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00:00:30.660 this woman is from south africa she worked for reuters over in south africa

00:00:37.860 and then cbs news and then abc and nbc and cnn

00:00:43.460 she was in 2002 she was on the battlefields all around the world as we were engaging in war

00:00:52.920 she was part of face the nation and the cbs morning news

00:00:57.820 and then in 2006 she became the chief foreign correspondent for cbs news

00:01:04.080 and she held that job up until recently

00:01:06.920 but something has changed in her and maybe it's just her freedom

00:01:13.080 she is able to say the things that nobody seems to be saying anywhere

00:01:18.960 her name is laura logan and she joins us in one minute 0.99

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00:01:47.280 journalist and a profile in courage laura logan joins us now

00:01:57.940 laura nice to nice to meet you and nice to have you on the program

00:02:02.980 well thank you for having me i appreciate it

00:02:06.220 um let's let's get right into what you're doing recently

00:02:10.080 and then i'd like to kind of open it up to uh more broad on uh on the media

00:02:15.780 and what to expect and what we can what we can do to change things

00:02:20.300 but you've been down on our border uh and strangely you have a different report

00:02:26.500 than what the mainstream media is giving everyone

00:02:28.920 well you know to be honest i don't watch uh what the mainstream media is giving everybody

00:02:34.860 especially when i'm working right because my job is well i'm focused on doing my job

00:02:40.020 yeah i'm not i'm not too worried about what other people are doing

00:02:43.180 and a wise old correspondent told me many years ago

00:02:47.200 that he you know every day he goes out and he does his best

00:02:50.280 and he doesn't worry about his competition and

00:02:52.540 some days he's the best and some days uh he's not

00:02:55.720 so um but it's not surprising to me that

00:02:59.740 it's different because i know where i go um people all the time along the border

00:03:04.840 in all different capacities keep saying nobody is telling our story

00:03:09.520 nobody is is is talking about this nobody's telling

00:03:12.840 the truth of you know it's not that people are lying about the border

00:03:16.260 it's not that there's it's just that there's more than one story

00:03:19.560 the only story is not simply a story of you know of um of poor people who want to move

00:03:26.180 to the united states to improve their lives that is one part of the story and it's a very important

00:03:30.920 part of the story and i can honestly tell you i've had moments where

00:03:34.600 you know i've been crying into my um my basically my

00:03:38.340 pretty uh crappy bed in my pretty crappy hotel at night

00:03:42.540 and i've uh just about wanted to cry thinking about the people who

00:03:46.500 don't um don't even know you know the people i've seen with their children and all the rest

00:03:51.520 said i mean i've got a big heart and that breaks my heart but it's only one part of the story

00:03:57.200 so you know my job as a reporter has always been to understand the full context and cover

00:04:02.820 as much of the story as i can and that's all i'm trying to do

00:04:06.740 so there are there are the the sins of omission and i think that's what people are committing by

00:04:13.100 saying that this is the only part of the story and you're right i've been down at the border

00:04:17.600 myself and you know we raised we raised money to bring you know food and comfort down to some of

00:04:23.460 the children that were there in in uh during the obama administration i tried to get the media to pay

00:04:30.140 attention to the cages you're not allowed to talk about that i know i know i know but it doesn't

00:04:35.300 happen and and it it shows this real bias and i i don't want to dwell on this one words for you

00:04:41.340 i've got one words for you i have actually spoken to people down there right across law enforcement

00:04:46.440 and border patrol who actually talk about when in a in a certain point in the obama administration

00:04:52.660 when they no longer wanted to deal with the deporter in chief title and the problem of all

00:04:58.920 the children that they had in detention basically in prison don't that some people like to so-called

00:05:04.260 that cages um what did they do to actually border patrol agents then had orders where they would

00:05:11.080 have to intercept people who they found coming over the border in certain parts and they would have

00:05:16.380 to escort them back down to the border and send them back don't apprehend them don't create a statistic

00:05:23.400 don't create a problem for us let's just push you over the border then and pretend that this is not

00:05:30.200 happening that i can't say how widespread that was i can't say that it was everywhere but i can tell you

00:05:37.880 that it did happen and more than once so what is it that you're that people are saying nobody's telling

00:05:44.360 this story what are the important stories that we're not hearing well first and foremost um what

00:05:51.080 what people just leave out of the narrative is that this is almost like a theater it's not it's a

00:05:57.640 performance not for the people who are living it because they are they are like their pawns um it's a

00:06:05.320 theater for the cartels yes they make an enormous amount of money out of all the people that cross 0.99

00:06:10.920 because they take most of the smuggling fees they don't run the smuggling operations they're way too

00:06:15.800 smart for that they have professional human smuggling operations human trafficking organizations that are

