The Glenn Beck Program - Best of The Program ｜ Guest： Ben Shapiro ｜ 7⧸20⧸21

00:00:00.160 Why is Chris Cuomo still? Every story, Glenn, talking about Donald Trump.

00:00:05.140 Every single story. He must have gone seven or eight stories.

00:00:08.360 All of them Donald Trump. The man is not the President of the United States.

00:00:12.100 His political party has no power in Washington. None. None.

00:00:17.740 And eight straight stories to start your show about Donald Trump and what he did or is doing.

00:00:23.760 This is why I didn't let Stu talk about Chris Cuomo until the very end of the show.

00:00:31.120 Because he's irrelevant. Chris Cuomo is irrelevant.

00:00:36.160 There are like four people watching him.

00:00:39.540 However, on the other side, NPR now is saying that The Blaze, Breitbart, and The Daily Wire, Ben Shapiro, he's evil, you know.

00:00:51.500 Um, we've all gotten together and now we are duping the American public because they don't know we're conservatives.

00:01:01.320 And we're starting to become such an influence that we are dwarfing the things like the New York Times or NBC.

00:01:11.520 We're dwarfing them online.

00:01:13.260 Well, that's got to stop.

00:01:15.640 Ben Shapiro stops by to talk about that and so much more.

00:01:19.660 You don't want to miss a second of today's podcast.

00:01:31.260 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:01:35.240 So how much does the, uh, the shirt that Sarah is wearing cost?

00:01:43.380 She's wearing a Peloton t-shirt.

00:01:45.860 Mm-hmm.

00:01:46.600 Uh, and, uh, I know what Pelotons cost.

00:01:50.740 And they are stupid expensive.

00:01:53.920 Yeah.

00:01:54.320 Stupid expensive.

00:01:54.900 Well, and then they add on the monthly fee, which is, all right, I've just spent multiple thousands of dollars here.

00:02:00.700 Are you really going to charge me $60 a month or whatever it is so I can stream classes?

00:02:07.260 We all know YouTube is free, guys.

00:02:09.940 Like, we all, we, come on.

00:02:12.300 Really?

00:02:12.700 You're going to do that?

00:02:13.480 And, of course, they are.

00:02:14.280 And it works.

00:02:15.540 And they're all millionaires.

00:02:17.020 And soon, they're all going to be building their own rocket ships.

00:02:20.820 We're going to be the only ones without a rocket ship.

00:02:22.740 We're the only one without a rocket ship.

00:02:23.480 Yeah.

00:02:23.700 And it's, it's sad.

00:02:25.360 Which is funny because the story you always tell to new employees about me is don't start building a rocket ship.

00:02:32.040 Right.

00:02:32.560 Glenn will say, you know, maybe we should all, we should all go to the moon.

00:02:37.500 Mm-hmm.

00:02:37.860 And, uh, he'll change his mind.

00:02:39.860 And so don't start.

00:02:40.900 We all have multiple unfinished rocket ships in our backyard.

00:02:44.880 Yes.

00:02:45.240 That's what it always tells people.

00:02:49.200 It's important to know when you need to build the rocket ship.

00:02:52.700 Yeah.

00:02:52.780 Yeah.

00:02:53.460 Soon.

00:02:53.980 I think it's coming.

00:02:55.020 I think it's coming soon.

00:02:56.080 So, uh, so seriously, do you get, do you get a free t-shirt when you buy the $5,000 treadmill or whatever it is?

00:03:04.300 Um, no, you get a hundred classes or a hundred bike rides gets you a free t-shirt.

00:03:09.240 A hundred bike rides get you a free Peloton t-shirt.

00:03:12.660 Now, to be clear, you have to buy the bike and pay the monthly fee and do a hundred classes to get the t-shirt.

00:03:20.200 So not free.

00:03:21.140 Right.

00:03:22.880 Right.

00:03:23.480 It's definitely not free.

00:03:24.300 You know, I could print one that looks exactly like that and sell it to you for 20 bucks.

00:03:29.940 Hmm.

00:03:30.180 Where that t-shirt probably costs you close to six grand.

00:03:35.620 Well, the funny thing is too, it's like a, what, a three or $4,000 bike.

00:03:39.060 It's 60 bucks a month or whatever it is for eternity.

00:03:41.920 And the worst part about getting that t-shirt is doing a hundred classes.

00:03:45.720 To me, like the, the thing I want to do least is actually do the biking.

00:03:50.640 Yeah, I don't really want to be on it.

00:03:51.040 I don't want to be on it.

00:03:52.040 I don't want to cycle.

00:03:53.140 Nope.

00:03:53.720 No.

00:03:54.200 Nope.

00:03:54.500 But that's why we look like we do.

00:03:56.360 My, uh, exactly right.

00:03:57.620 Uh, my wife just got a Pilates machine. 1.00

00:04:01.340 It's coming.

00:04:02.140 What is a Pilates machine?

00:04:03.580 I have no idea.

00:04:04.940 It looks like a medieval torture thing.

00:04:07.620 It does.

00:04:08.480 It's like, and she's like, you're doing Pilates.

00:04:11.180 And I'm like, I'm not doing Pilates.

00:04:13.500 Oh, you should definitely live stream that on Instagram.

00:04:16.080 You should, I'm going to wear, I'm going to, you know, what'll make it, you know, what'll

00:04:19.040 make it stop?

00:04:19.920 My wife saying you got to do Pilates is if I start wearing a leotard and I'm going to.

00:04:24.940 You keep threatening these things.

00:04:27.120 I think you just like wearing leotards.

00:04:29.500 No, I've never worn a leotard.

00:04:30.920 I just know what I would look like in a leotard.

00:04:33.780 It would not be good.

00:04:35.260 No, it would not be good.

00:04:36.700 It wouldn't exactly be a night at the ballet.

00:04:42.240 Agreed.

00:04:42.980 And she would not want it to be publicly posted.

00:04:45.280 So she would allow you to get out of exercise.

00:04:47.480 She would be like, no, no, I can't.

00:04:50.660 No, you can't.

00:04:52.200 Internet's down.

00:04:52.840 Whole world.

00:04:53.500 Yeah.

00:04:53.860 Whole world.

00:04:54.680 Whole world is down.

00:04:56.460 People are trapped in their house.

