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00:00:08.420 Hey, welcome to the podcast.

00:00:10.180 A great show for you today, surprisingly, don't you think?

00:00:12.960 Yeah, I mean, we weren't trying to make it good.

00:00:14.740 Yeah, and it's very rare.

00:00:15.900 We'll hit them about once every 10 days where it's a good podcast.

00:00:18.860 But today, you don't want to miss it.

00:00:20.740 We talk about Cohen and what this means with the National Enquirer.

00:00:25.540 Also, a little bit about the Farm Bill.

00:00:27.480 We have an interview with Chad Felix Green about being gay and conservative.

00:00:32.500 He wrote this great article for The Federalist that says,

00:00:34.920 you know, I'm gay, and it was less dangerous for me to be gay than it is for me to be conservative.

00:00:42.840 Oh, and the reaction to it is priceless.

00:00:44.480 Oh, my gosh. 0.95

00:00:45.120 The straight liberals that are like, you don't know what it means to be gay. 0.94

00:00:49.600 And you do? 0.78

00:00:51.240 Anyway, we have that.

00:00:52.420 Also, a little bit about the Chinese and Canadians, what's happening there.

00:00:57.480 And an update from a story we told you yesterday out of Tacoma.

00:01:02.460 A guy who arrived on the beaches of Normandy on D-Day, always wanted to go back.

00:01:08.460 His wife of 71 years just passed away.

00:01:12.920 I asked the audience, do you want to send him to the 75th anniversary of D-Day?

00:01:16.940 Today, you did an update with the family on today's podcast.

00:01:28.920 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:01:32.800 It's Thursday, December 13th.

00:01:37.780 I love Patriot Mobile.

00:01:38.920 I love Patriot Mobile, too.

00:01:40.080 I don't know why people don't do this.

00:01:41.760 I don't know either, because I think people just get, you know, you get stuck in the rut of, you know,

00:01:45.380 some company you've been with for a while with your cell phone.

00:01:48.040 And, you know, think about where your money's going.

00:01:49.960 But, I mean, it's going to, a lot of times, hardcore left-wing causes,

00:01:53.340 because these companies spend tens of millions of dollars supporting progressive candidates,

00:01:58.100 progressive causes, and it's your money, right?

00:02:00.500 You're paying it to them, and they're paying it to them.

00:02:01.980 The great thing is, you still have the same great service, you know, using backbones,

00:02:05.900 and you have the great service.

00:02:07.360 However, you're not paying all the extra fees to these companies that they're taking

00:02:12.820 and diverting to causes that you hate.

00:02:15.240 Yeah.

00:02:15.860 It really doesn't make any sense to do it the other way.

00:02:18.300 Patriot Mobile is fantastic.

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00:02:37.400 It's worth a couple of minutes to make this switch.

00:02:39.560 It makes a big difference.

00:02:40.780 I'm very excited about the head of Google and everything that he's doing and wants to do

00:02:49.260 and continues to do.

00:02:50.880 Right.

00:02:51.360 Because they're completely neutral, you know, and trustworthy.

00:02:55.300 Yes.

00:02:55.780 He's not biased.

00:02:56.900 No.

00:02:57.180 He runs his company based on the fact that he's not biased.

00:03:00.160 Right.

00:03:00.420 And of course, their motto itself is don't be evil.

00:03:03.460 So you know they can't be.

00:03:04.500 No, they changed that.

00:03:05.380 They did change that.

00:03:06.320 Yeah, they did change that.

00:03:06.760 So I guess now they can't be evil.

00:03:08.280 They can't be evil.

00:03:08.980 They're like, you know what?

00:03:09.940 We are doing a lot of evil things.

00:03:11.480 You know, it was too hard.

00:03:12.300 Yeah.

00:03:13.740 That's a pretty harsh line.

00:03:16.080 Pretty harsh line.

00:03:16.980 Yesterday, he testified that, you know, your concerns about AI are very legitimate.

00:03:26.840 However, the tech industry should be trusted to responsibly regulate themselves.

00:03:33.780 Yes.

00:03:34.120 I agree with that 100%.

00:03:36.200 I agree.

00:03:36.500 Because again, they used to have a motto that was don't be evil.

00:03:41.400 Right.

00:03:41.720 People who are evil, like, okay, the devil comes back.

00:03:47.160 Okay.

00:03:47.420 Let's just say the Antichrist comes to earth.

00:03:50.240 He's not going to have that motto.

00:03:51.940 Right.

00:03:52.220 No, he's not.

00:03:52.840 He's not.

00:03:53.260 No, he is not.

00:03:54.220 No.

00:03:55.060 He might.

00:03:55.500 Although he might say he does.

00:03:57.560 What do you mean?

00:03:58.460 He might actually say.

00:04:00.940 No.

00:04:01.740 The devil, when you're evil, you have to come out and say.

00:04:05.220 You have to say it.

00:04:05.520 It's like, are you an undercover cop?

00:04:07.360 You have to say it.

00:04:07.940 You have to say yes.

00:04:08.760 So are you the Antichrist?

00:04:10.240 He has to say yes.

00:04:12.140 Are you doing evil?

00:04:13.780 Yes, we are.

00:04:14.720 Yes, okay.

00:04:15.180 You caught me.

00:04:16.380 Dang it. 0.99

00:04:16.720 I'm here to destroy mankind. 0.99

00:04:18.940 Oh, you caught me.

00:04:20.580 Caught me again, a Scooby-Doo fan at Mystery Machine every time.

00:04:25.240 Wasn't it your conversation with, okay, what's-his-face?

00:04:31.100 What's-his-face?

00:04:31.880 You know, the developer of the AI.

00:04:33.660 Ray Kurzweil.

00:04:35.260 Kurzweil, yeah.

00:04:36.760 And his thing was, yeah, we're just going to develop it,

00:04:40.760 and there are no concerns because our culture at Google is such that

00:04:44.800 we wouldn't do anything wrong.

00:04:45.700 We'll never do these things.

00:04:47.020 That's what he said.

00:04:47.800 We'll never do these things.

00:04:49.460 And I said, when in the history of mankind has that worked?

00:04:54.100 Yeah.

00:04:54.720 Name one time.

00:04:55.500 Right.

00:04:55.780 Well, now, because it's better now.

00:04:58.180 Because we're Google.

00:04:59.000 Right.

00:04:59.640 We're Google.

00:05:00.540 And that's not enough for me.

00:05:04.220 Really?

00:05:04.820 Yeah.

00:05:05.660 Yeah.

00:05:06.420 That seems to be lacking in some way.

00:05:08.660 What if they had Hugo Boss design some snappy uniforms for everybody at Google?

00:05:13.940 Do they look really cool?

00:05:14.900 They look really cool.

00:05:16.320 And they hold up through history?

00:05:17.660 Well, then I think you'll let them.

00:05:19.120 You'll let them.

00:05:19.660 Because nobody would dress like that.

00:05:23.340 No.

00:05:23.800 If they were evil.

00:05:24.600 No, that's right.

00:05:25.340 Right.

00:05:25.840 That's right.

00:05:26.360 Okay.

00:05:26.720 So you know they're specifically evil when they start dressing like that.

00:05:29.820 Mm-hmm.

