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00:00:30.000 Today is full of a lot of really good information.

00:00:36.140 One of the things we took on today was, what's his name? 1.00

00:00:41.300 Paul Krugman, a moron. 1.00

00:00:44.060 Talking about a demagification of America, like the denazification of Germany. 1.00

00:00:50.100 Those are his words. 0.61

00:00:51.260 I take you through what that means because he said we should use that as a template.

00:00:54.740 Okay, let's take him at his own word.

00:00:57.000 What does he mean by that?

00:00:59.520 Also, there's stories going around about Candace Owens being in Russia with Alexander Dugan and Putin.

00:01:07.220 The story is not about her.

00:01:08.940 The story is about what's actually happening to podcasters here in America that are on our side and what the plan is from Russia's side.

00:01:17.600 Also, one law, one law.

00:01:20.420 Talk about Henry Nowak and what happened to him and the riots that happened, or the mobs, if you will, that pushed back against out-of-control police in Great Britain.

00:01:34.560 What is the solution there? All of this and so much more on today's podcast.

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00:02:58.180 i want to talk to you about what happened last night um i want to talk to you about what it

00:03:10.060 means because the headlines and the lesson are two very different animals six states voted

00:03:17.220 last night yesterday and here we are wednesday morning and this is what

00:03:22.680 let me bring jason and ricky in here um on further analysis of what happened last night

00:03:33.720 jason tell me what happened in new jersey you know with the buddy of the blind cheek

00:03:39.240 yeah so as expected um i'm pull i'm trying to pronounce his name adam hamawi

00:03:46.560 has advanced, and he is going to be the Democrat nominee.

00:03:49.860 Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

00:03:52.680 Doesn't that sound like it's a child talking?

00:03:56.200 Give me his name again.

00:03:58.880 No, now I don't want to say it.

00:04:01.360 It's Adam Mwawi.

00:04:03.560 It's Adam Mwami.

00:04:06.200 I want my mommy, Adam Mwami.

00:04:08.980 Okay, anyway, go ahead.

00:04:11.700 It's an interesting candidate when you think about the Red-Green Alliance,

00:04:15.760 because that area is very heavily progressive

00:04:19.480 and it's probably going to go in his direction.

00:04:23.200 Think about who the Democrats have just nominated here in New Jersey.

00:04:27.260 He served as a defense witness for the blind cheek

00:04:29.780 on the World Trade Center bombing case.

00:04:32.700 That right there, you'd be like, whoa, whoa, wait, what?

00:04:35.820 Well, it gets worse.

00:04:37.080 For anybody who doesn't know what the blind cheek is, 0.68

00:04:39.380 they tried to blow up the World Trade Center a time before they actually did it. 0.77

00:04:43.540 okay they they took explosives put it down by some of the footings of the world trade center

00:04:47.860 tried to try to collapse it just the way they did with the airplanes this is their first attempt

00:04:51.920 it was the blind chic an absolute radical madman that was living in new jersey this is the guy

00:04:59.100 went to went to trial was convicted okay this is the guy who's like no you don't understand 0.91

00:05:05.620 i'm adam a whammy and my mommy says that we really have to take care of the blind chic 0.95

00:05:11.500 I mean, for the love of Pete, this is the character witness for the blind cheek. 1.00

00:05:17.120 And they just elected him.

00:05:20.380 How's this guy going to get a security clearance?

00:05:23.820 Just on that.

00:05:24.860 Now, I don't know if he was a character witness, but he was definitely a defense witness for the blind cheek.

00:05:29.940 But just that right there, I would say the same thing you just said.

00:05:33.100 How is he going to get a security clearance?

00:05:34.780 But it goes on, Glenn.

00:05:35.960 He was also reportedly volunteered for a Chicago-based nonprofit in Bosnia, which was later discovered to be a front for al-Qaeda.

00:05:49.980 So, yeah, if he's elected, are they just going to put him in a closet somewhere?

00:05:55.820 Because I don't see any way in the world that he gets a security clearance.

