The Glenn Beck Program - December 06, 2023


Best of the Program | Guest: Alex Epstein | 12⧸6⧸23


Episode Stats

Length

42 minutes

Words per Minute

170.50883

Word Count

7,209

Sentence Count

758

Misogynist Sentences

13

Hate Speech Sentences

19


Summary

Glenn Beck joins us on the Glenn Beck Program to talk all things climate change and fossil fuels. Glenn is a conservative commentator, environmental activist, and author of the book "Fossil Future." He's also the founder and president of the Center for Industrial Progress, a think tank dedicated to fighting climate change. Glenn and I talk about how the climate crisis is getting worse and worse every day, and what we can do about it.


Transcript

00:00:00.460 Today's podcast is really just a sadomasochist enjoyment of Stu, really.
00:00:08.260 Stu is just torturing me, an innocent soul, with alcohol the whole time.
00:00:16.480 That's not accurate.
00:00:18.360 That is absolutely...
00:00:19.660 Well, you know, America will hear for themselves.
00:00:22.000 Yes, they will.
00:00:22.680 Yes, they will.
00:00:23.480 They will.
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00:01:07.680 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program.
00:01:21.740 Center for Industrial Progress Founder and President and author of Fossil Future.
00:01:26.120 He's been watching COP28, which, you know, I didn't see 1 through 27, so I didn't really
00:01:34.120 get it, but we wanted to have him come in and fill us in.
00:01:37.680 It's getting more and more insane, isn't it?
00:01:40.140 Yeah.
00:01:40.380 I mean, what's been your kind of observation just looking at it from headlines?
00:01:44.000 I'm curious.
00:01:44.480 My observation is the arrogance is getting out of control.
00:01:51.160 The attitude of the little people must be tamed is sickening.
00:02:02.480 Yeah, I mean, you see these calls.
00:02:06.840 I was just reading this morning.
00:02:08.000 They're considering the draft language.
00:02:09.740 So just so people know, so COP stands for Conference of the Parties, and it's part of
00:02:13.840 what's called the United Nations Framework Concern in Climate Change.
00:02:16.660 They have all these acronyms and everything like that.
00:02:18.940 And then the allegedly scientific basis of this is called the IPCC, Intergovernmental
00:02:23.440 Panel on Climate Change.
00:02:25.060 And this is really the epicenter of the net zero movement.
00:02:28.340 This is where they convene every year.
00:02:29.840 And they always say the same thing, which is we did a decent job restricting fossil
00:02:34.940 fuels, but we really didn't do enough.
00:02:36.920 So this year, we really have to finish the job.
00:02:40.120 And so they start arguing and everyone starts out by saying we should get rid of fossil fuels.
00:02:44.240 That's the starting point.
00:02:45.240 And then some remotely sane people kind of mitigate it.
00:02:49.780 But it still ends up with a totally evil, in my view, conclusion.
00:02:53.220 But right now, they're literally considering that something that says a just and orderly phase
00:02:57.880 out of fossil fuels.
00:02:58.860 That's one option.
00:02:59.840 The second one is...
00:03:01.460 What's a just and orderly?
00:03:03.880 Is that like America should get rid of it first?
00:03:07.780 Yes, exactly.
00:03:08.820 Exactly.
00:03:09.700 So that's the one that's getting headlines right now because the leaders want that.
00:03:17.340 And it's really perverse because the only legitimacy to it is they're recognizing,
00:03:22.980 wait a second, it doesn't make sense for undeveloped countries and developing countries
00:03:26.520 to have net zero policies.
00:03:28.080 They're already a net zero.
00:03:29.200 That's their problem.
00:03:30.180 Yeah, right.
00:03:30.700 Right.
00:03:30.900 That's the issue.
00:03:32.780 But then there's this...
00:03:34.380 And so some African nations are standing up and saying, hey, it's good for us to use
00:03:37.740 fossil fuels.
00:03:38.620 And some are saying it's good for the world to.
00:03:40.740 But then there's this movement, which is often like climate justice or climate reparations,
00:03:44.720 where they say, no, no, Africa gets to use fossil fuels.
00:03:47.180 And then the US needs to stop using fossil fuels by 2030, which can you imagine a worse
00:03:53.040 thing for the world for all the developed economies to be destroyed?
00:03:56.960 That is not going to help anybody.
00:03:59.600 So it's still just this murderous movement.
00:04:02.180 And the key to it is fossil fuel benefit denial.
00:04:04.940 They just ignore the benefits of fossil fuels.
00:04:07.300 They say, we don't like the side effects of fossil fuels on climate, but they ignore
00:04:10.700 the benefits.
00:04:11.280 And it's exactly as if you had an antibiotics conference and they just said, let's get rid
00:04:15.100 of antibiotics.
00:04:15.580 We don't like the side effects.
00:04:17.040 It's like, okay, but that's going to kill billions of people.
00:04:19.600 They're like, we're not going to talk about that.
00:04:21.180 We're just against antibiotic side effects.
00:04:23.660 So tell me what a world looks like without fossil fuels.
00:04:29.600 I mean, there's...
00:04:30.920 You can't describe it to people like the destruction of it, because it would be literally like,
00:04:36.720 let's take their timetable of 2050, which, you know, this is something...
00:04:40.160 This is not an obscure view.
00:04:41.260 This is literally the most popular political idea in the world.
00:04:43.980 I mean, that truly.
00:04:45.580 That we should be net zero by 2050.
00:04:47.880 So that means rapidly eliminate almost all fossil fuel use.
00:04:51.020 We could talk about some of the oil companies are pretending you can capture all the CO2 by
00:04:54.500 2050.
00:04:55.020 That definitely is not true.
00:04:56.240 We could talk about that.
00:04:57.740 So it means rapidly eliminate fossil fuels.
00:05:00.040 But fossil fuels are 80% of the world's energy.
00:05:02.760 They're still growing because they're uniquely cost effective.
00:05:05.280 That's why China is building 300 new coal plants, despite, you know, all the hostility
00:05:09.120 toward fossil fuels.
00:05:10.100 So if you get rid of the most cost effective source of energy in a world where most people
00:05:15.240 use very little energy, and energy is absolutely a requirement for people to survive, let alone
