The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program ｜ Guest： Alex Epstein ｜ 12⧸6⧸23

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00:00:08.260 Stu is just torturing me, an innocent soul, with alcohol the whole time.

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00:01:07.680 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:01:21.740 Center for Industrial Progress Founder and President and author of Fossil Future.

00:01:26.120 He's been watching COP28, which, you know, I didn't see 1 through 27, so I didn't really

00:01:34.120 get it, but we wanted to have him come in and fill us in.

00:01:37.680 It's getting more and more insane, isn't it?

00:01:40.140 Yeah.

00:01:40.380 I mean, what's been your kind of observation just looking at it from headlines?

00:01:44.000 I'm curious.

00:01:44.480 My observation is the arrogance is getting out of control.

00:01:51.160 The attitude of the little people must be tamed is sickening.

00:02:02.480 Yeah, I mean, you see these calls.

00:02:06.840 I was just reading this morning.

00:02:08.000 They're considering the draft language.

00:02:09.740 So just so people know, so COP stands for Conference of the Parties, and it's part of

00:02:13.840 what's called the United Nations Framework Concern in Climate Change.

00:02:16.660 They have all these acronyms and everything like that.

00:02:18.940 And then the allegedly scientific basis of this is called the IPCC, Intergovernmental

00:02:23.440 Panel on Climate Change.

00:02:25.060 And this is really the epicenter of the net zero movement.

00:02:28.340 This is where they convene every year.

00:02:29.840 And they always say the same thing, which is we did a decent job restricting fossil

00:02:34.940 fuels, but we really didn't do enough.

00:02:36.920 So this year, we really have to finish the job.

00:02:40.120 And so they start arguing and everyone starts out by saying we should get rid of fossil fuels.

00:02:44.240 That's the starting point.

00:02:45.240 And then some remotely sane people kind of mitigate it.

00:02:49.780 But it still ends up with a totally evil, in my view, conclusion.

00:02:53.220 But right now, they're literally considering that something that says a just and orderly phase

00:02:57.880 out of fossil fuels.

00:02:58.860 That's one option.

00:02:59.840 The second one is...

00:03:01.460 What's a just and orderly?

00:03:03.880 Is that like America should get rid of it first?

00:03:07.780 Yes, exactly.

00:03:08.820 Exactly.

00:03:09.700 So that's the one that's getting headlines right now because the leaders want that.

00:03:17.340 And it's really perverse because the only legitimacy to it is they're recognizing,

00:03:22.980 wait a second, it doesn't make sense for undeveloped countries and developing countries

00:03:26.520 to have net zero policies.

00:03:28.080 They're already a net zero.

00:03:29.200 That's their problem.

00:03:30.180 Yeah, right.

00:03:30.700 Right.

00:03:30.900 That's the issue.

00:03:32.780 But then there's this...

00:03:34.380 And so some African nations are standing up and saying, hey, it's good for us to use 1.00

00:03:37.740 fossil fuels.

00:03:38.620 And some are saying it's good for the world to.

00:03:40.740 But then there's this movement, which is often like climate justice or climate reparations,

00:03:44.720 where they say, no, no, Africa gets to use fossil fuels.

00:03:47.180 And then the US needs to stop using fossil fuels by 2030, which can you imagine a worse

00:03:53.040 thing for the world for all the developed economies to be destroyed?

00:03:56.960 That is not going to help anybody.

00:03:59.600 So it's still just this murderous movement.

00:04:02.180 And the key to it is fossil fuel benefit denial.

00:04:04.940 They just ignore the benefits of fossil fuels.

00:04:07.300 They say, we don't like the side effects of fossil fuels on climate, but they ignore

00:04:10.700 the benefits.

00:04:11.280 And it's exactly as if you had an antibiotics conference and they just said, let's get rid

00:04:15.100 of antibiotics.

00:04:15.580 We don't like the side effects.

00:04:17.040 It's like, okay, but that's going to kill billions of people. 0.86

00:04:19.600 They're like, we're not going to talk about that.

00:04:21.180 We're just against antibiotic side effects.

00:04:23.660 So tell me what a world looks like without fossil fuels.

00:04:29.600 I mean, there's...

00:04:30.920 You can't describe it to people like the destruction of it, because it would be literally like,

00:04:36.720 let's take their timetable of 2050, which, you know, this is something...

00:04:40.160 This is not an obscure view.

00:04:41.260 This is literally the most popular political idea in the world.

00:04:43.980 I mean, that truly.

00:04:45.580 That we should be net zero by 2050.

00:04:47.880 So that means rapidly eliminate almost all fossil fuel use.

00:04:51.020 We could talk about some of the oil companies are pretending you can capture all the CO2 by

00:04:54.500 2050.

00:04:55.020 That definitely is not true.

00:04:56.240 We could talk about that.

00:04:57.740 So it means rapidly eliminate fossil fuels.

00:05:00.040 But fossil fuels are 80% of the world's energy.

00:05:02.760 They're still growing because they're uniquely cost effective.

00:05:05.280 That's why China is building 300 new coal plants, despite, you know, all the hostility

00:05:09.120 toward fossil fuels.

00:05:10.100 So if you get rid of the most cost effective source of energy in a world where most people

00:05:15.240 use very little energy, and energy is absolutely a requirement for people to survive, let alone

00:05:20.860 flourish, because it allows us to use machines versus using manual labor.

00:05:24.400 That's just the apocalypse.

00:05:26.080 Like, just agriculture.

00:05:27.220 We depend on diesel fuel for machinery, and we depend on natural gas for fertilizer.

00:05:31.240 We cannot feed 8 billion people without that.

00:05:33.100 And these monsters are discussing eliminating fossil fuels full stop, and they're just not

00:05:38.200 thinking about this.

00:05:39.440 I have to tell you, I was watching yesterday.

00:05:41.660 I happened to be standing, waiting for something.

00:05:45.000 And I stood outside, and there was this big, what do you call those?

00:05:49.180 You know, the diggers with the big claws.

00:05:51.400 Excavators.

00:05:52.020 Excavator, yeah.

00:05:52.640 And thank you.

00:05:54.120 Hall of Fame.

00:05:54.960 Reminder, he's in the Hall of Fame.

00:05:56.560 And I'm watching them, and I'm like, this is the greatest boy job ever.

00:06:01.900 I mean, that, I mean, I still, you know, at almost 60, I'm like, I want that job.

00:06:08.800 But I just, I sat there, and I watched it, and I thought, oh, that's going to work with

00:06:12.160 battery power.

00:06:13.360 That's absolutely, I mean, there will be nothing, there will be nothing that is working.

