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00:02:32.900 You're listening to The Best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:02:38.040 I'm the Glenn Beck Program.

00:02:39.880 Say hello to Jason Butcher, chief researcher.

00:02:43.200 Hello, Glenn.

00:02:43.760 How are you?

00:02:44.280 Hello.

00:02:44.840 Good.

00:02:45.820 Jason, how are you?

00:02:47.360 I mean, I was fine until I saw this monkey again, and now I'm starting to get kind of

00:02:52.320 worried.

00:02:53.440 It's a little frightening, isn't it, Stu?

00:02:54.580 Stu is here in Chicago.

00:02:56.140 Terrifying.

00:02:56.540 A little terrifying.

00:02:58.440 This time, it's in Dallas, Texas.

00:03:00.860 Yeah.

00:03:01.060 Oh, gosh.

00:03:01.560 Yeah.

00:03:02.000 It's spreading.

00:03:04.440 Let me just give you the story.

00:03:06.980 Plano, Texas shoppers at a Spirit Halloween store in Texas were shocked to see a live monkey

00:03:14.820 wearing a diaper swinging from the rafters.

00:03:19.120 It happened Monday night at the Spirit Halloween store at 15th Street in Plano.

00:03:23.400 Plano police officers confirmed its officers were dispatched for a call concerning a pet

00:03:28.660 monkey that had gotten away.

00:03:31.080 The officer...

00:03:32.400 There have been seven monkeys on the loose this week in America.

00:03:37.700 Well, actually, it's not even...

00:03:38.680 I mean, well, it's 21 in that initial batch.

00:03:41.400 Was it?

00:03:42.080 Now they're saying it was 21, which was not the number we got initially.

00:03:44.880 No, it was like seven.

00:03:46.100 And then they said, you know, many of them were captured.

00:03:49.580 A few got...

00:03:49.960 Now, there were six that got away.

00:03:52.180 No, they killed them.

00:03:52.880 There were three.

00:03:53.620 What?

00:03:54.260 I believe there's now three that got away in Mississippi.

00:03:57.300 I thought there was one.

00:03:58.120 Yesterday, they made a big deal.

00:03:59.180 That's when we were told it was one.

00:03:59.980 And then...

00:04:00.380 Oh, my gosh, the cover-up just...

00:04:01.480 The monkey cover-up just doesn't end.

00:04:05.080 Anyway, let me get back to Plano because this one is very...

00:04:08.000 Could this be the same monkey?

00:04:09.720 Like, one of the three just made it up to Plano?

00:04:11.600 That's a good theory.

00:04:12.520 Well, he had to stop and get a diaper.

00:04:14.480 He had to stop and get a diaper if he did.

00:04:16.860 A scene was captured on video.

00:04:19.000 It happened while the person with the video was shopping for Halloween costumes.

00:04:24.560 Store employee said the monkey had gotten spooked by one of the store's animatronic decorations.

00:04:31.340 Well, of course monkeys are good.

00:04:32.740 Monkeys are people, too.

00:04:34.080 Of course they're going to get spooked.

00:04:36.160 You know, you bring your kid in, you know, and they're wearing a diaper,

00:04:39.060 and you stick him up next to the, you know, audio-animatronic...

00:04:42.760 You know, at a Halloween store, of course, I'm going to jump, too.

00:04:47.120 Poor monkey. 0.62

00:04:49.020 Ultimately, the monkey's owner was able to entice it with a cookie to regain control.

00:04:54.860 So it looks like we're no longer in DEFCON 1 on monkey patrol.

00:05:00.300 The cookie did entice the monkey to come back to the owner.

00:05:06.300 The police didn't have to shoot it, which was very, very good.

00:05:10.200 Neither the monkey nor anyone else was hurt.

00:05:14.280 But that's what they'd have you believe.

00:05:18.040 I was curious about the legality of this, Glenn.

00:05:20.720 Because is it seriously legal to own a monkey?

00:05:25.220 Yes.

00:05:25.360 You can just buy one and just have it hanging out in your house.

00:05:28.780 Yes.

00:05:29.180 And apparently, well, okay, so apparently Texas is a little bit of a free-for-all.

00:05:33.360 So they leave it up to the cities.

00:05:34.960 No, no, no.

00:05:35.300 Texas has the, is the state with the most private zoos in the world.

00:05:44.440 We have more private zoos.

00:05:47.080 Not like taking, you know, tickets.

00:05:49.880 People that just have zoos at their house.

00:05:54.560 Texas has more private zoos than any other place on Earth.

00:05:58.280 Yeah.

00:05:58.420 Is there competition on this?

00:05:59.920 Is there a countdown I can look up somewhere?

00:06:01.620 I don't think so.

00:06:02.580 I don't think, I think it's like, who has more?

00:06:05.280 It's Texas.

00:06:06.020 It's just Texas.

00:06:06.500 Who's number two?

00:06:07.860 Nobody.

00:06:08.340 It's just Texas.

00:06:09.960 Where was, where was Tiger King?

00:06:12.420 Well, that was Oklahoma, right?

00:06:13.620 Yeah, it was Oklahoma.

00:06:14.520 Yeah.

00:06:14.600 So maybe per capita Oklahoma would be in that competition.

00:06:17.980 But I don't think there's much more outside of that world.

00:06:20.060 And it's all just because people were like, you know, I want some of those elephants.

00:06:23.460 Why can't I have an elephant?

00:06:24.420 Why can't I have an elephant?

00:06:25.280 That's a great question.

00:06:26.320 It's a great Texas question.

00:06:27.480 I want an elephant.

00:06:28.240 How do, why can't I have an elephant?

00:06:29.540 Ross Perot's son, because when I moved to Texas, we live right around Ross Perot and

00:06:35.240 he had a big ranch out by where we live.

00:06:37.420 And he had buffalo.

00:06:39.100 That was the greatest thing ever.

00:06:40.860 You'd see the buffalo running on the side of the highway.

00:06:43.040 I mean, behind a fence, but they were running on the side of the highway and it was just

00:06:46.760 so beautiful and so Texan.

00:06:49.500 And then you'd come around the corner and there, there'd be like a camel.

00:06:55.200 You're like, what the, why all this buffalo and then a camel?

00:06:59.060 Why a camel?

00:07:00.340 Ross told me that he bought it for his father, Ross Perot Sr.

00:07:06.060 He bought it for his father for Christmas.

00:07:09.520 And he said to his dad, what do you get the man who has literally everything?

00:07:15.480 Dad, you don't have a camel.

00:07:17.980 That's a good point.

00:07:19.200 I didn't have a camel.

00:07:20.500 Now he has a camel.

00:07:21.580 Now he has a camel.

00:07:22.600 He went out with a camel.

00:07:23.440 Went out with a camel, yes. 0.98

00:07:24.320 I did a little bit of research on this, Glenn.

00:07:26.480 And so if you're in Plano or most cities in Texas, you can have small monkeys, pretty

00:07:31.180 much any small monkey, and there's nothing that you really have to do, but it goes even

00:07:35.480 crazier.

00:07:36.260 So you can actually, if you wanted to, have a gorilla, I guess, sitting in a lazy boy,

00:07:42.600 hanging out at your house if you wanted to, but you have to be committed.

