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00:00:05.980 Hi, it's Stu along with Jeffy.

00:00:07.660 Coming up on the podcast today,

00:00:09.760 myself, Jeffy, and Pat talked about

00:00:11.520 the new controversy

00:00:14.260 in Florida. Does the

00:00:16.100 phrase monkey it up mean you're a racist?

00:00:18.380 Apparently so.

00:00:19.780 That's what we're supposed to believe. I don't think

00:00:21.880 even the media believes. It's even become

00:00:23.560 more than the dog whistle.

00:00:26.960 It's even more than that

00:00:28.140 now. It's amazing.

00:00:30.060 We have great clips from

00:00:31.440 the debate between Governor

00:00:33.900 Cuomo and Cynthia Nixon, which was 0.99

00:00:35.800 pretty wild.

00:00:37.620 If you consider bad

00:00:40.140 wild. Yes.

00:00:41.440 It's so funny. We look a little bit at the

00:00:43.720 evolution of Kanye West,

00:00:45.800 which has been shocking,

00:00:47.740 dramatic, but he makes an interesting observation

00:00:50.020 about Trump in an interview

00:00:51.960 for a local radio station.

00:00:54.260 I wonder if you agree with,

00:00:55.860 and I think it's pretty fair

00:00:57.780 as the way he's looking at this.

00:00:59.580 Yeah, it does explain how he looks at it.

00:01:01.780 That's for sure. And I hope he's not giving a roadmap

00:01:03.780 to the left, because I think

00:01:05.020 if they adopted this, it would be dangerous.

00:01:08.320 And then finally,

00:01:09.300 we have a great interview with Aaron E. Carroll.

00:01:11.960 He's a writer. He wrote

00:01:13.480 a book called The Bad Food Bible.

00:01:16.220 And the idea is

00:01:17.400 you hear these reports on social media

00:01:19.480 and they scare the hell out of you. You're not supposed to eat these things

00:01:21.620 or you're going to die. 0.94

00:01:23.420 And when you actually look at the scientific

00:01:25.180 data behind the study, what you find

00:01:27.020 is something completely different.

00:01:29.000 Not so much.

00:01:30.100 Not so much.

00:01:30.720 And I feel like it's an interesting thing

00:01:32.840 to know about because it could be something that actually

00:01:34.840 changes your life. If you are afraid

00:01:36.900 of eating certain types of food or drinking certain types

00:01:38.900 of drinks, and then you

00:01:40.900 actually understand the science behind it,

00:01:43.480 you can make a rational choice of,

00:01:44.840 hey, maybe there is a slight amount of risk,

00:01:47.100 but the risk is so minor, I'm going to enjoy

00:01:49.120 myself instead.

00:01:49.920 I'm not going to be afraid to eat anymore.

00:01:52.580 Thanks for that interview.

00:01:54.440 So it's helped me.

00:01:55.880 This is you being afraid to eat

00:01:57.320 so far that I've seen?

00:01:59.660 Oh, yeah.

00:02:01.240 Oh, my gosh.

00:02:02.200 I'm buying some stock

00:02:03.320 in restaurant corporations.

00:02:04.840 All of this today on the podcast.

00:02:12.600 You're listening to

00:02:13.700 The Best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:02:19.120 It's Thursday, August 30th.

00:02:21.460 Glenn Beck.

00:02:23.580 I was out way past my bedtime.

00:02:26.160 Pat's doing, did I say Glenn?

00:02:27.940 Yeah.

00:02:28.260 Pat's doing Jeffy for Glenn.

00:02:30.360 I was out so late last night.

00:02:32.180 Oh, that's right.

00:02:32.620 You were out partying.

00:02:33.440 Way past my bedtime, so I made me a little dinghy today.

00:02:37.040 Yeah.

00:02:37.460 Def Leppard and Journey.

00:02:39.340 We definitely need to get into this at some point today.

00:02:41.340 I would like to hear how this evening went.

00:02:43.080 Uh-huh.

00:02:43.880 It was good.

00:02:44.300 It was a great concert.

00:02:45.360 It's great stuff.

00:02:46.540 Do you even know those bands, Stu?

00:02:49.100 Yeah.

00:02:49.400 Oh, yeah.

00:02:49.600 I mean, they were out.

00:02:50.180 Yeah.

00:02:50.420 I mean, you know, my formative years of music

00:02:52.680 were the 80s.

00:02:54.160 So, I mean, you got lots of Journey

00:02:55.300 and lots of Def Leppard there.

00:02:56.280 Yeah.

00:02:56.560 That's when they thrived, pretty much.

00:02:58.400 So, yeah, definitely.

00:02:59.140 They were never, you know, two of my,

00:03:00.520 I would say, my favorite bands.

00:03:02.680 But, you know, they were certainly

00:03:03.980 a big part of that era.

00:03:04.980 All right.

00:03:05.280 Well, we'll get into that later on.

00:03:06.600 We've got this Ron DeSantis racism situation. 0.97

00:03:11.320 I mean, the guy's clearly a racist. 0.96

00:03:13.080 He used the word monkey. 0.95

00:03:14.000 I mean, obviously, I don't have to tell people

00:03:16.920 when you say monkey, that's a dog whistle. 0.98

00:03:19.700 Racist. 0.99

00:03:20.180 Yeah. 0.81

00:03:20.500 It's code.

00:03:21.740 Just like apartment.

00:03:22.880 If you say apartment, you know what you're talking about.

00:03:25.180 If you say Chicago, you know what that's all about.

00:03:28.620 Oh, yeah.

00:03:29.180 We all know.

00:03:29.920 Oh, man.

00:03:30.360 We all know. 1.00

00:03:30.560 I know what you're saying there, you racist bastard. 1.00

00:03:33.240 If you say Antifa, we all know. 1.00

00:03:35.660 We all know. 0.98

00:03:36.280 Almost exclusively black organization. 0.97

00:03:38.900 Except for not.

00:03:39.740 But, yes, we still know what you're talking about.

00:03:41.720 We still know what you're talking about.

00:03:42.680 If you say LeBron James, well, you can't be a criticism

00:03:46.900 about just LeBron James.

00:03:48.720 It's you not liking all black people. 1.00

00:03:51.140 If you say Maxine Waters is dumb, that's absolutely. 1.00

00:03:54.540 That's because you think all black people are dumb. 1.00

00:03:57.160 That's one of my favorites because what a sign of the person who, 1.00

00:04:02.280 of their own racism, that they would even make that claim,

00:04:06.320 that they would even, and so many people are leveling that claim at the president 0.99

00:04:13.460 for saying that Maxine Waters was dumb and Don Lemon was dumb. 1.00

00:04:18.300 Okay, because he said two black people were dumb, 1.00

00:04:20.580 you think that all black people should be included in that? 1.00

00:04:24.260 Yeah.

00:04:24.400 Why?

00:04:25.780 Nobody's saying that.

00:04:26.760 No one's saying that.

00:04:27.260 That's what he means, though.

00:04:28.320 No, it's really not.

00:04:29.960 That's what he means.

00:04:30.060 That's what he said.

00:04:30.640 You can read between the lines.

00:04:31.560 That's what he said. 0.99

00:04:32.600 And when he's called, didn't he call Glenn the dumbest or? 1.00

00:04:37.120 Oh, yeah. 0.99

00:04:37.480 He called Glenn all sorts of names. 1.00

00:04:38.620 The failure dumbest. 1.00

00:04:40.340 Yeah. 1.00

00:04:40.880 I mean.

00:04:41.100 And, you know, a lot of them echo what we call him when he's not around.

00:04:44.000 But it's interesting that during that period, he, for some reason, I guess, 1.00

00:04:50.940 believed almost exclusively white people were dumb. 0.99

00:04:55.380 Because in that era, he called almost no black people dumb whatsoever. 1.00

00:04:58.700 It was like 98% white people he called dumb. 1.00

00:05:02.000 At that point, no one said, why does he think all white people are dumb? 1.00

00:05:06.000 Because that would be a really stupid point. 1.00

00:05:08.700 And the fact that now they're like, oh, well, yeah, 1.00

00:05:10.320 but he's called two people dumb that are black now. 1.00

00:05:13.440 That means that, of course, Trump thinks all black people are dumb. 1.00

00:05:16.780 And, you know, in reality, and they go home at night, 1.00

00:05:21.540 and they're about to put their head on the pillow.

00:05:23.700 They all know what they're doing is lying. 1.00

00:05:26.740 They know that does not indicate at all that he thinks all black people are dumb. 0.99

00:05:31.520 But they think if they go on TV and they yell about it enough, 0.99

00:05:34.140 they'll convince enough people to dislike the president or dislike tax cuts

00:05:38.080 or dislike whatever it is.

00:05:39.400 Because racism is something we all think is so horrible,

00:05:43.440 we don't want to be anywhere near it or touching it.

00:05:45.660 Of course, that disproves their point.

00:05:47.280 If we all think it's so bad,

00:05:49.800 then why isn't there anybody outside of Richard Spencer defending it?

00:05:54.620 Mm-hmm.

00:05:55.140 You know?

00:05:55.560 I mean, look, we all think, you know,

00:05:57.860 we think abortion is really bad.

00:06:00.240 You have no problem finding advocates for pro-life viewpoint.

00:06:05.460 There's tons of them.

00:06:06.540 We think tax cuts are really good.

00:06:08.100 You have no problem finding advocates for tax cuts.

00:06:10.960 Why can't you find any advocates for racism?

00:06:13.320 It's because everyone agrees it's terrible.

