The Glenn Beck Program - May 11, 2021


Best of The Program | Guest: Bill O’Reilly | 5⧸11⧸21


Episode Stats

Length

36 minutes

Words per Minute

146.323

Word Count

5,412

Sentence Count

423

Hate Speech Sentences

11


Summary

Bill O'Reilly joins the show to talk about the latest cyber attack on the U.S. Energy grid, the impact on the economy, and the possible link between the cyber attack and the attack on our infrastructure.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Welcome to the podcast. Today we get started with Glenn yelling about something that I think will
00:00:04.560 really reach you in your heart and your soul. You're going to feel this one along with Glenn
00:00:11.500 as well. We also have Bill O'Reilly on the program. His new book is out today. It's called
00:00:15.820 Killing the Mob. It's one, of course, you do not want to miss. He goes through all of that
00:00:19.900 and much, much more today. Check out the podcast if you could subscribe to this podcast. We'd
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00:00:51.460 Here's the podcast.
00:00:55.560 So we have the oil pipeline, the gas pipeline that has been shut down. It is the gas pipeline
00:01:17.520 that serves major U.S. airports, including Atlantis-Hartsfield-Jackson, which is the busiest
00:01:24.960 passenger by traffic anywhere. This provides Jet-A fuel, it provides gas, and it also provides
00:01:39.520 diesel. This was hacked last Friday. It was hacked by a group, Darkside. Darkside is in Russia.
00:01:52.160 We know that. We don't have ties directly to the Kremlin. However, you don't do things like
00:02:00.320 this without Putin's understanding or permission. You would never, never attack. Do you think
00:02:08.160 they're going to, you think they're going to attack China? You think they're going to go
00:02:12.760 after an ally? Of course not. That's why Darkside never attacks former Soviet states.
00:02:22.960 So we know that it was at least a Russian gang. We don't have ties to Putin himself,
00:02:34.560 but we know the attack came from Russia. We know who these people are.
00:02:39.520 Here is what the White House said yesterday about the pipeline ransom. Listen to this.
00:02:47.680 We know that victims of cyber attacks often face a very difficult situation, and they have to just
00:02:54.400 balance often the cost-benefit when they have no choice with regard to paying a ransom. Colonial is
00:02:59.600 a private company, and we'll defer information regarding their decision on paying a ransom to them.
00:03:05.200 Would the administration offer any advice on whether or not to pay a ransom?
00:03:10.800 So typically that is a private sector decision, and the administration has not offered further advice
00:03:15.680 at this time. Given the rise in ransomware, that is one area we're definitely looking at now to say
00:03:21.120 what should be the government's approach to ransomware actors and to ransoms overall.
00:03:28.960 Stu, can I ask you a question? Yes.
00:03:31.200 In the original episodes of 24, what was the one thing Kiefer Sutherland always said?
00:03:45.600 Do not negotiate with terrorists.
00:03:51.440 The United States doesn't negotiate with terrorists.
00:03:54.880 We all know that. We all know that. This is critical infrastructure. Now, let me give you
00:04:05.040 a reason why I think that all of this is being let play out. I think the Biden administration is
00:04:14.160 moving at a geriatric pace for a reason. It makes it so much easier to nationalize everything.
00:04:22.000 It makes it so much easier when everybody is screaming about gas. They didn't create the
00:04:30.320 problem, but they will exploit the problem. What did what was his response yesterday?
00:04:35.680 His response yesterday is, well, this is, you know, covered in the stimulus package. This is why I need
00:04:40.880 to have that, uh, you know, 2.2 trillion dollar infrastructure. Really? Is that it?
00:04:47.680 I'm telling you, I got up this morning and I was looking at the news, what's happening in Israel,
00:04:55.120 what's happening all around the world, what is happening in our own country with our own economy.
