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00:01:26.500 A really surprising development yesterday.

00:01:30.660 All of a sudden, because I didn't know this was in progress, court-wise.

00:01:35.780 Bill Cosby had his conviction overturned by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court.

00:01:42.300 And he left prison yesterday.

00:01:44.480 Yeah.

00:01:44.960 Bang! Just like that, he's out and free.

00:01:47.260 That was wild.

00:01:48.820 Really something.

00:01:49.580 A lot of times you hear these cases get overturned, and then they wind through the court for another

00:01:53.840 six months.

00:01:55.440 Right.

00:01:56.220 Nope, been overturned, and that day he's leaving.

00:01:58.280 Yeah, you're free to go.

00:01:59.320 Oh, see ya.

00:02:00.000 Not even like the, you're under probation.

00:02:03.880 Nothing.

00:02:04.640 He's just home, ready to, now, I don't know that he's going to leave the house all that much.

00:02:09.600 But I don't think.

00:02:10.840 I don't think he's quite as popular as he was.

00:02:13.200 Yeah.

00:02:13.520 You know, in the late 80s.

00:02:14.580 It's been a slight fall-off from the Cosby show years.

00:02:17.200 I don't know if people have sensed that.

00:02:19.700 If you don't monitor the entertainment industry closely, you might not have sensed that.

00:02:25.320 But there's been a slight fall-off in his popularity from the most popular and beloved

00:02:29.780 figure in all of America to the...

00:02:34.580 To not so much? 0.99

00:02:35.280 To rapist. 1.00

00:02:36.260 Yeah, to rapist. 1.00

00:02:37.140 Serial rapist, really. 0.99

00:02:38.660 And that's not necessarily the move you want for your career.

00:02:44.740 Now, he's always maintained his innocence.

00:02:47.340 Yes.

00:02:47.540 And that's why he said during his prison sentence that he's probably going to serve the full

00:02:55.540 10 years because he's never going to admit what he did.

00:02:59.280 And that was part of the, apparently, part of the process to be released in three years

00:03:03.980 instead of 10.

00:03:04.680 Is to say, admit that he did it when he says he didn't do it.

00:03:08.980 In fact, not only was he not going to admit to any wrongdoing whatsoever, he wouldn't attend

00:03:13.120 their sexual predator class either.

00:03:15.200 He wouldn't do the therapy.

00:03:16.780 And he just flat out refused.

00:03:19.100 So he would have, not conforming to the conditions of early release, he wouldn't have been released

00:03:26.440 early.

00:03:26.820 Yeah, he would have been there for 10 years.

00:03:28.300 10 years.

00:03:28.620 Probably dies in prison.

00:03:30.100 Probably.

00:03:30.620 Probably dies in prison.

00:03:31.540 Now, it was a very strange day with that case in that you don't expect a guy at that

00:03:39.200 high profile level to just be released and go home the same afternoon.

00:03:44.040 I mean, it was a very strange development.

00:03:45.840 But when you really look at this case, and this has been true the entire time, it really

00:03:53.820 was, in my view, a miscarriage of justice.

00:03:57.440 Really?

00:03:57.940 Yes.

00:03:58.240 And I know-

00:03:59.360 I didn't follow it that closely.

00:04:01.120 I think a lot of people did what most people would do, which is to look at, okay, look,

00:04:07.880 wait a minute, he did what?

00:04:08.900 You get the quotes that you hear, yes, I got quaaludes and I was drugging women or whatever.

00:04:13.660 He didn't quite say it that, but that's how it's portrayed every time.

00:04:16.380 And you look at his fall from grace, the fact that he's been beat up by everybody, no one

00:04:24.620 likes him anymore, there's really no defenders of him.

00:04:28.060 Except Felicia Rashad. 0.85

00:04:30.060 Which is a shame.

00:04:30.560 She has been the lone defender of this guy.

00:04:34.160 In fact, she said, finally, justice has been served or whatever she said yesterday.

00:04:39.100 She was the one person who tweeted something good about him.

00:04:42.020 Yes, that's true.

00:04:43.140 She has, he does have that one defender and it's his wife. 0.99

00:04:46.340 She's the one, by the way, yeah, who played his wife on the Cosby show.

00:04:50.600 Claire Huxtable, was it?

00:04:51.780 Yeah.

00:04:52.160 That's been a while.

00:04:52.960 It's been a while.

00:04:54.160 But, so, stepping back for a second.

00:04:57.760 Did Bill Cosby do these things to these women? 0.99

00:05:00.100 I don't know.

00:05:01.460 I wasn't there.

00:05:03.320 Seems to be a lot of women who were accusing him. 1.00

00:05:05.700 Like, obviously, you can't just make it about that.

00:05:08.900 He definitely said some things in the transcript of the trial for the civil case that would

00:05:14.920 lead you to believe he was certainly not a good guy.

00:05:17.640 And maybe very well did some terrible things to the women.

00:05:20.540 So, let's just assume for a second he did these things.

00:05:23.360 A hundred percent, we know mentally that he did these things.

00:05:27.780 He still should not have gone to prison.

00:05:30.760 And here's the thing.

00:05:31.600 If you go back and look at how this progressed, basically, this woman accused Bill Cosby of

00:05:38.720 these terrible things.

00:05:40.100 He said he didn't do it.

00:05:41.560 He denied it.

00:05:42.740 And they were going to bring him to criminal trial.

00:05:45.380 The prosecutor at the time, or the DA at the time, says, okay, I'm looking at the evidence

00:05:49.800 here.

00:05:50.280 We have nothing except she's saying it, right?

00:05:53.900 She's saying it.

00:05:55.040 And he's saying that it didn't happen.

