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On this episode of the Glenn Beck Podcast, host Glenn sits down with his wife, Tana Beck, to talk about her thoughts on the President Trump's White House visit and what she thought of it. Also, Andrew Klavan, a good friend of the program, tries to talk down to Glenn a little bit because he's smarter than him.
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and if you missed it, we play some of the highlights, some of the shocking things that he said.
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Also, Andrew Klavan, a good friend of the program, tries to talk down to me just a little bit,
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And the one and only Tonya Beck, my wife, usually not wowed by anything.
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Sarah wanted to know, what did she think about the White House tour and visiting the White House
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with President Trump and the history stuff he talked about?
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Sarah said to me in the break, she said, I'm more interested in what your wife has to think about it.
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And I'm like, I mean, I'm the broadcaster of the family.
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Yeah, but she is not a huge history nerd like you are, and she's not impressed by anything.
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So I figured she might be impressed about this trip.
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She is, she's not, she's been invited to, I've gone to the White House maybe three times.
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I take my kids every time, because she's like, no, I'd rather, I don't want to go.
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We're going to get all dressed up and go someplace.
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So she's, she, first time she went to Mar-a-Lago was just a couple months ago.
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And I know she had an amazing day, but I, you're right.
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I would like to hear what she has to say about all the history stuff.
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I'm calling her on my, I'm going to FaceTime her right now.
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I mean, I'm just saying she, she has expressed what her will is.
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I just said, she's listening and she's blocking me.
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Because she's not interested in you or what you want.
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We don't need, I didn't even know we had a pool boy, but that's who she's with.
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What, can you describe how she felt about this?
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I mean, we were with each other and I knew she had a great time and we talked about it,
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but I didn't ask her like, what'd you think of the history part?
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You know, it's like, Sarah said she's not into that.
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And so it's the reason why we have such a great marriage.
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Because if we were the same, we destroy each other.
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And so we get along because she's just not interested in a lot of this stuff.
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She's not interested in politics and she's not impressed by anything.
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Hey, I wanted to say a great job on the interview last night.
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You know, getting President Trump unfiltered and kind of unbiased.
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I was listening with my 10-year-old at dinner last night.
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And it's really tough to get quality, truthful sources, especially for the kids, right?
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And so it's great to kind of see him in that, where you were kind of not guiding him, but
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And to me, it kind of equated to during the campaign, the Joe Rogan moment, you know,
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where he did the interview for a couple hours, the first time people really saw him.
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Like, that's kind of what I thought about last night.
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It's like, man, I've been waiting for an update for two or three months.
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You know, when you're doing it, you have absolutely no idea.
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And even I'm watching it this morning, and I was like, I don't know if that, I don't
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I've been able to watch all of his interviews with all these different anchors and people,
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The nature of my professional life has made that possible.
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I was so struck by your command of the situation.
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There were pauses where no one was trying to talk over or interrupt him.
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It was just a flow that I just had not seen yet.
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And as you were saying earlier in the program, it really shows us who Donald Trump really
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I'm going to go back and ask him if he'd do something different with me at the White House.
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Next time I go, I'm going to see if I can get some different kind of interview.
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Because you really didn't see the best parts of him.
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And his staff even said, they said, as he was leaving, his staff said, he's not like
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She said, he's like a kid in a candy store with you.
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He's like all about history and just like, look at this, look at this.
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I mean, he was literally almost like dragging me into places like, come on, come on, come
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It was so amazing to see how excited he was about the history of our country and preservation
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I thought it was one of the best interviews I've seen.
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He was relaxed and he was, I can't really put my finger on it, but he just seemed to
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And I really thought it was one of the best interviews I've ever seen of anybody.
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And I have love, I can't wait for the next one.
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I, I, uh, it was, um, it's so odd because I can't judge it.
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I don't see, did you see, did you feel it was different than other interviews that you've
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It didn't, it didn't, it did, it did feel more relaxed.
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It didn't feel like he was, you know, trying to get some agenda through.
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I think he was legitimately trying to answer your questions and bring you through his thought
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Cause he, he can talk and talk and talk and talk and talk.
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And, uh, he answered a few questions like, okay, go ahead, come, come back at me, which
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I thought was interesting was the first time I think I've seen that with him.
