Beachgoers Are NOT Mass Murderers | 5⧸26⧸20
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Summary
Pat and Stu talk about the dangers of going to the beach on Memorial Day weekend and why you should try to get out and enjoy the sun. Plus, a new virus that could be spread to the public if you go out in public.
Transcript
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It's nice to see that we've got some citizens who've appointed themselves the overseers of health and safety in this country.
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And are shaming anybody who goes outside and does things that they don't believe they should be doing.
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Like, if you go to the beach, then you're essentially a mass murderer.
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It's interesting to see all of the hatred for people who are going out and sick and tired of being shut in and shut down and locked in and locked down.
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Yeah, you know, conducting themselves in a way that is consistent with, you know, the most, the safest activities you can do when it comes to this virus.
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The, I mean, there's one study, I think it's from China, where they had over 7,000 cases that they studied.
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The chances of it happening outside are very, very low.
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It's the type of thing that the government, from the beginning, should have been encouraging people to do.
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You know, try to stay a little bit away from each other.
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Maybe don't make out with random strangers on the street.
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Oh, well, you're really limiting what I like to do there, then.
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I know that you're a big, you're a big into this.
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Well, we'll try to get, we'll try to see if we can figure out exactly what would work for you and your lifestyle.
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If you're going to make out with someone, try to do it outside.
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And it seems to be one of the best solutions to this when it comes to transmitting the virus.
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Now, there's some pictures you saw probably over the weekend.
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They were all jammed together in that pool party, which, by the way, looked horrible to me for reasons completely unrelated to COVID-19.
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I don't want to be that close to that many people ever in my life.
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This isn't something that has nothing to do with the virus.
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There's a lot of guys with their shirts off and tiny bathing suits, and they're all cramped in together.
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Is that something that could lead to an outbreak?
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I mean, like, we all know, even in the peak of this thing, they were playing NBA and NHL games, and they were doing all of these things in these giant gatherings.
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And as far as I know, there are no known, you know, major super spreader events that came out of that stuff.
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It does not mean that every time a lot of people get together, there's going to be mass spread, but it does happen in those situations.
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You know, there's a funeral in Georgia, famously.
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You know, it looks like there was a decent amount of spread from Mardi Gras.
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There was an election in Wisconsin where they went to the polling booth, and that didn't spread it.
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No, it doesn't seem like there's anything there.
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In that, if you look at the footage of that, right, no one's standing within 10 feet of each other.
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And if we were going to go and follow those sorts of rules, there's almost no chance of this becoming a big problem.
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There is the idea that, you know, the Ozarks was not what that voting situation was.
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First of all, it was in Wisconsin, so it's probably cold.
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Because in my mind, it's always cold in Wisconsin, whether it's July or February.
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You're probably not going to get into a beach situation where everyone's, you know, in bathing suits next to each other.
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But, like, if you do, if you take basic precautions, right, like the things that you would have done for previous illness if you were being careful about it.
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Like, if you knew someone was sick at work, you know, someone comes in and they're just sick, they're just coughing.
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You say, okay, well, number one, maybe you should go home.
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Number two, let's just stay a little bit away from each other, right?
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Let's just, like, kind of back off and, like, I'm going to stay over here just so I don't want to get sick.
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Those things that you always would do when you assumed someone was sick, probably a good idea to do now, right?
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And if you do those things, there's almost no chance that it's going to be, we're going to have a massive re, you know, the flaring up is going to occur again.
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Unless something dramatic happens with mutation or whatever.
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But this is the thing, this weekend, it was all about shaming people who went to the beach, which is, again, one of the safer activities you can engage in.
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Then there was the instance in Staten Island, New York, where they literally chased a woman out of a grocery store because she wasn't wearing a mask.
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I mean, this is, you can't even understand what they're saying for all the bleeps because they're swearing so much at her, yelling the F word at her, calling her all kinds of names.
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But here's what happened at that grocery store.
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And in one case, the guy's pulling down his mask so he can yell at her louder.
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You know, I don't, I've been to a lot of grocery stores.
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If you look at me, you know, I'm around food a lot and I haven't seen anything like this.
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And that's the, that was in Staten Island, you know, New York city, part of New York city.
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So it's maybe they're a little bit more sensitive.
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My understanding too, is that is a rule of the store.
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Now, as a person who, you know, believes in the, you know, the, I, the power of a private
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You can institute that rule in your business if you want to.
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And you should leave if you don't want to deal with it because they can make a rule
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of, you know, that's, that's something that a private business can do.
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Although I don't necessarily agree with it, you know, it is something that they should
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That has nothing to do with what, what that clip is though.
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In front of the frozen Brussels sprouts is a little over the top.
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People shouldn't be acting that way for really any reason.
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And, you know, this is something where people are, we obviously don't know everything about
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We obviously don't know what's going, you know, what's right and what's wrong going forward.
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We're going to do our best and the fact that you go in there and you are going to get screamed
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at by a bunch of annoying, you know, do-gooders is really an irritating process.
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And you're doing something that in the beginning, the CDC said the masks weren't going to help.
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They, in the beginning of this thing, if you, if you remember what the CDC guidelines were,
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they said the masks really don't do any good on this.
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Scientists don't really know exactly what they're doing right now.
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We keep hearing, okay, the virus spreads in the air.
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And look, at some level, this is different than butter and margarine, right?
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Why are they switching all the time which one we're supposed to use?
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They don't know all the restrictions and rules on it.
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There are things that have changed, and I think some of that is understandable, given
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It's a global pandemic that just started a few months ago, right?
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So they are still learning about it, and that's okay.
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But that is more of a reason to not be screaming at people in the frozen food aisle about it.
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A remarkable story, Pat, on the same kick from Canada where this weird shaming thing is happening and everyone's criticizing others for their behavior.
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And it just becomes your definition of whether you're a good citizen or not is if you criticize others as to what they're doing in the middle of a pandemic.
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And it's a ridiculous instinct, but it's not surprising in some ways.
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This one actually did surprise me, though, because I didn't see.
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It's like there's like a real a real twist on this one.
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Did you just spoil the ending, by the way, of The Sixth Sense?
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And he's about 20 years older than he looks in the movie, which is crazy.
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And just to give you a quick scene setting, they're doing the typical,
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I've noticed young people are out of the park in the nice weather type of report where
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they're criticizing whether why they're not wearing masks and all this other stuff.
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So in the middle of an interview, a guy walks up to her and just plants one.
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Kind of what we were just talking about, Patty.
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You know how you go out and you make out with people randomly in the streets?
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Listen to the clip and tell me where you think this is going.
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A spontaneous kiss from someone that she doesn't know.
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Having met just minutes earlier, Jillian McAllen says she's okay with the kiss.
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We asked Jack Ring, the man who initiated the kiss, if he's aware of all the risks of kissing
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Do you worry about possibly either of you having that, contracting, passing, or anything?
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Oh, not if you just said it right now, but yeah, I probably do right now.
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Now, you see the tone of that reporting, right?
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It's like, oh my gosh, these guys aren't wearing masks.
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And now they're kissing each other in the park.
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And luckily, Pat, you and I don't have to worry about it.
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But like, do we just turn off courtship entirely?
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If we're in perpetual lockdown mode, do we just end the species because only the people
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who are together can never touch each other again?
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Like, at some point, there's no more babies that come out of that situation.
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But we have to take a one-minute break here, Pat.
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I would like to know, just take a minute, everybody in their car, you're driving, if
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you might be actually out of the house today, congratulations.
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Because there's a twist to it that I would have never predicted after watching that clip.
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It's Pat and Stu in for Glenn Beck, who's on vacation this week.
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They're doing the typical shame young people in the park for being outside during the COVID-19 crisis.
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We'll give you one more chance to listen to it, and then we'll reveal what the real story is here.
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A spontaneous kiss from someone that she doesn't know.
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Having met just minutes earlier, Jillian McAllen says she's okay with the kiss.
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We asked Jack Ring, the man who initiated the kiss, if he's aware of all the risks of kissing a person you don't know during a pandemic.
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Do you worry about possibly either of you having that, contracting, passing, or anything?
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Oh, not if he just said it right now, but yeah, I probably do right now.
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I'm thinking about it right now, but the kiss was worth it.
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When you zoom in, you can see the molecules going from one mouth to the other.
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CTV, the network that aired that, has apologized for airing an unwanted kiss.
