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00:00:06.040 Welcome to the podcast.

00:00:07.340 Today, it's Stu and Pat and Jeffy filling in for Glenn.

00:00:12.040 And we started the show, Jeffy, with this crazy story about asset forfeiture.

00:00:16.940 We have $500,000 taken from just some guy for driving with it.

00:00:21.420 No charges.

00:00:22.380 It's unbelievable how we let this happen in the United States,

00:00:25.620 where just you have to prove your innocence to get your money back.

00:00:30.540 No?

00:00:31.240 No.

00:00:32.060 We go to the details of that story.

00:00:33.380 Also, Tiger Woods, is it okay to have any athletes that aren't constantly involved in politics?

00:00:38.360 Is that okay?

00:00:38.840 It doesn't appear to be.

00:00:40.600 No, it doesn't seem to be.

00:00:42.140 We also go into the weird thing that's going on in Texas with the Senate race between Cruz and Beto,

00:00:47.680 who is a hardcore Hispanic, been Hispanic his whole life.

00:00:51.340 That's why his last name is O'Rourke.

00:00:53.060 Oh, I thought you were talking about Ted Cruz.

00:00:54.440 Oh, no, no, yeah.

00:00:55.360 There's Hispanic in the race.

00:00:56.580 It just happens to be Ted Cruz.

00:00:58.260 And we'll also go into CNN.

00:01:00.360 What is happening there?

00:01:01.820 You know, it seems like, you know, I think CNN does some good things,

00:01:04.800 but, man, I think they're going down the wrong road here

00:01:07.720 with the way they're turning into basically yet another opinion organization.

00:01:11.940 It sure does seem that way,

00:01:13.520 and that's not the way they've been presenting themselves for a long time,

00:01:18.160 and yet that's what we get.

00:01:20.000 And I will say this.

00:01:21.120 Nowhere in this podcast will you hear us trying some new kind of food.

00:01:24.880 There's no food.

00:01:26.140 We got no one delivering any treats to us.

00:01:28.700 As a matter of fact, that's very disappointing about this day.

00:01:31.060 Incredibly disappointing.

00:01:32.160 It's all coming up on the podcast.

00:01:33.200 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:01:46.100 It's Tuesday, August 28th.

00:01:48.540 Glenn Beck.

00:01:49.960 It's Pat and Stu and Jeffy for Glenn.

00:01:53.320 Triple eight.

00:01:56.080 727 back.

00:01:57.460 It's been a while, hasn't it?

00:01:58.220 It's been a while.

00:01:59.640 And with all these phone numbers to remember, I can't.

00:02:02.580 I'm just incapable of it now.

00:02:03.820 I'm too old, I think.

00:02:04.520 You mentioned on the little pre-show thing that the civil asset forfeiture situation,

00:02:14.880 which has gotten so out of control in this country.

00:02:18.080 We've talked about people who have been pulled over in Texas and they were on their way to

00:02:23.040 buy a car and they had, you know, 30 some thousand dollars with them.

00:02:27.280 And the law enforcement saw it, found it, took it, and they just lost it.

00:02:33.640 The guy with the pizza parlor who took his money to the bank every day, the cash that

00:02:40.740 he made and brought and took it from the till to the bank.

00:02:43.800 And because he was told, hey, if you deposit $10,000 in cash, they're going to flag that and

00:02:49.880 they're going to, you know, look into you because it might be a drug, it might be some

00:02:54.640 sort of drug deal when you're depositing that kind of money.

00:02:57.280 So he always brought in under $10,000 that got it flagged and they took it from him.

00:03:03.820 They took it from the guy at the airport that had the receipt for the money from the bank.

00:03:08.320 So that, cause they said, if you're going to travel, make sure you have the receipts

00:03:11.420 and proof that it's yours.

00:03:13.200 Nope.

00:03:13.660 We're taking that.

00:03:14.520 Yeah.

00:03:14.760 In one case guy got pulled over, had $91,000.

00:03:19.340 Uh, I forget what he was going to do with it.

00:03:21.140 He, um, he was, he was buying something too.

00:03:25.100 He was on his way, uh, to, to make some sort of purchase.

00:03:28.580 Um, I'm trying to think, cause I think I have the story here, but $91,000 and he took it

00:03:34.680 from him and he didn't get it back.

00:03:35.980 I mean, who cares what he wanted to do with his money?

00:03:39.080 Well, that's the thing.

00:03:39.820 I mean, it's supposed to be America.

00:03:41.760 If he winds up doing something with his money, that's illegal.

00:03:45.600 That's the time you charge him with it.

00:03:47.780 You don't just charge him for assuming he's doing something illegal.

00:03:51.880 Well, if you've got evidence, let's see it, you know, charge him with a crime, but they're

00:03:57.420 not doing that.

00:03:58.420 And, um, it's quite clearly the assumption of guilt rather than the assumption of innocence,

00:04:03.240 which is what our entire system is built up.

00:04:06.000 Exactly.

00:04:07.040 In 2016, there was a guy in Utah who got pulled over by the Utah highway patrol because he was

00:04:12.380 following a vehicle too closely.

00:04:13.940 So he's following too closely.

00:04:15.400 Man, they search his car and he's got a bag in it that has $500,000 in the bag.

00:04:22.500 They took it from him.

00:04:23.840 This was in 2016.

00:04:25.080 He still hasn't been charged with crime.

00:04:27.220 They don't have any evidence that it was a drug deal, uh, but they took half a million

00:04:32.960 dollars from him and he's been fighting ever since trying to get it back.

00:04:36.560 He went to all the way to the Utah Supreme court who just ruled that they have to give it

00:04:40.260 back to him.

00:04:40.820 Now they still haven't.

00:04:42.160 They still haven't because the feds and the state of Utah are fighting over how to divide

00:04:47.500 the money.

00:04:48.720 Uh, the federal government says, uh, it's ours.

00:04:50.760 It's all ours.

00:04:51.520 And, uh, the state is trying to take some of it.

00:04:54.380 So I mean, none of it is yours.

00:04:56.900 Give it back to the guy or charge him with a crime.

00:05:00.040 Let's see the evidence.

00:05:01.300 And I'd be interested in what caused them to actually search the car for driving too close

00:05:05.240 on the ticket.

00:05:05.940 I would too.

00:05:06.220 Did you?

00:05:06.900 It didn't, it didn't have that in the, um, in the story.

00:05:11.300 You think if you're, you're bringing around $500,000.

00:05:14.160 Oh, it says, okay.

00:05:15.100 A drug dog alerted authorities to the presence of narcotics, but none were found.

00:05:20.420 So there weren't any.

00:05:21.280 No, the money smelled like drugs.

00:05:23.260 That's what happens.

00:05:23.940 The dog smelled the money.

00:05:25.120 Okay.

00:05:25.460 And the drug dog thing, it can potentially have some value, but first of all, a dog is

00:05:29.980 not evidence.

00:05:31.000 Right.

00:05:31.180 Like it might give you a, I know, but what I'm saying is if you have, it may give you

00:05:36.880 the opportunity to search for evidence.

00:05:40.140 And, and, you know, there's a lot of, uh, stories out there about how unreliable, you

00:05:45.000 know, drug dogs are and they're, you know, I mean, they make mistakes.

00:05:48.120 They're not perfect.

00:05:48.800 Like they're not, you know, they're, it's not, it's not science, right?

00:05:52.060 It's just like, you know, they, they might give you an indication is about all it's worth.

00:05:55.220 And you're suspicious of somebody who's carrying around $500,000 because who carries around

00:06:01.420 $500,000?

00:06:02.660 Well, I don't know, but he's an American.

00:06:05.160 So if he has $500,000 and you don't have any evidence that he got it illegally, well,

00:06:11.880 again, the drug dog alerted them that there might, that there was, there was possible drugs,

00:06:16.540 but then there wasn't, then there was no drugs.

00:06:18.080 Right.

00:06:18.620 So, so leave him alone, give him back his money, send him on his way.

00:06:21.900 How can, how can it still be America when you can just have your property seized like

00:06:28.020 that?

00:06:28.300 And there's plenty of departments.

00:06:29.320 That was the big fight with, uh, when the sheriffs, uh, went to DC and talked to Trump,

00:06:34.360 right?

00:06:34.520 They were all for that.

00:06:35.480 And the, cause those departments are, they're, they're using the, Hey, we're stopping drugs

00:06:40.340 as a good benefit to enhance income for those departments.

00:06:44.360 And I'm sure it is, but you better be charging people with a crime.

00:06:48.220 If you're going to take their property, they, they better have gotten it illegally.

00:06:51.880 Whatever it is in too many cases, you've just taken law abiding American citizens, hard

00:06:58.120 earned, in some cases, life savings from them.

00:07:02.300 That's unbelievable to me.

00:07:04.380 And there are a lot of law enforcement officials who are, who support this really strongly.

00:07:09.520 And they say, look, it makes it a lot easier to get convictions.

00:07:12.060 Well, of course it does.

00:07:12.820 When you take everybody's stuff and, uh, and then you figure it out later, you know, yeah,

00:07:19.900 it's going to be easier to get convictions.

00:07:21.740 And sometimes those convictions will be accurate.

00:07:24.000 However, there is a presumption of innocence in our society.

00:07:27.820 It's supposed to be that way.

00:07:29.400 And the idea that you can just flip that upside down and say, well, we're going to take your

00:07:33.600 stuff until we figure it out is completely wrong.

00:07:36.320 Yeah.

00:07:36.820 Completely wrong.

00:07:37.440 Yeah.

00:07:37.840 Uh, and then beyond that, institutional.

00:07:39.580 Yeah.

00:07:39.780 To take pieces of it because you think you've gone through some, some efforts to check out

00:07:44.640 the story.

00:07:45.100 Like, no, you should be paying them.

00:07:46.800 Um, I mean like it's closer to rational for the state to pay someone in where they have

00:07:53.220 taken them into custody incorrectly, uh, or, uh, have handled them in some wrong way

00:07:58.280 than it is the other way around.

00:07:59.460 I mean, the fact that you're taking my money and then you're going to take a piece of it

00:08:02.560 for your trouble.

00:08:03.580 Like you didn't do me a service.

