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Laura Logan is the Chief Foreign Correspondent for CBS News in Washington, D.C., covering the border with Mexico. She covers the border, the border patrol, the immigration crisis, and the human trafficking crisis along the southern border. She is also the co-founder of a group called Courage in Courage, a group dedicated to fighting human trafficking, human trafficking and human trafficking.
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you're listening to the best of the glenn beck program
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this woman is from south africa she worked for reuters over in south africa
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she was in 2002 she was on the battlefields all around the world as we were engaging in war
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she was part of face the nation and the cbs morning news
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and then in 2006 she became the chief foreign correspondent for cbs news
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but something has changed in her and maybe it's just her freedom
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she is able to say the things that nobody seems to be saying anywhere
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her name is laura logan and she joins us in one minute
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you're listening to the best of the glenn beck program
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journalist and a profile in courage laura logan joins us now
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laura nice to nice to meet you and nice to have you on the program
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um let's let's get right into what you're doing recently
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and then i'd like to kind of open it up to uh more broad on uh on the media
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and what to expect and what we can what we can do to change things
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but you've been down on our border uh and strangely you have a different report
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than what the mainstream media is giving everyone
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well you know to be honest i don't watch uh what the mainstream media is giving everybody
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especially when i'm working right because my job is well i'm focused on doing my job
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yeah i'm not i'm not too worried about what other people are doing
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and a wise old correspondent told me many years ago
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that he you know every day he goes out and he does his best
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some days he's the best and some days uh he's not
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it's different because i know where i go um people all the time along the border
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in all different capacities keep saying nobody is telling our story
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nobody is is is talking about this nobody's telling
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the truth of you know it's not that people are lying about the border
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it's not that there's it's just that there's more than one story
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the only story is not simply a story of you know of um of poor people who want to move
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to the united states to improve their lives that is one part of the story and it's a very important
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part of the story and i can honestly tell you i've had moments where
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you know i've been crying into my um my basically my
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pretty uh crappy bed in my pretty crappy hotel at night
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and i've uh just about wanted to cry thinking about the people who
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don't um don't even know you know the people i've seen with their children and all the rest
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said i mean i've got a big heart and that breaks my heart but it's only one part of the story
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so you know my job as a reporter has always been to understand the full context and cover
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as much of the story as i can and that's all i'm trying to do
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so there are there are the the sins of omission and i think that's what people are committing by
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saying that this is the only part of the story and you're right i've been down at the border
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myself and you know we raised we raised money to bring you know food and comfort down to some of
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the children that were there in in uh during the obama administration i tried to get the media to pay
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attention to the cages you're not allowed to talk about that i know i know i know but it doesn't
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happen and and it it shows this real bias and i i don't want to dwell on this one words for you
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i've got one words for you i have actually spoken to people down there right across law enforcement
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and border patrol who actually talk about when in a in a certain point in the obama administration
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when they no longer wanted to deal with the deporter in chief title and the problem of all
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the children that they had in detention basically in prison don't that some people like to so-called
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that cages um what did they do to actually border patrol agents then had orders where they would
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have to intercept people who they found coming over the border in certain parts and they would have
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to escort them back down to the border and send them back don't apprehend them don't create a statistic
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don't create a problem for us let's just push you over the border then and pretend that this is not