00:05:57.220 No physical evidence.

00:05:58.200 This happens all the time in these types of cases.

00:05:59.760 This is why, by the way, if something, God forbid, something like this happens to you,

00:06:03.880 go immediately to the authorities so they can get as much physical evidence as possible

00:06:08.000 and circumstantial evidence as possible.

00:06:10.400 Because once you let a few years go by, it's impossible to look at these things unless

00:06:15.320 you have the person admitting it.

00:06:17.020 And there were way more than a few years.

00:06:19.000 Right.

00:06:19.640 Yeah.

00:06:19.920 And in a lot of these cases, it was decades and decades and decades.

00:06:22.760 Yeah.

00:06:22.920 So, the DA says, okay, I'm looking at the evidence here.

00:06:27.260 There's no way we're going to get him convicted in a criminal suit.

00:06:31.280 There's no way.

00:06:32.160 Because he's just going to say Fifth Amendment right to not have to testify.

00:06:38.160 And they're just going to throw it out of court.

00:06:39.380 So, their solution to that was to say, hey, you know, Bill, what if we give you immunity

00:06:49.100 in this case in exchange for you to testify in the civil case to give some answers to these

00:06:56.440 questions?

00:06:57.260 So, you'll be guaranteed you will not be convicted and go to prison if you give, actually tell

00:07:03.580 your story and answer these questions.

00:07:05.060 Mm-hmm.

00:07:05.760 So, he, they think about it, you know, now look, if you're totally innocent, do you just

00:07:10.700 say, screw it, I'm going to court anyway?

00:07:12.560 Maybe, but you're taking a huge risk.

00:07:14.280 Right.

00:07:15.060 So, in his telling of the story, he said, well, look, I'm, I can get right, get rid of the

00:07:21.120 possibility of going to prison and the worst case is I'll have to go and I'll defend myself

00:07:26.040 in this, in this case and I might lose some money in a civil case.

00:07:29.580 Right.

00:07:30.100 Mm-hmm.

00:07:30.800 So, that happens.

00:07:32.780 They go through, they wind up settling the civil case eventually, he pays a few million

00:07:36.200 dollars.

00:07:37.160 This testimony is sealed, guaranteed to be sealed, and guaranteed that he cannot be convicted

00:07:43.260 of this crime and go to prison.

00:07:45.280 That DA leaves, the new one comes in and says, you know what?

00:07:49.980 The thing is, when we made that deal, there wasn't this comedian that went viral about the

00:07:55.360 case.

00:07:55.800 So, let's reopen it and just forget all the stuff we told him before.

00:07:59.320 Instead, we'll just say, you know what?

00:08:01.660 We can use all that testimony that had to be sealed.

00:08:04.100 And you know what?

00:08:04.900 You can be convicted for it.

00:08:06.280 Sorry.

00:08:07.660 And so, they just redid it all totally against what had been guaranteed to him this entire

00:08:13.700 time.

00:08:14.960 It goes through the process.

00:08:16.480 He obviously, now they have the testimony of him saying the Quaaludes thing and all these

00:08:20.580 other things.

00:08:21.260 So, he looks much, much worse than he would have looked initially.

00:08:23.680 They just tricked him and overturned their own promise.

00:08:28.420 That's crazy.

00:08:29.160 And that is absolutely not our legal system.

00:08:32.660 I'm sorry. 0.98

00:08:33.440 Like, as bad as this guy may be, he may very well be a serial rapist.

00:08:38.980 But just like everyone else in this country, you get rights in the legal system. 0.75

00:08:46.240 And the government cannot continually screw you and tell you one thing and do the other.

00:08:51.620 Did he admit to all those things in the civil trial?

00:08:53.840 He didn't admit to them.

00:08:54.800 So, he said things like, you know, I bought Quaaludes.

00:08:57.720 Did you ever buy Quaaludes to be with women? 0.96

00:09:00.200 Yes.

00:09:01.040 Did you ever, what was your intent when you bought the Quaaludes? 0.99

00:09:04.020 Were you wanting to have sex with these women? 0.99

00:09:05.920 Yes. 0.99

00:09:06.900 Now, when they asked him, did you have sex with them without, you know, when they were

00:09:11.760 asleep or against their will? 0.64

00:09:13.500 He says no.

00:09:14.680 So, basically, again, I'm not saying I believe his case, but his case is.

00:09:19.100 So, he gave him Quaaludes just to relax him, get him in the mood.

00:09:21.120 Yeah.

00:09:21.660 His case was basically like, you know, in this, you know, whatever.

00:09:25.520 It's an aphrodisiac.

00:09:26.360 That's all the Quaaludes are.

00:09:27.500 Right.

00:09:28.060 It would like, take Quaaludes, because no one uses Quaaludes anymore.

00:09:31.380 It's not even a thing.

00:09:32.320 I know, it sounds like Ludes.

00:09:33.200 You should ask Jeffy in here, because he'd be able to.

00:09:35.260 It's like 1960s or 70s.

00:09:36.640 But his point, this was his point.

00:09:38.340 The 60s and 70s, Quaaludes were like wine.

00:09:40.800 Mm-hmm.

00:09:41.180 Or, you know, again, I'm not, again, I don't agree with his point.

00:09:43.780 But his point is like, basically, I bought a case of beer to drink with a woman.

00:09:49.640 And then, in my hopes, I was going to sleep with her.

00:09:51.760 That was kind of what he was, his point was in these moments.

00:09:54.700 Of course, Quaaludes now are much more associated with drugging of women. 0.97

00:09:58.720 And that is, by the way, their accusation.

00:10:00.780 That he was slipping the Quaaludes into drinks or whatever.

