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00:00:00.000 welcome to the podcast it's uh pat and stew uh and jeffy and today for uh mr glenn beck who

00:00:05.120 returns from vacation next week uh we talk a little bit about abortion here in the first hour

00:00:09.600 there's a been another church defaced by graffiti um and it comes to the pro-choice side of the

00:00:15.600 argument uh the back and forth here is really it's telling because one side is just not telling the

00:00:21.800 truth on it right they change their terms they change their words they talk about everything

00:00:26.520 but the thing they want and that is pretty revealing that the thing that they want is maybe

00:00:30.940 not all that appetizing hour two is something that everybody seemed pretty passionate about

00:00:34.940 the robocalls um that we get on our cell phones all the time uh absolutely obnoxious yes yeah but

00:00:42.680 could they be curtailed it's possible the fcc might allow phone companies to stop those calls

00:00:47.740 so we won't have to be bothered by them anymore it'd be awesome in a way it's actually a removal

00:00:52.340 of a restriction on business too yeah because right now the phone companies can't prevent them

00:00:57.540 and then you'd say well now you can prevent them so maybe there's a free market argument for this

00:01:01.820 hopefully yes uh also we have uh the elizabeth warren and her new spending proposals which are going

00:01:09.040 to bankrupt the entire society uh but don't worry she's just going to raise taxes on the rich you

00:01:13.640 don't have to worry about it uh and uh a bizarre moment with ben carson who uh we'll play the audio

00:01:21.760 of it i don't even know what to say about that anymore i mean i it's a it's been a strange

00:01:26.800 strange journey with ben yes it has it's all coming up on today's podcast

00:01:31.360 the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment this is the glenbeck program today it's pat and stew for

00:01:41.400 glen from the glenbeck program as stew returns how was your time off good oh it was fantastic

00:01:47.740 all right good yourself how was your day they were all fantastic it was great to continue to

00:01:55.700 work i feel like i heard uh from basically every conversation i had while i was off the air was

00:02:01.340 about abortion oh really i mean at first you're like that doesn't lead to a lot of comfortable

00:02:06.280 conversations per se but maybe babies being alive is worth a couple uncomfortable conversations

00:02:12.140 that's kind of what i think yeah you know i feel like i have this weird urge to have babies be

00:02:18.900 alive for longer periods um maybe maybe babies could turn into children uh and if you know uh this pat

00:02:26.400 children are our future uh so that's important that's what i heard yeah uh also a lot of those

00:02:31.520 children are going to be women one day you think um so yeah do you have any evidence of that it does

00:02:36.620 seem to be a women's rights thing to me uh as well so we'll get into that and a lot more in 60 seconds

00:02:43.420 this is the glenbeck program uh church was uh defaced in delaware county which is is that is that

00:02:55.000 in pennsylvania delaware county it's in the philadelphia diocese all that um vandals tagged the

00:03:02.120 church with abortion rights graffiti saying you do not have the right to decide how others lives

00:03:08.960 that is a fair point you know i've been trying to figure out when others lives for many years

00:03:14.880 and you don't have the right to decide now we know that i can i can decide out for myself but i can't

00:03:20.380 put onto others when others lives right and that is i think the distinction they're looking for in

00:03:24.760 the graffiti i mean when you're writing this uh i can understand it when you screw up and speak it

00:03:30.460 live to somebody but when you're writing it um i'm not sure it makes a lot of sense to add the s there

00:03:36.280 it makes a lot of sense to try to do a draft of each uh each project you're going into in the

00:03:40.960 graffiti world yes if you're gonna deface churches right go to it go to a bridge first like under a

00:03:45.980 bridge where no one can see it and try out your message there see how it looks take a couple steps

00:03:51.320 back you know turn your iphone flashlight on it make sure it looks right then go to the church to

00:03:56.740 deface the church right how many times have we seen you know white supremacists screw up a swastika

00:04:01.340 on on on a on a church and then look you're just embarrassing if you're gonna put a swastika

00:04:07.020 on a religious establishment it's important to understand which ways the lines go how do you

00:04:11.980 expect you know to join your terrorist group exactly you can't even you can't even spell live i honestly

00:04:18.680 think half of these church burnings are just because they screwed up the graffiti and then they were

00:04:22.380 embarrassed about it and just burned the church down burn it is that's true it that's really

00:04:25.940 embarrassing i don't have science behind that one but i think that might be it might be to blame but

00:04:32.420 i think it might be onto something uh it you know even even at the churches now we're we're being

00:04:39.820 attacked for for believing in in life and you know it seems like life is something that would be okay to

00:04:46.120 to believe in the babies should be born it be be okay with most people and it apparently it's that's

00:04:53.160 not the case in the united states in the year 2019 uh it's not okay that you believe in life and want

