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On this episode of the Glenn calls out the media for its lack of interest in vaccines and calls for a massive campaign to get the word out about how important it is to get people vaccinated. Plus, Glenn and Pat discuss the dangers of door-to-door vaccination and why the media should be doing more than just focusing on vaccinating the population.
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welcome to the podcast today hosted by pat gray stuber gear a host of pat gray unleashed and stew
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people about the show something quick something easy we appreciate it today on the podcast glenn is
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by the way back on monday we get into uh biden's continuing issues with his cognitive decline and
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how the media basically has made him a non-entity in in the news which is very strange andrew cuomo's
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daughter has come out as demisexual and if you don't know what that means you're a hate monger
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we we hate you everyone hates you but you're the hate monger somehow i can't remember i don't know
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exactly how that works but we will tell you what a demisexual is if you don't happen to know and we
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look at the war in afghanistan what's the right way to think about it and did we do the right thing
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sort of just in the cover of night leaving and leaving a giant airbase empty questionable pat what
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you said questionable okay okay good we did say good luck to him on the way out though good luck
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they didn't hear us because they were nowhere in the area because we didn't tell them we're leaving
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but that's probably okay that's that's fine maybe we left a note like a sticky note maybe hey good
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luck guys uh even though the taliban now has already a third of the country what could possibly go wrong
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here's the bucket you're listening to the best of the blend back program
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one quick point here on the vaccines and the fact that the media obviously doesn't care about getting
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people vaccinated yeah this door-to-door thing is ridiculous ridiculous and that's going to push
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people from away from the vaccine you show up at the door with a needle i'm sorry i don't know where
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that's been i don't want anything to do with it see you later yeah bye-bye now one thing you could do
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is i think and they don't they're not doing this so far but like you could just get the vaccines to
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people's doctors right one of the one of the issues like i had a friend who was thinking about
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getting the vaccine they hadn't gotten it yet and they went to a doctor's appointment and the doctor
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was like look you should get it like get the vaccine get it done i know it's annoying just get
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it done and they were like all right what do i need to do and what they needed to do was leave
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the doctor's office right and go on their phone and set up an appointment for four days later
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and then drive over right then right like just get it get it in the hands of the freaking doctors who
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people trust right like right you know their local doctor who's who's giving them the information
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that's one thing another thing you could do and this is more applicable to what we're talking about
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here which is if you actually care let's just say let's just come up with a mythical world
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where the priorities of the media and the government was to say we want this pandemic to be over and we
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want people to be vaccinated and the vaccines are great and we think this is the best thing that we
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can do yeah we're going to put that above everything we're not going to obviously it's bigger than
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politics right what you could do is have a uh a a concentrated effort to put a guy named donald trump
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on television yeah and all over the media to talk about how much the vaccines are a success story can
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you imagine what that would do yes it probably would make a big difference it would it would
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influence millions of people who are supporters of his and remind them that hey he's the one that
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got this going right it going through his it's his administration it's his accomplishment yes by
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the way not biden's donald trump got the vaccine yep i listened to donald trump on the clay travis and
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buck sexton show they're in the rush limbaugh time slot and they had the president of the united
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states on the air former uh former sorry i should say you're right former president of the united
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states and jeffy by the way thank you chewing the fat podcast joins us here just a believer i mean
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joe biden got more votes than anyone my friend he's the president of the united states of america
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but like you take the former president and and i was listening to him talk about the vaccines he
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sounds exactly the same way he did during the campaign a huge part of his his re-election campaign
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was hey we're getting these vaccines done and a huge part of his legacy is having gotten the