00:05:31.020 So he got to talking about Google's AI as it applies to filtering out some of the hate.

00:05:41.480 Mm-hmm.

00:05:41.800 The hate speech and the nastiness.

00:05:43.660 Important work.

00:05:44.640 Important work.

00:05:45.520 He said he has found, through these algorithms, some hateful conspiratorial YouTube videos.

00:05:52.060 And he described them as abhorrent.

00:05:54.240 And he indicated that the company is going to work harder to improve its systems to get

00:05:58.960 rid of this stuff.

00:05:59.600 Things like one of the videos he mentioned was one that's real popular, I think, among

00:06:05.820 all conservatives.

00:06:06.600 It's the one where Hillary Clinton and Uma Abedin attacked, killed, and drank the blood

00:06:14.480 of a young girl.

00:06:15.820 Oh, yeah.

00:06:16.160 I think we've all been all over that video.

00:06:18.760 How many times have we played that?

00:06:20.700 Yeah, finally it's out.

00:06:22.700 Thank you.

00:06:23.640 Oh, thank you.

00:06:24.800 Somebody in the mainstream media.

00:06:25.600 It's such a relief.

00:06:26.500 Yeah, that's finally talking about how Hillary Clinton drinks blood of children. 1.00

00:06:31.660 Well, and Uma, Uma and Hillary were both, you know, killing and drinking the blood of 0.97

00:06:36.460 the girl.

00:06:36.920 Is that typical, like, you know, partisan spin, though?

00:06:38.940 Are they trying to say they only drank the blood of one girl?

00:06:40.920 Yeah.

00:06:41.080 Is that what they're trying to say?

00:06:41.940 Come on, now. 0.87

00:06:42.420 I mean, you know, it was one of the two.

00:06:44.340 Here's the deal.

00:06:44.940 So inaccurate.

00:06:45.360 We all know.

00:06:45.740 They won't cover this.

00:06:47.260 They won't cover this.

00:06:48.840 That they're only drinking the remaining blood that the Jews didn't make into matzo. 0.97

00:06:54.020 Thank you.

00:06:54.960 Right?

00:06:55.360 But because of the Jewish cabal, you know, you can never say that.

00:07:01.640 Here's the thing about these algorithms.

00:07:03.780 I don't need the algorithm to tell me that that YouTube video isn't necessarily factually

00:07:11.160 based.

00:07:12.780 Wait a minute.

00:07:14.800 Can you not at least give the American people any credit?

00:07:20.500 Nope.

00:07:20.740 No.

00:07:21.100 Nope.

00:07:21.500 No.

00:07:21.940 Nope.

00:07:22.400 So we need these algorithms.

00:07:24.060 No, of course we do.

00:07:24.780 And that's good.

00:07:25.680 That's good that AI is going to clean up all this stuff.

00:07:28.100 So all the, you know, killing and drinking of blood of girls from our politicians, those 0.99

00:07:33.940 videos are going to go away.

00:07:35.140 So think about this.

00:07:36.220 Think about this.

00:07:36.760 Because we used to say, hey, listen, it was on Walter Cronkite.

00:07:40.420 Yeah.

00:07:40.940 Absolutely.

00:07:41.280 It was on Walter Cronkite.

00:07:42.120 I heard him say it.

00:07:43.180 The more they take these algorithms and they say, yes, we're taking away all of the things

00:07:49.460 that aren't true, the more, the more weak our mind becomes because we're not searching

00:07:55.240 for those things ourselves.

00:07:56.460 The more we trust them to less capable, we will be correct at discerning.

00:08:02.420 And the more we will say, look, the algorithm would have taken that out if it wasn't true.

00:08:06.800 Right.

00:08:08.260 I mean, we just become lambs for the slaughter.

00:08:12.040 And Google is, Google is so brilliant, just brilliant.

00:08:19.320 I, I, I learned this from, uh, uh, who was it?

00:08:23.480 The guy who did the creepy line movie, I think.

00:08:27.200 Um, and he was talking about, look at, it was in one of the books.

00:08:31.600 I can't remember, but, uh, look at the Google homepage.

00:08:36.120 When you go to Google, what's on the page of Google, go to their homepage, their search

00:08:41.880 show and just the search thing, just the search.

00:08:44.160 Okay.

00:08:44.840 Go now to Yahoo.

00:08:45.940 Totally clean.

00:08:46.740 Oh yeah.

00:08:47.000 There's all sorts of stuff on you.

00:08:48.140 Yeah.

00:08:48.400 Right.

00:08:48.820 Yep.

00:08:49.080 It's got politics.

00:08:49.920 It has news.

00:08:51.080 It has advertising.

00:08:52.040 It has all of these things.

00:08:53.540 Google kept it clean because they wanted to say, we're completely neutral.

00:08:59.640 We're nothing.

00:09:00.400 We're not trying to sell you anything.

00:09:01.740 We're not trying to do anything here at all.

00:09:04.600 No ads.

00:09:05.000 You can trust us.

00:09:05.980 Yeah.

00:09:06.280 It's brilliant.

00:09:07.060 It is brilliant.

00:09:07.960 That is their, that is their uniform from Hugo Boss.

00:09:10.140 Their front page is their uniform.

00:09:12.700 Which they've not changed since it was debuted, I think in 19, what, 97 or 98?

00:09:18.260 Because they don't want.

00:09:19.200 Hasn't changed a bit.

00:09:20.020 They don't want you.

00:09:21.020 They want you to see the word Google and what you're looking for.

00:09:25.380 So it's your friend.

00:09:27.320 That is brilliant.

00:09:28.000 It never pisses you off.

00:09:29.460 Yeah.

00:09:30.040 It's, it's, it's a brilliant strategy and it's a great hiding place.

00:09:34.700 And it works so well that we continue to use it even though we know we probably shouldn't.

00:09:40.140 How many times have we tried to get away from Google stuff?

00:09:42.620 And you can't because every time you try a different engine, it doesn't work as well.

00:09:47.900 And you're like, okay, I, I'm just going to Google it.

00:09:51.100 Right?

00:09:51.600 I mean, that's what, that's what I do every time.

00:09:54.120 I've tried Bing.

00:09:54.840 I've tried, you know, Yahoo.

00:09:57.140 It's like Lycos.

00:09:58.420 It's like, uh, Jeeves.

00:10:00.940 It just don't work.

00:10:02.420 It's like Google has become a verb where like Kleenex just means to us tissue.

00:10:11.460 Okay.

00:10:12.400 And people, it's tissue.

00:10:14.140 It's tissue paper.

00:10:14.880 It's not Kleenex.

00:10:15.580 Kleenex is a brand.

00:10:16.920 How did that happen?

00:10:18.380 Other than they must've been out in the market for a long time before anybody caught on that.

00:10:23.560 Hey, uh, you know, wiping, uh, wiping a little box is a good thing here.

00:10:28.960 You could have a tissue and it could be, I don't even know who makes tissues besides Kleenex,

00:10:33.200 but I know everybody who's, you know, it does, but we still call it Kleenex.

00:10:38.360 Google is so far ahead of their competition.

00:10:41.580 It's like if Kleenex competitors were, were like cardboard, you'd have a cardboard box

00:10:47.800 and you'd reach in and you'd pull out another piece of cardboard.