00:05:00.140 babies to live yeah it was really interesting being off for a few days and talking to talking outside of

00:05:05.960 these walls because here we're we've talked about the life issue for a very long time and i'm sure you

00:05:10.600 know that if you listen but it's interesting how that's breaking through as far as the conversation

00:05:16.180 outside now i think it's it's one of the big political topics right now yeah which usually

00:05:21.120 means something bad you know like usually at the end of the day when you when a normal political

00:05:27.360 conversation turns into the conversation you're having outside in normal you know normal person-to-person

00:05:34.480 interaction a lot of times what it turns into is a non-stop politics for i mean good example of this

00:05:41.740 is uh the trade issue you know like for years and years and years it was unions and democrats saying

00:05:50.020 we need tariffs and restrictions on trade and republicans saying we don't need tariffs and we don't

00:05:55.460 want restrictions on trade we want free trade and that was sort of the wonky sort of um think tank

00:06:01.900 debate that went on for a really really long time and then donald trump has come out and he's

00:06:08.100 obviously much more friendly to tariffs and trade restrictions and now it just now it just turned into

00:06:14.900 teams you see the same people who were arguing unions and we need we absolutely need these tariffs we got

00:06:22.060 to stop these this free trade stuff that's all this you know crazy voodoo economics and all the stuff

00:06:26.960 that's going on the other side and uh and then now it's like well it's just become people who like

00:06:32.980 trump back him on it and people who don't like trump attack him on it it's just people have just switched

00:06:38.140 sides and i think when you define especially with someone like trump who's so good at like taking a an

00:06:43.720 issue and owning it you know he just is so he has such an ability to be able to just dominate

00:06:48.760 a conversation and people you see it on on cable news all the time they can't agree with anything

00:06:55.040 he says no matter what it is even if it's a position they've held for 50 years they can't

00:06:59.360 agree with him right so it just turns into this team thing and i'm afraid at some level that's

00:07:05.040 happening with abortion here where again like if you look at the polling on abortion this third

00:07:08.880 trimester abortion which has been the general focus of this debate is 84 to 14 against the american

00:07:15.560 people despise third term abortion they always have everyone knows it's a horrific horrific thing

00:07:21.820 84 of americans don't agree on the sky being blue yeah we're really almost nothing incredible

00:07:27.580 uh number of people to agree it's there's almost nothing in our political debate that is

00:07:33.600 so universal you could almost say that's unanimous that's every right thinking person in america yeah

00:07:39.060 believes that late term abortion isn't right and that's and that's not you know governor northam well

00:07:44.760 after they're born they'll make a decision on whether you keep them alive it's not even five minutes

00:07:49.320 before birth it's third trimester so you're talking you know what month seven you're like month seven

00:07:54.900 that's that's way earlier than the the types of things that democratic candidates are involved in

00:08:00.040 and think about this for a second you have an 80 of something that's unpopular with you know to the

00:08:05.880 level of 84 and the democrats have pulled out 24 candidates and not one of them will say that

00:08:15.780 that's wrong which is not one of them that's staggering staggering i mean i there's an argument

00:08:21.020 to be made and people who are pro-choice do make it in that essentially it's a slippery slope right

00:08:25.280 and and there's somewhat of an equivalency with like the second amendment argument like you there

00:08:31.420 probably is some sort of common sense restriction on guns that republicans could get on board on you

00:08:36.960 every once in a while you see like background checks and it pulls really well however you know

00:08:40.920 most people who really care about the second amendment are like look i don't want those things

00:08:44.360 because i can i know what you're doing you're going to take you're going to ask for one inch

00:08:47.820 you're going to take a mile and then you'll take 10 miles and you're seeing that right now and we're

00:08:51.020 seeing it right now you're seeing with beto o'rourke came out against all semi-automatic weapons

00:08:54.300 like these are things that are way beyond what they said they were asking for in the common sense

00:08:58.600 realm just a few months ago so as the second amendment guy and i'm not a huge gun guy but i'm a huge

00:09:03.980 second amendment guy uh i am uh and i know you're the same way i don't want to give one inch on any of

00:09:10.720 this stuff because you know they're coming for all of it so maybe that's the same thing with some

00:09:16.400 people on the abortion argument they think they're going to come for first you know first trimester

00:09:20.840 abortions so they defend to the death five minutes before uh you know birth abortions defend to the

00:09:27.680 death being pretty appropriate here um i just it's it's so incredibly unpopular second trimester

00:09:35.740 abortions are also incredibly unpopular to the i think it's a 37 point gap to the negative on uh

00:09:42.840 second trimester whether they should be allowed right they should everyone says second and third

00:09:46.940 trimester abortions should be illegal that's why the only one that pulls well is the first time

00:09:52.280 the first trimester and it's it's slightly positive however again like republicans in general and and

