The Glenn Beck Program - September 10, 2025


Best of the Program | 9⧸10⧸25


Episode Stats

Length

46 minutes

Words per Minute

149.5528

Word Count

7,006

Sentence Count

548

Misogynist Sentences

11

Hate Speech Sentences

6


Summary

On this episode of the Glenn Beck Program, Glenn talks about the recent attack on a woman on a commuter train in Charlotte, North Carolina, and how the media failed to cover it. Glenn also discusses the use of pepper spray as a non-lethal self-defense tool and why it should be given to all college students everywhere.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hey, on today's podcast, there's a lot to cover. The media is indeed to blame for not covering the
00:00:06.100 Charlotte stabbing. And I think it's because of a reason that I don't I haven't heard anybody else
00:00:13.500 say there. Everybody's saying it didn't fit the narrative. Yeah, well, I think there's something
00:00:17.080 else involved. I think they thought that they could cause you to choose violence as a result
00:00:24.740 of them not covering. Also, what the torch really is. And why is the government not going after
00:00:30.700 people like George Soros knowing what he is capable of? What is our duty and our responsibility?
00:00:36.660 And would you be the bystander on the train? Or would you be able to stand up for what is right
00:00:42.300 and stop the madman? That's a conversation that I'm not sure who I would be. I know who I'd hope I'd be
00:00:49.460 on that train in Charlotte. But would I be? And would your family? What would you tell your
00:00:56.060 daughter to do in that situation? If she was sitting next to Irina in the seat right across
00:01:02.920 the aisle? Some deep thoughts on that one, all on today's podcast. Let me tell you about the
00:01:09.740 Berna launcher. Not every situation calls for a firearm. And if you've ever been in that gray area
00:01:14.880 where something felt off, maybe even dangerous, but you didn't feel justified pulling a gun,
00:01:19.460 then you know exactly why the Berna launcher exists. It's a non-lethal self-defense device
00:01:25.560 that operates like a firearm, but it fires pepper projectiles instead of bullets. There's no permit
00:01:30.980 required. It's legal in all 50 states. Look, the thing was invented by a guy who loves the Second
00:01:36.320 Amendment, but he was in road rage. Somebody was road raging and he pulls his car over. The guy in
00:01:42.560 road rage pulls right behind him, gets out of the car. He reaches for his gun in the glove box and is
00:01:47.640 like, no, I'm not willing to pull a gun and kill this guy. That'll just escalate things. He said
00:01:52.200 that was the biggest mistake of his life because he was beaten within an inch of his life by this guy
00:01:56.400 who was road raging. That's when he decided, I want to, I want something that I am feel comfortable
00:02:01.940 pulling every single time. And that's the Berna launcher. Do not put yourself in a situation where
00:02:08.300 you have to choose getting beaten with an inch of your life or pulling a gun.
00:02:12.160 This is an amazing thing, and I don't know why everybody is not giving them to their students
00:02:18.040 as they go to school. The Berna launcher, it's legal in all 50 states. Have to be 18, but it should be
00:02:23.780 with your college student everywhere they go. Berna, B-Y-R-N-A dot com slash Glenn. Learn more about it
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00:03:40.620 You know, while I was on vacation and I said this, when I came back, one of the things that I
00:03:46.320 found in my travels on vacation across the country was that we just, we are people that go from circus
00:03:54.060 to circus. That's really all that's happening right now. And this case in Charlotte is exactly
00:04:03.720 the same thing. It's going from one outrage to another outrage. And the press knows exactly what
00:04:13.060 they're doing. And I believe their silence was an attempt to whip you into violent action.
00:04:20.060 First of all, they didn't cover it because, you know, it didn't fit the narrative. And then after
00:04:25.680 a while, you don't cover it because, well, wait a minute. You know, when I, when I silence people,
00:04:32.740 when I don't cover something, what does that do?
00:04:36.200 I mean, they know, they know you're violent. You've already been labeled and targeted as a violent
00:04:47.100 extremist. They honestly are baffled by your nonviolent reaction in the last 20 years. Okay.
00:04:54.140 Because they think they know us. It's so strange. I had about 30 kids at the house yesterday and I was
00:05:02.840 teaching, um, the declaration of independence and, and, uh, and our founding documents. And I, I was,
00:05:11.280 I got up this morning and I read this and I'm thinking about the press and how they think they
00:05:18.260 know us. And I felt exactly, I think I felt like Thomas Jefferson must've when he was writing our
00:05:24.140 breakup letter, you know, the declaration of independence with King George, because in that
00:05:29.380 it's a plea it's, he's saying, look, we owe it to humanity. We owe it to the world and all mankind
00:05:36.500 to when we're going to do something this big, we owe the world a reason and we own the King,
