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00:00:00.000 it's pat and stew in for glenn here he is back next week uh apparently still works at this

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00:00:36.900 can listen to it anytime so if you happen to be here for the podcast uh today we uh did a bunch of

00:00:42.120 stuff the cnn town hall kind of a ratings flop unfortunately for them fortunately for us

00:00:48.160 because maybe there won't be another one but unfortunately for them a brand new set a plethora

00:00:53.700 of joe biden screw-ups today because i mean his were it was not a good day for joe no joe's having

00:01:00.620 a hard time he is it's not it's not been pretty so far but he's he's trying his best and he's still

00:01:06.300 way ahead so far at least we talk about the number one language in america which is it uh i thought it

00:01:12.980 should maybe should be english but apparently that's controversial it's oh it is now you've given it away

00:01:17.680 will sugar give you cancer uh well of course it will uh and uh walmart um people trying to now

00:01:25.040 like do pranks and stunts at walmart to make points for and against guns oh man really bad idea

00:01:31.220 in both cases but we'll give you the details on that as well and the latest about the dayton

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00:01:46.240 pat and stew for glenn he's back monday man the time's gone by fast trip 888-727-BECK

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00:02:30.640 lycos and metacrawler a lot of people say well lycos ask jeeves what are those it's amazing how

00:02:35.960 that stuff seems i mean that's like ancient history isn't it i know i love throwing in the

00:02:40.940 friendster jokes it's my favorite one because if you don't know it was a social network before

00:02:45.140 facebook and really i can before i think my space it was around there it was like the one that

00:02:50.080 everyone said was going to make a big run but never really caught on right uh and we're like it's like

00:02:55.020 12 generations ago now like like my references are getting really is you get to a point where you're

00:03:00.140 we always used to make fun of you because all of your impersonations are dead uh they're either

00:03:05.080 they're either dead or long retired and there's no there's no active person you impersonate

00:03:11.320 all the people have passed away their parents or their children barely remember them it's a weird

00:03:17.180 thing as they're current i can't do their voice soon as they die so weird i can get there now

00:03:22.520 so yeah i know it's a it's a it's a long road pat it's a long road yes anyway it's i think

00:03:31.480 eventually we're gonna get to that point where people feel the same way about cnn you're gonna

00:03:34.860 make a cnn joke and people are like what what is what is cnn what is that if they keep going as they

00:03:40.600 currently are that will happen this is pretty bad you know they did this big gun town hall thing

00:03:45.620 over uh the last couple of days which i'm sure they thought was going to be massive well the last one

00:03:50.180 was right i mean the last one was a big deal at least i don't know how i don't remember but i think

00:03:55.480 it did pretty well in the ratings that night uh actually let's see uh yeah so jake tapper did the

00:04:02.240 first one and it did a little bit better so last night they had uh or they did america under assault

00:04:09.260 the gun crisis uh aired at 9 p.m drew in 1.2 million total viewers on average hannity um who interviewed

00:04:18.560 a democratic candidate in last place bill de blasio oh wow 3.1 million and rachel maddow did

00:04:27.360 2.3 million so they only lost jeez they came in third place and came in half of second place

00:04:34.240 is how many people actually watched uh jake tapper's town hall was uh had 58 percent more

00:04:40.140 viewers than chris cuomo's so this did not work very well this time no look it's a it's the same

00:04:46.540 trick they tried last time right you come out and you try to take advantage of a tragedy and

00:04:51.760 uh you try to you know ramp up ratings and that's not a good idea i don't think people think of that as

00:04:57.720 a as in bounds you know it feels really icky to try to take advantage of something like that

00:05:05.140 it may be the first time you do it people are like all right look they're trying to get solutions

00:05:08.540 they're trying you know when you hear the voices of some of these people in the community i mean you

00:05:11.520 can make those arguments you trot it out again after how bad of it went last time when you got

00:05:16.760 to a point where the people that you brought in as guests completely stacked the deck against dana who 0.94

00:05:22.080 was there to be a spokesperson for the nra yeah and and they they just tried to bludgeon her the 0.99

00:05:27.920 whole time and and in some ways literally i mean like she was there was a legitimate security threat

00:05:32.320 for her right uh and you know they luckily she was able to get out of there but they did not treat

00:05:38.540 it well they they did not handle it well the biggest mistake they made as far as the actual

00:05:43.040 program went was having the large loud cheering crowd because that's not look if you're if you're

00:05:49.260 trying to make an argument that you're coming up with real solutions we care about this and we care

00:05:52.980 about the community you know you don't turn it into a wwe event yeah and that's what they did last

00:05:58.040 time i don't know if they did that this time i don't remember seeing a crowd it could be that they

00:06:01.520 invited a crowd but then they heard it was chris cuomo so they didn't come that's a very possible

00:06:06.020 thing here but it did not do well finished third place for their big uh gun town hall and you know

00:06:12.780 at some point you got to pull the plug on the chris cuomo experiment don't you i think at some point