00:04:57.900 Glenn, it's not good.

00:04:58.920 Don't do that to them.

00:05:00.260 And I'm like, I'm not doing that to them.

00:05:02.360 This is just like the way I like to exercise on my new Pilates machine.

00:05:07.340 What the hell is Pilates?

00:05:10.500 I mean, it's, it's just like yoga.

00:05:12.320 Only it's strengthening and flexibility and, you know, supposed to make you leaner and

00:05:18.280 taller.

00:05:18.560 And it's awesome.

00:05:19.760 Yeah.

00:05:20.320 Being strong and flexible.

00:05:22.040 That just screams Glenn Beck, doesn't it?

00:05:24.100 Yeah, it does.

00:05:25.060 It's like yoga.

00:05:26.040 Yoga.

00:05:26.460 I've done yoga before.

00:05:27.400 You ever done yoga?

00:05:28.480 No.

00:05:28.960 Yeah.

00:05:29.140 I've done yoga before.

00:05:31.140 It's the most intense, like, uh, I don't know.

00:05:36.320 You know, you're like, you know, do the glad fish or whatever and do it for, you know, 20

00:05:44.220 minutes.

00:05:44.580 And it is so strenuous at the same time.

00:05:48.500 It is so relaxing.

00:05:49.420 I fell asleep.

00:05:51.240 It's the only, I was like, I was, I was going for it.

00:05:55.200 And then I, and the yoga instructor said, Mr. Beck, are you sleeping?

00:06:02.660 I'm like, I'm sorry.

00:06:03.880 I'm sorry.

00:06:04.540 This is really good.

00:06:06.160 I mean, it's strenuous, but I'm so relaxed.

00:06:09.280 I'm so relaxed.

00:06:10.640 It's time for a nap.

00:06:11.580 So you should leave now.

00:06:13.400 And they did.

00:06:14.160 And they never came back.

00:06:17.080 Points for me.

00:06:18.780 Points for me.

00:06:20.280 Did you do that in a leotard?

00:06:22.240 No, I didn't do that in a leotard.

00:06:24.280 That's when I could have worn a leotard.

00:06:26.560 You know, now, now I'm only threatening it because, whoa, no one wants to see me in that.

00:06:35.980 So do I look like a Pilates guy?

00:06:38.160 I mean, not look like it, but do I look like it?

00:06:40.220 Because this is the one my wife says, you will really like that.

00:06:42.880 Because I've tried all of it.

00:06:43.740 I hate all of it.

00:06:44.720 Hate.

00:06:45.380 And what, all of it?

00:06:46.180 You mean exercise?

00:06:47.300 I mean walking.

00:06:48.880 I mean to the refrigerator.

00:06:50.860 I hate it all.

00:06:52.480 I hate it all.

00:06:53.960 You've got the WALL-E lifestyle.

00:06:55.820 It's the one you want, right?

00:06:58.100 Like, isn't that the movie?

00:06:58.620 No, actually, I, you know what I really would like, except now you would have to be running

00:07:02.820 because of all of the people that are trying to kill you and stab you.

00:07:06.620 My best exercise was walking in the streets of New York.

00:07:11.040 And remember, I mean, nobody could keep up with me.

00:07:13.320 I'm a fast walker.

00:07:14.460 And I was in shape because I would walk a lot in New York City because I liked it.

00:07:19.880 Because every time you'd see something new.

00:07:22.620 And the good thing, too, there is there's a lot of trying to escape threats because everybody

00:07:28.080 walking on the street wanted to kill you.

00:07:29.620 Yes.

00:07:30.160 So it had, I mean, my adrenaline was going.

00:07:32.940 It was really good.

00:07:33.760 Yeah.

00:07:33.920 It was really good.

00:07:34.660 And I really liked it.

00:07:36.260 But there's no place else like New York City.

00:07:39.860 You know, you walk.

00:07:41.700 It was like, let's go for a walk in the neighborhood.

00:07:44.460 I've seen it.

00:07:46.780 Nothing's changed.

00:07:49.360 Maybe Bob has the station wagon out in front of the house instead of in the garage this time.

00:07:56.560 I mean, I just get bored so fast.

00:07:58.700 Yeah, it's so boring.

00:07:59.780 Like, there's no homeless vomit anywhere in your neighborhood.

00:08:02.560 That's terrible.

00:08:03.160 There's no needles to avoid.

00:08:05.140 I mean, when you're exercising, let's say, in New York or San Francisco, you have to,

00:08:10.760 you're always seeing there's new poop on the street.

00:08:13.340 Yeah.

00:08:13.780 You know, a new needle over here.

00:08:15.560 You know, somebody trying to urinate on you, you know, five yards ahead.

00:08:20.600 I've heard right now New York and San Francisco are great for exercise because you're constantly

00:08:25.260 fleeing violent attacks.

00:08:27.100 Yeah, it's great.

00:08:27.980 And there's no cops around because they've banned them all.

00:08:31.240 So it's really great.

00:08:33.160 It's a great way to get your heart rate up.

00:08:36.420 And I can get the I heart New York t-shirt for lesson you paid for the Peloton.

00:08:42.880 So I like that.

00:08:46.640 Last night I watched the special we were talking about with Bo Burnham.

00:08:52.360 I watched it with my daughter, Hannah, my second oldest.

00:08:57.120 Yeah, if you missed the conversation yesterday, this guy who, a comedian, sort of, who was

00:09:04.120 pretty well known for Netflix specials and stuff, gave up on comedy like five years ago because

00:09:09.380 he had really extreme anxiety, was about to come back and start performing in January 2020.

00:09:15.540 And then as he tells it, the funniest thing happened.

00:09:18.800 And he did an entire comedy special from inside one room of his house over quarantine.

00:09:26.120 I mean, I think he was in L.A.

00:09:27.360 I'm not.

00:09:27.960 I'm not sure.

00:09:28.600 Not sure.

00:09:28.860 But either way, he was locked down, I guess, for basically a whole year.

00:09:32.480 So it took a whole year to do the special.

00:09:34.740 Just him with a camera in one room.

00:09:38.020 It really is an amazing piece of work.

00:09:40.000 I've never seen, I watched this the second time I've watched it, and I've never seen anything

00:09:46.040 like it.

