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On today's show, the boys talk about the latest CNN Town Hall flop and the latest on the dayton shooter. They also talk about some of the craziest things CNN has ever done, including a bunch of pranks and stunts at Walmarts and a new set of problems with joe biden.
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it's pat and stew in for glenn here he is back next week uh apparently still works at this
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company and we're uh happy to see him coming back on monday uh he's going to be picking the show
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back up i know he'll have lots to talk about i will also uh right off the bat here make sure
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podcast it's two hours so you get lots of great takes on all the big issues of the day uh and you
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can listen to it anytime so if you happen to be here for the podcast uh today we uh did a bunch of
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stuff the cnn town hall kind of a ratings flop unfortunately for them fortunately for us
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because maybe there won't be another one but unfortunately for them a brand new set a plethora
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of joe biden screw-ups today because i mean his were it was not a good day for joe no joe's having
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a hard time he is it's not it's not been pretty so far but he's he's trying his best and he's still
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way ahead so far at least we talk about the number one language in america which is it uh i thought it
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should maybe should be english but apparently that's controversial it's oh it is now you've given it away
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will sugar give you cancer uh well of course it will uh and uh walmart um people trying to now
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like do pranks and stunts at walmart to make points for and against guns oh man really bad idea
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in both cases but we'll give you the details on that as well and the latest about the dayton
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that stuff seems i mean that's like ancient history isn't it i know i love throwing in the
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friendster jokes it's my favorite one because if you don't know it was a social network before
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facebook and really i can before i think my space it was around there it was like the one that
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everyone said was going to make a big run but never really caught on right uh and we're like it's like
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12 generations ago now like like my references are getting really is you get to a point where you're
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we always used to make fun of you because all of your impersonations are dead uh they're either
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they're either dead or long retired and there's no there's no active person you impersonate
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all the people have passed away their parents or their children barely remember them it's a weird
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thing as they're current i can't do their voice soon as they die so weird i can get there now
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so yeah i know it's a it's a it's a long road pat it's a long road yes anyway it's i think
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eventually we're gonna get to that point where people feel the same way about cnn you're gonna
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make a cnn joke and people are like what what is what is cnn what is that if they keep going as they
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currently are that will happen this is pretty bad you know they did this big gun town hall thing
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over uh the last couple of days which i'm sure they thought was going to be massive well the last one
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was right i mean the last one was a big deal at least i don't know how i don't remember but i think
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it did pretty well in the ratings that night uh actually let's see uh yeah so jake tapper did the
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first one and it did a little bit better so last night they had uh or they did america under assault
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the gun crisis uh aired at 9 p.m drew in 1.2 million total viewers on average hannity um who interviewed
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a democratic candidate in last place bill de blasio oh wow 3.1 million and rachel maddow did
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2.3 million so they only lost jeez they came in third place and came in half of second place
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is how many people actually watched uh jake tapper's town hall was uh had 58 percent more
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viewers than chris cuomo's so this did not work very well this time no look it's a it's the same
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trick they tried last time right you come out and you try to take advantage of a tragedy and
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uh you try to you know ramp up ratings and that's not a good idea i don't think people think of that as
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a as in bounds you know it feels really icky to try to take advantage of something like that
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it may be the first time you do it people are like all right look they're trying to get solutions
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they're trying you know when you hear the voices of some of these people in the community i mean you
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can make those arguments you trot it out again after how bad of it went last time when you got
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to a point where the people that you brought in as guests completely stacked the deck against dana who
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was there to be a spokesperson for the nra yeah and and they they just tried to bludgeon her the
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whole time and and in some ways literally i mean like she was there was a legitimate security threat
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for her right uh and you know they luckily she was able to get out of there but they did not treat
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it well they they did not handle it well the biggest mistake they made as far as the actual
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program went was having the large loud cheering crowd because that's not look if you're if you're
