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00:00:08.100 tuck and shove or whatever the transgender underwear that the that the uh the the white

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00:02:09.960 welcome to the blend back program let's welcome congressman thomas massey thomas how'd you have

00:02:20.420 how was your sleep last night i bet you slept like a baby i i slept like a baby i cried for two hours

00:02:27.920 and i slept for two hours oh my gosh first of all how does your office go through a bill like this

00:02:39.000 uh we call it control f control f that sucker which is you know the hotkey for searching it

00:02:46.920 finding things in it and now not only do you have to search the bill text there are addendums that

00:02:53.040 aren't even in the bill that are just as long as the bill that lists things like the year marks so

00:02:58.440 you've got to go get other documents to find out what's in it

00:03:01.060 are people going to vote for this you know it's a there's a real question of whether a majority of

00:03:11.020 republicans will vote for it i i think almost every democrat is going to vote for it and that

00:03:15.860 in itself should be damning uh some of the earmarks that we see in it are funding venues that have drag

00:03:23.440 shows drag queen shows that include children uh training for how to transition without uh consent

00:03:31.680 of parents involved all the way down to ages 13 proms gay proms for ages 12 to 18 uh with rooms off to

00:03:41.680 the side in case it's just too much out there at the prom uh just crazy stuff in this

00:03:48.640 uh well it'd be interesting to see uh what do you think about uh johnson's handling of all of this

00:03:58.320 i mean i thought this was what we were fighting against well you know he's our general but i think

00:04:04.280 he's been captured by by the swamp uh i don't you know we had lots of options here we had the thing

00:04:11.800 in law it's still in law it will be gone after today but it's still in law uh the one percent

00:04:18.500 automatic cut if we just did a cr if we just did a cr past april 30th all of the programs get cut

00:04:25.680 one percent and nobody gets an earmark that should that should have been the speaker's default position

00:04:31.620 and he should have drugged these sobs past april 30th and into that condition and then he could

00:04:36.980 have negotiated that they these guys would run over their own mother to get their earmarks he could

00:04:42.360 have negotiated some stupid little earmarks to get some border security or something

00:04:46.640 well speaking of border security i mean yesterday was pretty good right i mean look at all the look

00:04:54.820 at all the young women and families and children that came uh scuttling across our border yesterday

00:05:01.040 i thought they did it with respect uh and especially all those nursing babies

00:05:07.320 it's so demoralizing to see people in u.s uniforms uh being overrun and given terms of engagement to

00:05:17.720 basically say surrender to the invaders uh it was demoralizing for our country

00:05:23.220 and it's demoralizing for the troops these guys if you're going to put them in harm's way

00:05:30.500 let them do what they're supposed to do and defend themselves this is now the national guard at the

00:05:37.900 border means nothing it was a photo op the whole time if they can't do what they're supposed to do

00:05:45.660 then pull their asses out and i'm directing that to greg abbott yeah amen uh and we honestly we should

00:05:54.600 have our own forces there at the border stopping this but they need to have rules of engagement that

00:06:00.240 aren't as you said just photo op rules of engagement it makes our country look weak and

00:06:06.320 it just invites more people to come to the border why are we giving what is it 500 how much did i say

00:06:13.800 that was stew hundreds of millions of dollars to jordan and egypt uh to be able to protect their

00:06:22.580 borders why are we paying for that it makes no sense there's also 300 million in this omnibus

00:06:29.880 for ukraine you know i wanted to have you on today to talk about your resolution your resolution

00:06:44.900 um your your your uh amendment that you want to add to the constitution which i mean it has no chance of

00:06:55.100 passing uh thomas because there's no common sense anymore and the press i saw when you when you uh

00:07:02.480 suggested this i'm all in and the press ran headlines like gop now wants to control your food

00:07:11.500 what right what or that i'm for listeria and e coli or something like that look what i did is i threw

00:07:22.100 out there a constitutional amendment and i put a little bit of thought into it because when i the

00:07:28.060 basically a constitutional amendment that guarantees your right to be able to grow food and to purchase

00:07:33.040 food from the sources that you want because right now we've descended into this corptocracy where four

00:07:40.580 companies control all the meat a few cooperatives control all the milk uh you we see amish farmers

00:07:48.100 just living off the land selling to people going to to jail uh having all their food confiscated

