On today's show, we have the Supreme Court weighing in on what could be the end of the 4th branch of government. Also, Andy Ngo on the conspiracy theories that could mean no justice for Charlie Kirk and his killer. All this and more on today s show.
00:26:08.920Leaders answer to the consent of the governed.
00:26:11.700In other words, you get to vote them out.
00:26:13.800Now, what happens to that system when an independent agency wields the power to regulate business, punish citizens, rewrite the economic rules, effectively legislate?
00:26:28.100Yet the president, the only officer elected by the people, cannot remove those people in charge.
00:26:33.860That doesn't sound like a government of the people and by the people.
00:27:24.320They make the rules, they enforce the rules, they adjudicate disputes, they punish violations, and they do it without ever standing for election, without ever answering to you.
00:27:38.740And if this stands, without any meaningful presidential oversight, you don't have a country that responds to you at all.
00:27:52.180The founders would have looked at this structure and said, you've created exactly what we designed the Constitution to prevent, a government within the government, a bureaucracy above the ballot box, a system where experts rule because they believe they know better than the people.
00:28:12.960Look, if this were so constitutional, if this was the right thing to do, why did Woodrow Wilson work so hard and the progressives work so hard from the 1900s, late 1800s, 1900s, to about 1935 to get it done?
00:29:18.420Well, the president, if he can fire people, if he can fire people that are making laws, enforcing laws that don't answer to anyone, if he can do that, that means you can vote for a president and say to him,
00:29:34.820I want this crap to stop, I want this crap to stop, what is this?
00:31:08.780The justices asked a really critical question.
00:31:11.860If Congress can invent more of these agencies, give them long terms, shield them from removal, and then turn them loose on the American people,
00:31:20.300what stops Congress from turning the executive branch into a museum piece?
00:31:54.420This is not about any single commissioner.
00:31:57.060It's about whether the American experiment still remembers its first principles.
00:32:01.600If sovereignty flows from the people, then the people must be able to correct the system.
00:32:07.400But if government power is placed beyond your reach, beyond accountability, beyond elections, then you are no longer sovereign.
00:32:16.660You are simply a subject managed by experts, ruled by committees, supervised by a permanent clerical class whose careers outlast everybody you've ever voted for.
00:36:33.860My frustration with how, I'll just be direct.
00:36:41.040I think the podcasting space has been praised a lot in recent years because it's opened up discussions for people who have been shut out, ideas that have been shut out.
00:36:52.460But I think we're now seeing the dark side that can come with that when kind of anything can go and that clickbait and perhaps financial motives may be at the forefront of the minds of some unethical podcasters.
00:37:12.920And in the case of the Charlie Kirk assassination, he was somebody I knew personally.
00:37:21.540And so it disturbed me to see conspiracy theories go so viral.
00:37:29.140And for people to treat it as if it was just like this is okay to be a sideshow, just to have discussions.
00:37:39.620When there's an open investigation and the conspiracy theories that are being propagated are meant to not just ask questions.
00:37:49.680This isn't just about asking questions, it's about actually planting seeds of doubt into people's minds about the integrity of the entire investigation, even though they know very little about it.
00:38:01.520And what's worse is impugning the reputations of people that Charlie loved, clearly, with suggestions and innuendos of misconduct or even worse.
00:38:18.400So I had to speak out, I could no longer sit back and, you know, I spent my entire entire journalism career writing about the violence of the far left and Antifa.
00:38:30.160And I saw that all of the focus that had been on that temporarily after Charlie's murder was, nobody was discussing that anymore.
00:38:44.760And so the threat of left-wing violence had been completely diverted into nonsense.
00:38:53.020I really have to emphasize the nonsense.
00:38:55.000All these threads that people think they're pulling have led to nothing.
00:38:58.960And instead of realizing that they're wrong, they double down and say that lack of evidence is evidence for something else.
00:39:10.480And so, like, this can't continue, you know.
00:39:13.520And the danger of it really is it may be really difficult in a year's time or year's time to find a jury pool that's not tainted by all of these conspiracy theories and lies that have been propagated now for months.