00:09:57.640 alabama is a is a an exception here as they were going after basically six weeks or so um most

00:10:03.540 republican states are asking for 20 week abortion bans that's the typical republican position

00:10:08.060 uh position interestingly though this week there was a poll uh that said 50 was it 55 percent of

00:10:15.560 americans uh are in favor of the heartbeat bills that's that's not i mean that's amazing yeah really i mean

00:10:24.640 it's but it's you wouldn't to listen to these democrats you wouldn't think that anyone anyone would

00:10:32.160 would be in favor of the heartbeat bill but 55 percent that's that's most americans that

00:10:39.140 as soon as you know there's a heartbeat you can't have an abortion uh that and and then you look at

00:10:46.660 that and then you see the stance of all of these candidates on the democrat side and it just doesn't

00:10:51.440 add up it just doesn't make any sense they can't find one i mean this is a party like you know one of

00:10:56.360 the biggest abortion rulings in the supreme court was casey um and you know this goes back to you

00:11:01.640 know years and years ago now but now you have a democratic senator all right named casey same

00:11:06.980 family and they can't find one candidate one candidate to come out i mean it used to be that

00:11:12.200 there were pro-life democrats this used to be something and while like it was always hard for

00:11:17.340 us to understand because how can you be on the side of the party that's fighting for unlimited

00:11:23.640 abortions they still had them now we're at the point where like you i mean you can't you can't

00:11:28.320 even can you even enter this race if you happen to be pro-life i don't think so i don't think you

00:11:32.920 can even enter it i don't know if you can enter the democrat party if you're pro-life yeah anymore

00:11:37.200 i don't see how they have it doesn't seem to be any place for a pro-life person in the democrat

00:11:41.480 party anymore yeah and you could say well it's just one issue i agree with them on these other things

00:11:45.140 and i i understand that instinct but when we're talking about live and how many millions 60 million

00:11:51.240 uh like 62 million now 62 million people that should be living aren't right because of this

00:11:58.940 one policy it's a pretty big deal and if you believe it's it's not it it's a big deal at some

00:12:05.420 level if you're on the left right because you you think of it as a cultural issue you think of it as

00:12:09.580 well i mean i don't think many people actually believe it's women's rights but it's at least a

00:12:14.060 stand-in for women's rights right no one because no one cares what you do to your body if it doesn't

00:12:18.380 affect another life uh it's only a matter of if another person's rights are affected

00:12:22.540 but you know it's a stand-in for women's rights kind of a generic summary of of women's rights

00:12:28.580 and it's something that they say they need to defend so at some level it's important to the

00:12:32.360 left but it's really more of just a cultural issue to the right we're talking about people living and

00:12:36.320 dying and if you're saying that this is an actual life it obviously has to be the most important

00:12:41.400 thing right if if if the end of this is 60 million people that should be alive aren't

00:12:46.560 what other policy has that effect on anything i mean you know we've made this point before pat that

00:12:51.440 we could probably come in here every day and we would bore the hell out of you in the audience but

00:12:57.560 we could come in here every day and talk about abortion and our ratings would be like 0.004 however

00:13:04.800 morally i could be completely content with that i could be completely content with that because that's

00:13:10.800 i mean there's no other issue with the possible exception and it's a much larger and more difficult

00:13:16.880 road of just generally speaking capitalism right because capitalism really has ripped billions of

00:13:22.340 people out of poverty and you can make the argument that it's even more important i guess

00:13:25.540 but when you're talking about just a law that could be changed a ruling that could be changed

00:13:30.420 that could just protect millions and millions of lives there's just nothing that competes with

00:13:34.840 abortion it's it's it's the most simple road to keep tens of millions of people which are

00:13:40.780 also will grow up to be women will grow up to be minorities will grow up to be uh will have

00:13:46.000 different sexual orientations well every single men many of them probably you know just because of

00:13:52.180 the fact that planned parenthood just loves to target inner city neighborhoods probably most of them

00:13:57.240 wind up voting for democrats like this is an argument in which republicans are just on

00:14:02.260 are are saying please lord god let us give you more voters right right how many of them would

00:14:07.440 have been out of 62 million people could one of them have been another einstein absolutely one of

00:14:12.780 them have been another madam curie yeah could one of them have cured cancer and many of them yes and

00:14:18.940 here's the thing maybe 10 million of them would have been awful right they still had a they still

00:14:24.040 should have the chance to be good right right they could all be the most annoying they could all be

00:14:28.240 the people who are programming the robocalls like i don't care if all of them all 60 million got into

00:14:34.380 the robocall industry they still deserve the right to life but okay

00:14:38.540 kirsten gillibrand was talking about abortion yesterday um you have basic civil rights uh here

00:14:48.820 she was on msnbc what would you say to taxpayers out there who say look i support everyone having their

