The Glenn Beck Program - December 17, 2018


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Glenn Beck on the disappearance of his pastor in China and why you have to decide if you believe there is a God. Also, a new video that will make you question if your faith is shaky at all.

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00:00:00.260 Hello, and welcome to Shades of the Glenn Beck Program.
00:00:06.060 It's our podcast. We're glad you're here.
00:00:08.580 Today, we're going to talk about the pastor that is missing in China.
00:00:13.440 One of the most incredible letters.
00:00:16.760 I mean, Stu, you said it.
00:00:18.640 It was like written in like the dark ages or something.
00:00:21.780 Yeah, it feels like it could come right out of a religious text
00:00:24.280 because of the sort of superhuman dedication to what's right.
00:00:29.720 I feel like we've completely lost that in our society today.
00:00:33.100 No, this one will rock your world.
00:00:37.840 There's a couple of things on today's podcast that will rock your world.
00:00:40.820 The real mountain of Moses.
00:00:44.700 We have evidence presented on the program today,
00:00:48.060 new evidence with a video that was just released today
00:00:51.720 that you have to see if your faith is shaky at all.
00:00:58.500 I understand it.
00:00:59.720 This might really kind of change things.
00:01:03.940 Also, a little bit on Pete Davidson, all on today's podcast.
00:01:15.960 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program.
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00:02:28.200 So last night I was having dinner with the family, and I said, here's what I want for Christmas.
00:02:36.800 I want us all to decide if there is a God.
00:02:42.860 And, you know, my kids are teenagers, and you have to search for God.
00:02:49.500 You don't know if there's a God.
00:02:52.020 I said, we've seen things in our life that would testify to us that there is a God.
00:02:57.940 But it's for each of us to decide.
00:03:00.140 And it's not a test.
00:03:01.180 I'm not going to sit down and, you know, with everybody and go, all right, what's your answer?
00:03:05.460 I just want us all to really search.
00:03:12.020 Because if there is a God, he will demand different things of us, and it will change our lives.
00:03:20.440 And it's a question that has to be answered by each of us.
00:03:25.440 Because why are we going to church?
00:03:27.420 Why are we doing things if there is no God?
00:03:29.580 Why?
00:03:30.420 Why would you do these things?
00:03:31.760 You should decide if there is a God.
00:03:35.140 And if there is a God, then what does he expect?
00:03:38.840 Why are we here?
00:03:39.880 If there isn't, you have to do the same thing.
00:03:42.480 Then what is my God?
00:03:44.360 What is, how do I decide what I'm going to do?
00:03:48.300 But the time for a real decision is right now.
00:03:51.780 I get up from the table and I start reading the news of the day to prepare for the broadcast.
00:04:01.340 And I saw a whole bunch of things that were meaningless.
00:04:06.080 Most of what you see in the news is just meaningless.
00:04:09.120 It's just going to keep going on.
00:04:10.760 It's not going to get any better.
00:04:12.340 Donald Trump is impeached.
00:04:14.340 You'll have, you know, you'd have President Pence.
00:04:17.920 Do you think they're not going to want to get rid of him, too?
00:04:20.240 You don't think they're going to say he's the worst ever?
00:04:22.380 Of course they are.
00:04:23.080 It's going to continue.
00:04:28.640 We're all complaining about our problems.
00:04:31.740 We're all arguing with each other.
00:04:36.160 Over 100 members of a church called the Early Rain Covenant Church in China
00:04:41.040 were arrested beginning last Sunday, December 9th.
00:04:49.740 Their pastor had written a letter and given it to his friends and attorneys and said,
00:04:57.140 smuggle this out, get this out, and publish this.
00:05:00.980 If I'm ever, what they call now, snatching people off the street in China, 1.00
00:05:06.720 if I'm ever disappeared, wait for 24 hours.
00:05:12.900 I'm sorry, 48 hours.
00:05:14.120 If you don't hear from me, publish it.
00:05:16.260 So they did.
00:05:17.040 I want to read this to you because I haven't read something from another human being in this time
00:05:26.380 that is more inspiring, impressive, horrific than this.
00:05:35.660 He has been gone now for over a week.
00:05:38.700 You can guarantee that he is being tortured now in China.
00:05:43.200 He writes,
00:05:46.800 On the basis of the teaching of the Bible and the mission of the gospel,
00:05:50.380 I respect the authorities God has established in China.
00:05:54.160 For God deposes kings and raises up kings.
00:05:58.240 This is why I submit to the historical and institutional arrangements of God in China.
00:06:05.120 As a pastor of a Christian church,
00:06:07.020 I have my own understanding and views based on the Bible about what a righteous order is
00:06:12.600 and good governments are.
00:06:15.160 At the same time, I'm filled with anger and disgust at the persecution of the church
00:06:19.820 by this communist regime,
00:06:21.440 at the wickedness of their depriving people of the freedoms of religion and of conscience.
00:06:26.880 The changing of social and political institutions, however,
00:06:30.240 is not the mission that I have been called to.
00:06:32.900 It is not the goal for which God has given his people the gospel.
00:06:36.380 For all the hideous realities, unrighteous politics, and arbitrary laws manifest at the cross of Jesus,
00:06:44.700 the only means by which every Chinese person must be saved,
00:06:49.440 they also manifest the fact that true hope and a perfect society
00:06:53.940 will never be found in the transformation of any earthly institution or culture,
00:06:59.860 but only in our sins of being freely forgiven in the hope of an eternal life.