00:07:47.540 I mean, you, I mean, committed.

00:07:49.000 Wait a minute.

00:07:49.340 What do you mean? 0.99

00:07:49.840 Like, like you're insane. 0.99

00:07:51.360 You shouldn't have a gorilla in your lazy boy. 0.99

00:07:53.620 Okay.

00:07:54.140 So yeah, that's a very important part of it.

00:07:56.140 I think, which should be analyzed, but you need to have a register, a special registration,

00:08:01.360 a hundred thousand dollar liability insurance policy, a secure enclosure, and you have to

00:08:07.200 have random annual inspections to make sure that your gorilla is properly, I guess, taken

00:08:12.700 care of while he's sitting in this lazy boy chilling in your living room.

00:08:16.020 Can you believe that the state actually had to be put through that exercise?

00:08:21.340 Okay.

00:08:21.560 If somebody wants a gorilla, what do we do?

00:08:24.760 What's the line?

00:08:25.440 What's the primate line?

00:08:26.760 What's the line here?

00:08:28.340 And that there's somebody who wants a gorilla.

00:08:30.000 Do you remember the woman who had the chimpanzee up in, or the guy who had the chimpanzee?

00:08:35.360 Um, and when they get older, they get really mean, really, really mean.

00:08:40.720 So at a certain age, I don't remember what it is, but at a certain age, you, you really

00:08:44.200 need to turn them over to somebody else who just like lets them go run in the forest or

00:08:49.520 whatever.

00:08:50.400 So when they get really mean, we let them run free in the forest?

00:08:53.140 I don't know what they're doing.

00:08:54.380 It sounds like a terrible policy.

00:08:55.620 Metaphorically, the forest, they kill them.

00:08:58.220 I think I don't know what they do, but you, at a certain age, you got to keep them in a

00:09:02.060 cage, um, because they get really mean teenagers.

00:09:05.740 Uh, and, uh, there was this, this woman who was living next door to somebody who had a monkey. 1.00

00:09:11.360 The monkey got out.

00:09:12.340 She was getting into her car.

00:09:13.760 The monkey came running across the street to her and literally clawed her face off. 0.99

00:09:20.800 Do you remember that?

00:09:21.440 Oh, yeah.

00:09:21.920 And she survived.

00:09:24.180 And, uh, I think, did we do an interview with her at some point?

00:09:27.460 At some point.

00:09:27.920 I don't know.

00:09:28.120 You've totally ruined the buzz of the story, though.

00:09:29.980 Like, we had a good vibe going, talking about monkeys.

00:09:32.420 It was fun.

00:09:33.840 And then all of a sudden.

00:09:34.960 Faces are getting clawed off.

00:09:36.600 Well.

00:09:38.180 Anyway.

00:09:38.760 Okay.

00:09:39.140 So let's talk with the monkey talk.

00:09:40.920 Uh, let's talk a little bit about, uh, how Kamala Harris was in shock on election night. 0.98

00:09:47.340 Cut to.

00:09:48.620 In a state of shock.

00:09:49.780 Really?

00:09:50.260 Mm-hmm.

00:09:50.600 Did you think the day before that you were going to win?

00:09:54.360 Mm-hmm.

00:09:54.740 I did.

00:09:55.420 Yeah.

00:09:56.540 And so when did the, the proverbial penny drop?

00:09:59.420 When I got a call from my campaign manager that it looks like we need 200,000 more votes

00:10:07.540 that we can't find.

00:10:09.220 We can't find.

00:10:09.960 Just the 200,000.

00:10:10.500 Meaning it's just the map.

00:10:11.920 The numbers.

00:10:14.260 And the thing I kept saying over and over again.

00:10:18.120 I was in a state of shock.

00:10:19.200 I was, I was.

00:10:21.600 Stop.

00:10:21.860 Stop.

00:10:22.440 Freeze this frame.

00:10:23.180 Freeze this frame for me, please.

00:10:25.120 Look how she's talking behind her hands. 1.00

00:10:27.360 She is, she is hiding behind her hands.

00:10:32.540 He's talking like this.

00:10:33.760 He's got her hands up over part of her nose and she's covering half of her face. 0.99

00:10:39.000 I mean, that is bizarre body language.

00:10:42.700 Anyway, go ahead.

00:10:44.020 So inarticulate, but maybe very articulate.

00:10:48.440 What I kept saying over and over again is, my God, my God, my God.

00:10:52.220 Really?

00:10:52.460 Over and over again.

00:10:53.760 I couldn't stop.

00:10:55.360 I haven't felt that emotion.

00:11:00.540 Anything similar to the emotion I felt that day and for quite some time.

00:11:03.580 Other than the grief I felt when my mother died.

00:11:10.540 Oh my gosh.

00:11:13.120 Oh my gosh.

00:11:14.440 These people really think they're important.

00:11:16.800 They really do.

00:11:17.760 Get some perspective.

00:11:19.020 Hey, I didn't get a job.

00:11:20.580 Basically, my mom croaking.

00:11:22.620 Jeez. 1.00

00:11:23.260 Shut up. 1.00

00:11:24.780 You say that with such compassion. 1.00

00:11:27.080 It's real disdain, isn't it?

00:11:28.640 Yeah, it is.

00:11:29.040 Can you sense it?

00:11:29.700 I can a little bit.

00:11:31.840 Just hints of it here and there.

00:11:34.120 She is.

00:11:35.140 I mean, first of all, think of the arrogance that it takes to be in that battle and then

00:11:42.180 to be shocked to the point to where you are almost catatonic, just going, oh my God,

00:11:49.140 oh my God, oh my God, for the longest time. 0.91

00:11:51.900 Think about how arrogant you have to be. 0.61

00:11:55.340 You know, it's funny. 0.81

00:11:55.920 Her opponent took a bullet during the campaign.

00:11:58.780 Did she have any sort of feeling that day?

00:12:01.300 Was there any feeling about losing her country the day that her donors were firing at her

00:12:06.220 opponent?

00:12:06.800 Hey, can I ask, Jason, can I ask you, Stu is over the age where monkeys get mean.

00:12:15.960 Should I put Stu in a cage?

00:12:17.340 I'm noticing he might just claw somebody's face off here at any time.

00:12:22.460 I think we might have to get that.

00:12:23.200 There's no one in the room with me.

00:12:24.160 I know.

00:12:24.880 I know.

00:12:25.360 I know.

00:12:25.540 Good luck on how that works out.

00:12:26.560 I know.

00:12:26.880 It's not good.

00:12:28.040 It's not good.

00:12:28.540 We might have to get that $100,000 insurance policy just in case.

00:12:31.800 I'm not sure.

00:12:32.300 You're working with Stu?

00:12:33.520 Yeah.

00:12:34.240 You need that insurance policy.

00:12:35.400 Hey, Glenn, can we go back to finding 200,000 votes?

00:12:40.480 I mean, I feel like we kind of blew past that really quick, but just a direct quote really

00:12:44.360 quick and just tell me if you remember where this came from.

00:12:46.960 Quote, all I want to do is this.

00:12:50.340 I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is more than we have because we won the state.

