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Glenn Beck talks about a monkey that got away from a police officer in Dallas, Texas, and the bizarre story of a live monkey in a diaper hanging from the rafters of a Halloween store in Plano, Texas.
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I mean, I was fine until I saw this monkey again, and now I'm starting to get kind of
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Plano, Texas shoppers at a Spirit Halloween store in Texas were shocked to see a live monkey
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It happened Monday night at the Spirit Halloween store at 15th Street in Plano.
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Plano police officers confirmed its officers were dispatched for a call concerning a pet
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There have been seven monkeys on the loose this week in America.
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Now they're saying it was 21, which was not the number we got initially.
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And then they said, you know, many of them were captured.
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I believe there's now three that got away in Mississippi.
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Anyway, let me get back to Plano because this one is very...
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Like, one of the three just made it up to Plano?
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It happened while the person with the video was shopping for Halloween costumes.
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Store employee said the monkey had gotten spooked by one of the store's animatronic decorations.
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You know, you bring your kid in, you know, and they're wearing a diaper,
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and you stick him up next to the, you know, audio-animatronic...
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You know, at a Halloween store, of course, I'm going to jump, too.
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Ultimately, the monkey's owner was able to entice it with a cookie to regain control.
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So it looks like we're no longer in DEFCON 1 on monkey patrol.
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The cookie did entice the monkey to come back to the owner.
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The police didn't have to shoot it, which was very, very good.
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I was curious about the legality of this, Glenn.
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You can just buy one and just have it hanging out in your house.
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And apparently, well, okay, so apparently Texas is a little bit of a free-for-all.
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Texas has the, is the state with the most private zoos in the world.
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Texas has more private zoos than any other place on Earth.
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I don't think, I think it's like, who has more?
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So maybe per capita Oklahoma would be in that competition.
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But I don't think there's much more outside of that world.
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And it's all just because people were like, you know, I want some of those elephants.
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Ross Perot's son, because when I moved to Texas, we live right around Ross Perot and
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You'd see the buffalo running on the side of the highway.
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I mean, behind a fence, but they were running on the side of the highway and it was just
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And then you'd come around the corner and there, there'd be like a camel.
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You're like, what the, why all this buffalo and then a camel?
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Ross told me that he bought it for his father, Ross Perot Sr.
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And he said to his dad, what do you get the man who has literally everything?
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And so if you're in Plano or most cities in Texas, you can have small monkeys, pretty
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much any small monkey, and there's nothing that you really have to do, but it goes even
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So you can actually, if you wanted to, have a gorilla, I guess, sitting in a lazy boy,
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hanging out at your house if you wanted to, but you have to be committed.
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I think, which should be analyzed, but you need to have a register, a special registration,
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a hundred thousand dollar liability insurance policy, a secure enclosure, and you have to
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have random annual inspections to make sure that your gorilla is properly, I guess, taken
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care of while he's sitting in this lazy boy chilling in your living room.
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Can you believe that the state actually had to be put through that exercise?
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Do you remember the woman who had the chimpanzee up in, or the guy who had the chimpanzee?
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Um, and when they get older, they get really mean, really, really mean.
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So at a certain age, I don't remember what it is, but at a certain age, you, you really
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need to turn them over to somebody else who just like lets them go run in the forest or
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So when they get really mean, we let them run free in the forest?
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I think I don't know what they do, but you, at a certain age, you got to keep them in a
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cage, um, because they get really mean teenagers.
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Uh, and, uh, there was this, this woman who was living next door to somebody who had a monkey.
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The monkey came running across the street to her and literally clawed her face off.
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And, uh, I think, did we do an interview with her at some point?
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You've totally ruined the buzz of the story, though.
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Like, we had a good vibe going, talking about monkeys.
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Uh, let's talk a little bit about, uh, how Kamala Harris was in shock on election night.
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Did you think the day before that you were going to win?
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And so when did the, the proverbial penny drop?
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When I got a call from my campaign manager that it looks like we need 200,000 more votes
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And the thing I kept saying over and over again.
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He's got her hands up over part of her nose and she's covering half of her face.
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What I kept saying over and over again is, my God, my God, my God.
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Anything similar to the emotion I felt that day and for quite some time.
