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Bill O'Reilly and Charlie Kirk join me to talk about the crisis in the middle of the coronavirus quarantined America, the White House's attempt to get Americans to wear face masks in public, and the lack of resources to care for the sick and elderly.
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welcome to the podcast uh we are going to talk a little bit today about uh the world health
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organization which is uh seemingly an arm of the chinese government at this point uh real real
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problems going on there and when you don't have an authority when it comes to health that you can
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trust uh we get into that we get into uh a little bit about the pathetic handling of uh media matters
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and the media in general as they try to take conservatives out of context and bash them as
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they try to cover uh the the coronavirus situation bill o'reilly joins us he has uh a lot about not
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only coronavirus but what to do with yourself in the middle of this quarantine which is pretty
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interesting charlie kirk also joins us uh he's got a piece on the stimulus package and kind of the
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wrong road we're going down and we have the the former sheriff uh that uh is in the show tiger king
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uh he's a listener to the program and i happened to call in and and wanted to give us a little
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update on how crazy it was being the sheriff uh during that whole situation uh make sure you uh
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all right let's get through these uh as quickly as we can total confirmed cases now worldwide we are
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now over a million cases up from 950 000 yesterday total confirmed deaths worldwide 54 000 that's up
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from 48 000 yesterday 12 of u.s confirmed cases now require hospitalization that is roughly on par
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with italy at 12 requiring hospitalization and lower than spain where it is 18 of the patients
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require hospitalization we now have 245 380 confirmed cases and 6095 people have died that is
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up about 40 000 from yesterday and up a thousand deaths from yesterday the white house now is going
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to recommend all americans wear face masks in public president trump said yesterday that they are
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considering a recommendation he says a recommendation is coming out i don't think it's going to be
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mandatory if people want to wear the masks they can um however we shouldn't be using masks that you know
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our surgeons and our nurses and everybody else need uh at the hospital uh later somebody from the white
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house said that they're going to narrowly target areas with highly community uh community transmission
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uh and that's the matter that remains under discussion whether they're going to do this for the
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whole country or not new memo from the cdc says in light of new data cdc recommends the community use
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cloth masks as additional public health measure that you can use to prevent the spread of the virus to
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those around this news comes as laredo texas joins more than a dozen american cities or counties that
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have mandated the use of face masks for all people in public spaces such as grocery stores or shopping
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centers violators without a face mask at least in laredo face up to a thousand dollar fine similar
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provisions are now being considered in the entire state of california according to gavin newson's
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office uh office antibody tests are getting excel accelerated uh availability unlike vaccine testing
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and production which could take months if not years SARS COVID-19 antibody tests could be available in the
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u.s in just a few weeks now this could be the key to opening america back up and getting us out of
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our shelter in place if you already have an immunity to this virus you could go back to work most known
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coronavirus immunities however in humans are not permanent researchers say that you know the flu for
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example it grants only a seasonal immunity and can be caught just a few months later so we have to watch
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this carefully the hospital ships are sitting empty the much touted navy hospital ships in new york and
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los angeles sit 95 empty as of last night in new york the comfort a thousand beds largely unused it's 1200
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member crew almost idle we're waiting for the patients one of the nurses said only 20 patients have been
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transferred to the ship uh new york hospital struggle or struggling to find space for thousands of infected
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with the coronavirus but they're not sending any patients over to the uss comfort uh the navy hospital ship
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the mercy in los angeles docked only has 15 patients there michael dowling the head of uh northwell health
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new york's largest hospital system said if i'm being blunt about it this is a joke everyone can say thank you for
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putting up these wonderful places and opening these cavernous halls but we're in a crisis here we're in
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a battlefield the issue is red tape on top of the strict rules preventing people infected with the
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virus from coming on board the navy is also refusing to treat a host of other conditions guidelines
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disseminated to hospitals include a list of 49 medical conditions that would exclude a patient from
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admittance to the ship and ambulances cannot take people directly to the comfort they first have to
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deliver patients to a city hospital for a lengthy evaluation including a test for the virus and
