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Bill Cosby was released from prison yesterday and is now a free man. Is that a good thing or a bad thing? And why is Britney Spears not a free woman? And what does climate change have to do with it?
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Welcome to the podcast. Today it's Pat and Stu in for Glenn who's on vacation. He's coming back in a week or so.
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Today we talk about Bill Cosby. He's out of prison. He's a free man. Is that a good thing?
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We'll get into that a little bit. Britney Spears. She's not a free woman. Is that a good thing?
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We'll get into that a little bit. Climate change is ruining our country.
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All of a sudden, because I didn't know this was in progress, court-wise.
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Bill Cosby had his conviction overturned by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court.
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A lot of times you hear these cases get overturned, and then they wind through the court for another
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Nope, been overturned, and that day he's leaving.
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He's just home, ready to, now, I don't know that he's going to leave the house all that much.
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It's been a slight fall-off from the Cosby show years.
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If you don't monitor the entertainment industry closely, you might not have sensed that.
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But there's been a slight fall-off in his popularity from the most popular and beloved
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And that's not necessarily the move you want for your career.
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And that's why he said during his prison sentence that he's probably going to serve the full
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10 years because he's never going to admit what he did.
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And that was part of the, apparently, part of the process to be released in three years
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Is to say, admit that he did it when he says he didn't do it.
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In fact, not only was he not going to admit to any wrongdoing whatsoever, he wouldn't attend
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So he would have, not conforming to the conditions of early release, he wouldn't have been released
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Now, it was a very strange day with that case in that you don't expect a guy at that
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high profile level to just be released and go home the same afternoon.
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But when you really look at this case, and this has been true the entire time, it really
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I think a lot of people did what most people would do, which is to look at, okay, look,
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You get the quotes that you hear, yes, I got quaaludes and I was drugging women or whatever.
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He didn't quite say it that, but that's how it's portrayed every time.
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And you look at his fall from grace, the fact that he's been beat up by everybody, no one
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likes him anymore, there's really no defenders of him.
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In fact, she said, finally, justice has been served or whatever she said yesterday.
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She was the one person who tweeted something good about him.
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She has, he does have that one defender and it's his wife.
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She's the one, by the way, yeah, who played his wife on the Cosby show.
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Seems to be a lot of women who were accusing him.
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Like, obviously, you can't just make it about that.
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He definitely said some things in the transcript of the trial for the civil case that would
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lead you to believe he was certainly not a good guy.
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And maybe very well did some terrible things to the women.
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So, let's just assume for a second he did these things.
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A hundred percent, we know mentally that he did these things.
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If you go back and look at how this progressed, basically, this woman accused Bill Cosby of
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And they were going to bring him to criminal trial.
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The prosecutor at the time, or the DA at the time, says, okay, I'm looking at the evidence
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This happens all the time in these types of cases.
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This is why, by the way, if something, God forbid, something like this happens to you,
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go immediately to the authorities so they can get as much physical evidence as possible
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Because once you let a few years go by, it's impossible to look at these things unless
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And in a lot of these cases, it was decades and decades and decades.
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So, the DA says, okay, I'm looking at the evidence here.
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There's no way we're going to get him convicted in a criminal suit.
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Because he's just going to say Fifth Amendment right to not have to testify.
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And they're just going to throw it out of court.
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So, their solution to that was to say, hey, you know, Bill, what if we give you immunity
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in this case in exchange for you to testify in the civil case to give some answers to these
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So, you'll be guaranteed you will not be convicted and go to prison if you give, actually tell
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So, he, they think about it, you know, now look, if you're totally innocent, do you just
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So, in his telling of the story, he said, well, look, I'm, I can get right, get rid of the
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possibility of going to prison and the worst case is I'll have to go and I'll defend myself
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in this, in this case and I might lose some money in a civil case.
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They go through, they wind up settling the civil case eventually, he pays a few million
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This testimony is sealed, guaranteed to be sealed, and guaranteed that he cannot be convicted
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That DA leaves, the new one comes in and says, you know what?
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The thing is, when we made that deal, there wasn't this comedian that went viral about the
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So, let's reopen it and just forget all the stuff we told him before.
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We can use all that testimony that had to be sealed.
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And so, they just redid it all totally against what had been guaranteed to him this entire
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He obviously, now they have the testimony of him saying the Quaaludes thing and all these
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So, he looks much, much worse than he would have looked initially.
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They just tricked him and overturned their own promise.
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Like, as bad as this guy may be, he may very well be a serial rapist.
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But just like everyone else in this country, you get rights in the legal system.