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Other than the grief I felt when my mother died.
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I mean, first of all, think of the arrogance that it takes to be in that battle and then
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to be shocked to the point to where you are almost catatonic, just going, oh my God,
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Her opponent took a bullet during the campaign.
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Was there any feeling about losing her country the day that her donors were firing at her
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Hey, can I ask, Jason, can I ask you, Stu is over the age where monkeys get mean.
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I'm noticing he might just claw somebody's face off here at any time.
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We might have to get that $100,000 insurance policy just in case.
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Hey, Glenn, can we go back to finding 200,000 votes?
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I mean, I feel like we kind of blew past that really quick, but just a direct quote really
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quick and just tell me if you remember where this came from.
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I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is more than we have because we won the state.
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That was from the Georgia call that was part of the entire impeachment thing.
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Did you think the day before that you were going to win the election?
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When I got a call from my campaign manager that it looks like we need 200,000 more votes
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Especially because they made that phrase into such a big deal.
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I mean, obviously you understand what she's saying here.
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Exactly the way they should have understood with Donald Trump.
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I mean, I think their argument there would be that, you know, that call was made to an
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This is a, you know, she's saying it to her campaign people, where are we going to find
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He was making a call to the people running the elections in Georgia.
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I mean, that's what they would say the difference is.
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Yeah, that's what they would say the difference is.
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Again, like, bigger than that, and what makes it comical, I guess, is just that they made
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It's the same thing they did with Sarah Palin back in the day, where they said, target the
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And then they went on, every election since, they said something similar, or maybe exactly,
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And it was as if we weren't supposed to remember.
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Like, all these things happen, and we're just supposed to forget them the next day.
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Do you think maybe the entire left has the beginnings of Alzheimer's, but it's only affecting
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Like, they can say something one day, and the next day, it's like they never said that.
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It's on the back of something that I saw the other day.
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I can't remember who tweeted it, so I apologize.
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But it was a great point, and I think it really boils down where we are a lot.
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And the way it was phrased was, so much of left-wing discourse is pretending they don't
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It's like, oh, you know, like, oh, you know, they just act as if.
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Targeting a district, that means that they're trying to kill the person.
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Well, you know that's not what that means, right?
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It's like, normally you fake want that you know more, right?
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Like, someone asks, hey, do you know about mortgage rates?
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And you're trying to act as if you have more knowledge about a situation.
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They're constantly acting as if they have less knowledge.
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They don't understand what any of these things are in this crazy new modern world.
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People use the word target to talk about districts?
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And then we get a week of conversation about their intentional misunderstanding.
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Let me play this and see if this isn't exactly what you're talking about, Stu.
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This guy wants to create a ballroom for his rich friends while completely turning a blind
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eye to the fact that that babies are going to starve when the SNAP benefits end in just
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I'm not going to be distracted by, oh, does the guy have a big hammer?
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So they're pretending they don't understand the ballroom thing.
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And they're like, wait, wait, that's what he meant.
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Babies just to starve to death starting tomorrow.
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While he only cares about this opulent, golden, crusted, you know, rich friend zone that he's
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Like the date it's supposed to be done is basically the end of his presidency, right?
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Like he's not really, he is really not going to get much at all out of this room, right?
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And you know what's crazy is they're actually talking, they were trying to pass a bill in
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Congress to have it torn down the minute he leaves office.
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I'm going to knock down a $300 million building out of spite.
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They would act as if it was some pure gesture, right?
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Like it's, this is how you're going to prove that you're really a liberal.
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You're really, uh, you're really one of those, uh, people on the left.
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I mean, it hit Swalwell's construction of this was if you don't, if you don't say you're
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going to knock down the ballroom, you shouldn't be running for president in 2028.
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It goes through this entire conversation today.
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I got, I get that you think we should be talking about something.
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Whatever the thing is that you think is the most important thing in the world.
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You think all other people should not only share your view about it, but also be talking
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The Toronto Blue Jays play game six of the world series.
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It kills him not to be talking about that the whole time.
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That's all I want to talk about tonight is that.
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And yet I have to, every time you talk to somebody else, they're like, oh, well, you've
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You need to, you know, excommunicate this individual.
