their jobs made safe by tenure, paid for by the money taken from the peasants, either through new government studies that are designed really just to prove that the earth is at the center of the universe or whatever it is. 1.00

00:26:14.300 As those in power want to prove, the government also makes it easy for those same peasants to be chained and beholden to the debt incurred to be taught what to think, how to behave and how to be the model serf and slave.

00:26:30.960 Oh, it can't be.

00:26:32.440 Oh, yeah.

00:26:34.300 Yeah.

00:26:37.280 You know, let me ask you a question.

00:26:38.720 Why is it we continue to see that at the highest scientific and technological advancement in all human history, when science is at its apex, American students leave our high schools and universities with a scientific illiteracy of 95 percent.

00:27:03.740 That is higher than the illiteracy among blacks at the time of slavery.

00:27:09.820 Well, I know why people didn't want to teach a black man to read back then.

00:27:15.800 Why are universities doing such a horrendous job of teaching us basics like history, math, science, reading?

00:27:26.800 You see, we believe that the politician and the media are enemies, but they're not.

00:27:36.020 They need each other.

00:27:37.380 They feed off of one another.

00:27:39.380 They even protect one another.

00:27:42.620 They're all engaged in entertaining and televising this entertaining war.

00:27:49.580 They've turned us into spectators, asked us to pick sides.

00:27:56.280 Don't do it.

00:27:57.940 Don't do it.

00:27:59.900 Think for yourself.

00:28:02.980 You're smart enough.

00:28:04.880 Don't take what I say as gospel or anybody else.

00:28:08.880 Think for yourself.

00:28:10.340 Do your own research.

00:28:11.860 We, the people, cannot be reduced to the mindless sheep herded by whatever dog barks the loudest.

00:28:20.740 But that is what we're becoming.

00:28:22.740 We're becoming sheep with no shepherds.

00:28:26.260 America was always the land of shepherds and no sheep. 0.92

00:28:33.120 Is anyone actually looking for the solution to the border?

00:28:37.560 Nope.

00:28:38.160 Nope.

00:28:39.560 It's all about clicks, ratings, outrage, voter drives, midterm elections, fundraising, fundraising, fundraising, and fundraising.

00:28:48.320 That's all it's about.

00:28:49.700 That's it.

00:28:53.540 I'm not going to play that game anymore.

00:28:56.040 The game of false outrage for ratings, power, cash.

00:29:02.260 I mean, when I say I don't play it, I don't play it on my show.

00:29:05.700 I'm not going to engage on anybody else's show.

00:29:08.680 I don't care.

00:29:10.300 It's a waste of time.

00:29:14.320 Time is the only thing that we have.

00:29:16.680 Time and credibility.

00:29:18.260 Those belong to me.

00:29:22.700 I'm not going to waste it.

00:29:28.560 It's a free country, at least for the time being.

00:29:33.420 But unless we wake one another up, unless we decide, you know what?

00:29:41.520 This is insane.

00:29:43.780 What's happening is insane.

00:29:45.520 What's happening is insane.

00:29:48.360 And I don't like what's happening over there.

00:29:51.040 Now, what am I doing over on our side?

00:29:53.880 I don't think both sides are equal, but I do think that both sides are involved.

00:30:03.040 I think most people in the country, when it comes to Donald Trump, I don't think they necessarily like him.

00:30:15.100 I don't think they necessarily agree with his principles and the way he handles himself.

00:30:21.680 But I think a lot of people, including me, are surprised that he has done things, for instance, like Israel.

00:30:29.140 Now, you're faced with a choice.

00:30:36.580 Okay, I'll do that.

00:30:39.880 Let me ask you this.

00:30:41.580 I see the media doing the same kind of deceitful things and then justifying it.

00:30:46.940 Donald Trump, I don't even think I've ever heard him say,

00:30:49.540 No, no, I'm going to be the most honest guy ever.

00:30:54.240 I don't think he's ever made that claim.

00:30:56.040 He said he's going to win and you're going to get tired of winning.

00:31:00.520 Well, that's what he's doing.

00:31:03.540 But the media, on the other hand, the media has said,

00:31:07.260 Oh, they're good.

00:31:07.700 They're honest.

00:31:08.180 They're fair and balanced.

00:31:09.420 No, they're not.

00:31:10.680 No, they're not.

00:31:11.640 That's why that's why that ad on CNN.

00:31:14.340 That was brilliant.

00:31:16.240 This is an apple.

00:31:17.280 This is a banana.

00:31:18.320 Why didn't that work?

00:31:20.360 Why didn't that work?

00:31:22.700 Because of promise versus performance.

00:31:25.200 Nobody believes you.

00:31:27.300 Nobody believes you.

00:31:28.520 That ad was brilliant and it was mocked.

00:31:32.400 Now, maybe not in your cocktail circles there, but everywhere else in the country it was.

00:31:37.600 But unless we plant our flag in reason and decency and self-reflection, self-awareness, thicker skin,

00:31:51.800 until we develop thicker skin and work on being more kind, we're going to lose our freedom, all of us.

00:32:03.020 And I know that's not hyperbole because yesterday I saw CNN spend quite a bit of time with George Takai talking about American internment camps once used for Americans of Japanese descent and how it's happening on the border right now.

00:32:21.560 The same thing.

00:32:24.180 So I can't be a fear monger.

00:32:27.320 I mean, I debunked the FEMA camps.

00:32:30.300 But what is the difference between what Alex Jones said was happening with the secret camps where Americans were being held in cages and what George Takai and CNN and the press is saying happening right now on the border?

00:32:43.860 How can my saying years ago, we are close to losing our right to live, work, to speak, to be around people with different opinions, to make your own choice, to be around people with different backgrounds and that maybe not this president or the next president, but we are headed towards real trouble.

00:33:10.680 The same seeds are being planted that were planted in the 1930s.

00:33:15.300 How can that be crazy if now the media is declaring that Trump is a Nazi and these are concentration camps?

00:33:25.980 Oh, I couldn't have been crazy. 0.90

00:33:27.880 I must have been Nostradamus.

00:33:30.880 It's just happened much sooner than even I had thought.

00:33:36.620 Hmm.

00:33:40.680 Why do these elites have power? 0.97

00:33:47.100 Because we give it to them.

00:33:51.780 We give it to them.

00:33:53.440 And we sell our children, actually.

00:33:57.460 They make us buy our children's slave chains by sending them to a university.

00:34:07.100 Decent people need to stand up.

00:34:10.680 In all the right places, with all the right principles and faith and common decency and tolerance, real tolerance for one another's different opinion.

00:34:22.620 Every poll shows that we are united by simple American ideals, even on the border.

00:34:28.420 We all know that what's happening on the border is wrong.

00:34:31.660 It's amazing, a really bright spot.

00:34:33.900 But we still do hold these truths to be self-evident.

00:34:40.720 But the media and the politician hasn't made enough money yet.

00:34:44.880 The question is, where's our bottom?

00:34:50.840 What is our breaking point?

00:34:53.880 When will we stand up and say, yeah, I've had enough.

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00:36:31.060 Stu just said to me, so was that the response to CNN?

00:36:35.880 And I said, no, no, no, that's still to come.

00:36:38.500 I guess that could have been a response to CNN.

00:36:40.420 Everything I'm doing today is kind of shaped by that.

00:36:44.260 Because we have an amazing choice to be made.

00:36:49.060 And what are we going to focus on?

00:36:50.540 Are we going to focus on cakes and circuses?

00:36:53.080 Or are we going to focus on real issues?

00:36:55.280 You know, in a minute, we're going to talk to you a little bit about Maxine Waters.

00:36:58.800 That's quite an amazing thing.

00:37:00.620 Isn't it?

00:37:01.220 You mean an elected official telling people to go out and harass others in public?

00:37:05.660 Yeah, well, especially in the same week where, you know, two elected officials had their children threatened with rape, kidnapping, and murder.

00:37:14.600 It was at the same week where the Department of Homeland Security was kicked out of the, or thrown out of the Mr. Rogers documentary.

00:37:22.780 Well, I don't know about that.

00:37:23.740 It was the same week where they did surround her house.

00:37:29.780 Oh, yeah, that's right.

00:37:31.340 That's right.

00:37:31.840 It was Pam Bondi who was kicked out of the Mr. Rogers thing. 1.00

00:37:35.560 I got them all confused.

00:37:37.060 It's a little bit confusing when there's so many of them.

00:37:40.040 Because this is not Ajit Pai, the FCC guy for net neutrality, who his house was surrounded earlier.

00:37:45.060 That was a couple months ago.

00:37:46.380 It's like ancient history.

00:37:47.180 This is all last week.

00:37:48.960 Maxine Waters next. 0.50

00:37:50.000 Glenn Beck.

00:37:52.860 Let's save the course.

00:37:55.140 Let's make sure we show up wherever we have to show up.

00:37:59.220 And if you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd.

00:38:10.960 And you push back on them.

00:38:13.300 And you tell them they're not welcome anymore, anywhere.

00:38:17.900 Wow, there she is. 1.00

00:38:21.060 Maxine Robespierre Waters.

00:38:23.580 You know, we have a guillotine here in the studios.

00:38:26.280 I think we should bring it in.

00:38:27.820 It's the Maxine Waters guillotine.

00:38:29.920 I mean, why don't we just start guillotining people? 0.96

00:38:32.080 So to execute all conservatives? 0.98

00:38:33.820 Yeah, or anybody that Maxine says we should execute. 0.98

00:38:36.320 Okay, good.

00:38:36.760 You're not welcome here.

00:38:37.700 So Maxine makes the decisions.

00:38:38.460 I want to make sure I understand.

00:38:39.480 Yes, yes.

00:38:39.580 Bring the rage to the streets.

00:38:41.680 Let me quote Robespierre, Mr. Reign of Terror himself.

00:38:47.100 To punish the oppressors of humanity is clemency.

00:38:51.440 To forgive them is cruelty.