00:07:54.300 our founding fathers i don't think ever contemplated this getting to this point and so they didn't put

00:07:59.680 this in the bill of rights because it was just too obvious uh but i think that's we need something

00:08:06.060 like this now you know i ran it by mike lee before i threw it up there on social media i'm looking for

00:08:13.360 democrat co-sponsor because i think that's key and it's hard to draft the constitutional amendment

00:08:18.880 that doesn't do something accidental for instance my first version right i i thought man this is great

00:08:25.580 and i read it and i'm like no the left is going to say this guarantees your everybody's right to food

00:08:30.100 stamps and that's not what i want to do so so this actually stems from this this amish guy who's been

00:08:39.960 arrested is being hassled by the i don't know fda fbi i don't know some three-letter agency that now

00:08:48.820 you know thinks that they can you know go in with a swat team to an amish farmer and this is ridiculous

00:08:57.560 it's absolutely ridiculous it is ridiculous and this is they've harassed him multiple times this time

00:09:06.120 i believe it's over milk sales before it was over beef he's not the only amish person there are other

00:09:12.860 ones who are being prosecuted there's a guy i think it's samuel fisher in virginia who's being

00:09:18.360 prosecuted and so i came up with this amendment and let me read it it's pretty short the right of the

00:09:24.220 people to grow food and to purchase food from the source of their choice shall not be infringed and

00:09:29.800 congress shall make no law regulating the production and distribution of food products

00:09:34.280 which do not move across state lines it's a it's a very tight and compact uh amendment but it covers

00:09:43.340 a lot of things in there first of all i'm trying to basically get the feds out of the meat processing

00:09:49.780 that's that's local that's just intrastate that's what the second clause is about congress shall make

00:09:56.020 no law regulating the production and distribution of food products uh and you know it's a shame i have to

00:10:02.820 do that but anyways there's we got this big meat oligopoly that's enabled and enhanced by the usda

00:10:09.160 the over regulation they just regulate all the little guys out of it but the first clause here

00:10:14.840 the right of people to grow food you know you have a right to political speech for instance whatever

00:10:20.380 you know your city or can do an ordinance and whatever but they can't keep you from putting a sign

00:10:25.560 up in your yard saying who you're going to vote for i think you should be able to grow tomatoes

00:10:29.900 without getting thrown out of your house for instance uh and then one other thing that this

00:10:35.420 amendment covers your ability to purchase food from the source of your choice now this is the people who

00:10:43.140 bought food from amos miller in pennsylvania they did cross state lines but that food did cross state

00:10:49.360 lines i'm told but they the people who bought it knew what they were buying and you should never be

00:10:55.900 deprived of the ability to have a contract between two consenting adults to purchase food

00:11:01.900 no no i disagree with you to purchase food you can have just a uh contract with one human adult

00:11:11.880 to another human adult that's ridiculous we need to start mutilating our children without parental

00:11:19.040 consent what is wrong with you thomas massey we should be focusing on the mutilation of our children

00:11:25.720 and mutilate them some more without any adult supervision at all just the government telling

00:11:32.020 us what to do i'm sorry i i forgot he i'm sorry i forgot the key to good health is always multiple

00:11:39.140 vaccines and mind controlling drugs yeah i'm sorry go ahead i've got off the narrative here perfect

00:11:46.020 i know um i i i i have to tell you that when i saw that you said that you know you can't do it over

00:11:53.780 state lines i thought to myself and maybe mike talked to you about this i mean you're you're smart

00:11:58.080 enough to know this is what the commerce clause this is what threw the commerce clause under the

00:12:02.460 bus that you know they regulate all commerce uh but it was supposed to be between states but it

00:12:08.980 happened because of wheat and they said well you know that wheat it it you know it's pollen kind of

00:12:15.420 goes in the air and goes across state lines so we have to regulate that now so how are you thinking

00:12:21.300 you're going to get this across well and and this is actually to countermand that horrible supreme

00:12:27.600 court decision where they said a guy couldn't grow his own wheat and feed it to his own animals

00:12:31.820 because if he grew his own wheat he wasn't buying wheat in interstate commerce and so that he was

00:12:38.520 affecting interstate commerce by introducing more wheat into the overall supply even though none of it

00:12:44.040 crossed state lines and so that's what it was you're right yeah and this is to to countermand