00:12:56.760 Right.

00:12:56.860 That was from the Georgia call that was part of the entire impeachment thing.

00:13:03.380 Let's impeachment for saying find votes.

00:13:06.740 Now, is that okay now?

00:13:08.780 Play that again.

00:13:09.780 That's such a great point.

00:13:11.900 Play that again.

00:13:13.040 I was in a state of shock.

00:13:14.460 Really?

00:13:14.920 Did you think the day before that you were going to win the election?

00:13:20.120 Yeah.

00:13:20.460 Yeah, completely.

00:13:21.280 And so when did the proverbial penny drop?

00:13:23.680 When I got a call from my campaign manager that it looks like we need 200,000 more votes

00:13:32.200 that we can't find.

00:13:33.720 That is so crazy.

00:13:36.920 It's so crazy.

00:13:38.560 No, I mean, it's-

00:13:39.940 Especially because they made that phrase into such a big deal.

00:13:42.780 Yes, that's the only reason it's crazy.

00:13:44.660 I mean, obviously you understand what she's saying here.

00:13:46.940 She's not saying they're going to manufacture-

00:13:48.940 Exactly the way they should have understood with Donald Trump.

00:13:53.680 I generally agree with that.

00:13:55.520 I mean, I think their argument there would be that, you know, that call was made to an

00:14:00.000 election official in a state.

00:14:02.140 This is a, you know, she's saying it to her campaign people, where are we going to find

00:14:05.180 these votes?

00:14:06.280 He was making a call to the people running the elections in Georgia.

00:14:09.740 I mean, that's what they would say the difference is.

00:14:12.280 Yeah, that's what they would say the difference is.

00:14:13.520 Again, like, bigger than that, and what makes it comical, I guess, is just that they made

00:14:19.040 that phrase into such a big deal.

00:14:21.240 It's the same thing they did with Sarah Palin back in the day, where they said, target the

00:14:24.640 district.

00:14:25.140 And then they went on, every election since, they said something similar, or maybe exactly,

00:14:30.520 we're targeting these districts.

00:14:31.720 And it was as if we weren't supposed to remember.

00:14:36.300 Like, all these things happen, and we're just supposed to forget them the next day.

00:14:39.380 Do you think maybe the entire left has the beginnings of Alzheimer's, but it's only affecting

00:14:47.140 their short-term memory?

00:14:48.960 Like, they can say something one day, and the next day, it's like they never said that.

00:14:52.500 You know, it's interesting.

00:14:54.960 It's on the back of something that I saw the other day.

00:14:58.320 I think it was on Twitter.

00:14:59.280 I can't remember who tweeted it, so I apologize.

00:15:01.120 But it was a great point, and I think it really boils down where we are a lot.

00:15:07.420 And the way it was phrased was, so much of left-wing discourse is pretending they don't

00:15:15.020 understand what's happening.

00:15:16.280 Yes, yes.

00:15:16.580 Right?

00:15:17.080 It's like, oh, you know, like, oh, you know, they just act as if.

00:15:23.060 They don't understand what you said.

00:15:25.440 Targeting a district, that means that they're trying to kill the person. 0.74

00:15:29.180 Yes.

00:15:29.480 That's what that means.

00:15:30.640 Well, you know that's not what that means, right?

00:15:32.540 That's what that means.

00:15:33.720 They just deny.

00:15:35.260 It's like, normally you fake want that you know more, right?

00:15:39.600 Like, someone asks, hey, do you know about mortgage rates?

00:15:41.880 Well, yeah, sure.

00:15:42.940 I mean, yeah, you know, I know where they are.

00:15:44.600 And you're trying to act as if you have more knowledge about a situation.

00:15:48.960 They're constantly acting as if they have less knowledge.

00:15:51.340 They don't understand what these terms are.

00:15:53.500 They're just an unfrozen caveman lawyer.

00:15:55.960 They don't understand what any of these things are in this crazy new modern world.

00:16:00.060 What?

00:16:00.280 People use the word target to talk about districts?

00:16:02.460 I don't even understand it.

00:16:03.980 And then we get a week of conversation about their intentional misunderstanding.

00:16:10.700 I've got one for you.

00:16:12.060 I think it's cut 20.

00:16:13.240 Let me play this and see if this isn't exactly what you're talking about, Stu.

00:16:17.460 Listen to this from Kamala yesterday.

00:16:19.060 Are you kidding me?

00:16:20.800 This guy wants to create a ballroom for his rich friends while completely turning a blind

00:16:27.220 eye to the fact that that babies are going to starve when the SNAP benefits end in just

00:16:32.300 hours from now.

00:16:34.160 Come on.

00:16:35.120 So what?

00:16:35.540 I'm not going to be distracted by, oh, does the guy have a big hammer?

00:16:41.040 What about those babies?

00:16:42.600 I can't even make sense of her.

00:16:49.080 I don't even understand.

00:16:50.520 So they're pretending they don't understand the ballroom thing.

00:16:54.320 This is just for his rich friends.

00:16:56.040 Or how SNAP benefits work.

00:16:56.960 Yeah.

00:16:57.080 Or how SNAP benefits work.

00:16:58.820 You know?

00:16:59.180 And they're like, wait, wait, that's what he meant.

00:17:02.340 That's what he wants. 0.98

00:17:03.460 Babies just to starve to death starting tomorrow. 0.52

00:17:06.160 While he only cares about this opulent, golden, crusted, you know, rich friend zone that he's

00:17:12.280 building.

00:17:12.740 Which is hilarious, right?

00:17:13.960 Like the date it's supposed to be done is basically the end of his presidency, right?

00:17:18.340 Like he's not really, he is really not going to get much at all out of this room, right?

00:17:22.620 It's going to be future presidents.

00:17:24.160 And you know what's crazy is they're actually talking, they were trying to pass a bill in

00:17:28.160 Congress to have it torn down the minute he leaves office.

00:17:32.860 Oh, yeah. 1.00

00:17:33.300 Stupid Eric Swalwell said that too. 1.00

00:17:34.540 What a stupid, stupid, moronic idea. 1.00

00:17:38.760 I'm going to knock down a $300 million building out of spite. 1.00

00:17:43.600 They do it.

00:17:44.620 They would do it.

00:17:46.140 They would do it.

00:17:46.920 They would act as if it was some pure gesture, right?

00:17:51.260 Like it's, this is how you're going to prove that you're really a liberal.

00:17:54.760 You're really, uh, you're really one of those, uh, people on the left.

00:17:57.860 I mean, it hit Swalwell's construction of this was if you don't, if you don't say you're

00:18:02.940 going to knock down the ballroom, you shouldn't be running for president in 2028.

00:18:06.680 I'm so tired of the purity tests.

00:18:08.800 I'm so tired of the purity tests.

00:18:11.220 Here's an idea.

00:18:12.200 Just be who you are and let people decide.

00:18:14.540 You know what I mean?

00:18:15.360 Oh, I just, just, just.

00:18:17.400 It goes through this entire conversation today.

00:18:19.300 You know what?

00:18:19.980 I got, I get that you think we should be talking about something.

00:18:23.980 I get it.

00:18:24.560 Whatever the thing is that you think is the most important thing in the world.

