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Glenn Beck and Andrew Klavan discuss the death of Hamas leader Sinoir Ben Yehudis and the fact that his bodyguard worked for the United Nation's Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) and was a teacher.
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What you're going to hear today is a little bit about what happened at the at the fancy, you know, swanky white tie dinner in New York.
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Like Kamala Harris did not show up. Donald Trump did. The reviews are pretty amazing.
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Well, no, there's it's typical New York Times. He was mean. He was bad. He wasn't funny at all.
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Except for one exception on the left that said he was funny, which will blow your mind.
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Also, what is the government actually leading to?
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What is the left doing when they talk about fascism and everything else? What are they setting up?
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Why are we seeing these trends on things they're talking about? What is coming if they win?
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Also, Andrew Klavan joins us. A show you don't want to miss.
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I had, uh, all black, dark clothes at the cleaners.
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Mine were, my black clothes to mourn, uh, the loss of the Hamas leader lost in a boating accident along with my guns.
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Well, well, I want everybody to know that we are just super, super sad at the loss of Sinoir.
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Um, his, uh, bodyguard now, it appears, his bodyguard worked for the United Nations.
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Uh, his passport, uh, and we have verified this now with, um, inside the Israeli intelligence,
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and we have the photograph of his passport, which states, uh, under his occupation, a UNRWA teacher.
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Uh, so that's United Nations Relief and Works Agency.
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He was a bodyguard, uh, right there with the cash and Sinoir.
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Uh, maybe he was teaching him, you know, how to, I don't know, how to use, uh, UN funds to kill more people.
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Uh, but they were together and, uh, and we verified this now.
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How many hoops do we have to go through to, to show UN employment, uh, on official travel documents, uh, for residents in Gaza that are part of Hamas?
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Is this kind of thing, you know, is it rubber stamped all the time?
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Uh, you know, is it, what, what was the involvement of the UN in the, um, October 7th attacks?
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It's a terror organization, same level as ISIS.
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The media is easy commentary on his death is not surprising, but I get the feeling that they're going to look very, very stupid, stupid, or dare I say complicit after all of this is over.
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Um, you know, rest assured the full truth does come out eventually, you know, and, uh, that's when there's Nuremberg trials.
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I can't see Jim Gaffigan now and not think of Tim Walls.
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It is, you know, it is a really funny impersonation.
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I mean, they don't give him any funny lines because they don't want to make fun of Walls, but he just does the part so well.
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It's so frenetic and bizarre, which is just what Tim Walls is.
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So he makes fun of, uh, he was, he was at the Al Smith charity dinner.
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That's the white tie dinner that the presidents always go to and everybody in New York goes to, uh, you know, that has lots and lots of money.
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Um, and they, they raise money for Catholic charities and, uh, this is the first time since Mondale that both candidates have not been there.
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Um, and, uh, Mondale, of course, you know, lost.
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I don't know if it's a God thing could be, I don't know.
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Um, but, uh, Kamala Harris decided not to show up and Jim Gaffigan, uh, bless his little heart.
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Uh, he took on both sides hard, which is exactly what a comedian should do.
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Here's here he is making fun of the Democrats last night.
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The Democrats have been telling us Trump, Trump's reelection is a threat to democracy.
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In fact, they were so concerned of this threat.
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They staged a coup, ousted their democratically elected incumbent and installed Kamala Harris.
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It really makes you consider the power of prayer, right?
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Sometimes prayers take three and a half years and a George Clooney op-ed.
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I mean, he's obviously, he didn't want to do this.
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Uh, he said at the end, he just wanted to go up.
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He said, I don't think anything's really funny right now.
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And he said, I just wanted to come up here and, and just talk about that.
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He said, but all of my advisors said, no, don't do that.
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And he said, well, last, last time, four years ago, when I came here, he said, I did a roast.
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And Stu, you and I know, uh, what it's like to do a roast.
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Cause you helped me write a roast that I did in New York with all of the superpower.
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Everybody was telling like cute little stories and taking soft little jabs.
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And I looked at the guy, I was sitting next to him in the dais and, and I looked at the
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guy we were roasting and I said, might've made a huge mistake.
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Uh, cause these guys are not roasting you and all my material tears you apart.
