The Glenn Beck Program - June 12, 2026


Best of the Program ｜ Guest： Bill Cloud ｜ 6⧸12⧸26


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00:01:03.300 Also, Bill Cloud joins us on today's Best Of
00:01:06.260 and he's talking about Alexander Dugan, Russia, Iran,
00:01:10.680 which by the way, it's Friday,
00:01:12.060 which means, hey, we're going to have a deal
00:01:13.940 by the end of the week.
00:01:14.640 Well, we'll talk about that Monday.
00:01:16.680 We know it's Friday when we say
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00:01:24.460 and why it is so dangerous
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00:03:52.120 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:03:56.760 So I want to talk to you about the problem with our society and the opportunity for our society.
00:04:02.000 You know, what is the one thing you hate the most about what's happening in our society? 0.97
00:04:07.320 i despise the fact that everybody is a whiner there was like oh it's so hard i'm never gonna
00:04:14.020 make it and i know i sound like the old guy get off my lawn i know i get it but hear me out for 0.66
00:04:21.340 a second every trouble that i've ever had in my life every trouble everything that my father i
00:04:29.360 mean he was so wise my father you know taught me you sit around and whine about it or you make the
00:04:34.820 adjustments you need to make, and then find a way to learn from that, and grow from that, and use
00:04:41.280 that, okay? I think that's the secret of life. You can either let life crush you, or you can allow it
00:04:50.960 to motivate you, and go, you know what? No, no, no, I'm getting back up again. I'm not staying down.
00:04:55.900 Nobody, nobody can put their thumb and keep me down, and when you have that, it's really hard,
00:05:02.040 especially when you're young but once you start doing it once you really start you have to do it
00:05:08.160 smartly you can't just be a bully about it um but once you really figure this out everything can
00:05:14.560 change everything can change and I want to show you why this hardship that everybody's going
00:05:19.860 through is good it doesn't mean look I remember I was absolutely flat broke I was divorced I was
00:05:27.620 a recovering alcoholic, barely holding on. Nobody wanted to work with me. You name it,
00:05:35.520 I had screwed it up in my life, okay? And I would never want to go back to those days. However,
00:05:43.280 in retrospect, that's the biggest growth I ever had. Those days are what changed me and made me
00:05:51.300 into the man I am today. Without those days, I don't know who I'd be, but I wouldn't be sitting
00:05:56.240 here with you so let me let me prove this out with science okay 1968 a scientist uh get uh comes
00:06:05.220 out and he's decided he's going to make utopia not for people but for mice and rats okay his name was
00:06:13.780 john calhoun he worked at the national institute of mental health and he wanted to answer the
00:06:18.580 question that I think should interest all of us. What happens with a society when every problem
00:06:28.120 is removed, when everything becomes easy? I can't imagine why that's relevant today in America.
00:06:37.260 Everybody has it so easy and we're all complaining, oh, it's so hard. Oh my gosh,
00:06:42.660 go somewhere else in the world and look okay sorry he just became the old man yelling at the
00:06:49.000 sky again um so he builds this paradise it's a a mouse world unlimited food water that never
00:06:58.820 runs out no predators no disease perfect temperature endless nesting material every
00:07:05.320 danger every want every stressor that a mouse has ever faced in the history of mice completely gone
00:07:11.040 the only thing he gives them besides protection was each other and time now he called his last
00:07:19.620 experiment universe 25 and the number matters because it was the 25th time he had built one
00:07:25.340 of these little gardens of ease and edens for mice and rats okay and it ended the same way
00:07:31.260 first 24 already told him where the story goes but he thought i'm gonna try it one more time
00:07:37.240 he drops in eight mice, four males, four females.
00:07:42.220 And at first, it's mouse heaven, okay?
00:07:44.660 They breed, the population doubled about every 55 days.
00:07:49.100 And he called this the strive period.
00:07:52.840 It was heaven, and it was working exactly as designed.
00:07:57.760 But by day 300 or 315, something like that,
00:08:02.060 there were more than 600 mice thriving in a space
00:08:05.580 that he had built to hold nearly 4,000.
00:08:08.880 So they have plenty of room to spare.
00:08:11.080 They have absolutely everything.
00:08:12.520 It is mouse heaven.
00:08:15.180 That's the peak.
00:08:17.880 Something starts to go horribly wrong.
00:08:22.180 Growth slows for no physical reason.
00:08:25.300 They can't figure it out all of a sudden.
00:08:27.560 And in all 25 experiments, exactly the same thing.
00:08:33.160 Okay.
00:08:33.300 This is a thing that none of the researchers counted on.
00:08:37.180 There was no territory to defend.
00:08:38.940 There's no predator to escape.
00:08:41.020 There's no scarcity to overcome.
00:08:43.560 There's no role left for a mouse to fill.
00:08:47.240 And a creature with no role, no struggle, no purpose starts to come apart.
00:08:53.060 The males who had nothing to fight for either turned violent or vanished into apathy.
00:08:59.560 Let me ask you something.
