The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program ｜ Guest： Bill Cloud ｜ 4⧸17⧸24

00:00:00.100 So today on the podcast, we talked about several things, including, I think, one of the best sports segments of all time.

00:00:09.820 Glenn Beck Talk Sports!

00:00:11.740 You were on fire, actually, on that segment. That was actually really good.

00:00:15.700 Because it wasn't about sports. It's all about common sense.

00:00:18.540 It's all about common sense. So we'll talk about sports.

00:00:22.240 I'd like to tell you who the stories are about, but I don't remember his name or her name.

00:00:27.220 And one's a basketball player, one's a baseball player.

00:00:30.820 Baseball player. So, yeah, I guess they're both in the news now.

00:00:34.780 But also, we're going to talk about something else that's in the news that nobody's talking about.

00:00:39.200 And that is the promise to sacrifice a red heifer, the 10th red heifer, in Israel in the next few days.

00:00:49.080 Whether it happens or not, we don't know.

00:00:51.580 We've seen the altar that has been built.

00:00:55.660 But whether this is true or not, they say the sacrifice of the 10th red heifer is the one that begins the Messianic era.

00:01:05.280 Whether that happens or not, it doesn't really matter.

00:01:09.680 Because if it does happen, if they do sacrifice this red heifer, the Middle East will melt down. 0.99

00:01:17.040 We have that and so much more on today's program.

00:01:19.720 You're listening to The Best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:01:30.840 So, I don't know if you saw this.

00:01:32.180 Do you remember the guy who, Uri Berliner, who came out and wrote that article about NPR?

00:01:40.480 It's a fascinating story.

00:01:41.560 Yes, I do remember this.

00:01:42.420 Fascinating, right?

00:01:43.100 With a free press.

00:01:44.300 Barry Weiss' free press.

00:01:45.400 Yeah, and he came out and he said, you know, we have lost our journalistic integrity at NPR.

00:01:51.000 And he still works there.

00:01:52.680 Well, he worked there.

00:01:56.800 Incredible.

00:01:58.040 Unbelievable.

00:01:58.740 He's a senior business editor at NPR.

00:02:01.940 He said that the liberal bias had tainted its coverage of important stories that we've always leaned liberal.

00:02:07.940 He said, but we've lost our way on journalistic integrity.

00:02:11.220 So, NPR has suspended him.

00:02:15.100 Incredible.

00:02:15.820 Yeah.

00:02:16.880 It's funny.

00:02:17.760 With all this talk of tolerance, they couldn't tolerate one single person who said they were too liberal.

00:02:25.220 Well, he didn't ask permission to say bad things.

00:02:27.760 That's fine.

00:02:29.020 Especially from NPR.

00:02:30.300 You know, there's that whole ombudsman tradition, right?

00:02:33.400 Yes, yes, yes.

00:02:33.560 Where, like, you're supposed to be able to take this criticism.

00:02:37.140 Yes.

00:02:37.300 Like, even though most businesses, like, if I was working at McDonald's or, you know, I'm working at Burger King, I wouldn't want my employees being out there saying negative things about my hamburgers.

00:02:46.880 But, like, there's a tradition in journalism that you're supposed to have the freedom of speech, freedom of the press, these things combining together into one to give employees who really see a problem an okay to speak out.

00:03:03.080 Well, this is the only press thing that you could say, freedom of the press, because they were fired from the inside.

00:03:10.280 But these are government employees.

00:03:12.460 This is all funded by the United States government and people like you.

00:03:17.680 Not like me.

00:03:18.640 I don't like those people.

00:03:19.500 I've never given them a dime.

00:03:20.120 Yeah, I don't really want to even talk to those people.

00:03:22.860 I don't know who those people are.

00:03:24.180 The Herb and Emily Schmiminitz Foundation?

00:03:27.180 You don't like them?

00:03:28.420 Really?

00:03:28.880 Yes, it's usually...

00:03:29.960 No, Herb is really not a good guy.

00:03:32.060 You don't like Herb?

00:03:33.080 No, I don't.

00:03:33.900 I don't.

00:03:34.200 It's not Herb, by the way.

00:03:35.240 It's Herb.

00:03:35.700 Herb.

00:03:36.160 Herb and Emily Schmiminitz Foundation.

00:03:38.420 The Schmiminitz themselves are good, but I digress. 0.86

00:03:40.920 So, anyway, he came out and it was published and the new chief executive, Kathleen Marr, came under new scrutiny because, you know, she's been an activist for a long time.

00:03:55.840 So, people start going through her stuff.

00:03:58.060 Series of year-old social media posts criticizing President Donald J. Trump and embracing progressive causes.

00:04:04.800 Okay.

00:04:05.840 NPR said that's unfair.

00:04:09.300 Unfair.

00:04:10.060 Oh, my gosh.

00:04:13.020 That was unfair because her social media posts were written long before she was named chief executive at NPR and that she wasn't working in the news industry at the time.

00:04:23.620 NPR said also that while she managed the business side of a nonprofit, she was not involved in its editorial process.

00:04:30.300 And she said in a statement in America, everyone's entitled to free speech as a private citizen.

00:04:35.780 And you're absolutely right.

00:04:37.700 You're absolutely right.

00:04:39.560 But doesn't that go?

00:04:41.100 If they hired this person with outrageous tweets showing her unbelievable progressive bent and hatred for Donald Trump. 0.99

00:04:49.820 To a comical level, by the way.

00:04:51.980 What do you?

00:04:52.520 The tweets are legitimately like parodies of liberals.

00:04:56.760 Like, they're so over the top.

00:04:58.940 At one point, she says, you know, I love Hillary Clinton, but I really wish she would stop using the terms boy and girl because they are very, I can't remember, you know, basically like sexist, masochist.

00:05:12.340 Yeah, but yeah, like making people who don't fit into one of those neat categories that make them feel bad.

00:05:19.200 And it's like exclusionary, it might have been the word she used.

00:05:21.520 It was something like that.

00:05:22.300 And it's like, that is like, you would say like, if Saturday Night Live was funny, that would be the joke they would make.

00:05:29.840 Correct.

00:05:30.080 Right?

00:05:30.360 Like, don't call girls and boys.

00:05:32.160 You can't use those terms.

00:05:33.440 She was the one using them.

00:05:34.520 She was this.

00:05:35.040 And this is like 2018 and 19 before it was cool.

00:05:38.980 So she's very, very left wing. 1.00

00:05:42.860 Insanely.

00:05:43.360 If she is the head of the network, well, then you could imagine who she hired and what her principles and practices are. 0.98

00:05:51.680 Several NPR employees have urged the network leaders to more forcefully renounce Mr. Berliner's claims in his essay.

