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00:00:00.000 Welcome to the podcast, it's Pat and Stu, and for Glenn, today we go over the American Taliban. 0.72

00:00:05.340 John Walker Lynn, who we thought was a big-time terrorist and should be in prison forever, at the very least,

00:00:10.760 is going to be getting out. You'll be seeing him at your local Taco Bell.

00:00:15.780 It's going to be a fantastic thing.

00:00:17.760 But the good thing is, his viewpoints really haven't changed.

00:00:20.740 No, that's the really scary part.

00:00:22.780 I'm sure they're going to watch him, though, right?

00:00:24.760 Oh, sure, like a hawk for three years, they say, so that should be great.

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00:02:41.180 American Taliban was just released.

00:02:43.020 So that's exciting news because I'm pretty sure he's totally reformed.

00:02:46.920 Totally reformed.

00:02:47.620 Are you?

00:02:48.140 Well, no.

00:02:49.020 I'm not as sure.

00:02:50.340 But there seems to be a little doubt.

00:02:52.160 Yeah.

00:02:52.600 There seems to be a little teeny bit.

00:02:55.600 Now, they're releasing him early.

00:02:57.440 So really, you have to release him after 20 years because that's what he was sentenced

00:03:01.160 to, right?

00:03:01.700 And no matter how he feels after those 20 years, you still have to let him go.

00:03:06.020 Yeah.

00:03:06.240 I guess that's true.

00:03:07.320 You don't really have to be reformed.

00:03:09.600 Don't have to be.

00:03:10.480 If you go through your entire sentence, right?

00:03:14.140 I mean, if you're...

00:03:14.860 We don't like to think you would be or are.

00:03:16.960 It's kind of the point of it.

00:03:18.020 Yeah.

00:03:18.320 Right?

00:03:18.560 But I guess if you come out...

00:03:20.400 Can they keep you in prison if you get sentenced to 20 years and you say, you know what?

00:03:25.440 I still pretty much like terrorism.

00:03:27.060 I guess I won't do it, maybe.

00:03:28.680 But I'm still advocating for it.

00:03:30.740 And then it comes to the end of their term.

00:03:32.100 Can they just...

00:03:32.580 I guess they just have to let you out?

00:03:34.000 I think so.

00:03:35.520 Yeah.

00:03:35.840 Because it does not seem like he's reformed.

00:03:37.000 I mean, they're...

00:03:37.340 No.

00:03:37.560 And it's only 17 years.

00:03:38.980 So they could keep him in there three years longer.

00:03:41.680 Which it feels like there are certain crimes, Pat, in which you just don't get out of prison.

00:03:48.560 Mm-hmm.

00:03:48.840 Okay?

00:03:49.140 And it's a small subset for me.

00:03:52.840 I'll give you an example.

00:03:53.860 John Hinckley. 0.85

00:03:55.240 You go and you shoot the President of the United States over Jodie Foster. 0.98

00:04:01.360 I'm never letting you out of prison. 0.96

00:04:02.880 Well, you're pretty picky.

00:04:04.040 And yet he's like visiting his parents on the weekends.

00:04:06.000 And he's out, right?

00:04:07.100 I mean, like, you know...

00:04:08.000 Yeah.

00:04:08.720 That, I feel like there's a line there.

00:04:11.020 Another one is treason against your country.

00:04:13.260 If you're going and you're fighting for an opposing force in a war, you just...

00:04:18.100 I don't know.

00:04:18.720 20 years doesn't seem appropriate to me.

00:04:21.800 And the fact that he's only served 17 is kind of a big deal.

00:04:26.640 And then going on, going past that, it doesn't seem like he's reformed at all.

00:04:31.140 And you get these stories every once in a while.

00:04:32.600 And we've had people on the show in past years who used to be terrorists and seemingly had reformed and were now speaking out against terrorism.

00:04:41.360 Like, there's a few people who have actually been on the show that have kind of meet that profile.

00:04:46.000 But that's not what John Walker-Lind is doing here.

00:04:48.840 No.

00:04:49.160 I mean, it appears as if he's still kind of excited about the whole terrorist thing.

00:04:55.460 What was it he said in 2015 about ISIS?

00:04:58.540 2015, he said that ISIS was doing a, quote, spectacular job after it beheaded a U.S. journalist.

00:05:06.380 Now, I will say, if the job description was, please, when hired, you will need to behead a U.S. journalist,

00:05:16.160 technically, I guess they were doing a spectacular job.

00:05:18.920 They got that job done.

00:05:20.000 Though that's not how I would describe it.

00:05:21.720 No.

00:05:22.140 I feel like maybe you have a little bit more hesitation in your praise.

00:05:26.000 So you might think, okay, well, that was 2015.

00:05:28.780 In May of 2016, Lind continued to advocate for global jihad and to write and translate violent extremist texts.

00:05:36.780 He also told a TV news producer he will continue to spread violent extremism and violent extremist Islam upon his release.

00:05:47.840 I mean, that doesn't seem good to me.

00:05:51.420 Why are we letting this guy go early?

00:05:55.100 That's bizarre.

00:05:57.820 I just don't understand it.

00:05:59.140 I mean, it's one of those things that, like, this is a difficult, like, thing to figure out how to deal with a terrorist in these situations.

00:06:09.060 Like, we're talking about the ISIS wives, right? 0.98

00:06:12.780 These women, they go over, they get married off into ISIS. 0.99

00:06:15.160 God only knows what happens to them for multiple years.

00:06:17.740 Then they all feel kind of bad about it.