00:09:46.660 And I think, you know, what's so frightening about it, it's very funny.

00:09:53.520 And at the beginning, it's, I'm just warning, it's very offensive in its language.

00:10:01.220 It's a comedy special on Netflix, though.

00:10:03.020 Probably expected for most people.

00:10:04.820 Correct.

00:10:05.020 But it is, and it's kind of light and trivial at the beginning.

00:10:13.640 But it took him a year locked in his house, and the guy is unstable.

00:10:18.820 And it's almost like watching a real Truman show, except he knows he's trapped.

00:10:25.740 You know what I mean?

00:10:27.060 It's the closest thing.

00:10:28.680 I was watching it last night, and I'm like, I've never seen anything like it.

00:10:31.640 And then I thought, it's kind of like the Truman show, where the guy is trapped in this weird

00:10:40.680 situation, this make-believe situation.

00:10:43.700 And we're just watching him really deteriorate.

00:10:48.600 He is mentally fragile, I would say.

00:10:53.380 He's a genius.

00:10:54.000 He's a genius.

00:10:54.660 You are watching a genius.

00:10:57.260 I think this guy is the most gifted and one of the smartest guys I have ever seen in performance.

00:11:06.540 I mean, it is, it's performance art.

00:11:09.260 You've never seen anything like this before.

00:11:11.340 But when it hits intermission about halfway through, he realizes that COVID and the isolation is going to keep going.

00:11:21.280 At the beginning of the video, it's kind of light because he's like, it's, you know, it's going to be over soon.

00:11:25.680 And then six months into it, he's still making the video and he's, he is realizing, are we ever going to leave lockdown?

00:11:36.060 But his, especially in the second half, his discoveries of what's real and what's not are phenomenal.

00:11:48.980 I really, I so want to play some of the stuff on the air because the commentary about where we are, you're watching, you're watching this guy in one of the most real performances you've ever seen.

00:12:04.420 And while he has kind of a breakdown on screen, I don't think that that's the real breakdown.

00:12:10.960 I think that is him reenacting the breakdown, but the breakdown, you know, is real.

00:12:16.900 Um, and, uh, he is coming to the understanding that the internet and, and what, what's going on in the world right now is blowing us apart.

00:12:33.260 And he, he's just so clear while he is losing his mind.

00:12:42.400 And he's so clear on what the problems are.

00:12:47.640 And I doubt we agree on things, um, except the diagnosis of the problem.

00:12:55.820 And, uh, he has one song.

00:12:59.700 I just want to play a little bit of it.

00:13:01.180 He has, this is, this is towards the end and it's, let me play, uh, play the beginning of it.

00:13:08.440 It is, it's really remarkable.

00:13:10.380 Um,

00:13:11.300 So long, goodbye, I'll see you when I see you.

00:13:36.060 You can pick the street, I'll meet you on the other side.

00:13:42.040 I mean, here he's, he's, A, his music is beautiful, but then he's saying goodbye.

00:13:50.300 I'll meet you, I'll meet you outside.

00:13:53.460 I'll meet you on the street, but we're never coming back.

00:13:58.640 We're never coming back together.

00:14:00.160 I'll be on the other side of the street.

00:14:01.680 It's, it is such a brilliant piece of work.

00:14:10.160 And last night when I was watching it, I was overwhelmed with the feeling that it was almost

00:14:16.100 like dropping a pin.

00:14:17.500 You know, when you drop a pin on a map on the timeline, this guy, I mean, in that song,

00:14:26.680 it talks about, you know, you say it's, it's, uh, it's ending, but it's already over and

00:14:34.880 nothing you can do, uh, to change it.

00:14:38.940 And it's, it is such a weird dystopian almost piece, but it's real.

00:14:49.540 And I felt like it was dropping a pin in the timeline.

00:14:52.120 I feel like this special would be, or should be looked at possibly, possibly in the future

00:15:02.060 as the first real sign in mass culture that the collective knew.

00:15:12.580 And, uh, cause I said to my daughter about halfway through, I said, what, what do you think

00:15:16.720 of this?

00:15:18.160 She said, well, it's funny, but it's all true. 0.99

00:15:22.700 And I said, yeah, I know.

00:15:24.960 And it's not like, it's not true because it's Marxist or anti-Marxist or anything like that.

00:15:30.520 It's true in its feeling.

00:15:33.460 This guy is so wide open to feelings.

00:15:37.920 Uh, and he knows he's, he's got the collective zeitgeist nailed unlike anything I've ever seen.

00:15:45.960 His name is Bo Burnham, uh, and it is a, uh, it's a special called inside and you can find

00:15:55.940 it on Netflix.

00:15:56.660 It is just warning.

00:15:58.460 If you are somebody that is offended by language and, uh, it is very edgy, very edgy, uh, for

00:16:06.180 anybody who is not used to the, you know, culture as it is today.

00:16:11.300 Um, but it, it is watch it all the way through.

00:16:15.820 It's absolutely brilliant.

00:16:19.720 And as Bonhoeffer said, not to speak is to speak, not to stand is to stand.

00:16:27.100 God will not hold us blameless.

00:16:28.720 And I've always said that's so true because there's no excuse.

00:16:31.740 We all know.

00:16:32.400 And I think this special points out, we all know, we all know what's coming.

00:16:42.500 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:16:53.880 Mr. Ben Shapiro.

00:16:55.960 Welcome.

00:16:56.980 How are you doing?

00:16:57.420 Well, I found something out and I don't think this is true.

00:17:01.900 You would have said something about it.

00:17:03.360 Uh, but I, I don't want to ambush you here, but, uh, I've heard that you're Jewish.

00:17:13.140 Is that true?

00:17:15.160 Well, I can't believe, you can't believe everything you hear.

00:17:18.840 Look at how he's stumbling around this.

00:17:20.980 I think he's Jewish.

00:17:23.380 Holy cow. 0.89

00:17:25.680 It's out now.

00:17:26.640 I mean, I mean, you, yeah, you might as well live with it.

00:17:29.860 I just thought you always wore.

00:17:31.800 Next, you'll be telling people.

00:17:32.820 Next, you'll be telling people that, that I like control a space laser.

00:17:36.600 Oh my gosh.

00:17:37.540 I don't know.

00:17:38.180 I heard.

