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00:01:21.740 You know Chuck Todd thank goodness finally somebody said it came out and said all this critical race

00:01:38.620 theory all this you know hey they're changing everything about America. This is all a Trump plan.

00:01:47.020 This isn't actually happening. This is just ginning up white people. Let him say it. Here it is. 0.82

00:01:53.920 Specific to this idea of critical race theory I have to tell you I just spent some time reporting on

00:01:57.080 this county in Virginia about an hour outside of Washington and to your point this is something

00:02:01.760 that is mobilizing people and resonating very deeply. It was about a hundred degree day. Dozens and

00:02:07.420 dozens and dozens of parents mostly white in this largely affluent county showed up to a school board

00:02:13.200 meeting. For many of them the very first school board meeting they'd ever attended specifically

00:02:16.880 because of this one issue. That's important to note that you mentioned critical race theory a couple

00:02:22.280 times. This is a parent-led backlash at the grassroots level. It's manufactured and then sort of

00:02:29.880 elected officials have been lit. The fire was lit. I disagree. I think it started because parents have

00:02:34.960 had it with the education bureaucracy after COVID. They're fed up with it. They tend to trust Democrats

00:02:39.560 when it comes to education funding but they trust Republicans on education accountability. I think

00:02:43.820 that what the backlash you're seeing on critical race theory in schools is another example of

00:02:47.720 parents trying to hold educators accountable. It's coordinated. It's aggressive. It's intentional.

00:02:52.960 Right? This is part of the tribalism play. The critical race theory is yet another tool in the racial

00:03:00.340 tribal boogeyman's toolbox to drive and inflame tribalism which Republicans think helps them in 0.97

00:03:07.320 elections. This is Trump 2.0. This is a continuation of this, right? Critical race theory is an arcane

00:03:15.280 sort of ideal. Why is it front center right now? The same reason that Mitch McConnell attacked Stacey

00:03:20.180 Abrams when she came out for the voting bill. It is racial. It is tribalism. We've seen it grow under

00:03:28.000 Trump and this is part and partial of it and they think this helps ignite their base. There's no way this

00:03:33.620 is not grassroots. Brad, you know this is organized and it's being paid for.

00:03:38.940 Oh.

00:03:40.380 At some point, do they develop a new argument? Is there a point at any time, do they come up with

00:03:46.400 an argument they weren't making 50 years ago? At any point, do they develop one new point,

00:03:53.780 one new argument, one new thought?

00:03:55.580 What do you mean? How do you mean? This is a totally new argument. Critical race theory is an

00:04:01.860 arcane idea. It's not really, it's not, doesn't exist. All these white people are being ginned up by 0.96

00:04:10.640 the GOP. It's so ridiculous. 1.00

00:04:13.220 It's all about politics. This isn't about anything real. 0.98

00:04:15.720 It's not really. It's interesting because you look at all of the materials that have been unearthed

00:04:21.360 by people like Chris Rufo. And I mean, going back to, you know, James Lindsay, you talked to a couple

00:04:27.240 years ago, covering a lot of this stuff. This has been flowing through academics first and has now

00:04:32.480 gone to all, all elements of society. I mean, people are going to work at, you know, fast food

00:04:39.800 restaurants and learning about critical race theory. And we know that only because brave people

00:04:45.420 have decided to, uh, to, uh, unearth this and send, no, no, not at all. And what's interesting

00:04:54.600 too, is that without COVID likely we wouldn't know half of the stuff that we know now. The re one of

00:05:03.860 the reasons why this happened is because people were at home taking these seminars instead of at work

00:05:09.940 where they couldn't comfortably film, uh, or record all of the materials and send them to reporters,

00:05:15.640 uh, who were cared about this stuff. Instead, they were home and they were on zoom calls and they were

00:05:21.840 able to get a lot of this material and send it to people who were able to bring it to America's

00:05:27.720 attention. And when you see this stuff going into schools, we've seen it in Texas, Glenn, major

00:05:33.240 controversies in Texas where, uh, you know, families are pointing out this incredible, what I would call

00:05:40.280 nothing but racism, uh, against, uh, different groups than, than had previously been, uh, the

00:05:46.160 victims of it. But the bottom line is it's still racism. It's still judging people by the color of

00:05:51.780 their skin. And that sort of stuff is, is supposed to be what we're avoiding. This is being taught to 1.00

00:05:57.280 teenagers, to kids in schools all over the country. And if we don't stand up and do something about it,

00:06:02.860 it will become the norm. And yes, it is. It is absolutely parent and student led. It is.