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And the government cannot continually screw you and tell you one thing and do the other.
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Did he admit to all those things in the civil trial?
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So, he said things like, you know, I bought Quaaludes.
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Did you ever, what was your intent when you bought the Quaaludes?
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Now, when they asked him, did you have sex with them without, you know, when they were
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So, basically, again, I'm not saying I believe his case, but his case is.
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So, he gave him Quaaludes just to relax him, get him in the mood.
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His case was basically like, you know, in this, you know, whatever.
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It would like, take Quaaludes, because no one uses Quaaludes anymore.
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You should ask Jeffy in here, because he'd be able to.
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Or, you know, again, I'm not, again, I don't agree with his point.
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But his point is like, basically, I bought a case of beer to drink with a woman.
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And then, in my hopes, I was going to sleep with her.
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That was kind of what he was, his point was in these moments.
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Of course, Quaaludes now are much more associated with drugging of women.
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That he was slipping the Quaaludes into drinks or whatever.
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They would drink them and would not, they would fall asleep.
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However, they basically went to Bill Cosby and said,
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Hey, we're not going to pursue any prosecution.
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In exchange for that, you have to abandon your Fifth Amendment right
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Your constitutional right's gone because you cannot be convicted.
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And so they used that against him in the criminal trial?
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Yeah, they brought all of the information they got from the civil trial
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and said, okay, now you can be convicted and we can use this information.
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There's not a lot of people are going to be sympathetic, though.
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In the eyes of the American people, he did something wrong.
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This is a positive development for our legal system because we have decided as a country
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to start doing justice via social media, via documentary.
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You know, like they came out with a documentary against this person.
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We now know they're evil and they never get to do anything in society again.
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And when we have an actual legal system that's supposed to go through this stuff and just
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because like it seems like people were like, well, Bill Cosby, we all think he's bad.
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In fact, it looks like he did some really, really bad stuff and we don't like him.
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And this is different than a normal person because we really don't like him.
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So we're just going to, you know, the whole legal system.
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What if we don't do that for now and just instead focus on the fact that we really don't like him?
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You know, like what if we overturn all these rules and laws because Bill Cosby's really bad?
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Have you seen the Hannibal comedy session on it?
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And even when it benefits the worst people among us, those rules still get to be applied.
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And the other interesting aspect of this, he was admitting to all of that stuff
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with his wife in tow, with his wife hearing it all.
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There was never a point where he was like, I didn't cheat on my wife.
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I mean, there may have been a point, but that point is long past.
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Yeah, not during the case and not during the trial and not during any interviews did he
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And she sat there right by him a few times in interviews and they talked about this stuff.
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It was a known secret in Hollywood for a long time.
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There are people who, you know, I was talking to somebody who went to Temple recently and
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he was like, you know, everybody, everybody, it was like a known secret around there.
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Like he would always be down like having his arms around the young girls.
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And, but that's neither here nor there when you're talking about putting someone in prison.
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Like you can have all the beliefs you want about somebody, but you can't, you can't throw
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And I do feel like there's this thing that's happening in our society right now where we,
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if enough social media pressure exists, it's just okay to break the rules to punish that
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You might have like, you might have the right to be, to, to not be in prison, but we, we
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It does seem to be almost the long and the short of it.
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However, you should go to prison because look at all these freaking retweets.
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That's not America going to the first amendment, Pat.
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The speech, the first amendment protects is the speech people hate because they, it's not
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the, the, everybody who says nice things to each other.
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No one's trying to censor hallmark greeting cards.
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It's supposed to be there to protect the worst people in society.
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And I think that may very well be the case here, but the fact that that still stands
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in the Pennsylvania Supreme court, because they're not going to want to, they're not
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going to have fun at, at dinner parties here for a while after this one.
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Uh, so he's, he's free now for the rest of his life.
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Well, unless he rapes again or does something illegal again and gets caught for it.
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But Britney Spears, uh, lost her bid to get out of her conservative conservatorship with
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And it just seems, uh, bizarre to me that a 39 year old woman can't run her own life if
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And, you know, we were talking during the break, maybe she is, and we just haven't heard.
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That is the one thing that should cause a little bit of hesitation with this, because
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if it is, if the situation is as it's been presented in the media, it's absolute injustice,
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If she's just like, maybe she's got some issues.
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But so many un-American things are happening right now.
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I will say very well may be exactly what we think it is on the surface.
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Maybe it is completely un-American and completely out of control.
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I mean, we have a background of information on this, right?