00:05:00.480 And I thought you couldn't plan this any better. You really couldn't. And I don't mean that,
00:05:06.160 you know, gee, it's, it just couldn't be planned any better. I mean, they did a really good job.
00:05:12.000 They did a really good job. You cannot convince me that this is all just inept people. They're not that
00:05:21.360 many inept people. And yes, I've been to target.
00:05:25.280 I, I, I, this is going to affect the airports. It's going to affect the gas stations.
00:05:44.880 It's going to affect prices. Well, gee, no big deal. The gas stations all along the East Coast are now
00:05:54.240 beginning to run out of fuel. This is America's biggest petroleum pipeline and they can't get it
00:06:02.960 back online because of Russian hackers. If the United States of America cannot, we have such, uh,
00:06:13.200 weak defenses that they cannot protect our private businesses from terrorists. And that's exactly what
00:06:22.160 they are terrorists from Russia. Then what the hell good is the federal government? What is the reason
00:06:30.800 we have government? We have government to protect our rights. We have a government to protect our property,
00:06:40.400 to protect our, our way of life. It's like the police. We have the police because we can't police
00:06:49.360 everything ourselves. We have the government because there were certain things we can't do by
00:06:55.840 ourselves. One of them is stopping cyber terrorism from Russia. Oh, this is a private sector. Is it?
00:07:05.920 That's weird because you would think that the pharmaceutical companies would be a private
00:07:10.240 sector thing too, but you had no problem marching in there and saying, I want to take the patents.
00:07:15.600 North Carolina has declared a state of emergency.
00:07:29.280 Today's emergency declaration will help North Carolina prepare for any potential
00:07:33.600 motor vehicle fuel supply interruptions across the state and ensure motorists
00:07:37.520 are able to have access to fuel. This is according to the governor.
00:07:44.320 This is the fourth day yesterday, day five today of the largest oil pipeline or gasoline pipeline,
00:07:52.800 fuel pipeline in the East Coast. I don't know if the president knows that, but that's where
00:07:59.280 most people in America live. Meanwhile, they keep denying inflation. Last week, I told you that
00:08:10.320 Costco and Kroger, among other brands began the process of serving size optimization.
00:08:17.200 That's basically what they're saying is we're going to charge you the same price, but get you,
00:08:20.560 give you less. Paper towel rolls instead of being 235 sheets is 212 sheets. Your package of mac and
00:08:29.200 cheese still provides four servings, but now instead of 12 ounces per serving, it's 10.1 ounces.
00:08:36.080 Kirkland, the brand of whole salted cashews used to be 22 ounces, still in the same plastic container,
00:08:45.760 now 20 ounces of nuts. The rest is air. This is the first thing that happens in inflation. Serving sizes go
00:08:54.560 down. It's been going on for generations. The only other thing you can do is, you know, reduce the
00:09:04.000 product or raise your prices. Well, nobody wants to raise their prices, but actually because instead of
00:09:12.640 paying 10% more for those cashews, you're just getting 10% less, but you're paying the same price.
00:09:19.280 So it's, it's the same thing. It's just a trick. Is anybody else sick of tricks? Is anybody else just
00:09:26.240 searching for somebody to be honest? God, I'm so sick and tired of having to try to figure out what
00:09:33.920 everything means because everybody's trying to bamboozle you or trick you. Did you see what was in,
00:09:40.800 I'm going to talk about this next hour. Did you see the, the left Democrats seem to believe
00:09:47.440 Americans are so gullible, gullible and stupefied that friendly reporters can openly quote the left
00:09:53.520 gloating about how they lie, steal and cheat to get power. Time magazine article crowing about domestic
00:10:01.440 domestic Democrats, uh, Democrats successful conspiracy to rig the 2020 election through
00:10:07.520 aggressive lawsuits, complaints to corporate media, the ability to deploy rioters. Remember that
00:10:14.400 time magazine quoted them, talked about a conspiracy, a whole group of people that had conspired together,
00:10:24.240 the corporations and everybody else. Now, New York magazine yesterday, it's out with an article
00:10:33.360 quoting delicate Democrats celebrating their successes at lying to Americans about the true
00:10:39.760 goals of the president, their conspiracy elected. The author claims a person close to the white house told
00:10:48.240 her at his hundred day mark, Biden is the most liberal president we've ever had. And the public
00:10:53.920 thinks he's a moderate. That's a winning strategy to me. They're willing to accept that you're going to
00:10:59.680 write this piece so long as they know that swing voters in Colorado aren't going to read it. That's a quote.