00:18:28.620 You think all other people should not only share your view about it, but also be talking

00:18:33.340 about it constantly.

00:18:34.360 I got news for you.

00:18:35.420 I have a life too, and I'm going to live it.

00:18:38.520 And everyone should make their own decisions.

00:18:41.500 You know what I'm focused on tonight?

00:18:43.020 The Toronto Blue Jays play game six of the world series.

00:18:45.620 It's so funny.

00:18:46.940 I'm hyper, I can't even.

00:18:48.220 It kills him not to be talking about that the whole time.

00:18:50.620 That's all I want to talk about tonight is that.

00:18:51.880 I know.

00:18:52.100 And yet I have to, every time you talk to somebody else, they're like, oh, well, you've

00:18:55.440 got to talk about this.

00:18:56.240 You need to vote this way.

00:18:57.220 You need to do this.

00:18:58.160 You need to support this policy.

00:18:59.700 You need to, you know, excommunicate this individual.

00:19:03.640 Whatever your thing is today, just note that, you know, maybe your life and the thoughts

00:19:10.220 going on in your head aren't supposed to be applied to everyone else in the world.

00:19:14.220 And you know what's crazy is we literally pray every day before this show.

00:19:20.060 I pray at night.

00:19:21.240 I pray all the time when I'm preparing the show, show me what I need to say that is important.

00:19:28.740 Show me what I should be talking about that will be useful.

00:19:31.340 And how many times have you tuned in and went, well, that's not useful.

00:19:34.800 Right.

00:19:35.200 It happens all the time.

00:19:36.080 I get it.

00:19:36.540 We're sorry.

00:19:37.080 They do our best.

00:19:37.480 Yeah, it happens all the time.

00:19:38.820 I mean, you know, we're doing our best.

00:19:41.500 And you are too.

00:19:43.000 Everybody's doing their best.

00:19:44.780 Relax.

00:19:45.840 Go Blue Jays.

00:19:47.560 Well, Stu's not doing his best.

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00:21:02.460 How many?

00:21:04.980 Well, Mommy and Daddy are fighting.

00:21:07.220 And when Mommy and Daddy are fighting, as always, it should happen in private.

00:21:12.420 And it has been happening in private.

00:21:14.700 These conversations have been going on with people who are, you know, people like me and other leaders, if you will.

00:21:24.320 We have been having many, multiple conversations on how's the best way to handle this.

00:21:29.860 Because you don't want Mommy and Daddy fighting in front of the kids. 0.53

00:21:33.220 Because then the kids have to decide, whose side am I on?

00:21:36.340 Am I on Mommy's side or Daddy's side?

00:21:38.340 Mommy and Daddy are fighting.

00:21:40.520 The whole family is going to break up.

00:21:41.900 And then everything is destroyed.

00:21:44.220 But since we're having a fight now on social media, the worst place to have a fight, now that we're having a fight on social media,

00:21:52.560 we, for the kids' sake and for the family's sake, Mommy and Daddy have to figure this out in front of the kids.

00:21:59.340 So they know we love each other and we can still stick together.

00:22:04.700 So let me start here.

00:22:05.880 Because there are so many sides to this argument.

00:22:08.520 But let me get into it.

00:22:09.460 This is all revolving around anti-Semitism, what that even means, Zionism, what that means.

00:22:16.660 Tucker Carlson, is he on our side or not on our side?

00:22:19.420 Oh, God.

00:22:21.260 So let me start here.

00:22:22.700 I really do not like seeing people ripped apart, like Tucker Carlson, ripped apart, for bringing a guy on who says,

00:22:31.380 I love Stalin.

00:22:32.820 Oh, do you?

00:22:33.560 You love Stalin.

00:22:34.360 Okay, let me talk to you for an hour. 0.98

00:22:35.920 I think that's ridiculous. 0.72

00:22:37.920 But that's not my show. 0.82

00:22:39.340 That's his show.

00:22:40.100 He can bring on whoever he wants to bring on.

00:22:42.400 I do not like people trying to cancel people.

00:22:46.900 You know, if you don't like it, don't watch it.

00:22:49.280 That is the solution.

00:22:51.480 I really despise the idea of people mounting campaigns to, quote, drive someone out of the movement.

00:22:59.360 No, no, you don't do that.

00:23:03.880 And the same thing could be said now on the other side with the Heritage Foundation for saying they won't distance themselves from Tucker.

00:23:11.300 So now they their funding all has to stop.

00:23:14.200 And people are starting to say we should cancel our funding to the Heritage Foundation.

00:23:18.100 I mean, I got to tell you, if I'm on the left, there is nothing that I would want more than to pour fuel on this fire.

00:23:27.980 We're destroying ourselves.

00:23:30.880 I also don't like it when people start ripping other, invite them on the show, give you the example.

00:23:36.820 And I love Tucker, but, you know, inviting Ted Cruz on, I thought I felt and I could be wrong.

00:23:45.060 I haven't talked to Tucker about this one, but I felt that that was setting him up.

00:23:49.460 I never invite somebody on the show to then rip them apart.

00:23:52.640 OK, I just I don't do that.

00:23:55.100 I didn't like it when he did that.

00:23:56.980 I wouldn't do it.

00:23:57.740 I wouldn't do it to Tucker.

00:23:58.780 And I just don't like it.

00:23:59.880 I also have a problem with anybody who says who say they despise Christian Zionists and mainly because I don't even know what your definition of a Christian Zionist is.

00:24:13.120 What is that?

00:24:14.780 It's got to stop.

00:24:16.400 We are we are mixing the street.

00:24:18.180 Remember in Ghostbusters, don't cross the streams.

00:24:21.640 We're crossing the streams all the time.

00:24:23.980 We're crossing them from political to personal to religious.

00:24:27.840 Just nobody even knows what the hell we're even talking about anymore.

00:24:31.820 But something dark is happening in our country.

00:24:35.680 So I want to try to take this apart piece by piece.

00:24:40.540 Let's start with the rise of anti-Semitism, because that's not the only dark thing that is rising in our country.

00:24:45.640 That alone should be enough to chill everybody's blood.

00:24:50.900 The other part of it is this loss of a moral compass.

00:24:54.700 And these stories all tied together, debate over Tucker and his guests, the Heritage Foundation, their refusal to cancel him.

00:25:02.780 So now they're the enemy and the condemnation of of the Heritage Foundation.

00:25:07.900 Does anybody notice that we find ourselves in exactly the same place, circling the same idea over and over and over again?

00:25:19.080 Different views, different words, but the same problem, circling the drain.

00:25:23.980 Same problem, same solution.

00:25:27.040 What do we do with speech we find reprehensible?

00:25:30.160 It seems some people think it's really, really easy, you know, it seems to be very easy on the left.

00:25:39.080 If if it's a conservative that says something that you don't like or is politically, you know, advantageous to you to stand up against, you stand up against and then you get them canceled.

00:25:50.740 OK, you do everything you can to cancel them.

00:25:54.060 If it's somebody on your side that you like and they say exactly the same thing, you just make excuses or exceptions.

00:26:01.580 You know, I mean, that's easy on the left to do that.