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Where the, the parent of a child star wants to take in their millions and is dedicated
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to basically ruining their life in that pursuit.
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We certainly have plenty of evidence on that from other cases.
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The only thing I would, I would hesitate, and I don't know the laws in California per se,
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but I will say, you know, having to go through, you know, some stuff recently, uh, regards
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to people, you know, uh, with mental health issues and, and seeing people try to handle
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those issues, uh, it is, it's not like you walk in to a courtroom and say, I'd like a
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And so the question is like, people are like, well, I can't believe that her dad would say
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she's forced to take an IUD and she, she's every one of her dance moves is, it goes through
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Stop for a second and think, what if, what if he didn't do that?
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Just what if everything she said was completely made up?
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What if every one of her claims exists in her mind as reality, but is not reality?
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That's what mental, severe mental health looks like.
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And so we don't know, for example, you know, I'm just this, I don't have information on
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Like, did Britney Spears try to commit suicide eight times?
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I'm not saying that, the court does know it though.
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And so they might be dealing with a completely different set of information.
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And like, I will say some of the claims, you know, that she was making, I read her testimony
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And they sounded familiar from other people I've heard going through these situations.
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Like people who have gone through and said, they, you know, there's like a new accusation
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There's a new sort of like, uh, thing you've never heard of some, and they're very often
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But when you investigate them with someone dealing with severe mental health issues, a
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lot of times what you find out is they just made it up, you know?
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I mean, as crazy as it sounds, and it may not be Britney Spears.
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I just think that we, when we look at it, we have to understand that these situations
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Like I've seen, you know, cases where, you know, something will happen, a dramatic event
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And, you know, someone dealing with mental health issues will hear about that event and
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They'll all of a sudden start telling people it happened to them instead of the other family
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Because it's just like the brain is just, you know, it's just not working.
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And if you think about yourself as a dad, if your daughter is going through something
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like this, you're going to do what you can to try to protect them.
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Now, given that it's Hollywood, given that we're millions of dollars on the line, given
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that she is seemingly coherent enough to come out and speak and do some basic things, it does
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But I would just, you know, you gotta, there's a reason I think you need to at least have
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hesitation to believe like this is the ultimate injustice open and shut case.
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The court knows a lot more about this than any of us do.
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And if she really has been a danger to herself, or if she's a, you know, if she's a person
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who is incapable of sort of like landing in reality and that, you know, every time she
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has a dealing with someone else, she can't keep track of what is real and what is not.
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At times it feels like when you listen to the media, you listen to the government, doesn't
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feel like anybody has it anymore, but like you need to be able to say, Hey, last week
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I went to Arby's and got a roast beef sandwich and a curly fries.
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Like all of us, when we would say that we would know we were at that Arby's.
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What if you never went and got the curly fries?
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A lot of, there are people who go through severe mental illness where they can't decipher
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the difference between what is real and what is not.
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And to get a conservatorship over a celebrity with millions of dollars of legal backing behind
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That is very young to get a conservatorship at all.
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I would argue at least from my understanding of it, it is incredibly difficult to do.
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And when you look back to when you remember what was going on in 2008 with her.
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She had some meltdowns and she shaved her head and stuff.
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But, I mean, you can shave your head if you want to.
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And I think there were bigger issues than shaving her head.
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And so, that's how the conservatorship started in the first place.
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And that's how she lost control of her financial life.
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And the legal system should err on the side of freedom.
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So, if she's even close to being able to deal with anything in her life, even if she is a
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disaster, even if she's a person who's going to go out and take the second she's free,
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go to a casino with all of her money and bet it all and lose it all, even that she should
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Like, she should be able to do what she wants to do.
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But, you know, it may be more significant than that.
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And we should remember that everything that she said in her hearing should not be taken as truth.
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You know, it is really important that if she's at all capable of handling her life, she should
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Even if there's a lot of people who, I mean, there's people I know who are, you know, in this
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I mean, Jeffy should not be allowed to handle his life.
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How many times have we argued that he should not be able to be around his children?
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But, I mean, no one's going to want a conservatorship for Jeffy.
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Not even Britney's dad could intervene and make that one work out okay.
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You get the conservatorship and suddenly you owe millions of dollars.
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But, you know, so the legal system should always err on freedom.
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But there is, there should be at least consideration to the alternative.
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Because it did seem like the judge was pretty solid in his ruling and pretty definitive that this needed to continue.
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But somebody else joined in the, she wanted some institution, some financial institution to be part of it.
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And so, now he's got to share that conservatorship with somebody else.