00:14:54.880 own freedoms but that when it comes to my tax dollars abortion isn't something that i want to

00:14:58.900 support you know uh we have a tenant in our constitution it's called separation of church and

00:15:04.700 state oh really and uh i do not believe that that is a valid argument i think that the high amendment

00:15:10.820 should be repealed and that we actually need to make sure that women regardless of their income level

00:15:15.780 have a basic right to reproductive care it's about our humanity and it's about our basic civil rights

00:15:21.380 a basic right to reproductive care well it's in the constitution pat uh-huh and when i say in it

00:15:27.400 it's i think it's on the back and a fold it's folded and on it so if you open up visible ink

00:15:32.260 it is i think you have to heat it up like they did on uh on uh what was that what was that nicholas

00:15:37.580 cage movie oh national treasure yeah national treasure got to take a blow dryer and you got to be

00:15:43.040 really careful though a little lemon juice on it yep and then the blow dryer and it'll show up

00:15:47.620 amazing the founders predicted the blow dryer right which is i thought pretty impressive

00:15:51.200 because they didn't even have a lot of electricity at the time i think some of them assumed you could

00:15:56.020 just do it with your hot breath but then other founders said no they're going to invent something

00:15:59.960 eventually where they can dry their hair really quick i think that'll do the job because uh the

00:16:05.700 separation of church and state not in the constitution not in the constitution it was in a letter

00:16:09.740 yes thomas jefferson in 1803 to a baptist minister in connecticut uh who was asking about uh you

00:16:17.500 know hey uh are we going to be in trouble here with the uh with the state because we're not of

00:16:22.360 the state religion and that's where that's where it came in so you've got to separate it's a

00:16:29.640 protection against the religion not the government you don't have to protect the state from religion

00:16:35.240 that's pretty incredible it's really the exact reverse the exact opposite of the way it's talked

00:16:39.620 about now um and the fact that a senator who's running for president is not aware that the separation

00:16:45.580 of church and state is in the constitution is or is not in the constitution it's pretty stunning

00:16:50.700 in a normal time with this field that's not stunning at all because i got i mean there are 24

00:16:58.100 candidates up there now bill de blasio getting in uh while i was on vacation you haven't even

00:17:02.580 moved him over on the board yet he's still on our on the fence list he's pretty hacked off about

00:17:06.980 that yeah yeah that was a big part of his initial press conference why am i why have i not been

00:17:11.020 moved on on the glenn beck presidential board uh but you know the fact that she doesn't even know

00:17:16.260 that and then you realize when they talk when people on the left talk about abortion you just

00:17:22.160 realize they're just saying things that that don't make any sense right like you know uh this sort of

00:17:28.460 prenatal like reproductive health care concept like there's a reason you have to make up a fake term

00:17:36.080 for it we all know it's not reproductive health care that is not what an abortion is reproductive

00:17:41.600 health care might mean making sure you have the right nutrients and vitamins if you have a there's

00:17:45.940 an issue with uh you know morning sickness reproductive health care absolutely postpartum depression

00:17:51.340 reproductive health care i'm willing to go to any of those so i mean yeah that's that makes sense

00:17:55.960 obviously the the baby itself whether you're having a internal lady issue whatever they whatever the

00:18:01.660 issue just killing the baby is not reproductive health it is not that's not what it is right

00:18:07.620 because it's it's not healthy for the baby i don't know if people are aware of that that that's not

00:18:12.200 health care when you're killing someone no no i mean just like just like you know assisted suicide

00:18:17.060 comes around and it's like well uh should people be able to kill themselves we made the point it's

00:18:21.080 very difficult to prevent them to right it's really like you can make all the laws you want saying

00:18:25.320 you don't kill yourself what are you going to do afterwards you get find the guy you're going to give

00:18:28.880 him a ticket after they're dead like i generally speaking it's difficult uh to stop people from

00:18:33.860 killing themselves but we the reproductive health care having a doctor come in and keep you uh out of

00:18:41.060 pain with certain drugs uh all that can be defined as health care actually killing the patient cannot be

00:18:47.220 defined as health care like that's just not health care it's not ending lives is not health care

00:18:53.640 it's not what it is it's something else and you might like it but it's still not health care and

00:18:58.580 they just say reproductive health care they say women's rights because these are stand-ins for the

00:19:03.100 terrible thing that they're arguing for also prenatal care is not something that planned

00:19:07.020 parenthood even does no they don't even do prenatal health care they don't do the cancer screenings they

00:19:11.520 don't do breast cancer screenings they can refer you to get one which is really helpful but they don't

00:19:16.420 they don't do mammograms and we hear that all the time well you're cutting off people's ability to get

00:19:21.200 a mammogram they don't even do them you can't even get one there and it's like planned parenthood is

00:19:28.780 the only place on earth that does health care which they don't really do at all and now it's