00:08:07.300 I just, you know, it's tough to say.

00:08:09.540 I know Jeff Sessions is a big proponent of this.

00:08:11.920 Uh, he's huge.

00:08:13.360 He's huge on this.

00:08:14.380 And he pushes the president actually.

00:08:16.220 Now the president, and this is one of the very few things anymore.

00:08:19.040 They actually agree on apparently, uh, but it's not, it's just not right.

00:08:23.560 And it's, you know, while at times it feels like it would be the right thing to do.

00:08:27.640 And you might say to yourself, well, I would never bring around $500,000 in cash.

00:08:33.280 Are we progressives?

00:08:34.920 Are we, are we hardcore leftists where we say we get to tell that much around?

00:08:39.500 Are we the people that get to say to others how much of their own money they get to bring

00:08:45.000 in their own car?

00:08:46.120 Yeah.

00:08:46.240 Is that really the position we want to take?

00:08:48.120 You have to ask yourself, is it illegal in the United States of America to carry cash

00:08:52.360 with you?

00:08:53.140 I mean, if it is.

00:08:54.220 A large sum.

00:08:54.840 Show me the law.

00:08:55.860 Yeah.

00:08:56.260 Because it's not.

00:08:57.320 Right.

00:08:57.800 It's not illegal to bring your money somewhere.

00:09:01.260 If I want to, if, if I want to carry 500 million with me in cash, if I have that kind of money,

00:09:07.120 I, I should be able to.

00:09:08.940 And, and if I get pulled over, nobody should be able to take it from me.

00:09:13.220 It's, it's un-American and it's unconstitutional.

00:09:17.000 And it's amazing how many people, how many politicians are in favor of it.

00:09:21.480 Yeah.

00:09:21.900 You know, and I, I'm surprised.

00:09:23.640 It's not supposed to be easy to get convictions.

00:09:26.240 It's supposed to be hard.

00:09:27.500 There's a burden of proof.

00:09:28.920 Right.

00:09:29.100 Exactly.

00:09:29.460 It should be hard.

00:09:29.920 I mean, if you're going to take, I mean, think about what's happening here.

00:09:33.100 You're taking constitutional rights away from someone, right?

00:09:37.640 You're taking away the, the light, the, the right to pursue happiness, right?

00:09:42.880 Yeah.

00:09:43.340 Because you're in prison.

00:09:45.140 You're taking away your second amendment rights.

00:09:47.020 You'll probably never get them back if you're a felon.

00:09:49.460 There are a lot of things you're just ripping away.

00:09:52.460 The right of free association you're taking away.

00:09:54.860 You're taking away tons of things that are constitutionally guaranteed.

00:09:57.900 And of course the constitution does not guarantee them when you commit crimes, when you commit

00:10:02.780 crimes, you lose those rights, you lose voting rights.

00:10:05.120 Right.

00:10:05.620 Okay.

00:10:05.980 So these are really important issues that should have a very high standard of proof.

00:10:11.820 They should have a burden that is difficult for the state to accomplish.

00:10:15.940 We should be letting go some people who are guilty.

00:10:20.740 We should be every once in a while erring on that side instead of the other.

00:10:25.780 And of course we all want someone who's guilty to go to prison and, and, and deal with those

00:10:32.080 consequences.

00:10:32.620 I, you know, I, both, one of the most important issues to me is, is law enforcement and the,

00:10:38.800 you know, police generally speaking do an incredible job.

00:10:41.980 I mean, a hell of a lot better in this for this society than I am.

00:10:44.860 And certainly Jeffy, obviously, uh, I mean, that didn't need to be said, no, I don't think.

00:10:50.340 Um, but, but you can't, you just because we want to take criminals off the streets does

00:10:57.360 not mean we can reverse the constitution to make it easier.

00:11:00.280 We can't do that.

00:11:01.540 That's not something that the reason the constitution is there is to protect about these, uh, against

00:11:06.180 these things.

00:11:06.560 And I'm surprised there's not more of an uprising on this because it's one of those issues

00:11:10.220 you'd think both the left and the right could agree private property being taken by the

00:11:15.420 government right in the conservative wheelhouse.

00:11:18.040 Yeah.

00:11:18.580 What do you mean you're taking my government or my, like, you know, my money for nothing.

00:11:23.100 And then the left should agree with us too.

00:11:25.080 You know, they're always complaining about how the police do things that are, uh, are wrong

00:11:30.640 and taking advantage of people who they shouldn't take advantage of.

00:11:33.700 I mean, there's stories from Chicago where people, and there's this story about a guy, uh,

00:11:38.320 who was in Chicago and he, uh, was a, um, uh, a car repair technician.

00:11:44.760 Oh, right.

00:11:45.140 And yeah.

00:11:45.880 And so he took his car, uh, and gave a ride to someone who brought his car into this, to

00:11:51.480 a shop gave, you know, he'd give rides to people to work or wherever they needed to go.

00:11:55.380 And while he was on the way, giving a ride to someone else, the car got pulled over for

00:12:01.080 what they said was a broken taillight.

00:12:02.460 And he denies, but when they, when they, they decided to take the people out of the car and

00:12:06.380 search them, when they search them, the passenger, the customer was found with heroin.

00:12:11.080 Okay.

00:12:11.760 Now, is he supposed to, you know, frisk every customer that comes into his office?

00:12:16.240 The customer is caught with it.

00:12:17.840 They take his car, impound it, and he's been fighting for years to get it back.

00:12:23.220 Oh my gosh.

00:12:23.760 Not to mention all of his tools, thousands of dollars of tools were in the trunk of the

00:12:27.420 car and he couldn't get those back either.

00:12:29.220 So he did nothing wrong, was never charged with anything wrong, was never suspected of doing

00:12:32.760 anything wrong, and they took his car away for multiple years.

00:12:35.960 I think it's still ongoing, at least last I checked.

00:12:38.120 That's incredible.

00:12:38.300 It's cost him thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars, more than the car was

00:12:42.580 worth he's paid to try to get the car back, because all the tools are on the back of his

00:12:47.100 car, and he can't do his work without them.

00:12:51.240 This is insanity.

00:12:52.260 And I guarantee you, they're charging him to keep the car.

00:12:54.800 Yeah, they are.

00:12:55.640 That's the fees, and he can't pay.

00:12:57.400 He can't work, so he can't get the money to pay the impound fees, and then as he doesn't

00:13:05.100 pay the impound fees, they get fines on top of the fees, and he has to keep going back

00:13:10.720 to court and hiring lawyers.

00:13:12.560 I mean, it's insanity, and there's no reason for it.

00:13:16.480 I can't understand why people just aren't up in arms over this issue.

00:13:20.680 We should be protesting in the streets on this, because it's one of the most un-American

00:13:28.000 things I think I've ever seen in my lifetime.

00:13:30.960 This is as bad as it gets in a free society, because you're not free if we're able to do

00:13:39.740 this.

00:13:40.720 There's no proof.

00:13:41.860 There's no evidence.

00:13:43.400 There's no due process.

00:13:44.840 Well, it's possible, though.

00:13:46.200 It's possible you did something wrong.

00:13:47.780 It is possible.

00:13:48.400 It is possible.

00:13:49.360 Right.

00:13:49.600 It is possible.

00:13:50.680 So, lock him up.

00:13:52.840 Safety first.

00:13:53.760 Spend his money.

00:13:54.580 Better safe than sorry.

00:13:55.680 Throw him in prison.

00:13:57.360 No, that's not how this works.

00:13:59.000 That isn't.

00:14:01.780 The best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:14:10.220 You know what I want?

00:14:11.720 Really insightful political commentary.

00:14:14.180 The first place I go to is ESPN.

00:14:16.360 That's where you're going to find out what really is going on politically in this world.

00:14:20.980 Don't you agree?

00:14:21.640 I mean, that is really the hub for political discourse.

00:14:27.300 It does seem to be their goal.

00:14:28.580 It does, doesn't it?

00:14:29.280 To be the hub of political discourse.

00:14:31.480 Now, there's rumors that they are trying to reverse that.

00:14:34.680 The big step that they've taken recently is blowing out Jemele Hill, one of their supposed rising stars very recently.

00:14:42.920 Yeah, I saw that they just came to some agreement with her to part.

00:14:46.300 Yeah.

00:14:46.500 So, she started out, she was on SportsCenter, and they kind of did this thing with her as a star of SportsCenter, one of the hours, and they tried to really customize it for her and her on-air partner.

00:14:57.140 And they tried to make it into a big deal.

00:14:58.360 It was very much, you know, sort of a social justice tilt on the news of sports.

00:15:03.820 And that wasn't working out so well.

00:15:05.920 The ratings were not good.

00:15:07.260 They spent a fortune on the show and got nothing out of it.

00:15:09.740 And then she started tweeting constantly about how bad Trump was and how evil he was and how he was a racist and everything else.

00:15:15.900 And, of course, that pisses off half the audience at ESPN.

00:15:19.100 Or more.

00:15:19.420 So, they took her off of SportsCenter and tossed her over to this thing called The Undefeated, which is like a sort of, like, side website that only deals with, like, racial issues in sports.

00:15:31.720 And they were like, hey, why don't you go hang out over there?

00:15:34.800 And I guess even that, she's even too crazy for that world because now that's not working out.

00:15:42.440 They're saying it's amicable, but everyone seems to be speculating that basically she was fired.

00:15:48.160 And now, you know, likely she'll go even deeper into that world, right?

00:15:51.340 She'll certainly be embraced by some left-wing publication or think tank or something that has probably nothing to do with sports because of the stand she took.

00:15:59.760 That's what happens to the left.

00:16:01.160 They get rewarded for these things.

00:16:02.380 Oh, she'll go work for The New York Times.

00:16:03.800 She'll be fine.

00:16:05.380 She probably will.

00:16:06.100 She probably will hire this a columnist.

00:16:07.900 I mean, you can tweet about how you want all white people dead and get a column at The New York Times.

00:16:13.700 You know, even if you're joking, I mean, I certainly would not be allowed for conservatives.

00:16:18.660 No way.

00:16:19.160 So, there are rumors that ESPN's okay.

