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00:00:06.200 Welcome to the Glenn Beck Podcast. It's Stu. Glenn's here as well. We're talking about today's program that's about to be listened to by you, which we thank you for.

00:00:15.300 I don't know. I hope it's a challenging one a little bit today. Glenn goes through a really interesting point on the Cohen thing, and we spent a lot of time on that today.

00:00:22.740 I hope this is a one-day thing for us, honestly. I don't want to continue to do it every day, but it's the big story.

00:00:27.380 Cohen, Glenn kind of goes through his analogy of why people are supporting Trump through this, why they look at the accusations and maybe differently than the media thinks they should.

00:00:40.340 I think there's two main things that the podcast should cover today, and that is what happened and understanding O.J. Simpson and seeing how that played out and why people were cheering for O.J. Simpson when they knew he was a killer, but they denied it at the time.

00:00:57.380 Now, polls show they don't. And also, you know, the beehive or the hornet's nest on your front porch, and Trump being the guy with a broomstick poking it, trying to make it fall down.

00:01:13.340 We'll go through that right here at the start of the show. Also, we'll go into the Asia Argento thing.

00:01:18.100 This is a mess, and there's all sorts of stuff going on in the Me Too movement and one of its founders.

00:01:23.020 And we talked to Arthur Herman, a historian, kind of looking back at the historical precedents for this type of thing.

00:01:32.900 And he was pretty, I think, really saw it through the lens of Trump getting a raw deal as far as through the media and the way that that has been handled.

00:01:45.300 Yeah, and a very optimistic look at our future because he knows history.

00:01:50.840 Also, real quick, I just want to promote tomorrow's podcast.

00:01:53.800 We are talking to one of the farmers, in fact, the first farmer in South Africa that has lost his farm or is in the process of losing his farm.

00:02:01.960 He's going to give us a report on what's happening in South Africa.

00:02:04.940 That's on tomorrow's podcast.

00:02:06.540 But let's focus on today.

00:02:08.780 Here's the podcast.

00:02:09.320 I want to talk to you about what happened in Washington yesterday and what's happening with the press and what's happening with America.

00:02:30.660 But I need you to listen because this is a nuanced conversation.

00:02:37.080 Um, because this is, this is not a, uh, I'm all on board with one thing or I'm all on board for the other.

00:02:48.380 This is not all black and white and it is certainly not all one topic.

00:02:54.920 So I want to talk to you about what happened with the two convictions, uh, yesterday, uh, and the way the Trump, uh, uh, media is handling it, the way the left media is happening, handling it, why it matters or doesn't matter.

00:03:13.700 So let me start here.

00:03:15.220 First of all, Stu, help me out if I'm missing anybody.

00:03:19.260 Uh, Bannon, Flynn, Lewandowski, Cohen, Manafort, Roger Stone, all people we said, these are not the best people.

00:03:29.780 This is, this is going to, you want impeachment.

00:03:34.020 Forget about Hillary Clinton impeachment.

00:03:36.440 They will never impeach her, but they will impeach Donald Trump because these people are dirty.

00:03:43.000 It's certainly throw Omarosa in that mix.

00:03:46.500 Yeah.

00:03:46.780 Uh, as well.

00:03:47.780 Yeah.

00:03:48.040 But yeah, that's a, that's a good, good rundown.

00:03:49.600 These are the people that we warned against.

00:03:51.620 And we said there will be impeachment hearings because of the people he's surrounding himself with Manafort in particular.

00:04:00.680 But let's start with Cohen.

00:04:03.000 We knew who he was and I wasn't comfortable with a president who had somebody known as a quote fixer.

00:04:10.760 That's not a normal thing to have.

00:04:14.700 That is something that you might have if you are used to really hardball politics in a dirty city like New York.

00:04:23.100 You might need a fixer.

00:04:24.720 Now, we played audio of him before, way before the election of the way he handled people and the way he handled the press.

00:04:33.920 He's a dirty, awful guy.

00:04:37.060 Really bad.

00:04:38.000 Would not be counted as a friend of mine by any stretch of the imagination.

00:04:42.780 I wouldn't want to be at a party with this guy.

00:04:48.000 We know he plays dirty.

00:04:50.580 We know he did what he's being accused of.

00:04:54.640 He's now admitted it.

00:04:56.680 And the president knew.

00:04:59.780 And we know that.

00:05:00.860 I think it's, you know, let's not be the Democrats who were, you know, with Bill Clinton.

00:05:09.980 When Bill Clinton was in office, we all knew he was a dog.

00:05:13.960 There was a chance that maybe he had a turning point because he went on 60 minutes and he said, I've had this epiphany and this turning point in my life.

00:05:24.040 And, you know, we've already talked about it and we're just trying to heal our marriage.

00:05:28.080 And so there was a point where I'm like, okay, let's give the guy the benefit of the doubt.

00:05:31.660 As we now know, that was not, that was just, that was politics.

00:05:34.840 That was just a show.

00:05:36.400 Okay.

00:05:36.800 We know, we knew and the Democrats knew that that's who he was and they didn't care.

00:05:45.900 Now, are we going to care about Cohen?

00:05:50.160 Does it matter?

00:05:52.060 It does to me.

00:05:54.500 It does to me that Cohen goes to jail.

00:05:57.560 It does to me if the president colluded and broke the law, it does matter to me.

00:06:04.620 But, does it matter today?

00:06:10.880 In reality, in the world we're living in?

00:06:13.920 No.

00:06:14.980 And I'll explain why in a minute.

00:06:19.020 First of all, would Bush have been impeached for this crime?

00:06:27.400 Yes.

00:06:29.440 Would Clinton?

00:06:31.820 Maybe.

00:06:33.140 Would Obama?

00:06:33.900 Definitely not.

00:06:36.960 Would, uh, would, will Trump?

00:06:41.220 Call me the day after the election and I'll let you know.

00:06:45.400 It's, it's who controls the House.

00:06:48.160 If the Democrats control the House, they will impeach him.

00:06:51.220 But he will not be convicted because the Republicans control the Senate.

00:06:56.680 That's just the way it is.

00:06:58.400 It's really important to understand that America is not the same.

00:07:05.180 Basically, you cannot indict a sitting president.

00:07:09.360 An indictment for the sitting president is impeachment.

00:07:12.560 Okay?

00:07:12.800 That does not mean you're removed from office.

00:07:15.760 It first goes to the House and they issue their indictment, which is an impeachment, impeachment papers, which says, you have to show up for this trial because we think you're guilty of something.

00:07:26.940 And then the trial is held in the Senate.

00:07:28.780 The president basically, if he wasn't the president, would be a, would be labeled today a unindicted co-conspirator.

00:07:39.400 Okay, now, let's take that and set it off to the side because it has nothing to do with Russia.

00:07:50.320 It has nothing to do with the Russian investigation.

00:07:53.160 It has nothing to do with collusion.

00:07:55.400 On that part, the president is right.

00:07:58.320 It has nothing to do with that.

00:08:01.500 It has everything to do with who this president is and who he is surrounded by.

00:08:12.000 But let's separate that from Russia.

00:08:15.160 What Cohen is convicted of or about to be convicted of is paying off two women to influence the election at the request of the president.

00:08:24.980 Something that the president and Cohen both denied.

00:08:28.520 Now, if he had proof that the president colluded, you can bet that the, the prosecutors would have given him a plea deal to, uh, to testify against the president because that's a pretty big deal.

00:08:46.240 But he has no credibility.

00:08:48.640 Now, the press is making this into a big deal.

00:08:50.900 Well, look, he, he, he didn't even make a plea deal.

00:08:54.120 He didn't even make a plea deal.

00:08:55.800 And he, he fingered the president.

00:08:57.760 Yeah, but is anybody going to believe it?

00:09:01.160 Was he lying then or is he lying now?

00:09:03.600 He has no credibility and obviously no, uh, nothing to back that up.

00:09:10.080 No evidence.

00:09:11.400 Or I'm guessing he would have gotten a plea deal.

00:09:16.420 So we know we can't take his word for it.

00:09:19.780 But it does matter.

00:09:26.520 Manafort also has nothing to do with Russia.

00:09:31.260 It has nothing to do with collusion.

00:09:33.380 On this, the president and the White House are right.