00:06:19.160 And if you get rid of fossil fuels, how do you charge the batteries?

00:06:24.420 So, I think it's important, once you start asking these questions, I think you realize

00:06:28.760 a broader point of mine, which is that the green movement and the green energy movement,

00:06:32.640 they're not an attempt to replace fossil fuels with better energy.

00:06:36.900 There's a deep hostility toward energy as such, because their focus is, let's protect the

00:06:42.660 planet from human impact.

00:06:43.780 That's their basic thing.

00:06:44.740 Human impact is evil, let's protect the planet from it.

00:06:47.120 But if you hate human impact, you have to hate energy, because energy is impact.

00:06:50.340 That's what we do with energy, is we impact the planet.

00:06:53.300 That's, like, we make machines.

00:06:55.220 We spent thousands of years trying to come up with a way to create energy.

00:07:02.860 Thousands of years.

00:07:04.140 We were starving.

00:07:05.100 We were starving to death, freezing to death.

00:07:08.220 Every species wants impact except modern environmentalist humans.

00:07:11.700 Right.

00:07:12.020 How do you convince these dolts that this is suicide? 1.00

00:07:18.980 You know, I don't understand.

00:07:20.660 I mean, I do understand that people like John Kerry, they'll be able to have access to everything

00:07:26.840 they need. 1.00

00:07:27.620 But these people who are out in the streets picketing, and I mean, are they really that stupid? 1.00

00:07:36.500 Have they not done the math on this at all? 0.99

00:07:40.240 Well, I think, so some people are truly anti-human, but I don't think that's most people.

00:07:45.980 I think most people, they've just, they haven't even realized that they've been taught to think

00:07:50.100 of something in a totally biased way.

00:07:51.980 Again, ignoring all the benefits of fossil fuels and only looking at the negative side

00:07:55.300 effects.

00:07:55.600 So one thing I do is I just point that out.

00:07:57.080 Hey, with any technology, we need to be even-handed.

00:07:59.620 Look at both benefits and side effects.

00:08:01.820 And then you need to educate them because, for instance, people don't know that fossil fuels

00:08:05.220 are uniquely cost-effective.

00:08:06.500 They're taught the fiction that fossil fuels can be rapidly replaced by solar and wind.

00:08:10.740 They're also taught that our climate-

00:08:12.280 Those are people without solar or wind power at their house.

00:08:14.880 So one of the things, you know, I have this book, Fossil Future, but also a free website,

00:08:18.320 energytalkingpoints.com, and people can search any topic there and they can get very concise,

00:08:23.060 well-referenced points.

00:08:24.740 And that's helping people educate their friends and family.

00:08:27.600 So if you're having discussions during Christmas, just go to energytalkingpoints.com and you can

00:08:31.260 search like solar and wind and you can learn the truth about it.

00:08:34.220 It's not too hard to explain, but the mass media and educational system have just totally 0.96

00:08:39.140 made people ignorant.

00:08:41.140 So when they say no more fossil fuels, does that mean no more drilling for it either, 0.94

00:08:47.340 right?

00:08:48.080 Well, it's actually worse than that because they make the-

00:08:51.380 Well, because-

00:08:52.180 So no more fossil fuels is essentially a-

00:08:54.400 We're going to stuff people down the oil wells to replace the dinosaurs. 1.00

00:08:58.060 Well, but what they do is they make this 2050 target for we have to be net zero, which means

00:09:03.140 we can't add any more CO2 to the atmosphere by 2050, which I think would be the apocalypse

00:09:08.140 if that's what you do.

00:09:10.220 But then what they do in the meantime is they say, it's not like that happens in 2050.

00:09:16.060 They say, well, we need to ban, for example, natural gas infrastructure.

00:09:18.960 So Markey out of Massachusetts, the senator, like he led this push to say no new natural

00:09:25.980 gas infrastructure.

00:09:26.820 He said, we committed to no new natural gas infrastructure by end of 2022, so we should

00:09:31.260 do it.

00:09:31.880 And I'm thinking, wait a second, have you witnessed Europe?

00:09:34.020 Like Europe is afraid of winter now, like it's Game of Thrones, right?

00:09:38.120 There's a shortage of gas in the world.

00:09:40.060 Like Russia invades Ukraine.

00:09:41.360 Everyone is desperate for gas.

00:09:42.780 Bangladesh is having blackouts because they don't have enough gas.

00:09:45.380 And your solution is no new natural gas infrastructure.

00:09:48.900 And also they think they don't understand oil and gas deplete.

00:09:51.900 So you constantly need to build new stuff.

00:09:53.980 Otherwise, you can't even stay at your current level, let alone the larger level that people

00:09:58.340 need around the world.

00:09:59.660 Right.

00:10:00.140 So, but what I'm asking is there are other uses for oil.

00:10:06.200 Yeah.

00:10:07.100 You know, it's our synthetics for our clothing and everything else that comes from oil, the

00:10:12.340 capsules of our drugs.

00:10:13.940 What is, are they saying stop all that too?

00:10:18.300 Well, some of them say like, oh, we can do it for that.

00:10:21.220 But that whole industry is dependent on using it for energy.

00:10:25.240 It's not like it's going to be a totally different thing.

00:10:27.040 Because it's a byproduct.

00:10:27.720 Yeah.

00:10:27.960 So it's, I mean, but the point is the green people are not thinking about energy.

00:10:34.040 Energy is not their focus.

00:10:35.680 Protecting the planet from humans is their focus.

00:10:38.660 So every time you bring up these rational things, it's true, but they're not thinking about

00:10:43.080 that.

00:10:43.320 That's not what they care about.

00:10:44.280 And in a sense, I talk about this in chapter three of fossil future.

00:10:47.540 In a sense, the benefits of fossil fuels are the problem because the benefits of fossil

00:10:52.780 fuels allow the human race to expand for us to have 8 billion people, for us to have

00:10:56.640 a lot of impact.

00:10:57.460 And a lot of these guys say explicitly, we should have 1 billion people or less.

00:11:01.380 Now, think about what that implies in terms of any kind of near-term action.

00:11:05.880 How do you get 8 billion people to 1 billion people?

00:11:08.440 They die.

00:11:09.440 Yeah. 1.00

00:11:09.740 And you got to make them die somehow. 0.99

00:11:12.860 It is. 0.97

00:11:13.980 It's so anti-human.

00:11:16.780 You know, the, especially when, when John Kerry said at COP28, what, a couple of days ago,

00:11:24.380 that he just, he just gets enraged when he sees people who should be responsible in leading

00:11:35.300 other people and they don't understand, we can't build another coal fire plant.

