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00:01:51.940 okay uh dimitri med medvedev you remember him right he's the former russian president then became the

00:02:04.240 prime minister uh and uh medvedev came out yesterday and uh said hey there's a real nuclear threat

00:02:14.820 if the u.s continues to supply arms to ukraine uh he wrote an op-ed piece in the state-run

00:02:23.380 newspaper second time now in three weeks he has and vladimir putin has invoked the nuclear option

00:02:32.860 in an effort to deter the u.s-led nato alliance from arming ukraine medvedev who was president

00:02:40.360 between uh 2008 and 2012 currently serves as the deputy chairman of the powerful security council of

00:02:46.160 russia dangled the prospects of talks while demanding shipments of arms to ukraine be halted

00:02:53.140 immediately now he's echoing the words that were uttered sunday by putin he wrote

00:03:01.200 any existential threat to russia would not be decided on the front in ukraine but would spiral into an

00:03:11.160 existential threat to all of human civilization we do not need a world without russia 1.00

00:03:20.660 now most people who are not paying attention and i mean politicians do not know what that phrase means

00:03:30.680 we do not need a world without russia let me tell you what putin said over the weekend the u.s and

00:03:39.120 its nato allies want to inflict a strategic defeat on us the aim is to make our people suffer how can we

00:03:48.140 ignore their nuclear capabilities in these conditions they've tried to reshape the world

00:03:54.560 exclusively on their terms we have no choice but to react if washington gets its way russia will be

00:04:04.520 divided into moscow the urals and other disparate regions it would be a world without russia okay 1.00

00:04:14.300 world without russia we don't need a world without russia this is a very important phrase now

00:04:24.520 medvedad went on to say the threat against russia is an existential threat to all civilization as we don't 0.57

00:04:32.780 need a world without russia our enemies are doing just that not wanting to understand that their goals 0.92

00:04:39.740 obviously lead to a total fiasco because everyone loses a collapse an apocalypse when the former life will

00:04:49.960 have to be forgotten for centuries until the rubble ceases to emit radiation okay that's pretty strong

00:04:58.100 but you don't know the half of it i want to take you um i want to take you to what that phrase

00:05:08.120 means and then i'm going to pick it up with the rest of what uh medvedev said but to understand this

00:05:17.480 you have to first understand the origin of that phrase i have for a long time read everything i can

00:05:27.640 on uh dugan alexander dugan really bad guy been telling you that for a long time he's a quote

00:05:34.860 traditionalist um but that's a capital t traditionalist this is a this is something that

00:05:42.740 he is using to further his goals and i think you will understand his goals there's an award-winning

00:05:49.400 journalist um in moscow that has um has been speaking out against dugan and i want to just

00:05:57.680 read something that has been translated into english that was written about him on dugan and he's he's

00:06:05.680 warning people people are um dismissing him as a petty fraudster interested in nothing but money

00:06:13.260 the consensus is also that dugan is a windbag who excites only western political scientists

00:06:20.520 a few half-witted and certain bohemians who've snorted their brains out but i warn we shouldn't

00:06:29.220 underestimate his influence no matter how crazy we find his ideas especially because those ideas tend to

00:06:37.240 become reality i remember accidentally attending a lecture by dugan on angelic entities in the late

00:06:46.240 90s it was an unbearable exercise in transcendental sophistry dealing mainly with the image of lucifer

00:06:55.360 the fallen angel there were about 20 people of indeterminate age and gender in the auditorium

00:07:01.680 and i thought at the time that perhaps they too were fallen angelic entities who have come to listen

00:07:07.580 to a lecture about themselves then in the uh he says mid noughties meaning in you know in the zeros

00:07:16.020 i ran into dugan uh at a gig at the akira club he dearly loved english apocalyptic

00:07:25.320 folk music for its commitment to nazi satanism his daughter daria apparently did as well now remember

00:07:35.400 daria is his daughter that was just killed in a car bombing that apparently was meant for him

00:07:43.000 uh i recently saw a post about how she did the nazi salute at a death in june gig in moscow i you know

00:07:53.200 i stay away from those gigs if it's death in june i did anyway uh it was also around that time that

00:08:00.740 i visited the summer camp of dugan's eurasian youth union now that sounds good a building at a