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And he just laughed and he said, that's why I wanted you here.
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Um, but, uh, apparently four years ago, uh, I don't remember this, but he, he appeared mean.
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And, um, he said, I didn't want to repeat that.
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Uh, but, uh, he, he, he did some funny things here.
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Coming in and coming in very, very strong, a certain way.
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I won't tell you what way that is, but Chuck Schumer is here looking very glum.
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But look on the bright side, Chuck, considering how woke your party has become.
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If Kamala loses, you still have a chance to become the first woman president.
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Only the highlights, uh, you know, it came out on X and stuff, but yeah, it was right.
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He was sitting there and he looked, yes, posture.
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And he was sitting and he just looked like my precious.
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You really look like Gollum, but maybe that's just me.
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Uh, here's, uh, Trump talking about the white dudes for Harris.
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It doesn't sound like it, but I'm not worried about them at all because their wives and their
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Uh, on Tim Walz, here's what the president said, but unfortunately, governor Walz is in
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Did you also notice Michael Bloomberg was sitting right in the front, uh, and the guy
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Not a single smile, nothing, no reaction, good or bad.
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I mean, Schumer was rolling his eyes and stuff.
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What the spirit of the event is to go there and you'd laugh at yourself and you, I mean,
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It was interesting to watch cause you're right.
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Schumer who at times would like, you know, roll his arm and roll his eyes, but that's
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an okay reaction at that type of, it is Gaffigan.
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I noticed as well, like actually laughed really hard at some of the jokes, others that were
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like more like the, uh, the female president one.
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He just kind of, he didn't want, he didn't want to react to that one at all.
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But like, generally speaking, I thought everyone was pretty much okay on their reactions, but
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It was like, are you listening to a podcast or something right now?
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He was like that famous footage of the interrogation of one of the murder suspects who just sits
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there in the room by himself for hours and never has a facial expression.
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Uh, he, uh, he also, uh, uh, talked seriously about the assassination attempts.
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Here he is cut for having, uh, recently myself survived to assassination attempts.
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Uh, I have a chart that went down to the right.
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Fortunately, I looked at my all time favorite piece of paper, but it went down and I looked
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to the right and I said, you know, was that luck?
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I have a very fresh appreciation for how blessed we are by God's providence and his divine mercy.
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I mean, that was something I was not supposed to be here tonight that I can tell you.
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So with God's help, I know there is, uh, nothing that cannot be achieved.
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We can achieve so much good with this country and get together and unify.
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I thought that was, I thought that was a really great sentiment.
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Uh, there, there, it is a night where you're supposed to laugh at each other and then come
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together at the end, which, uh, I thought he tried to do, except, except maybe for de Blasio.
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Uh, he took on de Blasio and it wasn't funny at all.
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It was, it was, he was talking about all the former mayors, but the worst one.
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And he's up here and it's not you, Michael Bloomberg.
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You could tell it was, you could tell that Trump was a New Yorker, um, and loves New York,
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uh, and really didn't appreciate de Blasio, uh, at all.
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So, but here's, here's, do you want to, I want to end with miracles, um, because Donald
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Trump was talking about that and it was a night of miracles, uh, especially if you're
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I thought he actually got a few great jokes in.
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I thought the best moment was we talked about the assassination attempts and made light
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of what he's experienced because I think he's experiencing real trauma, real PTSD as
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a result of the shootings, but he's still able to have a light moment in, in, in this
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And he took advantage of the fact that Kamala Harris wasn't there.
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I mean, what this guy won't do to have a job is amazing because that's not his opinion.
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It's clearly not his opinion or maybe his, uh, you know, diehard hate for Trump and Trump
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I don't know what his opinion is, but, uh, that's a complete turnaround for Brian Stelter.
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Well, I mean, I think it was objectively funny at times.
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I mean, you know, it can't, when has he been objective?
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Well, I mean, it's easy to, again, it's easy to be, uh, objective on a moment like that.
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I feel like, you know, like, I mean, you know, Jim Gaffigan is really funny, but he does not
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Uh, but he was able to laugh right at those, at some of those jokes because they were objectively
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Like I, it's more of a throwback to the old times when you could actually admit things
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And if you should be able to admit it, and I give credit to Stelter for admitting it,
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I don't know that anyone else on the panel would do such a thing.