00:06:16.320 But that destroys your entire programming schedule on MSNBC

00:06:19.940 if you come to that conclusion.

00:06:22.220 So you have to sit there and lie about it night after night after night.

00:06:25.060 And let's get to the actual comment of what Ron DeSantis said.

00:06:30.220 And when you hear it, 0.96

00:06:31.580 it is so clear it has nothing to do with calling his black opponent a monkey. 0.97

00:06:37.120 Of course not. 0.93

00:06:37.580 It has nothing.

00:06:38.400 It's not even close.

00:06:39.220 Listen to this.

00:06:40.340 He is an articulate spokesman for those far-left views,

00:06:43.460 and he's a charismatic candidate.

00:06:45.100 And, you know, I watched those Democrat debates.

00:06:47.060 None of that was my cup of tea.

00:06:48.820 But, I mean, he performed better than the other people there.

00:06:51.320 So we've got to work hard to make sure that we continue Florida going in a good direction.

00:06:56.600 Let's build off the success we've had on Governor Scott.

00:06:59.120 The last thing we need to do is to monkey this up

00:07:02.560 by trying to embrace a socialist agenda with huge tax increases

00:07:06.980 and bankrupting the state.

00:07:08.940 That is not going to work.

00:07:10.220 That's not going to be good for Florida.

00:07:12.060 Any reasonable human being with a brain would see that he's talking about the socialist agenda.

00:07:17.380 You don't want to monkey up their system with a socialist agenda.

00:07:21.460 Right.

00:07:21.740 And, of course, you know, they used to say socialism,

00:07:24.320 calling someone a socialist was racist, too.

00:07:26.420 I guess now that they've embraced it, they're not going to say that anymore.

00:07:29.360 But when you think of socialist leaders, you think almost of exclusively white people.

00:07:34.960 You go back in history, you're thinking socialism.

00:07:37.180 It's usually white people that you're thinking of.

00:07:40.000 That's an amazing one. 0.85

00:07:40.980 Now, the idea that he meant that as trying to call his opponent a monkey

00:07:46.100 is so completely absurd.

00:07:49.520 Likely what happened is he got in between monkey around and muck it up.

00:07:55.000 Yeah.

00:07:55.220 And he kind of combined the two phrases and said monkey it up.

00:07:58.520 Now, if he said monkey around, do you think people would have said the same thing?

00:08:02.700 Is it just the word monkey?

00:08:03.540 If you use the word monkey, yes.

00:08:05.420 It's interesting.

00:08:06.020 Many, many years ago, I had a producer conversation with our friend Glenn Beck

00:08:11.340 about this particular topic because he called his kid, you know,

00:08:15.780 in terms of endearment, his own children, you know, monkeys.

00:08:18.620 That's a very common thing to call your kids.

00:08:21.240 If you watch The Office, Dwight Schrute called Angela his little monkey.

00:08:26.740 Like, you know, that's a very common phrase to be used among white people

00:08:31.380 about white people.

00:08:33.020 Like, you know, it has nothing to do with black people.

00:08:35.740 So, but I told, he would use it as such a phrase of, you know, endearment.

00:08:43.180 I mean, it really, really was.

00:08:44.300 It was something silly or something funny or some, you know, someone, you know,

00:08:48.540 you know, kids jumping off the walls and going crazy and being too excited.

00:08:52.300 And I said to him, I'm like, look, I know what you mean by this,

00:08:54.900 but at some point you're going to say something that when you mean it one way

00:08:59.400 completely and people on the left are going to come out and say you meant it

00:09:03.720 the other way and you're going to wind up sitting on television or radio

00:09:06.900 having to defend yourself, what I meant by the word monkey was not what you

00:09:11.040 were saying.

00:09:12.060 And that's not a winning position.

00:09:13.480 We have evidence of that.

00:09:14.320 I mean, how many years ago did the great Howard Cosell get the boot from

00:09:18.980 television for using that very phrase?

00:09:21.540 And again, like.

00:09:22.440 And that was his excuse.

00:09:23.500 He called his, you know, the grandkids and the kids little monkeys all the time.

00:09:27.140 Yeah.

00:09:27.340 And the quote, you know, he was gone, man.

00:09:29.780 Plus he had people like Muhammad Ali defending him.

00:09:32.480 Yeah.

00:09:32.960 And that still didn't matter.

00:09:34.020 Still didn't matter.

00:09:34.940 It still didn't matter.

00:09:35.840 So it's like you just say, okay, well, we won't say the word anymore.

00:09:38.260 Now, of course, obviously Glenn never listens to any of my advice,

00:09:40.920 so I have no idea if he's said it since.

00:09:42.300 But the point is, you know, it's a way to shut down language because now all

00:09:47.200 you're doing is you're walking on pins and needles trying to make sure you

00:09:50.240 don't say something that you yourself know has nothing to do with racism.

00:09:55.400 And everyone around you knows has nothing to do with racism, but you're trying to

00:10:00.600 stop from saying something they can use to fake the audience out into believing

00:10:06.200 that you did mean racism.

00:10:07.820 It's the fake outrage.

00:10:08.920 Yeah, totally.

00:10:09.760 It's the addicted to outrage.

00:10:11.500 I mean, like you said yesterday, this book couldn't be any more relevant.

00:10:16.660 This book couldn't be better timed than it is for that to come out in what,

00:10:21.040 three weeks or so on September 18th, and we see evidence of it every single day,

00:10:28.280 how people are addicted to just being outraged.

00:10:31.200 Yeah.

00:10:31.440 It's so manufactured.

00:10:33.320 It's so plastic and unreal that hopefully the American people are going to see through it.

00:10:42.400 I hope.

00:10:43.040 I hope so, too.

00:10:43.960 I don't even like Ron DeSantis, but you know that that's not what he meant.

00:10:49.600 I mean, he turned me off so much with that ad he did where he seemed like a cult member

00:10:54.540 for, like he's in a Donald Trump cult or something, which is so weird.

00:11:00.700 That's what got him the endorsement, too, from the president, man.

00:11:03.880 Well, he should get the endorsement for Trump when you do an ad like this.

00:11:07.620 Everyone knows my husband, Ron DeSantis, is endorsed by President Trump, but he's also an amazing dad.

00:11:13.700 Ron loves playing with the kids.

00:11:15.580 Build the wall.

00:11:16.840 He reads stories.

00:11:18.280 Then Mr. Trump said, you're fired.

00:11:21.540 I love that part.

00:11:22.720 He's teaching Madison to talk.

00:11:24.480 Make America great again.

00:11:27.120 People say Ron's all Trump, but he is so much more.

00:11:31.500 Big league.

00:11:32.620 So good.

00:11:33.740 I just thought you should know.

00:11:35.260 I mean, that's embarrassing.

00:11:36.400 It is.

00:11:37.620 It is.

00:11:38.260 Absolutely.

00:11:39.320 No matter what you think about Donald Trump, and I think he's done some great things,

00:11:43.560 that's embarrassing.

00:11:44.760 For anyone.

00:11:45.260 You should never be.

00:11:46.740 That's a near religious association with a person.

00:11:50.740 That's what I felt like.

00:11:51.920 Yeah.

00:11:52.380 It's cultish.

00:11:53.220 There used to be a time in the United States where politicians talked about policies and

00:11:57.240 not just argued about who liked Trump more or who liked Trump less.

00:12:01.040 That seems to be the only standard of our politics at this point.

00:12:04.040 You know, Democrats all argue, just like this guy in Tallahassee, he won largely because

00:12:10.420 he was saying he hated Trump more than the other candidates.

00:12:13.160 And DeSantis won because he's saying that he likes Trump more than the other candidates.

00:12:16.780 It's just like, is there any other standard?

00:12:19.080 I mean, you know, Donald Trump was beat up for a long time in his pre-politics career for

00:12:26.180 just having this gigantic ego and thinking everything was about him.

00:12:31.260 Well, I guess he was right the entire time.

00:12:34.380 I guess the whole world is just about this one person.

00:12:37.540 You know, both parties seem completely obsessed with him all the time.

00:12:41.960 Yeah.

00:12:42.120 It really is amazing.

00:12:43.220 And of course, they don't look back to, you know, previous situations when we come to these

00:12:47.060 controversies, like when Barack Obama in 2008 was talking about politicians and made a very

00:12:56.760 similar comment.

00:12:58.740 Listen.

00:12:59.320 I come from Chicago.

00:13:01.540 Rhesus.

00:13:01.860 So, so I want to be honest, it's not as if it's just Republicans who have monkeyed around

00:13:08.020 with elections on the past.

00:13:09.120 Sometimes Democrats have to.

00:13:10.560 Oh my God. 0.99

00:13:11.120 Racist. 0.99

00:13:11.640 Double racist. 0.99

00:13:12.640 He said Chicago and monkeyed. 0.96

00:13:15.420 Wow.

00:13:16.280 I mean, look, we all know it's a common phrase and to go on television and pretend that this

00:13:22.580 is some big controversy is completely absurd.

00:13:25.880 They all know it's not true and it's just feeding the addiction to outrage from the audience.

00:13:30.340 And I don't know.

00:13:32.400 Like at some point it'd be nice if we could get past this.

00:13:34.380 I don't know that we can.

00:13:35.460 I don't know.

00:13:35.780 I don't know that society in general can.

00:13:37.960 Yeah.

00:13:38.280 I don't know.

00:13:38.780 I don't know.

00:13:39.380 You know, Glenn's book goes through some ideas for solutions, but man, I don't know

00:13:45.760 if they're going to work.

00:13:46.840 I think they have to work or we're screwed.