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trying to make an argument that you're coming up with real solutions we care about this and we care
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about the community you know you don't turn it into a wwe event yeah and that's what they did last
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time i don't know if they did that this time i don't remember seeing a crowd it could be that they
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invited a crowd but then they heard it was chris cuomo so they didn't come that's a very possible
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thing here but it did not do well finished third place for their big uh gun town hall and you know
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at some point you got to pull the plug on the chris cuomo experiment don't you i think at some point
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you just have to realize i think so yes yes he has a famous name in the state you're in okay that's
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about what you have with chris i think it's about time to just say you know just turn it off you know
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sometimes you try things and they just don't work yeah you know you saw a guy he said hey i remember
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that guy used to be governor and now his brothers or his dad used to be governor now his brother's
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governor maybe we should put him on tv and it seems like a good idea at the time and then it falls
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apart and you can try to you know put it back together over and over and over again but at some point
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you just have to say look this is not working and i think we're there with chris cuomo are we not
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oh yes we were there date i think two for me but if it takes cnn a little while to catch up okay but
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they should be caught up by now all right much more coming up 60 seconds this is the glenn beck
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patent stew for glenn on the glenn beck program 888-727-BECK big headline about
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uh the nra warning president bush or president trump um and warning him that his supporters just
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aren't going to be supportive of gun control i i really believe that's true i think even the hardest
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core of trump supporters would oppose uh getting into gun control legislation or gun control executive
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orders and he's seemingly according to these stories been asking around with his aides
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people close to him and he's also said it publicly that he wants to go after it yeah you know he
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hasn't been specific so what does that mean you know he wants to have uh expanded background checks
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and uh i mean um red flag laws and he's he's spoken some you know some support for those ideas but
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you know in passing and walking up to a plane who knows what this actually means
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that being said when you go after a core belief of your of your uh voting block
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you risk things even when you are incredibly popular i mean you know george w bush came out
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of that his re-election beat john carrey was incredibly popular and this was 0506 when he did
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the comprehensive immigration reform thing and that's a one of the first things he did was to use some of
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his political capital to go after immigration reform and that was what essentially destroyed
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his presidency really hurt him you know there were multiple things i'll also give you harriet myers as
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a supreme court nominee which the the base rejected and uh in addition to that his handling of katrina
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really wiped out a lot of his you know he really was known as sort of the competent in crisis sort of
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president because of everything that happened with 9-11 the war though started turning the wrong way
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and then katrina happened and you know while the reporting on a lot of that was really bad and a
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lot of that wasn't him you know screwing those things up it still didn't help at all but really
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it was it was never that it was never a big deal people were like oh well his you know people lost
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faith in him because of katrina well some did right but it was never a case of i don't think a lot of
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conservatives lost faith in him because of katrina they knew that wasn't his fault the difference in
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his presidency between term uh one and term two was not that the people in general lost faith in bush
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it was that his his actual the conservatives did yeah because of things like immigration reform they
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were like look i mean he's not even you know we'll walk through him with a lot of the stuff if he makes
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a mistake we're okay but like this is violating he's trying to do something against us yes you know
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it's not that he screwed up he's trying to do something that we don't like he's coming after
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our core values and conservatives were making a lot of noise about it how much they opposed it and
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we don't want you to do this well he tried to do it anyway and that did hurt him and they stopped it
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and then later yes uh conservatives did stop it later he also not only did he still want the
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comprehensive immigration reform but then he went after the border patrol agents ramos and campeon
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and would not budge on that at all until the day he left office uh those guys languished in jail for a
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couple of years because you know they shot a uh drug dealer in the butt who by the way they thought