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Whatever your thing is today, just note that, you know, maybe your life and the thoughts
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going on in your head aren't supposed to be applied to everyone else in the world.
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And you know what's crazy is we literally pray every day before this show.
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I pray all the time when I'm preparing the show, show me what I need to say that is important.
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Show me what I should be talking about that will be useful.
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And how many times have you tuned in and went, well, that's not useful.
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And when Mommy and Daddy are fighting, as always, it should happen in private.
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These conversations have been going on with people who are, you know, people like me and other leaders, if you will.
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We have been having many, multiple conversations on how's the best way to handle this.
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Because you don't want Mommy and Daddy fighting in front of the kids.
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Because then the kids have to decide, whose side am I on?
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But since we're having a fight now on social media, the worst place to have a fight, now that we're having a fight on social media,
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we, for the kids' sake and for the family's sake, Mommy and Daddy have to figure this out in front of the kids.
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So they know we love each other and we can still stick together.
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Because there are so many sides to this argument.
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This is all revolving around anti-Semitism, what that even means, Zionism, what that means.
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Tucker Carlson, is he on our side or not on our side?
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I really do not like seeing people ripped apart, like Tucker Carlson, ripped apart, for bringing a guy on who says,
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You know, if you don't like it, don't watch it.
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I really despise the idea of people mounting campaigns to, quote, drive someone out of the movement.
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And the same thing could be said now on the other side with the Heritage Foundation for saying they won't distance themselves from Tucker.
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And people are starting to say we should cancel our funding to the Heritage Foundation.
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I mean, I got to tell you, if I'm on the left, there is nothing that I would want more than to pour fuel on this fire.
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I also don't like it when people start ripping other, invite them on the show, give you the example.
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And I love Tucker, but, you know, inviting Ted Cruz on, I thought I felt and I could be wrong.
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I haven't talked to Tucker about this one, but I felt that that was setting him up.
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I never invite somebody on the show to then rip them apart.
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I also have a problem with anybody who says who say they despise Christian Zionists and mainly because I don't even know what your definition of a Christian Zionist is.
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Remember in Ghostbusters, don't cross the streams.
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We're crossing them from political to personal to religious.
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Just nobody even knows what the hell we're even talking about anymore.
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But something dark is happening in our country.
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So I want to try to take this apart piece by piece.
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Let's start with the rise of anti-Semitism, because that's not the only dark thing that is rising in our country.
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That alone should be enough to chill everybody's blood.
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The other part of it is this loss of a moral compass.
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And these stories all tied together, debate over Tucker and his guests, the Heritage Foundation, their refusal to cancel him.
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So now they're the enemy and the condemnation of of the Heritage Foundation.
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Does anybody notice that we find ourselves in exactly the same place, circling the same idea over and over and over again?
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Different views, different words, but the same problem, circling the drain.
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What do we do with speech we find reprehensible?
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It seems some people think it's really, really easy, you know, it seems to be very easy on the left.
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If if it's a conservative that says something that you don't like or is politically, you know, advantageous to you to stand up against, you stand up against and then you get them canceled.
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If it's somebody on your side that you like and they say exactly the same thing, you just make excuses or exceptions.
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You know, I mean, that's easy on the left to do that.
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But now we find ourselves split between these two camps and the here are the two camps.
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Those who believe silencing is the cure for evil ideas and those who fear that silencing is a bigger evil in itself.
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So I just want to talk about freedom of speech here for a second.
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There's so many other things that are part of this, but freedom of speech.
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They're both staring at the same fire, but from opposite sides of the flame.
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You should be able and I learned this from Stu.
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You should be able to change the topic or the words of any statement and the outcome you're feeling on it should be exactly the same.
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OK, because it should be the principles that we're arguing here.
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The vaccine is dangerous and you can't force me to take it.
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No matter what is said on either side, we can condemn.
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But the best way to make bad ideas grow is to suppress them.
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You raise your kids and once they hit teenage years, you'll start to understand this.
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The more mom and dad are against something, the more mom and dad hate something.
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Oh, the more likely it is that your kids just turn the knife in you because that's what teenagers do.
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But when your children are trying to provoke you for attention, the last thing you do is give them the win they're looking for.