00:12:51.200 that horrible decision that the supreme court made and uh and that's why i said you know food

00:12:59.240 products which do not move across state lines instead of saying interstate commerce we have to

00:13:04.940 physically say if it's not going across state lines then it's not state commerce and that that supreme

00:13:11.400 court decision if people want to look it up was wickard v filburn yes wickard v filburn that that is such

00:13:19.140 i it's been years since i've read it that court case changed everything and uh you know i don't

00:13:25.380 know if i don't know if we can get congress to pass anything um anymore but uh thank you for the

00:13:32.300 common sense on this and the bill you're you're not voting for the bill right oh heck no by the way

00:13:38.840 but i think it was mike lee suggested i could name my constitutional amendment roscoe filburn's uh revenge

00:13:45.400 all right thomas thank you so much god bless you thank you that would have been a uh fun like m night

00:13:56.280 shamalan twist if he voted for the bill at the end of that interview he's like yeah no i'm totally

00:14:01.400 no i mean what are you gonna do you know gotta pass it so otherwise the world melts down and i think by

00:14:08.400 the way we should know i think that was perhaps the nerdiest joke ever made on the show the roscoe

00:14:14.160 filburn reference i think that was and i give i applaud thomas massey that is perhaps it's not

00:14:19.980 often he's writing it in his diary today i i had a chance to use that joke today uh why make the

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00:15:45.760 another horse on the highway yes horses on the highway this is a horse galloping down i-76 in philadelphia

00:15:56.080 beautiful racehorse no idea how it found an on-ramp but it did uh and that's kind of what the world we

00:16:04.920 live in gee haven't seen this one before now what i'm going to show you here is um is something we

00:16:11.460 haven't seen before but it's not just a horse on the highway it's a horse on the highway with a

00:16:16.900 chimpanzee holding braveheart sword on top of the horse on the highway this is something you've never

00:16:25.560 heard before you remember uh the ccp the chinese communist party linked company named goshen

00:16:33.920 we talked about it i don't know a while back they um the town council had made some agreement

00:16:42.900 with this communist party company goshen to come in and build this huge factory in their town

00:16:49.120 well the the uh the board didn't actually talk to the people about it what they had was a

00:16:56.400 developmental agreement a development agreement and uh it was supposed to be ratified but by the time

00:17:02.560 that it came out to the public uh and the public heard about it they kicked and and got all of the

00:17:11.120 members off of that board evicted they were all recalled but now that's the horse on the highway

00:17:19.060 here is the monkey with the broadsword on top so the communist party of china is now suing this

00:17:28.480 american township for breach of contract so we have the communists suing their way in to a town in america

00:17:39.060 well okay so what else is new bruce baker is here he is from uh micosta environmental and security

00:17:49.620 alliance he's the president of that and he has all the details on this uh wow bruce i've never heard

00:17:56.980 anything like this you're right glenn and thanks first of all thanks for having me on the the show i it's

00:18:03.560 an honor to be talking with you and i i appreciate this opportunity to bring this forward thank you

00:18:09.660 you're you're right yes uh you're right though um there was a a development agreement that was in my

00:18:18.800 view uh improperly executed between goshen and the prior the old township board in particular

00:18:27.600 not even really with the board just with the supervisor and then attested by the the clerk and

00:18:34.860 so um what happened was um the township supervisor was working on this development agreement um with

00:18:44.480 goshen and he brought what was called a first draft of the development agreement to an august 1st

00:18:52.480 meeting of the board they discussed the first draft and then but it wasn't complete first draft like a

00:18:58.860 rough draft not complete so the board approved for the supervisor to continue working with goshen

00:19:05.880 the ccp tide ev and whatever uh lithium battery company um to continue uh working with goshen to

00:19:16.500 finalize that development agreement and and it wasn't just some small minor uh finalizing it was

00:19:23.860 the terms and conditions is what they approved for him to finalize that right okay and so and then

00:19:30.900 obviously you know glenn you would need okay you have a rough or first draft they say supervisor go

00:19:36.460 finalize it with the company goshen and then of course bring that back in a final version so that the

00:19:42.960 board and the public can review it and so that they can then vote that the board in a public

00:19:49.080 meeting can vote on it that never happened well i mean even the communist even the communist state

00:19:55.100 of michigan has an open meetings act don't they i mean where you have to have everything done in