00:11:41.080 We got to get rid of them.

00:11:42.400 I think to myself, first of all, who are you to decide who lives and dies?

00:11:49.700 Because that's, that's really what it is.

00:11:52.260 And the arrogance of your, of, of your position is just, it's crazy, crazy dangerous.

00:12:00.060 I mean, I think the coal thing is particularly scary because everyone is piling on coal.

00:12:05.280 And just if I mentioned energy talking points.com, if you just search electricity emergency, here's

00:12:09.820 the state that we have right now.

00:12:11.520 So we have a grid where we're artificially increasing demand for reliable electricity through

00:12:16.220 EVs, right?

00:12:17.520 And other, and trying to ban gas stoves. 0.85

00:12:19.160 This in California, where I live, this is the worst, but it's, it's happening everywhere.

00:12:22.540 Then we're artificially decreasing the supply by shutting down coal plants, natural gas

00:12:27.660 plants and nuclear plants.

00:12:29.120 So we have that already.

00:12:30.480 We already have an emergency where look at what happens in Texas.

00:12:33.400 You guys have daily emergency alerts, right?

00:12:35.560 Throughout the summer.

00:12:36.240 Like your power company doesn't provide power.

00:12:38.580 They tell you not to use power.

00:12:40.100 That's a bad sign for the power company.

00:12:42.460 And it was never like that in Texas.

00:12:44.800 And in this environment, coal plants are protecting us from the abyss.

00:12:49.560 This is a baseload source of power.

00:12:51.580 It's reliable.

00:12:52.460 We've shut down way too many without a viable replacement.

00:12:55.340 And what does our administration do representing us on the international stage?

00:12:59.220 They say, we're going to shut down the rest of them as quickly as possible.

00:13:02.200 If they do that, we lose 20% of our reliable capacity or more.

00:13:06.980 How long before the whole country is enrolling blackouts?

00:13:12.100 I mean, it just depends because we have this EPA.

00:13:14.500 That's just, again, they have no contemplation of the benefits of fossil fuels or reliable

00:13:19.040 electricity.

00:13:19.640 They're just focused on let's eliminate any emission we can.

00:13:23.140 So it's hard to say, but when you see the emergency alerts, that means you have shortages.

00:13:27.440 And it also means you have industrial blackouts.

00:13:29.560 It means that industrial customers are having their power cut off.

00:13:32.760 That happens before like a blackout is an accident, but the shortages are what you

00:13:36.920 want to watch for, because that means that you don't have enough power.

00:13:39.840 So we have shortages and all of these plans to decrease the supply.

00:13:43.580 I think when I talk to a lot of politicians, this is one of the things I tell them, like,

00:13:47.480 this is the existential thing you need to watch out for.

00:13:50.060 And because the coal industry is so small and has a small lobby, you're not getting

00:13:54.080 enough information about it.

00:13:55.940 The oil and gas people are not on.

00:13:57.680 I mean, they do a lot of good stuff.

00:13:58.620 They're not on top of this enough.

00:13:59.720 And there's some hostility toward coal sometimes, but like these coal plants, you do not want to

00:14:04.080 shut these things down. 0.66

00:14:05.040 We do not have the natural gas capacity that we're building.

00:14:08.200 The natural gas infrastructure isn't built for electricity yet.

00:14:11.120 We need a lot more gas pipelines.

00:14:13.560 We need to do a lot more stuff in gas, but shutting down coal right now is a terrible,

00:14:18.140 terrible idea.

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00:14:26.380 Stu, who would you choose?

00:14:28.040 Who would you choose?

00:14:29.460 Think of the entire year, all of the things that have happened.

00:14:32.660 Who, who would be the person of the year?

00:14:38.580 Wow. 0.87

00:14:39.180 Well, they usually name some horrible dictator.

00:14:43.720 You know what?

00:14:44.760 The Hamas freedom fighter.

00:14:46.800 Yes.

00:14:47.280 Person of the year.

00:14:48.620 Yes.

00:14:49.220 Yes.

00:14:49.400 There you go.

00:14:50.060 No.

00:14:50.380 No?

00:14:50.820 No.

00:14:51.300 Not the Israeli story.

00:14:52.660 A soldier.

00:14:53.880 I think that the Hamas would have had a better chance of winning it. 1.00

00:14:57.700 Oh, yeah.

00:14:58.140 Well, that's not who it was.

00:14:59.260 Come on.

00:14:59.680 Come on.

00:15:00.160 Come on.

00:15:00.680 Person of the year.

00:15:03.520 Hmm.

00:15:04.340 Uh, I mean, Zelensky.

00:15:06.160 Let me give you.

00:15:07.840 No, he's already.

00:15:09.660 No.

00:15:10.280 How about Zelensky and Putin arm in arm on the cover?

00:15:14.380 Let me give you a hint.

00:15:16.600 Hmm.

00:15:16.860 With yet another dramatic reading.

00:15:23.580 Our secret moments in your crowded room.

00:15:26.800 They got no idea about me and you.

00:15:29.940 There's an indentation in the shape of you.

00:15:32.900 Made your mark on me.

00:15:35.080 A golden tattoo.

00:15:37.740 You know yet?

00:15:38.760 No.

00:15:39.420 I'm not.

00:15:39.680 All this silence and patience, pining in anticipation, my hands are shaking from holding back from you.

00:15:45.460 Ah, ah, ah.

00:15:47.720 All of this silence and patience, pining and desperately waiting, my hands are shaking from all of this.

00:15:54.740 Ah, ah, ah, ah.

00:15:57.620 Sounds like a personal issue.

00:15:59.240 Say my name and everything just stops.

00:16:02.340 I don't like you like a best friend.

00:16:05.380 Only bought this dress so you could take it off.

00:16:09.760 Take it off.

00:16:10.940 I appreciate you not reading any more of this.

00:16:13.960 Whatever it is.

00:16:14.700 Yes.

00:16:15.100 Come on.

00:16:15.620 Come on.

00:16:15.960 Who is it?

00:16:16.500 Who is it?

00:16:16.860 It sounds wonderful and I'm really interested to know.

00:16:19.740 It's the bicycle guy that just, I'm sorry, the bicycle woman that just won. 0.99

00:16:25.920 The bicycle woman. 0.89

00:16:27.280 Yeah, you know, the one that just won the bicycle race, you know.

00:16:31.240 The guy who.

00:16:32.620 Oh.

00:16:33.460 That just is.

00:16:34.060 Wait, it's the transgender guy who won the bicycle?