00:11:06.400 I am so sick and tired. You want to change the country, then tell us what you want to change it to.
00:11:19.840 Stop telling me that you're not a Marxist only later to reveal that you are a Marxist and Marxism is great.
00:11:26.880 You smeared me. You smeared me. You did everything you could to destroy me and my family for years.
00:11:35.600 For what? So you Marxists could win?
00:11:43.280 Now, the powers that be are lying to you about inflation. Why is inflation so bad?
00:11:51.280 Because inflation screws you. It screws the guy down at the bottom. It screws the business owner that is
00:12:00.240 just trying to make it. It doesn't screw the banks. It doesn't screw big business. They're getting bailouts
00:12:07.520 all the time. In the end, it really screws the little guy. Anybody who has played the game
00:12:18.480 the way it's supposed to be? You pay your taxes. You save your money. You went to school. You worked
00:12:27.680 hard at your job. All of these things that are now in jeopardy because you might not believe in critical
00:12:35.440 theory. I'm sorry. I don't think all white people are racist. I also don't think black people can't be
00:12:44.720 racist. Sue me. Shut me down. Go ahead.
00:12:57.200 You play by the rules. You put your money in the bank. Your money, because they are printing money,
00:13:03.440 money is worth less. Yes, it says a dollar. I've got a hundred dollars in the bank. But if inflation
00:13:12.720 is 10%, you actually only have 90 cents in the bank.
00:13:16.880 The way they are running, the way they are running, and this is not my estimate, the way they are
00:13:29.360 running, experts believe that your $100 will be worth $52 in just a couple of years.
00:13:38.640 who wins?
00:13:44.880 I'll tell you what it looks like. You want to know what it looks like? Look at Columbia right now.
00:13:50.320 The best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:14:07.280 The pipeline is still down. The White House has said that we should, uh, that's a private sector
00:14:13.600 thing. So whether they pay the ransom or not is really up to them. Okay. All right. Okay. Thank you for that help.
00:14:21.280 Is that an issue to you? I mean, you don't think the government should have a little more guidance on?
00:14:26.320 It is weird that like this is one of the things that happens often, not only by private companies,
00:14:32.080 but also by, you know, city governments and state governments that
00:14:35.440 get hacked and they just literally just pay criminals to get their information back.
00:14:39.920 What do we, what do we practice? What are we paying the federal government? Why are we paying taxes if
00:14:44.640 they won't protect us from outside forces? And that their job seems like it to me outside forces.
00:14:51.040 Yeah, it does to me. And we don't seem to take any of these things seriously after they happen. You
00:14:54.880 know, you have hacks from sometimes state actors that we don't do anything about. We have, I mean,
00:15:00.400 we have a very serious possibility that a global pandemic was caused by a communist government, uh,
00:15:07.360 and cover it by the way of still, still not unsealed the research files from, uh,
00:15:12.640 right. The Wuhan Institute of Virology so that people around the world can check them out and
00:15:17.440 see if maybe this was the cause still haven't done it or a year later still haven't done it. No one
00:15:21.840 seems to care. No one seems to do much of anything about it. And, uh, it's going to continue to happen
00:15:26.800 unless we hold these people responsible. We're busy working on equity right now. That should,
00:15:31.360 we should be laser focused on equity because that's what everybody's looking for.