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happening that i can't say how widespread that was i can't say that it was everywhere but i can tell you
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that it did happen and more than once so what is it that you're that people are saying nobody's telling
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this story what are the important stories that we're not hearing well first and foremost um what
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what people just leave out of the narrative is that this is almost like a theater it's not it's a
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performance not for the people who are living it because they are they are like their pawns um it's a
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theater for the cartels yes they make an enormous amount of money out of all the people that cross
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because they take most of the smuggling fees they don't run the smuggling operations they're way too
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smart for that they have professional human smuggling operations human trafficking organizations that are
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global who do the smuggling for them but they pay most uh an enormous amount of what they earn they pay
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that to the cartels the cartels decide the mexican cartels decide who crosses where they cross when
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they cross and so if you imagine you're a pilot and you can see the whole border from the air um that's
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really how the cartels operate you know it's divided up into the three main cartels now the sinaloa cartel
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the gulf cartel and what used to be called the zetas that's now cartel del nostre del nostre but
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those are the three main cartels that control the traffic and the reason you have people coming
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in all these difficult places one of the reasons a big reason is that the cartels know if they split
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the resources of border patrol if um if you've got a group of five people a group of ten people and
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they all run in different directions how many agents does it now take to stop them you know so that's
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exactly what they're doing they're splitting the resources pilots have described to me for example
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in parts of the border seeing uh groups of anywhere between 50 and 200 crossing at exactly the state
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at the same time at the crossing points sort of you know 100 yards um from each other right so imagine
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in five different places separated by 100 yards you have hundreds of people so what does that do in
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one tiny little tiny little town on the border in uh texas on the rio grande valley they have they
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have border patrol facilities that are built to house a maximum of 116 people last weekend they had
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over 1100 over 1100 in one weekend and they have people every single day and that's just one weekend
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this has been going on for months and months and months so in these places where people get um you know
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uh people get told all the time texans for example texans are a bunch of racist rednecks right and
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texas don't care about people look they don't recognize the children of illegal immigrants born
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is going to look at all the evil things people in texas do they put illegal immigrants under bridges
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in terrible weather to suffer well literally you've got border patrol agents looking at at me with
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desperation saying we don't know where else to put people you've got um churches in el paso who the
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ngos have run out of capacity right the ngos that come from new york and other parts of the country
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that like to do interviews in the paper sometimes about everything they're doing down on the border
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except they've run out of capacity and um it's the local people in many of these places who are um
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trying to bear you know to help in some ways and the other you know there's another really important
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thing that that um gets left out of the narrative which um is that the large majority of border
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patrol agents are hispanic americans or mexican americans or whatever you want to call them
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they're not you know it's not just um these evil white men who are trying to um stop people coming
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into this this country it's not that at all in fact it's much more complex and in some of these towns
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the vast majority of the people who live there are hispanic american and um and and you know texas
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itself has a history that's very much wrapped up in mexico and the first president of texas was mexican
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and when you look at the history here these these um two people they you know i'm not painting a picture
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of nirvana there's always issues between people but it's very different to what people say it is from a
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distance it's the reality is is not much like that at all and i have i have um i have yet to meet
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anyone who wants these uh people to suffer or who is deliberately cruel to people and you know my
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experience is limited to my experience you know but um but i will tell you this when you say these
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people are pawns they are they're being i feel horrible for them because if in in in some cases