00:06:19.600 Like, you know, hey, like, I was young.

00:06:22.580 I needed the money.

00:06:24.680 I just thought it would be fun.

00:06:26.160 Yeah, I thought it would be fun.

00:06:27.320 And, like, some of them, like, they're like, well, I was shocked to see in person them burning these people alive in these cages because it felt so much different than when I watched the video on YouTube of them burning them alive in these cages.

00:06:40.900 And you're like, I can't give you that one.

00:06:43.660 No.

00:06:44.180 And so the conversation has been, do we bring the ISIS wives back to the United States and have them tried? 0.99

00:06:51.920 And they want to come back.

00:06:52.460 Yeah, they should stand trial for treason.

00:06:54.760 And I feel like most shows that I've heard on the conservative sort of side or people writing about it have said, no, like, these people are, it's a war and they're on the other side of this war and they should be treated like anybody else is on the other side of the war, which I think is a legitimate position.

00:07:10.600 And, like, it's hard to envision a more clear example of treason than going over and assisting ISIS in the middle of a war against us.

00:07:33.040 Mm-hmm.

00:07:33.540 Right?

00:07:33.760 Like, I just, I mean, how do you get more clear than this?

00:07:36.580 And yet we will not, we never use it.

00:07:39.280 We've just basically, we've all decided, you know what, that part of our history, you know what, it's like Halloween 3 season of The Witch, just not part of the series.

00:07:49.200 We're just going to ignore that it happened.

00:07:50.880 All the other ones are Michael Myers.

00:07:52.240 There's this one where masks attack everybody's head on Halloween.

00:07:55.480 And it was, you know, maybe not the best movie in the world.

00:07:57.900 But that's the only one we're just going to kind of just disregard.

00:08:02.040 We're just going to say, no, that one didn't happen.

00:08:03.380 That was not part of the series.

00:08:04.580 And, like, this, like, treason?

00:08:05.760 What?

00:08:06.080 I don't even know what that is.

00:08:07.140 Yeah.

00:08:07.540 I mean, it's so clear.

00:08:08.940 Even Walker Lind wasn't even charged with treason.

00:08:11.180 Right.

00:08:11.920 And that's the problem.

00:08:12.760 If you had turned up with treason, he would not be out of prison right now.

00:08:16.180 You know, this is the type of thing that is, they call for potentially execution for this.

00:08:21.780 This is a death penalty situation and should be treated as such.

00:08:26.880 If you are going to go, and remember, it's not just that he went and fought with the Taliban.

00:08:32.220 He also was involved in the death of the first American serviceman in the Afghanistan war.

00:08:38.940 A guy, Mike Spann, who was a CIA member, who was killed in a prison riot.

00:08:45.560 And that prison riot was involving this guy who's about to walk free.

00:08:50.480 I mean, how is that?

00:08:51.600 It's pretty serious.

00:08:51.980 It's certainly not justice.

00:08:53.720 But it's amazing because of his frequently reported comments that he has not reformed.

00:09:00.900 That he wants to continue to do these things.

00:09:02.860 And they're like, there's a very, very strict release policy, Pat.

00:09:06.740 Very, very strict.

00:09:07.700 I don't know if you've heard this.

00:09:08.940 But he, first of all, is going to be monitored by parole officers.

00:09:14.600 Now, that's number one.

00:09:15.620 Whoa.

00:09:15.760 And I want you to think about how serious that is.

00:09:17.980 Okay.

00:09:18.400 He's going to be monitored by parole officers.

00:09:20.460 And number two, yes, he can go on the internet.

00:09:25.580 Yes, he can communicate with whoever he wants to.

00:09:28.700 But only in English.

00:09:31.400 Yeah, this guy, I think, speaks Arabic or whatever.

00:09:36.420 What is it?

00:09:38.620 So he can only...

00:09:39.860 He can't speak that online.

00:09:41.660 He can only do extreme Islam jihad in English. 0.98

00:09:45.540 Yes.

00:09:46.120 He has to do it in English.

00:09:48.440 Now, if they said he had to do it in haiku, I might say, okay, that's pretty difficult.

00:09:51.700 Because he's going to have to continually write haikus. 0.99

00:09:54.380 But no, this is he...

00:09:55.900 It's legitimately part of his release.

00:09:58.740 That's bizarre.

00:09:59.200 He can't do...

00:09:59.840 He can't speak any other languages.

00:10:02.020 Has to only speak English.

00:10:03.980 Now, I mean, I...

00:10:05.240 I guess that's a limitation.

00:10:08.240 Because we're, what, too lazy to translate what he's typing?

00:10:10.640 What do we...

00:10:11.740 And the fact that he's able to actually communicate with other people.

00:10:15.280 I mean, you know...

00:10:16.640 He's on the internet.

00:10:17.800 Why is he on the internet at all?

00:10:19.300 Again, when he went to prison, the internet barely worked.

00:10:22.340 Okay?

00:10:22.680 He's got to get out of here.

00:10:23.500 Imagine...

00:10:23.980 I mean, now he can go anywhere he wants.

00:10:25.700 He gets the nice 4G or, you know, soon 5G access.

00:10:29.840 Got Wi-Fi everywhere.

00:10:31.120 Back...

00:10:31.320 He's almost in dial-up days when he got in prison.

00:10:35.060 I don't know.

00:10:35.620 It just seems like a completely crazy idea to let him out.

00:10:39.000 Yeah, it does.

00:10:39.700 Especially since he's not...

00:10:40.960 He hasn't reformed at all.