00:05:57.800 Edith Chapman, NPR's top editor, said in a statement last week that managers strongly disagree with his assessment of the quality of our journalism, adding the network is proud to stand behind its work.

00:06:11.060 Some employees have begun to speak out.

00:06:12.840 Tony Cavan, NPR's managing editor for standards and practices.

00:06:16.640 Well, they have that.

00:06:17.560 It took issue with many of Mr. Berliner's claims in an interview with The Times on Tuesday, saying Mr. Berliner's essay mischaracterized NPR's coverage of crucial stories.

00:06:29.480 He said NPR's coverage of COVID-19, one of the lines of reporting that Mr. Berliner criticized, was in step with reporting from other mainstream news organizations at the time. 0.95

00:06:42.540 Yeah, we said they all sucked. 0.95

00:06:44.100 Right. 1.00

00:06:44.260 Right, the fact that you copied the other people who suck is nothing you should be bragging about. 0.97

00:06:48.580 May I just point out, NPR, if everyone was jumping off a bridge, does it make it right for you to jump off a bridge? 0.97

00:06:57.540 I mean, what are they saying, what, we're just doing what everybody else is doing?

00:07:02.500 Right.

00:07:02.780 I was just following orders.

00:07:05.220 Yeah, no, that doesn't work out well.

00:07:07.340 It's kind of where it was.

00:07:08.340 I was like, our accusation at the time was, all you guys are doing this groupthink thing where you're not actually considering the facts of these situations and all the other considerations like personal liberty that should factor into these decisions.

00:07:23.060 And we said, all of you were doing it.

00:07:25.260 And their defense is, yeah, but all of us were doing it.

00:07:29.620 I know.

00:07:30.600 I know.

00:07:31.060 It's crazy.

00:07:31.560 He also defended NPR's coverage of the Russian interference, I love this one, in the 2016 U.S. election, another area Mr. Berliner focused on, noting that Robert Mueller, the special counsel investigating the issue, concluded that Russian state actors had made attempts to sway the election.

00:07:49.300 Well, yes, they did make attempts to sway the election.

00:07:52.560 But it wasn't Donald Trump.

00:07:53.120 Right.

00:07:53.420 It was not Donald Trump.

00:07:54.480 That's not the tone of the coverage.

00:07:55.760 No.

00:07:55.980 We talked about this endlessly, that yes, Russia was trying to cause chaos here. 0.89

00:08:01.700 Of course, Russia is. 0.73

00:08:03.600 That's true.

00:08:04.240 We were saying it before it was cool to say it.

00:08:06.380 Right.

00:08:06.900 But we also said, wait a minute, you think Donald Trump is a Russian agent since 1984?

00:08:13.140 Like, remember they were saying things like that at the time?

00:08:16.100 And I don't know if that one was NPR.

00:08:17.760 That was somebody else.

00:08:18.600 But still, this is the tone of the coverage.

00:08:21.720 And again, their defense is, well, we were all doing it.

00:08:25.160 Like, you know, I was going to go down and expand your analogy, and I'm rethinking it right now.

00:08:32.360 So I'm going to go on that reversed ground and instead say the media is doing a bad job.

00:08:38.200 Right.

00:08:38.560 We're all following orders here.

00:08:40.620 Mr. Kevin also pointed out that NPR had no way to verify early articles about Hunter Biden's laptop.

00:08:49.360 Oh, my gosh.

00:08:50.800 Oh, you had plenty of ways to verify.

00:08:53.700 You had plenty.

00:08:54.720 They have no contacts within the FBI, Glenn, the NPR.

00:08:57.860 No, they couldn't have tried it.

00:09:00.140 The FBI is on the phone with everybody lying to you again.

00:09:04.140 The same people that lied to you before are lying to you again.

00:09:08.040 And you're like, I got this liar on the phone who's been lying to us the whole time.

00:09:11.620 And, you know, we've been stuck out by him several times. 0.84

00:09:14.880 But he says it's absolutely a plant.

00:09:18.360 Oh, well, then we've got to stop investigating everything.

00:09:21.540 We're not even going to bring it up on NPR because we don't repeat lies.

00:09:26.820 It's incredible.

00:09:28.140 I mean, because of their irrelevance at some level, NPR gets a pass on their coverage of

00:09:34.180 that.

00:09:34.860 A lot of times we will bring up we're guilty of this saying, oh, the New York Times didn't

00:09:38.580 do this.

00:09:39.040 And the Washington Post didn't do this.

00:09:40.340 And it's true. 0.56

00:09:41.620 However, NPR was probably the worst.

00:09:44.040 They were literally mocking the idea that the Hunter Biden laptop could possibly be true.

00:09:50.800 And they've never come back and said, here's how we failed.

00:09:54.420 Right.

00:09:54.800 Instead, they say, well, everybody else was doing it.

00:09:58.280 Yeah.

00:09:58.820 And now they're suspending the people that pointed it out.

00:10:01.120 Yeah.

00:10:01.560 Like, I was just wearing my party pin.

00:10:04.560 That's all.

00:10:05.600 No, no.

00:10:06.320 You don't need to expand.

00:10:08.640 I'm just.

00:10:08.900 It was a nice.

00:10:09.860 It was a focused point.

00:10:11.480 Like, I've rethought expanding the analogy.

00:10:14.340 Why wouldn't you?

00:10:15.180 We're all doing it, Glenn.

00:10:18.700 So, but my point here is, I think NPR escaped a lot of the worst of the criticism when they

00:10:24.680 deserved the worst.

00:10:26.200 And then when they get the criticism from their own ranks, they just suspend the guy.

00:10:30.240 I mean, it's comical.

00:10:31.720 It's comical.

00:10:33.120 It's like these organizations don't even attempt to hide it anymore, Glenn.

00:10:38.940 And I think that is, you could just say there's been liberal bias forever, and of course that's

00:10:43.220 true.

00:10:43.860 But the change has been the fact that they don't even try to hide it anymore.

00:10:48.900 They don't even attempt.

00:10:50.220 It's not that they don't hide it.

00:10:52.560 It's as if they don't see it.

00:10:54.740 They are so.

00:10:55.740 It's hard to believe.

00:10:56.520 They are so part of Big Brother's plan that they don't even understand that they're part

00:11:03.140 of the ministry of truth.

00:11:05.300 It's just, I mean, it is incredible.

00:11:09.460 It's not that they're not hiding it.

00:11:11.260 They don't see it anymore.

00:11:14.140 They don't see what's right in front of their face.

00:11:18.120 And they don't want to.

