On today's show, Glenn Beck is joined by Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-VA) to discuss immigration reform, abortion, AI, and much, much more. Glenn also talks about John Bolton's latest comments about AI and Elon Musk's claim that the new version of AI might be AGI.
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00:03:04.540You know, the Democrats are just losing all kinds of credibility, and people are switching parties like they've never switched away from the Democratic Party before.
00:05:13.700And one thing about that experience that I can tell you, and I worked with Holocaust survivors for more than a decade to build this museum.
00:05:23.700One thing I learned in the process of that is that it doesn't take very long to tear apart a constitutional republic.
00:07:05.540It's been clearly and repeatedly established, including by the bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee, led by Marco Rubio, that Russia interfered in the 2016 election by disinformation campaigns, by social media efforts, by all sorts of means short of manipulating the actual vote.
00:07:32.760Now, obviously, Donald Trump doesn't like that fact.
00:07:35.120He doesn't like the fact that the intelligence community and the Senate bipartisan Intelligence Committee assessed that this interference was intended to.
00:08:29.100And that strange Hitler mystical Ayatollah and guy who, handsmaid's tale guy who just wants everybody dressed in red robes cannot get that stopped.
00:08:43.940Glenn, you've worked with charities for a long time.
00:08:48.080Have you founded your own and all this incredible work around the globe?
00:08:52.660Would you consider potentially putting together a fundraiser for the Democrats to come up with another literary reference than The Handmaid's Tale?
00:09:00.300Well, like, is it possible we could get them a different book just so they could say that title of it?
00:09:05.680Now, I know Jasmine Crockett, of course, is so stupid.
00:09:09.680She couldn't even act like she read the book.
00:09:11.740She only said she was watching the Hulu show.
00:09:13.660But still, can we get them some reference other than The Handmaid's Tale?
00:11:50.400I'm going into school districts or hiring a lot of illegal aliens.
00:11:55.660I know because the kids that are in the classes are parts of, members of families that are here from Venezuela, from Guatemala, from different countries in Africa.
00:12:08.400I have concerns about Best Buy hiring a lot of people who I'm not sure if they're documented, immigrants.
00:12:17.580But I have friends who cannot get hours at their work because they've got supervisors, specifically at Best Buy, one friend in particular, who had to quit because she was not getting the hours that she needed to support herself.
00:12:32.380She had a Spanish supervisor who was hiring other Hispanic employees.
00:12:37.680And then if you spoke Spanish, she felt like she was discriminated against because she didn't speak Spanish and she was not getting the hours that she needed.
00:12:45.840So I see a lot of this in, like, I don't know, in different companies and different businesses where I have friends and neighbors who are applying for jobs and they're not getting them because they don't speak Spanish or because they're not Hispanic.
00:13:00.680So let me make some very controversial statements here about your phone call.
00:15:41.640But one reason I live in Idaho and not Utah is because I think Utah is going to pay a very, very heavy price for the things that they are allowed to happen.
00:15:50.460And every time I go into the big cities in Utah, I am shocked at how bad they are.
00:15:57.080So you just need to wake your neighbors up.
00:16:01.400And if your neighbors are awake, you must be active.
00:16:37.660And you have to wake up on that and do the things locally that will hold your city's feet to the fire and hold your city's feet to the Constitution and to the actual rule of law.
00:16:50.960Look at those blacklisted terms that the Democrats are now running from.
00:18:50.820So other than GPT-5, having everybody's baseline site profile between threads now, I'm really struggling to picture how the free market and how capitalism works.
00:19:12.160If AI is going to take so many jobs and so many people are going to be out of work, well, sure, if we make things cheaper, who's going to have money to pay for anything and how do we overcome that?
00:19:32.320Are we going to tax private businesses for using AI?
00:20:36.120Now, there is the hope that new jobs come out.
00:20:40.760But I'm having a hard time seeing it not destroy millions of jobs around the world.