00:10:43.000 And that's...

00:10:43.920 It's pretty clear by his statements.

00:10:45.100 Although, he did make an interesting statement to the parole board.

00:10:53.420 He made a 14-minute speech that included,

00:10:57.700 Had I realized then what I know now about the Taliban, 0.92

00:11:00.140 I would never have joined them.

00:11:01.520 I never understood Jihad to mean anti-Americanism or terrorism.

00:11:06.040 But then, you know, okay, so that's what he said to get out of jail early.

00:11:09.340 And then you look at everything else he has said leading up to that.

00:11:15.180 It just looks like he feels the same way he did when he went into prison.

00:11:20.920 And we didn't do what we should have done at the time,

00:11:24.500 charging him with treason.

00:11:26.720 And now we're making it even worse by allowing him to get out early.

00:11:31.060 There doesn't seem to be any reason for it.

00:11:33.160 Why would you let this guy go after 17 years?

00:11:36.560 Charged as he is with pretty serious offenses like conspiracy to kill U.S. nationals.

00:11:43.040 That seems like a fairly significant crime.

00:11:45.540 Yeah, I think that's a big one.

00:11:47.020 Yeah, so...

00:11:48.380 In Foreign Policy magazine reported in 2017 that an investigation by the National Counterterrorism Center

00:11:54.360 found that Lind, quote,

00:11:55.460 continued to advocate for global jihad and to write and translate violent extremist texts.

00:12:03.900 But the answer, though, is pretty good.

00:12:06.120 They said for three years he's going to be watched like a hawk.

00:12:08.640 Oh, wow.

00:12:09.320 Well, there you go.

00:12:10.240 I mean, look.

00:12:11.340 Done.

00:12:11.600 Three years.

00:12:13.920 That's wonderful.

00:12:14.820 Because that's the time he would normally have been in prison, right?

00:12:17.380 Yeah.

00:12:18.020 When he would have been in prison, they're going to watch him carefully.

00:12:21.160 And then he's just going to be at your local Starbucks.

00:12:24.000 Starbucks, he's going to be giving you Dunkin' Donuts as you come through.

00:12:27.380 And we're supposed to be okay with that.

00:12:30.880 What are you, an Islamophobe?

00:12:32.420 All of a sudden?

00:12:33.140 Is that what you're...

00:12:34.160 No.

00:12:34.500 You're an Islamophobe?

00:12:35.480 I am not an Islamophobe.

00:12:36.880 I will say, though, if I go to Dunkin' Donuts and I order a croissant sandwich

00:12:40.700 and he hands it to me and he says it in, like, Farsi,

00:12:44.640 I am going to report him.

00:12:46.160 Going to the parole board?

00:12:46.400 I'm going to report him.

00:12:47.420 He's only supposed to speak in English.

00:12:49.400 And I will be very upset if he says something to me in Farsi.

00:12:53.560 All right.

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00:13:55.000 I love the new guidelines that were published by NPR

00:13:58.460 on how we can properly use phrases while reporting on the abortion debate.

00:14:06.360 I am fascinated by this.

00:14:09.060 And there's a central sort of thing going on where I've never noticed this before.

00:14:15.920 And here it is happening.

00:14:18.500 Listen to this.

00:14:19.220 This is from the New York Times.

00:14:20.700 And I've mentioned this on previous broadcasts.

00:14:23.360 The Fetal Heartbeat.

00:14:29.320 It is now a thing that is no longer a thing.

00:14:32.900 I mean, there's this argument that when does life start?

00:14:36.980 I don't know.

00:14:37.720 When does it start?

00:14:38.380 Well, okay, it starts when the baby's born.

00:14:41.140 Or it starts at conception.

00:14:42.320 Or it starts at viability.

00:14:43.840 Or it's at cognitive ability.

00:14:45.780 32.

00:14:47.060 I think you're really alive.

00:14:48.840 Or if it's 32 years old.

00:14:50.060 When you're 32.

00:14:50.800 When you're 32.

00:14:51.280 Well, you can't be present yet.

00:14:53.360 So, 35.

00:14:54.000 Okay, 35.

00:14:55.080 35 years old is when life begins.

00:14:57.560 And there's been this debate that goes on for a long time.

00:14:59.600 And some people say it's, you know, when the heart starts beating.

00:15:01.880 It's a pretty logical one, right?

00:15:04.100 Yeah.

00:15:04.320 We know when the heart stops beating.

00:15:06.820 It's generally when we say there's no more life, right?

00:15:09.440 So, to say, like, it's not the most insane pro-choice argument to say until the heart is beating, it's not an abortion, right?

00:15:18.580 Like, it's not my position, but it's not the most extreme pro-choice argument to say that.

00:15:23.600 Yeah.

00:15:23.820 I think we both agree life begins at conception.

00:15:26.520 Yes.

00:15:27.040 However, like, if you were to say, okay, well, you know what?

00:15:29.720 You got the first six weeks until the heartbeat comes out.

00:15:33.240 Certainly, that would cut down our abortions dramatically. 0.99

00:15:35.600 Yeah.

00:15:35.840 It's what Alabama's basically trying to do. 1.00

00:15:37.700 But there's an indication of life when you have a heartbeat.

00:15:40.100 Well, the heartbeat in that line has been part of the conversation for a long time.

00:15:47.080 When does life begin?

00:15:48.840 Now, we've come to a point where the heartbeat may not actually be a heartbeat.

00:15:54.960 Well, they can't give that ground because if it's a heartbeat, clearly that's life.