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Y'all know how to make our day by making us laugh.
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And I sure did enjoy it that you address the tyrannical judicial insurrection.
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And you showed us that he is totally aware of it and he knows his options and he just
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And I really appreciated that because that was one of the worst things that I was fearing.
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You know, we were up in the, um, the Lincoln bedroom and we were talking about Lincoln
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and, uh, and he, he looked at me at one point and he said, you know, you said that you
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And I said, well, you know, trail of tears was not real good.
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You know, he would, he would tell his friends, Hey, by the way, I'm going to be seizing this
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Indian land and, uh, be auctioning off, you know, first come first serve.
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And he said, but the judicial part you were okay with.
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And I said, oh yeah, with what he did with the judges, absolutely fine.
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And he's like, yeah, that's the part that I really like.
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So he has been thinking about what do we do with these judges?
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And he's not going to, I didn't get the impression he's going there first.
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He's going to ride it out and try to work the system as long as he can.
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And then if they just won't, if they just keep doing this, he's going to draw a line and
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When, when you have somebody like Mike Lee, who is the least radical of anybody, uh, I
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mean, I'm surprised the guy doesn't have a flat top haircut.
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Um, but when he says this is judicial insurrection, uh, you can pretty much bank on that, that it
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would have constitutional, uh, weight behind it if he acted that way.
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And I was, I was pleased to see that he has really thought deeply about it and constitutionally
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Uh, I've got a little bit different take on your interview with the president yesterday.
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Uh, I thought even I'll start at the beginning where you did.
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You spent the first five to seven minutes talking when you could have been asking the president
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Let me, let me, let me take these one by one here.
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If you've ever interviewed a president where, you know, you're going to ask tough questions,
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you, and you were on, you had told them that this was about the hundred days and the accomplishments
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You better start with the accomplishments that the administration has made, uh, and, and give
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So that's the reason why I did spend about three, four minutes there at the beginning,
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And another part of it was Donald Trump kept going back to, Oh, 2016.
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And I walked away with it thinking I didn't learn anything that I previously didn't know.
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And in addition, one of the biggies is the debt bomb, which he kind of danced around, but
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And you briefly mentioned it with, Hey, you started with 2 trillion, but you ended up with
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I wish I would have, I didn't push him on that.
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That, and the, the, the other one was the Pam Bondi deal in the justice department.
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So let's use the Tesla's with, it was supposed to be an act of terrorism.
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We have somebody who apparently, wait, wait, wait, she is going after the Tesla people that
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I'm worried about some of the other things that she has been ignoring, but tell me where,
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I mean, she has been going on against the Tesla.
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Well, let's start with the JFK special when she announced that, Hey, here's what we're
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It's going to be this and, and, and nothing happened.
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And the reason why I let him skate on that is because, uh, I have information from people
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who are around those individuals, um, that I pushed before the interview, they were not
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connected to the white house and I pushed them, uh, beforehand.
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If people start, don't start to go to jail for things that are legitimate, legitimately
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If they're not prosecuted, my audience is really going to be upset.
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Nothing will change if we don't clean this system up.
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And both in separate situations, both of them said, you don't understand Congress and
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Congress is holding back some of the people that they need as second and third ranks that
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And the Congress is saying, you know, like we gave you everybody you wanted.
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And they're holding them up until possibly even August.
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And so I was stuck in this trap with him of pushing him into a place to where if that
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is the answer, he wasn't going to give me the answer because he was, he was negotiating
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with Congress, I believe on the big, beautiful bill.
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So the only answer I was going to get from him was it's not Congress.
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And, and so what he gave me and I accepted because of the additional information I had,
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I accepted, uh, he said, it's early, let them work.
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What I interpreted that as is they've got things they have to do first.
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Uh, and I will come back to him, you know, you know, if I talk to him again, we have
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another sit down by the end of the year, I will come back to him if nothing has changed
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And Bill, it's just to summarize what you're saying here.
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You're saying Glenn was a miserable failure during the interview.
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You may have planned, uh, you may have been planned by your mom and your dad or not.
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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program.
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Andrew Klavan, host of the Andrew Klavan Program, the Andrew Klavan Show.
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I don't think I've seen you out of your element, I don't think ever.
