The Glenn Beck Program - October 31, 2023


Best of the Program ｜ Guest： Andrew Klavan ｜ 10⧸31⧸23


Episode Stats

Length

46 minutes

Words per Minute

153.51228

Word Count

7,109

Sentence Count

560

Misogynist Sentences

8

Hate Speech Sentences

30


Summary

On today's episode of The Glenn Beck Program, host Glenn explains why NPR should know better than most when it promotes a story about a writer who devoted an entire year of her life to becoming a witch, and why hip witchcraft is on the rise in America.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hey, by the way, it's Halloween. Halloween. It is time for a scary, scary... You think Glenn Beck is scary on not Halloween? You should hear him... BOOM! On Halloween.
00:00:20.060 You're listening to... The Best of the Glenn Beck Program.
00:00:27.520 Hello, Stu. Glenn, how are you?
00:00:29.540 Oh! Happy Halloween.
00:00:31.480 Oh my gosh. Yeah, happy Halloween to you. And I've got some scary stuff for you today. Scary.
00:00:38.360 Now, this may come as a surprise to you, but I learned this from NPR.
00:00:43.380 Witches are real, and witches are liberal. Politically. Politically, okay?
00:00:50.640 Now, it's no surprise, really, if you want to think about it, really no surprise at all that, you know, witches...
00:00:59.340 Witches are liberal, and NPR would run a fluff piece about witches.
00:01:06.220 The segment featured a writer who devoted an entire year of her life to witchcraft.
00:01:13.940 Now, how'd that work out?
00:01:17.140 Well, here's NPR. Have a listen.
00:01:19.920 Witches have long cast a spell on American entertainment, but they aren't just a figment of our imagination.
00:01:26.980 Witchcraft is a real practice, and people who practice witchcraft are all around you.
00:01:32.260 But what does it even mean to be a witch? I mean, how does one begin a spiritual journey into the occult?
00:01:39.400 Well, one writer decided to figure that out for herself by spending an entire year as a practicing witch.
00:01:45.580 Okay, so let me just say, what does it mean to, you know, how do you even decide to look into a religion of the occult?
00:01:58.240 I don't know. I generally don't.
00:02:01.740 You know, I want to try on some of this occultish stuff.
00:02:05.000 No, no, really, no, not at all.
00:02:08.840 So, they're plugging a lady's book about how witchcraft is a religion and fun, you know, and witchcraft belongs to a religion,
00:02:17.600 but it's not really the one I think they think.
00:02:20.780 Maybe they're not aware of its outcome, but they've chosen that side, and that side cannot actually win.
00:02:27.320 But, how are they so oblivious?
00:02:30.400 Listen to this.
00:02:31.000 It was a month seven before I tried to make a connection with the goddess, who is a central figure in almost every form of witchcraft.
00:02:39.920 Whether or not she's a real deity up in the sky, or she's a metaphor for the interconnectedness of everything on earth,
00:02:46.280 there's this idea of the goddess, and I was hesitant around it because I didn't want to feel like I was playing make-believe.
00:02:53.160 Again, this goes back to just being so afraid of feeling stupid.
00:02:56.080 So, I go, and I set up this ritual to try and talk to a particular goddess, and I'm by myself in my office in Oakland.
00:03:06.120 I'm sitting in front of an altar that I made out of a cardboard box.
00:03:09.020 Sure.
00:03:09.420 I have a stranger's playlist going on Spotify.
00:03:11.680 My cat is on the other side of the door staring at me.
00:03:14.280 And after about an hour,
00:03:16.580 something happened.
00:03:21.020 Hmm.
00:03:23.600 What happened?
00:03:24.400 I just suddenly felt flooded with bliss.
00:03:29.020 She was flooded with bliss.
00:03:31.660 She was flooded with bliss.
00:03:33.300 So, something happened.
00:03:36.140 Flooded with bliss.
00:03:37.800 Okay.
00:03:38.600 Maybe.
00:03:39.260 I don't know.
00:03:40.640 You know, maybe possessed by a demon.
00:03:43.920 I don't know.
00:03:44.560 Is that the bliss that she...
00:03:46.420 I don't...
00:03:47.940 Praying to a goddess.
00:03:51.100 Hmm.
00:03:51.320 Now, my initial reaction to this NPR story was a little eye-rolling.
00:03:57.340 Of course, NPR is on the side with witches.
00:04:01.540 Then, with a little annoyance, a tinge of, oh, wow, we're going to get what we deserve really soon.
00:04:08.280 Um, but there are supposedly, according to NPR, more witches than Presbyterians.
00:04:16.300 Hmm.
00:04:17.300 Okay.
00:04:18.600 USA Today claims we're in the middle of a witch moment.
00:04:22.040 And that hip witchcraft is on the rise in the U.S.
00:04:26.120 Now, I don't know the difference between witchcraft and hip...
00:04:30.060 You know what?
00:04:31.740 You wear hats like this.
00:04:34.980 Now I'm a hip...
00:04:35.760 Now I'm a hip...
00:04:36.820 That's hip?
00:04:37.700 That's a...
00:04:38.480 A hip witchcraft goes with that hat?
00:04:40.660 Well, maybe in Brooklyn.
00:04:42.000 Okay.
00:04:42.340 Maybe.
00:04:42.760 In what year?
00:04:43.720 Okay.
00:04:44.320 So anyway, hip witchcraft is on the rise.
00:04:49.820 And, uh, you'll find articles on witchcraft all throughout the liberal media.
00:04:54.700 May I just say, we used to know words like the occult.
00:04:59.760 We used to know.
00:05:00.520 Hmm.
00:05:00.760 Don't go there.
00:05:01.620 Hmm.
00:05:01.760 I mean, even Michael Jackson addressed it in the...
00:05:04.200 Remember he had to add that little thriller thing?
00:05:05.940 I have no belief in the occult.
00:05:08.020 I swear.
00:05:09.260 You don't remember this?
00:05:09.940 That's not helping the case.
00:05:11.560 No, I mean, I...
00:05:12.500 But, like, it was such an issue that, you know, he made a movie about zombies dancing
00:05:16.840 and he had to have that disclaimer because people didn't like the occult.
00:05:19.880 Correct.
00:05:20.520 Correct.
00:05:20.980 Right?
00:05:21.600 So, here is, uh, here's where I ended up on this story.
00:05:26.120 Actually, a little bit of hope for the future.
00:05:29.380 Because we're just burning ourselves down to the ground.
00:05:33.120 And I think people are waking up.
00:05:34.580 I love all of the stories of, of, uh, Jewish progressives that were on the front lines of
00:05:40.580 everything and they're now going, wait a minute, I think I'm surrounded by anti-Semites.
00:05:45.260 And you're like, yeah, yeah, been trying to tell you that, but you've been calling
00:05:48.420 me an anti-Semite for saying that your friends are anti-Semites.
00:05:51.880 So, anyway, um, what does it mean to be a witch in 2023?
00:05:57.900 What are the demographics?
00:06:00.040 Well, obviously the NPR crowd is into it or else NPR wouldn't be promoting books about
00:06:04.580 witchcraft and the way they do it, the way witchcraft is as trendy and as helpful as veganism
00:06:12.480 or yoga.
00:06:15.060 Intersexuality is the buzzword here.
00:06:16.960 The idea that the pests of society are stronger if they come together, combining their mental
00:06:23.180 illnesses and criminal instincts like those Power Ranger rings.