00:16:01.920 You've got a heart, it's beating, you're alive.

00:16:04.780 And that's certainly the strategy of people who are pro-life, right?

00:16:07.560 Yes.

00:16:07.840 Like, hey, recognize there's a life thing going on here, guys.

00:16:11.220 But it's also science.

00:16:12.680 Yeah.

00:16:12.980 It's also biology.

00:16:14.360 It's also reality.

00:16:15.600 Exactly.

00:16:16.400 So listen to this, and we found this multiple times, and we've been hitting it over the past

00:16:21.060 few weeks, and I had never noticed it before the past couple of weeks.

00:16:24.380 The new laws that prohibit abortion as early as the sixth week of pregnancy have been called

00:16:28.960 quote, heartbeat, end quote, legislation by supporters.

00:16:34.420 Now, there you could say maybe they're just referring to the name of the bill.

00:16:37.340 That's why they put it in quotes.

00:16:38.480 Now, I've seen in several previous articles that we've brought up on the program and on

00:16:42.540 the News and Why It Matters and other shows that it's not just when they're referring to

00:16:46.620 the name of the legislation.

00:16:47.440 They're saying, like, it's a reference to the fetal, quote, unquote, heartbeat.

00:16:50.800 And it's like, well, what else is it?

00:16:52.940 Like, what are you saying it is?

00:16:54.400 The New York Times has attempted the explanation here today, and I think you're going to appreciate

00:16:58.660 this.

00:16:59.140 All right.

00:17:00.060 It's a quote, unquote, heartbeat, a reference to the flickering pulse that can be seen on

00:17:05.120 ultrasound images of a developing embryo.

00:17:08.040 Oh, the flickering pulse.

00:17:09.700 The flickering pulse.

00:17:10.500 Okay.

00:17:10.900 Now, my thought was, I mean, do you think it's a strobe light?

00:17:14.200 Like, what is it exactly?

00:17:15.960 It's like E.T.'s heart light.

00:17:17.200 Right.

00:17:17.800 It could be that.

00:17:18.600 Turn on your heart light.

00:17:19.600 It could be one of those lights that when you're in a boat and if you put it in water,

00:17:23.080 it starts flashing, like, you know, to get people's attention, like one of those marine

00:17:26.700 strobe lights.

00:17:27.500 Could be that.

00:17:28.520 It could be a rave going on inside the womb. 0.99

00:17:33.140 Oh.

00:17:33.560 Perhaps there's a party and there's glow sticks and there's flashing lights from a club.

00:17:39.040 It's not a flickering pulse.

00:17:40.680 It is a heartbeat.

00:17:42.040 This is not something that was, again, we're told we're the ones that are anti-science and

00:17:46.600 they're telling us a heartbeat is a flickering pulse.

00:17:49.600 What the hell is a flickering pulse?

00:17:52.520 It's not a flickering pulse.

00:17:54.020 It is the beat of a heart as it's developing.

00:17:57.440 And we've seen this now in utterly amazing form when the abortion procedures and terminology

00:18:07.920 and rights are discussed by NPR that you brought up.

00:18:14.440 I am blown away reading this.

00:18:17.600 Again, there are certain levels of denial we can get into, right?

00:18:24.660 You can get, like, when you're watching a movie with a crazy plot, you have to go into that.

00:18:28.440 You have to, like, take that break from reality.

00:18:31.540 And you have to kind of accept, well, yeah, some people can fly.

00:18:34.500 Some people can shoot lasers out of their eyes.

00:18:36.380 Sometimes there are giant monsters going out of the sea.

00:18:38.560 And obviously, I know Godzilla's real, but I'm saying, generally speaking, these things

00:18:41.980 aren't real.

00:18:43.560 And there's that suspension of disbelief that you have to have.

00:18:48.780 Reading this NPR guideline, I'm almost to the Godzilla level with it.

00:18:54.040 It's so unbelievable.

00:18:55.660 We'll give you the details of it in 60 seconds.

00:18:57.920 Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program.

00:19:03.880 So NPR has some new guidelines for what their hosts call certain abortion terms.

00:19:10.760 Now, this is what they say.

00:19:12.380 They say, one thing to keep in mind about this law and others like it, proponents refer to it as a, quote,

00:19:18.800 fetal heartbeat law.

00:19:21.080 That is their term.

00:19:23.080 It needs to be attributed to them if used and put in quotation marks if printed.

00:19:28.320 So this is actually sort of explaining this confusion I've had.

00:19:32.160 They're just, because the heartbeat is part of the name of the bill, they're acting as if it's a concept not understood by science.

00:19:39.680 Like, it's a heartbeat.

00:19:40.580 Well, that's what they're calling it.

00:19:42.900 But, I mean, they're calling it that because it's accurate, right?

00:19:45.720 That's what it is.

00:19:46.500 I mean, yes, it does make a powerful point about life.

00:19:49.300 It does.

00:19:50.260 And it is a reason.

00:19:52.020 And part of the reason they're doing it is to convince people, hey, this thing that you think you're, quote, unquote, aborting is just life that you're ending.

00:20:00.020 You know, I mean, that is part of the reason they're targeting the heartbeat.

00:20:04.640 But it's like, it's, in a way, a moment of coming together.

00:20:11.320 I mean, I want zero abortions. 0.99

00:20:13.720 Zero.

00:20:14.360 Okay?

00:20:14.540 I don't want it to be legal.

00:20:15.480 You know, when they say, hey, this new law you're passing is just a Trojan horse for getting rid of abortion.