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vaccine done yeah in the time frame he said yes it would get done yeah which is incredible and as he
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pointed out again the entire media said it was impossible and he was lying about it right okay
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so let's just say like i know you have this ban on the president i know you can't bring him on when
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asking him about denouncing white supremacy or whatever weird thing you feel like you have to do
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every time he comes on how about don't do any of that how about have a nice softball interview
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where you say to donald trump hey guess what don it would work uh yes it would mr president you came
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up you were you were able to shepherd these think about this approach if cnn was on the air if if ever
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if all the news networks and and the president of the united states went and said you know what mr
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president we have a lot of disagreements but look you did an incredible thing here where you push
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these things through you were able to make a uh create an environment where things occurred that have
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never occurred in human history that you have wiped out uh with these vaccines we could wipe this
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pandemic off the planet and you're the guy who shepherded that process through instead what they've
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done is say there was no plan there was no plan at all we had no idea we came in here there's boxes
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of vaccines they didn't they were even going to be mailed like they just completely lied because they
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wanted to win politics more than they cared about whether people lived or died and they could that
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is the truth ignore everything that happened before and just say uh here's donald trump donald trump
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helped get this thing done and donald trump what do you think about the vaccines and he could just do
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it and they don't have to say anything about it they don't have to go backwards they don't have to
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talk about january 6th go forward they don't have to talk about what you just said that would never
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happen biden could never say that not in a million years it would not happen neither could one single soul
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on cnn they couldn't even bring themselves like let donald trump come in there and say you know
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what you guys lied about me the entire time and these vaccines were a success and you guys were wrong
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and let him say every terrible thing because obviously you care about people getting the vaccine
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about getting it right yeah you care about the fact so you know they don't you're gonna put the
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pandemic above your personal pride right guys except no they're not not a chance even consider it
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and you you played his you know we continue to play clips of joseph robinette biden struggling yes uh to
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say anything and i see where there's a new uh study done a new survey of a thousand likely voters
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from the convention of states and uh the trafalgo group 56.5 percent of american voters do not believe
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that president biden is fully executing his duties in office wow that's amazing okay 56
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and a half percent again of american voters you can't get to 56 and a half with just democrats
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guys no you can't you can't do that no you cannot no it's just just republicans so that's not just
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republicans saying yeah he's not fully executing it's that's democrats republicans independence
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i'd like to know because i'll bet you know there's a huge portion of uh i don't know you know
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there's a lot of jeffies out there who i don't know i don't know so what is it like 56.5 to 20
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to 19 who think he's fully executing his job his responsibility uh does it say 36.4 percent believe
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he is directing all policy and 36 that's higher than i would have guessed 31.7 percent democrat voters
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do not believe that's incredible i know wow i know that's you know eight you got 83.6 percent of
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republican voters that don't believe he's doing it i would say that's a little low yeah i mean that
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seems a little low and 58 a little over 58 percent of independent voters do not believe he's fully
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executing that's remarkable i mean and i don't see how you come to another conclusion other than you just
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you know you you're hoping you're a democrat you voted for him you're hoping right like or you just
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watch cnn which doesn't cover any of it you know you only that's true in your little sphere all you
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see is what reinforces your point of view and if that's what you do then you don't understand that
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the guy is in serious cognitive decline yeah i mean no question i mean he does not wearing his pants
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backwards uh like uh the previous president donald trump but he could barely been disproven by the way
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i mean he's just struggles every day and i would say that uh you know you talked about the notes in
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his in his jacket pocket being the same i don't know doesn't he carry the names of all the you know