00:05:20.860 flourish, because it allows us to use machines versus using manual labor.
00:05:24.400 That's just the apocalypse.
00:05:26.080 Like, just agriculture.
00:05:27.220 We depend on diesel fuel for machinery, and we depend on natural gas for fertilizer.
00:05:31.240 We cannot feed 8 billion people without that.
00:05:33.100 And these monsters are discussing eliminating fossil fuels full stop, and they're just not
00:05:38.200 thinking about this.
00:05:39.440 I have to tell you, I was watching yesterday.
00:05:41.660 I happened to be standing, waiting for something.
00:05:45.000 And I stood outside, and there was this big, what do you call those?
00:05:49.180 You know, the diggers with the big claws.
00:05:51.400 Excavators.
00:05:52.020 Excavator, yeah.
00:05:52.640 And thank you.
00:05:54.120 Hall of Fame.
00:05:54.960 Reminder, he's in the Hall of Fame.
00:05:56.560 And I'm watching them, and I'm like, this is the greatest boy job ever.
00:06:01.900 I mean, that, I mean, I still, you know, at almost 60, I'm like, I want that job.
00:06:08.800 But I just, I sat there, and I watched it, and I thought, oh, that's going to work with
00:06:12.160 battery power.
00:06:13.360 That's absolutely, I mean, there will be nothing, there will be nothing that is working.
00:06:19.160 And if you get rid of fossil fuels, how do you charge the batteries?
00:06:24.420 So, I think it's important, once you start asking these questions, I think you realize
00:06:28.760 a broader point of mine, which is that the green movement and the green energy movement,
00:06:32.640 they're not an attempt to replace fossil fuels with better energy.
00:06:36.900 There's a deep hostility toward energy as such, because their focus is, let's protect the
00:06:42.660 planet from human impact.
00:06:43.780 That's their basic thing.
00:06:44.740 Human impact is evil, let's protect the planet from it.
00:06:47.120 But if you hate human impact, you have to hate energy, because energy is impact.
00:06:50.340 That's what we do with energy, is we impact the planet.
00:06:53.300 That's, like, we make machines.
00:06:55.220 We spent thousands of years trying to come up with a way to create energy.
00:07:02.860 Thousands of years.
00:07:04.140 We were starving.
00:07:05.100 We were starving to death, freezing to death.
00:07:08.220 Every species wants impact except modern environmentalist humans.
00:07:11.700 Right.
00:07:12.020 How do you convince these dolts that this is suicide?
00:07:18.980 You know, I don't understand.
00:07:20.660 I mean, I do understand that people like John Kerry, they'll be able to have access to everything
00:07:26.840 they need.
00:07:27.620 But these people who are out in the streets picketing, and I mean, are they really that stupid?
00:07:36.500 Have they not done the math on this at all?
00:07:40.240 Well, I think, so some people are truly anti-human, but I don't think that's most people.
00:07:45.980 I think most people, they've just, they haven't even realized that they've been taught to think
00:07:50.100 of something in a totally biased way.
00:07:51.980 Again, ignoring all the benefits of fossil fuels and only looking at the negative side
00:07:55.300 effects.
00:07:55.600 So one thing I do is I just point that out.
00:07:57.080 Hey, with any technology, we need to be even-handed.
00:07:59.620 Look at both benefits and side effects.
00:08:01.820 And then you need to educate them because, for instance, people don't know that fossil fuels
00:08:05.220 are uniquely cost-effective.
00:08:06.500 They're taught the fiction that fossil fuels can be rapidly replaced by solar and wind.
00:08:10.740 They're also taught that our climate-
00:08:12.280 Those are people without solar or wind power at their house.
00:08:14.880 So one of the things, you know, I have this book, Fossil Future, but also a free website,
00:08:18.320 energytalkingpoints.com, and people can search any topic there and they can get very concise,
00:08:23.060 well-referenced points.
00:08:24.740 And that's helping people educate their friends and family.
00:08:27.600 So if you're having discussions during Christmas, just go to energytalkingpoints.com and you can
00:08:31.260 search like solar and wind and you can learn the truth about it.
00:08:34.220 It's not too hard to explain, but the mass media and educational system have just totally
00:08:39.140 made people ignorant.
00:08:41.140 So when they say no more fossil fuels, does that mean no more drilling for it either,
00:08:47.340 right?
00:08:48.080 Well, it's actually worse than that because they make the-
00:08:51.380 Well, because-
00:08:52.180 So no more fossil fuels is essentially a-
00:08:54.400 We're going to stuff people down the oil wells to replace the dinosaurs.
00:08:58.060 Well, but what they do is they make this 2050 target for we have to be net zero, which means
00:09:03.140 we can't add any more CO2 to the atmosphere by 2050, which I think would be the apocalypse
00:09:08.140 if that's what you do.
00:09:10.220 But then what they do in the meantime is they say, it's not like that happens in 2050.
00:09:16.060 They say, well, we need to ban, for example, natural gas infrastructure.
00:09:18.960 So Markey out of Massachusetts, the senator, like he led this push to say no new natural
00:09:25.980 gas infrastructure.
00:09:26.820 He said, we committed to no new natural gas infrastructure by end of 2022, so we should
00:09:31.260 do it.
00:09:31.880 And I'm thinking, wait a second, have you witnessed Europe?
00:09:34.020 Like Europe is afraid of winter now, like it's Game of Thrones, right?
00:09:38.120 There's a shortage of gas in the world.
00:09:40.060 Like Russia invades Ukraine.
00:09:41.360 Everyone is desperate for gas.
00:09:42.780 Bangladesh is having blackouts because they don't have enough gas.
00:09:45.380 And your solution is no new natural gas infrastructure.
00:09:48.900 And also they think they don't understand oil and gas deplete.
00:09:51.900 So you constantly need to build new stuff.
00:09:53.980 Otherwise, you can't even stay at your current level, let alone the larger level that people
00:09:58.340 need around the world.
00:09:59.660 Right.
00:10:00.140 So, but what I'm asking is there are other uses for oil.
00:10:06.200 Yeah.
00:10:07.100 You know, it's our synthetics for our clothing and everything else that comes from oil, the
00:10:12.340 capsules of our drugs.
