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00:03:24.840i'm sorry i just got a joke to a place of places riddled with add oh my gosh how would you say
00:03:30.480riddled with add and i've got a lot to cover today i'm going to come back to america's 250
00:03:34.760because i have a few things to say to people like martina mcbride and i love you martina i love you
00:03:39.180do but pony up with some evidence here uh i'd like to know what you're talking about we'll get
00:03:45.980into that a little later um uh but also i i i've got to stop here there's two stories one comes
00:03:52.340from the supreme court and the other one comes from the huffington post huffington post is very
00:03:56.220angry right now because the word retard is making a comeback uh what a surprise um it you know0.97
00:04:03.820they're saying oh this is this is an ugly descriptor that you're retarded okay it's making1.00
00:04:11.840an unfortunate comeback yeah yeah it is it is you know you notice you don't say that about imbecile1.00
00:04:17.800or moron, but that's why the word retarded came in, because retarded is a progressive1.00
00:04:26.680clinical term, okay? Because scientists said, if you have severe intellectual disability,1.00
00:04:36.380if you're severely retarded, is what we would have said, you're an idiot. That's what the1.00
00:04:41.940medical term was you're an idiot if you're moderately retarded you're an imbecile if you1.00
00:04:49.420have mild intellectual retardation you're a moron okay so it was idiot imbecile and moron and1.00
00:04:57.040everybody started calling people you're a moron you're an idiot you're an imbecile and the people1.00
00:05:00.240oh no no that's not what that means that's so offensive and nobody was hurt by being called1.00
00:05:08.020a moron okay uh you got over it um and so then retard and so everybody's like i mean i i grew0.98
00:05:17.460up in a world where retard everything was either gay or retarded and it didn't mean gay or retarded0.99
00:05:22.340okay uh and and everybody was wringing their hand clutching their pro we can't use that word1.00
00:05:27.880so they replaced it they replaced idiot imbecile and moron with retardation or retarded okay because1.00
00:05:37.620it was humane and scientific. Then the same thing happened because you didn't change people and you1.00
00:05:44.520didn't change the meaning, you know? And so you started saying, well, these are intellectually
00:05:48.340disabled people. They're developmentally disabled. They're people of special needs. And you know
00:05:53.340what? Guess what? Guess what? People of special needs is now not welcome in professional settings.
00:06:02.460it's an insult now wait i thought that was to replace the insult of retarded0.85
00:06:08.740you can't just replace words okay you just you can't because if society doesn't change then the0.79
00:06:18.560new word just means what the old word meant and then you're going to have to constantly0.98
00:06:22.460it's lather rinse repeat lather you know what it is it's it's retardation it shows retardation0.99
00:06:31.340you're slow you're slow okay so i couldn't i couldn't take it anymore and i am so tired of0.99
00:06:40.840the word police and when huffington post came out and they were like oh you know what we're so very
00:06:46.280upset about the word i decided i'm gonna write an open letter to the word police okay
00:06:54.940and i took some time crafting this because i feel it deeply0.82
00:07:03.220so here it is dear retarded language enforcers professional offense takers and euphemism0.82
00:07:12.980evangelists oh how i've missed you but there you are melting down in perfectly choreography0.94
00:07:21.440uh choreographed uh outrage because the word retarded is making a comeback and not just any0.96
00:07:27.980comeback but a glorious unapologetic full speed ahead retardation of your carefully constructed0.94
00:07:34.440news speak empire oh the sheer panic on your face i mean it is a chef's kiss really it's like0.98
00:07:43.700watching somebody try to put toothpaste back into the tube while the tube itself is retarded0.88
00:07:49.040But let me be clear. Since clarity seems to be a retarded concept in your circle, words are not violence. They are syllables with baggage. And retarded has been carrying its suitcase through the English language for decades now, describing everything from developmental delays to your entire approach to public discourse.0.94
00:08:16.020Now, you've spent years trying to retire it.1.00
00:08:20.500You have replaced it with increasingly retarded alternatives.1.00
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00:19:50.580taryn what an honor it is to have you on the phone and on the show thank you for joining
00:19:58.360thank you for having me uh it must be a little surreal to be on the program because if you had
00:20:08.100your viewpoint uh and you knew anything about me the last place you would want to be is on a show
00:20:15.580like mine uh so again congratulations uh for having even the bravery to do this can you can
00:20:23.520you explain who you were before your change how deeply into this were you yeah so i think it
00:20:32.500starts before october 7th that i used to be a black lives matter activist like when i'm 16 years
00:20:39.260old this was like during quarantine um 2020 right after george floyd got killed and i remember seeing
00:20:46.340like Palestinian flags, like at our Black Lives Matter protests. And so when I saw this, I would0.90
00:20:54.840ask our leaders, like, you know, why, you know, why are Palestinian flags here? And they would say
00:21:00.340that, you know, for us to be free, Palestine has to be free. And, and they would utilize the same0.99
00:21:07.120words. Even now we're seeing the same language of apartheid, dispossession, colonization. And it
00:21:14.000It, like, kind of struck me as, like, a Black woman, and I think more so just because of identity politics and kind of, like, I, like, mistook that familiarity for understanding this conflict and had some intellectual shortcuts when it comes to, like, understanding this, like, very complex and nuanced history and just, like, compressing it into, like, an oppressor versus oppressed, you know, narrative.