00:06:21.640 global who do the smuggling for them but they pay most uh an enormous amount of what they earn they pay

00:06:29.400 that to the cartels the cartels decide the mexican cartels decide who crosses where they cross when

00:06:35.800 they cross and so if you imagine you're a pilot and you can see the whole border from the air um that's

00:06:41.400 really how the cartels operate you know it's divided up into the three main cartels now the sinaloa cartel

00:06:47.240 the gulf cartel and what used to be called the zetas that's now cartel del nostre del nostre but

00:06:53.800 those are the three main cartels that control the traffic and the reason you have people coming

00:06:58.760 in all these difficult places one of the reasons a big reason is that the cartels know if they split

00:07:06.360 the resources of border patrol if um if you've got a group of five people a group of ten people and

00:07:12.440 they all run in different directions how many agents does it now take to stop them you know so that's

00:07:19.080 exactly what they're doing they're splitting the resources pilots have described to me for example

00:07:23.160 in parts of the border seeing uh groups of anywhere between 50 and 200 crossing at exactly the state

00:07:29.720 at the same time at the crossing points sort of you know 100 yards um from each other right so imagine

00:07:36.680 in five different places separated by 100 yards you have hundreds of people so what does that do in

00:07:44.600 one tiny little tiny little town on the border in uh texas on the rio grande valley they have they

00:07:52.200 have border patrol facilities that are built to house a maximum of 116 people last weekend they had

00:07:59.480 over 1100 over 1100 in one weekend and they have people every single day and that's just one weekend

00:08:06.440 this has been going on for months and months and months so in these places where people get um you know 0.95

00:08:12.600 uh people get told all the time texans for example texans are a bunch of racist rednecks right and 0.97

00:08:19.000 texas don't care about people look they don't recognize the children of illegal immigrants born 0.96

00:08:23.320 is going to look at all the evil things people in texas do they put illegal immigrants under bridges 0.88

00:08:28.120 in terrible weather to suffer well literally you've got border patrol agents looking at at me with

00:08:33.720 desperation saying we don't know where else to put people you've got um churches in el paso who the

00:08:41.960 ngos have run out of capacity right the ngos that come from new york and other parts of the country

00:08:47.720 that like to do interviews in the paper sometimes about everything they're doing down on the border

00:08:53.000 except they've run out of capacity and um it's the local people in many of these places who are um

00:08:59.880 trying to bear you know to help in some ways and the other you know there's another really important

00:09:05.160 thing that that um gets left out of the narrative which um is that the large majority of border

00:09:13.240 patrol agents are hispanic americans or mexican americans or whatever you want to call them

00:09:18.760 they're not you know it's not just um these evil white men who are trying to um stop people coming

00:09:25.480 into this this country it's not that at all in fact it's much more complex and in some of these towns

00:09:31.960 the vast majority of the people who live there are hispanic american and um and and you know texas

00:09:38.760 itself has a history that's very much wrapped up in mexico and the first president of texas was mexican

00:09:47.000 and when you look at the history here these these um two people they you know i'm not painting a picture

00:09:52.120 of nirvana there's always issues between people but it's very different to what people say it is from a

00:09:57.400 distance it's the reality is is not much like that at all and i have i have um i have yet to meet

00:10:05.720 anyone who wants these uh people to suffer or who is deliberately cruel to people and you know my

00:10:11.880 experience is limited to my experience you know but um but i will tell you this when you say these

00:10:18.680 people are pawns they are they're being i feel horrible for them because if in in in some cases

00:10:26.440 not all cases but in many cases i think if i were on the other side of the border and i saw that

00:10:32.680 america really didn't care about its borders and they were going to give away free citizenship and i 0.87

00:10:39.000 could get my family there and my family doesn't we're living in a town that maybe has violence but

00:10:45.240 doesn't have any real chance for my kids you're damn right i'd be over here i would absolutely do

00:10:51.320 it because i would think that america didn't really care and they were offering citizenship so take that

00:10:58.120 chance for my children to be able to have a better life that that they those people are being preyed on

00:11:05.640 by all these different groups that have all different agendas including the drug cartels that are

00:11:12.920 holding back some family members and saying look we're gonna sell you this and we'll bring them

00:11:18.280 over you do us a favor we'll do you a favor and then we'll send your your relative over and i mean

00:11:23.560 we're importing people and enslaving people to to some of these drug cartels oh no we're doing the bidding

00:11:31.640 of the drug cartels yes whether wittingly or unwittingly that's happening um and i can tell you i can add to

00:11:38.520 what you're saying glenn how about if you were watching or listening to commercials on the radio

00:11:43.640 which tell you go to america you're going to get a house you're going to get land you're going to get