00:10:13.940 What is, are they saying stop all that too?
00:10:18.300 Well, some of them say like, oh, we can do it for that.
00:10:21.220 But that whole industry is dependent on using it for energy.
00:10:25.240 It's not like it's going to be a totally different thing.
00:10:27.040 Because it's a byproduct.
00:10:27.720 Yeah.
00:10:27.960 So it's, I mean, but the point is the green people are not thinking about energy.
00:10:34.040 Energy is not their focus.
00:10:35.680 Protecting the planet from humans is their focus.
00:10:38.660 So every time you bring up these rational things, it's true, but they're not thinking about
00:10:43.080 that.
00:10:43.320 That's not what they care about.
00:10:44.280 And in a sense, I talk about this in chapter three of fossil future.
00:10:47.540 In a sense, the benefits of fossil fuels are the problem because the benefits of fossil
00:10:52.780 fuels allow the human race to expand for us to have 8 billion people, for us to have
00:10:56.640 a lot of impact.
00:10:57.460 And a lot of these guys say explicitly, we should have 1 billion people or less.
00:11:01.380 Now, think about what that implies in terms of any kind of near-term action.
00:11:05.880 How do you get 8 billion people to 1 billion people?
00:11:08.440 They die.
00:11:09.440 Yeah.
00:11:09.740 And you got to make them die somehow.
00:11:12.860 It is.
00:11:13.980 It's so anti-human.
00:11:16.780 You know, the, especially when, when John Kerry said at COP28, what, a couple of days ago,
00:11:24.380 that he just, he just gets enraged when he sees people who should be responsible in leading
00:11:35.300 other people and they don't understand, we can't build another coal fire plant.
00:11:41.080 We got to get rid of them.
00:11:42.400 I think to myself, first of all, who are you to decide who lives and dies?
00:11:49.700 Because that's, that's really what it is.
00:11:52.260 And the arrogance of your, of, of your position is just, it's crazy, crazy dangerous.
00:12:00.060 I mean, I think the coal thing is particularly scary because everyone is piling on coal.
00:12:05.280 And just if I mentioned energy talking points.com, if you just search electricity emergency, here's
00:12:09.820 the state that we have right now.
00:12:11.520 So we have a grid where we're artificially increasing demand for reliable electricity through
00:12:16.220 EVs, right?
00:12:17.520 And other, and trying to ban gas stoves.
00:12:19.160 This in California, where I live, this is the worst, but it's, it's happening everywhere.
00:12:22.540 Then we're artificially decreasing the supply by shutting down coal plants, natural gas
00:12:27.660 plants and nuclear plants.
00:12:29.120 So we have that already.
00:12:30.480 We already have an emergency where look at what happens in Texas.
00:12:33.400 You guys have daily emergency alerts, right?
00:12:35.560 Throughout the summer.
00:12:36.240 Like your power company doesn't provide power.
00:12:38.580 They tell you not to use power.
00:12:40.100 That's a bad sign for the power company.
00:12:42.460 And it was never like that in Texas.
00:12:44.800 And in this environment, coal plants are protecting us from the abyss.
00:12:49.560 This is a baseload source of power.
00:12:51.580 It's reliable.
00:12:52.460 We've shut down way too many without a viable replacement.
00:12:55.340 And what does our administration do representing us on the international stage?
00:12:59.220 They say, we're going to shut down the rest of them as quickly as possible.
00:13:02.200 If they do that, we lose 20% of our reliable capacity or more.
00:13:06.980 How long before the whole country is enrolling blackouts?
00:13:12.100 I mean, it just depends because we have this EPA.
00:13:14.500 That's just, again, they have no contemplation of the benefits of fossil fuels or reliable
00:13:19.040 electricity.
00:13:19.640 They're just focused on let's eliminate any emission we can.
00:13:23.140 So it's hard to say, but when you see the emergency alerts, that means you have shortages.
00:13:27.440 And it also means you have industrial blackouts.
00:13:29.560 It means that industrial customers are having their power cut off.
00:13:32.760 That happens before like a blackout is an accident, but the shortages are what you
00:13:36.920 want to watch for, because that means that you don't have enough power.
00:13:39.840 So we have shortages and all of these plans to decrease the supply.
00:13:43.580 I think when I talk to a lot of politicians, this is one of the things I tell them, like,
00:13:47.480 this is the existential thing you need to watch out for.
00:13:50.060 And because the coal industry is so small and has a small lobby, you're not getting
00:13:54.080 enough information about it.
00:13:55.940 The oil and gas people are not on.
00:13:57.680 I mean, they do a lot of good stuff.
00:13:58.620 They're not on top of this enough.
00:13:59.720 And there's some hostility toward coal sometimes, but like these coal plants, you do not want to
00:14:04.080 shut these things down.
00:14:05.040 We do not have the natural gas capacity that we're building.
00:14:08.200 The natural gas infrastructure isn't built for electricity yet.
00:14:11.120 We need a lot more gas pipelines.
00:14:13.560 We need to do a lot more stuff in gas, but shutting down coal right now is a terrible,
00:14:18.140 terrible idea.
00:14:18.960 You are listening to the best of Glenn Beck.
00:14:21.520 To listen to the rest of this interview, check out the full show podcast.
00:14:26.380 Stu, who would you choose?
00:14:28.040 Who would you choose?
00:14:29.460 Think of the entire year, all of the things that have happened.
00:14:32.660 Who, who would be the person of the year?
00:14:38.580 Wow.
00:14:39.180 Well, they usually name some horrible dictator.
00:14:43.720 You know what?
00:14:44.760 The Hamas freedom fighter.
00:14:46.800 Yes.
00:14:47.280 Person of the year.
00:14:48.620 Yes.
00:14:49.220 Yes.
00:14:49.400 There you go.
00:14:50.060 No.
00:14:50.380 No?
00:14:50.820 No.
00:14:51.300 Not the Israeli story.
00:14:52.660 A soldier.
00:14:53.880 I think that the Hamas would have had a better chance of winning it.
00:14:57.700 Oh, yeah.
00:14:58.140 Well, that's not who it was.
00:14:59.260 Come on.
00:14:59.680 Come on.
00:15:00.160 Come on.
00:15:00.680 Person of the year.
00:15:03.520 Hmm.
00:15:04.340 Uh, I mean, Zelensky.
00:15:06.160 Let me give you.
00:15:07.840 No, he's already.