00:06:27.500 I keep wondering, what is it that unites all of these bizarre and obnoxious people, quite
00:06:34.880 honestly?
00:06:36.300 Well, they claim to be united by all ideas, like witchcraft.
00:06:42.200 Christianity?
00:06:43.320 No, no.
00:06:45.000 All ideas, like the occult.
00:06:48.720 Christianity?
00:06:49.920 No, no.
00:06:52.020 Like anti-racism.
00:06:53.560 Oh, like, okay, everybody can, well, not everybody can reach the goals.
00:06:59.820 I mean, you're white.
00:07:01.920 You shouldn't be allowed to.
00:07:03.420 Oh, okay.
00:07:04.000 I got it.
00:07:05.200 It's all this social justice nonsense.
00:07:07.820 They want the world to believe all of this, but they never stand up for their own belief.
00:07:14.300 Everything they claim to care about actually means nothing to them in reality.
00:07:20.600 You can see this now on our college campuses that wanted diversity.
00:07:26.940 Who's the most downtrodden in the world, in world history?
00:07:32.360 Probably I'd have to say the Jews.
00:07:34.840 Nope, not anymore.
00:07:37.580 Their most consistent characteristic is hypocrisy.
00:07:43.060 Generally, they're unreliable people.
00:07:44.820 I don't know.
00:07:45.360 I try not to hire them.
00:07:46.920 It seems like they're evolving too quick to understand all of this, that the goalposts shifting so fast, they just can't keep track.
00:08:00.000 But in reality, they never deviate from the mission.
00:08:03.300 Well, not mission, because it's really about what motivates them.
00:08:09.220 Why do they act the way they act?
00:08:11.020 Why do they love to throw more tantrums than a teething toddler?
00:08:15.660 Why are they constantly in your face?
00:08:20.280 Why is it they just love to annoy?
00:08:23.860 Well, this is where we get back to witchcraft.
00:08:26.660 Have you ever heard the term?
00:08:29.320 Edgelord.
00:08:30.420 Hang on.
00:08:32.760 Edgelord.
00:08:33.280 Edgelord is a good word to know.
00:08:39.860 Edgelord is a newfangled way to describe a certain personality type.
00:08:43.980 They're an edgelord.
00:08:45.560 It's like the person who's annoying and confrontational for no apparent reason.
00:08:50.860 Although nothing happens for no reason, this is one of the few truths the left still acknowledges.
00:08:57.580 The literal translation of edgelord would be the sarcastic title, lord of being edgy.
00:09:06.500 Merriam-Webster has a definition of edgelord.
00:09:09.300 The word is taken hold to refer to one who makes wildly dark and exaggerated statements, usually on an internet forum, with the intent of shocking others.
00:09:21.080 There is usually a tone of nihilism to such remarks, the kind that might be flagged by a counselor as antisocial behavior.
00:09:30.960 So the Palestinian protests could be deemed full of edgelords.
00:09:40.300 Witchcraft is an edgelord practice.
00:09:44.180 Because what do edgelords want more than anything?
00:09:47.980 They want to seem special.
00:09:50.040 They want to seem very, very special.
00:09:53.580 I'm a witch, you know.
00:09:55.320 Oh.
00:09:56.600 Huh.
00:09:57.800 Well, that is special, I guess.
00:10:01.760 Which is why the most devastating thing you can do to edgelords is to laugh them off.
00:10:09.700 You know why?
00:10:11.100 Stalin was an edgelord.
00:10:13.460 Yeah.
00:10:13.980 Hitler was an edgelord.
00:10:15.540 Mussolini was an edgelord.
00:10:16.900 They don't like it when people laugh at them.
00:10:18.960 Mm-mm.
00:10:20.700 Now, most witches, I hear, are liberal.
00:10:24.700 And it should be no surprise that witchcraft is especially popular among, believe it or not, transgender activists.
00:10:33.540 Which are some of the biggest edgelords on the planet right now.
00:10:38.260 One academic article says contemporary paganism, another word we use to say, bad.
00:10:44.800 Contemporary paganism portrays gender in a array of different ways and, as such, is very inclusive of sexual diversity.
00:10:53.600 No, paganism is?
00:10:55.420 What does the occult have to say?
00:10:58.140 Much of this phenomena happens through what pagans call witchcraft.
00:11:04.700 But how does witchcraft help queer and transgender pagans take part in the pagan community?
00:11:10.040 Well, we looked it up.
00:11:12.060 One website describes witchcraft as an inclusive movement, which tends to appeal to a certain type of demographic.
00:11:20.880 I know that demographic.
00:11:22.080 Weiss wrote about how witchcraft is empowering queer and trans young people.
00:11:31.240 So now they're soliciting, they are promoting witchcraft to trans young people and queer people.
00:11:43.120 The article charts the spread of witchcraft through the history of feminism, pointing out that witchcraft is seeing a resurgence among queer identified young people seeking a powerful identity that celebrates the freedom to choose who you are.
00:11:58.360 Yes, I promise you freedom.
00:12:00.700 Here's the secret.
00:12:02.380 Here's what unites all of them.
00:12:04.120 Witches, leftists, transgender activists, NPR, the liberal media, all of them.
00:12:08.800 These edgelords are fighting for relevance because that's what edgelords do.
00:12:14.920 They pester, they annoy, they shock or try to shock in a bid to get attention.
00:12:20.100 They're fighting for relevance.
00:12:22.580 What they really need is a hug.
00:12:25.520 That's what they need.
00:12:26.520 They need a big old hug.
00:12:28.660 They need love.
00:12:30.720 They need boundaries, limitations.
00:12:33.640 They need to be told because it's like their children.
00:12:36.440 They don't believe that there's any rules at all.
00:12:41.500 Yeah, I know.
00:12:43.220 I remember when my children used to think that, too.
00:12:45.720 Why do we have to go to school?
00:12:48.340 Well, because daddy said so.
00:12:51.880 But remember, love is the fulfillment of law.
00:12:58.140 Yes, your prayers can overtake a million witch curses.
00:13:02.440 In the name of Jesus Christ, get out of here.
00:13:06.440 Oh, I love that.
00:13:09.060 The victory is already won.
00:13:11.860 The best thing we can do is try to be aware that and teach our kids, hey, witchcraft, paganism, the occult, not something we should experiment with.
00:13:24.140 You know who did?
00:13:25.800 Hitler.
00:13:27.080 Oh, my gosh.
00:13:28.420 And Hitler loved the Palestinian movement.
00:13:33.040 They have so much in common.
00:13:35.880 Is it all starting to come clear now?
00:13:38.680 The best thing we can do with any and every edge sword is to pray for their eternal soul.
00:13:43.940 Other than that, hedgelords lose their power when people stop watching them or stop caring.
00:13:53.640 But I'm never going to stop caring.
00:13:56.360 I'm going to love you and love you and love you.
00:13:59.460 I'm going to show you the love of a real God.
00:14:03.360 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program.
00:14:10.120 So I want to read a story here.
00:14:11.700 The Great Betrayal.
00:14:13.240 Now in the news today from the Free Press.
00:14:15.540 After Donald Trump was elected, Emily Rose, 51, flew to New York with her daughter to walk in the Women's March.