00:10:04.000 They would drink them and would not, they would fall asleep.

00:10:07.440 And then he would have his way with them.

00:10:09.680 He completely denies that.

00:10:11.480 We don't know the truth here.

00:10:13.080 There's so many accusations.

00:10:14.540 It's amazing.

00:10:15.080 It's easy to believe that it is true.

00:10:17.700 However, they basically went to Bill Cosby and said,

00:10:23.420 Hey, we're not going to pursue any prosecution.

00:10:27.280 You will have immunity in this case.

00:10:28.940 In exchange for that, you have to abandon your Fifth Amendment right

00:10:32.840 to be able to not answer these questions.

00:10:35.440 Your constitutional right's gone because you cannot be convicted.

00:10:39.200 So you have to answer these questions.

00:10:40.900 And so they used that against him in the criminal trial?

00:10:43.300 Yeah, they brought all of the information they got from the civil trial

00:10:46.760 and said, okay, now you can be convicted and we can use this information.

00:10:51.500 I mean, that is completely insane.

00:10:55.280 There's not a lot of people are going to be sympathetic, though.

00:10:57.580 And that's true.

00:10:58.320 He clearly did something.

00:11:00.720 Yes.

00:11:01.060 In the eyes of the American people, he did something wrong.

00:11:03.200 And I think in a way. 1.00

00:11:04.320 He's a rapist. 0.97

00:11:05.160 This is a positive development for our legal system because we have decided as a country 0.97

00:11:13.400 to start doing justice via social media, via documentary.

00:11:19.680 You know, like they came out with a documentary against this person.

00:11:22.060 We now know they're evil and they never get to do anything in society again.

00:11:24.620 And when we have an actual legal system that's supposed to go through this stuff and just

00:11:31.420 because like it seems like people were like, well, Bill Cosby, we all think he's bad.

00:11:38.780 He's really bad.

00:11:39.560 In fact, it looks like he did some really, really bad stuff and we don't like him.

00:11:43.000 And this is different than a normal person because we really don't like him.

00:11:49.280 And he made us like him before.

00:11:51.340 And so now we don't.

00:11:52.760 So it's even worse.

00:11:54.440 Yeah, we feel burned by that.

00:11:55.220 So we're just going to, you know, the whole legal system.

00:11:58.440 What if we don't do that for now and just instead focus on the fact that we really don't like him?

00:12:03.580 Yeah.

00:12:03.940 You know, like what if we overturn all these rules and laws because Bill Cosby's really bad?

00:12:09.080 And look at all these tweets.

00:12:11.660 Have you seen the Hannibal comedy session on it?

00:12:15.320 It's really funny.

00:12:16.620 People look at all the views on YouTube.

00:12:18.880 Maybe he should be convicted.

00:12:20.900 That's not justice.

00:12:22.600 It's not the way this system works.

00:12:25.400 And even when it benefits the worst people among us, those rules still get to be applied.

00:12:33.880 And the other interesting aspect of this, he was admitting to all of that stuff

00:12:37.660 with his wife in tow, with his wife hearing it all.

00:12:42.180 And supporting him.

00:12:43.040 We're sticking with him.

00:12:43.900 And supporting him the whole time.

00:12:45.560 She's still with him.

00:12:46.840 Yeah, still with him.

00:12:48.020 What kind of weird arrangement did they have?

00:12:50.640 I don't know.

00:12:51.500 Wow, that's something.

00:12:52.960 There was never a point where he was like, I didn't cheat on my wife.

00:12:56.100 What are you talking about?

00:12:56.640 Right, no.

00:12:56.880 I mean, there may have been a point, but that point is long past.

00:12:59.280 Not lately.

00:13:00.340 Yeah, not during the case and not during the trial and not during any interviews did he

00:13:07.040 ever say.

00:13:07.820 And she sat there right by him a few times in interviews and they talked about this stuff.

00:13:13.560 And they really amazing.

00:13:14.900 And it's one of those things.

00:13:15.960 There's a million accusations.

00:13:17.240 It was a known secret in Hollywood for a long time.

00:13:21.900 There are people who, you know, I was talking to somebody who went to Temple recently and

00:13:26.280 he was like, you know, everybody, everybody, it was like a known secret around there.

00:13:29.460 Like he would always be down like having his arms around the young girls.

00:13:34.080 It was just a thing, you know.

00:13:36.680 And, but that's neither here nor there when you're talking about putting someone in prison.

00:13:41.680 Like you can have all the beliefs you want about somebody, but you can't, you can't throw

00:13:46.900 them in prison.

00:13:47.380 And I do feel like there's this thing that's happening in our society right now where we,

00:13:53.780 if enough social media pressure exists, it's just okay to break the rules to punish that

00:14:01.120 person.

00:14:02.060 It's just okay.

00:14:02.980 You know, sure.

00:14:03.840 You might have like, you might have the right to be, to, to not be in prison, but we, we

00:14:10.260 don't like you.

00:14:11.920 It does seem to be almost the long and the short of it.

00:14:14.660 Like there's a lot of accusations against you.

00:14:16.900 We have no evidence to put you in prison. 0.96

00:14:18.940 However, you should go to prison because look at all these freaking retweets. 0.97

00:14:24.420 Yeah. 0.98

00:14:25.040 That's not America going to the first amendment, Pat.

00:14:29.420 What it's, everyone always says it.

00:14:31.300 The speech, the first amendment protects is the speech people hate because they, it's not

00:14:35.460 the, the, everybody who says nice things to each other.

00:14:38.160 No one's trying to censor hallmark greeting cards.

00:14:41.140 It's the stuff that you don't want to hear.

00:14:42.560 It's the stuff that's difficult to hear.