00:07:06.740 I accept and respect the fact that this communist regime has been allowed by God to rule temporarily.
00:07:15.260 As the Lord's servant, John Calvin said,
00:07:17.700 wicked rulers are the judgment of God on a wicked people
00:07:20.460 and the goal to urge God's people to repent and turn again toward him.
00:07:24.940 For this reason, I am joyfully willing to submit myself to their enforcement of the law
00:07:31.340 as though submitting to the discipline and training of the Lord.
00:07:35.460 At the same time, I believe this communist regime's persecution against the church is greatly wicked,
00:07:41.440 an unlawful action.
00:07:43.680 The Christian church,
00:07:45.880 as the pastor,
00:07:48.140 I must denounce this wickedness openly and severely.
00:07:51.340 The calling that I have requires me to use nonviolent methods to disobey those human laws
00:07:57.920 that disobey the Bible and God.
00:08:01.300 And my Savior requires me to joyfully bear all costs for disobeying wicked laws.
00:08:09.060 But this does not mean that my personal disobedience
00:08:11.760 and the disobedience of the church is in any sense fighting for rights
00:08:16.660 or political activism in the form of civil disobedience
00:08:20.060 because I do not have the intention of changing any institution or any law in China.
00:08:27.020 The mission of the church is to only be a church
00:08:30.480 and not to become part of any secular institution.
00:08:34.160 From a negative perspective,
00:08:35.700 the church must separate itself from the world
00:08:38.680 and keep itself from being institutionalized by the world.
00:08:42.100 From a positive perspective,
00:08:43.760 all acts of the church are attempts to prove to the world
00:08:46.520 the real existence of another world.
00:08:48.920 The Bible teaches us that in all matters relating to the gospel and human consciousness,
00:08:54.660 we must obey God and not men. 0.97
00:08:57.100 For this reason,
00:08:58.200 spiritual disobedience and bodily suffering
00:09:00.720 are both ways we testify to another eternal world
00:09:04.060 and to another glorious king.
00:09:06.680 This is why I'm not interested in changing any political or legal institution in China.
00:09:11.380 I'm not even interested in the question
00:09:13.980 of when communist regimes' policies persecuting the church will change.
00:09:18.180 Regardless of which regime I live under now or in the future,
00:09:22.260 as long as a secular government continues to persecute the church,
00:09:25.940 violating human conscience that belongs to God alone,
00:09:29.160 I will continue my faithful disobedience.
00:09:32.320 If God decides to use the persecution of this communist regime against the church
00:09:37.640 to help more Chinese people to despair of their futures 1.00
00:09:40.780 and lead them through a wilderness of spiritual disillusionment
00:09:44.860 and through this make them know the Savior,
00:09:48.260 if through this he continues disciplining and building up his church,
00:09:51.600 then I am joyfully willing to submit to God's plans,
00:09:54.760 for his plans are always benevolent and good.
00:09:58.120 I also understand that this happens to be the very reason
00:10:02.080 why the communist regime is filled with a fear
00:10:05.220 at a church that is no longer afraid of it.
00:10:09.740 If I happen to be imprisoned for a long or short period of time,
00:10:15.160 if I can help reduce the authorities' fear of my faith and of my Savior,
00:10:20.100 I am very joyfully willing to help them in this way.
00:10:23.720 But I know that only when I renounce all the wickedness
00:10:27.280 of this persecution against the church
00:10:29.140 and use peaceful means to disobey,
00:10:31.740 will I truly be able to help the souls of the authorities and law enforcement.
00:10:36.840 I hope God uses me by means of first losing my personal freedom.
00:10:44.100 To tell those who have deprived me of my personal freedom
00:10:47.860 that there is an authority higher than their authority
00:10:50.820 and that there is a freedom that they cannot restrain,
00:10:54.420 a freedom that fills the church of the crucified and risen Jesus Christ.
00:11:00.880 Regardless of what crime the government charges me with,
00:11:04.640 whatever filth they may fling at me,
00:11:07.600 as long as this charge is related to my faith,
00:11:10.600 my writings, my comments, my teachings,
00:11:12.660 it is merely a lie and a temptation of demons.
00:11:16.320 I categorically deny it.
00:11:18.180 I will serve my sentence, but I will not serve the law.
00:11:22.540 I will be executed, but I will not plead guilty.
00:11:27.540 Those who lock me up will someday be locked up by angels.
00:11:32.200 Those who will interrogate me will finally be questioned and judged by God himself.
00:11:37.840 When I think of this, the Lord fills me with a natural compassion
00:11:41.880 and grief towards those who are attempting to and actively imprisoning me.
00:11:48.320 Pray that the Lord would use me,
00:11:51.600 that he would grant me patience and wisdom,
00:11:54.800 that I might take the gospel to them.
00:11:59.460 Separate me from my wife and children. 0.95
00:12:02.120 Ruin my reputation.
00:12:03.860 Destroy my life and family.
00:12:05.980 The authorities are capable of doing all of these things.
00:12:09.380 However, no one in the world can force me to renounce my faith.
00:12:14.660 No one can make me change my life.
00:12:17.260 And no one can raise me from the dead.
00:12:19.840 And so, respectable officers, stop committing evil.
