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Glenn and Stu are joined by CNN's Jeffrey Toobin to discuss the latest in the war on cops, civil asset forfeiture, and Louis CK's new comedy show in New York. They also discuss Trump Derangement Syndrome.
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Welcome to the podcast. It's Stu, along with Jeffy, who's joining me here.
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He was okay. I mean, you know, if you like that sort of thing, I guess he was.
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We start the show with Jeffrey Toobin, who, I mean, has made ridiculous points.
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And a point, you know, you guys who watch a lot of cable news,
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you wind up just hearing the same points over and over again.
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I will say this for Jeffrey Toobin, I have never heard the point he made last night.
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I've never heard anyone accuse this organization of this.
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It's a claim about racism that is brand new to me.
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So we've got a new thing in our, that's kind of interesting in this world.
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We have the new NPR study about school shootings, which is incredible.
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NPR, you will be surprised that they even decided to do this.
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Boy, that's for sure, because you'd expect NPR to look at the original number and go,
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You people are all bad instead of going, hey, that number seems high.
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Louis C.K. is back from his Me Too, I guess, trip to Siberia.
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So he's made his first comedy appearance in New York, and we'll talk about that and what's the appropriate punishments for these actions.
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We'll get into that today, as well as a brand new story about civil asset forfeiture.
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Another person who did nothing wrong, has no crime against him, and lost a bunch of their money in an inexplicable development across the United States.
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I don't know why this is happening, why more people aren't standing up against it, but it is happening.
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I mean, all these municipalities are using this, and there's a couple other ways now that people are sending us that these cities are using just to, you know, obviously it's for our safety and to enhance their payroll.
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And if you heard the rumor of Alex Jones viewing trans porn on the air by mistake, he's got an explanation from that.
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You're listening to The Best of the Glenn Beck Program.
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We were just talking about Trump derangement syndrome, and there's a couple of terms that circulate through the media all the time.
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And they bug me, and I think they bother you to a certain extent, Stu,
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because it makes it, I don't know, it just makes it seem like everybody who says anything about the president has Trump derangement.
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I mean, we don't have it, and we complain about some of the things he does.
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Yeah, I mean, the test usually is whether you can find things that you like, right?
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And we've gone through many, many things that we do like, that the president has done.
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Even his critics, though, I don't think are always affected with Trump derangement systems.
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If you're a liberal, right, and you see things like Neil Gorsuch and Kavanaugh,
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you may very well not like those on ideological grounds.
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That doesn't mean you have Trump derangement syndrome.
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That means you just don't like his picks, right?
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There seems to be a different situation going on for some people, though.
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Although, yeah, if there's any location that's infected with supposed Trump derangement syndrome,
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it's just about everybody at CNN, including Jeffrey Toobin.
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I mean, he's a guy that once in a while makes sense, but not really when it comes to Trump.
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Yeah, he just, there's a sign of the, if you're going to make Trump derangement syndrome into something,
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there's a sign of it of, like, pulling every issue, no matter how separate from race and hatred,
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bring all of them to that, no matter what it is, whether it's a Supreme Court pick,
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whether it's a tax decrease, whether it's talking about, you know, North Korea,
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whatever you can, bring it back to the idea that the reason he's doing X, Y, and Z is because he hates black people.
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Like, it's just going to that same boring analysis, saying every single thing revolves around that one issue.
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And it shows, of course, it reveals your obsession with that issue.
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It reveals your obsession, not ours, but your obsession with skin color,
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with your obsession with, you know, reproductive organs, your obsession with that.
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That's not something that we want to care about, but you're constantly bringing it up.
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And this is a perfect example from yesterday with Jeffrey Toobin,
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when he was talking about the president saying how if Republicans lose in the midterms
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and the Democrats take control of the House, there's going to be violence in the streets.
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And listen to the way Jeffrey Toobin spins that.
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The theme here is, I'm Donald Trump, and I'll protect you from the scary black people.
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Antifa is widely perceived as an African-American organization.
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And this is just part of the same story of LeBron James and Don Lemon and Maxine Waters
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and the NFL players and the UCLA basketball players.
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This is about Donald Trump's appeal to racism, and it just happens all the time,
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and we never say it or we don't say it enough for what it is.
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that says more about him than it does Donald Trump.
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Because nobody considers Antifa just black people.