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And you, I got to tell you, the best compliment I can give you is your son is remarkable.
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You know, I hope someday somebody will say that about my children to me.
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So tell me about The Kingdom of Cain and talk down to me.
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Actually, it's a really simple book and very entertaining because it's about the movies
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Let me read this to you, Stuart, and see if you understand what this is.
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The Kingdom of Cain looks at three murders in history, including the first murder, Cain's
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killing of his brother, Abel, and at the art created from imaginative engagement from
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those horrific events by artists ranging from Dosyevsky to Hitchcock.
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To make beauty out of the world as it is shot through with evil and injustice and suffering,
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it is the task not just of the artists, but Klavan argues of every life rightly lived.
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Examining how the transformation occurs in art grants us a vision on how it can happen in
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I don't know what you're missing, but that was perfect.
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It says, you call yourself a Christian, that part is true, and yet you write about horrific
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You write about prostitutes and gangsters and all this stuff.
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I believe that God is a central fact of reality, and I believe that any artist who speaks truthfully
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And so what I did was I took three murders, three very famous murders, and I showed how
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they inspired works of art over and over and over again.
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They were not just one work of art, but they kept coming back, and those works of art inspired
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And how those works of art actually speak about something that happens to a society when it
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begins to lose its faith, as our society has certainly done.
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And they chart those works of art, and some of them are just, some of them are like the
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stupidest little horror movie, and yet the guy who was making that horror movie understood
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If you go back, for instance, and watch a slasher movie like Halloween, which is actually
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quite a good little scary movie, it actually is about the fall of the end of faith and
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It takes place in a suburb where there are no moms, and the dads are very weak.
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And this knife-wielding crazy man comes back and basically preys on kids having sex while
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I'll bet if you asked the director what he was doing, he would tell you that, because
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it's right in the movie when you notice it, but you have to be watching for it.
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And the thing is, these movies are, you know, not just movies, but novels, the arts, really
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And so taking the way that they look at murder tells us things that are bad about our culture,
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but it also tells us about ways that we want to go in the future.
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The role, for instance, of psychiatrists in these films.
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Most of these films are based on murder committed by Ed Gein in the 1950s, a guy in Wisconsin
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who used to kill women, right, and then dress up in their bodies, just like in Silence of
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It inspired a really good horror movie called The Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
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Even though it's a crazy title, it's actually a good movie.
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The Silence of the Lambs, all of these movies grow out of that one murder.
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It's about confusion, about sexual, about gender, you know?
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We don't see a lot of that going around nowadays.
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These movies were being made in the 1950s, 60s, 70s, and 80s, and on.
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And so they were predicting, as art often does, what was going to happen and explaining why.
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Do you think Alfred Hitchcock knew that this was coming?
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Or was he just making a good, he was a good storyteller?
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T.S. Eliot said, a great poet writes himself, and in writing himself, he writes his time.
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These artists basically bring something out of themselves.
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But it reveals where we all are, and that reveals where we're going, right?
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If you see where we are, you can tell where we're going.
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And that's why the book does not just concentrate on the darkness.
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Now that we know what's happening, how do you react to those things in a creative, joyful way?
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Because this is what, look, the Bible doesn't say things are going to be great, right?
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The Bible says, yeah, if God comes, we crucify, and yet at the same time, it says rejoice evermore.
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And so one of the things that really bothers me about Christian movies is they don't really represent life.
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They're all, if you do a Christian movie that has real things in it, you get slammed.
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One of the major influences that turned me to Christ when I was 19 years old, it took three decades to kick in,
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but it was reading Crime and Punishment, the great novel by Dostoevsky about an axe murder and about a prostitute who basically turns this axe murderer's life around.
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If you walked into a Christian bookstore today and said, can I have that book about the axe murderer and the hooker?
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Yeah, they would look at you like you were nuts.
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But because Dostoevsky was a great artist and a great Christian, one of the truly deep and interesting Christians in history,
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he revealed something about the philosophies that were rising up at that time and that are still with us today,
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the philosophies that later became spoken out by Nietzsche.
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And Nietzsche affected all of the leftist philosophers that you and I love so much and have done so many good things for our society.