00:06:01.560 Yeah. 0.99

00:06:03.140 Now, Tallarica, the closet's too full with Tallarica in it. 1.00

00:06:07.600 Well, speaking of closets, can we talk about how this very Islamic candidate is trotting out sweet old lesbians on June 1st for the beginning of Pride Month? 1.00

00:06:22.680 And how he's like all for gay pride and all this stuff. 0.98

00:06:25.700 Is he a good Muslim? A bad Muslim? What are this guy's politics, actually? 1.00

00:06:32.200 I feel like he would be, you know, if he were doing this over in the Middle East.

00:06:35.980 Would be, but he doesn't mean it. 0.88

00:06:37.560 He's Red-Green Alliance. 0.99

00:06:39.160 If he does mean it, they will once they would take over. 0.98

00:06:43.560 But that is the whole plan of the Red-Green Alliance. 1.00

00:06:45.980 We can kill homosexuals and lesbians and gays over in the Middle East, 1.00

00:06:53.200 but here we're going to cozy up and say, we're just like you. 1.00

00:06:56.020 Don't you hate this country?

00:06:57.620 Don't you hate Israel? 1.00

00:06:58.880 Yeah, we're with you. 0.60

00:07:00.000 i mean that's what this is it's crazy and by the way i've got a story hang on hang on just a second

00:07:07.860 i've got a story coming up in a minute that uh is something that ryan morrow put together at

00:07:13.180 glennbeck.com uh it starts with candace owens but candace owens is not the story here um and it

00:07:20.500 is something that you must read must listen to the analysis uh next hour and share with everyone

00:07:27.360 you know because we're in the big leagues now gang and you got to grow up you know got to put

00:07:33.780 on the big boy pants and you have to face the truth on what is really happening in our country

00:07:38.520 and i'll share that with you coming up in in just a minute speaking of the red green alliance um

00:07:44.440 anyway um good news ricky yeah here's some good news out of the california elections

00:07:50.140 before the primary the cook political report had rated the california governor race as

00:07:55.660 solidly Democratic. And you've got Hilton leading right now. Of course, it's too early to call 0.59

00:08:01.860 because, you know, we can't do elections in 2026 with a 24-hour time period. And even Nate Silver,

00:08:08.800 the renowned pollster, who's not exactly right-leaning and has historically been for

00:08:13.360 election integrity. And I'm sure if we went back into his tweet thread, we would see him bashing

00:08:18.900 Trump's 2020 election result challenges. Anyways, this is what he says. The fact that California

00:08:24.800 elections often can't be resolved for weeks is kind of insane and not common in any other

00:08:29.620 electoral systems around the world like honestly let me give you his follow up yeah go ahead but

00:08:35.200 let me give you his follow-up tweets he said like honestly it's going to take several weeks 0.96

00:08:39.300 to tell you who won the election this is failed state crap and should be much more stigmatized 0.96

00:08:46.900 the fact that it's tolerated is bad too a textbook example of learned helplessness i mean that's 0.97

00:08:54.480 nate freaking silver that's nate silver saying that that's good news and more good news can i

00:09:04.060 can i get some stats right now leading real quick jason on the la mayor results karen bass is

00:09:09.980 currently leading 34.8 to spencer pratt at 30 they're saying she's definitely headed to the

00:09:15.660 november you know runoff i think they can't say that spencer is even though it's you know the top

00:09:20.040 too um but this is what's interesting even though she won against jay caruso i know even though jake

00:09:25.980 she beat jay caruso in the last mayoral election who was you know the gop billionaire uh this is

00:09:32.220 what the new york times reports if mayor karen bass of los angeles does not win outright in 0.94

00:09:37.580 tuesday's election with a majority of the vote she would be the first incumbent mayor from the city

00:09:42.480 to advance to a runoff since 2005 and so yeah she is headed to a runoff so her popularity is 1.00

00:09:47.980 declining there's you know she lost some let me just sweetness let me just give you some of the

00:09:53.000 numbers here karen bass 34.8 spencer pratt 30 um and then the the socialist communist uh woman

00:10:02.520 she's at 22 that number could come up um but karen bass is not going to make it to 50 so it

00:10:09.260 should be karen and spencer pratt uh you know unless they just keep finding more ballots um

00:10:15.480 Anyway, and then you have Steve Hilton. Steve Hilton is at 27.8%. Becerra is at 25%. Tom Steyer, who has spent like half a billion dollars, is at 19%. So it looks like Steve and Becerra will be the two that are running off.