00:05:43.500 a reason for doing it. And basically he's saying, because you don't understand us. We, we have been
00:05:50.000 trying to tell you that we don't believe the same things that you do. You believe you're the King
00:05:56.340 and you have the divine right of the King because God has appointed you to be King over us. And,
00:06:03.000 and we're, we're subjects. We're not even citizens. We're just subjects. And we don't believe that we
00:06:10.460 hold these things to be self-evident. Okay. And that's the way I feel right now that the press
00:06:18.220 thinks they know who we are and they won't listen. We've tried to tell them over and over again. We've
00:06:23.500 tried to tell the, you know, anybody reasonable who doesn't vote like us. We've been trying to say,
00:06:30.160 we're not those people. We're not who you say we are. We don't hate the government. We just don't
00:06:36.120 trust the government and neither do you quite honestly. And we shouldn't, we should hold them
00:06:43.060 accountable. We know what the problems are just like, you know, what the problems are.
00:06:47.880 You know, many people in your camp are trying to overthrow the United States of America.
00:06:54.880 I'm not, I'm trying to return her to her founding principles. You know, I hold these truths to be
00:07:02.000 self-evident. You know, we just heard, what's his name? Uh, I want to say it was a Tim Kaine that,
00:07:08.200 uh, just said that, you know, they say our rights come from God. Yes. Those are self-evident truths
00:07:14.940 that have all that is the American standard. You don't believe that you believe things like King
00:07:21.860 George believed. I don't. So how am I the revolutionary today in America? We're not like
00:07:30.280 you. You want to tear things down and destroy. We want to build. You believe the lie of that,
00:07:38.300 you know, there's, there are sheep and ranchers and you're the rancher and we're the sheep.
00:07:44.940 Some people are just born to be in charge because they know better. And because they know better,
00:07:50.100 they can get rich by any corrupt way they choose. But you, you have to pay your fair share, play by
00:07:57.220 the rules. And then we're going to make the rules to make it so you can't really ever succeed.
00:08:04.160 They believe they rule, not the, just the world, but our world, our personal world,
00:08:11.540 because they know better. And they're going to force us to live their way.
00:08:17.260 Sorry. I hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal.
00:08:23.820 And there are certain unchangeable rights that were given not by government, but by God to me
00:08:29.880 and you. And I have confidence in the Supreme judge of mankind. I have total confidence. God is not neutral
00:08:41.100 in the affairs of man. He's not. We need to do what is right, righteous, and legal.
00:08:48.420 I believe it is time we start to pursue legal accountability. We have to demand laws that strip
00:08:59.200 blanket immunity from prosecutors who are refusing to enforce the law. If you are going against federal
00:09:07.740 laws, the federal government should be able to go after you as a prosecutor.
00:09:13.080 We have to have real consequences for negligence in office. There's, there's consequences for
00:09:23.280 negligence on the street. Why is there no consequence for negligence in office? Why is it we can have all
00:09:29.640 those people killed in Afghanistan on our pullout and nobody was held accountable? Nobody. How is it we
00:09:36.800 can have prosecutor after prosecutor? Act in ways that let criminals back out in the streets that are killing
00:09:46.360 over and over and over again? Our neighborhoods are not safe. Our towns are not safe. Our people are dying from
00:09:53.360 drug cartels. And yet nobody's held for negligence? I mean, I'm being nice by saying negligence.
00:10:06.800 We need to begin to look to the law in all of our states. And it is high time our Congress gets off their
00:10:23.120 fat, lazy asses and starts to prosecute people. They know. They already know. They know. They have all the
00:10:34.300 evidence. Why is it being bogged down in Congress? Because many of them are involved. Well, maybe it's
00:10:41.320 time you appoint a citizens council. Maybe it's time to have citizens in charge of oversight of our
00:10:51.300 government. People who have not been paid off. People who are not involved in the corruption.
00:10:57.820 We have to refuse to forget. We have to refuse to sit down. We have to refuse to remain silent. Even though
00:11:12.680 everything you say might be used in a court of law at some point should things turn ugly. Refuse to remain
00:11:21.620 silent. You know, two months ago, I wrote a document I've been trying to figure out how to explain
00:11:29.660 internally and to you as well what the torch is and what our responsibilities are. And I wrote a document
00:11:40.080 for this program. And what we must do, what I feel our duty is to you and to the country,
00:11:50.740 and I shared it with a couple of people and they were like, I don't know, that's pretty harsh. And I'm like,
00:11:56.760 how is that harsh? That is just common sense and it's true. And I've been sitting on it and been praying