00:11:19.360 It doesn't seem like they do.

00:11:22.640 I mean, as soon as it's pointed out to them, they just run from it.

00:11:26.040 And this is like, you know, you can make mistakes.

00:11:29.460 I don't, and I may be out on a limb on this, on talk radio, but like, I don't think it was

00:11:36.240 crazy to be skeptical of the Hunter Biden laptop story. 0.62

00:11:39.320 It's in a freaking bonkers story. 0.94

00:11:42.100 The son of the president dropped off his laptop at a blind guy's repair shop and left it there. 0.71

00:11:49.160 We didn't pick it up right away.

00:11:49.480 I mean, I can understand being skeptical of that story.

00:11:52.540 I believe we were skeptical on day one.

00:11:54.740 We were like, come on, this is too good to be true.

00:11:57.700 I remember thinking, I think the laptop is, it's, there was enough there for me to think

00:12:02.440 it might've been real, but I was very skeptical of the story of how they came across it.

00:12:06.720 Correct.

00:12:07.060 It felt like maybe someone inside the Biden household campaign, like leaked it to them.

00:12:11.740 Kind of like the diary.

00:12:12.860 Right.

00:12:13.100 Yeah.

00:12:13.360 Like it seemed like some other chain of custody, if you will.

00:12:17.560 But like, I mean, look, the son of the president got so coked up, he dropped his laptop with 0.93

00:12:25.100 all of his prostitute and drug pictures off at a blind guy's repair shop, who then got 0.79

00:12:31.660 it to Rudy Giuliani eight days before the election.

00:12:35.180 There is a reason to be skeptical of that story.

00:12:38.080 Like that is completely insane.

00:12:40.800 However, it is your job, especially when the nation's oldest newspaper is the one reporting

00:12:47.100 it as fact.

00:12:48.040 It is your job to go in there and take it seriously and try to figure out what the hell

00:12:52.860 is going on.

00:12:53.580 Not if you have somebody from the government who has been known to lie to you over and

00:12:58.420 over and over again and been wrong over and over and over again.

00:13:02.760 It's, you can't continue. 0.60

00:13:04.700 You've got to take that liar's word for it because this time he might be telling the truth.

00:13:09.260 Right.

00:13:10.200 I mean, that's, that is their logic.

00:13:12.640 That is their logic.

00:13:13.940 I, I know this guy has stuck us out over and over and over again.

00:13:17.620 But, but maybe this time he's right.

00:13:19.820 And this time we got him.

00:13:21.320 Yeah.

00:13:21.500 That's the part that does surprise me a little bit because I'm not surprised they're going

00:13:25.060 to favor left wing ideals.

00:13:27.620 I'm not surprised they're going to be liberals.

00:13:29.060 I'm not surprised at any of that.

00:13:30.500 I am surprised that when these people come and progressives, thank you.

00:13:34.020 When, uh, but what, when I am surprised when you put yourself out on a limb to say this

00:13:42.080 person's telling us the truth, it backfires in your face and you don't get angry.

00:13:48.480 But there's no, right now there's no consequence for, I guess there's no backfire, right?

00:13:51.840 There's no, there's, I mean, has anybody's Pulitzer prize been taken away?

00:13:55.860 I've been handing them out just as much.

00:13:58.040 It seems like.

00:13:58.600 Right.

00:13:59.040 Nobody's nobody for the, the Russiagate stories that the New York times, I think they still

00:14:04.060 have their Pulitzer prize for it.

00:14:05.860 So there is no consequence yet.

00:14:09.300 There will be at some point there is actually in your ratings and your revenues, but there's

00:14:16.780 no consequence yet from the industry, from the people you care about.

00:14:20.040 I'm still getting the award.

00:14:22.160 That's true.

00:14:22.840 And there are, and there will, there are consequences that come down the road eventually.

00:14:26.280 Yeah.

00:14:26.800 Mainly in the eternal resting place. 0.79

00:14:28.860 So are you saying they're all going to hell?

00:14:31.200 I mean, who am I to judge?

00:14:32.920 Yeah.

00:14:33.180 But yes.

00:14:34.060 Okay, good.

00:14:34.760 Thank you.

00:14:35.380 All right.

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00:15:54.320 All right.

00:15:54.820 So we were talking about the Palestinians that are, well, let's show them again.

00:15:59.640 Here they are on the Golden Gate Bridge, hassling people who are getting out of their car and

00:16:05.500 they're like, I'm just trying to get home.

00:16:07.780 You think I care?

00:16:09.280 You're in the room.

00:16:10.940 Okay.

00:16:11.200 So surrounding a guy in a way that is borderline illegal.

00:16:14.980 I mean, you're not, you have to let people pass, right?

00:16:17.720 Like, I mean, certainly the blocking of the road is illegal, but you're surrounding an individual.

00:16:23.260 But is it illegal?

00:16:24.280 Is anybody, where, then where are the police?

00:16:26.960 Where are the police?

00:16:27.400 If it's illegal, where are the police?

00:16:30.600 They should have them stationed at the bridge.

00:16:33.460 There should be bridge police.

00:16:34.740 Right.

00:16:35.000 Like when you know these things are going on, you get police there and remove these people

00:16:37.560 immediately.

00:16:38.100 Immediately.

00:16:38.520 And you push.

00:16:39.200 Oh, what a surprise.

00:16:39.980 That's what's happening in Florida.

00:16:41.120 And you what?

00:16:42.000 I heard the word push.

00:16:44.260 You know, again, that was another sentence.

00:16:45.960 That was an edited sentence.

00:16:47.240 Okay.

00:16:47.720 You heard the editing in real time.

00:16:49.120 I'm just thinking of the location of where you are is at a top of a bridge.

00:16:54.900 And that's, I had a thought and I stopped giving the thought.

00:16:58.300 Here are these protesters in Chicago blocking the way to Chicago O'Hare.

00:17:04.080 And, oh, they got the drums too, so it's even better.

00:17:06.880 Even more annoying.

00:17:07.960 Yeah.

00:17:08.600 And people are just getting out of their cars and they are just walking in the median,

00:17:13.240 dragging their suitcases behind them. 0.97

00:17:14.860 I hate them. 0.90

00:17:17.920 All I'd want to do is support Israel.

00:17:21.040 Yeah.

00:17:21.360 Like the rest of my days would be spent giving money to just the IDF directly.

00:17:26.440 You know what?

00:17:26.860 There should be that.

00:17:27.920 They should do that.

00:17:28.840 They should have IDF soldiers, right?

00:17:30.740 With Venmo scans.

00:17:32.160 Yeah.