00:14:22.240 She demonstrated on the streets of Minneapolis, where she lives in the days after George Floyd's murder.
00:14:27.360 She donated money to small black-led movements and social justice organizations she believed in.
00:14:34.560 She unlearned and then re-educated herself as a white American as she was instructed to read the teachings of anti-racist scholars.
00:14:43.420 But then, after the massacre in Israel on October 7th, when some 1,400 Jews were brutally murdered, not to mention the rapes, beheadings, and instances of torture,
00:14:57.140 Rose began to notice something odd from the cohort of fellow progressives she admired.
00:15:02.380 They were cheering for the other side.
00:15:05.020 She said, quote,
00:15:06.000 I started to see these intelligent, educated people whose missions is to make our system better for people of color suddenly posting all this anti-Israel, pro-Palestinian stuff.
00:15:15.980 I'm not changing my values, but screw the allyship.
00:15:19.900 I'm not going to stop fighting because I believe in the causes themselves.
00:15:22.900 But as for going out of my way to support, to post, to give money, I'm done.
00:15:26.600 While professional politics or politicos like DSA founder Maurice Eisserman are publicly stepping down from their parties and denouncing the organizations that justify or even cheer the events of October 7th,
00:15:42.540 and wealthy Jewish donors claw back their millions from elite universities that they say helped foment anti-Semitism on their campuses,
00:15:50.960 there's a quieter, more personal reckoning happening among progressive Jews.
00:15:56.520 Like Rose, they feel betrayed by a left that they thought would have their backs.
00:16:01.520 Dov, a 30-year-old Canadian musician who didn't want to share her last name for privacy reasons,
00:16:08.280 is transgendered and self-proclaimed political progressive.
00:16:12.560 But since October 7th, she says,
00:16:15.000 Every time I open Instagram, I'm just, like, blocking or deleting people that I thought I knew.
00:16:21.820 It's cloaked anti-Semitism.
00:16:24.480 Josh Gilman, 37, lives in Arizona, prides himself on having friends across the political spectrum,
00:16:29.240 says he's been muting even close friends who espouse anti-Zionist views.
00:16:34.260 I don't need the emotional distress.
00:16:36.200 If there's someone who is truly my friend, it makes me feel that there's,
00:16:40.260 they very much don't understand who I am as a person.
00:16:42.900 He cut people out who he had invited to dinner at his home,
00:16:46.520 and he had trusted around his family and children.
00:16:49.220 There is a line in the sand, he said.
00:16:52.440 Nate Clark, 34, lives in Virginia.
00:16:54.720 He's marched for gay rights in 2020 for the removal of statues of Confederate soldiers in his home state.
00:17:00.580 He said his choice to stand up for others is rooted in his Jewish identity.
00:17:05.340 As a Jew, I felt it would be weird if I went to Germany and took a right turn down Hitler Avenue
00:17:10.620 or saw a statue of Eichmann and then heard people say,
00:17:14.120 Oh, it's our history. We're just proud of our history.
00:17:17.340 Since October 7th, he's found himself politically homeless.
00:17:22.480 The Jewish progressives the free press spoke to said they no longer believe in a left that sees their own people's plight.
00:17:29.220 They feel torn.
00:17:30.340 They don't want to give up on their progressive causes, but they've marched for and believe in them.
00:17:34.800 And they don't feel kinship with Israel's allies on the right, like evangelical Christians and social conservatives.
00:17:42.840 When you look at the political right, you see a group that seems very comfortable with Jews in Israel
00:17:47.780 and very uncomfortable with Jews at home.
00:17:50.760 When you look at the political left, you see a group that seems very comfortable with Jews at home
00:17:55.600 and very uncomfortable with Jews in Israel.
00:17:57.980 Amelia Adams, a writer and comedian in New York, said she first noticed Jewish suffering being downplayed in May 2021
00:18:06.120 during the last bout of violence between Hamas and Israel.
00:18:09.580 She called it the start of gaslighting.
00:18:12.800 She said now it's at another level.
00:18:18.660 So the one thing I'm sad about, and I think it's true,
00:18:24.420 is they don't feel kinship with Israel's allies on the right, like evangelical Christians and social conservatives.
00:18:31.960 This isn't just an American thing.
00:18:35.720 Many of the Jews in Jerusalem are uncomfortable with American liberal Jews.
00:18:43.060 Many of the Jews in Tel Aviv are very not accepting of the Jews who are practicing their faith in traditional ways.
00:18:58.220 That is the divide here.
00:19:00.400 It's whether you are applying the laws of the Torah or of the Bible in Christian's case,
00:19:08.420 and you're actually living them, or if you dismiss that and just put religion in with culture.
00:19:18.020 It is culture, but it is more than culture.
00:19:22.440 It is a way that directs your life.
00:19:26.140 It's a way that helps you make decisions every day.
00:19:29.360 And for those of us who actually believe in those things,
00:19:33.640 it is hard to understand people who might have the same background,
00:19:40.560 but they've lost why they are different.
00:19:46.220 They've lost the understanding of what sets them apart,
00:19:50.720 the miracle of the establishment or reestablishment of Israel.
00:19:56.960 But I would love to have these conversations with people.
00:20:03.480 I would love to.
00:20:06.820 You know, I have many Jewish friends who are not conservative like I am,
00:20:14.380 but we respect each other.
00:20:16.820 And I don't think that they're off into the never-never world of, you know, craziness.
00:20:21.880 But they don't agree with me necessarily politically.
00:20:28.880 And we have talked about this for a long time,
00:20:32.760 and they have disagreed with me on people like George Soros.
00:20:36.340 And I'm sorry, but you're being naive.
00:20:39.900 You're being naive.
00:20:43.120 So what brings us together as people?
00:20:45.700 See, we have constantly thought that our diversity is our strength, but it's not.
00:20:52.240 Our diversity is dividing us, and it's divided us so far.
00:20:59.520 It's like, you know, our diversity is the spice of life.
00:21:06.800 It really is what makes all of us different, and it's great.
00:21:10.920 But if you're making a meal, and you put too much spice into it,
00:21:17.960 the entire meal becomes inedible.
00:21:21.380 It has to be balanced.
00:21:24.820 What brings, the spice is supposed to bring out certain flavors in the food.
00:21:31.340 It's not a rejection of the food.
00:21:33.920 And our spice, our differences, has gotten so powerful and so strong,
00:21:40.740 it's a rejection of the main meal.
00:21:45.520 It thinks that it is more important than the meat.
00:21:49.780 It's not.
00:21:53.160 People came here for an idea.
00:21:58.260 In fact, several ideas.
00:21:59.700 Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
00:22:01.440 So for anybody who feels politically homeless, I understand.