00:09:35.980 The best thing the president can do.

00:09:38.440 And if I were advising the president, I would say, make sure that you give another speech today where you're not praising Manafort.

00:09:47.420 Give a speech to say, look, none of this happened.

00:09:50.920 What he was convicted of, none of it happened while he was with me.

00:09:54.280 Hey, this is all happening beforehand.

00:09:58.800 I guess there were some people who said, hey, don't hire Paul Manafort.

00:10:02.740 He's a really bad guy.

00:10:04.180 But I didn't listen to them and I hired him.

00:10:06.880 But I promptly fired him as well.

00:10:09.800 So, none of this has anything to do.

00:10:14.440 He colluded with Russia, but before Trump and his collusion with Russia was to enslave the Ukraine.

00:10:22.880 He's very corrupt.

00:10:25.580 So was Roger Stone.

00:10:27.440 They were partners.

00:10:29.220 Clearly guilty.

00:10:31.020 And he is not a good guy.

00:10:34.040 Now, here's where this is going to get dicey.

00:10:36.320 There's speculation.

00:10:38.780 And again, speculation.

00:10:40.380 So why are we even talking about it?

00:10:43.340 Because I think we need to be clear on what's happening.

00:10:47.920 There's speculation that Trump might pardon Manafort.

00:10:53.020 If he does on these particular charges that have nothing to do with Donald Trump, nothing to do with the election.

00:11:01.360 This is not a witch hunt.

00:11:02.980 This guy is a bad guy.

00:11:04.520 It's wrong.

00:11:08.360 And we'll have to deal with that with the president if, indeed, he does it.

00:11:13.480 But to pardon Manafort would be a gigantic mistake.

00:11:18.920 Now, can you make the case that this is a witch hunt?

00:11:22.360 Yeah.

00:11:22.900 If it wasn't Donald Trump, he probably, if he was working for Hillary Clinton, he'd be a free man today.

00:11:28.900 We know that.

00:11:29.860 But that's a different topic.

00:11:31.700 So, what we know, none of this from Manafort involves Trump or candidate Trump involved in Russia at all.

00:11:45.960 So, here's why it should matter, but it won't.

00:11:52.460 Our president, no matter who they are, needs good, honest people around him.

00:12:01.160 I think he has gotten rid of all of the bad people pretty quickly.

00:12:05.860 They have imploded on him.

00:12:08.620 But he needs good, honest people, and we need transparency.

00:12:12.760 I make the same case that I made against Van Jones.

00:12:16.400 Look, I don't have a vendetta against Van Jones.

00:12:19.880 I didn't even want Van Jones fired.

00:12:22.180 I wanted an explanation.

00:12:24.180 Did you knowingly hire a communist?

00:12:27.380 If so, what does that say about you and your philosophy and your Marxist tendencies?

00:12:34.300 The White House didn't want to answer those questions, so they instead fired Van Jones.

00:12:39.780 That's a problem.

00:12:41.480 We need transparency.

00:12:42.940 That's what America is really looking for when it comes to politicians.

00:12:48.900 If you're paying hush money before a campaign, people should know about it.

00:12:55.920 Now, we're living in a world where truth doesn't really matter anymore.

00:12:59.980 Look at Rose McGowan and Asia Argento.

00:13:03.920 You know that Asia admitted finally yesterday that, yes, okay, I did sleep with that 17-year-old.

00:13:10.060 Well, that's against the law, and you just spent all this time denying it, blaming it on your dead boyfriend.

00:13:19.360 Are you kidding me?

00:13:21.500 Is she going to be held to the same standard as anybody else?

00:13:25.280 No, probably not.

00:13:28.200 That's the problem.

00:13:29.420 The problem is we don't trust anyone.

00:13:35.360 Republicans for a long time, and I speak to the left here because I need you to understand.

00:13:41.160 Republicans feel as though, and I believe it was fairly true, that we kept putting up Boy Scouts.

00:13:49.160 I mean, look at George Bush, a frickin' Boy Scout, okay, an Eagle Scout.

00:13:57.360 If he wasn't the stereotypical Eagle Scout, I promise to do my duty and do the best of whatever that I can't even remember it anymore,

00:14:06.460 to do my duty on my honor for God and my country.

00:14:09.620 That's who he was, and look, they made him into, you know, Darth Vader, the worst human ever to live.

00:14:19.620 Same thing with Mitt Romney.

00:14:22.840 Mitt Romney is literally an Eagle Scout, and look what they made Mitt Romney.

00:14:28.440 He was the devil.

00:14:30.980 He was the most giving, honest, decent guy.

00:14:34.800 I disagree with him, but you cannot say that this guy's character was flawed the way they tried to make it out to be,

00:14:43.720 that he was some greedy, rich guy.

00:14:45.520 He's the exact opposite of that.

00:14:48.120 So the Republicans felt like we're playing by the rules, but you're not.

00:14:52.880 You won't accept anybody.

00:14:55.140 I mean, they're against Mike Pence.

00:14:56.520 Mike Pence is worse than Donald Trump.

00:14:58.420 Wait a minute.

00:14:58.940 You just said Donald Trump is the worst human being ever to live.

00:15:02.740 He's a Nazi.

00:15:04.340 He's a white supremacist.

00:15:05.960 How bad does Mike Pence have to be to be worse than that?

00:15:11.140 But that's the way they treat everything.

00:15:14.460 Also, Republicans felt like we had to play by the rules, and the Democrats didn't.

00:15:22.260 The IRS scandal.

00:15:24.020 Can you imagine if Donald Trump was doing this, using the IRS to target Democrats?

00:15:29.740 Do you think the press would be all over it?

00:15:33.700 Do you think if the president came out and said, hey, you know, that really bad thing that happened where all those people died,

00:15:41.340 including an ambassador, that was caused by a film?

00:15:45.080 And he had the national security advisor and the secretary of state do the same lie,

00:15:52.340 and it was all documented that they changed this story?

00:15:55.440 Do you really think the press wouldn't care?

00:15:58.820 Do you think Benghazi would have been treated differently if it were Donald Trump?

00:16:03.620 Yes, of course.

00:16:07.760 We don't believe the people in the beltway.

00:16:10.400 We don't try to trust the other guy's president.

00:16:14.080 We don't trust the press.

00:16:15.860 My father said to me, when I was very little and Nixon resigned,

00:16:26.680 my father said, kind of to himself, and I heard it as we were watching that resignation,

00:16:33.240 my father said, this is bullcrap.

00:16:37.140 And I just looked at him, and he said, they all do it.

00:16:40.400 He just got caught.

00:16:41.840 Man, that felt wrong.

00:16:42.900 I don't want my president.

00:16:44.540 I don't want all the presidents to do wrong things and get away with it.

00:16:48.820 But that has changed now.

00:16:51.780 Now it is they all do it, but the press only cares about when one side does it.

00:17:00.240 To me, that's worse.

00:17:02.880 That's worse.

00:17:04.280 And it's getting worse.

00:17:07.180 And I want to give you some examples because it's important for the left to understand

00:17:12.360 why this won't matter to so many people on the right.

00:17:18.100 And until you understand this, it's only going to get worse.

00:17:23.920 In the next 15 minutes, I'm going to explain to you and explain to the left and the media

00:17:30.380 exactly why you can't figure out half of America, why you don't understand it.

00:17:39.500 And for you, anybody who's on the right, what's really going on?

00:17:45.960 Why you don't necessarily understand what's going on.

00:17:49.680 Uh, when we come to a recognition of the game that we all are playing and what our goals

00:17:56.280 really are, then we could possibly break through some of this crap, but it's getting worse.

00:18:03.980 We don't trust the people in Washington.

00:18:06.360 And so let's look at it this way.

00:18:11.560 You have a big hornet's nest on your porch and you don't have any raid.

00:18:18.100 You don't have any, any way to, to, uh, to kill these things.

00:18:22.500 And they are just swarming in.

00:18:24.360 The front door is the only door you have in the house.

00:18:26.340 You got to do something.

00:18:27.520 At some point, if you'd have no other choice, somebody says, just give me a broomstick.

00:18:35.560 And you're like, no, no, no.

00:18:36.400 That's a really bad idea.

00:18:37.880 Then they'll swarm you and it'll be really bad.