00:17:32.360 Just standing there.

00:17:33.160 Want to give to us?

00:17:33.920 Yeah.

00:17:34.140 Want to give to us?

00:17:35.060 Okay.

00:17:36.000 So anyway.

00:17:36.720 That's a great fundraising tool.

00:17:38.700 It is.

00:17:39.180 It is.

00:17:39.460 So we were talking about it and then Stu revealed something that I had never heard before that

00:17:47.900 happened on the train as he went from the New Jersey side to Manhattan every day, an hour

00:17:55.180 and a half, he would take a train to go do the show there.

00:18:00.020 And now we worked there for five, six years, something like that.

00:18:04.420 And I've never heard this story, which is when you hear the story, kind of interesting that

00:18:11.740 I never heard it.

00:18:12.500 Because it, I mean, it wasn't a story.

00:18:15.020 It happened often.

00:18:16.660 You know, I would say every, between four to six months, you'd be on the train commute

00:18:21.440 and you're going, you know, 80 miles an hour or 70 miles an hour down the train, you know,

00:18:26.260 and you're mindlessly staring at your laptop with all sorts of weird smells of cultures you

00:18:31.720 don't recognize all around you.

00:18:33.300 Oh man.

00:18:34.280 Lofting through your nostrils and all of a sudden the train would stop and you'd just

00:18:40.560 roll your, oh no, what's going on now?

00:18:42.600 And you don't know what it is. 1.00

00:18:43.400 It could be a stupid delay in the tracks. 1.00

00:18:45.000 There could be traffic. 0.99

00:18:45.840 There could be a technical issue.

00:18:46.900 There's all these different things it could be.

00:18:48.940 And some of them mean you stop for two minutes and they keep moving.

00:18:52.180 Some of them mean it could be hours.

00:18:54.140 And then you get the, the, the news filters its way down the train car to train car.

00:19:00.660 And you find out that, no, this time it's one of those times where someone has decided

00:19:05.840 they want to kill themselves and have jumped out in front of the train, have killed themselves.

00:19:11.140 Now the train is stopped.

00:19:12.840 We cannot move because the police have to come and investigate this person who's killed themselves.

00:19:18.820 Now, I just want to point out, I just want to point out, this is different.

00:19:23.120 Anybody wants to know what it's like living in New York City, right there.

00:19:25.980 And it's not that story.

00:19:28.380 It's the fact that he never once came in to work and said, oh, geez, man.

00:19:35.380 Gosh, the worst thing happened.

00:19:36.660 The worst thing happened.

00:19:37.360 Somebody killed themselves.

00:19:38.520 He would be late and he would just say, trains.

00:19:42.580 Yeah.

00:19:42.820 That's all he would say.

00:19:44.240 Trains.

00:19:44.880 He would never say somebody jumped in front of our train and killed themselves.

00:19:50.680 You wonder why some of the people in the media are dead inside.

00:19:53.620 This is part of it.

00:19:54.360 It really is. 0.88

00:19:55.060 Just living in that city, it makes you have all sorts of calculations of like, hey, this person who was obviously mentally ill and probably is going to go murder someone, started abusing some woman on the train. 0.75

00:20:09.040 Rats crawled over my leg on the way in.

00:20:12.760 You have all these weird things that you do and you justify as normal living in this place.

00:20:19.860 And that was one of the things.

00:20:20.820 And by the way, the reaction was never like a solemn, oh, my gosh, what was that person going through?

00:20:27.040 And I started thinking about that in the concept of the conversation about the Palestinian protesters because the conversation of the people in the cars is not, gosh, maybe the Palestinians have a point here.

00:20:38.080 Maybe Gaza really does need to be free. 0.62

00:20:40.820 It's like these people are the worst people on earth. 0.97

00:20:43.820 I hate their cause. 1.00

00:20:44.840 I hate everything about them. 0.99

00:20:45.860 I want to get home.

00:20:47.320 And when we were on the train, that was the same thing.

00:20:49.920 Like, all right, the body can't still be on the tracks, right?

00:20:53.080 Like, let's just keep going and we'll tell the police where it was.

00:20:57.020 They can come look at it.

00:20:58.060 Is this a new thing?

00:20:59.340 Or when people were crossing the mountains, you know, with the wagon trains and poor old Jebediah, you know, dropped dead halfway through.

00:21:08.860 Sure.

00:21:09.800 Were there people in the wagon train where they're like, it's Jebediah, it's going to die anyway, let's keep going.

00:21:15.860 Right.

00:21:16.260 Let's keep going.

00:21:17.740 And everybody was like, no, we've got to stop and pray and bury him properly.

00:21:23.140 Were there people that were like, come on?

00:21:26.980 Oh, they're like, you know, I mean, look, Jebediah's six-year-old daughter died a few miles back and he was fine leaving her behind.

00:21:33.960 We've got to leave.

00:21:34.480 It would be what Jebediah wanted for us to keep rolling through the mountains.

00:21:38.580 He wanted us to get to the other side quickly before the snow came.

00:21:44.040 I think this is a rather modern thing.

00:21:47.940 Maybe it's not.

00:21:48.820 It's cold and it's, you know, it is a, it's somewhat cold, but it's also somewhat understandable, I will say, in the moment.

00:21:58.440 Like, because, look, you're living your life and, like, it felt, you know what it felt like, I'll be honest with you, on the train, it felt selfish.

00:22:04.720 It was like, you, you could have jumped off a bridge and no one, and it would have been, it would have been sad for the family the same way, it would have been sad for you the same way, but it wouldn't have stopped us from getting home to see our families.

00:22:18.500 And that is how, I know it sounds really cold and dark, but that's how every person on the train thought about it.

00:22:23.760 So now I have a worse story than you that I've never told you, okay, and this happened probably 20 years ago, and there's been a lot of shame on this story.

00:22:34.520 Really?

00:22:34.700 Yeah.

00:22:35.160 I felt bad about it.

00:22:38.000 Well, not so bad, but I felt bad enough to not share the story.

00:22:42.300 Okay.

00:22:42.740 Okay?

00:22:44.260 Because I was, I mean, I think I was just surrounded by monsters.

00:22:48.580 It wasn't me.

00:22:49.440 It was the other monsters.

00:22:50.320 It was the other people there.

00:22:51.580 Sure.

00:22:52.160 Sure it was.

00:22:52.640 They're the bad ones.

00:22:53.420 So my wife and I, we were in Brussels or some godforsaken place over in Europe, and we're over there, and we didn't have the best of times, and we were flying back, and the plane was really late, and I'm like, and we're landing in New York City, so that doesn't make, you know, it's not like, hey, you got a prize at the end.