00:10:50.600 You'd be like, okay, can I have the Kleenex?

00:10:53.200 Cause it doesn't do it.

00:10:55.040 There's nothing that is even close.

00:10:57.480 I think it's so immersive though.

00:10:59.900 I mean, because if we say Google and we need an alternative, we will get 1400 calls for people

00:11:05.520 saying I use duck, duck, go, which is another, uh, I know search engine and duck, duck, go

00:11:10.680 is it does actually seem to be pretty good.

00:11:12.640 And every time I've used it, I've used it on Chrome, the Google browser, which doesn't

00:11:17.560 do me any good at all.

00:11:18.960 I don't think that's the only reason why they have the browser because they know you

00:11:23.500 will escape someplace else.

00:11:25.500 It's like I said to Ray Kurzweil.

00:11:27.620 So Ray, why would a company like Google allow me to Google things or allow me to find things

00:11:36.940 that could dismantle them?

00:11:39.820 If I was going to make a new thing, I couldn't do it online because you'd be monitoring everything.

00:11:47.820 And why wouldn't, why wouldn't it be in the best interest of the company to make sure

00:11:53.320 that I'm thwarted some way or another or that I'm watched and you guys just take it?

00:11:58.820 And what's his answer?

00:11:59.540 They just wouldn't.

00:12:00.380 They just wouldn't.

00:12:00.920 They just wouldn't.

00:12:01.400 They just wouldn't.

00:12:02.060 They're just too good.

00:12:02.940 The culture at Google is too good.

00:12:04.840 Well, they're not evil.

00:12:05.480 All right, they're not evil.

00:12:06.920 That's when you're dangerous though, right?

00:12:08.200 When you think you're so good and your goals are so wonderful, it's when these really terrible

00:12:15.040 decisions get made.

00:12:16.520 It's because you're sure, the end game I know I'm right on.

00:12:19.520 So yeah, we have to cut corners here, here, and there.

00:12:21.560 That's why the creepy line is so spooky.

00:12:25.460 Because they came out and said, look, we know there's this creepy line and we're going to

00:12:30.240 go right up to that line, but never over it.

00:12:32.840 Well, that line is probably pretty gray.

00:12:35.960 You know what I mean?

00:12:37.360 Let's know.

00:12:37.920 I don't know about you, but when I'm paying my taxes and stuff, I don't say, I want to

00:12:43.020 go right up to where I'm going to go to jail, but no further.

00:12:47.200 Because this is essentially the decision-making process of Joe Biden.

00:12:50.000 Whenever he sees someone in a biker outfit, he's like, I got to go right up to the creepy

00:12:53.500 line and not cross it.

00:12:54.640 But he doesn't know where the creepy line is.

00:12:56.200 He constantly is over it.

00:12:57.420 I guarantee having him sit on your lap is past the creepy line.

00:13:03.420 The best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:13:12.220 America, I need you to brace yourself, okay? 0.94

00:13:15.120 Just brace yourself.

00:13:16.980 We're going to have a conservative on, and sure, that's not unusual. 0.98

00:13:19.920 But in one minute, we are going to have a gay conservative on. 0.95

00:13:26.920 What?

00:13:27.540 I didn't even know they existed. 1.00

00:13:29.240 And the left is saying that if you're gay and conservative, you just need to shut up. 0.99

00:13:33.800 And I think that's the words most uttered by anti-fascists. 0.98

00:13:38.780 It's a fascinating story, a fascinating tale from one of the guys who is a contributor at

00:13:47.180 The Federalist.

00:13:48.080 He wrote a piece a couple of days ago.

00:13:50.780 The stigma against my conservative politics is worse than the stigma of my being gay.

00:13:56.980 Oh, my gosh.

00:13:58.020 That was setting hair on fire everywhere.

00:14:02.900 We go there in one minute.

00:14:05.240 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:14:19.640 The stigma against my conservative politics is worse than the stigma of being gay.

00:14:25.980 Everything I was told to fear about being openly gay has become a reality in being openly conservative.

00:14:33.260 Chad Felix Green wrote this story in The Federalist, and we have him now to talk not only about the article,

00:14:38.920 but also the backlash on the article.

00:14:41.760 Chad, how are you?

00:14:43.080 Good.

00:14:43.780 Good.

00:14:44.100 Thank you.

00:14:44.980 Welcome to the program.

00:14:45.900 So you are—tell me your evolution.

00:14:49.920 Tell me when you came out, what you faced, what you feared when you came out.

00:14:55.220 Well, I came out in 1998, shortly after Ellen did.

00:14:58.960 And I was the first openly gay student in my high school, and it was a huge, dramatic issue.

00:15:05.640 And everything that I had access to at that time was gay media that told me that I was going to be rejected by my family, my friends.

00:15:12.920 I was in physical danger.

00:15:14.460 And I was terrified every day about the impending doom that was going to happen to me.

00:15:21.700 And over the years, I really only experienced people being accepting and loving and careful and sort of fragile around me for most of my experience.

00:15:34.860 And I was very liberal in college.

00:15:37.400 And then, honestly, listening to—I started to explore you and Ann Coulter, and I realized that the foundation of my views leaned more towards libertarianism than progressivism.

00:15:51.640 And I just sort of became a conservative by the sheer force of I had no other choice because I couldn't promote or accept progressive ideas.

00:16:04.400 Yeah, and you can't change what you believe.

00:16:07.580 It becomes fundamental to you.

00:16:11.080 So, Chad, do you actually mean that the stigma is worse because you're a conservative than it was when you came out in 99?

00:16:24.800 Absolutely.

00:16:25.860 When I came out, people thought they were concerned about me.

00:16:30.060 My grandmother, who was a very religious Christian, was worried about my religious experience.

00:16:38.760 My dad was worried that I was going to get hurt, that I was going to become HIV positive, that sort of thing.

00:16:45.020 There were a lot of, what is your life going to be like now?

00:16:48.160 Because people at that time really didn't see much of a life as an adult for a gay person.

00:16:53.880 You kind of moved to a big city, disappeared.

00:16:55.160 And that was, there was a lot of understanding that needed to happen.

00:17:01.180 People just needed to experience me as a person and realize how normal and average I was.

00:17:05.700 As a conservative, I experienced genuine hatred based on stereotypes and bigotry and prejudices.

00:17:15.140 Okay, so wait, wait, wait.

00:17:15.860 Before you start there, you were a liberal when you came out.

00:17:19.460 And so you didn't have any of the conservative hate on you because you were, you know, trying to destroy our society because you're a liberal and all of that stuff. 0.99

00:17:31.620 Or, you know, none of the conservative hate that, you know, you're going to burn in the fires of hell and you should be destroyed. 0.96

00:17:39.040 I certainly perceived it from watching, from reading LGBT media.

00:17:47.520 And that's the reason why I started to explore conservative media because I really wanted to, I wanted to read your books.

00:17:53.840 I wanted to read Ann Coulter books, Sean Handy, everybody, and debunk everything.

00:17:57.340 I wanted to prove that the right was hateful and wrong and accidentally realized that I agreed with you.

00:18:04.740 But the truth is, is that nobody treated me.

00:18:12.120 I experienced people who disagreed with me. 0.93

00:18:14.140 I experienced people who were ignorant, that didn't really understand.