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not all cases but in many cases i think if i were on the other side of the border and i saw that
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america really didn't care about its borders and they were going to give away free citizenship and i
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could get my family there and my family doesn't we're living in a town that maybe has violence but
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doesn't have any real chance for my kids you're damn right i'd be over here i would absolutely do
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it because i would think that america didn't really care and they were offering citizenship so take that
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chance for my children to be able to have a better life that that they those people are being preyed on
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by all these different groups that have all different agendas including the drug cartels that are
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holding back some family members and saying look we're gonna sell you this and we'll bring them
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over you do us a favor we'll do you a favor and then we'll send your your relative over and i mean
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we're importing people and enslaving people to to some of these drug cartels oh no we're doing the bidding
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of the drug cartels yes whether wittingly or unwittingly that's happening um and i can tell you i can add to
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what you're saying glenn how about if you were watching or listening to commercials on the radio
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which tell you go to america you're going to get a house you're going to get land you're going to get
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a job you're going to get this or that and then add to that the fact that you know i mean one of um
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one of my most trusted most at the person that i respect most in the world my producer max mcclellan
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he went and did a story in a series of reports in honduras he was actually with his family when they
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said goodbye to their 15 year old daughter and sent her to a better life in america and you can
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imagine right i mean he's a dad he's got a daughter i have two daughters and a son i mean what could be
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more heartbreaking than that i mean it's it's really painful for me to even imagine being in that
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situation but they don't even know if their daughter is actually going to a real job in america there's so
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much sex trafficking and you imagine sending your 15 year old daughter into nobody does that unless
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they are absolutely desperate or they um have no other options right nobody nobody i mean the family
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you know the mother was sobbing the father was crying the daughter was crying you can imagine that's
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a very painful thing so but her chance she has a significant chance of being raped along the way
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when people come from latin america they get to the first stash house inside of mexico people get
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raped at the stash houses and then there's another stash house you know there's other stash houses all
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along the way but right on the um mexican side close to the border and then more stash houses when you
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cross the border and i've um you know i've been looking at doing stories on this we have reports of
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different uh people who get raped at every one of those locations along the way and then you know but
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we still we're still trying to find someone who has been through that to talk about it
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because these things are very difficult to cover and also because um because you know it's very easy
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to tear these um stories apart this is here i have one for you this is the only time in my career as a
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journalist a professional where i have uh looked at um at the statistics of rape and sexual abuse right
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trying to figure out okay how many how prevalent is this what exactly are the facts how what is the
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chance when you get on that journey that this is going to happen to you how bad is it truly right
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and in this case um this is one case where the media by and large says oh you can't prove that this is
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happening oh you know yes there was this msf medicine the ngo they did a big study on it and they found
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that you know at least 30 percent of uh of the women um making this journey get raped or sexually
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assaulted but what do you have um many journalists turning around and saying then well they took a
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sample of people um on their way to the us in mexico they didn't you know take everybody and they didn't
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take everybody from every different country and so you get 15 reasons why the msf statistic is not
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representative well you know isn't the standard the way we normally in the media treat rape and sexual
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assault figures is we always say it's the most underreported crime don't we doesn't that sound
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familiar and it's just a small i'm only making it's a small irony that i that i noticed when i was
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researching this story i thought wow all my professional life you know wherever i've been people have said
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that uh there's you know if that's the official figure you can bet it's much more than that yes