00:16:36.540 Yeah, the women's bicycle race. 0.99

00:16:38.600 I don't know who that person's name is.

00:16:40.400 I only bought this dress so you could take it off.

00:16:43.360 You don't think that Time Magazine would do the transgender movement?

00:16:48.600 Maybe that's it.

00:16:48.620 The male athletes, trans women in sports.

00:16:52.200 Yes.

00:16:52.440 Is the person of the year?

00:16:54.060 No.

00:16:54.420 Did they write a.

00:16:55.260 No, they did not.

00:16:56.100 Very mediocre song?

00:16:56.980 It is, of course, Taylor Swift.

00:17:01.360 Ah.

00:17:02.760 Tay-Tay. 0.81

00:17:03.660 Tay-Tay. 0.81

00:17:04.320 Congratulations.

00:17:05.300 Yeah, yeah.

00:17:05.840 Person of the year.

00:17:07.620 No, I don't think that's shallow.

00:17:10.080 I mean, she's a big entertainer. 0.98

00:17:11.900 She is a big entertainer.

00:17:13.120 You know.

00:17:13.340 She is a big entertainer.

00:17:14.420 Lots of impact on my football watching every weekend.

00:17:17.360 Get to see.

00:17:18.460 I just wanted to bring it up because I know how much she means to you.

00:17:23.780 She does.

00:17:24.440 I get to hear the pitch of, hey, did you know a player on your favorite team is related

00:17:30.540 to the person who's dating this woman that you don't care about?

00:17:34.460 Let me talk about it for 48 straight minutes.

00:17:38.640 That's, I love that in every NFL podcast.

00:17:40.980 I know you do.

00:17:42.420 But no, I, Taylor Swift, I mean, look, you can, she had a heck of a year.

00:17:47.560 Oh, she did.

00:17:48.520 It really was an amazing year.

00:17:49.560 She did.

00:17:49.960 If you're going to give it to an entertainer, she's, I think, the obvious choice.

00:17:51.760 She's the entertainer to do. 0.93

00:17:53.520 Yes.

00:17:54.600 I mean, there were other impact.

00:17:56.060 Well, her or Jimmy Fallon.

00:17:56.760 Yeah, of course.

00:17:57.600 I mean, he's, oof, what a year he had.

00:18:00.940 Um, Trevor Noah.

00:18:02.860 What'd you put it?

00:18:03.120 Trevor Noah, another one.

00:18:04.300 There's another one?

00:18:04.960 Another one.

00:18:05.400 No, but I mean, like, if you're going to give it to an entertainer, I did feel like there

00:18:08.760 was a lot going on this year, though.

00:18:10.400 No, what?

00:18:11.040 Maybe.

00:18:11.520 What was happening?

00:18:12.140 There was multiple wars.

00:18:13.800 Huh.

00:18:14.440 That broke out.

00:18:15.700 Really?

00:18:16.240 Yeah.

00:18:16.760 Yeah.

00:18:16.920 You kind of had that.

00:18:17.980 You had a lot of stuff going on that was of large impact, but maybe.

00:18:22.640 The whistleblowers?

00:18:24.560 They would have been good.

00:18:25.640 Which ones?

00:18:27.540 Well.

00:18:28.060 The Hunter Biden ones.

00:18:28.980 Any of them.

00:18:29.660 The anti, the ones that pointed out that we were just targeting Catholics for no reason

00:18:35.020 and calling them terrorists.

00:18:36.260 Which ones would, which whistleblowers would you like?

00:18:38.340 Now, I find it.

00:18:38.800 None of them, by the way, that you're going to mention would go to this unless it's a whistleblower

00:18:42.700 on, like, Donald Trump.

00:18:43.760 Then.

00:18:44.180 Right.

00:18:44.460 You have a chance.

00:18:45.160 Right.

00:18:45.860 Right.

00:18:46.440 Sure.

00:18:46.980 But how about the, how about the Ivy League, um, uh, presidents of Harvard, MIT that, I

00:18:55.180 mean, they're women and they were, they were fantastic yesterday, fantastic on antisemitism.

00:19:02.180 They've been very strong on that.

00:19:04.040 Yeah, they have been.

00:19:05.160 Yeah.

00:19:05.300 They're very strong to.

00:19:07.100 They're very antisemitic.

00:19:08.820 I mean, they're, they're very good on that.

00:19:11.360 I mean, you could put, uh, Rashida Tlaib.

00:19:13.980 She's been the queen of the antisemites. 0.99

00:19:17.100 Well, I think it's pretty hard to, let me play a little bit of the testimony on Capitol

00:19:21.360 Hill from the, uh, from the presidents of Harvard, MIT and Penn.

00:19:27.660 They were asked about, you know, the calls for genocide of all the Jews on their campus.

00:19:34.780 Listen to this.

00:19:35.900 At MIT, does calling for the genocide of Jews violate MIT's code of conduct or rules regarding

00:19:42.900 bullying and harassment?

00:19:44.060 Yes or no?

00:19:45.000 If targeted at individuals, not making public statements.

00:19:49.480 Yes or no?

00:19:50.920 Calling for the genocide of Jews does not constitute bullying and harassment?

00:19:54.240 I have not heard calling for the genocide for Jews on our campus.

00:19:58.040 But you've heard chants for intifada.

00:20:00.900 I've heard chants, which can be antisemitic depending on the context, or calling for the 0.96

00:20:06.140 elimination of the Jewish people. 0.99

00:20:07.960 Okay. 0.98

00:20:08.700 Stop, stop, stop.

00:20:10.080 I just have to, just have to say.

00:20:11.620 What?

00:20:12.060 I have heard chants on campus that could, in the right context, be antisemitic. 0.90

00:20:22.100 Like, calling for the genocide of the Jewish people.

00:20:25.760 Well, sometimes when you call for the genocide of Jewish people, you're not being antisemitic

00:20:29.520 at all.

00:20:29.900 Right.

00:20:30.280 Right.

00:20:30.500 Like, you're looking for more, uh, living space.

00:20:32.940 Yes.

00:20:33.320 You know?

00:20:33.780 Living space.

00:20:34.400 Yes.

00:20:34.660 That was a big, uh, good...

00:20:35.900 Right.

00:20:36.180 There's another catchphrase you might remember from history.

00:20:38.240 Yeah.

00:20:38.480 A little more living space is all we need.

00:20:40.500 I mean, not for them, but for us.

00:20:42.120 Not for them.

00:20:42.500 For us.

00:20:42.900 Yeah.

00:20:43.040 We need to spread out, spread our wings a little bit.

00:20:44.760 Right.