00:12:04.380 on it, been thinking about it. And you know what? Today I got up after thinking about all of this stuff last
00:12:10.900 night, yesterday and today and seeing what's happening in the world. And I'm sorry. I don't care if it's harsh. I
00:12:17.240 don't care if, I don't think you're going to find it harsh. I think you're going to go damn right.
00:12:24.260 But I want to declare what this program stands for and what our attempt and what we believe,
00:12:35.200 what I believe we should do as a company. And the good news is it's my company.
00:12:40.660 Um, so I want to share that with you next hour because I, I think it, it, it, it is the same
00:12:48.280 thing you should make as, as your duty as well, because I think this goes to all of us because
00:12:56.280 we're all in the same boat. We're all in this together. And if we don't, if we, for instance,
00:13:06.380 on this Charlotte story, if we erase Irina's name and just forget about it, it, her death
00:13:16.200 just becomes another casualty of a political narrative war. And that's what we're in. We're
00:13:22.680 fighting evil and evil is just a political narrative at this point. That's all it is.
00:13:30.280 Justice is not persecution. Justice is not vengeance. Justice is holding the guilty accountable,
00:13:46.020 whether they have a knife in the shadows or a prosecutor's pen in the courthouse, hold people
00:13:54.920 accountable. You know, Irina deserves that. She deserved that. We deserve that. And if we
00:14:03.900 don't demand it, you know, the next victim can be any, any one of us. And I go back to what
00:14:09.140 I told you just a minute ago, how the words of the killer coming out of his mouth, I guess
00:14:14.240 I got that white girl. How that reminded me of what was said to me by a crazy man on the
00:14:21.440 streets of Washington, D.C. Today's the day I'm going to kill me a white man. As he circled
00:14:27.280 me and pointed at me and looked me in the eye and said it repeatedly, today's the day I'm
00:14:33.820 going to kill me a white man. I mean it. Today is the day I'm going to kill me a white man.
00:14:38.160 I got up today and I thought I'm going to kill me a white man. That was a clear threat.
00:14:43.800 And that's exactly what happened to Irina. And if we don't stop this, you may be the next
00:14:56.940 victim because these people are empowered. They're in the streets. And if they are, if
00:15:06.620 they are whipped up by the media, if they are revolutionaries, they need to go to jail. If
00:15:16.940 they are just crazy people, they need to be removed from society and put into a treatment
00:15:25.120 program or being held until they are sane. But we're not doing any of those things because
00:15:35.340 our mayors are unaccountable. Our prosecutors are unaccountable. No one is being held to
00:15:44.200 anything except for you. That's not a society that will last.
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00:17:03.700 of the Glenn Beck program. And don't forget, rate us on iTunes. So I wrote a document because I am
00:17:11.020 trying to explain to my staff, to myself, so I can then translate this on what the torch really is,
00:17:22.940 because the torch is something that I'm starting in January. It is a pretty massive move in my
00:17:29.560 career. And it's gangly. It has so many different arms to it, but they're all pulling in the same
00:17:41.420 direction. And part of that is to expose the truth. And that's in current events. And that's what this
00:17:48.620 show is for. To expose what's really going on. To help you understand not only what happened
00:17:55.520 yesterday, but what it means, what's coming over the horizon tomorrow, and what to do about it today.
00:18:03.480 And to hold people, to hold a record of what has happened, because that's one of the other arms of
00:18:15.220 the torch is history. And when we think of history, we think of history, you know, the old dusty powder
00:18:22.160 wig kind of history. But history is happening right now. What happened in Charlotte is now part of
00:18:28.300 American history. And you have to know history to be able to see what happened to a society, what
00:18:36.200 happened to this civilization, and how do we get back if we choose to get back. So I wrote something
00:18:42.220 a couple of months ago, and I want to share it with you. It was our principles of truth and duty.
00:18:50.720 And this was something that I wrote for my staff. But I think it applies to everybody, you know, that
00:18:57.840 that cares to heed the warning. There comes a time in the life of a nation, a people, or even a single
00:19:04.500 soul when silence becomes betrayal. Not because silence itself is evil, but because it allows evil to
00:19:11.820 metastasize. When the foundations of liberty are under assault through lies, miseducation, bureaucratic
00:19:18.720 rot, or quiet erosion of conscience, it becomes not just advisable, but incumbent upon us to act.
00:19:28.140 This is not meant to be a call to arms. This is a call to accounting, a call to record, to expose,
00:19:37.500 to resist the machinery of falsehood with clarity, with courage, and a relentless commitment to the truth.
