On today's show, Glenn Beck reviews the Joker and gives his thoughts on the media coverage of it, Pat Gray joins the show to discuss Syria, and Bill Gertz is on to discuss the NBA's shameful handling of the China situation.
00:01:59.300We're also going to show you the facts on the law firm that is now representing both the original whistleblower and now the second one that has come forward.
00:03:01.020Well, I don't have whatever restrictions you have.
00:03:04.420Let's just say that I got an email last night from some people on Capitol Hill and they were burning the midnight oil and they were all sitting together.
00:03:26.880And they were watching the special last night together because...
00:04:13.780I wouldn't know, Stu, but I would imagine that there are people that are, you know, possibly, you know, thinking about, you know, their own investigations.
00:21:54.300I like the fact that this stuff can happen and she's so good at it.
00:21:57.420But you have to remember that in our society over the past 20 years, has there been someone who has been more persuasive culturally than Ellen?
00:22:48.400She could have gone the activist route after that, I think, and made a case and probably been very popular and raised lots of money for liberal causes by coming out and saying, they shut my TV show down because blah, blah, blah.
00:22:59.600Instead, she's been friendly with everyone.
00:23:01.180I mean, she, you know, her show has, we've had charity auctions here where her show is donated like free passes to go see it.
00:23:10.000She's, she's done all sorts of things to make her producers have reached out to people on this program.
00:23:18.580Like, I mean, it's, it's not a, they're not, they're not the buzzsaw.
00:23:23.180And they're trying, they're presenting themselves as human beings who are likable.
00:23:28.000And that is, and over time you've seen, I mean, just look at the numbers on, on the, the issue you'd think she'd care about gay marriage has become gone from an issue where it was in, you know, in the nineties, it was about 20%.
00:23:38.440And now it's about 60, over 60% popularity.
00:23:41.500Now I'm not saying Ellen's obviously completely responsible for that, but her approach has been far more effective than these activist groups.
00:23:47.920And there's something there for us to learn too, right?
00:23:51.100In that, not just, is it a nice moment?
00:23:56.120People, when people like you, they tend to agree with you more.
00:24:00.740And if we wind up just being a group of people who, you know, who have great arguments, but everybody hates, it's not going to be, it's, it's not effective.
00:24:09.760We, you know, it's tough because I think a lot of times we get into that sort of day to day back and forth of whatever issue is out there today, we have to win that and we have to fight.
00:24:19.780And we, you know, you got to stand up for what you believe in, but how you do it is important too.
00:24:23.500And if you look at the longterm, if you take a longer term approach, not just winning today's tweet battle, you wind up, I think doing things differently.
00:24:31.860And over a longer period of time can actually, you know, win these battles and make real change and, and look, do what you can do.
00:24:40.040You can't, you're not going to win every one of them, but I think to put the best face possible on the things you believe in, you actually have to put on, you know, the best face you have possible.
00:24:49.340I think we're at the beginning of something.
00:24:51.240And I think the left, if they're smart, will hijack it eventually, make it their idea.
00:25:03.380The, what is the most, probably the most effective video we've seen in years happened last week was the video of the kid who was on the stand.
00:25:12.820His brother was murdered, killed by a cop.
00:25:15.580It was, she was convicted of murder, who went into the wrong apartment after going on a long day of duty.
00:25:21.680And afterwards she said, he said, I, look, I don't even want you to go to prison.
00:25:49.300The moment of compassion where the judge came down off the stage and gave him a hug was fiercely debated in the days after the trial.
00:25:56.980Some praised it as a rare and much needed moment of humanity.
00:26:00.020Others criticized it as a potentially unconstitutional act and wondered whether a black defendant would receive similar attention in the criminal justice system.
00:26:09.400Now, of course, they, you know, point out that the judge was black.
00:26:17.720It was way out of bounds, said Andrew Seidel, a lawyer with the Freedom From Religion Foundation, which filed a complaint against the judge in Texas with the State Commission of Judicial Conduct.
00:26:27.560The group argued that Judge Kemp's decision to preach the Bible violated the First Amendment because she handed, she gave him a Bible.
00:33:07.340I even have a chapter that goes into how communists lie.
00:33:11.340So lying is a key feature of their system.
00:33:13.680And they've lied about what their goals and aspirations are.
00:33:17.380And, again, they see the United States as their main enemy.
00:33:21.860They believe that there's a massive conspiracy by the United States and the West to contain socialist, communist China.
00:33:31.040And I've tried to highlight in all of these areas, from ideological threats to financial threats to military threats to intelligence threats.
00:33:42.660I've been covering this for over 30 years.
00:33:44.940And it's just, like I say, it's becoming a greater threat every day.
00:33:49.020Like I said, this NBA case is just an egregious example of appeasement of this communist dictatorship.
00:33:56.700So how are they specifically a threat to us?