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They're saying it's a Me Too violation because he never asked her whether he was allowed to kiss her.
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Isn't it only a Me Too violation if she's offended by it?
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First of all, she laughs hysterically to the point she literally snorts.
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She says that they had met earlier for a few minutes.
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So she's saying, like, she wants future contact and insinuates at least, right?
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You'd have to know that she's already given her phone number to this guy.
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Because you had to deal with it all the time because you're constantly going out and making
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So the Dandelion Initiative has been all over you.
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But they were very upset, started an online pushback against this.
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They said that they were very grateful for the apology.
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The network apologized for airing it because a kiss from an unknown person is wrong in every
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circumstance despite she's now lost her own agency to approve.
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So this is not just a, hey, let's shame people in the park for not wearing masks, it's also
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let's shame people for kissing people even when they like it, it's a Me Too violation.
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This is the world you live in now where I thought we had left some of this crap behind because
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we've got a serious pandemic going on and maybe the nonsense would go away.
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We're getting all the old stupid crap that we used to have to deal with.
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Which honestly would be a welcome respite from dealing with death all the time.
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I was, you know, we complained about 2019 because, well, there was, you know, all the gender stuff,
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My personal pronouns are he, him, hers, or me, mine, ours, or they, them, theirs.
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And then that went away for a little while, but now it's, you're right, it's all starting
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to sneak back in and now the Me Too movement is coming back.
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I mean, because as they say, CTV News apologized for airing a clip that featured, quote,
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Unless she, unless our new standard is she had to get a notarized form to receive a kiss.
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That is a completely, is the most consensual thing I've ever seen.
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Like, she is not only consenting to it, she's thrilled to the point of outwardly snorting.
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And if you, if you were opposed to it in the beginning, you pushed the guy away, right?
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And the guy's like, now remember, this is a guy who they gave the name out of.
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They gave his name out on the air and accused him now of non-consensual behavior.
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He says, let's see, Jack Ring, the Toronto, told the Toronto Sun Friday, he's been getting
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a lot of comments that his actions were sexual assault.
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But he said he met the woman earlier that day, and they had spent time together.
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She sat down with us for the whole day, and she was telling me she likes me.
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I went to the shop, and when I was away, she had to leave.
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So I, she left her number with a friend, and she told me she wanted to get together.
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So I came back, and they told me what she said.
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He said, I seen her being interviewed, so I went in for the kiss.
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People are assuming some random girl I don't know, which is weird.
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And now they basically called this guy a rapist for, for kissing a girl who wanted to be kissed
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Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck Program.
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You know, this kiss in the park in Canada where a guy approached a girl and spontaneously kissed her.
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Now they've apologized because he didn't ask her in advance or whatever if he could kiss her,
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Is it that some, you know, male executive gets to decide,
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or that she gets to decide that it's a non-consensual situation or not?
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Does that mean that there can be no spontaneity anymore in a romance at all?
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Like, if you're just saying, ma'am, I am thinking about putting my lips on your lips.
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That loses the magic of a first kiss, does it not?
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I mean, if you were to survey the audience right now,
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take a minute, a hundred happily married couples,
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Like, that's how most people would try to calculate
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There's a certain amount of leaning towards each other
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That's what makes, that's the magic of a relationship.
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this thing where you have to have it down in black and white.
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Maybe there could be a reason why you might do it.
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It might be a romantic ask in a certain, certain.
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She just, she just leapt in and, and went for it.
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Uh, and she did not say, may I kiss you please?
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Now this is, this is, uh, this is stunning to me because look,
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I love your wife's cookies, which sounds more flirtatious than it is.
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She actually has a cookie company, uh, scrumptious cookie.com.
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I would like to go buy more cookies there, but I'm a little,
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after this non-consensual news, I'm a little, right?
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I don't, I don't know if I want to support a business like that.
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And yes, it was, you know, 37 years ago, but still that doesn't make it right.
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I can see the echoes of that event in your soul.
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Do you see, do you see that I'm still a little bit troubled by it?
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No, look, we can go back and watch, you watch the Mad Men era, right?
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Where like every secretary went by and got groped as they were bringing their copies
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Um, relatively recently was a news anchor was filing a report and I want to say someone
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came by and like gave her a little like slap on the butt as they were walking by and she
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got, and like completely inappropriate, completely wrong, uh, obviously.
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And there's a good, a good example for you should be outraged.
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I would be outraged if that happened to my wife.
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And so I understand that like totally, that's a totally different situation than someone being
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kissed and outwardly telling you she's excited about it.
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And you still apologize for it and basically call this guy a rapist.
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When you have him on camera, you've given his name and then you're saying he was engaging
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He, I guess if you've seen the clip, everyone would say, come on, that's ridiculous.
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But still you now have it kind of on your record till the end of time.
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You know, even though your terrible origin story of your relationship, which sounds so
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That aside, I keep thinking to myself, good God, I'm glad I don't have to date in this environment.
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I feel for you if you're out there trying this right now.
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And especially in the workplace, how do you meet anybody at work now?
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You can't even approach somebody in a romantic way at work.
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Because, I mean, you know, look, I don't have a game.
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There wasn't a lot of picking up in bars that was going to go on in my life.
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The only chance I ever had was being around long enough to annoy them into entertaining
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Especially if you think back, Pat, to, you know, in our industry in particular, this is
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It's one that you are constantly working, especially when you're young in your career.
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If you're not working 20 hours a day, you get nowhere in this industry.
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Because there's a lot of people who want to be on the radio and want all their free concert
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tickets and all the crap that goes along with radio as you're coming up in it.
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Like, you might get a little bit of that here and there.
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But generally speaking, it's just one of those industries where you're working for no money,
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really long hours, doing work that no one else wants to do.
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That's essentially your first 10 years in the industry for most people.
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It is not conducive at all to going out and dating people who aren't also in your industry.
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Working weekends, working nights, working holidays.
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You know, I think back to my wife who's also in radio.
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She, we used to have, she would have New Year's Eve gigs every New Year's Eve.
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And so, if you think about, like, the typical New Year's Eve couples thing that you do,
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you're out somewhere, the ball comes down, and you kiss your significant other.
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I know with you, Pat, you make out with random strangers on the street usually in that moment.
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But, like, so, for 15, 20 years, myself and my wife, she would be on stage doing a countdown
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And I would be sitting by myself at the bar watching, waiting for her to be done so we could
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But there was no, none of that stuff happened because she was always on stage, randomly making
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So, my point is, that is, like, it takes you out of that realm.
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When you're really, you know, busting your butt to try to get somewhere in your career,
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You apparently can't even, if you meet someone randomly in the park and spend a day with them,
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you can't even kiss them, even when they want that to happen.
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I would have no idea how to navigate these waters.
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And if you're trying to do it, especially if you were someone who maybe had a relationship
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early, that a long-term relationship when you were, you know, let's say you're in your
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trying to jump back into that world after already dealing with it.
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This woman in a park had, that's a nice origin story, isn't it?
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Like, if they, when they get married 30 years from now, they're gonna be like, so we're in
00:33:03.720
the park, and we're hanging out, and I had to go to a store.
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I came back, she was gone, but she left her number.
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And then I saw her across the park, she was in the middle of a news interview, and I just
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walked right in, and I gave her a kiss, and that's how mommy and daddy met.
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Now, I thought this one was gonna end differently, because when he first kissed her, I thought,
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So now they got something to tell their grandkids, if that worked out.
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And I'll say, you know, to the point of the whole coronavirus,
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part of this, we act as if you can take, think about this, you're taking everybody
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in their 20s who's single, whose entire life for the past few years has been, go to a bar,
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try to meet girls, go to a bar, try to meet guys.
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You're in that period of your life where that's a big part of it, right?
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And you're basically saying with a shutdown, just turn it all off for a few months.
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Like, that is not something you can just do easily.
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This is an entire world where you're saying no courtship, essentially, in your prime courtship
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It's a foundational part of the, it's a building block, literally, of the human existence of
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How would you meet people if you're not allowed to go near another human being?
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You're asking these people, some people who, what if you're dating someone and it's like
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Well, I guess it doesn't because we can't see each other.
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And the fact that people want to go out and be at a pool within six feet of each other
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after multiple months of not being able to see another human being is not, it's not a
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Here we are talking about the reason our species continues to exist, right?