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then pick them up again for transport to the ship 911 call centers are already massively swamped in new
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york ambulances are not available to take non-infected persons to each ship meanwhile across new york
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hospitals are overrun patients have died in hallways before they can even be hooked up
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to one of the available ventilators in new york doctors and nurses who have had to use the same
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protective gear again and again and again are now getting sick themselves so many people are dying the
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city is running low on body bags said uh the head of the hospital the coroner's the coroner's office told
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us told our administrator to start double wrapping bodies in sheets for the time being let me give you a
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hopeful sign university of pittsburgh researchers have found covid 19 a vaccine they say scientists at
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the university of pittsburgh school of medicine believe they found a potential vaccine for the
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coronavirus researchers announced their findings yesterday believe the vaccine could be rolled out
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quickly enough to significantly impact the spread of disease the vaccine would be delivered on a small
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fingertip size patch when tested on mice the vaccine produced enough antibodies believed to
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successfully counteract the virus scientists say they were available uh they are able to act fast
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because they had already done research on similar coronavirus SARS and MERS Trump administration
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ordered the FBI to fast track the next phase of animal trials for the experimental vaccine
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officials warn that even if it's success uh human trials and ultimate production could still be as far
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away as 12 to 18 months it's early but it's a very positive uh result um there's something going around the
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internet now that i want to dispel quickly and that is up in vermont uh and maryland people are saying
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now that they are making seeds to grow food illegal in stores governor phil scott issued an executive order
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mandating that retailers including walmart target costco ace hardware home depot cease
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in-person sales of non-essential items this makes vermont the second state in the u.s to make gardening supplies
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non-essential well that's the problem the list of items deemed as non-essential includes electronics
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what books are you kidding me furniture sporting equipment toys and gardening supplies or lawn care
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such items could still be ordered by way of various company websites according to the signs posted
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inside walmart stores posted to twitter by walmart shoppers and it shows that there's a ban that you
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can't buy seeds our studios and our uh our staff just uh reached out to the governor's office we have
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not heard anything officially but we have gotten a couple of responses where they have just opened this
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back up walmart uh as we called them and we said hey what's going on they said it was a misinterpretation
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of the law and they are now calling those walmart's to say remove the signs from the seeds you're able to
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buy those seeds again it is really important really really important that you don't panic when you see
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things many times it'll be a misunderstanding like this was don't panic and don't feed in to any of
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those problems that's your covet 19 update uh we're going to take a quick break stations and then we're
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going to come back and we have the sheriff on with us uh from oklahoma city who was the sheriff that you
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saw larry rhodes in joe the tiger king that docuseries we do that in one minute
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you're listening to the best of the glenn beck program
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so larry rhodes is the former garvin county oklahoma sheriff he was the sheriff for over
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eight years and many of those years he dealt with the now famous joe exotic uh who
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we all now know from the uh tiger king uh he wrote into the show just uh what yesterday the
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day before to set the record straight he said hello glenn beck i listen regularly on ktok am in
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oklahoma city and i have to reach out to you about tuesday morning's comment that the tigers were the
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only ones that made any sense on netflix tiger king give me some credit i did my best to tell producers
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of the show what a constant problem the animal park was to our rural sheriff's office i'm the county
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sheriff shown in joe exotic docuseries uh not made not much made sense with any part of that zoo i'm
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now retired keep up the good work stay safe i wanted to get him on uh and personally tell you
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larry i did not mean that you didn't make sense you were i felt like you were the one that was sitting
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there you were saying all the things that i was saying the whole time like this is nuts this is nuts
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it it it was nuts uh glenn uh that was uh that was eight years of my career that uh i won't get
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back yeah no i i bet not so what point where did you come into this uh this saga where in the
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where in the show's life were you there when when joe seemed to be kind of sane i mean not really
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sane but kind of sane at the beginning or was he always not actually actually i was glenn i took
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office uh in late 2010 and that's where i first met you know met joe uh he would uh we would have