00:06:17.580 you just have to realize i think so yes yes he has a famous name in the state you're in okay that's

00:06:22.600 about what you have with chris i think it's about time to just say you know just turn it off you know

00:06:26.640 sometimes you try things and they just don't work yeah you know you saw a guy he said hey i remember

00:06:32.340 that guy used to be governor and now his brothers or his dad used to be governor now his brother's

00:06:36.160 governor maybe we should put him on tv and it seems like a good idea at the time and then it falls

00:06:40.700 apart and you can try to you know put it back together over and over and over again but at some point

00:06:46.200 you just have to say look this is not working and i think we're there with chris cuomo are we not

00:06:50.700 oh yes we were there date i think two for me but if it takes cnn a little while to catch up okay but

00:06:58.620 they should be caught up by now all right much more coming up 60 seconds this is the glenn beck

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00:07:06.700 patent stew for glenn on the glenn beck program 888-727-BECK big headline about

00:07:20.540 uh the nra warning president bush or president trump um and warning him that his supporters just

00:07:27.720 aren't going to be supportive of gun control i i really believe that's true i think even the hardest

00:07:34.980 core of trump supporters would oppose uh getting into gun control legislation or gun control executive

00:07:43.800 orders and he's seemingly according to these stories been asking around with his aides

00:07:49.360 people close to him and he's also said it publicly that he wants to go after it yeah you know he

00:07:55.520 hasn't been specific so what does that mean you know he wants to have uh expanded background checks

00:08:00.880 and uh i mean um red flag laws and he's he's spoken some you know some support for those ideas but

00:08:09.600 you know in passing and walking up to a plane who knows what this actually means

00:08:13.940 that being said when you go after a core belief of your of your uh voting block

00:08:22.600 you risk things even when you are incredibly popular i mean you know george w bush came out

00:08:29.440 of that his re-election beat john carrey was incredibly popular and this was 0506 when he did

00:08:34.840 the comprehensive immigration reform thing and that's a one of the first things he did was to use some of

00:08:39.780 his political capital to go after immigration reform and that was what essentially destroyed

00:08:45.980 his presidency really hurt him you know there were multiple things i'll also give you harriet myers as

00:08:50.400 a supreme court nominee which the the base rejected and uh in addition to that his handling of katrina

00:08:57.940 really wiped out a lot of his you know he really was known as sort of the competent in crisis sort of

00:09:04.180 president because of everything that happened with 9-11 the war though started turning the wrong way

00:09:09.520 and then katrina happened and you know while the reporting on a lot of that was really bad and a

00:09:14.520 lot of that wasn't him you know screwing those things up it still didn't help at all but really

00:09:19.620 it was it was never that it was never a big deal people were like oh well his you know people lost

00:09:24.940 faith in him because of katrina well some did right but it was never a case of i don't think a lot of

00:09:30.900 conservatives lost faith in him because of katrina they knew that wasn't his fault the difference in

00:09:35.020 his presidency between term uh one and term two was not that the people in general lost faith in bush

00:09:42.280 it was that his his actual the conservatives did yeah because of things like immigration reform they

00:09:47.920 were like look i mean he's not even you know we'll walk through him with a lot of the stuff if he makes

00:09:52.640 a mistake we're okay but like this is violating he's trying to do something against us yes you know

00:09:57.740 it's not that he screwed up he's trying to do something that we don't like he's coming after

00:10:02.020 our core values and conservatives were making a lot of noise about it how much they opposed it and

00:10:08.040 we don't want you to do this well he tried to do it anyway and that did hurt him and they stopped it

00:10:12.740 and then later yes uh conservatives did stop it later he also not only did he still want the

00:10:19.520 comprehensive immigration reform but then he went after the border patrol agents ramos and campeon

00:10:25.180 and would not budge on that at all until the day he left office uh those guys languished in jail for a 0.90

00:10:34.140 couple of years because you know they shot a uh drug dealer in the butt who by the way they thought

00:10:40.660 had a gun and was aiming it at them and so that really hurt him too and when he cited that he further 0.61

00:10:47.560 sided with mexico uh as mexico tried to stop the execution of that heinous illegal immigrant from 0.91

00:10:57.200 1993 who raped and murdered uh two 15 year old girls in houston uh and he'd been on death row for

00:11:06.260 quite some time and bush sided with mexico against texas for that yeah right and those were all huge

00:11:13.680 issues i remember for the audience at the time turned his base and that was a violation of

00:11:19.360 something they believed was you know a core value rule of law on the border and it was something that

00:11:26.780 really you know i think really was the thing that turned his presidency from what was beforehand

00:11:33.060 largely on partisan lines you know you certainly after 9-11 he was much more popular than that but

00:11:39.560 you know it had come down to a point where republicans basically liked bush and democrats basically didn't

00:11:43.480 and after that that republican support eroded and the reason we bring this up is because when you

00:11:50.220 know trump risks a lot violating a core belief of his own audience yeah and this is definitely one of