00:09:00.600 what's happening in our society right now the males the young males that have nothing to fight
00:09:09.600 for they either are turning violent or apathetic then you have the moms the mothers stop mothering
00:09:19.920 they abandoned their young they began attacking their young they forgot about their children
00:09:26.180 the whole intricate social order that made a mouse a mouse completely dissolved in 25 identical
00:09:35.420 experiments 25 times it happens at the same time then came the most haunting part of the
00:09:42.600 experiment experiment i think there's a new kind of mouse that appears this mouse didn't fight
00:09:50.380 they didn't court they didn't mate they didn't uh compete they wouldn't engage with others at all
00:09:59.420 they they ate they slept they groomed themselves endlessly perfectly i mean their coats were sleek
00:10:07.020 and flawless they were unscarred because they'd never been in a single struggle before and they
00:10:12.040 started paying attention to what they look like and grooming themselves by every outward measure
00:10:18.700 they were the healthiest, best-looking mice in the universe.
00:10:22.920 Calhoun, in the experiment, after 25 times of this happening,
00:10:27.120 called them the beautiful ones.
00:10:29.300 He called them the beautiful ones, but as he also noted,
00:10:33.220 they were already dead inside.
00:10:35.180 They were alive, they were fed, they were immaculate
00:10:38.820 and utterly and completely empty inside.
00:10:43.800 So what happens?
00:10:45.460 Population, this thing is built, I think it's said,
00:10:48.100 for 4,000, population peaks at 2,200, barely half of what the space could hold. And then
00:10:56.060 the population begins to decline. May I ask what's happening with our birth rate? What
00:11:02.160 is happening with our population? On day 600, in a world still overflowing with food, the
00:11:12.140 last baby is born. Day 600. After that, nothing. Not one more mouse. Not ever. And on day 920,
00:11:23.500 the last of the mice dies in paradise. And universe 25 becomes the 25th tomb. And in that tomb,
00:11:33.760 the bowls are still full
00:11:35.620 the water is still flowing
00:11:37.960 there's plenty of
00:11:40.020 there's plenty of stuff
00:11:41.860 to make a home for yourself
00:11:43.680 Calhoun
00:11:45.620 in the experiments
00:11:47.200 as it starts to fall apart
00:11:48.760 he pulls out some of the beautiful ones
00:11:50.940 and he puts them in a fresh clean world
00:11:53.880 with normal mice
00:11:55.120 to see if they could come back
00:11:57.740 they couldn't
00:12:00.160 they had forgotten
00:12:01.840 how to be mice
00:12:03.100 there was never any recovery
00:12:05.720 of any of the mice
00:12:07.040 when he wrote the paper
00:12:11.700 and he's writing
00:12:15.800 about paradise
00:12:16.780 he didn't title the paper
00:12:19.580 paradise, he titled it
00:12:21.620 death squared
00:12:22.840 and the reason why he titled that
00:12:25.520 is because there are two deaths
00:12:26.860 the first death that comes
00:12:29.520 first
00:12:29.960 can you guess
00:12:32.160 death of the spirit
00:12:34.820 the death of the body
00:12:37.820 comes later
00:12:38.580 it just makes the death of the spirit
00:12:41.320 official
00:12:42.000 I'm tired of people not being honest
00:12:51.220 I'm tired of people playing games
00:12:52.960 I'm tired of people trying to
00:12:54.760 win
00:12:56.160 I'm tired of people
00:12:58.300 trying to position them, whatever
00:13:00.420 So let me be honest with you
00:13:03.600 The way I want people to be honest with me
00:13:05.700 Because the internet has turned us into something
00:13:08.620 We aren't
00:13:12.500 Ease
00:13:17.580 Is not something we should want
00:13:20.120 Scientists argue about what this
00:13:24.920 Mouse utopia really proved
00:13:27.400 It wasn't overcrowding
00:13:30.820 The place was half empty when the rot set in. 1.00
00:13:33.800 Mice are not men.
00:13:34.920 You can't draw a straight clean line from a rodent pen to a human civilization.
00:13:39.160 I'm not going to pretend you can.
00:13:40.540 But you strip away every argument and one fact still sits there and just will not move.
00:13:47.620 The mice didn't die because they ran out of something.
00:13:51.320 They died because they had everything.
00:13:55.240 Every problem was solved.
00:13:56.920 Every need was met.
00:13:58.180 every stressor lovingly removed it was a the ultimate safe space and it killed them
00:14:08.220 take away the struggle and it turns out you've taken away the very thing that was actually
00:14:15.820 holding them together you know we are always we're always our best in struggle you know something 0.99
00:14:22.240 happens, Pearl Harbor, we come together and we kick somebody's ass. 9-11 happens. And to quote 0.99
00:14:28.980 Toby Keith, we'll put a boot up your ass. When something bad happens, a tornado or a hurricane 0.99
00:14:37.740 or an earthquake happens, and we rush together to help, that's who we are. And we can't look away
00:14:47.480 from that. We also can't look away that society is trying to take and make us the most comfortable
00:14:56.320 people to have ever drawn breath, and that's not necessarily good. We have engineered away
00:15:01.960 more friction and risk than any other human in history, and it is a genuine triumph. It is. I'm
00:15:09.860 not romanticizing hunger or hardship. Those are real evils worth fighting, but the experiment
00:15:16.860 whispers a warning only a fool would ignore. Comfort is not the same thing as flourishing. 0.94
00:15:24.880 A life with nothing left to overcome is not a paradise. It is a slow and beautiful surrender
00:15:31.520 eventually to death. Notice which societies on earth are the safest, richest, most frictionless
00:15:39.340 ever built. And notice that those are the exact societies quietly deciding not to have
00:15:46.640 a next generation the mice in abundance stop making mice
00:15:52.480 but here's where the story for me changes and stops becoming prophecy and becomes a choice
00:16:01.120 because there is one thing those mice could never do that you can do today
00:16:07.000 a mouse can't sit down and go you know what i'm going to give my life meaning
00:16:12.380 Life is more than endless cheese.