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He is really funny and he has no part, no problem making fun of himself last night.
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Last night he said, you know, they told me I should do some self-deprecating jokes, but
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I mean, here he is making fun of himself on SNL.
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The guy's here to fix the leak on your solid gold faucet.
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When you're in my office, you treat me with respect.
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I'll have you know this is all very classy stuff.
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And that painting of the tiger and the woman has got me laid on numerous occasions.
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Looks like you killed a squirrel to me and put it right on top of your head.
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Yeah, except my hair is supposed to look like this.
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Unless you've done some pretty, you know, have some pretty serious issues.
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You don't own guns because you're hoping to use one on somebody someday.
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No, you do it because you hope to never use them.
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Well, that covers a wide range of emergency situations where violence is called for.
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Because sometimes, let's say you're in a car driving through the city.
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And now your car is surrounded by Hamas protesters pounding on the glass.
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But with my burner launcher, I could roll down my window just a little bit and stick that out and then pull the trigger.
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And within 60 feet, I can put people down on the ground with just a little tear gas.
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If I feel threatened, we're going to put you down on the ground.
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So the video I just played where you had United Kingdom cops asking a guy who was standing outside of an abortion facility,
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Well, we need to know the nature of your prayer.
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I hate to pry, but we're going to need more than that.
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I hate to say this, but we think you're in violation of, you know, their version of the FACE Act.
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Now, the reason why I bring this up is because if you don't think that's coming here, that's already happening in England.
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If you don't think that's coming here with a Kamala Harris administration, you're fooling yourself.
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By the way, if you remember the plan from the World Economic Forum, by 2030, they will be able to read your mind and read your dreams.
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So all they'd have to do is just, I don't know, put a little hat on you, or I don't know exactly how that's going to work.
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And if you think the person who is, I'm sorry to say it this way, but I think it's the only way you can say it.
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The woman who is the most bloodthirsty on abortion I think I've ever seen in any powerful office is not going to do minority report.
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When they're putting people who were, you know, grandmothers in prison.
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We are on the verge of losing your right to speak and to pray.
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They've already lost it because they don't have the First Amendment.
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And the reason why it is hard for people to believe this is because they just, they are, A, being lied to by those who are paying attention in the media.
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And, B, being misled, and not in a malicious way, but the media is so self-centered, so self-righteous, so self-important, that they don't do any homework.
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He is a conservative who was talking about the Ferguson effect on CNN on a panel.
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I think it was yesterday, Ryan, about how, in the context of riots, he was saying, let's just bring the military into it to deal with American citizens.
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But there are, the post-George Floyd riots resulted in excess of over 15,000 black male deaths in this country.
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The surge of violent crime, it was like Ferguson.
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Respectfully, you got to explain to me how George Floyd's death resulted in 15,000 black male deaths in this country.
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What happens is, after the Ferguson riot and after the Floyd riot, policemen, in fear of their jobs many times and political coverage, pull back from their jobs, resulting in an increased level of crime size.
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You can look at the Washington Post numbers on this.
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Ryan, we got to stop you there, because you're literally making a connection out of your own conjecture.
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Accusing him of just making this up out of pure imagination.
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It was a theory at first and then proven to be true.
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Cops stopped doing their jobs because they were afraid that they were going to be next on the chopping block.
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And that resulted in the crime of black on black going up and people getting killed.
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It's really not that hard to put together if you just use some logic.
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I mean, forget the fact that maybe you haven't seen the CDC studies on the Ferguson effect and
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OK, like maybe you just missed out on a major national news story that is tied directly to what you're talking about.
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But like that does occasionally happen for people.
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But the fact that this guy, think about what the country looked like after George Floyd.
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You can't come up with even a basic narrative as to how this would affect people negatively.
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What do you mean you can't come up with any idea how you could connect George Floyd's death to more deaths of African-Americans?
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How is it possible that a human brain cannot noodle this through in mere seconds?
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If you even if you've never heard of it before, which, by the way, is completely unacceptable if you're on a CNN panel about race.