00:11:56.360 those yeah i mean it's risky man core for a lot of people you know if he wants to win this election

00:12:01.360 you know i was talking to david harris jr who's a you know he's on news and white matters uh and he's a

00:12:06.520 big social media personality very pro-trump and um we were talking about this and he said you know look

00:12:12.600 i my audience is pissed off about this david's audience is very pro-trump i mean he's a very

00:12:18.960 pro-trump guy loves him he's been to the white house a bunch of times like he is you know in in

00:12:22.980 that pocket completely you know he is the you know uh he's a loyal guy he believes his trump is doing a

00:12:28.940 great job and he said his audience is doing the same thing there they are they are really scared

00:12:34.920 about this they do not want him to do this and he made the point and this point is true that look

00:12:40.680 right now they're going to be mad about this but when it comes down to it what are you going to

00:12:44.280 vote for elizabeth warren what are you going to do i mean like you're going to have a choice there

00:12:48.060 and that's a good point yeah when it comes down to it he's still going to be a better choice than

00:12:52.640 elizabeth warren or bernie sanders the issue though is you lose passion enthusiasm you know some

00:12:57.940 people you know look are they all going to turn out are they going to donate are they going to

00:13:01.260 campaign are they going to be telling every one of their friends how great trump is or are they

00:13:05.320 going to be like well i mean look he's better and i you know he pisses me off on this issue but i'll

00:13:09.820 pull the i'll pull the lever for him without all of that extra stuff you know one of the big stories

00:13:14.700 i think of trump's presidency it has been passion you know you have a really passionate base that's

00:13:20.000 going to go out there they're going to fight for this guy no matter what and if you start eroding that

00:13:25.180 if you start to just on the edges and remain you know you can't afford to lose a lot of votes

00:13:30.160 this is this is an election remember obviously not that this matters electorally but he didn't

00:13:35.160 you know he lost the popular vote this is a so and i don't say that to say that like oh he lost i say

00:13:40.140 that to say it was close it was a lot closer than memory might serve you if you look at the electoral

00:13:45.280 college yeah i mean basically it was about 70 000 votes that were the difference in that election

00:13:49.520 that's not a lot no it's not and you know it's so you you have to be careful and you start going

00:13:54.960 after second amendment rights and that that might just be enough to take away at the fringe and give 0.99

00:14:00.160 us some socialist to come in here and be president of the united states and nobody wants that at least 0.87

00:14:06.500 i don't uh yeah me neither and we've i think we've mentioned that a couple of times you don't want a

00:14:12.020 socialist as a president yeah i think i have it's come up triple eight seven two seven beck more in a

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00:14:52.220 to it anytime you want on podcast wherever you get those podcasts like itunes or soundcloud myspace

00:14:58.280 there's a little bit too much urgency in your show you're really covering the news of the day i

00:15:02.160 like to listen to podcasts from several months ago are those available yes okay yes you can listen

00:15:08.140 to those as well i like to just know what's going on what was the news of the day in in april

00:15:11.700 yeah we have that and you have that that's available i can get that anytime anytime i just

00:15:16.020 don't want to pay as much as i need to probably it's probably too expensive how does zero dollars

00:15:20.700 sound wow yeah very good yeah very good it's an incredible bargain it's a good value yeah normally

00:15:25.960 that sells for 99.95.99 really yeah wow but but now uh it's free to it's 100 off wow yeah well i mean

00:15:35.260 you know limited time only of course you i think you might want to raise those prices because i think

00:15:39.320 you're about to be boycotted really i do i do i've been hearing a lot about this and my understanding

00:15:45.680 is if you're a republican if you're a conservative you need to be boycotted if you voted for donald 0.96

00:15:50.500 trump especially well because you're a white nationalist right right automatically a racist

00:15:55.040 and a white nationalist yes voted for trump that is what msnbc is letting you know and i mean they're 0.60

00:16:01.180 just one example but this is a msnbc analyst rick stangle talking about trump supporters and and

00:16:07.040 whether you should boycott them or not okay people boycotted apartheid products remember

00:16:13.220 years ago you wouldn't buy stock or a company or product from any company that supported apartheid

00:16:18.420 south africa why isn't there not that same thing with with with people who support donald trump and

00:16:22.700 their products and their companies and there has been with equinox this past week great question

00:16:27.200 why isn't there why isn't the same thing pat can you think of let me and i'm asking this honestly

00:16:34.680 you're a smart guy you put a lot of thoughts in the thing can you think of one difference between

00:16:40.160 2019 america and apartheid south africa is there any no any distinction no you would make between those

00:16:48.180 because i there's a i can think of one minor can you because i'm hard-pressed i can't want me to give

00:16:53.420 it to you all right northern hemisphere southern hemisphere okay that's that's the only thing i

00:16:57.040 could come up i should have found that one you know i mean it's so close yeah it's basically the

00:17:01.960 same policies as you know black people are not allowed to be employed here in the united states 0.90