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I consider them hell-bent on chaos and communism.
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But even more than that, we've done a lot of coverage on this group.
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He's done multiple big monologues about them, their history, where they came from.
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First of all, they did not come certainly from African-American roots in any way.
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They came from, you know, it started back in World War II.
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But beyond that, all the videos we've seen of Antifa,
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I'm not saying there's no black people in the organization.
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But I can't think of one picture in my brain of ever seeing a black person in Antifa.
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But I've never, I can't remember ever seeing one.
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They're almost always like the person who you think you're going to bump into Starbucks the next day.
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Some, like, you know, tortured, angsty, you know, 22-year-old who, you know,
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who went to too many communist college courses and now thinks they're going to change the world by throwing things at people.
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I don't know that I've ever heard anyone make the point before.
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This is, like, the first time I've ever heard the point that black people are associated with Antifa in some way.
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They're just, I always think of it as like that, like, Seattle, Starbucks-y, you know, angst.
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And you can make an argument when it started, it actually did good things.
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But it's been evolved to, at this point, it's ridiculousness.
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I mean, it's just anything that they don't like.
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And it's agonizing to continually hear the nonsense that everything's about race.
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And, you know, that just diminishes when things are about race.
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When you make everything about race, you've just watered down the actual racism that does exist.
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And we see from time to time, certainly not as much as CNN sees it, but I don't think
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I've ever heard Donald Trump even say anything about Antifa being groups of black people.
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I haven't heard anybody saying it, not just us.
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And this is what surprises me all the time, like, when you have these issues that pop up
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with race, it's the left has immersed themselves so completely in this issue.
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And to them, it is like the ultimate equation that solves all math problems.
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You know, it's just, I remember when Barack Obama was going and they talked about an apartment
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There's a lot of white people that live in apartments.
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Way more white people live in apartments nationwide than black people do.
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I mean, it's just a, an absurd thing because Chicago was a dog whistle for black people.
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And like, no, there's a lot of violence that goes on there.
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The word the, if you use the too much, it's code for black people.
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That's what you mean when you say the word the.
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Uh, I I'm just so tired of beating around the bush with these people on what they are
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When you see race everywhere, when that's all you think of, maybe you should turn that,
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you know, look in the mirror, become a little bit introspective.
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Cause I think there's a, an instinct, especially with that, with the older, I mean, we used
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to say this about Chris Matthews, Chris Matthews went through a generation in which race was
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Uh, and it was something that was constantly talked about.
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And I, you know, really until Obama, uh, kind of got in there and, and, you know, he was,
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he really came from that perspective of viewing everything through the prism of race.
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To the point where he said this, you know, I forgot he was black tonight for an hour.
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Like you think of when you think of everything in the term of black and white, well, shockingly,
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And you know, it's, it's the same thing that happens with conspiracy theorists, right?
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Conspiracy theorists, you get in, when you get down the road to nine 11 and you get down
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the road to Sandy hook and you go down all these things.
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Well, of course, every shooting seems like a false flag to you.
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Every time you see something, you think it's a conspiracy theory with the government.
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And it's the same thing with the left and race.
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There are actual things just like with conspiracy theories.
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They have done things at times that are really terrible, but it's the same thing with this,
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There are actual racial issues that come up, but when you see everything that way, you can't
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stop yourself from pulling things that are, you know, 15 lanes over from race back into
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But it also like that's that lessens the real racism.
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And that's what the same with, uh, you know, the, the full Trump derangement syndrome, you
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know, there are times when you want to be against Donald Trump, but you listen to the deranged
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syndrome people and you're like, okay, well no, I'm not that bad.
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I mean, in a way that's letting someone else control the way you feel, which I don't like
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either, you know, just because the media says stupid things shouldn't affect my opinion.
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I should be able to come up with my opinion on my own.
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They did this thing a while ago where it was like, you know, 13 of the last 15 people
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And this proves, and, and, and, and Toobin actually kind of references it there.
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Except that seven or eight of them were the same person.
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I think it was, it was something like 10 of 11 or something like that.
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And so, and you also, to believe this theory, you have to also believe that he was not racist
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at all until he was elected because he did, before that he was calling white people dumb
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And then for the whole first year of his presidency, he only called one person dumb, Mika Brzezinski,
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So you have to believe he developed the racism, not in his first 71 years, but in the last year.