00:18:17.980 I've never interpreted religious disagreement as hatred because I've always seen it coming from a place of genuine concern and empathy. 0.53

00:18:26.460 But you also don't deny that there are those people who are out there and, you know, I mean, the Westboro Baptist Church.

00:18:35.020 But it is bigger than that.

00:18:36.980 There are a lot of people who have been gay throughout, you know, the human experience that have been, you know, deeply affected and hurt and persecuted because of their homosexuality.

00:18:50.540 So, yes.

00:18:51.860 Okay.

00:18:52.600 And, of course, in the world right now, outside of the United States, it is a very real danger to be a gay person or perceived to be a gay person.

00:19:00.920 Correct.

00:19:02.000 All right.

00:19:02.760 So what have you experienced now as a conservative?

00:19:07.280 Well, the truth is, is that since I've been active online, as a conservative, I spend most of my time trying to explain to people that I don't believe or embrace what they think I do.

00:19:22.720 And in doing so, attempting to prevent them from trying to harm me in some way.

00:19:27.840 I've, of course, been physically threatened, as all conservatives online are.

00:19:32.700 I've had to make sure that my personal life is very protected because people do actively try to get you fired.

00:19:39.440 They will try to – they'll send police officers to your house.

00:19:43.140 They will harass your friends and family.

00:19:44.900 Early on, when my Facebook was opened, my friends and family received harassment from people based on things that I said.

00:19:52.620 I had to protect all of that.

00:19:54.440 No one ever did that to me as a gay person.

00:19:56.660 I never experienced people saying – finding out that I was gay and then treating me badly.

00:20:03.540 The moment that people associate me with being a conservative, I'm instantly a Nazi, if not Jewish. 0.99

00:20:10.020 I'm instantly a racist and a bigot, and I'm deserving of genuine hatred.

00:20:15.840 And that's a startling experience to interact with people and realize that they genuinely hate you based on something that they genuinely don't understand about you.

00:20:25.640 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:20:27.160 We're talking to Chad Felix Green.

00:20:30.220 He wrote the article in The Federalist, The Stigma Against My Conservative Politics is Worse Than the Stigma of Being Gay.

00:20:36.920 Tell me about Stop Flaunting Your Conservatism. 0.95

00:20:39.540 So one thing that people say constantly, and you'll saw a lot of this when someone asked, is being conservative worse than being gay, was no, being conservative means you're a bad person.

00:20:55.860 But I'm often told, well, if you don't want to experience the hatred, stop being a bigot or stop harassing people who you hate from their perception.

00:21:09.860 And I always sort of associated that with, if I just stopped talking about conservative issues, if I just stopped correcting lies and inaccuracies that I see in media, if I just stopped talking back to the left, they would leave me alone.

00:21:25.840 And that's exactly the advice that I got when I was younger, and I would tell people I was gay, and I feared negative backlash.

00:21:36.200 People would say, well, why do you have to tell everybody?

00:21:38.040 Just don't tell anybody.

00:21:38.860 It's no one's business.

00:21:40.060 That's what I experience today is in my regular life, most people don't, you know, most people I know aren't interested in politics.

00:21:47.500 But they'll say, well, why do you do it then?

00:21:50.280 Why don't you just stop?

00:21:52.040 And there isn't an appreciation of what we actually do.

00:21:56.840 They just assume that we're sort of complaining about the hatred that we're inviting on ourselves.

00:22:01.940 And they don't really understand that we are fighting for something that we actually believe in, and that the hatred that we're getting for it is based on fighting.

00:22:13.560 But they'll say that, you know, you're gay, you're born that way, you have no choice.

00:22:20.100 Uh-huh.

00:22:21.460 And that's not a political viewpoint.

00:22:24.700 Right.

00:22:26.220 Take that argument apart.

00:22:29.800 It's, that's, I think that's a huge concept here, is people saying, well, you can stop being conservative.

00:22:35.760 Or they assume that I'm conservative because I am self-hating or because I'm ignorant in some way or because I haven't been exposed to the right type of people, that I will get better and become progressive.

00:22:49.420 And the reason that I used that analogy, that I didn't choose to be conservative, is based on my personal experience of, I fought it every step of the way.

00:23:00.360 I refuse to use that.

00:23:02.700 I refuse to use that.

00:23:04.580 Chad, I love that.

00:23:06.060 Because you are intellectually honest.

00:23:09.680 And the biggest problem that we have in America is it's, a lot of people will not explore because they'll start to, and if they start to see that maybe their side is weak, and I mean on both sides, any side, they start to see that they're, maybe they're not right.

00:23:25.980 They'll stop because they instinctively know if I find out that this is true, then I've got to change everything, and my life is going to be much different, and they don't want to do it.

00:23:35.840 They're afraid.

00:23:36.900 So congratulations on not being that person.

00:23:41.180 Anyway.

00:23:41.540 Well, thank you.

00:23:42.200 It would have been a whole lot easier if I had.

00:23:43.740 I bet it would.

00:23:45.040 I bet it would.

00:23:45.560 But no, it's, I realized that the foundation of what, of, the foundation of LGBT is progressivism.

00:23:56.260 You can't escape that.

00:23:58.160 And, you know, I have a husband, and that didn't come from conservative ideas.

00:24:01.680 That came from progressive pushing.

00:24:03.540 But the foundation of progressivism denies liberty.

00:24:07.900 It denies individuality.

00:24:09.300 It denies freedom.

00:24:09.840 And that's where I realized that I had a significant breaking point.

00:24:15.920 I kind of will talk about it, the left and the right today, as the left is being progressivism.

00:24:21.660 And everyone who doesn't agree with progressivism finds themselves on the right.

00:24:27.340 And as I explored these ideas and tried to challenge them, I realized I am pro-life.

00:24:33.760 I am pro-gun in that I think you should be able to defend yourself.

00:24:40.080 You know, I am a smaller government.

00:24:42.980 I don't want to depend on the government for everything.

00:24:45.060 I don't want to give all of my money to the government for these kinds of things.

00:24:50.060 And so in a way, I really don't believe that it's as simple as this is too hard.

00:24:55.980 I could just become a liberal.

00:24:57.980 I would be lying if I did that.

00:25:00.380 But being conservative is the consequence of my intellectual honesty about what I believe.

00:25:07.820 That's great.

00:25:08.420 We're talking to Chad Felix Green of The Federalist.

00:25:10.260 And something interesting happened, I think, Chad, with the wording of the headline of your story,

00:25:15.520 which is,

00:25:15.880 The stigma against my conservative politics is worse than the stigma of being gay. 0.65

00:25:19.920 And it didn't identify in the headline that you are actually gay.

00:25:24.140 And what it led to, at least what I saw online, was an army of straight liberal people trying to teach you a lesson of what it means to be gay and what it's like for people who went through that experience.

00:25:34.980 What is it like to get hit up by a bunch of straight liberals and giving you lessons on being gay?

00:25:41.220 It's very common.

00:25:42.020 I'm always assumed to be a straight white Christian based on my looks.

00:25:49.700 It's an interesting, you know, I have red hair.

00:25:54.280 I am just assumed.