00:21:40.180so you went from leading some of these rallies at Stanford being part of the Stanford encampment
00:21:49.080etc etc and then you had a change of heart and it started if I'm not mistaken it started because
00:21:54.580you were actually looking to disprove something correct tell me about this experience what
00:22:02.300happened yeah and so then um i would want to say like give context on what had happened on
00:22:10.060stanford's campus because like i think that led me to pull away from the movement itself
00:22:14.100was specifically after october 7th um by october 20th stanford already put up its encampment
00:22:22.500a sentence to stop the genocide um this is before the finish the families had even finished
00:22:28.680identifying it's dead it's this is a week before um a single soldier had even crossed into gaza
00:22:37.080and so we were already labeling it a genocide and so we knew how the story was going to end
00:22:42.760and we were already protesting and there was no time that was spent to even grieve those that
00:22:51.040lost their lives and if you did grieve and mourn publicly you were immediately outcasted and you
00:22:58.220lost your social belonging and so i was very like i i felt like i wanted a two-state solution
00:23:05.720but i was just very like i never wanted to talk about it with anyone because everyone was anti-zionist
00:23:11.340and it felt that you had to like the safest position was the most radical one and so at one
00:23:19.240of our protests at one of our protests uh in june of 2024 they broke into the stanford university's
00:23:26.000president's office and cost seven hundred thousand dollars in damages 12 students received felonies
00:23:31.000and they spray painted like disgusting things such as death to israel death to america kill cops0.89
00:23:37.220pigs taste best when dead and this is i was just confused on like where is gaza in any of that you0.98
00:23:47.860know and um i we completely lost sight of like who we were claiming to be fighting for and at
00:23:55.080At some point, our pro-Palestine movement became more of an anti-Israel, anti-American one, and I no longer could recognize what we were doing anymore.
00:24:04.340And I think so once students got felonies, I like took a step back from the movement and and it allowed me to receive an invitation to the Nova Music Festival exhibit that's right now being hosted in London.0.99
00:24:19.680um yeah and I went going in wanting to investigate because I I thought I would find like Zionist0.63
00:24:28.260propaganda and Zionist lies and I wanted to reaffirm my pro-Palestine position more than
00:24:34.120anything um but that wasn't what I came across I found instead you know half written I love you's
00:24:43.920and last messages sent to parents and loved ones.
00:25:08.960and flattened them into this political narrative.0.87
00:25:11.900And in doing so, we killed them a second time.
00:25:13.920And it's, and I just like, I think it was just very tragic for me to realize that.
00:25:20.000And I think one of the audio recordings that we had heard was a terrorist calling his dad, saying that he had killed 10 Jews with his own bare hands and celebrating.
00:25:33.100And I thought I was going to hear horror.
00:25:35.300And instead, the dad congratulated his son.
00:25:38.380Put mom on the phone, if I'm not mistaken.
00:25:40.940Yes. And the mom was on the phone saying, I wish I was there with you. And so I was, so this is our resistance. This was who we were calling our martyrs, that they were explicitly saying that they wanted to kill Jews with their own hands. And I'm just, I, again, I always call myself an anti-Zionist, but not anti-Semitic. And that completely deconstructed that.
00:26:03.020let's just stop for a second i i really want to meet you i hope i get to meet you someday
00:26:12.600i just have so much respect for you i just want to give you a hug thank you for being honest
00:26:16.680thank you was was there was there a moment um because i after after this happened it was what
00:26:27.600six months after i called um people in israel and asked to see the evidence and they brought it from
00:26:36.340israel um and um i sat in my office with a couple of people ricky was one weren't you in it or did
00:26:44.180you not i actually declined declined yeah um and uh i sat in with a couple of people and we saw all
00:26:51.180of the video we saw 90 minutes of the videos and it was it was horrific it was horrific um
00:26:59.400was there a moment inside this because I don't know exactly if they showed you everything that
00:27:04.960we saw was was there one moment that made you go I I am on the wrong side was it that phone call
00:27:11.780i i i want to say like you know i i'm i admire that you had went out to find it like to look
00:27:22.240for the evidence six months after because it took me a year to finally attend this funeral and um
00:27:30.480i i i feel when i was watching and reading their stories it's just more so that like
00:27:40.240that could have been anyone like that could have been your kids that could have been my friends
00:27:44.900and like the fact that their faces just look so ordinary just smiling um and the stuff that they
00:27:52.280left behind from like baby bottles to strollers to like uh a calculator I just like I I was like
00:28:01.500of course like you know a Stanford student would bring a calculator to like a music festival and
00:28:06.420And it's just, like, that's why I really hope that more people can attend that Nova Music Festival exhibit if it comes to your area.