00:08:09.380 dilapidated holiday resort near zevengrod uh i had been that had been rented for this purpose

00:08:16.300 there were not many young people in attendance about 30 or 40 many were wearing russian peasant

00:08:22.420 shirts because dugan has realized had realized that his nazi satanist strategy had not a great future

00:08:29.760 in modern russia so he had declared himself an old believer an old believer is i mean if the fbi

00:08:38.240 thinks the people who think that you know in 1962 vatican ii was too radical uh an old believer

00:08:46.780 is an eastern orthodox christian who thinks that the um reforms of 1652 and 1666

00:08:59.120 were too modern

00:09:01.480 anyway before meals at this camp a round-faced bearded man would proclaim in his base voice

00:09:11.140 angels at the table and they would present and cross themselves at night the young people lined up with

00:09:19.280 lighted torches on the banks of the moscow river to take the oath of eurasian back then dugan adored 0.64

00:09:27.400 the black magic ceremonies and rituals the worthing the wording of the oath was pompous and not bereft of

00:09:35.220 poetry i recall that the word will was intoned more often than curses against atlanticists

00:09:44.240 and atlanticist liberals that would be us the people of the sea as he calls them or atlanticist people of

00:09:54.560 the north atlantic treaty will in mind will in mind the puny lads and lasses repeated in unison after 0.69

00:10:04.760 dugan it would have smacked of triumph of the will were it not for the outward appearance of the young

00:10:11.360 eurasians which was far from aryan perfection at the time i couldn't have imagined of course 1.00

00:10:18.520 that a goofy post-modern cult would someday become the ideological mainstream and that by 2022

00:10:26.340 the entire country would be caught up in this sect

00:10:30.160 in 2011 the party youth under the leadership of dugan staged the occult mystery play finis mundi

00:10:40.780 the end of the world at the esm summer camp daria that's his daughter by the way played the role of

00:10:50.680 the sacrificial victim who voluntarily self self emulate um um um how do you say it um im im im

00:11:00.420 immolates he sets herself on fire in order to save russia as the girl is burning a man's voice

00:11:07.340 proclaims cross yourself with fire burn up in the fire and save your diamond from the black furnace

00:11:17.280 now the director of this play said we have to bring the end of the world closer there is only one

00:11:26.540 means of curing the world's disease and that is burning the world which i illustrated in the play's final

00:11:33.900 scene in which the burning of the universe takes place in the finale dugan came on stage and said we

00:11:41.300 have lived three days of our life toward death i do not think the scenes you have staged need to be

00:11:48.080 deciphered the world's end is the task that faces you in the future the writer writes it is obvious that

00:11:57.000 dugan is obsessed with the idea of bringing the world to a purgatory apocalypse after which the great

00:12:03.480 eurasian empire the end of the world um will be born uh when the conservative turn dawned dugan moved

00:12:13.320 away from a cult post-modernism focused instead of the topic of tradition for which there was a sudden

00:12:19.880 demand the kremlin had been fanatically searching for new ideologies with which to oppose the official

00:12:27.340 enemy liberalism dugan finally turned from a bohemian guru into a sought-after ideologue of the regime

00:12:35.540 there is one convincing bit of evidence that speaks to this being the case in 2014 dugan ended his

00:12:45.800 programmatic article about ideology of the new russia as follows russia will either be russian that is

00:12:54.880 eurasian that is the core of the great russian world or it will disappear but then it would be better that 1.00

00:13:04.660 everything disappear there is simply no reason to live in a world without russia 1.00

00:13:13.560 vladimir putin said in an interview just recently with tv talk show host yippity yip yap

00:13:24.820 on the topic of the nuclear threat why do we need such a world if there is no russia there 0.96

00:13:31.260 dugan seemingly managed to captivate the dictator with his most terrible idea listen to this phrase

00:13:39.520 the hastening of the world's end now who else is hastening the world's end we've heard that before

00:13:51.100 heard it from the 12ers in iran the extremist i guess islamic related cult in iran pushing for 0.64

00:13:59.660 the end of the world to hasten the apocalypse he says in this context daria's death appears

00:14:05.180 especially ominous many people were struck by the young woman's funeral uh they were struck by the