00:13:49.120 I mean, we've lost, we've come to the point where. 0.93

00:13:51.420 Give me one.

00:13:51.960 Cause I can't think of any.

00:13:53.500 What?

00:13:53.960 Give me one solution.

00:13:54.980 Oh, you've got.

00:13:56.020 Proposes.

00:13:56.460 I'm not, I'm not giving away his book.

00:13:57.600 All right.

00:13:57.820 Um, but if you, uh, available pre-order at amazon.com.

00:14:01.900 Yes.

00:14:02.140 September 18th release date.

00:14:03.760 It is, uh, one of those.

00:14:06.580 Just give me two of them.

00:14:07.440 Two of them.

00:14:07.940 Okay.

00:14:08.140 I'll give you two.

00:14:08.580 So I don't have to.

00:14:09.140 We just need one.

00:14:09.920 I mean, really, I mean, Pat was getting greedy now, but I just like they're one.

00:14:12.880 Yeah.

00:14:13.200 I know.

00:14:13.680 I know.

00:14:13.900 I don't know that there is going to be one that works.

00:14:16.020 I mean, because I just don't, I think it's easy.

00:14:19.180 You know, I mean, I think it's easy.

00:14:20.660 You get in these little, you get in these little, uh, like you get on these railroad tracks that

00:14:25.280 lead you to outrage every day.

00:14:27.200 And you know, it's so easy to stay on them.

00:14:29.480 Yeah.

00:14:29.600 You know, it's like, it's like with your phone every day you wake up and you look at your

00:14:32.340 phone and I don't know if Pat, you're not a big phone guy, but I mean, I think a lot

00:14:35.260 of America now is just basically addicted to their phone.

00:14:37.200 So you get up and you look at your phone and you read the news and you read emails and

00:14:40.400 you tweet and you respond to people on Instagram and you do all the things that you're supposed

00:14:43.200 to do on social media every day.

00:14:44.500 And then you realize, wow, I just wasted like 40% of my day on this phone.

00:14:50.500 There's an app that they have out there.

00:14:52.660 We've talked about before where it monitors how long you're looking at the phone basically.

00:14:57.240 And they give you a report every day and good God, it's terrifying.

00:15:01.020 I mean, it's, you know, seven, eight hours.

00:15:03.200 Yeah.

00:15:03.840 Mine's a little weird because when I have like, I have a GPS on my phone or I have a,

00:15:08.360 you know, a podcast app that'll listen on the way home and it'll add, you know, large

00:15:12.560 portions of time, but it's still way too much.

00:15:14.680 I mean, it's still hours and hours every day.

00:15:16.440 I need to get that because I think I'd be pretty proud at the end of most weeks.

00:15:19.400 It would be zero minutes on the phone today, zero minutes on the phone this week, zero minutes

00:15:26.200 on the phone this month.

00:15:26.400 You don't use your phone to listen to podcasts and listen to, listen to whatever.

00:15:30.440 I do use my iPad a lot, but I, the phone, not that much.

00:15:33.280 Well, I mean, the iPad would be your, it would be your version, right?

00:15:36.300 And it's not bad to go on these things, but it, it controls us.

00:15:40.720 It's, it's like the phone is making the decision for you rather than you making the decision

00:15:44.180 for you.

00:15:44.960 You know, there's some people who do these, like there's a big thing on podcasts now

00:15:48.880 are these sort of people who do these life reorganization type of, you know, I guess

00:15:54.000 self-help type of things where you think about what you're doing and make decisions every

00:15:57.620 day rather than letting the decisions of the day make you do things.

00:16:02.320 And one of the big suggestions is before you go to bed, write a list out of the three or

00:16:07.840 four things you want to get accomplished the next day.

00:16:10.480 And when you get up, don't get on the phone and start answering emails and get yourself

00:16:14.380 into that wormhole where you're just, you're reading tweets and you're doing all those

00:16:17.080 things.

00:16:17.980 Instead, start the day with looking at that list you made the night before when it seems

00:16:22.780 so sensible that you're going to get them done, you know, and then look at them and

00:16:26.680 get those done first before you start diving into any of the frivolous things you do on

00:16:30.700 the phone.

00:16:31.640 And I think the same thing happens with outrage.

00:16:33.900 Like we, you know, we, I think every night we would go to bed and say, you know what, 1.00

00:16:37.140 tomorrow I'm not going to, you know, react to these stupid things the way I did today. 0.99

00:16:40.760 But then you get to turn the phone on and everyone's pissed off. 1.00

00:16:43.520 And then some liberal says something stupid. 0.99

00:16:45.580 And by the end of the day, you're out rich. 1.00

00:16:47.880 Yeah.

00:16:48.080 And it is like an addiction.

00:16:49.400 It's just like how Glenn used to describe drinking.

00:16:51.520 He started the day saying, I didn't want to drink.

00:16:53.380 And by the end of the day, he'd be drinking.

00:16:55.180 And every day he'd say, before he went to bed, say the next day, I'm not going to drink.

00:16:58.480 And the whole cycle repeats itself.

00:17:00.280 It really, I think calling it an addiction, I don't know.

00:17:03.620 I mean, he has a lot of science in the book about why it actually is a physical addiction

00:17:07.880 and why it fits that description.

00:17:09.840 But even if you don't believe that it's a physical medical, you know, addiction, it's something

00:17:14.960 really freaking similar and it's not healthy.

00:17:17.620 It really isn't healthy.

00:17:19.400 Yeah.

00:17:20.460 And it really isn't racism.

00:17:22.020 No.

00:17:22.420 What Ron DeSantis said yesterday.

00:17:24.800 Ron DeSantis' opponent has spoken out about what he said yesterday.

00:17:30.780 And we were kind of hoping, okay, well, maybe he'll take the high road here.

00:17:34.900 Maybe he'll diffuse this whole thing and say, look, that's clearly not what he was not calling

00:17:39.780 me a monkey.

00:17:42.140 Let's see how he responded.

00:17:44.660 Do you want an apology from Congressman DeSantis?

00:17:46.960 Do you think you're owed one?

00:17:47.720 Well, you know, let me be articulate and clear here, which is we're better than this in Florida.

00:17:56.340 Good announcement.

00:17:56.780 I believe the Congressman can be better than this.

00:17:58.180 Let me stop for one second.

00:17:59.180 You don't need to announce that you're going to be articulate and clear.

00:18:02.220 Just be articulate and clear.

00:18:03.440 Just do it.

00:18:04.000 Let other people judge whether you're being articulate and clear.

00:18:07.140 That's not for you to say. 0.99

00:18:08.680 It's not, you don't need to, by the way, I'm not going to just say stupid things in this 0.67

00:18:12.540 next, and I'm not going to be really convoluted. 0.82

00:18:15.540 Let me just monkey up my language right here. 0.64

00:18:18.280 Oh, I've done it.

00:18:19.160 No, I've done it. 0.63

00:18:19.880 I'm a racist too.

00:18:21.620 So just completely, everyone does that.

00:18:24.760 And that's just a delay tactic to get your thoughts together, but you really don't need

00:18:28.020 to announce it.

00:18:28.680 Okay.

00:18:28.840 I'm sorry.

00:18:29.340 Sorry.

00:18:30.700 I regret that his mentor in politics is Donald Trump, but I do believe that the voters of

00:18:36.180 the state of Florida are going to reject the politics of division.

00:18:39.880 What about the politics of dancing?

00:18:41.200 They believe that we're better than that, which is why I'm going to spend my time over

00:18:43.440 the next two plus months getting around this state, talking about the issues that matter

00:18:47.460 to everyday voters in this state.

00:18:49.720 Kitchen table issues, healthcare, education, making sure we clean up our environment, which

00:18:54.620 our governor has been derelict with the Republican legislature to do.

00:18:57.980 And I think that's how we're going to win in November.

00:19:01.480 But it's clear that the congressman is going to join Donald Trump in the swamp.

00:19:07.480 We're going to leave them there.

00:19:08.700 We're going to continue to press toward a higher mark.

00:19:11.600 It's unfortunate.

00:19:12.540 We got to go down in the politics of division.

00:19:15.680 I think we should go down the politics of dancing, the politics of feeling good, the politics

00:19:22.220 of moving and make your message understood.

00:19:26.080 You know what I'm saying?

00:19:26.680 If I could be clear, if I could be articulate when I'm stating these things.

00:19:31.880 It was funny, too, because I think in his statement, he actually called, DeSantis called

00:19:37.640 him articulate, right?

00:19:38.940 Yeah, he's an articulate advocate for his values.

00:19:41.040 Yeah, he did.

00:19:41.820 He did.

00:19:42.280 You know, he is an articulate.

00:19:44.020 Okay, this is where he's actually speaking about Gillum directly.

00:19:49.300 You know, he is an articulate spokesman for those far left views.

00:19:52.820 And he's a charismatic candidate.

00:19:56.240 Then he says, the last thing we need to do is monkey this up by trying to embrace a socialist

00:20:02.620 agenda with huge tax increases and bankrupting the state.

00:20:06.820 Okay.

00:20:06.980 So Gillum obviously, unfortunately, did not take the high road, but it's just simple English.

00:20:14.320 Can we pay attention to the sentence structure here?

00:20:18.340 If you're looking to what monkey this up is talking about, the subject is not Gillum.

00:20:24.980 It's socialist agenda.

00:20:27.360 Can we at least speak English here and look at it as normal thinking, feeling adults?

00:20:39.840 No, we can't.

00:20:40.420 No, we can't.

00:20:40.800 Quite clearly, the answer is no.