00:19:34.820 the opposite they've put in the in people's minds that that's the only place anybody can get it done

00:19:40.440 yeah it's like uh i always make this argument with people who bring up the health care thing

00:19:43.680 if you ever go to a kfc and taco bell you know they they're combined there there's no yeah and

00:19:50.380 taco bell well and i love uh i'm a big taco bell guy let's say i'm against kfc and i love taco bell

00:19:56.920 well if they separated them into two restaurants i would just go to the taco bell one right so if

00:20:01.420 you're playing parenthood just separate all your wonderful health care things from abortion and see

00:20:05.360 how much people protest i'll give you a news not at all they're not going to say one freaking word

00:20:09.700 about the taco bell side of that they're just going to protest the kfc side of it and that is

00:20:14.320 the thing it's like if you stopped doing abortions you get all the funding that every other women's

00:20:19.040 health care clinic gets it's just about that and we all know for you it's just about that as well

00:20:25.120 legislation is uh passing through congress right now to stop tech companies from tracking our on

00:20:39.460 line uh surfing and it's getting some momentum i guess as congress is trying to crack down now on

00:20:47.080 big tech's privacy practices on tuesday senator josh holly unveiled a do not track bill with some tough

00:20:56.080 penalties for companies who break the protections and that revives it revives a debate over whether

00:21:01.980 users should be allowed to opt out of the tracking and data collection uh i think you should be

00:21:08.640 allowed to opt out in fact you should have to opt into it i hate the opt out thing because a lot

00:21:14.760 of times you don't know what you're opting out of you didn't even know you needed to opt out of

00:21:19.760 something yeah i i had an issue with um my yahoo mail accounts that i started for my children

00:21:25.640 yeah so i started them when they were born i started email addresses and i was emailing them

00:21:30.140 little pieces of advice and videos and pictures of like things that we did when they were too young

00:21:34.700 that is adorable i am adorable and i know this like that um however it was less adorable when

00:21:40.480 they just deleted the accounts for no reason um and i lost all the stuff that i sent oh wow now i

00:21:45.600 say all and everyone wow points this out on social media and i i appreciate you coming to my rescue

00:21:50.240 here there are some that i can save because i sent them from my sent accounts however it wasn't just

00:21:54.740 me who was doing it was other relatives and things i mean it's really annoying and and just to

00:21:59.580 try to repurpose it all back together it'll be better than nothing um did you ever find out why that

00:22:03.880 happened yes i did that yes i did it's just there in black and white uh-huh it was there in black

00:22:07.580 and white that's that's what the customer service representative told me it's there in black and

00:22:10.660 white okay in the uh the very lengthy agreement that i signed on to when i opened the account

00:22:17.960 except when i pressed accept and did not of course read it because no human being on earth has ever read

00:22:23.420 one of these documents uh the terms and conditions did apply to me and because i didn't log in

00:22:29.340 unfrequently enough now of course it's not my it's an account for my kids not for me

00:22:33.160 right and i i signed up with and they had give you a say hey if we need to contact you uh what are your

00:22:39.860 other email addresses what's your phone number i put all that information in thinking that if there

00:22:43.800 was an issue i would get an alert came to the other account and said hey uh you know you haven't

00:22:47.900 logged in and too long of a period of time or whatever is in this agreement you signed you got no

00:22:51.740 such no nothing so they just they just deleted them all and and this is the thing like you

00:22:57.340 you you probably can opt out of it and the way you opt out is not using them right like that is that

00:23:03.520 is the current thing if you don't you don't have to as you would know pat you don't have to use

00:23:07.360 facebook this is something that americans now believe that is a requirement of their life

00:23:11.460 you can get through it without facebook without twitter without instagram it's possible to live

00:23:16.180 it is possible and i do think that makes me a little nervous when we talk about new legislation and

00:23:22.340 controls on these companies in that you know there's a difference between what is a right

00:23:29.760 and what is just awesome and the internet is like one of those things that's just awesome it's not

00:23:34.180 your right to be on the internet it's not you want to pass a constitutional amendment that says it is

00:23:38.400 go ahead try it you can you might might even get it through i mean i think probably republicans and

00:23:42.340 democrats probably agree that access to the internet should be some way should be right maybe they

00:23:47.140 would be able to get that through but for right now a company can essentially say if you want to do

00:23:51.280 business with us you live by our rules and we're going to track you and we're going to track you

00:23:55.940 and that's that's the reason why this service is free like it's almost like they should say if you

00:24:00.460 want to pay 9.95 a month for facebook then we won't track you at all and that actually might be a

00:24:06.060 place that makes sense in the middle because you know i wouldn't pay 9.95 for facebook because i don't

00:24:10.460 care about it however if i did care about it i might do that to avoid the tracking i might say you know