00:12:24.700 This is not for my benefit, but for rather yours and your children's.
00:12:29.200 I plead earnestly with you to stay your hands.
00:12:32.820 For why should you be willing to pay the price of eternal damnation in hell
00:12:36.360 for the sake of a lowly sinner such as I.
00:12:40.380 Jesus is the Christ, Son of the eternal living God.
00:12:43.280 He died for sinners and rose to life for us.
00:12:46.100 He is my King and the King of the whole earth,
00:12:49.160 yesterday, today, and forever.
00:12:51.640 I am his servant, and I am imprisoned because of this.
00:12:55.980 I will resist in meekness those who resist God,
00:13:00.260 and I will joyfully violate all those laws that violate God's laws.
00:13:09.220 The best of the Glenn Beck Program.
00:13:17.500 So, there's some weird Christmas miracle going on.
00:13:21.900 There's weird science, and this has been happening for a while,
00:13:24.560 but this year is truly astounding.
00:13:28.280 Moron Trivia, which we've played for years.
00:13:32.360 Pat plays now on his program.
00:13:34.640 Pat Gray joins us from Pat Gray Unleashed.
00:13:37.940 And it was right again this weekend.
00:13:42.820 It's 13-2 now?
00:13:44.460 Yeah.
00:13:45.280 13-2.
00:13:46.560 And this weekend, it predicted the Eagles win.
00:13:50.600 Over the 11-2 Los Angeles Rams in Los Angeles.
00:13:56.360 Yeah.
00:13:56.820 Those were 13-and-a-half point underdogs, I believe.
00:13:59.080 Now, Stu, even you didn't think the Eagles were going to beat the Rams.
00:14:01.680 I never thought they were going to win any games,
00:14:03.800 but that was really amazing.
00:14:05.220 I mean, because we did Moron Trivia kind of together on Friday
00:14:09.500 on Pat Gray Unleashed.
00:14:12.520 And I was, of course, rooting for the Eagles,
00:14:16.580 but as we went off the air, Pat's like,
00:14:18.860 look, I mean, this is going to be the biggest test
00:14:21.040 of Moron Trivia of all time.
00:14:22.360 I mean, the Eagles were not supposed to win that game.
00:14:24.320 Backup quarterback, yet again, with Nick Foles.
00:14:26.560 They were 13-and-a-half point underdogs.
00:14:29.060 And won.
00:14:29.740 And won.
00:14:30.320 So let me ask you, because, Stu, you remember,
00:14:32.480 we've played this for 20 years.
00:14:34.460 Yeah.
00:14:34.820 20 years.
00:14:35.380 Yeah, almost.
00:14:36.480 And, well, we played it 30 years ago almost.
00:14:39.900 Yeah.
00:14:40.520 We were playing it, weren't we?
00:14:41.660 Mm-hmm.
00:14:42.040 Mm-hmm.
00:14:42.660 And it is, it's always like this.
00:14:46.460 It's always like this.
00:14:47.380 And there have come times where, like that,
00:14:50.020 when we first started playing it, that we would go,
00:14:52.920 okay, there's no way the Eagles are going to win.
00:14:54.560 And we'd be deep in a season, and we'd say, let's just do it.
00:14:57.640 And you want to protect the record.
00:14:59.140 Right.
00:14:59.680 And so we're like, let's throw a bone.
00:15:02.080 You know, we've only done that a couple of times
00:15:03.900 because every time that happens, it's wrong.
00:15:07.500 Mm-hmm.
00:15:07.740 Every time.
00:15:08.560 Oh, you can't miss with the perfection.
00:15:10.420 You can't mess with the perfection of Moron Trivia.
00:15:12.860 Seriously.
00:15:13.720 You can't.
00:15:14.080 You can't.
00:15:14.900 Yeah.
00:15:15.200 When you do, you're wrong.
00:15:16.220 So what are the odds that this randomly happens?
00:15:20.760 One of our listeners calculated the odds,
00:15:23.700 and, you know, I'm not smart enough to actually do the math on this,
00:15:26.520 but he did.
00:15:27.200 And he said it was a 0.037% chance that this would randomly happen.
00:15:33.800 I mean, but it happens like this over and over and over again.
00:15:38.380 Most, if we, you know, we should go back and look because don't we have the website?
00:15:42.520 We have a listener that does Moron.
00:15:44.560 It was shut down for a while.
00:15:46.060 I don't know if it's back up.
00:15:47.020 I think it might be back up.
00:15:48.040 They were going to put it back up this year.
00:15:49.560 Okay.
00:15:49.840 So, and it should have the record.
00:15:52.940 And it's, it's usually, we had a couple of bad.
00:15:56.120 The overall record would be pretty impressive.
00:15:58.080 Yes.
00:15:58.320 I think this is one of the better years, but you guys have done 15 and one in the past,
00:16:03.000 right?
00:16:03.180 Yes.
00:16:03.500 Yes.
00:16:03.800 Didn't that happen one year?
00:16:04.800 Yeah.
00:16:04.980 There's been a couple of years like that, but this is definitely one of the best of all
00:16:08.440 time.
00:16:08.860 I mean, it's incredible.
00:16:09.700 And really what was amazing, we did it for, you know, I mean, 15, probably straight years.
00:16:15.480 And we've had some interruptions here and there, but every year I believe, except for
00:16:19.340 maybe one was over 500.