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You remember in Star Wars, yes, young Skywalker.
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Because he knew, the emperor knew, you strike me down.
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Everybody seems to have their own definition here.
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Being against Israel's policies, Israel's war, the way Israel or any country handles itself in foreign relations, that's not anti-Semitism.
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I disagree with the British government, the way they are silencing people.
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You know that 4,000 people last year have been arrested for speech crimes?
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I think Russia arrested less than 200 people last year.
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But if I'm against this and vehemently against this, and if I say, you know, their politicians are destroying England,
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that the Islamification of Great Britain is almost complete and the silence, the official silence from the king and from all of the politicians is evil.
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Anti-Semitism means I have an unreasonable view that all the Jews are in some global plot.
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So let me bring it about just changing a couple of words, and you'll see it quickly.
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Let me just change it from Jew to, I don't know, black, whites, blue-eyed, blonde-haired people.
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You know, all blue-eyed people, they're all in a plot.
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They're all in on it together, and they control the world.
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Anti-Semitism is the ancient hatred that is burned through every civilization that ever thought it was enlightened.
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And in the last 200 years, it's always started with Marxism.
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Whispers, scapegoats, and the lie that one group of people, those blacks, all the whites, all the blue-eyed people, all the Jews, they control the world, you know.
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I mean, that's first, but it ends in the blood of any nation that embraces that kind of stuff.
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You can disagree with a government, the government of Israel, without being an anti-Semite.
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You can question the leadership without hatred for the Jews.
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The inability to distinguish between hatred of a people and criticism of a government is part of what is poisoning our national discourse.
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Two, if America stands for anything, it stands for the right to speak freely and to question power, any power, without being condemned a heretic.
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Now, on that, seeing I brought the word heretic up, don't tell me that my support, because I'm a Christian and I believe it, and you don't have to be a Christian, and you don't have to believe what I believe.
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But don't tell me that my support of the Jewish people to exist in their ancient homeland, which is how I define Zionism, is heresy.
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I mean, we don't even agree, probably, on the definition of Zionism.
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But stop calling my faith and my understanding of my faith heretical Christianity, and that's a quote.
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Between civilized people, let's have that discussion.
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Me and everybody else, we must stop dealing in absolutes.
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That's Sith thinking that first leads to the silencing of voices, and then in extreme cases, the execution of those voices that just won't be silenced.
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Look, our founders were really, really clear on this.
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They knew that liberty doesn't die with a bang.
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When voices are silenced, even the ugly ones, we begin the dissent.
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Jefferson wrote, the error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it.
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That means as long as there's a free man that is willing and able to say, that's a dumb idea, leave it alone.
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Let just free people have that debate, and it will solve itself.
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They also knew that liberty without moral restraint curdles into chaos.
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Paul wrote, everything is permissible, but not everything is beneficial.
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Just because you have the right to say something doesn't mean it's morally right to say it.
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Well, but that comes with responsibility, which we don't have.
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That comes with morality, which we're losing day by day.
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I mean, that's what, I'm sorry, George Washington said.
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Religion and morality are the twin pillars of political prosperity.
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He meant that a republic cannot survive without shared virtue.
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The moral foundation of our society, the idea that every man is created equal, that rights come from God, not government, that springs directly from, dare I say it, our Judeo-Christian values.
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You don't have to be religious to understand that or to cherish it.
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But if that pillar falls, so does the republic.
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I have to tell you that behind your back, I was talking to Steve Deese about you yesterday.
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And we were saying that you are the only major conservative voice that actually loves fiction.
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You know, when we come on, when we talk to you, we feel like, oh, at least here's somebody who actually reads and appreciates the art.
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So we were giving you big appreciation behind your back.
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It's really, I was wondering, I wanted to ask you this off the air because I didn't know if anybody would be interested, but I'm going to ask you now because you kind of brought it up.
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And I mean, it used to be, you know, you could have millions sold and then, you know, having a 1 million or a 2 million sales book became harder and harder.
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Now, I would imagine a book that sells a million copies is a wild out of control bestseller.
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But it's, it's crazy businesses has, yeah, the reading has gone down and the business has been, is so feminized that, you know, writing books, men hardly read novels at all anymore.