00:22:08.060 I feel politically homeless.
00:22:10.160 Many on my side feel politically homeless because we don't think that the Republicans represent us at all
00:22:17.100 because they're playing games.
00:22:20.200 Some of us, we really believe in things.
00:22:24.240 And if you're like that, and you really, truly believe in things,
00:22:29.000 and you marched because you believe in it, I get it.
00:22:32.780 Just like we said during the George Floyd thing,
00:22:37.020 there is a reason we all actually agree,
00:22:41.540 but then political entities like BLM, Inc.,
00:22:46.960 that's a global corporation,
00:22:49.560 they were using the people.
00:22:54.360 They believe in the destruction of the family.
00:22:57.220 You don't believe in the destruction of the family.
00:22:59.080 That's their goal, one of their goals.
00:23:02.280 The destruction of the nuclear family.
00:23:06.780 What happened is you were had.
00:23:08.920 And I don't know why, but it's happened to me.
00:23:12.940 It's happened to a lot of us.
00:23:15.180 You just get had.
00:23:17.660 So, how can we come back together?
00:23:22.680 We all believe in equality.
00:23:26.700 Now, I know there's Nazis on all sides, apparently.
00:23:29.980 But those who actually understand America and our Bill of Rights,
00:23:36.740 which used to be very important to the liberal Jewish community,
00:23:42.720 our Bill of Rights guarantees these things.
00:23:46.220 Equality.
00:23:47.240 We believe that all individuals, regardless of their background,
00:23:51.300 deserve equal rights and opportunities.
00:23:54.040 Where we might differ a bit is if it is to the detriment of another group.
00:24:02.840 And it has to be based on merit.
00:24:06.820 How does graduating an entire class of students
00:24:11.020 that cannot pass basic reading and math tests
00:24:14.620 serve equality?
00:24:17.880 That only paralyzes those people.
00:24:21.200 I don't care what color they are.
00:24:23.320 We need to understand people's backgrounds and challenges,
00:24:27.600 but we do not need pilots that can't pass basic math tests.
00:24:33.600 There are standards for bridge builders.
00:24:38.180 We hurt people when we don't hold them accountable.
00:24:45.660 We believe in freedom.
00:24:47.520 That's a core value.
00:24:49.480 And it's not just political freedom,
00:24:51.000 but also freedom of speech, religion, and expression.
00:24:55.840 You may not have been for the Second Amendment,
00:24:58.460 but the right to defend yourself,
00:25:00.180 I think you might have gotten after October 7th.
00:25:02.900 You have a natural right to be able to defend yourself and your family.
00:25:08.120 If someone comes in with a gun,
00:25:10.680 you need to be able to protect yourself and your family.
00:25:14.280 It's your responsibility.
00:25:17.260 And it's the responsibility of the society we all are in
00:25:21.360 to enforce the laws when they are broken
00:25:25.240 and not excuse them.
00:25:27.800 We're not excusing.
00:25:30.300 I, you know,
00:25:31.240 the Palestinian people,
00:25:32.400 I think have been used by everybody.
00:25:35.180 Everybody.
00:25:35.980 And nobody seems to care about them in the Middle East.
00:25:38.600 No one.
00:25:39.300 They don't want them.
00:25:40.100 Nobody wants them.
00:25:41.300 But they'll use them.
00:25:42.640 But we don't take that plight
00:25:47.740 and excuse kidnapping,
00:25:51.640 rape,
00:25:52.380 beheading,
00:25:53.620 killing of innocents.
00:25:54.800 We don't.
00:25:55.880 There's no excuse for that.
00:25:57.500 Nobody marched into Germany
00:25:59.140 and went,
00:26:00.280 well, you know,
00:26:00.980 it was the Versailles Treaty.
00:26:02.920 I mean,
00:26:03.280 and then France insisted
00:26:05.060 that they take some of their land
00:26:06.980 and then they were taking the crops
00:26:09.040 because they couldn't.
00:26:10.100 I mean,
00:26:10.580 we really created Hitler.
00:26:12.280 I think in a way,
00:26:13.680 Woodrow Wilson did
00:26:14.940 set the conditions for Hitler.
00:26:17.220 But that doesn't excuse
00:26:18.820 a single German
00:26:20.360 for participating in
00:26:22.420 or remaining silent
00:26:24.020 on the Holocaust.
00:26:26.560 We don't say,
00:26:27.380 well,
00:26:27.660 we have to understand them.
00:26:28.880 No, we don't.
00:26:29.900 No, we don't.
00:26:31.020 There are lines we do not cross.
00:26:34.260 We believe in democracy
00:26:36.620 in our republic.
00:26:39.560 The principle that the government
00:26:41.380 derives its power
00:26:42.600 from the consent
00:26:43.400 of the governed.
00:26:44.360 We agree.
00:26:46.280 We agree on ensuring
00:26:47.700 the right for representation
00:26:49.220 in our constitutional republic.
00:26:51.200 We actually also really agree
00:26:53.740 on protecting the vote.
00:26:58.520 We're being lied to
00:27:00.100 by both parties.
00:27:01.660 Neither of them really want to fix it.
00:27:03.700 We believe in opportunity.
00:27:08.620 The so-called American dream,
00:27:10.360 the belief that with hard work,
00:27:11.920 anyone can improve
00:27:12.920 their circumstance
00:27:13.680 and achieve success.
00:27:15.820 I've seen it done
00:27:17.020 over and over and over again.
00:27:19.080 And do some people
00:27:19.800 need a helping hand?
00:27:20.880 Yes.
00:27:21.780 Can we be better?
00:27:23.200 Yes.
00:27:25.520 Unity.
00:27:26.840 We agree on this.
00:27:28.540 Despite diversity in thought,
00:27:32.520 background,
00:27:33.140 and beliefs,
00:27:33.760 the idea of being united,
00:27:35.960 one nation,
00:27:37.620 remains powerful
00:27:39.300 for most people.
00:27:41.080 We don't want to break up.
00:27:43.180 We need to learn
00:27:44.140 how to live with one another.
00:27:47.760 Resilience,
00:27:48.540 the ability to overcome
00:27:49.600 challenges and adversity.
00:27:52.120 That's the pioneer.
00:27:53.760 That's the immigrant.
00:27:55.360 That's the movements
00:27:56.980 that have shaped the nation.
00:27:59.160 Resilience.
00:27:59.960 We believe in that.
00:28:00.860 Now,
00:28:01.300 I don't know if we do.
00:28:02.480 The left doesn't.
00:28:05.300 Civic responsibility.
00:28:07.420 The belief in participating
00:28:08.540 in civic duties,
00:28:09.720 voting,
00:28:10.260 volunteering,
00:28:10.940 being informed
00:28:11.660 about national
00:28:12.540 and local issues.
00:28:15.400 And like I said,
00:28:16.940 yes,
00:28:17.400 respect for diversity.
00:28:20.320 But as a melting pot,
00:28:22.360 we melt into each other.
00:28:25.620 We don't reject
00:28:26.740 the meat
00:28:27.580 of our Bill of Rights,
00:28:30.420 of what built us.
00:28:32.900 This adds our spice.
00:28:36.340 Our strength
00:28:37.720 does not come
00:28:38.820 from diversity
00:28:39.720 and multiculturalism.
00:28:42.060 The spice
00:28:43.080 comes from that.
00:28:44.400 Our strength
00:28:45.440 comes from
00:28:46.620 the Bill of Rights.
00:28:47.480 I invite you
00:28:50.440 to join us
00:28:51.380 back
00:28:51.940 into
00:28:52.360 common sense.
00:28:54.480 We may disagree
00:28:55.200 on a lot of things,
00:28:56.240 but