00:18:40.380 Don't do it.

00:18:40.960 Well, we got to do something because we can't live like this with the, with the hornet's

00:18:45.000 nest.

00:18:45.320 They're building it right at the door.

00:18:47.120 Every time we go in, somebody is going to get stung.

00:18:49.540 We can't live this way.

00:18:50.840 Give me the broomstick.

00:18:51.780 No, don't do that.

00:18:52.960 That that's chaos.

00:18:54.340 That's really bad.

00:18:56.360 You got a better choice.

00:18:57.520 All right.

00:19:00.520 Here's a broomstick, right?

00:19:02.860 That's what's happening to us.

00:19:06.120 Donald Trump is the guy who said, just give me a stick.

00:19:09.500 Just give me the broomstick.

00:19:11.120 I'll take care of it.

00:19:13.080 We know we can't live this way.

00:19:16.580 No one is willing to call the exterminator or get a can of raid because everybody's in

00:19:22.620 with the hornet's nest.

00:19:24.080 Everyone, everyone's profiting off of this giant hornet's condominium and it will eventually

00:19:32.080 go so far that the people who are living in the house are going to be told, you know what?

00:19:39.080 You're just living in the wrong house.

00:19:40.420 This house belongs really to the hornets.

00:19:42.840 They've built their nest right here and they're natural and they're really more important than you are.

00:19:50.320 When you know that that's the direction of the people around you, you do say, here, I've got an idea.

00:20:02.700 You're crazy enough.

00:20:04.260 I'm going to get you a broomstick.

00:20:07.660 Go out and hit that thing a few times.

00:20:10.700 Okay?

00:20:11.180 And if somebody is nuts enough to do it, I'm okay with it.

00:20:16.100 I'm not going to do it.

00:20:17.640 But he will.

00:20:20.060 That's where we are.

00:20:22.080 That's where we are.

00:20:23.280 And I want to make the case of the hornet's nest as our option.

00:20:31.280 The reason why Donald Trump is on the front porch doing something crazy with a stick.

00:20:38.120 It's not because we like it.

00:20:41.980 It's because we feel we have no other option.

00:20:45.480 So the press will not understand why it doesn't matter to the right, the news yesterday that came out, why it doesn't matter and why, how can people be standing with Donald Trump?

00:20:57.740 They don't understand it because they refuse to look at the entire picture.

00:21:03.620 Half of this country feels like they not only haven't been listened to, but they have been mocked and ridiculed for a very long time.

00:21:10.940 They've been called stupid, uneducated.

00:21:12.480 They have been called dangerous, anti-government, all kinds of names.

00:21:21.840 We have been played over and over and over again.

00:21:27.640 And people are done because they're seeing this hornet's nest on our front porch.

00:21:33.980 And they're seeing this hornet's nest and it involves the economy, economics, bailouts, a growing welfare state, the fundamental transformation of America, the ignoring of terrorists.

00:21:50.260 Do you know that the do you know that the police went in and they demolished the the death site or the the training camp in New Mexico?

00:22:00.220 Do you know that that's been demolished now? Have you ever heard of a crime scene being demolished?

00:22:05.460 Very strange.

00:22:06.580 Very strange.

00:22:08.100 Very strange.

00:22:09.320 So people people know that our way of even thinking is under attack.

00:22:16.080 Lest I remind you of yesterday's program where we talked about what was it?

00:22:23.140 Frolls?

00:22:24.260 No, front holes.

00:22:25.340 Frolls, beholds.

00:22:25.940 Yeah.

00:22:26.920 Vaginas.

00:22:27.720 Yes.

00:22:28.160 Frenuses.

00:22:29.200 Where we have to change our language on everything.

00:22:32.600 We're seeing this fundamental transformation.

00:22:36.760 Antifa is being held up by CNN and others.

00:22:40.180 Cuomo saying, you know, hey, they're in the right.

00:22:42.760 They're morally.

00:22:43.220 Let me tell you something, as Facebook is taking people down because of threatening language.

00:22:49.460 Let me read this.

00:22:50.820 This is from the Austin Antifa.

00:22:54.200 We encourage the formation of a paramilitary organization on two levels, first being those

00:23:00.780 who are mainly unarmed, but are prepared and trained to carry out fist fighting or using

00:23:05.700 blunt weapons like axe handles or flagpoles, as well as shields and basic armoring.

00:23:11.580 The second level is more advanced embryo of a Red Army, which is trained militarily and

00:23:17.480 operates as soldiers all the time, engaging in production and mass work among the proletariat

00:23:22.840 and oppressed nations people.

00:23:24.980 It is time for Austin to stand up, shake the bad leadership trying to impose itself on anti-fascism

00:23:30.840 and come together under a better model of actual resistance and not token performance.

00:23:36.240 When we organize and lead actions, the fascists do not march.

00:23:40.700 Every step they take is met with physical confrontation, and they are bombarded from all sides.

00:23:47.200 On the basis of our principled, united front work, fascists and their collaborators can be drowned out,

00:23:55.720 run out, routed, beaten, bloody, and even annihilated.

00:24:00.960 These are our principles, and we hold them true, and we aim to hold them to the very finish.

00:24:10.420 That's the Facebook page of Austin Antifa.

00:24:16.220 Now, if Facebook were consistent and actually believed in what they were saying, these guys would not be on here.

00:24:26.000 Antifa would be known, what it is, to the federal government, as a domestic terror group.

00:24:33.960 But instead, they're being excused.

00:24:39.200 The media will not call people out on both sides fairly.

00:24:44.540 And one side is tired of playing by the rules because the other side hasn't played by them for a long time.

00:24:50.700 We didn't understand it.

00:24:51.780 We didn't understand progressivism.

00:24:53.080 And our problem now is, we don't understand progressivism is even a thing of the past.

00:24:57.120 We are now in the postmodern era, which changes all the rules.

00:25:00.820 But Americans are fair.

00:25:03.660 But because they don't understand postmodernism, they don't understand why fairness doesn't work.

00:25:10.220 And so we are losing that trait.

00:25:13.240 The O.J. Simpson trial is a great example.

00:25:15.860 If you were white, you didn't understand how people could stand on the sidewalk and cheer for a killer, a guy who was clearly a killer.

00:25:25.660 Because it had nothing to do with O.J. Simpson.

00:25:28.280 Just like all of this has nothing to do with Donald Trump, has nothing to do with him.

00:25:32.540 It has everything to do with someone coming up on the porch with that stick and the hornet's nest.

00:25:40.340 O.J. Simpson beat the system that African-Americans said had oppressed them forever.

00:25:47.900 He beat the system.

00:25:49.760 That's what they were cheering.

00:25:51.260 Not him.

00:25:52.980 And they'll admit that now.

00:25:54.840 Unfortunately, history comes back and does not look at people who make decisions like that kindly, fondly.

00:26:04.020 We don't remember that as a good thing.

00:26:06.340 We can understand it, but it wasn't a good thing.

00:26:11.280 Donald Trump, I believe, would not have been elected had the Democrats been running a clean candidate who was a blue dog candidate.

00:26:21.820 But right now, Americans see our government officials and our media siding with Antifa, appearing to side with terrorists.

00:26:37.660 They don't have a problem with the border.

00:26:41.680 And yet, again, last night, Molly Tibbetts, we find that here's an illegal alien that came into the country illegally.

00:26:51.820 Does that make all illegal immigrants killers?

00:26:55.280 No.

00:26:56.020 But here's a guy who shouldn't have been here.

00:26:58.340 Molly Tibbetts would be alive today if we had a secure border.

00:27:02.660 And it happens over and over again.

00:27:04.760 And the media doesn't care.

00:27:07.080 Instead, they'll hold town halls on the Second Amendment.

00:27:13.160 We're not talking a welfare state anymore.

00:27:16.320 Democrats and the media are now talking about democratic socialism.

00:27:21.580 That is not what's happening in Sweden and Denmark.

00:27:26.760 That is radical to the people in the Netherlands.

00:27:31.000 The Netherlands is a giant welfare state.

00:27:35.320 We're talking now about getting rid of capitalism.

00:27:40.320 So now, why would people support Donald Trump?

00:27:48.740 Because there is too much at risk.

00:27:52.180 I don't trust the media.

00:27:54.540 I don't trust the Democrats.