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now here you have people actually defending human traffickers defending cartels defending coyotes
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who rape people and saying well you know it's we we can't trust that so because it's not fully
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representative so laura i i want to i want to break for a minute uh literally one minute and then i want
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to come back and i want to ask you why why how how is that happening that that intelligent
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people are are taking sides of monsters and they don't see it that way back in one minute with
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lara logan uh you can follow her at lara logan.com lara logan.com the best of the glenn beck program
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john douglas the original mind hunter is uh on with us now hello john how are you sir
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very well glenn thanks for having me uh it's an honor to talk to you um i remember um what in some
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way what you went through when you first started talking to people because i remember my grandfather
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saying these guys are just talking to them they're going to make excuses i don't care what happened
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to them in their life they did the crime and that was the prevalent theory when you started
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interviewing these mass murderers correct uh at the fbi very very much what's happening on the uh
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series the mind hunter series on netflix um the question was why am i doing this what what are you
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doing uh you shouldn't be going into the prisons doing these interviews well at the time i was 32
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years old uh i came back uh to quantico after working seven years in the field i was a very
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young agent when i was recruited i just got out of the military at four years of military a couple
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advanced degrees and came back and was sitting back in the classroom now i had to audit the senior
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instruction instructors and these senior instructors just didn't have their facts right and and how do i
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know that because there were police officers in the classroom that were challenging the instructors
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and they say hey look you know i worked the manson case you got your facts all screwed up so here i am
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now 32 years old and i got to get up in front of these senior investigators from throughout the world and and
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fbi agents you know at some point and and what can i do to accelerate my learning so in the old days
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we had what we call road schools you go out and and maybe teaching in san diego then later on boise
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idaho you know let's go into these prisons i asked my partner i said let's go let's see if manson will
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talk to us let's see if um david berkowitz uh the son of sam or sir sir hand sir hand and um thought
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it was a crazy idea but went into the the uh prisons just unannounced which was kind of good when you're
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an agent you just show your creds you can go in and and you don't have to tell anybody why you want to
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speak to these people and to our surprise they were very very uh very very forthcoming very very uh
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interested in speaking with me but we made mistakes early on in the uh when we first started doing
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the interviews uh would go in there with notes uh go in there with a tape recorder and that was a
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eternal uh a a turn off for them uh why because they uh they're paranoid individuals and they should
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be paranoid they're incarcerated with a lot of other violent offenders they don't trust corrections
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they're certainly not going to trust uh the fbi so what i began to do as we went along and we
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teamed up with dr am burgess boston college and we developed a computerized instrument for interviews
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uh which i would never fill out uh during the interview process would be before and after the uh
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you know the interview and then um started to uh you know document this you know this material and
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and began to get some really fantastic information uh from them regarding victim selection pre-offense
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behavior post-offense behavior then i started thinking what can i do creatively creatively to
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create a situation where i may cause david berkowitz for example uh to go to the grave site of his uh
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victims or to inject himself into the police investigation well the bureau stood afar they were they were
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really against this you know what the hell are you doing you know this kind of you know this kind of
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work and and they were really the last ones to embrace my own agency they were waiting for me i
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think to screw up and then they'd send me to uh butte montana you know wrestling you know cases
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right something like that so so you know they were the last ones uh you know to embrace it and then
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when i got really some national some international publicity uh and i was doing so many cases but then
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when i hit the atlanta the atlanta child killings was very controversial i was censured uh by the