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But it's going to continue for an indefinite amount of time.
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I don't know how many times you can revisit that and try to over, overcome the conservatorship.
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I don't know how many times you can revisit that.
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And, you know, look, there, if it's, that's the other thing that you could argue here is that, let's just say it was a really bad situation.
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Most people probably are unable to do what she's done here.
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You can't, it's hard to come up with the legal, you don't have the resources to mount a legal challenge against it.
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You also don't have the public support to go through something like that.
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You just, you're just wasting away in conservatorship land.
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But she has the resources to be able to challenge it in ways that other people wouldn't.
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So maybe, you know, in the, in this world where it actually was a good decision to put her in a conservatorship, if you accept that for a second, most people wouldn't be able to get out of it where she might be able to get out of it because she has those resources.
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So are the resources helping overturn a situation that was appropriate is the other way to look at it.
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And again, I don't, I don't know, but it is one of those situations.
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It does feel like in a similar way with the Cosby thing where social media documentaries, we do justice by documentary.
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Now, the New York Times released a documentary that said Brittany had really unfair treatment of her when she was younger.
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So we now kind of, everyone's on that side of things.
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And we now kind of look at this and say, all right, well, that's the way it is.
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It's Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck Program.
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We're filling in for Glenn here for a few days as he's on vacation far away from here.
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Like we were going to have a January 6th commission after all.
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Now, this one's done by the Democrats in Congress.
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So it's not this, they were initially going for this special commission, a bipartisan variety.
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And that obviously was not an honest attempt to get the information needed.
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I am of the thought that there is information we can get from a commission looking into this if it was honest.
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This one isn't going to be honest, but I would like to know.
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There's certainly questions like why the hell was the security so bad at the Capitol?
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Yeah, this was a, you know, there was a mob, a lot of people.
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There were some people who were pretty bad in the mob.
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A lot of people who were just, you know, there for the speech and didn't do much of anything.
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What if it was a foreign group of terrorists that decided to do this?
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What if, remember, this is an announced rally down the street where they knew it was a contentious time.
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They knew that a lot of these people obviously believe what was going on in the Capitol was very bad.
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What would happen if like a foreign terrorist group did try to go in and kill a bunch of our representatives?
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And like, if we had an honest government and people who actually cared about the outcomes in these matters,
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you know, there would be reason to really look into this and get a report.
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Why wasn't the National Guard out there in less than, what was it, four hours?
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It's just not going to happen with a commission like this.
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I mean, you look at the New York Times put out a documentary yesterday.
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And, of course, obviously, you know the Times is coming.
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I don't need to tell you in advance what story they're telling.
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Now, so they don't spend any time on the people who were not violent.
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There was, you know, I don't know how many people were at that particular rally, but thousands and thousands and thousands of people.
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We've talked to many of them who were there and didn't even know any of this occurred.
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There weren't any nonviolent people there, were there?
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You know, judging by all the piles of dead bodies, I wouldn't think there was a single nonviolent person there.
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But a lot of people, like, went to the Trump speech and went back to their cars.
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Like, there's a lot of that, and they, of course, don't show any of that.
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And there are people who went to the Capitol and didn't go into the building.
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There were also people who went to the Capitol, did go in the building, but didn't break anything or steal anything or hurt anybody.
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Now, we do, because all of that, what you just said is true, we do, at times, forget that there was a lot.
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And, like, they have legit, the Times does this thing very well.
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If you go back and look at, for example, they did the exact same thing for the Las Vegas shooting.
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And it's really a legitimately incredible thing to watch.
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They kind of place them on a map so you know exactly where they happened.
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Like, this person was driving by this building.
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I mean, really, when they do, like, actual journalism, you can get some value out of the New York Times occasionally.
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This one is obviously much more partisan than the Las Vegas shooting was.
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And there are legitimately bad people, you know, bashing police officers over the head with stuff.
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But still, like, I'm never, I don't give a crap about partisan nonsense when it comes to, if you're a person that hits a police officer over the head with something, screw you.
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These people risk their lives for us every day.
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The same way that I don't care what you think about the George Floyd case, don't throw a brick at a police officer.
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I will stand by that till the day I freaking die.
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If you had a Trump flagpole and were bashing police officers over the head with it, screw you.
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Honestly, I don't, I don't, it was not nothing.
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That being said, what are they going to find in this report?
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You know, it's, was it an insurrection, some calculated attempt to take, to actually take over the government?
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Were there, they have messages and they have a lot of people saying those types of things.
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It was not zero people in the crowd who were thinking that way.