00:10:37.460 But again, they might find 25% just somewhere. Where did I put all of those ballots for Becerra? Oh, here they are, you know, in the trunk of a teachers union official. Anyway, go ahead, Jason.

00:10:51.280 Well, I don't know what all this hubbub over the election is.

00:10:55.820 I don't know what the cause is, what the concern is,

00:10:57.800 because let me just read you some stats.

00:10:59.240 So using a rapid count system, polls opened at 8 a.m.

00:11:03.620 They closed at 4 p.m.

00:11:05.360 By 9.45, 100% of the ballots were processed,

00:11:09.660 and they already knew who the winners were.

00:11:11.700 Oh, wait a minute.

00:11:13.480 I'm reading the stats for the entire country of Columbia that just happened.

00:11:18.200 The entire country of Columbia.

00:11:20.660 With it's mostly just jungle and everything, and they knew the results faster than California in one day.

00:11:28.180 Insane.

00:11:29.300 I don't know how you can go backward.

00:11:32.840 I mean, you know, in the 1960s, 70s, 80s, 90s, we knew these overnight.

00:11:38.720 All of a sudden, it's just become so darn complex.

00:11:42.540 We just can't get it done.

00:11:44.540 Enough of the mail-in ballots.

00:11:46.020 If it's not there by election day to be counted that day, it doesn't count.

00:11:52.360 Enough of this stuff. 0.99

00:11:53.600 It's garbage. 1.00

00:11:55.680 You know, it is only the republic. 1.00

00:11:57.520 Maybe you could get off your fat ass and go and vote. 1.00

00:12:00.980 What do you say? 1.00

00:12:01.700 Go in?

00:12:02.340 Can you do that for freedom?

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00:13:28.380 i'm talking to you about one of the most important stories that we have ever run

00:13:38.800 at glennbeck.com and in the headline is candace owens going over to russia

00:13:44.480 candace owens is not the story here she is just um a casualty of this and you are going to if you

00:13:51.760 do your homework on this and i urge you to do it please please do a thorough search on this

00:14:03.060 because you're going to hear parts of this philosophy and you're going to be like i agree

00:14:08.020 please continue to do the rest of the homework because you will not agree with the solution

00:14:15.940 And I'm talking about Dugan and what is happening this week in Russia, and Candace Owens is part of it, okay? 0.83

00:14:22.940 Now, this is an operation to get you and your faith and your country to split up, and it is a genius, genius operation. 0.88

00:14:31.780 And the payload doesn't arrive in an enemy uniform. 0.87

00:14:36.480 It arrives waving our flag.

00:14:38.640 It quotes our scripture.

00:14:40.920 It hates the same thing you hate and are passionate about.

00:14:45.760 Dugan said it himself.

00:14:47.240 The delivery vehicle is the American right.

00:14:50.820 You are the target. 0.99

00:14:52.600 And not because you're foolish, but because you're faithful. 1.00

00:14:56.040 Because you carry real wounds. 1.00

00:14:57.780 You worry about our families, our churches, our country's soul.

00:15:01.460 The evil that has become our culture.

00:15:05.180 And a real wound is the easiest place on earth to slip in poison and call it medicine.

00:15:11.900 So I'm not going to stand here and point at those people over there who got fooled,

00:15:17.880 because that would be the single most propagandized thing I could do.

00:15:24.260 I'm going to tell you the truth.

00:15:26.140 The people running this game are praying that I don't figure out,

00:15:32.220 or perhaps I'm not willing to admit,

00:15:35.480 this system was built to fool people first like me.