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had a gun and was aiming it at them and so that really hurt him too and when he cited that he further
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sided with mexico uh as mexico tried to stop the execution of that heinous illegal immigrant from
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1993 who raped and murdered uh two 15 year old girls in houston uh and he'd been on death row for
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quite some time and bush sided with mexico against texas for that yeah right and those were all huge
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issues i remember for the audience at the time turned his base and that was a violation of
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something they believed was you know a core value rule of law on the border and it was something that
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really you know i think really was the thing that turned his presidency from what was beforehand
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largely on partisan lines you know you certainly after 9-11 he was much more popular than that but
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you know it had come down to a point where republicans basically liked bush and democrats basically didn't
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and after that that republican support eroded and the reason we bring this up is because when you
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know trump risks a lot violating a core belief of his own audience yeah and this is definitely one of
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those yeah i mean it's risky man core for a lot of people you know if he wants to win this election
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you know i was talking to david harris jr who's a you know he's on news and white matters uh and he's a
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big social media personality very pro-trump and um we were talking about this and he said you know look
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i my audience is pissed off about this david's audience is very pro-trump i mean he's a very
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pro-trump guy loves him he's been to the white house a bunch of times like he is you know in in
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that pocket completely you know he is the you know uh he's a loyal guy he believes his trump is doing a
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great job and he said his audience is doing the same thing there they are they are really scared
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about this they do not want him to do this and he made the point and this point is true that look
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right now they're going to be mad about this but when it comes down to it what are you going to
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vote for elizabeth warren what are you going to do i mean like you're going to have a choice there
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and that's a good point yeah when it comes down to it he's still going to be a better choice than
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elizabeth warren or bernie sanders the issue though is you lose passion enthusiasm you know some
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people you know look are they all going to turn out are they going to donate are they going to
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campaign are they going to be telling every one of their friends how great trump is or are they
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going to be like well i mean look he's better and i you know he pisses me off on this issue but i'll
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pull the i'll pull the lever for him without all of that extra stuff you know one of the big stories
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i think of trump's presidency it has been passion you know you have a really passionate base that's
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going to go out there they're going to fight for this guy no matter what and if you start eroding that
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if you start to just on the edges and remain you know you can't afford to lose a lot of votes
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this is this is an election remember obviously not that this matters electorally but he didn't
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you know he lost the popular vote this is a so and i don't say that to say that like oh he lost i say
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that to say it was close it was a lot closer than memory might serve you if you look at the electoral
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college yeah i mean basically it was about 70 000 votes that were the difference in that election
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that's not a lot no it's not and you know it's so you you have to be careful and you start going
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after second amendment rights and that that might just be enough to take away at the fringe and give
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us some socialist to come in here and be president of the united states and nobody wants that at least
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i don't uh yeah me neither and we've i think we've mentioned that a couple of times you don't want a
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socialist as a president yeah i think i have it's come up triple eight seven two seven beck more in a
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there's a little bit too much urgency in your show you're really covering the news of the day i
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like to listen to podcasts from several months ago are those available yes okay yes you can listen
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to those as well i like to just know what's going on what was the news of the day in in april
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yeah we have that and you have that that's available i can get that anytime anytime i just
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don't want to pay as much as i need to probably it's probably too expensive how does zero dollars
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sound wow yeah very good yeah very good it's an incredible bargain it's a good value yeah normally
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that sells for 99.95.99 really yeah wow but but now uh it's free to it's 100 off wow yeah well i mean
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you know limited time only of course you i think you might want to raise those prices because i think
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you're about to be boycotted really i do i do i've been hearing a lot about this and my understanding
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is if you're a republican if you're a conservative you need to be boycotted if you voted for donald