00:20:42.100 It's no.

00:20:42.480 No.

00:20:45.140 The best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:20:53.480 You missed the real entertainment of the evening.

00:20:56.000 That's what I heard.

00:20:56.780 Which was the Cynthia Nixon-Andrew Cuomo debate.

00:21:00.460 Uh-huh. 0.98

00:21:01.380 Which, again, I mean, they're both sort of nuts, right? 0.99

00:21:05.400 Oh, yeah. 0.98

00:21:05.580 Like, they're both, you know, socialists.

00:21:07.600 But that's what makes it so great.

00:21:08.520 But that's what makes it fun, yeah.

00:21:09.500 These hardcore leftists are eating their own.

00:21:11.820 I love it when that happens.

00:21:13.000 It is entertaining.

00:21:14.420 It is entertaining.

00:21:15.200 And they were very, very upset at each other.

00:21:17.040 There was a lot of fighting that went on.

00:21:19.420 It's a weird race because you have a guy whose legacy name in that state, you know, his dad,

00:21:23.980 Mario Cuomo, of course, was governor.

00:21:26.100 He's currently governor.

00:21:27.580 His brother is Chris Cuomo, who's on CNN every night.

00:21:30.880 Uh-huh.

00:21:31.220 And then Cynthia Nixon, of course, well-known for Sex and the City. 1.00

00:21:34.960 She was, like, the one that people didn't really like that much on that show.

00:21:38.040 So, uh, and, uh...

00:21:39.860 She's also essentially socialist, isn't she?

00:21:42.200 Yeah, she's like a Democrat. 1.00

00:21:43.200 She's like an Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez policy-wise.

00:21:46.180 So she's attacking from the left, uh, Andrew Cuomo and saying, you know, Andrew Cuomo, who

00:21:51.320 has launched how many investigations against the Trump administration, who has, you know,

00:21:56.420 trashed him at every, at every turn, is too pro-Trump for New York.

00:22:02.620 That's basically her case.

00:22:04.260 Wow.

00:22:04.620 Uh, let's listen to some of the clips from this.

00:22:06.400 Uh, first of all, uh, they're...

00:22:08.360 I mean, this is a back and forth.

00:22:10.160 This is about lying.

00:22:11.520 Listen.

00:22:12.860 He used the MTA like an ATM, and we see the result.

00:22:17.020 He has had seven and a half years to avoid this very avoidable crisis in our New York City

00:22:23.220 subway, and he has done next to nothing.

00:22:26.120 Governor, would you like to respond to that?

00:22:27.360 My opponent lives in the world of fiction.

00:22:32.420 I live in the world of facts.

00:22:35.480 Let's do, let's just do a few facts, okay?

00:22:39.040 The subway system is owned by New York City.

00:22:42.820 The subway system...

00:22:43.180 The MTA has been controlled by the state since 1965.

00:22:46.100 Can you, can you stop interrupting?

00:22:48.540 Can you stop interrupting?

00:22:49.620 Can you stop lying?

00:22:51.100 Yeah.

00:22:51.880 Uh, as soon as you do.

00:22:53.720 So, he is admitting that he's lying there, apparently.

00:22:58.080 He will stop lying as soon as she stops lying, is his premise here.

00:23:02.820 Uh, it's amazing because, first of all, you hear all the little pre-made catchphrases that

00:23:07.400 are built in there.

00:23:08.220 Uh, you use the MTA like it's an ATM.

00:23:11.040 Uh-huh.

00:23:11.500 And you live in a world of fiction, and I live in a world of fact.

00:23:15.500 Uh, you know, the back and forth is somewhat uninteresting to me.

00:23:19.140 I don't care, really, what happens with the New York City subways.

00:23:22.460 Uh, I don't have to deal with them anymore, so I, you know, if, uh, if they exist, if

00:23:27.360 they don't exist, if they turn them into a museum, if they, you know, if, uh, if they

00:23:31.640 never get used again, eh, not really a huge factor in my life.

00:23:35.800 However, it's interesting to see them go back and forth.

00:23:38.080 It's, again, you know, she's, of course, arguing for more centralized control, which is what

00:23:43.960 you do when you're a democratic socialist, right?

00:23:46.300 Uh, and, uh, I don't, you know, I don't know the ins and outs of the subway debate there,

00:23:51.240 but it's kind of a, it's amazing that, like, you could tell she's tried to read up and try

00:23:56.940 to, you know, inject herself into this race as someone who's credible rather than just

00:24:01.720 a celebrity.

00:24:03.040 Uh, you know, whether this is going to work or not, I don't know.

00:24:05.980 She's a huge underdog. 1.00

00:24:07.180 She did go on to, uh, we always talk about bringing everything to race. 0.91

00:24:10.060 It's kind of a thing you have to do as a democratic candidate.

00:24:14.260 And certainly if you're a democratic socialist, every issue is really a race issue.

00:24:17.580 And Cynthia Nixon found a new one. 1.00

00:24:19.460 Listen, you even ran a campaign contest, giving away a bong to lucky supporters.

00:24:25.020 What do you say to a parent who's trying to teach their children to stay away from drugs?

00:24:30.660 So I think it's very important that we legalize marijuana here in New York state.

00:24:36.340 Eight other states have done it, plus the District of Columbia.

00:24:39.760 There are a lot of reasons to do it, but first and foremost, because it's a racial justice

00:24:43.560 issue.

00:24:44.400 Because people across all ethnic and racial lines use marijuana at roughly the same rates,

00:24:50.520 but the arrests for marijuana are 80% black and Latino.

00:24:55.400 Marijuana in New York state has been legal for white people for a long time, and it's time 1.00

00:24:59.580 to make it legal for everybody else.

00:25:01.060 What do you say to parents who don't want their kids starting to use drugs?

00:25:06.740 That's great.

00:25:07.920 I would say that people now don't choose to use marijuana because of its legality or

00:25:16.560 illegality.

00:25:17.420 But what we need to stop is we need to stop the very uneven arrests of people of color for

00:25:24.800 marijuana.

00:25:25.300 The way I would teach your kids to not do drugs is to completely avoid your question.

00:25:29.640 That's what I would like to do.

00:25:32.700 I mean, you know, look, the issue, if marijuana, if these numbers are correct, which they may

00:25:39.960 be, I mean, I would assume largely a lot of that has to do with, you know, the way cities

00:25:45.700 are going to be policed as opposed to rural areas, right?

00:25:48.120 I mean, you're going to have a larger minority populations in cities.

00:25:50.860 There's going to be more police officers in cities.

00:25:52.980 There's going to be largely, you know, more arrests of people in cities than someone who's

00:25:57.660 on their, you know, farm in the middle of upstate New York smoking pot.

00:26:01.820 If those numbers are right, I mean, there's probably very logical reasons for them.

00:26:05.640 But beyond that, you know, if you think there's a problem with racial prejudice in the police

00:26:13.060 department, the excuse isn't to make everything legal.

00:26:15.860 Like you don't say like, well, you know, black people get arrested at higher rates for murder. 0.70

00:26:19.680 Therefore, murder is legal. 1.00

00:26:21.580 That's a really stupid solution to the problem you're trying to attack. 0.98

00:26:26.520 So, I mean, there are many reasons and arguments to be made about whether drugs should be legal. 1.00

00:26:32.280 You know, Jeff, you can give them to you if you want them.

00:26:34.460 I mean, geez.

00:26:35.640 There's a lot of them.

00:26:36.500 But still, there's not a there's no reason to make something legal because of the fact

00:26:42.140 you think it's a racial issue.

00:26:43.440 That's a totally different issue.

00:26:44.700 So if you believe police are racist and they're just racing, you know, looking for reasons 0.97

00:26:48.620 to arrest black people, they're going to find other reasons to arrest black people. 0.97

00:26:51.920 Right. 1.00

00:26:52.140 Right.

00:26:52.300 If you can make pot a not a crime, they'll find another reason to arrest them because 0.97

00:26:58.180 your premise is they're all racist and they want to arrest black people for no reason.

00:27:01.600 So why on earth would this make any difference in the problem you're trying to solve? 0.95

00:27:06.820 I guess the answer would be it's not.

00:27:08.780 That's not.

00:27:09.940 Cynthia Nixon also wants Medicare for all just like so many on the left. 1.00

00:27:15.220 Now, we talked about this yesterday on the TV show.

00:27:16.940 If you get a chance to go back and watch it, talking about how there's a list of the top

00:27:21.620 five candidates in for the Democratic nomination in 2020.

00:27:26.360 Uh, and four of the five, I think really fairly could be called democratic socialists, or at

00:27:34.320 least at this point running as democratic socialists.

00:27:36.880 I mean, Bernie Sanders has already admitted it right now in 2013, Bernie Sanders introduced

00:27:42.740 Medicare for all for the country in 2013.

00:27:45.420 He got exactly zero co-sponsors on that bill.

00:27:48.640 Zero.

00:27:50.000 When he re-announced it this time, he got Kirsten Gillibrand who was there.

00:27:55.520 She's in the top five.

00:27:57.080 She, he got, um, uh, Elizabeth Warren showed up for that one. 1.00

00:28:01.340 She's in the top five.

00:28:02.940 Uh, and there's one other one.

00:28:05.800 Oh, Kamala Harris, who's also in the top five and she showed up. 0.97

00:28:09.640 Four of the top five supported that.

00:28:11.300 You know, Joe Biden is just like, I think at home in a, in a, in a, in a hammock at this

00:28:15.120 point.

00:28:15.720 Uh, but he was, uh, actually number one on the list of the, I think most likely, which is

00:28:20.200 an amazing statement.