00:16:15.360 It can't choose the hard road when the easy one is sitting right there.
00:16:18.900 It can't invent a purpose out of thin air.
00:16:22.100 You can.
00:16:23.200 You can pick up somebody else's burden that nobody's forcing on you.
00:16:28.120 You can build the thing that maybe doesn't need to be built, but you can build it.
00:16:37.900 You can have the child.
00:16:39.440 You can take the harder job.
00:16:40.800 You can serve the cause.
00:16:42.500 You can fight the fight.
00:16:43.580 You can fill a role that no one assigned you.
00:16:46.120 You know, I think about that guy who he and his wife aborted their baby because of Down syndrome.
00:16:53.320 Do we happen to have that audio?
00:16:55.680 Let's play the audio.
00:16:56.560 This is what the father, he aborted a child that had Down syndrome because of, you know, well, it's just not going to have a good life.
00:17:06.160 Really?
00:17:06.900 Okay, listen to this.
00:17:11.500 Yeah, Sarah, you do.
00:17:12.820 Let me see if I can find it.
00:17:13.820 I'm sorry.
00:17:16.900 Where is it?
00:17:18.840 It's towards the bottom.
00:17:20.020 Yeah, 17.
00:17:20.880 Cut 17.
00:17:22.400 Yeah, of course I'm glad my dad didn't terminate me.
00:17:26.500 But I'm normal.
00:17:27.900 So.
00:17:29.860 Do you hear that?
00:17:31.420 Yeah.
00:17:32.140 Somebody asked him, are you glad you're alive and your dad didn't abort you?
00:17:36.200 Yeah, of course I am.
00:17:38.280 But I'm normal.
00:17:40.800 The cavalier attitude, and I contend this had nothing to do with a child.
00:17:46.020 It had everything to do with his life.
00:17:48.920 It had everything to do with his wife's life. 0.97
00:17:51.040 They wanted an easy life.
00:17:53.040 They didn't want a troubled child.
00:17:56.720 They didn't want to have to deal with a mess.
00:17:59.400 Welcome to the mouse kingdom.
00:18:03.660 Every living soul needs purpose.
00:18:06.900 Find yours.
00:18:08.180 They need something to strive for.
00:18:10.820 Strive for something.
00:18:13.200 And we have a very bright future ahead.
00:18:16.080 Stop looking for the easy path.
00:18:18.480 This is the best of the Glenn Beck Program.
00:18:23.420 I am going to break a rule slightly.
00:18:26.280 I don't like talking about other podcasters, especially those who I disagree with.
00:18:32.020 But I just need to set this up a little bit.
00:18:35.440 last week I told you about
00:18:37.300 what was happening in Russia
00:18:39.440 and Candace Owens went over to Russia and the story was not
00:18:41.480 about her, it was about Alexander Dugan
00:18:43.680 and well she came home and I guess
00:18:45.380 she did her podcast today and I have been told
00:18:47.560 that she is talking
00:18:49.400 about how Russia
00:18:51.040 is the
00:18:53.340 defender of the faith and
00:18:55.380 that everything in Russia is good and
00:18:57.240 of course everything here in America is in
00:18:59.360 decline, they're not, our culture
00:19:01.500 is evil, theirs isn't, they're
00:19:03.400 the defender of the faith
00:19:04.360 and i just disagree with almost all of that well except for the premise that america is in decline
00:19:10.700 yes it is if we choose to continue and our culture is evil i think it's pumping up poison myself we
00:19:17.120 have to become people of god but we certainly don't need a christian prince to do it the lord
00:19:22.980 has it you know in hand and he's requiring his people to turn his face back to him if we do then
00:19:29.140 we'll be saved if we don't well then you know all bets are off but it's as easy as that i don't need
00:19:34.580 to go to somebody who is telling us like alexander dugan is russia is aligned with iran is there any
00:19:41.300 doubt in your mind that iran is not a good place not one where jesus is like you know what sometimes
00:19:46.560 i like to vacation in iran i just love the i love the clerics there i don't think so um dugan said
00:19:52.960 Also, he would give nukes to any state that would, not United States, like capital state, any state that would actually help wipe the West off the face of the map, take America on.
00:20:07.460 Okay, I don't think that's a friend.
00:20:09.640 You know, that doesn't sound like somebody I want to hang out with on my vacation, but to each his own, I guess.