00:19:44.960 We have a duty to document. Again, this was meant for internal use, but I think this is all of our duty.
00:19:54.700 We have a duty to document. We have an urgent obligation to gather, organize, and preserve every fact,
00:20:03.460 every document, every statement, and record this. Put it on the record. Anything that reveals how truth
00:20:12.440 has been suppressed and freedom distorted. Because tyranny rarely kicks down the front door, it seeps
00:20:19.300 through the cracks. Rewritten textbooks, judicial overreach, regulatory capture, and a media more loyal
00:20:26.740 to narrative than fact. Our mission is to leave no stone unturned. We must collect evidence from those
00:20:35.120 who have been silenced, the whistleblowers, the scholars, the citizens. We must document the abuses
00:20:41.900 in education, religion, politics, and the press. We must preserve the testimonies of those who still
00:20:49.620 remember what America was meant to be, so that the record can't be altered by those who wish to remake it
00:20:56.200 in their image. This is a stewardship, not of history alone, but of memory to the necessity of public
00:21:09.620 exposure. To give people information is no longer enough. Collecting information is no longer enough.
00:21:20.240 Truth locked in a drawer is no different from truth that never existed. Our task is to make the darkness
00:21:28.860 visible, to shine a light on it so intensely that no rational mind can deny what it sees. Therefore,
00:21:37.700 we must publish. We must speak. We must create platforms immune to the corrosive pull of centralized
00:21:46.240 control. If the towers of culture no longer permit dissent. We must build new towers. If the institutions
00:21:56.080 of learning no longer teach, then we must build new institutions. We must teach it in our homes. We must
00:22:04.100 teach it in our churches, in our communities. Through the digital ether, it must be taught. Truth
00:22:12.200 must be weaponized, but not to wound, simply to wake. Three, the importance of naming names.
00:22:25.440 It is not enough anymore to condemn evil in the abstract. The machinery of corruption operates
00:22:34.920 through people, through planners, financiers, bureaucrats, ideologues. We must, with
00:22:42.020 discernment and precision, identify those who have abused their power, manipulated the system,
00:22:49.560 or enabled tyranny. Not for vengeance, but for accountability. A future generation must be able
00:22:59.420 to trace how the fire spread so they may build firebreaks that last. Four, the spiritual cost of inaction.
00:23:12.020 Though this isn't a religious document, it should be known there is a spiritual dimension to
00:23:19.360 cowardice. When good men and women fail to speak, they don't merely preserve their safety,
00:23:27.480 they transfer their burden to those who will come after them. Every truth left unsaid becomes a lie
00:23:36.100 the next generation. We all will be asked, what did you know? When did you know it? And what did you do
00:23:46.760 with what you knew? We cannot give the answer. I waited for somebody else.
00:23:55.640 Five, the power of the individual. This statement of purpose is not for a mob. It's not for the crowd.
00:24:08.020 It is for the individual, the mother, the teacher, the soldier, the student, who still believes the truth
00:24:15.200 matters and who's willing to carry the weight of remembering and resisting. No contribution is too small.
00:24:23.760 None is too small. No act of courage is wasted. You may at some point be the last light in your circle.
00:24:35.920 That is all the more reason to burn brighter. To remain silent now is to become complicit.
00:24:44.100 To act is not optional. It is essential. Therefore, it is our duty to document, to expose, to speak,
00:24:58.720 to teach, and to stand. Because in the end,
00:25:10.240 history is not written by those who whisper in safety. History is written by those who stood
00:25:21.760 when standing cost them dearly. That is the path to restoring the promise. That is our duty,
00:25:33.800 our responsibility, our responsibility, and our honor.
00:25:53.960 I don't know how you can find that radical. I don't know how you can find that to be anything
00:26:01.720 other than true.
00:26:17.360 And I share that with you today because I knew this when I wrote this, but it feels more important
00:26:28.240 even today as I'm seeing what is happening in our country just with this Charlotte thing.
00:26:37.480 There are people that are hell-bent in tearing us apart.
00:26:43.840 There are people that are negligent.
00:26:46.400 You know, those people on the train that did nothing, though, some did stand up eventually
00:26:56.960 and tried to help, but it was too late. And I don't know if you could have saved her anyway.
00:27:02.620 I don't judge those people. I don't know what was going through their head.
00:27:07.640 I didn't like the action. I didn't like the fact that nobody went to her.
00:27:12.440 You know, the woman sitting across just turned her face, turned her head while this woman
00:27:17.560 is dying on the floor. I mean, I think you're going to pay a personal spiritual cost for that.