00:11:48.280 a job you're going to get this or that and then add to that the fact that you know i mean one of um

00:11:54.600 one of my most trusted most at the person that i respect most in the world my producer max mcclellan

00:12:01.000 he went and did a story in a series of reports in honduras he was actually with his family when they

00:12:07.000 said goodbye to their 15 year old daughter and sent her to a better life in america and you can

00:12:12.520 imagine right i mean he's a dad he's got a daughter i have two daughters and a son i mean what could be

00:12:17.880 more heartbreaking than that i mean it's it's really painful for me to even imagine being in that

00:12:23.560 situation but they don't even know if their daughter is actually going to a real job in america there's so

00:12:31.560 much sex trafficking and you imagine sending your 15 year old daughter into nobody does that unless

00:12:39.160 they are absolutely desperate or they um have no other options right nobody nobody i mean the family

00:12:45.400 you know the mother was sobbing the father was crying the daughter was crying you can imagine that's 0.58

00:12:50.440 a very painful thing so but her chance she has a significant chance of being raped along the way 1.00

00:12:56.600 when people come from latin america they get to the first stash house inside of mexico people get 0.67

00:13:01.160 raped at the stash houses and then there's another stash house you know there's other stash houses all

00:13:06.120 along the way but right on the um mexican side close to the border and then more stash houses when you

00:13:12.040 cross the border and i've um you know i've been looking at doing stories on this we have reports of

00:13:17.400 different uh people who get raped at every one of those locations along the way and then you know but

00:13:23.400 we still we're still trying to find someone who has been through that to talk about it

00:13:27.560 because these things are very difficult to cover and also because um because you know it's very easy

00:13:33.080 to tear these um stories apart this is here i have one for you this is the only time in my career as a

00:13:40.520 journalist a professional where i have uh looked at um at the statistics of rape and sexual abuse right

00:13:49.240 trying to figure out okay how many how prevalent is this what exactly are the facts how what is the

00:13:56.600 chance when you get on that journey that this is going to happen to you how bad is it truly right

00:14:02.520 and in this case um this is one case where the media by and large says oh you can't prove that this is

00:14:10.520 happening oh you know yes there was this msf medicine the ngo they did a big study on it and they found

00:14:17.640 that you know at least 30 percent of uh of the women um making this journey get raped or sexually

00:14:23.960 assaulted but what do you have um many journalists turning around and saying then well they took a

00:14:29.560 sample of people um on their way to the us in mexico they didn't you know take everybody and they didn't

00:14:36.360 take everybody from every different country and so you get 15 reasons why the msf statistic is not

00:14:42.280 representative well you know isn't the standard the way we normally in the media treat rape and sexual

00:14:47.960 assault figures is we always say it's the most underreported crime don't we doesn't that sound

00:14:52.760 familiar and it's just a small i'm only making it's a small irony that i that i noticed when i was

00:14:58.680 researching this story i thought wow all my professional life you know wherever i've been people have said

00:15:05.080 that uh there's you know if that's the official figure you can bet it's much more than that yes

00:15:10.840 now here you have people actually defending human traffickers defending cartels defending coyotes

00:15:17.800 who rape people and saying well you know it's we we can't trust that so because it's not fully

00:15:23.320 representative so laura i i want to i want to break for a minute uh literally one minute and then i want

00:15:29.080 to come back and i want to ask you why why how how is that happening that that intelligent

00:15:34.920 people are are taking sides of monsters and they don't see it that way back in one minute with

00:15:42.120 lara logan uh you can follow her at lara logan.com lara logan.com the best of the glenn beck program

00:15:59.640 hey it's glenn and if you like what you hear on the program you should check out pat gray

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00:16:21.880 john douglas the original mind hunter is uh on with us now hello john how are you sir

00:16:36.680 very well glenn thanks for having me uh it's an honor to talk to you um i remember um what in some

00:16:43.960 way what you went through when you first started talking to people because i remember my grandfather

00:16:49.080 saying these guys are just talking to them they're going to make excuses i don't care what happened

00:16:54.040 to them in their life they did the crime and that was the prevalent theory when you started

00:17:01.080 interviewing these mass murderers correct uh at the fbi very very much what's happening on the uh

00:17:08.360 series the mind hunter series on netflix um the question was why am i doing this what what are you

00:17:13.640 doing uh you shouldn't be going into the prisons doing these interviews well at the time i was 32

00:17:19.880 years old uh i came back uh to quantico after working seven years in the field i was a very

00:17:25.480 young agent when i was recruited i just got out of the military at four years of military a couple

00:17:29.960 advanced degrees and came back and was sitting back in the classroom now i had to audit the senior

00:17:35.960 instruction instructors and these senior instructors just didn't have their facts right and and how do i