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Like, it's that big of a deal if you extend it long enough.
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You kind of have to allow some of that to happen.
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Well, like you said, we don't even know how long this continues.
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They've been telling us, what, it might last up to 18 months?
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I mean, you know, with the economy, that's absurd.
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Anthony Fauci says that if America doesn't reopen soon, it will suffer irreparable damage.
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I wish you would have said it before this, but that's, I mean, I can't argue with that.
00:38:03.580
That's, that's, he's not, I mean, he has been saying all along, I'm the medical guy.
00:38:09.480
I'm the one who tells you what to do medically.
00:38:14.660
Although now he is saying we can't stay locked down forever because it will destroy the economy.
00:38:22.620
And that's why, you know, if you want to look at this in a positive light of what we've attempted to do here,
00:38:36.380
It is not a, it is not any, like, it's not an extensive solution.
00:38:39.160
If you stay in your panic room for the rest of your life, you eventually just die, right?
00:38:46.380
It's, it's a temporary, horrible, it's a horrible solution to a problem that is massive.
00:38:52.960
Locking yourself in a room in your home with no windows is not a good solution for almost any situation.
00:38:59.980
Just one situation is a good solution for, which is there's someone breaking into your house with a gun.
00:39:05.580
This is a, the same thing that we have attempted here.
00:39:08.360
Whether, you know, you can argue whether you like the results or not.
00:39:11.180
I think everyone understands that it's terrible for the economy.
00:39:20.880
You can't, you can't let this stuff go forever.
00:39:23.420
And places like L.A. County in particular are, I mean, even New York is opening up.
00:39:31.000
We're going to start, that's got a 25% capacity at restaurants.
00:39:34.180
I was like, wait a minute, I can't believe how many people live in, in the conservative movement too, are dealing with life in L.A. County right now.
00:39:46.600
And it will be hell again if they shut us down again, if there's a second wave.
00:39:50.640
That's what I'm a little nervous about, is the second wave.
00:39:57.460
And then, you know, they will insist once again that we shut down the economy again.
00:40:03.140
Uh, and we've got to be ready to say, uh, no, not this time.
00:40:08.200
Yeah, that was one of the initial solutions they were talking about, which was, you lock it down first, get the disease down low.
00:40:13.620
And then every time you have a new outbreak, you just lock it down again for another month.
00:40:18.680
And you're like, so you're like two months in, in regular life and then back for a month in lockdown and back and forth until we have a vaccine.
00:40:25.260
I can't, that's just screwing with people's heads.
00:40:29.600
I don't know how society would, would, would handle something like that, especially American society.
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Like there's a lot of places that attempted things like this in Asia, but it's a totally different culture, right?
00:40:42.900
Like it's, it's a culture that was, is much more used to dealing with the government telling you you're not leaving your home for a certain amount of time.
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This is totally foreign to the American culture.
00:40:57.740
I mean, these numbers are higher than almost anyone predicted, but still like we did that.
00:41:07.680
We, there's a lot of sacrifices already been done.
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We have to be able to go back to normal life at some level, even if it's with some precautions.
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And even our overlord, Anthony Fauci is saying that.
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NBA's in talks with Disney about finishing their season at the Disney complex.
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ESPN has this wide world of sports complex with all kinds of, you know, basketball courts, soccer fields, baseball diamonds,
00:41:54.380
and major league soccer and the NBA are both talking with Disney about doing their seasons there, which would be a pretty good place.
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They've got all the venues and, you know, you wouldn't have any people there except for the players, obviously just doing the games.
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Um, and it'd be a great place to kind of just be secluded away from everybody and, and finish things up.
00:42:23.800
It's the Pauly Shore biodome approach to major league sports, where you're just going to basically keep people quarantined away from the rest of society.
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And, and the reason, one of the big things is they're so worried about one person testing positive on one of these teams.
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Because if that happens, five do, and then they shut it down again.
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What they've said is, uh, if somebody gets it and they will, somebody probably will.
00:42:48.360
I mean, it's, it's likely, I guess, that someone will get it when everybody comes together.
00:43:00.020
I think you have, unless it's like a really big problem.
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What happens when eight people on the same team do on an NBA team that has, you know, 12 to 15 people.
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Like, what happens if like you're in the NBA finals and LeBron James tests positive for COVID?
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Now, obviously, in LeBron's case, I would say he should be ejected from the league and never return.
00:43:27.260
But let's say a player that I like, it happens to.
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Seriously, like, you know, you put, you know, Giannis for the Bucs tests positive during the NBA finals.
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You can't take away the, you know, NBA MVP off of a team in the middle of the finals, can you?
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Do you wait a couple of weeks and wait for him to be, you know, asymptomatic, test negative, make sure everyone else tests?
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You have to decide all those things in advance, obviously.
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They've got to be thinking about all that, right?
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Do you shut down the league or do you keep going?
00:44:06.320
And as long as it's just LeBron, if it's 15 people spread across different teams, then you probably have to stop.
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You probably, there's some level, right, where this just becomes insane.
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Then you're worried about a pandemic sweeping through the NBA and killing NBA basketball players.
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And, you know, like the way they're changing the seasons up, you know, they're trying to be basically a half season for baseball, where they're starting an 82-game season.
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So I don't know that that ever happens because the players aren't pleased.
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And I will say it's an interesting approach to fight about money in the middle of this.
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You know, your fans are, you get 38 million people out of work.
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But on the other hand, from the player's perspective, I signed a contract to play this sport.
00:45:11.160
When you're making $40,000 a year, though, you don't understand the guy who won't play for $3 million a year.
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And I think he was talking about working for $2.5 million.
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But he's a guy who has a future where he's going to be making probably $20 million a year.
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And doesn't want to risk going back and risk really more than, you know, I don't know.
00:45:44.700
Like risking injury for $2.5 million for him is probably not sensible financially.
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However, you have to take context into the equation here.
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You're in the middle of a pandemic where people have been locked in their homes.
00:46:02.660
At some point, do you just say, look, I would have dreamed to play a half season in the major leagues for $2.9 million my entire life until probably a couple years ago.
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You go back to you're a major league baseball player.
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And the first time I've got muscle soreness, I'm out.
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Like, are you, there's going to be guys faking injuries.
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There's going to be guys who are, you know, I have a minor surgery that I could get.
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I mean, you think about, there's a huge story today about how tons of companies.
00:47:01.780
They, they, they, one of the, I'm trying to think which insurance company, Nationwide maybe?
00:47:06.060
The Nationwide is saying that the work at home thing is working so well for us.
00:47:08.900
We're going to go from 20 Nationwide offices, hubs to four.
00:47:16.240
Because everyone's working at home, it's working out fine.
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So we're like, we're just going to keep going with that.
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A ton of companies are going to find out that, you know, we really don't need these.
00:47:24.380
Like, why, we have like 20 floors of this building.
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Commercial real estate is going to be a real concern.
00:47:43.040
I was talking to someone around here who's normally in the office and came in just, you
00:47:50.020
And it was like, it's just working great for us at home.
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I don't have to worry about all these side conversations I'm coming in and having with
00:48:01.440
The very opposite of what was in fashion a few years ago, which was the open office.
00:48:05.800
Where everyone, every single meeting we have, everything you do should be in full view of
00:48:10.800
So you can always, and I have always hated that.
00:48:13.060
We used to be bust on Glenn for that because he loves the open office thing.
00:48:18.460
No one knows anything, has any idea what you're doing.
00:48:21.160
I have no idea what the productivity levels are.
00:48:24.260
You know, nationwide when it comes to business, it's a whole change of society.
00:48:29.000
When you look around, we're about the only ones who come into the studio.
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It's about 10 people here, maybe, on a daily basis.
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Like, you know, when it comes to people who help get the show on the air, a few others.
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But it's interesting because when you look around at any media, they're always at home.
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I do think, tell me if you think I'm wrong on this, Pat.
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I think at some level it's become a virtue signaling thing.
00:48:57.720
Like, why wouldn't you, let's say you're running the Stephen Colbert show or John Oliver, right?
00:49:06.340
You can rent a facility or you could retrofit a part of his 10,000 square foot house to make
00:49:19.280
Like, this would not be difficult for any of these companies to do.
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And it's in a five-story library that's in my home, but don't notice that part.