00:20:44.920 Not enough room for the German people. 1.00

00:20:46.480 Right.

00:20:46.580 A little more living space.

00:20:47.840 Okay.

00:20:48.100 So, she's heard chants that could, in theory...

00:20:53.160 Could.

00:20:53.420 Yeah.

00:20:53.580 We're not going to say that they were.

00:20:55.220 No.

00:20:55.240 No.

00:20:55.620 They could be antisemitic in the right context.

00:21:00.260 You know, I don't know what context it would be antisemitic to say we should have a genocide 0.68

00:21:05.380 of all the Jews.

00:21:06.920 There's probably one, though.

00:21:08.300 Yeah.

00:21:08.620 Somewhere out there.

00:21:09.340 Somewhere out there.

00:21:09.940 If you're really searched.

00:21:10.540 Okay.

00:21:11.320 Let's continue.

00:21:12.600 Incredible.

00:21:13.020 Incredible.

00:21:13.460 So, those would not be according to the MIT's Code of Conduct or rules.

00:21:16.920 That would be investigated as harassment, if pervasive and severe.

00:21:23.820 Ms. McGill...

00:21:24.900 Stop.

00:21:25.520 Stop.

00:21:25.860 Stop.

00:21:26.060 Stop.

00:21:26.760 If pervasive and severe.

00:21:29.720 Hmm. 0.79

00:21:30.440 Now, I think anybody standing at a rally chanting death or genocide to all the Jews, I don't know.

00:21:42.940 I think that's pretty severe.

00:21:44.600 I would say it is pretty severe.

00:21:46.520 It seems like if it doesn't violate your Code of Conduct, perhaps your Code of Conduct needs

00:21:52.180 to be adjusted.

00:21:53.040 Right.

00:21:53.300 Did you go to Harvard, though?

00:21:55.000 I did not.

00:21:55.620 I didn't either.

00:21:56.480 And so, you know...

00:21:57.780 You only went to Yale.

00:21:59.080 Yeah.

00:21:59.440 I don't know what Yale's policy is.

00:22:00.880 I don't either.

00:22:01.860 I don't either.

00:22:02.620 And I don't understand, you know, the intellect of Harvard.

00:22:05.640 Let's go to MIT, where they're even smarter.

00:22:11.040 Ms. McGill, at Penn, does calling for the genocide of Jews violate Penn's rules or Code

00:22:17.820 of Conduct?

00:22:18.640 Yes or no?

00:22:19.300 Well, if the speech turns into conduct, it can be harassment.

00:22:26.080 Okay, stop.

00:22:27.300 Okay, stop.

00:22:28.440 So, interesting.

00:22:30.680 Interesting. 1.00

00:22:31.840 So, if they're chanting death to all the Jews... 0.99

00:22:35.240 That's not. 0.99

00:22:35.820 And then...

00:22:36.480 But they round them all up. 1.00

00:22:37.780 But then they actually kill Jews at that point. 0.99

00:22:40.760 Then it's harassment. 1.00

00:22:41.260 Once they've wiped out all the Jews, we're going to act. 1.00

00:22:44.440 Right. 0.99

00:22:44.760 Okay.

00:22:45.040 Hey, they can build showers. 1.00

00:22:47.040 They can build gas chases.

00:22:48.300 Oh, yeah, of course.

00:22:48.400 Obviously, yes.

00:22:49.300 But the minute they start to use them...

00:22:52.420 Well, and technically, the speech is calling for genocide, so they probably have to wipe

00:22:56.560 them all out before we act.

00:22:58.120 But at some...

00:22:59.080 That's when our Code of Conduct will kick in.

00:23:01.600 You know, when there's no Jews left, we'll be like, you know what? 1.00

00:23:04.160 Hey, guys, stop.

00:23:05.440 And I bet they will at that point.

00:23:07.140 Yeah.

00:23:07.440 Okay.

00:23:07.740 Here we go.

00:23:08.620 Well, there won't be any left.

00:23:09.460 Right.

00:23:09.760 That's why.

00:23:10.380 Specifically calling for the genocide of Jews, does that constitute bullying or harassment?

00:23:15.300 If it is directed and severe or pervasive, it is harassment.

00:23:21.120 So the answer is yes.

00:23:23.120 It is a context-dependent decision.

00:23:25.240 Context.

00:23:25.720 It's a context-dependent decision.

00:23:27.700 That's your testimony today.

00:23:29.000 Calling for the genocide of Jews is depending upon the context.

00:23:32.680 That is not bullying or harassment.

00:23:35.320 This is the easiest question to answer yes, Ms. McGill.

00:23:40.980 So is your testimony that you will not answer yes?

00:23:44.120 If the speech becomes conduct, it can be harassment.

00:23:51.420 Yes.

00:23:51.700 Conduct meaning committing the act of genocide?

00:23:55.300 The speech is not harassment?

00:23:57.460 This is unacceptable, Ms. McGill.

00:23:59.140 I'm going to give you one more opportunity for the world to see your answer.

00:24:04.220 Does calling for the genocide of Jews violate Penn's Code of Conduct when it comes to bullying

00:24:10.700 and harassment?

00:24:11.760 Yes or no?

00:24:12.420 No.

00:24:14.120 It can be harassment.

00:24:17.220 The answer is yes.

00:24:19.360 And Dr. Gay, at Harvard, does calling for the genocide of Jews violate Harvard's rules

00:24:25.600 of bullying and harassment, yes or no? 0.95

00:24:28.780 It can be, depending on the context.

00:24:31.620 What's the context?

00:24:33.200 Targeted as an individual.

00:24:35.000 Targeted at an individual.

00:24:36.360 It's targeted at Jewish students, Jewish individuals.

00:24:40.040 Do you understand your testimony is dehumanizing them?

00:24:44.180 Do you understand that dehumanization is part of antisemitism?

00:24:47.840 I will ask you one more time, does calling for the genocide of Jews violate Harvard's rules of bullying and harassment, yes or no?

00:24:59.320 Anti-Semitic rhetoric.

00:25:01.460 And is it anti-Semitic rhetoric?

00:25:03.920 Anti-Semitic rhetoric when it crosses into conduct that amounts to bullying, harassment,

00:25:08.740 I can't believe this.

00:25:10.800 I can't believe this. 1.00

00:25:12.620 If you have a microaggression, which is not saying we should kill all of you, okay? 0.95

00:25:21.180 A microaggression, they need a safe space. 0.56

00:25:25.620 Everybody needs to go cry and be protected.

00:25:28.660 If you use the wrong pronouns, they put these things into these categories.

00:25:33.300 And calling for the genocide of Jews, well, you know what, if it's targeted towards an individual.