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I'm not alone, but I'm one of the last remaining guys who writes books for men and women.
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You know, they have love stories in them, but they're action books and they're full of, full of the questions that men are thinking about.
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And like, it's just really tough to get that out there.
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And they are, they also, you know, they blacklist white men.
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And my, my editor, Otto Penzler, who is probably the major figure in the 20th century for mystery publishing.
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Uh, he's been, he's been canceled at things because they say he publishes too many white men.
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I, I, I got out of my relationship with, uh, Simon and Schuster because it, it got so crazy just on, just on nonfiction books.
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And then they want to make sure that your, your vision is there.
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This is after that, the dark, I'm going to tell you, Glenn, absolutely.
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Honestly, this is one of the best books I ever wrote.
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It's about this, this guy, Cameron winter, who's been trying to escape his past as a government
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This is, this book has all, all of the things, all of the themes that have been playing out
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And, uh, he, he meets this girl that he is really falling for and they go out on a first
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date and she tells him, she, she knows he likes kind of odd murders and she tells him a
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true story about a murder in a locked room of classic locker room mystery.
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And he just to impress her, he tries to solve the murder and he opens up this absolute hornet's
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So he's, this guy is trying to escape being an assassin, but he finds it.
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He's going to have to kill some people to get out of this alive.
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And it's, uh, you know, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
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Can I ask, you know, in the locked room, it's an institution, a padded, a padded.
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However, it does feel a little inspired by Jeffrey Epstein is always on a good crime writer's
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No, there are all kinds of, uh, Epsteinian themes in the book.
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I have to say because of the, uh, there's a lot of, a lot of dark stuff going on behind
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Uh, so, um, you also have, you know, the billionaire that is played also has a, again,
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I'm sure, because I'm sure it says at the very beginning, any, anything that would make
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you think this billionaire was like George Soros.
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I give you these books and you just turn them into these horrible conspiracies.
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So, uh, so Andrew, how do we turn this or cause I'm really, I'm really bothered by, you know,
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It was, uh, the stat was, was it 58, 58% of Americans have a sixth grade level, uh, reading
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And they're shutting down, uh, schools for gifted kids and the school.
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And I have to tell you the way they treat poor people, black people, people in, in underserved
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I mean, my, my daughter taught in one of the worst schools in the country for a couple of
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years, and she had to close the door in order to teach kids values because if they caught
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her teaching kids good values, they would tell her she was doing something terribly wrong.
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The things that they withhold from underprivileged children and the fact that they shut down
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these schools as they did during, um, COVID and, and the teachers union just ruled the
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party and ruled the country there for a couple of years.
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Um, um, Weingarten said that she was for the opening of schools.
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It's one of the great joys of life, reading one of the great joys of life.
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If anything expands your soul, if that is a possible thing, it's reading.
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And I think, I think reading fiction, you know, approaching the arts, I think the arts
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I like, I mean, just, just being able to understand the culture that you're in good and bad, what's
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happening, it helps you understand human nature.
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And to take that away from kids and to take it away from people in general, it's just,
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I remember at lunchtime, my fourth grade teacher read, um, you could stay in for lunch
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and she would read, uh, little house on the prairie and, uh, she was a great reader and
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Uh, and you know, I read, you know, books back then, especially, you know, written, you
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know, prior to the modern age, they were, they were written to be read out loud, especially
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And I think Mark Twain too, if you had a great reader, a great storyteller in your family
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that, and you had access to these books, you had television, you had movies, it would
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Nobody is, nobody is reading to their children out loud and really taking them for adventures.
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You know, I, when I was in sixth grade, we had to memorize a poem and I memorized the
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And I have to say, having that poem in my head and having other poems in my head, I have
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It's like having somebody in, you know, in the dark of night, there's something you
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can always think, go to, it is like connecting with another soul.
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Like you were talking about teachers who introduced things to you.
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I remember this teacher who introduced just the first scene from Macbeth with the witches
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and all this stuff and the witches telling Macbeth that he was going to be king.
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So he thought, well, maybe I have to murder the king to be king.
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You know, and I've been, I've been a Shakespeare lover all my life and that was in third grade.
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And it's just a terrible thing to be deprived of.