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trump especially well because you're a white nationalist right right automatically a racist
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and a white nationalist yes voted for trump that is what msnbc is letting you know and i mean they're
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just one example but this is a msnbc analyst rick stangle talking about trump supporters and and
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whether you should boycott them or not okay people boycotted apartheid products remember
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years ago you wouldn't buy stock or a company or product from any company that supported apartheid
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south africa why isn't there not that same thing with with with people who support donald trump and
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their products and their companies and there has been with equinox this past week great question
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why isn't there why isn't the same thing pat can you think of let me and i'm asking this honestly
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you're a smart guy you put a lot of thoughts in the thing can you think of one difference between
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2019 america and apartheid south africa is there any no any distinction no you would make between those
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because i there's a i can think of one minor can you because i'm hard-pressed i can't want me to give
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it to you all right northern hemisphere southern hemisphere okay that's that's the only thing i
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could come up i should have found that one you know i mean it's so close yeah it's basically the
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same policies as you know black people are not allowed to be employed here in the united states
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they're all separate now some people would note that the black unemployment rate is as low as it's
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ever been in history some people would would note that huh and say maybe that's not the same situation
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as apartheid maybe maybe it's a little different yeah maybe maybe stealing the land and raising the
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people and i mean the destruction that went on in apartheid south africa a tad different isn't that
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the same guy who did the nazi thing with him too didn't he is that the same is it the same guy i
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don't know i think it is i do remember that what is this guy's name rick stengel wow maybe it's a
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different guy yeah that guy was was it figliusi or something oh yeah yeah that was a different guy
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that was you're talking about the hh guy yes he said because donald trump was putting the flag back
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up on august 8th that meant he thought it had heil hitler significance yes because 88 is h h the h h is
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the eighth letter of the alphabet so h h equals heil hitler said this on national television by the way
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this this is a point a serious point made on national television just like this one just like this one
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apartheid uh and it's it's amazing wow what i find most amazing about it though is not that there's
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people who are a little bit unhinged when it comes to donald trump we know that it's not people who are
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unhinged coming against any republican president we know that happened i mean they used to call bush a
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terrorist every day on television i mean this is not new what i'm fascinated about though is just the
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the lack of ability to learn to learn a very important lesson arguably hillary clinton is not
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president of the united states because she made a statement uh about the donald trump supporters
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being a basket of deplorables you of course remember this because it was the one of the
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biggest things in the entire campaign and everyone went around and said we're the deplorables and
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and it became a rallying cry and remember this election turned on three states and about 70 000 votes
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so this is not something that needed to be a you know to take over the entire election
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it was a very close election and you know i think you could make a sensible argument that
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that moment for hillary cost her the election it's you can't exactly tie it scientifically of course
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you're never going to be able to pull it up but i mean 70 000 votes was not a lot to to move on a
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statement that well publicized now to go back to 2016 for a second you can make a really legitimate
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case that what hillary clinton said was true and actually you can make a case that what she said
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about deplorables is true about every candidate that has ever run a race in every single instance
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every candidate has followers who are you would put in the category of i'm proud to have those followers
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and you'd put some in the category of i mean i'm glad they're voting for me but i really don't want
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to be associated with them right and all all hillary clinton was doing was saying look there is a
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a basket of deplorables these awful people that actually are racist and all these things and we
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don't we're not i'm never going to get them but there are a lot of other people in the republican
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party who we can get to vote for me right there there are a lot of those people who are are open to
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voting for us because they don't like the way donald trump acts or they just are moderates or whatever
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it is like the way she stated it was really bad and i think it may very well have cost her her the
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election however the actual context of that statement while she exaggerated it is largely