00:14:44.080 That's what it's there to protect.

00:14:46.200 It's supposed to be there to protect the worst people in society.

00:14:49.800 And I think that may very well be the case here, but the fact that that still stands

00:14:54.740 in the Pennsylvania Supreme court, because they're not going to want to, they're not

00:14:58.520 going to have fun at, at dinner parties here for a while after this one.

00:15:01.580 That's for sure.

00:15:02.520 People are not going to like it.

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00:15:20.220 We're talking about Britney Spears.

00:15:23.660 Bill Cosby situation too, which is incredible.

00:15:26.780 He's now a free man.

00:15:28.180 Conviction overturned.

00:15:29.700 Can't be tried again.

00:15:30.820 Uh, so he's, he's free now for the rest of his life.

00:15:35.300 Well, unless he rapes again or does something illegal again and gets caught for it.

00:15:40.320 But Britney Spears, uh, lost her bid to get out of her conservative conservatorship with

00:15:45.620 her, uh, father yesterday.

00:15:48.100 And it just seems, uh, bizarre to me that a 39 year old woman can't run her own life if 0.75

00:15:55.100 she's not a danger to herself or others.

00:15:57.280 And, you know, we were talking during the break, maybe she is, and we just haven't heard.

00:16:01.620 Maybe we just don't know all the facts.

00:16:03.260 That is the one thing that should cause a little bit of hesitation with this, because

00:16:07.040 if it is, if the situation is as it's been presented in the media, it's absolute injustice,

00:16:14.380 right?

00:16:15.040 If she's just like, maybe she's got some issues.

00:16:17.380 It's un-American. 0.82

00:16:17.620 But so many un-American things are happening right now.

00:16:20.160 It's like, oh, okay.

00:16:20.940 Well, here's another one.

00:16:22.120 I will say very well may be exactly what we think it is on the surface.

00:16:26.520 Maybe it is completely un-American and completely out of control. 1.00

00:16:30.040 It's, it's very possible.

00:16:31.780 That's just the truth.

00:16:32.520 I mean, we have a background of information on this, right?

00:16:36.520 Where the, the parent of a child star wants to take in their millions and is dedicated

00:16:44.080 to basically ruining their life in that pursuit.

00:16:46.720 Yeah.

00:16:47.160 We certainly have plenty of evidence on that from other cases.

00:16:50.660 The only thing I would, I would hesitate, and I don't know the laws in California per se,

00:16:55.640 but I will say, you know, having to go through, you know, some stuff recently, uh, regards

00:17:02.320 to people, you know, uh, with mental health issues and, and seeing people try to handle

00:17:07.160 those issues, uh, it is, it's not like you walk in to a courtroom and say, I'd like a

00:17:13.860 conservatorship over that person.

00:17:15.740 Can I have one?

00:17:16.420 And they're like, oh yeah, sure.

00:17:17.500 Here, here's the paperwork.

00:17:18.480 Like, this is like, it's not easy.

00:17:22.000 It's hard to get, to get a conservatorship.

00:17:24.100 And so the question is like, people are like, well, I can't believe that her dad would say

00:17:28.520 she's forced to take an IUD and she, she's every one of her dance moves is, it goes through 1.00

00:17:34.200 her dad.

00:17:35.420 Stop for a second and think, what if, what if he didn't do that?

00:17:39.920 Just what if everything she said was completely made up?

00:17:45.440 What if every one of her claims exists in her mind as reality, but is not reality?

00:17:55.620 That's what mental, severe mental health looks like.

00:17:59.720 Yeah.

00:17:59.960 And so we don't know, for example, you know, I'm just this, I don't have information on

00:18:04.540 this, but just throwing this out there.

00:18:06.060 Like, did Britney Spears try to commit suicide eight times?

00:18:10.340 I don't know.

00:18:12.360 I'm not saying that, the court does know it though.

00:18:15.860 And so they might be dealing with a completely different set of information.

00:18:19.400 Very true.

00:18:19.820 And like, I will say some of the claims, you know, that she was making, I read her testimony

00:18:25.020 where she made all these claims.

00:18:27.000 And they sounded familiar from other people I've heard going through these situations.

00:18:35.300 Like people who have gone through and said, they, you know, there's like a new accusation

00:18:40.100 every day.

00:18:41.180 There's a new sort of like, uh, thing you've never heard of some, and they're very often

00:18:48.620 crazy scenarios that are shocking to hear.

00:18:53.320 But when you investigate them with someone dealing with severe mental health issues, a

00:18:59.480 lot of times what you find out is they just made it up, you know?

00:19:04.680 I mean, as crazy as it sounds, and it may not be Britney Spears.

00:19:08.400 I'm not defending the dad.

00:19:09.440 I don't know enough about the situation.

00:19:10.960 I just think that we, when we look at it, we have to understand that these situations

00:19:14.600 a lot of times are a lot more complicated.

00:19:16.300 Like I've seen, you know, cases where, you know, something will happen, a dramatic event

00:19:21.700 will happen to a family member.

00:19:23.840 And, you know, someone dealing with mental health issues will hear about that event and

00:19:29.040 then adopt it into their own life.

00:19:31.600 They'll all of a sudden start telling people it happened to them instead of the other family

00:19:35.620 member.

00:19:36.580 Because it's just like the brain is just, you know, it's just not working.

00:19:41.400 It's just not working anymore.

00:19:43.260 And it's really sad and hard to deal with.

00:19:45.220 And if you think about yourself as a dad, if your daughter is going through something

00:19:49.120 like this, you're going to do what you can to try to protect them.