00:27:24.760 Although, I could be wrong. I don't know what was going through that woman's head.
00:27:28.940 But if we don't act, if we only protect ourselves and we don't stand,
00:27:43.740 you know, this is what we learned after 9-11.
00:27:47.280 Remember, all the planes went down because nobody did anything,
00:27:51.560 because they thought it was only them.
00:27:53.720 But once that last plane over Pennsylvania,
00:27:58.520 they were able to get messages to and from their people, their families on the ground.
00:28:07.040 And once they found out, no, we are just one of many planes being taken down,
00:28:12.400 they knew they had to act.
00:28:19.140 They had to stand together. Let's roll.
00:28:23.720 That's heroic.
00:28:31.520 We have a responsibility. You have a responsibility to record facts.
00:28:38.400 So at some point, people can be held responsible.
00:28:41.660 For instance, I am waiting.
00:28:43.660 I am waiting for this government to hold George Soros responsible
00:28:48.340 for what he has done to the freedom of the West.
00:28:52.460 There are several countries that will not allow his NGOs in.
00:28:57.100 He's not welcome in several countries.
00:29:00.080 They know exactly what he's done.
00:29:02.420 They know what he's capable of.
00:29:04.100 They know what he really is trying to do, no matter what he says.
00:29:08.600 And we just accept it.
00:29:11.300 He's doing it to our cities, to our children.
00:29:17.420 He's helping these prosecutors turn our country into a hellhole,
00:29:23.160 a hellscape, a murder scene.
00:29:25.900 And we don't do anything about it.
00:29:29.080 I'm not calling for vengeance and I'm not calling for violence.
00:29:32.480 I am calling for justice.
00:29:34.340 I'm calling for common sense.
00:29:37.360 We must, as a nation, stand against what he is doing.
00:29:42.160 And he's not alone.
00:29:43.460 The Code Pink thing.
00:29:44.700 They were out trying to disrupt President Trump and J.D. Vance and Marco Rubio.
00:29:49.680 Pete Hegseth was there, other officials.
00:29:52.500 They were having dinner.
00:29:55.360 And they, you know, they're marching out in front and they're trying to, you know,
00:29:59.620 do everything they can to disrupt everything.
00:30:02.700 They're chanting, they feast while Gaza starves.
00:30:06.500 Free D.C., free Palestine.
00:30:09.280 Stop terrorizing communities all over the world.
00:30:12.260 Shut up.
00:30:12.920 You know, if you were honest, maybe, maybe I could tolerate it.
00:30:18.900 But you're not.
00:30:20.520 You're not.
00:30:22.360 You haven't been honest in anything that you've done.
00:30:25.320 And beyond that, you are funded by the Chinese Communist Party through Neville Singham.
00:30:35.400 Why aren't we going after him?
00:30:38.160 Why aren't we as a nation shutting things down?
00:30:41.200 And I'm not saying opinions.
00:30:43.780 You can have an opinion.
00:30:45.400 You can march in the street.
00:30:47.100 You can say things that I vehemently disagree with.
00:30:50.380 But when you are funding organizations who intent, their intent is to cause revolution in our country,
00:30:59.740 don't we have a responsibility?
00:31:01.560 We as citizens must document who these people are, how they're doing it.
00:31:09.140 And then we must call for accountability.
00:31:12.220 And our government must act.
00:31:14.020 Otherwise, it ends the way it's ending now on the other side of the globe.
00:31:18.920 I want to bring you a story that you probably didn't even pay attention to if you even heard it yesterday.
00:31:24.840 But it is a very important story because it relates right directly back to you and us.
00:31:35.000 This is the best of the Glenn Beck Program.
00:31:38.080 Well, hello, Stu, our executive producer.
00:31:48.100 And also, hello to our chief researcher, Jason Buttrell.
00:31:53.460 Hi, Stu.
00:31:54.020 Glenn, how are you?
00:31:55.700 You know, I'm torn on how I feel about the people on the train.
00:32:03.620 Because my first instinct is they did nothing.
00:32:09.560 They did nothing.
00:32:11.900 Then my, well, sit down and, you know, you're going to be judged.
00:32:19.320 So be careful on judging others.
00:32:22.180 What would I have done?
00:32:23.880 What would I want my wife to do in that situation?
00:32:27.660 Yeah, those are two different questions, by the way.
00:32:29.800 I think they go far apart from each other.
00:32:32.700 I mean, what would I want myself to do?
00:32:34.980 I mean, it's tough to put yourself in that situation.
00:32:36.660 It's very easy to watch a video on the Internet and talk about your heroism.
00:32:41.840 Like, everybody can do that very easily on Twitter, and everyone is.
00:32:46.000 You know, when you're in a vehicle that doesn't have an exit with a guy who just murdered someone in front of you,
00:32:53.200 has a dripping, you know, blood off of a knife that's standing 10 feet away from you, 15 feet away from you,
00:33:00.560 there is probably a different standard there.
00:33:02.700 That we should all kind of consider and maybe give a little grace to what I saw at least was a woman sitting across the aisle.
00:33:12.540 I think there is a difference there.
00:33:14.420 But when you talk about that question, I think those two questions are definitive.