00:17:07.220 they're all separate now some people would note that the black unemployment rate is as low as it's

00:17:12.500 ever been in history some people would would note that huh and say maybe that's not the same situation

00:17:19.160 as apartheid maybe maybe it's a little different yeah maybe maybe stealing the land and raising the 0.95

00:17:26.140 people and i mean the destruction that went on in apartheid south africa a tad different isn't that

00:17:33.840 the same guy who did the nazi thing with him too didn't he is that the same is it the same guy i

00:17:39.880 don't know i think it is i do remember that what is this guy's name rick stengel wow maybe it's a

00:17:45.000 different guy yeah that guy was was it figliusi or something oh yeah yeah that was a different guy

00:17:49.940 that was you're talking about the hh guy yes he said because donald trump was putting the flag back

00:17:54.980 up on august 8th that meant he thought it had heil hitler significance yes because 88 is h h the h h is

00:18:02.460 the eighth letter of the alphabet so h h equals heil hitler said this on national television by the way

00:18:07.660 this this is a point a serious point made on national television just like this one just like this one

00:18:11.380 apartheid uh and it's it's amazing wow what i find most amazing about it though is not that there's

00:18:17.320 people who are a little bit unhinged when it comes to donald trump we know that it's not people who are

00:18:21.660 unhinged coming against any republican president we know that happened i mean they used to call bush a

00:18:25.420 terrorist every day on television i mean this is not new what i'm fascinated about though is just the

00:18:29.660 the lack of ability to learn to learn a very important lesson arguably hillary clinton is not 1.00

00:18:38.840 president of the united states because she made a statement uh about the donald trump supporters

00:18:44.700 being a basket of deplorables you of course remember this because it was the one of the

00:18:49.800 biggest things in the entire campaign and everyone went around and said we're the deplorables and

00:18:53.400 and it became a rallying cry and remember this election turned on three states and about 70 000 votes

00:19:00.780 so this is not something that needed to be a you know to take over the entire election

00:19:04.760 it was a very close election and you know i think you could make a sensible argument that

00:19:12.380 that moment for hillary cost her the election it's you can't exactly tie it scientifically of course 0.99

00:19:19.520 you're never going to be able to pull it up but i mean 70 000 votes was not a lot to to move on a

00:19:24.520 statement that well publicized now to go back to 2016 for a second you can make a really legitimate

00:19:31.140 case that what hillary clinton said was true and actually you can make a case that what she said

00:19:37.760 about deplorables is true about every candidate that has ever run a race in every single instance

00:19:44.100 every candidate has followers who are you would put in the category of i'm proud to have those followers

00:19:49.520 and you'd put some in the category of i mean i'm glad they're voting for me but i really don't want

00:19:53.860 to be associated with them right and all all hillary clinton was doing was saying look there is a

00:20:00.380 a basket of deplorables these awful people that actually are racist and all these things and we

00:20:05.680 don't we're not i'm never going to get them but there are a lot of other people in the republican

00:20:09.240 party who we can get to vote for me right there there are a lot of those people who are are open to

00:20:15.340 voting for us because they don't like the way donald trump acts or they just are moderates or whatever

00:20:20.040 it is like the way she stated it was really bad and i think it may very well have cost her her the

00:20:25.060 election however the actual context of that statement while she exaggerated it is largely

00:20:30.980 true and it's largely true with every single candidate what have they done to learn from

00:20:35.160 that moment though they now are saying there is no exception everyone who votes for donald trump

00:20:40.860 who is a republican is a racist everyone should be boycotted everyone should be uh vilified instead 0.91

00:20:46.680 of saying a slice of them are bad which is what hillary said they're now saying all of them are bad

00:20:51.840 they have just tripled and quadrupled down on the strategy that lost them the last election and they

00:20:56.920 continue to do it day after day after day i i if if you were if there was a a book a tell-all that

00:21:03.640 came out after this election and we found out that democrats were doing everything they could do

00:21:08.080 to lose by as much as possible i would believe that it was actually accurate i i it's it's fascinating

00:21:14.660 the way they are handling this they're going as socialist as they can they're vilifying every voter

00:21:19.660 that could possibly come into their into their uh into their pocket they are just they are trying

00:21:25.200 to lose this and they may very well do it let's hope so this is the glenn beck program

00:21:32.840 triple eight seven 27 beck is the phone number pat and stew in for glenn glenn is back on monday

00:21:40.860 by the way uh so get excited uh there is a a story that kind of would tie into what we were just

00:21:48.340 talking about about the deplorables but it is being i think completely completely misrepresented

00:21:54.560 uh to the american people and largely by conservative audiences and conservative media right now

00:22:00.360 there's a new movie coming out called the hunt now if you saw if you watch the democratic debates

00:22:05.340 they ran a bunch of ads in the democratic debates for this movie the hunt and i when i saw them i was

00:22:11.260 like oh i'm in i can't wait to see this i know i like these types of movies it is a movie about