00:25:56.300 And so it's become a running joke that I will simply respond by saying gay Jew. 0.90

00:26:01.160 Because people just, they make the, they come in with the assumption, the only people who are bad fall into this category. 0.98

00:26:13.080 And the only people who think like this are bad, therefore you must be one of those people.

00:26:16.900 And I constantly, you know, we talk about identity politics as a negative thing.

00:26:20.920 I actually use my privilege as somebody who is a minority to sort of force many on the left to realize that they are closed-minded on this.

00:26:32.520 That this isn't a worldview that is exclusive to ignorance or that's exclusive to any particular race or religion or anything.

00:26:41.360 That this is, you know, me being gay and Jewish does not impact my views on, you know, tax policy.

00:26:47.500 And that they have to address their own prejudices and realize that they simply disagree with what's, the reality is they disagree with what I'm promoting.

00:27:02.220 But it has nothing to do with who I am.

00:27:04.520 And that's what I'm trying to get across when I do that.

00:27:06.700 You also said lumping Milo in with typical conservatives.

00:27:12.700 Talk a little bit about that.

00:27:14.040 Oh, well, you know, to every gay conservative and every conservative, Milo's is controversial.

00:27:21.120 I appreciated him early on because he was kind of the Lady Gaga, the Madonna of our movement.

00:27:29.080 And, you know, if we went back a decade or so ago and he were a liberal, he'd be a media sensation.

00:27:36.140 His type of flamboyance and comedy is what South Park and Family Guy and liberal humor was.

00:27:45.300 And I appreciated that he pushed the boundaries of the freedom of speech limits, and he kind of exposed the fact that colleges were growing more intolerant.

00:27:56.000 But I don't always find him to be principled as a conservative.

00:28:02.940 I find him to be more of a contrarian, and that's fine.

00:28:05.240 There's a place for that.

00:28:06.480 But the reality is that I am compared to him, and every gay conservative is. 0.54

00:28:12.000 And we are, in a lot of ways, the concept that we are valid to begin with is based on him as a template, and they view him as a scam artist.

00:28:24.000 So one of the stereotypes that I fight all the time is that I'm doing this for attention or I'm doing this as a scam or a con, that this isn't really – I don't know what they think I'm gaining from it.

00:28:35.140 But that I'm doing this in a provocative way just to be provocative.

00:28:40.080 And so I find that frustrating.

00:28:42.560 And so when they look at Milo's sort of extreme expression, they say, well, that's just what conservatives are like.

00:28:49.740 He's just honest about it.

00:28:51.320 And it's frustrating because we spend so much of our time trying to dispel a lot of the mythology around that.

00:28:59.300 And you know what's interesting is this is what happens.

00:29:02.500 This is the difference between conservatives, hopefully conservatives and progressives.

00:29:06.340 One is a group hive mind that everybody has to be in a bucket and everybody is alike and there's no differences.

00:29:12.600 And hopefully libertarian conservatives, no, no, we're all different.

00:29:16.620 I don't answer for him and I don't agree with him, but we're kind of on the same side on this particular issue and we're not on this issue.

00:29:23.360 I applaud your article and your courage to say it.

00:29:26.600 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:29:33.040 Leon Wolf is the managing editor for TheBlaze.com and he's in to talk to us a little bit about Michael Cohen.

00:29:55.960 And also, if we have time, China and Canada, because this is this is extraordinarily revealing.

00:30:02.920 And I think China just caught on to what Donald Trump and America may actually be doing with this trade war.

00:30:10.000 Let's start with Michael Cohen.

00:30:12.240 Sure.

00:30:12.560 Let's do it.

00:30:13.660 So yesterday he was sentenced to three years.

00:30:16.500 Right.

00:30:17.560 And what is the important part of this to you?

00:30:21.120 The important part is is is not just Cohen, but of course, the company that produces the National Enquirer also basically entered a plea agreement.

00:30:29.240 So you have two two people now, both friendly to Trump, previously very loyal to Trump, who have admitted basically in sworn statements and plea agreements that they were ordered by Donald Trump to commit felonies.

00:30:42.540 Now, the National Enquirer came out and kind of changed their story a bit.

00:30:46.660 And it's my understanding that this one is we were working with the campaign, not necessarily Donald Trump directly, which changes it and makes it even more significant.

00:30:57.660 Does it not?

00:30:58.560 It does.

00:30:59.180 And so people people struggle to understand this.

00:31:01.800 And I was I was talking with with Jason Buttrell about this just before I came on here.

00:31:06.180 People don't understand why is this a campaign finance violation?

00:31:09.900 Can they prove that it came through the campaign?

00:31:11.720 It's actually the fact that the money didn't go through the campaign is what makes it a campaign finance violation, because it's a legitimate campaign expense to spend money to protect the reputation of the candidate.

00:31:22.000 Right.

00:31:22.860 But that's the purpose of the money expenditure.

00:31:24.920 If you're going to do that, you have to either declare it as a campaign expenditure or the people who make the expenditure have to report it as a contribution in kind.

00:31:33.420 One of those two things has to happen.

00:31:35.240 Neither of them did happen.

00:31:36.100 And it was clearly designed to evade the reporting requirements of the FEC.

00:31:39.900 And that's what makes it a campaign finance violation in this case.

00:31:42.900 And so they're both of them are making the case that they were doing this at a request from Donald Trump.

00:31:50.120 And so it's it's it is I understand this and you're a former attorney.

00:31:55.140 So you know, this is not only in campaign finance.

00:31:57.960 Yeah, I did.

00:31:58.440 I did campaign finance for over two years.

00:32:00.300 OK, that's almost exclusively what I did.

00:32:02.020 So when it comes to this, it's a felony, because if I told Stu, hey, go kill this person, I'm being held just as culpable for the for the murder as he is.

00:32:17.540 Correct.

00:32:18.080 Right.

00:32:18.920 And, you know, look, in any any campaign, any presidential campaign in particular, they're so large of a general election candidate.

00:32:25.400 You know, a serious candidate is going to probably have some campaign finance violations just just because it's such a difficult thing to keep up with and maintain 100 percent compliance.

00:32:34.140 But if you have a willful violation, as this appears to clearly have been, that's what brings into the level of out of, oh, we're just going to find you X number of dollars and people have to go to jail.

00:32:44.600 OK, so so let me give you let me take you through a couple of things.

00:32:47.940 First of all, Dinesh D'Souza, that was clearly a political hit.

00:32:52.200 Rosie O'Donnell was much worse. 1.00

00:32:54.500 You're saying an inconsistent application of the law.

00:32:57.260 Yes.

00:32:57.420 Yes.

00:32:57.760 What you're talking about there.

00:32:58.960 So, I mean, if you're going to put Dinesh D'Souza in prison, Rosie O'Donnell should have gone to prison as well.

00:33:03.060 She was much worse, did basically the same thing, except she knowingly was doing it, admittedly saying, you know, I'm using different names and everything else.

00:33:11.540 She knew exactly what she was doing.

00:33:13.980 Not a problem for Rosie O'Donnell. 1.00

00:33:17.700 When it comes to Barack Obama, campaign finance violations, I think it was $2 million campaign finance violation.

00:33:24.780 He paid a fine.

00:33:26.500 Why is this one different?

00:33:28.480 Because of what I just said.