00:17:42.520 know that because there were police officers in the classroom that were challenging the instructors

00:17:48.120 and they say hey look you know i worked the manson case you got your facts all screwed up so here i am

00:17:52.920 now 32 years old and i got to get up in front of these senior investigators from throughout the world and and

00:17:59.960 fbi agents you know at some point and and what can i do to accelerate my learning so in the old days

00:18:05.960 we had what we call road schools you go out and and maybe teaching in san diego then later on boise

00:18:11.880 idaho you know let's go into these prisons i asked my partner i said let's go let's see if manson will

00:18:17.560 talk to us let's see if um david berkowitz uh the son of sam or sir sir hand sir hand and um thought

00:18:25.160 it was a crazy idea but went into the the uh prisons just unannounced which was kind of good when you're

00:18:30.520 an agent you just show your creds you can go in and and you don't have to tell anybody why you want to

00:18:35.000 speak to these people and to our surprise they were very very uh very very forthcoming very very uh

00:18:41.560 interested in speaking with me but we made mistakes early on in the uh when we first started doing

00:18:47.320 the interviews uh would go in there with notes uh go in there with a tape recorder and that was a

00:18:53.160 eternal uh a a turn off for them uh why because they uh they're paranoid individuals and they should

00:18:59.560 be paranoid they're incarcerated with a lot of other violent offenders they don't trust corrections

00:19:04.280 they're certainly not going to trust uh the fbi so what i began to do as we went along and we

00:19:11.560 teamed up with dr am burgess boston college and we developed a computerized instrument for interviews

00:19:17.720 uh which i would never fill out uh during the interview process would be before and after the uh

00:19:23.160 you know the interview and then um started to uh you know document this you know this material and

00:19:29.720 and began to get some really fantastic information uh from them regarding victim selection pre-offense

00:19:37.320 behavior post-offense behavior then i started thinking what can i do creatively creatively to

00:19:43.000 create a situation where i may cause david berkowitz for example uh to go to the grave site of his uh

00:19:49.640 victims or to inject himself into the police investigation well the bureau stood afar they were they were

00:19:56.120 really against this you know what the hell are you doing you know this kind of you know this kind of

00:20:00.280 work and and they were really the last ones to embrace my own agency they were waiting for me i

00:20:06.440 think to screw up and then they'd send me to uh butte montana you know wrestling you know cases

00:20:11.480 right something like that so so you know they were the last ones uh you know to embrace it and then

00:20:17.560 when i got really some national some international publicity uh and i was doing so many cases but then

00:20:23.400 when i hit the atlanta the atlanta child killings was very controversial i was censured uh by the

00:20:29.400 bureau uh when i i publicly said the killer would be a a a black offender would not be white in that

00:20:36.360 particular case historically we had a lot of white serial killers leading up to uh to that time and um

00:20:43.480 when they finally they uh arrested wayne b williams in the case then i got involved in cross-examination

00:20:50.920 strategies coaching the prosecutor and how to how to um go after him on the stand and again i was

00:20:57.080 very very very very young but now as this young young agent and when i would now get in front of

00:21:02.360 a group a cop senior cop senior agents you know it's uh if you're like the old show e.f hutton what

00:21:08.920 when e.f hutton speaks everyone listens yeah so they started started you know listening but along

00:21:14.040 the way it's it's stressful man it's stressful let me let me ask you this on on the on the stress part of

00:21:20.600 it first of all i don't want to give any spoilers for anybody who hasn't seen the series on netflix

00:21:25.560 um but is that last episode did that at all anything like that did you go through that well it was

00:21:33.400 actually it's worse uh it's worse than the oh my gosh because it was that particular way that didn't

00:21:40.040 didn't happen like that but i um i i was training in new york city uh to um in 1983 and it was around

00:21:48.200 let's see around october november and while while on stage training several hundred police from

00:21:54.280 from nassau county suffolk all around manhattan um i'm start i just came back on the yorkshire

00:21:59.800 ripper case i i have to go up to uh alaska where a guy i believe is hunting down women he's he's

00:22:08.200 abducting women stripping them down naked as he takes them to his airplane flies them up into the 0.99

00:22:13.000 wilderness and hunts them down and then there's the green river the green river killer in seattle

00:22:17.800 washington so i had this anxiety attack uh while on stage and and i know my material so well that my

00:22:26.280 mouth is talking but my brain is elsewhere and i feel like i'm i'm having a heart attack i'm i'm perspiring

00:22:34.120 i'm saying to myself i'm saying douglas man you got to regroup you got to come come out of this

00:22:39.960 refocus focus and uh so i got through it i don't think anyone no one ever said anything no one ever