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bureau uh when i i publicly said the killer would be a a a black offender would not be white in that
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particular case historically we had a lot of white serial killers leading up to uh to that time and um
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when they finally they uh arrested wayne b williams in the case then i got involved in cross-examination
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strategies coaching the prosecutor and how to how to um go after him on the stand and again i was
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very very very very young but now as this young young agent and when i would now get in front of
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a group a cop senior cop senior agents you know it's uh if you're like the old show e.f hutton what
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when e.f hutton speaks everyone listens yeah so they started started you know listening but along
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the way it's it's stressful man it's stressful let me let me ask you this on on the on the stress part of
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it first of all i don't want to give any spoilers for anybody who hasn't seen the series on netflix
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um but is that last episode did that at all anything like that did you go through that well it was
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actually it's worse uh it's worse than the oh my gosh because it was that particular way that didn't
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didn't happen like that but i um i i was training in new york city uh to um in 1983 and it was around
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let's see around october november and while while on stage training several hundred police from
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from nassau county suffolk all around manhattan um i'm start i just came back on the yorkshire
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ripper case i i have to go up to uh alaska where a guy i believe is hunting down women he's he's
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abducting women stripping them down naked as he takes them to his airplane flies them up into the
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wilderness and hunts them down and then there's the green river the green river killer in seattle
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washington so i had this anxiety attack uh while on stage and and i know my material so well that my
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mouth is talking but my brain is elsewhere and i feel like i'm i'm having a heart attack i'm i'm perspiring
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i'm saying to myself i'm saying douglas man you got to regroup you got to come come out of this
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refocus focus and uh so i got through it i don't think anyone no one ever said anything no one ever
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detected it but uh by the time i got back to quantico i i felt at 38 years of age i'm going to have a
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heart attack i'm going to something i'm going to have cancer something's going to happen to me so i
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took out all this income protection insurance and then it's now time to go out on the green river
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murder case in seattle washington i have tremendous headaches i have to train two younger agents now
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assigned to my program and the long and short out there what happened was is before i went to the
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before the task force come back to my hotel room tell the agents i feel like i'm getting a flu and
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that night i collapsed in my hotel room floor like they kicked down the door three days later because
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i have a do not disturb sign on the door and they find me in a frog-like position my brain had split in
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the right temporal lobe from 107 degree body temperature my heart beats 220 and i'm in a coma and
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i'll remain in a coma for a a week and come out of the coma paralyzed all along that the the left
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side can't you know can't speak uh before i came out of the coma they were planning i'm a veteran
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they were planning to bury me at the veteran uh veteran cemetery and um the doctors later on when i
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came back they flew me back after a month in the hospital back to where i live in virginia uh went to
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various doctors went to psychologists and psychologists tested me and they said john he
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said man well first you got your viral encephalitis brought on your immune system is so low uh you
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came very close to dying plus you had complications of blood clots that nearly killed you and he says
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but the you were really suffering this post-traumatic stress disorder that some and some of the things we
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see in and our veterans coming back but your experience is same kind of thing
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same kind of thing here uh dealing with death and violence and dealing with the victims of
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these violent crimes that break your heart when you have to deal with them or when a victim's
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mother tells you john you have to tell me how my daughter was killed did my daughter fight and
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you know on and on and it really is uh it was emotionally uh exhausting so john did you did you
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because in watching you and in reading these books that you've you've written um you at least i am i i
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i think the toll on you on sitting you know and and and intentionally making them feel superior to you
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by by adjusting the chair so they're higher than you are and doing all these things and befriending them