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true and it's largely true with every single candidate what have they done to learn from
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that moment though they now are saying there is no exception everyone who votes for donald trump
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who is a republican is a racist everyone should be boycotted everyone should be uh vilified instead
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of saying a slice of them are bad which is what hillary said they're now saying all of them are bad
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they have just tripled and quadrupled down on the strategy that lost them the last election and they
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continue to do it day after day after day i i if if you were if there was a a book a tell-all that
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came out after this election and we found out that democrats were doing everything they could do
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to lose by as much as possible i would believe that it was actually accurate i i it's it's fascinating
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the way they are handling this they're going as socialist as they can they're vilifying every voter
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that could possibly come into their into their uh into their pocket they are just they are trying
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to lose this and they may very well do it let's hope so this is the glenn beck program
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triple eight seven 27 beck is the phone number pat and stew in for glenn glenn is back on monday
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by the way uh so get excited uh there is a a story that kind of would tie into what we were just
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talking about about the deplorables but it is being i think completely completely misrepresented
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uh to the american people and largely by conservative audiences and conservative media right now
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there's a new movie coming out called the hunt now if you saw if you watch the democratic debates
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they ran a bunch of ads in the democratic debates for this movie the hunt and i when i saw them i was
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like oh i'm in i can't wait to see this i know i like these types of movies it is a movie about
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essentially people kind of wake up in a field and realize they're being hunted by some other people
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and it's you know the way they kind of um explain it is they it comes off the the previews are are
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great they're just like uh it looks like you need to get away to a upscale experience where it's like
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a hunting lodge it's like a commercial for a hunting lodge and then you realize about halfway through
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that they're hunting actual people um you know so it's a horror movie and pretty intense
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it comes from blumhouse uh which is they've made a lot of the big horror movies over the past you
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know five to ten years um and they usually make a lot of money they make a lot of money cost very
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little and then make a lot yeah and they've had some you know some of their movies have been up for
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best picture uh they've i mean they've had some you know real success and they've told great stories
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the issue here though is that people and you don't get this from the previews but the reporting about
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the movie they are saying that essentially what happens is the people in the field being hunted
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are uh have were called in the movie deplorables and they appear to be essentially red staters
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of some sort i don't know that it's specific to trump but it's some sort of like
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you know red staters and they're being hunted by like liberals and this is apparently like
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apparently to somebody i don't know who but apparently to somebody this is offensive on the
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conservative side and because they're saying well these people are being hunted they're going and
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they're this is a bad message to send now there's been some controversy about the um movie because
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in the wake of you know the shootings and all of this sometimes these things get rescheduled some
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places have pulled ads for the movie because you know it's obviously a violent storyline um and
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this happens it's happened a million times in the past i mean i can remember arlington road you
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remember that movie arlington road had tim robbins in it um it was in the mid 90s was supposed to come
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out i want to say it was a week or two maybe it was a month or two after oklahoma city the oklahoma
00:24:22.120
city bombing and it was a movie about a white terrorist uh who was kind of a timothy mcveigh ish who was you
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know setting off bombs and such and people were like i don't know if we want to release this right
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after and they wound up delaying it and it came out later so this stuff does happen and you know
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there's not it's there's nothing you can do if you're a movie company right you can't predict the
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news but the what i keep coming back to and i just don't understand how you could you could look at it
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any other way is that i don't know there's ever been a movie in history in which this set this setup is
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the same let's say that there is a a bunch of really rich evil people that kidnap a bunch of
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people throw them into a field and start hunting them who is the good guy in this situation it's
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it's not it's not the guys in the field right exactly yeah this is a movie that i think quite