00:17:38.880 We don't talk about these things.

00:17:40.160 I, I, I swear to you, you told me that, that little, that little hat you wore was just

00:17:46.260 too small.

00:17:47.060 It was a cap that you had as a kid and it was too small and I believed it.

00:17:52.080 That's okay.

00:17:54.200 Well, Ben, we'll get it.

00:17:55.320 I tried to keep it.

00:17:55.920 I tried to keep it going as long as I could go in.

00:17:58.340 Gosh, you know what, Ben?

00:17:59.820 It is what's going on now is, is, is insane as what I just said to you.

00:18:06.020 It's just insane what the mainstream media is, is now trying to portray there.

00:18:13.160 Now there was a great article.

00:18:14.660 Congratulations on the article from NPR, a great article where they have, they have deemed

00:18:21.800 that you are a great danger now because of what you are building over the daily wire.

00:18:28.580 Uh, and they point to you and to us and to Breitbart, uh, and they say that you are affecting millions

00:18:38.600 of people and they don't know that you're a conservative.

00:18:43.360 They have no idea that the daily wire is really a conservative, uh, outlet.

00:18:50.780 How can they possibly say something like it's marked at the bottom of every single page of

00:18:57.700 every article?

00:18:59.480 How can they possibly say that?

00:19:01.400 It's insanity.

00:19:02.480 I mean, it is crazy, but it's perfectly predictable because right now when you watch Joe Biden

00:19:07.880 and the New York times and the entire media and democratic infrastructure combined to basically

00:19:13.580 say that social media is the problem and needs to be reined in and the social media needs to

00:19:18.700 quote unquote cut out misinformation and by misinformation, they don't actually mean things

00:19:22.480 that are wrong.

00:19:23.040 They just mean stuff they don't like.

00:19:24.400 Yes.

00:19:24.780 It's not anything of a surprise.

00:19:26.140 They've been doing this since 2016.

00:19:27.580 So before 2016, I know everybody has a short memory before 2016, everybody in the media

00:19:31.780 loved Facebook, right?

00:19:32.880 Because Facebook was the place where Barack Obama won the 2012 election.

00:19:35.860 Facebook was, he had, he had figured out these brilliant strategies.

00:19:39.080 Then Trump wins in 2016 and they've got to find some rationale for why Hillary Clinton,

00:19:44.040 the worst candidate in American history lost.

00:19:45.940 And it can't be that she's the worst candidate because that would mean she

00:19:48.620 was the worst candidate.

00:19:49.460 It's got to be something else.

00:19:50.900 And so what they come up with is it's Facebook.

00:19:53.100 Facebook allowed Russian dissemination of disinformation.

00:19:56.820 Facebook allowed dissemination of disinformation via the Trump campaign and all this.

00:20:00.980 Now, there was a subtle shift that happened here where the critique went from Russian

00:20:05.340 disinformation, which would be, you know, that actually has a definition.

00:20:08.300 That would be active foreign intervention in an American election via false propaganda

00:20:12.420 to misinformation, right?

00:20:14.220 They shifted from disinformation, which could be targeted to misinformation, which now

00:20:18.600 includes anything they don't like.

00:20:21.020 So they will just scrub the Hunter Biden article because that is quote unquote misinformation,

00:20:25.140 even though it's true.

00:20:26.100 And in this NPR article, they ripped daily wire, not because we report things that aren't

00:20:30.520 true.

00:20:30.820 They admit in the article that we don't report things that aren't true.

00:20:33.600 They, they quote a quote, some sort of quote unquote expert professor at an Ivy League

00:20:37.980 university saying that any true fact, quote unquote, stripped of context can become misinformation.

00:20:43.500 We have to say that if you're conservative and you give context for information in a way that

00:20:48.480 leftists don't like, this now constitutes misinformation.

00:20:52.220 And that's what this entire campaign is about.

00:20:54.180 There's this extraordinarily perverse thing that has happened with regard to how we consume

00:20:58.480 information in the United States.

00:21:00.000 It used to be that you would bookmark a place like daily wire or the blaze and you'd go

00:21:03.540 directly there.

00:21:04.100 And then because social media is so convenient, people get daily wire or the blaze or Breitbart

00:21:10.020 from their newsfeed on Facebook and the left noticed that all of the dissemination of

00:21:14.620 information was now centralized in one place.

00:21:16.660 And then they said, okay, well, what if we just now bottleneck that?

00:21:19.220 What if we just strangle the, in the crib, all of these conservative organizations by telling

00:21:24.120 the disseminator of information to just cut off the faucet?

00:21:28.000 And that's what NPR is doing right now.

00:21:29.400 They're trying to reestablish an establishment media monopoly with the help of the democratic party.

00:21:34.540 And apparently your taxpayer dollars is NPR.

00:21:36.420 They're trying to do all of that by basically pressuring Facebook into preventing anything

00:21:40.920 they don't like from every single way today.

00:21:42.600 It would be bad if it was coming from the New York Times, but it's coming from NPR.

00:21:46.860 That is an arm of the U.S. government.

00:21:50.400 I mean, that is paid for by the U.S. government.

00:21:53.700 Our tax dollars go to pay for NPR.

00:21:56.760 And it is probably the closest we have to an actual state media outlet.

00:22:04.000 And with everything that the White House has been saying about, you know, we're flagging

00:22:10.340 and, you know, we're hoping that Facebook is going to stop these people who are killing

00:22:16.140 people with their misinformation.

00:22:18.320 They have said this about almost everything.

00:22:24.380 The latest is just COVID.

00:22:27.040 You know, everything that the right or that liberty lovers or constitutionalists have been

00:22:32.500 talking about every time since 2008, they have been saying that that's going to get somebody

00:22:39.160 killed.

00:22:39.500 We're just fomenting a revolution or whatever.

00:22:43.220 This is the the the open door to the end of the First Amendment.

00:22:50.800 And I don't see anybody in outside of conservative circles really talking about this and taking

00:23:00.220 this seriously.

00:23:01.020 This is really dangerous.

00:23:03.720 Oh, it's super dangerous.

00:23:04.760 And if it were Trump doing it, you know that this would be an assault on the press.

00:23:07.760 Trump said a mean thing about someone from the press.

00:23:09.980 And it was like, wow, the First Amendment under attack.