00:22:17.680 essentially people kind of wake up in a field and realize they're being hunted by some other people

00:22:24.140 and it's you know the way they kind of um explain it is they it comes off the the previews are are

00:22:30.740 great they're just like uh it looks like you need to get away to a upscale experience where it's like

00:22:36.940 a hunting lodge it's like a commercial for a hunting lodge and then you realize about halfway through

00:22:40.720 that they're hunting actual people um you know so it's a horror movie and pretty intense

00:22:45.540 it comes from blumhouse uh which is they've made a lot of the big horror movies over the past you

00:22:50.440 know five to ten years um and they usually make a lot of money they make a lot of money cost very

00:22:55.500 little and then make a lot yeah and they've had some you know some of their movies have been up for

00:22:59.940 best picture uh they've i mean they've had some you know real success and they've told great stories

00:23:05.340 the issue here though is that people and you don't get this from the previews but the reporting about

00:23:12.800 the movie they are saying that essentially what happens is the people in the field being hunted

00:23:19.300 are uh have were called in the movie deplorables and they appear to be essentially red staters

00:23:26.720 of some sort i don't know that it's specific to trump but it's some sort of like

00:23:30.900 you know red staters and they're being hunted by like liberals and this is apparently like 0.87

00:23:38.960 apparently to somebody i don't know who but apparently to somebody this is offensive on the

00:23:45.720 conservative side and because they're saying well these people are being hunted they're going and

00:23:49.800 they're this is a bad message to send now there's been some controversy about the um movie because

00:23:55.860 in the wake of you know the shootings and all of this sometimes these things get rescheduled some

00:24:00.480 places have pulled ads for the movie because you know it's obviously a violent storyline um and

00:24:05.300 this happens it's happened a million times in the past i mean i can remember arlington road you

00:24:09.120 remember that movie arlington road had tim robbins in it um it was in the mid 90s was supposed to come

00:24:16.280 out i want to say it was a week or two maybe it was a month or two after oklahoma city the oklahoma

00:24:22.120 city bombing and it was a movie about a white terrorist uh who was kind of a timothy mcveigh ish who was you

00:24:29.860 know setting off bombs and such and people were like i don't know if we want to release this right

00:24:36.140 after and they wound up delaying it and it came out later so this stuff does happen and you know

00:24:40.640 there's not it's there's nothing you can do if you're a movie company right you can't predict the

00:24:44.460 news but the what i keep coming back to and i just don't understand how you could you could look at it

00:24:51.300 any other way is that i don't know there's ever been a movie in history in which this set this setup is

00:24:57.180 the same let's say that there is a a bunch of really rich evil people that kidnap a bunch of

00:25:02.900 people throw them into a field and start hunting them who is the good guy in this situation it's

00:25:09.640 it's not it's not the guys in the field right exactly yeah this is a movie that i think quite

00:25:14.700 clearly is set up that the the red state team is the good team yeah right the other people have

00:25:20.620 kidnapped them they've drugged them they've left them in a field and have started firing without

00:25:24.600 explanation at them in the field uh-huh this is not a movie that is set up to vilify the right

00:25:30.360 this is a movie in which you have to imagine the right is the hero of the movie yes the people in

00:25:36.760 the field are the ones you would think so yeah i mean i can't imagine like that you know it's a

00:25:41.320 five second movie it opens up they're in the field they all fire at them they're all dead and

00:25:44.360 it's over like that's not a movie and again this comes from blumhouse this is the same uh company

00:25:49.400 that produced the movie get out now get out was i believe nominated for best uh picture and a bunch

00:25:54.880 of other things but if you ever saw that movie it is a movie quite clearly about white liberals and

00:26:02.000 their racism that is what the movie is about it is the topic of the movie uh and you know in there

00:26:09.120 the the most evil people in the movie who are trying to do really bad things to black people at one

00:26:14.880 point they actually say uh he defends his racism this is a guy who's you know basically murdering 0.93

00:26:21.440 african-americans defends his racism by say i by saying well but i voted for obama right like this

00:26:27.500 is now i'm not saying that blumhouse is some right wing outfit it's not but they are willing to chase a

00:26:33.720 good story no matter what when it comes to politics that's what they will do and they've shown this over

00:26:38.260 and over again i like it's a really interesting concept for a movie it's ballsy and i mean the

00:26:45.340 idea though that conservatives would be the one complaining about it exactly i would be i would

00:26:50.920 expect liberals to be pissed off at that concept not conservatives yeah i mean i mean unless the

00:26:55.880 movie takes a really strange twist i can't imagine the people in the field getting shot at or the bad

00:27:00.020 guys right like that would be a very that's way beyond m night shamalan when it comes to the twist

00:27:04.840 you know what the the liberals with all the millions of dollars that kidnap people

00:27:07.940 they were doing the right thing innocent women in the field now that was right the end 1.00

00:27:11.740 vote elizabeth warren i don't think that's how this ends

00:27:15.900 you're listening to the best of the glenn beck program with pat and stufer glenn 888-727-BECK

