Glenn and Stu make a bet that if Stu wins, he will not be able to buy a French fry in two years. Social Security benefits are about to go up, and the government is trying to get you to spend your money on a single french fry. Glenn also rants about Alex Jones.
00:04:32.380So, you're like my work wives, and you get more protective of me sometimes than I am.
00:04:38.760And we all know that Alex Jones said right after September 11th that I was the CIA government operative that was on radio only because I was a CIA agent and I was covering, I was leading the media to cover up 9-11.
00:05:00.240Well, and this, our location here is a CIA substation.
00:05:21.660And the first, you remember that, you remember the tour with the Christmas sweater where I thought somebody had a gun that was going to kill me.
00:05:29.520Remember they had the, you know, all traitors must die?
00:28:04.040It's not just conservatives that have rejected the defund the police shtick.
00:28:08.320Everybody thinks this is a terrible idea.
00:28:10.100Even Minnesota backed off of it after they said they were going to do it.
00:28:14.020And yet you have candidates who have like who rose in that era and have found their way into these races like Mandela Barnes in Wisconsin, like Stacey Abrams in in Georgia.
00:28:25.080And they're still there and none of them are performing particularly well, but it is a maybe maybe it would be a positive if these candidates get defeated and get defeated handily.
00:28:36.860Maybe maybe the Democrats will bail on this philosophy a little bit.
00:33:37.640Do you remember the, I don't know what it was, the barriers or the big barriers, national park, you know, monument kind of debacle under Obama?
00:34:08.640And the people on the ground, including the indigenous peoples, don't want the federal government to take this land.
00:34:15.360Well, this is happening all over the country and there's an organization called the Blue Ribbon Coalition that is fighting against these land grabs.
00:34:24.660And the executive director is Ben Burr.
00:35:16.260Well, the Antiquities Act is very clear.
00:35:18.680They wanted, it was enacted to protect Native American archaeological cultural sites.
00:35:24.140There was a period of time in the early 1900s where you did have people looting these sites.
00:35:29.220And so they enacted it to protect these very limited, discrete sites.
00:35:32.500And when they passed the law, they said it needs to be designated to the smallest area compatible to protect the actual object, which is situated on a landscape.
00:35:43.320Fast forward to nowadays and with the strength of the environmental movement, they've decided that a landscape can be an object situated on a landscape.
00:35:52.820And so they say the whole landscape is of important, significant value.
00:35:58.860So we're going to designate something that's bigger than some states to be a new national monument.
00:36:04.140And then they've, we've been in the meetings on this.
00:36:06.940When they put the plans in place, they just restrict all forms of activity.
00:36:11.740Because if you are a rancher or somebody with a mining claim, which is a property right, or one of the partners with us on this case was a Native American woman who owned private property and holdings within the monument.
00:36:23.580Like all of your rights to access those lands, whether they're private property or the other permitted uses, all become heavily restricted is what we've seen.
00:36:34.980So that's why we have challenged this monument, the Biden expansion.
00:36:42.060We joined the state of Utah in doing it.
00:36:44.380We've seen strong signals coming from the Supreme Court that they have concerns that the Antiquities Act is being abused.
00:36:52.140And we hope to see the Supreme Court finally rein in what I think has been decades of abuse of this ancient little law that was designed to fix a really small problem.
00:37:38.040And that's where the 10th Mountain Division went to train during World War II.
00:37:41.620So there is historical significance there.
00:37:43.720It's questions about whether that still qualifies under the Antiquities Act.
00:37:47.120But that base is like 2.4 square miles in size.
00:37:52.260If we were to designate that as a national monument, there is a size we could say, you know what, 2.4 miles is the smallest area compatible.
00:38:00.880But you always get this scope creep where they add in, well, the surrounding landscape is also valuable.
00:38:06.360And in this case, they also withdrew 200,000 acres from mineral entry, which means you can no longer, the lands are no longer open for filing mining claims.
00:38:17.720And so that is how this turns into a big land grab.
00:38:20.580And if you think about that for a second, Glenn, this is like a day after we announced we're cutting off semiconductor exports to China.
00:38:30.260Well, where do we get all of our rare earth minerals now?
00:38:35.940From the ground, but we won't dig for it.
00:38:41.080We're removing all of our land from exploration and utilization through things like these national monuments, things like the 30 by 30 agenda.
00:38:50.580And my group, I mean, we're focused primarily on the recreation access to these public lands.
00:38:56.300But all of this happens in a bigger context of what makes us a strong nation.
00:39:02.220How does the land become a base of our economic strength and national defense strength?
00:39:08.020And the recreation value is hugely important.
00:39:10.960That's become a major economic contributor to all these rural communities.
00:39:14.520And when you enact these monuments, it just throws everything out of whack.
00:39:18.380You disenfranchise local governments from being able to manage what's going on in their counties and states.
00:39:25.080And that's why the state of Utah is opposed to this.
00:39:28.380And so our point was to try and bring the actual voices of the folks that are hurt by these designations.
00:39:35.380So our case includes the recreation users.
00:39:38.320There is a rancher with a grazing allotment that's part of our case.
00:39:41.020We have a mining claim owner and a Native American private property and holder, all of whom will be devastated by this national monument designation, especially as we're seeing what their proposed plans are for it.
00:39:53.380I have to tell you, I want you to not not you, Ben, because you have other things to do.
00:41:41.480That is exactly the basis of the claims of these ranchers and the mining claim owners.
00:41:46.100This is private property taking to come in here and do this.
00:41:50.120And what they'll say is that we're protecting the valid existing rights.
00:41:53.000But if you're a mining claim owner, the next thing you get in the mail is, by the way, here's a new here's new regulations you have to follow.
00:41:59.020That'll cost you a million dollars to comply with.
00:42:01.600That's a nice little mining claim you've got there.
00:42:04.360And I've worked on cases, Glenn, as a private consultant before doing this job where I've seen private property owners with homes and cabins that the BLM is saying you can no longer access your home because a road washed out.
00:42:17.480And we're not going to do the environmental studies to rebuild it.
00:42:38.140When when you go there, you'll see on our homepage we have a project called the Fight for Every Inch campaign.
00:42:44.620This is our effort to push back against the 30 by 30 initiative and all of these things like the national monuments where our natural resources and our land is just being stolen from us through, in many cases, unaccountable executive action.
00:43:00.440By the way, 30 by 30 is part of the Great Reset and the U.N. agenda, agenda 2030.
00:43:08.800It is a really evil and it's happening everywhere and nobody's paying attention to it.
00:43:35.140We need supporters, anybody who cares about these fighting the administrative state and these unconstitutional land grabs needs to be a member of Blue Ribbon Coalition.
00:43:46.620We are, we're one of the few groups that is in litigation all the time against the environmental groups.
00:43:55.220If people get donated to our legal fund, incredibly helpful.
00:43:59.000That's the only thing holding us back, I think.
00:44:01.020And I think we've got a good team and good connections and a good experience with who we've got working for.
00:44:06.500Where do your, quickly, I'm running out of time.
00:44:09.200Where do your senators stand, Mike Lee and Mitt Romney?
00:44:14.920All the Utah delegation is supportive of the state of Utah's lawsuit against the Biden designations in Utah.
00:44:22.020And there's been a pretty consistent voice among elected leaders in Utah against these national monument designations.
00:44:31.020When, after the Trump move to shrink the boundaries happened, you kind of had some discussions about what did Congress do to make it permanent and things fell apart.
00:44:43.140I was working for Mike Lee at the time.
00:44:45.120I know he was pushing really hard to get Utah exempted from the Antiquities Act like Wyoming and Alaska are.