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clearly is set up that the the red state team is the good team yeah right the other people have
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kidnapped them they've drugged them they've left them in a field and have started firing without
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explanation at them in the field uh-huh this is not a movie that is set up to vilify the right
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this is a movie in which you have to imagine the right is the hero of the movie yes the people in
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the field are the ones you would think so yeah i mean i can't imagine like that you know it's a
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five second movie it opens up they're in the field they all fire at them they're all dead and
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it's over like that's not a movie and again this comes from blumhouse this is the same uh company
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that produced the movie get out now get out was i believe nominated for best uh picture and a bunch
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of other things but if you ever saw that movie it is a movie quite clearly about white liberals and
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their racism that is what the movie is about it is the topic of the movie uh and you know in there
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the the most evil people in the movie who are trying to do really bad things to black people at one
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point they actually say uh he defends his racism this is a guy who's you know basically murdering
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african-americans defends his racism by say i by saying well but i voted for obama right like this
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is now i'm not saying that blumhouse is some right wing outfit it's not but they are willing to chase a
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good story no matter what when it comes to politics that's what they will do and they've shown this over
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and over again i like it's a really interesting concept for a movie it's ballsy and i mean the
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idea though that conservatives would be the one complaining about it exactly i would be i would
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expect liberals to be pissed off at that concept not conservatives yeah i mean i mean unless the
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movie takes a really strange twist i can't imagine the people in the field getting shot at or the bad
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guys right like that would be a very that's way beyond m night shamalan when it comes to the twist
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you know what the the liberals with all the millions of dollars that kidnap people
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they were doing the right thing innocent women in the field now that was right the end
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vote elizabeth warren i don't think that's how this ends
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you're listening to the best of the glenn beck program with pat and stufer glenn 888-727-BECK
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uh got a new study about uh sugar being the poison that it is the can't it well it's i mean it's it's a
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cancer poison or a poisoned cancer um it tastes good but it's killing you dead and uh you're
00:27:44.140
gonna drop over from it any minute now that's basically do i basically have it you do yeah a
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small glass of juice or soft drink a day is linked to increased risk of cancer um in case you didn't
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know that a small glass of juice or soda days linked to an increased risk of cancer study finds
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is there is there anything not linked to an increased risk of cancer thank you everything
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is there anything i can ingest that doesn't do that this is like the the i don't think the answer
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to that is is uh i think there is anything that's safe like they had a uh one thing they do all the
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time is will be like did you see that cell phones are linked to cancer brain cancer brain cancer and
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they're like the u.n has has said that it is possibly carcinogenic and you're like okay well
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that sounds pretty bad until you realize that the u.n has i think tested 300 different substances
00:28:33.940
uh through this program and they have how many have they decided are not carcinogenic um none
00:28:40.700
literally not one of them they have come up with no that doesn't cause cancer right wow because i mean
00:28:47.780
who knows at any at some dosage right who knows like things like pickled vegetables for example
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are possibly carcinogenic according to the u.n um you know it's it's it's it's like to that level
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every single thing that pops up is possibly carcinogenic now what if i eat just raw kale
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raw kale you'll just well that that's possibly suicidal you'll you'll kill you're right you will
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kill yourself kill you just from the taste yes i don't know if they've tested kale or not i do have a
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really good recipe for kale okay you put coconut oil in a pan you know uh and then some of these
00:29:20.280
are really good actually how does it work it's just like a drizzle yeah like a drizzle yep and
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then you just kind of swirl it around sure you know and then you put the kale in the pan with the
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coconut oil high heat or no you don't even turn on the heat yet okay uh then you take the pan yep
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and you put it over a garbage can and then the kale slides off right into the garbage really quickly
00:29:41.320
because and it doesn't even stick to the pan at all oh it's great oil in there because i saw a lot
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of times i have that issue where that where the kale leaves are still on there i gotta wash it off
00:29:49.660
it takes a while it's like icky because you have to touch them and stuff you don't have to do this
00:29:53.800
with with my recipe oh wow so so that works pretty well really i gotta try that when i get home yeah
00:29:58.400
can you would you put that out on your twitter feed that recipe just kind of so we can walk people
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through it i think that would be really nice okay um another one are cancer risks should not be