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It's bonkers. And it just shows these people live in these bubbles.
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They are looking at this one conservative on the panel with this sort of like condescending disdain.
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Like you have just like they went on like some conspiracy site and he's come up with this crazy bonkers idea,
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which is well covered by by this this freaking CDC.
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And I should also mention the news network CNN, which wrote articles about the Ferguson effect.
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Yes, it did. And you know what? If if I would have if that would have been my show,
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I would have done a segment the next day saying, Ryan, we need to apologize to you because we didn't know they didn't do that.
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Just move on. Just like Glenn, when in the ABC debate,
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they fact checked Donald Trump about the rising crime rates and said, no, actually, the crime is falling.
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It's falling. And that's one of the that's the biggest event of the year for ABC News.
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The biggest the biggest thing that came out of that debate was all of the fact checking against him.
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And yet when the new the information comes out that actually the crime rate of violent crime rose in this country,
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according to the FBI, there's not and and wait a minute and exactly the way Donald Trump pushed back.
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Yes, exactly. What he said happened is what happened.
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Yep. And they do. They have. I mean, that is almost like almost you could argue should inspire a special by ABC News.
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An entire half hour about crime in the country, how they got this wrong, why they got this wrong and a reversal.
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At the very least, a prominent position on the news broadcast hosted by David Muir, the guy who actually did the fact check.
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He should lead a broadcast saying, look, by the way, in my highest profile moment of my entire career,
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I got a major fact wrong and I want to make sure you know about it.
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Nothing. They've done nothing. They haven't even brought it up.
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It's it's a disgrace beyond even what we normally expect from the mainstream media.
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That's why that's why they have no credibility.
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But remember, they are deemed along with the government as the people that are the arbiters of truth.
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That's another reason you cannot allow Kamala and her cronies to win because they are claiming that they have the
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the handle on truth and it is the government and the media's last word is the correct word.
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Now, there are those people like I think the panelists on the CNN on CNN.
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They honestly just didn't know. They're just not intellectually curious, I guess, or have a bad memory or don't watch CNN.
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I don't know what it is, but I don't think they had ill intent on that.
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However, do you remember the study they did in the 1960s where they separated the class between brown eyes and blue eyes?
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And they showed that when they separated and said this person has brown eyes and brown eyed people are not as good as blue eyed people.
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By the end of the day on the playground, everything it had changed.
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They started separating themselves into groups and looking down their nose at the others.
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This is a TikTok video that shows a mother explaining what her daughter's teacher in California was doing.
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Do you guys think this is normal for them to bring politics into school?
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And if they vote for, I live in California, by the way, but if you vote for Kamala Harris, then you're going to get a pizza party.
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But if you vote for Donald J. Trump, apparently you are excluded.
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That we don't get the pizza party because only the kids that have, only our class that voted Kamal get to eat the pizza party.
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But some of the kids didn't have voted for Kamala, they were voted for Trump.
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So I believe only one period, period five, had a majority for Harris.
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And I said to follow that same spirit because the Democrats are more for feeding the hungry, free medical care, feed more services, just pay higher taxes.
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So the other classes, because they did not vote for Harris, they're not going to get pizza?
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They just do what the conservatives do, which pay for yourself.
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They're going into a minority report asking you what your prayers are about soon in America.
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And they are indoctrinating our kids in all kinds of different things.
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They each came to me themselves and said, Dad, I'm going to vote for so-and-so.
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I can't believe people are going to vote the other way.
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I wouldn't have shunned them if they did vote the other way.
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But if they came up with a good reason or if they even had a bad reason, it's not my vote.
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But how many people even know the truth to be able to vote?
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How many people are thinking today, because of Kamala Harris, that Donald Trump said he was going to release the National Guard and the Army on people he disagrees with?
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He said if there is a riot because of the vote, it should be taking care of the National Guard.
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Exactly what he said two days before January 6th.
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God help those people who have turned good into evil and evil into good.
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Before we get into the book, how are you feeling about the state of the nation?
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Well, nervous like everybody, but pretty good, you know.
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It looks to me like I think that Trump is further ahead than the polls show.
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And I think, you know, there's always chances of fraud and all this stuff.
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But I think another Trump term would not be the worst thing that could happen to us.