00:15:40.900 People like me in my job, it's meant to fool them because it's meant to move through trusted voices, popular podcasters, friends, sincere believers, people who believe this are sincere in their faith in Christ.

00:15:57.540 they are sincere in their love of country but they will hear the message that dugan is giving

00:16:04.280 and saying and they'll say because he is right on his analysis on what is happening to the west it

00:16:12.460 is evil it's his solution that you must run from now there are going to be people that are fooled

00:16:24.240 Surely they have no idea in the current that they're swimming in

00:16:27.760 because they haven't done their homework.

00:16:31.040 Or maybe they just, I don't want to judge.

00:16:35.060 And then there are those who will knowingly be a part of this

00:16:38.760 because they believe Dugan's solution is right.

00:16:41.360 Destroy the American church, destroy the American culture, 0.96

00:16:46.740 and destroy the American government. 1.00

00:16:48.980 And throw in line with the Islamists. 0.99

00:16:53.240 Because they want a purified world too. 0.93

00:16:57.600 The line between being wrong and being used is real.

00:17:04.820 And it's not for me to read anyone's heart, but I can read the pattern.

00:17:09.660 This is meant to fool me, so then I knowingly or unknowingly fool you.

00:17:15.940 And the tell is never the complaint.

00:17:19.180 share every grievance about this culture

00:17:24.120 and I'll share most of them with you

00:17:28.500 the tell is the conclusion

00:17:32.980 when the answer to every single problem

00:17:36.840 seems to be the same

00:17:38.360 blame your own country

00:17:39.900 distrust your own people

00:17:41.720 distrust people who think a lot like you

00:17:45.220 but don't agree

00:17:46.480 call them an enemy

00:17:47.860 admire a strong man here or across the sea stop stop that is not where faith leads that's where

00:17:58.100 the operation leads but surely glenn i mean he's saying a lot of right things and i don't have to

00:18:06.180 go with all of it and i'd notice something that's crazy would you would you would you notice two

00:18:13.900 years ago claiming that winston churchill not hitler was the real villain of the second world

00:18:20.720 war everyone everyone two years ago would have said you're insane then the right podcaster

00:18:27.760 had the right person say it and enough people would and say it with enough confidence

00:18:33.080 that now it's just an interesting take floating in the discourse that hitler wasn't the bad guy

00:18:40.160 church hill was and that is the whole machine in one example a fringe idea doesn't kick down the

00:18:48.020 door it gets invited in by someone you trust it takes off its coat and by the time you notice

00:18:54.080 it's still standing in the living room it's been there for years and it's accepted

00:18:58.880 and by the time most people notice the trusted voices will have already embraced it

00:19:10.160 There's one way out.

00:19:28.760 A faith that needs a strong man, 1.00

00:19:31.800 a Christian prince, 0.76

00:19:33.420 a czar, 0.65

00:19:34.660 was never your faith to begin with.

00:19:40.160 that's a counterfeit. The real thing that was promised was that the gates of hell would not

00:19:48.240 prevail against it. Nowhere in our scriptures does it say, well, the gates of hell might prevail

00:19:54.880 unless a strong man shows up. Your faith does not need any rescuing by a man in the Kremlin or the

00:20:03.160 White House. You do not have to choose between loving God and loving your country because in

00:20:09.680 america in america our rights are known to come from god if you believe in any of the miracle

00:20:16.840 forget about what we've turned into we are here to make a more perfect nation which means every

00:20:23.100 generation must strive to fix the problems because the stock is good the rights are good

00:20:35.320 The Constitution is good.

00:20:38.580 And anyone who is asking you that if you love one or the other,

00:20:45.420 you have to set one against the other,

00:20:48.280 only someone who wants to destroy both of those is asking that.

00:20:54.900 Catching that one hidden itinerary, that's a win, and I'll take it.

00:21:01.000 But it is not the war.