00:25:39.720 Well, technically, if you're calling for the genocide of the whole race, it's not targeted at an individual.

00:25:44.040 It's all individuals, every single one of them.

00:25:47.060 So I guess maybe that's their out.

00:25:49.020 But also, I will say, you know, that's one of the best grilling.

00:25:55.360 I mean, that is, she did a really good job with that.

00:25:57.860 Really good job.

00:25:58.240 Now, I will say, it should have been easy for them to say this.

00:26:02.620 You can look at the, what you don't maybe get on radio is the faces of these women as they are trying to answer these questions.

00:26:09.760 They're so smug and so like, oh, this, she's, I see what you're trying to do here and I'm not going to fall for it.

00:26:17.580 But, well, it depends on the context.

00:26:20.400 Hang on, what are you trying to do there?

00:26:22.260 Yeah.

00:26:22.720 You're trying to say.

00:26:23.760 You're trying to trap them to make them, to make them say the Palestinian protester kids are bad. 0.96

00:26:28.120 It's like, well, yeah, when they're calling for the genocide of the Jews, yeah, they are. 0.93

00:26:31.180 Yeah.

00:26:31.300 You should be able to say that with real confidence.

00:26:33.820 Yes.

00:26:34.520 Should be really easy.

00:26:35.380 Even more confidence than the pronoun mistake that you're going to throw 10 kids out of your school for next week.

00:26:41.400 Here's a Jewish student that is suing you, Penn, describing anti-Semitism.

00:26:48.280 On October 7th, Israel was attacked.

00:26:51.260 Since October 7th, American Jews have been under attack.

00:26:54.740 My name is Eyal Yacobi, and I am a proud American studying at the University of Pennsylvania.

00:27:01.580 I love Penn.

00:27:03.020 I've wanted to attend this university since before I can remember.

00:27:06.680 I'm here because the Penn I attend today is unrecognizable from the Penn I once used to know.

00:27:13.740 Penn, once renowned for groundbreaking discoveries like the mRNA vaccine, is now a chilling landscape of hatred and hostility.

00:27:20.760 Our university, revered for its pursuit of knowledge, has devolved into an arena where Jewish students tiptoe through their days, uncertain and unsafe. 1.00

00:27:30.020 Not only are tensions palpable, but there have also been materialized actions taken to intimidate and harm students.

00:27:36.320 A bomb threat against Hillel.

00:27:38.180 A swastika spray-painted.

00:27:39.880 The Hillel and Chabad houses vandalized.

00:27:42.300 A professor posting the armed wing of Hamas's logo on Facebook.

00:27:45.880 A Jewish student accosted. 1.00

00:27:48.440 Jews are Nazis. 0.99

00:27:50.240 Etched adjacent to Penn's Jewish fraternity house. 0.99

00:27:53.860 Why doesn't the university hold the perpetrators of such acts accountable?

00:27:58.060 Is the university fearful that they may offend those who wish to intimidate and harass their fellow students?

00:28:04.360 Penn's ambivalence fuels a crisis that has shattered my academic sanctuary.

00:28:10.240 Policies meant to safeguard us have become hollow promises.

00:28:13.120 And let us be clear, if they fail Jewish students today, tomorrow they will fail the rest of us. 0.98

00:28:20.440 It was powerful.

00:28:22.520 Yesterday was a very powerful day.

00:28:24.500 And not just for outing of anti-Semites, but also those who were called transphobic.

00:28:33.800 This is the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:28:36.600 Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:28:38.600 Thanks, ma'am.

00:28:39.100 I was at Colony Ridge over the last few days, been doing some investigation on a documentary that we're doing.

00:28:49.360 And I had to come home for the debate tonight.

00:28:51.880 But Jason Buttrell is down.

00:28:55.400 He's our head researcher and head writer for the Glenn Beck Program.

00:29:00.220 I mean, I kind of handed some of the stuff off yesterday.

00:29:03.900 He's he's he's got another interview tonight and ride along in Colony Ridge.

00:29:11.600 It is this massive, massive project where nobody speaks English, really.

00:29:18.680 Um, and none of the cops do either.

00:29:21.860 I think they have they have 50 sheriff's deputies for this enormous county.

00:29:27.900 Um, and there's eight people for I believe it's seventy nine thousand people.

00:29:33.960 Now, the developers will say there's only thirty five thousand people there.

00:29:38.120 Um, not true.

00:29:39.860 According to the school district that has a way to figure out how many people are coming in.

00:29:45.480 And you have to live in that area to be able to go to the schools.

00:29:48.300 They say there's seventy nine seventy five or seventy nine thousand people.

00:29:52.640 Eight cops.

00:29:54.620 Eight.

00:29:55.200 And that's on four shifts.

00:29:57.800 OK.

00:29:58.860 Uh, and, uh, very few speak any Spanish at all.

00:30:04.040 Any Spanish?

00:30:04.780 Yeah.

00:30:05.120 They don't speak Spanish.

00:30:05.980 And, uh, the residents generally don't speak English.

00:30:09.260 So that's a good combo.

00:30:10.960 It's a really good combo.

00:30:11.800 It's crazy.

00:30:13.120 It's crazy what's going on.

00:30:14.260 I talked to the sheriff yesterday and, um, this is the hardest story to figure out because

00:30:20.840 I hear opposite stories from everybody we talked to and the sheriff was the first one

00:30:29.200 that said, boom, here's the book.

00:30:32.060 Here's what's really going on.

00:30:34.040 So we're going to follow up, uh, this week with Jason.

00:30:37.080 That'll be interesting.

00:30:37.760 And Jason Buttrell doing, uh, the coverage.

00:30:40.120 I've never seen a documentary where the host, uh, is wearing a tank top.

00:30:43.860 So that'll be, that'll be fascinating to watch for multiple reasons.

00:30:47.420 And that's coming out in January only on Blaze TV.

00:30:50.260 It is so important that you, uh, subscribe to Blaze TV.

00:30:54.440 I, I really believe the next 12 months, um, are going to decide really the fate of our nation

00:31:02.600 and, uh, and possibly the voices that you hear.

00:31:07.220 Uh, and I don't know if you saw, did you see the latest from, do we have the pictures from,

00:31:12.500 um, YouTube now?

00:31:14.620 I told you yesterday that Instagram, uh, they banned a story that we had where we just talked

00:31:24.500 about Hamas and what happened.

00:31:26.360 It was right after October 7th.

00:31:28.500 Um, we didn't show any graphic stuff.

00:31:30.980 We showed the stuff that everybody else has seen and everybody else has shown.