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the names of dead soldiers and the oh that's what he claimed yeah the deaths of the coronavirus in the
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one pocket so he didn't seem to have that in either pocket though i don't know uh it seemed like the
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other note he didn't mention he didn't he didn't pull the first one out and go oh these are the
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numbers that i carry with me every day no no he did not mention that so it's probably the exact
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same note i'm sure it is sad also uh dreams do come true uh here as long as we're doing a little
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chewing the fat segment i want you to know dreams do come true michaela kennedy cuomo 23 came out on
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instagram and you know the daughter of your man you know you love him andrew cuomo andrew cuomo is
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awful dot com yes uh is his last name dot com i think it is it must be every time i hear andrew
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cuomo is his middle name and then dot com yeah andrew cuomo is awful dot com that's the way it
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works all right she uh she came out last month as queer but now really yeah now has declared
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herself uh demisexual wait hold on because i i thought also she had come out previously do you have
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the whole transition i do okay walk us through this because this is pretty interesting okay so
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in elementary school uh she feared that she was lesbian and that's the way she phrased it wait she
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feared i don't know why she feared it what kind of hate monger is this person yeah that is the way
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she phrased it she feared so you have to assume that i guess before that she was either straight
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or nothing right right she's a little kid elementary school so she hits elementary school and she's like
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oh my gosh i'm terrified i might be i might be lesbian okay right wow and a lot of kids in
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elementary school think in those terms a lot of kids are like i think i might be a lesbian
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happens all the time very common then in middle school middle she came out to family and close
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friends as bisexual okay so there's the third thing that she she is she's bisexual in elementary
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school then when she was in high school high school she discovered pansexuality okay pansexual
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she has sex with every that's the flag for me no i think pansexual if i understand it correctly
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and jeffy i know you'd probably be the expert on this but let me attempt it pansexual means that
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basically you don't care about whether it's a guy or a girl like you're just gonna like whatever
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whatever if you meet someone you like them you go for it you don't think about it you're not
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attracted to either one but that's almost anything right and now she recently learned it's not
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limited to just men or women i i think right right right but we're bisexual you're you're you're you
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are attracted to both yes pansexual is you're not necessarily attracted to either it's just you're
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just attracted to the the individual and you're not necessarily not attracted to everything either
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right so you might be attracted to absolutely everything or nothing or nothing or nothing or
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nothing you can't be pinned we should point out that a lot is queer yeah okay okay now what difference
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what is now she's demisexual demisexual which is high sexual what is demisexual that is uh people
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only feel sexually attracted to someone when they have an emotional bond i think this is interesting
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because i think i'm demisexual right i think i think demisexual is the way we're supposed to be
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right yes now i think like when you talk about sexual attraction i can look at uh you know some
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movie star and say wow she's hot right without having an emotional bond with her yes right or he
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in my i'm saying in my particular case okay i might say but like i i so you she's saying you can't be
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attracted visually you can only be attracted via emotional bond right so i it's not exactly the
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way that i think uh everybody is but it's a good element of a relationship i think now this is where
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her dreams have actually come true because she said in this interview that she has always dreamed
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of a world in which nobody will have to come out me too oh my gosh you guys i think the dream is
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that's my aspiration you've arrived you've arrived you don't have to worry about it anymore she claims
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that nobody has to come out because everybody's sexuality will be assumed fluid that's a different
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formulation in a world in the world that we live in now it force feeds cisgender heterosexuality
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coming out of the closet is a lifelong process of unpacking internalized social constructions and
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how many times have i said exactly the same thing how many times i can't if i've said it once
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you said well that's the time you said it but i haven't so no but if i had said it once