00:06:11.120 They need the, the, the, we have hit, uh, critical race theory. Critical is the key word. Whenever

00:06:18.920 anything is critical, it's usually, uh, a Marxist study. Um, but in this case, it is, uh, critical

00:06:28.100 medical attention needs to be paid right now. This is so important to the left. If this fails,

00:06:37.300 if we succeed in getting this squashed and exposed, because unless you expose it, unless people know

00:06:45.980 what it is and they're saying, well, it was just an arcane theory. It's an arcane theory. Really?

00:06:51.560 It's being taught at Harvard. It's being, it started at Harvard and it is a, an arcane legal, uh, uh,

00:07:02.620 idea, but it's, it's not just legal. It there, the, the, uh, the people who actually came up with

00:07:11.660 critical race theory, talk about it as a movement, a political movement. So it may have started out,

00:07:21.540 at Harvard law school, but that's not what it is today. According to the founders of critical race

00:07:28.480 theory, the people who designed it, they know this is a way to destroy everything that is America

00:07:37.600 destroy it. They know it. And it's very interesting to me that our president, uh, Barack Obama is out

00:07:47.680 on the stump again, trying to, uh, Oh, I'm sorry. I've just told Joe Biden is our president. No,

00:07:55.140 that's not true. Barack Obama is still our president. Uh, Barack Obama is the one in his

00:08:00.040 team. I mean, he said 80% of his team is the one, uh, are, are there at the white house. And Joe Biden

00:08:07.500 is just finishing the job he started. So that's why he's out on the trail. And that's why he's trying

00:08:13.040 to say to you, Oh, this critical race theory, there's nothing to it. You, you can't lie to us

00:08:19.240 about this one. This isn't healthcare. You know, you know, you're, Oh my gosh, you're going to save

00:08:24.680 so much money. The average family is going to save so much money. Uh, that didn't happen. Did it

00:08:32.600 didn't happen. Did it? You're going to be able to keep your doctor. If you love your doctor didn't

00:08:39.600 happen. Did it? Well, we had to project in the future and it came down to who do you trust? And

00:08:46.560 Barack Obama is so likable. He's so great. This one, we have evidence. Our children are experiencing

00:08:54.740 it right now. You hear anyone say that this isn't a big deal. They are either completely out of touch

00:09:04.580 or they are lying to you. The press is circling the wagons around critical race theory because they

00:09:13.720 know it is critical for their plan to go through. If they can't finish the indoctrination of the next

00:09:21.940 generation, America survives. If they continue the indoctrination, America is over. It is just

00:09:31.160 that simple as days go by and events unfold around the world. I fear what we have talked about has

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00:10:33.360 There was a lot of talk last week and we need to pay attention to it and I don't have an answer

00:10:48.220 for you, but I do have questions for you. First of all, how is it that the group that used to hate

00:10:56.260 the FBI and quite honestly still does hate the FBI because they were the ones that were inflicting

00:11:05.500 this racism on all of us? They were making sure that these racist laws were keeping the man down.

00:11:13.980 Well, now it seems Democrats, 78% of them love the FBI. 55% of Republicans don't. Now, why is that?

00:11:28.700 Because we used to love the FBI. We don't trust them anymore. We don't trust the FBI because too many

00:11:37.200 things are going on. And just when the trust of the FBI is being lost, Democrats who hate supposedly

00:11:45.660 oppression, big government, law enforcement, they love the FBI. The IRS, only 50% have a positive view

00:11:55.820 of the IRS. 50% of Republicans. Damn near 70% of Democrats. 68%.

00:12:03.480 Can I just ask you a non-political, who has a positive, who's like, you know what I really like?