00:16:21.260 So they weren't all 15 and two type of years, but a lot of them were, you know, 10 and five.
00:16:26.640 If you would have placed money just on Moron Trivia, you would have made a lot of money.
00:16:30.460 This year you would have made a fortune.
00:16:32.100 You'd make a fortune, especially betting against the spread, like the Friday, like, like this
00:16:36.700 weekend's game.
00:16:37.440 Oh my God.
00:16:38.000 Jeez.
00:16:38.200 Jeez.
00:16:38.800 And you'd never do it.
00:16:40.460 No, you never had, we've had a great record with Moron Trivia for decades.
00:16:44.460 And I've never heard a listener say, yeah, I put money down on it.
00:16:48.000 Someone last night.
00:16:49.260 Yeah.
00:16:49.460 Somebody did this weekend.
00:16:50.800 They won some money on it.
00:16:51.820 Someone said they won a, they put a, based on this.
00:16:54.680 Yes.
00:16:54.960 They just got to the point where I'm just going to now bet on it.
00:16:57.260 And they think they made this weekend $125.
00:16:59.560 They said.
00:17:00.200 Now, again, like if you did the money line bet.
00:17:02.460 And I wouldn't want anybody to, you know, really put that anything on the line.
00:17:06.160 No, because there's no, this is crazy.
00:17:08.820 No, I disagree.
00:17:10.000 I think you should.
00:17:11.220 There's moron magic happening.
00:17:13.260 If you have a mortgage payment coming up and you don't think you can make it, figure out
00:17:17.600 how much you have to put down to get that mortgage payment and bet it on Moron Trivia's
00:17:21.380 results.
00:17:22.040 That's where I am at this point.
00:17:23.580 After that game, I am willing to go down that road.
00:17:26.520 Yeah.
00:17:26.740 It's crazy.
00:17:27.640 I may not be a financial advisor, but I mean, money line going into that game had
00:17:30.940 to be seven, seven or eight to one for the Eagles to win that.
00:17:34.380 Had to be.
00:17:34.820 Because again, 13.5 points is the point spread.
00:17:37.920 Like they're saying, well, will the Eagles get, they'll probably lose by about 14.
00:17:42.160 They, you know, to win the game, you can get, you can bet a hundred and win 700 or 800.
00:17:47.120 And I mean, that's pretty amazing.
00:17:49.460 Yeah.
00:17:49.700 It's pretty amazing that Moron Trivia nailed it.
00:17:51.100 So to win 120, what did you maybe bet 20 bucks or something?
00:17:54.100 Probably about, yeah.
00:17:54.960 Probably about 20 bucks and win 125, something like that.
00:17:56.960 Not a bad return on your dollar.
00:17:57.940 Not bad for this listener.
00:17:59.340 And this is what we do for listeners.
00:18:00.820 We're just, we're enriching you with gambling advice.
00:18:02.760 We're just enriching you with gambling advice.
00:18:05.600 Happy holidays from the Glenn Beck Program.
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00:18:24.140 So Ryan Morrow is a, is the director of the Clarion Intelligence Network.
00:18:31.380 And he reached out about a project he is doing on the mountain of Moses, Mount Sinai in Saudi Arabia.
00:18:40.460 And Ryan, I have to tell you, I heard this and I thought, that can't be.
00:18:45.880 And then I started doing my homework on what limited information is out there.
00:18:50.220 And it is stunning what is in Saudi Arabia.
00:18:55.320 Welcome to the program.
00:18:57.440 Thanks so much for having me.
00:18:58.360 I'm really excited to be able to talk about this and, and really see this start to impact the world.
00:19:03.100 Because like you said, just so few people know about this and of those that have heard about it, they rightfully so assume it's crazy.
00:19:10.980 But there are, there is video evidence of this.
00:19:14.720 There's only been a few people that have seen it, very little evidence.
00:19:18.600 And it's because it is pretty much on lockdown with the Saudi government.
00:19:25.500 I mean, literally, it's like a military installation base.
00:19:30.020 Right.
00:19:30.540 So basically, the problem that many people have grappled with is that at the traditional site for Mount Sinai in Egypt, Sinai Peninsula, there's been very little evidence.
00:19:40.860 And so that's led to an academic consensus that the story is just made up, or at least 99% of it is exaggerated.
00:19:49.580 I remember when I was a young teenager, and I flipped through the Bible that I had and had notes on the side.
00:19:55.320 One of the notes said that there had, there is no evidence of the Exodus.
00:19:58.740 I mean, that was in a Bible I had.
00:20:00.540 And it really just turns out, based on our research, that they, we've all just been looking in the wrong spot.
00:20:08.620 The Bible's very clear that Moses fled to Midian, which would be northwestern Saudi Arabia.
00:20:15.000 The historian Josephus said that Mount Sinai was the highest mountain located near a city that is today called Al-Bad in Saudi Arabia.
00:20:24.260 And when you go to this location and you discard that conventional, traditional thinking, and you follow the story of the Exodus very literally, because it has directions in it, of them going north, south, left, right.
00:20:37.460 And if you follow it very literally, you run into just about everything that that story talks about.
00:20:44.440 But the information has not gotten out because Saudi Arabia is a theocracy. 0.95
00:20:48.520 It's very isolated.