00:33:17.860 You know, I know what I would want myself to do.
00:33:20.120 I'd hope I'd act in a way that didn't completely embarrass myself afterward.
00:33:27.080 But I also think when I'm thinking of my wife, my advice to my wife would not be to jump into the middle of that situation at all costs.
00:33:36.660 Now, she might do it anyway.
00:33:37.720 She's actually, you know, probably a heck of a lot stronger than I am.
00:33:41.360 But she might do it anyway.
00:33:45.000 How pathetic, but how true.
00:33:46.480 Yes.
00:33:47.280 That would not be my advice to her.
00:33:49.580 You know, now maybe, you know, once the guy has certainly is out of the area and you don't think the moment you step into that situation,
00:33:57.800 he's going to turn around and decide to kill you too, then, of course, obviously anything you could do to step in.
00:34:02.700 Not that I think there was much anyone on the train could do.
00:34:06.380 I mean, I don't think that there was an outcome change no matter what anyone on that train did, unfortunately.
00:34:13.920 But would I want her to step in?
00:34:15.600 Well, of course, if she really, if she felt she was safe, yes.
00:34:18.240 But, man, I mean, think about, you said your wife.
00:34:20.940 Think about your daughter.
00:34:22.520 Your daughter's on that train just watching someone else get murdered like that.
00:34:27.100 Would you advise your daughter to jump into a situation like that?
00:34:31.260 That girl sitting across the aisle with somebody's daughter.
00:34:34.700 I don't know, man.
00:34:35.280 I would, you know, as a dad, would I advise?
00:34:41.920 No.
00:34:43.340 As a human being, would I hope that my daughter or my wife or that I would get up and at least comfort that woman while she's dying on the floor of a train?
00:34:55.600 Then, yeah, I would hope that my daughter, my son, that I would.
00:35:02.040 And, you know, I have more confidence in my son or daughter or my wife doing something courageous more than I would.
00:35:08.620 But, you know, I think I have a more realistic picture of myself than anybody else.
00:35:14.500 And I'm not sure that, I'm not sure what I would do in that situation.
00:35:18.180 I know what I would hope I would do, but I also know what I fear I would do.
00:35:22.780 But I would hope that I would have gotten up and at least tried to help her, you know, help her up off the floor, at least be there with her as she's seeing her life, you know, spill out in under a minute.
00:35:39.220 And that's the other thing we have to keep in mind.
00:35:42.040 Yeah.
00:35:42.200 This all happens so rapidly.
00:35:44.660 A minute will seem like a very long period of time in that situation, but it's a very short period of time in real life.
00:35:53.880 Yeah.
00:35:54.300 You watch the video, Glenn.
00:35:55.720 I, you know, I don't need the video to change my position on this.
00:36:01.600 Uh, but it does seem like there was a, uh, someone who did get there eventually to help, right?
00:36:08.980 Like I saw someone seemingly trying to put pressure on her neck.
00:36:11.580 They tried to, yeah.
00:36:12.580 Yeah.
00:36:12.800 And tried to give her CPR and it, you know.
00:36:14.680 Yeah.
00:36:15.340 No hope at that point.
00:36:16.880 But how long of a time period would you say that was?
00:36:19.440 Do you know off the top of your head?
00:36:21.180 I don't know.
00:36:22.340 I don't know.
00:36:23.140 I know that we watched, um, the video that I saw.
00:36:27.140 I haven't seen past 30 seconds after she, uh, is down.
00:36:34.380 Um, and you know, for 30 seconds, nothing is happening.
00:36:38.260 And you know, that's, that is a, that is not a very long period of time.
00:36:43.320 Right.
00:36:43.800 In reality.
00:36:44.960 Especially, I saw the pace he was walking.
00:36:47.800 He certainly can't be, you know, he may have left the actual, uh, train car by 30 seconds to a minute,
00:36:56.060 but he wasn't that far away.
00:36:57.500 Like he was still in visual, he could still turn around and look and see the, you know,
00:37:01.380 what's going on, uh, at that point.
00:37:03.400 So certainly still a threat, I guess is my point.
00:37:05.620 He's not, he has not like left the area.
00:37:08.020 This is not that type of situation.
00:37:10.160 You know, I, I, I look, as you point out, I think, you know, if I could be super duper sexist for a moment here,
00:37:17.400 sort of my dividing line might just be, uh, men and women.
00:37:21.720 You know, I, I don't know if it's, if that's a, uh, you're not supposed to say that, I suppose, these days,
00:37:28.180 but like, you know, there is a difference there.
00:37:29.960 And, you know, if I'm a man, if I'm a man, you know, I would be, I would want my son to jump in on that,
00:37:35.000 I suppose, you know, I, I don't know if he could do anything about it, but you'd expect a, at least a grown man
00:37:41.660 to be able to go in there and do something about it.
00:37:43.740 A woman, you know, I don't know, maybe, uh, maybe I'm, um, uh,
00:37:49.000 You know, here's the thing I don't, here's the thing that I, I, that causes me to say,
00:37:54.580 no, you should have jumped in.
00:37:56.200 And that is, you know, you've already killed one person on the train.