00:21:02.120 you don't win by hunting messengers that's why i haven't made this about the messengers

00:21:08.880 you only win it by killing the message not the grievance the message by becoming the kind of

00:21:18.920 person that can hold hard truth in one hand our culture has become evil and a hostile lie in the

00:21:27.840 other. That's why we should destroy America. That's why we should destroy our churches. 0.98

00:21:34.120 That's why we should partner with Islamists. That's why we should partner with this crazy 1.00

00:21:43.500 madman in Russia. Those are two things. Why must I combine them? Culture is evil, 1.00

00:21:55.980 and this is not the answer.

00:22:02.900 You have to be able to hold two truths.

00:22:07.380 You have to be able to separate the goats and the sheep.

00:22:12.420 You have to be humble enough to ask

00:22:14.740 of every idea

00:22:21.820 that makes you angry at your own neighbor.

00:22:25.980 who, possibly 3, 8, 10,000 miles from here,

00:22:33.300 is glad I believe this and hate my neighbor?

00:22:46.780 Ask that question.

00:22:49.000 Ask it out loud.

00:22:50.680 Ask it of your children.

00:22:52.920 Ask it of yourselves.

00:22:54.540 Ask it often.

00:22:55.400 who benefits

00:22:57.320 because the day you stop asking that

00:23:01.980 is the day the false choice

00:23:05.420 stops being a question

00:23:06.980 and becomes the answer

00:23:09.340 please

00:23:15.020 read this article at glennbeck.com

00:23:18.040 it is thorough

00:23:25.620 It is hard.

00:23:31.440 One of the themes of this program has been lately,

00:23:37.120 in the last three months maybe,

00:23:40.500 is can we have adult conversations, please?

00:23:46.300 I'll have conversations on this program that might piss you off,

00:23:50.800 might make you mad, might challenge your thinking.

00:23:53.680 Good.

00:23:55.400 Good, and you should challenge mine

00:23:58.540 because that's the only way we'll get things right.

00:24:02.400 I don't have all the answers.

00:24:03.740 I don't know, but I am not going to tell you

00:24:06.240 the things you want to hear if they're not true.

00:24:12.460 There are no easy answers out of any of this.

00:24:19.100 I just showed you an easy answer from Paul Krugman last hour

00:24:23.400 Where he's talking literally about, I wrote it down so I make sure I quote him, thorough purges and the demagification, like denazification of the United States to make sure these people are punished and are not playing any role in our society.

00:24:46.540 And he said, we use as the template the denazification of Germany. 0.70

00:24:52.460 I showed you what that meant in Germany.

00:24:56.740 That is the most evil thing you can imagine. 1.00

00:24:59.720 That's what the other side is doing.

00:25:02.720 And it will feel good because they'll say, my grievance is real.

00:25:08.100 What he's saying is real.

00:25:11.980 It doesn't matter if your grievance is real.

00:25:16.540 Have we completely forgotten Jesus, Gandhi, and Martin Luther King?

00:25:21.760 You don't think Martin Luther King, his grievance was real?

00:25:25.120 Then why not pick up a gun? 0.99

00:25:27.060 Why not start shooting people? 0.99

00:25:28.740 Because that's not the solution. 0.84

00:25:35.040 The day after 9-11,

00:25:37.680 I had already signed a contract with the Premier Radio Networks.

00:25:43.520 two days, I think it was after 9-11.

00:25:48.840 Dr. Laura didn't want to talk about

00:25:50.480 what was happening in the country in 9-11.

00:25:53.340 And I was scheduled to take her time slot

00:25:56.140 in January of that year.

00:25:58.520 And it was September 13th,

00:26:00.220 and they called and said,

00:26:01.480 Glenn, we need you on the air on Friday.

00:26:06.360 I'm a recovering alcoholic DJ

00:26:08.040 with no formal education.

00:26:13.520 I spent that whole day on my knees.

00:26:20.080 Lord, you have the wrong...

00:26:21.800 You have the wrong guy.

00:26:31.940 I feel like that today.

00:26:36.120 I don't know how to do this job.

00:26:38.360 There haven't been that many times in the world's history

00:26:42.360 where people have faced what we are about to face.