00:16:24.260 We've gone down this wrong road.

00:16:26.300 We're seeing that people hate it.

00:16:28.560 Let's try to reverse it.

00:16:29.720 It's going to be tough.

00:16:30.300 When you go down that road too far, it's hard to reverse those things.

00:16:34.260 But, you know, at least today's news does not seem like they've made strides yet.

00:16:38.820 No, not when you see Tiger Woods saying, hey, you've got to respect the office of the presidency because he was – I think he was being baited into bashing the president.

00:16:51.260 Right.

00:16:51.460 Yeah, I don't think he wanted to.

00:16:52.740 No, because I guess he plays golf with Trump occasionally.

00:16:55.640 Yeah.

00:16:55.720 They've been friendly over the years.

00:16:57.240 I think they have a relationship.

00:16:57.960 Yeah, I don't think they're tight friends, but they're acquaintances.

00:17:02.240 And I don't know Tiger's political ideology.

00:17:06.120 Do you?

00:17:06.580 No, and isn't that great?

00:17:07.960 Yeah, it's fine.

00:17:09.020 In fact, it is great.

00:17:10.840 It's great.

00:17:11.500 I don't want to know.

00:17:12.420 I just want to watch him play golf.

00:17:14.140 Yeah.

00:17:14.600 I mean, look, he's absolutely free to express that if he wants.

00:17:18.320 He obviously doesn't want to.

00:17:20.460 He knows better.

00:17:21.180 Right.

00:17:21.540 Right?

00:17:21.880 You know everything about the guy.

00:17:23.120 Why would you limit your fan base?

00:17:24.620 Well, he's not.

00:17:25.400 He's not doing that.

00:17:26.640 So, he said, you've got to respect the office.

00:17:28.700 Well, Max Kellerman of that show.

00:17:31.560 Oh, no.

00:17:31.680 What is the name of that show with him and Stephen A. Smith where they yell everything

00:17:36.080 they say?

00:17:36.820 First take.

00:17:37.300 Yeah.

00:17:37.480 They scream everything they say.

00:17:39.440 No matter what it is.

00:17:40.540 They yell at the top of their lungs.

00:17:42.220 That is true, isn't it?

00:17:43.480 Yeah.

00:17:43.620 Yeah.

00:17:43.980 I mean, I.

00:17:45.120 Really annoying.

00:17:45.760 It makes you, like, cognizant of not doing that when you're doing a show because you realize

00:17:49.960 it's not.

00:17:51.080 No, that's really annoying.

00:17:52.260 It kind of is.

00:17:53.780 And I love Stephen A. Smith.

00:17:55.540 He's a brave guy.

00:17:57.300 You know, the fact that he stood up.

00:17:58.920 I like him better than Kellerman, that's for sure.

00:18:00.540 Yeah.

00:18:00.940 I mean, you know, Stephen A. Smith has stood up in really difficult situations.

00:18:06.200 Taking strong stands.

00:18:06.720 Taking strong stands.

00:18:08.080 Many times against what you would expect.

00:18:11.660 Yeah.

00:18:12.460 And, you know.

00:18:13.440 Unrace.

00:18:14.060 Supporting Republicans and, you know, trying to speak, I think, truth about some of the

00:18:19.680 issues that are out there, black-white issues.

00:18:23.060 And, you know, I don't always agree with the guy.

00:18:24.520 But that's one of the reasons why you actually listen to him is because you realize occasionally

00:18:29.640 he'll say something that you don't expect.

00:18:32.020 You know, he'll go the other way.

00:18:33.460 And he'll challenge his own audience.

00:18:35.380 And that's what I love.

00:18:36.760 I want that from a host.

00:18:38.120 Yeah, me too.

00:18:39.320 Well, Kellerman took issue with Tiger Woods saying that you should respect the office.

00:18:46.660 Here's what he said yesterday.

00:18:48.380 I want to say something about what Tiger Woods said.

00:18:50.300 Okay, go ahead.

00:18:52.460 It really bothers me.

00:18:53.740 I don't—I'm angry at what Tiger Woods said because it is a thoughtless statement dressed

00:18:59.820 up as a thoughtful statement.

00:19:01.260 And it either holds in contempt the intelligence of the people who hear it or else it's just

00:19:05.820 a stupid thing to say.

00:19:07.260 Let me tell you what I mean.

00:19:09.080 If to say that the office—you must have respect for the office.

00:19:13.900 Tiger, be clear.

00:19:15.360 Are you saying that the office therefore confers respect onto its occupant, its present temporary

00:19:21.440 occupant?

00:19:22.120 No.

00:19:23.120 What the—what the—having respect for the office means principally, in my view, is

00:19:28.200 the office holder should have respect for the office.

00:19:30.440 That's the issue that the African-American community has always had because, obviously,

00:19:34.280 from a historical perspective, you know, if one-third of you has a darker hue, a darker pigmentation,

00:19:40.360 you know, the bottom line is you are black and it is that simple.

00:19:42.740 And you—you get it—it ain't even one-third.

00:19:44.660 I'm just throwing that out there.

00:19:45.360 One-eighth.

00:19:46.360 One-eighth, exactly.

00:19:47.540 So what I'm saying to you is that, clearly, you are perceived as being a black man.

00:19:52.300 And even though you didn't want to disassociate yourself from your mother's ethnicity, who

00:19:57.240 is Ty, I believe, the bottom line is that that's the reason why he took that position.

00:20:01.680 But black Americans haven't respected that for Tiger for quite some time.

00:20:04.740 They haven't heard Tiger speak on a plethora of issues pertaining to having a social consciousness

00:20:09.520 on many, many occasions.

00:20:11.160 That is something that people have lamented as well.

00:20:12.940 Stephen, kind of a weird discussion there because one of them is talking about the office

00:20:17.180 of the presidency and respecting it.

00:20:18.900 The other one is talking about something Tiger said a long time ago or that he's always maintained

00:20:24.820 was that he was—he's mixed race.

00:20:27.780 Yeah, he's not black enough.

00:20:29.200 And so if you don't, I guess, ignore whatever white portion of you there is, then you're—

00:20:39.320 You're not woke.

00:20:40.100 Yeah, you're not—you're a terrible person.

00:20:42.060 Well, why should he deny his—any of his ethnicity?

00:20:48.660 I don't understand that.

00:20:50.580 I don't understand any of it, to be honest with you.

00:20:52.440 I do—there is—I get no part of my life, my personality, the things I do every day.

00:21:01.880 I get none of it from my race.

00:21:05.340 I literally never think about it at all.

00:21:08.160 I mean, that's your—

00:21:08.900 Personally, that's your white privilege, speaking.

00:21:10.700 Oh, I know, and I think people would legitimately argue that, right?

00:21:13.300 Like, if—

00:21:13.500 You know what, they would.

00:21:13.940 Maybe if you're, you know, you're black, that is a bigger part.

00:21:16.020 It's such a white thing to say.

00:21:17.320 It is a white thing to say.

00:21:18.420 But I never understand—this is why I never understand things like the alt-right.

00:21:23.160 You know, like, I don't care.

00:21:25.260 Don't care about it.

00:21:25.700 Don't care about it at all.

00:21:26.720 Don't think about it.

00:21:27.480 It's complete—just like, you know, the size of your hands or, you know, whether you have

00:21:33.380 acne or not is not a characteristic that I care about.

00:21:36.980 Like, none of those—they're just—it's just a physical characteristic that means nothing.

00:21:40.820 Who cares?

00:21:42.400 And so much—so many people are so obsessed with it.

00:21:46.700 I mean, it flies directly in the face of what Martin Luther King wanted, which is he wanted

00:21:51.280 people not to care.

00:21:52.560 He wanted people to not care about the color of the skin, care about the content of the character.

00:21:57.380 And now, the enlightened left has done—has instituted this way of thinking that every

00:22:04.740 single decision you make, every comment you make about every story must be filtered through

00:22:11.140 the lens of race or gender or some other physically identifiable characteristic, which is insanity.

00:22:21.280 Sexual preference.

00:22:21.880 Sexual preference.

00:22:23.060 None of that makes any difference.

00:22:24.920 Does—do you ever—I just—I never—does anybody go through their life thinking like

00:22:30.580 that?

00:22:31.360 Do you go through your life thinking, wow, I would like to do this, but I'm going to do

00:22:34.260 the reverse because of my skin color?

00:22:36.200 Who does that?

00:22:37.300 It's stupid.

00:22:38.380 It's a dumb way to live.

00:22:39.760 And I understand why there's—because in our history, there have been real problems in

00:22:45.400 this area.

00:22:46.280 And the fact that it's part of your, you know, your lineage is something that obviously,

00:22:50.480 you know, people will consider as part of their everyday life.

00:22:55.040 But the idea that Tiger—the idea that we can't have one person who doesn't talk about

00:22:59.560 this stuff.

00:22:59.880 We can't have one freaking sports celebrity who doesn't go up in front, in front of the

00:23:05.520 nation and bash the president every five minutes.

00:23:08.320 Really?

00:23:09.200 We have a litany.

00:23:11.120 The entire National Basketball Association seems to be set up to oppose Donald Trump.

00:23:17.020 That's a fact.

00:23:18.120 Every big celebrity takes stance against this guy every day.

00:23:21.820 The National Football League.

00:23:23.520 There are a lot of people in the National Football League who are kneeling at the anthem, and

00:23:27.140 even when they're not kneeling, saying, well, you know, Trump is wrong for getting involved

00:23:32.040 in this.

00:23:33.120 Can we have one guy who, by the way, is in the middle of a return from a career crisis where

00:23:40.080 he should be focusing on trying to win tournaments, can we have one guy who's not constantly talking

00:23:48.320 about politics?

00:23:49.020 Can we have one?

00:23:50.420 Can we have one person?

00:23:52.600 If you're to listen to Kellerman and Stephen A., the answer is no.

00:23:55.820 No.

00:23:56.340 We're not allowed to.

00:23:57.080 They can't let him just be him.

00:23:59.820 Every single person of prominence must take a position on politics.

00:24:04.820 And it has to be against, or you get bashed for that, too.

00:24:07.760 It's not just taking a position.

00:24:08.900 It's got to be the right position.