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And I think for some people, I think for the, for people who are past childhood, I think
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the internet gets in the way, you know, I think the phones that drop, draw you into these
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little bursts of information without drawing into real stories and real life.
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Uh, you know, I, I became friends with Orson Welles daughter, um, and, uh, you know, cause
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I collect, I have a lot of his, I have his original war of the world script.
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I have all of his original scripts, you know, with his hand annotated, you know, scripts from
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everything from Citizen Kane to, you know, all of it.
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Um, and we were talking one time, his daughter and I, and, uh, she said, you know, I didn't
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And she said, he was my best friend and we did everything together.
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Now imagine being homeschooled by Orson Welles.
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But anyway, she said, you want to know how I learned Shakespeare?
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And she said, Friday came and my dad said, be ready Monday morning.
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So be ready by seven, um, and be ready to, you know, bring a, bring a jacket.
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And she said, uh, he came into my room and said, come on, let's go on Monday morning.
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He had packed a picnic basket, brought a blanket.
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And my dad pulled up to this old castle and he stood, he stood, uh, with the castle as
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And he laid the blanket down and I sat down and he stood up with the backdrop of the castle.
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And, you know, he, he made a film, he made a film of a fellow that has been pieced together.
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That's one of the best Shakespeare films ever made.
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You know, you know, you want to take that collection.
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You want to do for the 250th birthday of America.
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Like they didn't the last time, I think it was 200, they did a train that went across
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I was involved in the beginning and I don't know what, where the ending is, but we talked
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about doing something with trucks with the white house.
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Um, and I, the last I heard we were going to be taking it on buses or trucks around the
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And I don't know if that's, I don't know if that's happening still or not.
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Um, but we are going to be, we're going to be doing a lot of, a lot of stuff with it.
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Cause it's, it's, uh, you know, I thought about the train, you know, 1976, you know,
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You, you remember this, do you remember the bicentennial logo, you know, the star, the
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And I thought, I remember this being everywhere.
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I remember it being, you know, 1776, 1976 on our coins, everything here we are at, at
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two 50 and there's nothing, you're not even talking about anything.
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I mean, Trump is doing something, but the government, they're not doing anything.
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And, and, you know, I mean, it has been one of the things that I love about Trump is the
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fact that he does care, you know, about the culture, about the arts, about fiction and
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Speaking over, uh, the Kennedy center, which I think is great.
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People are protesting it and all that stuff, but it's no, this, these are great things
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because, because we've lost it to this little group of people who feel like entitled to
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hound artists, uh, out of the, you know, we're talking about the publishing industry.
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That's just leftism, leftist hounding artists out of the square because they don't like their
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And people like me are getting very rare, you know, people who write novels that actually
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have a vision that, that other people can agree with and is not imposing this leftist
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You know, we were talking, um, a few weeks ago, I think off the air, I don't think we
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shared this on the air, but, um, back in 2010, I think I did something at the, uh, I rented
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out the, the, uh, Kennedy center and I was doing a night at the Kennedy center and I said,
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And I asked them if they had one, assuming it's Washington DC, of course they have a backdrop
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And they said the American flag, when I put the flag on the stage, I was told by the
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Kennedy center, this is the first time the American flag has ever been on stage at the
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And he's the only, the only president who ever thought that maybe this could be changed.
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You know, it ever, the only time it ever occurred to anybody that we don't have to live like
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We don't have to live with this little small sliver of the population who hate our country,
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who hate our values, dictating everything that we see and do.
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And I think that the Republicans have a lot to answer for, for the 50 years in which they
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They shrugged off the news media that, you know, was all on one side.
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And I think that that's, you know, it's kind of what's brought us here.
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I think we're in this really weird moment when the culture has, has flatlined because
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of these crazy, woke ideas, which basically call evil, good and good evil.
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And I think it's about to come back and I would really like it if conservatives and people
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of traditional mind, you know, it sort of get involved and sort of say, yeah, you know,
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I want to make sure that our culture doesn't fall like this again, because it's, it's so bad.
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It's so bad for children, it's bad for young people, it's bad for everybody, it's bad for
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Andrew Klavan, as always, my friend, it is good to talk to you.