00:38:55.000 Hmm.

00:38:55.900 Wow.

00:38:56.360 Sounds familiar, doesn't it?

00:38:57.400 Now, here's my question for the media.

00:39:01.740 Can you honestly say that if someone from the Tea Party or anyone in Congress that was GOP would have said the same thing during the Obama administration, that you would have been cool?

00:39:17.440 That you would treat this story exactly the same?

00:39:20.840 No.

00:39:21.180 You would be calling for her resignation.

00:39:23.320 You would have immediately branded her a terrorist. 0.98

00:39:30.920 She would have been rounded up and thrown in the Bastille, waiting for her execution. 0.61

00:39:39.680 You see, this is yet another reason why the American people no longer believe the media.

00:39:46.960 They cannot see their own blindness.

00:39:49.840 And they're not looking.

00:39:54.200 They don't care.

00:39:56.360 They have gone blind with rage.

00:39:59.780 The cries for rage heard this weekend.

00:40:07.380 Protests against ICE sprung up all over the country.

00:40:10.880 An ICE facility in New York was forced to shut down after being laid siege upon by a group called Metropolitan Anarchist Coordinating Council.

00:40:21.420 An Anarchy Coordinating Council. 1.00

00:40:24.800 Let's just ponder the stupidity of that phrase for a second. 0.99

00:40:30.160 The same thing happened in Oregon after a protest by the Democratic Socialists of America forced Portland ICE facility to shut down. 0.99

00:40:40.440 Socialists and anarchists are teaming up all over the country.

00:40:45.460 Now, that is weird.

00:40:47.440 How and why would an anarchist, the one who said, I don't want any government, team up with a group of people who want big government?

00:40:56.640 Isn't that weird?

00:40:59.720 They're using the immigration debate to kickstart the Occupy movement again.

00:41:04.400 Occupy ICE is the latest version of the renewed season of rage.

00:41:09.400 Is it possible that this is the summer of 1968?

00:41:15.060 On Saturday, a Texas Border Patrol agent suffered a broken ankle after defending a woman during one of those assaults on immigration facilities.

00:41:25.020 200 protesters from the League of United Latin American Citizens were bussed in.

00:41:30.840 Who bussed them in?

00:41:32.440 Who was paying for the bus?

00:41:35.160 They were bussed into McAllen from all over Texas.

00:41:37.980 The League is an open borders, free college, pro-single-payer health care advocacy group that gets their funding from George Soros' Open Society Institute.

00:41:51.000 Did we really need to know who bussed them in?

00:41:55.020 Now, let me just ask you a question.

00:41:57.060 If we can't pay for the Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security benefits that we already have,

00:42:02.340 if you open the borders, how are we going to pay for all of that and more?

00:42:10.440 So what we have are socialists, anarchists, and billionaire Hungarians all after one thing. 0.92

00:42:17.860 Rage-filled chaos.

00:42:20.120 You see, this is what I can't take anymore.

00:42:31.880 I can't take it anymore.

00:42:35.080 I'm a conspiracy theorist who just happened to be exactly right in 2014.

00:42:45.700 Really?

00:42:47.140 Huh.

00:42:48.300 That's weird.

00:42:48.920 How is that conspiracy theorist?

00:42:50.120 Because they're actually saying that it's worse than what I was saying was coming.

00:42:59.520 You have begged people to see what was happening.

00:43:02.580 You have.

00:43:03.060 When the migrant caravans began descending on our border recently, you were here when I said, 1.00

00:43:12.020 get used to it because this is the next attack.

00:43:16.520 Now, I thought it would be a caravan.

00:43:18.760 No, no.

00:43:20.080 They just needed to find the way to do it.

00:43:23.440 But here it is.

00:43:24.820 Both the media and the left bringing forth chaos.

00:43:29.820 It's happening right now.

00:43:31.460 And thanks to people like Maxine Waters and the ignoring or double standard of the media,

00:43:41.380 it's only going to get worse.

00:43:47.900 It's Monday, June 25th.

00:43:50.300 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:43:52.060 Eat more crow.

00:44:04.540 And other signs of a dangerously politicized America is a great, great article by Nick Gillespie.

00:44:12.880 He is the editor-at-large of Reason Magazine, and he is joining us now.

00:44:18.820 Nick, how are you?

00:44:19.540 I'm good, Glenn.

00:44:21.560 Thanks for having me on.

00:44:22.620 This is, you know, what's happening just this weekend is insane.

00:44:29.360 Everything has become political.

00:44:31.780 Absolutely everything.

00:44:32.620 I agree with you completely, and it's not a good thing.

00:44:38.900 The more politicized every aspect of our lives gets, the tougher it is to just go out to the corner and pick up your newspaper and come back home.

00:44:47.940 And I will rush to hopefully complicate and possibly enrage you a little bit, too, of that this is not all simply coming from the left or from liberals.

00:44:58.920 Oh, I know that.

00:44:59.400 Yeah, I mean, to be honest, stuff like, you know, whether you kneel or stand or, you know, tap dance during the national anthem at a football game.

00:45:10.820 It's one thing, the way that people wear different insignias on their coats to signify this or that, you know, who gets to decide what cause, you know, what cause or what belief in a person means that you want to do business with them in a business that is technically open to all comers.

00:45:29.860 It's a real problem, and, you know, the starting point of my piece and why it says eat more crow was that one of the founders of Twitter, who also has another company that does kind of cash bonus thing, Jack Dorsey, he made the mistake of, you know, and, of course, because he's selling his company all the time, his wallet was linked to his Twitter feed.

00:45:53.660 And it turned out a couple of weeks ago, just as Gay Pride Month was starting, he went and had some Chick-fil-A, and that showed up in his feed.

00:46:01.540 And then he got attacked for eating an anti-gay chicken sandwich, which he immediately, you know, he immediately apologized for.

00:46:10.040 You know, I like the idea, you know, I'm a small-l libertarian.

00:46:14.260 I like to live my commitments.

00:46:15.960 I like to be the person that I think, you know, I want to try and incarnate the world that I see,

00:46:21.900 the values of tolerance and pluralism and the voluntary exchange and all that.

00:46:26.900 But there is a time where it's just like, geez, you know, if you're politics all the time, that's why it's so horrible living in America in the 21st century.

00:46:36.880 Yeah, and it's not getting better.

00:46:38.300 And, Nick, for instance, this weekend, I stand by this woman at the Red Hen House or whatever it is, you know, saying I don't want her in. 0.99

00:46:48.600 Okay, well, that's fine. 0.89

00:46:50.860 I think she has a right, just as the gay baker has a right. 0.86

00:46:54.760 And it's amazing how people just keep switching sides.

00:46:57.680 I'm not here to tell you what to do, who to serve, how to apply your art.

00:47:01.920 You have a right of conscience, period.

00:47:04.640 And it makes for an ugly world sometimes, but you have the right to do it.

00:47:09.440 I just can't take the constant politicizing and then the flipping of sides as it becomes convenient for you.

00:47:18.100 Yeah, I agree with you completely.

00:47:20.280 And that that's actually, you know, it's that cynicism that I think is what is really driving people nuts, because it would be bad.

00:47:28.960 And we know this, because this is what, you know, the countries like the Soviet Union or East Germany used to do, where, you know, the worst art that you could produce in East Germany or the Soviet Union was not political, like a political pop song that criticized Gorbachev.

00:47:43.960 It was songs that were simply about, you know, like teenage love that had no politics in them.

00:47:49.320 That's what drove them insane.

00:47:50.640 And in America today, it's, you know, where we are is everything is political and everybody knows that it's just situational and that, you know, if it's Obama doing one thing, then one side will say, oh, that was great.

00:48:04.580 And then it becomes Trump and everybody says this is pure evil.

00:48:08.040 And we all know that.

00:48:09.580 And it's one of the reasons why polls continue to show, and they've been showing this forever for good reason, fewer and fewer of us want to identify as a Republican or as a Democrat, as a liberal or a conservative,

00:48:20.280 because we know everybody around us is just full of BS.

00:48:24.640 And they're just looking for the next cheap win in some kind of never ending battle of, you know, I know you are, but what, you know, I know I am, but what are you?

00:48:33.300 It's exactly right.

00:48:34.240 Nick, it's interesting because it feels this way to me, at least, that it's been like this forever.

00:48:38.700 But you kind of go back and trace the history of this.

00:48:41.220 And it really, this is sort of a new thing for America.

00:48:44.200 I do.

00:48:45.060 Well, in the piece at Reason.com, I kind of peg it, at least in this latest wave.

00:48:49.560 And, you know, it's always like a background noise.

00:48:52.180 But I think a lot of it has to do with, you know, part of it is 9-11, obviously, like that, that upped the stakes.

00:48:59.140 And then suddenly people, you know, didn't want to be nuanced or considerate anymore.

00:49:03.820 Like, you know, you were with us or against us and everybody kind of freaked out.

00:49:07.420 I actually say it goes back a little bit before that to the election of 2000, which ended in a way that nobody predicted.

00:49:15.180 And, you know, we can go through all of the, you know, the old battles.

00:49:18.520 But basically it came down to a handful of votes out of millions of votes cast.

00:49:22.900 It was a complete dead heat.

00:49:24.260 And as we started looking at the literal, you know, the actual mechanics of voting, and I think we'll remember, maybe not everybody, those, you know, those hanging chads, those paper ballots that were being looked at as if they were, you know, I mean, you know, it was like outer space, something like that.

00:49:41.880 You know, the DNA code of the entire universe.

00:49:44.640 Was this a vote or not?

00:49:48.280 How could you impute intention if two parts of the chad were connected but not a third?

00:49:53.340 You know, but it became this sense of two things.

00:49:56.460 One of unreality of that.

00:49:58.080 Like when you really get down to rock bottom and, you know, you get into the secret hangar where the alien autopsies are, you look at there's something on the table, but you're not sure what the hell it is.