00:28:21.000 But I mean, you could, you could argue Biden isn't a democratic socialist.

00:28:24.020 I think he's a super liberal guy, uh, you know, and I think when he gets in the middle

00:28:27.980 of this campaign, he's going to start sounding a lot like a democratic socialist because he's

00:28:31.520 going to have to defend his left flank to win that primary.

00:28:34.800 So you're going to get a democratic socialist as the democratic nominee under most situations

00:28:42.700 we can consider right now.

00:28:44.060 Now, you know, someone else jumps in, it could change the race completely, but it's kind

00:28:47.680 of interesting.

00:28:48.120 Here's Cynthia Nixon talking about Medicare for all. 1.00

00:28:51.580 Ms. Nixon, you are proposing that New York state moved to a single payer healthcare system,

00:28:56.060 also known as Medicare for all.

00:28:58.460 Everybody would be covered.

00:29:00.140 A Rand Corporation study found this would cost $139 billion.

00:29:04.380 That's almost the size of the state budget.

00:29:06.500 It would double it.

00:29:07.740 How do you plan to make this happen?

00:29:09.020 So the Rand Corporation also said that it would be a tremendous savings for New York state.

00:29:15.940 Um, we can, we can ensure all of our people here by a single payer Medicare for all system.

00:29:21.960 We can do it better.

00:29:22.920 We can do it cheaper.

00:29:24.300 We can do it with no copays, with no deductibles.

00:29:27.420 And 98% of New Yorkers would pay less for their health care than they do now.

00:29:33.320 The same study also found this would nearly triple the state tax rate for an average family

00:29:37.940 from 6% to 18%.

00:29:40.540 That's a family making roughly $100,000 to $150,000.

00:29:44.000 If you look at, say, what a family now who earns, let's say, $49,000, the cost of health care

00:29:51.400 for that family is $17,500.

00:29:55.860 The cost between the individual and the employer would be a sixth of that.

00:30:03.220 What we would have is a payroll tax in order to pay for it. 0.73

00:30:06.700 It would be taken out of people's payrolls the same way Social Security is taken out.

00:30:11.780 It would be an overall savings for 98% of New Yorkers.

00:30:15.540 And it would be an enormous savings for employers here.

00:30:19.240 It is seen that it could create 200,000 jobs because employers would no longer be responsible

00:30:25.620 for providing health care for their employees.

00:30:30.320 Wow.

00:30:30.980 I mean, that is...

00:30:31.900 I mean, none of what she said made sense.

00:30:33.140 No.

00:30:33.940 None of it.

00:30:34.820 It's going to double the budget, but it would also provide savings.

00:30:37.780 It's going to save us lots of money.

00:30:38.760 What?

00:30:39.200 It's going to create 200,000 jobs.

00:30:40.580 Who's paying the 200,000 people?

00:30:43.080 Right?

00:30:43.380 Yeah.

00:30:43.740 These are all...

00:30:44.900 Yeah.

00:30:45.280 You know, I mean, as we all know, when you start a gigantic government program, there

00:30:52.160 is always some report you can cite that it's going to be a savings.

00:30:55.200 And all they have to do is take it out of their payroll.

00:30:57.200 That's all they have to do.

00:30:58.060 That's it.

00:30:58.400 Is just take it out of your payroll.

00:31:00.140 Well, is that...

00:31:01.880 I mean, that's what he's saying.

00:31:03.700 Yeah.

00:31:03.960 It just...

00:31:04.600 It's a...

00:31:05.860 Payroll tax is better than any other tax.

00:31:08.940 Well, it's a savings.

00:31:10.060 Well, it's a savings in that it comes out of my paycheck before I get my paycheck.

00:31:13.720 So, that's a good thing.

00:31:15.000 I don't see how.

00:31:17.080 It's the same money.

00:31:18.000 It's still coming out of my paycheck.

00:31:19.860 It's less money, though.

00:31:21.200 It's really not.

00:31:22.580 No.

00:31:23.020 You just say it's cheaper.

00:31:23.780 It's really not.

00:31:24.140 And then, I mean, we all know, obviously, the problems that go along with this.

00:31:26.820 I mean, we had this story of...

00:31:27.900 There's an NHS story here that I've been holding on to.

00:31:30.080 A woman, mother, dies after failing to raise the 200,000 pounds. 1.00

00:31:39.340 So, you know, about 250,000, $300,000.

00:31:43.000 She needed to get a cancer drug that was actually covered by NHS, but only covered for a different

00:31:50.380 type of cancer.

00:31:51.440 So, they have really promising results on her type of cancer as well.

00:31:56.000 And she wanted to try to get it covered.

00:31:58.280 They wouldn't cover it.

00:31:59.560 And they let her die because she couldn't raise the money in time.

00:32:04.940 And we've seen that, you know, stories like that over and over and over again from these

00:32:07.860 systems.

00:32:08.480 Now, what she's arguing for is not quite all the way to Great Britain, but it's not far

00:32:11.900 away either.

00:32:12.580 It's certainly a nice big step in that direction.

00:32:14.300 And because it will go bankrupt and because it will fail, they will eventually have to

00:32:18.120 go to a more NHS type system.

00:32:20.440 Yeah, they'll say they didn't go far enough.

00:32:22.080 Yep.

00:32:22.420 It's always the answer.

00:32:23.680 We didn't charge enough, not enough taxes, not enough money from rich people.

00:32:26.940 We didn't get enough government control.

00:32:28.560 If we only could get that this time, it will work.

00:32:30.420 Until next time when we have to do it again.

00:32:37.280 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:32:44.300 You know, it's been fun to see over the years is the evolution of Kanye West.

00:33:02.460 Is it an evolution or is it just, I mean, it's a complete change.

00:33:06.620 Yeah.

00:33:07.500 Yes.

00:33:08.120 180 degrees, the opposite direction.

00:33:10.360 Do you remember right after Hurricane Katrina, they had that big fundraiser?

00:33:14.300 And all the celebrities got together and they went on TV and Kanye was one of them.

00:33:18.500 And he and Michael Myers were sharing the stage and talking about how bad things were and

00:33:24.540 how you needed to donate.

00:33:26.080 And here's this happened.

00:33:27.760 The destruction of the spirit of the people of Southern Louisiana and Mississippi may end

00:33:31.500 up being the most tragic loss of all. 0.96

00:33:33.780 George Bush doesn't care about black people. 0.98

00:33:37.760 Okay. 0.97

00:33:38.340 So good.

00:33:39.300 Uh, Kanye going off script just a tad.

00:33:42.220 And, uh, Michael Myers was like, I, I don't want to be here for this.

00:33:46.460 No, I don't.

00:33:47.100 That's not on the teleprompter.

00:33:48.940 Why were you saying that, Kanye?

00:33:50.880 Legitimately incredible.

00:33:51.600 And his delivery is so good of it. 0.98

00:33:53.700 George Bush doesn't care about black people. 0.91

00:33:56.340 He doesn't even try to make a transition. 0.98

00:33:58.100 Not at all.

00:33:58.420 Louisiana and Mississippi may end up being the most tragic loss of all. 0.97

00:34:02.380 George Bush doesn't care about black people. 0.97

00:34:08.200 So not caring about black people is funny, is it? 1.00

00:34:11.220 No, it is. 0.98

00:34:11.860 No.

00:34:12.080 Just the way he presents it is funny.

00:34:16.480 But it's a little different now.

00:34:17.580 Yeah, it's changed quite a bit with Donald Trump.

00:34:19.500 He's a big fan of Trump.

00:34:21.460 And, uh, he was doing an interview on 107.5 WGCI about, uh, apparently Donald Trump, or

00:34:30.160 at least that came up in the interview.

00:34:31.440 Here's what he said.

00:34:33.020 I feel that he cares about the way black people feel about him.

00:34:42.480 That's true, I would say.

00:34:43.640 Yeah, I'd say that's true.

00:34:44.340 And he would like for black people to like him.

00:34:50.300 Yes.

00:34:50.720 Like they did when he was cool and the rap songs and all this and stuff.

00:34:54.620 WWE.

00:34:55.420 Yeah, and he, and he will do the things that are necessary to make that happen.

00:35:03.960 Because he's got an ego like all the rest of us.

00:35:08.380 And he doesn't, he, he wants to be the greatest president.

00:35:12.400 And he knows that he can't be the greatest president without the acceptance of the black community.

00:35:19.420 So, it's something that he's going to work towards.

00:35:22.900 But, we're going to have to speak to him.

00:35:25.700 Well, that, that was actually a decent case that he lays out.

00:35:31.400 Yeah, we all know that, that President Trump likes to be liked, wants to be liked, and will try to please people.

00:35:39.300 He's a pleaser.

00:35:40.060 And so, that's kind of what he's playing into there.

00:35:44.120 He likes the people who like him, and he doesn't like the people who don't like him.

00:35:47.060 Exactly.

00:35:47.420 And, you know, if the black community, it's, I, again, one of these groups eventually is going to learn this.

00:35:53.060 You know, if you, I mean, and I think, you know, Kanye and Kardashian and Kim Kardashian are two of the probably, I guess, the leaders in this.

00:36:01.160 Because they know that if they're, if they take.

00:36:03.220 Well, Kim's already used it. 0.93

00:36:04.220 If they take the hit of going out there.

00:36:05.620 And it worked.

00:36:06.060 And backing Donald Trump, he'll give you what you want.

00:36:08.180 And was there any doubt that when Kim Kardashian presented the woman who was in prison for 20 years for the first time drug offense, was there any doubt in anybody's mind that the way she presented that to the president then showed up and was respectful and never, never said anything bad about him?