00:20:20.700 It's not a Trojan horse.

00:20:21.560 I'm telling you.

00:20:22.320 It's right there.

00:20:23.360 That's part of the plan.

00:20:24.520 I want that to be the future.

00:20:26.180 And we'll get there.

00:20:27.620 However, in a way, it's a compromise from the right.

00:20:32.000 Like, someone who thinks, hey, this is life and you're ending life.

00:20:36.920 You're probably saying that I'll give you six weeks isn't the ideal position.

00:20:41.260 Right?

00:20:41.840 You want life that begins at conception.

00:20:44.180 You want it to go to the end of the pregnancy. 0.92

00:20:47.080 However, it's six weeks.

00:20:47.860 It's a really good step in the right direction.

00:20:49.480 And it's a really good line.

00:20:50.420 It makes sense.

00:20:50.980 If you're a Democrat, you can say, okay, well, look.

00:20:53.280 I mean, think about this in the way we actually talk about abortion.

00:20:56.860 A woman has unprotected sex or gets pregnant in some fashion and realizes they've made a mistake. 0.98

00:21:04.280 Then, you know, wants to abort their baby. 0.97

00:21:08.520 Well, this gives them six weeks to do that.

00:21:10.460 And they keep saying, well, they don't even know if they're pregnant.

00:21:12.500 Well, they have morning after pills for a reason.

00:21:14.360 Like, this is when you make a mistake like that.

00:21:16.980 If something happens that you, I shouldn't have done that.

00:21:19.520 That was a mistake.

00:21:20.200 I can't have a baby right now.

00:21:21.660 That's why they have the morning after pill.

00:21:23.480 You know, we've talked about this before.

00:21:24.580 In a sensible world, the left-wing position is the morning after pill.

00:21:30.180 Right?

00:21:30.340 In a world, now, look.

00:21:32.200 I think there should be no abortion at all. 0.66

00:21:33.820 But, like, in a sensible world with debate, it wouldn't be nine months or right after birth you could still abort the kid.

00:21:40.500 It would be, all right, look, if you made a mistake, before we even know that you're pregnant, you have a chance to stop whatever's going on.

00:21:46.980 And we won't even know if anything even happened.

00:21:49.840 Right?

00:21:49.960 We don't even know if the person was pregnant. 1.00

00:21:51.500 We won't even know.

00:21:52.420 It's like the blind firing squad.

00:21:55.400 Right?

00:21:55.620 Like, where, you know, there's like 25 people.

00:21:57.800 The guy's got the blindfold on and there's like 25 people with guns and no one knows who's shooting the real bullet in the blank.

00:22:02.580 Right?

00:22:02.720 It's like that sort of concept.

00:22:04.620 And it's like, I'm not saying that's a good position.

00:22:06.700 I'm just saying, like, that would be a position that would be, should be extreme in our society.

00:22:11.700 Right?

00:22:11.920 Like, at least, you know, but it's not.

00:22:13.880 It's like the, it's the very beginning of the pro-choice argument.

00:22:18.300 So, you'd think that there'd be some room for something like that.

00:22:22.600 But that is, that is part of the reason they do it.

00:22:25.380 They go on to abortion procedures and terminology.

00:22:28.880 And, I mean, listen to this.

00:22:30.820 Partial birth is not a medical term and has no exact parallel in medical terminology.

00:22:36.180 Intact dilation and extraction is the closest description.

00:22:39.280 Now, of course, that doesn't.

00:22:41.980 Extraction.

00:22:42.500 Right.

00:22:42.720 Extraction.

00:22:43.200 Think about what extraction means, right?

00:22:44.840 Wow.

00:22:45.140 Now, that sounds like a doctor term.

00:22:46.780 And that's why partial birth abortion exists. 1.00

00:22:48.900 Because what it does is it describes what's going on.

00:22:51.980 And they don't like that.

00:22:53.700 Also, it is not correct.

00:22:55.160 And this, I thought, was interesting.

00:22:56.340 The one point to the side of maybe the pro-life argument in their, in this piece.

00:23:03.040 Also, it is not correct to call these procedures rare.

00:23:06.680 It is not known how often they are performed.

00:23:10.680 Now, they're talking about what we would call partial birth abortion. 0.78

00:23:13.580 They always say that's rare.

00:23:15.620 You know, I get this from pro-choice people from time to time.

00:23:18.160 They're like, well, I mean, come on.

00:23:19.400 It's, what is it?

00:23:20.060 1% of abortions?

00:23:21.480 2% of abortions are late term.

00:23:24.180 We keep talking about that.

00:23:25.460 Yeah, I guess we shouldn't talk about the 7 or 8 9-11s that happen every year.

00:23:28.680 Because that's basically what we're talking about.

00:23:30.300 When we talk about like 9, you know, third term, late term abortions, 9th month abortions.

00:23:36.200 Some of these partial birth procedures, which they, you know, sometimes are earlier than 9 months.

00:23:41.160 But still, like we're talking about tens of thousands of babies that could have, you know, could be born.

00:23:47.480 And are viable and could be, you know, many people are, you know, many babies are born and live at that point.

00:23:55.560 And NPR doesn't want you to use the late term abortion term either.

00:23:59.180 No, that's bad.

00:24:00.040 Well, it carries ideological baggage, Stu.

00:24:03.960 It does?

00:24:04.500 Yeah.

00:24:04.760 We don't want the ideological baggage of late term abortion.

00:24:09.700 Unbelievable.

00:24:10.220 I mean, this is so partisan.