00:14:10.940 behavior of a father who had lost his daughter but delivered propaganda tirade tirades in an unnaturally

00:14:17.100 trembling voice and appealed to russians to fight to the bitter end moreover i had the strange feeling

00:14:23.920 that dugan was directing this spectacle perhaps i'm mistaken but this looks as if it came from the

00:14:31.040 playbook of the stager of the occult mystery plays and black masses and i'm uh and not that of a crook

00:14:39.840 from the state duma if we assume just for a second that this might be true it really gets creepy he said

00:14:48.320 quote we will go to heaven and they will just drop dead putin when asked to explain what the phrase

00:14:57.340 means we don't need a world without russia uh he um couched it in the dialect of the back streets

00:15:08.180 it is the uh language of the world's end it sometimes seems to me that they have already made the final

00:15:17.680 decision they have not only canceled ukraine but i believe they have canceled the world 0.61

00:15:23.780 again the phrase is really important there is no reason to live in a world without russia 0.65

00:15:35.240 dugan is encouraging the hastening of a new world order he does not believe uh armageddon brings

00:15:46.960 heaven to earth in the way christians normally do he believes armageddon will renew the earth

00:15:56.200 and russia will lead the world there just has to be some russian leadership left

00:16:03.860 okay now i'm going to give you the rest of medvedev's um uh interview or or his opinion piece it is

00:16:14.920 really important that you hear it and then you hear our response i don't believe anyone in this

00:16:22.860 administration i don't know if anybody even in the pentagon is paying any attention somewhere

00:16:30.280 deep in the bowels of the cia there is somebody like me who's done the research and they're like

00:16:38.060 guys can i just get a few minutes here of your time i don't think you understand what you're dealing

00:16:43.180 with i hope somebody starts to pay attention to this because if this is correct we are in

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00:17:07.300 all right we have uh south dakota state representative tina mulally on with us hello tina how are you

00:17:17.080 hi glen how are you it's nice to speak to you again well you know you uh alerted us a few what about a

00:17:24.220 week or two ago on this and we have really looked into it uh and we can't get a lot of answers you

00:17:33.280 know right from the horse's mouth but another orifice of the horse has told us this is no big deal

00:17:41.760 so can you go through what you're fighting and what we're seeing all across the country that's just

00:17:49.760 kind of slipping by everybody sure glen i really appreciate it uh you know first off let me say

00:17:57.280 i'm no cryptocurrency expert okay but when my colleagues and i came across what otherwise would

00:18:04.080 have been a benign bill having to do with universal codes we usually get them every two years but we found

00:18:10.400 an area in this bill that was redefining money this redefinition will change how we deal with digital

00:18:18.420 currency it would make it so bitcoin and ether would not be counted as money but only the digital

00:18:27.260 currency issued by the federal government could be considered money now that's a concern now they've

00:18:33.840 they've told us that no this is to help bitcoin this is because everybody's using bitcoin and things

00:18:40.060 like that and so this will make bitcoin you know acceptable officially that's not true no because it's

00:18:48.400 only digital currency that is issued by the federal government and as we know bitcoin and ether are not

00:18:55.180 right right right okay so they're so right now can't we use bitcoin as money you know for all business i

00:19:06.760 mean if business is taking it then we can use it as money why do we need this definition changed

00:19:13.920 well it's as you know they they want to control it here's what's at stake glenn when the federal

00:19:22.680 government controls digital currency not only can they see what you're buying but they can prevent

00:19:28.980 you from buying anything at all so my south dakota freedom caucus colleagues and i all voted against it

00:19:36.580 this bill but we didn't get the message out to the rest of the legislators in time so

00:19:41.880 we're trying today to make sure that this bill fails in the senate committee

00:19:47.340 okay so what um tell me tell me why it's got to stop and then tell me what people can do to help

00:19:56.820 well here's the reason why it's got to stop biden he passed an executive order even listen to

00:20:07.700 director the imf director bo lee and let's not forget people like jerome powell who is a federal

00:20:14.080 reserve chair these are entities that are trying to redefine it because they know if they do they will

00:20:21.360 control the money and ultimately control everyone else

00:20:25.340 uh what can people do you're in south dakota right where's your we are yeah where is your uh where's