00:31:35.060 And I was talking about Hamas and what happened.

00:31:38.560 Instagram, uh, banned me, banned that story and then banned me from doing anything live,

00:31:45.040 which I don't do for the next 30 days.

00:31:47.680 I'm sure my numbers are being suppressed now.

00:31:50.160 Uh, and it's because I was talking about a dangerous group.

00:31:57.660 Well, yeah, it's Hamas. 0.90

00:31:59.480 And I was reporting the news.

00:32:01.520 What you're banning this.

00:32:04.180 Yes.

00:32:04.740 Is the answer.

00:32:05.960 Now, if you look at YouTube, when I'm talking about Hamas and this isn't happening on anybody

00:32:13.500 else's page, when I'm talking about Hamas, first of all,

00:32:17.680 the, the thumbnail is blurred out.

00:32:21.180 So you can't see anything about Hamas.

00:32:24.320 Then if you click on it, it says, verify your age.

00:32:30.860 So now they make you verify your age and sign in.

00:32:35.500 How many people are actually going to see my coverage of what happened in Israel and Hamas

00:32:40.560 and my coverage on Hamas.

00:32:42.260 This is just another way to suppress the truth.

00:32:46.760 And they are coming hard for this program.

00:32:51.220 Uh, the last few months are unlike, and you know, if you've been a long-term listener,

00:32:57.440 we have gone through the ringer.

00:33:00.120 Uh, they have not come this hard for this program ever before.

00:33:06.460 Not like this.

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00:33:21.660 Um, all right.

00:33:24.700 There's a couple of other things that I want to, uh, go through today.

00:33:29.080 There is, um, well, this one's just kind of satisfying.

00:33:34.280 Um, at the, uh, Met Opera last week, which is so relatable.

00:33:39.640 Everybody goes to the opera and, um, you know, it's like, what's playing at the opera right now?

00:33:45.880 Uh, is it ghost protocol?

00:33:49.440 No, it's probably, yeah.

00:33:50.780 I don't know.

00:33:51.260 I don't know.

00:33:51.800 But anyway, at the, at the Met, these climate protesters came in.

00:33:57.400 Now, this is so satisfying to me because the Met, it's full of all those rich, snotty leftists, most likely. 1.00

00:34:06.920 And, uh, and they're the ones who are funding all these climate idiots. 1.00

00:34:12.000 So, climate idiot gets into the Met and starts to disrupt. 1.00

00:34:17.780 Oh, no. 1.00

00:34:18.400 The opera.

00:34:19.440 Here it is. 1.00

00:34:34.060 Shut up. 1.00

00:34:38.040 I've never liked an opera audience more than this. 0.99

00:34:41.040 I know.

00:34:41.380 I, I mean, wait till you see the guy in the tuxedo come. 0.99

00:34:48.600 Just shut up and get out. 0.99

00:34:53.000 It's. 1.00

00:34:53.320 We are in a climate crisis.

00:34:57.700 We are in a climate crisis. 0.99

00:34:59.640 Get the f*** out. 0.99

00:35:00.660 Get the f*** out. 0.99

00:35:01.360 So righteous. 0.96

00:35:02.460 So righteous.

00:35:03.120 Out.

00:35:04.160 Out.

00:35:04.920 Listen to, I mean, I mean, they hit this.

00:35:07.480 So somebody, somebody in the crowd hit this old lady. 0.99

00:35:10.260 I mean, they say, they're like, you know. 1.00

00:35:13.380 You're a moron. 1.00

00:35:14.560 You're an old people. 1.00

00:35:15.420 You're a moron. 1.00

00:35:17.820 You're lucky. 1.00

00:35:18.640 You're not in the oven. 0.96

00:35:19.380 The whole f*** out of here. 0.95

00:35:20.880 I mean, this is, this is worse than anything the media ever showed about a Trump rally. 0.95

00:35:26.200 Yeah.

00:35:26.740 That's really.

00:35:27.540 They're really pissed.

00:35:28.580 They're really pissed. 0.99

00:35:29.880 Are they aware the thing they're there for sucks? 0.96

00:35:32.280 I don't think so.

00:35:33.420 I think they're still under the illusion that this is nice.

00:35:36.120 This is good.

00:35:36.820 That's, that's the big problem.

00:35:37.960 I'm really enjoying this.

00:35:39.560 No, they're not.

00:35:40.180 You got to believe half the men in that audience were like, thank you.

00:35:43.980 Honey, we should go.

00:35:45.260 We should really go.

00:35:46.240 Something bad might happen.

00:35:47.240 We should get out of here.

00:35:48.160 This is very dangerous.

00:35:48.680 Plus, what are we doing for the climate?

00:35:50.020 I'm very concerned what we're doing.

00:35:51.660 We should not go to those operas anymore.

00:35:54.100 No.

00:35:54.260 It is fascinating.

00:35:55.420 Of course, the people that fund all of these extinction rebellion is the group that did

00:35:59.340 this.

00:35:59.580 And they're, you know, one of the most extreme organizations on the planet. 1.00

00:36:03.600 We have a recurring segment on Studios America called idiots gluing themselves to things. 1.00

00:36:11.480 Yeah. 1.00

00:36:11.760 And that's usually extinction rebellion.

00:36:14.240 They go and there are people that glue themselves to the floor of like a factory.

00:36:17.920 And you're just like, why don't we never just to leave them there?

00:36:20.840 I would never take, they could help them out.

00:36:23.280 No, just leave them there.

00:36:24.900 Bye.

00:36:24.980 We just take the, you know, we just work around them.

00:36:27.180 Let's work around them.

00:36:28.300 Draw a yellow circle around for safety so you don't run into them or, you know, and you

00:36:34.880 just leave them there.

00:36:35.720 Just do that once and it's never going to happen again.

00:36:37.600 No one's ever going to glue themselves to things again.

00:36:39.740 Nope.

00:36:40.020 But it'd be almost like a sequel to the movie Saw, where eventually you just leave a saw

00:36:45.780 with them in the circle and just wait until they saw their hands off to get out.

00:36:50.600 I mean, it would probably take a week or two.

00:36:52.720 Yeah.

00:36:53.280 Well, do they have access to water?

00:36:56.600 I, you know, I, I, that's, that's, I say they go, especially if they do it in an opera

00:37:02.260 house and the operas are going on.

00:37:05.200 Oh, I think, yeah. 0.99

00:37:05.960 You'll be dead in a day. 0.99

00:37:07.140 Yeah.

00:37:07.440 The operas, I think you just, you, you keep, you keep going with them and you'd be like,

00:37:11.840 okay, here's your saw.