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There's some video that went, you know, somewhat viral video of, you know, it was kind of a
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parody of the Imagine thing that they did at the beginning of this pandemic.
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Remember all the celebrities were like, imagine there's no heaven.
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And they all like traded it off and everyone made fun of them.
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And they did a rework of that with Eat It by Weird Al, which just randomly all saying
00:50:18.940
They did a reunion thing for charity and put this.
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And he's very dramatically saying, just eat it, like into the camera.
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And then he ends it with, we're all in this together.
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And he just realized he's in this ridiculous mansion in the Hollywood Hills overlooking
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Like intentional snow plan to show that he's not in it with you at all.
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The guy's been making parody songs and he's a multimillionaire and he has no connection
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He's got a $30 million mansion in the Hollywood Hills.
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It's Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program, AAA-727-BECK.
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Hey, so apparently there's a new documentary out about Lance Armstrong?
00:52:40.860
And I like sports anyway, and I like documentaries.
00:52:44.220
But still, they do a very good job with most of these.
00:52:51.600
They just came off of this Jordan thing, the 98 Bulls, a 10-part series that got ridiculous
00:52:58.180
And at the end of it, they started promoting, okay, now we're going to do this every Sunday
00:53:03.200
Hey, we're going to come back with a great sports story next week.
00:53:08.760
And it's basically his story, rise and fall of his career.
00:53:14.560
So last week was the first part, and the next week will be the ending of it.
00:53:21.580
Armstrong is a really interesting guy in that it's him being interviewed, everybody he was
00:53:28.780
on the cycling teams with, everybody around him, like real insight on that story.
00:53:34.300
And I don't care about cycling, but it's still a fascinating, it was a fascinating American
00:53:37.520
triumph initially that turned into obviously a totally different tale later on.
00:53:51.100
And especially since Americans don't usually win that race, because Americans don't usually
00:53:58.740
At one point, the guys, one of the people who was being interviewed was like, one of the
00:54:02.860
things you learn about American cyclists in particular is they're all really weird.
00:54:07.480
And he's like, you know, because the thing is, if you're a great athlete and you're in
00:54:11.540
America and you go into cycling, like it's a strange choice.
00:54:16.200
Yeah, because nobody's paying attention to you, really.
00:54:18.400
The great athletes go into basketball and baseball and all these other sports.
00:54:23.880
And the only reason anybody paid attention to Lance Armstrong was because he consistently
00:54:34.120
And something that made Americans actually care about the sport, because it was fun to
00:54:38.400
watch every other country who did care about it lose to us.
00:54:44.240
And I mean, and I used to just defend him like.
00:54:52.880
In France, he's using banned substances, deodorant, that kind of stuff.
00:55:04.060
And then it turns out, no, he's been doing steroids and blood doping in every manner.
00:55:10.800
You believed him, even when the accusations came in for years and years.
00:55:17.860
And you were, you defended him, if I remember right, almost right up to the time where he
00:55:22.740
And that was that literally right up to the time when he admitted it.
00:55:28.080
OK, I remember when this happened and it reminded me of of how Hillary Clinton should
00:55:34.620
have felt when Bill was like allowing her to go on television and say it's a right wing
00:55:50.720
And I think like I watching you as a real defender and then him admitting it, like it pisses you
00:56:01.180
So that part of it is really, I think, fascinating from just a level of the story was really good
00:56:09.180
You know, he's because he's very honest about it, right?
00:56:14.900
I mean, he did the Oprah interview shortly after maybe a year or two after it all came
00:56:24.760
But I think even more than this, Pat, I would love to get your take on this.
00:56:28.840
But the documentary starts first minute is, you know, they do those cool like set up
00:56:36.240
things where they kind of give you a little insight of the story, but not give it away.
00:56:40.300
And it starts with Lance Armstrong telling his talking about his life today.
00:56:45.480
When he goes out, he's at a restaurant or a bar and people start coming up and talk to
00:56:55.780
OK, and he describes these interactions and the way he describes them is basically to say
00:57:02.220
everyone comes up to him and says F you to his face over and over and over and over again.
00:57:09.100
And he says with no bleeps the whole word F you over.
00:57:15.740
And in the first two minutes of this ESPN, he must say this 20 times.
00:57:20.340
In the first minute and a half or two minutes of this documentary, it's on ESPN, which is
00:57:26.420
a Disney owned network that is at eight o'clock at night on Sunday, on Sunday, listing out
00:57:33.520
constant streams of F bombs with no edits and no one says anything.
00:57:38.600
It's a strange choice for ESPN to just let that happen.
00:57:46.260
I want to get your take on this, Pat, because the cultural part of this is really fascinating.
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We're talking about Lance, the documentary from ESPN 30 for 30.
00:59:24.020
And every time I talk about this particular topic, I hear the voice of Jeffy in my head
00:59:28.620
saying, word, please, because he gets upset when anyone says you shouldn't be constantly
00:59:35.280
swearing because there's only three words he knows are F-bombs and variations on the
00:59:40.280
But like I am take away the fact of whether it's right or wrong for just a second.
00:59:45.700
I am fascinated that we are a culture that went through the Janet Jackson thing in the
00:59:51.760
I remember it being a massively big deal when South Park aired an unedited episode at midnight
01:00:05.520
When I know that like it's always sunny in Philadelphia is a show that I love.
01:00:09.160
It's on FX and they will occasionally let, you know, like not occasionally a decent amount
01:00:23.040
But they get pretty aggressive with the language.
01:00:27.380
It's a show designed to be offensive for adults on an adult network.
01:00:32.100
This is ESPN on Sunday at like eight o'clock, unedited F-bombs in a constant stream.
01:00:39.300
You watched The Last Dance on the edited version of it.
01:00:47.820
But what I'm fascinated by is why this has happened with no cultural discussion.
01:00:53.360
No, I know it's a pandemic, so like there's other things to focus on.
01:00:59.240
But this has been, this has just gone from zero to a hundred miles an hour in two seconds
01:01:05.460
Like this is a, it's a Disney corporation is doing this.
01:01:09.280
I think you're about the only person I've heard bring this up.
01:01:13.440
I mean, millions and millions and millions of people watched this Jordan documentary.
01:01:18.260
I guess we're so desensitized to it now that they're just like, well, okay.
01:01:24.600
We just, this, because no one's going to be surprised that athletes are swearing.
01:01:28.440
But I would be surprised that they're just letting it go without any edits.
01:01:32.860
And all, the only thing you do is you get at the beginning of it that there's some language
01:01:36.780
Like there's a little, there's a little disclaimer at the beginning.
01:01:40.060
Because it seems like the cultural norm, there's no FCC concerns here.
01:01:44.760
I'm not saying anyone should get involved and ban this language.
01:01:47.320
I'm just, I just find it odd that there has been this massive cultural shift.
01:01:52.580
The fact that the Disney corporation is saying, you know what?
01:01:55.940
This is a good first two minutes of one of our, it's our, one of our marquee products
01:02:05.540
And no one said, Hey, Hey, you know, what does the mouse say about this?
01:02:12.220
I mean, it's goofy going to start just like, gosh, instead of, it's like, it's right around
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I mean, I don't even want to be, it's a small world would be very twisted experience.
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I think in this current Disney environment, I'm surprised no one's called them out.
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There's much more after the break on the Glenn Beck Program.
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It's Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck Program.
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He's on vacation this week, and he's eating really healthily.
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He just ordered five dozen of our cookies from my wife's cookie company, which is scrumptiouscookie.com.
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And we just opened this up to eight more states.
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Then we're going to do, I don't know where we go from here, but hopefully soon everything will be opened up.
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But scrumptiouscookie.com if you'd like to get some delicious cookies.
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And you've opened up the factory in Wuhan, I understand.
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So you can get the COVID-19 chocolate chip cookie.
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But I will say, I would get COVID-19 to eat one of your wife's chocolate chip cookies.
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This is after, what, two or three dozen last week and a couple dozen the week before.
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So look for him to come back a little more visible than he's even been up until this point.
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And just as he sneaks in and eats a cookie every time he goes.
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But he has been for sure our biggest client so far.
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Yeah, no, those are delicious and I can understand that order.
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Maybe not with your cookies in particular, but people are just eating like there's no tomorrow.
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You just, I mean, things are so different and we've been turned upside down.
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And I kept thinking to myself, you know, we used to go out, we would go out to eat.