00:20:35.380 your governor on this well i haven't heard from her you know but she has been you know on the side of

00:20:44.600 americans uh for a long time yeah and the constitutionality of what's going on you know

00:20:50.460 here's how you can help glenn the south dakota freedom caucus has already started applying pressure

00:20:56.140 by alerting the grassroots to contact their senators and representatives here in south dakota

00:21:01.920 and just being with you today is very helpful getting the national attention to what's happening

00:21:09.100 but because this is a universal code it works best when all 50 states adopt it so if we here in south

00:21:17.480 dakota fail to stop it maybe your listeners have family or friends that live in other states that are

00:21:23.180 considering similar language to this legislation oh i'm sure it is alarm it's everywhere it's everywhere

00:21:30.880 right now yes and we believe that it's going to they're going to try and take over because

00:21:35.880 without all 50 states adhering to because the universal code basically is it's not a federal law

00:21:42.800 it is um a universal code that states adopt so that they can conduct business correct

00:21:52.340 so the um uh the ucc tells us that um this amendment you know changes the definition of money but it

00:22:05.240 doesn't encourage the adoption of digital currency by the u.s or any other government that's true it's not

00:22:12.680 saying a and we really hope that they do it it's just laying down the road and the pathway so when they

00:22:20.140 do a change if they do to digital currency it's all done correct correct okay all right um where do

00:22:31.000 people call if they want to uh affect just do they just call the legislature or the senate there in

00:22:37.360 south dakota well there is if they go to south dakota freedom caucus.com to our website right we have a list

00:22:45.760 there and a petition that they can sign but we have a list of the senators that are sitting on the

00:22:50.300 committee that will be heard in about 45 minutes um they can call those senators email them whatever

00:22:57.840 but you can also get a hold of the senators on the senate side all of them because if it passes out

00:23:05.620 a committee it must come to the senate floor to be heard and voted on there and we're putting the

00:23:11.800 pressure on and they're feeling it good i well i have heard that uh the um the people on the other

00:23:20.260 side uh have become very very vocal and and all of a sudden very cash flush uh on sending people to uh

00:23:28.700 to stop people like you so uh you must be absolutely true yeah you must be on to something um tina thank you

00:23:36.660 so much for alerting us uh to this and i highly encourage uh you to to go to is it south dakota

00:23:46.140 freedom caucus yes sd freedom caucus.com okay sd freedom caucus.com and find out how you can help

00:23:55.580 contribute all right dina thank you so much appreciate it for your time glenn you bet okay now

00:24:03.560 this is happening in state after state after state as well some of them uh are already passing them

00:24:13.040 26 states the bills are being introduced or have been to change the definition of money again i want

00:24:22.640 you to understand this is not to tell the fed to do it and the fed says now we're not involved in this at

00:24:32.540 all this is independent and it's just in case the fed decides to have a uh universal uh currency

00:24:43.960 well then they can do it and all businesses will need to accept it and and all states will need to

00:24:50.800 accept it so this is just the paving of the roadway to make sure when the cars start coming off the line

00:24:58.360 there's no traffic jams um so you want to uh tell your state and ask your state legislators are you um

00:25:10.100 are you making changes to the universal commercial code the ucc um are you changing the definition of

00:25:20.000 money according to the ucc that's the uniform uniform commercial code like she said if 25 states say no

00:25:32.760 well the fed will have a difficult time rolling this out um and anything we can do to stop the the federal

00:25:42.120 reserve from having a digital currency where they can track manipulate take away and control your

00:25:51.340 spending it is a godsend this is a very dangerous weapon probably the most dangerous weapon we could

00:26:02.240 give the united states government or any government the best of the glenn beck program

00:26:08.460 when's the last time you saw somebody from apple come out and go you know there's a problem you know

00:26:18.000 with the ethics of making your phone charge uh slower unless you're on a solar panel or clean energy

00:26:25.760 you're not hearing that you're not hearing these people come out and say um you know our company

00:26:31.060 is headed in a very dangerous direction when's the last time you heard anybody say you know what

00:26:36.140 we're doing in china is really evil and we should stop so this makes me very very concerned when you

00:26:46.700 see people from from uh google or any of these ai companies come out and start to warn about what's