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So let's pretend somebody didn't read that by Dostoevsky or whatever his name is and tell us the story and exactly what he was teaching.
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Well, the idea was that God is dead, God is gone, and therefore instead of having this horrible Christian philosophy that is nice to the poor and the weak and has charity and compassion,
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we need strong special men like Napoleon, for instance, who are going to make their own law.
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And this man in the story, Crime and Punishment, says, well, if I can make my own law, I can murder somebody and it won't be a sin, it won't be wrong.
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And then he actually accomplishes this murder and finds, oh, wait, oh, wait, I have actually shattered the moral order and now my life is spiraling out of control.
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Now, Nietzsche wrote his philosophy, which was the exact philosophy in this book, after Dostoevsky wrote the novel.
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And then his philosophy inspired two murderers in America named Leopold and Loeb.
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This was called the Crime of the Century, the Crime of the 20th Century.
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I know, nobody remembers it now, but it was one of the biggest crimes of the century.
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It inspired countless movies and television shows.
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It was two kids, they were rich, gay, Jewish kids in the suburbs.
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And they decided, well, we're supermen, like Nietzsche.
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They read Nietzsche and they thought, yes, this is what we want to be, one of them.
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And we're going to commit the perfect murder just to show that we can do it.
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And so they just picked a kid at random who they knew and took him out and killed him.
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And Rope became the Hitchcock film and also inspired Compulsion is another movie, is almost a true movie about it.
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And it just pops up again and again, two people who say we're going to commit the perfect murder because we're superior.
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If you look for it, you'll find it in one story after another.
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And it's based on the idea that there's no God and therefore anything is permissible and strong men have to make the rules.
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That's one of the best movies of Hitchcock and nobody even knows it.
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Great movie from Hitchcock and great movie with Jimmy Stewart.
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And written, the original play was written by the guy who also wrote a play called Gaslight, which is where we get the word gaslighting.
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And so I talk all about these works of art and these works of movies.
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And listen, I think it's an entertaining book, Glenn.
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I mean, you know, most people, if you don't know who Andrew Klavan is, you've written movies.
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I mean, you've written some just thrilling novels and novels that have been made into movies.
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But, I mean, you know, you are talking to mice here.
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Well, I try to just make it about things that people like and enjoy.
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So what is the lesson that we learn from all of this?
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Well, I think the most important lesson, if I can call it that in the book, is that beauty has something to do with the answer to evil.
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Well, you know, one of the things that keeps people from believing in God, they say there's so much evil in the world.
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And at the end of the book, the last third of the book, which is a very personal statement about what I do to basically live joyfully in a world that I can see as evil,
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it ends with looking at the Pieta, the statue by Michelangelo, that is one of the most beautiful works of sculpture.
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And yet, Michelangelo, a man, made it beautiful.
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And my question at the end of the book is, if a man can take that misery, that suffering, that evil, and turn it into beauty,
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what can God do with the world that we're living in now when he works in the marble of eternity?
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And so I work my way to that point by going through the movies that we watch and the stories that we read and why we're so fascinated with murder.
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Because it is the borderline where you cannot say there's something right about this.
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It's the place where we suddenly realize that the moral order has its gray points, but it also has a very stark black line.
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So explain to me why shows like, let's say, Yellowstone are so satisfying because you're kind of like seeing that guy take into the train station.
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You know that it's wrong, but you're kind of in there.
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I mean, I'm sure a lot of people watch and they're like, ah, that's fine.
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I watch and I'm like, I don't like the fact that I kind of, I'm rooting for them.
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It makes you think like, yeah, I'm really enjoying this, but that actually tells me something about myself that now I have to go and think about.
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And that's what art, see, a lot of people think that art is like a sugar pill that they use to give you a little lesson in life, a little parable sort of.
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I think it's an experience that you really can't have in your life that broadens the way you look at life, broadens your view of humanity.
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And so when you get Christian stories like God is not dead, I don't want to pick on anybody, but still, you get these guys.
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The guy is hit by a car and everybody says, well, at least he was saved.
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And I think, really, we can't just say, we can't call his wife first and say this is a sad moment, you know, that we grieve when people die.
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And like, we can't say we're horrified by death and afraid, you know.
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So I want Christian art that deals with life in a real way that shows people are afraid and people have evil thoughts and people want to justify murder.