00:20:50.400And so people are going to be unemployed.
00:20:53.580And some of the great minds of the Great Reset, et cetera, including Noah Haval Harari, has come out and said there's going to be useless people that we just need to keep on drugs.
00:22:29.640And if they say now, oh, no, it's only for the very, very, very, very malformed, well, that's what it was in Germany, too, when they first did it.
00:22:52.180I personally think there should be a tax.
00:22:54.780And I haven't, I'm not settled on any of this.
00:22:57.300I think there should be a tax on those like Zuckerberg and, quite honestly, Elon Musk, the people who are going to be running these things.
00:23:06.040And there's going to be a handful that are worth trillions and trillions of dollars.
00:23:11.960I'm sorry, but you used our information, our private selves, and you're still using them to build these things.
00:24:14.060And now she came from nothing, built herself up, and now she could just barely, you know, keep her head above water.
00:24:21.440So I gave her some advice, but it bothered me all day yesterday.
00:24:25.520And I want to come back to this because I've been thinking as I'm developing this new venture of mine called The Torch, we've been looking for the imagery for it and everything else.
00:24:38.340And I saw some things that our team has been producing, and it included the Statue of Liberty and the flag and everything else.
00:24:44.960And as I'm watching that, I thought, that is so dated.
00:24:50.740But I don't think that appeals to anybody that is in their 20s because it's all empty, you know.
00:24:57.380There was a time when the American flag meant something, and it didn't need to be explained at all.
00:25:03.260There was a time when the Statue of Liberty was more than just an old, outdated tourist stop, that when you saw it, sometimes it could move you to tears.
00:29:18.180A hundred years of policies from the progressives where you were taught to wait, to comply, to memorize these because they're going to be on a test, to look to the government, to the experts, to the bureaucrats.
00:29:31.140Everything requires permission just to live your own life.
00:29:34.560And if it's not permission, it's a tax or some sort of a form that you have to fill out.
00:30:05.500When the old symbols lose their power, new ones can rise or you can reinvigorate those symbols by putting new power back into them.
00:30:16.260The new symbols of the American dream are not going to be marble statues or buildings.
00:30:21.600The new symbols of the American dream go back to what they were before the progressive era.
00:30:27.360You, the people, somebody who's working right now in their basement on something and they just think they have something and them being able to keep that idea, enhance people's lives and get rich from it.
00:30:40.920The craftsman that's turning a side hustle into something real.
00:30:45.080The entrepreneur that is not going to wait for permission.
00:30:48.760The communities that stand together when the institutions fail them.
00:33:28.720So in talking about capitalism and the future and especially AI, let's have a deeper conversation on this because, you know, the fear is it's going to take our jobs and you're going to be a useless eater, et cetera, et cetera, because AI will have all of the answers.
00:33:56.560But how many times, hang on, hang on, that is correct if you look at it that way.
00:34:03.120But let me say this, I can have people who are wildly educated on exactly the same facts and they will come to a different conclusion or a different way to look at that, okay?
00:34:18.900They can agree on all of the same facts, but because they're each unique and AI.
00:34:26.560AI is not a GI or ASI is not going to be unique, I don't think.
00:35:04.820As I have been working with this now for almost a year now, learning how to prompt changes everything.
00:35:13.240And so, and now that AI remembers your conversations and it remembers your prompts, it will get a different answer for you than it will for me.
00:35:26.760And that's where the uniqueness comes from.
00:35:30.200And that comes from looking at AI as a tool, not as the answer.
00:35:38.420So, Stu, if you put in all of the prompts that make you, you, and then I put in a prompt that makes me, me, Donald Trump does it, you know, Gavin Newsom does it.
00:35:51.120It's going to spit out different things because you're requiring a different framework.
00:36:08.880And if you're just going there and saying, give me the answer, well, then you're going to become a slave.
00:36:14.420But if you're going and saying, hey, this is what I think, this is what I'm looking for, this is where I'm missing some things, et cetera, et cetera.