00:23:20.520 And it's direct from Brussels to New York?

00:23:23.020 Not from Brussels to New York.

00:23:24.260 So you know there's probably all those Frenchy French politicians, Europeans on board, so you

00:23:31.260 don't want to talk to anybody anyway.

00:23:33.600 So we're sitting there, and I just keep seeing, you know, they show you the little airplane,

00:23:39.360 and you're like, oh, look, it's only 14 million hours before we get home.

00:23:43.760 And so I'm calculating in my head by the time we get out of traffic, and we get, it's going to be like 4 a.m. by the time we get home, and I got to be at work at 6.

00:23:55.620 And we are flying over London.

00:23:58.620 We get past London, and we hear, boom, is there a doctor on board?

00:24:06.420 Uh-oh.

00:24:07.040 Oh, boy.

00:24:07.500 That's never a good sign.

00:24:08.240 It's better than a good sign.

00:24:08.780 Is there a pilot on board?

00:24:10.020 It's better than that one.

00:24:12.340 Yes, it is.

00:24:13.400 Yes, it is.

00:24:14.200 Okay.

00:24:14.540 So is there a doctor on board?

00:24:17.040 Okay.

00:24:17.400 So everybody starts looking around, and I see this guy about three seats behind us, and the stewardesses are all around him, and he's clearly dead.

00:24:29.620 Clearly dead.

00:24:30.300 Was there a struggle?

00:24:32.260 I think he had a heart attack, you know, and just kind of like, you know, went down.

00:24:37.660 Wow.

00:24:38.500 Yeah.

00:24:38.860 And so a doctor comes, and he's doing the chest compressions and everything.

00:24:42.600 They're not bringing him back, okay?

00:24:44.720 He's dead.

00:24:45.900 They ask everybody in the row to move.

00:24:48.040 All the people in the row are all standing there.

00:24:50.240 Now, they're in business class, okay?

00:24:53.220 And I understand, you know, you've got to lay him down flat, and you're going to try to, but he's dead, okay?

00:25:00.060 Right.

00:25:01.040 Right.

00:25:01.400 He doesn't care if he sits in the back row.

00:25:04.480 You know, you can't.

00:25:06.540 He has the seats back, you know what I mean?

00:25:09.300 He's dead.

00:25:10.120 Right.

00:25:10.580 He's dead.

00:25:11.340 Like, he doesn't care about the bathroom smell.

00:25:13.220 No.

00:25:13.600 Right.

00:25:14.200 He doesn't care.

00:25:14.700 He doesn't care.

00:25:15.360 Doesn't care.

00:25:15.980 That's true.

00:25:16.680 All right?

00:25:17.740 But they ask everybody else in that row to move, and I start feeling bad for the people in the rest of the...

00:25:22.820 But you're not feeling bad for the dead guy, you're feeling bad for the people in the row.

00:25:25.860 No, I'm feeling bad for the people.

00:25:26.420 I'm like, wow, they paid a lot of money for that.

00:25:28.240 And they're going to go back, sit in the last row with the bathrooms.

00:25:32.200 Wow.

00:25:33.060 And then I hear, bing.

00:25:38.800 Oh, this is your captain.

00:25:39.680 We've had an incident on board, nothing to worry about, but it looks like we'll be heading back to London to land.

00:25:49.780 Now, you have a choice at that point.

00:25:52.540 Mm-hmm.

00:25:52.880 You have a choice.

00:25:53.560 You have a choice of, well, he's dead, and we should get him to a morgue or whatever as soon as we can.

00:26:03.180 And then there's the other choice.

00:26:06.280 He's dead.

00:26:08.140 There's 500 of us up here that are not dead and have to continue on with our lives.

00:26:14.460 Okay?

00:26:15.140 Now, I don't want to sound completely callous because my wife was next to me. 0.99

00:26:20.720 We prayed for him, and we prayed for his family.

00:26:24.060 Not to say my heart was entirely in it at the time.

00:26:28.280 I might have added, and please don't turn the plane around.

00:26:31.700 Mm-hmm.

00:26:32.920 But so they didn't, they didn't, so they're flying, and we're thinking, oh, come on.

00:26:37.760 I mean, what are the odds?

00:26:38.980 He took off in Brussels.

00:26:40.500 He's landing in New York.

00:26:42.760 The chance that he's from London.

00:26:45.280 Oh, it's like 0%.

00:26:46.380 Zero.

00:26:46.940 Right.

00:26:47.180 So why lock his body up in a third country and then have to worry?

00:26:50.860 Oh, wait a minute.

00:26:51.820 You know?

00:26:52.220 It seems like you're rationalizing a little bit.

00:26:54.020 Why would you do that?

00:26:55.200 And so then finally, you know, it goes on, and we're getting further and further away from London.

00:27:00.680 We're over the Atlantic now.

00:27:02.500 And I know they're looking and, you know, they got a tape measure out or whatever they do up front,

00:27:07.520 and they're like, which is, is it closer to London, or should we go all the way?

00:27:12.320 Yeah, that's all tape measure.

00:27:13.520 It's all tape measure, and so they finally, bing!

00:27:17.140 Ladies and gentlemen, we have decided that we are indeed going to land in New York.

00:27:21.840 We're not turning back to London.

00:27:23.100 And a cheer went up.

00:27:24.740 Wait, the crowd cheered?

00:27:26.380 Crowd cheered.

00:27:28.060 It seems a little cold.

00:27:29.360 Did you cheer?

00:27:31.060 Oh, no, that would have been wrong.

00:27:32.240 Oh, okay.

00:27:32.860 I mean, not outwardly.

00:27:34.540 Right, okay.

00:27:35.400 You know, not outwardly.

00:27:35.880 You kept that inside.

00:27:37.100 And it would have been a little worse.

00:27:38.700 I'm not sure they could have seen his body as clearly as I could.

00:27:43.520 So these people are in the back.

00:27:45.540 The peons who could not afford business class are in the back, and they're cheering.

00:27:49.860 They're cheering.

00:27:50.520 But I would expect that.

00:27:52.040 That's why you keep a curtain between those people and the business class. 0.95

00:27:56.300 There you go.

00:27:56.600 We might be thinking the same thing, but we're certainly not going to outwardly.

00:28:01.220 Now, was there a thought?

00:28:05.320 Because they're cheering.

00:28:06.260 They don't know this person's dead.

00:28:07.640 They just heard there's an incident, and we're going to keep going.

00:28:09.620 Well, it's spread.

00:28:11.820 Okay, yeah, but...

00:28:12.480 It's kind of like the train.