00:15:35.360 Yes. Not equality. That's for sure. I don't want equality. I don't want equality. I want equity,
00:15:41.360 which is something totally different and brand spanking new, uh, in case you haven't been following
00:15:46.560 this. Have you seen the Disney thing? Did you look into that at all, Glenn, uh, over the past couple
00:15:50.080 of days? I didn't look into it cause it'll make my eyes bleed. I know about it, the Disney training,
00:15:54.720 but I did kind of make my eyes bleed. I thought about you a little bit and the eye bleeding here. And I
00:15:59.760 thought about how much to torture you over this, because I know you, you love, and you hate Disney.
00:16:04.880 You have a, you have a love hate relationship there. I love Walt Disney. I love what he stood for. I
00:16:10.080 love what he built. I love how he built it. Uh, uh, I love the ideals, the original principles of
00:16:16.960 Disney. I despise them now, despise them. Well, this is going to help you probably down this road,
00:16:23.120 because they've started a brand new, uh, brand new, uh, program for their employees.
00:16:29.360 And it's called reimagine tomorrow because you're probably imagining tomorrow right now as white
00:16:35.920 person, as like, you are a racist and you don't like black people and you're hoping to go back to
00:16:39.920 those good old days of slavery. But what can Disney do to help me reimagine a place where white people
00:16:45.920 are not in charge and, and where white people don't, you know, uh, milk their advantage to keep
00:16:52.240 people in, in chains. You know, I'm glad you asked that. And I'd like to get your reaction to some of
00:16:56.880 these things, Glenn, to see how you feel about that. Sure, sure, sure. One module of the program,
00:17:01.280 of the program is called allyship for race consciousness. The company tells employees that
00:17:07.280 they must take ownership of educating themselves about structural anti-black racism, and they should
00:17:12.640 not rely on their black colleagues to educate them because it is emotionally taxing.
00:17:17.600 Oh, I can imagine how emotionally taxing it is. White people are not emotionally,
00:17:24.400 emotionally taxed at all right now. We are just living the sweet dream.
00:17:29.360 And the document goes on to basically say, instead of, like, so you're not, we're supposed to have a
00:17:34.820 conversation about race, right? That's what we're always told. But not with people of color. But
00:17:38.580 don't talk to people of color about their opinions on it because that is going to tax them emotionally.
00:17:43.140 Yes. Instead, you should go, as the document advises, you should go talk to, or go read
00:17:50.500 things from black journalists and writers who can inform you about this, which again, to my eye,
00:17:58.580 and I know as a man with white privilege, I don't have any role in this conversation, but
00:18:02.820 sure. But to my eye, picking your journalists based on their skin color is racism. Is it not?
00:18:09.660 Excuse me. May I quote? Ha ha. Racist. Oh, yeah. It's a great cartoon. Thank you. Yeah.
00:18:18.060 By the way, we should point out, this is from Christopher Rufo, who's done an incredible job.
00:18:21.940 I mean, one man wrecking crew. It is one man. It is.
00:18:25.600 In destroying and exposing so many times in internal documents like this from schools and companies
00:18:33.720 across the country. I think he's going to be joining us later this week to talk about this.
00:18:37.300 Disney recommends that employees atone for their racism by challenging colorblind ideologies
00:18:45.760 and rhetoric. I can't take it. Such as- I can't take it.
00:18:50.120 All lives matter. I don't see color. And, of course, white people must listen with empathy
00:18:57.140 to black colleagues and not question or debate black colleagues' lived experience. Now, Glenn,
00:19:02.880 correct me if I'm wrong here. I'm just- Yes. I'm just thinking here for a second. First of all,
00:19:07.340 I thought the utopian vision, utopian, we may never get there, but utopian vision
00:19:13.340 of Martin Luther King was a colorblind society. So now that we must challenge colorblind ideologies
00:19:20.160 and rhetoric such as, I don't see color. I mean, they are disclosing of Martin Luther King.
00:19:25.680 Yes, of course they are, because they believe the opposite of Martin Luther King.