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And in that last year, he developed the racism all solely based on Maxine Waters and Don Lemon.
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Isn't an easier explanation of that is he doesn't like Maxine Waters and Don Lemon.
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Maxine Waters and Don Lemon have been recently criticizing him.
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And what Donald Trump does in those moments is called them dumb.
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It's just like he called Jeb Bush dumb and Marco Rubio dumb and Tim Cruz dumb.
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He is an opponent and he's, you know, he's liberal at times and I don't, but Maxine Waters,
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She makes incredibly stupid points all the time.
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She's made a good case for being dumb the last few years, if not her entire life.
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I mean, it could be, there could be other examples.
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Maybe she's, you know, losing her sharpness as she gets later in life.
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But I mean, she is tripped up and made really insane comments.
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Hank Johnson, you know, Hank Johnson comes out and says, Guam's going to tip over.
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Can we not say that he's dumb because he's black?
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White or black, whoever said it, that's a dumb comment.
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You know, Guam's not going to tip over because you put too many military forces on one side of it.
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So, I mean, can we not observe that sometimes people have those moments?
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Who immediately was like, uh, we don't anticipate that happening.
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Taking these things from issues that are not related to race and trying to move them into that, in that analysis.
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It's the same thing, you know, like the alt-right.
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Largely speaking, the alt-right is a, is a, is a small group compared to, uh, you know, conservatives and Republicans and everything else.
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But when you try to, you know, call every single Republican alt-right, you, you fail.
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You, you, you fail because you then weaken the case against people like Richard Spencer, who is really a problem.
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Like that theory, that his, his theories, I think are real negative and certainly have nothing to do with conservatism.
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But when you bring like Mitt Romney and you call him alt-right, it doesn't, there's no, there's, there's, you lose all value in your criticism.
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NPR has a really surprising study that they did.
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I, I'm blown away that NPR, first of all, paid attention to it in the first place.
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Secondly, actually reported their findings, uh, because this doesn't seem to fit their narrative.
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And it's one of those stats that when you hear it, it blatantly fails to you as possible.
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You know, you see, you'll see liberals constantly share these numbers.
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And you're just like, is there any moment where you just sit back and say, there's no way that's possible.
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Is there any part of you that gets to that point in your analysis?
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Well, there were supposedly in 2015, 240 school shootings.
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Now, sometimes they get to those numbers in various ways.
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For example, um, a guy, uh, who has no association with a school at midnight feels despondent, leaves his home,
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pulls into the back corner of the school parking lot and shoots himself.
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No, but it was an incident with a gun on school grounds.
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To any, uh, gun hating organization, that's a school shooting.
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You'll have times where police officers will come and the police officer will mistakenly shoot his gun that hits no one.
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Um, you know, someone, there've been times where pellet guns, some kid will bring in a pellet gun and shoot one of his friends.
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These are, these are the type of things they go in there to, to juice the numbers.
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We know now we don't have to juice the numbers because there was 240 shootings in 2015.
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And this is a U.S. Department of Education report.
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So, you know, it's some credibility, I guess, behind it.
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It's not like, you know, it's not Mother Jones or, you know, every town for gun safety.
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This was a government report, which people, generally speaking, will take seriously.
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Nearly 240 schools reported at least one incident involving a school-related shooting.
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NPR, God only knows the reason, decided to actually check into this.
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Because usually when the gun, when there's a stat about guns that make guns look bad, nobody looks into them.
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But, uh, in this case, what they found was amazing.
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They write, in 161 cases, schools or districts attested that no incident took place or couldn't confirm one.
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So what they're saying is not the stuff I'm talking about before, like it's a pellet gun or it's a guy committing suicide near school grounds.
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No, they're saying 161 of the 240 were just nothing.
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It's even more amazing than that because of the remaining 59 cases, uh, they couldn't be, some of those couldn't be confirmed or disconfirmed.
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Oh, they actually found only 11 confirmed by either the schools or through news reports.
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And, you know, again, if you have a school shooting, it's probably going to be easy to confirm.
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You know, you call Parkland School District right now.
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They're going to be able to confirm a school shooting occurred there.
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Uh, civil rights data collection for 2018 required every public school, more than 96,000, answer questions on a wide range of issues.
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What it appears is they put the wrong number, like they, someone put, I think it was Cleveland, put 37 in for school shootings and they meant to answer the question before it.