00:22:45.320 detected it but uh by the time i got back to quantico i i felt at 38 years of age i'm going to have a

00:22:52.120 heart attack i'm going to something i'm going to have cancer something's going to happen to me so i

00:22:56.440 took out all this income protection insurance and then it's now time to go out on the green river

00:23:01.160 murder case in seattle washington i have tremendous headaches i have to train two younger agents now

00:23:06.520 assigned to my program and the long and short out there what happened was is before i went to the

00:23:12.440 before the task force come back to my hotel room tell the agents i feel like i'm getting a flu and

00:23:18.200 that night i collapsed in my hotel room floor like they kicked down the door three days later because

00:23:23.320 i have a do not disturb sign on the door and they find me in a frog-like position my brain had split in

00:23:29.960 the right temporal lobe from 107 degree body temperature my heart beats 220 and i'm in a coma and

00:23:36.200 i'll remain in a coma for a a week and come out of the coma paralyzed all along that the the left

00:23:43.880 side can't you know can't speak uh before i came out of the coma they were planning i'm a veteran

00:23:48.920 they were planning to bury me at the veteran uh veteran cemetery and um the doctors later on when i

00:23:55.640 came back they flew me back after a month in the hospital back to where i live in virginia uh went to

00:24:02.680 various doctors went to psychologists and psychologists tested me and they said john he

00:24:07.400 said man well first you got your viral encephalitis brought on your immune system is so low uh you

00:24:13.880 came very close to dying plus you had complications of blood clots that nearly killed you and he says

00:24:19.160 but the you were really suffering this post-traumatic stress disorder that some and some of the things we

00:24:24.200 see in and our veterans coming back but your experience is same kind of thing

00:24:28.440 same kind of thing here uh dealing with death and violence and dealing with the victims of

00:24:33.400 these violent crimes that break your heart when you have to deal with them or when a victim's

00:24:39.240 mother tells you john you have to tell me how my daughter was killed did my daughter fight and

00:24:44.920 you know on and on and it really is uh it was emotionally uh exhausting so john did you did you

00:24:51.080 because in watching you and in reading these books that you've you've written um you at least i am i i

00:25:00.760 i think the toll on you on sitting you know and and and intentionally making them feel superior to you

00:25:10.920 by by adjusting the chair so they're higher than you are and doing all these things and befriending them

00:25:17.000 um it just seems like there is a you're paying a uh a price in your soul uh to be able to get this

00:25:26.360 information well yeah i'll give you an example i interviewed richard speck who killed seven nurses

00:25:31.880 uh in uh in the chicago area and and and he was extremely violent uh they were holding him in a cage

00:25:39.880 uh and they wanted me to show show me his cell first in his pornography and in his cell but meanwhile

00:25:45.320 he's screaming and yelling like uh you know like crazy and and when i finally got back in his cage

00:25:51.160 with him i was with his counselor uh i decided to totally ignore him and turn my back to him and

00:25:57.320 i had a conversation with his counselor and i i had to use i use street language and talking to his

00:26:03.960 counselor about the crimes that he committed you know kind of filthy kind of language but the kind of

00:26:08.600 language that you know richard speck can identify with and i said something to to the effect that you

00:26:14.120 know to his counselor i said i don't know what this guy eats uh for breakfast but man i said he uh he

00:26:19.480 raped these seven uh you know seven women i don't understand it i knew he didn't do that so he chimes

00:26:25.320 in behind me he's he's sitting up on top of the cordenzo i'm six foot two and he's six two as well

00:26:30.520 but he still wants to dominate you know over me and you let him do it and he says i didn't i didn't

00:26:35.480 and using street terms what he did to those girls and i said i know i said it was just the the one on the 0.97

00:26:40.200 couch and he says you're crazy man you ought to be in here you're with us i mean you're just like us

00:26:45.480 and i'm really not just like him but i have to show this this false sense of of empathy and i'd be 0.97

00:26:51.080 lying to you glenn if i tell you at the end of the day when i have to come back to my own family and

00:26:55.800 at the time and then the young children uh you know that have and that you may have flashbacks

00:27:01.960 you may even be in bed with your wife one night and and and um you're thinking that some amorous

00:27:08.600 type of thing you may want to be doing but now you're thinking about some horrific case

00:27:13.640 that you're oh my god you're working on and it's really uh it's dangerous to your health

00:27:18.840 all right i want to i want to take a i assume you don't tell her to tell her that on date night

00:27:22.200 you're like oh honey yeah you know what i'm thinking about right now

00:27:27.000 john i i'm going to take a quick break for about a minute and then we're going to come back and

00:27:30.360 continue our conversation but i just have to thank you for what you've endured as a as a human being

00:27:36.360 for all of our sakes uh you know you you put up with both sides the law and the devil uh and uh and