00:26:53.500 And I can't find any broadcaster

00:26:56.220 that did this.

00:27:07.400 I can only tell you

00:27:08.880 that Jesus Christ led a revolution. 0.58

00:27:15.280 And it was about the one, not the collective.

00:27:20.120 It was about you.

00:27:22.220 It was about forgiveness and love and not striking out.

00:27:26.200 It was about prayer and being guided by the Spirit.

00:27:30.380 I know Gandhi used that message and method

00:27:35.520 and changed the world.

00:27:37.240 I know Martin Luther King, as flawed as that guy was.

00:27:42.380 You want to talk about not a good messenger?

00:27:44.320 He was not a good messenger, but his message was solid.

00:27:53.400 Look to those people.

00:27:56.920 Look to Jesus, Gandhi, and Martin Luther King

00:28:00.180 and study how they changed the culture

00:28:03.960 and changed the hearts of people.

00:28:07.240 so we can go back to being united

00:28:13.540 and working together to form a more perfect union.

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00:29:13.520 a finance student a few months into his first year

00:29:19.380 his friends and teammates say he was the kind of guy who walk in a room and lit up a room

00:29:25.520 when henry walked in they cheered like someone had scored a soccer goal that's what they say

00:29:32.960 On the 3rd of December, on a street in Southampton, England, Henry was stabbed five times.

00:29:41.960 I'm going to play the video.

00:29:43.980 This was not released until recently.

00:29:47.540 No, no, no, not that video, please.

00:29:49.340 The video of him being handcuffed on the streets.

00:29:54.320 He's handcuffed.

00:29:55.300 Police officers show up.

00:29:57.180 He is being handcuffed.

00:29:59.220 He's saying, I can't breathe.

00:30:00.360 I can't breathe.

00:30:01.000 he tells the officers i've been stabbed i can't breathe i can't breathe officer looks down

00:30:09.640 at this boy and saying you know i don't think you've been stabbed mate and they put him in

00:30:18.600 handcuffs

00:30:19.200 you're hearing the the guy who stabbed him say you know he knocked my turban off and they treated

00:30:30.420 this bleeding kid like a criminal because the man who had knifed him said the magic word,

00:30:36.760 and that's racism. He said Henry attacked him and abused him. It was a lie. The prosecutors 0.83

00:30:43.540 said it was a lie. The court said it was a lie. I mean, you should hear what the judge said in

00:30:49.060 the courtroom. I mean, it was very clear. I can't believe a word you say because everything you've

00:30:54.260 said is a lie. But at the time, the word of this murderer was weighed heavier than the last breaths

00:31:00.780 of a boy dying on the pavement. Now, I want you to hear me clearly because clarity is the only

00:31:08.360 thing that will honor the dead. The evil here is not people. The evil here is not a faith.

00:31:17.600 The evil here is older and simpler than that.

00:31:19.900 The evil is a justice that decides before a single word is spoken whose life counts and whose word counts.

00:31:30.760 A justice that asks, not what happened, but who am I allowed to believe?

00:31:37.320 This is the exact evil that Martin Luther King marched against.

00:31:42.780 that was the whole machinery of the 1950s a system that had already made up its mind about

00:31:50.980 who you believe before you ever open your mouth you just look at a human being and you're like

00:31:55.580 oh he's white he's black i believe the white guy in this case you look at two human beings 0.61

00:31:59.800 he's black he's white he's he's a minority he's white i believe the minority i believe 0.58

00:32:05.980 the black guy i believe the brown guy i believe anybody but the white guy

00:32:08.800 and this is by design i mean we told ourselves that you know we were a different country

00:32:17.700 and this is a different century but the footage here says otherwise

00:32:22.620 and this is what tommy robinson has been saying this was my message that apparently i could be

00:32:32.220 banned for i don't know if i am banned from i hope not but i i was told i'd be banned if i spoke at

00:32:37.620 the rally for Tommy Robinson, and I wasn't speaking for Tommy Robinson. I was speaking

00:32:42.020 and standing up for one law, one standard. That's what I was standing up. A life is a life. I don't

00:32:48.420 care what color. A life is a life. Equal justice. It's not a slogan. It's not a side. It's the floor

00:32:56.940 underneath everything we claim to believe. And when that floor cracks, everyone falls through it.