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Now, if Cleveland had 37 school shootings, I feel like we might've heard of that.
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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
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You know, there's some kind of Ruth Bader Ginsburg hysteria going on right now.
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And I, you know, not only is there a documentary, there's a major, uh,
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movie release coming out, I think on Christmas day.
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They're playing the documentary, which is incredible.
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You know, again, there was a Ruth Bader Ginsburg documentary made and just like praising her.
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There's like a little cult following around her.
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Like, and it's kind of one of those things that here's this little tiny old lady who's
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super tough and doesn't give up on her, you know?
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And of course she's super liberal, which helps.
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Um, but I honestly think it's, this part of it is like sort of a Betty white syndrome
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where like, I, you know, I love Betty white, but like there was that thing she had a few
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Well, but after you reach a certain age and you know, I'm well aware of this is that
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after you reach a certain age, people are like, Oh, he's cute.
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Well, you've reached the age where people think you're cute, but you have passed Ruth
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But it also is, I think, I think you're right with the Betty white syndrome.
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I think there's something to that too, because I will tell you this.
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If she were to retire tomorrow, they would hate her more than anybody has ever been
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They loved him for years because he was the, the quote unquote conservative that kept siding
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Uh, he was the greatest guy in the world until he was gone.
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The Ginsburg thing is so amazing because, uh, there's, there seems to be, I mean, other
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than the speculation, I, I just can't figure out what the, what the reason for it all of
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I think she's an interesting character in which she's, if you think about it, if you're a
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Like the same way I love Clarence Thomas, right?
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Clarence Thomas, because he's generally, he's the most conservative, uh, person on the
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And at least, you know, depending on how you measure it.
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And those things are always tough to measure, but he's certainly one of the top one or two.
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Uh, and he's a, you know, he, I think he does a great job on the Supreme court and, and
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he, so he's really, so that part of it, if you're a liberal, you love Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
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Like, you know, basically Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez add about a hundred points to the IQ and put
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I mean, you know, she's, and you know, that's part of it.
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I think another part of it is, you know, just her physical sort of stature, right?
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Like she's this tiny, like old lady and just a power who's just still a powerhouse, you
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know, like, and I think that's one of the things they like about, you know, Betty, that's
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how Betty White had that resurgence in some ways.
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In the past, we heard how much, what a relationship she had with Scalia and how he loved her and
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So she's had that kind of bit of, a little bit of love with that.
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But I mean, think about this from a news organization standpoint.
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This is essentially a pro Ruth Bader Ginsburg propaganda piece.
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She, you know, it's, it's basically trying to turn her into a cult.
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Even the same thing with, you know, with Scalia, right?
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Should you be, should you make a documentary or air a documentary that's a one-sided propaganda
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piece about Antonin Scalia if you're a news organization?
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I mean, if you're going to do the thing about Ruth Bader Ginsburg, you probably also have
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to do it for Antonin Scalia if you want to even attempt to look fair.
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Well, the good thing is, is that she believes in the United States and the Constitution.
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The word woman does not appear even once in the U.S. Constitution.
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That's supposedly based on a true incident, I guess, from her past, which was in her 30s
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and, or 20s, I don't know, but the Supreme Court justice leans in and says, the word woman
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doesn't appear even once in the U.S. Constitution.
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But other than that, don't worry about the facts.
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But you've got to go all the way to the first amendment before you find the word freedom.
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And she is the one who famously, as Jeffy was kind of just pointing out there, said that
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Yeah, South Africa's is the one which you should focus on.
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You know, it's like, I love this idea that the oldest person on the Supreme Court can tell
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Should we start throwing out Supreme Court justices at 65, too?
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One of the reasons that she really liked the Constitution from South Africa.
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Well, they came up with a really incredible concept of an independent judiciary.
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What if we had, wait, what if we had an independent judiciary, an independent legislative branch,
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and you couple that with an independent executive branch?
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I mean, I can't even think what kind of government you'd have then.
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It's like, what do you mean they came up with an independent?
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Certainly, by her rulings, I don't think she's read it.
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And by this little trailer, I don't think she's read it.
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You're telling us that the word of freedom is not in it?
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And I love the way she pauses there because it's so powerful.
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The first time I heard it, I thought she was saying,
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no, the word woman isn't in there, but the word freedom is.