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to annually uh execute a contract um you know to to deal with a protocol if if some of these large cats
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got out so joe and i early on um communicated regularly and and things were pretty good
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at that point but but as the zoo grew and as joe got more exotic so to say yeah uh it really got out
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of hand um and uh you know i might add you know toward the end of my career there as as garvin county
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sheriff you know he was accounting for uh uh most all of our calls for service uh in that immediate
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area of the county shut up really yeah oh yeah it's uh it was uh it was a week i had deputies uh at
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that park almost on a weekly basis uh if it wasn't an external call for service uh away from the park
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causing us to respond and to investigate at the park it was something internally
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and uh you know we had some some pretty major cases as well at the park
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like like what do what do we not know what did they not show us well well the producers uh didn't show
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you quite a bit uh you know if you can imagine those producers worked on that documentary uh i think
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four to five years uh there are so many stories and backstories that uh you know those watching the
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netflix series that they didn't see i mean just uh and i'm not talking routine stuff uh you know for
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instance you you saw on one episode where that uh that ef4 tornado it showed joe talking about that
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tornado and it was headed directly toward the park and i i can remember i was responding to the area
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that was hardest hit by that tornado and i was on the radio telling deputies get to the park it is on a
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a straight path toward the animal park and i was given directions you know don't let any one of those
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big cats out you know we'll we'll have a larger problem than then yeah you know what we were dealing
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with and but you know at the last minute that uh that tornado uh you know took a turn to the uh
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more to the east uh due east and uh but but just little stories like that uh but we you know we we had
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people uh there were there were people on each extreme of the uh the animal rights and the the the
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exotic cat ownership um debate and uh you know my office was go ahead yeah i'm just wondering if
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there was anyone sane i mean it seems like every single person there's that one guy who's from
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oklahoma that kind of looks like an orangutan uh a guy runs an exotic he ran the exotic bird thing or
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whatever he was the the uh he was the guy who was the the tried to he he did the entrapment or not
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the entrapment but he did the the spying there for the fbi at the end and and uh well what's his
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point of my uh email to you was at least show somebody sane and and even the producer said you
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know we've got to have some uh sanity in this uh docuseries so uh sheriff can we talk to you i said
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well absolutely right but i mean outside i mean in the big cat world they all seem nuts they all
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seem nuts and i never knew that until i became sheriff i uh and some of it was that that joe would
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you know he would hire and pay just you know just pennies for people to work there and many people
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volunteered because that that was their passion so as you can imagine the people that were
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attracted to work or or hang around the zoo um you know they they were people that uh you know
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thought had extreme thoughts and and maybe didn't have much else going for them and and and therefore
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they're they were at the zoo working or or you know feeling like that was their place in the big
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cat world you know i i can see it go ahead what what what also led to this glenn was i can remember
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times joe would come to my jail and try to bond people out because he needed workers at the zoo you
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know he'd be uh he'd be back there looking at the jail list and hey i could use this person or or this
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you know transitory uh person and wow he'd bring them out to the zoo and put them to work so that's
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what you got you know so it seemed like there was a plethora of drugs uh there did you did were you
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having to fight a drug ring there or did you guys know that that was as prevalent or is it or was it
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it was prevalent we we knew it's prevalent uh um you know on the park and and with some of the um
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workers that were around the park uh just as portrayed in in the in that docuseries tiger king
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there were drugs around that park again it uh just what i spoke to uh some of the people that
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uh were attracted to that park um you know that was the lifestyle they led uh that was the
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environment they lived in and uh i wouldn't characterize it as a drug ring i mean it wasn't
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uh glenn it wasn't they weren't selling it yeah but it wasn't any bigger of a problem the drugs
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weren't in any other part in in rural america right now with with meth use and addiction problems we're
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we're having so it was do you do you do you think that joe you know in his own way was a cult leader
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i wouldn't characterize him as a a cult leader uh he certainly had a lot of influence over people
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uh uh workers uh people who came to the park and would want to uh uh donate and maybe sponsor the
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animals that he kept at the zoo uh you know he had a lot of influence over people in that sense