00:28:13.480 So you're not giving them any exemption here.

00:28:15.380 No, it's spread.

00:28:15.620 No, it's spread.

00:28:16.560 We all knew what was going on.

00:28:17.860 Now, that's pretty dark.

00:28:18.900 Yeah.

00:28:19.020 Because you were like, you were thinking about where you're going to land, which is...

00:28:22.640 And that's why I said for 20 years, I haven't said this out loud.

00:28:26.060 Because it's a little...

00:28:27.600 It's shameful.

00:28:28.440 Instead of thinking of the dead person and their family, you were thinking about how

00:28:31.240 do I get home faster?

00:28:32.360 And like, yes, of course, we can just transport this carcass all the way to New York City.

00:28:37.040 Right.

00:28:37.300 And the odds are his family's there.

00:28:38.900 That's a justification.

00:28:40.280 I'm not going to give you any points for that.

00:28:41.740 You just thought about it afterward.

00:28:43.420 Okay.

00:28:43.760 It's probably a pretty good shot.

00:28:45.400 Was there a moment...

00:28:46.700 And this is going to be tough to be honest on, but I'm going to ask you anyway.

00:28:50.300 Was there a moment that you thought, you know, we're in business class.

00:28:54.600 Like, should the body be with the coach people?

00:28:59.720 Was there a moment you thought of that?

00:29:01.620 No.

00:29:01.920 No.

00:29:02.320 Okay, good.

00:29:03.040 No, but I did think the body should be with the coach people, not because they're in coach,

00:29:07.100 but because the other people paid for those seats, and now they're sitting back by the

00:29:10.860 bathrooms, and that's just not right.

00:29:12.300 Yeah.

00:29:12.640 He's dead.

00:29:13.620 He's dead. 0.96

00:29:14.040 He doesn't care. 0.99

00:29:14.640 He's dead. 0.99

00:29:14.880 Put him in the worst seat. 0.94

00:29:15.620 And I'm not saying treat him with disrespect, but he took up a whole row.

00:29:19.660 A business class.

00:29:20.740 A business class.

00:29:21.740 I mean, he took up a whole row.

00:29:25.300 That wasn't right.

00:29:26.680 That just wasn't right.

00:29:27.540 I mean, I feel like if you're already in one of the back rows of coach, you've kind of

00:29:33.340 made a deal you might be next to a corpse.

00:29:34.960 I feel like that's part of the ticket.

00:29:37.100 You know, like, when you do that, they're like, there might be a corpse next to you.

00:29:40.860 A lot of times they tweet you like that. 1.00

00:29:42.120 You know, it's like, shut up, dead man. 0.99

00:29:44.540 You kind of feel that way. 1.00

00:29:46.360 Here.

00:29:47.100 You want some nuts?

00:29:48.760 Here's a bag of nuts.

00:29:49.920 It's so now I'm only bringing this up in hopes that people who are shutting down the

00:29:58.980 bridges and the highways to the airports for whatever God forsaken thing, I don't, I really

00:30:05.800 don't care.

00:30:06.480 I don't care if you're like, Jesus loves us.

00:30:09.420 And you've got the drum and you're like, Jesus loves everybody.

00:30:12.060 Jesus loves everybody.

00:30:13.100 Like, if you stop people going to the airport, if you stop people from going home after a

00:30:20.360 hard night, nobody's going to hear that.

00:30:22.240 Nobody.

00:30:23.240 Nobody's going to listen.

00:30:25.040 And how do I know?

00:30:26.600 Because I've been on a plane with 500 people that cheered when we weren't going to drop

00:30:31.900 the dead guy off.

00:30:33.220 It's sad that you brought this story up after the finale of Curb Your Enthusiasm, because

00:30:38.380 it would have made a great episode of that show.

00:30:41.320 That would have been incredible.

00:30:42.680 I did feel a little like Larry David.

00:30:44.860 Yeah.

00:30:45.140 It's very Larry David.

00:30:46.520 Yeah.

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00:32:30.200 Bill Cloud is with us.

00:32:32.100 He's from Shorsham Ministries.

00:32:34.040 He's the founder of that and Jacob's 10th Followship founder.

00:32:38.260 Welcome to the program, sir.

00:32:39.440 How are you?

00:32:40.700 I'm doing well.

00:32:41.680 How are you today?

00:32:42.360 Very good.

00:32:42.780 It's good to have you on again.

00:32:44.620 Good to be here.

00:32:46.080 Tell me the red heifer thing.

00:32:47.880 I heard back in the 90s, I think it was, people were talking about the red heifer that

00:32:53.500 you know, they're rare, but I think there was a, I think it was an American farm, maybe

00:32:58.980 Florida.

00:32:59.660 I'm not, I can't remember that had a bunch of red heifers and the sent them over to

00:33:04.760 Israel.

00:33:05.700 Is that right?

00:33:06.760 Well, yeah, I think the, uh, it was from Mississippi was the farmer.

00:33:12.900 Anyway, I don't remember that, but anyway, it was back in the late nineties, 97.

00:33:16.200 And there was one red heifer, they even named her Melody.

00:33:20.580 And I think they put her on the cover of Newsweek or Time or something like that.

00:33:24.440 But anyway, you know, it created a big stir about the red heifer and red heifers connected

00:33:28.800 to the idea of the possibility of a rebuilt temple.

00:33:32.480 And so, yeah, there was a lot of chatter back as far back as the late nineties.

00:33:37.580 Okay.

00:33:37.860 So there's been nine red heifers that have been sacrificed since Moses and that's to

00:33:43.900 purify the, the temple.

00:33:47.980 Well, the red heifer is basically thematically, it's the antidote for the golden calf.

00:33:53.620 The golden calf is, you know, about rebellion, death.

00:33:57.100 Moses has that ground into powder, mixes it with water.

00:34:00.540 People drink it that identifies who's guilty death.

00:34:03.580 The red heifer, it's burned, the ashes are collected, it's mixed with spring water or

00:34:10.080 pure water.

00:34:10.980 And then those who've been contaminated and particularly with, you know, contact with

00:34:15.340 something that is dead, you're purified and you're cleansed ceremonially.

00:34:20.660 And so the idea is that you can approach God where before with the golden calf, I'm not

00:34:26.960 going to go with these people. 1.00

00:34:28.080 If I go with them, I'll have to kill them. 1.00

00:34:29.720 They're so stubborn, but then he made allowances. 0.99

00:34:32.080 And so it is for ceremonial cleansing in order to approach God.

00:34:38.640 So that's important in relation to the rebuilding of the temple because they don't have a temple

00:34:44.120 at this point.