00:24:10.620 Yeah.

00:24:11.120 Oh, absolutely it does.

00:24:12.440 And like, you know what I want is almost no one doing it.

00:24:15.420 My choice is, you know what?

00:24:16.880 Look, I understand that people are people, and why should it be that you and I should

00:24:21.460 get along so awfully?

00:24:22.720 I understand that people are going to take stances.

00:24:24.400 That makes plenty of sense, right?

00:24:27.720 People are going to take their stances in their personal life.

00:24:30.260 You can't stop them.

00:24:30.940 You shouldn't discourage them from doing it.

00:24:32.760 But as a person who wants to escape this world and nonsense every day and go to sports, which

00:24:37.980 is why it exists, it doesn't have any importance outside of that, I would love to not hear about

00:24:45.980 your political views all the time.

00:24:48.120 People come to this stupid show to hear political views.

00:24:51.700 Yeah.

00:24:51.820 Well, you don't go to the NFL or the NBA or the PGA to hear that.

00:24:56.380 You go there to escape from it, to run as fast as you can away from it.

00:25:01.000 It's interesting, though.

00:25:01.760 All the sports guys want to talk about politics, and all the politics guys want to talk about

00:25:05.780 sports.

00:25:06.900 By the way.

00:25:08.220 Maybe we just switch positions with Max and Stephen A.

00:25:12.520 Maybe that's what we do.

00:25:15.080 That's a good idea, Pat.

00:25:16.780 You guys, come on in.

00:25:18.320 The water sucks.

00:25:19.720 Yeah, let's switch shows.

00:25:20.380 Come on in.

00:25:21.120 Let's trade.

00:25:22.560 Let's check it out.

00:25:23.280 We'll go over there.

00:25:23.940 We'll talk some sports.

00:25:25.100 And you know what we'll do is we will not get into any of these issues.

00:25:28.540 Right.

00:25:28.640 We'll talk about what quarterback is going to win a quarterback battle.

00:25:34.480 We're going to talk about what running back should win the position battle there.

00:25:38.900 We'll go into what the defensive changes mean for the new coordinator.

00:25:43.440 Right.

00:25:43.720 And people might be bored out of their minds, but, man, we'll love it.

00:25:47.040 I don't know if anyone cares about the actual sports anymore.

00:25:50.860 I do.

00:25:51.200 Everyone wants to talk about culture.

00:25:52.260 I do.

00:25:53.120 Yeah, good.

00:25:53.800 College football really kicks into gear in earnest this weekend.

00:25:57.800 I'm pretty excited about that.

00:25:59.280 Pretty excited.

00:26:00.400 And then it's the week after.

00:26:02.720 It's, what, two weeks from now.

00:26:04.380 Yeah, two weeks from Thursday.

00:26:05.500 For the NFL.

00:26:05.600 The NFL is, you'll notice the Atlanta Falcons playing the defending Super Bowl champion Philadelphia Eagles.

00:26:11.600 I hate this.

00:26:12.300 It feels good.

00:26:13.200 Who's Malcolm Jenkins is still kneeling.

00:26:15.940 He still is.

00:26:16.880 But, again, that's what it makes, that's another part of this that's so funny.

00:26:20.780 Malcolm Jenkins is a great player.

00:26:22.880 Yeah.

00:26:23.240 You know what?

00:26:23.900 So, they don't care.

00:26:25.580 They don't care.

00:26:25.880 The Eagles will sit there and sit through as much, you know, Eagles fans will sit through

00:26:29.480 as much kneeling as he wants to do because they want to win the Super Bowl.

00:26:32.880 Exactly.

00:26:33.240 No, he's just resting up for the game.

00:26:35.060 He's not kneeling.

00:26:35.760 And the same thing would happen with Colin Kaepernick if he didn't suck.

00:26:39.500 Yeah.

00:26:39.900 That's true.

00:26:40.200 If he wasn't a terrible quarterback, he would have had a job a long time ago.

00:26:43.440 Yeah.

00:26:43.720 And people would look past him.

00:26:44.480 Well, and he was offered them, and we know that now.

00:26:46.160 Yeah.

00:26:46.620 Absolutely.

00:26:46.700 From several NFL teams, including the Seahawks and the Broncos, offered him quarterback positions.

00:26:53.920 He turned them down.

00:26:55.200 So, that's on you, man.

00:26:56.540 That's on you.

00:26:57.260 And they wanted to keep that storyline alive.

00:26:59.540 They wanted you to believe so badly that people wouldn't hire him because he was taking a stand on race.

00:27:05.700 Oh, shut up.

00:27:06.380 And they kept that alive for how long?

00:27:07.900 And now that we know the other side of it, there's no impact.

00:27:11.500 Not a beat, no.

00:27:12.000 They've already got their points out of it.

00:27:13.640 Yeah.

00:27:14.260 Amazing.

00:27:14.740 You know, it was fatiguing, though.

00:27:16.100 And Jeffy and I have talked about this a couple times in the last couple of weeks.

00:27:20.440 On what show?

00:27:20.900 On Pat Gray Unleashed, which immediately follows this one on the boys' radio television network.

00:27:26.480 Every day.

00:27:27.460 Every day.

00:27:28.020 Yeah, about 1230.

00:27:29.140 An hour with chewing the fat?

00:27:30.160 Mm-hmm.

00:27:30.740 So, don't look at me like that.

00:27:33.340 We couldn't help but notice, you know, how fatiguing it was to continually see the NFL players during the offseason.

00:27:40.960 Oh.

00:27:41.140 And their protests on the street corners and everywhere they were.

00:27:45.520 And you just couldn't get away from them and their protests and their social justice because, man, did we see them everywhere?

00:27:51.560 We sure didn't.

00:27:52.320 Except for Wade.

00:27:53.520 I didn't see them anywhere.

00:27:55.580 So, and then I hear, you know, how important this is to them.

00:27:59.580 Well, you only want to do it on game day when nobody wants to see it.

00:28:03.100 Where are you the rest of the time?

00:28:04.880 You could even do it during the game, just not through the anthem, and no one would oppose it.

00:28:09.160 I mean, look, I would still disagree probably with some of your points.

00:28:12.600 Yeah, because they don't know what they're talking about.

00:28:14.160 You just don't do it during the freaking song, will ya?

00:28:16.320 Yeah.

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00:28:43.960 Here's another sports figure jumping into the middle of politics.

00:28:47.680 Lance Armstrong.

00:28:49.040 He is now throwing his support behind senatorial candidate Beto O'Rourke.

00:28:55.520 Oh, that makes me.

00:28:56.600 The Irish-American guy with a Hispanic nickname running against Ted Cruz, an actual Latino.

00:29:04.020 Which is incredible.

00:29:05.720 Incredible.

00:29:06.320 It's the weirdest thing.

00:29:08.220 Like, everybody believes there's a Hispanic in the race, and it's the Irish guy.

00:29:12.360 No!

00:29:13.460 He's not.

00:29:14.640 Anyway, Lance Armstrong sent out this tweet.

00:29:19.740 Dear my fellow Texans, we have a choice.

00:29:22.420 This guy, meaning Beto O'Rourke, or Ted Cruz, it's time for reasonable and balanced talk on all issues.

00:29:30.300 We are for Beto O'Rourke.

00:29:32.660 Are you?

00:29:33.580 No, we are not.

00:29:36.340 You know, I've been waiting so long to be advised by a manipulative lying cheater.

00:29:43.160 And now, finally, finally, he stepped up to the plate and took a swing.

00:29:49.720 Did we, was he asked, or is he doing this on his own?

00:29:52.640 No, he's just doing this on his own.

00:29:53.660 Well, bless his heart.

00:29:54.320 Just tweeted it out.

00:29:55.060 Wasn't that big of him?

00:29:55.900 Trying to be relevant.

00:29:56.640 That's great.

00:29:56.880 That's good.

00:29:57.440 Here's a guy who lied to us for, I don't know, 20 years?

00:30:02.360 His entire career.

00:30:04.360 And I made, I believed him.

00:30:07.240 I did.

00:30:07.620 And I defended him over and over and over.

00:30:12.820 And, and then he just beat us over the head with, nope, I lied the whole time.

00:30:18.160 Sorry.

00:30:18.860 Yeah, I destroyed anybody who tried to say that I might have been on steroids.

00:30:22.960 And I just, I just ruined careers and fired people and belittled them and embarrassed them.

00:30:32.480 But don't worry about any of that.

00:30:34.140 I've been lying the whole time.

00:30:35.400 Yeah, I did everything I wasn't supposed to.

00:30:37.040 I broke all the rules I wasn't supposed to just to, just to win.

00:30:39.920 Hey, but trust me this time on Beto O'Rourke.

00:30:42.800 Okay.

00:30:43.420 Thank you.

00:30:44.000 Is it possible he's actually working for the Cruz campaign?

00:30:48.940 Now that would be.

00:30:49.860 He's just kind of like, hey, trust me, Lance Armstrong.

00:30:53.400 Beto O'Rourke is the right choice.

00:30:56.580 That's the way you do it.

00:30:58.300 I wish that were true.

00:31:00.380 I wish that were true too.

00:31:01.840 That's a great idea.

00:31:03.180 You should just start taking all the people that are, are not trustworthy, that no one likes.

00:31:09.360 It's like, you know, every, and just have them all run around Texas and campaign for Beto.

00:31:13.880 And Charlie Sheen.

00:31:16.220 Like any, you know, criminals.

00:31:18.780 Everybody who's been discredited.

00:31:20.080 Right.

00:31:20.300 I like that.

00:31:21.180 Yeah, I like it.

00:31:22.020 That's smart.

00:31:22.500 That's smart baseball right there.

00:31:23.620 Did you see the poll that came out yesterday from Emerson that had Ted up by one point in

00:31:28.760 this race?

00:31:29.760 One point.

00:31:30.580 That is amazing.

00:31:31.460 I don't know that I buy it.

00:31:32.460 Now, well, I, it's interesting because I saw kind of a breakdown of this.

00:31:37.080 It was, they had, they surveyed 550 voters, but they were registered voters, not likely voters.

00:31:45.740 Okay.