00:20:49.380 And then in regards to Mount Sinai itself within Saudi Arabia and some of these other sites that we'll talk about, they are kept secret with fences and they are patrolled by police.
00:21:01.180 And so those who have tried to go there have been arrested.
00:21:06.460 They've had their evidence confiscated.
00:21:09.160 One guy, a highly controversial individual, Ron Wyatt, who went there in the late 1970s, he was held for 70 days.
00:21:17.120 And then the next two guys who snuck in, Bob Cornuke and Larry Williams, they were then arrested as well and had their stuff confiscated.
00:21:24.680 And then an American couple that were working in the country, Jim and Penny Caldwell, started leaking out photos and videos from the area around Mount Sinai, but remained anonymous.
00:21:36.960 But that was a while ago.
00:21:39.020 And so there wasn't any modern day footage or video.
00:21:42.240 And so people forgot about the theory until now.
00:21:45.320 And so we've released this video that's about 25 minutes long online, just this second.
00:21:50.840 Okay. So, Ryan, tell me what you have found and how you got the video.
00:21:58.300 First, how did you get the video?
00:22:00.880 Well, I did go into Saudi Arabia three times.
00:22:04.040 It really just a miracle happened where I was very interested in this since a young age.
00:22:09.060 And then it just fell to my lap.
00:22:11.560 And amazingly, even with some things going wrong, we did have some encounters with Saudi police.
00:22:16.640 I was able to get in and out of the country safely three times, and we got stunning footage that's really never been seen before.
00:22:25.740 And so now the entire world can see evidence of, for example, the golden calf worship, the altar that Moses constructed at the foot of the mountain, just as the book of Exodus says.
00:22:36.460 And what's stunning about this is it is marked with a golden calf, ancient markings, and cows were not in Saudi Arabia.
00:22:51.780 So there was no reason.
00:22:53.100 No tribe later would do that because there weren't cows. 0.97
00:22:57.640 And so it's marked with cows.
00:23:00.040 It's marked with a golden calf.
00:23:01.980 It's clearly an altar.
00:23:03.160 And what's stunning about some of these things is that they are behind this very high-security fence that is marked around this entire mountain, which the Bedouins and the locals call the Mountain of Moses.
00:23:22.080 Correct?
00:23:23.120 Right.
00:23:23.460 That's what's really amazing is that you get to northwestern Saudi Arabia, and the first thing that Saudis will tell you after saying hello,
00:23:30.740 because they're so happy to see an American that they've never met face-to-face.
00:23:35.140 And they say, do you know what's here?
00:23:38.000 It's the Mountain of Moses, Jebel Musa. 0.73
00:23:40.580 Do you want me to show you?
00:23:41.740 And I'll also show you the other areas where Moses and the Yahud, the Jews, walked. 0.97
00:23:47.040 And so when you go there, this is common knowledge over there, which is really amazing.
00:23:52.340 And many Saudis are also aware that we don't know about it.
00:23:56.100 I spoke to a former jihadist contact of mine about this, and I was just telling what I was doing in Saudi Arabia.
00:24:03.920 And he goes, yeah, Mount Sinai, Saudi Arabia, and it's covered up with the fences and the police.
00:24:08.200 Yeah, we all knew about that when I was in the jihadist world.
00:24:10.940 And from his perspective, the reason for doing that wasn't just because of the geopolitical ramifications,
00:24:18.240 but from his interpretation of strict Sharia law and those he hung out with, which included associates of Osama bin Laden,
00:24:25.000 the reason it's done is to preserve the sites, because if people start going and they start, like, taking sand and they sell it, saying it'll do a miracle, it becomes idolatrous.
00:24:35.800 And if it becomes idolatrous, according to Sharia law, you have to deny access and destroy everything, and they don't want to do that.
00:24:42.360 So from his perspective, Sharia law basically saved the sites.
00:24:46.800 And when you go there, I've got to tell you, you feel like you're in the exodus.
00:24:51.540 It's just incredible.
00:24:53.920 Okay.
00:24:55.060 When we come back, I want you to describe some of the things that you saw and have captured on video,
00:25:02.880 and then what you are asking for help with, this is when you see the video, I can't tell you, there is no place on earth that I would rather go to,
00:25:19.540 no place on earth than this.
00:25:22.460 If I could go anywhere to actually stand in front of the things that I've seen just on Ryan's video, I would pay any price.
00:25:36.300 This is truly, truly game-changing when it comes to faith.
00:25:43.100 Ryan Morrow, the director of the Clarion Intelligence Network, is telling us about what is in the desert of Saudi Arabia and what he is needing our help for.
00:25:58.120 So, Ryan, first tell me, take me through your trip.
00:26:02.520 What did you see?
00:26:04.540 Sure.
00:26:05.100 Well, the first thing that we saw is where the likely Red Sea crossing happened, and when you look at maps of that area, of the underwater area,
00:26:14.660 what you'll see is that there's actually a path going from Egypt into Saudi Arabia.
00:26:18.780 So if the waters parted, you would have to have somewhere that you can walk that wasn't too steep.
00:26:23.760 And that's there, and only right there.
00:26:26.860 And what's crazy about this is it's kind of elevated a bit.
00:26:30.380 And so the Jews, if you ever study Torah with Jewish people, they interpret the waters parting differently.
00:26:39.660 It is that the water was swept up.