00:28:13.980Because it, like, it takes you out of social media and, like, just, you know, reading about it, hearing about it.
00:28:22.360And you get to visually see and, like, feel and pick up with your own hands the artifacts of that day.
00:28:27.320And it's just, yeah, it's just not the same at all.
00:28:29.760I just like, like I said, like you take 20 minutes to go through this exhibit and you come out a different person and you just know that in your heart that.
00:28:45.940So, so you, you left, I assume you went back into a meeting with your friends. And did you express this? Did you say, Hey, I can't be a part of this? Or do you try to convince them? And, and what happened to you?
00:29:01.520right so right after visiting the exhibit i i i plan i had planned to talk to my friends about
00:29:09.920this i i immediately i didn't talk to my friends i knew that yeah i didn't because i knew that like
00:29:20.800expressing any hesitancy or like doubts or questions was to like risk my social belonging
00:29:27.880and like risk my friend group and I was genuinely scared you know um yeah yeah it's just
00:29:36.300oftentimes it that pressure to feel like you're one of the good ones and the that you want to be
00:29:46.180like like I feel like nothing recruits more than wanting to be on the right side of history like
00:29:50.440what you're what you were mentioning mentioning about David Horowitz and so I just like yeah sorry
00:29:57.540um so it's it's my friends like i knew that they were going to see this as like a moral
00:30:05.180a moral failure rather than like a me expanding my empathy beyond having a selective empathy of
00:30:13.740like which certain deaths matter versus which don't and i that was the way that we were operating
00:30:18.600within the encampment and so now i have like a greater empathy and to mourn that publicly i was
00:30:25.680genuinely scared. And so I decided to like withhold my beliefs and like what I was thinking
00:30:30.700and my doubts to myself. And, um, the people that had, had went to that exhibit, uh, were invited
00:30:38.640by Hillel, uh, to go to Israel. And I decided to go and to see for myself, like what's reality
00:30:45.980like on the ground. And I think like, once I went to Israel, it made me realize I need to
00:30:51.620start speaking up about this you're listening to the best of the glenn beck podcast hear more of
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00:31:01.920who do you want to be when you grow up who do you want to be when you grow up who do you hope in the
00:31:08.000time of trouble you are i i think i just met somebody i'd like to be more like taryn thomas
00:31:17.520she is going to do more good than she can even possibly imagine. If she keeps her head on her
00:31:25.740shoulders, she's happy. She's bright. She's intelligent. She's honest and, and not unafraid.
00:31:34.980She's like every hero that I've ever read about. Heroes are afraid. They are, they're afraid.
00:31:41.000they just know something bigger is more important than their fear than their life their friends their
00:31:49.340job their death whatever they know this is more important um and that's who she is and you know
00:31:57.880i want to i i want to pick up where i left off last hour about this um freedom 250 concert that's
00:32:05.340going on you know the the great american state fair thing is going on at the national mall in
00:32:10.880washington this summer and freedom 250 announced uh the lineup for the great american state fair
00:32:18.160is here and it's bringing the hits martina mcbride young mc cnc music factory vanilla ice millie
00:32:23.960who knew they really that's holy cow i'll tell that story some other day uh the commodores
00:32:32.180morris day in the time florida brett michaels and many more okay so now here's here's what was
00:32:40.840trending uh last night and today and that is all these people are pulling out and they're saying
00:32:45.300we didn't know we did we had no idea we didn't know have any idea that this was so divisive
00:32:50.140brett michaels said um he was worried because of the death threats wait death threats coming from
00:32:57.240whom? From the people that were going to go to that or the people who don't want you to go to
00:33:03.900that? That's who you're afraid of. You're not afraid of the people who are for this. You're
00:33:08.720afraid of the people who are against this. That should tell you something. Here's what bothers me
00:33:13.860on all of this news about this concert. I looked at the criticism. I searched it out.
00:33:22.600Okay. I've watched all the performers pull out. I've watched the headlines scream that these events are somehow dangerous or divisive, but I have not found any specifics. What exactly are you objecting to? What did they ask you to do that was so partisan or divisive? I mean, if there is something truly objectionable, then tell us, tell us, show us the evidence. Let us judge for ourself.
00:33:50.560because as i said earlier you know this doesn't belong to donald trump and the republicans it
00:33:58.680doesn't belong to it doesn't belong to barack obama or joe biden or the democrat this is an
00:34:05.380american thing and if the entire argument the entire argument boils down to one of these things