00:20:01.300 public yes okay the open in the michigan statue open meetings act requires this is a public body the

00:20:08.880 township board is a public body they're required to have all decisions discussions and votes

00:20:16.100 made in a public forum in a public meeting you know with proper notification all that so what happened

00:20:22.120 glenn is just three weeks after the board told jim chapman the the then supervisor and by the way he was

00:20:30.080 under a recall um process at that time he was up he was wow a month for real so he was he's trying

00:20:37.740 to jam this thing through and they had lots of pressure on him to jam this thing through why

00:20:42.540 because goshen wouldn't get 125 million dollars of michigan cip grant money if they didn't have oh my

00:20:51.660 gosh so they knew they had to jam before they got pulled before they you know potentially were going

00:20:58.400 to get you know thrown out of office which is exactly what happened all five of the eligible board

00:21:03.860 members did get recalled and thrown out of office and replaced but anyways so three weeks so they

00:21:10.980 reviewed the the um first draft of the agreement on august 1st and then on august 22nd jim chapman

00:21:19.100 signed a final agreement and who was the other signer on there chen lee the president of goshen okay i i

00:21:27.540 believe he's a ccp member himself but or lee chen chen lee anyways he signed it jim chapman signed it

00:21:35.560 the clerk attested to jim's signature so there's three signatures on the document but this was on august

00:21:42.000 22nd there was no meeting between no meeting of the board between august 1st and august 22nd and so um

00:21:52.580 so that final document never came back to the board for discussion for review for public comment

00:22:00.100 i mean that's the most important thing this is a board that's supposed to be working for the people

00:22:04.260 but instead they do this behind the scenes backdoor deal um to get this thing signed why because there's

00:22:10.840 a lot of money writing on it right and they just want it done you know jim chapman and the old board

00:22:15.980 and uh they they were kind of characterized by not listening to the public they they repeatedly the

00:22:25.900 public asked just do a survey get the public's opinion about this goshen they refused to every

00:22:31.360 surrounding township did surveys regarding this goshen plant but green charter township under the old

00:22:37.800 board refused to even do a survey all of the surveys they came back 60 70 80 percent that they didn't

00:22:44.940 want the goshen facility here and even an outside company came in and did a survey in green township

00:22:50.740 and that came back like 80 90 percent people didn't want that ocean plant there it's it's not like a

00:22:56.880 small little band of people who are saying you know we don't want this it's it's the vast majority

00:23:03.060 but the old board they had kind of gotten brainwashed or gaslighted or well no they're just

00:23:10.320 they're just doing it the way they're just doing it the way china does it which is you know one man

00:23:16.560 he signs everything he makes all the decisions that's i mean that's the way you do it in china

00:23:21.160 why not here so what's going to happen they've taken you to court what's going to happen here

00:23:27.400 did did goshen get the money from the state okay so that's a great question they got 23.4 23.6

00:23:36.720 million dollars so not all of the 125 million okay the so the development agreement was put in place

00:23:43.640 but i allege that it was improperly put in place okay it was signed but we believe that's a void

00:23:50.040 invalid document and so they did get goshen received over 23 million dollars to purchase land

00:23:56.620 now the state of michigan if this if that development agreement is is invalid the state of

00:24:01.220 michigan holds a mortgage on that land and they could theoretically claw that that land back you know

00:24:06.600 but anyways they didn't get the other 100 million yet because they have to hit certain milestones

00:24:10.960 but one of those all of those they tell they hit those milestones they have to have a development

00:24:15.980 agreement in place otherwise they're not even eligible so this federal so that the new board there's a new

00:24:22.680 board um who is is taking steps to um not participate like the old board did not to be as welcoming

00:24:33.740 as the old board did because they ran on a no goshen position and so the new board has said we're not

00:24:40.500 going to support you and so now so but the development agreement says you have to support us

00:24:45.840 okay and so that's what goes ensuing over in federal court right now they're saying the new board you're

00:24:52.520 not supporting us like the development agreement requires you to see the old board was trying to

00:24:59.000 hand tie the new board fortunately they really screwed up and they improperly executed that

00:25:04.800 development agreement so in my view that and many others a lot of attorneys a lot of people who know

00:25:10.380 township and open meeting act law have reviewed this and we believe that that development agreement is

00:25:16.040 invalid and really goshen they're bringing it to federal court that's the first thing that they're