00:19:31.000 Because Martin Luther King was saying, America, live up to your principles and your values and
00:19:36.400 your ideals. What they're saying now is all of those ideals, all of those principles are
00:19:41.100 garbage. And the only way to fight racism is with racism. So two can play that game. That's
00:19:47.740 what they're saying. Two can play that game. And we're going to get the one up on you and we're
00:19:53.660 going to crush you into the dirt. This, this is, you know, I'll show you this in action tomorrow,
00:19:59.020 tomorrow night on our special, uh, nine o'clock. It happens. You can, you can watch it a billion
00:20:04.880 places, watch it at blaze TV, watch it on YouTube. Um, by the way, you're going to have to go seek
00:20:10.700 it out on YouTube, but they're some reason or another, it's, it's hard to find any of the videos
00:20:16.200 of mine on YouTube being spread around anymore, but, uh, you can just go to YouTube and watch it
00:20:20.680 there for free. You can get it as a blaze TV, but we're going to show you this happening
00:20:25.860 in real time. They're just a little ahead of us, one country, and we'll show you the truth
00:20:32.020 on that. By the way, Stu, I brought in the Disneyland prospectus. Yeah. Okay. So this is
00:20:37.260 the actual prospectus that was typed out originally by Walt's secretary at his dictation over a weekend.
00:20:46.980 This is what he brought to the banks and said, uh, I want to build a theme park. Nobody knew what a
00:20:53.980 theme park was. Uh, they turned him down. He was asking for $18 million to build Disneyland. Can
00:20:59.580 you imagine that? This is the Disneyland story. I want you to see, are they living up to any of these
00:21:05.920 ideals? The idea of Disney of Disneyland is a simple one. It will be a place for people to find
00:21:14.060 happiness and knowledge. Okay. You could say critical race theory in a very twisted, absolutely,
00:21:21.560 uh, polar opposite of Walt Disney sort of way. You could say, Oh yeah, we're just giving knowledge.
00:21:28.680 Yes. It'll be a place for parents and children to share pleasant times in one another's company,
00:21:35.240 a place for teachers and pupils to discover greater ways of understanding and education.
00:21:41.640 Here, the older generation can recapture the nostalgia of the days gone by and the younger
00:21:48.440 generation can savor the challenge of the future. Here will be the wonders of nature and man for all to
00:21:55.980 see and understand. Disneyland will be based upon and dedicated to the ideals, the dreams, the hard
00:22:07.500 facts that have created America. And it will be uniquely equipped to dramatize these dreams and
00:22:14.220 facts and send them forth as a source of courage and inspiration to all the world. So if America was
00:22:21.980 built on slavery, you better damn well tear Disney apart because it was dedicated to the ideals,
00:22:30.220 the facts, and the dreams that created America. So if you're saying that slavery, tear the damn park
00:22:39.100 down and I will help you do it.
00:22:44.060 Uh, Disneyland will be something of a fair, an exhibition, a playground, a community center,
00:22:49.180 a museum of living facts, a showplace of beauty and magic. It will be filled with the accomplishments,
00:22:54.360 the joys and hopes of the world we live in. And it will remind us and show us how to make these
00:23:01.100 wonders part of our own lives. That was Walt's dream. That's what he built. That's not what any
00:23:10.620 Disney park represents today. If they are teaching their people, they have already allowed people to
00:23:17.420 grow their hair any way they want mustache. You could have tattoos. I know this seems like a really small
00:23:22.360 thing, but why was Disneyland so successful? Why did Walt Disney build a berm, a wall around Disney?
00:23:33.420 It wasn't just to keep people from sneaking into the park for free. Why did he build a giant berm
00:23:40.600 around that whole thing? He built it so you could enter a fantasy world. You could enter a world where the
00:23:50.820 current world of stress, the current world of problems would disappear. So would Walt want people with
00:23:59.780 tats on their face? No. Why? Because people view tats different ways. He wanted everything as clean and
00:24:09.740 as generic as possible with all of the employees. He wanted people to represent the best of mankind
00:24:19.560 without any reminders of the outside world.