00:27:28.460 uh got a new study about uh sugar being the poison that it is the can't it well it's i mean it's it's a

00:27:36.120 cancer poison or a poisoned cancer um it tastes good but it's killing you dead and uh you're

00:27:44.140 gonna drop over from it any minute now that's basically do i basically have it you do yeah a

00:27:50.120 small glass of juice or soft drink a day is linked to increased risk of cancer um in case you didn't

00:27:55.980 know that a small glass of juice or soda days linked to an increased risk of cancer study finds

00:28:00.240 is there is there anything not linked to an increased risk of cancer thank you everything

00:28:05.040 is there anything i can ingest that doesn't do that this is like the the i don't think the answer

00:28:10.200 to that is is uh i think there is anything that's safe like they had a uh one thing they do all the

00:28:16.040 time is will be like did you see that cell phones are linked to cancer brain cancer brain cancer and

00:28:21.440 they're like the u.n has has said that it is possibly carcinogenic and you're like okay well

00:28:26.980 that sounds pretty bad until you realize that the u.n has i think tested 300 different substances

00:28:33.940 uh through this program and they have how many have they decided are not carcinogenic um none

00:28:40.700 literally not one of them they have come up with no that doesn't cause cancer right wow because i mean

00:28:47.780 who knows at any at some dosage right who knows like things like pickled vegetables for example

00:28:54.640 are possibly carcinogenic according to the u.n um you know it's it's it's it's like to that level

00:29:00.320 every single thing that pops up is possibly carcinogenic now what if i eat just raw kale

00:29:04.780 raw kale you'll just well that that's possibly suicidal you'll you'll kill you're right you will 0.96

00:29:10.180 kill yourself kill you just from the taste yes i don't know if they've tested kale or not i do have a 0.98

00:29:14.320 really good recipe for kale okay you put coconut oil in a pan you know uh and then some of these 1.00

00:29:20.280 are really good actually how does it work it's just like a drizzle yeah like a drizzle yep and

00:29:24.960 then you just kind of swirl it around sure you know and then you put the kale in the pan with the

00:29:29.880 coconut oil high heat or no you don't even turn on the heat yet okay uh then you take the pan yep

00:29:35.800 and you put it over a garbage can and then the kale slides off right into the garbage really quickly

00:29:41.320 because and it doesn't even stick to the pan at all oh it's great oil in there because i saw a lot

00:29:45.620 of times i have that issue where that where the kale leaves are still on there i gotta wash it off

00:29:49.660 it takes a while it's like icky because you have to touch them and stuff you don't have to do this

00:29:53.800 with with my recipe oh wow so so that works pretty well really i gotta try that when i get home yeah

00:29:58.400 can you would you put that out on your twitter feed that recipe just kind of so we can walk people

00:30:01.960 through it i think that would be really nice okay um another one are cancer risks should not be

00:30:05.940 sugar-coated you see what they did there oh wow do you see what they did there i do a new study

00:30:10.600 points to a possible link between higher consumption of sugary drinks and increased

00:30:14.680 risk of cancer then you get soda and fruit juice linked to cancer in major study of sugary drinks

00:30:22.000 over and over and over and over again if you saw these if if you have had hassles from family members

00:30:28.040 that have now said you could never have another cookie or another glass of soda in your in your life

00:30:33.340 or juice yeah right um if this has happened to you it's interesting to look a little bit deeper

00:30:39.720 into what the study actually says because if you think political reporting sucks in this country

00:30:46.200 and i do you wouldn't even imagine how much worse health and science reporting is it is because you

00:30:52.460 know at least in political reporting like if if uh if someone comes out and says something about

00:30:58.560 republicans right republicans will at least fight back against it they'll at least say wait a minute no

00:31:04.560 that's not true here's our argument with health and science stuff there's not really like you know

00:31:10.200 the only people who make any noise about this stuff are like the corporation that sells you

00:31:14.660 the soda like they're the only people who come out and say wait wait a minute actually like look at

00:31:18.920 the study and no one believes them right no one's gonna believe them because they're the ones selling

00:31:22.400 you the soda and they think oh there's a profit motive there and not these pure scientists that are just

00:31:28.100 saying saying this and i will say largely it's not even a problem with the scientists a lot of times

00:31:33.020 i think we say of the scientists you know give us these crazy studies you know we always say this

00:31:37.300 about like oh first it's butter is bad for you and then margarine's bad for you and then it's none of

00:31:41.300 it's bad for you then all that's bad for you what really is true about that is the reporting on those

00:31:45.780 things suck it's not the studies largely it's the reporting on it that makes you the reporting presents

00:31:52.020 it as if the study says butter was bad and now margarine is bad and now butter is good and now 0.96

00:31:57.220 margarine is good when you look at the actual studies a lot of times what you find is it's

00:32:01.480 very nuanced it says it says things that probably are true it doesn't make one of the two things