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um it just seems like there is a you're paying a uh a price in your soul uh to be able to get this
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information well yeah i'll give you an example i interviewed richard speck who killed seven nurses
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uh in uh in the chicago area and and and he was extremely violent uh they were holding him in a cage
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uh and they wanted me to show show me his cell first in his pornography and in his cell but meanwhile
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he's screaming and yelling like uh you know like crazy and and when i finally got back in his cage
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with him i was with his counselor uh i decided to totally ignore him and turn my back to him and
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i had a conversation with his counselor and i i had to use i use street language and talking to his
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counselor about the crimes that he committed you know kind of filthy kind of language but the kind of
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language that you know richard speck can identify with and i said something to to the effect that you
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know to his counselor i said i don't know what this guy eats uh for breakfast but man i said he uh he
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raped these seven uh you know seven women i don't understand it i knew he didn't do that so he chimes
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in behind me he's he's sitting up on top of the cordenzo i'm six foot two and he's six two as well
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but he still wants to dominate you know over me and you let him do it and he says i didn't i didn't
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and using street terms what he did to those girls and i said i know i said it was just the the one on the
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couch and he says you're crazy man you ought to be in here you're with us i mean you're just like us
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and i'm really not just like him but i have to show this this false sense of of empathy and i'd be
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lying to you glenn if i tell you at the end of the day when i have to come back to my own family and
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at the time and then the young children uh you know that have and that you may have flashbacks
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you may even be in bed with your wife one night and and and um you're thinking that some amorous
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type of thing you may want to be doing but now you're thinking about some horrific case
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that you're oh my god you're working on and it's really uh it's dangerous to your health
00:27:18.840
all right i want to i want to take a i assume you don't tell her to tell her that on date night
00:27:22.200
you're like oh honey yeah you know what i'm thinking about right now
00:27:27.000
john i i'm going to take a quick break for about a minute and then we're going to come back and
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continue our conversation but i just have to thank you for what you've endured as a as a human being
00:27:36.360
for all of our sakes uh you know you you put up with both sides the law and the devil uh and uh and
00:27:45.320
took a lot of grief and and thank you for for standing and doing that oh thank you back in just one more
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minute uh john douglas uh the killer across the table he is the original mind hunter that if you've
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seen the netflix show this is the guy this is the best of the glenn beck program
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00:28:42.200
dave rubin how are you sir glenn it's good to be with you where are you like the north pole this is
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the worst phone connection i've heard since my grandmother are we on a bad connection here i am
00:28:59.560
i'm in my backyard at the moment because la uh at&t service is uh is hit or miss yeah well wow it's bad
00:29:06.920
let me see if i could let me see if i can shift into no no it's fine it just it just sounds like
00:29:11.720
you're on using on like an old timey phone and a lot of hits it's like i've got a person to person
00:29:17.400
coast to coast call for you mr beck um well glenn i have to go on the assumption that you know i've
00:29:23.640
been dealing with these problems with youtube that it must be the phone company that's right
00:29:29.400
congratulations on a million subscribers on youtube and i know you have taken uh some pretty big risks
00:29:36.760
uh recently uh to stand up for your principles and and putting your eggs in the youtube basket
00:29:45.800
is really kind of a frightening thing uh and it is paying off for you in some regard uh i know that
00:29:53.720
they demonetize you if if you have anybody that is slightly to the right of bernie sanders
00:30:00.520
i know they flag you immediately well it's pretty crazy what they're doing and you know this is a
00:30:08.360
really really interesting debate that we've discussed a little bit before where it's starting
00:30:13.400
to push my libertarian side which is my which is the core of what i am uh it's pushing my libertarian
00:30:20.360
side to its limits because look these are private companies and in my estimation they can do what they
00:30:26.280
want to do nobody's forcing me to be on youtube i'm voluntarily using their service they provide
00:30:32.840
when it when they're doing it right and then people are getting your videos and they're staying
00:30:36.760
subscribed and all those things they're providing an incredible service and all of those things so i i
00:30:41.400
say that primarily but the next part is how these tech companies become so awesomely powerful that we
00:30:49.880
actually can't even grapple with how much information they control how much power they have
00:30:55.640
the the amount of uh connections that they have with the government at this point uh these are all
00:31:02.520
things that we have to think about and you know there is a seemingly really big push i'm seeing on the
00:31:07.800
right right now from conservatives to ask for government intervention don't don't don't don't
00:31:12.920
the big tech bad idea bad idea so look i get why in the short term people think this will be good
00:31:20.200
because it does seem that conservatives are getting banned more but you have to always take you know a
00:31:25.320