00:23:12.240 Now you have the White House deliberately saying that social media should shut down things

00:23:15.480 the White House doesn't like.

00:23:16.560 And the entire press is sucking its thumb in the corner or cheering it on.

00:23:19.900 I mean, there's an article from Kara Swisher, who's just terrible in The New York Times.

00:23:23.240 And she's been basically every article she writes about why Facebook should do what

00:23:26.440 she wants Facebook to do.

00:23:27.360 And she had an article about Biden's comments the other day where he said that Facebook

00:23:31.420 was killing people, which, again, is absurd.

00:23:34.040 First of all, it assumes that human beings don't have agency and can't actually do risk

00:23:37.780 assessment for themselves and take a look at the facts themselves.

00:23:40.460 Number two, it assumes that Facebook is purposefully disseminating false information about

00:23:45.300 COVID, which is just a lie.

00:23:46.280 It assumes that they are, in fact, a publisher, not a platform, which is kind of hilarious since

00:23:50.360 the entire leftist support for Facebook is rooted in Section 230, which suggests they're

00:23:54.520 a platform, not a publisher.

00:23:56.480 So she writes in this piece, backing Joe Biden, saying that Facebook is killing people, quote,

00:24:01.140 attempting to stop falsehoods by claiming to offer good information is like using a single

00:24:05.040 sandbag to hold back an impossibly fetid ocean.

00:24:07.720 It's like that when it comes to a range of once anodyne now divisive issues, from election

00:24:12.540 integrity to critical race theory to whatever, keeping this country in a constant state of

00:24:17.100 twitchy confusion.

00:24:18.240 So now she's giving away the ballgame there, right?

00:24:21.360 The idea here is not that the Democrats care about cutting down on quote unquote COVID misinformation.

00:24:25.620 If they wanted to cut down on COVID misinformation, perhaps they should stop Dr. Fauci from talking.

00:24:29.960 He's now reversed himself on every major position he ever held, from masking to the efficacy

00:24:34.320 of vaccines without masks to school reopening.

00:24:36.920 But put that aside.

00:24:38.760 She's now broadened it out from COVID to everything.

00:24:41.700 She literally says everything, right?

00:24:43.040 That Facebook should police all the things because otherwise people could tell lies about things like critical race theory.

00:24:49.040 And by lies, she means the truth because she's a believer in critical race theory, right?

00:24:52.140 As most of the members of the left wing New York Times editorial board are.

00:24:54.800 So this is it is the great danger to the country that the informational distribution mechanisms are now being leveraged into top down control by Democrats.

00:25:05.040 Listen, I don't think that the heads of Facebook, particularly Zuckerberg, have a congenital interest in doing this.

00:25:10.780 But I also don't know that they have the stones to actually stand up to this effort for long periods of time, which is why I've called on people who listen to my show and people who read Daily Wire to subscribe to Daily Wire and subscribe to the blaze and subscribe to Fox Nation or anywhere else.

00:25:26.160 They get their conservative news because pretty soon it's going to be the model for for informational distribution is going to be completely revised by an authoritarian left.

00:25:37.020 So the arrogance is usually where people they just they they overplay their hand.

00:25:42.940 The left overplays their hand all the time.

00:25:45.580 But I feel like they've overplayed their hand for 10 years now and it doesn't seem to be an overplaying.

00:25:53.500 How how do you see this changing at all, Ben?

00:25:59.620 Are we where are we on this?

00:26:03.120 Timeline of of losing freedom.

00:26:06.660 So I think that I really believe the future of the country and the only possibility that we stay together as a country is going to not be because of anything we the conservatives do or even anything the radical left does.

00:26:17.860 It's going to be the people in the middle.

00:26:18.760 Do the people in the middle decide that they are going to stand up to the stuff or do they just go with whoever is the loudest voice and just appease that that loud voice?

00:26:27.680 And that includes people who are sort of the moderate liberals.

00:26:30.820 You remember there's that Harper's Weekly letter last year where 150 liberals wrote this piece about how cancel culture was bad.

00:26:36.800 They had their obligatory kind of slap to Trump.

00:26:38.640 But then they did the cancel culture is bad routine.

00:26:41.760 And the question for them is, are you just trying to keep the Overton window open for yourself or are you willing to expand that to people who don't actually agree with you?

00:26:49.060 Because if it's only the former, the country is not going to survive.

00:26:51.780 If you say, listen, we, the liberal side, we may agree with leftists on a lot of their utopian goals, but we are not willing to shut down conversation, destroy individual rights, shut down the First Amendment in order to achieve those goals.

00:27:04.640 So maybe we'll get to utopia later, but at least we won't have destroyed the country.

00:27:08.420 If they do that, the country can survive.

00:27:10.060 If they decide to move along with the left because the left has some of the same political priorities, then we will fall apart as a country because there is no way that the right is just going to sit still for this.

00:27:18.500 And with everything that is going on, I mean, we're really disturbed, Ben.

00:27:23.640 What is your research show on what's happening with justice and the FBI, especially on this January 6th thing?

00:27:31.660 I mean, FBI looks like it's possibly involved in it.

00:27:36.780 You know, they were now involved with the Whitmer thing and that's kind of going awry. 0.80

00:27:43.100 I mean, we're in a really dangerous place.

00:27:46.800 What are you feeling or hearing about what's happening legally with just January 6th?

00:27:55.360 Well, obviously, the sort of resources that the government is devoting to prosecuting everybody from January 6th,

00:28:01.440 while I'm perfectly fine with people who violate the law and going to jail,

00:28:04.940 there is obviously a wide disparity between the resources devoted by the federal government to prosecuting people on January 6th

00:28:12.020 and the complete willingness of pretty much everybody to just shrug and, in fact, cheer rioters last year doing $5 billion in damage,

00:28:19.820 $2 billion in insured damage to major cities around the country.

00:28:22.960 I mean, that disparity is pretty obvious and wide.

00:28:25.660 As far as sort of the January 6th of it all, I'll be honest with you,

00:28:30.740 I haven't particularly followed the sort of theorizing about the FBI and its involvement with January 6th

00:28:36.900 because, frankly, it seems like there's pretty good evidence a lot of these people wanted to go in and do something stupid, petty, foolish, and criminal.