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The word woman does not appear even once in the U.S. Constitution.
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Almost like, you know, Christian Bale's Batman.
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The word woman does not appear even once in the U.S. Constitution.
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I think the point is that the U.S. Constitution is flawed.
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Neither do we have, I guess, an independent judiciary that's set apart.
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Was she arguing for a new amendment to the Constitution at this point?
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The only thing you can maybe think of, and off the top of my head, I can't, I don't know.
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But she's just saying that she's not concluding the amendments?
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Like, we had to amend the Constitution to get freedom in it?
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If you would have said, it doesn't appear until the amendments, that's one thing.
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Because the Bill of Rights is part of the Constitution.
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But what I'm saying is if she's arguing for, which I would maybe suspect, the Equal Rights Amendment,
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maybe she's saying we have to add in the word woman here with another amendment?
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I'm trying, again, I'm giving her too much of a break here.
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I feel like that's valuable to at least try to understand it.
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But I can't wait till Christmas Day when this power will move.
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Open it up, take a drink, a sip of wine, go to the movies, and just celebrate Roosteria.
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And Ruth Bader Ginsburg is about the size of my Elf on a Shelf, too.
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You know, the same way people think about small dogs.
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We're like, you know, it's really difficult for a small dog to be ugly.
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But people think they're cute because they're small.
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But, of course, Jeffy, you know, look at Jeffy.
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But there's that thing where I think when you're small and powerful, it gives you that, like, there's some cool part of that that people like.
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Because there's no real, like, you could easily love Breyer, who's also old and also super liberal.
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Like, there's, you know, you could have, I mean, you could go and praise Sotomayor, who, in some measures, is to the left of Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
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But they're picking Ruth Bader Ginsburg, I think, because of just physical qualities, which, again, they say you should never do.
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And, like, you want to give her a little hug and maybe pet her.
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But I want to, personally, I want the new Ruth on a Shelf now.
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That's a solid, we could easily save some of those.
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You feel like your house might be haunted with it, though.
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I don't think I want to come out in the middle of the night and the thing's just scampering across the ground somehow.
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This is the best of the Glenn Beck program, and we really want to thank you for listening.
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The Me Too movement continues to swim along quite nicely.
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And, you know, make sure that people don't work.
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And, I mean, and that's fine if people have actually committed egregious crimes.
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You mean like one of the founders, Asia Argento, who is apparently now getting thrown out of her jobs?
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You know, I don't know how to handle this stuff because when you have a legal system, right, what you do is in advance of the trial, you have laws on the books, and then people know what those laws are.
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And then when you go in and you have a trial and you're found guilty, there on the books is a range of punishment, which would be applied to the person who committed the crime.
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So you're saying after you have, say, I don't know, presented evidence and a jury has perhaps said that there's enough evidence to say, yes, you're guilty.
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And then after that, there's some consequences.
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So just the accusation is enough to say you're a bad person, you need to get out of your job.
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You lose all of your jobs, you lose your company, you lose everything, whether you did it or not.
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And again, it is certainly just for people like, let's say, Harvey Weinstein, who did a lot of terrible things.
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However, on that same front, you should actually be convicted of a crime before the punishment gets associated with you.
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And we now believe the person should get punished immediately.
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We all suspect that he really did all these things.
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And it seems overwhelmingly, there's an overwhelming amount of evidence, including his own words on tape that indicate that.
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But when it comes to someone like Louis C.K., is a good example of this.
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And if you remember the story, basically, he did things to himself in front of women.
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I mean, as you'd expect from Louis C.K., very awkward.
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Well, one of the stories even was that one girl remembered that he asked and I said, no.
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Well, if you didn't want him to do that, then you should have said no.
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And from my understanding is that there's no allegation that he ever did that against their will.
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But he did ask for permission and seemingly permission was granted.
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Some were saying that they didn't say anything.
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They didn't say anything and they just kind of laughed at him.
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Because he said, I'm going to take my clothes off now, okay?
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And they kind of went, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, uncomfortably and then stayed.
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Because he takes his clothes off and they're so upset they don't leave.
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Because I wasn't aware of this up until this point.
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Comedians have this extraordinary power over people's will.
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But their argument is he does have power in the world of being a comedian.
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Like, you know, like Jerry Seinfeld certainly has some impact.