00:20:15.820 i've been telling you about alexander dugan for a long time but now he brought up something just
00:20:22.720 last week that i had not i had not heard about and it's the uh
00:20:27.880 cat etch cat catachon i think or the uh katacon i don't know exactly how to pronounce it i'd
00:20:38.460 never heard of it before there is a op-ed now at glennbeck.com written by bill cloud and he
00:20:44.060 talks about what this is and you know alexander dugan and russia and what they really believe
00:20:50.460 because you cannot get caught in this trap even the very elect are going to get caught in this
00:20:55.320 trap and it's very very dangerous bill welcome to the program hi glenn it's great great to be
00:21:00.380 with you again thank you how do you pronounce this and what is katechon catacomb catacomb
00:21:10.700 Catachon.
00:21:11.540 Catachon.
00:21:12.040 Catachon.
00:21:12.560 Okay.
00:21:12.920 Yeah.
00:21:13.920 Well, it's a Greek term, actually, and it's used by the Apostle Paul in a letter he wrote to the Thessalonians.
00:21:22.400 And he's describing he who restrains or he who's holding back.
00:21:27.560 And so, you know, it's called the restrainer.
00:21:29.940 So that's what it technically means. 0.74
00:21:31.980 And what he's referring to is that the restrainer, the katakon, is who or what holds back the man of sin from being fully revealed.
00:21:41.960 And so the assumption is made that the katakon or the restrainer is a force for good and it's there to keep evil in check. 0.74
00:21:49.640 But apparently, and this is, I just found this out last week, too, when I read the article by Mr. Morrow, that Alexander Dugan believes that the West, I think we can include Zionism and Jews and that, that they're the evil in the world that has to be restrained. 0.67
00:22:07.860 And so he is apparently applying the role of katakon or the restrainer to Russia, to his vision of what Russia should be, that they are a God-ordained instrument who, with Islam as an ally, that they're in the world to overcome the evil as he sees it, that is the West and the Jews, et cetera, et cetera.
00:22:29.840 So that's what it – that's where the idea comes from.
00:22:32.860 how do christians how are they getting caught up in this i mean you say to me hey you know who the
00:22:42.160 evil is america you could convince me that america does great evil with its culture i i agree we are
00:22:48.620 way off base with our culture we are we are an enemy of god in many ways but when you're looking
00:22:54.860 to say okay we gotta wipe that out and hey by the way let's partner with russia i begin to question
00:23:01.740 you, let's partner with Russia and Iran. There's no way I, as a Christian, believe that at all,
00:23:08.940 ever. How are they falling for this? Well, just my opinion, I guess, is that, you know,
00:23:16.100 a lot of Christians just really don't know what the scripture says, quite honestly. A lot of people
00:23:21.540 don't take the time to study it. A lot of people regurgitate theology, and theology, and I say
00:23:26.360 this respectfully, is not equivalent to the truth. The theology is the study of God, but that's
00:23:33.740 always subjected to a man's opinion. And in this particular case, Dugan is interpreting what Paul
00:23:41.300 said about the restrainer and applying it to Russia in this case. So I think that's how it
00:23:46.940 happens. It's generally a lot of people just really don't know what the scripture has to say.
00:23:52.060 They know what people say it says, but they don't take the time to read it.
00:23:55.900 So, I mean, there's probably a lot of other reasons. 0.97
00:23:59.040 And people have their eyes on all the wrong things at this point in time, including Christians. 0.99
00:24:04.160 So that's just my thoughts.
00:24:07.240 Last week, I found out that Dugan and his allies are saying that the Antichrist is going to come from the West, from America, and it's a Jewish Antichrist.
00:24:20.020 Do you read that anywhere in Scripture? Anywhere, any way?
00:24:26.400 In other words, that there's going to be a Jewish Antichrist? No, I don't.
00:24:29.900 And the Antichrist is coming from the West?
00:24:34.040 Well, I mean, there are people who believe that, but no, I don't see that in Scripture at all.
00:24:39.640 In fact, all the patterns that we see in Scripture seem to say that the Antichrist is going to come from the East.
00:24:47.040 for instance nebuchadnezzar he is a prototype of the antichrist he was the king of babylon he's 0.59
00:24:53.320 the one that came in and destroyed jerusalem destroyed the temple he went mad for seven
00:24:58.080 years he became a beast he made an image of himself and he is from the east and and so there's
00:25:04.240 a pattern there so i could go on and on and that but all the patterns and seem to show that he's
00:25:09.860 going to come from the east, not from the west. And isn't there something about Gog and Magog
00:25:17.660 being Persia and Russia? Is any of that true? Well, when I was reading about Dugan saying that,
00:25:30.860 you know, he believes Russia is the restrainer and all these kinds of things, and, you know,
00:25:37.440 wanting to align himself with Islam and how he believed that the restrainer,
00:25:41.900 the catacomb, along with al-Mahdi, 0.95
00:25:44.480 were going to lead this holy war against the West and overcome the Jewish 0.87
00:25:48.060 anti-Messiah and all these kinds of things.
00:25:52.700 That's when, you know, my brain just really just was on overload.
00:25:56.640 And I began to, you know,
00:25:57.580 connect that idea to all of these different prophecies.