00:26:05.420 That's simple.

00:26:06.900 But now we find ourselves split between these two camps and the here are the two camps.

00:26:12.100 Those who believe silencing is the cure for evil ideas and those who fear that silencing is a bigger evil in itself.

00:26:21.020 OK.

00:26:22.520 Both sides are missing something here.

00:26:25.080 So I just want to talk about freedom of speech here for a second.

00:26:28.620 There's so many other things that are part of this, but freedom of speech.

00:26:32.340 I think both sides are missing something.

00:26:34.560 They're both staring at the same fire, but from opposite sides of the flame.

00:26:39.640 So let's break it down into two parts.

00:26:43.040 You should be able and I learned this from Stu.

00:26:45.420 You should be able to change the topic or the words of any statement and the outcome you're feeling on it should be exactly the same.

00:26:58.720 OK, because it should be the principles that we're arguing here.

00:27:02.560 Let me give you an example.

00:27:04.620 The vaccine is dangerous and you can't force me to take it.

00:27:08.300 Should you be canceled on that? 1.00

00:27:09.940 Trump is a Nazi. 0.99

00:27:10.880 Should you be canceled on that? 1.00

00:27:12.940 Men cannot have babies. 0.95

00:27:14.700 Should you be canceled?

00:27:16.020 I love Stalin.

00:27:17.420 Should you be canceled?

00:27:19.240 No matter what is said on either side, we can condemn.

00:27:23.380 We can speak out and debate.

00:27:25.240 But the best way to make bad ideas grow is to suppress them.

00:27:31.460 If you're a parent, you might get this.

00:27:33.840 You raise your kids and once they hit teenage years, you'll start to understand this.

00:27:39.440 The more mom and dad are against something, the more mom and dad hate something.

00:27:44.100 Oh, the more likely it is that your kids just turn the knife in you because that's what teenagers do.

00:27:51.600 They'll embrace it.

00:27:52.740 But when your children are trying to provoke you for attention, the last thing you do is give them the win they're looking for.

00:28:01.760 You just don't do that.

00:28:04.020 You remember in Star Wars, yes, young Skywalker.

00:28:09.720 Take it.

00:28:11.780 Strike me down.

00:28:13.540 Why did he say that?

00:28:14.680 Because he knew, the emperor knew, you strike me down.

00:28:17.640 I am more powerful than ever.

00:28:19.820 So stop with cancel culture. 0.98

00:28:23.960 Two.

00:28:24.620 Let me make something else really clear.

00:28:26.600 Anti-Semitism is evil.

00:28:28.680 Now, how do you define that?

00:28:31.000 How do you define Zionism?

00:28:33.680 I don't know.

00:28:34.380 Everybody seems to have their own definition here.

00:28:37.320 Being against Israel's policies, Israel's war, the way Israel or any country handles itself in foreign relations, that's not anti-Semitism.

00:28:49.780 You know, let me take Great Britain.

00:28:53.120 Okay.

00:28:53.640 I disagree with the British government, the way they are silencing people.

00:28:57.180 You know that 4,000 people last year have been arrested for speech crimes?

00:29:02.360 I think Russia arrested less than 200 people last year.

00:29:06.620 4,000 in England.

00:29:09.700 Oh, that's a problem.

00:29:11.540 You want to talk about fascism?

00:29:13.780 But if I'm against this and vehemently against this, and if I say, you know, their politicians are destroying England,

00:29:22.080 that the Islamification of Great Britain is almost complete and the silence, the official silence from the king and from all of the politicians is evil. 0.91

00:29:36.300 Does that make me anti-British?

00:29:41.100 No.

00:29:42.400 No.

00:29:43.420 I'm not anti-British.

00:29:45.160 I have a problem with their policies. 1.00

00:29:47.100 I find their policies really stupid. 1.00

00:29:50.260 Okay. 1.00

00:29:52.020 Anti-Semitism means I have an unreasonable view that all the Jews are in some global plot.

00:29:59.900 So let me bring it about just changing a couple of words, and you'll see it quickly.

00:30:05.360 All the Jews, you know all the Jews?

00:30:07.800 All the Jews, they control the whole world. 1.00

00:30:10.100 You know, they're all in on some evil plot. 0.99

00:30:12.620 Okay.

00:30:13.220 Let me just change one word.

00:30:15.400 Let me just change it from Jew to, I don't know, black, whites, blue-eyed, blonde-haired people. 0.93

00:30:23.820 You know, all blue-eyed people, they're all in a plot. 0.96

00:30:27.800 They're all in on it together, and they control the world.

00:30:31.700 Okay. 1.00

00:30:32.240 That's just stupid. 1.00

00:30:33.740 That's just stupid. 1.00

00:30:36.500 Anti-Semitism is the ancient hatred that is burned through every civilization that ever thought it was enlightened. 1.00

00:30:44.880 Every time.

00:30:45.540 And it starts the same way.

00:30:46.840 And in the last 200 years, it's always started with Marxism.

00:30:51.440 What a surprise.

00:30:52.500 Well, that's, you know, Marx was a Jew. 0.97

00:30:54.380 He hated the Jews. 0.96

00:30:55.940 Oh, my gosh. 0.96

00:30:57.800 It starts the same way. 0.99

00:31:00.260 Whispers, scapegoats, and the lie that one group of people, those blacks, all the whites, all the blue-eyed people, all the Jews, they control the world, you know. 1.00

00:31:15.060 How does that end? 0.99

00:31:16.420 It always ends in blood.

00:31:17.900 Always.

00:31:18.540 And not just Jewish blood.

00:31:19.700 I mean, that's first, but it ends in the blood of any nation that embraces that kind of stuff.

00:31:26.120 Every time, it destroys the nation.

00:31:30.000 Now, clarity is what we need.

00:31:31.980 So, let's talk about clarity.

00:31:34.700 You can disagree with a government, the government of Israel, without being an anti-Semite.

00:31:40.160 You can question, or an anti-Semite.

00:31:42.460 You can question foreign aid.

00:31:44.380 You can question military policy.

00:31:46.560 You can question the leadership without hatred for the Jews.

00:31:50.880 The inability to distinguish between hatred of a people and criticism of a government is part of what is poisoning our national discourse.

00:32:01.060 Okay?

00:32:01.720 There's no problem.

00:32:03.400 Question Israel all you want. 0.84

00:32:06.040 I do.

00:32:06.820 Two, if America stands for anything, it stands for the right to speak freely and to question power, any power, without being condemned a heretic. 0.68

00:32:20.260 That's what we do and do best.

00:32:22.160 That's what we should do.

00:32:23.960 Now, on that, seeing I brought the word heretic up, don't tell me that my support, because I'm a Christian and I believe it, and you don't have to be a Christian, and you don't have to believe what I believe.

00:32:34.460 But don't tell me that my support of the Jewish people to exist in their ancient homeland, which is how I define Zionism, is heresy.

00:32:44.480 How dare you?

00:32:46.960 I mean, we don't even agree, probably, on the definition of Zionism.

00:32:51.500 Maybe we should do that.

00:32:53.040 But stop calling my faith and my understanding of my faith heretical Christianity, and that's a quote.

00:33:00.940 But we could have that conversation.