00:36:26.040 Was there any doubt in anybody's mind he was going to pardon her?

00:36:28.820 No way.

00:36:29.340 No doubt in my mind.

00:36:30.760 And he did.

00:36:31.480 No doubt.

00:36:31.800 No matter whether he should have or not.

00:36:33.000 It was done.

00:36:33.420 It worked.

00:36:33.820 It was a done deal.

00:36:34.620 He knew it was going to happen.

00:36:35.360 They did it right.

00:36:36.040 They did it the way it was going to affect Trump positively.

00:36:40.940 And I think Kanye's playing that same game now.

00:36:44.940 That's interesting because that's a different explanation than I would have thought he gave.

00:36:49.760 Yeah, because until I heard this, I was kind of under the impression that he just likes to be a contrarian from time to time.

00:36:56.960 That he just likes to stir things up once in a while.

00:36:59.720 And so he just took the opposite stance of most of his peers and just said, I like Trump because he's never really outlined that I've heard.

00:37:11.620 Maybe, maybe you have missed, you know, I try to stay as current on Kanye affairs as I possibly can, but it's possible I may have missed an interview where he outlined exactly what policies he likes about Trump.

00:37:23.400 But when I've seen him interviewed, he hasn't been able to articulate anything he particularly likes about him or why he doesn't there.

00:37:31.920 And he doesn't really there.

00:37:33.160 He just kind of, well, he's he wants to be liked by us.

00:37:37.080 So he's going to try to do the things that we like.

00:37:39.700 So we like him.

00:37:41.340 Right.

00:37:41.700 And I think, look, that effect is exaggerated with Trump, obviously.

00:37:45.420 But, you know, I think that it's a good approach for everybody.

00:37:48.100 Right. 0.97

00:37:48.480 I mean, if you don't come out and be a constant jerk to somebody, you have a better chance of getting something that helps you. 0.98

00:37:54.100 You know, we certainly all understand that when it comes to our business lives. 0.98

00:37:57.660 We certainly all understand that when it comes to our family lives.

00:38:00.600 Yet when it comes to politics, all, you know, all we do is and this is not just us.

00:38:05.160 It's the other side as well.

00:38:06.040 All we do is just rip each other constantly.

00:38:07.780 And, you know, people always say, well, you're never going to change, you know, Democrats minds.

00:38:13.600 You're never going to change that.

00:38:14.760 Well, I mean, I don't know.

00:38:16.380 Look at I mean, Trump, it does not get elected without Democrats.

00:38:19.940 He has absolutely no chance.

00:38:21.960 I mean, he does not win that race without.

00:38:25.180 What is it?

00:38:26.020 You know, 10 or 20 percent of people who voted for Barack Obama twice and then voted for Trump.

00:38:31.360 Mm hmm.

00:38:32.400 You know, so, you know, if you go there and you and you.

00:38:35.980 And you can win over people that are, you know, that are winnable.

00:38:41.320 Some aren't.

00:38:41.780 You're not going to win with Michael Moore over to your case.

00:38:44.180 But if you focus on actually trying to persuade people rather than, you know, just trying to have your views, you know, echoed back to you.

00:38:53.620 I think that's a good approach.

00:38:55.020 And it's probably a smart approach by by Kanye here.

00:38:57.960 Right.

00:38:58.200 I mean, I think it is.

00:38:59.300 I think to turn your thing around.

00:39:00.560 Is there any chance that this woman gets pardoned without Kanye and Kim Kardashian?

00:39:05.520 I think the chances are very low.

00:39:07.600 If not, I know Jared Kushner is big on the on the criminal justice reform thing.

00:39:10.940 So maybe he would have found this particular case.

00:39:13.480 I doubt it.

00:39:14.180 I doubt it.

00:39:14.840 I doubt it.

00:39:15.040 Because what we've heard from other people who are for criminal reform since then that wouldn't be for letting her go.

00:39:24.740 They weren't for that release of her.

00:39:27.280 Which is weird.

00:39:27.880 So there was they they had some other problem with why she was in jail, how it was portrayed that it was portrayed that she was the first time offender and that she was a mother.

00:39:41.140 And yeah, that necessarily I don't think was 100 percent true.

00:39:44.660 I've definitely heard the case that the idea, you know, when you say a first time offender and she wasn't, you know, doing drugs or selling drugs, she was transporting them.

00:39:52.860 And you think of that and you're like, all right, well, what did you want?

00:39:55.180 She's bringing them across town, you know, but I guess it was a very large amount of drugs that, you know, affected a community very negatively for a long period of time.

00:40:03.320 So, you know, it wasn't quite as simple as it was portrayed by, you know.

00:40:09.020 Right.

00:40:09.300 But we really expect the nuance out of Kim Kardashian or is that, you know.

00:40:12.300 No, no, not at all.

00:40:13.480 But again, does does she get out without them? 0.99

00:40:16.200 No way.

00:40:16.680 I don't think so.

00:40:17.400 No.

00:40:17.580 Right.

00:40:17.980 No way.

00:40:18.400 And we had we had been told when that happened that they had dozens of other cases like this that they were planning on moving on.

00:40:23.960 And we haven't seen any really since.

00:40:26.300 So I don't know if they've just halted that program or I mean, maybe they need, you know, I mean, this is something maybe Trump.

00:40:32.960 I think Trump likes the idea that, you know, a celebrity comes in there and says, hey, you know, here's a sensible thing and please, please do it.

00:40:39.360 And then and then you've got to leave it.

00:40:41.140 Kim Kardashian has what?

00:40:42.680 A hundred million followers on social network.

00:40:45.380 Probably the fact that she's coming out and saying,

00:40:47.580 positive things, Kanye West, the same.

00:40:49.500 That doesn't hurt.

00:40:50.100 It doesn't hurt.

00:40:50.800 And, you know, while, again, there is a Rasmussen poll out there that has Trump's approval rating among African-Americans very high, I think, in the 30s.

00:40:58.680 Most polls have shown an improvement, not quite as drastic as Rasmussen, but in the in the mid-teens, which is high for a Republican president, at least in recent memory, going back at least a couple of presidents.

00:41:11.300 So there's probably a couple of factors.

00:41:12.720 One, black unemployment is at record low levels.

00:41:17.320 And the other factor is probably Kanye West and Kim Kardashian saying good things about him.

00:41:21.900 I mean, really, the black unemployment level really should be a lot more important than what Kim Kardashian says.

00:41:26.940 I don't know that it is.

00:41:28.020 I don't think it is, right.

00:41:28.840 I think, you know, politics are so much emotion and so much feeling and so much perception that the Kanye West, Kim Kardashian thing might actually be more important than the low, the low unemployment rate, which is ridiculous.

00:41:40.940 But I mean, because it really that should be it falls fair here.

00:41:45.240 Just that difference.

00:41:46.560 You know, the African-Americans having such a high unemployment rate for such a long time.

00:41:50.460 The fact that he's the first president who's really overseen a large decrease in that to the lowest levels that we've seen in a long time should be enough to win over 30 or 40 percent.

00:41:59.980 Yeah.

00:42:00.260 You'd think of the population because such a big issue.

00:42:02.720 Again, it's the economy. 1.00

00:42:03.660 Stupid. 1.00

00:42:03.920 We've been told that for decades. 1.00

00:42:05.120 And the fact that that one has really been improved, you know, it really hasn't had the fanfare that you would expect if we weren't all in our tribes and all partisan all the time.

00:42:21.880 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program, and we really want to thank you for listening.

00:42:25.560 Thank you for listening.

00:42:55.560 We've heard wildly because, you know, you're trying to protect your friends' lives.

00:42:59.460 Yeah.

00:42:59.600 And this phenomenon is building upon itself.

00:43:02.580 And I actually think it's worse than what we say.

00:43:05.020 We complain about fake news and politics or something like that.

00:43:07.600 You hear those complaints all the time.

00:43:08.760 I think it's much worse when it comes to health stuff because it's not partisan.

00:43:11.980 And there's not really anyone on the other side pushing back, at least when Democrats and Republicans, you know, go back and forth at each other.

00:43:19.180 There's at least, you know, an argument there so you can at least look at, I don't know, two sides of the issue, no matter how nonsensical they are.

00:43:26.260 With health stuff, it's just scary or nothing for the most part.

00:43:30.660 One person who actually does push back on that is Aaron E. Carroll.

00:43:34.380 He's a professor of pediatrics at Indiana University School of Medicine.

00:43:37.520 He's got TheIncidentalEconomist.com, also has a great YouTube channel called Healthcare Triage, and he joins us now.

00:43:46.580 Aaron, how are you?

00:43:47.800 I'm good.

00:43:48.200 How are you?

00:43:48.740 Really good, really good.

00:43:49.960 Really appreciated your story about the latest scary, scary study about the risks of alcohol.

00:43:59.600 Seemingly everywhere that I saw it reported, it meant that the only safe level of alcohol was none.

00:44:06.600 And if you have any, you're really putting yourself in danger.

00:44:09.940 What does the study actually say?

00:44:12.140 So, I mean, that absolutely was the take-home message, and that's what the news said.

00:44:16.320 So, and I think that if you read the study, I think that there are authors of the study that might actually vocalize that and say it.

00:44:22.620 But that is not what the study actually showed.

00:44:25.780 So, first of all, it's important to understand this was not a new trial.

00:44:28.700 This is not like they did some randomized controlled trial or study where they gave some people alcohol and some people not and saw what happened.