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And there are moments when we all sort of think, look, if you go off into a room by yourself and ask, how can I make the perfect world?
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Within two minutes, so help me, you will be committing mass murder in your mind.
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And we say, well, first I got rid of these people because these people can't be reformed.
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And when we start to see that, I believe that that's actually a layer on top of who we really are.
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I believe who we really are is who Christ wants us to be, this loving person.
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They show us our true selves and they lead our conscience to the place that it's supposed to go.
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And then we're encapsulated in this flesh and the natural man is an enemy to that.
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You know, one of the stories I mentioned in the Kingdom of Cain is Macbeth because it's such a great story about murder.
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And it ends with the most beautiful speech about nihilism, about things, nothing makes sense, nothing is worth anything, right?
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But because you're watching the play, you understand that Shakespeare's not saying that.
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A guy who has detached himself from the moral order is saying that.
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He's lost the meaning of life because he's detached himself from the meaning of life.
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And so studying murder and writing art about murder takes you to the most serious questions about who we are and who we really are and what we really want and how we, you know, we, that inner battle that goes on, which is, to me, the source of drama.
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00:34:23.620
So, uh, Sarah said she's less interested in hearing me talk about the experience of the White House and wants to hear more about you.
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Now, remember, you are, you did sign a nondisclosure on some parts.
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But, uh, what, what was your whole, Sarah, what was it you wanted?
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He's talked about you so much and how you're never impressed with anything.
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And he's like a kid in a candy store with that sort of stuff.
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And so that was just walking in there was so humbling.
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And, you know, just had to keep pinching myself because I couldn't really believe I was there.
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And then getting the tour after the interview was phenomenal.
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I think the last time I was there was in a high school trip.
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And we actually could go into the White House at that point and didn't see very much.
00:35:42.620
You know, he's very intimidating at first when you meet him, but he just makes you feel comfortable.
00:35:48.140
How do you mean he's intimidating when you first meet him?
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Well, he's the president of the United States, for heaven's sake.
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He'll say to me from time to time, he'll be like, why didn't you call me?
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And I'm like, because you're the president of the United States.
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He studied, and he knows, yeah, the history, the presidents, you know, what they did, the kind of people they were.
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Did you sense any hesitation on anything that we talked about on, you know, on where he was going or that you felt like, oh, it felt a little weird about that?
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So you were impressed by where your husband took you yesterday?
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Were you impressed by your husband or by beating Donald Trump?
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I mean, it's nice that you can get your wife on the phone now.
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So she's the one I can still kind of get on the phone from time to time.
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You know, somebody called up and said that they felt that I was nervous in the interview.
00:38:02.760
I mean, I had two different feelings, actually, about the tariffs.
00:38:06.520
Because you brought up the tariffs and you said, look, I don't like tariffs.
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And he kind of like, he went, he started explaining why he thought they were necessary.
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I had a 30-minute conversation with him on tariffs where I pushed him to the wall.
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And he actually, towards the end, he said, you'll like him.
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In a year, we'll have another interview and you'll tell me that you like him.
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And I said, I've been wrong with you before and I hope to be wrong again.
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It's funny because my initial reaction was you didn't, because you kind of got into this
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setup of, you know, I don't really like tariffs, but I'm trying to give you the benefit
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And you got in the middle of it and he kind of interrupted you and went on to a point
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And my first inclination was like, you didn't really fight him on it.
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And then my second instinct was, I will say, I mean, I've seen a lot of interviews, especially
00:39:16.320
with people on the right with Donald Trump about this topic.
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And it was more pushback than I've seen from anybody, really, to be honest with you, at
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And I thought it must be difficult at the White House, in the Roosevelt Room, sitting with
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the president of the United States to be like, you know, this particular policy is not
00:39:36.720
I mean, there must be, that must be, was there any level of...
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I mean, Donald Trump, you know, he will go for people who don't like his policies and
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he will push them to the wall and in a good spirited way and try to figure out why.
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But like Zelensky, if you've had that conversation and it's already decided, you know, don't
00:40:01.560
Don't keep fighting me on it because you're going to get the same answer over and over
00:40:08.280
I mean, you weren't trying to have some big adversarial argument, but you did want to
00:40:13.500
But I will tell you, this is one of the, and I haven't told him this yet.