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Like, you know, would you say, you know, Jerry Seinfeld could have an influence on a young comedian's career?
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I mean, the answer to that, of course, the answer is yes.
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Were these all young comedians that he did this in front of?
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You know, there was one who said that, I mean, even talk about a weak allegation.
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The allegation was that Louis C.K. got on the phone with a woman.
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But suspected that he was masturbating while on the phone with her.
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And he was so powerful that she could not hang up?
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So, the idea is, okay, well, Louis C.K. could then go to some manager and say.
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Anybody who's been on the phone with that guy could say, yeah, I believed he was pleasuring
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And I think, I think for all of my stress, I need like three and a half million dollars
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So, their argument is, okay, well, he could behind the scenes say, you know what?
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Of course, a lot of times, comedians will say, you know, anybody will say that.
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If they feel, a lot of people feel inaccurately that others have thwarted their careers.
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A lot of people say, well, this person's keeping me down.
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Unless you have real evidence of someone doing it, it's hard to take anything from it.
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So, and there was very little of that with Louis C.K.
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I think one person, I think, may have said that, if I remember correctly.
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I think a few of them were saying that it seemed like he did things to help them.
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And because of the awkward situation, he actually tried to assist them in their career.
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So, Louis C.K., for the first time now, has come out and done a comedy set in New York.
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115 people were there, not knowing he was coming.
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So, you know, and comedy cellar in Carolines in New York, a few clubs like that are famous for big-time comedians popping out out of nowhere.
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Yeah, practice their new set, try out some new material, and then leave.
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So, out of nowhere, Louis C.K. comes out for his first public appearance, does a normal comedy, does not mention.
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Just does his little routine, tries some stuff out, and leaves.
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There was apparently one call from a patron of the appearance said, I wish I would have known in advance so I could have made the decision whether I wanted to come or not.
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Which, you know, I guess I can understand, though, I bet they would have no trouble filling the room.
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And I just think this is an issue when you don't use the justice system.
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There's no punishment that has been allocated already.
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Like, we saw Glenn Thrush from the New York Times, and he's been at Politico and a bunch of different things.
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You know, a left-wing sort of White House-type reporter who also got a Me Too allegation against him.
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The allegation against him was that after late-night parties, he would often hit on younger employees of the papers he was working for.
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And again, he was a—these are people who want to get into journalism.
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He's an important, powerful journalist, and there was no accusation that he actually forced anyone to do anything.
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The accusation was that he should have known better to not fraternize with the younger workers.
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So—and what happened with him is he's back working.
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You know, he did not seem to have—he did lose—he was suspended, I think, for a while, but I think he's back now working.
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But there's no set punishments because there's no legal system here, right?
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And we've decided that these things should be educated in our own minds.
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He seems to have felt no repercussions about it at all.
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He, you know, he was—you know, people—I don't know.
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Because he would—you know, because he's on the right side of things?
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You know, maybe—it doesn't seem to be a real obvious pattern here.
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Is it wrong for Louis C.K. to now be able to come back and talk about things that he thinks are funny in front of people?
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Well, I mean, I think the answer to that is if people don't show up, he should probably stop doing it.
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If he—you know, he'll—if people aren't interested in hearing what he wants to say, then he can't be a stand-up comedian anymore because people don't want to hear him.
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If people like your comedy, they come, and you get to do it for a living.
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If they don't and you suck and they don't come, then you don't.
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So, the outrage here that we have to allow, you know, we have to make sure that he never gets in front of people again and he has to be punished until the end of time, it's kind of a crazy instinct.
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You're looking at this stupid poster the whole time right across from me for the addicted to outrage.
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For those of you listening on radio, that's all I see.
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Well, it is coming out soon, so you can buy that.
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But I guess that's—in some ways, it's tied to that, right?
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I mean, we all act as if we're perfect, and we all act as if we've never made a mistake, and we all act as if we can just slam everybody who has had their public issues, when in reality, like, there has to be—and this is, I think, part of the job of people who really support the Me Too movement and think its work is important, and a lot of it is,
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that you have to take a stand as someone in the Me Too movement to say this particular claim is bullcrap.
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This particular claim doesn't rise to the level of what we're talking about.
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You know, the fact that there's a statement made by someone that's a little bit sexualized or—I mean, who was the guy?