00:44:35.300 This is just what we call meta-analysis, which means that, once again, they sort of gather up all the research that's already out there and just put it in a big pile and analyze it again and again and again to see if they can get anything new out of it.

00:44:48.200 And when you do that, you get statistical significance because you keep adding data, but it doesn't necessarily change the outcome or how bad things are.

00:44:58.220 And so, what they found was that, you know, they can say like, okay, look, we're looking at 23 different harms that might come from alcohol, and we're looking at 28 million people in studies, and we could detect that even at one drink a day, there's a statistically significant risk.

00:45:15.420 And, of course, then they say, well, then anything greater than zero is bad.

00:45:17.780 But the first thing to understand is, one, this is observational data.

00:45:21.340 They can't control for things, and that's important because people who drink tend to sometimes be different than people who don't drink.

00:45:29.120 People who drink often smoke.

00:45:31.160 Smoking is terrible for you.

00:45:32.300 People who drink are often poorer than other people, especially when they drink a lot, and that, of course, has health implications.

00:45:37.620 And people who drink might live in different areas or drive differently or all kinds of things can be related, and they can't control for any of that.

00:45:45.520 But even if we accept all of it, the actual numbers are much less scary than the headlines would have you believe.

00:45:52.440 So even they in the study say that for every 100,000 people who have one drink a day, 918 might experience one of these 23 health effects in a year.

00:46:03.940 So right off the bat, 918 out of 100,000 is not that much.

00:46:07.740 But then they have to acknowledge that of 100,000 people who don't drink, 914 of them are going to have a significant health problem.

00:46:16.220 So that means that of the 100,000 people who might drink, 99,082 of them are unaffected.

00:46:23.520 914 of them are going to have a health problem no matter what they do.

00:46:26.860 Only 4 out of 100,000 people might have a health-related problem that's related to alcohol.

00:46:33.360 And that's a might.

00:46:34.780 That's not a definite they've proved it's causal.

00:46:36.780 It's a maybe.

00:46:37.620 4 out of 100,000 is unbelievably small compared to almost anything else you might do every day.

00:46:44.380 And even at 2 drinks per day, that 914 only goes up to 977.

00:46:48.840 Even at 5 drinks per day, it's still less than 1,300, which means still that 99% of people almost who drink 5 drinks a day,

00:46:57.400 which I think all of us can agree is probably too much, still don't have a health-related effect.

00:47:03.060 So getting people all panicked about this is sort of done by sleight of hand or by arguing that the relative risk or how much your risk might increase is much more important than the absolute risk,

00:47:16.740 which is really what we should care about.

00:47:18.140 Yeah, because I thought looking at the study and the way you explain it, which is great, 4 out of 100,000, that gives you a cost-benefit analysis in a way.

00:47:26.100 Where you could say, I would have honestly guessed that drinking alcohol was worse for my health than that level.

00:47:33.320 It was almost encouraging me to go to the bar, which I know is not what you intended.

00:47:38.620 But it's interesting, and you brought a term to my attention that I think would be a great thing to become a lot more popular, which is the number needed to harm.

00:47:47.900 Can you kind of explain what that means and how it applies here?

00:47:51.220 Well, there's two sides of that coin.

00:47:52.900 So one of the things we always talk about is number needed to treat and number needed to harm, and they're both sides of that.

00:47:57.660 But we can absolutely focus on the harm.

00:47:59.400 So this is what's important is that people don't get, is that harms happen often whether or not you get the actual thing that we're worried about.

00:48:09.500 So that's what I was trying to talk about when I say, look, 918 people who drink a drink a day have a harm, but 914 people who don't drink every day have a harm.

00:48:19.840 So you can't just look at the people who have harm.

00:48:21.760 What we have to care about is the people who would change based upon whether or not they get the alcohol.

00:48:27.620 And so if only 4 out of 100,000 people get the harm because of the alcohol, in other words, not just that they got a harm, but we can absolutely say it's because of the alcohol, then that means that the number needed to harm is 25,000 people, which means that we have to give a drink a day to 25,000 people to get one of them to experience a harm because of the alcohol.

00:48:51.720 And too often when we talk about health stuff, we only focus on the harm and how many people are harmed, but it's how much how many people are harmed because of the alcohol.

00:48:59.360 One out of 25,000 is unbelievably small.

00:49:02.740 Really small.

00:49:03.340 And I feel like this stuff really is happening so often.

00:49:09.240 People just don't understand risk.

00:49:11.420 They take everything in absolutes.

00:49:13.720 And I feel like with social media in particular, it really scares the hell out of people to live a life that they want to live.

00:49:20.880 And I feel like that's a really bad outcome.

00:49:23.240 Do you see that?

00:49:24.780 Absolutely.

00:49:25.580 I mean, absolutely.

00:49:27.720 I think that we're trying to scare people with food, but I think there's another side of that coin is you get people who will swear on the benefits of certain diets and food too when those benefits are almost just as small as the harms I'm talking about here.

00:49:40.980 You know, people will swear by healthy, go gluten-free, or if you avoid, you know, like there's like no evidence for any of that stuff.

00:49:47.600 And even if there is a benefit, it is, again, so small that it's inconsequential in most people's lives.

00:49:53.920 And with the harm, I think what also people seem to forget is that, you know, one, there's sometimes a cost to these – there's an economic cost to these kinds of avoidance or these kinds of seeking out certain kinds of food.

00:50:06.720 But there's also a quality of life lost.

00:50:08.720 Some people like to have a drink every day, and it is perfectly rational to accept, even if it is true, a four in 100,000 chance if the quality of life that they are gaining from eating or having that drink is greater than whatever harm they might be having.

00:50:25.380 That is rational.

00:50:26.260 But too often, I think when it comes to health studies, we think that we're all supposed to live forever and that there's some magic to this, that we should avoid all harms no matter what, even if we're sacrificing happiness or money or quality of life.

00:50:41.900 We have to be able to judge whether or not these kinds of risk avoidances are worth it.

00:50:47.460 Aaron, you brought up gluten a minute ago.

00:50:50.040 That is one of the fads that is so prevalent now.

00:50:55.160 So many people I know and have seen and talked to are on gluten-free diets, and a lot of them aren't even allergic to gluten.

00:51:03.920 In fact, very few people are actually gluten intolerant, and yet everybody is on this bandwagon now.

00:51:11.700 How did that start?

00:51:13.040 Well, so first of all, we should acknowledge some people who have celiac disease, which is an immunological response.

00:51:19.580 That's a different thing.

00:51:20.860 Absolutely avoid gluten, but that's maybe 1% of the population in the United States.

00:51:25.220 If that.

00:51:25.720 People who have a wheat allergy and therefore are avoiding gluten because they're allergic to wheat might benefit from avoiding gluten because of the wheat.

00:51:33.020 That's less than 1% of the population.

00:51:34.940 It's the other 23%, 24% of the population who don't have either of those two things but are avoiding gluten for whatever reason that are doing it again in a way that actually might be providing more harm to their lives than good.

00:51:49.120 So, you know, a lot of them will claim that they're gluten intolerant or there's some vague clinical syndrome that's doing this.

00:51:54.720 But there have been really good randomized controlled trials trying to find these people, trying to test whether, you know, secretly eliminating gluten from their diet makes them better.

00:52:03.840 And those studies show that it doesn't, one, the people who think they're gluten intolerant don't meet the clinical criteria for it.

00:52:10.460 And even when they do, being secretly put on gluten-free diets doesn't make a difference in their health, in which case, why are you doing this?

00:52:16.720 Because gluten-free foods cost more.

00:52:19.100 Gluten-free foods often are less nutritionally good by whatever sort of people would measure.

00:52:24.920 We spent like, in the United States, I think it's like a billion or two on gluten-free dog food or pet food in the last year or two.

00:52:31.460 I mean, this has really just gone too far.

00:52:33.420 Oh, my gosh.

00:52:34.500 It's the panic du jour.

00:52:36.400 It's, you know, what we've decided to focus on and say it's a problem.

00:52:39.580 We've been eating gluten for tens of thousands of years, and the human race is doing just fine.

00:52:46.720 It's not some magic thing that people have all of a sudden figured out.

00:52:51.340 Now, I will say, if by going gluten-free people, you know, eat less processed food, stop eating so much bread, or somehow, you know, change their diets in such a way that they lose weight and they feel better, great.

00:53:02.800 But don't think it's gluten and don't sort of proselytize and tell everyone else that they have to eat like you eat.

00:53:08.440 There's nothing really to fear from gluten in that respect.

00:53:11.000 You know, I just read an article a couple of weeks ago that the headline was,

00:53:16.540 there is no safe amount of bacon you can eat, including one piece, not one a day, one piece of bacon.

00:53:28.320 Wait, were you serious?

00:53:28.600 The effort to silence people did not start this year.

00:53:49.920 They were talking about doing this.

00:53:53.440 They were talking about the process by which you would begin to, I don't know, curb the Internet and the expression of people's freedom of speech on the Internet.

00:54:04.480 That started a while ago.

00:54:06.640 Yeah, this is pretty interesting.

00:54:08.380 Listen to this clip.

00:54:09.320 It's from Barack Obama several years ago.

00:54:12.340 I want to say it's 2011, but it does not say it in this article.

00:54:14.960 I looked it up earlier, and we've been kind of sitting on this for a few days from when, you know, sort of the Alex Jones thing was really going crazy.

00:54:23.320 Again, put Alex Jones back.

00:54:25.540 Put him back where he was.