00:50:07.800 Like maybe it's not real at all, but then on top of that, the stakes, we were constantly being told that the stakes were so high because Bush and Gore were radically different people and one meant life for the country and the other meant death or something.

00:50:21.100 So you simultaneously had a breakdown of basic reality and a real heightening of the perceived stakes of things.

00:50:28.340 And I think that, you know, and then, you know, the growth of social media and the growth of, you know, harder and harder politics because precisely because the parties no longer control themselves very well.

00:50:42.680 And the coalitions that they were developed to build or to represent were mostly done in the 70s and 80s.

00:50:48.960 And they don't really, the groups that they represent don't really exist anymore.

00:50:53.380 So you have people battling for stuff that represents fewer and few people who they say they're representing.

00:51:00.660 Yeah, and I guess it was interesting reading your piece in that it brought me back to another time because, as you point out, the conversation before the 2000 election was not we're too politically divided and everyone's turning politics into everything.

00:51:14.540 It was the exact opposite.

00:51:15.640 People were worried that people were not engaged with politics at all and no one was showing up to vote and too apathetic.

00:51:21.840 Yeah, the vanishing voter, you know, the AWOL electorate it was called and whatnot.

00:51:27.180 And, of course, you know, there was anger and ire.

00:51:29.220 I mean, any of us who remember the 90s know, you know, there were moments where, oh, Jerry Falwell introduced a series of documentaries, you know, listing all of Bill Clinton's murders and things like that.

00:51:39.960 You know, there was like some pretty crazy stuff going on at very high levels.

00:51:43.880 But, yeah, it was, you know, one of the problems that a lot of people were worried about was that nobody was engaged in politics.

00:51:52.720 Voter turnout was bad.

00:51:53.760 The voter turnout for the 2000 election, you know, which we knew was going to be close, which everybody was saying this is, you know, for the 21st century, like we're either going in this direction or that direction.

00:52:02.860 Most important election in your lifetime, et cetera, et cetera, it had mediocre turnout.

00:52:08.000 And, by the way, it's also fascinating if you go back and look at that, Gore and Bush split so many parts of the demographic of voters, you wouldn't have felt like they were basically even on women.

00:52:19.960 They were even on the youth vote.

00:52:21.360 The Democrats did much better with blacks and Latinos, but Bush did very well with Latinos.

00:52:27.820 When you look at the way in which Republican presidential and Democratic presidential candidates score, you know, and we've seen, you know, one wins one year, the other side wins the other.

00:52:37.900 But they have a much more fractured set of people voting for that.

00:52:45.160 Nick Gillespie, editor of large Reason Magazine.

00:52:48.360 You need to read this particular article.

00:52:51.420 It's called Eat More Crow. 0.95

00:52:53.300 Nick, thanks.

00:52:54.060 Thanks an awful lot.

00:52:54.980 Appreciate it.

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00:54:27.860 So, you know, when you listen or you read Nick's article on reason, you see this is not reasonable what's happening, even with Maxine Waters.

00:54:44.820 I mean, look what she's doing. 1.00

00:54:46.400 She's doing.

00:54:47.620 Now, we used to just ignore that.

00:54:51.780 That was the deal.

00:54:52.880 We just ignored it.

00:54:53.620 They were doing all of this same stuff before.

00:54:56.940 We ignored it.

00:54:57.500 Now, you could make the case that that's part of the problem.

00:55:00.880 We just let it grow.

00:55:02.660 But instead, what we've done is we've allowed our own sides to do the same thing to us that she's doing to her side.

00:55:13.860 And we're all just making everything about politics.

00:55:17.700 And it's not.

00:55:19.240 Is your life really about politics?

00:55:21.480 Why are we spending so much time on politics?

00:55:25.460 Look at the conversations that we could be having.

00:55:28.200 Look at the money that is being spent to destroy one side or the other.

00:55:35.800 What a waste.

00:55:37.840 What a waste.

00:55:39.200 This is the country that is currently still changing the world with technology?

00:55:44.280 This is who we are?

00:55:46.820 That's not who we are.

00:55:47.780 And we know it.

00:55:49.160 Instinctively, we know it.

00:55:50.340 Yeah.

00:55:50.480 And it's amazing, too, looking back at the history of it in that there were still crazy political attacks by both sides at the highest levels of these parties and advocacy organizations.

00:56:01.760 And, you know, people were still trashing each other.

00:56:04.620 We just didn't care.

00:56:06.040 We just said, ah, they're politicians and, you know, they're running their mouths.

00:56:09.560 And it doesn't mean that you shouldn't be engaged in politics.

00:56:12.280 You should if you're interested in that.

00:56:15.060 Right.

00:56:15.260 I mean, at the end of Jonah Goldberg's book has a great segment about how maybe not everybody, we should be encouraging everyone to go out and vote.

00:56:24.240 I mean, not everyone is following it.

00:56:26.380 If you're not following it, like we had this thing like don't inform yourself.

00:56:29.420 Just go out and vote.

00:56:30.440 Be part of the process.

00:56:31.360 Don't be part of the process if you don't know what you're talking about. 1.00

00:56:33.480 You're a moron. 1.00

00:56:33.740 It doesn't make any sense. 1.00

00:56:34.320 Stay away.

00:56:34.920 You shouldn't pay.

00:56:35.640 You should not pay it.

00:56:36.680 You should not join.

00:56:37.760 You should not commit, you know.

00:56:38.840 I mean, I know this is really controversial to say, but this is the way we were set up.

00:56:43.600 It was landowners.

00:56:44.340 It wasn't that women couldn't vote. 1.00

00:56:46.400 Women could vote. 1.00

00:56:47.800 Women voted in the colonial era. 0.50

00:56:50.460 They were just widows. 0.97

00:56:52.760 Because men were the landowners, so you had to be a landowner. 0.97

00:56:56.940 If you were a woman and you owned land, you voted. 0.99

00:57:00.520 It was one vote per landowner.

00:57:03.960 So what it was was the people who had skin in the game, they were the ones voting.

00:57:10.480 And when all of that turns and you become a nation that is just filled with people who want free stuff, it doesn't last.

00:57:20.280 It doesn't work.

00:57:21.080 Yeah.

00:57:21.260 I mean, and look, obviously, as someone who prefers renting, I would not necessarily like to return to that standard.

00:57:26.120 However, it's a skin in the game just means sense.

00:57:30.920 You don't go in and you, you know, perform a surgery unless you've done the work to understand how the human anatomy works.

00:57:37.780 Right.

00:57:38.300 And this is an important thing.

00:57:39.820 You need to learn first, then vote.

00:57:41.760 That shouldn't be controversial at all, but it is in today's society.

00:57:44.380 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:57:56.260 Slade Magazine.

00:57:58.300 I mean, you cannot make this up.

00:58:01.180 Slade Magazine.

00:58:02.340 When Sarah Huckabee Sanders took to her official Twitter account to recount how she was kicked out of a Virginia restaurant, 1.00

00:58:08.100 it launched a vicious online attack campaign against the establishment.

00:58:12.200 It also amounted to a violation of federal ethics laws.

00:58:16.260 Oh, my goodness.

00:58:18.100 Oh, my goodness.

00:58:19.320 So here's what happened.

00:58:21.260 Apparently, Slade Magazine found somebody who was a former head of the Office of Government Ethics to go right on the record,

00:58:34.600 detailing that that tweet amounted to a violation.

00:58:37.360 Sanders used her official government account to to condemn a private business for personal reasons,

00:58:44.100 seeks to coerce businesses by using her office to get the public to pressure it. 1.00

00:58:48.900 It violates the endorsement ban as well, which has an obvious corollary for discouraging patronage.

00:58:56.900 Oh, my gosh.

00:58:58.400 She can't do this using her official position and her Twitter.

00:59:03.040 Okay.

00:59:04.320 I don't know if the left knows this, but you should not be talking about people who violate, you know, ethics and and rules and regulations about what they do with their personal phones,

00:59:19.520 as opposed to their public addresses.

00:59:23.600 I'm just saying that maybe you're not exactly the ones to bring that up.

00:59:31.040 It's just an it is an amazing world, though, where, you know, you have an elected official, Maxine Waters, advocating for the harassment of women as they go out in their daily lives.

00:59:42.460 Think about think about this for a moment.

00:59:45.940 You know, we hear all the time of the pressure of a superior at work hinting something, giving an insinuation that maybe a person should do X, Y or Z to advance their career and how serious that is.

00:59:59.960 And it is right.

01:00:00.820 You shouldn't that should never happen.

01:00:02.020 What Maxine Waters advocated for this weekend was to surround and surround, create a crowd, push back to any person from the administration and obviously female being the most recent example is examples in with the DHS secretary and Sarah Huckabee Sanders. 1.00

01:00:23.280 Strange how many women in power for this person who hates women so much. 1.00

01:00:26.240 But the idea that surrounding them, pushing back when they're out at a dinner and a movie at a gas station.

01:00:34.980 Remember, think of think of a woman alone pumping gas. 1.00

01:00:37.940 She's advocating that she should be surrounded and harassed. 1.00

01:00:41.260 And that's completely OK from an elected official.

01:00:44.740 I mean, there have been, I will say, some on the left that have said things about this and pushed back on it.

01:00:52.880 Oh, I'm sure there will be those that will say they'll publish one story and say, oh, my God, we spoke out about this.

01:00:59.940 This is wrong.

01:01:01.200 No.

01:01:01.700 See, that's the problem.

01:01:03.260 That's the problem.

01:01:04.140 That's the problem.

01:01:04.980 That's the good side.

01:01:06.000 The problem is a lot of people agreeing with it.

01:01:08.460 You got a Maxine Waters with a megaphone telling people they should do it more often.

01:01:13.240 Yes.

01:01:13.760 That's the problem.

01:01:14.760 I mean, at least people who are at least they're saying, hey, this is not this is over the line, which I think is a positive, though.

01:01:20.900 I would probably grant you that it's not as positive as I would design.