00:28:43.040 But the bigger problem with January 6th is, to me, not the quote-unquote FBI involvement.

00:28:47.760 I think we already know that there are problems with the FBI from the entire Mueller investigation.

00:28:50.800 The big problem to me with January 6th is the attempt by the left to use January 6th as the tool to silence everybody, right?

00:28:58.560 If you voted for Trump, you were in favor of January 6th, which means you're dangerous,

00:29:02.100 which means that really we should be taking a second look at you.

00:29:05.240 January 6th was such a breach of democracy that you must continue to give us unalloyed power at the federal level

00:29:11.160 in order to stop things like January 6th from happening ever again.

00:29:15.180 And the continual focus by the Democrats on January 6th, the blowing of it out of all proportion,

00:29:21.880 treating it as though it was the single worst thing to happen in modern American history,

00:29:25.860 when in reality, if security does its job, January 6th never happens in the way that it happens, right?

00:29:30.720 The big failure there is what the Senate Intelligence Committee said it was,

00:29:33.340 which was a complete failure of all of the apparatuses of law enforcement to stop people from invading the Capitol in the first place.

00:29:39.020 In reality, it was several hundred people who broke into a building.

00:29:42.080 Yes, many of them intend on doing grave harm, and they should go to jail for that.

00:29:45.180 But the notion that it was like an insurrection about to overthrow the American government

00:29:48.700 and doesn't give us unalloyed power is insane.

00:29:51.440 I mean, it was not about to overthrow the American government.

00:29:53.860 The place was cleared within two hours.

00:29:55.580 The Congress, led, by the way, by Mike Pence, the Trump's vice president,

00:29:58.940 and Mitch McConnell in the Senate, led the certification of the election.

00:30:02.220 So, like, at what point was American democracy truly in danger?

00:30:05.240 That's why when you hear these stories about top generals at the Pentagon saying things like,

00:30:13.280 well, you know, the Reichstag fire, and this is all Hitler, I think, read a book.

00:30:17.740 And for goodness sake, read a book.

00:30:19.060 Or you're just being dishonest.

00:30:20.240 Ben Shapiro, who I have tremendous respect for.

00:30:24.680 You know, I met a kid.

00:30:26.640 He was probably, gosh, 12 or 13, I think.

00:30:30.840 I met him backstage at CPAC.

00:30:33.360 And I looked at him, and I was talking to him, and I said to him, you remind me of Ben Shapiro.

00:30:42.240 When he was your age, you know, you were, when did you go to college?

00:30:49.080 Like, 15?

00:30:50.680 I was 16, but if you said that to that kid, yeah, I was 16.

00:30:53.000 That kid had some real hard teenage years ahead of him.

00:30:54.900 Oh, yeah, yeah, he does.

00:30:56.620 He does.

00:30:57.280 But you've been a great, great force.

00:30:59.920 We have about a minute here, Ben, two minutes.

00:31:03.220 Tell me the thing that you're most concerned about and the thing that we can actually make an impact on.

00:31:14.260 So right now, the thing that I'm most concerned about is the wokeification of corporations.

00:31:19.420 The use of business to cram down particular viewpoints on the rest of the American public inside your business place,

00:31:26.040 threatening you with firing if you don't post the proper black square or the proper gay pride. 0.95

00:31:30.260 Message.

00:31:30.880 Like, that kind of stuff.

00:31:32.000 If that continues, then we are going to completely bifurcate as a country.

00:31:35.080 And it is an area where we can successfully push back in the same way that a lot of people have pushed back in the educational sphere.

00:31:40.000 All it really requires is for you to politically unionize with some of your friends,

00:31:43.500 because it really is like a very core group of radical leftists who renormalize these institutions

00:31:47.760 by taking advantage of people not wanting to cause controversy or have HR issues.

00:31:52.160 And so if you can be loud and proud on the other side and outnumber those folks,

00:31:55.180 then you really can get your institution to just go back to kind of weapons down,

00:31:59.260 no politics in the workplace, which would be, I think, the best available outcome there.

00:32:02.560 Any doubt in your mind that the giant corporations are using the Great Reset or headed that way,

00:32:12.000 and they're using the Marxists as fuel, that they'll eat the Marxists when all is said and done?

00:32:19.940 You know, I think that they think they'll eat the Marxists, but we'll find out.

00:32:22.880 I mean, it'll be a pitch battle.

00:32:24.720 I mean, a lot of the corporations thought, you know, that in the early days of the Russian Revolution

00:32:30.280 that things would end up well for them.

00:32:31.740 They didn't.

00:32:32.120 A lot of the corporations thought in the early days of the Nazis that things would end up great for them, not so much.

00:32:36.760 So it turns out that when you get in bed with the government and with people who love government,

00:32:40.760 you shouldn't be surprised when you get screwed.

00:32:42.660 So I think a lot of these people think they're in control, but they are not, I think.

00:32:46.520 Ben Shapiro, great work at The Daily Wire.

00:32:49.940 Give Jeremy and everybody my best.

00:32:52.720 Thank you for all of the years of service that you've done and what you're working on now

00:32:57.120 to keep us and the rest of the world free.

00:33:00.120 Thanks, Ben. Appreciate it.

00:33:02.120 Make sure you subscribe to Daily Wire, thedailywire.com.

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00:34:08.000 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:34:23.280 I want to talk to you a little bit about misinformation and the problems that we have here in America.

00:34:29.600 And it's really not complex.

00:34:33.720 It's really not.

00:34:34.500 Why are we having these problems?

00:34:38.540 Why are we seeing things like the numbers of people who don't believe that we walked on the moon suddenly double?

00:34:47.260 Why is that happening?

00:34:49.080 Why is it that people don't believe in institutions?

00:34:53.620 Is it propaganda?

00:34:55.540 Has it been misinformation?

00:34:57.820 Is it coming from the right?

00:34:58.860 Is it coming from the left?

00:34:59.940 Is it intentional or is it an accident?

00:35:05.120 Well, we've been heading down this road for a long time because people didn't know.

00:35:11.900 People didn't know who to trust, but there wasn't a way to actually go and get information elsewhere.

00:35:19.040 The Internet has changed absolutely everything.

00:35:23.140 And so now we can get different information.

00:35:26.560 We can get real information and we can get bogus information.