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My wife would always, we have date night or whatever on the weekend.
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And we go out and have a nice dinner if we can.
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And I thought to myself, you know, what I should do is spend that money on food that I can
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So Uber Eats will deliver from restaurants around you, right?
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DoorDash or excuse me, Gold Belly is like all of the best foods from all around the country.
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So it's almost like a national DoorDash in a way.
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So like if you want a New York pizza from the New York place, they will get it and they
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freeze it and send it to you and it comes directly from the place.
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So the best, you know, cakes and cookies and you should get on there with a cookie company.
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But like again, like if I'm going to, you know, if I'm going to spend a normal, I'll
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go to a normal restaurant around here that might be okay and you're going to spend what
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You can, if you're going to spend 30 bucks a person, you can get the best, you know,
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pizza or like I ordered some place that sent lasagna.
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Like I was like, again, you know, you're heating, you're reheating it and stuff, but hey, why
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I might as well get the best food from around the country was my theory.
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Because then you get large portions of delicious food from around the country and you can just
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And that's a really, not a great thing for your physique.
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And my problem is I'm the only one in my house doing that.
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So I'm becoming extremely, extraordinarily large.
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A separate domicile from the rest of my family.
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My wife is full fledged vegetarian now for probably six or eight months.
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Uh, my, one of my sons has become a vegetarian, vegetarian, but only about three weeks worth,
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but he's doing really well, not eating meat for three weeks.
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And they're all on this health kick of vegetables every night.
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Will you, will you accept the vegetables on the side of your steak or no?
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You know, um, uh, this, I talked to, uh, the guy who is the CEO of impossible foods.
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And it was something that you guys taste tested on the air live with real meat and the impossible
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In fact, I think you both said that the impossible burger was the real burger.
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And so I was talking to him and it was interesting about him.
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I thought was he is like, you know, look, he, he wants to make a burger that people eat
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Like it's out his, his goal is to, to, to win that battle, but he wants to do it within
01:09:09.680
And he was talking about the, how, what the great things that capitalism has accomplished
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And this guy's probably not conservative, right?
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He, you know, he definitely was friendly to capitalism.
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Definitely like it didn't, he said a couple of times, he said, uh, you know, I look, what
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we want from the government is for them to get out of our way so we can do our thing.
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Like I can't get a freaking company to say the free market does anything.
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And I'm getting it from the guy who's making, you know, vegetarian meat products.
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I can get it from him, but I can't get it from a, you know, BP.
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They all act as if the free market is this evil thing.
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And here, you know, here's a guy who's saying like, look, we want to win this battle because
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our product is not as good as meat, but better.
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It was a, it was a really interesting conversation.
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And I think he's, you'd like, you like the someone who's going to, you know, he was a scientist
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And he's built, I mean, I, you know, it is, as you know, as well, it tastes really, really
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And you know, whether you like it, it's up to you, but I like that.
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Like the only way that this is going to happen, he brought up a great example of, uh, in China,
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they, the Chinese government told their people to cut meat, uh, intake by, I think like 50%.
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He's like, you know, the Chinese government has some success level with convincing people to
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And as he pointed out, like they basically did nothing.
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He's like, if the Chinese government's threats won't stop you to change your habits, trying
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to convince people to not eat meat or say, Hey, you know what?
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It's really good for the environment or whatever.
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What's going to change their habits is if they like it more.
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And he's like, you know, we can do, we're going to, you know, eventually get to the point
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where this is cheaper than, than, than meat that you're traditionally getting.
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Uh, you know, that you'll like, he's like, it'll be healthier.
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He's saying good things about it, but it was, I just love the approach.
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The fact that he wasn't trying to shame us into it.
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He wasn't trying to say, he even said, he's like, you know, I don't want a farm bill that
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Uh, he actually mentioned, uh, your taste test with you and Glenn on, uh, he, he did
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It's one where they basically profile companies and they actually mentioned, they mentioned
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Glenn in the middle of this and the taste test that you guys did.
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Just last year, um, you, you upgraded the recipe for the burger and then you began rolling
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it out at grocery stores and then at Burger King, which introduced, uh, the impossible
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And then Applebee's and White Castle and, and all these other chains started selling it
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I mean, I think even, even like Glenn Beck, you know, people like who are like, you, you
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would imagine would go after vegetarians or like, uh, like they, they loved it.
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And you went from like, just, you know, David Chang and a couple of restaurants in 2016
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And see the surprising thing there is that they've discovered that conservatives will like
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Give, if, if it tastes as good or better than meat, I'll definitely eat it.
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It's just like we've been saying for years, give me an alternative to an SUV, to gasoline
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powered engines that is viable all the time where I can, you know, I don't have to completely
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That's what Elon Musk has tried to do with Tesla.
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You know, we have a, we have one of the producers here at the blaze who has installed the solar
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panels and, um, uh, Tesla batteries in their house.
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It's like 10 cents, like legitimately like 10 cents for the month.
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I mean, it might not work if you're in some cloudy area or I don't know how, you know,
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like there's certain differences in different places, but he's in Texas and it works great
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He basically pays nothing for electricity now that he's paid for the system.
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Um, and, and so those things, I think that's how you win these battles.
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You don't win the battle by saying, well, uh, you know, you're a bad person if you don't
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do the thing that I want the same way, by the way, when we talk about the COVID thing that
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we're dealing with now, you're never going to win the battle by screaming at someone, not
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Like if you believe the thing that doesn't help the cause at all, try to convince people,
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try to show them, you know, lead by example, be cool, you know, talk to somebody about like
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why you think this is, you know, is the right thing.
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But if it's not, you know, you do your own thing.
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That sort of stuff is much more effective than screaming at people in a grocery store.
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Yet that's, that's the left's approach to everything.
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If you use too much electricity, you're a bad person.
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You know, you can't, you know, if I read it, you know, in the Bible, I mean, people have
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I think I can listen to you because of your stupid Instagram comments because you've shamed
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to me at a, at a beach, it doesn't work on anybody, does it?
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That's why this approach from, what's his name?
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Make a good product and people will just gravitate toward it.
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I will say Glenn Beck does come after vegetarians.
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Um, but almost every day, almost every day, but most people in my life don't, you know,
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Um, and so they eat, they eat whatever they want.
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She's not, but she, she loves that impossible burger, man.
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A lot of them, because of course I order it because I like it.
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They try it and then they wind up just ordering it because they like it.
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You're not going to win that battle by guilting people and putting scary videos on the internet.
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I think it's a great, it was just, it was, it's a nice approach to hear.
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It was nice to hear a freaking person in business say something good about the free market for once.
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It's Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program.
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Interesting article maybe we should talk about coming up is where does the government get the right to require vaccinations?
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Does the government have a right to mandate that you receive a vaccination if one becomes available for this virus?
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I think the science is pretty good on it, frankly.
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However, the government forcing people to do things like this.
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You almost want to do it at a point of protest.
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We did a poll a couple of weeks ago at Pat Unleashed on Twitter with my listeners of if a vaccine is developed and it becomes available, but it's mandated, will you take it?
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It's hard to say because you're not in that situation.
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I think two people are at the point now where they feel like, all right, the worst is behind us.
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We kind of understand this a little bit better.
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I mean, the flu vaccine is not near 100% effective, but a lot of people don't...
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And a lot of that is because people think, well, it's the flu.
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I was like, well, if I get the flu, I get the flu.
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And so I think if people are really scared about it, like if we got to a situation, you
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know, this happened with the Spanish flu in 1918, where 1919 was much worse than 1918,
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and it got really ugly with the second wave, if the United States turned into a bunch of Manhattans
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and we were all at that level of freaking out of, holy crap, like lots of people are
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It doesn't feel like Manhattan in a lot of the country.
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If it did, I think you have a much different percentage on that.
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People would be much more willing to go for that.
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But right now, I mean, people look at it, well, you know, like it's...
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I mean, you know, I mean, look, we've had a lot of people die over this, and it's going
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I mean, we're still, even on good days, we're still losing 700, 800 people a day.
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You know, the biggest cause of death in America is about 1700 a day.
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So, you know, you look at it that way, and it's like, it's still pretty.
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But we feel we've learned enough about it now to kind of maybe be able to stay out of
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And if it doesn't feel like it's a huge flare-up, I think a lot of people will say,
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You might have to, you know, we might have to brave this for a while without any chemical
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I guess it's just everyone coming together to try to do the same thing at the same time
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But I mean, they've never solved anything in 18 months like this.