00:12:11.140 You know who I really like? Oh, those IRS agents, they are so great. I just, they are, I can't wait.

00:12:17.340 I've had several of them over for dinner, you know, after, after, you know, my anal probe that they did. 0.97

00:12:24.540 I thought, you know, you guys are so great. Why don't you come on over for dinner? Who has that? 0.94

00:12:28.700 The EPA, 66% of Democrats love the EPA, 52% of Republicans. The CIA, 62% of Republicans, 69% of the

00:12:42.840 Democrats. All of these things are going up with Democrats. I thought you didn't like the big state.

00:12:49.500 I thought, I thought, I thought it, I thought it was coming from the Marxist side that the CIA

00:12:56.080 created AIDS. I mean, it certainly came from Russia. 0.99

00:13:03.560 So why is it that everybody on the left is loving them so much? Because they have fallen into the

00:13:11.420 clutches of the left. And no matter what anybody says, the left, the left loves the big state.

00:13:18.360 Communism, socialism, Marxism, they love state. So now when someone comes out and says, hey,

00:13:31.020 hang on just a second. Was the FBI involved at all in January 6th? The media immediately goes into

00:13:41.200 full spin mode, protecting the FBI and talking to people like John Brennan, who is so very credible

00:13:49.680 about, is there a possibility that the FBI was involved?

00:13:57.860 Well, let's take it from, well, let me take it from Glenn Greenwald, because there's a couple of

00:14:05.020 things that Glenn Greenwald pointed out on this, this report that came out from the Revolver News.

00:14:12.480 The original report says Glenn Greenwald published by Revolver News and then amplified by Fox News's

00:14:18.760 Tucker Carlson documented ample evidence of FBI infiltration of the three key groups at the center

00:14:26.280 of the January 6th investigation. The Oath Keepers, the Proud Boys, and the three presenters.

00:14:35.640 Noted how many alleged riot leaders from these groups have not yet been indicted, while low-level

00:14:44.120 protesters have been aggressively charged with major felonies and held without bail. Many of the alleged

00:14:51.140 plot leaders have thus far been shielded from charges. So the first question is, why? If those

00:14:58.580 three, the Oath Keepers, the Proud Boys, and the three percenters, why weren't the leaders of those

00:15:05.760 groups charged? Why were just the low-hanging fruit? Why were they the only ones that got indicted if it

00:15:13.080 was something that was coming from these organizations officially? Glenn Greenwald says,

00:15:20.020 the implications of these facts are obvious. It seems extremely likely that the FBI had numerous

00:15:26.400 ways to know of any organized plots regarding the January 6th riot, just as the U.S. intelligence

00:15:34.360 community, by its own admission, had ample advanced clues to the 9-11 attack, but according to their

00:15:41.540 excuse, tragically failed to connect the dots. There is no doubt that the FBI has infiltrated at least

00:15:49.080 some, if not all of these groups, which it has been warning about for years that they pose a grave

00:15:57.000 national security threat with informants and or undercover FBI agents. It is known that the

00:16:04.940 Proud Boy leaders, Enrique Taro, has served as an FBI informant in the past, and the disrupted

00:16:13.500 2020 plot by the three percenters, the members that tried to kidnap Governor Gretchen Whitmer, was shaped 0.68

00:16:21.880 and driven by what the Wall Street Journal reported were FBI undercover agents and confidential informants.

00:16:30.880 What would be shocking and strange is not if the FBI had embedded informants and other infiltrators

00:16:39.160 into the groups planning the January 6th Capitol riot, what would be shocking and strange, bizarre

00:16:45.460 and inexplicable, is if the FBI did not have those groups under tight control. And yet the suggestion

00:16:53.680 that the FBI informants may have played some role in the planning of the January 6th riot was instantly

00:17:01.280 depicted as something akin to the 9-11 truthers, the COVID lab leak theory, which turns out to be true, 0.56

00:17:08.880 the CIA's role in the assassination of JFK. This reaction is partly confounding given how often

00:17:16.300 the FBI did exactly this during the first war on terror and how commonplace discussions of this

