Pat and Stu talk about Joe Biden's cognitive test and how it went. They also talk about living with whiteness and why it's a terrible thing to be a white person in the 21st century. Plus, the latest on college football and climate change.
00:18:25.040I don't understand why people can't understand this.
00:18:29.720I'm fascinated by this as we go through the past few weeks in that, like, more and more, the idea of winning a logical argument or coming up with evidence that proves a point no longer matters.
00:18:48.240None of this makes any dent in the way this stuff gets covered.
00:18:52.800Like, Portland is a great argument there.
00:18:56.680Every night, there are dozens of videos of these same people lighting buildings on fire, hitting police officers in the head with rocks and bottles and shooting fireworks at them and all of these things.
00:19:19.000One of the portions of this report from COIN in Portland was, because they were on the scene as some of the rioting was happening, and the police were radioing back to the precinct that they were under heavy rock attack.
00:19:34.820And so, I mean, they're just under this constant barrage, and this is happening pretty much every night.
00:19:39.600But, yes, like you said, all we're focused on are the federal troops there that need to go, because that's the real problem.
00:19:47.500And it seems to make no difference, no matter how much evidence you have, no matter how many times you say the same thing, no matter how many times it's outlined, no matter how many videos you show, they just say, well, no, it's just...
00:20:03.120It's the police that are the ones that are brutal.
00:20:06.480Again, I'm not saying that the police have done everything perfectly through this.
00:20:10.700There have been some pieces of evidence that have shown police acting inappropriately, I think, at times.
00:20:17.220And what happens when you show us those videos is that we say, yeah, that's not the right thing, and that needs to be corrected.
00:20:23.500If that person committed a crime, that person should be charged.
00:20:27.000When we show you 50 times the amount of material that shows the other side doing things like that and worse, you just act like it doesn't happen.
00:20:35.480It's like as if I have CGI at my house and I'm making these things up every night.
00:22:26.400And they, that battle was fought for a long time.
00:22:28.680And I don't know if it's just so obvious now that they lost that battle where they kept saying it was, things were racist and everyone knew they weren't.
00:22:35.600So what they did was just change the definition of the word racist.
00:22:39.420Now, if you're just, if you're white, you're automatically racist and there's nothing you can do about it.
00:22:43.620You're never going to be able to solve that.
00:22:45.040So you're automatically racist for life.
00:22:47.320It's like, well, I guess if you're, the definition of the word racist is I have white skin.
00:22:52.200I mean, I don't technically have white skin, but I guess I have peach or whatever it is.
00:22:58.980Well, then they automatically, when they argue it, if that's the definition of the word.
00:23:02.440And it's like, well, how about these words mean things?
00:23:06.140Like when I say you're a boy and you're a girl, those words mean something.
00:23:12.440And when you want to come in and say later on, well, actually, as Ellen so helpfully helped us define, it's just a feeling you have in your head.
00:25:06.680And they say to him, not only do they say, look, we told him, you know, because they're like, we had a meeting and we, how do we move forward?
00:25:13.240And we told him he just can't use that word.
00:25:15.560That's not appropriate for him to use.
00:25:17.780And then we also told him he needs to stop saying, I don't see color because he does see color.
00:25:22.140It's like, this is a full out frontal assault on Martin Luther King.
00:25:29.020I don't see color is now racist, guys.
00:25:32.140They've changed all of these definitions.
00:25:54.600It doesn't, there is no culture associated with it.
00:25:57.720There is no white culture and black culture.
00:26:00.440Look at the black culture of black people in the United States and compare it to black people in Africa and tell me they have the same culture.
00:28:15.320For a country that is the most affluent and influential, that is a catastrophe.
00:28:21.340My question is, knowing what you now know, what would you do differently before the next pandemic or during it?
00:28:28.620Well, I think there's two parts of that question, sir.
00:28:33.340One is, you know, how we, how we might explain how this happened and what I would do different.
00:28:38.720And then what you would do different for the next pandemic.
00:28:41.380I think preparedness, we put together a pandemic preparedness plan as we were trying to respond to the threat of the pre-pandemic bird flu back in 2005.
00:28:52.540And again, it was a plan that was a reasonable plan.
00:28:56.420And in fact, when it was evaluated independently by Johns Hopkins, it stated that it was our preparedness for a pandemic was essentially number one in the world.
00:29:08.640But what happened when the rubber hit the road on this and we did get hit, we had the kind of response that was not as well suited to what the dynamics of this outbreak is.
00:29:20.460And what happened is that we had a bit of a disparate response.
00:29:24.720We live in a very big country and we often leave the decisions about the implementation of things at the local level.
00:29:34.000And what we've seen is a great disparity in how individual states, cities, et cetera, responded.
00:29:41.080The critical issue that I think we need to look at how we can get that down is that when you look at the curves and it relates to Sanjay's graph, that when we went up and then started to come down, everybody got hit badly.
00:29:58.780Europe, particularly Italy, France and Spain.
00:30:01.900When they went up and they responded, they came all the way down to a baseline so that when they started to reopen their countries in a very careful way, they had to deal with little blips that could easily be controlled.
00:30:20.020When you looked at our curve, it's telling.
00:30:50.680Other parts of the country held it so they didn't even go up.
00:30:54.800But there were so many different players, as it were, in the country that the totality of the country, that some net of that was a flat line that was very high.
00:31:07.120And then when we decided, with the guidelines of how we can open America again, for reasons that we obviously couldn't stay shut down forever, was having terrible economic consequences, terrible consequences on employment, we decided we would try to take steps to open.
00:31:25.900And when we did, we didn't do it uniformly.
00:31:29.200Some states did not pay attention to the benchmarks or the checkpoints.
00:31:37.080Others did it fine, but the citizenry within a state or within a city actually did an all-or-none phenomenon.
00:31:46.680They said, we're locked down, so now we're just going to let it fly.
00:31:50.780Now, you could say, no, that didn't happen.
00:31:52.720But the numbers tell you what happened.
00:31:57.680What he's saying here in a really lengthy explanation is we have a 10th Amendment to the Constitution, which gives power to the states to make their own decisions.
00:32:07.920If it weren't for that pesky Constitution, we could control people a lot better.
00:32:13.780Wouldn't that be great if we could set fire to that Constitution?
00:32:18.260So there's that, and there's another glaring omission in his explanation here of why we got hit harder than others.
00:32:26.860And it seems like there was a little situation where thousands of people were gathering together every day in the streets, yelling and screaming and spinning and setting things on fire and robbing Nike stores.
00:32:42.600The protest had nothing to do with this?