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this is why i keep hearing this mainly from the is that her the very warm uh videos produced by
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giant corporations like procter and gamble yeah who say like love is love let us give you a two
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minute pride video about that yes and at the end of one of these i watched last week it said like we
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just want to get to this point where we don't need to talk about this anymore we're just you know
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you've arrived congratulations you you know because they say like oh well we we wanted to come out
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and and then we realized people were going to be judging us and obviously that means evil
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conservatives like us right that would be judging us here's the thing we're not judging you we don't
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want to hear about it we don't need to hear about it you can do whatever you want to do on your own
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i don't want to hear word one about it and you've arrived at this incredible world you desire this
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oasis that you've been trying to get to this entire time where you just don't have to tell anybody
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about it we don't have to hear about it don't feel like you have to tell us we don't need to know
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i'm sorry if we if we conveyed to you that we wanted to hear about this stuff
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that's our mistake again we we don't i know we don't we never did dreams do come true
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by the way they do come true every day on chewing the fat with jeffy
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you're listening to the best of the glenn beck program
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raytheon another gigantic american corporation that is involved in uh critical race theory
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or crt as we call it for short and uh apparently they're they're taking their white employees to
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school so that's great that's great you could tell that the left is not enjoying the way this
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is playing out because they're doing all the typical things that people on the left do in
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these situations which is deny it's not really what we mean you're using the term incorrectly
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uh it's not really happening these things that you say are so bad when their former position was
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these things are not bad these are good yeah right now they're realizing the pushback i think from
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the american people they've run up against that wall a little bit with this stuff and so they're
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saying things like well it's not really critical race theory it's just intersectionality
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they're very closely related as we as we all know intersectionality essentially would be an
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element that is required to discuss critical race theory right well for instance have you
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confronted your privilege yet have you confronted it i have you have yep okay yeah and confronting it
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uh it ran the other way it did yeah it would so you don't have your privilege i don't i've
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chased it scared it away you scared it away yep that's how you do it when you confront it
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you just got to confront it come out from behind a door or something when it's walking it's like
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maybe it's on its phone yeah and then you jump out you make a really loud noise and it runs away
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oh okay and then you don't have any more privilege good all right that's how it works okay so you
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identified and scared away your privilege uh have you stepped aside for minority voices yet
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you need to step aside no no you haven't done that i'm not going to step aside really for anybody
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i'm going to uh well these minority voices though stew are more important than your own
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so so you kind of need to step aside for them understanding what we're doing is encouraging
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people to listen to to others based on their skin color yes now has there ever been
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an example of this being utilized and turned out poorly has there ever yes really there's many
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examples of that but we're ignoring those now oh we're going to ignore them yeah we're ignoring
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okay good yeah because i i had this idea and it's been sort of foundational to me for quite a long
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time which is never ever in your entire life make any decision based on skin color really never not
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once not even not even one time in your life should you make any decision based on skin color old
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think is what that is that's old think okay yeah not the appropriate way to go not appropriate anymore
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got it no and by the way we should point out raytheon is our second largest defense contractor
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yes they should be thinking about building giant missiles yes and planes but things that blow other
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things up focus on that that's really important the intersectionality should not be the focus of
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raytheon and why is it it's just so bizarre and we're supposed to reject according to raytheon
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in their program they're telling employees to reject the notion of equality and instead strive for equity