00:19:52.900 Now, given that it's Hollywood, given that we're millions of dollars on the line, given

00:19:59.740 that she is seemingly coherent enough to come out and speak and do some basic things, it does

00:20:06.340 appear that change should be made in some way.

00:20:09.640 But I would just, you know, you gotta, there's a reason I think you need to at least have

00:20:14.700 hesitation to believe like this is the ultimate injustice open and shut case.

00:20:20.460 The court knows a lot more about this than any of us do.

00:20:23.960 And if she really has been a danger to herself, or if she's a, you know, if she's a person

00:20:30.500 who is incapable of sort of like landing in reality and that, you know, every time she

00:20:37.460 has a dealing with someone else, she can't keep track of what is real and what is not.

00:20:45.080 That's a basic thing we all need to have.

00:20:47.940 At times it feels like when you listen to the media, you listen to the government, doesn't

00:20:52.300 feel like anybody has it anymore, but like you need to be able to say, Hey, last week

00:20:57.120 I went to Arby's and got a roast beef sandwich and a curly fries.

00:21:02.660 Like all of us, when we would say that we would know we were at that Arby's.

00:21:07.900 What if you weren't at the Arby's?

00:21:10.040 What if you never went and got the curly fries?

00:21:12.440 A lot of, there are people who go through severe mental illness where they can't decipher

00:21:17.340 the difference between what is real and what is not.

00:21:19.740 And to get a conservatorship over a celebrity with millions of dollars of legal backing behind

00:21:28.380 them.

00:21:29.120 And millions of supporters.

00:21:30.560 Yeah.

00:21:30.780 That is very young to get a conservatorship at all.

00:21:35.100 I would argue at least from my understanding of it, it is incredibly difficult to do.

00:21:41.440 And when you look back to when you remember what was going on in 2008 with her.

00:21:46.520 Yeah.

00:21:46.720 She was going through some things.

00:21:48.520 Very public meltdown.

00:21:49.540 Yeah.

00:21:49.860 She had some meltdowns and she shaved her head and stuff.

00:21:52.940 But, I mean, you can shave your head if you want to.

00:21:55.500 If that's all it is.

00:21:56.300 But she melted down.

00:21:57.620 Yeah.

00:21:57.740 And I think there were bigger issues than shaving her head. 0.99

00:22:00.580 Right.

00:22:00.800 And so, that's how the conservatorship started in the first place.

00:22:06.300 So, there were things going on.

00:22:08.080 She was doing weird things.

00:22:09.260 She was saying weird things.

00:22:12.020 She was acting erratically.

00:22:15.100 And that's how she lost control of her financial life. 0.64

00:22:18.940 Yes.

00:22:19.240 And the legal system should err on the side of freedom.

00:22:23.340 Right.

00:22:23.660 So, if she's even close to being able to deal with anything in her life, even if she is a 0.97

00:22:29.260 disaster, even if she's a person who's going to go out and take the second she's free,

00:22:34.840 go to a casino with all of her money and bet it all and lose it all, even that she should

00:22:40.000 still be free.

00:22:41.220 Like, she should be able to do what she wants to do.

00:22:43.840 But, you know, it may be more significant than that.

00:22:48.380 And we should remember that everything that she said in her hearing should not be taken as truth.

00:22:54.040 You know?

00:22:54.540 It's true.

00:22:55.380 You know, it is really important that if she's at all capable of handling her life, she should

00:23:02.160 be able to handle her life.

00:23:03.880 And even if she's incapable of it, you know?

00:23:06.040 Even if there's a lot of people who, I mean, there's people I know who are, you know, in this

00:23:11.620 building who work here.

00:23:12.640 I mean, Jeffy should not be allowed to handle his life.

00:23:14.980 That's a good point.

00:23:15.320 How many times have we argued that he should not be able to be around his children?

00:23:18.960 Many times.

00:23:19.800 Us?

00:23:20.480 You're right.

00:23:21.060 Should not be allowed in the building.

00:23:22.360 Right.

00:23:23.060 Right.

00:23:23.340 You know?

00:23:23.880 But, I mean, no one's going to want a conservatorship for Jeffy.

00:23:27.680 Nobody's going to want that.

00:23:28.280 Nobody wants to try to untangle that mess.

00:23:30.240 No.

00:23:30.560 No.

00:23:31.180 No.

00:23:31.520 No, thank you.

00:23:32.760 But.

00:23:33.580 Not even Britney's dad could intervene and make that one work out okay.

00:23:37.720 It's like the reverse bit, Britney.

00:23:39.060 You get the conservatorship and suddenly you owe millions of dollars.

00:23:42.440 And you're like, how did this happen?

00:23:45.560 But, you know, so the legal system should always err on freedom.

00:23:50.360 So, likely, probably this should change.

00:23:54.160 But there is, there should be at least consideration to the alternative.

00:23:58.800 Yeah, I guess so.

00:24:02.080 Because it did seem like the judge was pretty solid in his ruling and pretty definitive that this needed to continue.

00:24:12.560 And then.

00:24:13.920 But somebody else joined in the, she wanted some institution, some financial institution to be part of it.

00:24:20.780 And so, now he's got to share that conservatorship with somebody else.

00:24:25.460 So, maybe that'll make her life better.

00:24:27.500 I don't know.

00:24:28.540 But it's going to continue for an indefinite amount of time.

00:24:32.580 I don't know how many times you can revisit that and try to over, overcome the conservatorship.

00:24:40.220 Conservatorship.

00:24:41.440 I don't know how many times you can revisit that.

00:24:44.300 So.

00:24:44.980 I don't know either.

00:24:46.380 And, you know, look, there, if it's, that's the other thing that you could argue here is that, let's just say it was a really bad situation.