00:36:25.300It will give you a customized answer that is unique to you.
00:36:30.700And so prompting becomes the place where you're unique.
00:36:58.500And I said, well, if I was, let's say I wanted to come up with a competitor for Google.
00:37:04.460If I'm doing research online and Google is able to watch my every keystroke and it has AI, it's knowing what I'm looking for.
00:37:13.280It then thinks, what is he trying to put together?
00:37:18.040And if it figures it out, it will complete it faster than me and give it to the mothership, which has the distribution and the money and everything else.
00:37:28.100And it will, I won't be able to do it because it will already have done it.
00:37:45.880And unless we have control of our own thoughts and our own ideas and we have some safety to where it cannot intrude on those things, that we have some sort of a patent system for unique ideas that you're working on.
00:38:07.880That AI cannot take what you're working on and share it with the mothership, share it with anybody else.
00:39:35.540Right now, a year ago, we thought we're going to use, we'll use somebody's AI as the churn, as the compute power because the server farms, everything is so expensive.
00:39:50.580But I don't think now, we've been talking about this at the torch that our, you know, our dreamers are working on.
00:39:58.100I'm not sure we're ever going to be able to get the compute power that we need for a large segment of people.
00:40:03.540Because right now, these companies, now think of this, the world is getting between 1% and 3% of the compute power.
00:40:11.180So that means 97% to 99% of all of that compute is going directly into the company trying to enhance the next version.
00:40:24.100All of that thinking, that's like, that's like you giving, you know, something that everybody else thinks is your main focus and you're only giving it 20 or 15 minutes a day.
00:40:45.440And you think that's what I'm really doing is spending all my time on there.
00:40:48.520And so they're eating up all of the compute for the next generation of, and I don't think that's going to stop.
00:40:55.060And so we're now looking into, can we afford to build our own AI server farm at a lower level that doesn't have to, you know, take on 10 million people, but maybe a million people and keep it disconnected from everything else.
00:41:13.880Uh, if we can do that, I think that's, I think that's a really important step that people will then be able to go, okay, all right, I can come up with my own, even my own company compute farm, uh, that keeps my secrets, keeps all of the things that I'm thinking, keeps all of this information right here.
00:41:35.280Um, hopefully that will happen, but I, I'm not sure because I, I think when, when they do hit AGI, you're not going to get it.
00:41:44.280You might have access to AGI, but it will be so expensive because AGI is going to try to get to ASI.
00:41:50.700So when they get to AGI, um, when that, when that is there and available, it could be $5,000 a month for an individual.
00:41:59.160It could, it could be astronomical prices.
00:42:01.380You're not going to get, uh, compute time on a quantum computer.
00:42:07.400You're just not, it'll be way too expensive because the big boys will be using it.
00:42:13.920Most of it, you know, the, uh, Microsoft and Google and everybody else, when they develop theirs,
00:42:19.140they will be using it themselves, uh, to get stronger and better, et cetera, et cetera.
00:42:24.920So there has to be something for the average person to be able to use this that is not connected to the big boys.
00:42:33.820I'm still not sure, Glenn, if we're at this time, but like, just to redefine these terms, AGI and ASI, artificial general intelligence, artificial super intelligence.
00:42:42.560Um, and the artificial general intelligence is basically, it can be the smartest human, right?
00:42:48.460We are, not even, not even that you would still consider this person, a super genius.
00:43:42.100And I would call that super intelligence myself, but it's not, that's just general intelligence.
00:43:48.020Top of the line, better than any human on all subjects.
00:43:52.760Super intelligence is when it goes so far beyond our understanding.
00:43:57.960We, it will create languages and formulas and, and, uh, alloys and, and think in ways that we cannot possibly even imagine today because it's almost like an alien life form.
00:44:11.120You know, when we think all the aliens are going to come down, they're going to be friendly.