00:28:56.360 we believe
00:28:57.980 that people
00:28:58.400 shouldn't be killed.
00:28:59.480 Innocent people.
00:29:04.680 The best
00:29:05.520 of the Glenn Beck program.
00:29:07.840 Mr. Andrew Klaben,
00:29:09.320 welcome to the program, sir.
00:29:11.400 Thank you very much.
00:29:12.420 You have the most
00:29:12.920 entertaining commercials
00:29:13.960 on the air.
00:29:15.520 How are you?
00:29:16.300 It's so good
00:29:17.760 to talk to you.
00:29:18.420 Very good.
00:29:19.080 Very good.
00:29:20.720 I guess you're here
00:29:22.380 because you want
00:29:22.760 to talk about
00:29:23.480 this book called
00:29:24.560 The House of Love
00:29:25.960 and Death,
00:29:27.160 which is
00:29:27.620 fantastic,
00:29:29.960 Andrew.
00:29:30.360 I'm not going
00:29:30.760 to say that
00:29:31.140 on the air.
00:29:31.700 Oops,
00:29:32.080 we're on the air.
00:29:32.680 Can stations edit
00:29:33.520 this out?
00:29:35.700 It's fantastic,
00:29:37.540 Andrew.
00:29:37.840 Really fantastic.
00:29:38.840 Now,
00:29:39.140 let me just ask you
00:29:40.600 a couple of questions.
00:29:41.520 A couple of questions
00:29:42.140 on it.
00:29:42.360 All right.
00:29:42.600 the lead character,
00:29:46.620 Cameron Winter,
00:29:47.860 tough guy,
00:29:49.100 old soul,
00:29:50.480 loves classic literature,
00:29:52.480 loves seeing bad guys
00:29:54.020 get punished.
00:29:55.940 Really,
00:29:56.540 really smart.
00:29:58.560 He sounds
00:29:59.540 a little like you.
00:30:02.500 Well,
00:30:03.220 he's much better looking.
00:30:04.740 That's the first thing.
00:30:05.720 Well,
00:30:06.360 that's not hard.
00:30:08.860 That elevates him.
00:30:11.320 But he is the development
00:30:13.120 of the things
00:30:13.720 I've been working on
00:30:14.740 all my life
00:30:15.380 about,
00:30:16.000 you know,
00:30:16.180 the question of
00:30:16.880 how you can be a good man
00:30:18.420 in a bad society,
00:30:19.600 how you can hold
00:30:20.820 an ideal inside of yourself
00:30:22.720 without becoming
00:30:23.420 a fool,
00:30:24.520 you know,
00:30:24.780 and without expecting
00:30:25.920 the world to live up
00:30:26.820 to your ideals
00:30:27.440 while you expect
00:30:28.020 yourself to do it.
00:30:29.060 These are things
00:30:29.540 that came to me
00:30:30.600 as a kid
00:30:31.380 from all the tough guy
00:30:32.300 literature I read.
00:30:33.760 And it just seemed,
00:30:34.680 you know,
00:30:34.820 I was basically
00:30:36.140 in the year 2000,
00:30:38.260 I was watching TV
00:30:39.400 and I saw all these,
00:30:40.560 all these antiheroes
00:30:42.360 come in,
00:30:42.760 you know,
00:30:42.940 the Sopranos,
00:30:43.760 the Breaking Bad
00:30:44.480 and the Shield
00:30:45.080 and all the one after
00:30:45.800 and I've been writing
00:30:46.740 those in the 1990s.
00:30:48.340 I've been writing
00:30:48.740 them for 10 years
00:30:49.420 before that
00:30:50.040 and I started to think,
00:30:51.480 you know,
00:30:51.960 it's time to see
00:30:53.040 how the bad guy
00:30:54.240 becomes a good guy,
00:30:55.780 how the antihero
00:30:56.480 becomes a hero again.
00:30:57.740 Yes.
00:30:58.180 Because I thought
00:30:59.560 those guys
00:31:00.320 were basically
00:31:01.000 an expression
00:31:01.700 of outlawed masculinity.
00:31:03.980 I thought the idea
00:31:04.740 was you're not
00:31:05.380 allowed to be a man
00:31:06.080 so only an outlaw
00:31:06.920 can be a man
00:31:07.460 so we're going
00:31:07.780 to tell stories
00:31:08.280 about outlaws
00:31:08.860 because we want
00:31:09.720 to hear stories
00:31:10.420 about men.
00:31:11.740 And I think like,
00:31:13.260 my problem with that
00:31:15.040 obviously is you wind up,
00:31:16.580 you don't want
00:31:16.960 to wind up
00:31:17.680 admiring the Sopranos
00:31:19.460 or admiring a meth dealer.
00:31:22.000 You know,
00:31:22.140 and that's I think
00:31:22.920 the position
00:31:23.720 we put men in
00:31:24.520 is why they follow
00:31:25.280 a guy like Andrew Tate
00:31:26.700 who's a pimp
00:31:27.380 and a woman abuser
00:31:28.300 because at least
00:31:29.260 he speaks bluntly,
00:31:30.640 at least he speaks
00:31:31.780 something that resembles
00:31:32.940 the truth
00:31:33.500 as opposed to
00:31:34.320 all the polite
00:31:35.180 politically correct
00:31:36.260 lies we're supposed to do.
00:31:37.280 I find myself
00:31:38.540 strangely attracted
00:31:39.580 to Yellowstone
00:31:40.920 for the same reason.
00:31:42.820 I love the family values
00:31:46.460 except their family
00:31:48.080 kills people.
00:31:49.780 You know what I mean?
00:31:50.660 It's like,
00:31:51.520 we want the old America back,
00:31:53.880 the one that makes sense.
00:31:55.580 Hang him.
00:31:56.360 You know,
00:31:56.760 you're like,
00:31:57.220 no, wait,
00:31:58.080 hold it,
00:31:58.580 something just happened.
00:31:59.420 Yes,
00:32:01.900 you know,
00:32:02.400 that's it.
00:32:03.340 So I made this character
00:32:04.920 who has done all that.
00:32:06.340 He's done all the killing.
00:32:07.580 He's done the stuff
00:32:08.840 that made him a bad guy
00:32:09.920 and now he started to think,
00:32:11.200 wait a minute,
00:32:11.640 this is not who
00:32:12.240 I started out to be.
00:32:13.640 How do I make my way back?
00:32:15.440 How do I make my way back?
00:32:16.540 And those are the questions
00:32:17.680 that the novels
00:32:18.620 are sort of asking
00:32:19.360 one at a time
00:32:20.220 as he tries to find out
00:32:21.840 the person that he was
00:32:22.540 supposed to be.
00:32:23.260 You know,
00:32:23.400 it's not that simple.
00:32:24.880 You know,
00:32:25.060 it's not a simple thing
00:32:26.500 to say in a society
00:32:28.340 like ours
00:32:29.040 where people
00:32:30.100 are just lying constantly
00:32:31.600 telling you things
00:32:32.520 about sex that aren't true,
00:32:33.720 telling you things
00:32:34.140 about money that aren't true,
00:32:35.200 telling you all these things
00:32:36.040 that aren't true.
00:32:36.760 It's not easy
00:32:37.380 to speak the truth
00:32:38.260 and take the hits
00:32:39.680 that you have to take
00:32:40.420 to get thrown off
00:32:41.120 your social media
00:32:42.340 to be hounded out of school,
00:32:44.740 to be hounded out of jobs.
00:32:45.820 How does he do that?
00:32:46.880 How does he make that happen,
00:32:48.580 especially as he's working
00:32:49.520 at a university
00:32:50.220 with all these stuff,
00:32:51.340 this stuff festers?
00:32:52.500 So it is kind of a reflection
00:32:54.680 of things I've been thinking about,
00:32:56.060 though as I say,
00:32:57.020 he's a much,
00:32:57.740 much better looking guy
00:32:58.500 than I am.
00:32:58.760 And he's also a,
00:33:01.000 the book also takes on
00:33:03.420 a lot of stuff,
00:33:04.540 but it's all kind of undercurrent,
00:33:07.680 never really takes it on
00:33:09.380 in some ways,
00:33:10.600 just it's a reflection of today.
00:33:13.380 Let me give you a few lines.
00:33:15.180 He had a white,
00:33:15.980 brilliant smile.
00:33:17.080 I can't,
00:33:17.740 I can't stop looking at you.
00:33:19.680 I'm not beautiful.
00:33:20.760 I'm not even sure