00:26:01.640 And one of them being there is this battle that is described in Ezekiel 30
00:26:07.260 38 and 9, the Gog of Magog war.
00:26:09.740 Now, let me just insert this real quick in what Morrow said in his article,
00:26:14.940 is that Dugan believes that this climactic battle that the Catacomb and Almaty is going to fight is Armageddon.
00:26:23.380 But I'm thinking, if that happens, and I say if, he might be walking into what is described in Ezekiel 38 and 9.
00:26:32.880 So that is this confederation of, it's a confederation of Islamic nations, but the Bible describes or speaks to the chief prince of Meshach and Tuval, Gog of Magog, who comes from the far north.
00:26:49.980 And where Israel's concerned, the far north could be and include Russia.
00:26:55.760 So, you know, people have talked about this for centuries as who is Gog of Magog and certainly in the last 50, 60, 70 years. 0.79
00:27:04.720 But when I saw this and that there's this man who's pushing this ideology and philosophy supposedly even to Putin and how Russia's destiny is to be the katakon and to put down the West and to put down Israel, et cetera, that's what I really thought. 0.88
00:27:24.080 There might be something to this Russia being allied with these Islamic nations coming into the mountains of Israel. 0.94
00:27:33.220 That's pretty strong in my view. 0.99
00:27:38.280 But now the result will be, of course, that this invading force will be destroyed.
00:27:45.620 So, Bill, I mean, I'm not asking anybody to believe that we're living in end times or anything.
00:27:49.760 But, you know, I just did some research.
00:27:52.120 Let me see if I can find this.
00:27:53.000 It is shocking the number of people that actually believe that we are possibly in the end times.
00:28:03.740 Let me see if I can find it.
00:28:06.200 Let's see here.
00:28:08.300 You look at this.
00:28:09.560 It's not a fringe view.
00:28:10.920 According to Pew, 39%, nearly 4 in 10, say, yes, we're living in the end times.
00:28:16.960 Evangelical Christians say 63%.
00:28:19.100 But here's the crazy part.
00:28:20.620 About a quarter of people with no religious affiliation said yes to that as well.
00:28:26.400 Nine percent of atheists say, yes, we're living in the end times.
00:28:32.420 That's interesting. 0.97
00:28:34.320 Yeah, isn't that fascinating?
00:28:36.100 I found that absolutely fascinating.
00:28:39.060 And, you know, I did some research on, you know, this has been happening since, I mean, the apostles thought Jesus was coming back.
00:28:44.920 But there are some things now that are unique that are important pieces, like, for instance, the reestablishment of Israel, important pieces of prophecy that we've now hit that make war, rumors of war, nations rising against earthquakes, famines, all that stuff, mean a little bit more this time.
00:29:08.740 Would you agree or disagree with that?
00:29:10.800 I absolutely agree.
00:29:13.040 If you don't mind, let me give you this passage of Scripture.
00:29:16.740 It's in Hosea chapter 6.
00:29:18.880 It says, Come and let us return unto the Lord.
00:29:20.500 He is stricken, but he will bind us up.
00:29:21.900 He is broken, but he will heal us.
00:29:23.660 After two days, he revives us.
00:29:25.740 And on the third day, he will raise us up that we may live in his sight.
00:29:28.940 So it talks about two days.
00:29:31.220 After two days, something happens.
00:29:32.600 And on the third day, basically, it's describing the Messianic era when we live in his sight, 0.54
00:29:38.920 when Messiah rules and reigns from Jerusalem on the earth.
00:29:42.240 The point being this, a day with the Lord is 1,000 years. 0.94
00:29:45.420 1,000 years is as a day.
00:29:47.920 It's been 2,000 years or two days since the Messiah left, and it was said that he will come again.
00:29:54.660 So we're coming to the end of that second day when he revives us.
00:30:00.120 On the third day, he will raise us up.
00:30:02.340 So we're in that time.
00:30:05.000 We're at that threshold.
00:30:05.920 I believe adamantly that we're coming to the end of the second prophetic day and about to enter into the third day, which means then there are going to be birth pangs.
00:30:17.840 There are going to be all these wars and rumors of wars and all the things that Messiah describes in Matthew 24 and all the prophets talk about.
00:30:24.600 And then, you know, let's bring it back to this philosophy or theology that Dugan has, which, by the way, embraces this idea that Moscow is the third Rome of the Roman Empire, and supposedly, according to their theology, it's to be the last one.
00:30:43.680 So he believes we're in the last days, too. And he aligns himself with Iran and these exotic nations who they also believe it's the last days, looking at it from a completely different perspective.
00:30:56.000 So all of these things are aligning in a way that I don't think it's happened in human history that, you know, I know that there will be people who disagree with that.
00:31:05.440 But when you've got nine percent of atheists saying we're living in the last days, that's pretty strong.