00:24:13.120 This is so biased.

00:24:14.540 I love this part.

00:24:15.840 This is fantastic.

00:24:17.380 Because we're talking about the, you know, partial birth abortion.

00:24:20.720 It gives the impression that abortion takes place in the 8th or 9th month.

00:24:23.420 In fact, the procedure called intact dilation and extraction is performed most often in the 5th or 6th month, the second trimester.

00:24:29.160 Which, by the way, is still overwhelmingly unpopular with the American people.

00:24:33.740 The second trimester is not considered late pregnancy.

00:24:36.540 Thus, late term is not appropriate.

00:24:37.860 As an alternative, and let this roll off your tongue, Pat, because I think you do.

00:24:41.680 Okay.

00:24:41.840 If you're going to say, hey, they're talking about late term abortions.

00:24:44.340 Instead, say, as an alternative, they're talking about a certain procedure performed after the first trimester of pregnancy and subsequently the procedure.

00:24:52.780 And then give the technical name.

00:24:55.460 Instead of late term, they want you to use, this is a quote, call it a certain procedure performed after the first trimester of pregnancy.

00:25:03.580 Why can't you say what trimester is that?

00:25:05.760 Only after the first one.

00:25:07.860 And subsequently, then say the actual name of the procedure.

00:25:12.120 They also will not use the term abortion clinics.

00:25:15.120 They say medical or health clinics that perform abortions.

00:25:18.920 I mean, if that's not spin, I don't know what is.

00:25:21.200 No one's disagreeing with the medical or health part of it.

00:25:24.420 No one's saying, oh, we are against sonograms.

00:25:27.600 You know, like, there's no one saying that.

00:25:28.900 The point is not to use abortion before the word clinic.

00:25:32.660 The clinics perform other procedures and not just abortions.

00:25:35.660 Well, you know, I mean, I think if you say, you know, McDonald's is a hamburger restaurant.

00:25:41.260 Yes, they also do serve egg McMuffins, right?

00:25:44.080 They do serve, they do serve salads.

00:25:46.580 Though to call it a salad restaurant would be wrong, right?

00:25:49.300 They don't seem to have a problem with that.

00:25:50.760 But it's also wrong to say, George Tiller, the murdered abortion doctor, don't call him an abortion doctor.

00:25:58.420 Instead, we should say, Tiller operated a clinic where abortions are performed. 1.00

00:26:02.860 And this one is, I think, the most clear example of bias.

00:26:06.640 The term unborn implies that there is a baby inside a pregnant woman, not a fetus.

00:26:14.020 Babies are not babies until they are born.

00:26:18.620 This is all quoting.

00:26:19.820 Wow.

00:26:20.440 They're fetuses. 0.99

00:26:21.900 Incorrectly calling a fetus a baby or the unborn is part of the strategy used by anti-abortion groups to shift the language, legality, and public opinion.

00:26:33.620 Wow.

00:26:34.100 And then finally, this is amazing because this one may even be more direct.

00:26:37.900 On the air, we should use abortion rights supporter or advocates.

00:26:40.800 Okay?

00:26:40.980 So if someone is on the pro-choice side, they are abortion rights supporters or advocates.

00:26:46.660 And you could say abortion rights opponents.

00:26:50.040 However, it is acceptable to use anti-abortion rights, but don't use pro-abortion rights.

00:26:59.560 You can use anti-abortion rights.

00:27:01.980 So someone who's on pro-life side is against rights.

00:27:05.460 Yeah.

00:27:06.120 But you can't say pro-abortion rights.

00:27:08.440 Now, if you were so proud of the right that you're talking about, why wouldn't you want to use pro-abortion rights? 0.71

00:27:15.420 I mean, these are direct anti-abortion rights and pro-abortion rights.

00:27:18.980 You can use one but not the other.

00:27:20.340 Like, that is a clear example of how they want to do everything they can to control the language and win the argument.

00:27:26.980 This whole guideline could have been written by Planned Parenthood.

00:27:29.820 Yeah.

00:27:30.160 Might as well have been.

00:27:31.300 With the exception of saying that late-term abortions are rare.

00:27:34.280 Yes.

00:27:35.200 Right.

00:27:35.580 We actually have no freaking idea if they're rare or not, which is an amazing admission from NPR, by the way.

00:27:40.000 Yeah, it is.

00:27:41.000 888-727-BECK.

00:27:43.240 More Pat and Stu for Glenn coming up in 60 seconds.

00:27:50.860 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:27:53.920 Joining us now is Mark Levin from the, of course, Nationally Syndicated Radio Show, from Blaze TV, from Levin TV, and his new book is Unfreedom of the Press.

00:28:16.580 Mark, welcome.

00:28:17.680 Pat, how are you, my friend?

00:28:18.920 Doing well, thanks.

00:28:19.700 You know, this book couldn't be any more timely, especially with the news of NPR coming out with their new abortion language.

00:28:27.980 Pretty amazing.

00:28:30.240 Well, basically what I've tried to do with this book, I wasn't going to write about the press, but it's kind of in your face every day.

00:28:36.120 So they keep claiming they represent freedom of the press, so I decided to take a look.

00:28:40.440 And so I looked at the history of the press, and I looked at how it's cycled through throughout the decades and the various transitions it's gone through.

00:28:50.940 And I just want the public to know you feel this, but when you look at the history of the press, this is the lowest point the media's ever been in.

00:28:58.680 I call it the mass media.

00:29:00.900 The mass media is different than a free press.

00:29:04.220 Free press is something that belongs to us.