00:17:23.360 tactic were in the mainstream liberal circles. Over the last decade, I reported, according to Glenn

00:17:31.760 Greenwald, on countless cases for the Guardian and the Intercept, where the FBI targeted some young

00:17:39.540 American Muslims they viewed as easily manipulated due to financial distress, emotional problems,

00:17:46.340 or both, and then deployed informants and undercover agents to dupe them into agreeing to join terrorist

00:17:54.300 plots that had been created, designed, and funded by the FBI itself, only then to congratulate

00:18:02.420 themselves for breaking up the plot which they themselves initiated. As asked in one headline about

00:18:09.420 this particularly egregious entrapment case, why does the FBI have to manufacture its own plots if

00:18:16.940 terrorism and ISIS are such grave threats? Mother Jones even published, he says, an outstanding lengthy

00:18:24.600 investigation by a reporter entitled The Informations, which asked, the FBI has built a national or a

00:18:34.080 massive network of spies to prevent another domestic attack, but they are busting terrorist plots,

00:18:40.740 or are they leading them? He goes on to show story after short story where the FBI was getting into

00:18:50.900 groups or creating groups and then targeting the most vulnerable, the lowest on the ladder, and then

00:18:59.200 involving them in some sort of a plot and then arresting. If this is true, and this is a pattern, which he says

00:19:07.720 it is, then the FBI, why wouldn't they be doing that in the January 6th attack on the Capitol? And there are

00:19:18.340 several things that say that something is wrong here. For instance, there are thousands of hours of videotape, of

00:19:29.640 surveillance. Why have the surveillance tapes not been released? Now, you could say it's because it shows

00:19:37.680 some good things, but they would point out that it might show that the FBI or the local police were

00:19:44.900 actually letting some of these people in. Also, we know that Parler alerted the FBI days before, saying that

00:19:58.520 there is something going on for January 6th. Why didn't the FBI move on that?

00:20:04.980 Now, they're talking about how the unindicted co-conspirators, and this is the argument that is going back and

00:20:12.300 forth with the media, that the unindicted co-conspirators are FBI agents, or maybe they're not FBI agents. We don't know,

00:20:22.460 yada, yada, yada, yada, yada. And they're saying this is destroying the point of Tucker Carlson and the revolver and

00:20:31.380 Glenn Greenwald. But he says, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. It doesn't refer to FBI informants or operatives

00:20:39.600 as unindicted co-conspirators. It doesn't usually refer to FBI informants like that. However, numerous references

00:20:50.280 to Person 1 or Person 2 could very well, indeed the case of the FBI-directed plot to kidnap Governor

00:20:58.380 Whitmer, could list them this way. In the Whitmer case, it was CHS 1, CHS 2, confidential human source.

00:21:08.940 That's how the FBI informants drove the plot to kidnap Governor Whitmer. That's how they were referenced.

00:21:18.220 These are common tactics, says Glenn Greenwald, that they use to reference the acts of their own

00:21:30.280 informants without revealing their identity. Now, he says, even if all of that doesn't play a role,

00:21:40.820 he says there's a bigger question that has to be answered. And nobody seems to be asking this.

00:21:53.060 How is it remotely credible the FBI did not have informants in these three groups that they've

00:21:58.040 been identifying as major threats for years, especially given the reporting that the leader

00:22:03.420 of the Proud Boys, conveniently arrested the day before January 6th, was an FBI informant in the

00:22:09.600 past, along with a confirmed reporting that the FBI had multiple informants in the Michigan Three

00:22:15.180 Percenters case? So if this is so crazy and the FBI was taken by surprise, why have they been saying

00:22:23.340 this is so dangerous, but they don't have any informants inside? Why are the low-level protesters

00:22:30.860 being charged with major crimes while the alleged organizers of this riot and the leaders of

00:22:36.800 these groups have not been charged? Why are the enormous amounts of video surveillance footage

00:22:42.580 from January 6th still being held? What happened to the alleged planting of pipe bombs near the

00:22:49.980 Capitol? Why did the FBI not take more aggressive action given the once denied but now confirmed fact