00:34:45.340 Religious Jews see the temple as the manifestation of God's presence on earth.

00:34:51.260 They want to be able to approach God in that regard.

00:34:54.440 And so the ashes of a red heifer with the waters of purification are essential if things

00:35:00.620 are going to be cleansed.

00:35:01.540 The temple mount, all the utensils, all the implements that go into the sanctuary and the

00:35:06.360 people who go up to the temple mount.

00:35:08.960 Okay.

00:35:09.400 So in a nutshell.

00:35:10.860 In, in, uh, I think it was on the hundredth day anniversary of, uh, October 7th, um, Hamas 0.81

00:35:18.520 came out and they talked about really the red heifer and said that the Jews are going to

00:35:23.780 start purifying the temple mount.

00:35:26.360 And, you know, this is a, an act of war and they knew exactly what the red heifer meant,

00:35:31.860 but we've had a red heifer before.

00:35:35.300 Why have we not, why did they not use that red heifer and make that to 10th?

00:35:41.560 And why is this one supposedly the 10th?

00:35:46.480 Well, the one that I referred to from 97, you know, they were watching it, but it, it

00:35:52.240 actually grew some hairs that were, you know, for different color because this red heifer

00:35:55.940 has to be entirely red.

00:35:57.580 There can't be hairs of a different color, which is, you know, why it would make it so

00:36:00.940 rare.

00:36:01.720 Right.

00:36:01.980 So my understanding is at this point among these red heifers, they feel like they have 1.00

00:36:08.200 some that are still qualified, you know, that would be eligible to be, you know, slaughtered

00:36:13.680 and burned, et cetera.

00:36:14.720 So, um, yeah, as far as the Muslim world and particularly, you know, the, the likes of Hamas 0.99

00:36:20.740 and Hezbollah and people like that, um, that that's going to get them up in arms. 0.97

00:36:25.960 And so that's, that's, I would say that that's what makes it a little different is that they're

00:36:30.680 reportedly among these red heifers, some that they feel are qualified to be slaughtered for 0.99

00:36:36.760 that purpose.

00:36:37.340 And they've already built, um, the, uh, the ramp, I guess, to the altar and they've built

00:36:44.240 an altar, which I don't know if that's been done before.

00:36:47.600 And they're claiming that before, um, the Passover somewhere, you know, around this time

00:36:54.400 that they're going to slaughter the heifer and burn the heifer ceremonial ceremonially.

00:37:00.760 Correct.

00:37:01.280 Well, from what I understand, well, let me backtrack just a minute.

00:37:06.740 An altar, there were people who had, uh, built quote unquote altars in times past, uh, to

00:37:13.420 make a statement, a political statement.

00:37:15.320 I mean, 67 religious Jews have been pushing to rebuild a temple.

00:37:19.340 Um, in 1990, I was in Jerusalem at the Western Wall and a group that wants to see the temple

00:37:25.320 rebuilt came in with what they said was going to be the cornerstone of the temple.

00:37:28.680 And it was, it was symbolic.

00:37:31.040 It was a protest.

00:37:32.000 It was saying, Hey, we're here.

00:37:33.240 We're going to push for this.

00:37:35.080 So through the years, there have been different things that have happened.

00:37:38.860 And it seems to me, it's particularly around the time of Passover when you hear all this

00:37:43.480 chatter and also in the fall feast around the Feast of Tabernacles.

00:37:46.660 So as far as this altar, I've heard rumors.

00:37:50.220 I haven't seen anything that's absolutely verified, but here's the issue.

00:37:54.900 If a group of people have red heifers and even go so far as to slaughter it and burn the ashes,

00:38:00.960 um, is that going to be accepted by the, you know, the greater religious community?

00:38:07.260 Right.

00:38:07.560 That's uncertain, frankly.

00:38:09.480 Yeah.

00:38:09.680 Cause who has the, who has the authority to do it?

00:38:14.020 Well, that's just it.

00:38:16.280 Um, you know, it's entirely possible.

00:38:19.100 And I want to underscore that word possible that the group that is pushing this right now

00:38:24.720 who have these heifers, if there is one that they deem to be qualified, qualified to be slaughtered 0.98

00:38:30.820 and burned. 0.99

00:38:31.920 Um, okay.

00:38:32.680 So they do that.

00:38:34.080 Is the greater religious community going to regard that and accept that here's another issue.

00:38:38.860 What about the Israeli government?

00:38:40.360 But I tend to think they're going to frown very much.

00:38:43.180 Yeah, very much so.

00:38:44.240 So you could have ashes.

00:38:46.340 They could do it.

00:38:47.420 They could have ashes that are just sitting there.

00:38:49.840 Point being is just because you have a red heifer, and I'm not saying that's unimportant,

00:38:54.800 but just because you have a red heifer, and even if they burn it, which is when I'll perk up and take notice,

00:39:00.640 even then, if you have the ashes, that doesn't necessarily mean that you're going to start next week

00:39:06.340 in rebuilding the temple, because if they burn a red heifer, Glenn, everybody's going to hear about it,

00:39:12.820 including the Muslim world, including the Israeli government.

00:39:16.240 It's going to—that would be a provocation.

00:39:19.720 Now, one day it's going to happen, but is it now?

00:39:22.840 Who knows?

00:39:23.420 So, Bill, the people who are doing it are the people from the Temple Institute who, from what I understand,

00:39:35.640 I was over there—I talked to some of them while I was over there last couple of times.

00:39:41.640 They say they have everything that is required to rebuild the temple.

00:39:45.520 They say if the temple—if it could be cleared so they could build it,

00:39:50.380 they have everything they need to build it except for the red heifer at the time,

00:39:55.780 you know, and permission to go up on the Temple Mount and build it.

00:40:00.040 Is that true? Do they have everything?

00:40:03.500 That's what I was told years ago.

00:40:05.820 I mean, for years, the Temple Institute has been, you know, creating the garments for the priests,

00:40:11.540 all the different utensils, all the different furnishings.

00:40:16.140 And, I mean, this is going back 15 years or more, you know,

00:40:20.780 when I was there at the Temple Institute visiting.

00:40:23.460 They said, yeah, we've got all those things.

00:40:25.560 The only thing that they didn't have was, you know, the Ark of the Covenant.

00:40:29.340 And, as you said, you know, there was an eligible red heifer for the waters of purification.

00:40:34.700 So, I think, you know, they're very motivated to see the temple rebuilt.

00:40:44.460 But I believe that they also realize that it's not just getting everything together and, boom, here we go.

00:40:50.260 There's a lot of things that are going to have to be considered.