00:31:46.540 And that usually famous Democrats.

00:31:49.120 Yeah.

00:31:49.360 That taints it a little bit.

00:31:50.660 And I do kind of buy Glenn's analogy on this, uh, on this race where when, when you get in,

00:31:56.200 you know, for right now when asked, you know, about Cruz, this is a way for, uh, Cruz fans

00:32:02.440 that work Ted Cruz fans to be able to say, you know, Ted, we're still mad at you a little

00:32:07.280 bit.

00:32:08.100 Yeah.

00:32:08.400 It could be that.

00:32:09.300 It could be some of that.

00:32:10.400 When you get in the booth, you're still going to vote for him.

00:32:12.300 I don't see, I don't see the race being close after the election.

00:32:16.720 You know, I think, I think the votes Ted will win by quite a bit.

00:32:20.300 You know, it's, it's interesting.

00:32:22.400 I, I think it's going to be fairly close.

00:32:25.080 I think you're right.

00:32:26.320 You know, the issue with Cruz.

00:32:27.560 It should be a blowout.

00:32:28.900 I mean, it's by rights, it should be a blowout.

00:32:31.680 Yeah.

00:32:32.040 You know, with Cruz has a situation, uh, which is interesting in that I think he's, he's

00:32:38.200 done a pretty good job as a Senator.

00:32:40.340 I mean, he's been, he's been pretty consistently conservative.

00:32:42.700 I like his voting record quite a bit.

00:32:44.240 There's very few stances that he's taken that I, that I, I don't like, but again, the politics

00:32:50.240 is no longer related to policy.

00:32:53.500 All the things that we've talked about all these years really don't affect the general.

00:32:58.300 I mean, they affect people listening to the show right now because that's what they care

00:33:01.080 about, but the average person, it's all about feelings and emotion.

00:33:04.940 And for, with Cruz, he has a weird, obviously no one on the left likes him.

00:33:10.240 So, and everyone's excited about Beto here in Texas, but on the other side of it is you

00:33:15.580 have people who loved Trump from the beginning, who, uh, who were pissed off at Cruz because

00:33:21.380 they obviously fought in the primaries and then he didn't endorse him at the, at the convention

00:33:25.000 and they've never really forgiven him.

00:33:26.420 So while they might get in there and again, those people made arguments to us the entire

00:33:30.900 time about it being a binary choice.

00:33:32.780 I assume when they go back in there, they're going to see a binary choice and pick Cruz.

00:33:36.020 Right.

00:33:36.520 Right.

00:33:36.860 But that doesn't mean they're not pissed off about it.

00:33:39.360 Yeah.

00:33:39.500 So they might be pissed off that he took that stand that time.

00:33:41.960 On the other side, the people who are not Trump, uh, friendly, who loved Cruz at the

00:33:47.960 beginning were annoyed at the way he handled his endorsement.

00:33:51.700 And those people are like, well, it seems like you've kind of just become every other

00:33:56.380 Senator in Washington that does nothing but kiss the administration's butt.

00:34:00.680 And so those people aren't too passionate about it either, but the vast majority of those

00:34:05.420 people will also go in there and see it as a binary choice and pick them.

00:34:08.600 Um, so I think in the end he probably wins the race, uh, and it's probably a five, I don't

00:34:14.300 know, five point type of margin, but it's got, it's closer than it should be, especially

00:34:19.980 for Cruz's record.

00:34:21.160 I mean, his record is good.

00:34:22.460 His record is really good.

00:34:23.760 It's really good.

00:34:24.720 He's done very little incorrect on policy.

00:34:26.900 Yeah.

00:34:27.240 And, and for anybody who's still pissed off about the Trump thing, either way, it's time

00:34:31.640 to get over that and realize ancient history.

00:34:34.140 He's being out, out raised fundraisers two to one by Beto O'Rourke.

00:34:40.800 It's amazing.

00:34:41.480 Two to one because all of this out of state money is pouring in from California and New

00:34:47.320 York and probably Cuba and China and who knows where this socialist money is coming

00:34:54.060 from.

00:34:54.840 But, uh, it's a lot, there's a lot of it for Beto.

00:34:58.000 He's a, for some reason, he's a superstar right now.

00:35:00.600 I don't even understand it.

00:35:01.740 They're seeing him as the new Obama, like he's, you know, he's, he's young, he's a white

00:35:06.100 guy.

00:35:06.900 Oh, he's Hispanic for somebody who's not Hispanic, by the way, they're dying for somebody new

00:35:11.540 who's Hispanic from Texas.

00:35:14.100 And he's not Hispanic, by the way.

00:35:16.600 It's interesting because they had this huge article on him.

00:35:21.080 Oh, they followed him around the other day.

00:35:23.040 They followed him around.

00:35:23.740 They have followed that guy around and treated him.

00:35:25.580 They came to Texas and followed Beto around on his little run, March phone call thing

00:35:31.120 with him for days.

00:35:32.520 And then went back to New York and called Ted Cruz.

00:35:35.960 Um, well, maybe you, I don't know, maybe you're in Texas.

00:35:38.720 Maybe you stop by.

00:35:39.840 Yeah.

00:35:40.220 And I saw a huge, huge article on him, uh, on some website.

00:35:44.420 It was, it was like the eighth paragraph before it finally said, oh, this was the article.

00:35:50.420 So this was the article that claimed that he is, uh, providing his rise in Texas is providing

00:35:58.120 hope for Hispanics.

00:36:00.420 What?

00:36:01.280 Why?

00:36:01.880 Why?

00:36:02.240 Why?

00:36:02.780 So it was the Hispanic and the racist Cruz.

00:36:05.780 Right.

00:36:06.240 Exactly.

00:36:07.180 And he's the one who should be providing hope to Hispanics.

00:36:10.260 However, it was the eighth paragraph in the story before it said, though not Hispanic.

00:36:18.000 I love that.

00:36:18.900 Uh, well, you know, look, Beto, he's, you know, young guy.

00:36:22.500 He's generally, uh, you know, seemingly well-spoken.

00:36:25.380 Yeah.

00:36:25.480 He's had his moments, uh, that the left has really liked this whole kneeling at football

00:36:29.480 games.

00:36:29.860 He gave a response to that.

00:36:30.760 Which is really a bad response.

00:36:31.960 It was also a gift to Ted Cruz.

00:36:33.580 I mean, the fact that he's becoming famous as the guy who doesn't like the flag is probably

00:36:36.920 a really good development for Cruz.

00:36:38.460 I think so.

00:36:38.940 Um, although it's helping the fundraising efforts of Beto quite a bit.

00:36:42.720 Uh, but I, you know, I went to a birthday party with my son this weekend and one of his,

00:36:47.480 you know, friend's house and we were, uh, as I was pulling up to the house, I saw a Ted

00:36:52.000 Cruz sign and I realized it's the first one I've seen.

00:36:55.000 Yeah.

00:36:55.460 I have literally, that was the first Ted Cruz sign I have seen the entire time.

00:37:00.460 I have still seen a couple of bumper stickers.

00:37:01.980 Now we mock Beto signage all the time that we've had 25.

00:37:05.000 I saw a new one in my neighborhood this weekend.

00:37:07.260 So there's two.

00:37:08.120 It's okay.

00:37:08.540 So I've got two in my neighborhood as well.

00:37:11.120 And I've seen zero Ted Cruz signage, but I, I chalked that up too.

00:37:15.560 He's already there.

00:37:16.600 He's the known quantity.

00:37:18.000 You know, he's not the new guy.

00:37:19.900 He's not the exciting new thing.

00:37:21.920 I'm not going to put a sign in my head.

00:37:23.220 Right.

00:37:23.420 Exactly.

00:37:23.840 I'm not doing it.

00:37:24.600 Yeah.

00:37:24.800 No, but still there usually is, I think candidates from both sides.

00:37:30.060 Now the passion seems to be behind Beto O'Rourke, but you know, a passion of a much smaller amount of people.

00:37:38.300 But the reason why they are making this into a big deal is, is if they can turn this state blue, it's over.

00:37:46.780 It's over forever.

00:37:48.800 If you can keep, if Texas is blue, every national election will go to Democrats.

00:37:54.680 We have not.

00:37:55.600 It's about how important it is.

00:37:56.880 We've not elected a Democrat Senator in 30 years.

00:37:59.500 So it's just too many big cities have though.

00:38:03.040 It's our only store of big time electoral votes that we can depend on.

00:38:07.020 Yeah.

00:38:07.320 When it comes to the presidential election, Texas is it.

00:38:09.860 I mean, you Florida, you can get sometimes, sometimes you can't get it.

00:38:12.560 You know, there's other, you can't get California.

00:38:14.660 You can't get New York.

00:38:16.260 You know, you can get some, you know, mid to larger States.

00:38:19.460 But you know, I mean, even States like Georgia are trending the wrong direction.

00:38:23.580 But for a lot of electorals, it's Texas.

00:38:25.880 It's Texas.

00:38:26.280 You have to have Texas have to.

00:38:28.760 Yeah.

00:38:28.840 Yeah.

00:38:29.200 You lose that.

00:38:30.180 And what are you going to, you're going to have to pick up 10 left-wing States.

00:38:33.200 Wow.

00:38:33.340 It's, it's, it's, you can't do it.

00:38:35.400 It's almost impossible.

00:38:37.320 And if, uh, now Cruz losing this race does not mean that they lose the presidential, you

00:38:41.880 know, the presidential race goes away.

00:38:43.060 But if they can get this state to think, Hey, it's okay.

00:38:47.000 It's, you know, maybe I should vote for a Democrat this time.

00:38:49.360 Nope.

00:38:49.860 That, you know, the, the electoral, uh, future of the Republican party is bleak.

00:38:55.900 Uh, again, I, I agree with you, but you know, our big cities have all turned that way.

00:39:00.520 Well, yeah.

00:39:01.020 I mean, it's been that way for a while though.

00:39:02.940 Yeah.

00:39:03.060 Yeah.

00:39:03.380 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:39:11.240 This new outrage, because Trump didn't say enough, didn't say the right things, lowered

00:39:29.180 the flag, then raised it back up.

00:39:31.060 And now they're so angry.