01:01:24.860 Well, here's the thing.

01:01:26.800 Just look at how they talked about Sarah Palin's rhetoric.

01:01:30.560 Why?

01:01:32.140 They had to go to they had to go to I'm targeting this district to make it sound violent.

01:01:40.440 And that lasted for what?

01:01:42.420 A week?

01:01:43.060 Two weeks?

01:01:43.980 Months.

01:01:44.420 OK, I mean, it just went on and on and on.

01:01:48.060 Here you have somebody actually calling for violence, intimidation at the very least.

01:01:55.240 Yeah, I don't know.

01:01:55.680 She I mean, she says push back, which I mean, obviously it would be similar to the targeting thing.

01:02:00.620 Right.

01:02:00.760 If you want to make the targeting standard is clear.

01:02:02.700 It's violence.

01:02:03.540 However, I think the rational human being standard says, well, you should, you know, she they're harassing us.

01:02:10.660 We should harass them is her standard. 0.95

01:02:12.440 So now it's not right.

01:02:13.840 Yeah.

01:02:14.320 So because that's she started it or he started it and that's not right.

01:02:22.160 And you know what they will say is, well, this is caused by Donald Trump.

01:02:30.260 Really? 0.99

01:02:31.680 So she's a zombie to Donald Trump. 1.00

01:02:35.200 She's just doing this. 0.96

01:02:37.140 You have no self-control.

01:02:40.880 You who are pointing out that Donald Trump's rhetoric is is really unhealthy, to say it mildly, for the body politic.

01:02:51.040 I agree with you.

01:02:53.800 So to shut him down.

01:02:56.420 Do you now engage in the same tactics?

01:03:01.560 Where's your moral high ground?

01:03:03.220 Where is where is your argument that this is wrong? 0.90

01:03:07.140 Well, I've been lecturing people about bullying, but he's a bully.

01:03:11.560 So let's bully him back. 0.56

01:03:13.820 Oh, OK.

01:03:14.880 Oh, that makes sense.

01:03:17.260 And so they'll wash their hands of this because they'll say, well, look, he he's worse.

01:03:22.920 Oh, my gosh.

01:03:24.820 I'm sorry.

01:03:26.140 Maybe everybody in the media doesn't have kids because you would never accept that excuse from your kids ever.

01:03:34.020 No, of course not ever.

01:03:35.000 And it goes back to what Nick Gillespie was talking about at the beginning of this hour.

01:03:38.380 You know, it's not the people like Maxine Waters who have changed. 0.61

01:03:41.940 It's so many of us because Maxine Waters was was nuts back then. 0.97

01:03:46.360 There was an equivalent Maxine Waters in every era of our of our history.

01:03:50.800 And so many of us just ignored those people, you know, and you were able to.

01:03:56.240 I don't know.

01:03:57.060 I mean, again, that's human choice, right?

01:03:58.500 No, I know that.

01:03:59.080 No, no, no, no.

01:03:59.460 But I mean, now it is in all of our faces all of the time.

01:04:03.520 Why?

01:04:04.180 Because of social media.

01:04:05.240 Thank you.

01:04:05.780 Why?

01:04:06.020 Who's choosing to be on social media?

01:04:07.560 No, I know.

01:04:07.640 Right.

01:04:07.880 It's our choice to get involved in this.

01:04:09.980 I know.

01:04:10.160 And it just doesn't.

01:04:11.680 Does it help at all?

01:04:12.900 No, I don't think so.

01:04:14.180 It's this, you know, it's it's just this, no, you know, nonstop outrage machine, you

01:04:19.660 know, this this idea that people are just addicted to it.

01:04:23.060 And it's true. 0.56

01:04:24.580 It really is.

01:04:25.680 It doesn't make you any happier or more informed.

01:04:28.440 For example, people are saying people don't want their kids to be separated from the parents

01:04:33.520 at the border.

01:04:34.300 And that's been something that almost everybody has agreed upon.

01:04:36.880 We talked about the polling of something like 10 percent agreed with it, with the with

01:04:40.320 the policy.

01:04:41.300 And so there's a new CBS poll on about it.

01:04:43.560 And they actually went a little bit further than other polls have gone.

01:04:47.940 Because what what's the question here?

01:04:50.280 There's yes, you can talk about separation of the border all you want.

01:04:53.380 There's another question that needs to follow up with that.

01:04:55.940 And then what?

01:04:57.800 OK, let's say let's say we all agree that the kids should not be separated from parents

01:05:02.360 at the border.

01:05:03.160 And then what?

01:05:04.680 OK, right.

01:05:05.480 So here's they asked that question, decided to figure out.

01:05:07.920 And then what?

01:05:08.460 What do the American people believe?

01:05:09.580 Remember, this is painted as a uniform policy.

01:05:13.480 Everyone thinks Trump is is the worst person in human history because of what he's doing

01:05:17.940 to kids on the border.

01:05:18.920 Here is the actual answer.

01:05:21.120 Now, again, only four percent say they want to separate kids from parents at the border.

01:05:26.020 They want that to be.

01:05:27.200 And then what?

01:05:28.100 And then what is continue that policy?

01:05:30.180 OK, only four percent.

01:05:31.320 So you can see it being painted as a uniform public.

01:05:35.600 However, how does that break down beyond that?

01:05:38.920 Eleven percent say they want to arrest the parents, but keep the children with them in

01:05:43.460 the same detention facility.

01:05:44.640 So detain them together.

01:05:46.560 Four percent say separate them.

01:05:48.620 Eleven percent say detain them together.

01:05:50.620 Twenty one percent say catch and release.

01:05:53.100 You catch this has been the policy for Obama.

01:05:55.600 You release the entire family into the U.S. temporarily and require the report back to a hearing

01:06:00.620 later.

01:06:01.000 We know about 40 percent of those people never return.

01:06:04.940 This is the twenty one percent that the media is playing to.

01:06:08.480 Yes.

01:06:08.980 The media believes catch and release.

01:06:12.220 That is their solution.

01:06:14.400 Just release everybody.

01:06:16.480 That was the Obama policy.

01:06:18.580 That's why they didn't have a problem with any of this, because it was catch and release.

01:06:24.300 Huh.

01:06:25.000 Now, wait a minute.

01:06:26.280 Only twenty one percent agree with that.

01:06:29.400 So what's left?

01:06:31.240 There's a big chunk.

01:06:32.420 It's a chunk bigger than more than double any of the other chunks.

01:06:36.340 And here it is.

01:06:37.340 What do the American people want to do after we stop these separations?

01:06:40.900 Quote, release the entire family back to their home country together. 0.83

01:06:45.380 That's what the American people want.

01:06:49.740 It's not that they want they don't want to hurt families and separate them and all that

01:06:52.880 stuff.

01:06:53.140 They just don't want them illegally crossing the border.

01:06:56.380 Push them back to the other side.

01:06:58.080 They can all go together.

01:06:59.620 That's what the American people want by an incredible margin.

01:07:02.720 Now, the issue, the problem with that is it's not currently legal for them to do that.

01:07:07.360 They have to actually process that claim through the system, which unfortunately only exists

01:07:12.740 with really two of these other options, which is separate and catch and release.

01:07:16.740 The detained together option is a third option that Trump is kind of half trying to create

01:07:21.940 with this executive order, but still is not going to probably hold up in court.

01:07:26.540 And even if it does, it's only 20 days at this point, which at the end of the 20 days

01:07:32.060 turns into catch and release.

01:07:34.200 So the issue here is the thing that we believe is right, which is return people to their home 1.00

01:07:40.320 country, is the thing that is not even available to do as an option right now.

01:07:47.320 One of the reasons why, I don't know, maybe Congress should act instead of making the president

01:07:52.540 do executive orders, instead of having us all go back to a policy that a very small slice

01:07:57.680 of America actually supports.

01:07:59.400 Catch and release.

01:07:59.940 This is what we're told is, it's overwhelmingly positive.

01:08:04.980 It's the thing that everyone wants.

01:08:06.580 All he has to do, he doesn't need an executive order.

01:08:09.440 He doesn't need a law.

01:08:10.380 All he has to do is call Jeff Sessions and tell them, go back to the old policy.

01:08:14.920 That's the old policy.

01:08:16.980 21% of Americans support it.

01:08:19.580 21%.

01:08:20.180 That is completely the opposite of everything we've been told throughout this entire process.

01:08:27.220 So it's not, and we're getting into, because that's something I'm going to talk about here

01:08:33.500 in just a few minutes, is that very poll in my response to Brian Stelter and CNN and reliable

01:08:44.760 sources, I'm going to spend very little time talking about me and why I walked off yesterday.

01:08:55.760 I am going to try to present the things that I tried to present to Brian yesterday that he just

01:09:04.940 didn't seem to understand and then was proving my point every step of the way.

01:09:09.760 Here is the media.

01:09:11.300 They, they are in the 21% catch and release.

01:09:15.880 Just go back to that old policy.

01:09:18.180 Then on top of it, they are fighting this unlike they've ever fought any of it before.

01:09:24.960 And they're coming up with all kinds of excuses.

01:09:27.780 And most of them are bullcrap of why this time it's different.

01:09:32.420 Now, the only reason why this is different is because catch and release is stopping 21%.

01:09:40.640 So it's not only that they're getting the story wrong.

01:09:45.340 It's not only that they don't understand what the American people feel about them and how slanted

01:09:53.680 they always are.

01:09:54.880 They also don't understand that America doesn't want the option that they are selling 21% of

01:10:04.480 America wants that option.

01:10:06.980 And what they're doing is trying to paint the, the remaining 79% as the 4%, the 4% of this

01:10:17.260 is, yeah, I say lock them up and keep them.

01:10:20.080 Well, no, that's not who people are.

01:10:23.420 That's 4% of the nation, four.

01:10:28.260 It's true.

01:10:29.320 It's true.