00:33:30.400 I mean, I think the expectation is that in the in the course of handling all the various different donations and in recording all the donations in kind, you almost always miss some.

00:33:42.280 That's like an expected thing.

00:33:43.560 And then the FBC catches you and you file an amended statement and you pay a fine.

00:33:46.800 It's sort of like taxes, right?

00:33:47.660 Like they always say, like, you don't you have no idea if you're really filing everything perfectly.

00:33:51.900 And if they really look into it, they're going to find something that you screwed up, even completely unintentionally.

00:33:55.940 Right.

00:33:56.160 But with Al Capone, there was another set of books.

00:33:58.580 Exactly.

00:33:59.260 Exactly.

00:33:59.620 So the difference is between, oh, I had a good faith belief that I could claim this as an exemption and I hid $150,000 worth of income intentionally from the IRS.

00:34:09.760 Those are two different penalties.

00:34:11.540 So what is the Trump explanation for this?

00:34:17.500 So Trump's Trump's explanation is is it's a plausible one.

00:34:22.060 OK, I wouldn't laugh it out of court if I were a judge is that, you know, the money was not spent to protect his reputation as a candidate.

00:34:28.060 It was spent to protect his reputation with his family, prevent his wife and his kids from being embarrassed.

00:34:32.800 It is the Bill Clinton excuse.

00:34:35.100 Right.

00:34:36.460 And it kind of an interesting analogy.

00:34:38.580 You know, we've been through this once before.

00:34:40.320 Actually, people have already forgotten it, even though it's been less than 20 years ago.

00:34:43.620 But John Edwards, as you recall, was prosecuted for literally this exact same thing.

00:34:47.260 John Edwards had an affair.

00:34:48.200 He used campaign finance money to pay off his mistress to stay quiet.

00:34:52.040 He was prosecuted for this.

00:34:53.040 Now, ultimately, that was part of his argument to the jury, which was successful, at least in hanging the jury, was, you know, look, this is this is, you know, a it's a legitimate campaign expense because it's protecting my reputation as a candidate.

00:35:05.420 And B, you know, it's not a campaign finance violation because I have other interests that were involved that I'm trying to protect with that.

00:35:12.300 So, unfortunately, that one we didn't get like a court ruling on, like a judicial decision that sets a precedent as to whether that's a valid argument or not.

00:35:19.860 But there's at least an argument that a jury and look, John Edwards is not a sympathetic, was not a sympathetic guy.

00:35:25.500 His wife was dying of cancer.

00:35:27.120 OK, the jury had every reason to hate him and come down like a ton of bricks on him.

00:35:30.800 But for whatever reason, enough of them bought that on the jury that he ended up walking.

00:35:34.580 So I think it was a Washington examiner that kind of did a story on this and made the point of when a presidential candidate, for example, their example was goes to get a haircut.

00:35:44.880 You have to get a haircut to to, you know, to look good on camera.

00:35:47.700 And so he goes and he pays for his own haircut.

00:35:50.020 In theory, you could say that's a campaign finance violation because he's spending money to improve his candidacy. 0.93

00:35:55.600 But, of course, that would be completely ridiculous.

00:35:57.740 And if you go down that same line, is there a kind of a line of defense there?

00:36:01.540 Like, yes, he's he's spending money that will help him as a candidate in theory.

00:36:05.740 But this was more of a private thing.

00:36:07.560 And that's why it should have why they should overlook it.

00:36:10.340 I think Donald Trump could make a case he was more afraid of Melania than he was the American people.

00:36:15.360 It could be. It could be.

00:36:16.560 But the problem that he's going to face is going to be what did what did Cohen and the National Enquirer people tell the D.A.?

00:36:23.940 Right. What what did Donald Trump say to them?

00:36:26.580 And of course, a lot of that we don't know yet.

00:36:28.940 If if they have him saying this will destroy my campaign.

00:36:33.820 Right.

00:36:34.860 Then it's a different story.

00:36:36.840 Right. And that's and that's the big thing, because if it's just Cohen's word, it means nothing.

00:36:41.060 Yeah. But if it's the Cohen's if Cohen's word and the National Enquirer's word, it means nothing.

00:36:45.900 It means nothing.

00:36:46.900 But if they have texts and emails and recorded phone conversations, then it's different.

00:36:52.460 It could be big.

00:36:53.060 And that's and that is big because, you know, as we we say this, this is not part of the Mueller investigation.

00:36:58.040 Right. This is all Southern District of New York.

00:37:00.120 They have the policy.

00:37:01.160 They're not going to indict a sitting president.

00:37:02.600 This is all about what the House is going to do.

00:37:04.260 Right. And it's all about what the Democrats can convince people politically is an impeachable offense. 0.64

00:37:10.720 I mean, that's what impeachment is.

00:37:11.740 It's not a legal thing.

00:37:12.720 It's a political thing.

00:37:13.740 You're old forward said it best. 0.91

00:37:15.040 You've done you were a you were an attorney for campaign finance violations.

00:37:20.800 Impeachable offense.

00:37:22.020 This where it stands today.

00:37:25.040 Let me say this.

00:37:26.320 I've seen people prosecuted for less.

00:37:28.720 OK, but those people were not the president of the United States.

00:37:30.880 Right.

00:37:31.080 That's a that's a completely different.

00:37:32.380 It is a completely different ballgame.

00:37:33.860 OK, let me let me switch to China and Canada because there's something going on and most people are not paying attention to this.

00:37:41.680 China has now just disappeared a Canadian suit.

00:37:50.020 They got another one this morning.

00:37:51.220 They got another one.

00:37:52.080 Yes.

00:37:52.440 Explain who they are.

00:37:53.780 I I'm handicapped because I came and got off a plane and got right here.

00:37:58.000 So I don't know the particular but it's another it's a fairly low level.

00:38:00.820 It's not anybody who's on the level of the one that the Canadians, you know, snatched from the Chinese. 0.84

00:38:05.180 It's not like the CFO of a major company.

00:38:07.760 It's still more, I think, on on level of message sending than actual retaliation.

00:38:12.320 So what what happened is we said we there's a there's a Chinese official in Canada.

00:38:19.320 Sorry, his her father is high up in the Communist Party, but she runs a company that has been known to be dirty for a very long time, stealing all kinds of stuff from America.

00:38:30.980 Yeah. And so Donald Trump said we want to extradite it into the United States.

00:38:37.220 You can't go home.

00:38:38.500 China flipped out. 0.56

00:38:40.180 Now, China has just taken two business people from Canada and they're saying you better release ours because two can play at this game.

00:38:47.180 Uh, this is really, I think, what the what is really happening on China.

00:38:55.240 And this is the beginning of a very strong Cold War here between us.

00:39:01.560 We are saying it's the trade war is not just about the trade imbalance, right?

00:39:05.660 It is about stop stealing our stuff.

00:39:08.160 Right. So I'm you know, I have been waiting for someone to do something like this, like what Trump has done for a long time.

00:39:16.020 Like I'm not I've never thought tariffs were the answer.

00:39:18.640 I still don't think they're the answer.

00:39:19.740 But it is an issue, the Chinese theft of American intellectual. 0.95

00:39:25.360 They just have no respect for Western intellectual property.