00:38:01.120 Um, so you've proven that you're a killer and anybody who would have screamed and got up
00:38:06.760 and was with her in there, she's dying, she's dying, get him, get him.
00:38:10.620 Then the whole train is responsible for stopping that guy, you know?
00:38:15.040 Um, and if you don't stop him after he's killed one person, if you're not all as members of that
00:38:21.900 train, if you're not stopping him, uh, you know, the person at the side of that girl would be the
00:38:32.660 least likely to be killed.
00:38:35.320 It'd be the ones that are standing up and trying to stop him from getting back to your daughter or
00:38:40.580 your wife or you.
00:38:41.660 So there was a, uh, speaking of men and women's and their roles in this, there was a video that
00:38:46.260 was circling social media yesterday, uh, Sweden in Sweden.
00:38:50.520 It was a group of officials up on a stage and one of like the main, I think it was like a health
00:38:54.540 official woman collapses on stage, completely passes out.
00:38:59.200 All the men kind of look away or I don't know if they were looking away or pretending like they
00:39:02.840 didn't know what was going on.
00:39:03.820 There was another woman standing directly beside the woman that passed out, immediately springs
00:39:07.980 into action, jumps on top, grabs her pant leg, grabs her shoulder, spins her over and starts,
00:39:12.920 uh, providing care.
00:39:14.840 What did she have that the other guys did not or women?
00:39:17.860 She was a sheepdog.
00:39:19.720 There is a set.
00:39:21.420 And this is my issue.
00:39:22.100 And I completely agree with Stu.
00:39:23.380 I completely agree with you.
00:39:24.380 There's some people that do not respond this way.
00:39:26.700 My issue is the proportion of sheepdogs versus just people that don't really know how to react.
00:39:31.360 That is diminishing in Western society and American society.
00:39:35.260 We see it all the time in these critical actions.
00:39:39.420 I mean, uh, circumstances, there are men and women and there's, it's actually a meme that
00:39:44.580 fantasize about hordes of people coming to attack their home and family.
00:39:49.300 And they sit there and say, I got it.
00:39:52.000 You guys go.
00:39:53.380 I'm staying behind while I smoke my cigarette and wait for the hordes to come because I will
00:39:57.020 sacrifice myself.
00:39:58.060 There are men and women that fantasize of block my highway, go ahead, block my highway.
00:40:04.980 I'm going to do something about it.
00:40:06.320 They fantasize about someone holding up a liquor store, not a liquor store, a convenience
00:40:10.980 store or something because they will step in and do something.
00:40:14.260 My issue now is that proportion of sheepdogs in society is disappearing.
00:40:19.900 Just on statistical fact, there should be one within that train car and there were none.
00:40:27.180 Yeah, I mean, they did not respond.
00:40:29.260 And we see what happens when they do with Daniel Penny, right?
00:40:31.860 Like our society vilifies them and tries to crush their existence.
00:40:36.260 Now there weren't that many people on the train, right?
00:40:38.760 Like at least on that car, all I could see in the pictures, and again, it's limited, but
00:40:42.680 I only saw maybe three or four people there.
00:40:44.980 There may have been more.
00:40:46.500 Um, I agree with you though.
00:40:47.600 Like you see what happens when we actually do have a really recent example of someone
00:40:52.700 doing exactly what Jason wants and what I would want, you know, a guy to do, especially
00:40:57.460 a Marine to step up and stop this from happening.
00:41:01.060 And the man was dragged by our legal system to a position where he nearly had to spend
00:41:06.300 the rest of his life in prison.
00:41:07.500 I mean, I, it's insanity.
00:41:10.640 Thankfully, we came to our senses on that.
00:41:13.080 The difference between that one and this one though, is that, um, the guy was threatening.
00:41:20.000 Yeah.
00:41:20.580 This one, he killed somebody.
00:41:24.340 Right.
00:41:25.000 Well, the, you know, going in and I think that, but it's the opposite way.
00:41:27.920 I mean, the, the debate with Penny was, should he have recognized that this person might've
00:41:33.320 just been crazy and not done anything?
00:41:34.920 Maybe he hadn't actually acted yet.
00:41:37.400 He was just saying things and, you know, he didn't, he didn't wind up stabbing someone.
00:41:42.520 This is a situation where these people have already seen what this man will do to you,
00:41:47.360 even when you don't do anything to try to stop him.
00:41:50.400 So if, if this woman who's, you know, again, looks to be a, uh, an average American woman
00:41:56.520 across the aisle, steps in and tries to do something, he, this guy could easily turn around
00:42:01.700 and, and just make another pile of dead bodies next to the one that already exists.
00:42:07.540 And I, you know, whether that is a, an optimal solution for our society, I don't, I don't
00:42:13.840 know that that, that, that's helpful in that situation.
00:42:16.920 Uh, Sarah, can you go to yesterday's sound sheet and see if you can find from yesterday,