00:32:07.480 the devil and the other thing god like the reporting does so we'll come back here in 60 seconds and we'll

00:32:12.920 go through if if if your wife or your husband has said hey you can never have another glass of orange

00:32:20.640 juice because you're going to die of cancer we'll give you the truth here in 60 seconds

00:32:24.480 this is the glenbeck program

00:32:29.440 so the study about sugar and cancer involved 100 000 people um they asked him a bunch of

00:32:41.720 questions about their lives survey it's a big one yeah it's a big wow it has some credibility to it

00:32:45.460 they monitored them for a decade so 100 000 people in france monitored over a decade that's that should be

00:32:51.020 a solid study yeah now it's an observational study and observational studies are different than

00:32:56.620 the highest levels of scientific study like when you have yeah the blind studies and like there's a

00:33:04.080 there's sort of a hierarchy of scientific study you have a control group did they do all that or not

00:33:08.140 so this is an observational study it's a lower basically we would say it's a lower quality study

00:33:12.660 though large they split the group they split the people into the groups of how much sugar they drank

00:33:17.600 either from juice or sugar sweetened beverages this is just drinking sugar this isn't ingesting

00:33:22.620 sugar through like candy bars right cake or whatever which is a major thing like yeah if you happen to

00:33:27.460 be a person who drinks a lot of water but then nine slices of cake a day that's me right well not nine

00:33:34.040 slices of cake or there's gonna be some pie in there too you want to spread it around among all the baked 0.61

00:33:40.140 groups and we can't leave out ice cream that'd be ridiculous ridiculous so so researchers found that

00:33:45.380 people who drank more sugary beverages were about 20 percent higher risk of cancer which is pretty

00:33:50.440 significant at 20 higher risk uh-huh they also found that drinking um just a little bit of a soda

00:33:56.680 like one bottle of coke per week could increase your risk of cancer what um and this includes one coke

00:34:04.080 a week right increases your risk of cancer you just clicked on the story guy who ingests 15 a day or

00:34:13.380 whatever randomly are you saying this generally yeah i'm just generally okay taking a guy who might

00:34:19.300 drink let's say diet coke okay well hold on we'll get into that because okay what i'm fascinated is pat

00:34:25.660 just did the thing that people do in with the media it's why they write stories like this right wait

00:34:31.900 just one soda and i'm gonna get cancer yeah click share right retweet you know like and that's what

00:34:38.620 happens and why they write the stories like this and you're saying that's let me give you the actual

00:34:42.680 perspective and look there is something here but let me tell you what it is okay uh first of all few

00:34:47.600 issues with the study yeah uh the first thing to notice cancer isn't one disease cancer is a huge

00:34:52.080 group of conditions that we lump together they looked at a whole range of different cancers including

00:34:56.700 pre and post menopausal breast cancer prostate cancer lung cancer and bowel cancer

00:35:01.040 and while there was an increased risk from drinking sugar for all cancer it was only true for one

00:35:07.540 specific subtype pre menopausal breast cancer so the idea being that every other type of cancer it

00:35:16.100 didn't show any increase at all it only showed an increase in pre menopausal breast cancer now

00:35:22.240 right off the bat you think yourself wow you know is it possible that drinking sugary drinks

00:35:29.120 and i'm thinking i probably don't have a risk for pre menopausal breast cancer i feel like it's low

00:35:34.440 my first feeling and i'm going back to juice yeah right off the bat you're gonna eliminate a bunch

00:35:40.160 of people here yes i don't want to go into identifications here i'm nervous about thank you

00:35:44.300 people i don't want you to tell you how you identify but you know like for example if you happen to

00:35:50.620 be post menopausal drink up right yeah there was no increase there no increase for any of these

00:35:55.860 other cancers just pre menopausal breast cancer and i find it interesting too that while they are

00:36:01.080 different in some ways pre menopausal breast cancer huge effect post menopausal breast effect

00:36:05.960 cancer no effect now look they're a little different but still you'd think they'd at least

00:36:13.240 be some effect for both okay so it found no increase from uh any of these other cancers

00:36:20.740 the absolute risk and this is the biggest thing you'll find in these studies more than anything

00:36:25.120 in the world to look for when you look at health and science reporting is this the difference between

00:36:29.660 relative risk and absolute risk every headline will tell you what the relative risk is relative risk is

00:36:38.120 different than absolute risk so here's the difference they say um there was about a 20 increase in the

00:36:44.980 incidence of cancer sounds really scary and it does sound really scary but the absolute risk is about

00:36:52.500 one percent so to put it another way when they say okay it's about a 20 risk in cancer this is how this

00:36:58.640 works out on average the with the people who had the lowest incidence in the in the study three out of

00:37:05.100 every 100 people had these effects of cancer okay with all if you were to go to the highest risk which

00:37:12.240 is i think four sodas a day okay that gets it to four out of 100 so it was three out of 100 with no

00:37:20.520 soda if you drink four sodas a day it goes to four out of 100 chance of getting cancer wow so it's not