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So I think that makes me pretty optimistic at the moment.
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We've been looking at each other and we've been like, okay, don't jinx it, but how do you feel?
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We know it could go the other way, but we feel like it's turning in the right direction.
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I have no idea what the fraud and everything else is going to do, but it's turning towards Trump.
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And I think he's doing a fantastic job myself campaigning.
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If Glenn Beck feels optimistic, it'll probably rain chardonnay.
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Well, you know, this is a book in the Cameron Winter series.
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It starts with Cameron Winter really almost having a nervous breakdown.
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And he becomes obsessed with finding an old girlfriend whom he's never gotten over.
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And he feels that she's being chased down, hunted down by someone who wants to kill her.
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And it takes him into this world of extremist politics that we're all in, of the far right
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and the far left fighting each other on the streets.
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And he's just kind of pulled back from any kind of form of belief.
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Because I wanted to give the audience a chance to kind of look at the place that we're in
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without lectures, without political size, and just show you, I mean, to me, what a novel
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is about, what the arts are about, is showing you the world you're in, you know, showing
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you the culture you're in, so that you have a better perspective on it.
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And what I started with is, how do I solve the problem about writing about America?
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We have to write about our divided politics without lecturing people, without telling people
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what to think, you know, because it's just boring and it doesn't make for good stories.
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So I hope this is a rip-roaring story, but it does take place in a world that you'll
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recognize and hopefully give you a new perspective on it.
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It takes a lot of strength and a lifetime of practice.
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But also, I invented this character, Cameron Winter.
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He's a guy, he's not an atheist, but he doesn't believe.
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So just to write him honestly is to just show you the world from the point of view of, he's
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a good man, he's trying to become a better man.
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And he's got a past that haunts him and all this, but he is trying to become something better
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He doesn't think that there's any system that's going to make everything all right.
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And he's just trying to find a way forward to become something more than he's been in the
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And I think that that kind of, you know, I think all of us are there.
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All people want to be better than they are and live into their best selves.
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And we're doing it at this time where you're just constantly thinking that everything's
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And so how do you become the person you're supposed to be at a time when everything is
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The opportunities, if you look at it the right way, the opportunity we have to be better
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people is unlike anything I think my father experienced in his lifetime.
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Um, you know, he, he was coming of age during world war two, but didn't fight, uh, was too
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Um, and then, you know, then you go into the American empire kind of phase where things
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Uh, he was too old for the 1960s, you know, he was out of, you know, years out of college
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Uh, and so he just kind of was like, you know, I don't know, uh, you know, the Mary Tyler
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Uh, and I wondered how much better of a man he could have be, it could have been.
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And I think he was a good man, but how much better of a man he could have been if he lived
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in times where all the men and women were pushed to the wall and had their backs up against
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the wall and had to decide what side they're on.
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You know, that it's a great question because I'm absolutely convinced that we are in a
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time of massive transition, that what is happening is not, you know, everybody thinks it's the
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It's whatever, you know, it's, it's a terrible, uh, collapse, but the end of something is always
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And I think we're at the verge of a real change in the culture, a real change in the way we look
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And I think the stuff that we've been doing for the last 60 years has failed.
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And you think like, well, what's it going to be?
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And it's going to be like you, it's going to be like each of us make it what we turn
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it into by turning ourselves into something really good.
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If we go for the main chance, we become cynical and absent and turn away from what we know
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Then I think, you know, the country goes down, but I don't think that's going to happen.
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And that's why, that's why I wanted to write novels now about, about a guy in that situation,
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you know, about this kind of transitional moment when everything is on the shift.
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I think this is, these, these are the times that try men's souls, but they're also the
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And I think that that's, that's what we're dealing with.
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And if we don't, you know, if we don't take that on, you know, if we just kind of start
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to whine and say, oh, this is hard and it's harder than it used to be.
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Then, then that's what we'll get, you know, that's the result.
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And isn't it bizarre, isn't it bizarre, Andrew, the way, um, the, we've all changed.
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I mean, there are people, you know, look at RFK, look at what he's doing.
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Both of them from the right or from the left, me from the right, I'm, I'm starting to agree
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with some of the food stuff that RFK is saying.