00:39:34.940And you're seeing, you know, ex-Elon Musk, I tell you, I don't know if we'd have a country today if it wasn't for what Elon Musk has done to Twitter.
00:39:46.760But, you know, he started saying, this is where this is coming from.
00:39:51.720This is a bot and it's out of Russia or wherever.
00:39:55.340And so you're starting to see the foreign influence.
00:39:57.960But a lot of these conspiracy theories, they are being hyped up by bots and by foreign actors that do not wish us well.
00:40:08.180And it doesn't seem like what's happening is, like you, I'm not afraid of questions.
00:40:32.020If you don't agree with the question or the answer that they want to provide for that question, then you somehow or another are an enemy that has sold out.
00:40:46.000That's that's extraordinarily dangerous and doesn't seem to be coming from any place.
00:41:02.840Yes, I've been receiving a lot of hate messages since publishing my writing.
00:41:08.200I've been so-called compromised that I'm being paid to say these narratives.
00:41:13.240And I don't know, this, this is poison that's been put into the minds of the right, the like the audiences of the podcast, right?
00:41:23.340And it's, you can see how it's eating away at this movement is breaking apart this brief moment of unity we had after we came together in unity after the assassination.
00:41:37.720And if you give me a moment, I would like to address sort of some of the biggest misconceptions I see about the investigation.
00:41:47.820So, one, a lot of people think that there's some evidence of a federal conspiracy because a Utah County judge had issued a gag order.
00:41:57.340If you read the, the gag order, and by the way, this is not a federal case, it's being handled by the state of Utah prosecutors in Utah County, but by the way, so all this focus on feds, this feds, that people are misinformed.
00:42:13.760So, the judge, Judge Tony Graff had issued a gag order on witnesses who had been identified in the case, investigators, counsel, obviously, from making extrajudicial statements, because he wants to keep control of the case from it turning into a whole circus.
00:42:34.880Like, do people not remember what happened in the case of Derek Chauvin, the officer in Minneapolis who was accused of killing George Floyd?
00:42:46.180Like, there was no gag order on that, and that was a complete, I do not think that that trial was fair, given that level of media saturation and how out of hand it got.
00:43:00.400And so, the judge was really wise to put this gag order on.
00:43:05.260You can't have, you know, investigators or potential witnesses going out to media and making a whole bunch of comments that would bias one party or the other in an ongoing case.
00:43:18.320Another misconception is people are saying, why aren't the SBI releasing more information?
00:43:57.520Like, investigators don't release that because this type of stuff goes to the accused's side, and then, of course, to the prosecutors.
00:44:08.000And you keep that evidence preserved so that it's not going to push the public in one way or the other to be biased in any particular way.
00:44:18.580And so there's just the ignorance, I would say, about how criminal investigations and the criminal justice system works in the U.S.,
00:44:27.580and there are podcasters who are really exploiting that and thinking that there's something there when there's nothing for a number of accusations that they've lobbied.
00:44:39.180Andy, you're not for, I mean, I hope that this trial, when it comes, is put on television.
00:44:50.040I think the people have a right to see the trial.
00:44:53.560We don't need, we don't have a right to see everything leading up to the trial, but we do have a right to see the trial, like we did with O.J. Simpson.
00:45:01.560I think, given the public interest, the international interest in this case, that it's for the best for it to be reported so that the public can see.
00:45:20.000Otherwise, only a very, very small number of people who can make it physically inside the courtroom.
00:45:25.300And I don't think that that would be for the interest of justice, in my opinion.
00:46:04.580I mean, I've heard so many things about me lately, about how I'm just taking money from Jews, which is crazy.
00:46:13.140I wish I knew where all that money was going, because I'd like to spend it, especially around Christmas time.
00:46:21.160But it's amazing to me how I was on the list, possibly, if there was any foreign terrorists, except they're making the case that it was the foreign terrorists were actually Israel.
00:46:37.420Why would they kill somebody who they were supposedly paying?
00:46:41.200I mean, it takes two seconds of logic and realize, okay, well, that was a theory, and that just didn't work out.