00:39:32.560 Uh, it was interesting to watch Brooke Baldwin, who, you know, she just absolutely admired

00:39:37.260 and loved, of course, John McCain, you know, she did on, on CNN.

00:39:41.800 Uh, she was outraged, you know, just, I think to watch the president, you know, I saw the

00:39:48.380 flag pictures this morning from the white house, but to, to watch the president with president

00:39:52.000 Kenyatta of Kenya twice, you know, not saying anything, anything about this hero, this lion

00:40:02.480 of a man, lion of a man, oh my gosh, it's despicable.

00:40:06.720 It's despicable.

00:40:07.760 Okay.

00:40:07.960 Are you, are you a news person?

00:40:09.860 Are you a journalist?

00:40:11.520 What the, where's the objectivity here at all?

00:40:15.040 It's despicable.

00:40:16.560 Wow.

00:40:17.120 Now you can say that as an opinion person is that maybe Brooke Baldwin is that, I don't

00:40:21.180 know.

00:40:21.480 I don't know that much about her, but I mean, is that something that should be on CNN?

00:40:24.700 You're calling the president despicable.

00:40:27.020 Is that really something you should be doing on CNN?

00:40:29.200 And Tom Brokaw said something very similar, despicable, disgusting, something to that

00:40:34.640 effect.

00:40:35.520 Uh, I mean, they're all just breaking down and letting it go.

00:40:39.860 What?

00:40:41.120 No, I was just waiting for Tom Brokaw.

00:40:43.020 No, I was just, there was no Tom Brokaw coming.

00:40:45.140 I don't know how it's possible we mentioned Tom Brokaw.

00:40:47.160 Well, there were no L's in what he said.

00:40:49.160 Okay.

00:40:49.640 So.

00:40:50.120 So there's no impression.

00:40:51.160 If he would have said despicable, it would have been, well, uh, despicable.

00:40:54.940 But he's, I think he said, disgusting.

00:40:58.900 So it didn't really work.

00:41:00.160 It's just a, it's so fake, right?

00:41:02.660 And it's, it's so fake outrage.

00:41:04.660 It's just a fake outrage.

00:41:06.120 And that's the big thing.

00:41:07.040 I mean, that's what Glenn's new book is about.

00:41:09.100 And it's about, you know, the addiction to outrage.

00:41:11.540 And you see this all the time on the left.

00:41:13.140 I would, we should get a hashtag going, uh, but you know, addicted to outrage and send

00:41:18.620 us your examples of the left freaking out over nothing.

00:41:22.640 I mean, we, I have a stack of them here, uh, you know, uh, a guy who was the president

00:41:26.840 of the humanist students, uh, association, um, he has to, he has resigned.

00:41:34.060 Why?

00:41:34.780 Because he retweeted this, the following tweet, RT, if women don't have penises, if you agree

00:41:44.520 with the idea that women do not have retweet penises, uh, retweet that you should retweet

00:41:50.500 that because of that tweet, he had to resign.

00:41:53.200 What?

00:41:53.900 Um, wow.

00:41:55.340 Men are now paid.

00:41:56.700 Yeah, I know.

00:41:57.760 Again, I would like, and it's a humanist guy.

00:41:59.960 I mean, none of us would agree with him on anything except for the fact that women don't

00:42:03.540 have penises.

00:42:04.520 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

00:42:06.320 On some of Jeffy's sites, they do, but that's a totally different, totally different situation.

00:42:11.200 And again, like if you find stories like this, send them to us, tweet them, uh, at world

00:42:14.860 of Stu Acklenbeck, but use the hashtag addicted, addicted to outrage.

00:42:17.780 Cause I want to make a huge collection of these.

00:42:19.380 Where do you send them?

00:42:20.820 Um, you can go on Twitter, just hashtag addicted to outrage.

00:42:23.840 All right.

00:42:24.120 Uh, how about this?

00:42:25.140 Uh, people paying men are paying $895 at a male feminism camp to cope with their own

00:42:32.520 toxicity.

00:42:33.300 Oh gosh.

00:42:34.560 This is our world.

00:42:35.740 Really bad.

00:42:36.480 Um, uh, professors get $248,000, uh, in a grant to study gender microaggressions.

00:42:43.100 A university has banned snowball fights and water guns.

00:42:48.520 You can't have that.

00:42:49.800 These are like, how many people have been killed in snowball fights over the years?

00:42:53.420 Well, water gun fights.

00:42:54.600 I will say I saw the documentary elf and it did look dangerous in that particular film.

00:42:58.980 People got pummeled, pummeled, uh, at long distances.

00:43:01.600 Um, but again, these things are all over the place.

00:43:05.320 Progressives are constantly jumping down, uh, these roads because they want, they want to

00:43:10.280 pull you over.

00:43:10.820 They feel like if they, they can intimidate you into silence, if everything you do, you

00:43:15.060 have to feel bad for.

00:43:16.320 So then you just don't do anything.

00:43:18.280 And that's a terrible way to go.

00:43:20.640 So let's, if you have any of these stories, uh, hashtag addicted to outrage on Twitter.

00:43:25.580 Uh, you can find us on Twitter, by the way, at world of stew at Pat unleashed at Jeffy

00:43:30.500 MRA.

00:43:31.040 Thank you.

00:43:31.860 Uh, and I, I would love to go through because these things pop up all the time.

00:43:36.820 Every day you can find a batch of stories where people have to deal with something.

00:43:42.360 This is, you know, uh, going back to the issue where, you know, Santa Claus is on the town

00:43:47.380 square and people get all freaked out about it.

00:43:50.620 There's not a real outrage there.

00:43:52.720 Everyone knows there's not a real outrage there, but we fake it.

00:43:55.200 We act as if something terrible's happened to, I don't know, make us feel alive.

00:44:01.100 I don't know if we're maybe society, maybe we, our lives are so cushy now that we can

00:44:05.600 all find food and we have shelter and the temperature 72 degrees every day that we can't find anything

00:44:11.580 real to freak out about, but there's plenty in the world to freak out about.

00:44:14.380 That's real.

00:44:14.800 You know, I mean, you know, Christians are being killed all over the middle East, you

00:44:19.700 know, Muslims are being put into death camps in China.

00:44:23.160 As we speak, North Korea, we've only a million though.

00:44:26.420 Only a million.

00:44:27.040 I mean, that's a small percentage of all the people in China.

00:44:30.620 Granted.

00:44:31.000 I mean, that's not very many when you think about it.

00:44:33.380 Right.

00:44:33.840 Out of 1.4 billion.

00:44:35.680 Yeah.

00:44:36.620 I mean.

00:44:36.880 That's less than 1%.

00:44:38.080 Nobody's ever going to notice it.

00:44:39.840 No, you're not even going to notice.

00:44:40.920 Scary things are approaching in South Africa, for example, another big one.

00:44:46.300 Right.

00:44:46.580 You know, there's stuff all over the world.

00:44:49.100 Say what you will about that too, by the way, on the South African front.

00:44:52.260 Yeah, sure.

00:44:52.780 That there isn't any genocide happening.

00:44:55.120 And we acknowledge, yeah, that there doesn't seem to be evidence of that.

00:44:59.860 But there is, it's a fact that they are changing their constitution so that they can

00:45:05.140 confiscate white farmers' farms without compensation.

00:45:08.800 And the hatred is brewing.

00:45:10.060 And the hatred is brewing.

00:45:12.440 Yeah.

00:45:12.520 So it is definitely something to keep an eye on.

00:45:15.080 It may not be an out-of-control situation, but that's pretty, it's a troubling one.

00:45:21.380 Yeah.

00:45:21.820 When you're going to take people's farms without any compensation.

00:45:24.820 The really understandable confusion here, obviously, other than the fact that it's difficult

00:45:31.100 to cover these stories in these areas, is that just the general crime rate is so bad in South

00:45:39.340 Africa.

00:45:39.880 It has one of the top five or ten murder rates in the world.

00:45:43.640 And it's not all white farmers getting killed.

00:45:45.480 No.

00:45:45.780 That's true.

00:45:45.900 It's everybody getting killed.

00:45:47.120 Everywhere.

00:45:47.740 Yeah.

00:45:47.940 Blacks, whites.

00:45:48.360 It's not just the rural areas.

00:45:49.640 It's urban areas.

00:45:50.700 It's a really bad situation that they cannot seem to control.

00:45:53.780 Johannesburg is not a safe town.

00:45:55.040 No.

00:45:55.620 I mean, really, it's not.

00:45:58.100 And so I would really encourage you to go to, if you go to The Blaze and read Leon Wolf's

00:46:02.640 column about this as he goes over all of the sort of different arguments and points about

00:46:07.640 this, because there's a lot of people out there with, you know, sort of agendas pushing

00:46:10.200 one side of the argument or another.

00:46:11.760 And the media right now is pushing, ah, what are you talking about, South Africa?

00:46:14.100 I think everything's perfect there.

00:46:15.360 It's basically Beverly Hills.

00:46:17.120 And, you know, the all sort of right people are saying, you know, it's white genocide all

00:46:20.680 over the place.

00:46:21.380 Neither are true.

00:46:22.020 Right.

00:46:22.240 When you look at it, you see a lot of nuance in there.

00:46:25.580 And he explains it really well.

00:46:26.760 We did a segment as well earlier this week.

00:46:28.940 If you want to go on the podcast, you can hear that as well.

00:46:31.620 Or actually, it was last week with Glenn.

00:46:33.440 He did it.

00:46:34.400 It's just important to understand where these claims are coming from and what they

00:46:37.640 mean.

00:46:37.860 Because look, there are real, there's real violence going on there.

00:46:40.640 It's just oddly more like general violence.

00:46:43.780 And so, and white farmers have been the subject of that violence, but not exclusively and not

00:46:48.940 at a real high rate as relative to the rest of the population.

00:46:52.840 Although if it happened to your family, it's pretty high rate.

00:46:55.300 Oh yeah.

00:46:56.060 You know?

00:46:56.560 Yeah.

00:46:56.860 I mean, I think it's pretty bad.

00:46:58.360 It's not nothing.

00:46:59.300 And I think the media.