00:54:26.940 Thank you. 0.64

00:54:27.440 You know, is he crazy? 0.73

00:54:28.960 Yes. 1.00

00:54:30.200 Does he like trans porn? 1.00

00:54:31.960 Yes. 1.00

00:54:32.620 It looks like he does.

00:54:33.260 It does seem like he likes it.

00:54:33.980 It does seem like he does.

00:54:35.240 He's a fan.

00:54:36.360 Somewhat.

00:54:36.840 But to Jeffy, that makes him even more appealing.

00:54:43.460 Am I right?

00:54:44.500 So, but we can decide for ourselves if the guy is telling the truth, if he's making stuff up out of whole cloth.

00:54:51.380 Give us a little credit.

00:54:52.600 Put him back on.

00:54:53.480 Yeah.

00:54:53.820 Stop silencing people. 1.00

00:54:55.100 Yeah, just let him speak and let him make an idiot of himself in front of everyone. 1.00

00:54:58.300 I mean, that's one of the best things about our society is that we have free speech enough so that you can make a moron out of yourself in front of people. 1.00

00:55:04.640 Right. 0.98

00:55:04.720 But there's nothing wrong with that, and I think we need to get over it.

00:55:07.720 The idea that you're going to be able to control things like that is, I think.

00:55:11.680 But they desperately want to.

00:55:13.140 They're showing us that right now.

00:55:14.560 They want to.

00:55:15.540 And we've been seeing that, I think, for a long time.

00:55:17.660 So, listen to this.

00:55:18.800 I mean, I think you can look at this and say, let me put it by you guys.

00:55:22.340 Is this innocuous?

00:55:23.700 Is this just Barack Obama saying, hey, we've got to get people to be more accurate?

00:55:28.400 Or is this.

00:55:28.940 Or is this foreshadowing?

00:55:29.920 It's kind of a foreshadowing of what we've seen recently with these big companies kind of cracking down on speech that they don't like.

00:55:38.760 Here it is, Barack Obama talking about truth on the Internet.

00:55:42.760 Look, this takes us a little bit far afield.

00:55:48.760 But I do think that it's relevant to the scientific community.

00:55:53.240 It's relevant to our democracy, citizenship.

00:55:55.460 We don't have a democracy.

00:55:58.600 We're going to have to rebuild within this wild, wild west of information flow some sort of curating function that people agree to.

00:56:08.680 Oh.

00:56:09.740 What people?

00:56:10.980 Huh.

00:56:11.300 I use the analogy in politics.

00:56:12.920 It used to be there were three television stations and Walter Cronkite's on there.

00:56:17.580 And not everybody agreed.

00:56:20.980 And there were always outliers who thought that it was all propaganda and we didn't really land on the moon and Elvis is still alive and so forth.

00:56:29.300 But generally that was in the papers that you bought at the supermarket, right, as you were checking out.

00:56:36.740 And generally people trusted a basic body of information.

00:56:44.540 It wasn't always as democratic as it should have been.

00:56:47.440 And Zoe is exactly right that, for example, on something like climate change, we've actually been doing some interesting initiatives where we're essentially deputizing citizens with handheld technologies to start recording information that then gets pooled.

00:57:03.480 They're becoming scientists without getting the PhD and we can do that in a lot of other fields as well.

00:57:08.400 But there has to be, I think, some sort of way in which we can sort through information that passes some basic...

00:57:19.440 Oh, it has to pass a basic truthiness test.

00:57:24.100 Truthiness test.

00:57:25.980 Truthiness.

00:57:26.400 Truthiness.

00:57:27.120 And those that we have to discard because they just don't have any basis in anything that's actually happening in the world.

00:57:35.380 And that's hard to do?

00:57:36.420 But I think it's going to be necessary.

00:57:40.440 It's going to be possible.

00:57:41.640 I think the answer is obviously not censorship, but it's creating places where people can say this is reliable.

00:57:53.280 And I'm still able to argue about, safely about facts and what we should do about it while still not just making stuff up.

00:58:06.420 Huh.

00:58:07.240 And who is it that is the arbiter of truth then?

00:58:11.600 Well, the truthiness lord.

00:58:13.540 Okay.

00:58:14.220 Have we appointed a truthiness czar yet?

00:58:17.180 It's possible.

00:58:18.200 Coming soon to a country near you.

00:58:19.840 That's absolutely foreshadowing what's going on right now.

00:58:24.420 Took them a while to get to it, but they're doing it now.

00:58:26.800 Because it is.

00:58:27.540 Again, it's not coming through the government, as he kind of points out there.

00:58:30.260 He's not talking about government censorship.

00:58:32.600 Right.

00:58:33.100 But the censorship is sort of coming, you know, at other levels from large companies that many people from the administration are on the boards of.

00:58:40.960 And they've picked people to go out and record and find truthiness.

00:58:46.380 That's a weird part of that, too.

00:58:47.180 We're deputizing citizens to go record things on climate change.

00:58:50.760 A little chilling.

00:58:51.340 Yeah.

00:58:52.180 And look, I think you can look at that and say, he's correct that this problem exists.

00:58:56.480 Right.

00:58:56.660 There is a problem with people.

00:58:58.480 We just talked about it with health information, where that stuff gets completely, you know, massacred when it goes through the media cycle.

00:59:07.200 You know, it's not even close to what this study actually says.

00:59:10.000 And we've seen so many examples of that.

00:59:13.080 That's up to us to figure out.

00:59:14.600 Yeah.

00:59:15.120 I mean, that's kind of up to us.

00:59:16.020 I'm really hesitant to get.

00:59:17.440 Me, too.

00:59:17.940 To get, I don't know, the government involved in that stuff, you know, and I think our founders were, too.

00:59:23.120 They really, like, kind of made a big deal about government staying out of speech matters.

00:59:27.900 Yeah.

00:59:28.400 I mean, that was the big deal, right, when they, when the printing press, you know, we had the printing press and people were just printing whatever the heck they wanted to print.

00:59:35.040 I mean, that was the first set of lies, right?

00:59:37.340 I mean, they could print, you just print whatever you want.

00:59:39.340 Yeah.

00:59:39.740 Glenna was.

00:59:40.240 It's okay.

00:59:40.980 There's one, I can't remember which one it is.

00:59:42.580 There's some founding father that wrote about the freedom of speech and how far it goes, and he defended it to the point that the press could print things that they maliciously know are false and are using only to hurt the person, and it's still protected by the person.

01:00:00.500 That's how far they wanted it to go.

01:00:02.160 Good.

01:00:02.680 Wow.

01:00:02.900 And, you know, so the government has, to me, zero role when it comes to free speech, but, you know.

01:00:11.060 They don't believe that.

01:00:11.840 Yeah, they don't, and it's interesting because what you have is a bunch of people, and this, you know, probably goes both ways, but, you know, certainly does on the left, where you have people who, if they had their druthers, would use the government to suppress certain types of speech, and then they leave the government and they go serve on the board of Google, right?

01:00:31.600 And, you know, the thing Trump tweeted the other day about Google censoring him does not seem to be accurate, but still, there is, certainly with, you know, the Alex Joneses of the world, you see real censorship of somebody on these platforms, and it's a big part of his business.

01:00:47.880 I want his business to fail, but for other reasons.

01:00:50.220 I don't want it to be because other businesses have decided to target the guy.

01:00:53.260 And since we call it something else, since it's not, we're not calling it censorship, we're just, well, it's the algorithm change.

01:01:00.420 Sorry.

01:01:01.700 Sorry.

01:01:02.220 And we've given these private businesses a pass on squelching freedom of speech because they're private businesses.

01:01:11.700 It's not being done by the government.

01:01:13.300 However, right or wrong, they made an agreement with the government that they will not be held liable for certain things that happen on their platform.

01:01:23.460 Like, if there's terrorist threats on Facebook or Twitter, you're not going to go to Facebook and Twitter and charge them with a terrorist threat.

01:01:31.920 But in order to have that protection, they have to remain impartial.

01:01:38.460 They can't be biased.

01:01:39.680 They can't take a side and be this political arm.

01:01:44.420 And yet they have.

01:01:45.780 So they've, they're kind of violating that sort of arrangement with, with the government protections.

01:01:54.240 So you either take away the government protection and say, okay, you're going to be held liable because you're not playing by the rules that were set up for this.

01:02:01.580 Yeah.

01:02:02.080 And I think, you know, or you stop taking people off who you disagree with.

01:02:06.400 And this is why they've been careful when they've taken Alex Jones off to talk about his harassing behavior, to talk about other things he's done, not about his political views, which currently target largely, well, really anybody but Trump, right?

01:02:21.800 I mean, he still targets Republicans all the time.

01:02:24.640 Yeah.

01:02:25.000 The guy's not a conservative.

01:02:26.420 No, of course not.

01:02:26.980 I mean, if you go back to the idea, you know, back in, you know, 2003 and four, and when this guy was becoming well-known as the father of the 9-11 conspiracy theory, you know, you remember that, you know, he started that conspiracy theory against George W. Bush.

01:02:42.620 And he still, to this day, you know, we were just talking about him the other day when he was trying to give a eulogy to John McCain.

01:02:48.040 And it was like, I'm going to take the high road here. 0.98

01:02:50.120 But, you know, McCain was a traitor. 0.99

01:02:52.100 With the Bushes. 0.96

01:02:53.420 I should have been court-martialed.

01:02:55.200 But, you know, at some level, I guess he was courageous or, you know, I guess you could put a quote hero tag on him or whatever.

01:03:01.780 But, yeah, he should have gone to prison.

01:03:02.840 All right.

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The Glenn Beck Program - August 30, 2018

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