00:24:27.080 You want to take your vacation at a place that you're already so concerned is going to bankrupt
00:24:32.620 your family? I mean, if you were the federal government, you'd be borrowing from your great
00:24:38.020 grandchildren to be able to go to Disney. You're already stressed out about that. You want to go into
00:24:43.160 a place that now is preaching to you what you should be instead of the hard facts, the ideals, and the
00:24:52.080 principles of this country that created the greatest country, the greatest flash of freedom in all
00:25:01.680 mankind? I don't think so. I don't think so. Sorry, Walt. I think now it's time for all of us to go back and
00:25:09.640 sit on that bench that had gum on it at the carnival where you took your kids every Sunday and thought
00:25:17.020 there's got to be a better way. Not anymore. They've destroyed it.
00:25:21.600 Alcatraz Penitentiary, 945 AM. Al Capone has let his guard down.
00:25:48.920 It's shortly after breakfast as the man nicknamed Scarface works his shift, mopping the prison shower
00:25:56.280 room. This guy once wore expensive suits and diamonds, but now displays the standard Alcatraz
00:26:02.960 uniform of a blue chambray shirt, trousers, belt, and shoes. Capone is 37. He's the former head of a
00:26:12.360 notorious Chicago crime syndicate that earned profits of more than a hundred million dollars annually.
00:26:19.060 That's about 18 billion dollars in modern currency. He lived without fear of arrest. He paid off the
00:26:27.380 judges, police, and politicians to ensure his freedom. And while he was once the most feared mob boss in
00:26:34.200 America, reputed to have killed more than 30 human beings, he's now just another inmate in this escape-proof
00:26:41.040 prison on a windy island in the middle of San Francisco Bay. Capone knows he has enemies here
00:26:47.920 at Alcatraz. He has a reputation among the inmates for seeking special treatment from the warden.
00:26:53.640 The warden is James Johnston, who has famously declared that his prisoners are entitled to food,
00:26:59.800 clothing, shelter, and medical attention. Anything else you get is a privilege. It's known as rule number
00:27:05.120 five in the inmate regulation handbook. It's the reason Warden Johnston constantly denies Capone's
00:27:12.100 favors. But that doesn't stop Capone from trying. In one instance, he attempts to avoid the weight at
00:27:18.660 a prison barbershop. Get to the back of the line, you bum, says a fellow inmate, James Lucas, a 22-year-old
00:27:26.600 Texan known as a chronic hothead. Do you know who I am, punk? snarls Capone. Lucas grabs a pair of
00:27:36.640 barber shears and presses the blade into Capone's jugular. Yeah, I know who you are, greaseball.
00:27:42.760 And if you don't get to the back of the line, I'm going to know who you were.
00:27:50.720 That's just the beginning of chapter five of Bill O'Reilly's new book called Killing the Mob. And
00:27:57.280 Bill joins us now. Hi, Bill. How are you? Excellent read, Beck. Very good. I was riveted. I wrote it.
00:28:03.820 I was riveted when you were reading it. Thank you very much. Tell the rest of the story because
00:28:09.540 it's fascinating. He leaves the barbershop. And what happens to him? Well, he's beat up. And
00:28:15.740 the guy who put the shears to his neck is after him. And he meets him in the shower with a razor
00:28:28.400 and slices him pretty badly. And then Capone, that's it for his life. He deteriorates physically
00:28:38.000 and mentally, gets out of Alcatraz, goes to Miami and dies in his early 40s, which is justice because
00:28:45.760 what a horrible, horrible human being he is. But the reason that we've highlighted Capone in Killing
00:28:52.680 the Mob is he's the template for organized crime today. So what he did was he elevated,
00:28:59.840 we opened with Bonnie and Clyde, John Dillinger, all those people, but he elevated criminality
00:29:05.400 to an organized level in Chicago. And as you pointed out, took over everything. I mean,
00:29:10.700 he bought the governor and the mayor and, you know, he'd do whatever he wanted to do.