00:47:00.360 If your father got killed in front of, you know, a five-year-old girl and that apparently

00:47:05.840 happened, according to documentarians, that's a pretty high rate for that family.

00:47:11.420 Oh my God.

00:47:11.580 I mean, it's devastating.

00:47:12.580 Yeah.

00:47:13.340 And this is a problem with the media in that because Donald Trump, I guess, tweeted about

00:47:18.300 it, now they have to be against whatever he tweeted.

00:47:21.260 Right.

00:47:21.540 So what he tweeted was it was bad there and he wants to look into it.

00:47:24.560 And actually, you know, kind of as you pointed out on the News and Why It Matters the other

00:47:27.160 day, Pat, you know, he basically just said, we want to look into it.

00:47:29.180 We want to see what's going on there.

00:47:30.220 And that's a totally, that's what he should be doing.

00:47:32.020 Right.

00:47:32.680 Like, you should get more information.

00:47:34.900 But the media is now dismissing it because they want to make him look bad.

00:47:39.760 In reality, there's a really big problem going on there.

00:47:43.420 Huge crime problem.

00:47:45.360 The government is preparing to take land from people who, some people who have owned it for

00:47:51.820 a really long time.

00:47:52.880 In some cases, 400 years.

00:47:54.720 Right.

00:47:54.820 Yeah.

00:47:55.100 Some who've come upon it more recently.

00:47:56.460 And that's where I think, you know, the disagreement comes.

00:47:58.660 But the issue here, I think, is interesting in that you have outrage on both sides.

00:48:06.580 You have complete outrage on both sides.

00:48:08.260 You have people who are saying it's, you know, they're going to wipe out every white person

00:48:11.360 there.

00:48:11.980 And you have people who are saying nothing's going on.

00:48:13.980 And they're outraged at the president for tweeting about it.

00:48:16.660 And in the middle, not in the middle politically, in the middle of two people, groups of outrage

00:48:22.380 are a bunch of people saying, I would really like to know the facts.

00:48:24.920 In this particular case, it seems like Trump is one of those people.

00:48:27.240 Where he's saying, like, let's look into it.

00:48:29.160 I want to look into this.

00:48:29.980 This looks important.

00:48:30.560 Study it.

00:48:31.360 So that is.

00:48:32.660 It's reasonable.

00:48:33.420 It's a reasonable approach.

00:48:35.080 He didn't call it genocide.

00:48:36.300 He said, I have asked my secretary to look into this.

00:48:41.940 Yeah.

00:48:42.480 Okay.

00:48:42.980 We should.

00:48:43.820 Thank you.

00:48:44.300 That's ridiculous?

00:48:44.860 We should.

00:48:45.260 Because there hasn't been a lot of good reporting on it.

00:48:47.160 Right.

00:48:47.260 You know, it's only been recent that people have actually looked into this with any, any

00:48:51.540 sort of, you know, resources.

00:48:53.960 Well, I mean, that's the Brick Baldwins of the world, though, right?

00:48:56.520 He says something, it's wrong.

00:48:58.400 He doesn't say something, it's wrong.

00:49:00.160 Yep.

00:49:00.500 Okay.

00:49:00.740 I got it.

00:49:01.240 Thanks, bro.

00:49:04.740 This is the best of a Glenn Beck program.

00:49:07.620 The main story on, uh, on this latest Catholic scandal, the, the, the main telling of the

00:49:21.140 story seems to be, how could they let it happen again?

00:49:24.180 How could this have happened all over again?

00:49:26.820 After what happened in 2002, they didn't clean their house.

00:49:31.180 They didn't get this mess fixed.

00:49:33.540 They, they did nothing essentially.

00:49:36.500 That's, that seems to be the narrative.

00:49:38.860 Yeah.

00:49:38.920 And I've seen so many, you know, Catholics who are like, look, I, I stuck with the church

00:49:43.260 after the last time in 2002, even though it was really hard and I really hated what

00:49:47.200 I is, what I knew happened.

00:49:49.220 Uh, but I'm, this time I can't do it.

00:49:52.140 I'm, I'm done defending them.

00:49:53.760 You know, this is, this is, this is unacceptable.

00:49:56.640 And I think that's an understandable instinct, honestly, uh, by the way, based on the way it's

00:50:00.620 been presented.

00:50:01.220 Yeah.

00:50:01.640 Yeah.

00:50:02.040 So the, if you don't know, the story was from Pennsylvania where they showed, uh, in excruciation

00:50:06.500 detail, the 300 priests abused a thousand children over 70 years.

00:50:12.240 Oh my gosh.

00:50:12.820 Awful.

00:50:13.520 Um, so has the coverage actually been accurate about the story?

00:50:16.400 Cause it's uncomfortable to kind of talk about it because you don't want to seem like you're

00:50:19.660 like excusing any abuse and there's no excuse for it.

00:50:22.860 It's all, all horrible.

00:50:25.380 In some ways, the coverage has actually been too generous.

00:50:28.300 For example, the number of thousand children is a hundred percent.

00:50:31.820 We're a hundred percent sure that's too low.

00:50:34.140 Um, first of all, the report only dealt with 54 of the 67 counties.

00:50:39.040 So there's 13 counties in Pennsylvania.

00:50:41.140 They didn't even look at.

00:50:42.640 So we know there's more kids.

00:50:44.180 They also said they believe the real number of children who, uh, whose records were lost

00:50:47.980 or who were afraid to come forward is in the thousands.

00:50:50.740 So they think the numbers are much worse, but the question is what, what do we learn from

00:50:58.120 this scandal?

00:50:59.300 Yeah.

00:50:59.860 And how did the Catholic church not learn from the scandal that it hit in 2002?

00:51:03.820 How did they not fix this?

00:51:04.980 So what did we know before?

00:51:05.840 We knew that it was really bad.

00:51:07.460 We knew that a lot, way too many priests were doing terrible, terrible things.

00:51:11.400 We knew that the church handled it horribly for many, many years.

00:51:15.560 And then in 2002, uh, the Boston globe and others report on the abuse cycle and all, you

00:51:23.100 know, the details, they break the story.

00:51:24.880 This turns into the huge scandal.

00:51:26.720 And, uh, we all know about that.

00:51:28.560 They make a movie about it, you know, spotlight.

00:51:30.440 It wins best picture because that's what happens when you make movies about how evil the

00:51:35.040 church is and how good journalists are.

00:51:36.720 You win best picture.

00:51:38.500 That's what happens.

00:51:39.600 I love that.

00:51:40.200 The fact that that movie came out in 2015, 2015, two years.

00:51:46.060 Before Chappaquiddick comes out.

00:51:50.060 Like Ted Kennedy died of old age.

00:51:53.980 It took him so long to make a movie about that.

00:51:56.660 Well, that's why.

00:51:57.440 I think they waited till Kennedy was gone.

00:51:59.560 I think you're right.

00:52:00.400 I mean, Kate Mara, who played Mary Jo Kopechny, wasn't born until 14 years after the incident.

00:52:07.740 14 years later, she was born and she grew up to be the exact right age to play Mary Jo Kopechny.

00:52:14.020 Wow.

00:52:14.240 Where, you know, Spotlight happens in 2002.

00:52:17.060 In 2015, they're making an, you know, a big movie about it.

00:52:20.560 And that was, I feel like they waited a long time.

00:52:23.040 It was actually restraint there before they actually made it.

00:52:26.000 Um, so they, uh, the movie comes out.

00:52:28.980 Everyone knows about that.

00:52:30.020 And, you know, it's not possible to overstate how bad the scandal was.

00:52:35.700 It really was horrific.

00:52:37.520 Oh my gosh.

00:52:38.240 And what the church did to cover it up and how they, it was horrific in every way.

00:52:42.600 Uh, the church though, wants us to believe now that, you know, since 2002, they've turned

00:52:47.320 it around.

00:52:47.640 They've, they've changed the way they do things.

00:52:49.900 They've addressed these issues as much as they can.

00:52:52.960 And, you know, things have changed.

00:52:55.960 So does this report blow that narrative up?

00:53:00.860 Because that's certainly the impression that I got when I, when I heard the coverage.

00:53:05.480 And that was the narrative we all thought because they, everyone was talking about that's the,

00:53:09.600 that has been the culture in the Catholic church.

00:53:11.800 It's still the culture in the Catholic church.

00:53:14.680 Nothing's been done.

00:53:15.540 Nothing's been done.

00:53:16.840 I mean, to, to put a fine point on this, listen to Chuck Todd reporting about this scandal.

00:53:22.240 What's happening in the Catholic church, uh, this week out of Pennsylvania is something

00:53:27.640 that is going to have reverberations here.

00:53:29.100 Pennsylvania grand jury report released this week, identified more than a thousand child

00:53:33.600 victims of more than 300 abusive Catholic priests across the state of, that's just one state

00:53:38.980 of Pennsylvania.

00:53:40.420 This is in 2018.

00:53:41.960 Nevermind what we thought they made movies about in 2002 and things like that.

00:53:46.920 Okay.

00:53:47.200 So quite clearly is saying that this is a new allegation.

00:53:50.360 It's not the 2002 thing.

00:53:52.220 This is 2018 folks.

00:53:54.400 This is different.

00:53:55.680 So I went through the, you know, 900 page report and it's incredibly extensive.

00:54:03.500 Okay.

00:54:04.380 The, one of the first things you notice when you're reading the report is it's going to

00:54:07.380 be really hard to punish the priests involved in it because a lot of them are dead.

00:54:15.100 Almost.

00:54:15.780 I mean, a high percentage of them are dead.

00:54:19.160 And so the priests that were doing it this year in 2018, like Chuck Todd noted, they all

00:54:23.460 died already?

00:54:24.180 How did they all die?

00:54:24.800 How did they die?

00:54:25.120 Did the Catholic church adopt the death penalty?

00:54:27.900 Did they kill them?

00:54:28.520 They did.

00:54:29.240 No, they did not.

00:54:30.600 The reason why a lot of the priests in the report are dead is because the report is filled

00:54:35.160 with a lot of really old stuff.

00:54:38.740 It's very detailed.

00:54:39.980 So this isn't new stuff.

00:54:41.080 This is not new stuff.