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And I, you know, I think the, I think the, uh, the right or the left has been right about
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It is so weird that the left has become the party of the elites and the right is finally
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I, you know, I just think, look, you know, you know what I think, you know, that I think
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that when you leave God out of the equation, you're just going to get everything
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And I think that we've been living, you know, when you stand back for a minute and think
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about what the elites have been telling us for the last, I don't know, 20 years, you
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know, men can become women and racism can be solved with more racism.
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And, you know, there's no such thing as good or bad.
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It's just all kind of relative to where you are.
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And I think that you get to that place by making some kind of primary mistake.
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And that's, I think, what the transition that's coming on.
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And if you look around, Glenn, suddenly you've got people who, you know, you even have Richard
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Dawkins sort of saying, well, I kind of like Christmas, you know, because I would be
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sorry, you know, you have Ian Hurley who grew up under this horribly oppressive Islamism
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You know, these things are actually happening and things that you and I have been talking
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And I think that that is like a light at the end of the tunnel.
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I want to go back to the book for a second, because there you take on sex trafficking in
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And it looks a lot like what's in the news right now with Epstein and Diddy and everything
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Were those stories that are in real news, is that what inspired you to take on this evil
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I mean, I worked in Hollywood for a long time, and I'm going to tell you that I believe that
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the stuff that is going out there, Harvey Weinstein didn't even scratch the surface.
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And I think, look, you look at the Catholic churches have this problem.
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Some of the Protestant churches have had this problem.
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And you start and, you know, Jeffrey Epstein is still a mysterious death.
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And I really think that there is something about power that turns people into abusers.
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And we are dealing with a failed elite in this country, a failed leadership class that I think
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is abusing people on a very, very broad scale, or at least in a very deep scale.
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Like, in other words, it goes deep into our culture.
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I think that QAnon thing was absolute nonsense, but it's absolute nonsense that has a layer of
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The way we abuse people for sexual pleasure, and especially young people, at the highest
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levels of power, is something that has deeply corrupted our society.
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And I believe that it begins with the kinds of beliefs that we've been talking about.
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And this is a theme in the books that there's something going on.
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I mean, Winter is a guy who killed people for his government.
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And one of the themes of the books in general is that a soldier never comes back to the country
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And he's come back to a country that he loves, and he's found it corrupt and crumbling and
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And one of the ways that it is corrupt is that this sexual abuse of young people.
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And he has started to realize that it goes very deep.
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And now that throws his whole past into a new light.
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How is he going to continue to be the guy he is, knowing what he knows about what's
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You know, it's one thing to talk about, you know, the deep state and everything else.
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And it's another to ponder what could and is beginning to look like is most likely happening
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I'm talking the whole thing, people with power all over the world.
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And to see that that is, you know, almost what was that Kubrick movie, Eyes Wide Shut, that
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kind of really creepy kind of evil that that might actually be the reality behind these big
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It really is, because there's so much blithering virtue, you know, posturing up at the top.
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And then underneath, when you start to look at it, you know, how is it possible that no
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one has ever been indicted for being one of Jeffrey Epstein's, you know, followers?
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How is it possible that these things never get exposed?
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And again, I don't even think it has to be the kind of conspiracy that you see in the
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movies, it can just be a conspiracy of interest.
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I don't expose you if you don't expose me kind of thing.
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And I just think that these are stories, you know, when I was in Hollywood, what used
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to happen all the time is you start to read stories about some big, you know, gang of
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people who are abusing people and kind of seep up to the top.
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And there would be an article in Variety, the showbiz trade paper saying, you know, people
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are starting to sweat that this is going to come out and then suddenly we just disappear.
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This may have happened three times when I was in Hollywood, separate times.
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And it's got to be because people with a lot of power are turning it off.
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And I think, like, I've been writing about this a lot, but I like it to be threaded through
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my novels, too, because I think it is a part of the culture that we don't see, but we all
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I think it's a sickness that needs to be rooted out.
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Just, I love you, love your work and everything you do.
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I just think you are, you know, there's a handful of people.
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I put people in different categories of trust and the highest level of trust is, would I
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They're now in their 20s, but you've got to take them now, Andrew.