00:33:21.460 I want to be a girl yet.
00:33:23.120 Oh, he said,
00:33:24.340 oh, be a girl.
00:33:25.400 And on the instant,
00:33:26.820 she utterly was.
00:33:28.720 Another one.
00:33:29.720 And you what?
00:33:30.700 Don't think Mateo's
00:33:31.880 the murdering kind?
00:33:33.480 More or less.
00:33:34.640 Could he wipe out
00:33:35.280 an entire family like that?
00:33:36.640 Almost certainly not.
00:33:37.860 Were you aware
00:33:38.580 he was addicted
00:33:39.320 to violent pornography?
00:33:41.460 I wasn't.
00:33:43.540 Here's another one.
00:33:45.500 Mateo and Lilia
00:33:46.200 playing a VR game together
00:33:47.540 in which he's bullied
00:33:48.700 by anonymous player.
00:33:51.140 Multiple players
00:33:52.600 get tied up
00:33:53.400 with a mob
00:33:55.040 of illegal drug runners.
00:33:57.260 The inspector
00:33:58.000 who's in cahoots
00:33:58.920 with the Mexican drug runners
00:34:00.100 tries to deflect
00:34:01.120 any criticism
00:34:01.940 by decrying racism.
00:34:04.420 Feds have been
00:34:04.860 dumping illegals
00:34:05.680 up here for years.
00:34:06.780 Mexicans mostly
00:34:07.680 and some of them
00:34:08.420 further south.
00:34:09.280 Bus them in
00:34:09.820 or fly them
00:34:10.440 right up to the border.
00:34:11.820 They break the law.
00:34:12.620 They sneak into the country.
00:34:13.760 Next thing you know,
00:34:14.480 they're here in Maidenville.
00:34:16.820 Maidenvale.
00:34:17.700 Feds just drop them off
00:34:19.080 and we're supposed
00:34:19.500 to deal with it.
00:34:20.500 Changes the whole
00:34:21.220 demographics of the place.
00:34:23.000 And what are we
00:34:23.480 supposed to do?
00:34:24.520 Pull jobs for them
00:34:25.620 out of the air?
00:34:26.600 This is a nice town.
00:34:27.880 Nice people here.
00:34:28.760 They work hard
00:34:29.420 to get where they are.
00:34:30.280 It's not that
00:34:31.460 they're being mean
00:34:32.340 or anything.
00:34:32.960 It's just too much,
00:34:33.740 too fast,
00:34:34.440 if you know what I'm saying.
00:34:35.980 I mean,
00:34:36.460 mental health,
00:34:37.380 all of it.
00:34:38.060 You hit all of it.
00:34:40.100 But it's not...
00:34:42.020 What?
00:34:43.360 It's where we live.
00:34:44.640 You know,
00:34:44.960 I'm just setting a story
00:34:46.000 in the place
00:34:46.480 that we live in
00:34:47.160 and not trying
00:34:48.260 to lie about it.
00:34:48.980 That's all I'm doing.
00:34:49.820 I'm not...
00:34:50.600 I'm all about the story.
00:34:52.080 That's all I care about.
00:34:53.560 But I'm not going to
00:34:54.140 set it in fairyland.
00:34:55.180 I'm tired of turning
00:34:56.240 on Netflix
00:34:56.940 and watching a world
00:34:57.880 that doesn't exist
00:34:58.780 and being told
00:34:59.980 that my moral structure
00:35:01.300 can only adhere
00:35:02.320 in this fantasy world.
00:35:04.240 I want to know
00:35:05.260 what it means
00:35:05.940 to be a good man
00:35:06.820 in this world.
00:35:07.820 And believe me,
00:35:08.640 I get a lot of crap
00:35:10.700 for this,
00:35:11.180 you know,
00:35:11.340 even from my own people,
00:35:13.400 my own editors and things,
00:35:14.560 you know,
00:35:14.720 take that out.
00:35:15.680 People alienate people
00:35:16.980 and all this.
00:35:17.780 But it's the world.
00:35:19.080 It's just,
00:35:19.520 what is my job?
00:35:20.540 My job is to tell stories
00:35:21.880 about the world,
00:35:23.260 you know,
00:35:23.520 and that's what I do.
00:35:24.780 And that's not...
00:35:26.060 Yeah.
00:35:26.400 So what does it mean,
00:35:27.700 Andrew,
00:35:27.960 to be a good man
00:35:29.440 in today's world?
00:35:31.540 Well,
00:35:31.960 I think it does begin
00:35:33.020 with the truth.
00:35:33.860 I mean,
00:35:34.040 I think this is...
00:35:35.080 The thing that made me
00:35:36.180 a mystery writer,
00:35:37.540 the line that made me
00:35:39.140 a mystery writer,
00:35:39.860 was the first page
00:35:41.040 of Raymond Chandler's
00:35:42.300 The Big Sleep,
00:35:43.440 his tough guy,
00:35:44.020 detective Philip Marlowe,
00:35:45.760 comes to a mansion
00:35:47.320 and he sees
00:35:48.140 a stained glass window
00:35:49.680 with a picture
00:35:50.700 of a knight
00:35:51.320 trying to rescue a lady.
00:35:53.600 And Philip Marlowe
00:35:54.400 says to himself,
00:35:55.100 if I lived in this house,
00:35:56.300 I would have to climb up there
00:35:57.480 and help him
00:35:57.940 because he's just not
00:35:58.780 getting the job done.
00:35:59.720 And I remember
00:36:01.300 when I was 15 years old,
00:36:03.060 I read that
00:36:03.500 and I thought,
00:36:04.180 yes,
00:36:05.000 that's who I want to be
00:36:06.060 because he's like this
00:36:07.920 small,
00:36:09.460 seedy,
00:36:10.120 private detective
00:36:10.940 in a small,
00:36:11.800 seedy job.
00:36:12.480 He doesn't make any money.
00:36:13.680 He lives in modern Los Angeles,
00:36:15.180 which is a terrible place.
00:36:16.900 It's corrupt.
00:36:17.820 Everybody,
00:36:18.400 you know,
00:36:18.620 everything is swept
00:36:19.540 under the carpet.
00:36:20.740 But he's got this knight
00:36:21.820 inside him
00:36:22.400 that he carries around
00:36:23.360 and he understands
00:36:24.160 it's going to get beaten up,
00:36:25.200 it's going to get shot at,
00:36:26.160 it's going to get him arrested,
00:36:27.160 but he's just going to
00:36:28.300 carry it around.
00:36:29.820 And Chandler
00:36:30.540 had this great line,
00:36:31.580 which is where we get
00:36:32.180 the phrase mean streets.
00:36:34.260 He said,
00:36:34.600 down these mean streets
00:36:35.800 a man must go
00:36:36.720 who is not himself mean,
00:36:38.500 who is neither tarnished
00:36:39.480 nor afraid.
00:36:40.460 And I remember at 15
00:36:41.700 just thinking,
00:36:42.680 that's what I want.
00:36:44.160 That's what I want of myself.
00:36:45.460 That's the way I want
00:36:46.160 the world to be for me.
00:36:47.960 And that's the way,
00:36:48.600 the kind of people
00:36:49.220 I want to write about.
00:36:50.860 But I got kind of sidetracked
00:36:53.500 into antiheroes
00:36:54.640 because I was feeling
00:36:56.280 the same way
00:36:56.980 as everybody else.
00:36:58.000 There was no place
00:36:58.900 for men to be men.
00:37:00.040 So I might as well
00:37:00.700 make them bad guys.
00:37:01.740 And at least that way
00:37:02.700 they could act freely.
00:37:04.200 And now I just feel like,
00:37:05.240 all right,
00:37:05.480 that idea has played itself out.
00:37:07.120 We've looked at that.
00:37:08.080 We've seen the Breaking Bad.
00:37:09.100 We've seen the Sopranos.
00:37:10.440 What does it mean
00:37:11.160 to not be like that?
00:37:12.200 What does it mean
00:37:12.680 to do what Chandler said,
00:37:13.880 to go down the mean streets
00:37:15.040 and not be mean?
00:37:16.240 And for me,
00:37:16.980 it begins with the truth.
00:37:18.160 It begins with speaking the truth,
00:37:19.820 seeing the truth,
00:37:20.640 not avoiding the truth,
00:37:21.660 and then acting in a way
00:37:23.420 that you know
00:37:24.080 might get you canceled,
00:37:26.020 might get you hurt,
00:37:26.880 might get you killed,