01:10:29.760 I mean, and look at this, when you look at it this way, there are four options here,

01:10:33.840 three of which are versions of Trump's policy, right?

01:10:37.140 It's separation, which they're all saying is Trump's policy.

01:10:40.540 It's his executive order trying to correct it.

01:10:43.600 And it's his long-term policy, return them back to the country. 0.99

01:10:46.900 If you add up the Trump options, there are all three versions of Trump policies.

01:10:51.200 It's 63 to 21.

01:10:53.420 63% agree with Trump.

01:10:56.120 21% agree with the media.

01:10:58.000 Now, look, people want a border with laws.

01:11:03.740 They want a country that supports the rule of law.

01:11:08.800 That doesn't mean that they hate people, that they want to toss them back to their country

01:11:12.220 because they don't like the color of their skin.

01:11:14.860 They want something logical, a logical process to make sure that people respect the law.

01:11:20.000 And if you can make a logical, cogent case, you can do it.

01:11:23.580 But the only ones you can make that cogent case to are the people who are already in that 21%.

01:11:28.380 You're making the case that, because, see, it's not unconnected from your credibility and also the push for socialism.

01:11:36.040 You cannot have a country that is collapsing economically because it's spending too much.

01:11:41.420 Then push for free health care, universal health care, single payer, free education for all.

01:11:49.300 Plus, anybody who comes across the border gets it too.

01:11:53.080 You can't have both.

01:11:54.960 You can't have socialism and open borders.

01:11:58.040 And the problem is, the media doesn't understand, most of America doesn't want either of those things, let alone both.

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01:13:21.540 Welcome to the program.

01:13:25.320 So glad that you're here.

01:13:27.980 It's even scrolling some notes there in the chosen radio preparation format of orange highlighter.

01:13:38.500 Orange and black highlighter, yeah.

01:13:40.280 This is actually what I had taped to the camera lens yesterday when I was going to talk to Brian Stelter.

01:13:48.200 And we never got to any of these.

01:13:50.420 We never got to these.

01:13:51.080 Those seem like points about the border and how it's...

01:13:54.120 Yeah, and how to, you know, if you want to fix it, here's how you can fix it, you know.

01:13:59.660 If you want to bring us together, here's how we can do that.

01:14:02.340 But we didn't...

01:14:03.160 Didn't get there?

01:14:04.240 No, I didn't get there.

01:14:05.340 It's a little...

01:14:05.920 It's a tad frustrating.

01:14:07.820 Mm-hmm.

01:14:08.320 It's a tad frustrating.

01:14:09.480 Yeah, just a tad.

01:14:11.240 Enough to get me to walk off in the middle of a live interview.

01:14:14.500 In the middle of a live interview, which I don't think I've ever done before.

01:14:18.460 I don't think so either.

01:14:19.160 And I hope to never again.

01:14:19.860 But I just couldn't take it.

01:14:21.360 My head was going to implode.

01:14:24.420 My response to CNN next.

01:14:29.300 Glenn Beck.

01:14:31.100 It's Monday, June 25th.

01:14:33.360 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

01:14:34.920 So yesterday, I was foolish enough to agree to go on CNN and Brian Stelter's reliable sources.

01:14:46.660 I read his, you know, newsletter, usually before I go to bed, and I have seen the increasing, I think, Trump derangement syndrome in that newsletter.

01:15:05.380 And I say this as a guy who actually, it's fading, respects Brian Stelter.

01:15:15.040 And I know he has just taken this as a badge of honor and glory, that I would say it this way.

01:15:23.660 But I really thought Brian might be a guy that would actually be interested in what is going on.

01:15:31.260 And what I was asked to do was to speak about the border of 2014 and also why the press cannot reach the Donald Trump voter.

01:15:41.500 And I was foolish enough to think that they actually wanted a reason.

01:15:46.360 And they wanted a logical explanation and to help them understand. 0.77

01:15:52.400 But the media doesn't get it.

01:15:54.320 And I don't believe they ever will.

01:15:57.160 I don't believe that there is any actual desire to do anything other than to prove that they are right.

01:16:06.400 And I understand this.

01:16:07.800 I've lived that life before.

01:16:10.280 It is it's a life that is not going to end well, just not going to end well for you.

01:16:15.680 They live in this bubble where they don't have to take time to consider other people's point of view, because, you know, in the hallways I've worked at CNN in the hallways, everybody thinks alike.

01:16:32.860 I mean, there might be some subtle differences, but pretty much everybody is on the same page.

01:16:37.720 They are right in this particular case and Trump or the Trump voter is wrong and all they want to do is prove that they are virtuous and they are right.

01:16:50.180 So they're not going to they're not going to change their ways and we should stop looking for it.

01:16:58.000 I am going to stop engaging with them on this because there's no interest.

01:17:03.040 If if there if there were if there were interest, I would suggest that maybe they reach out and have a honest conversation.

01:17:16.800 The average person says about Donald Trump, the average person.

01:17:24.180 I don't necessarily like everything that he is doing.

01:17:27.180 I don't like necessarily his personal behavior.

01:17:29.560 I don't like his attacks on decency.

01:17:31.960 I just don't I don't like all that.

01:17:33.860 And I wish he would stop that.

01:17:35.120 I wish he would stop and put his Twitter away.

01:17:37.060 I really do.

01:17:38.160 I think that's what the average person says. 1.00

01:17:40.060 But they also say it's the economy, stupid. 1.00

01:17:43.560 It's the economy, stupid. 1.00

01:17:45.880 For the first time, somebody is actually is somebody is paying attention to what I am afraid of. 0.99

01:17:52.400 And what I am afraid of is this economy is going to collapse because we are moving in a direction that makes absolutely no sense where everything is being ruled from government.

01:18:04.740 So he is cutting taxes.

01:18:06.580 I think he could have done more, but he did.

01:18:10.400 He cut taxes.

01:18:11.560 He cut taxes.

01:18:12.680 Should he have cut spending?

01:18:14.440 Yes, he should have.

01:18:16.460 But he cut taxes.

01:18:18.000 People felt that he's cutting regulations.

01:18:20.940 People are feeling that.

01:18:22.320 What have you done lately, media?

01:18:25.380 What have you done?

01:18:28.400 He has chosen Israel over Hamas. 0.86

01:18:32.320 And I know that's not popular, especially anyone who works anywhere near Christian on a board. 0.99

01:18:37.160 But the American people will pick Israel over Hamas and her allies at any day of the week, at any time of the day. 0.81

01:18:49.780 The American people have also baked all of this in. 0.74

01:18:53.420 Donald Trump has been a surprise to people like me.

01:18:57.320 He has actually done some things that I never, ever thought that he would do.

01:19:01.220 I thought he would be the typical New York liberal, like most people in the media.

01:19:07.160 As it turns out, no.

01:19:08.820 Look at his stance on Israel.

01:19:09.960 Look at his stance on taxes.

01:19:12.080 We have baked in the things before people even elected him.

01:19:18.980 Come on.

01:19:20.140 Rafael Cruz also helped kill JFK?

01:19:24.360 Come on.

01:19:25.920 Now, I found that really offensive and something that the future president of the United States shouldn't believe.

01:19:32.840 I don't even think he believed it.

01:19:34.980 So should he have said it?

01:19:36.240 No.

01:19:37.160 Did he?

01:19:38.100 Yes.

01:19:38.700 Did the American people see that and roll their eyes and go, stop it?

01:19:42.920 He's just saying this just to whatever the reason is.

01:19:46.000 But they've baked all of that in.

01:19:48.360 They've even baked Stormy Daniels in.

01:19:51.140 They don't care.

01:19:52.040 They don't care.

01:19:53.300 Just like you baked in the same trait from Bill Clinton and you didn't care.

01:20:00.320 Well, I know.

01:20:01.320 But you said it was such.

01:20:02.980 Yeah, I know.

01:20:03.940 I know.

01:20:04.280 It's crazy, isn't it?

01:20:05.180 It's crazy how everybody is flipping sides depending on who it hurts. 0.79

01:20:10.940 See, that's the hypocrisy thing.

01:20:14.480 And we can continue to charge hypocrisy back and forth all day long.

01:20:19.380 But it's not going to change anything because nobody is willing to stop and say, wait a minute.

01:20:24.540 Is that true about me?

01:20:26.140 Is that true?

01:20:26.880 You don't actually want to know.

01:20:30.200 That's what the premise was.

01:20:32.420 Hey, we can't get this.

01:20:34.040 We can't get people to listen to us.

01:20:36.360 Well, have you stopped and said, is any of the stuff that they say about you, is that true?

01:20:41.100 Well, let me give you a couple of examples.

01:20:44.320 Do you think that if somebody would have come out on the Republican side and said the things that Maxine Waters said, you would be treating it the same way that you're treating it today?

01:20:59.580 Yes, I know.

01:21:00.280 You're covering it and it's cute little coverage.

01:21:02.340 And perhaps it's even the kind of level of coverage that it deserves.

01:21:09.080 But is it the same amount of coverage that you would have given it had it been somebody in the GOP that said the very same thing?

01:21:18.600 Remember the weeks of America?

01:21:23.540 We're just telling you like it is.

01:21:25.520 I mean, you can't just throw around phrases like targeting a district.

01:21:29.580 It's dangerous.

01:21:30.460 You can't just say, well, Glenn Beck is a conspiracy theorist for for debunking the FEMA camps, by the way, for for even talking about FEMA camps.

01:21:43.440 You can't do that.

01:21:44.960 And then have people on saying that this is a concentration camp.

01:21:50.420 Where's the ADL on that one?

01:21:53.480 You see, this is the frustration that you want to dismiss.

01:21:57.260 But half of the population cannot get past it.

01:22:02.180 Just like so many on your side cannot get past me.

01:22:06.800 But I've at least taken the step.

01:22:09.080 That's up to you.

01:22:10.020 I've at least taken the step and said, wow, I've learned an awful lot.

01:22:14.660 I see what I did.