00:31:10.520 pretty it's really remarkable um you know i've had atheists say glenn i can't describe there's
00:31:16.920 no word to describe what's happening in the world right now except for the word evil and i'm like
00:31:21.540 you're an atheist they're like i know i know i know exactly what i'm saying um but that's the
00:31:26.940 only way i can describe what i'm seeing right now you're streaming the best of glenn beck to hear
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00:31:36.100 I'm playing this almost under duress
00:31:40.100 almost under duress
00:31:41.480 here it is the world premiere
00:31:44.120 of Thune
00:31:45.640 the ballless rhino
00:31:59.820 he walks in big
00:32:01.200 talks like a king
00:32:02.320 but the room stays cold
00:32:03.560 when it's time to bring
00:32:04.680 He points at the board, then ducks the fight
00:32:07.100 All soup, no spark, and the words all bite
00:32:09.660 He says, I got this, then shift the blame
00:32:12.200 The same old grin with a different name
00:32:14.760 Say it loud, say it plain
00:32:17.080 You had the chair, but lost the game
00:32:19.520 Too much pose, not enough drive
00:32:21.960 You keep the crowd, but you never arrive
00:32:24.740 From the ball, let's Rhino
00:32:27.060 You don't get it done
00:32:29.320 From the ball, let's Rhino
00:32:31.980 Always on the run 0.90
00:32:34.480 You make a big scene
00:32:36.920 Then fold up small
00:32:39.440 To the ball-less rhino 0.85
00:32:41.740 Ain't got balls at all 1.00
00:32:44.480 You sell that 0.99
00:32:46.040 Okay, all right, all right, all right, that's enough
00:32:48.620 There you go
00:32:50.460 Yes, Ricky
00:32:51.200 Is it any wonder we never get any
00:32:54.480 Interviews of note from the swamp?
00:32:57.300 Any wonder at all?
00:32:59.740 You know what?
00:33:01.120 To miss on a John Thune interview
00:33:04.380 I'm happily playing that
00:33:07.340 I'm happily playing that
00:33:09.460 He has nothing to say
00:33:11.520 That I need to hear 0.96
00:33:12.500 He's a ballless rhino 1.00
00:33:15.080 Anyway 0.84
00:33:15.440 You're going to be in D.C.
00:33:17.660 You could take that track right to his office
00:33:19.720 And just like blast it through the halls
00:33:21.440 We got to do that
00:33:22.300 Oh my gosh, thank you for that
00:33:24.140 I will be in D.C. soon
00:33:25.720 Thank you for that idea
00:33:27.040 I may need
00:33:29.980 I may need enough copies
00:33:32.020 I may need a hundred copies
00:33:33.180 Let's just leave it at that
00:33:34.080 I don't know what hundred people I could give it to, but I might need a hundred copies.
00:33:38.220 All right.
00:33:39.660 I saw Disclosure Day, Steven Spielberg's new film last night.
00:33:43.140 And it's good.
00:33:44.280 It's very good.
00:33:44.980 It's, you know, Steven Spielberg.
00:33:46.640 It's not his best.
00:33:47.480 Everybody's like, oh, it's the best film he's ever made.
00:33:49.780 No, it's not.
00:33:51.440 It's not.
00:33:52.380 But not his best is still better than most movies that are out.
00:33:56.480 Okay.
00:33:56.680 So it's worth seeing.
00:33:58.820 With that, and I'm not going to blow anything, but with that, 1.00
00:34:02.360 But some moments in this are just downright stupid. 0.95
00:34:07.640 They kind of make you question if Spielberg, did Spielberg see the final edit of this? 1.00
00:34:12.440 You know, and when you'll know it when you see it, because there are a couple of Jar Jar Binks level stupid calls in this movie. 0.97
00:34:20.220 You know, grown adults hiding behind a leafless bush in a split rail fence while being hunted. 0.99
00:34:25.600 the people are on the other side of the fence and they're just crouched down behind a split rail
00:34:30.380 fence and a bush with no leaves you know or they're hiding behind a rock literally about
00:34:37.200 seven feet away they had a chance to escape but they wanted to see what happened so they're
00:34:41.820 standing behind this rock while everybody's searching for it was like please did spielberg
00:34:47.000 watch this movie anyway in the end you'll find the the aliens more believable than some of the
00:34:52.700 humans but go see it that said that's the worst of it and it's only a couple of scenes you know
00:34:58.000 quickly that go by you're just like oh come on um but here's what i recommend if you want your
00:35:04.520 money's worth uh don't go out and watch the nine o'clock show or the eight o'clock show
00:35:11.760 you know go to dinner and then go and reverse that go to the six or seven o'clock show and
00:35:17.520 then go have dinner and invite some friends that you know can think invite some friends to go with
00:35:24.220 you and go see the movie then sit down and dinner and then because i'm telling you the real the real
00:35:31.780 story is not the one on the screen it's the conversation that that movie will make will
00:35:36.020 just pull right out of you okay um it opens and no spoiler alert needed here it because the opening
00:35:42.860 scene is the world is at DEFCON 2, one step from the brink. It's a sub, sub, sub, sub, sub, sub,
00:35:51.440 subplot. Or is it? I think the movie would say yes, but I'm not so sure. But DEFCON 2,
00:36:00.520 in case you don't know, only time in American history we've ever had it is Strategic Air Command
00:36:04.600 has confirmed DEFCON 2 only one time in our history, and that's the Cuban Missile Crisis
00:36:09.520 in 1962 defcon one is we're at full war nuclear war um defcon two is without going to war it is
00:36:19.220 when everything the rockets are juiced and ready to take off all the planes that need to be up in
00:36:25.820 the air are in the air we just have to call them back it's that kind of thing most people i think
00:36:30.700 in the theater missed what happened at the end and i won't tell you what happened at the end
00:36:34.680 But the disclosure is over, the chases take over the whole movie,
00:36:40.820 and that opening fear of DEFCON 2 kind of vanishes by the final credits.