00:24:54.580 Most people probably are unable to do what she's done here.

00:24:59.360 Right?

00:24:59.620 You can't, it's hard to come up with the legal, you don't have the resources to mount a legal challenge against it.

00:25:05.200 You also don't have the public support to go through something like that.

00:25:09.320 Nobody cares.

00:25:10.000 Right?

00:25:10.240 You just, you're just wasting away in conservatorship land.

00:25:16.480 But she has the resources to be able to challenge it in ways that other people wouldn't.

00:25:24.120 Right?

00:25:24.220 So maybe, you know, in the, in this world where it actually was a good decision to put her in a conservatorship, if you accept that for a second, most people wouldn't be able to get out of it where she might be able to get out of it because she has those resources.

00:25:37.160 So are the resources helping overturn a situation that was appropriate is the other way to look at it.

00:25:43.640 Right.

00:25:43.840 And again, I don't, I don't know, but it is one of those situations.

00:25:46.740 It does feel like in a similar way with the Cosby thing where social media documentaries, we do justice by documentary.

00:25:56.040 Now, the New York Times released a documentary that said Brittany had really unfair treatment of her when she was younger. 0.99

00:26:01.420 And there's some convincing evidence to that.

00:26:03.980 So we now kind of, everyone's on that side of things.

00:26:08.360 And we now kind of look at this and say, all right, well, that's the way it is.

00:26:12.920 Maybe it may not be the way it is.

00:26:15.080 Yeah.

00:26:15.680 Might, it might not.

00:26:16.800 Yeah.

00:26:17.200 888-727-BECK.

00:26:18.880 It's Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck Program.

00:26:25.800 This is the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:26:28.300 We're filling in for Glenn here for a few days as he's on vacation far away from here.

00:26:45.580 And he's missing out on some, some big things.

00:26:49.240 Like we were going to have a January 6th commission after all.

00:26:53.180 Yay! 0.99

00:26:54.040 Aren't you excited?

00:26:56.700 Yay! 0.99

00:26:57.100 Yay! 0.99

00:26:57.960 Yeah.

00:26:58.580 Yeah, that'll be great, won't it?

00:27:00.300 Yeah, it's going to be really exciting.

00:27:02.000 Now, this one's done by the Democrats in Congress.

00:27:04.640 So it's not this, they were initially going for this special commission, a bipartisan variety.

00:27:09.840 That's not going to happen.

00:27:11.660 Republicans did not get on board with that.

00:27:14.160 And for good reason.

00:27:14.920 And that obviously was not an honest attempt to get the information needed.

00:27:21.020 I am of the thought that there is information we can get from a commission looking into this if it was honest.

00:27:29.580 This one isn't going to be honest, but I would like to know.

00:27:32.200 There's certainly questions like why the hell was the security so bad at the Capitol?

00:27:38.220 Why was this possible?

00:27:39.240 I mean, think about this for a second.

00:27:41.260 Yeah, this was a, you know, there was a mob, a lot of people.

00:27:43.960 There were some people who were pretty bad in the mob.

00:27:46.040 A lot of people who were just, you know, there for the speech and didn't do much of anything.

00:27:50.680 What if it was a foreign group of terrorists that decided to do this?

00:27:57.320 What if, remember, this is an announced rally down the street where they knew it was a contentious time.

00:28:04.540 They knew that a lot of these people obviously believe what was going on in the Capitol was very bad.

00:28:10.240 And they didn't prepare for it really at all.

00:28:13.340 What would happen if like a foreign terrorist group did try to go in and kill a bunch of our representatives?

00:28:18.820 I don't know.

00:28:20.340 Like, that's the type of.

00:28:21.300 That seems like a bad thing.

00:28:22.020 Right.

00:28:22.120 A really bad thing.

00:28:23.060 And like, if we had an honest government and people who actually cared about the outcomes in these matters,

00:28:28.860 you know, there would be reason to really look into this and get a report.

00:28:32.440 Why wasn't the National Guard out there in less than, what was it, four hours?

00:28:36.980 Why did that take four hours?

00:28:38.420 That's insanity.

00:28:40.700 So there are reasons to look at this.

00:28:42.720 It's just not going to happen with a commission like this.

00:28:44.540 I mean, you look at the New York Times put out a documentary yesterday.

00:28:48.820 It was about 40 minutes on January 6th.

00:28:53.200 And, of course, obviously, you know the Times is coming.

00:28:56.180 You know the story they're telling.

00:28:57.440 I don't need to tell you in advance what story they're telling.

00:29:00.320 It was the worst event in American history.

00:29:02.220 Worst event in American history.

00:29:04.240 Now, so they don't spend any time on the people who were not violent.

00:29:08.940 There was, you know, I don't know how many people were at that particular rally, but thousands and thousands and thousands of people.

00:29:16.020 We've talked to many of them who were there and didn't even know any of this occurred.

00:29:19.280 There weren't any nonviolent people there, were there?

00:29:21.440 Yeah, shockingly, there was.

00:29:22.660 You know, judging by all the piles of dead bodies, I wouldn't think there was a single nonviolent person there.

00:29:27.800 I know.

00:29:28.160 It's shocking.

00:29:29.160 But a lot of people, like, went to the Trump speech and went back to their cars.

00:29:32.940 Yeah.

00:29:33.100 Like, there's a lot of that, and they, of course, don't show any of that.

00:29:35.860 And there are people who went to the Capitol and didn't go into the building.

00:29:38.980 There were also people who went to the Capitol, did go in the building, but didn't break anything or steal anything or hurt anybody.

00:29:45.180 Now, we do, because all of that, what you just said is true, we do, at times, forget that there was a lot.

00:29:50.780 I mean, there were a lot of people.