00:37:27.580 but you're going to do it anyway
00:37:28.860 because that's what you are
00:37:29.900 carrying inside you.
00:37:31.660 And to me,
00:37:32.480 if that's not a basic
00:37:33.540 Christian idea
00:37:34.580 of like take up your cross,
00:37:36.460 I don't know what it is.
00:37:37.540 It's basically putting that
00:37:39.160 in the modern world
00:37:40.060 and taking the sandals off it
00:37:42.100 and saying,
00:37:42.800 no,
00:37:43.360 this is what you have to do
00:37:45.080 just to wake up in the morning
00:37:46.320 and look in the mirror
00:37:47.160 and not feel like
00:37:48.080 you're looking at a jerk
00:37:49.380 and not feel like
00:37:50.140 you've lost something
00:37:51.520 that was given to you
00:37:52.240 at the beginning.
00:37:53.300 This is what you have to do.
00:37:54.540 And so that's,
00:37:55.380 it's a hard thing
00:37:56.320 and it's a hard thing
00:37:56.900 especially because all of us
00:37:57.920 have a past
00:37:58.560 and all of us
00:37:59.100 have made terrible mistakes
00:38:00.600 and all of us
00:38:01.740 have to deal with
00:38:02.400 those things first
00:38:03.340 before moving forward.
00:38:04.480 And that's why
00:38:04.960 Cameron Winter's stories
00:38:06.860 always go back and forth.
00:38:08.020 He always tells about the past
00:38:09.140 and the things he's done
00:38:10.020 and then about the present
00:38:12.040 and the story
00:38:12.640 that he's in at the moment
00:38:13.700 because he has to deal
00:38:14.900 with the things,
00:38:15.880 the bad things
00:38:16.600 before he can get on
00:38:17.360 to something better.
00:38:18.760 Publishers Weekly says
00:38:20.260 it's gripping the best yet
00:38:22.120 Cameron Winter mystery series book.
00:38:25.540 It's the house of love and death.
00:38:27.940 Andrew Klavan.
00:38:29.080 So, Andrew,
00:38:30.160 can I take you
00:38:31.400 for a couple of minutes
00:38:32.400 and ask you
00:38:33.820 about the world
00:38:35.120 we're living in?
00:38:37.220 Absolutely.
00:38:38.100 I'm,
00:38:38.540 I'm,
00:38:39.100 I am shocked
00:38:41.060 at how many times
00:38:42.660 I hear people say,
00:38:44.100 I don't know,
00:38:45.080 I think Jesus might be coming.
00:38:47.100 And I know everybody's
00:38:48.100 been saying that forever,
00:38:49.080 but it's kind of looking like,
00:38:52.300 you know,
00:38:53.520 Jesus might be coming.
00:38:55.720 You know,
00:38:56.540 I'm shocked by this too
00:38:57.740 and I'm shocked by,
00:38:58.800 I'm hearing it,
00:38:59.960 I'm hearing people
00:39:00.600 who don't have any faith
00:39:01.840 speaking in the language of faith,
00:39:03.860 speaking about demons,
00:39:04.920 speaking about how things
00:39:05.700 are demonic and all this.
00:39:07.740 And,
00:39:07.900 and,
00:39:08.260 you know,
00:39:08.720 I have to say
00:39:10.080 that I've been looking
00:39:10.780 at this for a long time.
00:39:12.800 I mean,
00:39:13.360 I,
00:39:14.200 you're always a lot
00:39:15.780 more pessimistic
00:39:16.700 than I am.
00:39:17.720 I'm more pessimistic
00:39:19.940 than anyone,
00:39:21.300 Andrew.
00:39:24.240 But,
00:39:24.800 but I,
00:39:25.240 I have to say
00:39:25.940 that almost a year ago,
00:39:27.440 I,
00:39:27.800 I turned to my wife
00:39:28.800 and we were talking
00:39:29.460 about gender affirming care,
00:39:31.480 which means butchering
00:39:32.200 the bodies of little children
00:39:33.360 to the make-believe
00:39:34.720 opposite sex costumes.
00:39:37.060 And I said,
00:39:37.860 you know,
00:39:38.700 pretty soon
00:39:39.760 they're going to start
00:39:40.320 killing Jews
00:39:41.060 because that's when
00:39:42.460 evil rises.
00:39:43.220 That's always the devil's flagpole.
00:39:45.040 That's always what you see.
00:39:46.060 You know,
00:39:46.680 it's not,
00:39:47.080 it's not that,
00:39:47.660 it's not that anti-Semitism
00:39:48.800 is the worst thing.
00:39:50.180 It's that it occurs
00:39:51.100 where evil is.
00:39:52.220 That's where it rises up.
00:39:53.960 And so,
00:39:54.420 these things are all connected.
00:39:55.740 There's no question about it.
00:39:57.060 There's no question
00:39:57.840 that this kind of
00:39:59.000 materialist attitude
00:40:00.320 that thinks that
00:40:01.240 there's no such thing
00:40:02.460 as a woman,
00:40:03.140 that thinks your body
00:40:03.920 doesn't matter,
00:40:04.760 that thinks that
00:40:05.320 your body is no reference
00:40:06.380 to something higher
00:40:07.180 than itself.
00:40:08.060 All of these ideas
00:40:09.380 that come out of this
00:40:10.240 and are central
00:40:10.900 to the leftist vision,
00:40:12.380 which is what all this is about,
00:40:14.280 they're all connected.
00:40:15.060 And it always ends
00:40:16.780 with the killing of Jews
00:40:18.060 because Jews
00:40:18.800 are the theater
00:40:20.040 in which God plays out
00:40:21.120 his relationship with man.
00:40:22.680 You know,
00:40:22.880 the Jewish people
00:40:23.660 are where God
00:40:24.860 kind of tells us
00:40:26.040 what's going on
00:40:26.880 in our lives.
00:40:28.860 And so,
00:40:29.400 I don't even think,
00:40:30.940 it's funny,
00:40:31.520 I don't even think
00:40:32.100 you have to believe in God
00:40:33.060 to know this is true.
00:40:34.000 You just have to accept
00:40:34.820 the fact that God
00:40:35.480 is a permanent part
00:40:36.760 of human psychology
00:40:37.800 to understand
00:40:39.500 what I'm talking about.
00:40:40.700 And look,
00:40:42.260 the Bible tells us
00:40:43.980 we do not know
00:40:44.740 when the end of Jesus
00:40:45.420 is coming,
00:40:45.980 and I just take that
00:40:46.800 absolutely on faith
00:40:48.320 for the absolute truth.
00:40:50.040 But we know when hints
00:40:51.200 of it are in the air,
00:40:52.940 and we know when
00:40:53.640 the path that man
00:40:56.140 is treading on
00:40:57.380 is that path,
00:40:58.740 and I think that
00:40:59.240 this is that moment.
00:41:00.020 It's a really dark moment.
00:41:02.040 And, you know,
00:41:03.020 I've always told you
00:41:04.880 that pessimists
00:41:05.600 are always right in the end,
00:41:07.320 but it takes it a lot of time.
00:41:09.140 Yeah, it's just how long
00:41:11.940 the horizon is.
00:41:13.520 Jesus is coming.
00:41:14.920 It could be 5,000 years from now,
00:41:17.240 but he is coming.
00:41:19.280 He's going to have
00:41:19.760 some good times.
00:41:20.580 Yeah, and it's really strange,
00:41:21.980 though, that I feel like
00:41:23.860 that actually makes me
00:41:25.800 more optimistic.
00:41:27.300 Because it's kind of,
00:41:29.260 at times,
00:41:29.860 I get very, very,
00:41:31.100 you know, dark at times,
00:41:32.540 and I'm like,
00:41:32.980 that's the only way.
00:41:33.860 I mean,
00:41:34.780 I don't know
00:41:36.060 how this is going
00:41:37.760 to right itself.
00:41:39.020 It always does,
00:41:40.600 but I can't see that path.
00:41:42.420 Can you?
00:41:43.660 No, I'm having the same problem,
00:41:45.400 and you really do.
00:41:47.140 I mean, it sounds like
00:41:48.060 the worst kind of cliche,
00:41:49.740 but you have to have
00:41:50.340 some trust in God