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yeah can you walk us through the difference between equality and equity stew sure again um as chris
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ruffo who was initially reported this as he seems to be doing all the time raytheon explicitly instructs
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employees to oppose equality defined as quote quote treating each person the same regardless of their
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differences right reject that yeah that's old again old think instead is strive for equity which
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quote focuses on the equality of the outcome end quote love that do you remember when like the
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conservative attack against the left wing philosophy was to say hey they there we all want equality we
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just want equality of opportunity they want equality of outcome and the left would be like what how dare
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you say that that's not true that's not what we want now they admit it now they admit it it's exactly
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what they want of course it's what they want and that's what equity is they this word which sounds
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like the other word but is not the other word equality and equity are different things big time
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and and so this is essentially marxism they're talking about because they want to guarantee the
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outcome so or at least theoretical marxism of course marxism in reality has no such thing as equality of
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outcome uh but except that everybody everybody comes out poorly everyone comes out poorly except
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for the ruling class which has a pretty sweet life yep uh certainly different groups ask the uyghurs
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if communism provides equality of outcome well you can't because they're in concentration oh yeah it's
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difficult to get to them at this point uh they're in thousands of concentration camps spread throughout the
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uh the country uh but yeah it does not actually provide such things but it is theoretically providing
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providing those things chris ruffo writes finally in a collection of recommended resources the company
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encourages white employees to quote defund the police and quote this is a defense contractor we
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should defund the police i love this also quote participate in reparations huh decolonize your bookshelf
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and something that i will personally guarantee that i will never ever in my life ever do
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quote join a local white space now what is a white space yeah it seems to be a collection of white
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people who talk about their whiteness that their whites why do i want to do that for example let
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me just give you a theoretically all talk about how bad you are as white people well talk about your
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whiteness and understand and think about your race all the time something like they used to have
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these groups uh people wore hoods to the meetings um and uh they were great i'm sure uh robert bird was
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a big member big proponent of local white spaces huh uh yeah that was uh something that uh that used
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to happen among democrats all the time and now they want to bring it back isn't that wonderful
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you know the democrats brought us the kkk and now we have local white spaces which are totally different
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than the kkk in that they're also white people getting together to talk about the race all the
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time i guess the fact that they're saying they're the bad race instead of another race being bad
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is some sort of improvement but i would say not a concept worth revisiting not a fixable one you know
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pat sometimes you get to the point where you're just like you know what let's not try it let's say
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fascism let's not remix it and see what we can come up with and try it again let's just skip it
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let's just rule it out kkk let's just rule it out let's just take it out let's not try to fix it
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let's not try to come up with a different way of doing a local white space let's get rid of them
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entirely sounds like the right approach to me yeah it does unbelievable and this is so constant right
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now raytheon again this is not i don't know to use some example like starbucks
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right like okay some left-wing organization some left-wing company i don't know some like
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organic you know uh by local hemp salesman you know coming up with an org with a with a
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with a seminar like this this is a freaking defense contractor yeah second largest in the in the
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country after lockheed martin uh it's pretty amazing now one thing you should stay away from
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first of all one thing you need to do pat i want to make sure we understand what you need to do
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what you need to stay away from you need to according to the raytheon internal documents
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you need to think about telling your think about telling your employees do this you have to quote
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identify everyone's race now your employees if they spend a minute trying to identify every other