00:22:56.940 that social media platform Parler sent the FBI advanced warnings of specific plots of the use of

00:23:04.380 violence at the Capitol? So if the FBI had all of this information and did nothing, that's really

00:23:12.440 important that we find out why. Is it another intelligence failure? I thought we corrected that

00:23:19.920 with 9-11. Why did this happen? Why did their, why were they informed and not do anything? Why did

00:23:29.680 they say this was such a great, these three groups are grave, grave problems, but they didn't have any

00:23:36.160 intel on them? Those things don't make sense. And they could just be that the FBI sucks. It could also be

00:23:46.640 there's something else going on. What's the, uh, what, how would you summarize the accusation here

00:23:52.640 from, you know, uh, Glenn Greenwald and Tucker Carlson? Like is the idea that essentially the FBI,

00:23:59.960 uh, they had informants and they tried to dupe low level people into starting this attack, like,

00:24:08.460 like as he insinuates kind of with the Islamic terrorism cases in the past. And then it,

00:24:14.240 they just allowed the, the January 6th thing to happen without preparing it to bust low level

00:24:20.620 members of these groups. Like what, what, what's the, what's the working theory here?

00:24:25.440 I would say that that is the working theory. I'm not saying that that's a true theory. I don't know,

00:24:31.060 but there's enough questions to be asked now, um, because some things just don't make sense. And

00:24:37.420 they do allegedly, according to Glenn Greenwald and others, they have done this with low level Muslims,

00:24:45.660 um, and, um, and, and, and people, they, they deemed easy picking. Right. And so they've done it

00:24:55.160 before. They did it with, uh, Gretchen, Gretchen Whitmire, where they were involved in the planning

00:25:02.080 of the kidnapping, et cetera, et cetera. And so it's kind of the chicken and the egg, which one came

00:25:07.880 first? Did the FBI come in and plant these seeds? Uh, or did the FBI come in and just watch it and

00:25:16.920 play along and then grab them? Were they already doing that? It seems to me a notable difference

00:25:22.580 between these situations is that the attack happened, right? Like the riot occurred where like,

00:25:28.500 if you're going to, if you're going to lure and dupe in some low level Muslim terrorists into a fake 0.97

00:25:34.140 terrorist attack, you don't actually blow up the building at the end. Right. And here, like there's 0.98

00:25:39.120 this riot to take over the Capitol that was planned by some of them. And then they didn't actually plan,

00:25:45.400 they didn't plan to stop it in any way. So are they, the actual, you know, riot occurred.

00:25:51.560 So the, so the, the accusation there is, is, and it's not even an accusation, it's a question.

00:25:59.260 Sure. Is there an element of the FBI that wanted this to happen, allowed this to happen,

00:26:09.460 um, to be able to come up with more, you know, a new Patriot Act, a new war on terror. That's the

00:26:18.120 question that has to be answered, uh, through the answering of the other questions. Like if this

00:26:24.760 was the biggest threat and you guys said it, those three organizations, if they were such a threat,

00:26:30.700 why didn't you stop it? Why did it happen? You had informants there you had to have. And if you

00:26:37.860 didn't, why didn't you, they should, they should have had it. So it's there for sure. They should

00:26:42.740 have. And it's, it's unreasonable to think that they didn't. And if you were informed by Parler,

00:26:49.880 why didn't you stop it? Is there a new war on terror? And the answer is, uh, yeah, it kind of

00:26:59.280 looks, it kind of looks like it. Now I don't know about the FBI connection, but that's the way the

00:27:05.140 White House is moving. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. And we really want to thank

00:27:13.560 you for listening. I want to play some audio here on June 9th. A father in Illinois went to a school

00:27:28.840 board meeting and ranted about the use of critical race theory in schools. Now this is notable for a

00:27:35.120 couple of reasons. One, if he's opposing critical race theory being taught to children, he must hate

00:27:42.020 black people. And two, it's difficult for him to be accused of hating black people because he is 0.99

00:27:49.860 black. Oh, here it is. Here it is. What I want to talk about when we think about critical race theory, 0.98

00:27:53.320 what comes to mind? What comes to mind? When you say the word critical, what comes to your mom? You

00:27:57.840 think about the word critical? I have two degrees in medicine. You know what critical means to us?