01:22:15.620 I see what I said.

01:22:16.920 I see how you understood it.

01:22:19.000 You may not buy my explanation of why I felt this way.

01:22:22.980 But you cannot tell me that what Don Lemon did is any different than what I did when Don Lemon said, you know, I think he's a racist.

01:22:33.300 What Don was feeling was this sense of something's not quite right.

01:22:41.720 And what Don was feeling was not racism.

01:22:44.780 It might be manifested in racism, you know, by people who are like in the Nazi party.

01:22:51.540 But that's not what Donald Trump or his supporters are actually feeling.

01:22:55.140 What they're feeling is the loss of their heritage, the loss of something that and you can say, well, what heritage, the white heritage?

01:23:05.680 Yes, you know, the one that all of the professors are now teaching everyone that they should destroy, stand up against and has no value.

01:23:14.940 They're feeling the sense of that loss.

01:23:17.860 And it has nothing to do with race.

01:23:19.440 It has everything to do with multiculturalism.

01:23:22.160 But Don expressed it as he's a racist.

01:23:25.720 I don't think that's actually he may think that's what he meant.

01:23:29.580 Just like when I said, I think President Obama is a racist and immediately said, well, no way.

01:23:37.020 That's not quite the right word. 0.99

01:23:38.880 But he has a hatred for the white culture. 0.95

01:23:43.040 Wait a minute.

01:23:44.640 I wasn't actually seeing racism. 0.99

01:23:47.040 What I was seeing was this post-modernist bullcrap that is now being shoved down everybody's throat in universities where they're saying that it is the evil white Western culture that is the cause of all problems. 0.99

01:24:02.600 You could call it racist or you could just call it post-modernist bullcrap. 0.99

01:24:07.960 But that's what I was sensing.

01:24:09.880 I believe that it is the loss of that that Donald Trump represents to people.

01:24:17.580 That made Lemon say he's a racist.

01:24:21.940 Now, how is he a hero and I'm a villain other than it was your guy?

01:24:27.220 You see, this is what you're missing.

01:24:32.660 This is what you're missing.

01:24:34.720 How can the the Democratic Socialists shut down several facilities for ICE?

01:24:43.140 Shut them down.

01:24:44.940 Can you imagine had the Tea Party surrounded a government agency and violently shut it down?

01:24:51.540 Can you imagine if a government official were hurt, were hurt protecting an old woman at a government facility when a mob attacked?

01:25:04.120 Can you imagine the weeks you would have spent on that?

01:25:07.840 Because I can.

01:25:09.520 So can half of America because we saw you do it.

01:25:12.880 But when we didn't do those things, when you when when Nancy Pelosi locked arms and intentionally tried to antagonize and provoke a crowd that was against universal health care, 0.64

01:25:28.140 when she locked arms and intentionally went into that crowd hoping for something to happen and it didn't, you treated it like it did.

01:25:38.000 Now, let me get to the the border.

01:25:47.640 We agree on almost everything.

01:25:51.620 But you don't see it that way.

01:25:55.760 First of all, I can't take things like this.

01:26:01.120 Play the clip from yesterday and Brian Stelter.

01:26:04.200 I remember you going to the border in 2014.

01:26:06.580 And Obama's policy might have been ugly.

01:26:08.600 Is there this kind of coverage now?

01:26:10.240 Was there was there this kind of coverage?

01:26:13.600 When you had weren't as many kids in jail.

01:26:15.540 Oh, stop it.

01:26:16.940 Stop what?

01:26:17.680 There were not as many kids in jail.

01:26:20.980 You're telling me.

01:26:22.120 So it's the number.

01:26:23.260 So what's the number, Brian, that we care about putting kids in cages?

01:26:26.380 What's the number that we start caring about when we're separating?

01:26:28.940 We care.

01:26:29.440 And the more there are, the more we care.

01:26:31.160 What's the number?

01:26:32.580 OK, so we care the more they are.

01:26:34.620 OK, well, let me just give you, Brian, the Newsweek headline.

01:26:40.720 Obama held more than double the number of children than the Trump White House.

01:26:47.260 So you should care twice as much in your time machine.

01:26:52.220 Twice as many kids are in jail under Obama.

01:26:59.280 Now, if you can't get that fact right, how is anyone else supposed to have that fact right?

01:27:05.620 If the press itself and the journalist that is trying to hold people's feet to the fire, if you can't get it right.

01:27:12.800 How's the average American supposed to?

01:27:19.000 And whatever happened to the idea, if it just saves one child's life, because that's the thing we always get, you know, especially with guns, if it just saves one child.

01:27:27.900 And by the way, speaking of guns, you know, since 2012, 2013, since then, there's been the average of 6.8 people killed in school shootings.

01:27:41.920 6.8 every year.

01:27:44.100 People killed by members of MS-13, 29.5.

01:27:52.560 Where's your MS-13 town hall?

01:27:55.420 Oh, that's right.

01:27:56.300 They're not really a problem.

01:27:58.120 And we shouldn't even pay attention to MS-13 people coming across the border.

01:28:03.980 That's right.

01:28:05.060 It's all about the numbers, though, right?

01:28:06.880 Even though that's four times the size of the school shootings.

01:28:11.180 Here's the thing.

01:28:15.300 The American people don't trust you.

01:28:17.720 They haven't trusted you for a very long time.

01:28:20.300 And you are still so arrogant because you're surrounded by like-minded people.

01:28:25.900 And you're all in a giant feedback loop.

01:28:29.340 Quite honestly, it's a little like living in Texas.

01:28:31.160 I've become a little lazier living in Texas because there's so many people that think like I do.

01:28:37.600 You're not challenged.

01:28:38.560 Hey, Brian, why don't you come on down here, work here?

01:28:42.380 Why don't you get CNN to start moving out in the rest of the country and see how they push you back?

01:28:48.860 They'll do it kindly, not the way, well, the way that Maxine Waters is suggesting or the way my family was treated when we lived in New York.

01:28:57.080 48% of the American people believe that these kids should be released with their family back to their homeland.

01:29:14.440 48%.

01:29:15.080 Only 21% believe that you believe.

01:29:20.020 Same thing you believe.

01:29:21.360 And I know you're going to say, who says what I believe?

01:29:23.780 Uh-huh, yeah, stop.

01:29:25.620 Stop.

01:29:27.860 Only 21% believe that it should just be open borders and we should just let everybody go.

01:29:35.140 The majority of us, however, all but 4% agree, including the president and the first lady,

01:29:43.520 whom you treated horribly last week as a media.

01:29:50.240 Only 4% say that they should be held away from their parents.

01:29:54.520 So why are we arguing?

01:29:56.520 We're arguing for the same reasons you don't want to have a private conversation.

01:30:01.840 When I've suggested to not only you, but almost every member of the press, you really want to understand, please don't make the same mistakes I made.

01:30:11.480 I understand it.

01:30:13.080 I've lived it.

01:30:14.160 I see it.

01:30:15.280 And I understand the right.

01:30:17.560 And I understand why you're pissing them off.

01:30:20.100 And if you really want to actually understand so you can help the country, not further divide it, we should have a talk.

01:30:30.300 But nobody's interested in that because a private conversation has no ratings, no clicks, no outrage.

01:30:37.320 There's no left or right box.

01:30:39.600 You actually have to be interested in seeking knowledge.

01:30:42.100 And by the way, I guess the only thing left that you and the Washington Post, strangely exposing you as somebody was waiting, just lying in wait with your, what did they call it?

01:31:06.040 Sly grin.

01:31:07.960 What a bizarre thing to print.

01:31:10.060 But that's, of course, the Washington Post.

01:31:13.600 But there are actual solutions.

01:31:17.960 We'll get to those.

01:31:19.540 But I do want to address quickly why I just thought that it was ridiculous to ask me a question that was only written by one person who has claimed my company has been dying for about four years now.

01:31:34.960 When, let me just give you the headlines, CNN laid off 50 people in February.

01:31:39.000 Then the next one, also 50 people in 2016.

01:31:42.540 Turner lays off 30 in February.

01:31:44.260 Time Inc lays off 1,200 starting in March.

01:31:47.280 Boston Herald, 70 people this year.

01:31:49.720 Sean Puffy Combs, Revolt Media lays off one third of its staff in May.

01:31:53.860 Univision facing catastrophic cuts.

01:31:56.680 170 laid off.

01:31:58.500 Vogue, third round of layoffs in three years.

01:32:02.060 Vice lays off about 80 people since December.

01:32:05.020 After years of devastating layoffs, 30 or more.

01:32:07.180 I could go on.

01:32:08.460 I've got page after page.

01:32:09.860 The point is, it's not a story.

01:32:12.140 It's not a story.

01:32:13.280 It's called doing business in the media today.

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01:33:33.740 So I want to talk a little bit about what we should be talking about.

01:33:41.720 What we should be talking about is a we agree.

01:33:46.140 We agree on the border.

01:33:47.660 Most of us agree.

01:33:49.060 So now what do we do about it?

01:33:51.200 And there's there's been three options that are been provided.

01:33:54.480 One, detain the children with the parents to detain the parents, but release the children or three, release all of them.

01:34:01.380 That's no, no, that's no.

01:34:03.740 But those are not our three options.

01:34:07.180 This is there are other options and the other options are very clear and very easy.

01:34:14.420 Now, they do require a rule of law, but we used to be a rule of law kind of nation.

01:34:21.660 What do you say we return to that?

01:34:23.300 I'll explain when we come back.

01:34:24.600 You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.

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01:34:48.540 We were talking a minute ago about the three things that we're by the way.

01:34:55.240 Welcome to Pat Gray from Pat Gray unleashed.

01:34:57.360 Pat Gray is joining us.

01:34:58.640 They're talking about three different possibilities that we have.

01:35:03.280 We can detain the children at the border with their parents. 0.93

01:35:05.840 Well, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals have already said that that was unconstitutional.

01:35:11.520 So you can't do that.