couple steps down the road with these things and the point is well if you hand over the power to the
00:31:29.960
government i mean first off the idea that the government could run tech companies or regulate tech
00:31:34.120
companies i mean when was the last time you were on a government website it looks like aol in 1994 so so
00:31:39.640
that that's just like the easy version of it but the real issue of course is that so let's say you
00:31:45.000
hand over the power to the government to regulate or to be in charge of these tech companies or break
00:31:50.680
them up or whatever it is well the government now a trump you know conservative presidency might be
00:31:56.360
friendly to conservatives right now but what happens if the democratic socialists get in power and
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now they've got the tech companies we know they have the tech companies and now they've got the
00:32:05.960
government too i mean how quickly do you think they'll be banning all of the people that they
00:32:10.520
deem to be uh you know nazis and white supremacists and the rest of it so that's where you know i know
00:32:15.640
you know this but that of course is where you really have to be leery of of using power until the
00:32:23.160
absolute last second first of all um you know regulation you know when when mark zuckerberg comes out and is
00:32:31.240
begging for regulation you know it's in his best interest at facebook to have regulation and the
00:32:38.120
reason why is because they will come to those people and those companies and say how do we regulate
00:32:43.720
and they will write the laws which will take all competition and crush any possible contender uh to their
00:32:51.800
throne on top of that if we get them and we we go to them and say how do we regulate you and they get
00:33:00.840
their regulation it will not only crush all competition but on top of it it will then make
00:33:08.680
the bill of rights absolutely worthless because these are companies that are private and so they do have
00:33:17.160
a right but if they're the backbone and because of regulation that's really all our choice they can ban
00:33:25.320
any voice and you have nowhere to go because the bill of rights does not apply to them it will apply
00:33:34.520
to the government so this is the the catch-22 and i think for people like us that put liberty before
00:33:41.320
everything else i think this is the tricky spot that we're in because look but you know glenn you've
00:33:45.640
built an incredible company using using digital uh properties right like i'm on youtube we use we do
00:33:52.920
podcasts and all sorts of things now the simple truth is uh you probably have some extra protections
00:33:58.440
because of the way i think you have a technology arm of the blaze so some of your stuff yes proprietary
00:34:03.160
but which is which is actually probably the way all creators should be going ultimately and i've been
00:34:08.200
i've been researching a little bit into that but the point is that right this moment as we're talking
00:34:13.320
technically there's nothing that i can do to stop youtube from just shutting me off and and
00:34:19.080
itunes kicking me out and the rest of it correct and it's like that is that is a truly truly awesome
00:34:25.720
power that they have especially as we know that all of this seems to be getting ramped up to 2020 so
00:34:31.480
it's putting all of us especially the liberty-minded folks in a in a really weird position and and what
00:34:37.960
i'm afraid of is i'm seeing too many conservatives just you know chomp at the bit here and say you
00:34:43.720
you know regulate regulate regulate and it it will just be used together now that being said you know
00:34:49.640
creating the competition so for for people like us that believe in competition right we believe in
00:34:54.120
human ingenuity we believe we can we can solve problems and i would always rather the free market
00:34:58.680
solving i mean there's still a major issue here which is that the amount of money and resources uh to to
00:35:05.320
solve these problems is so massive and you know there's blockchain technologies and all sorts of
00:35:10.520
interesting things that are that are still sort of years away from being mass adopted so we're just
00:35:16.360
at a unique point and you know hopefully hopefully those of us that are doing good work uh and and trying
00:35:23.160
to get some truth out there you know hopefully it's not being turned against us just yet but you just don't
00:35:29.320
know you really don't um dave i want to make a pitch for somebody um there is a guy who's wrote uh who
00:35:37.080
who wrote the book uh the history of the future his name is blake harris do you know who he is
00:35:43.640
you know his name has come across every now and again i get i get messages suddenly and a few people
00:35:49.080
have messaged me about him you need to have him on um i've had him on several times and the story that
00:35:56.040
he tells he's just like you i mean he was a liberal and now he's kind of like wait a minute wait a minute i
00:36:02.120
don't that's not what i bought into this is i'm on the wrong side um and and he's he's much more of a
00:36:09.240
classic liberal uh very very freedom-minded but he has the inside scoop of what's happening with
00:36:17.640
zuckerberg and facebook he has he has evidence of of laws being uh broken by mike by mark zuckerberg
00:36:28.280
himself uh it's it's incredible and no one in the media is giving him any attention and
00:36:36.680
you know his his books you know one of the first book is being made into it was made into a movie
00:36:42.280
and now a tv show seth rogan is that yeah yeah so um interesting you know yeah i do i do know who he
00:36:48.680
is he's the guy that wrote the book about oculus and some of the internal documents that were going
00:36:53.080
around yes uh i i will talk to him for sure and it's super interesting and you know that actually
00:36:58.040
brings up a good point uh something that i was sort of tweeting about this morning is that the
00:37:01.960
other thing that we're seeing right now you know in an age of fake news it's not just sort of the
00:37:07.800
nonsense that the media puts out that that's fake news and the manipulation and you know quotes where
00:37:13.640
they literally take out the word not at the beginning of the sentence or any other stuff it's
00:37:18.360
also what they refuse to report on so for example you know i'm sure you talked about it on your show
00:37:23.720
but brian simms the state rep in pennsylvania who was harassing those those little girls outside of
00:37:29.240
the abortion clinic it's like cnn did not even touch that story and that is a type of fake news that we
00:37:36.280
need to be aware of you know that that uh the muslim school in philadelphia where they were literally
00:37:42.200
training jihadists yes there's jihadists also in philadelphia it's like that wasn't touched and it's
00:37:48.600