00:29:06.180 It's in the First Amendment.

00:29:07.240 This is what the founders fought for.

00:29:08.860 They didn't fight for Comcast or Time Warner.

00:29:12.640 They didn't fight for these guys.

00:29:14.180 Now, these guys are free to do what they want.

00:29:16.420 Nobody's saying, you know, the government should interfere, and the government's not, and neither is the president.

00:29:20.980 But we need to be honest about who they are and what they're doing.

00:29:23.900 So what I do, as I lay out early in the book, who they are and what they're doing.

00:29:28.060 You look at the incestuous relationship between the Democrat Party and the media.

00:29:32.100 I mean, it's overwhelming.

00:29:33.140 People who've moved between the party and administrations into the media and back and forth, family members.

00:29:40.860 You look at where they live.

00:29:42.000 The vast majority live in and around Washington, D.C., and New York.

00:29:45.280 These are hard blue communities.

00:29:47.620 They socialize with each other.

00:29:49.220 They party with each other.

00:29:50.400 There's almost no diversity in newsrooms in terms of a thinking process.

00:29:54.800 There's no independent thought in these newsrooms.

00:29:57.980 And you can see it.

00:29:59.200 And survey after survey, poll after poll of them will tell you they're not, there's nobody, no newsroom really, major newsroom that's right of center or center.

00:30:09.840 They're all pretty much the same.

00:30:11.540 That's why we put these montages together.

00:30:13.400 I'm sure you guys, too, where they're all saying the same thing, every news platform.

00:30:17.580 There's a reason for that, because it's groupthink.

00:30:20.260 It's a pack mentality.

00:30:22.360 But it's even worse than it's ever been.

00:30:23.840 I'll tell you why.

00:30:25.120 They push progressivism, and that's been going on really off and on for about 100 years.

00:30:30.000 But now they're social activists.

00:30:31.680 That's new in the last 20 or 30 years.

00:30:34.400 So you have these younger and younger so-called journalists who come in, and they're being taught this.

00:30:38.020 There's a number of journalism schools and professors who have pushed this philosophy.

00:30:41.720 They say, hey, look, the civil rights movement, the right to vote, Obamacare, all these things would not have happened but for the progressive ideology.

00:30:51.780 So you wash the news through the progressive ideology, you interpret it, you analyze it, you promote it.

00:30:59.880 That's what we need to do.

00:31:01.800 And that is what they're doing.

00:31:03.820 So they're actually creating events and then reporting on these events.

00:31:07.960 I have people call my show, and they say, why won't the media admit they were wrong for two and a half years on Russia collusion?

00:31:14.740 And I said, wrong?

00:31:15.960 They're participants.

00:31:17.340 In other words, who do you think these people were leaking to at the FBI and these security agencies and so forth?

00:31:24.180 They're leaking to the New York Times, CNN, and the Washington Post.

00:31:27.260 They're not going to apologize.

00:31:28.440 They're on a mission.

00:31:28.980 And so I walk through the book.

00:31:31.740 I go through these different issues.

00:31:33.960 I have a chapter on news, propaganda, and pseudo-events.

00:31:38.760 Early on, propagandists during the Woodrow Wilson administration, pseudo-events.

00:31:45.540 You know, Trump calls them fake news.

00:31:47.000 He's right.

00:31:48.220 And a brilliant man.

00:31:50.300 He was a former historian at the University of Chicago, was head of the Library of Congress, Bornston.

00:31:55.100 He wrote a whole book on pseudo-events.

00:31:56.640 And he says, most news is about pseudo-events.

00:32:00.200 What you see on TV is mostly unreality.

00:32:02.940 It has nothing to do with your life.

00:32:05.180 And this is a big problem, particularly in a republic that's relatively free.

00:32:10.240 That means that the press isn't giving us information that we can use in our lives.

00:32:14.600 It's not giving us information, legitimate information about the government so we can hold it in check.

00:32:19.920 It's pushing an agenda.

00:32:21.260 And that's why there's not a dime's worth of difference between the agenda of the Democrat Party and the agenda of the media.

00:32:26.920 The agenda of the media.

00:32:29.160 And I also point out in one of the chapters called collusion, abuse of power, and character.

00:32:36.020 These are the areas they hit Trump on.

00:32:37.780 And look at American history.

00:32:39.800 There have been presidents and others who have colluded with foreign governments.

00:32:42.640 This one hasn't.

00:32:43.400 There have been presidents who have literally abused power, who've shut down newspapers, who've locked up journalists, who've used the IRS against their political opponents, FBI, CIA, recent presidents, like Kennedy, like Lyndon Johnson among them.

00:32:56.680 Now, that's an abuse of power.

00:32:58.560 Trump has never done anything like that.

00:33:00.580 You talk about character.

00:33:01.760 They have to keep talking about Stormy Daniels and nondisclosure agreements.

00:33:05.500 Since he's been president in the Oval Office, has there been a whisper of a scandal?

00:33:10.340 No.

00:33:10.700 And yet we have presidents who had women coming and going left and right, interns, all kinds of things. 0.98

00:33:16.640 That's not Trump.

00:33:18.100 So there's this unreality we're being fed.

00:33:20.420 They're pushing this agenda.

00:33:22.120 There was no Russian collusion.

00:33:23.700 Then they push obstruction.

00:33:24.840 Then they push constitutional crisis.

00:33:26.660 Now they're pushing impeachment.

00:33:28.480 I just feel like Thomas Paine.

00:33:30.460 You know, I think back to that period.