00:33:03.360 eventually, all of us. And I know the rage. I felt it last night. Outside that police station,

00:33:20.220 the rage boiled over into the streets. Officers were hurt. People were arrested.

00:33:26.500 And God help me, I understand it. I don't excuse it, but I understand it.

00:33:31.040 and the only reason why i understand it is because this is what happens when there's no real

00:33:37.980 leadership you know once a brick is thrown no brick thrown has ever made a powerful institution

00:33:46.180 look in the mirror okay rage feels like justice but it's not justice and it's not going to change

00:33:51.460 the hearts of anybody it's the thing that lets the powerful change the subject from a dead boy

00:33:56.800 in handcuffs to a broken shop window, to a police officer that was hurt by a bottle being thrown.

00:34:02.220 Don't hand them that gift. Don't. There is another way. It's the way that always works. And it's not

00:34:10.140 weakness. It is the most disciplined strength a human being can wield. Jesus refused the sword

00:34:17.740 in the garden no he healed his enemy

00:34:23.300 gandhi who emptied a prison by by filling it king who marched into the fists and the dogs

00:34:34.000 and the fire hoses and would not swing back and in not swinging back he made the whole world

00:34:41.160 finally see who the real animal was here they marched of course they marched but they marched

00:34:48.120 unarmed they marched unflinching that discipline is what made the injustice impossible to look

00:34:56.880 away from because people all over the world looked and said wait a minute there are dogs

00:35:02.040 fire hoses they're swinging at them they're beating with clubs and no one is fighting back

00:35:07.360 It was clear who the good guy was and who the bad guy was.

00:35:12.000 Because here's what happens.

00:35:13.440 People watch something and they're like, I don't really know the situation.

00:35:16.800 I don't really know who that person is.

00:35:18.560 I don't know whose side I should be on.

00:35:20.780 That's why he was like, never strike back.

00:35:23.940 Never, ever, ever strike back.

00:35:30.840 A mob makes injustice forgettable.

00:35:33.720 The disciplined, peaceful, immovable witness makes it unbearable.

00:35:46.560 And you know who said the most truest, most Christ-like thing in this entire affair?

00:35:51.260 It's not a politician.

00:35:53.980 It was Henry's father.

00:35:56.960 Can we play Henry's father, please?

00:35:59.760 Henry told officers that he could not breathe nine times.

00:36:05.360 He told them he had been stabbed four times.

00:36:09.620 The response from one officer was, I don't think you have, mate.

00:36:15.260 The police have said they were misled by the murderer

00:36:18.320 and that the scene when they arrived was complex.

00:36:22.600 Unfortunately, it seems to us the truth is much simpler.

00:36:26.520 the police were told by our son himself and by a member of the public who called 999

00:36:34.140 that they heard someone shout that they had been stabbed but the police did not believe them

00:36:42.020 henry was pulled across the gravel his hands forced behind his back and he was placed in

00:36:48.640 handcuffs his murderer however was afforded decency he was believed he was not handcuffed

00:36:55.900 when arrested. He was not handcuffed when transported to the police station. As far

00:37:01.720 as we understand, he was never handcuffed at all. And, as Vikram Digwar himself told

00:37:09.060 the court, whilst under arrest for Henry's murder, police even took him to the kitchen

00:37:14.280 so he could choose his food. The contrast is unbearable.

00:37:25.900 What is the difference between this

00:37:30.260 and what we heard coming out of the South in the 1950s?

00:37:36.600 If you were white, you were treated with kid gloves. 0.98

00:37:42.200 If you were black, you were in jail. 0.97

00:37:44.100 It didn't matter, really. 0.98

00:37:45.880 You'd already been judged.

00:37:47.640 Before you even got to trial, you'd already been judged.

00:37:52.580 See, this is the plan.