00:35:30.560 And when when the officials are not in line with the American people, and that doesn't mean that we don't agree or we we don't ever disagree.

00:35:44.260 What it means is when people hear a an excuse, for instance, you're going to the store and you're paying 11 percent more for milk than you were just a couple of months ago.

00:35:55.600 And then you hear the president say there is no inflation.

00:36:00.360 You know, that's not true.

00:36:02.060 When somebody says to you a gives a reason or excuse and it just doesn't feel right, it's like, that's not true.

00:36:16.460 You're more susceptible to going out and hearing something that might be an absolute lie.

00:36:24.340 But it fits the scenario.

00:36:27.520 And so you lose the trust of all of the institutions because you figure out they they're lying to you now and they've been probably lying to you for a long time, which opens up all of the doors of now.

00:36:40.340 I don't believe we went to the moon.

00:36:42.140 All the crazy stuff.

00:36:44.420 There's a good number of people now all over the world that believe that chips are inside of the vaccine.

00:36:51.060 Absolutely not true.

00:36:52.260 However, with all of the other actions that have been done by the elites in our world.

00:37:03.240 It's gaining credibility because you don't know if you can trust them.

00:37:09.820 I would never think that the FBI had infiltrated groups and had been setting them up for a political agenda.

00:37:21.500 For instance, the Whitmer kidnapping.

00:37:25.700 It appears as though that wasn't something that they stopped.

00:37:31.600 It was something that they fomented and stopped.

00:37:34.120 Now, I don't know if that's true.

00:37:37.480 I don't know how much of it is true because who do you trust to give you that news?

00:37:43.400 You trust the FBI?

00:37:46.600 Never in my life did I not think that I would trust the FBI.

00:37:51.360 I don't trust the FBI now.

00:37:53.920 Why?

00:37:55.760 Well, because it doesn't seem like they ever get punished for the things that they're doing.

00:38:00.960 For instance, lying to a FISA court.

00:38:05.460 This is one of the worst things that you can possibly do.

00:38:10.260 One guy changes a report.

00:38:14.420 Actually, physically changes the situation on what they're presenting to the court and saying,

00:38:21.540 this is why you should give us access to everything because he is not part of us.

00:38:29.980 He's never worked for us.

00:38:31.420 He's never done any of these things.

00:38:33.260 When the exact opposite was true and the FBI went in and changed the documents to fit their narrative.

00:38:42.660 Once you do that on something that you're going after a president of the United States,

00:38:49.420 I have a hard time believing you wouldn't do that to me.

00:38:52.440 I mean, if they did it and got away with it with somebody like the president of the United States,

00:38:58.380 do you think they give a flying crap about you?

00:39:03.580 Now, that doesn't mean that the FBI is bad.

00:39:05.960 I believe that the vast majority of the FBI agents are good.

00:39:14.100 But what's happening at the upper end is what's trouble.

00:39:18.940 Do you believe, let me play, let me play, let me play cut one here.

00:39:24.680 This is Psaki clarifying that Facebook, the post, the tagging and what they're really doing.

00:39:31.460 I want you to listen to this.

00:39:32.480 First of all, we've not asked Facebook to block any individual posts.

00:39:37.420 The way this works is that there are trending, there are trends that are out there on social media platforms.

00:39:43.980 You're aware of them.

00:39:45.620 We're aware of them.

00:39:46.840 Anyone in the public can be aware of them.

00:39:48.700 There's also data that we look at that many media platforms, like many of you, also look at data in terms of trends.

00:39:57.140 So what are they saying here?

00:39:59.300 They're saying that they're not interfering with Facebook.

00:40:02.240 They are just saying, Facebook, you should take action against anybody who is providing you with misinformation.

00:40:13.640 And that's it.

00:40:16.240 Do you believe that?

00:40:18.600 I don't, but I have nothing to back it up.

00:40:21.400 But I don't believe that.

00:40:22.860 And if you think that makes me a radical, let me reverse the scenario.

00:40:29.180 If Donald Trump said exactly the same thing, do you think the other side would believe it?

00:40:36.240 See, the problem is we're losing faith in our institutions, but then everything has become politicized that.

00:40:46.000 The exact same thing can be done by one president and half the country thinks it's OK and the other half thinks they should go to jail for it.

00:40:58.640 And then the D is switched to an R or vice versa.

00:41:04.160 And all of a sudden, the entire population switches because we're not talking about principles anymore.

00:41:11.740 All we're talking about is politics.

00:41:15.920 We've lost the trust in anything but a political letter, R or D.

00:41:25.320 That is extraordinarily dangerous.

00:41:28.720 And how is this happening?

00:41:30.540 You know, all I heard about for the last six years is what a liar Donald Trump is.

00:41:38.940 OK.

00:41:40.080 All right.

00:41:40.740 Let's accept that that's true.

00:41:43.240 Just accept that all of that is true.

00:41:47.800 Well, let me give you some examples of the other side and Joe Biden.

00:41:55.680 Why are we having so much?

00:41:57.260 Why are we having problems right now with thinking that Nazis are coming to get us?

00:42:05.580 Well, the misinformation about neo-Nazis.

00:42:09.520 Biden launched his presidential campaign in April 2019 by claiming that President Donald Trump had referred to the neo-Nazis and white supremacists in Charlottesville, Virginia, as very fine people.

00:42:22.900 We know that's not true.

00:42:25.360 We know it's not true.

00:42:27.760 We have the audio tape of what he said.

00:42:31.740 He was not saying the neo-Nazis and the white supremacists.

00:42:35.280 In fact, he said those were bad people.

00:42:38.380 But there were also other very fine people who felt things were being changed and they were standing and going for that reason.

00:42:47.060 And you can't put all of them into the same bucket misinformation.

00:42:53.860 Did the media further that?

00:42:57.040 Did social media further that?

00:43:00.080 Or did they flag it and say this isn't true?

00:43:03.180 The only way anyone will have credibility is when they say this was a lie, this wasn't true and call out their own side.

00:43:16.640 It's why we do it.

00:43:17.920 And we get a lot of heat from people who are just, and I understand it.

00:43:23.380 I really do understand it.

00:43:26.160 We are in a situation where it's literally becoming life and death.

00:43:31.160 It's literally freedom or slavery.