00:26:42.180 So it was the wind that was blowing, the water was swept up and kind of piled up on top of each other.
00:26:48.860 And so it's not like you see in the Ten Commandments with two walls of water.
00:26:55.480 It's just swept up, and that reveals the dry land.
00:26:59.320 Well, that's a lot of water to sweep up, unless there is this underwater bridge, and it's there.
00:27:07.320 And it's from one side of the water to the other.
00:27:10.240 If the water was swept up, it is a perfect path to Saudi Arabia. 1.00
00:27:15.300 It's crazy.
00:27:16.700 I know.
00:27:17.400 And the army of the Egyptians would drown if the waters came back because it's wide enough for a population to walk. 1.00
00:27:24.700 But if you're pushed over to the sides, it becomes real deep.
00:27:28.120 And so the waters coming down would kill the people and also would drown them.
00:27:34.060 And so it makes logistical sense at that point.
00:27:38.260 And then after that, we know from the Book of Exodus that they go to Mara, but then they also go to a specific spot called Elam, where they come across 12 wells and 70 palms.
00:27:48.980 You follow the directions in the Book of Exodus, you come to this area, it's an oasis that has many more palms than that because they multiply over time, but to this day, 12 wells.
00:27:59.960 And when you go there, there will be Saudis saying, this is Elam. 0.95
00:28:03.840 This is where Moses and the Yehud, the Jews, came. 1.00
00:28:06.680 Then you leave there, and you follow the exact directions of the Bible, and what do you find?
00:28:13.580 What's visually the most amazing point is basically called the split rock, with the miracle where Moses comes up to a rock because the people are ready to revolt against them because they're ready to die of thirst.
00:28:28.520 And God tells them to go up to a rock and strike it with his rod.
00:28:31.480 And then there's an earthquake and a little bit of a rumble, and then water pours forth, and it relieves the Israelites.
00:28:38.520 And that rock appears to still be there.
00:28:42.120 When you go to this area, you will see a massive split rock with signs of water erosion coming down from it onto the ground where a lake formed.
00:28:52.620 Okay, so you understand this is crazy.
00:28:55.960 It's not a mountain.
00:28:57.000 It's just this giant rock on this, like, pile of rocks, and this huge rock, and it's split from top to bottom.
00:29:06.040 It's in the desert.
00:29:07.600 But as Ryan just said, right at where the rock is split, there's water erosion.
00:29:14.200 So it's clear that the rocks on the ground that are in front of this rock, a mighty water ran from that point down into the valley for a very long time because you can see, you know, how long does it take to water erode rocks?
00:29:36.240 It's actually smooth where the water flowed.
00:29:41.600 It's crazy.
00:29:43.880 And nearby, there are inscriptions that appear to be Proto-Hebrew, including images of a foot and a sandal with Proto-Hebrew writing that means the sole of your foot.
00:29:57.440 Now, the reason that makes sense is because of the biblical verse where God told the Israelites, wherever your foot, the sole of your foot touches, that's going to be your land.
00:30:10.600 And so there are these Proto-Hebrew inscriptions of basically the Israelite tribal sign right in this area.
00:30:18.300 And the local Saudis, at least those that will talk to you rather than kick you out of the Split Rock area, they refer to this area either as the Water of Moses or the Split Rock of Moses.
00:30:31.120 Okay, so then you move on.
00:30:33.100 And what do you come to?
00:30:34.520 That's where you get to what the locals call the Mountain of Moses, Jebel Musa.
00:30:39.060 And the top of it, in a real visually reminiscent feature of God descending upon it like a fire, the top of it is black.
00:30:49.440 Now, there's some people that say that that's just a natural thing.
00:30:52.020 It's not evidence of supernatural phenomena.
00:30:54.620 But I've got to tell you, visually, it's very distinct.
00:30:57.900 And just on that level alone, you look at it, and it's just breathtaking.
00:31:01.420 Okay, so now I saw some video, and I didn't notice that black anywhere else on any other mountaintop or mountainside or anything else. 0.88
00:31:12.820 Did you?
00:31:14.520 I did, yes.
00:31:15.720 You could see that black elsewhere? 1.00
00:31:18.320 Yep.
00:31:18.920 Okay.
00:31:19.220 Just in that immediate area, I could.
00:31:21.140 But I mean, who knows how big, if that phenomenon happens, and there is to be evidence at the top of the mountain of that, who knows how big that was?
00:31:29.360 Maybe it would have been more than just that peak.
00:31:31.940 We don't really know.
00:31:32.920 Okay.
00:31:33.020 So it's hard to tell.
00:31:35.040 But then in front of this mountain, just like, and you can just imagine Moses coming down from the mountain and seeing the people worshiping the golden calf based on where it is visually.
00:31:44.720 That's where you have a site of golden calf worship, or at least bull worship.
00:31:51.500 And the local custom is that that's where that story took place.
00:31:54.920 And you can see these petroglyphs of people worshiping cows on this stand where the golden calf would have been at the top.
00:32:03.100 And there's a circular area on the top that maybe, you know, speculatively, could have been where the golden calf was smashed into powder, because you can see it was worn down at the top.
00:32:13.140 And then there's an altar in front of it, again, just like the Bible says.
00:32:18.260 Okay, give the audience a scope of how large this is, because it's enormous.