00:29:52.300 There were some bad things that happened.

00:29:53.620 Who did do bad things.

00:29:54.520 Yeah.

00:29:54.800 It was an embarrassment.

00:29:56.080 Yeah.

00:29:56.260 I mean, 150 police officers were injured.

00:29:59.560 And, like, they have legit, the Times does this thing very well.

00:30:05.980 If you go back and look at, for example, they did the exact same thing for the Las Vegas shooting.

00:30:12.600 And it's really a legitimately incredible thing to watch.

00:30:16.280 They have a zillion videos.

00:30:18.120 They kind of place them on a map so you know exactly where they happened.

00:30:21.480 Like, this person was driving by this building.

00:30:23.820 You hear the shots going over their head.

00:30:25.760 You get views.

00:30:26.380 I mean, really, when they do, like, actual journalism, you can get some value out of the New York Times occasionally.

00:30:33.700 This one is obviously much more partisan than the Las Vegas shooting was.

00:30:37.400 But they do have a lot of video.

00:30:39.320 And there are legitimately bad people, you know, bashing police officers over the head with stuff.

00:30:45.540 That doesn't mean that they died. 0.99

00:30:46.840 But still, like, I'm never, I don't give a crap about partisan nonsense when it comes to, if you're a person that hits a police officer over the head with something, screw you. 0.99

00:31:00.180 Yeah, you need to be, you need to be punished. 0.99

00:31:02.260 Yeah, I've had officers in my family.

00:31:04.520 These people risk their lives for us every day.

00:31:06.760 The same way that I don't care what you think about the George Floyd case, don't throw a brick at a police officer. 0.89

00:31:16.140 I will stand by that till the day I freaking die.

00:31:19.300 The same thing with January 6th. 1.00

00:31:21.380 If you had a Trump flagpole and were bashing police officers over the head with it, screw you. 0.89

00:31:27.900 Honestly, I don't, I don't, it was not nothing. 0.82

00:31:33.920 That being said, what are they going to find in this report?

00:31:37.840 What are they going to do here?

00:31:40.740 You know, it's, was it an insurrection, some calculated attempt to take, to actually take over the government?

00:31:49.260 Were there, they have messages and they have a lot of people saying those types of things.

00:31:55.020 So it was not no one in the crowd.

00:31:57.180 It was not zero people in the crowd who were thinking that way.

00:32:00.020 There were some, but it was an overwhelming minority of, and almost all these people were unarmed.

00:32:06.440 How the hell did they think they were going to actually take control of the government?

00:32:09.320 Right?

00:32:09.620 Like it was a riot.

00:32:11.180 The right way to say this is it was a riot.

00:32:14.460 It was unacceptable, but it was not what the Democrats are saying it was.

00:32:19.700 They are trying to make every grandmother who's in 300 miles of this thing and voted for Donald Trump into a criminal. 0.88

00:32:25.120 It's insane.

00:32:26.000 And while the, the, the, the events of the day might lead you to say, hey, maybe we should be prepared for this next time.

00:32:38.580 And maybe we should take an honest view and look at how we can do that.

00:32:43.300 Because obviously the way we're doing it now does not work.

00:32:47.580 Mm-hmm.

00:32:48.120 That would be something that a commission might, a serious country with serious people and a serious government might look into and say, hey, here's, here are the steps we should take next time.

00:33:00.380 Instead, they're just going to make this into a way to try to make January 6th into a date you remember like 9-11.

00:33:07.640 Right?

00:33:08.360 It was the worst thing that had ever happened to us.

00:33:10.460 And despite the fact that the, the business of the government continued on the same day, also January 6th, kind of indicating maybe it wasn't, you know, Pearl Harbor or 9-11.

00:33:25.960 It was a bad day, but it was not what they're trying to make it out to be.

00:33:31.020 They want to make that out to be the only thing that's happened.

00:33:33.840 And I would be, I think there was a really legitimate request by Republicans who said, look, we'll do your bipartisan commission.

00:33:40.960 It's great, but we're going to do it.

00:33:43.020 And we're also going to look at the violence that happened over the summer when billions of dollars of damage were done, when way more people were killed, far more death occurred in those riots than the one that happened on January 6th.

00:33:58.860 The far bigger loss of property.

00:34:00.360 Yeah.

00:34:00.920 Much more damage.

00:34:02.340 Yeah.

00:34:02.640 To property.

00:34:03.240 People died all over the place.

00:34:05.220 And there were federal buildings that were attacked.

00:34:08.600 It was government stuff as well as just property as they like try to demean, you know, of someone's life's work in their local business.

00:34:16.080 Huge swaps of American cities actually taken over by mobs.

00:34:20.220 Yeah.

00:34:20.580 By mobs.

00:34:21.040 And they act as if that should be investigated too.

00:34:23.420 I would like to know what is the truth there?

00:34:26.280 Yeah.

00:34:26.600 What, you know, what groups, where did they get the money for?

00:34:29.280 Totally legitimate.

00:34:29.860 What they were doing.

00:34:31.080 How about the money that was raised by, you know, one of the people serving in the administration

00:34:36.200 who was tweeting out links to bail the criminals out of jail.

00:34:41.280 Huh?

00:34:42.140 Why was that?

00:34:43.180 Who would do that?

00:34:44.240 How was that set up?

00:34:45.580 Kamala Harris.

00:34:45.740 Who would set up?

00:34:47.160 Kamala Harris.

00:34:47.940 Who would do that?

00:34:49.060 Not Kamala Harris.

00:34:50.220 Kamala Harris.

00:34:51.140 What?

00:34:51.540 Why would you say Kamala Harris?

00:34:53.540 Oh, she's laughing.