00:27:57.220 I don't trust the Republicans.

00:27:59.240 I don't trust Donald Trump.

00:28:00.780 Donald Trump.

00:28:01.880 But I know that Donald Trump is not trying to kill capitalism.

00:28:06.100 Look, I want to make this clear.

00:28:10.660 The media is not responsible or not to blame.

00:28:16.320 And I know if anybody writes this story, they're going to say,

00:28:18.980 Glenn Beck blames the media.

00:28:20.460 No, they're not to blame for this.

00:28:24.220 Cohen, Manafort, and the president.

00:28:28.080 All of the president's problems boil down to the people who are involved.

00:28:32.820 Manafort, Cohen, and the president.

00:28:34.880 But the media played a huge role in his election.

00:28:41.840 And why so many people will stand by him.

00:28:45.100 If they would just stop praising Antifa and call them for what they are.

00:28:52.140 If they would stop trying to change the world into this post-modernist form.

00:29:01.060 We might actually listen to them.

00:29:04.880 When the president says they're the enemy of the people, no.

00:29:08.260 But they are an enemy to Western civilization if they don't stop on this track.

00:29:18.140 Post-modernism is designed to correct the world's greatest error of the Western civilization.

00:29:28.040 It is designed to take it apart.

00:29:31.420 And so every time the media or the left plays into the fourth wave feminists like Linda Sarsour,

00:29:41.040 you're killing us.

00:29:43.480 You're killing us.

00:29:44.420 And you're driving people into the arms of anybody who will step onto our porch and say,

00:29:49.320 I'll get rid of that hornet's nest.

00:29:52.360 Because we know that all the people, all the bug spray people, they're coming.

00:29:59.180 And they're not really bug spray people.

00:30:00.980 They're in with the bugs.

00:30:02.480 They're in with the hornets.

00:30:04.340 And they're coming.

00:30:05.500 And they're going to say, you know what?

00:30:07.200 You don't even belong in this house.

00:30:08.700 The hornets were here long before you were.

00:30:12.080 Hornets are natural.

00:30:13.180 And where they go, they go.

00:30:14.940 I mean, you can go anywhere.

00:30:16.100 So you lose your house, get out.

00:30:18.800 And you know what?

00:30:19.560 I say this as a crazy example.

00:30:21.820 But there are many of us who believe that's exactly where we're headed.

00:30:28.080 And we don't believe the press will stand up for humans over hornets.

00:30:34.320 We don't believe the Democrats will stand up for humans over hornets.

00:30:41.200 And that's why.

00:30:43.840 We know who he is.

00:30:46.300 We've baked all this in.

00:30:47.880 We know that Cohen, anybody who is, anybody today who's saying,

00:30:52.020 well, I'm not sure if the president really did have sex, please.

00:30:56.160 I'm not sure if he really did, you know, pay off it, please.

00:31:01.500 We know who he is.

00:31:04.280 We've baked it in.

00:31:06.620 We've made our choice.

00:31:08.160 Because we find postmodernism more dangerous than him.

00:31:15.120 We see the fundamental transformation of our nation, and we don't like it.

00:31:22.780 And we find the fundamental transformation of America where there is no enlightenment.

00:31:29.820 There is no reason.

00:31:31.620 There is only bullying and pushing and shoving and shooting until everyone agrees with whatever the political correct term of the day is.

00:31:42.560 They don't want any of it.

00:31:44.340 And they find that much more dangerous.

00:31:48.280 What we have to understand is that we are the people who stood and cheered for O.J. Simpson.

00:32:01.580 And we have to explain to the left why we're standing and cheering.

00:32:08.160 And we have to do it without vengeance.

00:32:10.020 And we shouldn't be cheering.

00:32:11.260 We should not be cheering.

00:32:12.680 We should be explaining why we got here in hopes that somebody will actually listen and say,

00:32:20.920 okay, okay, I understand that.

00:32:23.360 All right, let's work together to fix that.

00:32:25.900 Because we don't want to be cheering for O.J. Simpson.

00:32:30.040 We don't want to be cheering if Donald Trump pardons Manafort, which he should not do.

00:32:36.000 Because here's what's crazy.

00:32:41.460 Because we are so angry, we are so outraged,

00:32:46.100 and because we are standing for a righteous cause,

00:32:52.380 the stopping of the fundamental transformation of the United States and the Western world

00:32:58.200 into something that is not Western,

00:33:02.300 because we're standing up for that,

00:33:06.260 we are not realizing that the tools that we are using,

00:33:12.180 the anger, the outrage,

00:33:14.860 the people that we're standing up for and defending,

00:33:19.060 the things that we're saying, yeah, we can silence that person,

00:33:22.580 we are actually fundamentally transforming America as well,

00:33:29.980 just in a different way.

00:33:34.860 I want the America that believed in fairness.

00:33:38.740 I want the America that sees everyone as an individual.

00:33:43.040 I want the America that has compassion.

00:33:46.140 I want the America that can listen to both sides.

00:33:52.580 I want the America that was based in common sense and reason, science.

00:34:02.400 And right now, neither side is leading us to that America.

00:34:09.460 The best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:34:17.980 So are you a zero or a one?

00:34:20.220 Facebook wants to know.

00:34:22.800 Facebook is, they have a new reputation score,

00:34:25.400 and you'll either be a one or a zero.

00:34:28.540 For a year now,

00:34:29.700 Facebook has been developing a system

00:34:31.560 to rate the trustworthiness of you, the user.

00:34:36.360 People are apparently given a trustworthy score

00:34:38.360 of a scale from one to zero,

00:34:41.640 or zero to one,

00:34:43.180 whichever way you'd like to look at that,

00:34:45.000 because we all look at things differently now.

00:34:47.020 Or do we?

00:34:47.800 Now, I'm no math genius,

00:34:50.080 but it seems like that's a pretty small scale.

00:34:54.960 Don't you think, Stu?

00:34:56.260 And do you think we're a zero or a one?

00:35:00.700 It's binary.

00:35:02.140 We don't live in a binary world.

00:35:05.100 Looks like the choice is either you're trustworthy

00:35:07.120 or you're a liar.

00:35:08.900 Now, why is Facebook doing this?

00:35:10.580 Because we're not supposed to judge people.

00:35:12.660 No, no, no.

00:35:13.860 No.

00:35:14.120 And how can people be assigned

00:35:16.020 to this binary, trustworthy rating

00:35:18.120 in a postmodern world of gender fluidity

00:35:20.180 and front holes?

00:35:21.660 Honestly.

00:35:22.540 I gotta assume they're using decimals here, right?

00:35:25.600 Like you're a point,

00:35:26.480 you could be a 0.7 or a 0.3.

00:35:28.580 I don't know.

00:35:29.460 Maybe.

00:35:30.280 I don't know.

00:35:31.340 Why not just make it a scale of one to ten?

00:35:33.820 One to zero.

00:35:34.980 That's a good point.

00:35:35.620 Supposedly, Facebook is just trying to measure

00:35:37.660 user credibility

00:35:38.540 to help identify anybody who might be malicious.

00:35:41.360 I want to know my score.

00:35:44.320 I want to know my score.

00:35:46.740 The whole effort is driven by the whole election,

00:35:49.700 you know, Russia fake news fiasco,

00:35:51.960 but it's never ending

00:35:53.420 and it's a battle that is going to just continue to heat up

00:35:57.180 because no matter what Facebook comes up with,

00:36:00.540 people game the system.

00:36:02.520 In 2015, for example,

00:36:04.080 Facebook gave the users the ability

00:36:05.960 to report a post as false.

00:36:09.380 Well, at first, any post marked false

00:36:12.780 was forwarded to a third-party fact-checker.

00:36:15.740 Then a lot of users just were like,

00:36:17.440 wait a minute, we can just mark this untrue

00:36:19.880 because they disagreed with the person

00:36:21.960 or the company posting the content.

00:36:24.480 Now it's common for Facebook users

00:36:26.520 on the left and the right

00:36:28.000 to target publishers by flagging stories as false.

00:36:31.180 The third-party fact-checkers were inundated,

00:36:34.100 so Facebook built a system

00:36:36.240 to try to determine if a post is likely to be false,

00:36:40.400 you know, to save the actual human some time.