00:25:21.440 asking the judge to rule on is this development agreement valid or not valid and and i you know

00:25:28.780 just have to pray that the that the judge does the right thing the judge stands for the people

00:25:34.620 that who were you know the people are the ones whose rights were trampled you know in this by not

00:25:41.720 following the open meetings act so that the judge would stand with the people and say that no that

00:25:46.780 development agreement is no good you've got to go back to the starting board well i think we're saying

00:25:52.440 the same thing here bruce but i want to make sure i don't want somebody that is a judge is standing with

00:25:56.900 the people i want him to stand with the law and if if uh if there if this is the way it is then that's

00:26:03.660 the way it is um i i can't imagine being goshen wanting to build my plant in a city where it's entirely

00:26:12.100 hostile to me absolutely you know and that's again a great point you know glenn so chuck salen

00:26:18.500 um so he's i believe the vp of northern american operations for goshen so he's the highest

00:26:25.840 goshen guy here he said at a meeting he said well look if the this was earlier on well if the people

00:26:34.020 of the area don't want it in other words the plant if they don't want goshen to build here we'll just go

00:26:40.480 somewhere else well it couldn't be more clear that the people of the community do not want this i

00:26:46.700 mean five surrounding townships all came back with surveys that said they don't we recalled the entire

00:26:52.360 eligible you know the entire board uh you know i don't think i've ever seen that happen right right

00:26:58.740 and then and other surveys have done it's like we've got you know this summer we had hundreds of

00:27:03.940 signs around no goshen and so it's like it's really clear that the community majority there's a

00:27:09.580 handful there's some people who um are for it because they think that they'll sell land at you

00:27:15.660 know way more than it's worth or they'll it'll prop up their business you know i get that you know

00:27:22.480 that's fine but most people just don't want it because the environmental potential you know problems

00:27:28.760 as well as the ccp ties um so anyways uh i'm surprised though that chuck salen wasn't more of a man of

00:27:37.560 his word on that because he says look if the people don't want it here we'll go somewhere else

00:27:42.120 yeah well clearly the people don't want it and they're just digging in their heels and they're

00:27:46.580 just trying to shove it in all right if you want to um help be involved uh when does this go to court

00:27:53.880 that's not that's not known yet i mean there's yeah not known yet but um there's there's gonna be a

00:28:02.160 lot of steps we're working right now okay on declarations you know where individuals are

00:28:07.100 signing declarations um yeah and and there's a lot of work i had to do um we're gonna be filing

00:28:12.380 a demand letter you know mason's gonna be pretty active if somebody wants if somebody wants to help

00:28:17.440 you bruce how do they do it well i think if they went to our our website and i hate to you know be

00:28:22.320 that guy because i know everybody is looking for donations but you know we could spend hundreds of

00:28:26.920 thousands of dollars and not just this fight but other fights against goshen but www.protectmecosta.org

00:28:36.560 and mecosta is m-e-c-o-s-t-a so www.protectmecosta.org or you can just google mesa m-e-s-a you know

00:28:48.580 goshen mesa michigan goshen and it'll come up because we've been pretty active but if you go to

00:28:54.280 our website and donate we're gonna have we're probably gonna end up with hundreds of thousands

00:28:57.680 of hundreds of thousands of dollars of legal costs and um of course you will we need to do right we

00:29:04.520 need to put on you know the fight all right protectmecosta.org you can go there and donate if

00:29:12.620 you can get involved this is first time i've seen a a foreign hostile country take a town in america to

00:29:21.920 court to force them to be able to open up a factory from that communist hostile country

00:29:28.400 it's insane and can't stand bruce baker thank you very much it's protectmecosta.org

00:29:34.920 this is the best of the glenbeck program

00:29:37.980 hello you how are you doing well thank you it's so great to meet you i think you were in studio last

00:29:48.460 week with me and uh your podcast has come out it is fascinating i've just you're a fascinating guy

00:29:54.700 um but i wanted to bring stew in because stew is our he's our client he's our you know climate change

00:30:02.780 skeptic you know he unlike you and me they just think that this whole thing is a sham um and you

00:30:10.920 we were in the hallway afterwards and you you showed me a book that you have on on climate change

00:30:16.200 and i i thought oh i wish i would have asked you come on the show so today's the day let's talk