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but uh as far as the cult i'd you know i we most everyone at that park didn't stay there very long
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there were a few exceptions and those are the ones that were shown on the show that that stayed there
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year after year but but you know we would uh we would get a call for service glenn i'm just telling
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stories here we'd go out there and we didn't conduct an investigation we would try to go back and
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conduct a follow-up investigation that person would be gone they they would be off to another state
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never to be seen in uh garvin county again it was uh so you know court like i didn't see uh that
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closed of yeah a community it was a public park okay yeah larry thank you so much for uh calling in and
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i'm glad i didn't have to live your life uh but uh what a what an amazing story it is thank you very much
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feeling strong feeling good yeah feeling good after that uh good night's sleep with the uh with the
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dopey pillow you're getting you're all right yeah yeah yeah with the dopey pillow yeah you know i don't
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know why my i don't know why some of my favorite people and i know you hated him but uh are are like
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don imus and bill o'reilly both just cantankerous just just everybody else they don't get you in
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imus's category i'm so much better looking than he is i mean come on well especially now i don't know
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if you've seen him he's gone downhill but anyway uh bill tell me what your thoughts are on uh first of
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all how new york is handling this what's it like to be in new york what's really going on there
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well on long island suburb uh east of new york there really isn't uh anything to report people
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are behaving they're staying inside not a lot of traffic uh the food uh places are open the service
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is good there's plenty of food actually more food than there would ordinarily be because people aren't
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staying in and they're barbecuing and making tuna sandwiches or whatever they they do um as far as
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the city is concerned i haven't been in there in about a month i do talk to friends in there every
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day there is a little menace on the street as the crazy people who you can't control they go out
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and there's not a lot of supervision of them uh i think that's a story the local media is not
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reporting because the local media is not out on the street uh the local media has kind of disappeared
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uh so you got to be careful in new york is people want there are people wandering around or not good
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they will hurt you and they're not and and you're not saying that this is necessarily just criminals but
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there are also there's a real mental illness people right um so the nypd is uh as in my lifetime always
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been uh heroic they have a lot of cases in there and but they still go to the precinct houses and
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they're in the cars and they're supervising what happens as best they can the ems people that is
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the untold story they're working around the clock um taking people to the hospitals and then without a
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break double shifts um yeah they're all geared up but still you know this is one of the most
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contagious diseases the planet has ever seen and that's the real crux of this matter how contagious
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it is not how lethal um three percent are going to die uh of people who acquire it but it's so
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contagious and so uh undefined is the mass going to help us can i can i my son was telling me well
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you can't touch cardboard i said well if that's true i would have been dead five weeks ago um so
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there's a lot of you know mythology around a lot of misinformation a lot of cowardly reporting
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misreporting political reporting um it's a mess whether you're in long island new york city or
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down in texas where you guys are all right so bill there is a a real debate going on right now i don't
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i don't think we can argue that this is dangerous the the numbers if they just continue at the pace
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that they're at today it will become the most deadly uh virus uh of the last hundred years i mean it is
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really it looks like it's going to be bad um if they just stay on pace and don't exponentially grow
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by the end of next month it will be bad and i think we've done a lot to contain it but the real
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debate here is is the cure worse than the virus you know tomorrow i i've heard this
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on television mostly and i'm sitting here and i'm going look if you're in a zone where there are a lot
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of people ill you're not going to be able to cherry pick what you do you're not now if you live in the
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dakotas or wyoming or nebraska or places that have not been impacted you should go about your daily
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life and that's the local authorities you should follow their lead it's not a one-size-fits-all
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but these commentators who say well you know let the old people stay inside the rest of us will go
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out you're insane i mean it's way too contagious so we're gonna have to all sit down for two months
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that's what it did in china now i don't believe china at all but there is independent reporting
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that the virus is on the decline in china where it originated so i think we're gonna do the same