00:15:09.660 No.
00:15:10.280 How about Zelensky and Putin arm in arm on the cover?
00:15:14.380 Let me give you a hint.
00:15:16.600 Hmm.
00:15:16.860 With yet another dramatic reading.
00:15:23.580 Our secret moments in your crowded room.
00:15:26.800 They got no idea about me and you.
00:15:29.940 There's an indentation in the shape of you.
00:15:32.900 Made your mark on me.
00:15:35.080 A golden tattoo.
00:15:37.740 You know yet?
00:15:38.760 No.
00:15:39.420 I'm not.
00:15:39.680 All this silence and patience, pining in anticipation, my hands are shaking from holding back from you.
00:15:45.460 Ah, ah, ah.
00:15:47.720 All of this silence and patience, pining and desperately waiting, my hands are shaking from all of this.
00:15:54.740 Ah, ah, ah, ah.
00:15:57.620 Sounds like a personal issue.
00:15:59.240 Say my name and everything just stops.
00:16:02.340 I don't like you like a best friend.
00:16:05.380 Only bought this dress so you could take it off.
00:16:09.760 Take it off.
00:16:10.940 I appreciate you not reading any more of this.
00:16:13.960 Whatever it is.
00:16:14.700 Yes.
00:16:15.100 Come on.
00:16:15.620 Come on.
00:16:15.960 Who is it?
00:16:16.500 Who is it?
00:16:16.860 It sounds wonderful and I'm really interested to know.
00:16:19.740 It's the bicycle guy that just, I'm sorry, the bicycle woman that just won.
00:16:25.920 The bicycle woman.
00:16:27.280 Yeah, you know, the one that just won the bicycle race, you know.
00:16:31.240 The guy who.
00:16:32.620 Oh.
00:16:33.460 That just is.
00:16:34.060 Wait, it's the transgender guy who won the bicycle?
00:16:36.540 Yeah, the women's bicycle race.
00:16:38.600 I don't know who that person's name is.
00:16:40.400 I only bought this dress so you could take it off.
00:16:43.360 You don't think that Time Magazine would do the transgender movement?
00:16:48.600 Maybe that's it.
00:16:48.620 The male athletes, trans women in sports.
00:16:52.200 Yes.
00:16:52.440 Is the person of the year?
00:16:54.060 No.
00:16:54.420 Did they write a.
00:16:55.260 No, they did not.
00:16:56.100 Very mediocre song?
00:16:56.980 It is, of course, Taylor Swift.
00:17:01.360 Ah.
00:17:02.760 Tay-Tay.
00:17:03.660 Tay-Tay.
00:17:04.320 Congratulations.
00:17:05.300 Yeah, yeah.
00:17:05.840 Person of the year.
00:17:07.620 No, I don't think that's shallow.
00:17:10.080 I mean, she's a big entertainer.
00:17:11.900 She is a big entertainer.
00:17:13.120 You know.
00:17:13.340 She is a big entertainer.
00:17:14.420 Lots of impact on my football watching every weekend.
00:17:17.360 Get to see.
00:17:18.460 I just wanted to bring it up because I know how much she means to you.
00:17:23.780 She does.
00:17:24.440 I get to hear the pitch of, hey, did you know a player on your favorite team is related
00:17:30.540 to the person who's dating this woman that you don't care about?
00:17:34.460 Let me talk about it for 48 straight minutes.
00:17:38.640 That's, I love that in every NFL podcast.
00:17:40.980 I know you do.
00:17:42.420 But no, I, Taylor Swift, I mean, look, you can, she had a heck of a year.
00:17:47.560 Oh, she did.
00:17:48.520 It really was an amazing year.
00:17:49.560 She did.
00:17:49.960 If you're going to give it to an entertainer, she's, I think, the obvious choice.
00:17:51.760 She's the entertainer to do.
00:17:53.520 Yes.
00:17:54.600 I mean, there were other impact.
00:17:56.060 Well, her or Jimmy Fallon.
00:17:56.760 Yeah, of course.
00:17:57.600 I mean, he's, oof, what a year he had.
00:18:00.940 Um, Trevor Noah.
00:18:02.860 What'd you put it?
00:18:03.120 Trevor Noah, another one.
00:18:04.300 There's another one?
00:18:04.960 Another one.
00:18:05.400 No, but I mean, like, if you're going to give it to an entertainer, I did feel like there
00:18:08.760 was a lot going on this year, though.
00:18:10.400 No, what?
00:18:11.040 Maybe.
00:18:11.520 What was happening?
00:18:12.140 There was multiple wars.
00:18:13.800 Huh.
00:18:14.440 That broke out.
00:18:15.700 Really?
00:18:16.240 Yeah.
00:18:16.760 Yeah.
00:18:16.920 You kind of had that.
00:18:17.980 You had a lot of stuff going on that was of large impact, but maybe.
00:18:22.640 The whistleblowers?
00:18:24.560 They would have been good.
00:18:25.640 Which ones?
00:18:27.540 Well.
00:18:28.060 The Hunter Biden ones.
00:18:28.980 Any of them.
00:18:29.660 The anti, the ones that pointed out that we were just targeting Catholics for no reason
00:18:35.020 and calling them terrorists.
00:18:36.260 Which ones would, which whistleblowers would you like?
00:18:38.340 Now, I find it.
00:18:38.800 None of them, by the way, that you're going to mention would go to this unless it's a whistleblower
00:18:42.700 on, like, Donald Trump.
00:18:43.760 Then.
00:18:44.180 Right.
00:18:44.460 You have a chance.
00:18:45.160 Right.
00:18:45.860 Right.
00:18:46.440 Sure.
00:18:46.980 But how about the, how about the Ivy League, um, uh, presidents of Harvard, MIT that, I
00:18:55.180 mean, they're women and they were, they were fantastic yesterday, fantastic on antisemitism.
00:19:02.180 They've been very strong on that.
00:19:04.040 Yeah, they have been.
00:19:05.160 Yeah.
00:19:05.300 They're very strong to.
00:19:07.100 They're very antisemitic.
00:19:08.820 I mean, they're, they're very good on that.
00:19:11.360 I mean, you could put, uh, Rashida Tlaib.
00:19:13.980 She's been the queen of the antisemites.
00:19:17.100 Well, I think it's pretty hard to, let me play a little bit of the testimony on Capitol
00:19:21.360 Hill from the, uh, from the presidents of Harvard, MIT and Penn.
00:19:27.660 They were asked about, you know, the calls for genocide of all the Jews on their campus.
00:19:34.780 Listen to this.
00:19:35.900 At MIT, does calling for the genocide of Jews violate MIT's code of conduct or rules regarding
00:19:42.900 bullying and harassment?
00:19:44.060 Yes or no?
00:19:45.000 If targeted at individuals, not making public statements.
00:19:49.480 Yes or no?
00:19:50.920 Calling for the genocide of Jews does not constitute bullying and harassment?
00:19:54.240 I have not heard calling for the genocide for Jews on our campus.
00:19:58.040 But you've heard chants for intifada.
00:20:00.900 I've heard chants, which can be antisemitic depending on the context, or calling for the
00:20:06.140 elimination of the Jewish people.
00:20:07.960 Okay.
00:20:08.700 Stop, stop, stop.
00:20:10.080 I just have to, just have to say.