00:41:52.080 and that he has a plan,
00:41:53.540 because when you try
00:41:55.040 to game out
00:41:55.720 the specific place
00:41:57.340 where you're right
00:41:57.920 at this moment,
00:41:59.300 it looks like,
00:42:00.280 you know,
00:42:00.960 fire and blood.
00:42:02.440 It looks like war is coming.
00:42:03.840 It looks like,
00:42:04.460 you know,
00:42:05.360 the destruction
00:42:05.980 of an idea,
00:42:07.620 which is clearly
00:42:08.260 a destructive idea.
00:42:09.760 Our elites,
00:42:10.540 there's one thing
00:42:11.720 that the COVID experience
00:42:13.560 taught us,
00:42:13.980 is our elites are idiots,
00:42:15.000 you know,
00:42:15.240 they're not really
00:42:15.860 doing a very good job,
00:42:17.280 and the people
00:42:17.840 who have the capacity
00:42:18.820 to lead don't want to lead,
00:42:20.160 because who would want to
00:42:21.180 under these situations?
00:42:22.980 And it's,
00:42:23.700 yeah,
00:42:23.980 it's very difficult
00:42:24.920 to think,
00:42:25.860 well,
00:42:25.960 if this happens
00:42:26.560 and that happens
00:42:27.220 and that happens,
00:42:27.680 everything will be okay,
00:42:28.680 because it's hard
00:42:29.360 to see that path.
00:42:31.200 However,
00:42:31.880 however,
00:42:32.220 I have lived long enough
00:42:33.320 to see it happen before.
00:42:34.340 This is very much
00:42:35.340 like the 1970s.
00:42:36.680 It's darker,
00:42:37.320 I got to admit,
00:42:38.460 but in,
00:42:39.240 you know,
00:42:39.460 in the 1970s,
00:42:40.540 the economy was bad,
00:42:41.940 the culture was bad,
00:42:42.980 the things people
00:42:43.520 were saying were bad,
00:42:44.180 the crime was miserable,
00:42:45.500 and yet,
00:42:47.100 you know,
00:42:47.400 Reagan and Giuliani
00:42:49.280 in New York
00:42:50.020 turned things around
00:42:51.240 simply by turning them around.
00:42:53.240 You know,
00:42:53.480 it was amazing
00:42:54.220 how fast
00:42:55.180 things changed
00:42:56.420 and got better,
00:42:57.000 and they got better
00:42:57.480 for a quarter of a century
00:42:58.620 before we started
00:42:59.400 going down this path again.
00:43:00.600 So,
00:43:01.920 things do happen
00:43:02.840 and they're surprising
00:43:03.800 and,
00:43:04.560 you know,
00:43:04.860 you can always be surprised
00:43:05.940 by the joyful things
00:43:07.400 just like you're surprised
00:43:08.260 by the disasters.
00:43:09.560 So,
00:43:09.880 I'm not trusting
00:43:10.480 in my own sense
00:43:12.120 of what's going to happen.
00:43:13.920 I'm waiting to see,
00:43:14.860 but,
00:43:15.120 you know,
00:43:15.720 I have to,
00:43:16.240 you know,
00:43:16.600 usually I'm the one
00:43:17.360 who's the mask of comedy
00:43:19.080 and you're the one
00:43:19.580 who's the mask of tragedy,
00:43:20.900 but I got to agree
00:43:21.460 with you now
00:43:21.960 that this is a dark moment.
00:43:23.160 Yeah.
00:43:24.860 You know,
00:43:25.500 you look at,
00:43:26.300 because you said
00:43:26.960 our leaders are,
00:43:28.820 you know,
00:43:29.940 morons,
00:43:31.020 but the war in Ukraine,
00:43:33.380 the gas prices,
00:43:34.560 the war in Israel,
00:43:36.680 pretty much everything
00:43:39.100 that is going on,
00:43:40.880 that's not a mistake.
00:43:42.460 It can't be a mistake.
00:43:43.840 Can all of these
00:43:44.580 be a mistake
00:43:45.340 that this administration
00:43:47.400 gets in
00:43:48.080 and,
00:43:48.840 I mean,
00:43:49.160 everything they're doing
00:43:50.860 seems to me
00:43:52.000 to only fall
00:43:53.800 in one direction
00:43:54.920 and that's
00:43:55.860 the destruction
00:43:56.640 of the country
00:43:57.380 and to have
00:43:58.380 that batting average
00:43:59.660 where it's always
00:44:01.540 a bad ball,
00:44:03.160 I mean,
00:44:05.200 what are the odds?
00:44:07.360 Yeah,
00:44:07.640 I mean,
00:44:07.880 I'm not sure.
00:44:08.960 I mean,
00:44:09.080 sometimes I can picture
00:44:10.060 like Barack Obama
00:44:11.440 and George Soros
00:44:12.340 sitting up in the attic,
00:44:13.440 you know,
00:44:13.640 with a crystal ball
00:44:14.940 manipulating everything,
00:44:17.220 but other times
00:44:18.680 I just think,
00:44:19.300 no,
00:44:19.900 it's like a gigantic blob.
00:44:21.240 They have these ideas,
00:44:22.560 they can't,
00:44:23.040 they're stuck in them,
00:44:23.820 they can't get out of them
00:44:24.760 and they just all
00:44:25.860 do the same things
00:44:26.820 even though they don't
00:44:27.440 particularly agree
00:44:28.740 even with one another.
00:44:30.280 I think that we are
00:44:31.560 at the nadir
00:44:33.660 of the idea
00:44:34.620 of materialism,
00:44:35.580 which actually
00:44:36.160 has been with us
00:44:36.840 for now
00:44:37.260 five,
00:44:37.800 six hundred years.
00:44:38.740 The idea that we are
00:44:39.820 made of stuff,
00:44:40.820 that we are nothing
00:44:41.480 but stuff,
00:44:42.160 that everything can be fixed
00:44:43.120 by fixing the stuff
00:44:44.240 and I think that
00:44:45.800 that idea
00:44:46.400 has been unfolding
00:44:47.240 very slowly.
00:44:48.080 People saw it coming,
00:44:49.100 Nietzsche saw it coming,
00:44:49.980 you know,
00:44:50.520 he said we've killed God,
00:44:51.700 we're going to have
00:44:52.120 to become gods ourselves
00:44:53.320 and make our own morality.
00:44:55.240 Dostoevsky saw it coming,
00:44:56.280 all these writers
00:44:56.960 saw it coming,
00:44:57.720 now it's here.
00:44:58.740 Now we're at the moment
00:44:59.600 when,
00:45:00.700 you know,
00:45:01.100 in the Brothers Karamazov,
00:45:02.420 one of the brothers says
00:45:03.360 when you give up God,
00:45:04.360 when you give up
00:45:05.040 the idea of immortality,
00:45:07.160 not only do you have
00:45:08.120 to get rid of morality,
00:45:09.540 you have to turn morality
00:45:10.540 on its head
00:45:11.260 and evil has to become good
00:45:12.600 and the ego
00:45:13.100 has to become everything
00:45:14.060 and I think that
00:45:15.260 that's where we're at
00:45:16.740 and what you hope
00:45:17.840 is that you hit the ground
00:45:18.920 and you bounce back,
00:45:19.740 you know,
00:45:19.980 you get the cat bounce
00:45:21.140 when you start to say,
00:45:22.180 okay,
00:45:22.540 maybe we'll try another idea.
00:45:25.840 Yeah.
00:45:26.040 It is amazing
00:45:26.860 how long people can hold on
00:45:28.160 to a self-destructive idea.
00:45:30.000 Andrew Klavan,
00:45:31.000 I'd love to have you
00:45:31.800 on a podcast
00:45:32.460 and love to have you
00:45:33.320 a more frequent guest
00:45:34.220 if you would ever
00:45:34.860 make the time for it.
00:45:35.840 I just love you so much.
00:45:37.080 I think you're an amazing man.
00:45:38.760 You are a good man
00:45:40.000 and a great father.
00:45:43.200 So,
00:45:43.660 thank you.
00:45:44.340 Oh,
00:45:44.960 well,
00:45:45.180 back at you,
00:45:45.720 Glenn.
00:45:45.900 I'll come on anytime.
00:45:46.860 Okay.
00:45:47.200 Andrew Klavan,
00:45:47.720 and the name of the book
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00:45:49.460 it's really exceptional.
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