01:35:13.520 And we don't do that.

01:35:14.460 If you break the law, we don't take your kids and put them in jail with you.

01:35:18.700 Kids would be in danger in the lockup.

01:35:20.980 It causes all kinds of different problems.

01:35:24.060 Second option is detain the parents, but release the children.

01:35:27.940 Well, that's one reason why we're into this situation in the first place.

01:35:32.400 Again, because that goes into human trafficking. 0.97

01:35:36.400 The drug cartels know this.

01:35:38.200 The Obama administration knew this.

01:35:40.680 Fifteen-year-olds were being held because they were actually trafficking kids because they knew if they brought them across the border,

01:35:48.440 the drug cartels knew that they would be released and they would arrive at their destination ready to be at the, you know, a willing slave,

01:35:59.200 either at the sex shops or the egg farms, believe it or not.

01:36:04.300 So that one doesn't work either.

01:36:06.640 The third one is release.

01:36:09.220 Oh, we can just release everybody.

01:36:12.240 Well, that would be an open border.

01:36:14.080 Why even catch them if you're just going to release them?

01:36:16.420 That's an open border.

01:36:17.560 That has all kinds of problems as well.

01:36:20.320 So why don't we talk about a real solution?

01:36:24.120 That's really easy.

01:36:25.380 We catch everybody.

01:36:27.140 We hold you as a family, but we need to hold you as a family if you give us the information,

01:36:34.500 if you have proof that these are your children.

01:36:36.880 Otherwise, you are going to have to provide a DNA sample because we can't just assume these are your children.

01:36:43.540 We wouldn't do that at an airport.

01:36:46.080 When you're crossing a border, we don't just say, oh, you're getting on a plane to go over to Europe.

01:36:51.800 Oh, okay.

01:36:52.500 That's your kid.

01:36:53.600 No ID necessary.

01:36:55.120 We don't do that.

01:36:57.040 We would never expect that.

01:36:59.020 We would all rise up in arms if anybody started to do that with our children.

01:37:03.640 So we don't do that.

01:37:06.380 So what do we do?

01:37:08.460 Well, we hire more judges.

01:37:10.700 Kind of like that old show, Night Court.

01:37:13.140 We get a magician to sit on the court.

01:37:16.280 And we get about 400 of them.

01:37:19.080 And they're all across the border.

01:37:20.600 And when you come across the border, day or night, you go to court.

01:37:24.300 You make your case.

01:37:26.020 If the court feels that, A, these are your children.

01:37:29.620 B, you do have a reason for asylum.

01:37:34.040 Then we can delay it and say, okay, you live over in this shelter while we look for real asylum.

01:37:39.720 You will have a case that is heard in the next 21 days.

01:37:44.260 If not, you go back home immediately.

01:37:48.020 We don't hold you.

01:37:49.460 You go to court.

01:37:50.540 We hear your case.

01:37:51.360 We turn you around.

01:37:52.560 And then we also tell all of the nations, if you are needing American refugee status, go to your local consulate.

01:38:02.260 Because that's the way it works.

01:38:05.280 Don't make a dangerous trip.

01:38:07.560 Go to your consulate.

01:38:09.640 Amen.

01:38:10.900 End of story.

01:38:12.140 Let's move on.

01:38:13.160 It drives me nuts that there is no personal responsibility on the part of the people bringing their kids here when they know this is a distinct possibility.

01:38:24.800 This is going to happen to you, that you could be separated from your children.

01:38:28.380 Is there no responsibility on the part of the parents?

01:38:31.780 None?

01:38:32.700 I just can't accept that.

01:38:34.560 I just can't accept that personal responsibility.

01:38:37.420 The parents of these children carry no responsibility for their welfare and what they're doing here.

01:38:42.640 That is breaking into our country.

01:38:44.700 This is why the nation is at each other's throats.

01:38:48.400 Because one side is talking all justice.

01:38:53.000 And one side is talking all mercy.

01:38:55.180 Except we're not.

01:38:56.340 I think we mix it pretty well.

01:38:58.360 No, hold on just a second.

01:38:59.480 No, I'm just saying the two sides that are being heard.

01:39:02.180 Yes.

01:39:02.660 That's true.

01:39:03.180 I think there's a majority of people who are like, look, guys, we don't want to do that.

01:39:08.340 But we also don't want to do that.

01:39:09.820 Yeah.

01:39:09.980 So we have to balance justice and mercy.

01:39:12.640 We have to know what's on the border.

01:39:14.080 But we also have to be merciful to people.

01:39:16.480 But we're not so merciful that we're blind, that they have no personal responsibility,

01:39:21.360 and that we're just going to accept whatever they say.

01:39:24.760 You can't.

01:39:26.040 You can't.

01:39:26.860 It's national suicide if we do.

01:39:30.220 It just can't be done.

01:39:31.360 Do you think there's an element here?

01:39:33.300 Because I agree with the general prosecution idea, right?

01:39:36.880 Someone crosses the border illegally, they should be prosecuted,

01:39:39.380 not just released it to the country.

01:39:40.860 Hey, show up in a hearing that we know you're not going to make.

01:39:43.140 Right. 0.99

01:39:43.300 That's a silly, silly way of handling it. 0.94

01:39:45.720 Would this have worked better, however, in a similar way to the Supreme Court case 0.88

01:39:51.620 that's going to be announced and decided very soon here when it comes to the travel ban,

01:39:59.340 if they would have had a process in which they maybe led this with a month or two of high publicity

01:40:05.860 in going, I'm saying going on Guatemalan television every week.

01:40:09.900 I agree.

01:40:10.480 And saying, by the way, starting this date, there is going to be no more of this nonsense.

01:40:17.120 Every one of you will be prosecuted.

01:40:18.680 If you come with your kid, you will be separated from your kid. 1.00

01:40:23.200 And that should have been a big deal all across the country with a big buildup,

01:40:26.460 with a buildup of judges, with a buildup of facilities, knowing this would happen.

01:40:30.680 Instead, it was a policy change made kind of behind the scenes.

01:40:35.440 Then when it started happening, thousands built up before the American public really knew about it.

01:40:40.100 All the pictures came out and it gave an emotional reaction.

01:40:43.020 And nobody cared about this at all.

01:40:45.080 Before Trump.

01:40:46.240 No, nobody cared.

01:40:47.320 No, that's not true.

01:40:48.800 We covered it.

01:40:50.120 No, that's not true.

01:40:51.540 CNN told me yesterday, we covered it.

01:40:54.220 Yeah.

01:40:54.700 Well, you understand, Glenn.

01:40:55.980 The more kids in jail, the more they care.

01:40:57.780 No, again, as Newsweek verified, double the amount of kids under Obama.

01:41:04.740 How do you get these disparate stories from differing media sources?

01:41:10.560 From some media sources, it's only a sprinkling under Obama.

01:41:13.940 It happened, but only a couple of times.

01:41:16.540 Nothing to really worry about.

01:41:18.420 And then Newsweek comes out with, it happened double the amount of times?

01:41:22.660 Yeah, we should point out that's not even really fair, that number double.

01:41:25.640 The double is, it happened, 25,000 kids were in jail under the Obama administration.

01:41:31.560 It's about 12,000 under Trump.

01:41:33.120 That's where the double comes from.

01:41:34.640 But in reality, what we're talking about here is only 2,000 of the 12,000.

01:41:40.380 Like, there was 10,000 in prison, some of them in jail, some of them from before.

01:41:45.900 But it was a 10,000 number coming into this policy change.

01:41:49.880 It went from 10,000 to 12,000.

01:41:51.160 That's what everyone's freaking out about, is 10,000 to 12,000.

01:41:53.480 That difference of 2,000.

01:41:55.300 But Obama had 25,000.

01:41:58.240 Right?

01:41:58.700 Like, I mean, in reality, it's almost 12 times as much, if you want to look at it that way.

01:42:02.740 And one of the reasons that anybody's even talking about this is because for the first time,

01:42:09.180 we're checking up on the kids.

01:42:10.720 Yeah.

01:42:10.860 We're trying to find out what happened to them.

01:42:13.560 Where are they?

01:42:14.680 Yeah.

01:42:14.880 Now we're going to start into, we can't find them.

01:42:18.100 What a surprise.

01:42:18.980 I know.

01:42:19.480 What a surprise.

01:42:20.160 Illegal families with illegal babies that don't want to be found?

01:42:23.960 Remember when we were there and we were talking to border agents who could not talk to us on the air

01:42:29.580 because they were afraid they were going to get fired by the administration.

01:42:33.020 And they talked to us and they said, Glenn, we're just putting these kids on buses.

01:42:38.060 You remember this?

01:42:38.880 Yeah.

01:42:39.020 We're just giving them a bus ticket.

01:42:40.980 And that was what, 2014?

01:42:42.260 Yes.

01:42:42.780 Yeah.

01:42:43.020 They were just giving them a bus ticket and saying, you go to Baltimore.

01:42:46.660 Yeah.

01:42:46.900 Or wherever your distant relative lives.

01:42:48.900 Wherever that is.

01:42:50.400 Yeah.

01:42:50.780 Sending them across the country. 0.56

01:42:52.360 That's insane.

01:42:53.780 That's insane.

01:42:55.540 And now they're going to make a big deal out of, do you realize that we have lost?

01:43:00.940 Yeah.

01:43:01.260 Do you realize that we were telling you in 2014 that they're just giving kids bus tickets?

01:43:08.400 I'm supposed to be in Baltimore.

01:43:10.000 Okay, here's your bus ticket.

01:43:12.060 Good luck, kid.

01:43:13.300 Are you kidding me?

01:43:16.340 Do you know how many kids have been?

01:43:18.920 I don't even want to imagine the number of kids that have been trafficked because of this policy.

01:43:28.260 See, this is why a rule of law matters.

01:43:32.220 Everything that everybody is talking about now is just a band-aid.

01:43:35.860 It's fixed if you fix the border.