00:33:31.720 Glenn does this a lot, too.

00:33:33.540 We had the early pamphleteers and the colonists.

00:33:36.460 And they spoke to each other.

00:33:38.380 And they informed each other.

00:33:41.580 We need to do that.

00:33:43.140 We need to do a hell of a lot more of that.

00:33:45.100 So I view this book, Unfreedom of the Press, really as a modern-day pamphlet.

00:33:49.860 And I want people, I hope, to read it, to pass it along, to discuss it.

00:33:54.260 But here's the good news in a sick kind of way.

00:33:57.620 A lot of these companies are going out of business.

00:33:59.580 CNN has no ratings.

00:34:01.220 They can't have no ratings forever.

00:34:02.580 The New York Times was going broke until this billionaire from Mexico, telecommunications bank, that bought 17 or 20 percent of their stock.

00:34:11.580 Bezos bought the Washington Post, which was going bankrupt, for the core of a billion dollars.

00:34:15.480 It's not just technology, although that's crucial, that's changing the landscape.

00:34:20.580 They're changing the landscape because people are turning them off.

00:34:24.220 They have options.

00:34:25.200 You know, they have us, Blaze TV.

00:34:27.140 They have our radio programs.

00:34:28.760 But you also have other things on the Internet.

00:34:31.020 I know people trash the Internet.

00:34:32.440 I don't trash the Internet.

00:34:34.440 There are, you know, there are perverts and reprobates and evil people everywhere, including on the Internet.

00:34:39.960 You've got to be careful about what you're probably in your community, you know.

00:34:42.880 So you've got to be careful of who you hang out with and careful of what you look at.

00:34:46.560 But I view a lot of this as the new pamphleteers, the competition that's coming.

00:34:51.660 And I think there's going to be future technologies, platforms we haven't even thought of yet, that will, again, create new and better competition.

00:35:01.340 So I have a strong belief in freedom of the press, and I have a very negative view of the modern media today.

00:35:08.520 Talking to Mark Levin, the book is Unfreedom of the Press.

00:35:10.640 Mark, I know you're short on time here, but before you go, you have this kind of transformation from journalist to activist you talked about.

00:35:17.900 You talk about how it's sort of falling apart for the mainstream media.

00:35:21.980 Is that why it's getting so much worse?

00:35:24.280 Is there sort of like a desperation?

00:35:25.920 They're seeing their power go away, and that's why they're acting out even in more extreme ways than earlier?

00:35:31.140 I think that's why they're going after Trump.

00:35:33.240 They figured they had this in the bag.

00:35:34.840 They pushed Hillary. 1.00

00:35:35.780 They were trashing him, and they lost.

00:35:38.360 And they're trying to fix it from their perspective.

00:35:41.200 Okay, just because 63 million Americans voted for him doesn't mean we can't disenfranchise them.

00:35:46.380 And so that's one of the things that drives these people nuts.

00:35:50.560 But you raise another point that's very, very important, the mixture of news and opinion.

00:35:55.080 And that's really the key problem here.

00:35:57.300 In 1942, there was a report put out by the media about the media, and they warned about this.

00:36:02.520 They said we're going to lose the faith and trust of our viewers and our listeners if we keep doing this.

00:36:08.100 We have the ability to destroy people.

00:36:09.980 We have the ability to be positive.

00:36:11.360 We have the ability to lie.

00:36:12.760 We have the ability to tell the truth.

00:36:14.260 And if we're going to combine fact with fiction, news with opinion, we're going to destroy our credibility.

00:36:21.560 Well, they've destroyed their credibility because 80% of Republicans do not believe the media.

00:36:26.600 80% of Democrats do.

00:36:28.720 And so if you want to throw in with a political party, that's fine.

00:36:31.660 The dishonesty of this is, you know, about 1780 to about 1860, we had the political party press where the press lined up with one party or candidate or viewpoint or another.

00:36:43.260 And they were very transparent about it.

00:36:45.100 It was brutal, but they were transparent.

00:36:47.080 Today, we have the party press, the Democrat Party press, a one-party press.

00:36:52.000 And that's why they keep looping through, you know, Adam Schiff or Nadler.

00:36:58.080 They bring guests on, politicians on, professors on, so-called experts on, who really mimic their own viewpoints.

00:37:08.180 Mark, we know you're pressed for time.

00:37:10.420 Congratulations on the success of this book.

00:37:12.380 It's already number one.

00:37:13.140 And you've obviously pissed off Brian Stelter at CNN, so you've done something incredibly right.

00:37:18.280 It doesn't take much.

00:37:18.660 No, it doesn't.

00:37:20.980 Thanks a lot for being here.

00:37:22.340 It's Unfreedom of the Press by Mark Levin.

00:37:25.580 Thanks, Mark.

00:37:26.020 Thank you, guys.

00:37:26.760 God bless.

00:37:27.400 Great stuff.

00:37:28.560 Great stuff.

00:37:29.240 And I wanted to ask him, but we didn't have time, about the Convention of States.

00:37:34.400 Oh, yeah.

00:37:34.840 Which he kicked into gear back in, what was it, 2013 or 14-ish?

00:37:39.580 Doesn't seem like that long ago.

00:37:40.420 15 states are on board now.

00:37:41.860 That's great.

00:37:42.360 That is moving along well.

00:37:44.400 Yeah, it is.

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The Glenn Beck Program - May 23, 2019

Best of Glenn Beck ｜ Guests： Pat Gray, Stu Burguiere & Mark Levin ｜ 5⧸23⧸19

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