00:36:43.420 But then Facebook went a step further

00:36:45.180 and developed a way to assess

00:36:46.500 whether users who were flagging posts as false

00:36:49.700 were trustworthy themselves.

00:36:52.080 Facebook is now monitoring users

00:36:54.020 that flag a lot of published content as false.

00:36:57.580 They're also looking at the data

00:36:59.040 to discover which publishers users consider

00:37:01.980 to be trustworthy.

00:37:03.940 The Washington Post first reported the story yesterday,

00:37:06.880 but Facebook will not reveal what else it tracks

00:37:09.460 to determine, you know, your reputation.

00:37:12.820 They also wouldn't say

00:37:13.700 whether every Facebook user has a score

00:37:15.860 or how the scores are used,

00:37:17.760 why it's so secretive.

00:37:19.600 Facebook is afraid that

00:37:21.080 if it's too transparent about this,

00:37:22.860 it'll enable hostile users

00:37:24.460 to further game the system.

00:37:26.060 How about we take the gaming out of this?

00:37:28.220 How about you just allow us

00:37:30.200 to adjust the algorithm to suit us?

00:37:33.080 How about that one?

00:37:34.060 I mean, in a world of customization,

00:37:36.140 why don't you just build the platform

00:37:38.040 because that's what you promised us you were doing?

00:37:40.200 Otherwise, man, you would be responsible

00:37:43.260 for a lot of lawsuits, wouldn't you?

00:37:46.680 Yeah, that's right.

00:37:47.160 You can't be held responsible

00:37:48.220 for anything that people say

00:37:49.440 because you're just a platform.

00:37:51.140 Okay, you're not a publisher.

00:37:53.020 So we the publishers,

00:37:54.640 why can't we have access

00:37:56.500 and say, I want a little more of this

00:37:58.840 or a little less of this

00:38:00.440 because who are you to tell me

00:38:02.960 what I want?

00:38:05.000 Imagine somewhere deep

00:38:06.240 in the vault at Facebook,

00:38:07.780 your profile may have

00:38:10.340 the iconic like symbol next to it

00:38:12.960 or it may have a thumbs down.

00:38:16.920 Now, let me ask you this question.

00:38:18.860 If you're a conservative,

00:38:20.780 how likely is it

00:38:22.280 that you have a one

00:38:23.820 or a thumbs up?

00:38:36.780 Arthur Herman was on with us yesterday,

00:38:39.000 senior fellow of the Hudson Institute.

00:38:41.120 He wrote the book Freedom's Forge,

00:38:42.860 which I had him on yesterday to talk about

00:38:44.600 and we never got around to talking about it

00:38:46.860 because there was so much other stuff

00:38:48.860 to talk to him about.

00:38:50.360 I think he is,

00:38:51.200 he's one of my favorite historians,

00:38:52.800 favorite writer on history.

00:38:55.260 Freedom's Forge is an absolute must read

00:38:57.380 and we never got around to it.

00:38:59.420 And now, Arthur,

00:39:01.340 I had you on today

00:39:03.520 to talk about Freedom's Forge,

00:39:04.760 but I don't think we're going to make it today either.

00:39:06.900 I just don't think so.

00:39:08.720 I'm just saying,

00:39:09.800 with the news of the day

00:39:11.360 and everything that is happening

00:39:14.540 with the Trump White House,

00:39:16.080 I was wondering if there's anything in history

00:39:19.000 that we can use as a benchmark

00:39:21.860 for what's going on.

00:39:24.140 It's going to be tough to do.

00:39:25.740 We're definitely in uncharted territory

00:39:27.580 and I think that's one of the things

00:39:28.960 that scares conventional minds.

00:39:31.820 Well, let's,

00:39:32.640 can we start here?

00:39:33.620 Which you are not,

00:39:34.460 which you are not part.

00:39:35.720 Right.

00:39:36.120 And it's also what scares the media

00:39:38.420 because they,

00:39:40.040 like the Washington establishment,

00:39:41.900 prefer a political landscape

00:39:44.000 which is highly predictable.

00:39:45.600 Right.

00:39:45.820 And it follows the usual patterns

00:39:47.660 and in which the usual alliances,

00:39:51.100 both ideological

00:39:52.240 as well as practical

00:39:54.560 in a political sense,

00:39:56.380 are, you know,

00:39:57.660 are pretty much what they have been

00:39:59.360 for the last couple of decades.

00:40:01.160 And Trump has destroyed all that.

00:40:03.140 And this is the real point,

00:40:04.860 isn't it, Glenn?

00:40:05.620 It's his voters have destroyed all that.

00:40:07.680 Yes.

00:40:08.040 They think by going after Trump

00:40:10.040 that somehow,

00:40:11.720 if they get rid of Trump,

00:40:12.640 things will go back to normal.

00:40:13.840 What they see is their normal.

00:40:15.820 And this is not true.

00:40:17.300 Trump is not the cause

00:40:19.160 of the disruption

00:40:20.380 that's roiling our politics today

00:40:22.320 and our culture.

00:40:23.340 He's,

00:40:23.760 he is symptomatic of it.

00:40:25.620 And he was sent there

00:40:26.980 with a mission

00:40:27.740 by his voters

00:40:30.420 to,

00:40:32.080 they said,

00:40:32.540 we need a bowl

00:40:33.180 in this China shop

00:40:34.060 because we've got,

00:40:35.680 the China shop

00:40:36.480 has a lot of crockery

00:40:37.540 that badly needs breaking.

00:40:39.340 And so,

00:40:41.280 all of these scandals

00:40:43.300 that are now,

00:40:44.140 you know,

00:40:44.480 supposedly surrounding

00:40:45.780 his links to,

00:40:46.780 to Cohen and Manafort

00:40:49.040 and the Cohen one

00:40:49.920 is,

00:40:50.220 I think,

00:40:50.820 the more,

00:40:51.440 the more pertinent

00:40:52.560 right now

00:40:53.480 because of their

00:40:54.320 long relationship.

00:40:55.500 But the point is,

00:40:56.860 is that voters

00:40:57.460 discounted this

00:40:58.560 in 2016.

00:41:00.680 So,

00:41:01.280 they're not going to be moved

00:41:02.240 by this.

00:41:03.080 And I think it'll be,

00:41:04.800 I think once again,

00:41:06.120 we'll have predictions

00:41:07.240 by media and candidates

00:41:08.320 that at long last

00:41:09.540 we have found,

00:41:10.940 we've found the,

00:41:12.040 the magic bullet

00:41:13.260 that will,

00:41:14.320 that will kill

00:41:15.000 the Trump presidency.

00:41:16.120 We'll never have to deal

00:41:16.960 with him again.

00:41:17.620 And I think they're

00:41:18.180 going to be wrong.

00:41:18.960 So,

00:41:19.160 last hour,

00:41:20.000 I likened him

00:41:21.480 and our support

00:41:22.380 of Donald Trump

00:41:23.120 as we're living

00:41:24.360 in a house

00:41:24.860 and there's a giant

00:41:25.640 hornet's nest

00:41:26.580 right by our front door

00:41:27.920 and it's the only door

00:41:28.700 we can use.

00:41:29.600 And we know

00:41:30.740 that all of the people

00:41:32.140 who are said to,

00:41:33.620 you know,

00:41:33.980 be the bug,

00:41:34.900 you know,

00:41:35.320 killers and bug removal

00:41:36.380 systems and everything else,

00:41:38.060 they're all in

00:41:38.760 with the hornets

00:41:39.460 and they're all,

00:41:41.160 they're all coming

00:41:42.040 to the house

00:41:42.600 to tell us,

00:41:43.360 you know what,

00:41:44.020 the hornets are protected

00:41:45.360 and,

00:41:45.960 and you really,

00:41:46.880 they were here

00:41:47.300 long before you,

00:41:48.340 so you don't belong

00:41:49.280 in the house

00:41:49.700 as much as the hornets do.

00:41:50.980 So we know we're about

00:41:52.120 to lose our house

00:41:53.200 to crazy people

00:41:54.140 and there's somebody

00:41:55.700 in the house

00:41:56.540 who we don't necessarily like

00:41:58.460 and we don't necessarily

00:41:59.340 think is the best

00:42:00.220 and we don't always

00:42:00.780 agree with him,

00:42:01.320 but he's like,

00:42:02.420 you know what,

00:42:02.920 before they get here,

00:42:03.800 give me a broom,

00:42:04.560 I'm going to take that out.