00:27:45.320 took a lot of grief and and thank you for for standing and doing that oh thank you back in just one more

00:27:51.880 minute uh john douglas uh the killer across the table he is the original mind hunter that if you've

00:27:59.080 seen the netflix show this is the guy this is the best of the glenn beck program

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00:28:42.200 dave rubin how are you sir glenn it's good to be with you where are you like the north pole this is

00:28:53.880 the worst phone connection i've heard since my grandmother are we on a bad connection here i am

00:28:59.560 i'm in my backyard at the moment because la uh at&t service is uh is hit or miss yeah well wow it's bad

00:29:06.920 let me see if i could let me see if i can shift into no no it's fine it just it just sounds like

00:29:11.720 you're on using on like an old timey phone and a lot of hits it's like i've got a person to person

00:29:17.400 coast to coast call for you mr beck um well glenn i have to go on the assumption that you know i've

00:29:23.640 been dealing with these problems with youtube that it must be the phone company that's right

00:29:29.400 congratulations on a million subscribers on youtube and i know you have taken uh some pretty big risks

00:29:36.760 uh recently uh to stand up for your principles and and putting your eggs in the youtube basket

00:29:45.800 is really kind of a frightening thing uh and it is paying off for you in some regard uh i know that

00:29:53.720 they demonetize you if if you have anybody that is slightly to the right of bernie sanders

00:30:00.520 i know they flag you immediately well it's pretty crazy what they're doing and you know this is a

00:30:08.360 really really interesting debate that we've discussed a little bit before where it's starting

00:30:13.400 to push my libertarian side which is my which is the core of what i am uh it's pushing my libertarian

00:30:20.360 side to its limits because look these are private companies and in my estimation they can do what they

00:30:26.280 want to do nobody's forcing me to be on youtube i'm voluntarily using their service they provide

00:30:32.840 when it when they're doing it right and then people are getting your videos and they're staying

00:30:36.760 subscribed and all those things they're providing an incredible service and all of those things so i i

00:30:41.400 say that primarily but the next part is how these tech companies become so awesomely powerful that we

00:30:49.880 actually can't even grapple with how much information they control how much power they have

00:30:55.640 the the amount of uh connections that they have with the government at this point uh these are all

00:31:02.520 things that we have to think about and you know there is a seemingly really big push i'm seeing on the

00:31:07.800 right right now from conservatives to ask for government intervention don't don't don't don't

00:31:12.920 the big tech bad idea bad idea so look i get why in the short term people think this will be good

00:31:20.200 because it does seem that conservatives are getting banned more but you have to always take you know a

00:31:25.320 couple steps down the road with these things and the point is well if you hand over the power to the

00:31:29.960 government i mean first off the idea that the government could run tech companies or regulate tech

00:31:34.120 companies i mean when was the last time you were on a government website it looks like aol in 1994 so so

00:31:39.640 that that's just like the easy version of it but the real issue of course is that so let's say you

00:31:45.000 hand over the power to the government to regulate or to be in charge of these tech companies or break

00:31:50.680 them up or whatever it is well the government now a trump you know conservative presidency might be

00:31:56.360 friendly to conservatives right now but what happens if the democratic socialists get in power and

00:32:02.040 now they've got the tech companies we know they have the tech companies and now they've got the

00:32:05.960 government too i mean how quickly do you think they'll be banning all of the people that they

00:32:10.520 deem to be uh you know nazis and white supremacists and the rest of it so that's where you know i know

00:32:15.640 you know this but that of course is where you really have to be leery of of using power until the

00:32:23.160 absolute last second first of all um you know regulation you know when when mark zuckerberg comes out and is

00:32:31.240 begging for regulation you know it's in his best interest at facebook to have regulation and the

00:32:38.120 reason why is because they will come to those people and those companies and say how do we regulate

00:32:43.720 and they will write the laws which will take all competition and crush any possible contender uh to their

00:32:51.800 throne on top of that if we get them and we we go to them and say how do we regulate you and they get

00:33:00.840 their regulation it will not only crush all competition but on top of it it will then make

00:33:08.680 the bill of rights absolutely worthless because these are companies that are private and so they do have

00:33:17.160 a right but if they're the backbone and because of regulation that's really all our choice they can ban

00:33:25.320 any voice and you have nowhere to go because the bill of rights does not apply to them it will apply

00:33:34.520 to the government so this is the the catch-22 and i think for people like us that put liberty before

00:33:41.320 everything else i think this is the tricky spot that we're in because look but you know glenn you've

00:33:45.640 built an incredible company using using digital uh properties right like i'm on youtube we use we do

00:33:52.920 podcasts and all sorts of things now the simple truth is uh you probably have some extra protections