00:33:58.840Well, militarily, they have said that they are developing weapons and capabilities, like cyber attacks and lasers, that can do incredible damage to us.
00:34:12.280And, like I say, I outline a scenario in the book where China could, this is a fictional scenario,
00:34:17.920where China could actually launch a global Pearl Harbor missile attack against all the ships in the U.S. Navy and just totally knock them out.
00:34:27.020So they're developing capabilities in preparation for a future conflict with the United States.
00:34:32.920Another alarming area is in the area of cyber.
00:34:35.540However, the U.S. intelligence agencies have detected that China has been engaged in cyber attacks across the board inside of our system.
00:34:48.300They're looking at basically how to map our electric grids so that if there's a crisis, they get inside of that grid and they shut down the electricity.
00:34:57.720You know, we have 16 critical infrastructures, transportation, electric, all that.
00:35:02.880But when you come down to it, there's really only one critical infrastructure, and that's the electric grid.
00:35:08.220And we know they've been inside of it mapping it and preparing for future attacks.
00:36:02.880And he said, well, because of their statements.
00:36:04.880And, well, it turns out that two years later, there was a Chinese spy working inside the Defense Intelligence Agency, and the general was reflecting those views.
00:36:16.400So this is how China has influenced our views of their system.
00:36:21.760Talk to me a little bit about the China 2025 and China 2020.
00:36:28.920One is internal-looking, if I'm not mistaken, and the other is external, correct?
00:36:34.880Well, there's a number of different programs.
00:36:38.860China 2025 was their economic program to basically corner the world market on all of the high-technology areas, most notably 5G.
00:36:50.540They have other programs here called the Thousand Talents Program,
00:36:54.140where they're siphoning off and hiring scientists and others to go back to China and give them that expertise.
00:37:01.940And after the White House, under the Trump administration, revealed this China 2025 program, guess what?
00:37:10.200They decided, uh-oh, we better not talk about this anymore.
00:39:07.200And within a few short years, the CIA concluded that China, through espionage, obtained secrets on every deployed warhead in the U.S. arsenal.
00:39:17.080They then spread that technology to Pakistan, and then Pakistan further spread it through the AQ Khan nuclear supplier network to North Korea, Iran, Syria, and Libya.
00:39:28.700And we learned this in 2003 when we took down the Libyan nuclear program.
00:39:32.640There were Chinese-language documents on how to make a small warhead for a missile.
00:39:37.120I can't think of a greater disaster for U.S. and global security than trading nuclear cooperation with the Chinese.
00:39:46.620So I want to go to kind of what you're talking about, espionage.
00:39:50.660But it's espionage on a global scale, and here in America, I don't think people really understand how much they have stolen from us and what the ramifications are.
00:40:02.180We'll go there with Bill Gertz in just a second.
00:40:04.440The name of the book is Deceiving the Sky.
00:40:07.800If you want to know what China really is, you know, it happened to be playing ball for the NBA, you might want to pick this book up before you make an apology.
00:40:15.400So they have been stealing technology from us like crazy.
00:40:47.300And one of the reasons was, as they outlined in this report, that China is obtaining between $250 billion and $600 billion annually in American intellectual property and high technology.
00:41:00.940No nation can survive, especially when our economy is so wedded to the high-tech sector.
00:41:06.460So this gives you a sense of how serious the problem is.
00:41:11.880And it's not that they're stealing, you know, books from us.
00:41:14.440They've always just taken – I've got a Chinese copy of Harry Potter that's not Harry Potter, but it is Harry Potter.
00:41:19.740They don't care about things like that.
00:41:22.480But they're going even to places where you're building turbines, and they didn't know how to build a turbine, and they'll say, okay, we'll buy these turbines from you, but one of our people has to be there to witness the whole thing.
00:41:35.380When they do, they hack into the site, they take all of the technology, all the know-how, and then they can't – in this particular case, they canceled the contract on the turbines.
00:41:45.760Yeah, it's unbelievable, the scope of the intellectual property theft and acquisition.
00:41:54.960I mean, it ranges from government secrets, and I highlight that in the book, about how they stole the C-17 design information worth $3.4 billion from Boeing.
00:42:08.760And then they went out and built their own Y-20 transport, the same thing.
00:42:12.960Same thing, they also stole secrets on our fighter jets.
00:42:17.100So on the commercial side, again, it's, again, a staggering amount.
00:42:24.880He has basically said, look, we're not going to allow this kind of theft to take place.
00:42:29.900And it was allowed to happen under successive Republican and Democratic administrations.
00:42:35.260They looked the other way, they said nothing, and it continued to happen.
00:42:38.980So Trump is saying, just like we did in the latter stages of the Cold War against the Soviet Union, when we blocked Western and U.S. technology, he's saying, OK, let's see what kind of a Chinese economic miracle can exist without stolen U.S. technology.
00:42:55.940And my guess is we're starting to see a kind of decline in the Chinese economy.