00:37:12.780 You can saw your hand off anytime you want to leave.

00:37:14.600 And then they may just commit suicide with the saw to get out of the opera, which is a fascinating

00:37:19.100 development.

00:37:19.640 So here's Senator Kennedy yesterday talking to our, our FBI director, Christopher Wray

00:37:29.320 about the Hunter Biden laptop, which we now know they knew everything about.

00:37:34.700 They had all the information and they stepped, they kept silent.

00:37:38.800 Listen to what Christopher Wray says.

00:37:40.480 Why didn't the FBI just say, Hey, the, the, the, the, the laptop's real.

00:37:46.440 Why didn't you just tell everybody the laptop's real?

00:37:51.560 We're not vouching for what's on it, but it's real.

00:37:54.360 This isn't a, a, a, a fiction.

00:37:58.800 Well, I, as you might imagine, the FBI cannot, especially in a time like that, be talking about

00:38:05.020 an ongoing investigation.

00:38:06.680 Second, I would tell you that at least my understanding is that both the FBI folks involved in the

00:38:11.820 conversations and the Twitter folks involved in the conversations both say that the FBI

00:38:16.160 did not direct Twitter to, uh, suppress.

00:38:20.500 But others were in government.

00:38:22.520 Well, I can't, again, I can't speak to others in government.

00:38:24.820 That's part of the point that I was trying to make because the fifth.

00:38:27.600 But you're the FBI.

00:38:29.080 You're not part of the white house and part of Homeland security.

00:38:32.700 You're not supposed to be political.

00:38:34.420 You see all this controversy going on.

00:38:36.520 Why didn't the FBI said, time out folks, we're not getting in the middle of this, but the

00:38:40.880 laptop's real.

00:38:43.940 Well, he said, cause you can't get involved in the middle of an election.

00:38:48.140 So we couldn't, we couldn't deny, we couldn't deny the falsehoods.

00:38:52.840 It's in the middle of an election.

00:38:54.480 Wouldn't that be the one thing that you would want them to do is just say, look, I, we're

00:38:59.940 not saying anything about the content of it, but we are, this is not Russian propaganda.

00:39:07.900 This is not Russian propaganda.

00:39:09.940 This, the laptop is real, but what's on it.

00:39:13.440 We can't vouch for at the very least.

00:39:15.360 They certainly should have informed the other branches of government that this was going

00:39:20.140 on because those branches of government were going to all these social media accounts

00:39:24.120 and saying the exact opposite.

00:39:25.360 They were saying it is Russian propaganda.

00:39:26.660 They were releasing letters saying this is Russian propaganda when in reality, they, they 0.91

00:39:33.260 probably knew.

00:39:34.260 I mean, my guess is the FBI did go and did inform them that this was real and they did

00:39:39.820 it anyway to get it pulled down. 0.99

00:39:41.840 That's the real crime.

00:39:43.300 And again, I, I, I'm, I'm with you on, you know, Christopher Wray, I have no, no soft spot

00:39:47.700 for him in my, in my heart.

00:39:48.800 Donald Trump says he's the, the, the jury's still out on him.

00:39:51.760 Is it really?

00:39:53.580 Okay.

00:39:53.760 I mean, obviously Trump, you know, appointed him.

00:39:56.080 Right.

00:39:56.480 Is that what he's, he's, he's like, I'm not sure now.

00:39:59.340 Yeah.

00:39:59.740 I'm not sure.

00:40:00.620 I am.

00:40:01.700 Wow.

00:40:01.920 That's surprising.

00:40:02.680 Yeah.

00:40:03.000 I thought he, I mean, because some of this stuff has burned Trump.

00:40:06.100 I mean, it's, it's not, it's not like Christopher Wray has been helpful to Donald Trump.

00:40:10.840 No.

00:40:11.640 I'm surprised.

00:40:12.300 And I don't want him just to go in.

00:40:13.780 What'd you think about his statement?

00:40:15.980 So Donald Trump, his statement, I'm not going to be a dictator.

00:40:19.320 I mean, on the first day I will be, but only that day.

00:40:23.360 I would prefer zero days of him being a dictator.

00:40:25.840 I mean, that's why I say it's so Donald Trump.

00:40:27.860 Yeah.

00:40:28.240 He, it was tongue in cheek, right?

00:40:29.500 Yeah.

00:40:29.720 That's the way he does things.

00:40:31.380 Right.

00:40:31.500 He's basically saying, yeah, I'm going to be a dictator for this first day.

00:40:34.880 I'm going to repeal all of those executive orders.

00:40:38.540 They're all going away.

00:40:40.260 Yeah.

00:40:40.660 And of course that's not, it's the, that's the opposite of a dictator, right?

00:40:44.780 You're taking someone who has been acting like a dictator and repealing what he's doing.

00:40:48.820 That's not being a dictator.

00:40:49.940 Right.

00:40:50.240 Again, like it's funny.

00:40:51.300 Trump is the opposite of everybody else when it comes to this stuff.

00:40:53.920 And maybe this is part of his, his magical power, but like most people want to say something

00:40:59.920 in the way that will explain it the best.

00:41:04.540 And, um, also would that will cause the least problems for you?

00:41:09.860 Like you would, you would want to form a sentence in a way that would disarm criticism.

00:41:17.540 He does the opposite.

00:41:19.140 He's saying like, when he's saying this dictator thing and I read the transcript of it, I didn't

00:41:22.560 see the clip, but I read the transcript of it and he's clearly just saying that he will

00:41:29.600 go in and use the executive powers that he has as president and unwind bad policies that

00:41:35.980 were put in by another executive.

00:41:37.520 That's not a, that is not a way to describe what a dictator does, but he's actually says

00:41:43.920 it in a way that makes it sound worse than it is.

00:41:46.080 He's intentionally making it sound bad.

00:41:49.380 And I think he loves that.

00:41:52.840 I think he loves it too.

00:41:53.600 I think he loves that.

00:41:54.720 But, and it does seem to work for him at least with Republican primary voters.

00:41:58.120 Like, I mean, I don't know that it works for everybody.

00:42:00.980 You know, it worked in 2016.

00:42:02.580 He got over the finish line there.

00:42:04.080 2020 didn't, but with 2024 question mark.

00:42:06.700 It's going to be an interesting year.

00:42:07.360 2024 is going to be it.

00:42:08.660 I can't wait to see how this turns out.

00:42:10.660 I can't wait to watch this all play out, Glenn.

00:42:14.280 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:42:14.980 Na, na, na, na.

The Glenn Beck Program - December 06, 2023

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