00:30:22.740 about climate change and global warming yeah well there is a lot of skepticism about global warming

00:30:30.760 i think that skepticism is gone based on some studies that were published a year ago where they

00:30:37.720 basically looked at temperature records not on the continents but a couple of hundred miles offshore

00:30:43.940 all around the world that way you take out the uh elevation effect and uh you're right at sea level

00:30:51.120 uh so uh and it basically shows that the climate has been exceptionally stable from 900 a.d

00:31:01.080 to about 1950 a.d uh stable to within plus or minus 0.06 degrees centigrade it's never happened

00:31:10.160 before in human history it's unique to our time and that's how we were able to launch uh technology

00:31:17.340 and civilization at such a rapid rate uh during that time and what it shows is that the natural

00:31:24.420 cycles are cooling the planet uh they've been cooling the planet since about 9 500 years ago

00:31:31.440 that's been balanced by human activity warming the planet and for 9 500 years they were an almost

00:31:39.420 perfect balance the climate very slowly cooled uh but only by one degree over 9 500 years what's

00:31:48.100 happened since 1950 is human activity has accelerated and so it's now superseding the natural cooling

00:31:56.220 cycles and it's gone up by one degree centigrade in the past 70 years and the concern is if it goes up

00:32:04.540 another degree or two that could melt the winter polar ice cap and if that happens then we bring on

00:32:11.080 global cooling that brings on the next ice age right so this stew see i told you global cooling and global

00:32:22.180 warming was real now uh now hugh uh how does this uh how does this play into humans and what we should

00:32:31.060 be doing do you buy into all of the uh uh uh you know we should put sun umbrellas out

00:32:38.920 uh in space so that's why i wrote the book weathering climate change is to make the point we can

00:32:47.840 restabilize the climate while we boost the world economy we don't need politicians to get involved

00:32:54.380 uh because if you give people strong enough economic incentive they'll do it right away and

00:33:01.140 so i load the book up of all these ways that we can substantially boost the world economy while we

00:33:07.880 stabilize the climate and at the same time enhance the world's ecosystems so that everybody wins there

00:33:15.300 really are win-win solutions out there so give me give me some simple ones that that we could do

00:33:22.920 well a really simple one uh and it's already been implemented in the western nations is to stop

00:33:29.940 burning coal and burn natural gas instead when you do that you release only about half the greenhouse

00:33:36.980 gases that you do with coal there is no particular matter of pollution so you sell you solve a major

00:33:44.080 health crisis but i just wrote an article saying that in parts of india the life expectancy is

00:33:52.160 shortened by eight years that's for 460 million people their life expectancy is shortened uh by

00:33:59.340 eight years because of burning coal instead of natural gas well okay but wait hang on just a second

00:34:06.020 i was just hang on just a second i was with a i was with a scientific you know uh eco guy just the

00:34:14.020 other day and he said no glenn natural gas is just as bad that's why the government is trying to

00:34:20.880 stop all natural gas as well and i'm like dude for years you told us it was the cleanest now you're

00:34:27.420 telling us it's deadly as well well it does release greenhouse gases i don't look at natural gas as a

00:34:35.040 permanent solution but i think it would buy us the time we need uh to come up with what i think is a

00:34:42.000 great solution thorium nuclear reactors thorium nuclear reactors are not like uranium nuclear

00:34:49.280 reactors the radioactive waste is safe to handle after 100 to 200 years instead of 50 000 years

00:34:57.720 it's impossible to have a meltdown you can't use it to make nuclear weapons and it delivers 300 times

00:35:05.260 the energy that you get from uranium and thorium is three times more abundant uh it actually has the

00:35:12.420 potential to deliver electricity for us for much less than what we get from water power which is

00:35:18.360 currently the cheapest source of elect of energy we have on the planet but it's going to take at least

00:35:24.460 a decade to scale it up to where it could supply all of our energy natural gas will buy us that time

00:35:30.900 and in the meantime it cuts greenhouse gas emissions uh by about a half now it's the fastest way we can

00:35:39.080 lower greenhouse gas emissions i mean the problem with solar and wind it's going to take time to scale

00:35:45.020 it up and solar and wind also have ecological consequences that you don't get with thorium and uh so

00:35:52.920 i mean hang on just a second you say it's going to take 10 years to to ramp this up i've never