00:39:28.120 It's a known problem.

00:39:29.280 It has been for years and years and years.

00:39:30.580 And we've all been screaming for the somebody needs to do something.

00:39:34.360 And now Trump has has done something.

00:39:36.600 I think that's that's a good first step.

00:39:38.220 But what we're seeing is that this is a very dangerous game to play.

00:39:41.660 Right. Because the Canadians, you know, Trudeau has got to go to his people and say, I have a reason for holding this CFO of, you know, China.

00:39:50.800 And Trump has got to come to the American people and say, we have a reason for this person we've arrested.

00:39:54.920 The Chinese government doesn't have to explain this to their own people.

00:39:58.400 They can snatch as many of our people and Canadians as they want and just disappear them off the street.

00:40:02.740 And they don't have to go and say, oh, you know, well, here's why.

00:40:06.100 There's just there's somebody's just gone.

00:40:07.680 And that's the concern is that there are a lot of American Canadian nationals over there.

00:40:12.380 If we start engaging in this tit for tat, who knows where that could end up?

00:40:17.560 Who knows where that could end up?

00:40:18.520 But it's an interesting first step in, you know, if it is a negotiating ploy.

00:40:23.500 We'll see how it works.

00:40:25.240 Real quick in 60 seconds.

00:40:28.240 Tell me what you think is going to happen in both of those cases where they leave this pure speculation.

00:40:33.760 I'm asking you to look in 2019, we're going to see impeachments in the House or just investigations?

00:40:40.440 I don't think so.

00:40:41.240 I don't think I don't think we're going to see impeachment proceedings in the House unless something else major comes out.

00:40:46.420 I don't think this campaign finance thing is going to be enough for the Democrats to roll the dice on that because you have to know Republicans are not going to buy this.

00:40:52.460 They have to know it's a dead end in the Senate no matter what happens.

00:40:55.240 If some other damaging information comes out, if Trump's approval rating dips down into the 20s, if the economy goes sour, maybe we see a different analysis.

00:41:07.020 But I doubt it.

00:41:08.800 Canada, China, United States, trade.

00:41:12.860 How does this get worse in 2019 to a happy ending or does it get worse and we're not headed towards a happy ending a year from now?

00:41:24.500 I'm cautiously optimistic that it's going to get better.

00:41:26.820 I think that both sides are at the point and there is dialogue that's going on.

00:41:31.460 I think both sides are at the point that they can still back away from the precipice on this one.

00:41:34.800 And I hope that that's what ends up happening.

00:41:36.760 But, you know, it is.

00:41:38.620 Listen, it is very important for us to protect our intellectual property rights.

00:41:42.340 And I hope that some I'm hopeful that some kind of deal will get worked out to where that will happen.

00:41:48.000 We both have a lot to lose.

00:41:49.600 And I think they have more to lose than we do.

00:41:52.740 Just on technology, at least today.

00:41:56.480 Now is the time to play this card if you're going to, if you're actually going to play it.

00:42:00.060 Leon, thank you very much.

00:42:00.860 Appreciate it.

00:42:04.520 This is the best of a Glenn Beck program.

00:42:07.400 Mackenzie Adams, a little girl who, she was nine and committed suicide.

00:42:21.360 I don't even know how that happens to a nine-year-old.

00:42:24.800 This story is so tragic on many levels.

00:42:29.160 Edwina Harris, the aunt of Mackenzie Adams, is with us now.

00:42:35.680 First of all, Edwina, our deepest, deepest sympathies go out to you and the family.

00:42:41.820 I cannot imagine what you guys are going through now.

00:42:44.440 Thank you.

00:42:45.560 It's been really hard.

00:42:48.320 So, first of all, tell me a little bit about Mackenzie.

00:42:53.340 Tell me who she was.

00:42:55.820 Mackenzie was a very bubbly little girl.

00:42:58.460 Very smart.

00:42:59.980 Very funny.

00:43:01.160 She liked to tell jokes like a granddad.

00:43:03.880 Love family.

00:43:05.300 Love to travel.

00:43:06.860 Zoo, go out to eat, the beach.

00:43:09.020 You know, just a really sweet, fun, and energetic kid.

00:43:14.540 So, she was being bullied in school.

00:43:20.740 And she was being bullied, if I'm not mistaken, because she was friends with a white kid?

00:43:27.760 Is that true?

00:43:29.540 That is true.

00:43:30.720 It's more to it, of course.

00:43:32.940 Because, you know, of course, she was a cute little girl, you know.

00:43:37.380 Had a lot of love.

00:43:38.640 You know, jealousy is not just what you have, but it's who you have around you as well.

00:43:45.100 So, that was some of it.

00:43:46.720 And the family that she wrote with loved her unconditionally, as if she was theirs, because

00:43:50.680 they only have one child as well.

00:43:52.860 So, she was like his sister.

00:43:54.380 They were really, really close.

00:43:55.720 And they would pick her up for school sometimes, and she would go in.

00:44:00.060 And was it white kids or black kids that were, or both, that were...

00:44:06.760 It was both.

00:44:07.400 There was bullying her.

00:44:08.120 It was both.

00:44:09.560 Oh, my gosh.

00:44:11.340 Man, does it ever get better in Alabama?

00:44:16.260 So, what was happening with the bullying that you can talk about?

00:44:24.400 Like, what was being said? 0.97

00:44:27.620 Basically, what you guys have read of, you know, the name called it a B, and black nigger, 1.00

00:44:34.100 and on papers, it would say, kill yourself, kill yourself, things like that. 0.99

00:44:38.080 Yeah, and of course, Mackenzie, you know, we come, our home, we're Baptists. 0.98

00:44:44.600 So, she comes from a faith-based home.

00:44:46.680 We, you know, we go to church.

00:44:48.200 We believe in God and faith and all those things.

00:44:51.160 So, what she did is not something that's taught, you know, that's not even something

00:44:55.240 that's even brought up, you know, as far as suicide and killing yourself and death and

00:45:01.080 things of that nature.

00:45:02.680 So, she's taught to love everybody.

00:45:05.000 But the bullying, you know, of course, my mom is a respected individual in this community,

00:45:09.900 which is something that has been lacking to be said because my mom has master's degrees. 0.97

00:45:14.360 She works for DHR and the mental health center as well.

00:45:18.160 So, the people that's in the school system has worked with my mom in one form or fashion

00:45:22.960 or another because my mom dealt in children's services. 0.79

00:45:26.480 So, the talks of bullying, my mom addressed because she knew about it.

00:45:31.080 And the talks of how to deal with it.

00:45:34.360 My mom was, these are the things that she's in her profession has always helped other people

00:45:40.000 get through.

00:45:41.340 So, it was a breaking point on that Monday that happened at school that had to have pushed

00:45:46.900 her there because she had a loving environment that she knew we're here.

00:45:52.540 Do you know what happened on Monday that pushed it over the edge?

00:46:00.940 That is something we are still working on.

00:46:03.040 I'm working diligently with Chief Austin to find that information out because, you know,

00:46:09.060 kids have their cell phones.

00:46:10.380 It's a lot of things that we're finding that we're still searching and trying to get final

00:46:17.080 answers about.

00:46:17.960 So, now, I read that she was a great student, hundreds on all of her tests.