00:20:11.620 What?
00:20:12.060 I have heard chants on campus that could, in the right context, be antisemitic.
00:20:22.100 Like, calling for the genocide of the Jewish people.
00:20:25.760 Well, sometimes when you call for the genocide of Jewish people, you're not being antisemitic
00:20:29.520 at all.
00:20:29.900 Right.
00:20:30.280 Right.
00:20:30.500 Like, you're looking for more, uh, living space.
00:20:32.940 Yes.
00:20:33.320 You know?
00:20:33.780 Living space.
00:20:34.400 Yes.
00:20:34.660 That was a big, uh, good...
00:20:35.900 Right.
00:20:36.180 There's another catchphrase you might remember from history.
00:20:38.240 Yeah.
00:20:38.480 A little more living space is all we need.
00:20:40.500 I mean, not for them, but for us.
00:20:42.120 Not for them.
00:20:42.500 For us.
00:20:42.900 Yeah.
00:20:43.040 We need to spread out, spread our wings a little bit.
00:20:44.760 Right.
00:20:44.920 Not enough room for the German people.
00:20:46.480 Right.
00:20:46.580 A little more living space.
00:20:47.840 Okay.
00:20:48.100 So, she's heard chants that could, in theory...
00:20:53.160 Could.
00:20:53.420 Yeah.
00:20:53.580 We're not going to say that they were.
00:20:55.220 No.
00:20:55.240 No.
00:20:55.620 They could be antisemitic in the right context.
00:21:00.260 You know, I don't know what context it would be antisemitic to say we should have a genocide
00:21:05.380 of all the Jews.
00:21:06.920 There's probably one, though.
00:21:08.300 Yeah.
00:21:08.620 Somewhere out there.
00:21:09.340 Somewhere out there.
00:21:09.940 If you're really searched.
00:21:10.540 Okay.
00:21:11.320 Let's continue.
00:21:12.600 Incredible.
00:21:13.020 Incredible.
00:21:13.460 So, those would not be according to the MIT's Code of Conduct or rules.
00:21:16.920 That would be investigated as harassment, if pervasive and severe.
00:21:23.820 Ms. McGill...
00:21:24.900 Stop.
00:21:25.520 Stop.
00:21:25.860 Stop.
00:21:26.060 Stop.
00:21:26.760 If pervasive and severe.
00:21:29.720 Hmm.
00:21:30.440 Now, I think anybody standing at a rally chanting death or genocide to all the Jews, I don't know.
00:21:42.940 I think that's pretty severe.
00:21:44.600 I would say it is pretty severe.
00:21:46.520 It seems like if it doesn't violate your Code of Conduct, perhaps your Code of Conduct needs
00:21:52.180 to be adjusted.
00:21:53.040 Right.
00:21:53.300 Did you go to Harvard, though?
00:21:55.000 I did not.
00:21:55.620 I didn't either.
00:21:56.480 And so, you know...
00:21:57.780 You only went to Yale.
00:21:59.080 Yeah.
00:21:59.440 I don't know what Yale's policy is.
00:22:00.880 I don't either.
00:22:01.860 I don't either.
00:22:02.620 And I don't understand, you know, the intellect of Harvard.
00:22:05.640 Let's go to MIT, where they're even smarter.
00:22:11.040 Ms. McGill, at Penn, does calling for the genocide of Jews violate Penn's rules or Code
00:22:17.820 of Conduct?
00:22:18.640 Yes or no?
00:22:19.300 Well, if the speech turns into conduct, it can be harassment.
00:22:26.080 Okay, stop.
00:22:27.300 Okay, stop.
00:22:28.440 So, interesting.
00:22:30.680 Interesting.
00:22:31.840 So, if they're chanting death to all the Jews...
00:22:35.240 That's not.
00:22:35.820 And then...
00:22:36.480 But they round them all up.
00:22:37.780 But then they actually kill Jews at that point.
00:22:40.760 Then it's harassment.
00:22:41.260 Once they've wiped out all the Jews, we're going to act.
00:22:44.440 Right.
00:22:44.760 Okay.
00:22:45.040 Hey, they can build showers.
00:22:47.040 They can build gas chases.
00:22:48.300 Oh, yeah, of course.
00:22:48.400 Obviously, yes.
00:22:49.300 But the minute they start to use them...
00:22:52.420 Well, and technically, the speech is calling for genocide, so they probably have to wipe
00:22:56.560 them all out before we act.
00:22:58.120 But at some...
00:22:59.080 That's when our Code of Conduct will kick in.
00:23:01.600 You know, when there's no Jews left, we'll be like, you know what?
00:23:04.160 Hey, guys, stop.
00:23:05.440 And I bet they will at that point.
00:23:07.140 Yeah.
00:23:07.440 Okay.
00:23:07.740 Here we go.
00:23:08.620 Well, there won't be any left.
00:23:09.460 Right.
00:23:09.760 That's why.
00:23:10.380 Specifically calling for the genocide of Jews, does that constitute bullying or harassment?
00:23:15.300 If it is directed and severe or pervasive, it is harassment.
00:23:21.120 So the answer is yes.
00:23:23.120 It is a context-dependent decision.
00:23:25.240 Context.
00:23:25.720 It's a context-dependent decision.
00:23:27.700 That's your testimony today.
00:23:29.000 Calling for the genocide of Jews is depending upon the context.
00:23:32.680 That is not bullying or harassment.
00:23:35.320 This is the easiest question to answer yes, Ms. McGill.
00:23:40.980 So is your testimony that you will not answer yes?
00:23:44.120 If the speech becomes conduct, it can be harassment.
00:23:51.420 Yes.
00:23:51.700 Conduct meaning committing the act of genocide?
00:23:55.300 The speech is not harassment?
00:23:57.460 This is unacceptable, Ms. McGill.
00:23:59.140 I'm going to give you one more opportunity for the world to see your answer.
00:24:04.220 Does calling for the genocide of Jews violate Penn's Code of Conduct when it comes to bullying
00:24:10.700 and harassment?
00:24:11.760 Yes or no?
00:24:12.420 No.
00:24:14.120 It can be harassment.
00:24:17.220 The answer is yes.
00:24:19.360 And Dr. Gay, at Harvard, does calling for the genocide of Jews violate Harvard's rules
00:24:25.600 of bullying and harassment, yes or no?
00:24:28.780 It can be, depending on the context.
00:24:31.620 What's the context?
00:24:33.200 Targeted as an individual.
00:24:35.000 Targeted at an individual.
00:24:36.360 It's targeted at Jewish students, Jewish individuals.
00:24:40.040 Do you understand your testimony is dehumanizing them?
00:24:44.180 Do you understand that dehumanization is part of antisemitism?
00:24:47.840 I will ask you one more time, does calling for the genocide of Jews violate Harvard's rules of bullying and harassment, yes or no?
00:24:59.320 Anti-Semitic rhetoric.
00:25:01.460 And is it anti-Semitic rhetoric?
00:25:03.920 Anti-Semitic rhetoric when it crosses into conduct that amounts to bullying, harassment,
00:25:08.740 I can't believe this.
00:25:10.800 I can't believe this.
00:25:12.620 If you have a microaggression, which is not saying we should kill all of you, okay?