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He was one of the heads of Amazon Development, I think, or I think it was Amazon, not Netflix, but it was one of the big streaming providers.
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And he went to a party, and he said some offensive things to a woman at a party.
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He was hitting on her, and that was, I think, the only allegation, that he was inappropriate in conversation at a drunken Christmas party.
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And, like, that is something—you know, if you look back at The Office, the show, things like that happened all the time.
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And it's not appropriate, but, like, that person would just have a—people would think he's a dirtbag,
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or people would say, do you believe he did this once, but now he doesn't seem to do that anymore.
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And it would kind of blow over, and now we have to make sure they're fired.
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We have to make sure they pay some public penance.
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He did white up—you know, I think he resigned.
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I think he resigned under pressure is what actually happened.
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I mean, who among us haven't been drunk at a Christmas party and started hitting on—
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Certainly, Jeffy would—if these standards were around in the 1830s when Jeffy was coming of age,
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I mean, I can't even imagine what would have happened to him.
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But, you know, look, there is—there should be some level.
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Most—I don't know what the percentage is, but I bet there's half of people while meeting their significant other at work.
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I mean, you have—or—and then if you want to add in people who are at bars that have been drinking, you're even higher, right?
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I mean, like, you—that shouldn't mean if you do something inappropriate, and many women made this argument around the Me Too point when that was really happening,
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Like, I want there to be some available level of sexuality that is able to be expressed by someone I'm trying to court.
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If not, I mean, you know, there has to be some sort of—
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Well, we have to realize that no means no, right?
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And so when, you know, when you start bashing Louis C.K., remember, he asked.
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Um, so how do men and women ever get together again?
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You know, to ask fundamentally, how does the species continue?
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In every relationship, you go in for your first kiss.
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Would you mind signing this contract that allows me to—for my lips to touch yours?
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You know, and there are people who misjudge it, right?
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Like, I mean, I've always been on the case of being such a wuss that you wait way too long,
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and eventually it's so obvious that it's time to go for it.
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You know, sometimes—and that shouldn't be—that can be something where we say,
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Hey, you know, that's inappropriate at this place.
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But, you know, there has to be some room for men and women,
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and maybe men and men and women and women, to do the little dance.
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That's not Harvey Weinstein, but it is part of it.
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Alex Jones was caught in a little bit of a—just a little—kind of a sticky wicket, if you will.
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He was showing how to navigate on his website, on InfoWars.
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Which does seem to be a high percentage of their programming.
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But it's just how do you get to the male vitality formula pills.
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So he's showing how to navigate on his smartphone, and then he taps it, and it goes back to the original screen that had all of his tabs out there.
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Yeah, it brings like—where you see like nine tabs on the screen at the same time.
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It could—well, anybody who's surfing for trans porn, yes.
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For those of us who don't necessarily frequent those sites, can't happen to you.
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So I thought, okay, well, maybe somebody just went in there, and here's what he's going to say, even if it's not the case.
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He says that all the time when there's no evidence of it.
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And that's not what he said, which is fascinating to me.
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Here's instead how he explained his little trans porn site.
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And also, what about the trans porn on your phone, Alex?
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You know, I saw a couple news articles about that.
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I was, like, looking up some reporter we're trying to hire today and punched in some number.
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Everybody's had porn pop on their phones hundreds of times.
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So I'm sitting there with a phone on air showing it to everybody because I couldn't get a URL up in the studio.
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It wasn't the news blurted out because there was nothing there.
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They blurted it to then say something was there.
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I probably had porn menus pop up 500 times on my phone.
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People that look at porn and people that lie about it.
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I don't take phones on air that I look at porn on.
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I mean, if I respond to half the attacks on me, it'll be ridiculous.
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The Amazon ads, the Viagra ads, the weird non-plastic bag ads are taking my iPhone over.
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iPhones didn't used to be that bad like Android.
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It's a great point there with the plastic bag ban ads that are taking over his iPhone.
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He does seem to be admitting that he looks at porn.
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Like, you know, Alex Jones looking at porn or trans porn is absolutely not the worst thing about him.
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Like, that's probably one of his better characteristics.
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The trans community thought it was unusual because he bashes trans people so much.
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And every time there's a trans story, he's, you know, he's raving about it, ranting about it.
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And so it's interesting that he's actually looking at trans porn when he's ranting about trans people.