00:28:01.280 Critical means that the person is almost getting ready to die or they will surely will die.

00:28:05.120 So when you say critical race theory, you might think of it in the sense of, oh, this information

00:28:09.620 is critical that they know as of the upper and important. But when I think about critical race

00:28:13.200 theory, I think about critical as in this is getting ready to kill something or kill somebody. 0.98

00:28:18.400 Yeah. I mean, we went on to. So this went to really explain how, how can he be oppressed if he's got two 0.66

00:28:25.240 medical degrees? Who's impressing him? Well, well, the, the left, you know, did their best to discredit

00:28:31.560 him trying to pick apart his educational history, which is interesting and predictable because, you

00:28:38.940 know, they say this guy has been kept down by the white man. You have to show that he hasn't

00:28:43.920 accomplished anything. And that puts the left into an awkward position of attempting to destroy the

00:28:48.840 reputation of a black man in order to keep their narrative that they are for the black man. It's a very 0.94

00:28:55.520 awkward thing, but awkward really is what the left is good at. They're really good at that.

00:29:00.580 It's true. What they are absolutely not good at is protecting black lives. That does not seem to be 0.97

00:29:07.940 an interest at all for them. They don't care about black lives. They're like 973rd on their priority 0.98

00:29:13.440 list. And that's behind money and power. And I believe vacation homes, depending on the district.

00:29:21.100 Well, and, and Juneteenth, the holiday they had never heard of until just recently, but that's

00:29:26.460 just us. So we're just evil conservatives saying those things. I mean, you have to look at the data

00:29:31.580 and the data of course shows, well, something very clear. So there's a new study out, um, not being

00:29:39.320 talked about that much in the media from the social science research network. It's authored by a PhD

00:29:43.500 student in economics at the university of Massachusetts Amherst. Guy's name is Travis Campbell. He decided to look

00:29:49.740 back at black lives matter as a movement and try to quantify how well it actually did. He studied BLM

00:29:58.140 from its birth in 2013 to 2019. Now, of course, this does not include, does not include the terrible race 1.00

00:30:07.880 riots that went on last year, uh, and the violent, uh, nonsense that went around the entire country, but it looked

00:30:16.480 at the situation. None of that is included. No, none of that is included. That year was not included

00:30:21.360 at all. So this is just from like the very beginnings of it. And they basically looked at it and they

00:30:26.660 said, okay, we know that some areas had lots of BLM protests against police violence, and we know many

00:30:33.380 did not. So if BLM was a positive force in stopping police violence, then you would expect that the areas

00:30:42.040 with the protest would see that type of violence go down. Right? Right. And did that happen? Well,

00:30:49.480 before we answer, you should know that the author of this paper does not appear to be exactly a

00:30:54.860 conservative in any way. What? I mean, it is the University of Massachusetts Amherst. They might not

00:31:00.900 be burning witches anymore in Massachusetts, but Salem is just a couple of hours away. And I'm pretty

00:31:06.160 sure conservatives are more flammable than witches. So, so, so did the study, did they find that the 0.87

00:31:13.300 BLM protest led to a decrease in officers committing homicides against civilians? Yes. Yes or no? It

00:31:21.320 actually did. Yes. Um, but stay with me for a second here. This is a quote from the study. Estimates

00:31:26.200 suggest that census places with BLM protests experienced a 15 to 20% decrease in police homicides

00:31:33.060 from 2014 to 2019. It's about a 300 fewer police homicides. This fall in lethal use of force fell

00:31:41.260 over time and became prominent when protests were large or frequent. Hey, so it's good, right? Yeah,

00:31:47.940 exactly. Uh, more BLM protests lead to less police homicides. Case closed, right? Well, first of all,

00:31:54.580 we have to examine the term police homicides for a second. This is where you always go wrong and try to

00:32:02.560 get sticky and tricky. Yeah. Okay. So let's look into the term. How do they define it? We've seen so

00:32:09.260 many TV shows with homicide in it that you just assume murder when you hear the word homicide,