00:43:33.660 And so you don't want anything to hurt your side.

00:43:39.120 But we cannot be on the side of anything but truth.

00:43:45.200 Only those who have some credibility will be able to lead in the future.

00:43:51.900 And those people who have credibility are the ones who will just tell you the truth and say, you know what?

00:43:57.420 That's just the way it is.

00:43:58.640 I'm sorry.

00:43:59.340 I know that doesn't make people happy.

00:44:00.780 But we were wrong about this.

00:44:03.720 But they didn't do that.

00:44:06.460 The misinformation about the coronavirus vaccine.

00:44:10.100 Can we please play, let's see, is it cut one?

00:44:13.860 I think it's cut one on Biden and Kamala Harris talking about the vaccine prior to the election.

00:44:24.480 So let's just say there's a vaccine that is approved and even distributed before the election.

00:44:29.860 Would you get it?

00:44:31.440 Well, I think that's going to be an issue for all of us.

00:44:34.720 If and when the vaccine comes.

00:44:36.740 It's not likely to go through all the tests and the trials that are needed to be done.

00:44:41.120 When we finally do, God willing, get a vaccine, who's going to take the shot?

00:44:46.460 Who's going to take the shot?

00:44:48.120 You're going to be the first one to say, put me, sign me up.

00:44:51.180 They now say it's okay.

00:44:52.400 And the question of whether it's real when it's there, that requires enormous transparency.

00:44:57.220 You got to make all of it available to other experts across the nation so they can look

00:45:02.500 and see.

00:45:03.620 So there's consensus.

00:45:04.720 This is a safe vaccine.

00:45:06.220 If the president announced tomorrow we have a vaccine, would you take it?

00:45:09.420 Only if it was completely transparent that other experts in the country could look at it.

00:45:15.240 Only if we knew all of what went into it.

00:45:18.400 If Donald Trump can't give answers and the administration can't give answers to these three

00:45:22.360 questions, the American people should not have confidence.

00:45:25.660 But if Donald Trump tells us that we should take it, I'm not taking it.

00:45:29.980 Okay.

00:45:30.440 Who is the anti-vaxxer here?

00:45:31.980 That's incredible.

00:45:32.720 That's an incredible montage.

00:45:34.160 That is, that's unbelievable.

00:45:36.660 I asked the staff to, we could have more.

00:45:38.520 I asked the staff yesterday, can you just put together the montage of, of these guys saying,

00:45:46.320 I'm not going to take the vaccine and calling into question.

00:45:49.320 Now, why did they do that?

00:45:51.340 They only did that to play on people's fears and hype it up that you can't trust it.

00:45:58.720 Now, there may be reasons you can't trust the vaccine.

00:46:03.720 It is, it's completely new, completely new way of making vaccines.

00:46:11.100 It was rushed, but it seems to be safe.

00:46:16.480 I mean, it's the biggest trial in human history and we are just trying it on people, but we

00:46:22.180 were in a situation where we needed the vaccine and it seems to be working.

00:46:27.480 It seems to be good.

00:46:28.700 Now, they are coming after people who have these questions when they're not being transparent.

00:46:38.560 They are not saying to people, just look at it, just look at it and you decide and let's

00:46:43.980 have a debate.

00:46:44.720 There is no debate.

00:46:46.880 There is no debate.

00:46:49.140 They're telling us, now think of how evil this is.

00:46:53.180 They're telling the American people that is the misinformation from the right and people

00:47:02.500 like me who say, if you want to take the vaccine, take the vaccine.

00:47:06.620 I think it's probably okay.

00:47:09.320 I don't know and nobody will know for 10 years, but I don't think there's any chips in it or

00:47:14.840 anything else.

00:47:16.320 So take it, especially if you're vulnerable.

00:47:19.220 They say that that is dangerous misinformation and it's coming from the political right.

00:47:28.560 Well, when you find out that the people who are not getting vaccinated are African-Americans 0.99

00:47:36.520 and Hispanics, that's where the lion's share is. 0.99

00:47:41.760 When you hear that, are they, are Hispanics and African-Americans, are they suddenly listening 1.00

00:47:48.960 to the Daily Wire and Glenn Beck, Ben Shapiro?

00:47:53.880 I don't think so.

00:47:56.040 I don't think so.

00:47:57.720 You, of course, New York Times, they would say that we're all white people and we're all

00:48:01.620 conservatives.

00:48:02.400 So how is that?

00:48:06.140 Because it's not about the vaccine.

00:48:09.000 It's not about saving lives.

00:48:11.760 It's about politics.

00:48:14.980 Misinformation.

00:48:16.060 So the White House says they have to stop misinformation and they're starting with the

00:48:20.760 coronavirus and they are partnering their own documentation says they are partnering with

00:48:28.060 social media to stop misinformation.

00:48:32.120 Okay, so what happens?

00:48:33.820 The misinformation about police officers.

00:48:36.120 What happens about all the misinformation about what was happening with Antifa and the riots

00:48:43.440 as they were attacking a federal courthouse in Portland and calling for the end of the

00:48:50.720 United States of America?

00:48:54.480 Biden said that the feds were brutally attacking peaceful protesters.

00:48:59.700 Why don't we have, why don't we trust the media?

00:49:05.680 Why don't we, why don't we trust and just line up and do whatever we're told to do?

00:49:11.120 Because there are too many lies and almost everything that is happening in our world today is happening

00:49:20.380 because the government has violated the bill of rights and they have lied and caused these problems.

00:49:29.580 How about the misinformation about trying China's threat to the U.S.

00:49:34.320 Biden says they're not a threat during the campaign.

00:49:37.340 They're not a threat there.

00:49:39.780 They're, you know, Trump banning was hysterical xenophobia when you couldn't go to, when you couldn't go to China.

00:49:48.100 How does he have any credibility on China now?

00:49:51.260 The misinformation on the military debts, the misinformation about the economic reopenings,

00:49:56.940 the misinformation about Trump and Lafayette Square, the Hunter Biden laptop.

00:50:02.520 That wasn't misinformation.

00:50:04.820 These are out and out lies that were happening.

00:50:09.160 And is anyone talking about banning those things?

00:50:13.060 No, no, no, no.

The Glenn Beck Program - July 20, 2021

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