00:25:21.180 A microaggression, they need a safe space.
00:25:25.620 Everybody needs to go cry and be protected.
00:25:28.660 If you use the wrong pronouns, they put these things into these categories.
00:25:33.300 And calling for the genocide of Jews, well, you know what, if it's targeted towards an individual.
00:25:39.720 Well, technically, if you're calling for the genocide of the whole race, it's not targeted at an individual.
00:25:44.040 It's all individuals, every single one of them.
00:25:47.060 So I guess maybe that's their out.
00:25:49.020 But also, I will say, you know, that's one of the best grilling.
00:25:55.360 I mean, that is, she did a really good job with that.
00:25:57.860 Really good job.
00:25:58.240 Now, I will say, it should have been easy for them to say this.
00:26:02.620 You can look at the, what you don't maybe get on radio is the faces of these women as they are trying to answer these questions.
00:26:09.760 They're so smug and so like, oh, this, she's, I see what you're trying to do here and I'm not going to fall for it.
00:26:17.580 But, well, it depends on the context.
00:26:20.400 Hang on, what are you trying to do there?
00:26:22.260 Yeah.
00:26:22.720 You're trying to say.
00:26:23.760 You're trying to trap them to make them, to make them say the Palestinian protester kids are bad.
00:26:28.120 It's like, well, yeah, when they're calling for the genocide of the Jews, yeah, they are.
00:26:31.180 Yeah.
00:26:31.300 You should be able to say that with real confidence.
00:26:33.820 Yes.
00:26:34.520 Should be really easy.
00:26:35.380 Even more confidence than the pronoun mistake that you're going to throw 10 kids out of your school for next week.
00:26:41.400 Here's a Jewish student that is suing you, Penn, describing anti-Semitism.
00:26:48.280 On October 7th, Israel was attacked.
00:26:51.260 Since October 7th, American Jews have been under attack.
00:26:54.740 My name is Eyal Yacobi, and I am a proud American studying at the University of Pennsylvania.
00:27:01.580 I love Penn.
00:27:03.020 I've wanted to attend this university since before I can remember.
00:27:06.680 I'm here because the Penn I attend today is unrecognizable from the Penn I once used to know.
00:27:13.740 Penn, once renowned for groundbreaking discoveries like the mRNA vaccine, is now a chilling landscape of hatred and hostility.
00:27:20.760 Our university, revered for its pursuit of knowledge, has devolved into an arena where Jewish students tiptoe through their days, uncertain and unsafe.
00:27:30.020 Not only are tensions palpable, but there have also been materialized actions taken to intimidate and harm students.
00:27:36.320 A bomb threat against Hillel.
00:27:38.180 A swastika spray-painted.
00:27:39.880 The Hillel and Chabad houses vandalized.
00:27:42.300 A professor posting the armed wing of Hamas's logo on Facebook.
00:27:45.880 A Jewish student accosted.
00:27:48.440 Jews are Nazis.
00:27:50.240 Etched adjacent to Penn's Jewish fraternity house.
00:27:53.860 Why doesn't the university hold the perpetrators of such acts accountable?
00:27:58.060 Is the university fearful that they may offend those who wish to intimidate and harass their fellow students?
00:28:04.360 Penn's ambivalence fuels a crisis that has shattered my academic sanctuary.
00:28:10.240 Policies meant to safeguard us have become hollow promises.
00:28:13.120 And let us be clear, if they fail Jewish students today, tomorrow they will fail the rest of us.
00:28:20.440 It was powerful.
00:28:22.520 Yesterday was a very powerful day.
00:28:24.500 And not just for outing of anti-Semites, but also those who were called transphobic.
00:28:33.800 This is the best of the Glenn Beck Program.
00:28:36.600 Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.
00:28:38.600 Thanks, ma'am.
00:28:39.100 I was at Colony Ridge over the last few days, been doing some investigation on a documentary that we're doing.
00:28:49.360 And I had to come home for the debate tonight.
00:28:51.880 But Jason Buttrell is down.
00:28:55.400 He's our head researcher and head writer for the Glenn Beck Program.
00:29:00.220 I mean, I kind of handed some of the stuff off yesterday.
00:29:03.900 He's he's he's got another interview tonight and ride along in Colony Ridge.
00:29:11.600 It is this massive, massive project where nobody speaks English, really.
00:29:18.680 Um, and none of the cops do either.
00:29:21.860 I think they have they have 50 sheriff's deputies for this enormous county.
00:29:27.900 Um, and there's eight people for I believe it's seventy nine thousand people.
00:29:33.960 Now, the developers will say there's only thirty five thousand people there.
00:29:38.120 Um, not true.
00:29:39.860 According to the school district that has a way to figure out how many people are coming in.
00:29:45.480 And you have to live in that area to be able to go to the schools.
00:29:48.300 They say there's seventy nine seventy five or seventy nine thousand people.
00:29:52.640 Eight cops.
00:29:54.620 Eight.
00:29:55.200 And that's on four shifts.
00:29:57.800 OK.
00:29:58.860 Uh, and, uh, very few speak any Spanish at all.
00:30:04.040 Any Spanish?
00:30:04.780 Yeah.
00:30:05.120 They don't speak Spanish.
00:30:05.980 And, uh, the residents generally don't speak English.
00:30:09.260 So that's a good combo.
00:30:10.960 It's a really good combo.
00:30:11.800 It's crazy.
00:30:13.120 It's crazy what's going on.
00:30:14.260 I talked to the sheriff yesterday and, um, this is the hardest story to figure out because
00:30:20.840 I hear opposite stories from everybody we talked to and the sheriff was the first one
00:30:29.200 that said, boom, here's the book.
00:30:32.060 Here's what's really going on.
00:30:34.040 So we're going to follow up, uh, this week with Jason.
00:30:37.080 That'll be interesting.
00:30:37.760 And Jason Buttrell doing, uh, the coverage.
00:30:40.120 I've never seen a documentary where the host, uh, is wearing a tank top.
00:30:43.860 So that'll be, that'll be fascinating to watch for multiple reasons.
00:30:47.420 And that's coming out in January only on Blaze TV.
00:30:50.260 It is so important that you, uh, subscribe to Blaze TV.
00:30:54.440 I, I really believe the next 12 months, um, are going to decide really the fate of our nation
00:31:02.600 and, uh, and possibly the voices that you hear.
00:31:07.220 Uh, and I don't know if you saw, did you see the latest from, do we have the pictures from,