00:32:15.040 but homicide is not a murder. It is a word that gives the impression to the average person that

00:32:19.620 you're talking about a murder or an unjust killing. But the legal definition of homicide is the killing of

00:32:24.700 a human being due to an act or omission of another included among homicides are murder and manslaughter,

00:32:31.180 but not all homicides are a crime, particularly when there is a lack of criminal intent. So the study

00:32:38.500 doesn't measure unjust uses of police force. It measures uses of force generally, some of which,

00:32:46.520 most of which are entirely justified. For example, one of the sources they use for the study is a

00:32:52.380 database on police shootings in the Washington Post, which indicates 999 people were shot and killed by

00:32:57.860 police in 2019. Of course, of those 999 people, it's important to note because of this context that

00:33:04.720 only 251 were black. That's 25%. In that group of black people killed by police are David Anderson and

00:33:14.280 Francine Graham, both black and both needlessly gunned down by police immediately following their 0.98

00:33:23.240 visit to a kosher store in Jersey City, where they killed three people, which followed their murder

00:33:28.280 of a police officer who was questioning them about another murder that was, uh, that occurred a week

00:33:36.400 earlier. So I would say those are justified. Yeah. Um, all right. Yes. So it's true, Glenn. Police did

00:33:44.000 kill two black people that day as they were in the middle of an active shooter spree where they were 0.98

00:33:49.360 targeting Jews in support of their black Israelite ideology. So, uh, give that one a ranking of 0.99

00:33:56.100 completely justified. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Whatever. I still stand by the study found BLM protests 0.81

00:34:02.780 associated with 300 less deaths by police over six years. And you have to ask yourself, Stu, why,

00:34:09.520 why, why did that happen? Well, there's several possibilities. And I will say Vox actually covered

00:34:14.640 some of this, uh, to their credit. Uh, they were one of the only ones who did, uh, in the study,

00:34:18.980 they say first, uh, what was the reason for the less, uh, less police homicide, fewer police homicides.

00:34:25.120 First, they observed an increase in the use of body cameras and different types of community policing.

00:34:29.640 It's possible that in response to BLM protests, police departments implemented reforms like

00:34:34.700 body cameras that reduce the lethal, lethal use of force. Um, look to me, there's no one who benefits

00:34:41.260 more from body cameras than the police themselves because they actually are able to tell the truth

00:34:45.660 about what happened. Um, but as Vox notes, there's not really convincing data that that would occur for

00:34:50.440 the, uh, account for these differences. So the second mechanism is that civilians are becoming more

00:34:55.600 wary of the police in the aftermath of these protests and the publicizing of instances of

00:35:01.140 police homicides. That could mean that people call nine one one or less or engage with police officers

00:35:08.040 less on their own volition, which has the effect of reducing civilian police interactions and thereby

00:35:13.540 fatal interactions as well. Okay. All right. So wait a minute. So people are more scared of the police.

00:35:19.660 So they're not calling the police when they have, when they have something because they're afraid

00:35:26.120 that somebody is going to get shot because you look, she was just trying to bash her head in.

00:35:31.940 That's all she, that's all she was trying to do. She just had a knife pointed at her chest and, uh, 0.98

00:35:36.700 and we shouldn't call the police. These are just kids having another knife fight, Glenn. It's no big deal.

00:35:42.740 Sure. Sure. Any other reason? Okay. Yeah. And this one I think is the one that connects with me the

00:35:47.500 most, but finally, the third mechanism is something called the Ferguson effect. The supposition that

00:35:52.360 protests against police brutality, reduce officer morale and effort due to the intensified scrutiny

00:35:58.620 from the community and media. In other words, officers stopped doing their jobs as aggressively.