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Although this feels like, you know, when they say they've got a Manhattan project going.
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Some amazing things that we just heard about in the four-minute buzz from Hillary just a
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I mean, first of all, the fact that the CDC has revised their mortality rate on COVID-19
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from about three or four percent-ish, where they were saying it was 10 times what it would
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be 10 to 50 times or something more dangerous death rate-wise than the influenza.
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Now they've revised that from three or four percent to point four percent death rate with
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Which I think is about, you know, I did a show on this and I think in February, because Trump
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was getting beat up about him saying, I think it's going to be less than one percent.
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I think we're going to find out it's going to be less than one percent.
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And he's getting hammered like, no, the World Health Organization says 3.4 percent.
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When you looked at what they said, including all the scientists on this, they all were saying,
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we're not picking up millions and millions of cases.
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Because we don't think it's going to be anywhere near where it is now, but that takes time for
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it to come down where you understand how far it's spread.
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It's just a very much unknown factor of a new virus.
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All of his experts were saying it too, by the way.
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But the media said, no, look at this report from the World Health Organization, who is really
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just reporting the current rate, you know, like we only have discovered, you know, for
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every 100 cases we've discovered, three people are dying, right?
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Well, there's a lot of cases they're not discovering.
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But, you know, it's a totally different scenario to prepare for, obviously.
01:23:15.500
And we probably first got a really good look at that from that Stanford study where they
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looked into Marin County and how many people had the antibodies as opposed to how many people
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It was 50 to 85 times higher the number of people who were actually infected, which lowered
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the mortality rate by, you know, a factor of 10 or 100.
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And look, you know, I've thought for, I've said on the air a bunch of times, I think,
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I actually said 0.4 is what I think it's going to end up at.
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You know, the initial, the princess, the island princess ship, which is a really good look
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Like, there's no, you know where every case is, right?
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However, you know, because it's a cruise, more older people, there's reasons why it
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But it was a good sense to make sure that it was going to be, a good sense that it was
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going to figure, you know, wind up being less than 1%.
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The other part of this, though, is when you talk about that study, which does show that
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This idea that we're somewhat close to herd, you know, herd immunity is, I mean, it does
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I mean, like even the study you're talking about, which did say, you know, it was 50 times
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as many people thought, had it than they, they had tests for.
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It also said the high number of people in the county was 5.6%.
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It was like 2.8 to 5.6% was their range of people who had had it already.
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So we're not, I mean, the highest number anywhere in the country was New York City, which was
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So we're nowhere near, they think it's like 4% of the country has had this so far, something
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like that, which is still a huge number and does lower the mortality rate considerably.
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But it is not something where we are like, oh, well, 80% of people have had it, so we're
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It's one of those things where I wish I had that disease.
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But I know we've had people here have done the antibody tests, which are now much more
01:25:17.220
And you go in there rooting for the idea that you actually had COVID-19.
01:25:21.640
Because now you survived it, it would be over, and now you can go do whatever you want,
01:25:25.120
in theory, because of the immunity, which does seem to be proved out.
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That's another piece of good news we had last week.
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They don't know how much, they don't know for how long.
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I mean, I've heard Fauci say this in his testimony, where he says, we do believe it will
01:25:44.340
give you immunity, but we don't, we haven't, we don't have the final, you know, confirmed
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We believe it because we've watched every other virus and how it acts.
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So we believe it's going to react the same way, but we don't have it confirmed yet.
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The first confirmations really started trickling in last week where they found there is some
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It just depends on how long that is and how, what does that mean?
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Like immunity doesn't always mean you don't get it.
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A lot of times it means it's just a lot more manageable.
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Like you might get, you might get a milder case of it.
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It might be much more mild and it's not that big of a deal.
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You know, we just don't want, I mean, I had enough of this thing.
01:26:30.540
And, but I mean, this week, maybe even today we're, we're going to hit a hundred thousand
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And when that happens, you're going to get parades from the mainstream media.
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The whole circus is going to be brought out for us when it hits a hundred thousand.
01:26:54.740
Can you, I mean, they love to talk about the amount of deaths that, that there have been
01:27:00.680
because then they pin it all back to Donald Trump and blame it on him.
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I don't know if the American people are going to do that.
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So many people have their minds made up on Trump.
01:27:13.300
And it does seem that the people who hate him are blaming him for everything.
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People who love him are blaming him for nothing.
01:27:18.760
And, you know, so I think there's, you know, I don't think the response has been perfect
01:27:23.860
You know, governors, you know, the president, the CDC, I think has had major missteps.
01:27:31.420
But that being said, it's a frigging, it's a difficult situation to deal with.
01:27:37.280
But then you got people blatantly removing the blame from themselves and then placing
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He's trying to depoliticize it by saying that he was following the federal guidelines from
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No, he signed an executive order that sent COVID-19 patients to nursing homes.
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Guaranteed they would be admitted with COVID-19, COVID-19 positive.
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And also the other part of that, which doesn't get as much attention, is that he prohibited
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nursing homes from testing patients for COVID-19 if they weren't showing symptoms.
01:28:17.760
So like if you wanted to say, okay, we're bringing in five new people, let's make sure
01:28:21.160
they don't have COVID before we, you know, get them started here, right?
01:28:24.120
Totally sensible thing, responsible thing to do.
01:28:28.760
You couldn't have done a worse job if you were trying to kill people.
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If you were to design a policy, which had a goal of killing as many people in nursing
01:28:45.140
It's 5,000 confirmed, but they are not, they did this thing where they were taking people
01:28:49.600
who were in nursing homes, got sick, went to the hospital, died at the hospital.
01:28:53.340
They weren't counting them as nursing home deaths.
01:28:57.660
I mean, so it's probably at least another 5,000 because they're probably around like
01:29:02.460
It's about 40, between 40 and 60% of deaths throughout states are from nursing homes.
01:29:09.360
And, you know, he, if you were to design a policy where you're like, you know what?
01:29:16.420
You know, they've already done that whole, you know, soylent green thing.
01:29:22.720
Would you change a bit of Andrew Cuomo's strategy if that was your goal?
01:29:30.640
And if they have it, make them go back inside the nursing home.
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It seems as if it was designed for the purpose.
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It's Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program, 888-727-BEZK.
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On the campaign front, looks like President Trump has outspent Joe Biden by, I don't know,
01:31:13.680
He spent $21 million, I think, during this pandemic.
01:31:27.140
Maybe they're just not running in Texas, but I haven't seen them on the national network
01:31:37.380
I mean, Biden technically has not wrapped up the nomination.
01:31:40.660
A lot of his voters don't think he's going to wind up holding onto it with all of his controversies
01:31:45.060
I mean, when you go on TV and you're like, well, you ain't black if you don't vote for
01:31:50.500
He didn't even say, he didn't actually say that.
01:31:52.680
He said, you ain't black if you consider not voting for me.
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It's actually worse than the way it's being presented.
01:31:59.820
Yeah, but because he's Joe Biden, I just Joe, be a Joe, don't worry about it.
01:32:04.600
That's basically what, can you imagine if this would have been Donald Trump?
01:32:09.620
They'd be tearing him limb from limb still today.
01:32:12.620
It would lead every single newscast on cable news and network news.
01:32:19.940
And they went right into, you know, reputation repair mode for Biden all weekend.
01:32:26.100
Here's a quick sampling of some of what they had to say in the mainstream media about Biden's
01:32:33.620
You know, I'm a little revved up, okay, because this is a distraction.
01:32:38.440
Vice President Biden spoke to his comments on the Breakfast Club.
01:32:41.900
He apologized, he clarified, he said he shouldn't have been so cavalier, but we need to move
01:32:46.700
on and talk about the issues and what's really at stake here.
01:32:52.100
But I really think the gall and the nerve of President Trump.
01:32:58.560
I believe that Joe Biden was incorrect in saying the statement, you ain't black.
01:33:04.980
But I also believe that his apology was sufficient.
01:33:10.300
He was saying, I'm sorry, I was being too cavalier.
01:33:13.980
To his credit, Joe Biden recognized within minutes that he had gotten carried away.
01:33:18.260
I think he has apologized and he should have apologized.
01:33:21.700
It was like, you know, one of those jokes that just falls flat.