00:32:24.920 Yeah, I don't have the measurement in front of me, but you climb it, basically.
00:32:29.000 You can climb it, and you get to the top of it.
00:32:32.120 And if the golden calf was on the top, then the local population of Israelites that turned against Moses would have seen it.
00:32:40.140 And so it makes sense.
00:32:41.360 But also, that was a brief episode in the book of Exodus.
00:32:45.760 So if it was too large and there were too many petroglyphs, it actually wouldn't match the story.
00:32:50.580 So what you see is a limited amount of intense human activity that apparently just was limited to that one spot and then suddenly stopped.
00:33:00.920 From there, if you walk towards the foot of the mountain, you see an altar of uncut stone.
00:33:07.660 You can see where the animals would have been brought up through animal shoots and about 12 marble pillars.
00:33:14.840 Now, why is that important?
00:33:15.760 According to the book of Exodus, Moses builds an altar of uncut stone with no steps at the foot of Mount Sinai and erects 12 pillars to represent the tribes of Israel.
00:33:29.500 And that's right there at the foot of the mountain.
00:33:32.200 It is astonishing, and it has been preserved by the Saudis and protected by the Saudis.
00:33:41.560 When you see the lengths, they have surrounded this entire gigantic mountain with security fence.
00:33:51.540 It is literally like a military operation.
00:33:54.540 And you can't go anywhere, and it says because of archaeological reasons, but it's in English and Arabic, and you're not allowed.
00:34:05.420 You know, there's a popular way to dismiss the Bible is to say there's no evidence.
00:34:10.120 There's no evidence.
00:34:10.760 Well, there's all kinds of evidence.
00:34:13.500 But on one of the biggest stories of the Bible, Moses and the Exodus and Mount Sinai, there is no evidence.
00:34:19.560 However, we have found now that there is evidence, and it is being protected by the Saudis, and you're not allowed to see it.
00:34:30.480 You're not allowed to go there.
00:34:31.720 It's protected by a fence.
00:34:33.740 The locals call it Mount Sinai, the mountain of Moses.
00:34:38.120 It has all of the markings from the Red Sea, if you just follow the directions in the Bible, to the mountain, and you see all of the things that are said to be seen in the Bible.
00:34:51.320 And it's not, well, I guess that could be.
00:34:53.980 No, no, no.
00:34:54.600 It's clearly that.
00:34:57.200 So this is either an elaborate, ancient, I don't know, hoax or Disneyland for, you know, travelers to come and say, hey, look, and this is the mountain of Moses right here, right here.
00:35:10.080 And Walt Disney is, you know, making audio-anatronic calves.
00:35:15.460 It's good for a tourism board, right?
00:35:17.100 Correct.
00:35:17.960 Or there's something to this.
00:35:21.020 Ryan Morrow is the director of the Clarion Intelligence Network.
00:35:24.640 I want to give you the video that you can go and see this.
00:35:28.540 It's Sinai in Arabia. 0.81
00:35:31.640 S-I-N-A-I in Arabia. 0.99
00:35:37.600 Sinaiinarabia.com.
00:35:38.980 Go there now and just look at the footage.
00:35:42.920 It is stunning that you've never heard of this.
00:35:47.300 Ryan, it's interesting looking at this because I think what you've put together is a really interesting theory with a lot of evidence.
00:35:54.340 And you kind of point this out a couple times in the piece where you're saying, look, we don't know for sure about all this stuff, but it all fits.
00:36:02.380 What is the level of acceptance when it comes to the church and religious experts and historians?
00:36:10.540 Like, do they believe this is plausible?
00:36:12.860 Do they believe this is reality?
00:36:14.480 Or is this something you kind of just came up with on your own and you kind of want to see how they react?
00:36:19.640 No, I mean, I'm not even the first person to go to the mountain.
00:36:22.980 And so the theory has been out for a few decades.
00:36:25.920 But I think it is gaining more mainstream acceptance.
00:36:29.240 There are some scholars who have said it's possible or likely.
00:36:32.900 They obviously wouldn't want to commit 100%.
00:36:34.480 You do come across the problem of conventional thinking and people with credentials being taught a certain way.
00:36:42.600 And so they just stick to the traditional site.
00:36:44.420 But then those same people will almost always admit that there's no evidence at the traditional site.
00:36:49.000 So I think the problem is that people just don't know everything that's there.
00:36:53.840 And of those that I talk to, once they understand what's there, they say, yeah, I mean, that's kind of got to be it.
00:37:01.740 One thing I'd add is that this actually is separate from Clarion Project, where I work, just so that I keep my bosses happy.
00:37:09.160 So this was an independent project.
00:37:11.400 But speaking to the earlier point about people not knowing about this, that's why I think even this radio segment right now could be a historical moment,
00:37:20.320 because the ramifications of this are just massive on a personal level and even geopolitically.
00:37:27.060 And so I encourage people to go to SinaiInArabia.com, and hopefully the Blaze social media accounts can also send out the direct link to the YouTube video that you can search
00:37:39.220 called Finding the Mountain of Moses that just went live.
00:37:42.460 And I hope people watch it on Christmas with their families and with their churches,
00:37:46.080 because I think for a lot of people, especially including myself, it really brought me to a whole new level of confidence in my faith,
00:37:55.280 but also understanding of my faith, and that you can't put a price on.