00:42:06.540 And you're thinking

00:42:07.360 that's a bad idea

00:42:09.160 but not taking it out

00:42:12.120 is going to be worse.

00:42:13.900 Yeah,

00:42:14.060 I think I like your,

00:42:14.860 I like your metaphor

00:42:15.740 and I think it describes

00:42:18.020 exactly the relationship

00:42:19.520 between Trump

00:42:20.300 and his voters.

00:42:21.960 It goes back

00:42:22.520 to what we were talking

00:42:23.000 about yesterday,

00:42:23.620 doesn't it?

00:42:24.420 That when you look

00:42:25.340 at the great public figures

00:42:27.060 and I think Donald Trump

00:42:28.640 is going to emerge

00:42:29.980 as one of our

00:42:30.980 most significant presidents,

00:42:33.860 certainly the most significant

00:42:36.140 in the last 50 years.

00:42:40.340 How do you mean that?

00:42:40.980 I think Barack Obama

00:42:43.680 was significant,

00:42:44.960 really significant.

00:42:46.260 Well,

00:42:46.580 perhaps in a negative way

00:42:47.940 but I mean,

00:42:48.440 the sense of Trump

00:42:49.240 is really kind of

00:42:51.200 totally reshaping

00:42:52.860 the political landscape.

00:42:53.700 Obama's,

00:42:55.260 what Obama did

00:42:56.320 in his eight years

00:42:57.500 was to work

00:42:58.300 within the existing

00:43:00.320 political landscape

00:43:01.580 to make certain changes

00:43:02.920 in society,

00:43:04.480 in culture,

00:43:05.960 the whole growth

00:43:07.020 of the deep state

00:43:08.260 that took place

00:43:09.000 during his tenure.

00:43:10.280 All of these were done

00:43:11.660 in ways that didn't disturb

00:43:13.440 or roil

00:43:14.220 the conventional institutions

00:43:16.920 within which

00:43:18.340 Washington operates

00:43:19.500 and this is one of the reasons

00:43:20.440 why he was able

00:43:21.160 to get away with it.

00:43:22.000 But at the same time,

00:43:25.180 what you saw

00:43:25.680 was a growing revolt

00:43:26.920 in the country itself.

00:43:28.560 We saw that,

00:43:29.120 didn't we,

00:43:29.420 in the midterms.

00:43:30.280 The midterms

00:43:30.820 is where you could see

00:43:32.700 the wave of change coming

00:43:34.120 that would ultimately

00:43:34.880 put Trump into power.

00:43:37.400 It started with the Tea Party,

00:43:39.540 which as you know,

00:43:40.620 Republican Party establishment

00:43:42.380 ignored and then

00:43:43.600 tried to suppress.

00:43:45.160 It came again

00:43:46.300 in those pivotal midterms

00:43:49.280 in 2014

00:43:50.600 when it really became clear

00:43:52.160 that there was going

00:43:52.900 to be big changes

00:43:53.660 coming in Washington

00:43:54.680 and Trump was,

00:43:56.400 it was the crest

00:43:57.440 of that wave.

00:43:58.620 But let's go back

00:43:59.420 to the question

00:44:00.060 about where Trump is

00:44:01.640 with regard

00:44:02.180 to his voters.

00:44:03.440 They sent him

00:44:04.500 in to,

00:44:05.340 to do a job

00:44:07.440 and they were

00:44:09.540 perfectly aware

00:44:10.340 of the fact

00:44:10.780 the man had,

00:44:11.640 had a less

00:44:13.200 than perfect past.

00:44:14.840 They were perfectly aware

00:44:16.240 that, for example,

00:44:17.380 our evangelical friends

00:44:18.520 and the fact

00:44:19.340 that Trump

00:44:19.760 certainly doesn't fit

00:44:21.200 the stereotype

00:44:24.480 of what they candidate

00:44:25.820 that the evangelical

00:44:26.380 You are so kind.

00:44:27.880 You are so kind.

00:44:28.940 It doesn't fit in at all.

00:44:30.140 Right.

00:44:30.460 But they saw through

00:44:32.020 the attempts,

00:44:32.920 and I think they do today,

00:44:34.820 the attempts

00:44:35.340 to make,

00:44:35.840 to shame them

00:44:36.700 into abandoning Trump

00:44:38.260 because of his relationships

00:44:40.520 alleged or real

00:44:42.860 with porn stars

00:44:44.640 or his behavior

00:44:46.020 in inappropriate

00:44:47.200 kinds of ways.

00:44:48.160 They know what's going on.

00:44:49.700 That what they're trying

00:44:50.720 to do is to break

00:44:51.480 the Trump coalition

00:44:52.700 on the wheel

00:44:54.700 of morality.

00:44:56.740 And they see

00:44:57.860 through that.

00:44:58.300 They understand

00:44:59.060 that this is the way

00:44:59.920 in which Republican

00:45:00.680 hopefuls

00:45:02.400 and the last round

00:45:04.020 of best hopes

00:45:04.720 for changing Washington

00:45:05.800 had been broken

00:45:06.520 and destroyed.

00:45:07.560 And they see the pattern

00:45:08.540 that's taking place now.

00:45:09.680 The pursuit

00:45:11.760 of Donald Trump,

00:45:13.400 the indictment

00:45:14.420 against Chris Collins,

00:45:16.180 the indictment

00:45:16.820 against Duncan Hunter,

00:45:19.440 I don't know

00:45:19.700 if it's an indictment yet,

00:45:20.880 but on campaign

00:45:22.020 finance reform,

00:45:22.840 is this purely coincidental

00:45:24.340 that the earliest

00:45:27.020 supporters of Donald Trump

00:45:28.300 should find themselves

00:45:29.500 in this kind

00:45:30.540 of legal trouble?

00:45:32.060 Is this just simply

00:45:33.740 that one day

00:45:35.260 the Justice Department

00:45:36.840 had a look and said,

00:45:37.680 oh, look,

00:45:38.340 these guys may be

00:45:39.020 violating the campaign

00:45:39.900 finance reform.

00:45:40.960 When others walk away,

00:45:42.840 Rosie O'Donnell

00:45:43.920 is a great example.

00:45:47.300 And look at Barack Obama.

00:45:48.620 He had $2 million

00:45:49.580 of contributions

00:45:52.460 which were deemed illegal.

00:45:54.660 And he was able

00:45:56.020 to walk away

00:45:56.680 with a fine

00:45:57.320 in the process.

00:45:58.700 They understand

00:45:59.220 what's underway here.

00:46:00.840 And yet, Glenn,

00:46:01.760 what I'm going to say is,

00:46:03.140 it goes back to our theme

00:46:04.140 that we were talking

00:46:04.720 about yesterday

00:46:05.420 and the theme,

00:46:06.060 I think of almost

00:46:06.920 all my books.

00:46:07.520 Again,

00:46:08.100 the issue of optimism.

00:46:09.740 Look,

00:46:10.600 no one,

00:46:11.360 I think,

00:46:11.760 not even on the left,

00:46:16.140 wants what's happening today.

00:46:18.340 Everybody wants

00:46:19.300 the nightmare

00:46:19.800 we find ourselves

00:46:20.720 to go away.

00:46:21.920 The left

00:46:22.860 and the media

00:46:23.940 and Democrats

00:46:24.840 think they're going

00:46:25.640 to make it go away

00:46:26.420 by getting rid of Trump.

00:46:27.800 If we just get that guy

00:46:28.880 out of there,

00:46:29.800 then all of the things

00:46:30.860 will return to normal.

00:46:31.800 They're wrong about that.

00:46:32.840 And I think

00:46:34.200 the Trump supporters

00:46:35.580 want this to go away

00:46:37.780 by having the left

00:46:39.780 and the Democrats

00:46:40.360 in the media

00:46:41.020 and the never-Trumpers

00:46:42.580 and the Republicans

00:46:43.340 accept the fact

00:46:44.460 that the man

00:46:44.880 is elected president.

00:46:45.960 Let him do his job.

00:46:47.920 Let's let a president

00:46:49.580 do what we sent him

00:46:50.860 there to do.