01:33:34.400
I mean, we can obsess on this, but this is, in the scheme of things, this is not going
01:33:45.720
When you have the entire media making nonstop excuses for these comments, they don't seem
01:33:54.620
It's like when he said this, I mean, you got the first sort of mainstream African-American
01:34:01.920
who is articulate and bright and clean and nice looking guy.
01:34:14.400
Remember, he kind of skated through that one, too.
01:34:17.320
It's amazing when you're a Democrat, how much you can get away with racially.
01:34:27.100
I did a thing on Stu Does America on Friday asking the question, is Joe Biden a racist?
01:34:32.100
And we just went through, just went through, you know, what he's been saying over the years
01:34:38.840
and whether that would typically be considered racist.
01:34:48.900
There is a lot there when it comes to Joe Biden.
01:34:51.240
And when you talk about, you know, the storybook thing that you played there, you know, what
01:34:56.800
I mean, it's like, you know, it's like a fairy tale.
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It's like, it's a children's story of magical beings.
01:35:02.740
That's what a clean, articulate, good-looking African-American is to Joe Biden.
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And articulate is defined as speaking coherently.
01:35:12.120
So he thinks it's like a magical being that a black person could speak coherently.
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And we didn't even like, it was like, no one even noticed it.
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You know, the guy, we know about his comments about Indian-Americans.
01:35:26.300
In Delaware, the largest growth in population is Indian-Americans moving from India.
01:35:32.920
You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin' Donuts.
01:35:56.040
You know, so he's not, I mean, he was, of course, we remember what he, the whole busing
01:36:03.320
He said he was, that was led into by the fact that he worked with James O. Eastland.
01:36:21.360
I have no prejudice in my heart, but the white race is the superior race.
01:36:28.560
I'm just going to go out and say, I think you do have a little prejudice in your heart.
01:36:32.440
Then you have, he called, some of these are so amazing.
01:36:37.960
His campaign accused the South Carolina Black Caucus chairman of being purchased by Tom Steyer
01:36:45.980
during this past campaign, not long, not long ago.
01:36:48.700
He was accused of being xenophobic about talking about China.
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Cory Booker beat him up about his racial stuff during the debates.
01:36:58.720
He then, he did the thing where he said, white children are different than poor children.
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He said, kids of black parents weren't doing as well because their parents basically didn't
01:37:19.700
You remember this one where he said, what we need is we need to have people from the government
01:37:22.500
come in and teach these people how to do their thing because we need to have the record
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Which again made no sense, but that was Joe Biden.
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If you remember the corn pop story, that was always good.
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The Trump campaign on Earth this, I missed this when this came out, found a story from
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1987 where Joe Biden was, this is the quote, but campaigning in Alabama in April, Biden talked
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of his sympathy for the South, bragged of an award he received from George Wallace in
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1973 and said, quote, we Delawareans were on the South side in the Civil War.
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Would that be a big deal if Donald Trump said that?
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vice presidential candidate or Supreme Court justice would be a sexist?
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Because I think you would say yes if I said women.
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Now, think of our society and the way we throw the word racism around, especially from the
01:39:55.260
people that you just heard in that exact montage we just played.
01:40:03.520
He said, segregation was a matter of black pride.
01:40:06.360
And he said that integration would prevent black people from embracing their own identity.
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Can't do it because, but that was, that's okay.
01:40:19.540
He did, I will say, when he was having this struggle, he decided to ask the, quote, blacks
01:40:25.620
on my staff about whether he had something in him that was deep-seated and he didn't realize.
01:40:34.160
He asked all the blacks on his staff, Pat, you know, what's he supposed to do?
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And he was very, very, very clear about how open to the other races he was when he bragged
01:40:46.760
to the Washington Post, quote, I still walk down the street in the black side of town.
01:40:57.320
That's a, it's almost, he's almost too progressive on this issue, Pat.
01:41:08.460
If you want to go back and check it out, you can watch it on YouTube.
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But, like, you go back and watch this, quote after quote after quote, video, audio.
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He has a, you could say that the society has become too sensitive to racial allegations,
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I think that's a very legitimate point in many circumstances.
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However, the people voting for Joe Biden, the people defending Joe Biden, are the people
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And if you apply that environment to Joe Biden, he should not only not be president.
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I mean, I, you know, I tend to think that the left throws that around in really reckless
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You have to look at, I do think you should look at the context of the moment.
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You know, some of these things were said at times where other people were saying similar
01:42:05.180
But he's way over the line as to what they would accept from anybody else.
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And what he did on Friday with Charlemagne is inexplicable that they're accepting that.
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It's nowhere near the line that they've established.
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Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck Program, 888-727-BECK.
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We were talking about Joe Biden a few minutes ago and the fact that he is quite possibly racist.
01:44:06.780
But it was nice to see over the weekend, you know, he keeps complaining about people not paying their taxes, and in particular, Amazon,
01:44:15.620
which everybody is whining about because the theory goes, Amazon paid zero taxes last year.
01:44:26.180
Seems difficult to pull off, even if you're Amazon.
01:44:28.440
It seems like everybody in the company should be arrested, or at least the company's CFO, maybe.
01:44:32.820
And that's certainly the message you're supposed to take from the comment.
01:44:38.100
But instead, Amazon has fought back a little bit, which is great, because, well, here is the comment from Biden.
01:44:49.080
No company pulling in billions of dollars in profits should pay a lower tax rate than firefighters and teachers.
01:44:59.240
They're not paying a lower rate than firefighters and teachers.
01:45:23.140
So now you're at $3.4 billion payroll and customs duties.
01:45:26.900
More than $1.6 billion in state and local taxes.
01:45:33.240
And then you can add on another $9 billion in sales tax and use tax.
01:45:37.540
But that, I mean, I don't know that that qualifies, because everybody pays those.
01:45:42.060
So, but you got $5 billion in taxes that Amazon paid last year.
01:45:51.060
And they pay the, by the way, you know, they pay the normal rate as assigned by the government.
01:45:57.020
Which is why they're saying, okay, if you've got a problem with how much we paid, change
01:46:10.800
The interesting thing with Amazon is like they haven't been immense.
01:46:14.000
They're a huge company and they make lots of money.
01:46:15.740
But, you know, they came out of the internet world and were not profitable for a very long time.
01:46:19.700
So, at some point, I mean, they always had to pay payroll tax though.
01:46:25.300
But like you go back and you say, okay, well, were they profitable?
01:46:30.080
So, they probably weren't paying a lot of income taxes.
01:46:34.540
Anybody who starts a company is going to face that same thing.
01:46:38.640
You know, especially when you're starting out and trying to grow, you're spending a lot more money to build new places and design new technology and all the things that Amazon has done.
01:46:50.480
You know, like they didn't pay tax, tons as much tax as you'd think, at least for a while.
01:46:57.860
I mean, now they're at the position where they're paying a lot.
01:47:05.020
I guess they're supposed to say, well, you know what?
01:47:21.860
Even Bernie Sanders, when asked, said, no, I don't pay more than I'm asked to pay.
01:47:27.920
I take, he takes, you know, Bernie was asked about this during the campaign.
01:47:31.360
He said he admitted to taking all of the deductions from Trump's tax cut.
01:47:40.960
You could always send, there's an address that says gifts to the federal government.
01:47:47.300
You know how many people, we had this statistic.
01:47:51.840
But it was about this time of year where everybody's complaining about how little rich people
01:47:59.060
And somebody looked into who actually did pay more.
01:48:03.760
How many people actually put money on that line and said, yeah, I've got a gift for the
01:48:09.640
There was one person in the United States of America who did that.
01:48:14.380
I forget who it was, but I don't think it was anybody that was famous necessarily.
01:48:21.520
I kind of want to do it just to get, you know, just to make it two.
01:48:25.580
Yeah, it was, I was thinking about that would actually be a funny thing to do just to be
01:48:32.080
And to be able to say that on the air all the time.
01:48:36.320
And then when they say, you know what, you were just a hateful conservative who, who just
01:48:42.100
And I could say, actually, I donate money to the federal government on top of what I have
01:48:51.620
I mean, it's worth a dollar to send one dollar to the federal government just so you get
01:48:58.640
I mean, of course, what they're going to do is waste it, but still, still, they would
01:49:02.240
still be, it's only a dollar paid more than you had to.