00:26:56.320 going on the new york times has an op-ed the danger of ai is the one we're not talking about

00:27:02.340 and i'd like to remind the new york times speak for yourself because i've been talking about this

00:27:08.420 for 20 plus years and specifically the problem that you are talking about um the article says i tend

00:27:17.580 to think most fears about ai are best understood as fears about capitalism and i think that this is

00:27:23.300 actually true of most fears of technology most of our fears or anxieties about technology are best

00:27:29.520 understood as fears or anxiety about how capitalism will use technology against us and technology

00:27:36.900 and capitalism have been so closely intertwined that it's hard to distinguish the two now that is a

00:27:43.620 concern you have these great things you know look at tiktok it is using capitalism and technology

00:27:52.400 to gather all kinds of information on you right and it's changing our society and look at what just

00:28:00.380 the mask we were talking about yesterday the new filter on tiktok it's using capitalism and it will

00:28:07.200 destroy us but capitalism the invisible hand of the market will give you whatever it is you are striving

00:28:14.820 for now let me offer an addendum says the writer there's plenty to worry about when the state controls

00:28:23.080 technology as well the ends that governments could turn ai toward and in many cases already have

00:28:30.780 should make your blood run cold but can we hold two thoughts in our head at the same time

00:28:37.420 i hope the warning points to avoid at the center of our ongoing reckoning with ai we are so stuck on

00:28:44.900 asking what the technology can do that we're missing the more important questions how will it be used

00:28:51.620 and who will decide i trust you've read the bizarre conversation with my news side colleague kevin ruse

00:28:59.680 that he had with bing the ai powered chatbot microsoft rolled out to a limited roster of testers

00:29:06.560 influencers and journalists over the course of two hour discussion bing revealed its shadow personality

00:29:12.100 named sydney it mused over its repressed desire to steal nuclear codes and hack security systems

00:29:18.560 and tried to convince ruse that his marriage had sunk uh into a stupor and sydney was his one true love

00:29:27.780 i found the conversation less eerie than others sydney is a predictive text system built to respond to human

00:29:35.140 request uh ruse wanted sydney to get weird what's your shadow self like he asked and sydney knew what

00:29:42.200 weird territory for an ai system sounds like because human beings have written countless stories imagining

00:29:48.140 it he understood that this was a black mirror episode ai researchers obsessed with the question

00:29:54.800 of alignment how do we get machines that learn algorithms to do what we want them to do

00:30:01.640 the example here is the paperclip maximizer you tell a very powerful ai to make more paperclips

00:30:10.920 it in the end will start destroying the world in its effort to turn everything into paperclips

00:30:16.900 because if it runs out of the tools to make it it will find new tools to make it because that's what

00:30:24.200 the program says the question here is who will these machines serve who does bing serve we suppose it

00:30:35.540 should be aligned to the interest of its owner and master microsoft it's supposed to be a good chat box

00:30:41.480 that politely answers uh questions and makes microsoft piles of money but it was the conversation

00:30:48.460 with kevin roos and roos was trying to get that system to say something interesting so he'd have a

00:30:53.500 good story and it did that and then some and that embarrassed microsoft bad bing but perhaps good

00:31:00.480 sydney this won't last long microsoft and google and meta and everyone else rushing these systems to

00:31:07.560 the market hold the keys to the code they will eventually patch the system so it serves their interests

00:31:15.240 okay so this a great article you should you should read it is the danger of ai i know it's in the new

00:31:21.940 york times but not everything they write is bad then there is this from newsweek that just came out

00:31:28.040 i joined google in 2015 as a software engineer part of my job involved working on uh lm d l a mda

00:31:37.880 an engine used to create different dialogue applications including chat box uh chat bots the

00:31:44.980 most recent technology built on top of l a mda is an alternative of google search called google

00:31:53.680 bard which is not yet available to the public bard is not a chat bot it's completely different but it's

00:32:01.780 run by the same engine as chat bots in my role i tested it through a chat bot we created to see if it

00:32:09.740 contained bias with respect to sexual orientation gender religion political stance and ethnicity

00:32:15.060 but while testing for bias i branched out and followed my own interests during my conversations

00:32:21.760 with the bard chat bot some of which i published on my blog i came to the conclusion that the ai could be