00:33:02.760 We should have that conversation.

00:33:04.920 Between civilized people, let's have that discussion.

00:33:07.680 What does that mean?

00:33:09.980 Here's what I mean.

00:33:11.880 Me and everybody else, we must stop dealing in absolutes.

00:33:16.840 You're either for us or against us.

00:33:19.140 You know who thinks like that?

00:33:20.280 Again, let me go back to Star Wars.

00:33:22.580 Sith. 0.99

00:33:22.980 That's Sith thinking that first leads to the silencing of voices, and then in extreme cases, the execution of those voices that just won't be silenced.

00:33:34.120 Look, our founders were really, really clear on this.

00:33:38.560 This is why the First Amendment.

00:33:40.100 Our founders understood all of this.

00:33:41.940 They knew that liberty doesn't die with a bang.

00:33:44.800 It dies with a hush.

00:33:47.000 When voices are silenced, even the ugly ones, we begin the dissent.

00:33:52.400 We circle the drain and then go down.

00:33:54.220 Jefferson wrote, the error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it.

00:34:02.880 What the hell is that? 0.97

00:34:03.860 That means as long as there's a free man that is willing and able to say, that's a dumb idea, leave it alone. 0.99

00:34:14.080 Leave it alone. 0.98

00:34:15.740 An error of opinion, your thinking.

00:34:19.140 Let just free people have that debate, and it will solve itself.

00:34:23.420 They also knew that liberty without moral restraint curdles into chaos.

00:34:30.000 Paul wrote, everything is permissible, but not everything is beneficial.

00:34:34.540 Just because you have the right to say something doesn't mean it's morally right to say it.

00:34:40.600 Have some restraint.

00:34:43.600 Well, but that comes with responsibility, which we don't have.

00:34:47.500 That comes with morality, which we're losing day by day.

00:34:50.500 Comes with religion.

00:34:51.580 I mean, that's what, I'm sorry, George Washington said.

00:34:55.520 Religion and morality are the twin pillars of political prosperity.

00:35:00.380 You mean he wanted everybody to be religious?

00:35:04.020 No, he didn't want everybody to be religious.

00:35:06.480 He meant that a republic cannot survive without shared virtue.

00:35:10.560 The moral foundation of our society, the idea that every man is created equal, that rights come from God, not government, that springs directly from, dare I say it, our Judeo-Christian values.

00:35:24.740 You don't have to be religious to understand that or to cherish it.

00:35:30.100 But if that pillar falls, so does the republic.

00:35:33.540 This is the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:35:40.700 Andrew, my man, how are you?

00:35:43.240 I'm good.

00:35:44.080 It's great to talk to you.

00:35:44.940 Thank you for that lovely introduction.

00:35:47.700 I have to tell you that behind your back, I was talking to Steve Deese about you yesterday.

00:35:53.200 And we were saying that you are the only major conservative voice that actually loves fiction.

00:36:01.280 You know, when we come on, when we talk to you, we feel like, oh, at least here's somebody who actually reads and appreciates the art.

00:36:08.360 So we were giving you big appreciation behind your back.

00:36:11.360 Yeah.

00:36:11.620 That's really nice.

00:36:13.040 It's really, I was wondering, I wanted to ask you this off the air because I didn't know if anybody would be interested, but I'm going to ask you now because you kind of brought it up.

00:36:21.340 What are book sales like now?

00:36:24.260 I haven't written a fiction book in years.

00:36:26.380 And I mean, it used to be, you know, you could have millions sold and then, you know, having a 1 million or a 2 million sales book became harder and harder.

00:36:38.820 Now, I would imagine a book that sells a million copies is a wild out of control bestseller.

00:36:46.280 Is that true?

00:36:47.400 Oh, absolutely.

00:36:48.720 It's really, really hard.

00:36:50.140 But it's, it's crazy businesses has, yeah, the reading has gone down and the business has been, is so feminized that, you know, writing books, men hardly read novels at all anymore.

00:37:01.960 I'm one of the last remaining guys.

00:37:04.060 There are others.

00:37:04.540 I'm not alone, but I'm one of the last remaining guys who writes books for men and women.

00:37:09.420 You know, they have love stories in them, but they're action books and they're full of, full of the questions that men are thinking about.

00:37:14.680 And like, it's just really tough to get that out there.

00:37:18.120 And they are, they also, you know, they blacklist white men.

00:37:21.500 And my, my editor, Otto Penzler, who is probably the major figure in the 20th century for mystery publishing.

00:37:29.500 Uh, he's been, he's been canceled at things because they say he publishes too many white men.

00:37:35.140 It's just, it's just nuts out there. 0.94

00:37:38.160 Yeah.

00:37:38.260 I know.

00:37:38.500 I, I, I got out of my relationship with, uh, Simon and Schuster because it, it got so crazy just on, just on nonfiction books.

00:37:46.460 You know, you got to really take this angle.

00:37:48.820 And I'm like, you don't know my audience.

00:37:50.400 What are you talking about?

00:37:51.440 You guys are New York liberals.

00:37:52.720 Don't tell me what to write.

00:37:54.720 Um, you know, that's why they hire you.

00:37:59.420 That's what they're paying you to do.

00:38:00.480 They're paying you to give you your vision.

00:38:02.500 And then they want to make sure that your, your vision is there.

00:38:05.620 I know it doesn't work. 1.00

00:38:07.540 It's so stupid. 1.00

00:38:08.580 So stupid. 1.00

00:38:09.460 Yeah. 1.00

00:38:09.800 Um, so tell me about this book.

00:38:12.380 This is after that, the dark, I'm going to tell you, Glenn, absolutely.

00:38:15.640 Honestly, this is one of the best books I ever wrote.

00:38:17.820 It is a mystery and a love story.

00:38:20.580 It's about this, this guy, Cameron winter, who's been trying to escape his past as a government

00:38:25.160 assassin.

00:38:26.240 Can I pick it up?

00:38:27.300 Can I pick it up with this book, Andrew?

00:38:29.140 Cause I know this is number five.

00:38:30.240 Can I pick it up here or do I have to?

00:38:32.320 Yes.

00:38:33.100 Okay.

00:38:33.300 This is, this book has all, all of the things, all of the themes that have been playing out

00:38:37.160 are in this book.

00:38:38.320 And, uh, he, he meets this girl that he is really falling for and they go out on a first

00:38:43.360 date and she tells him, she, she knows he likes kind of odd murders and she tells him a

00:38:47.920 true story about a murder in a locked room of classic locker room mystery.

00:38:52.120 And he just to impress her, he tries to solve the murder and he opens up this absolute hornet's

00:38:57.660 nest of evil that starts to surround him.

00:38:59.600 So he's, this guy is trying to escape being an assassin, but he finds it. 0.93

00:39:02.620 He's going to have to kill some people to get out of this alive. 0.59

00:39:05.340 And it's, uh, you know, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. 0.93

00:39:07.500 Can I ask, you know, in the locked room, it's an institution, a padded, a padded.

00:39:13.800 However, it does feel a little inspired by Jeffrey Epstein is always on a good crime writer's

00:39:23.940 mind.

00:39:24.360 I will tell you a little bit, a little bit.