00:46:24.840 But then, recently, that started to fall apart.

00:46:28.260 So, that was a warning sign that something was going on.

00:46:31.960 And she did talk to your mother.

00:46:34.120 And the mother did talk to the teachers, right?

00:46:37.920 Absolutely.

00:46:38.600 My mom went to the school.

00:46:40.060 My sister called the school.

00:46:42.560 My mom went up there a couple of times.

00:46:44.420 And, as I said, my mom worked with the schools in both cities because of her profession.

00:46:52.360 And they were more so of colleagues.

00:46:54.220 And so, she talked to them.

00:46:57.280 And they assured her that they would make sure that she would be fine.

00:47:00.020 She can come talk to them any time she wanted.

00:47:02.460 If anything was happening, Mackenzie just should let them know.

00:47:05.740 And that was to the assistant principal, to the counselor.

00:47:09.120 And my mom was not able to speak with one of the teachers, but she was able to speak to another one.

00:47:14.420 So, yeah, they assured my mom.

00:47:16.800 And my mom wouldn't keep sending my niece back if she didn't get that assurance from people that she's worked with before.

00:47:23.860 And the main bullying kid, he was suspended for bullying earlier, was he not?

00:47:31.460 Now, I don't know about suspension, but I do know he was put in in-school suspension.

00:47:36.620 Well, you know, in-school, the ISS, not completely suspended from school, which is what he needed to be expelled from school.

00:47:43.180 But he was put in in-school suspension, yes.

00:47:45.900 And with that came documentation, which my mother does possess, a carbon copy of that information where that incident took place when he was put in in-school suspension and my niece was wrote up for standing up for herself.

00:48:02.940 So, um, I can't, I just, I, I, you know, I have kids and, uh, at nine years old, I mean, I'm worried about my, you know, my, my 14 year old son and my 12 year old girl.

00:48:19.400 Uh, and I see the rate of suicide going through the roof and something is happening with our kids, but at nine it's, it's, this is just, it's stunning.

00:48:31.580 Um, and I've, I've been thinking about you guys and praying about you and your family, but I also feel so, uh, I'm so worried about her friend who, I mean, how is it?

00:48:49.400 Do you have any idea how the family is dealing with this?

00:48:53.540 So he doesn't feel like my friend, just because I was white or just because we were friends or whatever, the reason that she's dead now.

00:49:01.460 I, I just, this, this is such a tragedy.

00:49:05.460 He's actually at the beach right now.

00:49:07.300 They, uh, I don't, I'm not sure if they're going to return him, um, which I highly recommend.

00:49:13.280 And that's my recommendation for any parent that really feels in their heart that my mother did what she said, which was went to the school and reported it.

00:49:23.120 That if you feel in your heart that my mother did what she said, cause you know, my mom, everybody in this area knows my mom and my dad, their respective individuals in this County, um, to move your kids.

00:49:34.740 Um, because if this is what they want to say, what more will they do?

00:49:40.060 If it was your child, if your kids are feeling threatened at school, please move them.

00:49:46.160 Please move them because sending your kids out of your home from your protection to give them to someone that it will fail to protect them.

00:49:55.340 That is not a good feeling.

00:49:58.160 I am a mother.

00:49:59.000 I am also in the school systems in Atlanta as well.

00:50:02.100 And I take what I do very seriously.

00:50:05.060 When you have allowed your kids to leave your home and come into my possession, they're now my children and I'm going to protect them in every fiber of my being.

00:50:13.800 I am not a punk educator.

00:50:16.540 I am not scared of these kids that think that bullying is okay.

00:50:20.020 I stand up to these kids just as I did in high school.

00:50:22.480 When this happened, an outpour of people that I had protected from, I honestly have a guy because it was my heart to do that.

00:50:29.560 If I saw somebody being mistreated, I would step up for them, but I was also one of the popular kids.

00:50:35.100 So I was in band and cheerleading and different things like that.

00:50:37.640 But that was my duty in my position, just as I have one now in media in Atlanta to stand up and be this voice for those people that seem that can't do that.

00:50:47.200 And those individuals like you're doing, I don't know how this happened to your niece when all you did was took care of me all through high school, all through middle school or whatever the time frame it was that I protected those individuals.

00:50:58.620 And it wasn't just one or two.

00:50:59.800 It was, you know, 40, 50 different people there.

00:51:02.260 And I was like, oh, my God, girl, where are you?

00:51:04.300 You know, I forgot because that's just who I am.

00:51:07.080 That's just what my family, who my family is.

00:51:09.780 And for it to happen to my niece, it was heartbreaking because nobody stood up for my niece.

00:51:15.600 Nobody, the karma that we've done for people, the good, my niece had to suffer with this.

00:51:22.080 No teacher stood up like my mom and my dad and myself have stood up in the education system.

00:51:28.900 My aunts that are teachers and professors and, you know, doctors in education.

00:51:33.600 Nobody stood up for my niece.

00:51:35.600 Nobody stood up for my niece.

00:51:37.240 Nobody.

00:51:38.060 Really?

00:51:39.860 You have started a GoFundMe page called the McKenzie Foundation.

00:51:45.960 You can find it just by searching for McKenzie Foundation.

00:51:49.680 And you have a goal of $10,000.

00:51:52.600 You've already gotten $3,000.

00:51:54.880 And you want to focus not just on the bullied, but you also want to focus on the bully him or herself.

00:52:04.480 In what way?

00:52:06.560 Well, when this happened, some of those guys that I did go to school with and some people I didn't know, they said, well, Edwin, I just want to be honest with you.

00:52:16.700 I was the bully.

00:52:18.040 And the reason I'm telling you is because I trust you.

00:52:20.420 But I also read where the person that I used to bully in school was stating a story how their life is still in turmoil because they have been bullied for so long in school.

00:52:32.420 So it doesn't stop when you're an adult.

00:52:35.380 These things live with you for the rest of your life.

00:52:38.300 So said so many people that I've been reading that have been inboxing me.

00:52:42.280 So I want to bring in those people that have opened up to me and there was a bully.

00:52:47.380 Right now, I'm talking with them to see what was happening in your life at this time that made you feel that coming to school to bully someone else was okay.

00:52:56.360 And the story varies.

00:52:57.720 It's from things that happened with drug addiction.

00:53:00.640 It was a single parent home.

00:53:03.440 Other family members were bullying them.

00:53:05.380 So they came to school and bullied someone else.

00:53:07.240 So the bully has to heal first.

00:53:09.140 Because if we can target and help the bully, they won't bully someone else because it takes a bully for there to be bullying.

00:53:21.300 Edwina Harris, the aunt of Mackenzie Adams.

00:53:28.600 My wife and I wish we could be at the funeral on Saturday.

00:53:35.460 I don't know why.

00:53:36.200 I just feel so attached to Mackenzie and what she went through and the little boy as well.

00:53:46.440 And I just want you to know that you're in our thoughts and in our prayers and blessings to you and the family.

00:53:53.480 And may this turn out to be, in the long run, something that will bring honor to Mackenzie's name for a long, long time to come.

00:54:03.020 Yes, sir.

00:54:03.880 Thank you so much.

00:54:04.600 Thank you so much.

The Glenn Beck Program - December 13, 2018

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