00:33:58.440 because of the way i think you have a technology arm of the blaze so some of your stuff yes proprietary

00:34:03.160 but which is which is actually probably the way all creators should be going ultimately and i've been

00:34:08.200 i've been researching a little bit into that but the point is that right this moment as we're talking

00:34:13.320 technically there's nothing that i can do to stop youtube from just shutting me off and and

00:34:19.080 itunes kicking me out and the rest of it correct and it's like that is that is a truly truly awesome

00:34:25.720 power that they have especially as we know that all of this seems to be getting ramped up to 2020 so

00:34:31.480 it's putting all of us especially the liberty-minded folks in a in a really weird position and and what

00:34:37.960 i'm afraid of is i'm seeing too many conservatives just you know chomp at the bit here and say you

00:34:43.720 you know regulate regulate regulate and it it will just be used together now that being said you know

00:34:49.640 creating the competition so for for people like us that believe in competition right we believe in

00:34:54.120 human ingenuity we believe we can we can solve problems and i would always rather the free market

00:34:58.680 solving i mean there's still a major issue here which is that the amount of money and resources uh to to

00:35:05.320 solve these problems is so massive and you know there's blockchain technologies and all sorts of

00:35:10.520 interesting things that are that are still sort of years away from being mass adopted so we're just

00:35:16.360 at a unique point and you know hopefully hopefully those of us that are doing good work uh and and trying

00:35:23.160 to get some truth out there you know hopefully it's not being turned against us just yet but you just don't

00:35:29.320 know you really don't um dave i want to make a pitch for somebody um there is a guy who's wrote uh who

00:35:37.080 who wrote the book uh the history of the future his name is blake harris do you know who he is

00:35:43.640 you know his name has come across every now and again i get i get messages suddenly and a few people

00:35:49.080 have messaged me about him you need to have him on um i've had him on several times and the story that

00:35:56.040 he tells he's just like you i mean he was a liberal and now he's kind of like wait a minute wait a minute i

00:36:02.120 don't that's not what i bought into this is i'm on the wrong side um and and he's he's much more of a

00:36:09.240 classic liberal uh very very freedom-minded but he has the inside scoop of what's happening with

00:36:17.640 zuckerberg and facebook he has he has evidence of of laws being uh broken by mike by mark zuckerberg

00:36:28.280 himself uh it's it's incredible and no one in the media is giving him any attention and

00:36:36.680 you know his his books you know one of the first book is being made into it was made into a movie

00:36:42.280 and now a tv show seth rogan is that yeah yeah so um interesting you know yeah i do i do know who he

00:36:48.680 is he's the guy that wrote the book about oculus and some of the internal documents that were going

00:36:53.080 around yes uh i i will talk to him for sure and it's super interesting and you know that actually

00:36:58.040 brings up a good point uh something that i was sort of tweeting about this morning is that the

00:37:01.960 other thing that we're seeing right now you know in an age of fake news it's not just sort of the

00:37:07.800 nonsense that the media puts out that that's fake news and the manipulation and you know quotes where

00:37:13.640 they literally take out the word not at the beginning of the sentence or any other stuff it's

00:37:18.360 also what they refuse to report on so for example you know i'm sure you talked about it on your show

00:37:23.720 but brian simms the state rep in pennsylvania who was harassing those those little girls outside of

00:37:29.240 the abortion clinic it's like cnn did not even touch that story and that is a type of fake news that we

00:37:36.280 need to be aware of you know that that uh the muslim school in philadelphia where they were literally

00:37:42.200 training jihadists yes there's jihadists also in philadelphia it's like that wasn't touched and it's

00:37:48.600 like if you took the reverse of any of these where this was a christian school or it was a christian

00:37:54.440 man harassing somebody else or a republican or a conservative doing any of these things if you just

00:37:59.480 flip if you flip the immutable characteristics on these things the media would be in an outrage so

00:38:05.000 we need to really recalibrate how how we're looking at media as a whole it's why we that's of course

00:38:10.680 directly related to all the stuff we're talking about with the tech companies it's honestly why we have to

00:38:15.400 talk to one another because we just assume that the democrats that we might know and i'm not talking

00:38:22.000 about the i'm not talking about the activists i'm talking about just the average democrat that we know

00:38:26.760 we think that they know these stories and i did this with riaz patal who is a guy who is is very liberal

00:38:34.900 and after the election i brought him in and i said let me show you these stories i just picked like

00:38:42.220 10 or 15 stories this is why we were so upset at barack obama and i gave him the stories and i think

00:38:49.940 about eight out of those 10 stories and he's a well-informed guy he had never heard of he he was

00:38:57.040 like what is that i don't even know what that is and it was because of of the editing of the truth