00:24:16.960 what fine i'll pay 9.95 a month and don't track me problem is so many other things

00:24:21.240 are tracking you anyway you know and i understand so i understand this approach google right doesn't

00:24:26.600 google keep track of virtually everything we do online yeah i mean if you use their browser i know

00:24:31.760 i love that because people are like well i i i i'm able to block this because i'm but i'm using

00:24:36.140 using google's i don't use any glenn used to say this i don't use any google products i don't use

00:24:40.980 any gmail or any of that i don't use google maps none of it because i know i don't want google

00:24:44.720 tracking me what browser do you use chrome how do you search uh google but in fact i don't even

00:24:52.680 call it search i call it googling and really what are you going to search with lycos ask jeez it's

00:24:59.180 always ask jeez man i mean here's a nice guy you know who promises never to track you he's a butler

00:25:03.660 jeeves doesn't care about where you're going online he's just a nice guy he's not trying to sell

00:25:08.960 you a bunch of stuff yeah and i will say before before you do it uh duck duck go is another is a

00:25:15.280 thing that uh that will search for you and and apparently not track you however if you're using it

00:25:19.680 on chrome you may have an issue right yes duck duck go is is the big one the privacy-based search

00:25:26.760 engine that a lot of people will point to and it does seem to work actually pretty well it's not

00:25:30.040 like it's not like ask jeez which i'm sure is great there's still no search engine really that

00:25:35.940 can compete with google right even bling is or bing or whatever that is i mean bing i've tried

00:25:41.820 it a few times and it's just it's not well yeah it's just not google and are you really that excited

00:25:46.640 about being tracked by microsoft instead of google like it's not really get you let's get me hot i'll

00:25:51.100 say that and so you know it's like you want someone you have to almost go with a privacy-based

00:25:55.440 one that's doing it just for that and even then yeah you're still getting tracked at some level by

00:25:59.620 somebody else your ip company uh you know it's funny because they they've been talking about the way

00:26:04.200 these things develop and so so many of them are you know are able to skate through all of these

00:26:10.900 rules yeah i mean as the as the technology develops it's developed so quickly they they can't keep up

00:26:16.280 with with with all the rules now that's a good reason why it's been so great that's why the

00:26:20.620 internet has been so great they haven't been victimized by the business regulation that every

00:26:25.440 other business it's been largely left alone yeah it's kind of the wild wild west still and the

00:26:30.000 negatives do exist at the trackings there there there are some negatives to that but overall

00:26:34.780 i don't think it's a pretty good experience yeah um and maybe you know because these are private

00:26:39.560 companies maybe i shouldn't want the government to get involved in uh cracking down on their tracking

00:26:45.120 um but i do want them to it's just one of those things that's annoying enough it is to just want

00:26:53.000 anyway and the other thing i want is for them to stop the robo calls on my cell phone it it used to

00:27:00.920 be that your cell phone i thought was like sacrosanct in in that regard that they couldn't they couldn't

00:27:06.600 call your cell phone and i think that's when it cost you money when people call you uh when they called

00:27:11.960 but that doesn't seem to be the case anymore so uh that opened up the floodgates of robo calls and

00:27:18.340 spammers and spammers and scammers and they're trying to the fcc is about to allow the phone

00:27:25.820 companies to not complete those calls which would be fantastic now will some dolphins get caught up in

00:27:33.580 that tuna net where some people that want to complete a call to you are not able to uh i'm sure

00:27:38.940 that'll happen yeah there's like debt collectors they're all upset about this well we we gotta

00:27:43.820 get a hold of our debtors and bother them well okay but um uh maybe you shouldn't maybe you

00:27:52.560 shouldn't be placing that many calls uh at a time that that the uh that the software thinks you're a

00:27:57.820 you're a spammer um i don't know maybe maybe leave people alone a little bit well how am i going to

00:28:03.240 collect my debt i don't know but i want the spam to stop i just i don't know how to fix it for the

00:28:08.520 debt collectors but i want the well in fact i got a couple examples um that i've had just recently

00:28:15.440 on my on my cell phone and they do leave messages if you don't answer they'll they'll leave you

00:28:20.880 messages um and a lot and sometimes it's in chinese have you ever gotten the calls the spammers from

00:28:25.580 in chinese i have not had that no i get these all the time though and my god i get something

00:28:30.780 about a warranty they want to give me for my car you get that one all the time people drive me out

00:28:36.580 of my mind i'm not gonna fall for this but i know but of course this is the type of thing that they

00:28:41.760 don't need a person who's listening to talk radio to fall for it they need the person who's who barely

00:28:47.640 knows how to press buttons on their phone to fall for it the person who's 75 or 80 and doesn't really

00:28:52.020 understand the uh how it works with spam and scam calls yeah and when you get this kind of call