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sugar-coated you see what they did there oh wow do you see what they did there i do a new study
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points to a possible link between higher consumption of sugary drinks and increased
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risk of cancer then you get soda and fruit juice linked to cancer in major study of sugary drinks
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over and over and over and over again if you saw these if if you have had hassles from family members
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that have now said you could never have another cookie or another glass of soda in your in your life
00:30:33.340
or juice yeah right um if this has happened to you it's interesting to look a little bit deeper
00:30:39.720
into what the study actually says because if you think political reporting sucks in this country
00:30:46.200
and i do you wouldn't even imagine how much worse health and science reporting is it is because you
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know at least in political reporting like if if uh if someone comes out and says something about
00:30:58.560
republicans right republicans will at least fight back against it they'll at least say wait a minute no
00:31:04.560
that's not true here's our argument with health and science stuff there's not really like you know
00:31:10.200
the only people who make any noise about this stuff are like the corporation that sells you
00:31:14.660
the soda like they're the only people who come out and say wait wait a minute actually like look at
00:31:18.920
the study and no one believes them right no one's gonna believe them because they're the ones selling
00:31:22.400
you the soda and they think oh there's a profit motive there and not these pure scientists that are just
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saying saying this and i will say largely it's not even a problem with the scientists a lot of times
00:31:33.020
i think we say of the scientists you know give us these crazy studies you know we always say this
00:31:37.300
about like oh first it's butter is bad for you and then margarine's bad for you and then it's none of
00:31:41.300
it's bad for you then all that's bad for you what really is true about that is the reporting on those
00:31:45.780
things suck it's not the studies largely it's the reporting on it that makes you the reporting presents
00:31:52.020
it as if the study says butter was bad and now margarine is bad and now butter is good and now
00:31:57.220
margarine is good when you look at the actual studies a lot of times what you find is it's
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very nuanced it says it says things that probably are true it doesn't make one of the two things
00:32:07.480
the devil and the other thing god like the reporting does so we'll come back here in 60 seconds and we'll
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go through if if if your wife or your husband has said hey you can never have another glass of orange
00:32:20.640
juice because you're going to die of cancer we'll give you the truth here in 60 seconds
00:32:29.440
so the study about sugar and cancer involved 100 000 people um they asked him a bunch of
00:32:41.720
questions about their lives survey it's a big one yeah it's a big wow it has some credibility to it
00:32:45.460
they monitored them for a decade so 100 000 people in france monitored over a decade that's that should be
00:32:51.020
a solid study yeah now it's an observational study and observational studies are different than
00:32:56.620
the highest levels of scientific study like when you have yeah the blind studies and like there's a
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there's sort of a hierarchy of scientific study you have a control group did they do all that or not
00:33:08.140
so this is an observational study it's a lower basically we would say it's a lower quality study
00:33:12.660
though large they split the group they split the people into the groups of how much sugar they drank
00:33:17.600
either from juice or sugar sweetened beverages this is just drinking sugar this isn't ingesting
00:33:22.620
sugar through like candy bars right cake or whatever which is a major thing like yeah if you happen to
00:33:27.460
be a person who drinks a lot of water but then nine slices of cake a day that's me right well not nine
00:33:34.040
slices of cake or there's gonna be some pie in there too you want to spread it around among all the baked
00:33:40.140
groups and we can't leave out ice cream that'd be ridiculous ridiculous so so researchers found that
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people who drank more sugary beverages were about 20 percent higher risk of cancer which is pretty
00:33:50.440
significant at 20 higher risk uh-huh they also found that drinking um just a little bit of a soda
00:33:56.680
like one bottle of coke per week could increase your risk of cancer what um and this includes one coke
00:34:04.080
a week right increases your risk of cancer you just clicked on the story guy who ingests 15 a day or
00:34:13.380
whatever randomly are you saying this generally yeah i'm just generally okay taking a guy who might
00:34:19.300
drink let's say diet coke okay well hold on we'll get into that because okay what i'm fascinated is pat
00:34:25.660
just did the thing that people do in with the media it's why they write stories like this right wait
00:34:31.900
just one soda and i'm gonna get cancer yeah click share right retweet you know like and that's what
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happens and why they write the stories like this and you're saying that's let me give you the actual
00:34:42.680
perspective and look there is something here but let me tell you what it is okay uh first of all few
00:34:47.600
issues with the study yeah uh the first thing to notice cancer isn't one disease cancer is a huge
00:34:52.080
group of conditions that we lump together they looked at a whole range of different cancers including
00:34:56.700
pre and post menopausal breast cancer prostate cancer lung cancer and bowel cancer
00:35:01.040
and while there was an increased risk from drinking sugar for all cancer it was only true for one
00:35:07.540
specific subtype pre menopausal breast cancer so the idea being that every other type of cancer it
00:35:16.100
didn't show any increase at all it only showed an increase in pre menopausal breast cancer now
00:35:22.240
right off the bat you think yourself wow you know is it possible that drinking sugary drinks
00:35:29.120
and i'm thinking i probably don't have a risk for pre menopausal breast cancer i feel like it's low
00:35:34.440
my first feeling and i'm going back to juice yeah right off the bat you're gonna eliminate a bunch
00:35:40.160
of people here yes i don't want to go into identifications here i'm nervous about thank you
00:35:44.300
people i don't want you to tell you how you identify but you know like for example if you happen to
00:35:50.620
be post menopausal drink up right yeah there was no increase there no increase for any of these
00:35:55.860
other cancers just pre menopausal breast cancer and i find it interesting too that while they are
00:36:01.080