00:36:00.880 heard of thorium uh i've never heard of a thorium nuclear reactor uh i think it might take a little

00:36:07.880 longer because nobody is talking about that hugh well they are now because i mean for example india is

00:36:16.580 facing a major health crisis uh as i said uh the life expectancy has has now 12 years less if you live

00:36:25.340 in delhi eight years less if you live in the ganges valley for the country as a whole it's five years

00:36:31.860 less and uh and then by the way coal is more expensive than natural gas and so uh and that india

00:36:40.920 actually sits on a lot of thorium and incidentally we had thorium nuclear reactors in the 1960s

00:36:47.940 the reason why we didn't scale them up back then you can't use them to make nuclear weapons

00:36:54.100 but now that's considered an advantage we could actually give nuclear reactors to to rogue countries

00:37:02.000 and not worry that they're going to use it to make nuclear weapons i have a uh i have a woman on

00:37:08.900 next week's podcast she's she's amazing she's this entrepreneur she's a black woman from uh africa

00:37:16.320 and i'm trying to remember what country in africa and she moved to the west when she was young and

00:37:22.360 the first thing she thought was why do they have all of these things that we don't have in africa and

00:37:26.740 one of the things is because you don't have energy you know you're still you're still burning wood uh to

00:37:32.620 cook your food and um she thinks it's she thinks it's uh a little racist of people to tell the the

00:37:40.980 continent of africa you can't have power because of global warming so you're going to be stuck there

00:37:47.440 and we talked about nuclear power nuclear power hydrogen those are the those are the things of

00:37:55.600 the future i think natural gas even but now that's on the no-no list um but i don't think

00:38:02.480 you that there's there's a lot of people uh that are in a part of this movement that are not

00:38:09.200 political now uh and it's it's all about pushing ideas that are very very expensive will cripple

00:38:16.560 everything and uh and wouldn't work well you know if you try to get people to sacrifice their standard

00:38:24.780 of living they're going to find a way to cheat and if they don't somebody else will so that's why i'm

00:38:31.140 convinced we have to give people a strong economic incentive you mentioned africa uh the sahara desert

00:38:38.700 has been expanding because people have been stripping wood off the edge for fuel how about

00:38:44.700 giving the africans all the kerosene they want for free on the promise that they'll work with us to

00:38:50.880 shrink the sahara desert at the time of the roman empire the sahara desert was one-tenth the size that

00:38:57.500 it is today if we were to shrink it number one it would provide an economic income because they could

00:39:03.940 grow grain in what is now the sahara desert it would soak up greenhouse gases so it helps stabilize the

00:39:10.700 climate uh and again everybody wins ecosystem would recover how they have an income they don't have now

00:39:18.000 and we pull greenhouse gases out of the atmosphere so we could do the same thing here in north america

00:39:24.340 yeah go ahead i i just i and i've only got about a minute left but i i grew up hearing that we breathe out

00:39:31.940 uh co2 and the trees breathe it in and they breathe out oxygen and we breathe in oxygen and it was kind

00:39:39.580 of the circle of life thing uh how come we're not really standing on that anymore when when did it

00:39:47.080 become such a problem that it you know uh was killing everything well i'm advocating that we let lumber

00:39:56.100 companies go into our national parks and selectively harvest the big old trees because they don't pull

00:40:02.700 many greenhouse gases of the atmosphere they're in danger of dying and decaying and releasing greenhouse

00:40:08.920 gases replant them with young trees they'll pull greenhouse gases at a factor two to four times more

00:40:16.160 uh the ecosystem will recover because that's healthier for that and you don't we won't be seeing a lot of

00:40:23.480 dead trees in the national forest you're gonna you won't have forest fires right so um but they are

00:40:31.080 now closing all of that off i mean there there are common sense solutions to everything um and we don't

00:40:37.820 seem to hear about them very often hugh ross astrophysicist um uh global warming and what can be done

00:40:46.340 i i his website is reasons.org i i can't tell you uh hugh how much i enjoyed our our conversation the

00:40:53.380 other day about genesis and how everything is explained that genesis actually explains the

00:41:01.980 scientific pattern on how everything is created and i i just found it fascinating thank you so much you

00:41:08.360 well my pleasure thank you you got it um you get that podcast wherever you get your podcasts

00:41:14.740 uh wherever it's available get your podcasts now and tomorrow that one will be available

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