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employees race what you should do with that employee is fire them immediately get them the hell out of
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your company if you have employees that are taking time out of your work day to figure out and like
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what document everyone's race pat has there ever been a historical example where a group of people
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documenting others race has turned out poorly has that ever gone the wrong way like if you want to
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make a giant list of people and try to figure out like i don't know what percentage black they are
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what percentage jewish they are but let's just say in a theoretical world could that turn out poorly
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oh wow i in the last 15 minutes i can't think of a situation like that if i was to go back maybe
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i don't know into the sort of early to mid last century i could possibly think of a place or two where
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maybe that occurred okay okay so there is maybe one but we shouldn't probably think about it and
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learn anything from it right no okay no uh how about um you must listen to the experience of
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marginalized identities and give those with such identities the floor on meetings or on calls even
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if it means silencing yourself so let's say you have a really good idea for a missile okay but i you
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know a um a mongolian person is in the room a mongolian american and they say you know what
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i as a mongolian american am oppressed i believe the missiles should be shot with slingshots
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let me have the floor for let's say an hour okay what you should do is silence yourself in your rocket
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propulsion propulsion technology and say you know we got to go slingshots because look they are a
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marginalized group and that's your job and that would be part of deconstructing my privilege
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wouldn't it it would really and understanding how white male behavior is devastating to racial
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minorities right and in that situation where you're you know you're you're suppressing your own idea for
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theirs why uh you've done a good thing there yeah there you go done a good thing and i think we
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could look at this at three different levels here pat right the level of like higher education
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university teaching should critical race theory be discussed like i don't want my kid necessarily i
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don't want to pay send my kid to a place where they're going to learn about that but you know
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what academic discussion whatever you can do whatever you want shouldn't be banned certainly
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although i wouldn't want to send my kid to a school that was doing it secondarily you have this
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level right raytheon companies what i want to work at a company what do i want to invest in a company
00:26:18.540
what i want to uh if i was running a company do this sort of nonsense and teach critical race
00:26:25.680
theory or something similar to it to my employees i would say absolutely not should it be banned
00:26:30.680
no i mean i think if raytheon wants to freaking waste their their people's time with this nonsense
00:26:36.760
i don't think you can ban it you know we live in a country where people should be able to do these
00:26:41.060
things if they want to however horrible idea the next level though is the one we're talking about
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more frequently which is should these be taught in public schools to k to 12 right and that should
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that be banned sure it should absolutely should not be taught uh to kids k to 12 and and so the
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the defense there from the left has been what this is what vox's framing of it was last week many
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republican lawmakers cite critical race theory as a reason to ban discussions about racism in schools
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first of all i've never heard that before i've never heard a republican say anything like that
00:27:14.680
no one says that they don't want to discuss racism in schools no one says they want to say you
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know what let's present slavery positively i've never i went through the whole school system in
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public schools never did i hear word one that racism was good never did i hear word one that uh
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that uh slavery was kind of a positive never taught but they say the way they frame it is republicans
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are trying to ban discussion of racism in schools which is not at all what's going on and then they
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say though there's little evidence that the framework of critical race theory is even being taught
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in k through 12 schools so it it's not a bad thing but even if it were being taught uh even if it
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were a bad thing it's not actually being taught in k to 12 schools here are two stories from just the
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past week the nation's largest teachers union has approved a plan to promote critical race theory in
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all 50 states and 14 000 local school districts i does that sound like a k to 12 problem does does to
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me ibram x kendi the guy who wrote anti-racist uh how to become an anti-racist and anti-racist baby
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he is scheduled to speak wednesday at the american federation of teachers teach conference
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this is absolutely a massive issue here and it should be thought about and it should be out of