00:37:27.160 a 20 you think people think 20 like you're going from three percent to 23 percent no it's three percent

00:37:32.360 to four to four percent it's a little bit there's fractions in there but that's the basic thing so there's

00:37:37.340 a slight uptick and you wonder over a hundred thousand people if they can really measure that

00:37:42.740 accurately because there's other things that go on this is an observational study first of all it's

00:37:47.320 people just telling yeah and they're doctors they're not they have they're also not looking at any of the

00:37:51.880 rest of what they're doing exactly well yeah exactly they try to control for some of it you know so

00:37:56.240 some of it like when it comes to income and there's certain parts of it but like for are they looking

00:38:00.560 at what else is in their diet though they i think well partially they are the interesting part about

00:38:06.940 that is when you talk about an observational study i come in pat you're dr pat and i come in and you

00:38:11.300 say to me hey uh fatso um how many sugar how many sugary drinks you have pretty good bedside manner

00:38:17.140 obviously yeah you're pretty you're really not the best doctor um you're a little really yeah um and you 0.86

00:38:22.660 say hey fatso uh you look like crap today how many sodas have you had and i say uh two 0.98

00:38:28.320 and then i go home and have nine or i go home and have none there's no way you know that you're 0.98

00:38:34.540 actually measuring what i'm drinking i'm just telling you and think about this is like a visit

00:38:38.400 what you know once a year i'm like well i've been having about two per week like how many sodas do you

00:38:43.240 have per day per week how many glasses of juice if you had to estimate that now out of nowhere

00:38:47.860 you wouldn't be able to do it accurately so that and that's just one of the things the false

00:38:53.140 reporting is a major problem in these studies all the time but it's entirely possible even likely

00:38:57.360 that some other factors might be causing both the cancer and increased sugar drinking for example

00:39:01.960 we know that wealthier people drink fewer soft drinks and we know that um we also know they

00:39:06.880 are at reduced risk of many cancers so being rich might be confounding the relationship between

00:39:11.640 cancer and sugar drinking uh and that's just one of the examples they try to control for these things

00:39:15.740 but you know they're they're they're doing estimates that's kind of a strange thing too since

00:39:19.460 when do rich people not drink soda is that a thing is that really a thing again it's on average so

00:39:25.040 some people do but i think a lot of times you find that wealthier people wind up spending more

00:39:30.740 time on their health you know they spend more time going to the gym they spend time uh you know

00:39:35.700 they they'll afford the organic you know uh salad that you know maybe instead of mcdonald's right

00:39:41.940 like there's some of those things that wind up being true over long periods of time but they're

00:39:45.900 not universal yeah point is though again basically like if this study is right and there's a million

00:39:51.160 questions about it and it's not the highest quality of study if it's right and you drink

00:39:55.840 all the soda you want in your entire life they're saying there's it goes from a three percent chance

00:40:00.920 of getting pre-menopausal breast cancer to a four percent chance now look as a person who loves soda

00:40:07.000 and i i should give you this because you did mention it pat this is this is everyone who write

00:40:11.100 writes these crazy things about um you know these headlines they say like everything these are sites

00:40:17.060 that live off of this cancer you know it's cancer scare websites are an entire industry

00:40:21.360 and one of the things they always fear monger on is artificial sweeteners they're always saying those

00:40:27.920 things are going to give you cancer all the time and they all put this study about sugar giving you

00:40:32.560 cancer in their headlines what they don't put in the headlines is this part of it even fruit juice

00:40:37.260 was associated with an increased cancer risk the only safe option aside from water were

00:40:42.280 artificially sweetened drinks which were not associated with any health issues in this

00:40:47.220 research what and that's been so like saccharine or saccharine aspartame any of that stuff splenda

00:40:55.080 any of them wow there's no effect at all now that's very consistent with scientific research over a

00:40:59.700 multiple decades but these these sites that would praise this if if it showed that there was a

00:41:07.300 artificial sweetener increase in cancer that would be all over every freaking news 1.00

00:41:12.260 source oh yeah that gets buried in paragraph like 90 if it's mentioned at all in these studies

00:41:16.880 stories about this bottom line is you should not be worried about how much sugar you drink and if it

00:41:23.200 affects your cancer i know as a person who loves soda if this said to me and it was completely true

00:41:28.020 if i had 12 sodas a day it would increase my cancer risk by one percent i'd still have 12 sodas a day

00:41:33.520 i like soda that much you would right no you would yeah you gotta it's better it's better to have the

00:41:38.520 information you can actually make decisions and not freak yourself out i feel like people just beat

00:41:43.980 themselves into panic constantly about what they can and can't eat what they can and can't ingest what

00:41:48.540 they when they have to sleep at certain times and get up at certain times and and do all these crazy

00:41:52.660 things and take nine million pills and it's like guys like the human body is relatively uh resilient

00:41:59.520 yeah you know you don't you know try not to dip yourself in a vat of acid you'll probably be fine

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