00:37:58.560 And you weren't somebody who is, who, you know, you say in the video that, you know, you're not a man of perfect faith,
00:38:06.760 and you struggle with it from time to time.
00:38:10.360 True?
00:38:10.660 Absolutely. I still have atheist days, because I'm just that cynical by nature.
00:38:16.680 So what was it like for someone like you to stand there?
00:38:21.420 I mean, I honestly, Ryan, I've done all kinds of amazing things.
00:38:25.260 I'd give my right arm to be able to go stand there.
00:38:28.860 I still am stunned.
00:38:31.600 Like, it's still not real to me that it happened, because I think of when I was, like, 14 years old,
00:38:36.400 reading about this and becoming just so interested in it, but never thinking, oh, I'd ever actually go there.
00:38:42.820 It was a dream, not a goal, because a goal is something achievable.
00:38:46.500 This wasn't achievable.
00:38:47.600 And then just out of nowhere, I get this opportunity, and I go three times.
00:38:51.560 I even brought my mother, actually.
00:38:53.300 And when I stood there, I just felt really unworthy and also confused as to why I'd be granted this opportunity.
00:39:03.380 And so it's a weird feeling.
00:39:06.060 And even beyond just seeing the evidence up close, the crazy amount of coincidences that were required to happen
00:39:12.860 to get me there and to get me back safely, even when things went wrong,
00:39:18.520 that's more stunning to me than even the evidence I saw right in front of my face.
00:39:25.740 Ryan, I will tell you that when I first got this proposal in front of me, I thought, okay, you know, let me see it.
00:39:33.360 When I saw it and then I started doing my own homework on it,
00:39:36.500 I feel compelled to make sure everyone in this audience sees this.
00:39:41.440 Because I do believe this is game-changing.
00:39:44.060 I think this is one of those moments in history that, you know, here we are, people who are struggling with our faith,
00:39:54.740 and this is kind of like a massive gift of, okay, well, explain this.
00:40:01.420 You say there's no evidence.
00:40:02.780 You say there's this.
00:40:03.580 You say there's that.
00:40:04.220 Okay, fine.
00:40:05.680 Explain this.
00:40:06.860 I've kept it from the world for this long and preserved it.
00:40:11.440 So, tell me about this.
00:40:14.060 And, I mean, it is, I mean, it just can't be, it's a, you know, a 4,000-year-old hoax, if it's a hoax.
00:40:23.940 It is, it's remarkable.
00:40:26.360 And I think what adds so much credibility is the fences around it, you know, the Saudis saying in Arabic and English,
00:40:37.140 this is an important archaeological site, no trespassing.
00:40:42.240 And they mean it.
00:40:43.480 They're backing that up.
00:40:45.020 And anybody who has goes to jail for a long time, and no pictures are allowed out.
00:40:50.780 Right, which is also why I view it as a bit of a miracle that I did not end up in jail.
00:40:56.920 I saw the police.
00:40:58.120 I encountered them on a few occasions.
00:41:01.280 But there are just tremendous opportunities happening that haven't even been publicized yet.
00:41:05.200 There are things that we have not released, that we are working on, things that have been found that just need more research
00:41:12.460 and that we weren't ready to come forward with.
00:41:14.700 And so that's why we are asking people to, if they feel compelled to do so, to donate at SinaiInArabia.com
00:41:22.260 so that we can do further research.
00:41:24.260 But more importantly, the Saudis are constructing a super city.
00:41:27.720 And in the middle of that super city is all of this stuff, including Mount Sinai.
00:41:33.960 And if that construction goes forth, we run the risk of evidence being destroyed, damaged,
00:41:40.260 or you can't excavate because no one's even brought a shovel to this place and started digging yet.
00:41:44.740 And if you have buildings there, you obviously can't do that.
00:41:46.800 So we want to engage the Saudis to get them to modify their plans and also partner with them
00:41:52.260 and make them understand that it is in their economic interest to open this up,
00:41:57.160 preserve it all, preserve the plain where the Israelites camped, not just the mountain.
00:42:02.540 And so preserve it, allow outside access, and don't do anything that could ruin it or destroy evidence.
00:42:08.620 And that construction I saw going on when I was there.
00:42:11.680 It's happening quickly.
00:42:14.040 Okay.
00:42:14.780 So if you want to be a part and you want to help fund this project, go to SinaiInArabia.com.
00:42:24.440 You will also find the video link there.
00:42:26.500 You can also look for the link on YouTube, and that is In Search of the Mountain of Moses.
00:42:33.520 Is that right?
00:42:34.280 It's Finding the Mountain of Moses, the real Mount Sinai in Saudi Arabia.
00:42:38.820 I'll be tweeting it out as well.
00:42:40.640 Okay.
00:42:40.960 And we'll tweet that out, and we'll make sure that it's at the blaze and everything else.
00:42:45.700 Ryan, thank you for sharing this.
00:42:47.780 Thank you for beginning a profound journey, at least in my life, and I think a profound journey in many people's lives.
00:42:56.640 Thank you so much, and glad you made it back.
00:43:00.240 Thank you so much for having me.
00:43:01.460 Those words mean the world to me.
00:43:02.720 Thank you so much, and we'll keep you posted.
00:43:04.740 You got it.
00:43:05.640 It's Ryan Morrow.
00:43:06.680 Again, SinaiInArabia.com.
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