00:29:14.440 And then once that was successful in the money, as you pointed out, billions of dollars in bootleg
00:29:21.420 alcohol in today's prices, once that was proven to be successful, then that's how the organized
00:29:28.540 crime then grew in that template to organize, to come into cities, New York, Chicago, L.A.,
00:29:35.600 Philadelphia, Boston, buy up everybody, bribe everybody, and take over the rackets.
00:29:40.660 Uh, prohibition was repealed. Then they went in heavy to gambling, extortion, prostitution,
00:29:47.800 vice, and the unions. So that's, that's how it all evolved. And Al Capone, a famous name,
00:29:54.780 but boy, what a awful, terrible human being.
00:29:59.020 What, um, uh, why did Elliot Ness go in? If anybody saw the movie, The Untouchables, uh,
00:30:06.200 it's just a great movie with Sean Connery and Kevin Costner. Um, but it's, it's clear that in
00:30:12.480 Chicago, everybody has been paid off. Why was it that Hoover didn't go after and use the FBI to go
00:30:20.740 after these guys? Um, Hoover took over the FBI in the thirties, uh, and assassinated, literally the
00:30:28.500 FBI assassinated all the bank robbers. And it wasn't like, come out with your hands up. It was
00:30:34.540 the FBI catches you, they can pull a bullet right between your eyes. And that's what happened to all
00:30:38.980 of them, Bonnie and Clyde, John Dillinger, pretty boy Floyd, babyface Nelson. Um, Hoover was in charge
00:30:44.540 of that. But then when it came to the Italian mobsters, Diego Hoover would not investigate,
00:30:52.400 would not put the FBI on their trail. Lucky Luciano, the first godfather in New York, his private
00:30:59.340 papers say, and we have them, uh, they mob had something on Hoover, but doesn't say what now
00:31:06.220 everybody knew Diego Hoover loved the ponies. He was a gambler and he was gay. And so I do believe
00:31:14.240 that the mob had something on Hoover and that's why he didn't investigate. So without Capone so out of
00:31:19.560 control, um, Franklin Delano Roosevelt knew that and was embarrassed that the federal government
00:31:27.860 couldn't control this guy. So he sent in a treasury department, that's Elliot Ness. That's the
00:31:33.440 untouchables. And they got Capone on income tax evasion. Which was not the, was that the plan
00:31:39.160 originally? The movie shows that that's the order to Elliot Ness was get them on anything you can get
00:31:43.900 them on. Okay. Get them on anything. All right. I mean, so the guy files an income tax, but Capone
00:31:49.900 files his income tax because he made $3,000 a year and he's right around in the best, you know, come on.
00:31:56.140 Right. So, and that's what the, that's what the drug people do today. But here, here's the ironic
00:32:00.540 part about all this. So, uh, Capone goes down and then there's a TV show, the untouchables.
00:32:06.680 That was, do you remember that back? Or were you too young for that? Oh, I do. I do. I do
00:32:10.960 remember. I remember it in reruns. Robert Stack plays Elliot Ness and that's a Kevin Costner part
00:32:16.900 of the movie. All right. So it's the same thing. The untouchables go after Elliot, uh, go after
00:32:23.000 Al Capone, get them. And then the series is all Italian bad gangsters. Well, the real gangster,
00:32:29.180 the godfather of Chicago, Sam Giancana did not like that TV show in the fifties. The producer of the
00:32:36.540 show is Desi Arnaz. Lucy, I love Lucy. He produced it. All right. So Giancana hand delivers a letter
00:32:46.180 to Desi Arnaz says, Hey, knock off the Italians, make the bad guys other ethnicities. Whereupon
00:32:54.040 Desi Arnaz writes a wise guy note back to same Giancana saying, what do you want me to make them Jews?