01:43:38.040 The most humane thing you can do is shut the border down and make the door wider for legal immigration. 0.83

01:43:50.460 So you say, oh, you want to come here?

01:43:52.940 You want to work?

01:43:53.980 Okay.

01:43:54.900 Let's find out about you.

01:43:56.380 Okay.

01:43:56.960 Good.

01:43:57.560 Come on in and work.

01:43:59.340 Yeah.

01:43:59.440 That's the most compassionate thing because it allows people to not live in the shadows.

01:44:05.360 And if Democrats were honest, they would agree to that.

01:44:09.840 And we would sit down and have that discussion.

01:44:11.780 They used to always agree with that.

01:44:13.040 Yeah, always.

01:44:13.560 And, of course, we want the border secured.

01:44:18.100 And, of course, we want a humane policy.

01:44:20.520 And we want to allow legal immigrants to come into the country.

01:44:24.300 The thing is, we already allow a million a year legally.

01:44:28.420 By far the most in human history.

01:44:31.180 No country has ever allowed one million people to immigrate in a year legally.

01:44:38.900 So I guess what we should do is sit down and discuss what is the limit?

01:44:45.560 Is there a limit?

01:44:46.780 What should that number be?

01:44:48.420 If we shut down the border.

01:44:49.740 These are the kind of conversations I would like to have.

01:44:51.740 But these are not the conversations that anybody in the media wants to have.

01:44:54.880 They won't.

01:44:55.200 No, because what they're doing is.

01:44:56.900 Because they should just be open to the media.

01:44:58.580 They don't want to cover.

01:45:00.760 The thing that people would watch or listen to more than anything else, I think,

01:45:05.680 are these deeper conversations based on that.

01:45:10.140 Without the politicians and the media spin.

01:45:13.380 Just people who were really seeking.

01:45:17.100 If we were going to redesign this, how would we redesign it?

01:45:20.180 If we were really going to do it, how would we do it?

01:45:23.320 And here's the complex part of this.

01:45:25.320 That's an honest question, though.

01:45:25.840 It is.

01:45:26.680 Nobody wants to ask it.

01:45:27.280 Nobody wants to ask an honest question.

01:45:29.240 Well, because we all know that this has absolutely nothing to do with the children

01:45:32.880 for almost everybody talking about it.

01:45:34.540 It has to do with being able to score points against Trump or for Trump.

01:45:38.920 That's really, I mean, you know, for everyone that beats up on Donald Trump

01:45:42.380 for having too big of an ego, why wouldn't he?

01:45:44.740 Everyone obsesses about everything he does.

01:45:46.980 Of course he has.

01:45:48.080 I would have a big ego, too, if people cared about me that much.

01:45:51.500 It throws everyone into a point where they abandon everything they've done

01:45:55.920 in their entire lives.

01:45:56.920 They all go on television and lie about it constantly.

01:45:59.420 Unfortunately, we have elected officials advocating for harassing women in restaurants 1.00

01:46:06.040 because of this guy.

01:46:07.940 I would have a huge ego myself.

01:46:10.380 I mean, everyone cares.

01:46:11.660 It seems to be the only thing anyone on television cares about.

01:46:15.860 It is.

01:46:16.360 It's certainly the only thing CNN cares about.

01:46:18.140 Yeah.

01:46:18.280 The only thing they ever talk about is Donald Trump.

01:46:22.060 And he's one man.

01:46:23.180 He's one man.

01:46:24.280 Wait.

01:46:24.860 So right now, they would be screaming, really?

01:46:27.740 Where were you with Barack Obama?

01:46:29.840 I can easily say, I know.

01:46:32.540 Wasn't that a waste of time?

01:46:36.660 Wasn't that a waste of time?

01:46:38.420 We went a year without even trying to mention his name, though.

01:46:41.320 We did.

01:46:41.860 We did.

01:46:42.300 We did recognize it in ourselves.

01:46:43.900 In ourselves.

01:46:44.140 And we wanted to stop doing it.

01:46:46.180 Right.

01:46:46.480 And we had a...

01:46:47.540 They won't recognize it.

01:46:48.720 No, they won't.

01:46:49.740 They won't.

01:46:50.500 We had a penalty board every time we said his name.

01:46:52.640 It cost me $3,000 that year because I said his name.

01:46:56.500 It really did.

01:46:57.680 It really did.

01:46:58.420 It really did.

01:46:58.780 Yeah.

01:46:59.020 It really did.

01:47:00.020 Yeah.

01:47:00.580 But they won't recognize that.

01:47:02.440 They can't get past it.

01:47:04.220 And I can understand it.

01:47:06.360 It feels as though you have to respond to absolutely everything.

01:47:10.780 But by doing that, what you're doing is you are forcing everyone into that camp because

01:47:18.880 they're saying they don't want to listen to conversations with real people that are reasonable

01:47:24.300 because that takes them away from Donald Trump.

01:47:27.660 And so eventually people are like, I don't think this guy needs help. 0.94

01:47:31.600 This guy's a bully in his own right.

01:47:33.780 I don't think he needs our help. 0.99

01:47:35.260 But I'm actually starting to feel sorry for him because you guys are crazy. 0.97

01:47:40.880 That is a real problem. 0.93

01:47:43.240 Pat, thanks so much.

01:47:44.320 Welcome back.

01:47:44.760 What happened to your big long vacation?

01:47:47.560 Wow.

01:47:49.420 Wow.

01:47:50.380 Glenn, thanks.

01:47:52.060 I came here to talk about my show.

01:47:55.320 And you're playing this game?

01:47:58.100 Wow.

01:47:58.540 Okay.

01:47:58.960 Oh, my God.

01:47:59.340 Have a good day.

01:48:00.380 Oh, no.

01:48:00.920 He's walked out.

01:48:01.860 He's walked out of the interview.

01:48:03.200 Wow.

01:48:03.800 How unprofessional.

01:48:05.580 I mean, I think it was a perfectly reasonable question.

01:48:09.760 Find out.

01:48:10.640 He'll have his response in about eight minutes.

01:48:13.920 We should just all walk out at the end of our shows in dramatic fashion and have the

01:48:17.220 response start the next show.

01:48:18.460 We'll have an endless cycle of news.

01:48:20.000 It would be really good.

01:48:21.060 I could be really good.

01:48:22.180 Here's Goldline.

01:48:24.960 Goldline has a brand new product from the Royal Canadian Mint.

01:48:30.560 They are these.

01:48:31.720 Look at this.

01:48:32.900 I've got to put my glasses on.

01:48:34.520 So these are...

01:48:35.680 Remember the gold that we did?

01:48:36.700 The gold...

01:48:37.600 Little gold...

01:48:39.020 Pieces?

01:48:39.940 Pieces?

01:48:40.240 Like in a credit card format?

01:48:41.180 Yeah.

01:48:41.420 Yeah.

01:48:41.620 So this is in silver, because silver, it's...

01:48:47.820 We should point out, when you buy this, you will not be able to open it.

01:48:50.380 Okay, no.

01:48:50.820 So there it is.

01:48:51.500 Okay.

01:48:51.740 So this is like...

01:48:53.020 This is a bunch of silver in ounces.

01:48:56.780 And what you do is you take it and you can break it apart.

01:49:02.320 Oh, my gosh.

01:49:02.840 And now I have...

01:49:05.320 That's a quarter ounce of silver.

01:49:07.880 This is a full ounce of silver on this one.

01:49:13.900 There's a full ounce.

01:49:15.540 There's a half ounce.

01:49:17.560 So if things ever go crazy, you have a Canadian... 0.96

01:49:22.980 Like, basically, they're Canadian coins, except they're all put together.

01:49:26.920 And it's a very thin bar of silver.

01:49:30.700 This is fantastic.

01:49:33.020 If you were looking for something that, you know, you could use in case things went

01:49:38.100 absolutely insane...

01:49:41.220 Actually, this is a quarter ounce.

01:49:43.380 I had the ounces wrong, but...

01:49:45.500 You can get this now at Goldline, and they are great.

01:49:48.520 You keep them.

01:49:49.040 You give them to your kids.

01:49:49.980 You keep them for yourself in case things really go nuts.

01:49:53.600 All you have to do is go to Goldline and ask them about this.

01:49:57.440 Each bar, legal tender.

01:49:59.160 It's called Maple Flex.

01:50:00.460 It's only available from Goldline.

01:50:04.600 It's really great.

01:50:05.800 Do it now.

01:50:06.540 Goldline.

01:50:07.460 Talk to them about their unique price shield program, etc., etc.

01:50:11.660 But this is Maple Flex.

01:50:13.780 Call them now at 866-GOLDLINE, 1-866-GOLDLINE, or goldline.com.

01:50:20.060 Welcome to the program.

01:50:26.040 I'm glad you're here.

01:50:27.040 Tomorrow, I want to talk to you a little bit about what's happening in North Korea.

01:50:30.760 Anti-American posters are now disappearing from all over North Korea.

01:50:37.120 And these were everywhere.

01:50:39.680 The propaganda has been, you know, 60 years in the making.

01:50:44.780 What they believe about America is absolutely amazing.

01:50:49.220 But for some reason, it's all disappearing.

01:50:51.620 That's a good sign.

01:50:52.980 It's a good sign, for sure.

01:50:54.120 I mean, it's been around forever.

01:50:56.540 Maybe this is going to turn into something real.

01:50:58.860 I mean, there's still a very long road ahead that it does, you know, to see if it does.

01:51:03.560 No, there is no reality anymore, Stu.

01:51:07.080 Nothing is real.

01:51:08.160 There is no truth.

01:51:09.540 Yeah, we're in a post-fact era.

01:51:10.960 There is no reality.

01:51:12.020 It's actually post-modern era would be a better way to describe it.

01:51:15.680 Back, Mercury.

The Glenn Beck Program - June 25, 2018

'Back To The Dark Ages'？ - 6⧸25⧸18

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