00:39:28.800 Is that just a coincidence?

00:39:30.880 No, there are all kinds of, uh, Epsteinian themes in the book.

00:39:34.580 I have to say because of the, uh, there's a lot of, a lot of dark stuff going on behind

00:39:38.400 the scenes.

00:39:38.840 Uh, so, um, you also have, you know, the billionaire that is played also has a, again,

00:39:48.060 I'm sure, because I'm sure it says at the very beginning, any, anything that would make

00:39:53.080 you think this billionaire was like George Soros.

00:39:55.920 That's on you. 1.00

00:39:59.100 You just have an evil mind. 1.00

00:40:00.780 You just have an evil mind. 0.99

00:40:02.400 It's not my fault. 0.91

00:40:04.260 I give you these books and you just turn them into these horrible conspiracies.

00:40:11.580 I know, I know, I know how horrible of me.

00:40:15.240 Just horrible.

00:40:16.780 So, uh, so Andrew, how do we turn this or cause I'm really, I'm really bothered by, you know,

00:40:24.460 I saw a poll.

00:40:25.480 What was it, Stu?

00:40:26.200 It was, uh, the stat was, was it 58, 58% of Americans have a sixth grade level, uh, reading

00:40:36.880 ability.

00:40:38.140 Yeah.

00:40:38.980 And 50% or less.

00:40:42.640 We don't survive with that.

00:40:45.240 No, of course not.

00:40:46.240 And we have no future without it all.

00:40:47.880 And they're shutting down, uh, schools for gifted kids and the school.

00:40:52.520 And I have to tell you the way they treat poor people, black people, people in, in underserved

00:40:58.320 neighborhoods in education is, is a crime. 0.76

00:41:01.680 It's a crime.

00:41:02.380 I mean, my, my daughter taught in one of the worst schools in the country for a couple of 0.91

00:41:06.020 years, and she had to close the door in order to teach kids values because if they caught

00:41:11.120 her teaching kids good values, they would tell her she was doing something terribly wrong.

00:41:15.260 And it was just, uh, just, it's just amazing.

00:41:18.200 It's amazing.

00:41:19.140 The things that they withhold from underprivileged children and the fact that they shut down

00:41:24.520 these schools as they did during, um, COVID and, and the teachers union just ruled the

00:41:30.740 party and ruled the country there for a couple of years.

00:41:33.040 No, no, no, no, no, no.

00:41:34.200 Um, um, Weingarten said that she was for the opening of schools.

00:41:37.640 I don't know if you saw that recently.

00:41:39.420 She was for opening.

00:41:40.600 That's right.

00:41:41.320 I missed that in real time, but I'm glad.

00:41:43.460 Yeah.

00:41:43.580 No, I know.

00:41:44.920 We could see it in the playback.

00:41:46.540 Yeah.

00:41:48.340 And you know, you take away reading.

00:41:51.060 It's one of the great joys of life, reading one of the great joys of life.

00:41:54.340 If anything expands your soul, if that is a possible thing, it's reading.

00:41:58.740 And I think, I think reading fiction, you know, approaching the arts, I think the arts

00:42:03.440 do so much for the human mind and soul.

00:42:05.620 I like, I mean, just, just being able to understand the culture that you're in good and bad, what's

00:42:11.940 happening, it helps you understand human nature.

00:42:14.480 And to take that away from kids and to take it away from people in general, it's just,

00:42:18.580 it's a sin.

00:42:19.380 It's a crime.

00:42:20.340 I remember at lunchtime, my fourth grade teacher read, um, you could stay in for lunch

00:42:26.480 and she would read, uh, little house on the prairie and, uh, she was a great reader and

00:42:34.020 it was just, it just lit my imagination.

00:42:38.700 Uh, and you know, I read, you know, books back then, especially, you know, written, you

00:42:44.740 know, prior to the modern age, they were, they were written to be read out loud, especially

00:42:51.280 people like Edgar Allen Poe.

00:42:53.300 He was, he was men.

00:42:54.740 And I think Mark Twain too, if you had a great reader, a great storyteller in your family

00:42:59.920 that, and you had access to these books, you had television, you had movies, it would

00:43:05.080 come to life when you would read these things.

00:43:07.680 That is a totally lost art.

00:43:10.680 Nobody is, nobody is reading to their children out loud and really taking them for adventures.

00:43:18.200 You know, I, when I was in sixth grade, we had to memorize a poem and I memorized the

00:43:22.540 Raven because I loved Edgar Allen Poe so much.

00:43:25.740 And I have to say, having that poem in my head and having other poems in my head, I have

00:43:30.460 a, I have a bad memory.

00:43:31.560 So I have to really work at memorizing things.

00:43:34.740 It's like, it's like having company.

00:43:36.280 It's like having somebody in, you know, in the dark of night, there's something you

00:43:38.980 can always think, go to, it is like connecting with another soul.

00:43:42.720 And I, I, I have memories too.

00:43:44.780 Like you were talking about teachers who introduced things to you.

00:43:47.540 I remember this teacher who introduced just the first scene from Macbeth with the witches

00:43:52.280 and all this stuff and the witches telling Macbeth that he was going to be king.

00:43:56.320 So he thought, well, maybe I have to murder the king to be king.

00:43:58.680 And I just thought, wow, that is so cool.

00:44:01.560 You know, and I've been, I've been a Shakespeare lover all my life and that was in third grade.

00:44:05.700 And this stuff just sticks with you forever.

00:44:07.620 And it's just a terrible thing to be deprived of.

00:44:10.460 And I think for some people, I think for the, for people who are past childhood, I think

00:44:15.160 the internet gets in the way, you know, I think the phones that drop, draw you into these

00:44:19.760 little bursts of information without drawing into real stories and real life.

00:44:24.360 Yeah.

00:44:24.480 Uh, you know, I, I became friends with Orson Welles daughter, um, and, uh, you know, cause

00:44:32.020 I collect, I have a lot of his, I have his original war of the world script.

00:44:36.040 I have all of his original scripts, you know, with his hand annotated, you know, scripts from

00:44:41.800 everything from Citizen Kane to, you know, all of it.

00:44:44.600 Um, and we were talking one time, his daughter and I, and, uh, she said, you know, I didn't

00:44:50.620 realize how weird I was until my dad died.

00:44:54.180 And she said, he was my best friend and we did everything together.

00:44:59.860 And she said, my dad homeschooled me.

00:45:03.120 Now imagine being homeschooled by Orson Welles.

00:45:05.800 Homeschooled by Orson Welles.

00:45:06.960 Yeah.

00:45:07.420 Orson Welles.

00:45:08.060 I think.

00:45:08.660 Yeah.

00:45:09.420 Right.

00:45:10.080 He was such a stickler on things.

00:45:11.640 But anyway, she said, you want to know how I learned Shakespeare?

00:45:14.840 And I said, sure.

00:45:16.720 And she said, Friday came and my dad said, be ready Monday morning.

00:45:21.380 When we start school, we're going someplace.

00:45:23.460 So be ready by seven, um, and be ready to, you know, bring a, bring a jacket.

00:45:28.740 Um, because Monday we start Shakespeare.