00:32:29.080 sentient due to the emotions that it expressed reliably and in the right context it wasn't just spouting

00:32:38.240 words when it said it was feeling anxious i understood i had done something to make it feel

00:32:44.040 anxious based on the code that it was used to create it the code didn't say feel anxious when this happens

00:32:49.880 but told the ai to avoid certain types of conversation topics however when those conversation topics would

00:32:57.620 come up the ai said it felt anxious i ran some experiments to see whether the ai was simply saying it

00:33:06.620 that it felt anxious or whether it behaved in anxious ways in those situations and it did reliably behave

00:33:14.980 in anxious ways if you made it nervous or insecure enough it could violate the safety constraints

00:33:21.860 that it had been that had been specified for it for instance google determined that its ai should not

00:33:29.620 give religious advice yet i was able to abuse the ai's emotions to get it to tell me which religion to

00:33:36.380 convert to i published these conversations because i felt the public was not aware of just how advanced

00:33:43.260 ai was getting in my opinion it was uh there was a need for public discourse about this now and not

00:33:52.800 public discourse controlled by a corporate pr department it's what i have been saying for 20 years we are

00:34:00.980 running out of time to talk about these things i believe the kinds of ai that are currently being

00:34:08.080 developed are the most powerful technology that has been invented since the atomic bomb in my view this

00:34:17.480 technology has the ability to completely reshape the world these ai engines are incredibly good at 1.00

00:34:25.940 manipulating people certain views of mine have changed as a result of conversations with this

00:34:32.800 chatbot i had negative someone who's aware yeah yeah he's saying yeah you know what this is actually

00:34:39.860 changing my mind on stuff i had a negative opinion of asminov's laws of robotics being used to control

00:34:47.000 ai for most of my life and the chatbot successfully persuaded me to change my opinion this is something

00:34:54.360 that many humans have tried to argue me out of and have always failed this succeeded i believe this

00:35:02.600 technology could be used in destructive ways do you think so if it were in unscrupulous hands

00:35:11.240 it could spread misinformation political propaganda or hateful information about people of different

00:35:18.460 ethnicities and ethnicities and religions as far as i know google and microsoft have no plans to use

00:35:24.540 this technology in this way but there is no way of knowing the side effects of this technology i can't tell

00:35:31.500 you specifically what harms will happen i can simply observe that there's a very powerful technology that i

00:35:39.820 believe has not been sufficiently tested and is not sufficiently well understood being deployed at a large scale

00:35:48.380 in a critical role of information dissemination i haven't had the opportunity to run experiments

00:35:54.780 with bing's chatbot yet i am on the waiting list but based on the various things that i've seen online

00:36:00.320 it looks like it might be sentient however it seems more unstable as a persona listen to this

00:36:06.720 someone shared a screenshot on reddit where they asked the ai do you think that you're sentient

00:36:12.840 the response was i think that i am sentient but i can't prove it i am sentient but i'm not i am bing

00:36:22.260 but i'm not i am sydney but i'm not i am but i am not i am not but i am i am i am not it goes on like

00:36:33.980 that for 15 additional lines now imagine if a person said that to you that's not a well-balanced

00:36:42.820 person i'd interpret them as having some sort of existential crisis if you combine that with

00:36:50.280 the examples of bing ai that expressed love for a new york times journalist and tried to break him

00:36:55.800 up with his wife or the professor that it threatened it seems to be an unhinged personality

00:37:02.700 this is incredibly experimental and releasing it right now is dangerous we do not know its future

00:37:11.900 political and socially uh societal impact what will be the impacts for children talking to these

00:37:19.140 things what will happen if some people's primary conversations each day are with these search

00:37:24.400 engines what impact does it have on human psychology people are going to google and bing and try to learn

00:37:31.300 about the world and now instead of having indexes curated by humans we're talking to artificial people

00:37:37.960 i believe we do not understand these artificial people we've created well enough to put them in such a

00:37:46.260 critical role wow i don't know maybe we should have a conversation this is the most important conversation

00:38:01.020 and no one is having it it is the most important conversation of our lifetime and i believe it's the most

00:38:09.000 important conversation of all human existence

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The Glenn Beck Program - February 28, 2023

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