00:32:59.560 That day, Giancana takes a contract out on Desi Arnaz and hires the assassin. We have
00:33:08.340 it all in killing the mob. And I'm not going to tell you anymore because I want people to
00:33:11.520 read the book, but Desi Arnaz came with this close to having a bullet in the back of his
00:33:15.700 head. I mean, how powerful the mob was.
00:33:19.140 Yeah. And Desi Arnaz was a very powerful person in television. Most people just think of him as,
00:33:24.960 you know, Lucy's husband on I Love Lucy. He was the secret behind Lucille Ball's success.
00:33:32.700 He, I mean, it was he and Lucy through Desi Lou that did Star Trek and the Untouchables and a million
00:33:40.060 other shows that people know. And it went well. Yeah. Go ahead.
00:33:45.700 Arnaz thought that he was, that he was invulnerable because he was so powerful, as you point out.
00:33:51.380 But what Arnaz did not know was that the mob controlled much of Hollywood through a guy named
00:33:58.140 Sidney Korshak, who was not a mobster. He was a lawyer. And the movies that you, that we all saw
00:34:05.300 in the 50s and 60s, a lot of the TV shows, they were all paying organized crime money to produce
00:34:14.860 the shows because the organized crime controlled all the unions, the cameramen, the lighting,
00:34:20.560 the sound, and they could shut down a production in 10 minutes. And nobody knew it. Americans didn't
00:34:26.520 know that the mob was controlling the film industry and the mob could walk in and say,
00:34:32.220 we want you to put this guy in that part and we're going to take 15% of your gross. They did it all
00:34:39.520 the time.
00:34:42.880 So is who are the ones that really clean this up? You had Elliot Ness. What happened to him after
00:34:49.560 Capone?
00:34:50.660 He committed suicide.
00:34:53.600 Uh-huh.
00:34:54.340 In Pennsylvania.
00:34:54.780 Do we believe it was suicide?
00:34:57.120 Yeah. Yeah. He, um, that was the apex of his career. And then he retired, um, and just didn't
00:35:06.480 have a very good life and took his own life.
00:35:08.580 Wow. Um, sad. And then who was the, go ahead, go ahead. No, I, I guess I can think of three
00:35:17.560 names. I can think of Elliot Ness. I can think of RFK and I can think of Rudy Giuliani as the
00:35:24.120 three guys that just were relentless. Were there more? No, because it, it had to be very, very,
00:35:33.780 uh, centralized. Organized crime was so powerful in this country between 1946 and 62, they controlled
00:35:42.420 everything. And is that because of the unions?
00:35:45.280 Yeah. And that's what the base, the power base was, the unions to this day. Organized crime in
00:35:52.780 New York where I am controls many of the unions. And I have a thing in the United States of Trump
00:35:59.940 where Trump and I are discussing, if you want to build a building in New York, you got to deal with
00:36:05.060 the mob now, today, this very moment. Oh yeah. And we name all the names and all that. Bobby
00:36:11.000 Kennedy is the hero of the book because Bobby Kennedy came in as attorney general, defied his
00:36:16.060 own father who had mob ties, Joseph Kennedy. His brother was kind of punch his pilot, agnostic about
00:36:22.940 it. And Bobby Kennedy went after the mob with a ferocity never before seen at the federal level
00:36:28.100 and did them huge damage. And then what he did led to Rudy Giuliani on the RICO statutes and new
00:36:36.260 federal laws. And Giuliani hurt the mob bad in New York as a U S attorney in the Southern district.
00:36:42.320 We're talking to Bill O'Reilly about his new book. It is out today. You can get a copy wherever. Uh,
00:36:47.120 it is wildly successful already. A hundred thousand copies in, uh, in five days leading up to the
00:36:53.900 release of the book, uh, Bill O'Reilly killing the mob.
00:36:57.380 Na, na, na, na, na.