00:40:17.600
I'm waiting for the right opportunity to tell them this because I think he'll really appreciate
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it, but I don't know how to tell him this story.
00:40:27.600
We were in Mar-a-Lago and he invited, you know, I'm just doing an interview and he's
00:40:41.920
I'm in a jacket, but everybody else in the crew is in like, you know, black pants and a black
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And I said, I kind of pointed at everybody and he's like, no, everybody.
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So he invited everybody to have dinner on him at Mar-a-Lago.
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So we're all sitting at this table and, um, he comes by and he says, we're looking at the menu.
00:41:09.460
And he says, Glenn, you got to have the Salisbury steak.
00:41:15.560
And I said, uh, okay, now I don't really like Salisbury's.
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I remember having Salisbury steak when it was like in the TV dinner kind of thing, you know?
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And he's like, no, trust me, you and me, look at us.
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Everybody tells me the Salisbury steak best they've ever had.
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So I ordered the Salisbury steak and I eat it and everybody's waiting at the table.
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They're like, well, well, how's the Salisbury steak?
00:41:50.380
And I said, yeah, I mean, it's not, it's not bad, but it's not, you know, the greatest Salisbury steak.
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I don't know what is the greatest Salisbury steak in the world, but.
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Cause he said, everybody tells me is the greatest Salisbury steak in the world.
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I said, nobody is willing to tell him that it's meh.
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And then he'll come back and say, what'd you think?
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So nobody has the balls to tell him cause he's the president of the United States.
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And I was, as it was coming out of my mouth, I'm like, oh my God, I'm one of those people.
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I can't tell him the truth about a stupid Salisbury steak.
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So he still thinks if you're going to Mar-a-Lago, meh, meh, no matter what he says, meh.
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But I guarantee you, if you order it and he asks you, you'll tell him it's the best you've ever had.
00:43:18.520
You went through kind of every big topic and covered a lot of what they went through.
00:43:25.680
It was interesting because I feel like earlier interviews you've done with him, you would
00:43:30.000
ask a question and he would kind of, I wouldn't say filibuster is the right term exactly.
00:43:41.360
Like he stopped a couple of times when I thought he was going to kind of go on a rant and let
00:43:46.960
And I think that led to getting to a good amount of stuff rather than, you know, two questions
00:43:57.780
I asked him after the cameras were off because I just, I've wanted to tell him this story
00:44:04.680
I mean, I knew he knew, but I didn't know if he connected.
00:44:07.480
I said, is there, is it ironic to you that when Nikolai Tesla died, your uncle, John G.
00:44:17.940
Trump, who was at MIT, was asked by the government to come in and go through his papers to see which
00:44:24.800
is good and which is dangerous, what could be shipped back with him to his home for his museum
00:44:29.920
and his library and which needed to stay classified.
00:44:34.080
And here you are now working with the new Tesla.
00:44:38.780
You're working with a guy who brought the name Tesla even back.
00:44:49.540
And he just lit up and said, you know, he likes it when people know stories that nobody
00:44:58.340
And he said, yeah, let me tell you about my uncle.
00:45:02.140
And he just shot an extra, I don't know, five minutes.
00:45:05.100
They were yelling at him about the, you know, National Security Council is waiting.
00:45:25.180
And then I also gave a tour of the Roosevelt Room as we were setting up.
00:45:33.000
I wish people could really take tours of the White House.
00:45:37.000
I mean, you can take a tour of the White House.
00:45:38.880
But I wish you could take the tour I took with him.
00:45:46.900
And unlike the other places that are being treated like trash in Washington, D.C.
00:45:52.640
now, the National, I was in the Smithsonian, in the Portuary.
00:46:05.120
And it was, I mean, it looked like it hasn't been cleaned since, you know, 1872.
00:46:15.620
And it's just, it's disgusting the way it's all been taken care of.
00:46:29.780
And I'm like, you know, maybe some people appreciate it.
00:46:31.740
But I just, I can't take, I can't take it in your face as, look how bad America has been.
00:47:00.780
I mean, you know, again, I wouldn't have put you in the Radio Hall of Fame for it, but it's something.
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