00:36:45.760 It's there, and it's not sloppy writing.
00:36:48.380 I think it's misdirection.
00:36:49.860 It's the magician's other hand.
00:36:51.880 The story tells you what you're supposed to fear in the first five minutes
00:36:55.600 and then walks you right past it while you're staring at a spectacle.
00:37:00.040 okay now in reality if and i don't believe this is what's happening here but people are like this
00:37:08.600 movie and it's just softening up if this movie was built to soften you up for disclosure
00:37:15.620 then the ending is really important and you might miss the whole point on what the government would
00:37:22.940 want you to do in case of disclosure real or a psyop okay there's also in the movie a religious
00:37:28.940 angle that uh i'm not i'm not really sure i'm all that comfortable with um i mean i am comfortable
00:37:37.300 with it being presented the movie the way it was presented it's just these are all conversations
00:37:43.040 we have to have okay um and this what this this part is you know more to the surface and it's
00:37:50.080 pretty unavoidable um and the question is if they if there are aliens are they from god
00:37:55.940 now hold that thought because this is where the movie stops being entertainment and starts asking
00:38:03.260 harder questions about the world we're actually living in and there's two theories that i think
00:38:08.340 are worth mentioning here predictive programming and cultivation theory okay there is an old idea
00:38:15.300 called predictive programming it was popularized by a researcher alan watt and the idea is that
00:38:21.540 entertainment can preload the public with ideas you put concepts into films and shows and stories
00:38:28.320 year in advance so when something similar appears in reality it feels familiar almost inevitable
00:38:34.120 we've seen it with the x-files okay yeah it's like an episode of the x-files okay that that's what
00:38:40.100 they mean preloading you so you you don't necessarily freak out i've seen instead when
00:38:45.240 it happens you're like i've seen this before i've seen this movie before right now skeptics
00:38:50.280 rightly point out that this can become a conspiracy lens that explains everything therefore doesn't
00:38:58.520 explain anything all right but you don't have to go full fringe to see something real here
00:39:03.780 the department of defense or war and the cia have had an official entertainment liaison
00:39:10.880 office for decades did you know that um they are they are brought in to help shape stories
00:39:21.740 and it's not a shadowy conspiracy it's i mean it's it's out there you know they're they're
00:39:28.400 given jets and bases and and technical advisors for their movies and in in exchange they shape
00:39:34.900 the stories for the government and this is documented policy hollywood gets access government
00:39:39.960 gets their understanding of influence, okay?
00:39:43.420 Now, the second theory is cultivation theory.
00:39:47.020 This one was developed by a guy named George Grubner,
00:39:50.460 and he was at the University of Pennsylvania.
00:39:53.180 Decades of research on this shows that,
00:39:55.800 now listen to this,
00:39:57.220 heavy media consumption doesn't just entertain,
00:40:00.720 it cultivates your sense of reality.
00:40:03.880 Heavy media consumption.
00:40:06.080 What are most people doing eight hours every day?
00:40:09.960 They are scrolling and staring and consuming media.
00:40:16.740 This research shows that heavy viewers develop mean world syndrome, where everything is a danger.
00:40:24.460 They overestimate the danger, crime, threats.
00:40:28.280 They become more fearful, more dependent, and more open to strongman measures.
00:40:34.300 Fear sells, fear shapes.
00:40:36.700 grubner testified in front of congress that fearful people are easier to manipulate and control
00:40:44.060 psychologists have studied this for years and years and years repeated exposure to threats
00:40:48.620 in media can desensitize or heighten anxiety depending on the framing so wars crisis existential
00:40:57.000 threats stories in prime to prime populations and it primes them to accept changes they might
00:41:05.160 otherwise resist. Look how our country has been primed. Nazi, Nazi, Nazi, Nazi, Nazi, Nazi, Nazi,
00:41:10.780 Nazi, Nazi, Nazi. What does that do? That primes you to turn on your neighbor. That primes you to
00:41:16.540 excuse violence. This isn't magic. This is human psychology. And it plays a heavy,
00:41:24.080 heavy role in our society and our culture today. So, you know, I don't know if this is
00:41:32.420 all of this stuff that you're seeing now with the ufos if it's natural or being fed to us
00:41:37.640 but we know stuff is being fed to us um through our algorithms intentionally also think about
00:41:44.660 orson wells orson wells 1938 war of the worlds what was the lesson we were supposed to learn
00:41:52.780 from that we taught we were taught that war of the worlds with with orson wells caused mass panic
00:42:00.720 People fleeing into the streets, believing Martians has landed, blah, blah, blah.
00:42:05.100 But that's not true.