00:37:55.900 this is what is it not anti-racism yeah anti-racist you have to be an anti-racist right

00:38:03.460 isn't that what they called it ricky anti-racism when when you had to become a racist to defeat

00:38:08.920 racism right you got it became the trend in 2020 right okay so this is their plan

00:38:15.900 you you are becoming the 1950s except the white man is the black man that's not what

00:38:24.400 anyone wanted except people who want revenge, people who want destruction, who want tension. 0.96

00:38:32.840 I don't want any of that. I want people to be treated equally. I want the police to not judge

00:38:41.980 at the scene. Just calm it down. Get everybody under control. You don't know, then you don't

00:38:49.220 know. Don't judge by what a person looks like. They want us to be a racist nation, just in

00:39:03.020 reverse. I don't. I don't want anyone in that situation. And here, Henry's own father, standing

00:39:09.880 inside the worst grief a man can carry, he asks that his son's death not be used to create division

00:39:15.740 or hatred or tension.

00:39:20.220 They were chanting last night.

00:39:22.840 They marched in the streets.

00:39:24.920 Play some of this.

00:39:26.260 They marched in the streets chanting.

00:39:28.600 And then they started throwing trash bins.

00:39:35.500 And they say it's because the police showed up

00:39:38.760 with their riot shields and started antagonizing

00:39:41.320 and pushing back.

00:39:42.760 Okay, well, this looks peaceful.

00:39:44.680 But if they do come with their riot shields, listen to Martin Luther King.

00:39:49.580 You don't push back. You take it.

00:39:51.840 You don't throw rocks at them.

00:39:56.300 Look, this only works when there are open hearts.

00:40:07.380 You have to follow Christ. You follow Gandhi. You follow King.

00:40:10.980 You follow the grieving father.

00:40:12.260 this is the only method that works every time but it only works when there is still a conscience

00:40:21.420 on the other side to reach when when that judeo-christian ethic of i want to do right

00:40:30.000 is still there that open heart and that is a ever-enclosing window non-violence is a wager

00:40:40.220 it's a bet that the people in power still have a heart to be moved the people who not the

00:40:46.960 politicians these people on the street that have the power that they still have a heart in there

00:40:52.480 and that window is the only window you can get through it's the only thing that changes that

00:40:58.260 and that window is closing because trust in this country is bleeding out as surely as henry did on

00:41:03.860 that street. That's why you should be concerned about the death of churches. But here's some

00:41:14.260 hope for you in Great Britain. It's quiet and it is young and it's happening in our

00:41:18.140 streets too. All across Britain, all across America, a generation everyone wrote off as 1.00

00:41:24.040 done is walking back into churches. There is talk of a quiet revival, young people reaching again

00:41:35.120 for something bigger than the next outrage. They want to belong to something good.

00:41:44.880 Don't confuse marches that turn into mobs as good. It requires discipline. I talked to Tommy

00:41:53.280 about this when i was there you don't have a martin luther king they don't have one they

00:41:59.020 gandhi was in a way against the british so when i said you know you got gandhi and everybody

00:42:06.220 looked at me like are you out of your mind and i'm like no you gotta look at gandhi for what he

00:42:10.120 was doing this is this kind of soil that courage grows in don't waste it on hatred plant something

00:42:20.260 in it what do we owe henry not a riot a reckoning we owe him relentless peaceful undeniable pressure

00:42:27.760 for the truth every answer the investigation could give and not one less we owe him one law

00:42:34.820 applied to the same soul every soul who walks either on those islands or here you owe him our

00:42:41.640 refusal to hate people we are tempted to hate and our refusal be just to be silent and sit down and

00:42:49.800 say, this isn't my fight. It is your fight. They put a dying boy in handcuffs because someone told

00:42:55.020 him a lie about who to believe. So let her answer be consistent and the truth. And so calmly and

00:43:01.180 clearly stated that no one can pretend they didn't hear it. His name was Henry. Say it.

00:43:10.460 And believe him, not skin color.

00:43:19.800 Thank you.

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