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thing here and by may uh you'll see the stats down and then um the local people will decide who can do
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what but to to say well it's not worth it we're losing too many jobs i think that's fallacious i
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really think that's dangerous reporting and you're hearing it so bill i i think that we need to keep
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the country closed but there is a point to where you don't just fire these engines back up i don't
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know where that is i i don't know if you know steven moore the economist but yeah he's a good yeah he's
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a good friend he's always very optimistic he got off the phone he was supposed to be on with me you
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know at this time a couple of days ago and he got called into a meeting at the white house and said
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i'll call you right back i'll call you next hour if i can get out of the meeting and so he he had no
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time to process and he was right on the air and i've never heard him like this he's like this is
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just catastrophic what is is coming um how do we balance that well first of all speculation doesn't
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help anybody and i was critical of fauci uh the doctor because he's going well i might come back in
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the fall hey that doesn't do us any good doc okay no you know it doesn't all right so you don't need
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to say that and number two well we do wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait the speculation
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speculation isn't good but being able to get people prepared for possibilities i'm afraid
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if you're right i'm afraid people are going to think right but i think people on when it's coming
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back i think people saying oh well okay we're past it if they're not aware that it might come back
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in fall it will be it it you know people have to understand that that the second wave of spanish flu
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it did come back and it was worse than the first it doesn't mean it's going to happen this time but
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you do have to be aware of it it could come back i i i disagree vehemently unless you have data
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back it up i'm sure you're aware at the university of pittsburgh they're now going into human trials
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on a medicine that will abruptly stop the pandemic yes so we're going to live in a totally different
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country in september than we're living in in april the whole country is going to be different in
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september and none of us know how that's going to shake so i don't need fauci telling me this might
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happen it could have it would have you just put out there this is what we're doing this is what
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the data says and then in july or august if you see a trend up then you say yeah okay everybody but
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to scare people and people are absolutely frightened i mean they are crazy some of them
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not me because if i die we're probably all better off but i'm most people most people
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are i mean it's debatable i mean you make a good point you do make a good point with a lot of facts
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and data points to back that up but that's right i don't want to speculate i'll let's just let's just
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i don't want to speculate look there are two prongs to this reportage and and i i can't tell you
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how the u.s press the journalism industry in america is letting down every single america you
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would think they would rise to the occasion and then put aside all the hatred bias and lies and
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just report the truth or try to get the truth you would think that that might happen and i will give
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you i know we are up against a break but i'll give you a really vivid example of a mass lie
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being reported by the american press a mass lie and there's no one to rebut it beck there's no one
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to combat it and this is so dangerous so that's one prong of the disease reportage the other is
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people don't know what's true they don't know whether to wear a mask they don't know whether
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to uh dress up they don't know whether to later i got my daughter they don't know whether to
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bill they don't know whether or not to wear a mask yes they should wear a mask
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all right fine but they don't know some people i know you know why they don't know people say no
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you don't have to it's do you know why they don't know they don't know because the combination
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of those in the government and mainly in the media that just don't trust the american people
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with information said we're going to have a shortage of masks tell people that they don't
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they don't need those masks they need them at the hospital they won't work for them of course they'll
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work for them if they're working for the doctors trust the american people and give them the
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information they'll do the right thing if they'll do the right thing to wear a mask wear a mask if you
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can get one okay but there isn't any definitive if you wear the mask you're not going to get it
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all right so don't think if you're wearing a mask you're not going to get it because you might yes
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all right right mask is basically for people who think they're sick so it's harder to spread if you
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cough because you got a barrier in front of your mouth but this is ill-defined beck the press does not
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define any of this they use it to try to hurt people they want destroyed they use all of the
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pandemic to try to destroy people and it's so bad