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There were some, but it was an overwhelming minority of, and almost all these people were unarmed.
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How the hell did they think they were going to actually take control of the government?
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It was unacceptable, but it was not what the Democrats are saying it was.
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They are trying to make every grandmother who's in 300 miles of this thing and voted for Donald Trump into a criminal.
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And while the, the, the, the events of the day might lead you to say, hey, maybe we should be prepared for this next time.
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And maybe we should take an honest view and look at how we can do that.
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Because obviously the way we're doing it now does not work.
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That would be something that a commission might, a serious country with serious people and a serious government might look into and say, hey, here's, here are the steps we should take next time.
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Instead, they're just going to make this into a way to try to make January 6th into a date you remember like 9-11.
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It was the worst thing that had ever happened to us.
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And despite the fact that the, the business of the government continued on the same day, also January 6th, kind of indicating maybe it wasn't, you know, Pearl Harbor or 9-11.
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It was a bad day, but it was not what they're trying to make it out to be.
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They want to make that out to be the only thing that's happened.
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And I would be, I think there was a really legitimate request by Republicans who said, look, we'll do your bipartisan commission.
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And we're also going to look at the violence that happened over the summer when billions of dollars of damage were done, when way more people were killed, far more death occurred in those riots than the one that happened on January 6th.
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And there were federal buildings that were attacked.
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It was government stuff as well as just property as they like try to demean, you know, of someone's life's work in their local business.
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Huge swaps of American cities actually taken over by mobs.
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And they act as if that should be investigated too.
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What, you know, what groups, where did they get the money for?
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How about the money that was raised by, you know, one of the people serving in the administration
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who was tweeting out links to bail the criminals out of jail.
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It's part of political violence in the same, in the same time frame.
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And it's, instead it's, it's, they're, they're.
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They're, they're seen as totally different events.
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The truth of the reason why they weren't prepared for January 6th is because they had
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seen 9 billion conservative-leaning rallies not go awry.
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There's always people who are saying stuff like this.
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There's, you can always find somebody online who says, we need to take, that's our house.
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The bottom line is these rallies have occurred all over the country for a really long time.
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So they probably thought they were going to be fine.
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You have to be able to be prepared for these situations in the off chance they do occur.
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But when the left marches, these things go awry all the time.
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And so you need to prepare for everybody like you prepare for the left, I guess.
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But there's no answers in a commission like this.
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And, you know, they put Liz Cheney is going to be on the commission.
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I'm not going to win her any friends in the Republican Party, obviously.
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They're going to they're saying they're going to strip her commission committee assignments over it.
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So, I mean, they're going to claim it's a bipartisan thing because Liz Cheney is on there.
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And obviously, Liz Cheney has a has her mind made up on this one.
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But, you know, we can't act as if this is some bipartisan fair commission.
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It's just going to be a way to make January 6th into the only thing you're supposed to think about and the only thing you're supposed to vote on and the only thing that's supposed to influence you.
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And obviously, that's not the right way to think about our country right now.
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We've got a lot of problems going on and ongoing Trump related riots at the Capitol are not one of them.
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You know, that was a one off event, I think, in our history.
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Well, and they acted like it was going to happen again and again and again.
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What was the next date that there was supposed to be?
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And I don't think anything was ever being planned because it never came off.
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You know, a lot of this comes back to the way you get to retroactively look at things like social media.
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Yeah, you can go back and look at people who were talking tough.
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I'm tired of it, but that's what everybody does.
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You know, everybody's saying all these things and everybody says they're going to, you know, look at the left.
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Every time we look, we're able to find hundreds of people who say they're going to go burn down buildings and take over the government and, you know, assassinate public figures.
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So, after something happens, you can retroactively go back and prove any case you want.
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But in reality, these things are always out there in a society that values free speech.
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And all you can do is try to prepare yourself in case something bad does happen.
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I mean, think about if if you went back to the days of like the 90s and there was real social media back then.
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Like, what would Timothy McVeigh have on his Facebook page?
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You'd be able to go back and say, this guy was saying this stuff on his Facebook page over and over again.
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You can always go back and find people who say bad things.
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You know, and look, the people who did those things, particularly the officers, should be.
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I have no problem with throwing the book at those people.
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But, you know, what they're trying to do with this event is just it's it's kind of like left wing fan fiction.
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You know, they're just trying to make this into this thing that it isn't.
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It was it was it was a it was a day that we should know and we should make sure that people who are responsible for those bad things are prosecuted for them.
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But like, let's be honest about it for a second here.
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And there's no ability to do that in the media.