00:39:03.840 yeah and this is the huge problem with you know look we're all walking around with iphones we have

00:39:09.220 access to information in an absolutely unprecedented way a way that i think 20 years from now there will

00:39:15.080 be many many studies written on how this changed the human mind and human communication and all of

00:39:20.620 these things uh but you know there there is a risk here in that you know 20 years ago when we had abc

00:39:26.860 you know cbs nbc you basically got the same stories out of out of the three networks cable news

00:39:32.900 interrupted and you got a little bit of a widening of that and now we live in a time where the

00:39:37.380 there's basically no safeguards whatsoever now i generally think that's a good thing

00:39:42.500 but the problem is that we're all catering it to ourselves and then yes the good because i believe

00:39:49.360 and i know you do too there are still good liberals out there um but they they are having the wool pulled

00:39:56.120 over their eyes and they don't hear these stories and then you know then they see us you know sort of 0.97

00:40:01.660 ranting and raving about things and they go ah you know they're they're just nuts you know they're

00:40:06.400 they're aiming the wrong way and it's like this is why what i've always said is if the media would

00:40:11.300 just do a decent job they don't have to do a great job they don't even have to do a good job truly i

00:40:16.920 mean this if they would if they would just be doing a decent job so that i could wake up every morning

00:40:23.100 and look at twitter and not realize that cnn either misquoted several people or you know absolutely

00:40:29.440 ignored a story or whatever it is if they would just not do that then the bunch of us that are on the

00:40:34.640 outside of this uh that are doing this in a youtube space or in a podcast space we wouldn't

00:40:39.160 have as much ammo and i would actually prefer that i would find something else to do with my life i

00:40:44.260 would move into a farm one day you know yeah me too me too dave congratulations thank you so much

00:40:50.600 we'll talk again god bless i'll see you soon you bet uh dave rubin from the rubin report by the way

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00:42:20.200 you know it's really uh there was an article in the atlantic recently charting the percentage of

00:42:29.800 americans who dislike political correctness

00:42:32.480 you know what the poll found uh most americans can't stand political correctness

00:42:40.680 overwhelmingly most americans cannot stand it except one group

00:42:47.600 progressive activists progressive activists the only ones that strongly back political correctness

00:42:59.080 and only 30 percent see it as a problem that's amazing i mean how is it ruling our society then

00:43:05.300 i know i mean i'll get on i mean it's not just progressive activists on twitter trying to get

00:43:09.440 everybody fired here's how it is the study found that progressive activists despite their obsession

00:43:14.200 with socialism their hatred of the patriarchy and disdain for the rich white men are overwhelmingly

00:43:19.400 rich white and overeducated men compared to the rest of the nationally representative polling sample

00:43:28.060 progressive activists are much more likely to be rich highly educated and white they are nearly twice

00:43:35.240 as likely uh as the average to make more than a hundred thousand dollars a year they are three times as

00:43:42.040 likely to have a postgraduate degree and while 12 percent of the over overall sample in the study is

00:43:48.040 african-american only three percent of progressive activists are african-american now where's the

00:43:57.200 diversity there the reason why twitter has so much power and such a left bias is because journalists

00:44:08.320 have become masterful at using it as a feedback loop journalists use it as a source a representation

00:44:16.000 of public opinion and twitter users who are overwhelmingly and disproportionately progressive

00:44:22.400 activists can enjoy a sense of power that they've clearly only dreamt of so it becomes this feedback loop

00:44:31.040 that's why what dave rubin is doing that's why what the blaze is doing that's why you know ben shapiro and

00:44:40.220 what he's doing and and stephen crowder and all of us it's why this is so important because twitter is not

00:44:49.300 real life it's not even represent representative of of the actual population you know what is it four percent of

00:44:58.900 all people on twitter uh are responsible for eighty percent of the tweets something like that maybe it

00:45:05.900 might even be two percent was it two percent okay it was two or four percent responsible for eighty percent

00:45:09.940 of the tweets and remember uh that is not that many people are on even on twitter i mean it rules the new

00:45:17.300 newscasts because it's easy for journalists it's a lazy journalism tool how do i get a quote about the story

00:45:23.020 i used to have to call i used to have to you know get in touch with somebody used to have to make you know

00:45:27.220 walk up to someone with a with a with a microphone now let's go to twitter what do they tweet about it

00:45:31.440 okay there it is pop it in the story so journalists love it it makes their lives a lot easier but i mean

00:45:36.820 it's a very small percentage of people who are even on twitter let alone following it closely and that's

00:45:41.700 what media is reflecting this is a a parabolic dish it's not a straight mirror it's a it's a it's a

00:45:50.960 distortion of reality it's a funhouse mirror because that is not reflective of the american people

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