00:31:12.500 um, YouTube now?
00:31:14.620 I told you yesterday that Instagram, uh, they banned a story that we had where we just talked
00:31:24.500 about Hamas and what happened.
00:31:26.360 It was right after October 7th.
00:31:28.500 Um, we didn't show any graphic stuff.
00:31:30.980 We showed the stuff that everybody else has seen and everybody else has shown.
00:31:35.060 And I was talking about Hamas and what happened.
00:31:38.560 Instagram, uh, banned me, banned that story and then banned me from doing anything live,
00:31:45.040 which I don't do for the next 30 days.
00:31:47.680 I'm sure my numbers are being suppressed now.
00:31:50.160 Uh, and it's because I was talking about a dangerous group.
00:31:57.660 Well, yeah, it's Hamas.
00:31:59.480 And I was reporting the news.
00:32:01.520 What you're banning this.
00:32:04.180 Yes.
00:32:04.740 Is the answer.
00:32:05.960 Now, if you look at YouTube, when I'm talking about Hamas and this isn't happening on anybody
00:32:13.500 else's page, when I'm talking about Hamas, first of all,
00:32:17.680 the, the thumbnail is blurred out.
00:32:21.180 So you can't see anything about Hamas.
00:32:24.320 Then if you click on it, it says, verify your age.
00:32:30.860 So now they make you verify your age and sign in.
00:32:35.500 How many people are actually going to see my coverage of what happened in Israel and Hamas
00:32:40.560 and my coverage on Hamas.
00:32:42.260 This is just another way to suppress the truth.
00:32:46.760 And they are coming hard for this program.
00:32:51.220 Uh, the last few months are unlike, and you know, if you've been a long-term listener,
00:32:57.440 we have gone through the ringer.
00:33:00.120 Uh, they have not come this hard for this program ever before.
00:33:06.460 Not like this.
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00:33:21.660 Um, all right.
00:33:24.700 There's a couple of other things that I want to, uh, go through today.
00:33:29.080 There is, um, well, this one's just kind of satisfying.
00:33:34.280 Um, at the, uh, Met Opera last week, which is so relatable.
00:33:39.640 Everybody goes to the opera and, um, you know, it's like, what's playing at the opera right now?
00:33:45.880 Uh, is it ghost protocol?
00:33:49.440 No, it's probably, yeah.
00:33:50.780 I don't know.
00:33:51.260 I don't know.
00:33:51.800 But anyway, at the, at the Met, these climate protesters came in.
00:33:57.400 Now, this is so satisfying to me because the Met, it's full of all those rich, snotty leftists, most likely.
00:34:06.920 And, uh, and they're the ones who are funding all these climate idiots.
00:34:12.000 So, climate idiot gets into the Met and starts to disrupt.
00:34:17.780 Oh, no.
00:34:18.400 The opera.
00:34:19.440 Here it is.
00:34:34.060 Shut up.
00:34:38.040 I've never liked an opera audience more than this.
00:34:41.040 I know.
00:34:41.380 I, I mean, wait till you see the guy in the tuxedo come.
00:34:48.600 Just shut up and get out.
00:34:53.000 It's.
00:34:53.320 We are in a climate crisis.
00:34:57.700 We are in a climate crisis.
00:34:59.640 Get the f*** out.
00:35:00.660 Get the f*** out.
00:35:01.360 So righteous.
00:35:02.460 So righteous.
00:35:03.120 Out.
00:35:04.160 Out.
00:35:04.920 Listen to, I mean, I mean, they hit this.
00:35:07.480 So somebody, somebody in the crowd hit this old lady.
00:35:10.260 I mean, they say, they're like, you know.
00:35:13.380 You're a moron.
00:35:14.560 You're an old people.
00:35:15.420 You're a moron.
00:35:17.820 You're lucky.
00:35:18.640 You're not in the oven.
00:35:19.380 The whole f*** out of here.
00:35:20.880 I mean, this is, this is worse than anything the media ever showed about a Trump rally.
00:35:26.200 Yeah.
00:35:26.740 That's really.
00:35:27.540 They're really pissed.
00:35:28.580 They're really pissed.
00:35:29.880 Are they aware the thing they're there for sucks?
00:35:32.280 I don't think so.
00:35:33.420 I think they're still under the illusion that this is nice.
00:35:36.120 This is good.
00:35:36.820 That's, that's the big problem.
00:35:37.960 I'm really enjoying this.
00:35:39.560 No, they're not.
00:35:40.180 You got to believe half the men in that audience were like, thank you.
00:35:43.980 Honey, we should go.
00:35:45.260 We should really go.
00:35:46.240 Something bad might happen.
00:35:47.240 We should get out of here.
00:35:48.160 This is very dangerous.
00:35:48.680 Plus, what are we doing for the climate?
00:35:50.020 I'm very concerned what we're doing.
00:35:51.660 We should not go to those operas anymore.
00:35:54.100 No.
00:35:54.260 It is fascinating.
00:35:55.420 Of course, the people that fund all of these extinction rebellion is the group that did
00:35:59.340 this.
00:35:59.580 And they're, you know, one of the most extreme organizations on the planet.
00:36:03.600 We have a recurring segment on Studios America called idiots gluing themselves to things.
00:36:11.480 Yeah.
00:36:11.760 And that's usually extinction rebellion.
00:36:14.240 They go and there are people that glue themselves to the floor of like a factory.
00:36:17.920 And you're just like, why don't we never just to leave them there?
00:36:20.840 I would never take, they could help them out.
00:36:23.280 No, just leave them there.
00:36:24.900 Bye.
00:36:24.980 We just take the, you know, we just work around them.
00:36:27.180 Let's work around them.
00:36:28.300 Draw a yellow circle around for safety so you don't run into them or, you know, and you
00:36:34.880 just leave them there.
00:36:35.720 Just do that once and it's never going to happen again.
00:36:37.600 No one's ever going to glue themselves to things again.
00:36:39.740 Nope.
00:36:40.020 But it'd be almost like a sequel to the movie Saw, where eventually you just leave a saw
00:36:45.780 with them in the circle and just wait until they saw their hands off to get out.
00:36:50.600 I mean, it would probably take a week or two.
00:36:52.720 Yeah.
00:36:53.280 Well, do they have access to water?
00:36:56.600 I, you know, I, I, that's, that's, I say they go, especially if they do it in an opera
00:37:02.260 house and the operas are going on.
00:37:05.200 Oh, I think, yeah.
00:37:05.960 You'll be dead in a day.
00:37:07.140 Yeah.
00:37:07.440 The operas, I think you just, you, you keep, you keep going with them and you'd be like,
00:37:11.840 okay, here's your saw.