00:28:59.720 sometimes it can be scary to people and once it get expired after that you will be taken under custody

00:29:04.960 by the local police can you believe that they were going to take me under custody oh my gosh by

00:29:09.200 the local police in my area in my local area they were those police now they didn't bother to tell

00:29:15.880 you what area that was they didn't tell me what because you know it you're you're local so you know

00:29:20.600 the local area i know which police office is go is which department is going to come after me right

00:29:25.400 i know as there are four serious allegations pressed on your name at this moment oh my gosh serious

00:29:31.340 allegations pressed on my name how many allegations do you have pressed on your name i would assume

00:29:36.300 it's not four it's not four it's got to be one or two maybe pressed against my name i've conducted so

00:29:42.100 much illegal activity that there's four allegations pressed on my name so we would request you to get

00:29:47.740 back to us well yeah that we can discuss about this case before taking any legal action against you

00:29:53.560 oh that's scary to reach us is five one eight six one five seven nine eight zero i only encourage

00:30:01.900 everyone to call that only everyone she's they're going to repeat it so if you missed it the first

00:30:10.100 okay good five one eight five one eight six one five six one five seven nine eight zero seven nine

00:30:17.180 eight zero so they want they want you to call so i would and then there was there was uh this

00:30:22.300 particular call just this very time sensitive and urgent that i do hear back from you before

00:30:27.320 we proceed further with suspension of your social and assets can you believe they're going to suspend

00:30:32.220 my social your social is going to be completely suspended suspended oh my gosh and my assets

00:30:37.360 now i i don't know what social of mine my twitter account uh my facebook what's social my social

00:30:44.520 security number you suspend a social security number just my social so my direct call back

00:30:51.220 number is three eight six three eight six two four three seven eight six five again seven eight six

00:30:58.140 five she's going to say it again three eight six three eight six four three seven eight six five i

00:31:03.880 would say here because look they are soliciting calls to this number but there's a reason they're

00:31:08.940 soliciting calls so that's right you may not want to not you may not you may not want to call uh because

00:31:13.200 it's not going to annoy them it's going to wind up putting you on a list and then you're going to get

00:31:16.680 these calls so so you may want to hesitate before you actually call some way that they get that they

00:31:22.840 scam money out of you when you do call yeah there's i can't remember what podcast it was

00:31:27.240 one of these podcasts that looks into strange things and technology i want to say it was reply all but i

00:31:32.060 don't remember which one it was anyway they looked into these robo calls and tried to track the source

00:31:36.760 of them which was pretty interesting um because there was a one guy who's working at a company

00:31:42.060 um and i want to say it was i want to say it was trip advisor or yelp okay it was one of those like

00:31:49.780 review companies and they were having issues because legitimate resorts were like getting

00:31:56.060 terrible reviews on i think it was trip advisor and they were getting these reviews because

00:32:01.740 spam people like this were calling with robo calls and saying you should call us back and

00:32:07.260 and book your free vacation to blank resort and so people would hear that would call and of course

00:32:14.020 it was a scam they just redirected them to try to buy some expensive vacation to another crappy resort

00:32:18.680 completely unrelated it was they were using a big name resort to cover the fraud and then the real

00:32:25.500 company was getting the bad reviews because people were thinking they're all they're just screwing me

00:32:29.780 wow so they went to try to find this and they tracked it down you know to these companies in mexico

00:32:34.900 and in central america that were using like one guy in like his living room in the united states to

00:32:42.660 make like hundreds of millions of robo calls wow and you know the guy wound up getting in a lot of

00:32:49.940 trouble uh because he did violate all sorts of laws and seemingly just acted his excuse was essentially

00:32:55.900 i didn't really know you know sorry no i didn't i didn't know work with me no is he on death row

00:33:02.940 i don't think he is was he he didn't get the death penalty he did i don't think he got the death

00:33:07.720 penalty that's wrong almost it was close it's just people hate those things man oh

00:33:12.500 so the guy who was responsible for all those hundreds of millions of robo calls you found out

00:33:24.580 what they he did not get the death penalty no right he's not on death row i believe he was fined

00:33:29.820 120 million dollars though oh that's a good start which is a significant amount that's a

00:33:34.340 that's a significant amount of money a notable amount of money yes um this is it was actually

00:33:39.720 now that i'm remembering it it was a story from wired.com perhaps the best part of the story is

00:33:46.400 the guy who uncovered the giant robo call scam his name was fred garvin if you know fred garvin

00:33:52.720 male prostitute from the saturday night live yes fred garvin male prostitute uh that was dan

00:33:59.060 ackroyd's bit in like the 70s yeah uh maybe 80s was it his real name uh it's his real name i guess

00:34:05.980 it's okay it's or i think it was fred garvin no maybe it wasn't his real name i can't remember