like if you took the reverse of any of these where this was a christian school or it was a christian
00:37:54.440
man harassing somebody else or a republican or a conservative doing any of these things if you just
00:37:59.480
flip if you flip the immutable characteristics on these things the media would be in an outrage so
00:38:05.000
we need to really recalibrate how how we're looking at media as a whole it's why we that's of course
00:38:10.680
directly related to all the stuff we're talking about with the tech companies it's honestly why we have to
00:38:15.400
talk to one another because we just assume that the democrats that we might know and i'm not talking
00:38:22.000
about the i'm not talking about the activists i'm talking about just the average democrat that we know
00:38:26.760
we think that they know these stories and i did this with riaz patal who is a guy who is is very liberal
00:38:34.900
and after the election i brought him in and i said let me show you these stories i just picked like
00:38:42.220
10 or 15 stories this is why we were so upset at barack obama and i gave him the stories and i think
00:38:49.940
about eight out of those 10 stories and he's a well-informed guy he had never heard of he he was
00:38:57.040
like what is that i don't even know what that is and it was because of of the editing of the truth
00:39:03.840
yeah and this is the huge problem with you know look we're all walking around with iphones we have
00:39:09.220
access to information in an absolutely unprecedented way a way that i think 20 years from now there will
00:39:15.080
be many many studies written on how this changed the human mind and human communication and all of
00:39:20.620
these things uh but you know there there is a risk here in that you know 20 years ago when we had abc
00:39:26.860
you know cbs nbc you basically got the same stories out of out of the three networks cable news
00:39:32.900
interrupted and you got a little bit of a widening of that and now we live in a time where the
00:39:37.380
there's basically no safeguards whatsoever now i generally think that's a good thing
00:39:42.500
but the problem is that we're all catering it to ourselves and then yes the good because i believe
00:39:49.360
and i know you do too there are still good liberals out there um but they they are having the wool pulled
00:39:56.120
over their eyes and they don't hear these stories and then you know then they see us you know sort of
00:40:01.660
ranting and raving about things and they go ah you know they're they're just nuts you know they're
00:40:06.400
they're aiming the wrong way and it's like this is why what i've always said is if the media would
00:40:11.300
just do a decent job they don't have to do a great job they don't even have to do a good job truly i
00:40:16.920
mean this if they would if they would just be doing a decent job so that i could wake up every morning
00:40:23.100
and look at twitter and not realize that cnn either misquoted several people or you know absolutely
00:40:29.440
ignored a story or whatever it is if they would just not do that then the bunch of us that are on the
00:40:34.640
outside of this uh that are doing this in a youtube space or in a podcast space we wouldn't
00:40:39.160
have as much ammo and i would actually prefer that i would find something else to do with my life i
00:40:44.260
would move into a farm one day you know yeah me too me too dave congratulations thank you so much
00:40:50.600
we'll talk again god bless i'll see you soon you bet uh dave rubin from the rubin report by the way
00:40:57.500
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00:42:20.200
you know it's really uh there was an article in the atlantic recently charting the percentage of
00:42:32.480
you know what the poll found uh most americans can't stand political correctness
00:42:40.680
overwhelmingly most americans cannot stand it except one group
00:42:47.600
progressive activists progressive activists the only ones that strongly back political correctness
00:42:59.080
and only 30 percent see it as a problem that's amazing i mean how is it ruling our society then
00:43:05.300
i know i mean i'll get on i mean it's not just progressive activists on twitter trying to get
00:43:09.440
everybody fired here's how it is the study found that progressive activists despite their obsession
00:43:14.200
with socialism their hatred of the patriarchy and disdain for the rich white men are overwhelmingly
00:43:19.400
rich white and overeducated men compared to the rest of the nationally representative polling sample
00:43:28.060
progressive activists are much more likely to be rich highly educated and white they are nearly twice
00:43:35.240
as likely uh as the average to make more than a hundred thousand dollars a year they are three times as
00:43:42.040
likely to have a postgraduate degree and while 12 percent of the over overall sample in the study is
00:43:48.040
african-american only three percent of progressive activists are african-american now where's the
00:43:57.200
diversity there the reason why twitter has so much power and such a left bias is because journalists
00:44:08.320
have become masterful at using it as a feedback loop journalists use it as a source a representation
00:44:16.000
of public opinion and twitter users who are overwhelmingly and disproportionately progressive
00:44:22.400
activists can enjoy a sense of power that they've clearly only dreamt of so it becomes this feedback loop
00:44:31.040
that's why what dave rubin is doing that's why what the blaze is doing that's why you know ben shapiro and
00:44:40.220
what he's doing and and stephen crowder and all of us it's why this is so important because twitter is not
00:44:49.300
real life it's not even represent representative of of the actual population you know what is it four percent of
00:44:58.900
all people on twitter uh are responsible for eighty percent of the tweets something like that maybe it
00:45:05.900
might even be two percent was it two percent okay it was two or four percent responsible for eighty percent
00:45:09.940
of the tweets and remember uh that is not that many people are on even on twitter i mean it rules the new
00:45:17.300
newscasts because it's easy for journalists it's a lazy journalism tool how do i get a quote about the story
00:45:23.020
i used to have to call i used to have to you know get in touch with somebody used to have to make you know
00:45:27.220
walk up to someone with a with a with a microphone now let's go to twitter what do they tweet about it
00:45:31.440
okay there it is pop it in the story so journalists love it it makes their lives a lot easier but i mean
00:45:36.820
it's a very small percentage of people who are even on twitter let alone following it closely and that's
00:45:41.700
what media is reflecting this is a a parabolic dish it's not a straight mirror it's a it's a it's a
00:45:50.960
distortion of reality it's a funhouse mirror because that is not reflective of the american people