00:54:42.440 As Chuck Todd just told you.

00:54:44.260 Wow.

00:54:44.700 None of this, none of what we're hearing is new.

00:54:46.720 Highly detailed.

00:54:47.440 I mean, look, it's very highly detailed.

00:54:49.060 That's new.

00:54:49.620 The details of what they did, how they abused these kids, those things are new and necessary.

00:54:54.760 I'm glad that that exists, and I'm glad the grand jury did that report.

00:54:59.180 But these are not new instances of abuse?

00:55:01.140 They did not happen after the initial scandal.

00:55:05.320 Wow.

00:55:05.720 Wow.

00:55:06.120 That's unbelievable.

00:55:07.520 If you go through all of the dates and try to figure out what dates they were, you're

00:55:16.020 looking at, you know, 1970s, 1980s, 85, 81, 78, 66, you know, there are, there are two

00:55:25.720 allegations in there from 1948 and 1945 and 45, you know, Hitler's still chancellor and

00:55:34.020 this abuse is going on.

00:55:35.180 Wow.

00:55:35.540 There is, you know, one priest from 1950 abused someone and died in 1968.

00:55:42.880 Now, that does not mean the abuse is not important.

00:55:45.140 It doesn't mean that we shouldn't cover it.

00:55:46.720 We should.

00:55:48.180 But let's, this is completely misleading.

00:55:51.140 A lot of Catholics are looking at this and saying, wait a minute.

00:55:53.400 These are all new circumstances.

00:55:53.980 The church said they were going to change this.

00:55:55.660 Now, I mean, I went through, you know, as much pedophile accusations as I could possibly

00:56:00.080 stomach to try to find something that happened recently.

00:56:04.920 There was one accusation from 2006 that happened.

00:56:09.480 However, the priest was not actually actively a priest, but was receiving retirement benefits.

00:56:16.440 So that, that's on there.

00:56:18.280 There is one other case where a, a priest was caught with child pornography in 2007, or

00:56:26.540 2004, excuse me.

00:56:28.140 He was dismissed from the church a couple of years later.

00:56:31.560 He was also, uh, you know, uh, uh, accused and, uh, likely embezzled money from the church.

00:56:38.160 And I don't think there's anyone who's saying that the Catholic church doesn't care about

00:56:40.900 embezzling money.

00:56:42.000 Certainly the detractors would not fight that.

00:56:44.600 And the report actually states that, uh, the, all, almost all of it is before the early

00:56:51.700 2000s.

00:56:53.100 Uh, we know the bulk of the discussion in the report concerns events that occurred before

00:56:56.920 the early 2000s.

00:56:58.260 That is simply because the bulk of the material we received from the diocese concerned those

00:57:02.860 events.

00:57:03.720 And while they can't rule out anything from the more recent past, they acknowledge things

00:57:07.620 have improved noticeably.

00:57:08.940 They write, we recognize that much has changed over the last 15 years.

00:57:13.100 We agreed to hear from each of the six dioceses we investigated so that they could inform

00:57:16.720 us about recent developments in their jurisdictions.

00:57:18.960 Their testimony impressed us as forthright and heartfelt.

00:57:22.680 It appears that the church is now advising law enforcement of abuse reports more promptly.

00:57:27.340 Internal review processes have been established.

00:57:30.800 Victims are no longer quite as invisible.

00:57:34.920 Is that not also really important to talk about?

00:57:38.100 It is.

00:57:38.900 You know, sure.

00:57:39.920 It's important to detail how bad these things were.

00:57:42.620 And these victims deserve to be able to tell their stories.

00:57:45.800 There's no doubt about that.

00:57:47.620 But the impression that someone like Chuck Todd gives you that this is still spinning out of

00:57:52.720 control, that priests are currently still abusing a lot of people.

00:57:56.320 There is no evidence of this.

00:57:57.980 The letter that came out the other day about Pope Francis, so, you know, I'm not a fan of.

00:58:01.840 I mean, I wish he would spend more time on this problem instead of telling me what I should

00:58:04.380 be driving.

00:58:05.300 Yeah.

00:58:05.440 But even that report, there are issues about whether people were punished, and they're still

00:58:13.640 sorting those things out in more recent history.

00:58:16.500 But that allegation goes back 40, 50 years.

00:58:19.660 And the report does say that things have changed.

00:58:22.240 And does say that things have changed.

00:58:23.620 I mean, that's amazing.

00:58:24.600 I mean, because that's the main beef with the Catholic Church is that nothing's changed

00:58:30.040 after the initial, you know, scandal in 2002 from the Boston Globe.

00:58:35.180 And it seems like everybody's putting it on this pontiff that, hey, how come you're not

00:58:39.860 addressing this?

00:58:41.080 Why?

00:58:41.440 How has this gotten swept under the rug again?

00:58:43.720 Well, it kind of didn't.

00:58:44.980 They have been.

00:58:45.640 Yeah.

00:58:45.960 I mean, they did address it.

00:58:47.920 It didn't get swept under the rug.

00:58:49.820 They have improved.

00:58:51.100 And most of these charges aren't recent.

00:58:53.640 Yeah.

00:58:53.900 We don't know.

00:58:54.440 The vast majority, apparently.

00:58:56.100 Yeah.

00:58:56.220 The overwhelming majority.

00:58:57.560 You know, I went through probably 200 allegations.

00:59:01.160 And there's two or three that happened after, you know, the 2002 scandal.

00:59:06.660 I wonder, is that the impression Catholics have of this latest scandal?

00:59:10.120 I don't think so.

00:59:10.300 I'd like to hear from Catholics.

00:59:10.940 It certainly isn't the impression.

00:59:12.260 I mean, we haven't heard anything like that from the Vatican.

00:59:14.720 I've been hearing them lament another massive scandal.

00:59:18.760 And they're embarrassed by it.

00:59:20.200 And they're ashamed of it.

00:59:21.420 And they're disgusted.

00:59:23.360 And they should be disgusted.

00:59:24.540 And they should be.

00:59:25.360 But if this is all from, you know, the distant past and they've changed, well, you did what we asked you to do at least, right?

00:59:34.060 At least, you know, look, we can't rule out.

00:59:36.200 I mean, we know that there's a recent allegation against the Pope, which, you know, you've probably heard a little bit about where someone who was accused again several decades ago was maybe not punished by this Pope the same way that the last Pope punished him.

00:59:50.060 And we don't know all the details of that still.

00:59:51.860 They're still, you know, working that out.

00:59:54.200 But it does seem that there's at least, you know, look, there's not, you can't say, just like any population, you can't say that there's not still issues going on.

01:00:01.500 It does not seem to be systemic like it seemed to be before.

01:00:05.000 And one of the ways they talked about this, and I thought was interesting for our entire society, was the Catholic Church is out of the investigative business.

01:00:13.940 What they tried to do for many, many years is when one of these issues would pop up, they'd try to investigate it internally.

01:00:21.020 They'd talk to psychiatrists who would tell them, well, you could probably rehab this person.

01:00:25.280 They'd shift them around to different areas.

01:00:27.800 They'd do all sorts of different things, trying to act as if they were their own police department.

01:00:33.580 And what they're doing now, when they get these accusations, is turning them over to an actual police department.

01:00:39.260 And it's so funny to hear the left come out and say, well, the Catholic Church, obviously they're terrible, they're evil, look at what they're doing.

01:00:47.340 They were trying to litigate these issues internally.

01:00:51.400 It's a rape.

01:00:52.160 It's a child molestation.

01:00:53.240 You can't do that internally.

01:00:54.340 By the way, let's praise universities for litigating rape accusations internally.

01:00:59.060 Let's all talk about how the rape culture is proved by some kangaroo court at Michigan State.

01:01:05.980 Let's all act as if that's the appropriate way to do it.

01:01:08.960 It's not.

01:01:09.940 Let's all act about how we should now go in the media and talk about Me Too allegations from many years ago where no one has any evidence or any chance to defend themselves.

01:01:18.260 These things need to be litigated through the legal system, not through your opinion, not through the media, not through any of this, not through the church, not through the college.

01:01:27.700 You have to bring them to police.

01:01:30.720 Police need to investigate them.

01:01:32.720 Legal outcomes need to be decided based on evidence and truth.

01:01:37.640 You can't just say, try to handle it, treat your friends differently, favor one side over another.

01:01:46.000 That doesn't work.

01:01:47.100 We have a legal system for a reason.

01:01:48.660 And if it's not serious enough to deal with rape accusations, what the hell is it for?

01:01:55.520 You have to be able to go in there and bring these things.

01:01:58.840 And I hope that with a Me Too situation playing itself out, if anything comes out of this, other than the fact that some people who were absolutely abused are able to tell their stories and everything.

01:02:10.580 We should be encouraging people in these situations to go to authorities at the time.

01:02:18.120 Yes.

01:02:18.220 You have to.

01:02:19.100 There's no way to investigate these things without that.

01:02:21.940 You can't get the truth by trying to litigate them 50 years after the events occur.

01:02:27.740 It just doesn't work.

01:02:29.080 You wind up just having people are, you know, people are going to their memories.

01:02:32.540 They're pulling things out.

01:02:33.580 They think they remember.

01:02:34.860 Sometimes they're true.

01:02:35.760 Sometimes they're not.

01:02:36.960 Sometimes people have agendas.

01:02:37.920 Sometimes they don't, and it's impossible to figure out.

01:02:40.760 You can't just believe everybody, as we've seen over and over and over again.

01:02:44.780 Yeah, you don't have the right to be believed immediately, as we've pointed out with the Me Too movement.

01:02:49.700 You have a right to be taken seriously, and we'll look into it, and let's get due process going, and let's at least let the accused have their day in court to present their case.

01:03:07.920 Because isn't this still America?

01:03:10.680 And it's amazing, because this is not the way this current Catholic scandal is being presented in the media.

01:03:16.640 It sure isn't.

01:03:17.540 It's crazy.

01:03:17.860 This is being presented as if it's all new stuff, as if it's all happening all over again.

01:03:24.460 It's really important to know that these are all, almost all, old allegations.

01:03:31.440 Pretty amazing.

01:03:32.220 Yeah.

01:03:32.300 It sure is.

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