different in some ways pre menopausal breast cancer huge effect post menopausal breast effect
00:36:05.960
cancer no effect now look they're a little different but still you'd think they'd at least
00:36:13.240
be some effect for both okay so it found no increase from uh any of these other cancers
00:36:20.740
the absolute risk and this is the biggest thing you'll find in these studies more than anything
00:36:25.120
in the world to look for when you look at health and science reporting is this the difference between
00:36:29.660
relative risk and absolute risk every headline will tell you what the relative risk is relative risk is
00:36:38.120
different than absolute risk so here's the difference they say um there was about a 20 increase in the
00:36:44.980
incidence of cancer sounds really scary and it does sound really scary but the absolute risk is about
00:36:52.500
one percent so to put it another way when they say okay it's about a 20 risk in cancer this is how this
00:36:58.640
works out on average the with the people who had the lowest incidence in the in the study three out of
00:37:05.100
every 100 people had these effects of cancer okay with all if you were to go to the highest risk which
00:37:12.240
is i think four sodas a day okay that gets it to four out of 100 so it was three out of 100 with no
00:37:20.520
soda if you drink four sodas a day it goes to four out of 100 chance of getting cancer wow so it's not
00:37:27.160
a 20 you think people think 20 like you're going from three percent to 23 percent no it's three percent
00:37:32.360
to four to four percent it's a little bit there's fractions in there but that's the basic thing so there's
00:37:37.340
a slight uptick and you wonder over a hundred thousand people if they can really measure that
00:37:42.740
accurately because there's other things that go on this is an observational study first of all it's
00:37:47.320
people just telling yeah and they're doctors they're not they have they're also not looking at any of the
00:37:51.880
rest of what they're doing exactly well yeah exactly they try to control for some of it you know so
00:37:56.240
some of it like when it comes to income and there's certain parts of it but like for are they looking
00:38:00.560
at what else is in their diet though they i think well partially they are the interesting part about
00:38:06.940
that is when you talk about an observational study i come in pat you're dr pat and i come in and you
00:38:11.300
say to me hey uh fatso um how many sugar how many sugary drinks you have pretty good bedside manner
00:38:17.140
obviously yeah you're pretty you're really not the best doctor um you're a little really yeah um and you
00:38:22.660
say hey fatso uh you look like crap today how many sodas have you had and i say uh two
00:38:28.320
and then i go home and have nine or i go home and have none there's no way you know that you're
00:38:34.540
actually measuring what i'm drinking i'm just telling you and think about this is like a visit
00:38:38.400
what you know once a year i'm like well i've been having about two per week like how many sodas do you
00:38:43.240
have per day per week how many glasses of juice if you had to estimate that now out of nowhere
00:38:47.860
you wouldn't be able to do it accurately so that and that's just one of the things the false
00:38:53.140
reporting is a major problem in these studies all the time but it's entirely possible even likely
00:38:57.360
that some other factors might be causing both the cancer and increased sugar drinking for example
00:39:01.960
we know that wealthier people drink fewer soft drinks and we know that um we also know they
00:39:06.880
are at reduced risk of many cancers so being rich might be confounding the relationship between
00:39:11.640
cancer and sugar drinking uh and that's just one of the examples they try to control for these things
00:39:15.740
but you know they're they're they're doing estimates that's kind of a strange thing too since
00:39:19.460
when do rich people not drink soda is that a thing is that really a thing again it's on average so
00:39:25.040
some people do but i think a lot of times you find that wealthier people wind up spending more
00:39:30.740
time on their health you know they spend more time going to the gym they spend time uh you know
00:39:35.700
they they'll afford the organic you know uh salad that you know maybe instead of mcdonald's right
00:39:41.940
like there's some of those things that wind up being true over long periods of time but they're
00:39:45.900
not universal yeah point is though again basically like if this study is right and there's a million
00:39:51.160
questions about it and it's not the highest quality of study if it's right and you drink
00:39:55.840
all the soda you want in your entire life they're saying there's it goes from a three percent chance
00:40:00.920
of getting pre-menopausal breast cancer to a four percent chance now look as a person who loves soda
00:40:07.000
and i i should give you this because you did mention it pat this is this is everyone who write
00:40:11.100
writes these crazy things about um you know these headlines they say like everything these are sites
00:40:17.060
that live off of this cancer you know it's cancer scare websites are an entire industry
00:40:21.360
and one of the things they always fear monger on is artificial sweeteners they're always saying those
00:40:27.920
things are going to give you cancer all the time and they all put this study about sugar giving you
00:40:32.560
cancer in their headlines what they don't put in the headlines is this part of it even fruit juice
00:40:37.260
was associated with an increased cancer risk the only safe option aside from water were
00:40:42.280
artificially sweetened drinks which were not associated with any health issues in this
00:40:47.220
research what and that's been so like saccharine or saccharine aspartame any of that stuff splenda
00:40:55.080
any of them wow there's no effect at all now that's very consistent with scientific research over a
00:40:59.700
multiple decades but these these sites that would praise this if if it showed that there was a
00:41:07.300
artificial sweetener increase in cancer that would be all over every freaking news
00:41:12.260
source oh yeah that gets buried in paragraph like 90 if it's mentioned at all in these studies
00:41:16.880
stories about this bottom line is you should not be worried about how much sugar you drink and if it
00:41:23.200
affects your cancer i know as a person who loves soda if this said to me and it was completely true
00:41:28.020
if i had 12 sodas a day it would increase my cancer risk by one percent i'd still have 12 sodas a day
00:41:33.520
i like soda that much you would right no you would yeah you gotta it's better it's better to have the
00:41:38.520
information you can actually make decisions and not freak yourself out i feel like people just beat
00:41:43.980
themselves into panic constantly about what they can and can't eat what they can and can't ingest what
00:41:48.540
they when they have to sleep at certain times and get up at certain times and and do all these crazy
00:41:52.660
things and take nine million pills and it's like guys like the human body is relatively uh resilient
00:41:59.520
yeah you know you don't you know try not to dip yourself in a vat of acid you'll probably be fine
00:42:04.120
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