00:36:03.800 This can lead to reduce reduced arrests, especially for less serious crimes like disorderly conduct or

00:36:10.300 marijuana possession. Okay. So the police are tired of being called genocidal maniacs. So

00:36:16.300 they're just not getting involved as much. I guess that's the third mechanism, which sounds delightful

00:36:22.820 too. So let's take all of this at face value, 300 less police homicides. But remember the overwhelming

00:36:30.200 majority of these quote unquote homicides are justified. So the police aren't around to take

00:36:36.180 those people out and they don't want to get involved in nasty situations. Yeah. And how do those

00:36:42.780 situations play out? Right. Like what if the police aren't around to take out the evil

00:36:46.800 criminals? What happens? Well, the study looked into that too. And what it found, I think would

00:36:51.740 shock most people, maybe not in this audience, but most people, the results indicate that civilian

00:36:57.040 homicides, civilian homicides increased by 10% following protests, exceeding the fall in lethal

00:37:04.860 force due to the relative frequency. Wait a minute, wait a minute. So that says, yes, 300 fewer people

00:37:13.220 were killed by police, but a lot more people were killed by civilians because the police weren't

00:37:18.860 around. Is that, do I have that right? Yes. Okay. That's great. Yeah. Great. Yeah. Police shootings

00:37:25.660 went down, but murders by civilians went up, way up from, this is from the study from 2014 to 2019,

00:37:32.180 there were somewhere between 1,000 and 6,000 more homicides than would have been expected

00:37:39.460 if places with protests were on the same trend as places that did not have protests.

00:37:46.420 Okay. I just want to make sure I have this right. 300 homicides, which might have been justified, 0.83

00:37:54.020 might not have been. Okay. Let's just take all of them were just bad cops. 300. They traded the 300

00:37:59.980 for anywhere between 1,000 and 6,000 people being killed. Yes. And of course, that sounds like a good 0.99

00:38:08.560 deal. It does. It does. Good negotiation here. And we, of course, know because of the racial makeup 0.79

00:38:14.040 of these areas that these one to 6,000 additional people who were murdered were disproportionately black.

00:38:20.140 Do black lives matter? I don't understand exactly. Shooting an unarmed black man who's completely 1.00

00:38:28.960 innocent is obviously terrible. But trading every police shooting saved for somewhere between 0.91

00:38:34.940 3 and 20 murders of civilians is not exactly what I would call black lives mattering. It sounds like 1.00

00:38:42.700 something designed in a lab by the KKK. No, no. No, no, no. This is unintended consequences. 0.92

00:38:50.160 This is what happens when you just don't think things through and it's unintended consequences.

00:38:55.040 That's all this is. I really don't. I don't think that that's true, Glenn. And I will say...

00:39:00.980 No, really?

00:39:01.500 You know, you look at this and you say, the overwhelming majority of the police shootings

00:39:06.420 are justified, including people who were on active shooting sprees. They're including in these numbers.

00:39:12.960 And you're trading that for three to 20 times the amount of people that are dead. Vox sums up this

00:39:19.480 study. And to their credit, they did actually show some of these results about BLM causing more black 0.99

00:39:25.700 lives to end prematurely. But they included this bit, which I think after hearing the details of

00:39:32.160 the study sounds controversial. They say this, protests can do a lot. They can raise awareness,

00:39:36.780 create solidarity, or undermine existing relationships, change public opinion, strengthen,

00:39:41.820 or weaken institutions and affect the outcome of elections. But according to this study,

00:39:46.320 BLM protests also produce their intended effect. I mean, I think that sounds nuts, right? I mean, 1.00

00:39:56.380 what do you mean by intended effect? Three to 20 times as many people were murdered than saved,

00:40:00.960 and you say they produce their intended effect. But I think when you think about it in context,

00:40:05.880 they're right. The BLM protests did produce their intended result. It's just that their intended

00:40:11.280 result had nothing to do with protecting black lives. It had to do with...

00:40:15.600 Exactly right.

00:40:15.960 As you said, power, money, new vacation homes. And as we all know, all of this has come to the BLM

00:40:23.520 founders and allies in record numbers. Trading one criminal for 20 innocent people wasn't

00:40:29.340 like the plan per se, but it's like the cost of doing business. Sure, people died, but hey,

00:40:35.080 elections were won. Donations poured in. Real estate transactions were completed.

00:40:39.980 So I fully agree. BLM protests do produce their intended effect. But maybe it's about time we start

00:40:47.220 questioning those intentions.

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