00:42:07.800 Only about 2% of the country was even tuned in.
00:42:11.580 It was War of the Worlds and Orson Welles and the Mercury Radio Theater
00:42:15.120 was something that was up against the hardest show.
00:42:20.560 A radio show done by a ventriloquist, Charlie McCarthy and Edgar Bergen.
00:42:26.060 I know it's hard to beat. It's hard to beat.
00:42:28.000 It's like Lawrence Welk.
00:42:28.940 We're being beaten by a guy with an accordion?
00:42:31.900 Yeah.
00:42:32.600 Anyway, 2% were listening to Orson Welles.
00:42:35.420 The panic was tiny.
00:42:36.540 It was real, but it was tiny, okay?
00:42:38.540 The legend that there was mass panic, where did that come from?
00:42:42.580 Listen to this.
00:42:44.440 Newspapers.
00:42:46.380 Newspapers who were losing advertising revenue to radio during the Depression.
00:42:50.700 and newspapers seize the broadcast
00:42:54.620 to paint radio as reckless and untrustworthy.
00:42:59.720 Hmm, you mean like the way cable news paints podcasters?
00:43:05.780 Huh.
00:43:07.260 So the hysteria wasn't about public gullibility.
00:43:10.860 It was about one medium manufacturing fear
00:43:14.240 to destroy a rival.
00:43:15.980 the lesson we supposedly learned was wrong the real lesson is always ask who profits from the fear
00:43:26.220 president reagan um he said in 19 i think 87 he was at the united nations and he said
00:43:35.780 that all of our earthly differences would vanish if we would face an alien or an alien threat from
00:43:43.440 the outside outside of the world okay a sitting president musing out loud about unity through
00:43:51.380 extraterrestrial fear back in 1960 brookings the brookings institute um delivered a report
00:43:59.340 to nasa on the implications of discovering extraterrestrial life and this is in the movie
00:44:04.940 i mean it's they don't quote this but this is implied in the movie what they found in 1960
00:44:11.320 they warned the government that if you talk about aliens and you confirm them it could
00:44:18.840 destabilize our entire society it would challenge religious and cultural foundations and that
00:44:24.500 leaders would you know should should carefully consider if they're going to release the
00:44:30.100 information that's what this whole movie is about okay the fight between somebody who wants the
00:44:35.120 information released and somebody who doesn't want the information released and which one is right
00:44:39.580 this conversation is 65 years old and it happened in government buildings on the record in the 1960s
00:44:46.520 okay we've been seeing a steady drumbeat of disclosure that is happening i don't know what's
00:44:53.860 real and what's not pentagon is releasing footage congressional hearings talk of and i'm quoting
00:45:00.380 non-human uh biologics what a government who has been done not denying this for decades
00:45:08.640 suddenly decides to open the door, why and who profits from fear?
00:45:16.560 Run a pure thought experiment here, not claiming this is happening,
00:45:20.580 just asking what it could mean if disclosure narratives were softening us up
00:45:26.120 for a bigger narrative, something bigger, actual disclosure.
00:45:30.960 What major permanent shifts in the Western world might need a spectacular distraction?
00:45:37.280 we're we're living right now with rapid changes currency power governance
00:45:43.540 there's an economist his name is robert higgs and he he talks about something called the ratchet
00:45:50.520 effect a crisis expands government power we know that and even after the crisis passes the machine
00:45:58.040 doesn't go back it only ratchets upward bigger wars change borders and currencies they don't
00:46:05.060 have to be won outright. They just need to last long enough for people to forget what life was
00:46:09.620 like before and accept the new normal. So in 2026, we see shifting global orders, debates over the
00:46:16.320 dollar's dominance, pushes for digital currency, stable coins, bricks, all of this stuff. Okay.
00:46:23.120 All of this is under strain. Okay. So we have all this competition, protectionism, realignments,
00:46:31.680 everything's about to change you feel it you feel it a dramatic external threat
00:46:38.080 if it's real or amplified could unify populations it would justify new controls surveillance global
00:46:46.160 coordination um everything else would face resistance but if you could just bring everybody
00:46:51.140 together now again this is a thought experiment i really don't believe this is what it's what it is
00:46:55.560 i i i think disclosure day i don't think it's a government operation i think it's spielberg he's
00:47:01.340 a master storyteller who has his finger on the pulse, and he sees what's going on. He wrote a
00:47:05.200 great story. I think that's what's happening. However, he has collaborated with government
00:47:09.640 entities to help shape narratives before. The famous Clinton denial, I did not have sex with
00:47:14.220 that woman, that's Steven Spielberg, okay? The deeper point here is not aliens. It's vulnerability.
00:47:22.300 The only door any power, human or otherwise, needs is fear. A person grounded in true
00:47:30.140 faith history principles cannot be stampeded by flashing lights or headlines
00:47:37.740 watch the other hand watch the other hand admire the big-eyed invaders in the movie go see the
00:47:44.640 movie six o'clock show dinner at nine talk about the open the opening and the ending what is this
00:47:50.460 movie really about and saying and just stay awake know what you believe lights in the sky are one
00:47:57.780 thing, the ratchet turning the shadows is another.