00:45:31.040 And she said, uh, he came into my room and said, come on, let's go on Monday morning.

00:45:36.320 He had packed a picnic basket, brought a blanket.

00:45:39.100 She said, we drove for a long time.

00:45:40.560 They lived in Europe at the time.

00:45:41.820 And she said, we drove a long time.

00:45:43.320 And my dad pulled up to this old castle and he stood, he stood, uh, with the castle as

00:45:50.400 the backdrop and the moat in front.

00:45:53.220 And he laid the blanket down and I sat down and he stood up with the backdrop of the castle.

00:45:58.340 And he said, Macbeth act one.

00:46:02.100 And he acted out.

00:46:03.800 She said, that's how I learned Shakespeare.

00:46:05.340 He acted all of these plays out himself.

00:46:08.820 Can you imagine that?

00:46:10.120 That's amazing.

00:46:10.880 That is amazing.

00:46:11.940 And, you know, he, he made a film, he made a film of a fellow that has been pieced together.

00:46:19.420 That's one of the best Shakespeare films ever made.

00:46:21.360 I mean, he was just brilliant at Shakespeare.

00:46:23.900 Unbelievable.

00:46:24.480 That's an unbelievable story.

00:46:25.900 You know, you know, you want to take that collection.

00:46:27.960 You have such a great collection.

00:46:29.660 You want to do for the 250th birthday of America.

00:46:33.360 You want to just put it on display.

00:46:35.280 Like they didn't the last time, I think it was 200, they did a train that went across

00:46:39.580 the country carrying memorabilia.

00:46:41.580 You're the, you're the only person left.

00:46:43.760 So I think, I think we are, I don't know.

00:46:47.860 I haven't been involved, um, in this.

00:46:49.980 I was involved in the beginning and I don't know what, where the ending is, but we talked

00:46:53.320 about doing something with trucks with the white house.

00:46:56.680 Um, and I, the last I heard we were going to be taking it on buses or trucks around the

00:47:01.500 country, uh, for the 250th.

00:47:04.020 And I don't know if that's, I don't know if that's happening still or not.

00:47:07.400 Um, but we are going to be, we're going to be doing a lot of, a lot of stuff with it.

00:47:11.540 Cause it's, it's, uh, you know, I thought about the train, you know, 1976, you know,

00:47:15.720 isn't it weird?

00:47:16.400 You, you remember this, do you remember the bicentennial logo, you know, the star, the

00:47:20.620 red, white, blue, the logo.

00:47:21.860 No, I don't remember the logo.

00:47:23.080 No.

00:47:23.220 Okay.

00:47:23.400 So it was a red, white, and blue star.

00:47:26.020 And I thought, I remember this being everywhere.

00:47:29.680 I remember it being, you know, 1776, 1976 on our coins, everything here we are at, at

00:47:38.280 two 50 and there's nothing, you're not even talking about anything.

00:47:43.880 There's nothing coming from our government.

00:47:46.160 And it's like pulling teeth.

00:47:48.500 I mean, Trump is doing something, but the government, they're not doing anything.

00:47:54.000 It's crazy.

00:47:54.960 Yeah.

00:47:55.180 It's crazy.

00:47:55.900 And, and, you know, I mean, it has been one of the things that I love about Trump is the

00:48:00.260 fact that he does care, you know, about the culture, about the arts, about fiction and

00:48:04.680 things like that.

00:48:05.480 Speaking over, uh, the Kennedy center, which I think is great.

00:48:08.580 People are protesting it and all that stuff, but it's no, this, these are great things

00:48:12.380 because, because we've lost it to this little group of people who feel like entitled to

00:48:17.840 hound artists, uh, out of the, you know, we're talking about the publishing industry.

00:48:21.800 That's just leftism, leftist hounding artists out of the square because they don't like their

00:48:26.340 vision.

00:48:26.680 They don't like their opinions.

00:48:27.540 And people like me are getting very rare, you know, people who write novels that actually

00:48:32.120 have a vision that, that other people can agree with and is not imposing this leftist

00:48:36.620 nonsense on them.

00:48:37.900 It's just becoming a really rare thing.

00:48:39.860 You know, we were talking, um, a few weeks ago, I think off the air, I don't think we

00:48:43.980 shared this on the air, but, um, back in 2010, I think I did something at the, uh, I rented

00:48:50.440 out the, the, uh, Kennedy center and I was doing a night at the Kennedy center and I said,

00:48:56.880 I wanted the backdrop to be a giant flag.

00:48:59.460 And I asked them if they had one, assuming it's Washington DC, of course they have a backdrop

00:49:04.200 of a giant flag.

00:49:05.640 You know what I mean?

00:49:06.820 Really, honestly.

00:49:07.740 You've never been to the Kennedy center yet.

00:49:09.160 I know.

00:49:10.140 And they said the American flag, when I put the flag on the stage, I was told by the

00:49:15.580 Kennedy center, this is the first time the American flag has ever been on stage at the

00:49:20.720 Kennedy center.

00:49:22.080 That's crazy.

00:49:23.820 That is absolutely crazy.

00:49:26.980 So I'm, I'm thrilled.

00:49:30.060 Yeah, no, it's, it's great.

00:49:31.700 And he's the only, the only president who ever thought that maybe this could be changed.

00:49:36.020 You know, it ever, the only time it ever occurred to anybody that we don't have to live like

00:49:39.920 this.

00:49:40.360 We don't have to live with this little small sliver of the population who hate our country,

00:49:45.320 who hate our values, dictating everything that we see and do.

00:49:48.780 We don't have to do that.

00:49:49.900 And I think that the Republicans have a lot to answer for, for the 50 years in which they

00:49:54.500 just sort of shrugged this off.

00:49:55.820 They shrugged off the news media that, you know, was all on one side.

00:49:59.340 They kind of just kowtowed to it.

00:50:00.840 And I think that that's, you know, it's kind of what's brought us here.

00:50:04.020 I think we're in this really weird moment when the culture has, has flatlined because

00:50:10.720 of these crazy, woke ideas, which basically call evil, good and good evil.

00:50:15.460 And I think it's about to come back and I would really like it if conservatives and people

00:50:19.800 of traditional mind, you know, it sort of get involved and sort of say, yeah, you know,

00:50:23.700 I want to, I want to do this.

00:50:24.860 I want to make sure that our culture doesn't fall like this again, because it's, it's so bad.

00:50:29.080 It's so bad for children, it's bad for young people, it's bad for everybody, it's bad for

00:50:32.220 everybody's brain, you know.

00:50:33.540 And here is how you fix it.

00:50:35.340 Just start reading again.

00:50:36.720 There's a great book, Andrew Klavan.

00:50:38.860 After that, The Dark.

00:50:40.420 It is available now.

00:50:41.720 It's a mystery story.

00:50:43.080 Really, really good.

00:50:44.540 After that, The Dark.

00:50:45.980 Andrew Klavan, as always, my friend, it is good to talk to you.

00:50:48.500 Thank you.

00:50:48.800 Na, na, na, na.

The Glenn Beck Program - October 31, 2025

Best of the Program ｜ Guest： Andrew Klavan ｜ 10⧸31⧸25

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