00:46:51.960 And the fact is,

00:46:52.860 they're wrong, too.

00:46:54.060 The left

00:46:54.520 and the Democrats

00:46:55.320 and the media

00:46:55.660 are never going

00:46:56.380 to accept Trump.

00:46:57.180 It's going to get worse

00:46:58.240 before it gets better,

00:46:59.300 I'm afraid.

00:47:01.020 But the fact that

00:47:02.220 we all recognize

00:47:03.360 the fact that

00:47:04.000 we don't want to be here,

00:47:05.360 that this is not healthy

00:47:06.520 for our country,

00:47:07.340 I think,

00:47:08.220 is a sign that

00:47:09.320 at the end of all of this

00:47:11.820 and at the end of all

00:47:12.960 of the broken crockery,

00:47:14.340 as I was saying before,

00:47:15.940 and the end of how

00:47:18.220 this all unfolds,

00:47:19.720 including the midterms

00:47:20.760 in November,

00:47:21.940 that at the end of it,

00:47:22.820 I think we are going

00:47:23.780 to come out okay,

00:47:25.140 just a very different,

00:47:26.300 and I think,

00:47:27.080 and I hope,

00:47:27.980 a better and healthier country

00:47:29.760 at the end of it.

00:47:30.440 Arthur,

00:47:31.080 I've only got about

00:47:32.160 a minute and a half left.

00:47:33.580 I don't know

00:47:34.520 if you can answer

00:47:35.120 this question.

00:47:36.640 I know you studied

00:47:38.400 the early progressive movement

00:47:41.260 with Woodrow Wilson.

00:47:43.440 You know how the violence

00:47:46.080 reared its head

00:47:47.140 in the 60s,

00:47:48.420 also in the 1930s,

00:47:50.580 with the uprising

00:47:51.820 of communists,

00:47:53.120 and America always,

00:47:55.400 once it starts

00:47:56.100 to see that violence

00:47:57.140 and sees how radical

00:47:58.480 things really are,

00:47:59.520 Americans always

00:48:01.200 recoil from it.

00:48:03.300 Do you think

00:48:04.380 that we're going

00:48:05.920 to recoil

00:48:06.620 from the antiphaz

00:48:09.040 and the democratic

00:48:09.920 socialists this time,

00:48:11.320 or has the university

00:48:12.900 system done its job?

00:48:15.880 That's a very good question.

00:48:17.620 You put your finger

00:48:18.960 on one of the key aspects

00:48:20.120 of this,

00:48:20.560 in that this isn't

00:48:21.240 just a revolt

00:48:21.880 by the Trump supporters

00:48:24.160 against the Washington

00:48:25.740 establishment.

00:48:26.440 It's also a revolt

00:48:27.300 on the part of the left.

00:48:28.260 The Washington establishment

00:48:29.560 thinks that they can

00:48:30.640 recruit the left

00:48:31.500 in order to defeat

00:48:32.500 Trump on the right,

00:48:33.280 and I think they're wrong.

00:48:34.540 They're the next targets,

00:48:35.700 and they don't realize

00:48:36.420 that quite yet.

00:48:37.800 I think we will pull back.

00:48:39.300 We did not pull back

00:48:40.480 in 1860,

00:48:41.540 and the reason is

00:48:42.700 because we had

00:48:43.380 a powerful section

00:48:45.800 of the country,

00:48:46.940 the South,

00:48:47.580 which was willing

00:48:48.340 to pull the country apart

00:48:49.640 because they saw

00:48:50.420 a brighter future

00:48:51.160 in that happening.

00:48:51.840 I don't see anyone

00:48:53.320 in that position

00:48:54.500 right now.

00:48:55.840 I think that

00:48:56.540 what people talk

00:48:58.480 about a civil war here,

00:48:59.800 what we're talking about

00:49:00.760 is a series

00:49:02.180 of verbal civil wars

00:49:04.140 of a divided nation.

00:49:05.220 There's no doubt

00:49:05.840 about that.

00:49:06.680 We've been there before.

00:49:07.940 It's just never been

00:49:08.820 as pervasive

00:49:09.520 in our culture

00:49:10.280 and been as omnipresent

00:49:11.520 thanks to social media

00:49:12.760 and cable news

00:49:15.200 and the way

00:49:15.580 in which it is today.

00:49:17.180 I think that

00:49:18.040 what I fear

00:49:18.980 is that we're going

00:49:19.980 to have one

00:49:20.900 of those awful moments

00:49:22.240 in which there's

00:49:23.040 real serious violence

00:49:24.740 in some place

00:49:25.500 or somewhere

00:49:26.000 and then someone

00:49:26.840 has to step forward

00:49:27.700 and say,

00:49:28.100 we just can't go on

00:49:29.080 like this.

00:49:30.120 I don't see that

00:49:31.040 happening quite yet,

00:49:32.360 but I think for now

00:49:34.400 we're still in a process

00:49:35.860 as I was saying yesterday

00:49:36.980 in which it's going

00:49:38.020 to be a fight

00:49:38.740 to the finish

00:49:39.360 between Trump

00:49:40.560 and his opponents.

00:49:42.260 And the midterms

00:49:44.280 are not going

00:49:45.220 to give us

00:49:45.820 whichever way

00:49:47.160 they turn out

00:49:47.740 are not going

00:49:49.040 to make this issue

00:49:50.000 go away.

00:49:50.740 The left is not

00:49:51.640 going to accept Trump

00:49:53.120 even if Republicans

00:49:53.980 hold on to the House

00:49:54.840 and Senate.

00:49:56.340 And Trump is going

00:49:57.400 to be right where it is

00:49:58.420 and Democrats

00:49:58.940 won't be able

00:49:59.480 to get him out

00:50:00.060 even if they do

00:50:00.940 win the House.

00:50:02.780 Arthur.

00:50:03.260 We're in for a stage.

00:50:04.620 We're in for interesting times.

00:50:06.060 I know.

00:50:06.600 I appreciate

00:50:07.480 your patience with me

00:50:09.000 and I'm going to talk

00:50:09.920 to you about

00:50:10.400 Freedom's Forge

00:50:11.020 on one of these.

00:50:11.900 Don't believe him.

00:50:12.560 He's never going

00:50:13.460 to ask you

00:50:13.900 about Freedom's Forge.

00:50:14.680 It's not going to happen.

00:50:15.380 It's one of my favorite books.

00:50:16.980 I love it.

00:50:21.720 This is the best

00:50:22.780 of the Glenn Beck program

00:50:23.660 and don't forget

00:50:24.460 rate us

00:50:25.440 on iTunes.

00:50:32.900 Black Tuesday

00:50:33.840 for the Trump administration.

00:50:36.220 Or was it?

00:50:38.140 Two members

00:50:38.860 of the President's Trump

00:50:39.780 President Trump's

00:50:40.780 inner circle

00:50:41.380 were both found guilty

00:50:42.600 yesterday

00:50:43.020 in federal court.

00:50:44.760 Now Paul Manafort

00:50:45.620 was convicted

00:50:46.500 on 8 of 18 charges

00:50:48.400 well

00:50:48.920 for crimes

00:50:50.540 that you know

00:50:51.440 we all expect

00:50:53.300 from a you know

00:50:54.300 a dirty shady

00:50:55.220 foreign lobbyist.

00:50:56.620 We knew

00:50:57.000 who this guy was

00:50:58.180 long before

00:50:59.140 he ever

00:50:59.660 joined the Trump campaign.

00:51:01.280 It was mostly

00:51:02.740 tax and bank fraud.

00:51:04.220 He was colluding

00:51:05.260 with the Russians

00:51:05.880 but not for Trump.

00:51:07.320 Years before

00:51:08.200 he was

00:51:08.720 he was colluding

00:51:09.840 with Russia

00:51:10.620 to help them

00:51:12.460 get into the Ukraine

00:51:13.480 and take over.

00:51:15.220 That's his collusion

00:51:16.420 and it had

00:51:17.100 nothing to do

00:51:18.280 with Donald Trump.

00:51:19.780 And that wasn't

00:51:20.560 even brought up

00:51:21.300 in the trial.