00:42:24.380 we didn't get a chance to play it, a guy in England who is it, was it Tommy Robinson?
00:42:29.680 Is he the guy who's in and out of jail?
00:42:31.820 Yeah.
00:42:32.040 Okay.
00:42:32.740 So Tommy Robinson, there was a, um, there was a protest in his favor and, uh, you know,
00:42:40.480 the police were called and they were trying to arrest people.
00:42:43.220 And there was one guy who was talking to, I don't know, a reporter or just a podcaster
00:42:48.900 or somebody.
00:42:50.180 And, um, and he was asked, you know, how can you stand here?
00:42:54.740 And you don't, you don't, you're not even wearing a mask.
00:42:57.700 So they're going to come to your house and get you.
00:43:00.660 So are we seeing fewer of these or more of these type of people?
00:43:05.080 Listen to this guy interviewed in the streets, um, in England.
00:43:09.280 Well, you know, trouble is all around him.
00:43:12.040 Listen to him.
00:43:12.560 I don't hide my opinions.
00:43:14.500 I'm a man.
00:43:15.440 Why would I hide who I am?
00:43:17.140 Why would I say I'm ashamed of my nation or my people?
00:43:20.380 If I put a mask on my face, I'm saying I'm wrong.
00:43:23.840 I'm saying I'm ideologically faulted.
00:43:26.200 That's what that means.
00:43:27.720 I'm an Englishman.
00:43:28.660 I don't wear a mask.
00:43:29.900 I show my face.
00:43:30.700 I say my name.
00:43:31.760 I say, come and get me because I'm correct.
00:43:34.980 That's all that matters.
00:43:36.040 Wars aren't won by soldiers.
00:43:37.560 Wars are won by thoughts.
00:43:39.700 Wars are won by ideology, by heart.
00:43:42.380 Not by the moral high ground.
00:43:44.900 Not by soldiers.
00:43:46.060 Soldiers fight the battles.
00:43:47.720 And good for them.
00:43:48.520 Obviously, I support them.
00:43:50.360 But that's not the thing that wins a war.
00:43:52.540 Winning a war comes from moral certainty.
00:43:56.040 And that's what England's got.
00:43:57.520 Moral certainty.
00:43:58.900 And that's what all these people have.
00:44:00.740 Moral certainty.
00:44:01.980 They know they're civilized.
00:44:03.860 They know that they gave that to the world.
00:44:06.180 They know that they are free.
00:44:08.580 And everybody in the entire world has a debt of gratitude to every Englishman for their freedom.
00:44:14.760 So, no.
00:44:15.640 I don't hide my face.
00:44:16.820 I don't hide my name.
00:44:18.060 And I sure as hell aren't ashamed to talk on your camera.
00:44:22.160 Isn't that great?
00:44:23.680 I mean, that's just awesome.
00:44:25.340 That is awesome.
00:44:26.660 Are we seeing more of these people or fewer of those people?
00:44:29.720 Fewer.
00:44:30.560 By far.
00:44:31.680 And that's what concerns me.
00:44:33.260 When the amount or the proportion of sheepdogs diminishes and they go away, never ends well for society.
00:44:40.160 I will tell you, though, at the same time, we saw none of these people five years ago.
00:44:44.580 We saw no one like that five years ago.
00:44:49.240 Now you're seeing them all over the world.
00:44:51.900 And, again, you know, the proportion is you're probably right.
00:44:55.840 I mean, we're seeing uprisings all over the world.
00:44:58.380 And we're seeing, you know, there are thousands of people behind him.
00:45:01.100 You know, and here's one guy.
00:45:03.140 But you're also seeing a UK that is well further advanced than we are.
00:45:10.320 So, where they're at.
00:45:11.280 UK is over.
00:45:11.800 Oh, yeah.
00:45:12.260 And where they are, that's the direction they're pushing us in.
00:45:16.240 I mean, I'm supposed to bring my daughter or my granddaughter.
00:45:25.420 When my grandkids turn 12, I've told them, I'll take you.
00:45:31.040 I'll take you to see something that you want to see.
00:45:33.360 Wherever you want to see it, whatever you want to see, I'll take you.
00:45:36.600 Grandpa and I, Grandpa and you will go and see and I'll take you someplace.
00:45:41.160 And my granddaughter wants to go to Paris.
00:45:43.600 And I'm supposed to take her.
00:45:44.740 Her birthday is this month.
00:45:47.940 And I'm supposed to take her sometime, you know, on a school break.
00:45:52.840 And I keep wondering, I mean, is it going to make it?
00:45:57.740 Can we go to Paris?
00:45:59.380 Can we go to France and see it and be safe?
00:46:02.880 How long does France have before it just falls into a sinkhole?
00:46:07.440 You know, the same with England.
00:46:08.800 I'm more concerned about England.
00:46:10.300 England is.
00:46:11.020 Because the people there are pushing back.
00:46:13.940 They're not pushing back.
00:46:14.980 In France, they're pushing back because France is, you know, the government is saying,
00:46:19.340 we're going to cut some of your holidays.
00:46:20.700 You're going to have to work more.
00:46:22.860 And that's why they're in the streets.
00:46:24.740 In England, they're in the streets because they know their country is being taken from them.
00:46:29.620 They know that the government is violating all of the most basic rights that an Englishman has.
00:46:37.860 And that's why they're standing up and pushing back.
00:46:40.120 And I'm very concerned because the police are not backing down.
00:46:46.120 You know, they just, the governments just keep pouring more fuel on these fires.