00:40:52.680 So, what has to—we've made a lot of progress, and these things could take a thousand years to check off the last couple,

00:41:02.820 and it could happen tomorrow.

00:41:05.500 You never know.

00:41:07.280 How much—how far down the line are we on the known prophecy of the things that have to happen before, you know,

00:41:18.680 the clock starts ticking for the return of Christ?

00:41:23.380 Well, I think the clock has already started ticking.

00:41:26.240 Now, let me say this.

00:41:27.960 When it comes to Bible prophecy and being fulfilled,

00:41:31.400 it is my experience that it almost never happens the way we think it's going to happen.

00:41:36.940 It just always happens the way it's written.

00:41:39.220 And then when it happens, we go, oh, that's what he meant, you know.

00:41:42.380 So, it doesn't happen necessarily according to our interpretation.

00:41:46.200 It happens the way God says it's going to happen.

00:41:48.080 So, that being understood, here's Bill's opinion.

00:41:50.860 Now, when seasons change, the weather changes.

00:41:54.340 And every spring in our part of the country, and you're familiar with it there in Texas as well,

00:41:59.640 when springtime comes around, you know, you have the potential for violent weather.

00:42:03.480 And sometimes we get severe thunderstorm watches, but that if the conditions, you know, worsen, then it can become a warning.

00:42:12.160 My opinion is this constitutes a thunderstorm watch.

00:42:18.700 It doesn't mean that we're under a warning.

00:42:20.700 It doesn't mean it's necessarily imminent.

00:42:22.380 Now, things can change tomorrow, as you said, and all bets are off, and everything's going really fast.

00:42:27.780 And when you say that this is a warning, not a watch, you're talking about the red heifer.

00:42:34.220 I'm thinking that the presence of red heifers constitutes, if I can put it this way, you know, we're under a thunderstorm watch, not a warning.

00:42:42.620 It doesn't mean that the rebuilding of a temple is imminent.

00:42:45.780 It means that there are people in the land of Israel who want to see that happen. 0.80

00:42:50.920 They've been working toward that.

00:42:52.280 They've been preparing for that.

00:42:53.620 They're going to have everything in place when the time is right, at least in their eyes.

00:43:00.500 And can I say this as well?

00:43:02.120 You know, sometimes the Bible describes things that, well, the Bible prescribes, you know, God said, don't eat the fruit of that tree.

00:43:10.360 And then the Bible describes what people do.

00:43:13.280 And they ate the fruit of that tree.

00:43:15.020 And so the Bible does talk about there being a temple in the last days, but does that mean that God sanctions it, or does it mean that people pushed for it?

00:43:24.820 And that's a big difference.

00:43:26.080 And so that's why I say our interpretation sometimes, things don't happen the way we think it's going to happen.

00:43:31.980 But back to your question, where are we?

00:43:34.660 I do believe we're in the last days, and I do believe the Messiah is returning.

00:43:38.120 Is he going to return in my lifetime?

00:43:39.700 I don't know.

00:43:40.600 Nobody knows that.

00:43:41.520 So in that vein, I want to make sure that I'm focusing on all the things that he said were important.

00:43:50.420 And with all due respect, he didn't say, okay, be on the watch for a red heifer.

00:43:59.900 He didn't.

00:44:01.040 I mean, I'm not trying to demean the role a red heifer will play as it relates to the end days. 1.00

00:44:08.480 But that's not what he said to be on the lookout for.

00:44:10.960 What he said was, you need to be careful that no one deceives you.

00:44:15.180 You need to be aware of, in the last days, the lawlessness in the world is going to become so pervasive that if it were possible, even the very elect would be carried away by it.

00:44:28.200 And it's going to be so bad that some people are just going to give up.

00:44:32.840 They're just going to quit their faith.

00:44:34.860 And so these are the things that he said that you and I need to be aware of.

00:44:39.280 So, you know, sometimes, and I want to be very careful when I say this, because, you know, I've taught prophecy for 30 plus years.

00:44:46.860 I believe in Bible prophecy.

00:44:48.620 I believe that God says these things, and they will happen according to his will.

00:44:52.720 But sometimes we can get so focused on what we think is going to happen or what we want to happen that we can lose sight of what God is actually doing and saying in this moment.

00:45:06.280 And so I'm not ready to declare that because there are red heifers in Israel that there's going to be a third temple built, you know, right away. 0.92

00:45:14.660 I don't know, but I'm not ready to say that.

00:45:17.280 If they burn a red heifer, we're all going to hear about it, I guarantee you.

00:45:21.500 And if they burn a red heifer, then I'll go, oh, OK, well, let's pay attention and see what happens now.

00:45:26.260 Right. Because they can sit there for a long time.

00:45:29.280 It doesn't mean that they have to build it.

00:45:31.280 It's just one other thing off the checklist.

00:45:34.160 Right. You know, and things could be that way.

00:45:37.500 And they could sit in, you know, limbo for a while.

00:45:40.160 Or, you know, conditions can change.

00:45:42.680 Iran can decide to do something like they did the other day and wrap it up.

00:45:46.400 And people, you know, take that as an opportunity to do certain things.

00:45:51.440 I mean, things can happen overnight.

00:45:52.960 9-11, you know, our world changed overnight.

00:45:55.840 So I'm not going to discount that possibility.

00:45:58.320 I'm just saying that for me, as far as this red heifer component of Bible prophecy,

00:46:04.620 I'd say, OK, we have a thunderstorm watch.

00:46:07.380 We just need to be watching and seeing what happens.

00:46:09.340 And it doesn't necessarily mean it's imminent.

00:46:11.960 Bill, I'd love to have you back maybe tomorrow if you have time, because I'd like to talk to you about the relationship between Russia and Iran and what we're facing there.

00:46:23.260 And if that plays a role in any of the things that we are supposed to be looking for.

00:46:28.280 But also, you mentioned the Ark of the Covenant.

00:46:30.340 You can't have the temple rebuilt without the Ark of the Covenant.

00:46:35.900 And there seems to be some people that believe, don't worry, we know exactly where it is.

00:46:40.700 Could I get you to come back on the program?

00:46:43.640 Talk about those things?

00:46:44.840 Great.

00:46:45.300 Sure.

00:46:45.860 Just let me know when.

00:46:47.080 You got it.

00:46:47.520 Thank you so much.

00:46:48.200 Bill Cloud.

00:46:49.020 You can follow him at his website, billcloud.org.

00:46:52.280 Na-na-na-na-na.

The Glenn Beck Program - April 17, 2024

Best of the Program ｜ Guest： Bill Cloud ｜ 4⧸17⧸24

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