00:37:12.780 You can saw your hand off anytime you want to leave.
00:37:14.600 And then they may just commit suicide with the saw to get out of the opera, which is a fascinating
00:37:19.100 development.
00:37:19.640 So here's Senator Kennedy yesterday talking to our, our FBI director, Christopher Wray
00:37:29.320 about the Hunter Biden laptop, which we now know they knew everything about.
00:37:34.700 They had all the information and they stepped, they kept silent.
00:37:38.800 Listen to what Christopher Wray says.
00:37:40.480 Why didn't the FBI just say, Hey, the, the, the, the, the laptop's real.
00:37:46.440 Why didn't you just tell everybody the laptop's real?
00:37:51.560 We're not vouching for what's on it, but it's real.
00:37:54.360 This isn't a, a, a, a fiction.
00:37:58.800 Well, I, as you might imagine, the FBI cannot, especially in a time like that, be talking about
00:38:05.020 an ongoing investigation.
00:38:06.680 Second, I would tell you that at least my understanding is that both the FBI folks involved in the
00:38:11.820 conversations and the Twitter folks involved in the conversations both say that the FBI
00:38:16.160 did not direct Twitter to, uh, suppress.
00:38:20.500 But others were in government.
00:38:22.520 Well, I can't, again, I can't speak to others in government.
00:38:24.820 That's part of the point that I was trying to make because the fifth.
00:38:27.600 But you're the FBI.
00:38:29.080 You're not part of the white house and part of Homeland security.
00:38:32.700 You're not supposed to be political.
00:38:34.420 You see all this controversy going on.
00:38:36.520 Why didn't the FBI said, time out folks, we're not getting in the middle of this, but the
00:38:40.880 laptop's real.
00:38:43.940 Well, he said, cause you can't get involved in the middle of an election.
00:38:48.140 So we couldn't, we couldn't deny, we couldn't deny the falsehoods.
00:38:52.840 It's in the middle of an election.
00:38:54.480 Wouldn't that be the one thing that you would want them to do is just say, look, I, we're
00:38:59.940 not saying anything about the content of it, but we are, this is not Russian propaganda.
00:39:07.900 This is not Russian propaganda.
00:39:09.940 This, the laptop is real, but what's on it.
00:39:13.440 We can't vouch for at the very least.
00:39:15.360 They certainly should have informed the other branches of government that this was going
00:39:20.140 on because those branches of government were going to all these social media accounts
00:39:24.120 and saying the exact opposite.
00:39:25.360 They were saying it is Russian propaganda.
00:39:26.660 They were releasing letters saying this is Russian propaganda when in reality, they, they
00:39:33.260 probably knew.
00:39:34.260 I mean, my guess is the FBI did go and did inform them that this was real and they did
00:39:39.820 it anyway to get it pulled down.
00:39:41.840 That's the real crime.
00:39:43.300 And again, I, I, I'm, I'm with you on, you know, Christopher Wray, I have no, no soft spot
00:39:47.700 for him in my, in my heart.
00:39:48.800 Donald Trump says he's the, the, the jury's still out on him.
00:39:51.760 Is it really?
00:39:53.580 Okay.
00:39:53.760 I mean, obviously Trump, you know, appointed him.
00:39:56.080 Right.
00:39:56.480 Is that what he's, he's, he's like, I'm not sure now.
00:39:59.340 Yeah.
00:39:59.740 I'm not sure.
00:40:00.620 I am.
00:40:01.700 Wow.
00:40:01.920 That's surprising.
00:40:02.680 Yeah.
00:40:03.000 I thought he, I mean, because some of this stuff has burned Trump.
00:40:06.100 I mean, it's, it's not, it's not like Christopher Wray has been helpful to Donald Trump.
00:40:10.840 No.
00:40:11.640 I'm surprised.
00:40:12.300 And I don't want him just to go in.
00:40:13.780 What'd you think about his statement?
00:40:15.980 So Donald Trump, his statement, I'm not going to be a dictator.
00:40:19.320 I mean, on the first day I will be, but only that day.
00:40:23.360 I would prefer zero days of him being a dictator.
00:40:25.840 I mean, that's why I say it's so Donald Trump.
00:40:27.860 Yeah.
00:40:28.240 He, it was tongue in cheek, right?
00:40:29.500 Yeah.
00:40:29.720 That's the way he does things.
00:40:31.380 Right.
00:40:31.500 He's basically saying, yeah, I'm going to be a dictator for this first day.
00:40:34.880 I'm going to repeal all of those executive orders.
00:40:38.540 They're all going away.
00:40:40.260 Yeah.
00:40:40.660 And of course that's not, it's the, that's the opposite of a dictator, right?
00:40:44.780 You're taking someone who has been acting like a dictator and repealing what he's doing.
00:40:48.820 That's not being a dictator.
00:40:49.940 Right.
00:40:50.240 Again, like it's funny.
00:40:51.300 Trump is the opposite of everybody else when it comes to this stuff.
00:40:53.920 And maybe this is part of his, his magical power, but like most people want to say something
00:40:59.920 in the way that will explain it the best.
00:41:04.540 And, um, also would that will cause the least problems for you?
00:41:09.860 Like you would, you would want to form a sentence in a way that would disarm criticism.
00:41:17.540 He does the opposite.
00:41:19.140 He's saying like, when he's saying this dictator thing and I read the transcript of it, I didn't
00:41:22.560 see the clip, but I read the transcript of it and he's clearly just saying that he will
00:41:29.600 go in and use the executive powers that he has as president and unwind bad policies that
00:41:35.980 were put in by another executive.
00:41:37.520 That's not a, that is not a way to describe what a dictator does, but he's actually says
00:41:43.920 it in a way that makes it sound worse than it is.
00:41:46.080 He's intentionally making it sound bad.
00:41:49.380 And I think he loves that.
00:41:52.840 I think he loves it too.
00:41:53.600 I think he loves that.
00:41:54.720 But, and it does seem to work for him at least with Republican primary voters.
00:41:58.120 Like, I mean, I don't know that it works for everybody.
00:42:00.980 You know, it worked in 2016.
00:42:02.580 He got over the finish line there.
00:42:04.080 2020 didn't, but with 2024 question mark.
00:42:06.700 It's going to be an interesting year.
00:42:07.360 2024 is going to be it.
00:42:08.660 I can't wait to see how this turns out.
00:42:10.660 I can't wait to watch this all play out, Glenn.
00:42:14.280 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:42:14.980 Na, na, na, na.