00:51:22.960 Now Michael Cohen

00:51:23.740 on the other hand

00:51:24.600 in another court

00:51:25.720 pleaded guilty

00:51:26.520 to a few charges

00:51:27.480 most notably

00:51:28.500 to campaign

00:51:29.460 finance violations.

00:51:31.160 Now I want you

00:51:31.600 to listen to the

00:51:32.320 verbiage in his

00:51:33.280 guilty plea

00:51:34.000 because it is

00:51:34.760 relevant to

00:51:35.460 President Trump.

00:51:37.080 Cohen stated

00:51:37.860 quote

00:51:39.060 in violation

00:51:40.760 of campaign

00:51:41.860 finance law

00:51:42.820 at the behest

00:51:43.820 of a candidate

00:51:44.540 for federal office

00:51:45.760 for the principal

00:51:47.000 purpose of

00:51:47.740 influencing an election

00:51:49.140 end quote.

00:51:51.220 So that's

00:51:52.460 lawyer speak.

00:51:53.480 Can you please

00:51:54.460 translate

00:51:55.040 bullcrap to English?

00:51:57.320 Yes.

00:51:58.440 Quote

00:51:58.860 Yeah I paid

00:52:00.300 some chicks off

00:52:01.280 but I only did it

00:52:02.200 because my boss

00:52:02.940 who was candidate

00:52:03.520 to be president

00:52:04.280 at the time

00:52:04.720 he asked me

00:52:05.120 to do it.

00:52:06.060 The reason why

00:52:06.740 he wanted me

00:52:07.180 to cover all this

00:52:07.960 up is because

00:52:08.420 you know

00:52:08.800 it could change

00:52:09.500 the election.

00:52:10.780 What are you

00:52:11.180 dope?

00:52:12.740 End quote.

00:52:14.640 The reason

00:52:15.520 for the

00:52:16.020 lawyer speak

00:52:16.960 in the wording

00:52:17.700 of for the

00:52:19.120 principal purpose

00:52:20.300 of influencing

00:52:21.120 an election

00:52:21.800 is because

00:52:23.040 saying it

00:52:24.000 like that

00:52:24.560 matches up

00:52:25.160 directly with

00:52:25.920 the wording

00:52:26.360 of the campaign

00:52:27.460 finance law.

00:52:28.980 U.S. election

00:52:29.580 law states

00:52:30.400 quote

00:52:30.980 campaign contributions

00:52:33.260 define as things

00:52:34.500 of value

00:52:35.380 given to a campaign

00:52:36.660 to influence

00:52:38.280 an election

00:52:39.200 must be disclosed

00:52:41.060 end quote.

00:52:42.620 So Cohen

00:52:43.420 knew exactly

00:52:44.240 what he was

00:52:44.860 doing there.

00:52:46.020 He was going

00:52:46.780 down

00:52:47.200 but he wanted

00:52:48.320 to wound

00:52:48.780 his old boss

00:52:49.560 once more

00:52:50.380 before he got

00:52:51.340 fitted for his

00:52:52.160 orange jumpsuit

00:52:53.100 and sent

00:52:53.600 to the big house.

00:52:54.480 So now

00:52:56.140 is this Black

00:52:57.720 Tuesday?

00:52:59.840 Well let's

00:53:00.640 look again

00:53:01.120 at Manafort.

00:53:02.400 Nothing Manafort

00:53:03.320 was convicted

00:53:04.540 for had

00:53:05.080 anything to

00:53:05.700 do with

00:53:06.200 President Trump.

00:53:07.300 Nothing.

00:53:08.440 The optics

00:53:09.160 look bad

00:53:09.860 but that's

00:53:10.280 only because

00:53:10.880 the press

00:53:11.500 is spinning

00:53:12.260 it as

00:53:12.960 here's his

00:53:13.900 campaign guy.

00:53:15.400 Trump fired

00:53:16.140 him.

00:53:17.660 Rightfully

00:53:18.340 so.

00:53:19.600 He was only

00:53:20.340 there at the

00:53:20.820 campaign and

00:53:21.660 nothing that he's

00:53:22.980 going to prison

00:53:23.740 for has

00:53:24.800 anything to

00:53:25.560 do with

00:53:26.100 the Trump

00:53:26.460 campaign.

00:53:27.740 Again

00:53:28.380 it's optics.

00:53:30.000 He was once

00:53:30.700 Trump's guy

00:53:31.600 but in the end

00:53:32.540 it's just

00:53:33.240 optics.

00:53:34.660 Cohen

00:53:34.940 is different.

00:53:36.980 Cohen's

00:53:37.380 statement

00:53:37.680 is damning.

00:53:39.560 It will

00:53:39.940 fuel

00:53:40.420 impeachment

00:53:41.100 op-eds

00:53:41.780 for months.

00:53:43.520 It will be

00:53:43.980 talked about

00:53:44.500 in panels

00:53:45.080 on every

00:53:45.680 mainstream

00:53:46.220 cable news

00:53:47.000 outlets

00:53:47.460 for months.

00:53:49.300 But consider

00:53:50.280 this.

00:53:52.340 The guy

00:53:53.280 who's saying

00:53:53.900 it is

00:53:54.940 a known

00:53:55.580 liar.

00:53:57.300 The guy

00:53:58.160 he's saying

00:53:58.740 it about

00:53:59.300 is also

00:54:00.580 a known

00:54:01.480 liar.

00:54:02.960 Who do

00:54:03.680 we believe

00:54:04.320 here?

00:54:06.720 As bad

00:54:07.340 as Cohen's

00:54:07.940 accusations

00:54:08.480 towards Trump

00:54:09.320 were,

00:54:09.840 why wasn't

00:54:10.940 that alone

00:54:12.000 worth some

00:54:12.700 sort of

00:54:13.160 immunity

00:54:13.640 deal?

00:54:15.540 Well,

00:54:16.480 probably

00:54:17.540 because Cohen

00:54:18.180 doesn't have

00:54:18.940 any proof.

00:54:21.540 Cohen's going

00:54:22.180 to jail

00:54:22.660 with no

00:54:23.400 deal.

00:54:24.540 Could it

00:54:24.860 be because

00:54:25.500 he actually

00:54:26.020 doesn't have

00:54:26.540 any proof

00:54:27.000 that his

00:54:27.320 boss made

00:54:27.900 him do

00:54:28.220 these things?

00:54:29.300 Because if

00:54:29.780 he did

00:54:30.220 have some

00:54:30.740 sort of

00:54:31.120 a smoking

00:54:31.660 gun,

00:54:32.760 I don't

00:54:33.160 think Cohen

00:54:33.620 would be

00:54:33.960 going to

00:54:34.440 prison right

00:54:35.020 now.

00:54:35.800 So Cohen's

00:54:36.520 big accusation,

00:54:38.100 the news

00:54:38.760 will cover

00:54:40.380 this and it

00:54:40.900 will dominate

00:54:41.600 CNN and

00:54:42.320 MSNBC for

00:54:43.060 the next

00:54:43.340 month or

00:54:43.720 so,

00:54:44.300 all boils

00:54:45.300 down to

00:54:46.500 this.

00:54:47.800 An

00:54:47.960 accusation,

00:54:48.860 his word

00:54:50.720 against the

00:54:51.720 president's.

00:54:53.180 Now,

00:54:53.600 I am not

00:54:54.140 saying that

00:54:54.660 the president

00:54:55.140 didn't do

00:54:55.960 these things.

00:54:57.360 In fact,

00:54:58.160 I'm pretty

00:54:59.040 sure he

00:54:59.520 did,

00:55:00.200 but that's

00:55:00.620 just my

00:55:01.120 opinion and

00:55:02.420 my opinion

00:55:03.040 doesn't send

00:55:03.760 anybody to

00:55:04.640 court.

00:55:05.660 It's not

00:55:06.500 what you

00:55:06.900 think or

00:55:08.760 know.

00:55:09.780 In this

00:55:10.620 case,

00:55:10.980 it's what

00:55:11.420 you can

00:55:11.740 prove.

00:55:13.440 And because

00:55:14.260 of that,

00:55:15.340 Black

00:55:15.640 Tuesday,

00:55:16.700 not hardly.

00:55:17.880 The Blaze

00:55:18.900 Radio

00:55:19.300 Network.

00:55:22.420 On

00:55:23.220 Demand.

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