01:49:12.440
And then there was talk that they might push that back to the, to after the election.
01:49:17.340
But I, I haven't heard any more talk about that.
01:49:27.520
What do you, what if there were never taxes due again?
01:49:31.640
If it's good for these few months, why wouldn't it be good later?
01:49:40.200
By the way, looking at the Amazon profit numbers, they were still basically not profitable
01:49:48.640
Their, their, their profit was basically nothing until really the fourth quarter of 2017, probably
01:49:57.420
to be fair, is they, they made $2 billion in profit in that quarter.
01:50:01.640
But before that, they, you know, they were spending so much.
01:50:09.600
That seems like a poorly run company when you, but I mean, look at that.
01:50:15.300
Their sales in like, for example, in 2000, uh, 2014 was their quarter four.
01:50:21.440
They've made $60 billion in sales, but only $1 billion in profit.
01:50:30.140
However, they were basically breaking even from the start of their company up until 2018.
01:50:36.520
I mean, they weren't making a lot of profit and they were able to get some money through,
01:50:39.420
uh, you know, everyone has, everyone works the system to their best of their ability.
01:50:43.820
And if you're thinking to yourself, well, I can either pay taxes, I can pay 30% to the
01:50:48.960
government right now, or I can take that 30%, uh, and invest it into a new factory and increase
01:51:00.080
No, it's the reason why it exists is to incentivize companies like Amazon to not just sit on a
01:51:05.540
bunch of cash, instead reinvest it into communities and growing their business.
01:51:09.360
You're, you're incentivizing companies to say, I'd rather spend it on something that
01:51:13.300
will benefit me than just hand it to the government.
01:51:15.160
So it like, that's why the rules are set up that way so that companies will spend their
01:51:20.160
money on trying on research and development and growth and, and these other things to
01:51:24.880
We're trying to incentivize growth of the economy.
01:51:27.700
Everybody who's a business owner understands that.
01:51:31.660
Every single person outside of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez who makes the criticism.
01:51:36.620
Obviously AOC doesn't understand anything that she says.
01:51:38.740
So she would not qualify for this category, but everybody else who makes this comment understands
01:51:45.160
They're set up this way to incentivize businesses, to hire people, to grow, to grow, build new
01:51:50.820
companies that construction workers are going to go work on, to, to, to, to make the economy
01:51:58.020
Now, obviously AOC and her economics degree, you're not going to grasp that, but everybody
01:52:03.800
And you criticize a company that you got to believe they use all the time.
01:52:09.760
Even Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has to use Amazon a lot.
01:52:15.720
I mean, especially through this, this quarantine.
01:52:18.620
They made this big deal about, you know, is Jeff Bezos going to be the first trillionaire?
01:52:26.600
Now, if you look at the study, first of all, all they're doing is just projecting his annual
01:52:31.260
growth over the amount of money he has for six years.
01:52:37.460
But he has like 180 billion or something, right?
01:52:40.360
It's nowhere near a trillionaire at this point.
01:52:42.620
But stepping back from that, can you imagine going through this quarantine without Amazon?
01:52:48.480
Just think, if we just took that out of our society right now.
01:52:53.400
You could basically rely on it on time, especially if it was an essential thing.
01:53:02.380
It was nonstop boxes being delivered to your door so you didn't have to go out.
01:53:07.160
You were able to stay home and not go buy those things.
01:53:09.520
That's why I have no quarrel with Amazon at all.
01:53:14.400
He should be worth 140 or 180 billion dollars or whatever he's worth because he came up
01:53:21.160
with a company that we can't even imagine life without now.
01:53:27.900
He and his wife started that business in their garage, then moved across the country, based
01:53:33.040
it in the West, and built it into this, something that we can't imagine being without.
01:53:38.840
I mean, I remember when Amazon first started being really prevalent, and I would think,
01:53:55.300
And it's turned into basically everything that you need for every situation.
01:54:00.060
And by the way, people are like, oh, well, Amazon is taking money away from smaller companies.
01:54:05.200
And some of that is a fair question to ask society, how much of that do you want to happen?
01:54:12.260
But you have to remember, too, it's also almost 100% of the sales of thousands and thousands
01:54:17.020
of companies through their third-party selling.
01:54:20.080
And companies go, all these companies that you're buying stuff on Amazon are all companies
01:54:27.000
Like they are, Bob's company makes something, puts it on Amazon to sell, and you buy it through
01:54:32.680
Amazon, like you can make an argument that's an evil, you know, Amazon situation, but it's
01:54:38.540
You know, like companies like Etsy and eBay, these big brand names are helping small business
01:54:51.060
Where the, when you get, you pick the big guy who's the richest guy, used to be Gates.
01:54:57.360
And you pick the Bezos because he's, you know, I don't agree with Bezos, his politics or anything
01:55:01.920
like that, but the bottom line is he's built an amazing company, you're right, from absolutely
01:55:07.240
nothing, and he's turned it into something that is really tough to, it's tough to understand
01:55:16.180
I mean, obviously other companies sell stuff online, we'd figure it out, but I mean, this
01:55:21.680
I mean, I don't know how we deal without Amazon Prime Video, let alone the entire company.
01:55:28.580
You know, AOC comes out and says, oh, we don't want your factory in our state.
01:55:32.160
Like, okay, well, they'll go somewhere else and bring all those jobs somewhere else.
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Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program this week, 888-727-BECK.
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We're just kind of continuing to marvel at Amazon and what they've done during the break.
01:57:11.560
Apparently, Stu, you're of the belief that Amazon Cloud is their biggest money-making enterprise?
01:57:23.040
I think it's the biggest, most profitable part of the company.
01:57:29.060
43%, this is 2017, 43% in Amazon Web Services growth.
01:57:34.720
Then 42%, 42, 45, 49, 49, 48, 45, 41, 37, 35, 34 per quarter we're talking about.
01:57:45.520
I mean, and you know, one of the things that's amazing about, you look back at the history of
01:57:50.440
capitalism, how much failure is a part of the model where, you know, I was reading this when
01:57:58.800
I was reading Matt Ridley's book, it's called How Innovation Works.
01:58:03.160
But he's talking about this and he's talking about how the trial and error process is how
01:58:08.440
All these great innovations happen in our world.
01:58:10.320
And it hit me for the first time that at no point in the phrase does it say you succeed.
01:58:16.460
It's just trying something and failing, like trial and error, trial and error, trial and
01:58:21.140
At some point, I hope you get to success in theory.
01:58:24.060
But with Amazon, we look at Amazon and say, we'd say Amazon's the gold standard of web companies,
01:58:29.120
Like you have Amazon, even though they started as a book company and have changed a million
01:58:32.420
times, you'd say, if you were to say like, what's the success story of Amazon, you'd
01:58:42.980
What's that when you think of the cataclysmic frontline failure of a website from the dot
01:59:03.920
And here they are as the ultimate sign of success.
01:59:09.400
And, you know, I think that's one of my pieces of optimism when it comes to a treatment or
01:59:18.760
When we have that Manhattan Project sort of ideal, when everyone in the world and everyone
01:59:23.580
in this country is looking at trying to solve the same problem at the same time, you saw
01:59:27.760
what happened when we really ramped testing up.
01:59:29.540
When the CDC wasn't in the way, we were able to like have private labs go after it.
01:59:37.080
Antibody tests have done a lot of the same thing.
01:59:39.380
When we're all focused on something like this and capitalism has a role, you see it go crazy.
01:59:45.500
And I think that's the part of me that's optimistic.
01:59:50.120
But like you said, when you have some of the biggest moneymakers in the world combined
01:59:53.580
with some of the best minds in the world and scientists and the world of medicine, you
01:59:59.280
can't help but think, well, yeah, they're going to come up with something soon.
02:00:04.740
And then there's others who think, well, Bill Gates is involved.
02:00:07.640
So obviously there's, he's trying to kill people.
02:00:13.860
I will say though, it's like, I thought, I know not everybody thinks of it this way, but
02:00:19.620
Like here is every smart person in the world is trying to solve this problem.
02:00:25.800
If you get it, it just creates antibodies and then you don't get it anymore.
02:00:28.320
Like it just immediately comes up with this thing to fight it.
02:00:30.640
And there's like millions of scientists trying to figure out how can we do that exact same
02:00:40.260
It's just, you know, it's, it could be an ugly road.