00:34:10.380 they because he's this guy's become like the the robo call hunter because he found this this one

00:34:15.700 particular guy but he had made over a hundred million phone calls robo calls and was fined 120 million

00:34:22.220 dollars was dragged in front of congress i'll tweet the article out uh while you're being tracked by

00:34:27.180 your uh all of your technology yes you can now be tracked to look at a an article with a guy whose

00:34:33.340 name is the same as a male prostitute so i don't know what that's going to do to your future employment

00:34:37.160 prospects but read it anyway it's really fascinating because i mean you just you realize that like

00:34:42.600 it's almost impossible for them to stop it because you're talking they can create number fake numbers

00:34:49.700 they can you know they can yeah they roll over i mean as soon as you as soon as you uh block one

00:34:55.580 call it just rolls over to the next number yeah and the way they had to do it was the guy signed up for

00:34:59.960 like as many shady lists as he could with his cell phone and then hoped he would get robo calls and

00:35:04.680 started recording the robo calls so that he could try to track them because it could give you legitimate

00:35:08.560 numbers you can call which then forwards you to some offshore you know phone bank where they don't even

00:35:15.680 know necessarily where the call came from they don't know that you were told that you're going to get

00:35:19.700 they just know sell them this timeshare right like they they it's like people there's all these

00:35:25.360 disconnected pieces not everyone knows uh which part is which the guy at the end of the the road

00:35:30.980 might not even know if what he's selling is real or not and they might not even be in the country

00:35:36.320 so how do you even track it down it's just it's one of these things that i think like it feels good

00:35:40.860 for uh legislators to try to come up with a rule to stop it because it's so freaking annoying yes it is

00:35:47.800 in the end of the day though are they going to be able to stop someone in you know bangladesh

00:35:52.200 and that's the thing so many of them are overseas yeah so many of them are out of the country and

00:35:56.320 you can tell when they say things like and once it get expired after that you will be taken under

00:36:00.980 custody by you'll be taken under custody local police by local there are four serious allegations

00:36:06.580 pressed on your name when they say things like they're going to be four serious allegations pressed

00:36:10.880 on your name you know they're probably not english speakers so it's coming from somewhere else it's

00:36:16.680 funny though and you can disregard it they say that uh you know the whole scam when it comes to

00:36:21.720 um the nigerian prince situation you know and i don't if you're in the middle of a negotiation with

00:36:27.900 a nigerian prince i don't want to i don't i mean maybe yours is real i don't know like i usually though

00:36:34.540 the nigerian prince did not just fall out of power and have a hundred billion dollars he wants to split

00:36:38.820 with you really yeah it's usually not the way it works um and and a lot of times you get those emails

00:36:43.760 and you read them you're like how could anyone fall for this like they're not even spelling the

00:36:48.720 words right they're not in the right order you know like i get the idea that like he's supposed

00:36:53.260 to be a nigerian prince so maybe he wouldn't have perfect english uh but you get you get the thing of

00:36:58.120 like if you're going to make a multi-million dollar transaction with someone you've never met perhaps

00:37:02.600 they should know the language a little a little bit perhaps perhaps yeah and so you think why do they

00:37:07.240 why can't they even take the time to spell the words right why can't they even take the time

00:37:12.300 to understand the language well enough and there's a very specific reason why they do that

00:37:16.780 is because anyone with any sense is not going to fall for this so the the the calculation by the

00:37:24.980 people in doing the nigerian scam they don't need to right speak perfect english right well and more

00:37:30.240 than that they actually intentionally will not speak perfect english they intentionally will spell

00:37:35.720 words wrong because only a person who would think a multi-million dollar transaction is about to

00:37:41.280 happen with a guy who can't spell half the email correctly only that person who's gullible enough

00:37:47.280 to think that is going to actually go through with the whole scam the person who is smart enough to

00:37:51.660 say i'm not going to answer this because they can't even spell the the words right that person isn't

00:37:56.360 going to fall for the scam so they wind up wasting their time true sorting out people who are interested

00:38:01.840 or are trolling them or are uh just you know interested enough to make that first outreach

00:38:10.120 but not interested enough to go to their bank account and give bank account numbers out they

00:38:13.880 need the person who's gullible enough to think well this nigerian prince out of nowhere emailed me

00:38:19.260 unsolicited can't speak the language can't spell the words however let me give them my bank account

00:38:23.880 number that's the person they need because that person is the person who's going through with the

00:38:28.000 whole thing and it's fascinating because i think a lot of that happens with these robocalls too

00:38:32.100 they're so bad but if you hear someone saying you're about to get arrested by local police

00:38:36.140 or excuse me uh you're under what was it under uh let's see it's uh and once it get expired after

00:38:43.840 that you will be taken under custody under custody take it under custody yeah maybe those are the

00:38:48.560 people that actually fall for it

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