00:28:38.140
our schools if we're going you want to have a you want to start your own private school where you teach
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kids a critical race theory and kids pay their own money to go to it and blah blah blah that is
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allowed in the united states of america even if we don't like it however public schools absolutely
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not and skates absolutely have the right to put standards on what is taught in the curriculum of
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their schools of course they do of course they do the federal government doesn't have much of a role
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in it but the state government does and the local governments do even more and the idea that this
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is just a non-issue because democrats find it to be unpopular and they realize they're on the wrong
00:29:14.040
side of the polls on it does not mean it goes away yeah 61 of americans don't want critical race
00:29:19.340
theory taught in their schools 61 you're listening to the best of the glenbeck program
00:29:28.560
so it's finally happened the pullout of afghanistan after a mere
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20 years i mean is it too soon i don't think so i don't think so either i don't think so are
00:29:57.200
are we and are we the last of the coalition to still be there the british aren't there anymore
00:30:02.300
no yeah they're gone they've been gone for a while uh so it's just us it is just us well it was just
00:30:08.340
us i mean it's basically done now now it's the afghans heard a report this morning they're going to
00:30:13.040
keep a few hundred troops in the country mainly to protect the embassy you know which is sensible
00:30:20.180
right like if you have an embassy there with in a country if you're not going to keep them there
00:30:24.980
then you move the embassy you move the people out of the end yeah you just abandon the country all
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entirely but if you're going to have an embassy there you should have troops there to protect the
00:30:33.360
people in it so we left the other day uh our our troops left bagram air air base uh basically in
00:30:41.860
the middle of the night and didn't tell the afghans that we were leaving so a group of people went in
00:30:48.740
and looted the place yep before the afghans got in there which is great now this is great a 14 square
00:30:54.880
mile air force base yes gigantic area uh and you know so they i guess what i guess what happened was
00:31:04.420
there were some rumors that were going to be i mean we all they they presented this in the media
00:31:09.060
they're like well ahead of schedule well trump had it scheduled for my for may so july would not be
00:31:17.900
ahead of schedule biden just said he just changed the schedule to september and then left in july
00:31:24.360
after the initial scheduling so like he this is how the how the left gets away with this crap with
00:31:30.240
the media i i'll never i'll never understand but i guess when you have someone who you're rooting for
00:31:36.700
it's a lot easier to justify such things but basically there were the rumor that they were
00:31:40.960
going to be leaving they just turned the lights out and everyone was like wait why did all the
00:31:44.220
lights go off over there we should just go over there and and see what's going on realize nobody was
00:31:48.980
there and there's like photos of people like carrying off cases of like red bull full you know like
00:31:53.940
energy drinks and stuff right bizarre bizarre circumstance and it's hard to imagine that
00:31:59.560
this turns out well yeah the the problem is the taliban will probably now just retake afghanistan
00:32:08.840
right that's what i expect to happen is that terrorists will just get back together and uh reclaim
00:32:15.620
reclaim reclaim reclaim the country but what would you do just stay there forever what's the alternative
00:32:23.440
yeah if you don't pull out and you we don't ever come home um and we leave troops there forever it
00:32:31.300
we probably could keep the taliban at bay but when you leave what can you do there's all sorts of
00:32:38.620
reporting where afghan troops are handing over weapons to the taliban the taliban now supposedly
00:32:45.120
but the best estimates are they control one-third of the country already as we're leaving i mean we've
00:32:51.880
basically just given up on this and and look you can make the argument that our mission should have
00:32:56.520
been more narrow and that mission was accomplished right i mean uh you know osama bin laden is dead
00:33:02.680
uh the al-qaeda is not really the force that it once was but you know our our mission was that was
00:33:09.120
the goal we could have left in 2011 yeah or a lot you know i mean osama bin laden specifically as an
00:33:17.340
individual was 2011 but i mean there was a massive damage to al-qaeda generally well before that yes uh i do
00:33:24.920
hesitate at times with this idea that we should judge a war by how long it goes on for you know
00:33:34.840
like first of all this has not been a war in the way that we think of warfare for a long time that's
00:33:43.900
true you mentioned earlier that is true pat late last hour that 13 people per year die from getting
00:33:50.880
hit by vending machines vending machines that fall over yeah right well in 2020 11 people died in
00:33:58.460
afghanistan for 11 11 less than the amount of people who die from vending machines falling over them
00:34:05.080
in the united states not to minimize of course the loss of our totally i mean like but i mean when you
00:34:11.180
look at the deaths that occurred several of them were motor vehicle accidents oh wow right uh there were
00:34:18.120
some that were attacked some of them were um attacks by afghan troops yeah that's the toughest
00:34:24.160
to take that's the toughest to take for sure i'm not saying any of these don't uh aren't crucial but
00:34:31.160
i mean like here we go non-hostile vehicle accident non-hostile incident non-hostile vehicle accident
00:34:37.800
rollover non-hostile non-hostile five yep um there here's a hostile hostile fire smart small arms file
00:34:45.700
green on green on green on blue attack so that was a by an afghan afghan right a troop yep same thing
00:34:52.140
for the next one um then a non-hostile aircraft crash six non-hostile aircraft cash uh crash and
00:35:00.280
then hostile fire ied attack so when you think about the four of them a traditional warfare attack
00:35:06.140
i'd say you would say one right i mean you wouldn't necessarily think off the top of your head of a
00:35:12.400
green on blue type of attack right but but you have to count all of these count obviously and you
00:35:17.660