00:34:54.460 I can't believe it.

00:34:55.540 Yeah.

00:34:55.680 I would like to know that.

00:34:56.480 I think that's part of this, right?

00:34:57.560 Yeah.

00:34:57.740 It's part of political violence in the same, in the same time frame.

00:35:01.580 Totally reasonable.

00:35:02.640 And it's.

00:35:03.020 To look into that.

00:35:03.560 Yeah.

00:35:03.700 And it's, instead it's, it's, they're, they're.

00:35:06.460 Oh, how dare you?

00:35:07.280 Yeah.

00:35:08.000 They're, they're seen as totally different events.

00:35:09.820 And you know what the real truth of this is?

00:35:11.500 At least in, in large extent, I think.

00:35:15.220 The truth of the reason why they weren't prepared for January 6th is because they had

00:35:21.360 seen 9 billion conservative-leaning rallies not go awry.

00:35:27.480 And they probably thought.

00:35:29.400 Yeah.

00:35:29.740 You know what?

00:35:30.700 Yep.

00:35:30.960 There's always people who are saying stuff like this.

00:35:33.760 There's, you can always find somebody online who says, we need to take, that's our house.

00:35:37.100 Let's take back our house.

00:35:38.560 All right.

00:35:39.060 We've seen this a zillion times.

00:35:40.200 The bottom line is these rallies have occurred all over the country for a really long time.

00:35:44.920 And there's never been a problem.

00:35:46.260 And there's never been a problem like this.

00:35:47.600 So they probably thought they were going to be fine.

00:35:50.820 And in reality, you can't sit.

00:35:53.940 You have to be able to be prepared for these situations in the off chance they do occur.

00:35:57.780 But when the left marches, these things go awry all the time.

00:36:02.400 And so you need to prepare for everybody like you prepare for the left, I guess.

00:36:07.560 Yeah.

00:36:08.020 But there's no answers in a commission like this.

00:36:11.120 There's just not going to be any.

00:36:12.580 And, you know, they put Liz Cheney is going to be on the commission. 1.00

00:36:15.980 She's accepted the invitation from Pelosi.

00:36:19.200 I'm not going to win her any friends in the Republican Party, obviously.

00:36:21.820 They're going to they're saying they're going to strip her commission committee assignments over it. 0.90

00:36:28.220 So, I mean, they're going to claim it's a bipartisan thing because Liz Cheney is on there. 0.89

00:36:32.960 And obviously, Liz Cheney has a has her mind made up on this one.

00:36:35.980 And that's fine.

00:36:36.620 She has a right to her opinion.

00:36:37.740 But, you know, we can't act as if this is some bipartisan fair commission.

00:36:41.880 It's not going to be.

00:36:42.980 It's just going to be a way to make January 6th into the only thing you're supposed to think about and the only thing you're supposed to vote on and the only thing that's supposed to influence you.

00:36:52.280 And obviously, that's not the right way to think about our country right now.

00:36:55.420 We've got a lot of problems going on and ongoing Trump related riots at the Capitol are not one of them.

00:37:01.740 That's not something that's just not going on.

00:37:06.160 You know, that was a one off event, I think, in our history.

00:37:11.060 Well, and they acted like it was going to happen again and again and again.

00:37:14.580 What was the next date that there was supposed to be?

00:37:17.340 Was it March 4th?

00:37:18.380 Well, you had January 20th.

00:37:19.400 You had the actual inauguration.

00:37:21.080 You had a one date in March.

00:37:21.940 That's right.

00:37:22.800 Then 4th or something, 6th or whatever.

00:37:25.620 And nothing ever happened.

00:37:27.040 And I don't think anything was ever being planned because it never came off.

00:37:31.820 You know, a lot of this comes back to the way you get to retroactively look at things like social media.

00:37:37.680 You know, something goes awry.

00:37:38.900 Yeah, you can go back and look at people who were talking tough.

00:37:41.540 Everybody talks tough online.

00:37:43.480 I'm tired of it, but that's what everybody does.

00:37:45.800 Yeah.

00:37:46.100 You know, everybody's saying all these things and everybody says they're going to, you know, look at the left.

00:37:51.360 You tell me you can't.

00:37:52.660 Every time we look, we're able to find hundreds of people who say they're going to go burn down buildings and take over the government and, you know, assassinate public figures.

00:38:01.580 It's all over the Internet.

00:38:03.240 So, after something happens, you can retroactively go back and prove any case you want.

00:38:08.940 But in reality, these things are always out there in a society that values free speech.

00:38:14.420 And all you can do is try to prepare yourself in case something bad does happen.

00:38:20.360 You know, yes, you can always.

00:38:23.760 I mean, think about if if you went back to the days of like the 90s and there was real social media back then.

00:38:31.420 Like, what would Timothy McVeigh have on his Facebook page?

00:38:35.480 You'd be able to go back and say, this guy was saying this stuff on his Facebook page over and over again.

00:38:41.200 And, you know, we're in a different era.

00:38:43.060 You can always go back and find people who say bad things.

00:38:46.580 You know, and look, the people who did those things, particularly the officers, should be.

00:38:53.800 You should go after them.

00:38:55.080 I have no problem with throwing the book at those people.

00:38:58.040 But, you know, what they're trying to do with this event is just it's it's kind of like left wing fan fiction.

00:39:05.320 You know, they're just trying to make this into this thing that it isn't.

00:39:09.320 It was it was it was a it was a day that we should know and we should make sure that people who are responsible for those bad things are prosecuted for them.

00:39:19.260 But like, let's be honest about it for a second here.

00:39:22.180 And there's no ability to do that in the media.

00:39:24.820 No.

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