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There was a years ago, there was a morning show host in Texas City that I once lived in who got into a traffic accident while leaving a gay bar at two in the morning and then left the scene and went home or whatever.
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And then so there's a lot of, you know, and he's a conservative talk show host.
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And so people were wondering, what were you doing at a gay bar?
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And he said, well, it shows you I'm not homophobic like they say I am, doesn't it?
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I'm telling you, it does bode to, you know, one of the things that I live by is clear your search menus.
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Is that, there seems to be a real issue with your phone.
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I mean, iPhone is like, it's a closed ecosystem.
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And when I'm looking for reporters, I will say it has never popped up while looking for reporters to hire.
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Well, is it possible that this particular trans porn star happens to have some journalism chops?
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Is it possible she's out covering the tough stories in between porn shoots?
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Alex knows how tough it is to run a website and have people subscribe to it.
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But I think the days of the porn sites all popping up on your screen, which did happen
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But it does, if you don't, if you don't delete your search entry, if you type in a word and
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it pops, you know, then whatever you've been searching for or bringing up comes up as a
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They've had it happen to them and they related that story to you.
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Can you imagine the amount of trans porn being tweeted and sent to Alex Jones right now?
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I mean, it's got to be, people are probably trolling him constantly with it now.
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Hey, check out this new conspiracy theory I found, Link.
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This guy's going to be opening up so much trans porn.
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It's not like we had a high opinion of Alex Jones and we're like, wow.
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This happened to a pastor while he was on his church.
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Like, the fact that Alex Jones does weird things is the least surprising thing.
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It's keeping him in the news other than being blocked from, you know, bringing people to
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And by the way, let's say once again, we're absolutely opposed to Alex Jones being eliminated
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Put his stuff back up and let the people decide.
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Stop banning people because they have a differing point of view.
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Now, again, Facebook is a private business and so are all the rest.
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The interesting part, I think, in this conversation, because I think we all agree that private
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And we all agree that even though Alex Jones is trash, he should still be left on the platform.
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The interesting addition to this is a lot of these social networks get protections from,
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you know, legal action because they claim to be, hey, we're just user-generated content.
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And so, like, for example, if someone were to post child porn on Twitter, Twitter doesn't – the employees
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of Twitter don't go to prison for child porn, right?
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If someone posts a terroristic threat on Twitter, they then don't, you know –
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You can't go to Twitter for that and blame them.
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And they get protections from these situations, as they should, by the way.
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If someone posts a copyrighted material, then people, you know, if they do it and don't
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try to take it down, they can get in trouble for it.
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But generally speaking, if someone just posts something, they'll have a window there to
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And it's not like they're going to put Twitter out of business for it.
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But for that protection, there's a responsibility.
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And their responsibility is to not control the content.
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So they can't be a partisan entity and get that.
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And Ted Cruz has brought this argument up before.
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I mean, again, I still think they should be able to handle their own content.
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But, you know, maybe you don't get the same protections.
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If you want to go that direction and you want to make it an all-liberal social media
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site, you should, in my view, should be able to create it.
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If you want to create, you know, liberal.com and make it all people tweeting to each other
00:54:50.400
Except that's not what you agreed to when you got these protections.
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So you're going to have to change the rule if you want to do it that way.
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And you're subject to prosecution when somebody does something on your site.
00:55:10.060
And the easiest thing is just let people decide.
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And I think their supposed good motives and the motives of many people in Congress are
00:55:18.700
like, hey, you've got to take a responsibility for what's on your site.
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And they all went in front of Congress and said, you know what?
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People will click on the things they want to click on.
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People will like the things that they want to like.
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Not your responsibility to manipulate what people believe.
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Even if they believe dumb things or inaccurate things, even in that circumstance, when there's
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other crimes that are committed like threats and child porn and stuff, yeah, that's your
00:55:47.920
responsibility to get it off as soon as possible.
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Alex Jones wants to say something that's blatantly false over and over and over and over again.
00:56:00.980
I mean, it's not like I believed in the 9-11 theories to begin with.
00:56:09.040
It's not like I really thought that the Sandy Hook tragedy was a false flag operation.
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You know, there might have been some people who did.
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But I think any normal human being knew that that was an actual event that occurred and
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One thing that Alex was right on is that everything starts at the Gulf of Tonkin.
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You could go back a little bit further to the Rothschilds if you wanted to.