know if you have a kid over there who died in an aircraft crash you're not going to feel any better
00:35:22.300
about it but that stuff happens in the united states yeah and we have aircraft crashes from military test
00:35:27.300
pilots in the united states that happen that's not to say that it's nothing it's something and i look we
00:35:33.840
have to at some point even if it's just for spending right reasons like you know you can't just spend
00:35:39.360
money maintaining another country forever but like to think of this as everyone's like this is
00:35:45.300
america's forever war i i can you look at a year like 2020 and say okay that's a war year remember
00:35:52.780
what's the what's the alternative of war what we used to do in war was yes the wars would end in three
00:35:59.100
to five years because hundreds of thousands if not millions of people were dead yeah you you fought
00:36:05.220
them full bore full on it was it it was uh it was just warfare yeah all the time it wasn't like okay
00:36:16.320
we're gonna we're gonna take this country and we're gonna maintain it yeah and then we're gonna we're
00:36:20.500
gonna get attacked every once in a while that's that's not what's i mean that's what's been happening
00:36:25.720
in afghanistan yeah for what 10 and 10 years at least maybe more than that i mean if you look at
00:36:32.760
the fatalities u.s fatalities in afghanistan really uh you had a peak the highest number was 2010 at
00:36:41.940
498 now again 498 was 10 minutes of a battle of previous wars yeah as sad as all of this is and
00:36:50.560
every loss of life is incredibly i mean you don't have to i don't have to sell this audience on the
00:36:55.160
fact that i you know we all care about our military members but war has changed in a way
00:37:01.800
that i think is positive even though you know there's not there's no longer necessarily these
00:37:09.380
days where you walk away with the parades and everything else i mean 498 was the peak in 2010
00:37:14.460
then it went to 415 310 128 and it's been under 100 since 2015 or 14 it was 55 22 then 13 15 14 24 11
00:37:24.400
then that was 2020 was 11 now again i went through those 11 only one of them is what you would think
00:37:31.000
traditionally of a of a war death a couple of others from friend allies that should have been
00:37:37.960
helping us and turned on us a couple of those that was it was three and the rest were non-hostile
00:37:42.040
events where you know car crashes airplane crashes things that were terrible but also not what you would
00:37:48.660
think of as a traditional war death um there did you happen to read the uh the latest malcolm
00:37:54.640
gladwell book of the bomber mafia by any chance it's really good i mean it's really really well
00:37:59.800
done and i like malcolm's stuff i mean it's always interesting to me but this is about basically the
00:38:04.380
idea of early the early air force where they decided we they their vision of what war could become
00:38:10.860
where they would drop guided bombs not just bombs that plastered an entire you know just denigrated an
00:38:17.600
entire civilian population without thinking about it their vision of trying to create the technology
00:38:22.120
that would allow us to target the military installations we wanted to hit and not just
00:38:26.800
carpet bomb societies and the one of the main proponents of this was in world war ii and was
00:38:34.260
and got to the point where he was leading the operations against japan from the air and eventually
00:38:42.160
lost his gig because they the technology wasn't really ready they didn't really have it ready and
00:38:47.080
they wound up changing to carpet bombing basically but you realize that like you know when we think
00:38:53.260
of japan obviously in world war ii we think of the atomic bomb so much was done with essentially napalm
00:38:59.860
type devices fire bombing uh these places because the way their their homes were built were very
00:39:05.780
vulnerable to fire and they were very close to each other and we were just you know dropping and there
00:39:10.620
was a lot of that during vietnam to clear away the jungle yeah exactly so but they were doing it to
00:39:15.800
clear away you know communities and how cities and and i'm not questioning these tactics in that like
00:39:21.640
this war needed to end and i'm glad that we dropped the atomic bomb i'm not like anybody who thinks the
00:39:26.860
opposite of that but like that was the the choice at the time it was like do you essentially kill a
00:39:33.860
hundred thousand people tonight in their homes essentially the equivalent of what we saw in miami right where
00:39:39.820
the entire building just catches on fire or collapses and everyone in it dies and do you do this over
00:39:46.540
multiple square miles every night for a year that was warfare yeah look afghanistan is is a different
00:39:54.460
situation and to sit here and say like you look at these years years do you have the total from the
00:40:00.120
the whole war it's something like four or five thousand right two thousand four hundred fifty two two thousand
00:40:05.900
that does not include this year by the way i have only up till 2020 here but 2452 now it's i think
00:40:11.120
the number you're thinking of is 3596 which was total coalition deaths uh so that includes the uk and
00:40:17.780
other 455 from the uk 689 total in all the other countries combined um iraq was 4910 total coalition
00:40:26.440
4586 u.s but again even iraq you look at iraq this is uh since 2012 2012 there was two deaths
00:40:34.920
for for the u.s 2004 i'm missing 2013 on my chart here but 2014 4 then 8 20 22 17 12 11 and again you
00:40:45.300
look at the details to them and many of them are the same sad situations vehicle accidents uh rollovers
00:40:51.440
uh non-hostile uh there are some that are hostile i mean these are still dangerous areas for sure but
00:40:58.560
i think judging a war what we should look at when we judge a war should be of course the
00:41:04.640
outcome did we stop people attacking us if that's why we went to war which in afghanistan i would
00:41:10.320
argue that was the reason we went and we stopped that and when we've seemed to accomplish interrupted
00:41:15.460
a lot of it and also the main thing is how many the most important thing to me is how many of our
00:41:20.720
service people do we lose not how long the war goes on yeah look the it's uncomfortable to say and
00:41:27.060
this is true that people who fought in who went to uh afghanistan after 9 11 have children who are now
00:41:34.840
serving in afghanistan or very recently it's hard to think in those terms but the fact if we could
00:41:40.300
return both of those people back here that's much more important than the timeline oh yeah and we have
00:41:47.080
changed warfare i mean people are dying a lot less in wars and that is good uh it is as much it's no
00:41:54.020
longer the the the uh the drain on human life that it once was at least not at the moment we can take